Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-11-09 13:47, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El onsdag 9. november 2016 13.36.11 CET Craig Wallace escribió: Is it just for streets? Or can you add photos of footpaths, cyclepaths, railways, rivers etc. Or any other feature you can travel along. Why not have a name with less focus on streets?

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Celine Jacquin
-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:10:53 +0100 > From: Michał Brzozowski > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change > Message-ID: > < >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El onsdag 9. november 2016 13.36.11 CET Craig Wallace escribió: > Is it just for streets? Or can you add photos of footpaths, cyclepaths, > railways, rivers etc. Or any other feature you can travel along. > Why not have a name with less focus on streets? For the same reason OpenStreetMap has footp

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2016-11-08 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. Since then, we not only have collected almost 30 kilometers of coverage, but also received a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Frank Villaro-Dixon
On 16-11-08 19:13:34, Joseph Reeves, wrote 3.9K characters saying: How about just StreetScape? I would argue against this. To me, "OpenStreetView" sounds okay in non-english languages (Spanish, French, German), contrary to "StreetScape" which I imagine would be really strange for me to say t

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Simon Poole
Streetscape is totally fine, if you just want to have the same problems again. Rough step by step guide to finding a workable product name: - don't do it in public - don't use anything descriptive - google for the name - do an exhaustive trademark search (or rather let your fav IP counsel do i

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-09 Thread Michał Brzozowski
How about StreetOpenView? ;) Streetscape sounds fine to me, too. 08.11.2016 16:37 "Martijn van Exel" napisał(a): > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street > level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. > Since then, we not

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 08.11.2016 um 19:51 schrieb Glenn Plas: > .. > View is quite a common word. Imagine apple claiming the rights on > anything that starts with I- : I-crap, I-whatever, I-rail, I-eat (there > are thousands of those). They wouldn't exist either without Apple. Apple is naturally the text book exampl

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Pierre Béland
LibreView ?    Pierre De : Martin Koppenhoefer À : Glenn Plas Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : mardi 8 novembre 2016 15h52 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change sent from a phone > Il giorno 08 nov 2016, alle ore 19:51, Glenn Plas ha > scritto: &

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 08 nov 2016, alle ore 19:51, Glenn Plas ha > scritto: > > in our EU law system you cannot claim ownership over common words like > that. It's not because you're big and bold that you can get away with > bullying. > well, a German telco has successfully claime

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Simon Poole
Sigh Trademarks are not patents, there is no concept similar to prior art (there is in the US some thing which comes quite close, but that is just 1 (one) country). If you are a trademark owner you need to monitor applications that are close to your mark and if the examiners don't throw them

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/11/16 18:54, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > FWIW, I like the "-scape" suffix, e.g. OpenStreetscape: Get's my vote Capital 'S' though OpenStreetScape -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Joseph Reeves
How about just StreetScape? I think the open- prefix is unnecessary unless OpenStreetView is officially part of the OSM project? We should be expecting all good projects to be open by default, so branding as Open may be unnecessary. In addition, projects should be aiming to compete on features and

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: > This is hardly surprising, and not unreasonable (there's no > "Ford Beetle" or "Volkswagen Mini", nor a "BurgerKing > Happy Meal". for example). Though there is Ordnance Survey Street View, which pre-dates Google Street View by several years. (It's soon to be replaced by OS

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
On 08-11-16 19:16, Hakuch wrote: > On 08.11.2016 18:34, Glenn Plas wrote: >> I think it's definitely totally unreasonable by Giegle. > > To be honest, no one would have chosen "View" if there not has been that > other tool, do you? View is quite a common word. Imagine apple claiming the rights on

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Toby Murray
I'm guessing they are claiming trademark rights on the term "Street View" which is not entirely unreasonable. (IANAL, etc) Toby On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Glenn Plas wrote: > Does well-know-bully-company own the word 'view' ? I don't understand > why you consider yielding on this. They c

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hakuch
OpenStreetPic OpenStreetPics --> OSP On 08.11.2016 18:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: > OpenStreets > > OpenVista guess, another big player will complain then ;) > OpenPanorama > 0x2E165BB0.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ talk mailing list talk@op

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hakuch
On 08.11.2016 18:34, Glenn Plas wrote: > I think it's definitely totally unreasonable by Giegle. To be honest, no one would have chosen "View" if there not has been that other tool, do you? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.open

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
Knock yourselves out by not being able to choose: http://www.namemesh.com/domain-name-search/open%20street%20photo?show=1 But I still think it's bullshit to claim this as it's clearly a part of the openstreet-brand if you just put the word 'view' behind it. I think it's definitely totally unreas

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Aun Johnsen
Since all-evil-you-know-who have lawyers that can sue the ass off everything, let us look at what strictly mean the same but sounds completely different, my idea is FSLI, the Free Street Level Images. Aun Johnsen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Milo van der Linden
'Photos for openstreetmap" abbreviated as photosm like with hotosm? Op 8 nov. 2016 6:08 p.m. schreef "Andy Mabbett" : > On 8 November 2016 at 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote:# > > > a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company with a > similarly-named > > product :) to not use the OpenStre

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 November 2016 at 15:34, Martijn van Exel wrote:# > a friendly (for now) request by a well-known company with a similarly-named > product :) to not use the OpenStreetView name. This is hardly surprising, and not unreasonable (there's no "Ford Beetle" or "Volkswagen Mini", nor a "BurgerKing H

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Mike Thompson
Libre Via Picturae (Open Street View in Latin... as best I can tell usingahem... Google translate) Mike On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Guessing that company's name rimes with frugal > > Regards, > Hans > > On Nov 8, 2016 8:35 AM, "Martijn van Exel" wrote: > >> Hi

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Hans De Kryger
Guessing that company's name rimes with frugal Regards, Hans On Nov 8, 2016 8:35 AM, "Martijn van Exel" wrote: > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street > level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. > Since then, we not o

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Glenn Plas
Does well-know-bully-company own the word 'view' ? I don't understand why you consider yielding on this. They can ask all they want right ? Glenn On 08-11-16 16:34, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open > street level imager

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetView name change

2016-11-08 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, A few months ago, we started with OpenStreetView, the free and open street level imagery project made 100% for OSM with apps for Android and iOS. Since then, we not only have collected almost 30 kilometers of coverage, but also received a lot of attention from both you and the press. T

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-25 Thread John McKerrell
On 25 Sep 2009, at 13:58, malenki wrote: You are right (except that I have uploaded ~2k pictures. Meanwhile 376 seem to exist for the counter :) ) I wonder how I cam to "Moderating" loggin in before, since there is no hint how to get there now. After all, I took the URL from the history of th

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-25 Thread malenki
John McKerrell wrote: >On 23 Sep 2009, at 20:16, malenki wrote: > >> John McKerrell wrote: >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: >>> | There was an error saving your changes >>> Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to >>> help me identify it? >> >> Imp

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-24 Thread John McKerrell
On 23 Sep 2009, at 21:27, Richard Bullock wrote: >> >> [still not enough :)] >> >> For moderating: right now I moderated several photos until I cam >> onto a >> visible license plate. This I masked and added the tag licenceplate, >> left the masking area, clicked "mark as safe" and "save" - and

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-24 Thread John McKerrell
On 23 Sep 2009, at 20:16, malenki wrote: John McKerrell wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: | There was an error saving your changes Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to help me identify it? Impossible at the moment, OSV looks like this both in o

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView - documentation?

2009-09-24 Thread John McKerrell
On 24 Sep 2009, at 18:25, malenki wrote: > Jeremy Adams wrote: > >> You'll find most of the documentation on the wiki at >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org. >> >> This mailing list you've posted to is the primary source of >> discussion. >> There are other lists as well for more specific topics (

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-24 Thread John McKerrell
On 24 Sep 2009, at 15:51, malenki wrote: > Richard Bullock wrote: > >> Also, I've mistakenly uploaded an image without geolocation in the >> exif (I haven't pushed it towards moderation yet). Any chance we >> could >> have the option to remove an image? > > My suggestion: be able to delete the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-24 Thread malenki
John McKerrell wrote: > >On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: >> It would be nice to have p...@openstreetmap.org on gmane. >I'm not actually sure what you mean by this, is it something I need >to set up for the pho...@openstreetmap.org mailing list? This is the place where you can subscribe t

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView - documentation?

2009-09-24 Thread malenki
Jeremy Adams wrote: >You'll find most of the documentation on the wiki at >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org. > >This mailing list you've posted to is the primary source of discussion. >There are other lists as well for more specific topics (newbies, >legal, etc) as well as for specific countries. Th

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-24 Thread malenki
Richard Bullock wrote: >Also, I've mistakenly uploaded an image without geolocation in the >exif (I haven't pushed it towards moderation yet). Any chance we could >have the option to remove an image? My suggestion: be able to delete the picture if it is you own or if 2 or three have marked it as

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView - documentation?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeremy Adams
You'll find most of the documentation on the wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org. This mailing list you've posted to is the primary source of discussion. There are other lists as well for more specific topics (newbies, legal, etc) as well as for specific countries. -Jeremy On Wed, Sep 23, 2009

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetView - documentation?

2009-09-23 Thread courtland . yockey
I've signed up at the OpenStreetView site, but it does not appear that there is significant documentation available, nor a method for discussion. Could someone say something to this? Perhaps this is coming in the future - it would be helpful to known this. --openstreetmap login = ceyockey ___

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-23 Thread Richard Bullock
> > [still not enough :)] > > For moderating: right now I moderated several photos until I cam onto a > visible license plate. This I masked and added the tag licenceplate, > left the masking area, clicked "mark as safe" and "save" - and then an > error showed up: > | There was an error saving your

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-23 Thread malenki
John McKerrell wrote: > >On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: > >> | There was an error saving your changes >> >Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to help >me identify it? Impossible at the moment, OSV looks like this both in opera and firefox: http://omploader.or

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-23 Thread John McKerrell
On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: | There was an error saving your changes Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to help me identify it? Besides there seems to be no way (atm) to edit several pictures in a row. MArking some and clicking "mask sections" showe

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-22 Thread malenki
malenki wrote: [still not enough :)] For moderating: right now I moderated several photos until I cam onto a visible license plate. This I masked and added the tag licenceplate, left the masking area, clicked "mark as safe" and "save" - and then an error showed up: | There was an error saving you

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-22 Thread malenki
malenki wrote: [not enough :)] It would be nice to have p...@openstreetmap.org on gmane. For moderating photos: 1) It would be handy to be able to see the pictures in full resolution since its a difference if a car with licence plate is photographed with a 320x240 cam of a mobile phone or with

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-22 Thread malenki
John McKerrell wrote: [a lot about OSV] Questions: Housenumbers would not be a privacy problem I hope? Because of privacy, selecting the relevant pictures and rotating them I anyway review all the pictures before I upload them. I quite often make photographs of the ground when the highways surf

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-22 Thread John McKerrell
On 22 Sep 2009, at 08:55, Claudius wrote: > Am 21.09.2009 23:45, John McKerrell: >>> To try it out, head over to http://openstreetview.org/ >>> >>> You'll need to sign up for an account, verify your email address and >>> then log in. > > The most important question for me: Why don't you use OSM's

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-22 Thread Claudius
Am 21.09.2009 23:45, John McKerrell: >> To try it out, head over to http://openstreetview.org/ >> >> You'll need to sign up for an account, verify your email address and >> then log in. The most important question for me: Why don't you use OSM's own OAuth infrastructure [1]? I don't feel comforta

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-21 Thread John McKerrell
Because I'm convinced it needs a level of moderation that would end up requiring that we host the photos anyway. Also flickr (for instance) costs money above 200 (I think) photos. I would hope that someone (possibly me) would write something to let you suck images in from flickr when the OS

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-21 Thread Ian Dees
This is a great idea, but why not just use Flickr or some similar photo site that offers an API for geotagged photos? The only unique thing we'd need to add is a method of recording the orientation (X degrees from magnetic north, Y degrees inclination, Z degrees field of view) of the photo at a gi

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-21 Thread John McKerrell
So, after talking about my ideas for an OpenStreetView project at SOTM way back in July I've finally got things together enough to launch a site. I announced it on pho...@openstreetmap.org a few days ago to get some initial opininos but I think it's time to get a few more people looking at

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Ciprian Talaba
We, the Romanian OSM team (as Norc is a Romanian based service), are in contact with the people from Norc since the launch of the project. They have given us permission to derive from their panoramas, and also they donated their GPS logs. We are waiting in the next few days to get a new set of trac

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread John McKerrell
On 13 May 2009, at 16:04, Joseph Reeves wrote: > How does the service provided by norc.ro compare with people's > desires? > > http://www.norc.ro/ norc.ro looks similar to Google, which is nice, but I guess the question is what license is the imagery available under? Also could I submit my

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
How does the service provided by norc.ro compare with people's desires? http://www.norc.ro/ Cheers, Joseph 2009/5/13 Ian Dees : > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 AM, John McKerrell wrote: >> >> On 13 May 2009, at 15:00, Rory McCann wrote: >>> >>> StreetView data would be awesome to have, since i

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:25 AM, John McKerrell wrote: > > On 13 May 2009, at 15:00, Rory McCann wrote: > >> >> StreetView data would be awesome to have, since it would massivly >> increase the amount of information we could add. Footpaths, speedlimits, >> number of lanes, etc etc, Theses are thi

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread John McKerrell
On 13 May 2009, at 15:00, Rory McCann wrote: > > StreetView data would be awesome to have, since it would massivly > increase the amount of information we could add. Footpaths, > speedlimits, > number of lanes, etc etc, Theses are things you can't get from aerial > imagery. I imagine that even

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Rory McCann
On 13/05/09 14:47, Ian Dees wrote: > This is different, though, as Google owns the StreetView data. They > license all other geographic data (street maps and aerial/satellite > images). Yes that's what I thought. As far as I know Yahoo licenced map data and bought the 'you can relicence it' option

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Joseph Reeves wrote: > For the same reason that they don't release any of their data? > This is different, though, as Google owns the StreetView data. They license all other geographic data (street maps and aerial/satellite images). There is significant interest

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > Any idea why Google don't do this yet? > > I (and some others in the OSM community) have been working with some Google engineers on this for quite some time (1.5 yrs). There is significant interest in opening the data, but they are having prob

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Reeves
For the same reason that they don't release any of their data? 2009/5/13 Rory McCann : > On 01/05/09 15:05, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >> Google Street View got me thinking that it might be a good idea to explore >> the possibility of an open source street view database, which could be >> linked in w

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-13 Thread Rory McCann
On 01/05/09 15:05, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Google Street View got me thinking that it might be a good idea to explore > the possibility of an open source street view database, which could be > linked in with OSM. Course what would be awesome is if Google released all there timestamped photos an

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread OJ W
Would be nice if we could upload video+GPS to some site for processing into openstreetview (yeah I know it's 2GB/hour) but it saves having to stop and take photos. You could always assume that the camera is a fixed angle from the track/heading. For anyone looking at video cameras for bikes, I jus

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread Colin Marquardt
2009/5/1 John McKerrell : > Quite odd, I was mulling over submitting talks on OpenStreetView to SOTM and > AGI conference today. I just noticed your website and thought I'd see if you > had mentioned it on the OSM mailing list, to find that you had just over an > hour ago. I have the openstreetview

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread John McKerrell
also: http://openviewproject.org/ From: Ian Dees To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:15:42 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Nick Whitelegg > wrote: I have put together an extremely simple facility to allow users to uplo

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread Adam Schreiber
ntervals. Cheers, Adam > From: Ian Dees > To: Nick Whitelegg > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:15:42 AM > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Nick Whitelegg > wrote: >> >> I have put together an

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread Mikel Maron
See also: http://openviewproject.org/ From: Ian Dees To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:15:42 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I have put together an

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > I have put together an extremely simple facility to allow users to upload > panoramas and view their location on a slippy map at > http://www.openstreetview.org.uk/. (Sorry about .uk but .org, .com, .net > appear to be already taken). There's

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-05-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Google Street View got me thinking that it might be a good idea to explore the possibility of an open source street view database, which could be linked in with OSM. The idea would be that people could take panorama photos of streets in their area and upload them, and so potenti