John wrote:
The Son is such because He is always
the Servant of the Father.
John wrote:
A son can become a servant on any or several occasions.
And a servant can become a son, which is the case in which we find
ourselves.
John wrote:
The fact that He claimed to be the Son was understood
Bill Taylor wrote:
I guess I know
you well enough to know that
this will not be convincing, nor the end of
this :)
Perhaps you do not know me as well as you
think. I thought your post was articulated very well and was very
convincing. Nonetheless,I'm sure you would agree that suchdoes
John wrote:
... that would have over looked the intrinsic
value of shared thinking.
I have always said it this way. No man on earth has the full revelation of
Christ within himself. The fullness of Christ is revealed only through his
ekklesia (assembly), as we are in relationship with one
John wrote:
It is 11:30 my time. The post below has 9:17 PM
for the time sent -- something I wrote and sent
around 7:30, in fact. I have missed a number of posts,
entirely, based upon the fact that I have come across
a number of posts copied over which were never received
-- but there
John wrote:
Bill could very well become a teacher's teacher.
Bill already is a teacher's teacher. :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
Lance wrote:
If ya hasn't read it how duz ya know what to call it?
I listen to those who have read it, and I am reading it now.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer every man.
Reggie White, known as an NFL legend and a fearless proclaimer of the
Gospel, dies at 43
By Erin Curry - BP News
CHRISTIAN EXAMINER
Certainly not by me. I've been enjoying your posts
and the inner-tension you are describing andworking through. It seems to
me that that is how we come to know what we believe. It's not fun or enjoyable
for the one going through it, but it does appear to be a necessary step in the
process
No AOL user can receive mail from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email
address. It rejects it as spam due to something about mindspring
Kay
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller
Sent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 05.41
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is 11:30 my time. The post below has 9:17 PM for the time sent
-- something I wrote and sent around 7:30, in fact. I have missed a
number of posts, entirely, based upon the fact that I have come across
a number of posts copied over which were never received -- but
Did
you know Reggie was MESSIANIC???
Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two
years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent:
David Miller wrote:
I have always said it this way. No man on earth has the full revelation of
Christ within himself. The fullness of Christ is revealed only through his
ekklesia (assembly), as we are in relationship with one another. There are
some truths that we will never receive
This is why I hate AOL. I have a close
friend who has AOL and all my emails to her are returned as spam. We think it
is because real spammers spoof with our email address, and once
that happens AOL marks your email address and no matter if you write to them
about it, you will have constant
Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC???
Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the
past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless.
Kay
===
Until a short time ago, I knew nothing about this man. I look up
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:08:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
The Son is such because He is always
the Servant of the Father.
John wrote:
A son can become a servant on any or several occasions.
And a servant can become a son, which is the case in which we
I did not know he was Messianic, but I did know that he learned Hebrew and
I heard him read a passage of Scripture in Hebrewonce. By the way,
does celebrating Sukkoth make one Messianic? (... just curious)
Peace be with you.David Miller.
- Original Message -
From:
Slade
I would agree with the comments below. Right on and all that. Seriously. But, sometimes, we are debating the opposite side of the coin. Rather, at times, we are debating whether the coin is a nickle or silver dollar.
John
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:29:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
No, it
doesn't necessarily. There are other "feast keepers" who are not Messianic. Mr.
White kept Sabbath and was Torah observant.
Are
you thinking of celebrating Sukkot?
K.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of David
Quoted from:
http://www.rebeccaatthewell.org/tabernacles.html
REGGIE WHITE:
Although Reggie has been a born again believer since 1978 and began preaching
shortly thereafter it wasn't until 2000 that he became an Ordained Minister of
the Torah. As a former NFL Player and team leader
I
would say much the same of my fellow Believers in Torah teachers...and DOers,
which Reggie was.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 07.45To:
David asks Do such factshave any relevance in
discussing the notion ofequality with God?
1. Yeshua, in his earthly service to humanity, was
made a little lower than the angels.
BT: I fail to see
how this statement needs to be handled or understood in a light different than
that of the
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:22
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal
Sonship of Christ Matters to Me
Bill,
Thank you for
David Miller wrote:
And a servant can become a son, which is
the case in which we find ourselves.
John wrote:
... your conclusion above is poorly thought out.
Unnecessary ad hominem comment.
John wrote:
A servant who is not a son already, can never
become a son except through adoption.
David,
In a free moment down the road will you speak a few words to the recent
discovery in, I believe it was, Montana, where a T-Rex was found and
discovered to have been preserved with blood still in its composition? Are
you familiar with this? The limited information I have received on the
Any time we replace old beliefs with new ones there is the
potential of inner tension,a trickle-down effect which takes place as
other, yet unchanged beliefs are challenged by the new. This I believe is what
John is experiencing/expressing. Hence it does not necessarily have
Bill, my personal
experience (FWIW) has been that when I have anxiety or tension
over a new concept it is because I am trying to incorporate something that is
not of the Spirit of God. Thus the concept and the Spirit are at war;
conflicted. Whenever I come into true
Well, you are truly blessed.
Bill
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:56
AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal
Sonship of Christ Matters to Me
Any time
I have a feeling you haven't put many puzzles
together :)
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:08
PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal
Sonship of Christ Matters to Me
Bill, perhaps we DO have this profound
sense of awareness when we are
truly plugged into His Spirit.
Izzy
Yeah,
Izzy, maybe.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 11:52
AM
Subject: RE:
Correction: "coinherent" -- sorry for any confusion
:)
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Bill Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 9:09
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal
Sonship of Christ Matters to Me
In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:33:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Certainly not by me. I've been enjoying your posts and the inner-tension you are describing and working through. It seems to me that that is how we come to know what we believe. It's not fun or enjoyable for
In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:33:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Possibly your computer is possessed by demons. Either that, or monitor worms.
Terry :-)
Some will think they are the same -- but my computer is infected; just don't have time to get it fixed. My work is
Hi all,I
am a new kid on this block, and I think it behooves me just tolisten for a
while, but rather than skulk under the eaves I thought I'd let you know I'm
here. Ive been a Christian for a long time and have always been very interested
in questions of faith.Now, though, I'm at a point
In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you know Reggie was MESSIANIC???
Yep...he celebrated Sukkot with some friends of ours for the past two years. A young Messianic, but a Messianic nonetheless.
Kay
I saw a reference to Reggie's
Welcome to the most dysfunctional group on the
web! I'm sure you will be stretched and strained, just like the rest of
us. As I said, welcome to the fight, err debate, ummm, discussion, uh what
exactly do we call this fiasco guys?!
Jeff
Life makes warriors of us all.To emerge the victors,
Cool, Debbie, welcome aboard. We're glad to meet
your acquaintance and happy you are here.
Bill Taylor
- Original Message -
From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 5:39
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] newbie
Hi all,I
Yea,
wellya gotta take what comes with the job! Some of us, though, refuse to do
what "they" tell us to do...
As he
learned hayesod (the foundation), you're right...his faith grew stronger. I've
seen it happen more times than I can count. Then again, I'm generally surrounded
by
Welcome, DebbieI can spank Jeff for you if you
want...
Kay
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
PowersSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 19.26To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk]
newbie
Welcome to
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Hi all,
I am a new
kid on this block, and I think it behooves me just tolisten for a
while, but rather than skulk under the eaves I thought I'd let you know
I'm here. Ive been a Christian for a long time and have always been
very interested in questions
I
actually have friends from all walks of faithsome with no walk at all. I
figure they'll get there, someday.
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave
HansenSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 02.48To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My work is great, right now.
Jd
Praise the Lord.
Welcome, Debbie! How did you learn about
this rascally bunch? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
6:39 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] newbie
Hi
all,
I am a new kid on
Do it for me, Kay! J Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
6:41 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] newbie
Welcome, DebbieI can spank Jeff for
you if you want...
You
got it, Iz. I'll have Slade sit on him...
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
ShieldsFamilySent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005
19.48To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE:
[TruthTalk] newbie
Do it for me, Kay!
Sorry folks, I can't help it! This cracked me
up!!!
Toilet Brush Warning Wins Consumer Award
Thu Jan 6, 4:50 PM ET
In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:11:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You apparently misunderstood my post, because we are in agreement. We find
ourselves to be sons of God through adoption, but Yeshua was and is the only
begotten son of God. He is unique.
No, we do not
In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:11:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
... your conclusion above is poorly thought out.
Unnecessary ad hominem comment.
David, stop with "ad hominem" already. I spoke what I truly believe.
JD
nanner, nanner, nanner, first ya gotta catch me!
And just who decides the rules of these spankings?
I'lltry toilet brushes for
$200.
"What new warning labels will be on toilet brushes in
the near future?"
answer: "Not for personal hygiene."
Jeff
Life makes warriors of us all.To emerge the
Hehehehe...only thing that worries me is this
sentence:
This year's contest coincides with a drive by President Bush (news
- web
sites) and congressional Republicans to put caps and other limits on jury
awards in liability cases.
(Sorry
Iz, I cannot support him on this one,
(Sorry Iz, I cannot support him on this one, either:)
You never file any claim, (tort claim or otherwise) with a
dollar amount in it. You ALWAYS let the jury decide. Juries tend to award the
big bucks.
Kay
Thats exactly why we need some kind of caps. I live too
In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:11:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
" And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed
are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood
did not reveal this to you, but my Father who is in
heaven" (Matt 16:17). And what was this
One
swat for everyyear of age.you're in big trouble. I can run faster than
you
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
PowersSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 20.05To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re:
In a message dated 1/6/2005 4:48:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Hi all,
I am a new kid on this block, and I think it behooves me just to listen for a while, but rather than skulk under the eaves I thought I'd let you know I'm here. Ive been a
(Sorry Iz, I cannot support him on this one, either:)
You never file any claim, (tort claim or otherwise) with a
dollar amount in it. You ALWAYS let the jury decide. Juries tend to award the
big bucks.Kay
PS
I forgot to mention, juries dont even usually get to the point of
We had a missionary speak at our home church meeting on Tuesday
evening. He is a local boy, home for a rest and to report to his
supporters. He started out carrying/dragging a cross from town to town,
speaking where he was welcome, stopping along the road to tell what God
had done for him
In a message dated 1/6/2005 4:36:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Welcome to the most dysfunctional group on the web! I'm sure you will be stretched and strained, just like the rest of us. As I said, welcome to the fight, err debate, ummm, discussion, uh what exactly do we
Very sad about the starvation in Africa, Terry. But it isnt because nobody cares.
Its because no one can get relief past the corrupt, incompetent
governments running such backwards nations. Its such a crime, and my
only hope for a solution is the Second Coming. Izzy
-Original
Maybe
if the doctors didn't mess up, they wouldn't get sued. The standard for medical
malpractice claims are VERY high, so it's hard to win a lawsuitthat means
there has to be some egregious error made by the doctor in the first place
before a suit can be brought forth andwon. Makes me
I
don't pay for insurance.
The
easy fix is...refuse to settle. Go to trial and if the claim is truly meritless,
it will lose. But, in my opinion, the doctor who removes the wrong kidney should
be suedand lose his license. Would it be Biblical to ask for his kidney in
exchangeeye
In a message dated 1/6/2005 4:47:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My work is great, right now.
Jd
Praise the Lord.
A big big amen to that. There is no other reason.
John
Kay, just wait til Slade sees this. We have discussed
this several times and the passage does not mean a literal eye for eye, etc.,
What it means is fair and just compensation to the injured person. ie: a tooth
is worth $30, an eye $25,000, a kidney $1,000,000.
Hey don't hold me to these
Welcome, Debbie!
How did you learn about this rascally bunch? Izzy
From Lance, who is
about sharing goodthings with people whenever he finds them (the things
and the people). Thanks for the thousand welcomes!
Debbie
See,
the Bible tells you so!!! It is Biblical to sue
:)
Kay
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
PowersSent: Thursday, 06 January, 2005 21.09To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Whats
next?
In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:40:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I personally believe that Romans 14 teaches us that a position of faith, if poorly determined,
I should have said "even if" -- " a position of faith, even if poorly determined
In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:59:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any time we replace old beliefs with new ones there is the potential of inner tension, a trickle-down effect which takes place as other, yet unchanged beliefs are challenged by the new. This I believe is
Kay, REALLY if its a case that bad
of course it will go to court. Problem is, even with a case that will
lose, its cheaper for the insurance co to bail out with a settlement;
otherwise they go on for weeks or more. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Hes a waskally wabbit, for sure.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie Sawczak
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
8:30 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] newbie
Welcome, Debbie! How did you learn
about this
As I said, most cases never reach a jury,
and the plaintiffs lawyers know it. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005
7:32 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Whats
next?
DAVEH: Though I am a bit late welcoming you, Debbie.I'm glad
you've seen fit to join TT. I hope you enjoy your visit here as much
as I have!
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Hi all,
I am a new
kid on this block, and I think it behooves me just tolisten for a
while, but rather than
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