Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-15 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Januk posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: J> Go into the shortcut Properties and add /NOLOGO to the end of the J> command line. TB loads a little quicker, and it seems to have stopped J> the freezes on my computer. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Althou

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-15 Thread tracer
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 20:10:24 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 15, 2000, 11:10:24 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Januk Aggarwal wrote: > Hi Simon, > On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 21:15:52 GMT + (which was 1:15 PM > where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] t

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-14 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hi Simon, On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 21:15:52 GMT + (which was 1:15 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > How-do-you-do, > I have noticed that TB! very occasionally seems to freeze with Windows when > I launch it just as I make a connection to the Net. It is always just as TB!

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-12 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 8:33:05 PM, tracer wrote in response to my asking: >> Can Atguard and ZoneAlarm run concurrently? t> Douglas, the answer is YES, BUT And to avoid reviving a dead t> horse...ask me off line!! t> tracer A dead horse carries no

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:27:26 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, March 12, 2000, 4:27:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > Can Atguard and ZoneAlarm run concurrently? > Douglas Douglas, the answer is YES, BUT And to avoid reviving a dead horse.

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:55:58 + GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 10:55:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: MDP>> Please take this interestin

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 07:17:31 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 8:17:31 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > It didn't go far. There are still url's around for it - I'll see if I > can find one for you tonight. I did post the link

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:44:38 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:44:38 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems > while constantly disabled - no one has run that d

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Justin D. Paine
Guys, I don't want to come across as whining, but I'm having a hard time determining how this thread is in any way, shape, or form related to TheBat! Isn't this something that would be better discussed off topic? Personally, I signed up for this mailing list to discuss the bat. Not you guys cust

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:18:03 + GMT your local time, which was Saturday, March 11, 2000, 4:18:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: >some of my customers do actually phone me back ;-) Normally to tell you it still doesnt work (g). I rarely get a guy calling me he is ha

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Dennis & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 12:14:36 PM, Dennis wrote in response what he thought was my saying something that Simon said: DWG> Hello Douglas, DWG> Thursday, March 09, 2000, you wrote: S>>> I use other stuff now. There is a choice: Lockdown2000, Signal9's

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Steve Lamb
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 03:39:56PM +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: > Please take this interesting but now wy off-topic and > getting-very-lengthy discussion off list. The horse died a while back > (from the TB perspective). What, a discussion that I was never involved in g

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:53:24 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 20:53 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH> I didn't install it to have it constantly disabled. I installed it for DH> those rare times that I need to visit a questionable website. (Some DH> websites do things other than what you

Re[3]: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread István Szendrő
Hello Douglas, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 2:17:31 PM, you wrote: IS>> I agree with tracer that a firewall should not be started/stopped IS>> continuously. DH> I didn't catch that. Reason(s)? Windows leaks. The more applications you start the more times, the sooner you are forced to reboot. IS>

Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: MDP> Please take this interesting but now wy off-topic and MDP> getting-very-lengthy discussion off list. The horse died a while back MDP> (from the TB perspective). I'm afraid the '

DEAD HORSE (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Simon and Tracer, On 10 March 2000 at 21:18:03 GMT + (which was 21:18 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: t>> I think my number of systems is a bit larger... S> Well I was actually referring to my home/office Network actually, S> not my customer base. [snip]

Re: "No canvas handle"Re[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Woofie & all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:26:00 AM, Woofie wrote in response to my saying: DH The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... W> I have got that prob with other software, such as Homesite 4.5, when I W> was running the latest Eudora Pro

Re[2]: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello István & all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 5:35:04 AM, István wrote in response to the AtGuard issue: IS> I have tested a number of firewalls (Conseal, ZoneAlarm among them) IS> and AtGuard beats them all. IS> It is certainly not for the average user but the control it

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas & all fellow TBUDL members, Saturday, March 11, 2000, 3:10:31 AM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH>> The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems DH>> while constantly disabled - no one has run that down for me. TF> But it really beats me why you

Re: OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread István Szendrő
Chiming in a bit late in the thread, but nevertheless: I have tested a number of firewalls (Conseal, ZoneAlarm among them) and AtGuard beats them all. It is certainly not for the average user but the control it gives over what to block and what to pass is next to perfect. Initially I tried star

"No canvas handle"Re[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Woofie
Hello Douglas, Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:43:02 AM, you wrote: DH> Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, DH> Thursday, March 09, 2000, 3:50:41 PM, Simon wrote in response to my saying: DH>>> The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... Folks, I have got that prob with other s

OT: AtGuard (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-11 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Douglas, On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:44:38 -0600 GMT (11.03.2000, 16:44 +0800 GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH> The misunderstanding was related to whether @tGuard can cause problems DH> while constantly disabled - no one has run that down for me. While I don't know AtGuard, I have been following

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-11 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 6:39:25 PM, tracer wrote in response to my saying: >> Tracer kindly and unselfishly helped me retrieve a good part of my >> email out of Calypso. Also, since the fools at Calypso blamed my >> windows and insisted that I install ea

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Justin D. Paine
Hello Nick, Well, I don't wanna get on an off-topic discussion.. other than to say, I admin well over 200 boxes, all running win2k, office2K, and I.E. 5.0 and simply don't encounter these problems.. Perhaps it is other software that is interactingbadly.. with I.E? Best regards, Justin D. Pa

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:14:13 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 10:14:13 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > Tracer kindly and unselfishly helped me retrieve a good part of my > email out of Calypso. Also, since the fools at Calyps

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, tracer posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: t> I think my number of systems is a bit larger... Well I was actually referring to my home/office Network actually, not my customer base. t> I see thousands per year... un-don extended codpiece. t> In additi

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:50:19 + GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 7:50:19 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > Tracer, tracer, tracer! What ARE you talking about? > First, not one IE5 upgrade that I have installed has ever knackered

Re: (Now a bit OT) Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Allie Martin, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:34:25 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 10:34:25 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:50:19 +, Simon wrote: > ** snip ** >> I have to say that the problem occurs MORE frequently with

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Nick Andriash
On Friday, March 10, 2000, 10:24:16 AM, Simon wrote: NA>> use SFC to go DLL by DLL and restore the original versions. > I take it you are aware of the 'glitch' in System File Checker on Win9x > systems? > http://www.bigfix.com/website/maintech.html#SFC has more info > (problem affects more PC

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Nick Andriash posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: NA> use SFC to go DLL by DLL and restore the original versions. I take it you are aware of the 'glitch' in System File Checker on Win9x systems? http://www.bigfix.com/website/maintech.html#SFC has more inf

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Dennis W. Greer posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DWG> I use ZoneAlarm. It is good. The only thing I don't like about it DWG> is that it does not keep an log of what it has done. I found that a bind also. Steve Gibson's site gives mention of a p

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Nick Andriash
On Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:59:46 AM, Simon wrote: > If you think what I say stinks or has offended you, you can always email me > @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] anytime. V Not at all Simon. NA>> Opera and haven't touched IE in 6 months. > The last time I tried Opera it was rather a pain. It was a while

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Dennis W. Greer
Hello Douglas, Thursday, March 09, 2000, you wrote: S>> I use other stuff now. There is a choice: Lockdown2000, Signal9's S>> PC Firewall, and ZoneAlarm. ZoneAlarm is free from I use ZoneAlarm. It is good. The only thing I don't like about it is that it does not keep an log of what it

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Now before I start. I'm not in any way trying to cause an argument, or be antagonistic, or upset anyone :) <- happy to be a TBUDL subscriber. I've emailed tracer off list just to make certain there is no misunderstanding. If you think what I say stinks or has offended you, you ca

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Allie Martin, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:18:08 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 7:18:08 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie Martin wrote: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:40:21 +0700, tracer wrote: >> you should never upgrade ie's in windows. > Hmmm. I've never ha

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Justin D. Paine, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 03:23:23 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 6:23:23 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Justin D. Paine wrote: > Hello tracer, > You are advising someone to not upgrade? You would prefer to have all > sorts of security problems, bugs

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Allie Martin posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: AM> ... Oh, I forgot to answer these parts. On comparing the contents AM> ... AM> [-] Fixed potential vulnerability of 'X-Bat-Files:'. I checked this out earlier and it is sure enough fixed. Tried ever

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Nick Andriash
On Friday, March 10, 2000, 3:23:23 AM, Justin D. Paine wrote: > Hello tracer, > You are advising someone to not upgrade? You would prefer to have all > sorts of security problems, bugs, etc? I have used win95, win98, nt4, > win2k, and have NEVER had the I.E. update corrupt my system.. Justin, y

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:52:52 AM, Allie & Thomas wrote in response to my saying: >> On that score, since I'm still using TB! 1.39 and v 1.41 just came >> out, what's the download url for that, and can I download just the .exe >> file or are there .dlls that ne

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Allie Martin
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:14:13 -0600, Douglas Hinds wrote: ** snip ** > On that score, since I'm still using TB! 1.39 and v 1.41 just came > out, what's the download url for that, and can I download just the .exe > file or are there .dlls that need changing also, and more importantly, > is this up

(Now a bit OT) Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Allie Martin
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:50:19 +, Simon wrote: ** snip ** > I have to say that the problem occurs MORE frequently with people that have > it installed but disabled at startup. I found that the problem was less > severe when @Guard was run at startup and left running all the time. The > chances

Re[4]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 6:50:19 AM, Simon wrote in response to: S> And as for yer man Douglas's probs. 1) I'm afraid I was not party S> to his setup as you seem to be. I came to TB! in Sept. of last year as a Calypso refugee, which blew up after a simple

Re[3]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Tracer, tracer, tracer! What ARE you talking about? First, not one IE5 upgrade that I have installed has ever knackered any of my Windows installations - any of the 5 PCs on my LAN. Frankly, not upgrading to fix bugs is not a consideration at all. Bug updates, and security holes n

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Allie Martin
On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 16:40:21 +0700, tracer wrote: > you should never upgrade ie's in windows. Hmmm. I've never had or seen a problem. > if you get a corrupted system you cannot uninstall the thing and on > installing from DOS out of windows you are guaranteed sure to get > registry corr

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Justin D. Paine
Hello tracer, You are advising someone to not upgrade? You would prefer to have all sorts of security problems, bugs, etc? I have used win95, win98, nt4, win2k, and have NEVER had the I.E. update corrupt my system.. Best regards, Justin D. Paine Windows NT 5.0 Build:2195 Friday, March 10, 2000

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 3:44:46 AM, tracer wrote in response to my saying: DH This happens when resources are low and the screen redraws very DH slowly. Often shutting down TB! helps postpone my rebooting a DH bit, if I delete the .tmp before

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Friday, March 10, 2000, 2:30:48 AM, tracer wrote in response to my saying: DH>>> Clue? You mean an anti-virus application? DH>>> I have at guard installed but it's usually disabled. t> At guard is not an antivirus... Simon had mentioned "a certain 's

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 22:35:34 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 11:35:34 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, > Thursday, March 09, 2000, 8:35:17 PM, Simon wrote in response to my saying: DH>

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 19:25:25 + GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 2:25:25 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > Justin D. Paine posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: JDP>> Why not run I.E. as a seperate process? >

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:35:17 + GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:35:17 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > Douglas Hinds posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH>> Clue? You mean an anti-virus application? DH

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-10 Thread tracer
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:17:55 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, March 10, 2000, 9:17:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hi Douglas, > On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:43:02 -0600GMT (10/03/2000, 09:43 +0800GMT), > Douglas Hinds wrote: DH>> Clue? Y

Re[6]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, Thursday, March 09, 2000, 8:35:17 PM, Simon wrote in response to my saying: DH>> I have at guard installed but it's usually disabled. This happens DH>> when resources are low and the screen redraws very slowly. Often DH>> shutting down TB! helps postpone

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Thomas & all fellow TBUDL members, Thursday, March 09, 2000, 8:17:55 PM, Thomas wrote in response to my saying: DH>> You mean an anti-virus application? I have at guard installed DH>> but it's usually disabled. TF> Now that's pretty fatalistic. Just today I got the old Pretty Park TF> vi

Re[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Douglas Hinds posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH> Clue? You mean an anti-virus application? DH> I have at guard installed DH> but it's usually disabled. this happens when resources are low and the DH> screen redraws very slowly. Often shutting down TB! h

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Douglas, On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 19:43:02 -0600GMT (10/03/2000, 09:43 +0800GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH> Clue? You mean an anti-virus application? I have at guard installed DH> but it's usually disabled. Now that's pretty fatalistic. Just today I got the old Pretty Park virus again in an email.

Re[4]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, Thursday, March 09, 2000, 3:50:41 PM, Simon wrote in response to my saying: DH>> The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... S> Funny that. There is a certain 'security' app that I know of causes S> this very same error in TB! if configure

Re[3]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Douglas Hinds posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH> The only problems I ever get are the "no canvas handle"... Funny that. There is a certain 'security' app that I know of causes this very same error in TB! if configured incorrectly when TB! is running al

Re[5]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Justin D. Paine posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: JDP> Why not run I.E. as a seperate process? Well this was in fact what I was doing until I last upgraded IE 5 to IE 5.1. The setting I remember was under the advanced tab of Internet Options, but to my di

Re[4]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Justin D. Paine
Hello Simon, Why not run I.E. as a seperate process? Best regards, Justin D. Paine S> How-do-you-do, S> UN-BE-LIEVable There I was mouthin' on about how I was sooo bleedin' S> clever earlier, and just as I closed an open browser window, it hung. Used S> PV2K process killer to kill the pr

Re[3]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, UN-BE-LIEVable There I was mouthin' on about how I was sooo bleedin' clever earlier, and just as I closed an open browser window, it hung. Used PV2K process killer to kill the process but all open windows were children of main browser process so killed them all too...and then t

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-09 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: >>> Sadly, windoze won't do that reliably :-(((. It needs a reboot at >>> least three times weekly to remain stable. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with your comment 99% of the time. However, I hav

Re: OT: NT Genesis (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-09 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, Responding to your article on Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 09:39:09 GMT + (which was 09/03/2000 16:39 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : SH>> As far as I can remember, NT under DEC alpha very stable and run SH>> more faster than on Intel base (especially if RAM 64 MB or

OT: NT Genesis (was Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-09 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Syafril, On 09 March 2000 at 09:23:23 GMT +0700 (which was 02:23 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: >>> Now I wonder if someone will ask what NT has to do with VMS (g) AM>> OK. The man (I forgot his name) who designed NT had a lot to do AM>> with VMS development

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Allie Martin, Responding to your article on Thursday, March 09, 2000 at 20:55:17 GMT -0500 (which was 09/03/2000 8:55 GMT +0700 my Local Time) : >> Now I wonder if someone will ask what NT has to do with VMS (g) AM> OK. The man (I forgot his name) who designed NT had a lot to do with AM

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Jay Levine
If I remember correctly. There was once was a guy named Dave Cutler who was the architect for Digital's OS - VMS (right?) - MS hired him to architect Windows NT. Jay On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Allie Martin wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:50:24 +0700, tracer wrote: > > Now I wonder if someone will ask

SOT: Free Internet Access (was:Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze)

2000-03-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Marck, On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:30:20 +GMT (08/03/2000, 20:30 +0800GMT), Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: S>> (which will be possible soon here in UK with latest news of FREE S>> unmetered access from April 17th...about time n'all) MDP> I've been noticing stuff about that recently - please can y

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Allie Martin
On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:50:24 +0700, tracer wrote: > Now I wonder if someone will ask what NT has to do with VMS (g) OK. The man (I forgot his name) who designed NT had a lot to do with VMS development as well, and because of this the design of both OS's share striking similarities? :) --

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread tracer
Hello Marck D. Pearlstone, On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:32:45 + GMT your local time, which was Thursday, March 09, 2000, 7:32:45 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: > Sadly that does not concur with my experience of NT, which does > outlast Win9x in the stay-alive stak

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi John, On 08 March 2000 at 08:23:37 GMT +0900 (which was 23:23 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: >>> Of course, you could always load Windows, then TB! and leave >>> running 24/7/365, ad infinitum... >> Sadly, windoze won't do that reliably :-(((. It need

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread John De Hoog
"Marck D. Pearlstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >S> Of course, you could always load Windows, then TB! and leave >S> running 24/7/365, ad infinitum... > >Sadly, windoze won't do that reliably :-(((. It needs a reboot at >least three times weekly to remain stable. True of Win9x, but

Re[3]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello Simon & all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 10:41:16 AM, Simon wrote: S> Perhaps I should dig out and install an old 486 processor again. S> That way I wouldn't be able to launch 2 or 3 apps in the space of S> about 1 sec! That might cure it ;-) Now that you mention it,

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 4:24:29 AM, tracer wrote in response to my saying: >> I just shut down TB! 1.39 and while it reopened, I opened EccoPro >> with no problems, under an early Win95. Is the version of windows >> likely to figure in this problem?

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Christopher J. Trybowski posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: CJT> just remember not to run anything after TB is launched (till at least CJT> parts of its window appear). Yeah, that was the bit I was forgetting. I usually leave TB! running, but on the odd

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Christopher J. Trybowski
Hello Simon, On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 you wrote: > How-do-you-do, How do you do! > I have noticed that TB! very occasionally seems to freeze with Windows when > I launch it just as I make a connection to the Net. It is always just as TB! > launches at the same time the connection is opened. I

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Simon, On 08 March 2000 at 12:01:51 GMT + (which was 12:01 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: S> Of course, you could always load Windows, then TB! and leave S> running 24/7/365, ad infinitum... Sadly, windoze won't do that reliably :-(((. It need

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Marck D. Pearlstone posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: MDP> This is what I do, having a shortcut to "startup.bat" in my startup MDP> folder. Yes, this is what I figured. I was using Robert Simpson's 'NetLaunch' to load and shut down TB! (as well as ever

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi tracer, On 08 March 2000 at 17:21:39 GMT +0700 (which was 10:21 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: >>> Openning another program while The Bat is opening will kill my >>> system. Sure... Its easy to do as well or to forget it and then >>> nothing helps excep

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Dieter Hummel
Hello Listmembers, On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 at 10:11:09 [GMT +] Simon wrote: > I am running TB! on Windows 98 SE 4.10 A. What about the rest of > you? I never had Win98 on one of my systems after I installed it once at customer's site. Concerning Win NT4 -> W2000 Pro, TB never cause

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:11:09 + GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 5:11:09 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > Douglas Hinds posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH>> Is the version of windows likely to figure

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread tracer
Hello Douglas Hinds, On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 00:40:41 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 1:40:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Douglas Hinds wrote: > Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, > Tuesday, March 07, 2000, 6:32:48 PM, tracer wrote: t>> Openning another prog

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread tracer
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:09:26 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 10:09:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Januk Aggarwal wrote: > Hello tracer, > On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 07:32:48 GMT +0700 (which was 4:32 PM > where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re[3]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-08 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, Douglas Hinds posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: DH> Is the version of windows likely to figure in this problem? May very well be, but there again... I am running TB! on Windows 98 SE 4.10 A. What about the rest of you? Slán anois, Simon sen

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread Douglas Hinds
Hello tracer & all fellow TBUDL members, Tuesday, March 07, 2000, 6:32:48 PM, tracer wrote: t> Openning another program while The Bat is opening will kill my t> system. Sure... Its easy to do as well or to forget it and then t> nothing helps except a restart I just shut it down TB! 1.39 and wh

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello tracer, On Tuesday, March 07, 2000 at 07:32:48 GMT +0700 (which was 4:32 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > Openning another program while The Bat is opening will kill my system. > Sure... > Its easy to do as well or to forget it and then nothing helps except > a restart It

Re[2]: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, tracer posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following comments: t> Its easy to do as well or to forget it and then nothing helps except t> a restart Yeah, same here; then causes a total lockup. A restart is the only way to defrost Windows once deep frozen by TB! :-( Slán a

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread tracer
Hello Simon, On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:15:52 + GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, March 08, 2000, 4:15:52 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Simon wrote: > How-do-you-do, > I have noticed that TB! very occasionally seems to freeze with Windows when > I launch it just as I make a connection to

Re: The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread Pasquale J. Festa Sr.
Hello Simon, March 07, 2000, 4:15:52 PM, you wrote: S> How-do-you-do, S> I have noticed that TB! very occasionally seems to freeze with Windows when S> I launch it just as I make a connection to the Net. It is always just as TB! S> launches at the same time the connection is opened. If I wait 3

The Bat! Deep Freeze

2000-03-07 Thread Simon
How-do-you-do, I have noticed that TB! very occasionally seems to freeze with Windows when I launch it just as I make a connection to the Net. It is always just as TB! launches at the same time the connection is opened. If I wait 3 secs (after ICMP & UDP packets finish broadcasting) I do not seem