Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

2013-09-05 Thread Joan Wang
ent based on the nature of the handbook. *About the Authors* * * *Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. * Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

2013-09-05 Thread Joan Wang
t; > 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor > > New York, NY 10010 > > Phone: (646) 312-1687 > > Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA]

Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry

2013-09-05 Thread Joan Wang
Also, some books could be a "combination" of relevant content rather than an original creation and writing. For your reference :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > From the information about Frank Booty*. *He is used to be an editor :) > Yes. I made an ass

Re: [RDA-L] Relator terms relation to work

2013-09-03 Thread Joan Wang
I should say the intellectual content of a work :-) On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > I think that we can expand the relationships to projects embodied in a > work, such as a legal case, a thesis, and a government policy. > > Thanks, > Joan Wang > Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] Relator terms relation to work

2013-09-03 Thread Joan Wang
I think that we can expand the relationships to projects embodied in a work, such as a legal case, a thesis, and a government policy. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:23 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > I've forgotten whether it was on Autocat

Re: [RDA-L] PCC RDA record examples

2013-09-03 Thread Joan Wang
examples. But then, the > same if true of the whole RDA. The rewrite is still far short of > Michael Gorman's clarity in AACR2. > > >__ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) > {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ > ___}

[RDA-L] PCC RDA record examples

2013-09-03 Thread Joan Wang
00-711 or 800-811, or in a name/title linking field tagged MARC 76x-78x*”. How can I understand the guideline 12? Is it applicable to the two 700 fields? Thank you very much for your time. Regards, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library

Re: [RDA-L] Duplicate page numbering

2013-08-30 Thread Joan Wang
I feel that "cxciv, 47, 47, 48-148 pages" looks better. "cxciv, 47, 47, 148 pages" could be interpreted as various pagings. But it is not the truth. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:46 PM, John Hostage wrote: > What about "c

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

2013-08-30 Thread Joan Wang
play an important role in searching. They help more for understanding (at the semantic level or data element level). I think that that is the reason for the omission or addition of punctuations.Punctuations should be used as a technique :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

2013-08-30 Thread Joan Wang
It does not make many sense if we transcribe it as "S-h-e". Who cares about that? users or catalogers? If we consider dash separating letters in the word a punctuation, I would suggest an omission of punctuations that disturb a word to be complete. Just my opinion :-) Thanks, Joan Wan

Re: [RDA-L] Title with embedded square brackets

2013-08-30 Thread Joan Wang
a title page. Should we consider dash as a punctuation and keep them? Have fun :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: > Transcribe square brackets found on the source of information used. > > 2.3.1.4 Transcribe

Re: [RDA-L] Bibliographic 380

2013-08-29 Thread Joan Wang
to construct terms if we need. Or, it is a common sense? Any more advice? Many thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:47 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Thank you Thomas for letting me know that 380 may be used in > bibliographic records. (One catalogue

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Joan Wang
t is requested to advise the > sender and delete this email immediately. > > Although this email has been scanned for viruses, this email is not > guaranteed to be free of viruses and should be vetted by your own security > mechanisms. The Parliament of Western Australia accepts no

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks. Thomas. I have not gone through your responses. But I notice that you mentioned 380 form of work. It is possible to give some instructions about the use of 380 field in bibliographic records? I mean in what situations we should use 380 fields. Many thanks for that in advance. Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] My new blog post about RDA in China

2013-08-27 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks for sharing. I read the article. I can image the situation of the implementation of RDA in China :-) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Li Kai wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I wrote a new blog post about RDA's developments i

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

2013-08-23 Thread Joan Wang
Sorry. should be allowed to use (not us). Thanks. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > Bernadette > > Thanks for your explanation. I know what you mean. My question actually is > these two terms are quite close. It would be hard for us to choose if they > both ar

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

2013-08-23 Thread Joan Wang
Bernadette Thanks for your explanation. I know what you mean. My question actually is these two terms are quite close. It would be hard for us to choose if they both are allowed to us. Thanks again, Joan Wang On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Bernadette Mary O'Reilly < bernade

Re: [RDA-L] Reconciliation of RDA and MARC relators

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
ly > Catalogue Support Librarian > > Bodleian Libraries, > Osney One Building > Osney Mead > Oxford OX2 0EW. > > bernadette.orei...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk > 01865 2-77134 > > *** > > ** ** > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Manufacture statement

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
Sorry. Should be option 2. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > I feel that the answer should be option 1. A similar case is for copyright > date. A copyright date is only required if neither date of publication nor > date of distribution is identified. So far I only

Re: [RDA-L] Manufacture statement

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
x27;t gotten a chance to see records with three dates: a probable publication date, a probable distribution date, and a copyright date. So I assume there is no such requirement. Is that right? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > Hi, all > > I have a question about manufac

[RDA-L] Manufacture statement

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
feel that I may have to take option 1. Isn't it too much work? Many thanks for your help in advance. Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with copyright date and first published date and reprint date

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
indicator 4), the only thing you need is sub-field c for the copyright date. As you did, put a symbol before the date. Hopefully it helps. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Basma Chebani wrote: > Hello, > > I have one a case with the

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date

2013-08-22 Thread Joan Wang
u > > Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not > represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information > or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that > of the original sender and does not represent the vi

Re: [RDA-L] Recording text and symbol in copyright dates

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
This is the rule: Precede the date by the copyright symbol (©) or the phonogram copyright symbol (℗). If the appropriate symbol cannot be reproduced, precede the date by copyright or phonogram copyright. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Crum, Cathy

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
t;Published to commemorate XYZ"--Unnumbered page 2. > > Hate it. Silliest page reference since "Page 4 of cover" for > back cover. > > >__ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) > {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
Walter F. Nickeson, Catalog & > > Metadata Management Librarian > > Rush Rhees Library > > University of Rochester > > Rochester, NY 14627-0055**** > > wnicke...@library.rochester.edu > > (585) 273-2326 fax: (585)

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
"page ii" seems to make more sense :-) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > OK! Now I know what you are saying. Put a word to indicate that? like > "unnumbered page 2"? > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Nickeson, Walter < > wnicke..

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
*** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:20 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *

Re: [RDA-L] Citing an unnumbered page

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
r F. Nickeson, Catalog & > Metadata Management Librarian > Rush Rhees Library > University of Rochester > Rochester, NY 14627-0055 > wnicke...@library.rochester.edu > (585) 273-2326 fax: (585) 273-1032 > * > -- Z

Re: [RDA-L] Extent -- some ideas

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
carriers. So if a carrier type includes a pagination, record it. Apparently RDA attempts to use pagination instead of volume to record extent of volumes mainly with text. But it forgets that not only text could be carried by a volume. I feel that is why it causes a trouble :-) Thanks, Joan Wang

Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date

2013-08-21 Thread Joan Wang
Congress Policy encourages you to supply a probable publication date. The policy includes a guideline for supplying a probable publication date. Does that make sense? Thank you. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Amy Mercer wrote: > I have seen m

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

2013-08-20 Thread Joan Wang
I feel that the modification in your case more likes a revision. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > "Adaptation" in RDA seems to mean the modification would result in another > literary form. > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Smith wr

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

2013-08-20 Thread Joan Wang
gt; >> 330-672-1703 >> >> lmccu...@kent.edu >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and >> Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 775 (not 776) for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

2013-08-20 Thread Joan Wang
level. Does "excerpts" means an abbreviated version? Or mean a "rewriting"? If it means a "rewriting", the relationship will be at the work level. See if anybody else can help more. I am also learning :-) Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:09 AM, MCCUTC

Re: [RDA-L] Question re: 776 for Custom Editions, which are excerpts/adapted from full textbooks

2013-08-20 Thread Joan Wang
I am not sue if the custom edition in your email means a different edition or a different physical form. If it is a different edition, I would use 775. If it is a different physical form, I would use 776. Hopefully it helps :-) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Aug 20, 2013

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-16 Thread Joan Wang
l situation. > > Web searches are a great help. I find one can almost always find > something. > > To record where you found data use field 588, e.g.: > > 588 $aPublication information based on author's website viewed ... > > > __ __ J. McRee (Mac) El

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
ay KNOW that something was > published between 2000 and 2004, or you may assume that it was PROBABLY > published between 2000 and 2004; those are two different things. Yes, Kevin. You are right. I just read RDA 1.9.2.4 and 1.9.2.5 and found the difference. Thanks. Also thanks to Adam :-)

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
gt; > > ** ** > > Thanks so much -- Shahrzad > > * * > > * * > > * *** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
Forgot to say, a probable country would like this: [United States?] On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > It is possible to supply a probable county, like United States? Also,Place > (upper-cased) not place > > :-) > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM,

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
> Adam Schiff > University of Washington Libraries > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Joan Wang wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:05:22 -0500 > > From: Joan Wang > > Reply-To: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and > Access > > > >

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
/lc-dev.searchtechnologies.com/saved/Mabibl_264> #1 $a … $b … $c [between 1993 and 1999] 008/06 Type of date q 008/07-10 1993 008/11-14 1999 Thank you very much for your time. Regards, Joan On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > Adam > > Thanks a lot for

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
Adam Thanks a lot for letting me know :-) Joan On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: > Joan, > > The between dates should have a question mark at the end according to RDA. > > Adam Schiff > University of Washington Libraries > > On Thu, 15 A

Re: [RDA-L] Unknown date

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
ither an earliest or latest possible year. I would > say that based on the condition of the piece, I am able to assume a > century. > > Thank you, > > Gary Oliver > Abilene Christian University > > ** ** > > -- > - > Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. > Stuttgart Media University > Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany > www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi > > ** ** > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Illustration terms in 7.15.1.3

2013-08-15 Thread Joan Wang
e is a necessity for "chiefly illustrations". In such a case, the artist (if there is one) would be in 100 field. Is that right? Any more clarification is appreciated. Thanks Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < wies

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators in LC Records

2013-08-14 Thread Joan Wang
- Reproductions (LC Core) Related items - Reproductions (LC Core) - Special relationships for rare materials as warranted (LC Core) - “Bound with” (LC Core) Serial relationships (LC Core) Thanks, Joan Wang On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Arakawa, Steven wrote: > *I beli

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

2013-08-09 Thread Joan Wang
ized > ones), changing the 650 for Large type books has not been a priority, > especially as we get records from multiple sources, many of which continue > to use 650 (including LC). > > It would be about a 15-minute batch job to change just under 5000 large > print bibliographic records. > > There does seem to be a need for greater co-ordination between > genre/form/audience 650/655 terms and bibliographic elements (variable and > controlled). > > Thomas Brenndorfer > Guelph Public Library > > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Date given in an incomplete form

2013-08-08 Thread Joan Wang
ataire visé, vous > n’avez aucun droit d’utiliser cette information, de la copier, de la > distribuer ou de la diffuser. Si cette communication vous a été transmise > par erreur, veuillez la détruire et nous en aviser immédiatement par > courriel. > > ** ** > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

2013-08-08 Thread Joan Wang
d Manuscripts > > 1080 Chapel Street, PO Box 208280, New Haven, CT 06520 > > 203.432.9672francis.la...@yale.edu > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Acces

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

2013-08-08 Thread Joan Wang
isher's name. I do not mind the removal of "other than solely publishing" in instruction at 2.8.4.4. But it seems to be a big difference :) At least the relevant instructions in the three statements are not consistent. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Deborah Fritz w

Re: [RDA-L] Capitalization in 2.9.4.4

2013-08-08 Thread Joan Wang
d be changed like this: 2.9.4.4 Record words or phrases indicating the function (other than solely distributing) performed by a person, family, or corporate body as they appear on the source of information. My opinion! Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at

Re: [RDA-L] RDA--How dynamic is it?

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
f Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a > courtesy for information only. > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 300 #e

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
Cataloging and Interim Coordinator > of Collection Development > > Harvey A. Andruss Library > > Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania > > 400 E. 2nd St. > > Bloomsburg PA 17815**** > > 570-389-4226 > > mhinc...@bloomu.edu > > *

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
I think that you are right. Kevin. For me, I would not put anything. I think that the second indicator 2 is enough -:) Thanks again. Joan Wang On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Kevin M Randall wrote: > I think if you use "Contains (expression)" that should be sufficient. > If

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
So better to put two identical headings, and respectively $i Contains (work) and Contains (expression) -:) On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > No. It is possible if we use the same heading to represent a work and its > expression (for a compilation). Is that right? > &

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
No. It is possible if we use the same heading to represent a work and its expression (for a compilation). Is that right? On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > I do think that I am right. It should mean that it contains an expression, > although the heading would not have an e

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
I do think that I am right. It should mean that it contains an expression, although the heading would not have an element for the original language. Sorry about that :) On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > Does that mean it contains both a work and an expression? > > &

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
* ** > > Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978! > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2013 9:21 AM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA &g

Re: [RDA-L] 1st original RDA record - questions

2013-08-02 Thread Joan Wang
sing relationship designators. Anyway, more work is always good :) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Adam L. Schiff wrote: > 700 1_ $i Contains (work): $a Estes, David. $t Anna's story. > should be > 700 12 $i Contains (work): $a Estes,

Re: [RDA-L] Compilation

2013-08-01 Thread Joan Wang
at 10:04 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > The question about 505 content notes reminds me a question about > compilations. According to FRBR, the primary relationships are between > work, expression, and manifestation, and item of Group 1 entities. These > relationships are actually at a gene

[RDA-L] Compilation

2013-08-01 Thread Joan Wang
the same manifestation? I know that Library of Congress Policy puts compilations under Related Works. I am trying to understand that :) Any insights or comments? Thank you very much in advance :) Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC

Re: [RDA-L] Still doing edition statements for large print?

2013-07-31 Thread Joan Wang
resource itself”. As Deborah mentioned, it meets the principle of differentiation. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Watters, Tim (MDE) wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 J. McRee Elrod posted: > > ** ** > > >>“We do

Re: [RDA-L] ] The "A" in RDA

2013-07-30 Thread Joan Wang
lly have an item. The "request" process includes inter-library loan and online access to digital resources. So far, I think that the process for searching and making use of bibliographic records is fulfilled. The above is my (maybe limited) understanding of user tasks defined in FRBR :)

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Content/Media/Carrier types [was: The "A" in RDA]

2013-07-30 Thread Joan Wang
applies to the predominant part of the resource (if there is a predominant part), or b) that apply to the most substantial parts of the resource (including the predominant part, if there is one). Hopefully that my understanding is correct :) Thank you! Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System

Re: [RDA-L] ] The "A" in RDA

2013-07-29 Thread Joan Wang
Let's help our users. This is the reason we discuss issues here and assist with proposals to improve RDA :) Happy Monday! Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM, JSC Chair wrote: > RDA is about describing bibliographic resources and their relat

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

2013-07-26 Thread Joan Wang
e front and > back panels and the spine to which they are joined." > > > Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger > Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing > The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwa

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

2013-07-25 Thread Joan Wang
* Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Mitchell, Michael < michael.mitch...@brazosport.edu> wrote: > Would it make sense to consider the illustrations to be representative of > the content of the work (rather than the expression o

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

2013-07-24 Thread Joan Wang
combine them. So the only difference you will see is no abbreviation. I was also told to record "chiefly illustrations" in 500 notes. For spelling, RDA provides two options: color or colour. That is all I know. I hope that somebody else can give you more information :) Thanks, Joan Wang O

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

2013-07-24 Thread Joan Wang
Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"? Thank you. Joan Wang On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor wrote: > hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging > rules,AACR2. They should be: > > 45 pages : illustrations (colour) > 45 pa

Re: [RDA-L] Recording (large print)

2013-07-12 Thread Joan Wang
There would be many misleading mappings using your criterion. I am not a person who is able to answer the question. But I believe that many people would be happy with taking advantage of the convenience :) Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Re: [RDA-L] Recording (large print)

2013-07-11 Thread Joan Wang
I check the mapping of RDA instruction rules with MARC fields in RDA Toolkit. 3.13 Font size is mapped to $a of 300 fields, $n of 340 fields, and 500 fields. So I assume that we can record "Large print" in either of the three fields depending on cases and needs. Thanks, Joan Wan

Re: [RDA-L] Photocopy of a thesis in RDA?

2013-07-05 Thread Joan Wang
__ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) > {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ > ___} |__ \__ > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Photocopy of a thesis in RDA?

2013-07-03 Thread Joan Wang
How can I understand a photocopy of a thesis? I guess that many theses could be photocopies. Do we still consider theses as manuscripts under RDA? If look at the definition in RDA Toolkit, they are not. But if look at OCLC special cataloging guidelines, they are. Happy fourth! Joan Wang Illinois

Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

2013-07-03 Thread Joan Wang
Sorry, should be for authorized access points (headings). On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > Use the abbreviations in table > B.1<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdaappb&target=rdab-399#rdab-399>for > the names of certain countries and for

Re: [RDA-L] 264 question

2013-07-03 Thread Joan Wang
gt; Behalf Of *Saunders, Mary > *Sent:* 03 July 2013 01:45 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] 264 question > > > >Thanks to all who responded. I have decided to make a single 264 1 > [Charleston, SC?] : $b Author’s name, $c [2013] > > >

Re: [RDA-L] "Translated from" notes and code for original language

2013-07-03 Thread Joan Wang
Sorry. Should be $e of 300 fields :) On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > A similar case is for accompanying materials. I consider it a whole-part > relationship. But they are encoded in $c of 300 fields. I was told that it > is a structured description. So &

Re: [RDA-L] "Translated from" notes and code for original language

2013-07-03 Thread Joan Wang
A similar case is for accompanying materials. I consider it a whole-part relationship. But they are encoded in $c of 300 fields. I was told that it is a structured description. So Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>

Re: [RDA-L] "Translated from" notes and code for original language

2013-07-02 Thread Joan Wang
many things beyond rules and sentences he/she is seeing and capturing. But it is really not something new for cataloging. Is that right :) I am learning from the discussion. Thanks to everyone, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Robert Maxwell

Re: [RDA-L] "Translated from" notes and code for original language

2013-06-28 Thread Joan Wang
Heidrun, I look at MARC to RDA mapping. It shows that the corresponding RDA instruction number is "N/A". So I have to say that I do not know :) Have a great weekend, Joan Wang On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller < wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de>

Re: [RDA-L] "Translated from" notes and code for original language

2013-06-28 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, Heidrun I am not sure if I understand your issue correctly. Does it go relationships between expressions? So we can use structured or unstructured descriptions, or relationship designators in authorized access points. If I am not right, please feel free to correct me. Thanks, Joan Wang On

Re: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing

2013-06-21 Thread Joan Wang
ate. I hope that my understanding is correct. Any correction would be appreciated. Thanks to everyone. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Deborah Fritz wrote: > My thanks to the folks who sent in feedback on how they would handle my > two da

Re: [RDA-L] SOR from copyright statement

2013-06-20 Thread Joan Wang
I agree with Deborah. I would verify the illustrator from other sources, and bracket the statement. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Deborah Fritz wrote: > The data entry instruction for the SOR element is: > 2.4.2.3 "Record statements of responsibility relati

Re: [RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-14 Thread Joan Wang
A tiny question is about the capitalization. Is it upper-case like [Place of publication not identified] and [Publisher not identified], or lower-case? Thanks for your help. Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Paradis Daniel wrote: > According to LC's training material, a date

Re: [RDA-L] 264 All are entity functions required?

2013-06-13 Thread Joan Wang
for Library of Congress. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Julie Moore wrote: > (My apologies for the cross-posting) > > Dear All, > > In trying to move beyond the inexplicable inconsistent "period" issue ... > > Now we have wi

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-11 Thread Joan Wang
I recall my message. I sent it to a wrong email address. Sorry about that. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > I have a question about MARC encoding of multiple languages in a single > expression. RDA instructs us to record language of expression as a separate > el

[RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-11 Thread Joan Wang
, Russian, or encoded in separate fields? Many thanks for your help in advance. Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-09 Thread Joan Wang
Yes. Daniel. You are right. Translations are one of them. Here, types of materials are more from the expression perspecive instead of specific media type. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Paradis Daniel wrote: > ** > > Actually, the LC-PCC PS limits the addit

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-07 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks, Adam RDA 6.27.3 does refer to 6.11 for constructing authorized access point representing an expression. But Library of Congress Policy limits an addition of an expression attribute to four types of materials, which does not include motion pictures. Thanks again, Joan Wang On Thu, Jun 6

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-06 Thread Joan Wang
Herskovitz ; produced by Edward Zwick, Pieter Jan Brugge ; director of photography, Eduardo Serra ; screenplay by Clayton Frohman & Edward Zwick ; directed by Edward Zwick. *A motion picture with some dialogue in English, some dialogue in German, and some dialogue in Russian.* Thanks again, Joan

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-06 Thread Joan Wang
. If following RDA 6.11.1.4, we would encode each of them in separate fields. So we would see, for example, multiple 730 fields (each has $l). Hope somebody else would like to confirm it. Thanks for your time. Joan Wang On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Trina Pundurs < tp

[RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-04 Thread Joan Wang
multiple expressions are not under the big umbrella of RDA 6.11.1.4. Is it under 6.11.1.3? Hope somebody would like to help :-) Thanks for your time. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office

Re: [RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-06-03 Thread Joan Wang
Adam, Yes, you are right. A composer should be a creator for a performed music. I actually thought about all of the sound from the film. But I could not find an appropriate term (maybe use more than one?) in RDA 6.9.1.3. Many thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Adam Schiff wrote

Re: [RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
> 130 0#$aGone with the wind (Motion picture).$hSound recording. I think that for this, should use Performed music in $h? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Joan Wang wrote: > (Forgot to put subject in the earlier email I sent. Sorry about that) > > Hi, All > > I hope that s

[RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
help in advance. Regards, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax

[RDA-L]

2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
wind (Motion picture).$hSound recording. 700 1#$aE., Sheila$q(Escovedo),$d1959- $tDawn, the beginning.$hSound recording. Under RDA, subfield h Sound recording would be changed to Spoken word, is that right? Thanks for your help in advance. Regards, Joan Wang -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for collaborative works

2013-05-28 Thread Joan Wang
Robert, Thanks. That is what I thought. I do not think that it would work in MARC. But it raises a totally different idea (right?). Thanks again, Joan Wang On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Robert Maxwell wrote: > The RDA alternative implies that all the names would be in one field in >

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for collaborative works

2013-05-28 Thread Joan Wang
ement? And Library of Congress policy says Do not apply ??? Thanks, Joan Wang On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Tony Fang wrote: > Joan, > > If it is truly a collaborative work by the three named authors, then, it > will look like this: > > 100 1_ Gumbley, Warren, 1962– $e aut

[RDA-L] authorized access point for collaborative works

2013-05-28 Thread Joan Wang
archaeological sites in New Zealand Resource described: Management of wetland archaeological sites in New Zealand / Warren Gumbley, Dilys Johns, and Garry Law My question is: how it works in MARC encoding? Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks, Jean. I was not aware with that. Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Harden, Jean wrote: > I’m not Kevin, but yes, definitely it is fine to use the same name in > 100 and 700 (or 110 and 710). As Kevin said, the 1xx field has no necessary > relation to any title o

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Joan Wang
help. Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Kevin M Randall wrote: > The 1XX field relates only to the title in the 240 or 245. Fields 730 > and 740 should be used for titles that do not have a personal, family, or > corporate body name as part of the authorized access point. Th

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Joan Wang
For separate works of one person/family/corporate body, I think that we use 730/740 fields. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Harden, Jean wrote: > Recording each separate work’s title is something we do all the time in > music cataloging. In MARC, you use the field

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