Because of the change in the address, this message did not go through last
time. I hope it goes this time. ajit
>>ricardo:
>>
>>All claims to truth are "arbitrary"? In saying this you can easily
>>fall prey to the kind of criticism Devine has correctly made ag
.
On the latter, I'm trying to clarify my thoughts.)
>You have implicitly made a claim to somekind of "truth" without spelling
it out, i.e. you have made an assertion that there is something called
truth and "rational" thought must refer to such truth in its discours
>At 11:15 2/10/97 -0700, Jim wrote:
>>Ajit writes: >Since all the claims to "truth" are arbitrary, <
>>
>>Ajit, why should anyone believe this sweeping statement? that is, why is it
>>true?
>>(Since it is a premise for the rest of the com
Ajit wrote: >>>Since all the claims to "truth" are arbitrary, <<<
I wrote: >>Ajit, why should anyone believe this sweeping statement? that
is, why is it true? (Since it is a premise for the rest of the comment, its
falsity undermines the rest.) If it
> Date sent: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:57:56 -0700 (PDT)
> Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Bill Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Bill Burguess writes:
> An example of how attention to Hegel helps is Mike Lebo
Paul Z. wrote:
>
> Bill, I haven't seen the Anderson work (have others?), but it sounds
> curious. Why would Stalinism promote 1908 Lenin except as part of the
> Lenin cult it wanted? just as it used Marx when useful. Paul
>
Louis P. added some useful detail on the political background to
Ricardo D. wrote
>
> My problem with this is that adding "sides" to an argument does not
> constitute by itself a dialectical approach. Marxist have the wrong
> habit of thinking that if they connects "x" to "y", then they are
> dialectical. Moreover, how many sides does one incorporate
At 11:15 7/10/97 -0500, Paul Zarembka wrote:
>Ajit,
>
>I infer from your reaction that you have not read Lenin. He precisely
>says that none of us possess "absolute truth", "the truth", etc. What
>Lenin does say is that scientists, including Marxists, work fr
>At 10:04 7/10/97 -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
>>Ajit Sinha wrote:
>>
>>>You have implicitly made a claim to
>>>somekind of "truth" without spelling it out, i.e. you have made an
>>>assertion that there is something called truth and "ratio
At 15:03 8/10/97 +1000, Ricardo wrote:
>>If you meant to say outright that all truths are "arbitrary", then
>>Devine's criticism (and now Doug's as well) apply.
No. I don't think so. Let's suppose that the claim to absolute truth is
interna
anything to make sense.)
___
Is it because you said so, or you got some arguments for it?
__
Given that assumption, a greater _approach_
>to the truth would involve having a subjective picture of that
>reality that fits the objective reality more accurately and
>completely.
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Ajit Sinha wrote:
> I think 'historical materialism' can be read as an implicit critique of the
> notion of 'absolute' or 'objective' truth.
On what BASIS are you claiming that 'historical materialism' is an
implicit critique
Ajit Sinha writes: >>As anyone could see in Jim's response, he fumbled almost
every second line. <<
Ajit tells us that _all_ statements of truth are arbitrary (i.e., "coming
about seemingly at random or by chance or as as a capricious and unreasonable
act of will"
At 14:22 13/10/97 -0400, Paul Zarembka wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Ajit Sinha wrote:
>
>> I think 'historical materialism' can be read as an implicit critique of the
>> notion of 'absolute' or 'objective' truth.
>
>On what BASIS are you
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> I'll take up the last point first, because I think this is the most
> important point. The question is: can one make 'sense' without making a
> claim to 'absolute truth' or 'objec
Ajit Sinha writes:
>I think coherence and internal
>consistency of an argument is good enough to make 'sense' without any claim
>to 'objective truth'.
Any argument makes sense when you're trapped inside its parameters. Ask my
wife the therapist how coherent and
To even speak of OBJECTIVE and RELATIVE truth is to commit oneself to a whole
quagmire of philosophical presuppositions that are of questionable usefulness
even if they make some vague sense and give people the feeling they are talking
about something profound.
I was alway impressed, in
> Date sent: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:08:16 +1100
> Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:Re: truth
Ajit, I agree that Althusser's theory of knowledge
can meet some
At 15:43 16/10/97 -0400, Ricardo wrote:
>> Ajit's basic claim is that all claims to objective truth assume the
>> objectivity of truth. Whichever way they turn, the defenders of
>> objectivity cannot avoid making this assumption. And Ajit will
>> keep on remind
The following is an original message, despite the citation marks.
The debate on "truth" is showing signs of dissipation, and that's
> indicative of how difficult it is to talk about "objective truth
At 13:41 14/10/97 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
>Ajit Sinha writes: >>As anyone could see in Jim's response, he fumbled almost
>every second line. <<
>
>Ajit tells us that _all_ statements of truth are arbitrary (i.e., "coming
>about seemingly at random o
Except in the context of philosophical systems such as that of Hegel I
don't see that the concept of "relative truth" makes very much sense.
What would it mean to claim that I just sent this message to Pen-L
is a relative truth? The idea that there is no absolute truth seems
At 11:37 5/10/97 -0500, Paul Zarembka asked
:
>** Reply to note from Ajit Sinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun, 05 Oct
1997 18:46:45 +1000
>
>Is it time for this list to get into "absolute truth" or "objective truth",
>"relative truth", and Le
At 08:52 6/10/97 -0700, Jim wrote:
>Is it a central part of post-rational "thought" that one simply repeats
>one's point rather than defending it? (or to find jokes that aren't there?)
>
>So, I'll repeat mine: in what sense can one "show" the "
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:04:24 +1000
>
> At 11:37 5/10/97 -0500, Paul Zarembka asked
> >
> >Is it time for this list to get into "absolute truth" or "objective truth",
> >"relative truth", and
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>
> I just happened to skim through Kevin Anderson's _Lenin, Hegel, and
> Western Marxism (U of Ill. Press, 1995) who argues Lenin's position in
> his 1
Ajit Sinha wrote:
>You have implicitly made a claim to
>somekind of "truth" without spelling it out, i.e. you have made an
>assertion that there is something called truth and "rational" thought must
>refer to such truth in its discourse. Now, the burden is on
w boots.
This is a very crude summary. My reason for offering it is to ask for more
discussion on this issue, since I too am tired of the continual
suggestions that 'classical' Marxism ever claimed ABSOLUTE truth or that
subjectivity in knowledge is a pomo discovery. At the same time it
** Reply to note from Ajit Sinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:46:45
+1000
Is it time for this list to get into "absolute truth" or "objective truth",
"relative truth", and Lenin's
Ricardo asked me to forward this to pen-l. Since I'm in great rush right
now, I would be responding to all my critics in a few days. Till then take
care, ajit
>If you meant to say outright that all truths are "arbitrary", then
>Devine's criticism (and now Doug&#x
Ken,
I cannot say I know what you are talking about. But one item struck me:
> ...There are oodles of non-trivial true statements.
> "I am now composing a message re "truth"", "Some people can see. Some are
> blind." "Ottawa is the capital of Can
Sorry, I overlooked this earlier.
Paul writes:
Ken,
I cannot say I know what you are talking about. But one item struck me:
> ...There are oodles of non-trivial true statements.
> "I am now composing a message re "truth"", "Some people can see. Some are
>
Ken Hanly writes: >Except in the context of philosophical systems such as
that of Hegel I don't see that the concept of "relative truth" makes very
much sense. What would it mean to claim that I just sent this message to
Pen-L is a relative truth? <
To me it would me
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Jim Devine writes:
As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
=
According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
whole".
Michael K.
Carrol asks:
How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
emphasizes that "the truth" as a static entity does not exist but is
rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
less) to align the mind, but that alignment will
Ajit writes: >Since all the claims to "truth" are arbitrary, <
Ajit, why should anyone believe this sweeping statement? that is, why is it
true?
(Since it is a premise for the rest of the comment, its falsity undermines
the rest.)
If it's not true, I wonder why you found i
quot;involving elements of
subjectivity or ideology," then your proposition that all statements of
truth are arbitrary would be generally acceptable and we could end this
discussion. If you had clearly defined what you meant by "arbitrary" from
the start, neither Doug nor Paul nor I w
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FEATURE STORY | Special Report
Terrorism and Globalization
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The organizers of the Globalization and Resistance Conference, held at
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[was: RE:[PEN-L:19912] RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doug tells
thetruth..]
Max Sawicki writes: >Now let us all bow our heads in a moment of silence over the
impending demise of several thousand fascist, anti-semitic, misogynist terrorists.
(One suspects they are not down wi
Doug tells the truth..
by Doug Henwood
(((
CB: Doug, if imperialism/globalization is not the main cause of terrorism, what is the
cause of terrorism ?
(((
But are
> things really that simple? Latin America and East> Asia, two of the
> reg
Max tells the "truth"
by Max Sawicky
26 November 2001
Selective pacifism reflects confusion.
Consistent pacifism is not confused; it's just wrong.
%
CB: If you are not a selective pacifist and not a consistent pacificist, does this
mean you are in some sense against pe
How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
emphasizes that "the truth" as a static entity does not exist but is
rather a constantly changing process, with which it is possible (more or
less) to align the mind, but that alignment will be more or less unt
At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
>
>Michael K.
does
Well, according to Tim Horton's "the hole is the Timbit."
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
>
>Michael K.
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Keaney Michael wrote:
>Jim Devine writes:
>
>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>
>=
>
>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the true is the
>whole".
And of course Adorno said "the whole is the false."
Doug
Ian Murray wrote:
>
> >LARGE CLIP]
>
> What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> assertion? It was Protagoras who said "man is the measure..."
>
There are multiple answers to this. One is that you can't not believe
it. You see the line you are now rea
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Dumbocrat candidate JFK just slipped up and told the truth:
"I will double our special forces in order to conduct terrorist operations."
Thats what he said.
Shane Mage
"Thunderbolt steers all things...It consents and does not
consent to be called Zeus."
Herakleitos of Ephesos
on", if by which you mean a critical
attitude. I don't think you need any claim to "truth" to critique others
claims to truth though. All we need is some strategy of conviencing others,
which would be different in different socio-cultural circumstances. It does
not have to be a cl
At 22/11/01 23:18 -0800, you wrote:
>< http://www.thenation.com >
>FEATURE STORY | Special Report
>
>Terrorism and Globalization
>by DOUG HENWOOD
Doug's ability to "doubt everything" serves him well in this journalistic
article which for the audience, may be more creative than coming up with
p
"The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in
favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan
towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis,
he favours the destruction of whate
Doug seems to suggest that since Afghan. has been relatively untouched by
globalization, the link between terror and globalization has yet to be
proved.
Of course, I have not heard of any Afghani terrorists; supposedly many of
the hijackers on S 11 were from Saudi Arabia.
--
Michael Perelman
Ec
but I have found your attitude beyond the pale or reasonable discourse.
Greg Schofield
Perth Australia
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rritory.
There
isn't sufficient reason not to apply that logic to the U.S. v. taliban/al
qaida.
You are all morally confused and locked into pamphlet time warp ("war
credits"!). But you are not vile. Perelman's mung bean casserole is vile.
yrs in truth,
mbs
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From: Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:59:44 -0800
Subject: [PEN-L:19957] Re: RE: Re: Max tells the "truth"
> I am sure Michael will want this thread closed
> for content, as he did in November, but perhaps
> Max can clarify where the technical problem is.
>
> Chris Burford
Such things happen every now and then. Virus is definitely one
possibility, a very long and very slow trip with delays around
the
"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the whole." I
am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
>
>At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
>>Jim Devine writes:
>>
>>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the t
At 12:46 PM 5/30/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Keaney Michael wrote:
>
>>Jim Devine writes:
>>
>>As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
>>
>>=
>>
>>According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read "the t
Jim Devine wrote:
>
> At 11:19 AM 05/30/2001 +0300, you wrote:
> >Jim Devine writes:
> >
> >As Baran & Sweezy quote Hegel to say, "the truth is the whole."
> >
> >=
> >
> >According to Paul Diesing, this should actually read &q
- Original Message -
From: Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>How do you interpret this distinction? A guess: Diesing's translation
>emphasizes that "the truth" as a static entity does not exist but is
>rather a constantly changing process, with which it
(Coming in on this thread late, here, sorry, just got back on the list this
morning)
>"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the whole." I
>am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
Actually, Hegel's phrase is "Das Wahre ist d
> > What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> > assertion [that the truth -- or the true -- is the whole]?
I liked Carrol's answer, but I have my own. Hegel's assertion is more a way
of testing/verifying/falsifying theories than
As I recall, Thrasymachus says that justiice is the interest of the stronger
not the right of the stronger. Why would you read it as a statement about
the right of the peasantry and artisans to participate in politics. Surely
Thrasymachus did not take them as the stronger. Thrasymachus and Protago
ocrat tells the truth
Dumbocrat candidate JFK just slipped up and told the truth:
"I will double our special forces in order to conduct terrorist operations."
Thats what he said.
Shane Mage
"Thunderbolt steers all things...It consents and does not
consent to be called Zeus."
Herakleitos of Ephesos
Tom Walker said
> God, the devil and Kondratieff long waves are stories that some people
> use to help them understand how we have arrived at current
> social-economic conditions.
Tom, if you had a broken leg, would you go to a doctor or to a
herbalist?
Eric Nilsson
Department of Economics
whoa, Mark. Rather than characterize Doug as a craven apologist, let him
elaborate if he wants to do so.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>When assessing 'the truth' of Henwood's politics, let us begin with this
>obvious fact -- the man is simply a craven apologist for exterminism, for
>US imperialism in its newest and most lethal guise.
>
>
Oh, he's worse than that. He's a running
Mark in the apoplectic mode contends:
"The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in
favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan
towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis,
he f
>
> Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here. Doug, Steve, Joan
> Robinson, etc. are saying that under capitalism it's better to be
> employed than unemployed; Ali, Paul, etc. are saying that capitalism
> on the periphery is very much worse than other modes of production &
> especially so wh
Christian writes:>To be "unemployed" is to be within capital's orbit (ie it's a
distinction that applies to populations constructed statistically by nation-states and
super-national bodies.) Robinson is saying that being outside of that orbit is far
worse than being in it. That is, even unemploy
> > Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes here. Doug, Steve, Joan
>> Robinson, etc. are saying that under capitalism it's better to be
>> employed than unemployed; Ali, Paul, etc. are saying that capitalism
>> on the periphery is very much worse than other modes of production &
>> especia
then why write to me?
Sorry Max but I have found your attitude beyond the pale or reasonable
discourse.
Greg Schofield
Perth Australia
Wierd, my wife told me the same thing last night.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:14:42PM -0500, Max Sawicky wrote:
> You are all morally confused and locked into pamphlet time warp ("war
> credits"!). But you are not vile. Perelman's mung bean casserole is vile.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Depar
mbs: > ... The selectivity [of pacifism] derives from a variation of
"within the revolution everything/against the revolution, nothing." There is
purportedly some threshold of righteousness that excuses uses of force
resulting in non-trivial levels of atrocity (death of innocents, etc.), and
belo
wives and at least as many mistresses.
Binary thinking is a Western mental disorder.
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Subject: [PEN-L:19949] RE: Max tells the "truth"
MJ: "The truth"about Doug 'I'm no pacifist' Henwood is that he, too, is in
favour of US policy, that is, Henwood favours the policy of bombing Afghan
towns and cities, he favours the random and/or mass slaughter of Afghanis,
he favours the destruction of whate
> (Coming in on this thread late, here, sorry, just got back on the
list this
> morning)
>
> >"Die Wahrheit ist die Ganze" will translate as "The truth is the
whole." I
> >am pretty sure that is how Miller does it. --jks
>
>
> Actually, Hegel&#
-being. Reality is a whole, or plenum,
probably spherical. The truth is the whole or the One but there are no holes
in it! It is certainly not the Absolute Mind or Whatever...it just is or
BE's .to say anything else gets you into the realm of opinion...
Cheers, Ken Hanly
> Actually,
. .
Hence, it is all continuous. . . . "
The writing style gives it away as the ancient Greek, but otherwise it
would pass for the crusty Teuton. (At least his precursor.) We're sent
on a journey from questions of existence to those of ethics, choice,
change, and ultimately, we return to the t
Jim Devine wrote:
>
> > > What is the whole? How could we possibly test/verify/falsify Hegel's
> > > assertion [that the truth -- or the true -- is the whole]?
>
> I liked Carrol's answer, but I have my own. Hegel's assertion is more a way
>
If truth is whole, Hegelian truth would do well to be studied in the context
of the whole of German philosophy, if not world philosophy. The sudden
re-start, in medias res, in the wake of Kant and the mysterious decade of the
1790's as Kant's system is a) transcended b) plundered of
reports consistent with a
contrary political view.
There is also the small matter of the truth of
what is happening. Efforts to obscure this do
not uphold the credibility of the speaker, assuming
they have any credibility to begin with.
Acknowledgement of whatever crimes the FARC
et al. are
Nathan, I should have added that I know that you were not the first to
mention Kosovo, but I would hate to see us go over that again unless
someone had something new to add.
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:45:26PM -0400, Nathan Newman wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Perelman" <[
Title: the Lynch truth is coming out...
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>
><< I have never said that Milosevic is a
> proponent of socialism
>
>I am relieved; I thought you were losing it. One could have got that
>impression.
Why so? I don't think anyone who has read my
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ploited by
capitalists is
nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited
at all.") These
facts complicate the simple derivation of terrorism
from
globalization."
Isn't this too economoizing, ie reductionist, and
therefore economizing with the truth. Waht is this
hang up with th
Doug went into more detail in LBO, but Stephen, you should not pile onto
the flames by attacking Mark.
On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 07:12:22AM -1000, Stephen E Philion wrote:
>
> --Wierd, on other lists I've not seen any evidence of this. He's
> challenged the likes of Leo Casey on LBO and Soc. Regis
First of all, this sort of exchange has no place here.
Second, this particular debate seems to involve Max vs. the others. When
we reach that stage, especially when it becomes repetitive, it is time to
stop.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:51:00AM -0500, Max Sawicky wrote:
> then why write to me?
>
jd again:
. . . It depends on whether Lenin were leading a workers' democratic
government or
not and acted according to the principles of workers' democracy. If he were
a dictator of the proletariat rather than being subject to the democratic
will of the proletariat, he could easily be as bad as B
"Devine, James" wrote:
>
>
>
> BTW, in terms of strategy & tactics, I'm a pacifist. I don't think that the
> left should engage in violence unless it's absolutely necessary. Further, it
> might be okay it's done in a way to promote grass-roots democracy and
> popular power. The latter is real
only the [being / creature /
nature / essence] fulfilling itself through its development. It should be
said of the Absolute that it is essentially result, that it is not what it
is in truth until the end; and this is precisely what its nature to be
[actual / real (thing)], subject, or [self-realisati
Max wrote:
>There is also the small matter of the truth of
>what is happening. Efforts to obscure this do
>not uphold the credibility of the speaker, assuming
>they have any credibility to begin with.
>Acknowledgement of whatever crimes the FARC
>et al. are guilty of would st
loys atrocity reports can hardly
> hope to delegitimize reports consistent with a
> contrary political view.
>
> There is also the small matter of the truth of
> what is happening. Efforts to obscure this do
> not uphold the credibility of the speaker, assuming
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