Lance Muir wrote:
Iz:you may need to nuance or,
clarify a bit so as not to elicit too resounding an Amen from DaveH.
DAVEH: AMENto
both of your comments.
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Holy China. I have been trying to catch up on my mail -- so I have been reading and writing and really having some fun -- then, I just now scrolled to the top just to see how far I have to go -- I am ashamed of myself. 20 posts and I have just begun. Sorry. Having too much fun. I w
In a message dated 8/21/2004 12:28:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iz:Follow the same prescription as given Jt. Take two and call me in the morning. Go watch the Olympics where some second-rate US atheletes are performing.
Our swim team kinda got to ya, huh?
Smitty
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:59:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So does Clarence Thomas for starters. But, I suspect that high court considerations are beyond you backwoods, redneck conservative types.
Better this than John Kerry's fairy tale about Cambodian incursions
In a message dated 8/21/2004 12:02:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
His blood was spilled in the process of His redeeming life, death, descent, resurrection and, ascent. I know that 'scope' is tough for you Limbaughites.
Lance my man you're just dying to have a politi
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:36:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John and Lance: Do we or do we not need the Blood of Christ for the remission of sin? (Regardless of whether we have/have not heard, or where we live?) Izzy
Me , John -- I say " of course."
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:46:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(the dark side encroachesâ.) Do you think Sunshine Smithson has prayed for discernment in his readings? Iz
Discernment is my middle name
John D Smithson
I think you have misspoken --
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:10:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Paul was referring to the OT Law (or sometimes Talmud law) whenever he referenced the Law. Most early Christians were Jews, well associated with the Law. Yes, but he u
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:18:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iz:No it (the cross) is not central! What IS central is WHO is on the cross. But, what about that which preceded it (His life) and, followed it (death, descent, resurrection &ascent)???Hmm? D
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:05:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Thank you for clarifying. Kruger sees the cross (and forgiveness it provides) simply as fringe benefits of the gospel; this is the centerpiece of every cult.
I have not read this in Kruger. I no lo
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:06:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm not seeking a pat on the back Lance, John is the disciple, not me. You and I don't even speak the same
language and don't forget I'm on the static understanding side ...
Jt:What a surprisingly pleasan
In a message dated 8/21/2004 10:50:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh noâJohn is using the âessenceâ word now! Izzy
It is also the name of my perfume.
Ms Smithson -- out !!
In a message dated 8/21/2004 10:46:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Forgot to mention that being on the "static side" does not preclude change. The changes of expanding, and growing, however, are in us rather than on God's side because His Truth does not ever change. Jesus
In a message dated 8/21/2004 10:14:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John writes:
Let me take at shot at this one. If I am right, then Lance's comment is not veiled in any kind of mystery.
A "dynamic understanding of the Nature of God and His Gospel" tells me that Lance'
In a message dated 8/21/2004 9:00:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No need for Toronto. Just bring in Jimmy Carter..He's got a Nobel prize you know!!
Yeah, he brought peace to Middle East.
JD
In a message dated 8/21/2004 8:33:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Smits:Just do a google search.
Se.
Juan
In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:59:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Second Adam = Assumption of first Adam's nature
jt: Where in all of scripture is the basis for the above presumption? He took upon Himself the "form" of man
which is
In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:48:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John: When baseball season comes on, and I coach kids baseball, I often wear the same hat in exactly the same way every time we have a game. When I do not or cannot follow this pattern of activity, I feel ba
In a message dated 8/21/2004 4:43:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take a look at the gospel(s) being preached:narcissistic, health &wealth, individualistic, deistic (founding fathers), gnostic/dualistic, biblicist/fundamentalist (read angry), religious, tradition-bound, non-
We'll go with ... brown.
John
In a message dated 8/21/2004 4:18:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John writes:
I am guessing that you believe that I am not studied in scripture or you would not think that I am giving an interpretation that conflicts
Kool again
Smittyson
In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:15:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John:Yes indeed.
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Sent: August 20, 2004 17:50
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians' authority over natur
Lance, I guess you are the only one who
thinks insults (at others) are funny. There is godly humor, and then there is
mean-spiritedness. Doesn’t say much for your theology. Izzy (Maybe you
should run this past your wife if you don’t understand it.)
From:
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It was just one of those days when I felt like
having a little fun with Iz and Judy. (mostly, at any rate).
Fortunately for me I think at least one has a sense
of humour. (har de har har)
Response: Bang zoom ..to the moon, Lance.
enjoy!
So you re
It was just one of those days when I felt like
having a little fun with Iz and Judy. (mostly, at any rate). Fortunately for me
I think at least one has a sense of humour. (har de har har) Response: Bang zoom
..to the moon, Lance.
enjoy!
Who told you "education is not the strong suit of the
good ol USA?"
You have an "attitude" toward everything American Lance
and it is ungodly,
does not say much for your mentors.
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:09:09 -0400
Subject: R
Jt:'Faith'(?) in education. I know education is not
the strong suit of the good ol USA but, 'faith ' in it? Uhh no! I do however
wish that I had some instead of being the undeducated dolt that I am.
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Sen
Iz:Lighten up! I'da thunk that trailer trash (talk)
woulda bin right up your flag wavin' alley.
You folks don't seem to mind doing hatchet jobs on
fellow believers who are otherwise politically aligned. The charicatures you
occasionally offer up are deplorable. I suppose it all depends who'
I don't know what is going on but parts of my emails
are being
gobbled up by some kind of an web pacman before they
come back
to my computer. Just letting you know what is
going on if you receive
an odd or misplaced line that is out of context.
jt
Jt:Judy, Judy, Judy please... stay with what you do
best (the misapplication of Scripture). This other stuff could hurt you.
jt: If this "other
stuff" means what you have been promoting here - then for the first time
today (or any day for that matter)
in this area I am able to agre
Well then, just leave it there. No need to jump
into water that's too deep for you. Shout if you need a life ring thrown
in.
jt: You really believe that
where you are at is "deep" Lance? You have a
lot of faith in all this "education" don't you?
Lance, God is not the
cosmos
Jt:Judy, Judy, Judy please... stay with what you do
best (the misapplication of Scripture). This other stuff could hurt you.
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From:
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Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 15:31
Subject: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
jt: L
Subject: Re: Re:
[TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
Lance wrote: Iz:Amen
brother Singh. I've read a good deal by him.
Izzy responds: Lance, That is good:
finally something upon which we can agree. Perhaps Brother Singh can help
you to have a more Christ-like attitude than wh
I can only assume that means you cannot
provide a scripture to justify your beliefs. Izzy
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Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Well th
Well then, just leave it there. No need to jump
into water that's too deep for you. Shout if you need a life ring thrown
in.
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From:
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Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 15:38
Subject: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
Oh well
Iz...
Looks as though Lance
has taken his ball and gone home. Not only that he has an
"attitude"
He appears to be
down on everything American... not just the spiritual.
Iz:Follow the same prescription as given Jt. Take
two and call me in the morning.
Go watch the Olympics wh
Jeff Powers wrote:
Purple text this time
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From:
Lance
Muir
To:
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Sent:
Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
Anyone who cannot preach 'gospel'
from the Tor
jt: Lance you wrote:
Of course God has 'changed' (allowing for the limitations of human
language). Three things that are New even for God: 1.
The Cosmos 2. The Incarnation 3. Resurrected, glorified
HUMANITY ascending to the right hand of the Father where He, Jesus,
continues to mediate on
Iz:Follow the same prescription as given Jt. Take
two and call me in the morning. Go watch the Olympics where some second-rate US
atheletes are performing.
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Jt:I don't expect for you to be able to understand
this nor, your newfound friend, Iz. Just move on and ascribe heresy to Lance. I
mean he's already Canadian and liberal, at least as you see
it.
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Iz:Amen brother Singh. I've read a good deal by
him.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 15:10
Subject: RE: Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Izzy provides some comments
regarding philosophers from a godly Be
Lance, God is not the cosmos. God was,
is, and ever will be (nothing changed there). I know nothing about the “ascent
of humanity”; could you give me that scripture please? I do know about
Believers seated in heavenly places, however. Izzy
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jt: I knew it!!
Didn't I just get
through saying that a certain person follows educated men...? and this is
right out of the horses mouth...
Iz:Be a good 'wifey' and, ask your husband. I think
you said he had an education eh?
Lance, You are as
easy to understand as G. I
Jt:Why would I when I have you to read?
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Sent: August 21, 2004 13:29
Subject: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jt:May I (laughingly) suggest that you star
Izzy provides some comments regarding
philosophers from a godly Believer by the name of Sundar Singh:
“He thanked God that he had been enabled to go to the West.
Before he went, he thought that there must be something in Modernist theories,
otherwise so many men would not write so many boo
Jt:I'd drop 'em like a hot potatoe for a chance to
follow you (Judge) Judy.
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From:
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Taylor
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Sent: August 21, 2004 14:26
Subject: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
jt: Cut the hype Lance - you do follow "people" -
religio
Jt:We do indeed! Want an autographed
copy?
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From:
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Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 14:35
Subject: Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
"I
am YHVH your God and I do not change (God)
Of course God has
Iz:Go back to crocheting where you can do more
good. Your poor brain's overloaded.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Well, like ya know;
God aint stuck in c
jt: I'm still really curious about when God changed and
how? I've been reading scripture for a long time and have
yet to see a prophet write about God changing - have
you? Do you think it possible for some to be wilfully
deceived?
Don’t feel bad about
that, jt. Liberals think the US
jt: Do I recognize the old "divide and conquer" right
here on TT?
Iz:Be careful she's gonna bite ya. Don't get too
comfortable.
Judy, You are on a
roll, too. Good work. J
Iz
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Iz:Be a good 'wifey' and, ask your husband. I think
you said he had an education eh?
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From:
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Sent: August 21, 2004 14:23
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Soul &
Spirit?
Lance, You are as
easy to understand
Iz:I ask again: what of the cosmos, Incarnation
and, ascent of humanity to the right hand of God.?
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
"I
am YHVH your God and I
Iz:If you're gonna wrap yourself in the good old
red, white & blue I'm sure it will protect you from mere verbal assaults
from a whimpy lib like me.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] C
Iz:you may need to nuance or, clarify a bit so as
not to elicit too resounding an Amen from DaveH.
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Sent: August 21, 2004 14:29
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature
Jesus b
His blood was spilled in the process of His
redeeming life, death, descent, resurrection and, ascent. I know that 'scope' is
tough for you Limbaughites.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTa
Iz:Be careful she's gonna bite ya. Don't get too
comfortable.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 14:43
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Judy, You are on a
roll, too. Good work. J
Iz
So does Clarence Thomas for starters. But, I
suspect that high court considerations are beyond you backwoods, redneck
conservative types.
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Sent: August 21, 2004 14:47
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
Iz:Methinks you miss the point (seriously). You and
that other lady do that a lot. I wish to show no more disrespect than what is
called for but(wilfull ignorance vs plain old ignorance?)
Duhh
Even a smart mouth like myself doesn't appreciate
ignorance from a self-professed 'ma
Jt: check out the comic books. Iz
. Lance do you sell your version of scripture at your Bookstore?
Duh! Like, I know that, Lance. But do you?
Iz
Iz:No it (the cross) is not central! What IS central is WHO is on
the cross.
(the dark side encroaches….) Do you
think Sunshine Smithson has prayed for discernment in his readings? Iz
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
12:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Soul
Don’t feel bad about that, jt.
Liberals think the US Consitution is a “living, breathing” document
as well (so they can change the original intent/meaning of it as well as the
Bible’s.) Izzy
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Sent: Saturd
Judy, You are on a roll, too. Good
work. J Iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
Forgot to mention that being on the
"static side" do
Jt:Where would we be without (Judge) Judy? My
goodness! attending to the 'teachings of men' over the Bible. Thanks again,
(Judge) Judy.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 13:11
Subject: [TruthTalk] Romans 2:12-16
Lance is really on a roll. LOL! Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Romans
2:12-16
Jt:Can you help me distinguish between wilfully ignorant
"I am YHVH
your God and I do not change (God)
Of course God has 'changed'.
(Lance)
jt Then God's Word can not be
trusted because He does not stand by it and if the Word above is wrong then
maybe Jesus is not
the same yesterday, today, and
forever. Maybe He was not the lamb slain
Lance has illustrated for us the Kruger
gospel: Christ not necessarily necessary. John and Lance: Do we or do we not
need the Blood of Christ for the remission of sin? (Regardless of whether we
have/have not heard, or where we live?) Izzy
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Jesus became like us so that we could
become like Him. Izzy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
4:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Christians' authority over nature
Second Adam = As
jt: Cut the hype Lance - you do follow "people" -
religious, intellectual, type people who teach at universities.
Jt:IFF I were to 'follow' someone it would be
someone like yourself who, insofar as I can recall,
has never be wrong on anything. Who wouldn't want
to follow that kind of perso
Perry, Please whip Lance with something
for his ad hominum attack on myself. Thank you. Izzy
PS Lance you are so “open minded”
your brains have fallen out.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
3:54 AM
To: [
"I
am YHVH your God and I do not change (God) Of course God
has 'changed'. (Lance)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004
3:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
What on
Lance, You are as easy to understand as
G. I guess that makes me dense. You wrote below “Linda:I do
for the reasons cited:soul (philsophical), spirit (poor exegesis).” Was that
actually supposed to EXPLAIN anything to me? I asked how you can explain away
scriptural references to soul and
Well, like ya know; God ain’t stuck
in chronology, Lance. Get it? The Trinity always existed, always will, and
nothing is new with that. He is “I AM”, not “I WAS, I AM, and
I WILL BE.” He is free of “time”, which you are using to say
that He changes, contrary to scripture. (Which He wrote
Iz:No it (the cross) is not central! What IS
central is WHO is on the cross. But, what about that which preceded it (His
life) and, followed it (death, descent, resurrection &
ascent)???Hmm? Don't be theologically myopic.
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From:
ShieldsFam
Jt:IFF I were to 'follow' someone it would be
someone like yourself who, insofar as I can recall, has never be wrong on
anything. Who wouldn't want to follow that kind of person?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 14:
Gelatins??? J
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:04
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Pretty good for an old guy. You made it into Smithson's
"saved" file. Go a
Iz:No I'm not. (keepin 'em short)
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 14:09
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature
John, Paul was
referring to the OT Law (or sometimes Talmud law) when
John, Paul was referring to the OT Law (or
sometimes Talmud law) whenever he referenced the Law. Most early Christians
were Jews, well associated with the Law. According to Romans, all are judged by
the right and wrong that they know in their hearts, whether from the written
Law or not. La
Linda:shorter & shorter
zzz
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 14:10
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS
SIN?
Gelatins???
J
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then you should call yourself Sunshine.
Izzy
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 9:51
PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature
In a message dated 8/20/2004
I'm not seeking a pat on the back Lance, John is
the disciple, not me. You and I don't even speak the same
language and don't forget I'm on the static
understanding side ...
Jt:What a surprisingly pleasant post. Well done,
young lady.
Forgot to mention that being
on the "static side"
John, Thank you for clarifying.
Kruger sees the cross (and forgiveness it provides) simply as fringe benefits
of the gospel; this is the centerpiece of every cult. I am very wary of
any theology that diminishes the need for repentance and holiness, and ignores
the centrality of the Blood
Astute observation Izzy - what meaneth this?
jt
Oh no—John is using the
“essence” word now! Izzy
jt:
The mere citation is no good unless you can prove what you are saying is so by
the rest of scripture and you have never done this. The scriptures do not teach
that "all humanity" is i
Jt:What a surprisingly pleasant post. Well done,
young lady.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 21, 2004 13:44
Subject: [TruthTalk] WHAT IS SIN?
Forgot to mention that being on the "static side"
does not preclude chan
Oh no—John is using the “essence”
word now! Izzy
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:32
PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Soul
& Spirit?
In a message dated 8/20/
Forgot to mention that being on the "static side" does
not preclude change. The changes of expanding, and growing, however,
are in us rather than on God's side because His Truth does not ever
change. Jesus is and has been the same yesterday, today, and forever and
God says "I am the Lord,
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jt:May I (laughingly) suggest that you start your
own church? We then, will all fall (statically) in line behind you (You, of
course being statically in line with all the truth of Scripture). Problem solved
eh? God luv ya Judy! You are one
ultra-certain
Michael D, Would you mind telling us what
the 20 yr old “root” was, to give us a concrete example? Izzy
Please
bear with me for an example, Jeff. A close brother in Christ was going through
some devasting business failures for seemingly no reason (for the scale
involved). I
Jt:May I (laughingly) suggest that you start your
own church? We then, will all fall (statically) in line behind you (You, of
course being statically in line with all the truth of Scripture). Problem solved
eh?
God luv ya Judy! You are one
ultra-certain lady.
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jt:Can you help me distinguish between wilfully
ignorant and just plain ignorant?
jt: What difference does it make
Lance? - ignorant is ignorant. God said His people perished for lack of
knowledge. .
I'm not even hinting that truth is diverse (thi
John writes:
Let me take at shot at this one. If I
am right, then Lance's comment is not veiled in any kind of mystery. A
"dynamic understanding of the Nature of God and His Gospel" tells me
that Lance's view is one that is in flux, changing, expanding, growing.
The use of the wording
Jt:Can you help me distinguish between wilfully
ignorant and just plain ignorant?
I'm not even hinting that truth is diverse (this my
question above).
As to the less-than-veiled 'warning'
well...thankfully you are not my judge (Judy) (Oh look it's a kinda untentional
joke)
'Theological
Jt:No, mine's the same as yours. You just get
funnier and(if you are taking out 'contracts' on these people please note
that only two are still alive)
Just imagine a round table with Torrance/Dake,
Kruger/Scofield, & Polanyi/Menninger (Fun to be had by the whole
family)
No need for
Jt:What's this 'blood' fettish thing ya got goin on
JT? No. You inhabit 'wrong city' on this issue. He is truly, completely one of
us.
PS:You can be quite wrong on this and still
be SAVED so, don't lose any sleep over it. PPS:I'm coming to think that
'exactitude theologically' may be mor
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jt:Yes indeed! Say I.
PS: If you're not just being your funny self:
(Exclude me as I believe that you do that already)
Given the interpretive diversity on almost every
issue..point made (right Judy?)
jt: Your point once more Lance,
definitely n
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
As I read you it is apparent that your own sense of
'right and wrong' is informed by family, society and religious tradition.
jt: As opposed to what?
TFT, Kruger, Polyani et al.
I do believe that God, Who embodies 'right &
wrong' ontologically, doe
Jt:Yes indeed! Say I.
PS: If you're not just being your funny self:
(Exclude me as I believe that you do that already) Given the interpretive
diversity on almost every issue..point made (right Judy?)
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Smits:Just do a google search.
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How excellent for all that being right/correct/accurate in apprehension is not a prerequisite
for 'salvation'. Rock on Judy.
jt: Says who Lance -
You?
Read 1 Corinthians
10:1-12
Judy, I am a little surprised at your bias. It is, in fact, the
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BTW, Jonathan, I never said that a particular parable was the key to understanding the gospel. But JESUS said, in Mark 4:
11 An
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Jt:Check Heb 2:16-18.
jt: Jesus partook of human flesh
without partaking of the effect of Adam's blood. Heb 2:14 says "forasmuch
then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood
he also himself likewise took part of the
same."
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