http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,129979,00.html A little message about
the Olympics from Bill O'Reilley. Izzy
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"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not
Oh! I see what you meant Tim and I have no problem with
it. I also believe that we are judged by God's
Word (Law) now as well as later because sin
is 'lawlessness'. judyt
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Judy,
I appreciate you
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:41:08 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I do not believe I
have misquoted O’Reilly. His point was that there are other countries
out there that will look out for you/take care of you (synonymous) more than
the American government. Muc
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Hi
Judy,
Welcome to the fray. To answer your first question, unequivocally
I consider myself to be able to judge (used in the sense of discernment, not
in the sense of putting myself in a pos
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One plan (Incarnation), one covenant (Abrahamic),
one 'delivery system' (Grace) (Again I say read the paragraph prior to the
'decalogue") One Saviour (Jesus-God/Man, Incarnate, Israelite, Second
Adam)
ï
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The woman I sleep with most nights
is both a wife and a mother. Two very different things. Same
woman.
jt: Not a good object lesson and
more of an avoidance technique. God is a "Covenant" God all the way
through scripture
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Correctamundo Johnmeister!!
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One plan (Incarnation), one covenant (Abrahamic), one
'delivery system' (
hat it is that you find me to be saying in order that I might
come to comprehend your caricature?
thanks,
Lance
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Jonathan, Do you really
want big government “taking care of you”? Americans
don’t want to trade freedom to get dependency on big (tax eating,
godless, bureaucratic ) government telling them what they ne
o two things that he repeatedly
mentions: opportunity and the ability to make money.
Jonathan
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My favourite quote from OReillys Whos Looking out for You:
"Finally, the war in Iraq proves once again that ideologues can never look
out for you. They are too blinded by the light on the right or the
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Johnathan, Once and for all will you
please define for me your definition of “moralism” and tell me what
you and Lance have against it? Izzy
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God is going to do that. Unfortunately, considering the culture
has fallen and with the church apostasy ripening as foretold we can look
forward to major disaster coming our way.
If we study the Biblical pattern, for nations that God blessed, and then
turned away we will find that a good
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Jonathan, I'm so glad I'm not an ideologue! The minute the Democrat party
represents the things I believe in, I'll be happy to vote for it. :-) Izzy
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C. Tim Winkley wrote:
One
thing is to restore God’s Law back
to its original place in the congregation of believers.
DAVEH: ??? Can you please elaborate a little more on that, Tim?
Are you suggesting God’s Law
has been lost and needs to be restore
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C. Tim Winkley wrote:
One thing is to restore God’s Law back to its original place in the
congregation of believers.
And DaveH I find it hard to see how a country who will not take the best
care of you is a country looking out for you.
DAVEH: Some of us believe the best way to take care of people is to
teach them to be self sufficient, rather than be dependent on the
government. I don't want to ge
.
Tim
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C. Tim Winkley wrote:
One thing is to restore Godâs Law back t
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Izzy, we have had this conversation a
number of times. The latest is from a t
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God is going to do that. Unfortunately,
considering the culture has fallen and
Izzy responds in blue:
Izzy,
As I perceive you, you are perhaps the biggest ideologue on this forum
(in a
political sense - others are ideologues in a theology sense).
If so, I have no problem with that.
In fact, if that’s what I am it must be good.
i·de·o·logue
An adv
ace in the congregation of
believers.
Tim
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Do
you consider yourself a believer?
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What is this law
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Tim, God's
Law can be lost and it has been lost in the past. One exaple is in the book of
Nehemiah
when they
found a copy and it was r
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Tim:Just answer the Bishop's question.
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Do you consider yourself a
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else wrong. Come with humility. Your holier than
thou response below is not needed.
Jonathan
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reached here: http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/index_indicators.cfm.
Jonathan
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And DaveH I
a good thing but it is just that, on its own. Even a Satanist can be
moral Izzy.
Jonathan
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Hi Izzy,
As I asked please go back and read the
thread entitled Moralism versus Christianity. Your grasp of this concept
is slipping between your fingers at an alarming rate. Do not come to the
table looking through your own ideologue. Do not co
the street. Can you
understand my viewpoint at all? Izzy
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Izzy,
Look at your definiti
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And DaveH I find it hard to see how a country who will not take the best
care of you i
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Tim:Just
answer the Bishop's question.
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Izzy,
I have not been involved in name calling. Please identify where I have. I have exposed what I see your attitude as being: holier than thou. Read your own posts again. They drip with sarcasm and place you in a position above me. I
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Izzy in blue:
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Izzy,
I
hav
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What is this law that needs to be restored in the congregation of believers?
John
Of course. Do you? And about my question?
John
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Iz:This conversation is beyond saving. Why not
assume that Jonathan is wrong and move on to something else?
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Do you consider yourself
a believer?
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In a message dated 8/31/2004 7:17:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I appreciate your admonishment. Perhaps I can explain why I asked. Before I discuss something as diverse as the Law I need to find out whom I am discussing it with. I need to know what their perspective of
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Yes, I consider myself a believer. Let me be specific. I was born under the penalty of sin. In other words my body will die and my desire was to disobey God. As a result of my yielding to my nature to dis
C. Tim Winkley wrote:
Yes,
I consider myself a believer. Let
me be specific. I was born under
the penalty of sin. In other words
my body will die and my desire was to disobey God. As
a result of my yielding to my nature to disobey God, I
found myself in bondage. I
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Jonathan in some colour other than black, blue or red. Hmm I think
I will use green.
Izzy in
blue:
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Lance, Just when we are getting down to specifics
you want us to abandon the conversation? Please don’t encourage that.
Izzy
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Izzy in bold: Okay Jonathan, this conversation is getting unwieldy, so I
will cut to the main point here below: You and I, as Believers in the Living
God, should be capable of agreeing between us that only God can and
John,
I am sorry, you have used two terms
I am not familiar with.
Old Law
New Law
Are you saying that these terms are
Biblical? If so, please submit a
reference. Maybe you are talking
about covenants.
C. Tim Winkley
Aka Law Man
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I do
keep the Law?
C. Tim Winkley
Aka Law Man
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John,
I am sorry, you have used two terms I am not familiar with.
Old Law
New Law
Are you saying that these terms are Biblical? If so, please submit a reference. Maybe you are talking about c
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I am sorry in the last message you used the term Law, I understand covenant as used in this email.
The woman I sleep with most nights is both a wife and a mother. Two very different things. Same woman.
Izzy jumps back in in red! J
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John,
I
am
C. Tim Winkley wrote:
Brother
John,
Galatians
5:14 For all the law is
fulfilled in one word, even
in
this; Thou shalt love thy
neighbour as
thyself
Leviticus
19:18 Thou shalt not avenge,
nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou sh
Tim, did I miss your comment on my response post, giving you the scriptural references you requested :
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John,
I am sorry, you have used two terms I am not familiar with.
Old Law
New LawÂ
Are you say
Terry,
Perhaps
you should read the verse again.
Who else would your enemy be other than someone who “hateth thee”?
Exodus
23:5 If thou see the ass of
him that hateth thee lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him.
C.
Tim Winkl
Brother John,
My
responses in blue (you better duck)
And
you believe that as well, unless you are still butchering bulls and goats out
in your backyard.
No
need, my Christ, the Messiah said âit is finishedâ, which was foretold in the
Law many years prior.
Did
you forget the
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Brother John,
My responses in blue (you better duck)
And you believe that as well, unless you are still butchering bulls and goats out in your backyard.
No need, my Christ, the Messiah said âit
Izzy:Bless you for your God-motivated activity
(don't like activism). Keep it up sister.
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I am sorry in the last message you used the term Law, I
understand covenant as used
C. Tim Winkley wrote:
Terry,
Perhaps
you should read the verse again.
Who else would your enemy be other than someone who “hateth
thee”?
Exodus
23:5 If thou see the ass of
him that hateth thee lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear to help him, tho
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 06:38:27 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
One plan (Incarnation), one covenant (Abrahamic), one 'delivery system' (Grace) (Again I say read the paragraph prior to the 'deca
Tim
I am going to continue this discussion in spite of the nagging thought that we may be talking about much the same thing. . I mean - it appears that we might be using the same argument to arrive at two very different conclusions. Maybe we do not know enough about the others ultimate conclus
John wrote:
God has always been a God who honored outpouring and
contrition over obedience.
God wrote:
Matt 12:7; Mark 12:33] to obey
is better than sacrifice, And to
heed than the fat of rams.
Izzy
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One plan (Incarnation), one covenant (Abrahamic), one 'delivery system' (Grace) (Again I say read the paragraph prior to the 'decalogue") One Saviour (Jesus-God/Man, Incarnate, Israelite, Second Adam)
Again,
In a message dated 9/1/2004 8:10:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
God has always been a God who honored outpouring and contrition over obedience.
God wrote:
Matt 12:7; Mark 12:33] to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.
Izz
Correctamundo Johnmeister!!
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Correctamundo Johnmeister!!
Wheeewww.
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Correctamundo Johnmeister!!
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Jt:God is a Covenant God?? Again, in your own
words..what is a 'covenant God?'
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On Wed, 1 Sep 20
John wrote:
God has always been a God who honored outpouring and
contrition over obedience.
God
wrote:
Matt
12:7; Mark 12:33] to obey is
better than sacrifice, And to heed
than the fat of rams.
Izzy
Obey what? And please reconcile Ps 51:16-17 and Isa 58:9-11.Verses
Tim, How do you observe the Sabbath?
Please explain what you mean about the “Keep the Sabbath Holy” statement.
Thanks, Izzy
You asked if I observed the Sabbath. I sincerely
appreciate the way you phrased that question. The commandment states that we
are to “remember the S
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jt: Why do you ask for my words Lance when
God's Word is so much better?
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Jt:God is a Covenant God?? Again, in your own
words..what is a 'covenant God?'
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jt: I don't think he is trying to win anything John - His testimony as I understand it does not include denominational training. He reads the Bible. What he is saying here is what the Bible teaches.
js: All
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js: Again, much of what Tim and I are saying is mirrored thinking. In the end, he comes up with commandment keeping and I do not. All of the above is true. And God honored the notion of grace, His notion
ShieldsFamily wrote:
John
wrote:
God
has always been a God who honored outpouring and
contrition over obedience.
God
wrote:
Matt
12:7; Mark 12:33] to obey
is
better than sacrifice,
And to heed
than the fat of rams.
Izzy
Obey what? And
In a message dated 9/1/2004 2:28:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
God has always been a God who honored outpouring and contrition over obedience.
God wrote:
Matt 12:7; Mark 12:33] to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.
Izzy
Obey
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Tim, How do you observe the Sabbath? Please explain what you mean about the âKeep the Sabbath Holyâ statement. Thanks, Izzy
It has something to do with someone's mother.
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Tim, How do you observe
the Sabbath? Please explain what you mean about the “Keep the Sabbath Holy”
statement. Thanks, Izzy
You
asked if I observed the Sabbath. I sincerely appreciate the way you
ph
John, So do you still have a problem, or
what? Izzy
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Tim, How do you observe
the Sabbath? Please explain what you mean about the “Keep the Sabbath
Holy” statement. Thanks, Izzy
You asked if I
observed the Sabbath. I sincerely appreciate the way y
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One
plan (Incarnation), one covenant (Abrah
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John, So do you still have a problem, or what? Izzy
Its just that I asked "obey what" and you answered obey God rather than man --- I really do not see that as an aswer to my question. But, if you only s
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No one is saying that commandment keeping is out, certainly not me. None of these passages say that one is lost because he fails in his commandment keeping. None establish the Mosaical code. So if you agree with that , then case closed.. but I will make a few comments.
John
In a mes
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John, What is there to obey except Godâs commandments? Izzy
What commands? The Sabboth observance, Laws of cleanliness? etc. or love God and love your neighbor as yourself?
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jt: What you write to the list Lance sounds like
adherence to this great big historical fact, call it what you like but in it'
Iz:A title of some interest (you have it I
think)Sabbath by Abraham Joshua Heschel
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Tim, How do you
observ
o point in
engaging you further on such matters.
thanks,
Lance
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jt: Why do you ask for my words Lance when
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I rest from work and
purchasing for the most part. I
congregate with like-minded believers.
The issue is not the just the Sabbath however, the issue is Gods Law,
of which Sa
, lust for things, profanity, etc…
C. Tim Winkley
Aka Law Man
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and I to agree with you here.
Jonathan
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It seems to me Izzy, when someone
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It seems to me Izzy, when someone has a
misunderstanding of the beauty of God’s Law, we who love it are
immediately accused of trying to find legal justification for keeping it (which
gendere
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Iz:A title of some interest (you have it I think)Sabbath by
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John, What is there to obey except Godâs commandments? Izzy
What commands? The Sabboth observance, Laws of cleanliness? etc. or love God and love your neighbor as yourself?
We no longer have (or
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No
one is saying that commandment keeping is out, certainly not me.
None of these passages say that one is lost because he fails i
Tim -- I am saying that faith (the conviction that Jesus is the Son and His promises are mine), love (love God and love thy neightbor), and the Force of God within us constitute the "new" Law/Covenant."
Are you saying that Lev. 19:18 and Ex. 23:5 state fully the new covenant relationship? If
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You submitted these verses in defense of your argument that the Law has changed. I say your god changed. Mine does not, he is the same yesterday today and forever.
So He was just kidden when He spoke of
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