Re: Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:24:30 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 7:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLW> Should it not always, and I mean ALWAYS choose the address that MLW> the message was originally addressed to? You drag the messages out of the receiving account into a common folder, thus th

Mod: Cut mark (was: Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?)

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:24:30 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 7:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLW> -- Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled o

Why do replys not go to the same address the orginals are sent to?

2004-09-02 Thread Michael L. Wilson
Hi, When I receive messages from this list, I use a filter to put the messages in a common folder called TBUDL. I have tried to reply to a few of these messages, yet the default "from" address that is chosen is the top of my account list, sorted alphabetically. Why does The Bat!, 3.0, with no bu

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Tony
Hello Roelof, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:55:16 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Tony, > On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:19:39 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 7:19 +0200, where I > live), you wrote: T>> The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. T>> How can I restore my old settings and messages? T>> I still have *a

Re: IMAP INDEXES

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Allen Day, [AD] wrote: > Have done so, and it does seem to be working a bit more effectively. > Perhaps the "problem" is that RL have provided too much control over > the IMAP configuration, giving (w|m)e the end user(s) the ability to > all-too-easily burry ourselves. Exactly. I think this may w

Anybody know what this is about?

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Hi all - I'm mystified. The first of these two mails turned up in my box, but I surely checked a 'news' box the last time I was at RitLabs, if they have one .. so I replied to the message, and pretty soon, in comes message #2. If anybody can shed some light, I'd appreciate it .. they seem a littl

tbudl archives?

2004-09-02 Thread jwayne
What happened to the Bat archives? The link from Silverstones has http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com/ I just get a page that has the specs of a wimpy machine... jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http:

Re: IMAP INDEXES

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Allen Day, [AD] wrote: > I've been switching back and forth between Thunderbird for some > time now as I've converted all my mail to IMAP and TB has > been extremely problematic. By unchecking the box in the IMAP fine > tune to auto-refresh every ~n minutes, I can at least keep TB

Re: How to Move to the new filter system - For new users.

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: > My repeated suggestions for a single filter type that can be used > for Incoming or Outgoing *or both* (by way of tickmarks) has not > been addressed in the new version. I therefore see no reason to > upgrade. I guess you filter on strings other than addresses beca

Re: Tenure as List Moderator Ends

2004-09-02 Thread Allie Martin
Subscriber2list, [S] wrote: > I second Stuart's comments here ... but was wondering about your > timing to announce this. Why? The time just came. In fact, Marck/Leif and I were in discussions for over a week before I made the announcement. > Well, the F-1 Champ has been virtually crowned, winn

Getting Mail out of TB (Was: Migrated to Outlook 2003)

2004-09-02 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Morgan, * Morgan Pugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 9:28:42 PM: > In all it took me 7 minutes to create all the folders and import > the e-mail into Outlook Express and then Outlook 2003. As I said if > you have a very complex folder setup it will take longer but it isn't >

Re: Refund Claim

2004-09-02 Thread Frank Sproede
On Friday, September 3, 2004 at 1:02:01 AM, Arjan de Groot wrote: > Well, in a purely "technical" sense Ritlabs did indeed keep its > promise. A lot of bugs _were_ fixed (numerous others were > introduced), IMAP _was_ implemented and v2 _does_ have a New > Filtering System (albeit in a beta versio

Re: Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Barry! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:59 PM, you wrote: BJ>>> ve not yet recieved my new key but i'll follow your advice thanks. MB>> From what site did you purchase v. 3.0? Chicago has been late with MB>> some keys. BJ> I got it from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/ BJ> I can wait untill

Re[2]: Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Barry Jones
Hello Mary, Friday, September 3, 2004, 1:52:57 AM, you wrote: MB> Hello Barry! MB> On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:48 PM, you wrote: BJ>> ve not yet recieved my new key but i'll follow your advice thanks. MB> From what site did you purchase v. 3.0? Chicago has been late with MB> some keys.

Re: Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Barry! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:48 PM, you wrote: BJ> ve not yet recieved my new key but i'll follow your advice thanks. From what site did you purchase v. 3.0? Chicago has been late with some keys. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack

Re[2]: Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Barry Jones
Hello Mary, Friday, September 3, 2004, 1:40:58 AM, you wrote: MB> Hello Barry! MB> On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:18 PM, you wrote: BJ>> Is it best to do a fresh install of version 3.. then apply my BJ>> backup MB> RITLabs strongly advises on its website to install right over the MB> previ

Re: Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Barry! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 7:18 PM, you wrote: BJ> Is it best to do a fresh install of version 3.. then apply my BJ> backup RITLabs strongly advises on its website to install right over the previous version. I've done this for every update I've made since v. 1.61, and the new

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:04:39 PM, you wrote: Again, sorry ... I fatfingered something ... RO> Tinker to your liking. ;-) I'd suggest that you RO> replace the new account.* files for the old ones (they RO> contain your filters, account settings, folder RO> settings, quick templates) save t

Upgrading

2004-09-02 Thread Barry Jones
Hello Bat users Is it best to do a fresh install of version 3.. then apply my backup -- Best regards, Barry Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:04:39 PM, you wrote: RO> Tinker to your liking. ;-) You may be sure I will .. lol! RO> I'd suggest that you replace the new account.* files RO> for the old ones (they contain your filters, account RO> settings, folder settings, quick templates) save the RO> new on

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lynn, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:55:32 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 1:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO>> Another option would be to create a new account, close RO>> TB and copy your old account files (including RO>> everything) to the new directory, but that's bound to RO>> return your same corrupt

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 4:47:31 PM, you wrote: RO> Another option would be to create a new account, close RO> TB and copy your old account files (including RO> everything) to the new directory, but that's bound to RO> return your same corruption. That's what I'm afraid of .. and the deinsta

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 4:09:25 PM, you wrote: M> Do you want to keep your message base on the M> "different drive"? I'm M> going to assume that yes. And I am going to assume it M> is in: Actually, my current message base is on a 'd' partition, but when I deinstalled, I shifted all the mai

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lynn, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:36:29 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 1:36 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L> Yes, that's what I did. It was very inconsistent; it L> recovered some of them, but not others. That's because the messagebases that didn't import very well were corrupted. L> I'll keep the old

Re[2]: Virtual folders and known filters

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:43:48 PM, you wrote: >> However, in messing around I created a virtual inbox >> folder which I can't now get rid of; it says there are >> parked messages in it, which there are not, that I can >> find, but I can't delete it. M> Can't you rename it? And/or change th

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU, On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 01:11:01 +0200GMT (3-9-2004, 1:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> Select one of your folders >> Tools -> Import messages -> From TB message base -> Browse to your >> old folder corresponding with your current one, select the >> messages.tbb file and you're

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:40:19 PM, you wrote: RO> Tools -> Import messages -> From TB message base ->> Browse to your RO> old folder corresponding with your current one, select RO> the messages.tbb file and you're importing. Do this RO> for all of your folders Yes, that's what I did. It

Re: Refund Claim

2004-09-02 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 14:58:03 +0100, Morgan Pugh wrote: > As for what Ritlabs said they would do feature wise in TB! it > depends if it was a true contract or just features they are > planning on adding/fixing. Well, in a purely "technical" sense Ritlabs did indeed keep its promise. A lot of bugs _

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello MAU, >> Select one of your folders >> Tools -> Import messages -> From TB message base -> Browse to your >> old folder corresponding with your current one, select the >> messages.tbb file and you're importing. >> Do this for all of your folders > > That works, but what about templates

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Roelof, > Select one of your folders > Tools -> Import messages -> From TB message base -> Browse to your > old folder corresponding with your current one, select the > messages.tbb file and you're importing. > Do this for all of your folders That works, but what about templates, addr

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Lynn, > However, do you know how I can recover my message base on > a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on > a different drive; Do you want to keep your message base on the "different drive"? I'm going to assume that yes. And I am going to assume it is in: E:\TB\Mai

Re: Version3 ?!

2004-09-02 Thread Robin Anson
On Thu 2 September 2004, 22:14:31 +1000, Thorvald Neumann wrote: > Did you try v2.12.03? No. As far as I know there was no official release between v2.12 and the new v3, and I have avoided being a beta tester. -- Robin Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

Re: Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Doug, > I wish that the search mechanism was more user friendly. I have just now clicked on Tools/Search to open the Search Tool. I copied and pasted "I wish that the search mechanism was more user friendly" from your message and pasted it in the 'Search for'. Under 'Scope' I selected '

Re: Virtual folders and known filters

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Lynn, > However, in messing around I created a virtual inbox > folder which I can't now get rid of; it says there are > parked messages in it, which there are not, that I can > find, but I can't delete it. Can't you rename it? And/or change the folder(s) it is watching? -- Best regards,

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Lynn, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 15:23:01 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 0:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: L> However, do you know how I can recover my message base on L> a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on L> a different drive; I didn't use the backup/recover option L> because ther

Is there any way to search for a phrase in TheBat!

2004-09-02 Thread Doug Weller
Hello, I wish that the search mechanism was more user friendly. There probably is an easy way to do this, but the UI should be more helpful And the helpfile! Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site:

Re: What do I do with this MSI file?

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 19:08:37 +0200, @ @ when Mica Mijatovic wrote: > ***^\ ."_)~~ > ~( __ _"o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 20:43:42 +0700, >@ @ when Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> But Lawrence sai

Jumpy Mail Ticker

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello 9Val! It was truly comforting to me to read your response to Miguel on tbudl in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , where you said, among a lot of other great things: 9> ... As you probably know, in most cases every evening I make a 9> daily build for internal testing ... So, if building and testing

Re[2]: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:49:52 PM, you wrote: M> I have done this a couple of times in the past and I M> had no problem. I've done this too, and it works fine. However, do you know how I can recover my message base on a new installation? I have the old folder files stashed on a different

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello 9Val, Thanks for your reply that I assume (I am pretty sure) it was intended to be PM. I will reply off-list. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' info

Re: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Alexander, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 12:54:21 PM, you wrote: >> TB has VFs and, from what I have heard, with more functionality or >> possibilities than Outlook. Alexander> The so called "search folders" in Outlook 2003 Alexander> look good at first, but Alexander> they are, as with e

Re: Change of heart

2004-09-02 Thread Doug Weller
Hi Morgan, Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 2:54:43 PM, you wrote: Morgan> Well I just installed every e-mail I could find and have spent the Morgan> past 5 hours testing them all out. I have not found one that is as Morgan> good as TB! What's inferior about Becky? [SNIP] Doug -- Doug W

freezing bug carryover

2004-09-02 Thread Quin Selman
Hello tbudl, First thing after receiving my new v.3 registration, TB! froze. I had seen that many times with 2.12, but it's disheartening to see that it's been carried over to v.3. (Yes, I realize that v.3 is really just another v.2 beta, arbitrarily chosen to be knighted "v.3." And whi

Re: Tried 3.0 - Now back on 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread John Phillips
Hi Lawrence, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 07:19:40 [GMT-0500] (which was 22:19:40 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > I waited and waited while TB3.0 tried to connect to my mailserver. > Nothing happened. TB3.0 appeared to be stuck. I killed it > (because you can't exit TB while accessing mailser

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:07 PM, you wrote: MAU>> I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make MAU>> comments about smileys ;-) ASK> I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their ASK> relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tony, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:19:39 -0700GMT (3-9-2004, 7:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T> The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. T> How can I restore my old settings and messages? T> I still have *all* files but never made a backup with the option found T> in TB! That's why

Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Anne, M>> Glad to hear you got it working. And don't worry about the glyphs, M>> they're ugly ;-) > > I agree Miguel... maybe the newer ones Maxim promised us for > later will be better? I hope you and everyone saw my ;-). It's true that I don't like them but, being a matter of taste, I wou

Re: Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Tony, > The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. > How can I restore my old settings and messages? > I still have *all* files but never made a backup with the option found > in TB! > > Any help would be most welcome! No big problem, I think. I am assuming that you have your old f

Re: MORE version questions

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo rich, On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:56:03 -0400GMT (1-9-2004, 17:56 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RG> 1) Anyone care to comment on if they think there is compelling reason RG> to upgrade from the version of TB! I am still using to either of the 2 RG> available free 2.x upgrades? I think the imp

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello A.Translator! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 2:19 PM, you wrote: MB>> I've been using v. 3.0 for almost 3 hours now, and so far, I'm MB>> extremely pleased. AT> Could you tell me why? I am not trying to be ironic, just would AT> like to know why I should upgrade. Sorry to be late answer

Re: Disappearing messages!

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Thoene
On Thursday, September 2, 2004 @ 12:51:35 PM [-0700], Zeynel A. Öztürk wrote: > Stupid question maybe, but do you possibly have any "read messages" > filter that interfering with TBUDL messages? Actually, an excellent question and it's the correct one! I have no idea how it got there but I in fac

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello 9Val, 02-Sep-2004 22:27, you wrote: > It is hard to communicate in this case. Maxim explained official position H, where is that information to be found? > and there is nothing to add and it is not situation there unofficial > positions should be expressed I think most of us would a

Re[2]: Version3 ?!/Foxmail

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:44:15 AM, you wrote: MM> "Deaf as a post" is a good term. When they say "deaf MM> as a cannon", it sounds... controversially. Or contradictory? MM> What is DH? ... I ask it because of upgrade. (-: Sorry .. Dear Husband :-) He is a keeper, though I have to shout

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo A.Translator, On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 21:19:24 +0200GMT (2-9-2004, 21:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> I've been using v. 3.0 for almost 3 hours now, and so far, I'm >> extremely pleased. AT> Could you tell me why? AT> I am not trying to be ironic, just would like to know why I should upg

Re: BUG: TB 2.12.03: CC hanging, not releasing dialup connection

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 2. Sep 2004 at 19:58:19 +0200 I wrote: > *update* screenshot converted to 2 colors because of file size. let me see you stripped.. :/ -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc ICQ#152282665 Random software tip: [***] jEdit, for software development (http

Re: Indexing messages

2004-09-02 Thread Zonnet
ON Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:38:13 PM, you wrote: >> It doesn't make an index of the content of the e-mail only of the headers. R> This is more what I was looking for. I thought so but try it first. TB! is not that slow :) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Thu, 2. Sep 2004 at 15:25:29 +0200 Peter Fjelsten wrote: DG>> I don't know what Deniss's problem with the CC is, but for me, if I DG>> abort/delete all tasks in the CC, I am unable to close TB as it says DG>> tasks are still active. Clicking Abort on the "can't close" dialog DG>>

[thebat] Re: v3.0 b1

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 20:46:13 -0700 Dennis W. Greer wrote: >>> The funny thing is Outlook is now a better client than TB!. > Top posting good. Bottom posting annoying! Found a nice tool for my Outlook at work: Quotefix. A must-have for Outlook (and OE). -- shinE! GnuPG/PGP key:

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread 9Val
Hello MAU, M> - I didn't like the way and rush Ritlabs threw the new release on us. Me too :) M> - I didn't like the lack of communication. It is hard to communicate in this case. Maxim explained official position and there is nothing to add and it is not situation there unofficial

Recovering from a crash....

2004-09-02 Thread Tony
Hello tbudl, Last week I my PC failed to boot and had to buy new hardware. I use Ghost to make all my backups and it usally works fine. But not this time due to the diffrent hardware windows needed a complete reinstall. The problem is that I need to reinstall TB! also. How can I restore my old se

Re[2]: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Lynn
Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:01:58 AM, you wrote: JH> you know I really pity the programmers, JH> because I think they're doing a great job, and JH> they get kicked in their butts just as much as JH> us users. Yes, the programmers don't make policy :-( I consulted my geeky son-in-law, who sh

Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros

2004-09-02 Thread Anne
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:00:13 AM, MAU wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M> Glad to hear you got it working. And don't worry about the glyphs, M> they're ugly ;-) I agree Miguel... maybe the newer ones Maxim promised us for later will be better? -- Cheers, Anne Registered Linux

Re: The msi installer is giving me a problem under Xandros

2004-09-02 Thread Anne
On Thursday, September 2, 2004, 1:10:43 PM, Mica wrote in message: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M> Do you mean transparent edges around the (individual) icon itself, or of M> the entire toolbar? Around the edge of whole toolbar Mica - about 1mm wide I'd say. Although with the default glyphs (the big XP

BUG: TB 2.12.03: CC hanging, not releasing dialup connection

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, Just returning to the computer I had to see that TB! hung the connection center, leaving the dialup connection open (which I've manually hang up before the screenshot). TB! is still thinking that the connection is open (it says "Connected" in the Connection tab), though it says "FETC

Re: Disappearing messages!

2004-09-02 Thread Gabor Kovacs P.
I bet you use IMAP ! Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: Version 3, POP3 and the number of messages sitting on the server..

2004-09-02 Thread Martyn Drake
Well, there is definately a problem with the way The Bat! deals with the number of messages as I've just set-up another account which has a fair number of messages on the server and it's just sitting there doing nothing. Whether this occurs only for new account set-ups or whether this will happen

Disappearing messages!

2004-09-02 Thread Matt Thoene
Hi, I am running the latest (3.0) and have something very strange happening. I'm not sure how to explain it other than giving an example here... As an example, I have 5 unread messages waiting to be read in my "Bat" folder (automatically filtered from my inbox). I click on the first unread messag

Re[2]: Alternative emailers

2004-09-02 Thread joeo
Hi Mica, >> Do any of the above (excluding Pocomail) have templates? > Foxmail (at least v4.1) has, both for plain text and HTML messages (for > HTML it [mis]uses IE "engine" [while I actually suspect it uses just one > dll coming with IE, which "renders" this format, so that practically you > wo

Version 3, POP3 and the number of messages sitting on the server..

2004-09-02 Thread Martyn Drake
Have just purchased version 3 (probably against my better judgement, but one can only hope things get better - right? ). I decided on a completely clean set-up and once again encountered the problem of connection problems (see my previous posting to TBUDL about this) via POP3 when I set-up my seco

Migrated to Outlook 2003

2004-09-02 Thread Morgan Pugh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Well last night I decided I would install the copy of Outlook 2003 I got with my PocketPC. I'm not really sure why I decided to I just did. After a fight with several programs I found a [free and very easy] way to import my mail from The Bat

TB v3.0 vs. ver 2

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Anne Lynskey
Hi everybody. I'm certainly not trying to be a smartie, but can someone point out to me the advantages or differences of upgrading to the version 3? If I am missing something obvious like visual effects, it is because I am visually impaired and use a screen reader with speech synthesis output.

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread A.Translator
Op Thu, 2 Sep 2004 13:17:20 -0500 schreef Mary Bull: > I've been using v. 3.0 for almost 3 hours now, and so far, I'm > extremely pleased. Could you tell me why? I am not trying to be ironic, just would like to know why I should upgrade. -- [using The Bat! 2.12.00 on Win XP Pro] __

Re[2]: To Allie

2004-09-02 Thread alists
Hello Allie, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 3:53:28 AM, you wrote: AM> Joseph N., [JN] wrote: >> I missed your initial post, Allie. I'm sorry to see you go. >> Thanks much for being one of the Pillars of Batdom. AM> Thanks Joe and thanks to all who expressed similarly kind words of AM> appreciat

Re: Version3 ?!/Foxmail

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Wed, 1 Sep 2004, at 14:04:16 -0700, @ @ when Lynn wrote: > OK ... write that one off :-) Done. . > lol! I hadn't thought of it as a relative, exactly, but > you may be right :-) After all, my DH is

Re: What do I do with this MSI file?

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 20:43:42 +0700, @ @ when Thomas Fernandez wrote: > But Lawrence said: >>> What am I supposed to do with this 15,341 byte file, >>> "thebat_professional.msi"? > Now, that's a reasonabl

Re: Alternative emailers

2004-09-02 Thread Mica Mijatovic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Thu, 2 Sep 2004, at 10:46:57 -0400, @ @ when joeo wrote: >>> mahogany >>> Thunderbird >>> Becky >>> Pocomail >>> Bloomba >>> Foxmail > Do any of the above (excluding Pocomail) have templates? Foxmail (a

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:23 PM, you wrote: M> In Spain we say: "A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey". I like that. MB>> It's marketing. The company has to live, financially. I'm happy to MB>> support them, and so far they have given very fine support to me. M> As I

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, > It was spot on as far as I can see. Thanks Stuart, I owe you a beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silver

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Jurgen, > you know I really pity the programmers, because I think they're doing a > great job, and they get kicked in their butts just as much as us users. Fully agree. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.12.00

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > And I do agree with you that v. 3.0 is a beta (to quote Shakespeare, > "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"--or not, as the case > may be. ). In Spain we say: "A monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey". > It's marketing. The company has to live, financially. I'm happ

Re[2]: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Jürgen, JH> you know I really pity the programmers, because I think JH> they're doing a great job, and they get kicked in their butts just JH> as much as us users. Isn't that the truth! And IT people in larger organizations, too...the computer guy (person;) is /always/ in trouble. Expectations

Re: Alternative emailers (was: [thebat] Re: v3.0 b1)

2004-09-02 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Pegasus Mail is another fine email client. Freeware too! -- Best regards, Costas Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Jurgen! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 1:01 PM, you wrote: MB>> I do hope that in the future those making the decisions will find ways MB>> to keep the beta-testers (to whom I myself am forever grateful) better MB>> informed and happier. JH> you know I really pity the programmers, becaus

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MAU, 02-Sep-2004 19:21, you wrote: > I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about > smileys ;-) I heard that characters like ":" and "-" and ")" (and their relatives) actually do like the freedom of imagination they leave on the user side, rather than being press

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello MAU, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 11:24:02 AM, you wrote: M> I don't know if my contribution to beta testing the NFS was good, bad, M> valuable or not. It certainly took quite a bit of my time, although I M> enjoyed it. But if RITLabs wants to count on me... new Beta cycle. It was spot on

RE:The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Jurgen Haug
Hello Mary, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 7:43:23 PM, you wrote: > I appreciate the thoughtful comments from you and from Cory. I really > don't know much about running a business--I've always been either an > employee or a customer or both. :) > I do hope that in the future those making the dec

Re: new msg under TB! or TB! on top of new msg

2004-09-02 Thread dAniel hAhler
Hello TBUDL, on Wed, 1. Sep 2004 at 19:36:44 -0400 Jan Rifkinson wrote: > I must have missed a setting somewhere but this is a PITA. How do I > change it? TIA Probably a 3.0.0 bug - but have never heard about it. Are you using mouse x-hover or sth the like that changes focus on windows? -- s

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Neal! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:27 PM, you wrote: NL> There was a suggestion made by Cory: NL> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NL> that may be worth considering for RitLabs. This is the arrangement I NL> have with Sparx http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/ for there excellent NL> Enterprise Archi

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mary, on Thursday, 2. September 2004, at 11:52:07 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding "The Bat! v. 3.0": > Thanks for your nice reply. Could you explain what "eToken" is? Should > I disable it? If so, how? eToken or Aladin is a hardware solution for encrypting in this case message databases. A

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MAU! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 12:21 PM, you wrote: MB>> Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? M> I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about M> smileys ;-) Not needed. I understand and respect the point of view of those who wish they'd never be

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Neal Laugman
Hi Mary and tbudl, MB> I have just now bought, downloaded, and installed The Bat! v. 3.0. MB> Among the first 20 messages that I received with it, I found my MB> RITLabs "thank-you" letter, with the registration key. I received my registration in about 20 minutes. MB> Everything went with great

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread MAU
Hello Mary, > Let me offer you and Miguel both a :batbeer: ? > You can view it at > http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php > since I have no doubt that both of you are in PTV Mode. :) I appreciate the beer, but please don't force me to make comments about smileys ;-) -- Best regards, Migu

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Nick! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 11:57 AM, you wrote: ND> I wish that I could adopt Mary's positive approach (and I suspect ND> she's a much happier person than for it!), but I'm suffering a mild ND> form of cumulative disappointment with TB! Nothing terminal I suppose, ND> but sad al

Re: Bayesit and IMAP

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Sean, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:19:58 AM, you wrote: SH> Is the new version of Bayesit (bundled with TB3.0) supposed to work SH> with IMAP, or is it POP only? It *SHOULDN'T* matter. But, as with all things, YMMV. -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PRO

Re[2]: Will BayesIt 0.6.0 work with TheBat! 2.12.00?

2004-09-02 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello Andre, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 10:08:58 AM, you wrote: AW> Hello Dan, AW> On 2 Sep 2004 at 18:35:40 -0400 GMT [00:35 CEST] you wrote: DG>> BayesIt's history.txt says: DG>> Is anyone successfully using BayesIt 0.6.0 with TheBat! 2.12.00? AW> Yes. FWIW, I see on the beta list that 0.

Re: Tried 3.0 - Now back on 2.12

2004-09-02 Thread Prezes
Hello, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 2:19:40 PM, you wrote: LJ> I waited and waited while TB3.0 tried to connect to my LJ> mailserver. Nothing happened. TB3.0 appeared to be stuck. I LJ> killed it (because you can't exit TB while accessing mailserver) LJ> and tried again. Same thing. TB3.0 han

Re: TB v3.0 is still a Beta whether RL likes it or not

2004-09-02 Thread Nick Dutton
Hello Miguel, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 5:24:02 PM, you wrote: M> One thing is finding a bug here and there... They could start with the installer! In a moment of weakness, during a lull in my afternoon, I was going to have a peek at v3. I backed everything up, God knows there have been enou

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Thomas! On Thursday, September 02, 2004, 11:48 AM, you wrote: TM> This version will be in the future the former SecureBat!! Version. You TM> are using eToken. Thanks for your nice reply. Could you explain what "eToken" is? Should I disable it? If so, how? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3

Re: The Bat! v. 3.0

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Mary, on Thursday, 2. September 2004, at 11:32:41 [GMT -0500] you wrote regarding "The Bat! v. 3.0": > I have just now bought, downloaded, and installed The Bat! v. 3.0. > Among the first 20 messages that I received with it, I found my > RITLabs "thank-you" letter, with the registration key

Welcome, although belated

2004-09-02 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! I want to give you a belated but warm welcome as a Moderator on the TB! lists. As I wrote to Allie, though not in these exact words, everything going on yesterday really had my head spinning! I promise to do my best to behave. Note that I even resist putting a smile emoticon here.

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