ity of God."
Unfortunately, I am not aware of any published transcriptions of the later
material. However, now that I know about it, there is a decent chance that
I will prepare one myself at some point.
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d graph in each inner close),
implication (antecedent in outer close and disjunctive consequents in inner
closes), and negation (graph in outer close and one blackened inner close)
complies with Peirce's principle that "if one sign can be expressed as a
complication or special determina
er from this that "every unicorn is
pink." On the other hand, since by definition "every unicorn has a single
horn," it does follow that "there is not a unicorn that does not have a
single horn."
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Structural Engineer,
the change from one note
to another; and we *cognize* (3ns) relational states of things, like a
musical performance" (p. 20). Again, analysis comes as a subsequent
step--once all the relevant perceptions, experiences, and cognitions are in
the past.
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olath
h
anything that we have been discussing in recent List threads about logic
and EGs?
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On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 5:33 AM Auke v
on ovals are the "best" choice
for a third primitive along with the blank sheet and line of identity;
while for many *philosophical *purposes, such as studying logic more deeply
including non-classical alternatives, implication scrolls are the "best"
choice instead. Why be u
ses are primarily philosophical, so *everything
*that Peirce wrote about logic and EGs is potentially relevant.
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On F
y
interested in improving the efficiency of proof procedures, and the
expression "dumping the scroll" is frankly both crude and misleading.
This exchange seems like a good summary of our different positions that
result from our different purposes, so hopefully we can leave it at
my purpose is the same as Peirce's--analyzing reasoning
into its most fundamental and irreducible elements. Even more specifically,
I am currently exploring intuitionistic/constructive/synechistic logic
using EGs, consistent with Peirce's own skepticism of excluded middle. John
can speak
falsity. (R 300:50[51], 1908)
Again, as your own slide 11 rightly affirms, "Even negation ~ must be
inferred."
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quot; (NEM 3:821, 1905). It requires
"a real movement of thought in the mind" that is completely absent from "a
state of things that should consist in there not being an A without a B.
For in such a state of things there would be no change at all" (R
300:49[48], 1908).
Regard
nderstanding of mathematical reasoning is a
first and absolutely essential step towards the development of a thorough
understanding of reality" (p. 145). He later adds, "The Peirce of the
existential graphs ... is as well the Peirce of synechism, the metaphysical
doctr
Gs.jpg) for the three
corresponding graphs with shading rather than thin lines and a small
blackened inner close for negation.
Regards,
Jon S.
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 4:34 PM Jon Alan Schmidt
wrote:
> Helmut, List:
>
> Indeed, that passage by Peirce in R 490 is challenging to untangle.
rtheless, I continue to maintain
that the latter is *more analytical* because it preserves the fundamental
asymmetry of reasoning and can thus be easily adapted for
intuitionistic/triadic logic without excluded middle, which "is universally
true" (R 339:515[344r]).
Regards,
Jon Alan S
consequence without excluded middle, such that "if X
then Y"--or perhaps better, "supposing X then Y"--is *not *strictly
equivalent to "not-(X and not-Y)" and "not-X or Y" as in classical logic.
The only adjustment to the original graph itself is having the inner
Accordingly, in Arnold Oostra's
intuitionistic existential graphs the continuous scroll for a conditional
proposition, with its inner loop connected to its outer loop at one point,
is distinguished from detached/nested cuts or shaded/unshaded areas for a
conjunctive or disjunctive proposi
dicates solvency, then the
hypothesis is falsified; but if the man did go broke, then it is rendered
much more plausible--perhaps even probable--though still not certain since
there might be other circumstances such that his bankruptcy is a secondary
factor or even coincidental.
Regards,
Jon Alan
ving *negation from it. If
we could simply agree on that much, I would be glad to stop belaboring the
point.
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On Fri, Dec 25
dable within any
sufficiently powerful formal system.
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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 3:50 AM Helmut Raulien wrote:
> J
he
name, Synechism, to which one thus returns; but this time with stronger
reasons than ever before. (CP 4.584, 1906)
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On T
positing multiple truth values rather than
merely omitting excluded middle.
HR: So I, up to now, assume, that intuitionistic logic is a fallacy.
What would it mean for intuitionistic logic to be a *fallacy*? In
accordance with what presumed standard of valid reasoning? No one disputes
that it does not
urse" if the conjecture were true (CP 5.189, EP 2:341,
1903).
In short, as I have said many times before with respect to various issues,
we have different purposes and thus reach different conclusions. In this
case, I am primarily interested in the philosophical exposition of logic
and existential g
might be worthwhile to write an article on that aspect.
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 11:36 PM John F. Sowa wrote:
> Gary F
*positive negation*
which is just as Real as they. ... The recognition does not involve any
denial of existing logic, but it involves a great addition to it" (NEM
3:851, 1909).
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Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.L
Peirce's 1911 explanations of existential graphs
after R 669 are quite simple and straightforward for practical applications
in strict accordance with classical deductive logic. However, he never
repudiates his earlier writings about them that include important
theoretical considerations--on the cont
ng. Likewise, the final interpretant of a human work of art is
genuine knowledge of the reality that serves as its dynamical object.
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well
in advance of Brouwer. In Oostra's words, "his axiomatization of 1885,
omitting Peirce's Law that he included as a last resort to prove the
completeness of CPL, hides the nucleus of an axiomatization of the IPL" (p.
22).
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nd do not believe it" (NEM 3:758, 1893). That is why
"Triadic Logic does not *conflict *with Dyadic Logic; only, it recognizes,
what the latter does not" such that "Triadic Logic is universally true" (R
339:515[344r], 1909).
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Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Stru
of the negation of A is
equivalent to A itself as represented by the double cut rule in existential
graphs. Without excluded middle, as in intuitionistic logic, the relation
of negation is unsymmetrical such that the negation of the negation of A is
*not* equivalent to A itself.
Regards,
Jon Alan
nacy; we look forward to a point in the
infinitely distant future when there will be no indeterminacy or chance but
a complete reign of law. (CP 1.409, EP 1:277, 1887-8)
I might have more to say eventually about some of your other comments.
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Structural E
Jerry, List:
A simple Google search confirms that there is nothing "problematic" or
"radical" about the well-established definition of "ampliative reasoning"
within the discipline of logic.
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,
*necessary *reasoning
is by definition *not *ampliative but merely explicative.
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:22 AM Jerry LR
rfaces*, prompting his unsuccessful experimentation
with a plethora of tinctures in "Prolegomena to an Apology for
Pragmaticism" (1906).
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e would be no change at all. (R 300:49[48])
There is likewise "a real movement of thought" in abductive/retroductive
reasoning, but in the opposite direction. That is why it is ampliative
rather than merely explicative, with the tradeoff that its inferences are
merely plausible
ssible, and the
Executive Committee is going to consider it.
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On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gary Richmond
wrote:
> FYI
&g
Essential Peirce* - $7.99 for Volume 1, $14.74 for Volume 2
($22.73 for both).
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On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 1:59 PM wrote
on merely evolves the necessary consequences of a pure
hypothesis" (CP 5.171, EP 2:216, 1903). That is why truth *per se* always
lies in the future, as the ideal end of inquiry whose method properly
includes all three forms of reasoning.
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Structura
(2ns).
- order (1ns→2ns→3ns) - The temporal sequence of such "events of
creation" consists of spontaneity (1ns) followed by reaction (2ns) and then
habit-taking (3ns).
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." Such an approach would be no more legitimate than relying
entirely on earlier passages and ignoring the later ones.
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refer the latter because it facilitates taking a further step toward *Gamma
*EGs with tinctures as in R 490 (1906), or toward *Intuitionistic *EGs with
no excluded middle as Arnold Oostra has outlined.
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e reasoning into
the greatest possible number of distinct steps and so to force attention to
every requisite of the reasoning" (RL 231, NEM 3:168, June 1911).
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irce>
"On the System of Existential Graphs Considered as an Instrument for the
Investigation of Logic" (R 499 & R 490)? How do they further entail "novel
considerations about ... the constitution of nature," thus touching on
metaphysics? In what sense is synechism a "
an privileging any one article,
letter, or manuscript. Thanks to Dr. Pietarinen, the three volumes of *Logic
of the Future* will greatly facilitate this.
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has been analyzed and shown to be irrelevant.
With the possible exception of the moderator, no one has the unilateral
authority to cut off a List discussion; and again, merely brushing off
objections is not *showing *them to be irrelevant. In any case, this post
obviously demonstrates that t
eing understood on his/her own terms. As Gary Fuhrman once summarized
<https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2016-09/msg00179.html>, "I
assume that he [Peirce] means exactly what he says and says exactly what he
means, until I have sufficient reason to abandon that working assumption.&q
uggesting that it is how *we*
should distinguish them? If the former, what specific passages in Peirce's
writings do you interpret as endorsing such a view?
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ntax of their attachments signifies the pure/continuous
predicate.
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:17 PM Jeffrey Brian Downard
n "error" to
assume that "because the blackened Inner Close can be made indefinitely
small, therefore it can be struck out entirely like an infinitesimal" (CP
4.564n, c. 1906). Instead, when a shaded area is intended to represent
negation--not the antecedent of a conseque
eal"
that he "discovers" how a scroll in EGs can represent a consequence whose
range of possibility is *not *limited to the actual state of things, such
that excluded middle *does not* hold for it. Peirce has more to say about
this, but that seems like enough for now.
Regards,
Jon Alan
n must be
*derived *from the scroll for consequence with a blackened inner close,
rather than treated as a primitive, even when shading is employed instead.
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scholars as a better candidate for rigorous
mathematical treatment of his conception of continuity than Robinson's
non-standard analysis (e.g., Herron <https://www.jstor.org/stable/40320632>,
pp. 621-623; Moore <https://www.jstor.org/stable/40321199>, p. 468 n. 45;
Havenel
<http
I reach a different outcome. My
intention is not at all to detract from the fruitful work that he and
others have been and still are doing within the more technical fields of
contemporary mathematics, inspired by and building upon Peirce's insights
that were indeed "remarkably prescien
ey contribute to a comprehensive Peircean
philosophy of time. Contrary to Moore's negative answer to his own question
<http://revistas.pucsp.br/cognitiofilosofia/article/download/16603/12457>,
my hope is that this formulation (or something like it) might facilitate
demonstrating that synechism is as
ndeed, so far is the concept
of *Sequence
*from being a composite of two Negations, that, on the contrary, the
concept of the Negation of any state of things, X, is, precisely, a
composite of which one element is the concept of Sequence. Namely, it is
the concept of a sequence from X of the essence of fa
3-19 were things like "Cross out the word 'out' in this
sentence" and "Draw a picture of yourself on the back of the page." Then
#20 was "Disregard all instructions except #1 and #2." Obviously the
lesson hit home for me, since I still remember it decades late
testing a
hypothesis that purports to explain them, and #3 is conducting our own
inquiries accordingly.
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2020
its outer close to
become a nested cut, but a nested cut cannot be attached to the outer close
to create a scroll.
Nevertheless, from a strictly *practical *standpoint, I continue to agree
that NEM 3:162-169 is Peirce's simplest and clearest explanation of
existential graphs, especially in conjunctio
otions," but rather *final
*causation of purposive action; i.e., self-controlled habits of conduct
that ideally are governed by an ultimate aim, which esthetics must supply
via ethics.
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w
st we test our
interpretative hypotheses against "the words written on the pages" in a
good-faith effort to make sure that we have properly understood them. Then
we test them against reality by conducting our own inquiries along the same
lines.
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ion in
general, not claiming that there is only one such logic.
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 9:04 AM robert marty
wrote:
>
generation may discover what they mean" (CP 7.87, 1902). How might we work
together as a community of inquirers to collaborate further in discovering
the meaning of the vast and remarkable body of premisses that he collected
for us? What additional methods of interpretation should we include in
eem to have is "putting together" someone else's ideas in a
new way--what I have variously called "harmonizing," "regularizing,"
"synthesizing," or "systematizing."
As Peirce states plainly, this kind of insight is "extremely fallible"
'would be,' i.e., is what it *would* determine in the
interpreter if there were one" (EP 2:409, 1907).
Does that clear things up?
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e in accordance with Gary
Richmond's vector
<https://arisbe.sitehost.iu.edu/menu/library/aboutcsp/richmond/trikonic.htm>
of process (1ns→3ns→2ns).
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Menno
Hulswit for proposing such an approach, although he substitutes "necessary
condition" for "formal cause" in the first bullet. On the other hand, the
last three bullets reflect my own current understanding of the process of
semeiosis and the speculative grammar that I have de
the Form may or may not be
embodied entitatively, but it must be embodied representatively, that is,
in respect to the Form communicated, the Sign produces upon the
Interpretant an effect similar to that which the Object itself would under
favorable circumstances. (EP 2:544n22, 1906)
Regards,
Jon
. "For any set of Signs which are so connected
that a complex of two of them can have one interpretant, must be
Determinations of one Sign which is a *Quasi-mind*" (CP 4.550, 1906). Is
this what you have in mind?
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signs of
the weather, groups of experiences serving as premisses, etc." (EP 2:404,
1907)--the corresponding (dashed) oval is erased, and there is
obviously also no commens.
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very proposition
has two parts, subjects (indices) and predicate (icon), but goes back and
forth on whether to treat the copula (symbol) as a distinct third part.
Regards,
Jon S.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 7:25 PM Jon Alan Schmidt
wrote:
> List:
>
> According to Peirce in this manuscript,
olarization
reveals deep disagreements about the proper *ends *of human feeling,
conduct, and thought. If I may add another question to the list, how might
Peirce's insights be brought to bear on these and other such contexts?
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professio
tion" does
seem to be potentially broader in meaning than "retroduction," as you both
have been suggesting. I was wrong to assert otherwise.
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being opposed, but from
our own reason. (EP 2:485)
Put another way, the subjects of an assertion are "whatever there is of
which sufficient knowledge cannot be conveyed in the proposition itself,
but collateral experience on the part of its interpreter is requisite" (NEM
3:885). Howe
ual framework can result in
misunderstanding and misapplication of his ideas; most notably, the
rejection of final causation, which he explicitly affirms.. Moreover, my
arguments are robustly realist rather than conceptualist (or nominalist),
recognizing that reality includes some possibilities (may-be
already noted that a Sign has an Object and an Interpretant,
the latter being that which the Sign produces in the Quasi-mind that is the
Interpreter by determining the latter to a feeling, to an exertion, or to a
Sign, which determination is the Interpretant. (CP 4.536, 1906)
Regards,
Jon Alan Schm
(triadic) relations are more explicitly aligned with *mathematical *notions
of 1ns/2ns/3ns than qualities/relations/representations and what he
eventually calls "the purest conceptions" of the categories--"quality,
reaction, and mediation" (CP 1.530, 1903).
Regards,
ation of Aristotle's *ἀπαγωγή*.
Thanks,
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 7:24 AM wrote:
> Jon AS,
>
> Thanks as always for tracing ou
nly way of directly communicating
an idea [or mental construction] is by means of an icon [such as a
diagram]" (23[27], 2.278).
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O
gs (1ns), while energetic interpretants are
exertions (2ns) that *involve* feelings (1ns).
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 9:43 AM
te 11 on page 537, which
tells the full story of the illegible word by quoting CP 7.250-251 (1901).
Peirce eventually seems to stick with "retroduction," from about 1907 until
the end of his life, presumably because it better captures the *logical*
notion of reasoning backwards &quo
sential ingredient of
the interpreter as the *interpretant *(EP 2:409-410). Every sign has a
conditionally necessary (final) interpretant, and thus a possible
(immediate) interpretant, even if it never has an actual (dynamical)
interpretant because there does not happen to be an interpreter presen
to qualify as a sign. It is sufficient
that (1) it *may *determine a dynamical interpretant under various
circumstances by virtue of having an *immediate *interpretant, and (2)
it *would
*determine a dynamical interpretant under ideal circumstances by virtue of
having a *final *interpretant.
Regard
ve now been
published. I believe that Volume 2 of *Logic of the Future* only includes
various drafts of the first five lectures that discuss existential graphs,
not the last three, so the transcriptions on your website will continue to
be a valuable resource.
Thanks,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas,
ferent from his.
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 10:29 AM Edwina Taborsky wrote:
> JAS, list.
>
> Names matter only if t
long
as we recognize and acknowledge the differences rather than conflating them.
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:47 AM Edwina Taborsky
not at his
> disposal more than 100 years ago? Otherwise, wouldn't the pure approach
> literalist be a true corset for research completely contrary to the
> foundations of his thought ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robert
>
> Le sam. 13 juin 2020 à 03:15, Jon Alan Schmidt
certain *aspects *of his
thought, grounded carefully in his entire corpus. I will always appreciate
how the List has served as a sounding board for presenting, correcting, and
refining my thinking on such matters.
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Professional Engineer, A
*hecceity*, by which
they could be *this* and *that* independently of their likeness to one
another ... The vagueness of every idea deprives it of absolute identity
even with itself" (R 787:21[25]). It is an idea in *this *sense that
according to Peirce can only be communicated "by means o
must be a
determination of a quasi-mind. This quasi-mind is itself a sign, a
determinable sign" (SS 195, 1906).
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On
" (EP 2:478,
1908). Immediate/dynamical/final seems to be more readily generalizable.
AvB: As a backwoodsman, his work is fragmentary going in and coming from
all kinds of directions.
I agree, which is why I sometimes go beyond his ideas myself; but I always
try to acknowledge when and how
*causation. A properly functioning weathercock points
in a certain direction because the wind is *actually *blowing from that way
and forces it to do so accordingly.
RM: In this case it is a quality of "the concrete thing that represents"
that makes the sign
No, that would be a qual
the best--really, the only--method for
learning his way of thinking. Accordingly, quoting Peirce's own words is
the best--really, the only--method for supporting one's interpretations of
his writings.
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Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosophe
entlessly
> and on every occasion bring the outside world back into the mind and thus
> deny the reality of the outside social world.
>
>
>
> I think you are distorting Peirce's thinking in this way, and I am clearly
> opposed to it. I also think you are trying to compensate for th
ne sign*.
I am still wondering what you mean by "conceptualism" in this context and
why you attribute it to me. Could you please enlighten me on this before
you continue your reading, as well?
Thanks,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Luth
ed subjective view or model. The view of a sign as representation I had
> called objective model. There the sign is not isolated by an event horizon,
> as representation can include the whole universe in no time by just saying
> "Universe". I think this is more or less wha
others?
Again, I am not sure what you mean here. Could you give an example of such
a diagram?
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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:
th" of being. The "Truth," the fact that is not abstracted
but complete, is *the ultimate interpretant of every sign*. (EP 2:304,
1904, bold added)
While it has taken several posts and many, many words, I hope that I have
finally succeeded in fully spelling out for you my current thi
g representation that it
is intended to determine. This interpreting representation is, of course,
the conclusion. (CP 5.76, EP 2:164, 1903)
Peirce later recorded an important clarification in his Logic Notebook.
CSP: The Immediate Interpretant is the interpretant represented,
explicitly or implici
object determines the sign token to
determine the dynamical interpretant. The sign token is passive in its
relation to the *dynamical *object and active in its relation to the *dynamical
*interpretant. The dynamical object is unaffected by the sign token, which
is unaffected by the dynamical inte
tly what you are saying here. However, again,
the dynamical object of the commens is not *in *the universe of reality, it
*is* the universe of reality.
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
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