Saturday, September 16, 2000, 08:55, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> I was wondering how I can disable the warning I get every time I
> open an attachment. Yes, I know the warning is a good thing, but I
> do not have time for it (and I know what may infect my system
> anyway).
Hello Christian
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Hello Thomas and everyone else...
TF> It doesn't. That's Steve's point.
Ah. I assumed the wrong convention of "should". My apologies.
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Hallo Christian,
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:55:31 -0500 GMT (16/09/2000, 14:55 +0800 GMT),
Christian Dysthe wrote:
CD> I was wondering how I can disable the warning I get every time I
CD> open an attachment. Yes, I know the warning is a good thing, but I
CD> do not have time for it (and I know
Hallo Ming-Li,
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:31:09 -0700 GMT (14/09/2000, 20:31 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:
>> Some of these messages are HTML, which is shown as an attachment,
>> as I have auto-view disabled. So I routinely right-click on the
>> attachment and delete it. It disappears from the folder v
Hello Christian,
On Friday, September 15, 2000 at 01:47:19 GMT -0500 (which was 11:47 PM
where I live) witnesses say Christian Dysthe typed:
> I do not know how it could be done, but it should be a way to make
> The Bat! not expire mail, or at least prompt you, if the time and date
>
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> n Friday, September 15, 2000, 12:29:09 AM, you wrote:
>
JD>> TB! still doesn't support bold and underline because it's
*plain*
>
> Hey - somebody else can put emphasis in plain text :-). *I*
> understood it just fine.
I agree, but why, oh why, can
Hallo Graham,
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:17:43 +0100 GMT (16/09/2000, 17:17 +0800 GMT),
Graham wrote:
G> I agree, but why, oh why, can't I have the convenience of using
G> Trutype fonts??
I understand you can use TrueType as long as it's fixed width. ;-)
But don't worry too much, in v2 you will be
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Hi Christian,
On 16 September 2000 at 01:47:19 GMT -0500 (which was 07:47 where I
live) Christian Dysthe wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Mail lost in a "time warp".":
CD> I do not know how it could be done, but it should be a way to m
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Hi Graham,
On 16 September 2000 at 10:17:43 GMT +0100 (which was 10:17 where I
live) Graham wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Reasons why html mail shouldn't be used":
>> Hey - somebody else can put emphasis in plain text :-). *I*
>> un
Hello Marck,
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 10:58:42 GMT +0100 (which was 2:58 AM
where I live) witnesses say Marck D. Pearlstone typed:
> You could, folder by folder, go through and "Browse deleted messages"
> to retrieve the missing messages (unless you have also compressed the
> fol
16/09/2000, Marck D. Pearlstone:
> You can use variable pitch fonts by employing a registry hack (ask if
> you want it - I will publish it for you).
I'd like to use smaller fonts (possibly variable pitch ones, I'm used
to arial narrow) for column titles, particularly in the headers list
pane (f
Hi Januk
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 03:37:48 -0700GMT
(which was 16/09/2000, 12:37 +0100GMT for me),
you wrote:
JA> But the only way messages expire is if you purge the folder. Purging
JA> automatically compresses the folder as well. So...
Not always:
The 'purge on exit' option (in the folder-op
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 12:56:32 +0200, Luca wrote:
L> I'd like to use smaller fonts (possibly variable pitch ones, I'm used
L> to arial narrow) for column titles, particularly in the headers list
L> pane (from, subject, etc). Is that possible?
L> I jus
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Hi Luca,
On 16 September 2000 at 12:56:32 GMT +0200 (which was 11:56 where I
live) Luca wrote and made these points on the subject of "Reasons why
html mail shouldn't be used":
L> I'd like to use smaller fonts (possibly variable pitch ones, I
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Hello zefram and everyone else...
zwd> Since I just subscribed to this list, could anyone please tell me
zwd> something about v2. is it currently under development or is it just a
zwd> planned project? or what will be the major changes in that new
zw
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Since I just subscribed to this list, could anyone please tell me
something about v2. is it currently under development or is it just a
planned project? or what will be the major changes in that new
version?
regards
marcus
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Hello
Thursday, September 14, 2000, 10:57:18 PM, you wrote:
MF> Hi!
MF> I've got the following problem with the Bat:
MF> Is there any way to -automatically- open attached ".msg"-files? We
MF> receive lots of "undeliverable"-mails in our support area and it's very
MF> annoying to open the messa
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Hi zefram,
On 16 September 2000 at 12:43:20 GMT +0200 (which was 11:43 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "V2":
zwd> Since I just subscribed to this list, could anyone please tell me
zwd> something abou
I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's
called...well you know what it's called. :-)
Also, a note that the trial version is fully functional would, at least
for me, give a more favorable impression.
The hack
Hallo Östen,
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:22:58 +0200 GMT (16/09/2000, 23:22 +0800 GMT),
Östen Häggmark wrote:
ÖH> I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
ÖH> get things if you pay, and then not delivering them, that's
ÖH> called...well you know what it's called. :-)
Ever
Hello all,
Saturday, September 16, 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Since I just subscribed to this list, could anyone please tell me
> something about v2. is it currently under development or is it just a
> planned project? or what will be the major changes in that new
> version?
some weeks ago
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Hi Östen,
On 16 September 2000 at 17:22:58 GMT +0200 (which was 16:22 where I
live) Östen Häggmark wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Registered user features?":
ÖH> I realize I may appear petty-minded here but...telling people you'll
ÖH
> Oh, I don't think there was ever an intent to deceive here.
No I don't think so either. I overreacted there, I apologize sincerly.
I think that line is just one of those loose ends - some day it will
be tied up, I'm sure.
As earlier said - the one thing TB isn't lacking is features.
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More newbie questions..
1) Can the numbering after the "Re" be turned off? I don't particularly
care for the "Re[2]", "Re[3]", etc A simple "Re" is sufficient IMO.
2) The %Quotes macro puts the ">" character on every non-blank line of the
original text. I prefer to have the ">" char
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:08:10 -0400, BillG wrote:
B> More newbie questions..
Yes. :-)
B> 1) Can the numbering after the "Re" be turned off? I don't particularly
B> care for the "Re[2]", "Re[3]", etc A simple "Re" is sufficient IMO.
In you
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Hello Thomas!
Saturday, September 16, 2000, 6:39:08 AM, you wrote:
> Spare me. :-( Even if I had an email client who could read this, I
> would not want to receive any emails with Flash components.
For all those who support the idea of HTML in e-m
This message: 16/09/2000 19:41 GMT.
Hello BillG,
A reminder of what BillG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on:
16 September 2000 at 14:08:10 GMT -0400
B> 1) Can the numbering after the "Re" be turned off? I don't particularly
B> care for the "Re[2]", "Re[3]", etc A simple "Re" is sufficient
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 1:42 PM or thereabouts, A .
Curtis Martin wrote the following about Reply templates:
B>> 2) The %Quotes macro puts the ">" character on every non-blank
B>> line of the original text. I prefer to have the ">" character on
B>> EVERY line of the included text, not
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Hi BillG,
On 16 September 2000 at 14:08:10 GMT -0400 (which was 19:08 where I
live) BillG wrote and made these points on the subject of "Reply
templates":
B> 1) Can the numbering after the "Re" be turned off? I don't
B> particularly care fo
Chuck Mattsen wrote:
> I think I'm misunderstanding either the question/stated desire here or
> your response.
> If you reply to this message, I think you'll see a paragraph starting
> with
> > I think ...
> followed by a blank line, then another quoted paragraph starting
> with
> > If
Hello all,
Saturday, September 16, 2000, Benoit Darcy wrote:
> Is there any chance to see a next release of The Bat! that handles
> mobile devices like PocketPC or PalmComputing platforms (built-in
> function or conduit application dedicated to mail synchronization for
> example).
Yes :-))
Stef
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 20:45:42 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote:
DH> Can anybody tell me how humans survived so long without all this -
DH> on normal paper with nothing else but a pen or pencil?
E-mail has little to do with survival. It has more to do with
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 20:13:24 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
B>> 2) The %Quotes macro puts the ">" character on every non-blank line
B>> of the original text. I prefer to have the ">" character on EVERY
B>> line of the included text, not just the o
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:58:20 -0500, Chuck Mattsen wrote:
CM> I think the original question was how to get that blank line to show
CM> the quotation marker, as well, rather than remain blank ... your
CM> answer seems to say that it does, but on my end
Since I don't like the way that my fave e-mail
program Eudora is heading, I decided to try The
Bat for a while. It looks very much like the mail
client I might switch to, but after fiddling with
it for a while - and checking the FAQ and the help
files - I still have a couple of questions
Hi All.
I will need to register my copy of TB! soon. I'm concerned that version 2
will come out right after I pay to register version 1.x. Does TB! have any
history of allowing free upgrades? Or will I have to pay more money when
version 2 comes out?
Thanks,
Bill Grant
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Hello Karin,
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 00:29:40 GMT +0200 (which was 3:29 PM
where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed:
> I decided to try The Bat for a while.
Welcome.
> It looks very much like the mail client I might switch to, but after
> fiddling with it for a while - and
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Hi BillG,
On 16 September 2000 at 18:40:06 GMT -0400 (which was 23:40 where I
live) BillG wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Registration and Version 2":
B> I will need to register my copy of TB! soon. I'm concerned that
B> version
Hi Karin Spaink,
On Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 12:29:40 AM you wrote:
> 1. If you move your cursor down in the window in which you are
> editing your mail (e.g. move it down to the next empty line), it
> goes down but stays in the same column (read: horizontal axis) and
> doesn't go to the b
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Hi Karin,
On 16 September 2000 at 00:29:40 GMT +0200 (which was 23:29 where I
live) Karin Spaink wrote and made these points on the subject
of "New user, lotsa questions":
KS> 1. If you move your cursor down in the window in which you are
KS> editin
Thanks for the replies I have been getting so for.
They are helpful and allow me to understand both
the progam an dthe programmer's goals more
clearly, and thus help me to make up my mind.
First of all, new questions:
1. Why does my reply to Januk gets garbled in the
Subject line and suddenly ge
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:29:40AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
> 1. If you move your cursor down in the window in which you are editing your
> mail (e.g. move it down to the next empty line), it goes down but stays in
> the same column (read: horizontal axis) and doesn't go to the beginning of
> th
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:36:13AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
> 1. Why does my reply to Januk gets garbled in the Subject line and suddenly
> gets "Re[2]: etc" instead of your standard "Re: etc"?
TB! loves to count replies for some reason. You can turn that off in the
templates. The exact m
On 17-09-2000 at 01:27, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote:
> Hi Karin,
KS>> 1. If you move your cursor down in the window in which you are
KS>> editing your mail (e.g. move it down to the next empty line), it
KS>> goes down but stays in the same column
> Correct. This is not a bug. This is T
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 5:40 PM or thereabouts, BillG
wrote the following about Registration and Version 2:
B> I will need to register my copy of TB! soon. I'm concerned that
B> version 2 will come out right after I pay to register version
B> 1.x. Does TB! have any history of allowing
Hello friends,
You have to make some things clear to me... When I open virtual folder
(by double-clicking on Mail Ticker) when still receiving mail, why
does Mail Ticker still showing messages (new ones)? How can I (when
Virtual folder is opened) all new incoming mail send directly in
Virtual fol
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:56:33AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
> Ah, but I don't like pitcvhed fomts to begin with. And as I told Jurek: it
> feels as if somebdy is hammering it in. You _will_ have fixed fomts and even
> if you find your way around them. we will still make your message editor act
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:47:59 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
SL> TB! loves to count replies for some reason. You can turn that off in
SL> the templates. The exact macro eludes me at the moment. Again, on
SL> Linux, not Windows.
That's %SINGLERE
SL> See,
On September 16, 2000, at 5:56:33 PM, Karin Spaink Wrote:
> I don't want to have each and every header... I
> just would love to have a general overview. "The
> Bat" folder 3 new, Swans folder 6 new. etc...
That feature is one I truly enjoy with TB!... one quick look at my Folder
Tree, and I can
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:35:12 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
SL> This is free caret mode. There is no way to turn it off and no, it
SL> isn't a bug. I'm sure at least half a dozen people have answered
SL> stating that it isn't a bug, that it cannot be turn
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Hi Karin,
On 17 September 2000 at 02:56:33 GMT +0200 (which was 01:56 where I
live) Karin Spaink wrote and made these points on the subject
of "New user, lotsa questions":
>> in plain text, a paragraph needs a clear line to be clearly at an
>> end
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Hi Vladimir,
On 17 September 2000 at 01:52:23 GMT +0200 (which was 00:52 where I
live) Vladimir Mincev wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Virtual folder":
VM> How can I (when Virtual folder is opened) all new incoming mail
VM> send direc
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:56:33 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
KS> Jurek answered that one. It's old, imported mail. Something got
KS> fucked up in the conversion,. New mail looks ok.
^^
Since this is an international group with people of different
On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 08:15:58PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote:
> This is another thing that I have been indicating to you. In windows,
> the basic behaviour of most editors is really standard. This is why
> TB!'s editor is a real 'culture shocker' for those who are used to using
> different ed
Hello Oliver Sturm,
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:39:46 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Saturday, September 16, 2000, 12:39:46 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Oliver Sturm wrote:
> Hi there,
> I received some messages recently created with a version of Outlook.
> They contained one attachment each
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 18:38:08 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
SL> That is the Microsoft standard, not /A/ standard.
The origin of this behaviour that is present in most Windows based
editors that may have reason to use is pretty much besides the point.
The
A.,
Regarding your message dated: 17 September 2000...
ACM> I personally do like the free caret interface myself. Also, for me,
ACM> TB!'s editor took some time to get accustomed to. It was a period of
ACM> adjustment and giving and taking. The end result has been that the
ACM> shortcomings for
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Hello The Bat! developers,
I'm using The Bat! Version 1.46c
Serial Number 14F4B4B2
under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998
and would like to report a bug
The bug description:
If a signed PGP message contains TAB characters, TB converts these
At 17:47 16-09-2000 -0700, Steve Lamb kindly wrote:
>On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:36:13AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
>> 1. Why does my reply to Januk gets garbled in the Subject line and suddenly
>> gets "Re[2]: etc" instead of your standard "Re: etc"?
>TB! loves to count replies for some
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Hi tracer,
On 16 September 2000 at 00:23:38 GMT +0700 (which was 18:23 where I
live) tracer wrote and made these points on the subject
of "RFC gurus? TB trashes attachments":
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
t>
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Hi Mark,
On 17 September 2000 at 02:58:52 GMT +0100 (which was 02:58 where I
live) Mark R Harding wrote and made these points on the subject
of "New user, lotsa questions":
MRH> In TB!, I find the behaviour of the tab key to be almost random.
MRH> S
Steve,
Regarding your message dated: 17 September 2000...
SL> That is the Microsoft standard, not /A/ standard. There is a big
SL> difference. AFAIK the CUA (a standard) defines what keystrokes do, not editor
SL> behavior. There is a difference.
True enough but given that TB! runs unde
At 18:05 16-09-2000 -0700, Steve Lamb kindly wrote:
>On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:56:33AM +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
>> Ah, but I don't like pitcvhed fomts to begin with. And as I told Jurek: it
>> feels as if somebdy is hammering it in. You _will_
have fixed fomts and even
>> if you find you
Marck,
Regarding your message dated: 17 September 2000...
MDP> TB's TAB is set up for tabular entry. It keys on the spacing in the
MDP> line(s) above - no matter how far above - for tab stops. Like this:
MDP>Col1 Col2 Col3 Col4 Col5
MDP>Tab1
At 20:15 16-09-2000 -0500, A. Curtis Martin kindly wrote:
>SL> Exactly, there isn't a standard, at least not for the more advanced
>SL> features of an editor.
>She hasn't really touched on any advanced features as such.
I have. I use multiple accounts, I am filtering
excessively, I am m
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:58:52 +0100, Mark R Harding wrote:
MRH> What does perplex me still is how exactly the tab key works. My usual
MRH> experience from both Windows and Unix editors is that the tab key
MRH> indents the cursor position (either by
Hello Karin,
Just a quick note ..
As you are probably seeing there is a lot of 'we know everything' and
there is only ONE way to do things .. yada yada yada. Try to let
these notes go by .. just sympathize.
The real thing is to look at The Bat and all of its features. I have
moved to The Bat
At 18:17 16-09-2000 -0700, Nick Andriash kindly wrote:
>On September 16, 2000, at 5:56:33 PM, Karin Spaink Wrote:
[tickeers, and filter reports]
>> I don't want to have each and every header... I
>> just would love to have a general overview. "The
>> Bat" folder 3 new, Swans folder 6 new. et
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:43:34 -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote:
DTS> As you are probably seeing there is a lot of 'we know everything' and
DTS> there is only ONE way to do things .. yada yada yada. Try to let
DTS> these notes go by .. just sympathize.
Hello Karin,
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 04:41:42 GMT +0200 (which was 7:41 PM
where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed:
> 'Cept that I don;'t always read on the spot, and then
> new massages get added to old (unread) messages.
> That's where new and old start getting diffuse.
At 02:31 17-09-2000 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote:
>Karin Spaink wrote:
[tabs and paragraphs]
>KS> I won't repeat myself, but we're talking cultural differences
>KS> here.
>No we're not. These are *technical* issues regarding how the *editor*
>can distinguish the next *line* fro
At 18:38 16-09-2000 -0700, Steve Lamb kindly wrote:
>On Sat, Sep 16, 2000 at 08:15:58PM -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote:
>> She hasn't really touched on any advanced features as such.
>Free caret I considered advanced.
Wish it were. Then I could happily switch it off ;-)
>> For windows,
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Hi David,
On 17 September 2000 at 19:43:34 GMT -0700 (which was 03:43 where I
live) David Tod Sigafoos wrote and made these points on the subject
of "New user, lotsa questions":
DTS> Heck .. one of the things I was complaining about I was told
DTS>
Hello Karin,
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 04:21:01 GMT +0200 (which was 7:21 PM
where I live) witnesses say Karin Spaink typed:
> Is it now. I have been on the net for six years and
> nobody ever told me that they were aggreviated by the
> fact that I use a proportional font to compos
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 04:57:18 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote:
KS> One of the reasons why I want to dump Eudora is becuase of
KS> its stupid, patronizing and utterly ridiculous Moodwatch thingie,
KS> that grades "distrusted" words in e-mail with "chili pep
A.,
Regarding your message dated: 17 September 2000...
ACM> You seem to have ''Smart' Tabs' enabled in the editor preferences. With
ACM> this option enabled, the tabbing will vary depending on the situation.
ACM> The tabbing will always adjust in such a way that the cursor ends up in
ACM> line w
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Hi Karin,
On 17 September 2000 at 04:57:18 GMT +0200 (which was 03:57 where I
live) Karin Spaink wrote and made these points on the subject
of "New user, lotsa questions":
>> No we're not. These are *technical* issues regarding how the
>> *ed
Hello Mark,
On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 04:25:39 GMT +0100 (which was 8:25 PM
where I live) witnesses say Mark R Harding typed:
> To think that all this time other people knew what was going only and
> I only had to ask... sheesh... don't I feel better?!
As I said in one of my posts
At 19:54 16-09-2000 -0700, Januk Aggarwal kindly wrote:
>Hello Karin,
>> 'Cept that I don;'t always read on the spot, and then
>> new massages get added to old (unread) messages.
>> That's where new and old start getting diffuse. I
>> don;t want that. I want my mailer to say that I've
>> re
Hello Thomas,
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:23:42 +0800 GMT your local time, which was
Thursday, September 14, 2000, 10:23:42 PM (GMT-6) my local time,
you wrote:
TF> Hi Jack,
TF> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:21:32 -0500GMT (15/09/2000, 08:21 +0800GMT),
TF> Jack LaRosa wrote:
JL>> I just looked at the pre
On Saturday, September 16, 2000, 7:57:18 PM, you wrote:
KS> >Please do not use language like this here.
KS> In that case, please inform subscribers via the majardomo welcome message.
Most people do not need this spelled out for them, they just don't do
it as a matter of course in a polite grou
Hello Marck,
Saturday, September 16, 2000, 4:27:18 PM, you wrote:
KS>> 4. Although The Bat claims to have "HTML auto view" and while I
KS>> have Options --> HTML auto view on, I get to see all the html-mail
KS>> as plain text, tags included.
MDP> Hang-on ... with tags? You mean like ... ?
Hallo Jack,
On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 22:49:23 -0500 GMT (17/09/2000, 11:49 +0800 GMT),
Jack LaRosa wrote:
JL>>> I just looked at the preferences for my outbox and I have both the
JL>>> "Remove old messages" and "Compress the folder" boxes checked. The
JL>>> "keep nn messages/keep messages for nn days
Hallo Karin,
this is the night shift, and I usually only get to see interesting
threads after they have been dead-horsed. so I guess I'm lucky this
time. :-)
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 04:57:18 +0200 GMT (17/09/2000, 10:57 +0800 GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:
KS> It can -- and should -- distinguish one pa
Hallo Karin,
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 03:58:23 +0200 GMT (17/09/2000, 09:58 +0800 GMT),
Karin Spaink wrote:
KS> >TB! loves to count replies for some reason.
KS> Ouch. I was hoping that it was a glitch in the mailing
KS> list software, but since I read that the mailinglist
KS> was run through
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On this one point, in the PGP-Basics newsgroup, a contributor using
GnuPG (through Linux) found that his signature couldn't be verified
by The Bat, whereas it showed up as "good" using a wide range of
mailers and even through PGPtray.
The problem app
Hallo Graham,
I broke the thread.
On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:41:59 +0100 GMT (17/09/2000, 14:41 +0800 GMT),
Graham wrote:
G> As this did not happen with other mailers, I would suggest that The
G> Bat needs to be brought into line by a fix so that its handling of
G> PGP is the same for all messages.
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On September 16, 2000, at 7:01:08 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone Wrote:
> Steps to reproduce the bug:
> Receive a signed message containing TAB characters and try to get
> the signature to pass verification - it won't.
Confirmed! ;o)
Nick
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