I am personally very sorry if you took offense, or thought that I meant
any by my comments. (I think I used one exlamation point.) I don't mean
any offense.
Perhaps it is simply a conflict of writing styles or one group being
overly sensitive, while the other is not sensitive enough. I would be
Thanks for the rebuttal. It really helped me focus my views on some
points. And I'll clarify a couple things...
> >I would also point out that we need not relinquish any right for the
> >good of the _economy_. I could give a rat's toe jam for the economy.
> >
> >
> You might next time you're in t
exercise of their power. But by and large, copyright is a good system
and shouldn't be dismissed without instating another system (such as a
patronage system) to meet the same needs.
How about reversing copyright to how it was in 1789 (or thereabouts)?
1. Copyrights must be applied for, giving
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 22:52 -0700, jb wrote:
> It would be easy for us to say, "Hey, those in authority thought it
> was
> best, we should be happy with it. They were just 'following policy'",
> but it could be *you* next time
In that case, I would suggest they go start their own club.
Really,
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 10:36:47PM -0700, jb wrote:
> Isn't it interesting that just this week, we were all making fun of
> BYUSA for their little election issues.
>
> It seems we need to take a good look in the mirror.
I'm not aware of any election issues in the UUG.
--
Andrew McNabb
http://w
Stuart, jb, please calm down. You guys are great. I honestly
appreciate your vigilance and concern. I think every single one of your
points was clearly made many, many, many posts ago.
However, your posts are inflammatory. You know that no one is out to
get you. You know perfectly well that e
Andrew McNabb wrote:
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 08:05:49PM -0700, Jared Lundell wrote:
At seemingly random times on a semi-regular basis I discover that my
processor usage hits 100% and stays there for several minutes even
though I am not doing anything major myself. A look at top showed that
r
Ross Werner wrote:
> Now, I agree with Stallman that Copyright shouldn't be entirely abolished
> (although I personally think that the computer industry would do just fine
> if it were). But I don't think that Copyright is a "natural right" or a
> property right, in that simply because I express so
[...] I'm not claiming that IP is a natural construct; it's obviously
man-made, but you can't assert that you have a natural right to every
idea ever concieved. That is just as man made of an idea as IP.
*All* property rights are man-made. IMHO, it's not that we have an
automatic right to eve
Stuart Jansen wrote:
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 21:48 -0700, Jamie Katherine Cummings wrote:
I think it's time someone outside the Presidency stood up for the
actions taken against Michael Halcrow. I will start by saying that I too
believed the action taken against Halcrow to have been unjust before
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 09:48:12PM -0700, Jamie Katherine Cummings wrote:
> That being said, now that we are aware of what the policy is perhaps we
> should take this incident and learn from it. This is perhaps the only
> Unix/Linux mailing list (other than our newbies section) in the world
> that
Isn't it interesting that just this week, we were all making fun of
BYUSA for their little election issues.
It seems we need to take a good look in the mirror.
--jeremy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hate being with the majority of you, but still, I'm moved to express my
opinion (given that it (m
Here's the links Jackson had in the mono presentation, also links to the
application he showed us and another SWF game. You'll need at least the
latest development release of Mono for it to work. Mono's website
(http://go-mono.com) has packages for fedora, SuSE, RHEL, and others.
Gentoo has it hard
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 21:48 -0700, Jamie Katherine Cummings wrote:
> I think it's time someone outside the Presidency stood up for the
> actions taken against Michael Halcrow. I will start by saying that I too
> believed the action taken against Halcrow to have been unjust before
> reading the post
I think it's time someone outside the Presidency stood up for the
actions taken against Michael Halcrow. I will start by saying that I too
believed the action taken against Halcrow to have been unjust before
reading the post from Andrew McNabb.
Before that post, I interpreted the messages of outr
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Chris Alvarez wrote:
> Still, nobody has ever in the whole history of the world put a
> semi-decent reason of why copyright take away someone's freedom. If
> you get a product, you KNEW before getting involved in the transaccion
> what the terms were.
Maybe we're talking past
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 08:05:49PM -0700, Jared Lundell wrote:
> At seemingly random times on a semi-regular basis I discover that my
> processor usage hits 100% and stays there for several minutes even
> though I am not doing anything major myself. A look at top showed that
> root was running
At seemingly random times on a semi-regular basis I discover that my
processor usage hits 100% and stays there for several minutes even
though I am not doing anything major myself. A look at top showed that
root was running prelink. I RTFM, but it seems strange to me that it
would need to run
Von Fugal wrote:
This is a very valid point. As has been mentioned, the government
"spends" the public's rights to further public good. The spending of
these rights buys creators profit. So why shouldn't we put a cap on how
much of profit creators can buy with our rights?
I like the economic pers
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:09 -0700, Alex Esplin wrote:
>
> does anyone know if this can be done?
I recently tried to assign new values to indexed colors in the newest
version of the gimp without success. So if you want to do it that way,
the answer is a tentative no.
--
Stuart Jansen
Hey,
does anyone know if this can be done?
Thanks
--
Alex Esplin
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uug.byu.edu/
The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their
author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-UUG.
> I didn't say that this right should ever be traded for some greater
> good. I just said it was a fundamental right.
I still can't see any evidence to sustain such a claim.
> I could give a rat's ass what your intention is. I am telling you
> that I have a right to copy. It is a moral belief
> Mike was treated unfairly. The actions against him were misgueded[sic] at
> best, cowardice at worst. Knowing the officers, it was the former. A
> brother is lost forever, and people are upset. A mistake was made, let
> us learn from it, and move on.
>
> Von Fugal
Well said, Brother Fugal.
I al
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 15:06 -0700, Andrew McNabb wrote:
If any of you read Michael's response, you can see a really bad attitude
("I'm willing to accept that I'm just not BYU-approved material"). I
think he likes to be a martyr (check the archives for the last time he
got in a huge fight and left
* Michael L Torrie [Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 13:32 -0700]
> Fortunately you
> dont' have to explicitly do anything; copyright is automatic. Free
> software is copyrighted. It is simply released with the added provision
> that certain freedoms are guarranteed to and certain responsibilities
> required
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> In times past (since before I was a UUG officer--check the list archives
> for November 2003), this was the same action taken, and the reason is
> that people that write offensive emails tend to do it several times in a
> row. We have to have a way to t
* Chris Alvarez [Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 12:53 -0700]
> > Some proprietary software writers, however, are going too far. They are
> > doing everything they can to outlaw/marginalize F/OSS. If they can't win
> > hearts and minds, but instead have to resort to laws and threats; if
> > their arguments are
I agree that ACLU sometimes stand for causes that I think are good.
These are so few that I still don't approve of ACLU as an oragnization.
I do visit the ACLU website periodicaly to see what the current hot topic is.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:55:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >I hate being with the majority of you, but still, I'm moved to express my
> >opinion (given that it (my opinion) is has the power to sway the masses.)
>
> >Ok, the banning thing -- what's up with that? Pretty lame. I don't think
> >tuxgirl would have banned what-his-face. Vote for tuxgirl!
>
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> This was not a decision made by any single person. It was made by
> elected officers of the UUG. This is not the first time Michael has
> made a stink, and we have had several complaints about his behavior on
> the list, including at least one person w
* Jason Holt [Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 19:06 +]
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:44:41 -0600
> From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [...]
> Subject: Kick-banned / last request
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:13:39AM -0700, Erin Sharmahd wrote:
> > A
>I hate being with the majority of you, but still, I'm moved to express my
>opinion (given that it (my opinion) is has the power to sway the masses.)
>Ok, the banning thing -- what's up with that? Pretty lame. I don't think
>tuxgirl would have banned what-his-face. Vote for tuxgirl!
sorry to disa
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 03:22:15PM -0700, Stuart Jansen wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 06:13 +0800, ?? wrote:
> > Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
> > information technology projects.
>
> If anyone deserves to be banned...
>
> That said, I wonder if the uug-
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 15:06 -0700, Andrew McNabb wrote:
> First, the decision was made among all of the officers, and was
> unanimous (this includes tuxgirl and all the rest, for those of you who
> are trying to turn this into a campaigning thread).
An official policy still needs to be created. I
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 06:13:31AM +0800, ?? wrote:
> Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
> information technology projects. It is convenient for small businesses
> as well as individual developers to get temporary help, consulting
> service and outsourcing serv
An interesting view, but I like to put it another way:
Copyright is an exchange between the society and the creator. The
society grants a time-limited protection in return for full rights to
the creation at the end of the protection. However, with today's
copyright lengths, the creators are gett
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:32:54PM -0700, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> > I completely disagree. I don't really like the ACLU, but I don't think
> > that you have to be "seriously confused about life" to be a member of
> > it. You just have to have different beliefs/priorities, but you don't
> > even hav
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:31:21AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > We are not really a campus only group (sssh, don't tell anyone). Many
> > of the people who regularly post to the list are no longer college
> > students.
>
> Can't we block them somehow? Gosh, if Microsoft can track email, we
* Michael Halcrow [Fri, 25 Mar 2005 at 11:22 -0600]
Thanks to Michael for keeping the representing the otherwise
unrepresented extremes. Really, thanks, you keep us thinking.
> > You might say that the artist already has millions of dollars, but
> > again, it is not your place to put a cap on wh
On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 06:13:31AM +0800, ?? wrote:
> Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
> information technology projects. It is convenient for small businesses
> as well as individual developers to get temporary help, consulting
> service and outsourcing serv
> Also, I am in no way siding with M$ (although I like and use several
> of their products). While a great advocate of free market (as much as
> I am an advocate of OSS), I do not condone monopoly. Monopolies and
> cartels go against the very foundations of free market. That is, free
> market means
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Corlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 15:38
>
> Everyone:
>
> I have been asked by my department to look into setting up a system
> to perform Internet content filtering with a proxy capability. I
> will be setting it up to mon
Everyone:
I have been asked by my department to look into setting up a system to
perform Internet content filtering with a proxy capability. I will
be setting it up to monitor our student labs which total consist of 80
computers. I have been looking at running Red Hat Fedora Core 3 on
a Dell Opti
> Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
> information technology projects. It is convenient for small businesses
> as well as individual developers to get temporary help, consulting
> service and outsourcing service from independent contractors around the
> world through
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 06:13 +0800, åç wrote:
> Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
> information technology projects.
If anyone deserves to be banned...
That said, I wonder if the uug-list has found it's way onto a spam list?
Might want to review all .cn and such a
Rent-A-Pro.com offers on demand staffing and service delivery for
information technology projects. It is convenient for small businesses
as well as individual developers to get temporary help, consulting
service and outsourcing service from independent contractors around the
world through our s
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Thank you for clarifying this.
Lloyd
Andrew McNabb wrote:
| On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:26:43PM -0700, Stuart Jansen wrote:
|
|> I know we joke about this being a dictatorship, but that was an
|> inappropriate decision. Micheal was a long time contributo
> How is unjust domination by the Microsoft empire any different?
...
> Stallman's drive for free software did not start out from simply not
> being able to "copy a printer driver." Rather he had a printer driver
> that wouldn't work with his chosen OS (whatever that was, hurd
> perhaps? ;) and
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:26:43PM -0700, Stuart Jansen wrote:
> I know we joke about this being a dictatorship, but that was an
> inappropriate decision. Micheal was a long time contributor with many
> interesting and useful things to say. Even if he hadn't been, a
> warning of some type would hav
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At the risk of sounding fickle, I'd have to agree here too. I will
admit that, if there was more going on behind the scenes, and I knew
about it, I would have to re-evaluate my opinion. Given the
information made public, though, my old opinion still h
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 02:09:01PM -0700, Lloyd Brown wrote:
> > Alright. I guess I can see that, but then why does the website still
> > list it? Why does it say in big, bold letters, "The UUG has 3 mailing
> > lists". I know it's just a detail, but perhaps the part of the page
> > that says
Laugh all you want, that really makes you look cool.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:57:11 -0700, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:27 -0700, Scott Paul Robertson wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:51:07AM -0800, Bryan Murdock wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:42:20
I am not that concerned about winning an argument. I am just showing
how seriosly flawed the anti-non-free-software attitude is. I don't
like it when people simply likes to make non-free software developer
or users feel like that they're unethical. I don't like most of
Richard Stallman's ideas. I g
Stuart Jansen wrote:
I know we joke about this being a dictatorship, but that was an
inappropriate decision.
I thought I'd throw in a contrarian point of view here. I run a rather
large message board, and we sometimes delete posts and/or ban people.
We usually just do temporary bans on posting,
I hate being with the majority of you, but still, I'm moved to express my
opinion (given that it (my opinion) is has the power to sway the masses.)
Ok, the banning thing -- what's up with that? Pretty lame. I don't think
tuxgirl would have banned what-his-face. Vote for tuxgirl!
seriously.
mrb
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 02:09:01PM -0700, Lloyd Brown wrote:
> Alright. I guess I can see that, but then why does the website still
> list it? Why does it say in big, bold letters, "The UUG has 3 mailing
> lists". I know it's just a detail, but perhaps the part of the page
> that says "This list
That is amazing. You yanked mhalcrow from the UUG list just like that?
Wow. I'm dumbfounded. Mike has been one of the biggest contributors to
this list and to the UUG itself. Of all the posts that fly through here,
his are the ones that catch my attention the most. If I don't have time to
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Alright. I guess I can see that, but then why does the website still
list it? Why does it say in big, bold letters, "The UUG has 3 mailing
lists". I know it's just a detail, but perhaps the part of the page
that says "This list is not currently avail
I also disagree, and I call upon the UUG officers to
a) make an official apology on-list and to Michael.
b) establish a few policies with regards to list removal
While normally against top-posting and not-trimming, I leave all this
in for Michael benefit.
Grant
On Mar 25, 2005, at 2:01 PM, jb wro
For the record, and in place of a discourse on the topic, I too disagree
with the ban.
--jeremy
Josh Coates wrote:
I could give a rat's ass what your intention is.
i assume this is the "swearing" michael did.
so in honor of michaels passing from the list, i will quote a verse from the
king
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:27 -0700, Scott Paul Robertson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:51:07AM -0800, Bryan Murdock wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:42:20 -0700, Chris Alvarez
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Please don't start a flame war on ACLU here, start another thread about
> > > i
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 01:39:47PM -0700, Lloyd Brown wrote:
> While I understand the value of the rather length and heated
> disussions that have been going on the last few days, it makes me
> wonder a bit. Isn't this what the "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (as in Freedom)"
> list's stated purpose is on the
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 13:39 -0700, Lloyd Brown wrote:
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> While I understand the value of the rather length and heated
> disussions that have been going on the last few days, it makes me
> wonder a bit. Isn't this what the "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (as i
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While I understand the value of the rather length and heated
disussions that have been going on the last few days, it makes me
wonder a bit. Isn't this what the "[EMAIL PROTECTED] (as in Freedom)"
list's stated purpose is on the UUG website? Why is th
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Perhaps this won't make any difference, but I too believe that this
banning was a little unwarranted. I *don't* approve of the language
Michael used, but shortly afterward Andrew posted a message that said
this:
| Okay, everybody. It's easy to get emo
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:53 -0700, Chris Alvarez wrote:
> I find it very insulting to compare Gandhi and Stallman. Gandhi was
> opposing oppresion in the form of laws and violence against the Indian
> people under injust dominion by the British Empire. Stallman's strive
> started out of simply bein
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:51:07AM -0800, Bryan Murdock wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:42:20 -0700, Chris Alvarez
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please don't start a flame war on ACLU here, start another thread about it.
>
> Agreed, you are mixing up all these different topics in one gmail
> co
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:26:43 -0700, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:06 +, Jason Holt wrote:
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:44:41 -0600
> > From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [...]
> > Subject: Kick-ban
>I could give a rat's ass what your intention is.
i assume this is the "swearing" michael did.
so in honor of michaels passing from the list, i will quote a verse from the
king james version of the bible:
Exodus 23:5
"If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and
would
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 11:31 -0700, Richard Esplin wrote:
> I hope you see the hypocrisy in the statement "Playing with rethorics[sic] is
> wrong". Rhetoric is the effective use of language. Everyone who uses language
> uses rhetoric. Some are better at it than others. Language is a tool, like a
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:56 -0700, Michael Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I 've got my server on a static IP now, and want to replace all
> instances of "homelinux.stuporglue.com" with "stuporglue.com" in my
> files.
>
> They are in a single folder and it's sub folders. There are no
> instanc
> Nope, I don't think he does. No where did he suggest that creators of
> proprietary software be punished by the government. He simply issues a
> call to action. Gandhi did the same. Was he being unreasonable when he
> asked the India people to stop working for a system that oppressed them?
> It's
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:42:20 -0700, Chris Alvarez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please don't start a flame war on ACLU here, start another thread about it.
Agreed, you are mixing up all these different topics in one gmail
conversation :-)
Bryan
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uu
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:59
> To: BYU Unix Users Group
> Subject: [uug] Sed replace in a buch of files
>
> I 've got my server on a static IP now, and want to replace all
> instances of "homelinux.stuporglue.com
Please don't start a flame war on ACLU here, start another thread about it.
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:38:02 -0700, Chris Alvarez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't ban Michael!!! Who's going to defend Richard Stallman now?
>
> Chris Alvarez
>
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uug.b
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> Would you financially support an organization that 99% of the time does
> something you are strongly opposed to? If yes, then you are confused about
> life, but for a different reason :-)
>
> If you financially support ACLU, you must agree with their cau
Don't ban Michael!!! Who's going to defend Richard Stallman now?
Chris Alvarez
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uug.byu.edu/
The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their
author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-UUG.
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:32 -0700, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> > I completely disagree. I don't really like the ACLU, but I don't think
> > that you have to be "seriously confused about life" to be a member of
> > it. You just have to have different beliefs/priorities, but you don't
> > even have t
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 12:26 -0700, Chris Alvarez wrote:
> I know that many members of the UUG work in the Windows platform. You
> guys should quit your jobs immediately.
>
> Here are some of Stallman's ideas (with some of my sarcasm included).
> Judge by yourselves whether he goes too far or not.
> I completely disagree. I don't really like the ACLU, but I don't think
> that you have to be "seriously confused about life" to be a member of
> it. You just have to have different beliefs/priorities, but you don't
> even have to agree with everything they do.
Would you financially support an o
Here are some extracts from an interview to Richard Stallman on
January of this year by Jeremy Andrews of KernelTrap.org, followed by
some comments of my own. Here is the link to the complete interview":
http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484
"JA: You regularly have to explain the differences between "fr
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 19:06 +, Jason Holt wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:44:41 -0600
> From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [...]
> Subject: Kick-banned / last request
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:13:39AM -0700, Erin Sharmahd wrote:
> >
> Michael:
>
> You can either wrap your sed command in a script, or just use MySQL
> command-line
> replace utility:
>
> replace homelinux. "" -- *.php
Thanks Sasha, that worked great.
Michael Moore
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uug.byu.edu/
The opinions expressed in thi
Michael:
You can either wrap your sed command in a script, or just use MySQL command-line
replace utility:
replace homelinux. "" -- *.php
--
Sasha Pachev
AskSasha Linux Consulting
http://www.asksasha.com
BYU Unix Users Group
http://uug.byu.edu/
The opinions expressed in th
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:44:41 -0600
From: Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]
Subject: Kick-banned / last request
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:13:39AM -0700, Erin Sharmahd wrote:
> At the request of the uug-officers, you have been removed and banned
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, Sasha Pachev wrote:
> while do good. But ACLU is one of a kind! I am yet to hear a report where
> ACLU stood up for something that was right, or failed to defend plain
> wickedness. Even the Communist Party of the Soviet Union does not have such
> a consistent record of fight
> I have heard a limited number of people in Utah make similar comments
> about members of the Democratic Party (that they must be out of their
> minds or bad members of the Church). I think that those sorts of
> comments are dumb.
Bleh, I think you can be a democrat and be a good member of the L
I 've got my server on a static IP now, and want to replace all
instances of "homelinux.stuporglue.com" with "stuporglue.com" in my
files.
They are in a single folder and it's sub folders. There are no
instances which I don't want to replace. Oh, and I made a backup.
If I do this:
$ sed s/homeli
On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 11:34:09AM -0700, Sasha Pachev wrote:
>
> A person would not be a member of ACLU without being seriously confused
> about life. While this does not mean they could not have some good ideas,
> it would be wise to take what they say with more than just one grain of
> salt.
On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Stuart Jansen wrote:
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 17:49 -0700, Grant Robinson wrote:
While many people have said "I don't want to
use software that is not free(libre)" and have hinted or outright said
that Apple should open-source more of their OS, I would say that there
is no
> Also, please respond to the following question. What on earth are you
> trying to say with this ACLU garbage? I don't like everything the ACLU
> does, but I don't think it's fair to assume that its members are serial
> killers. What does your bizarre variety of namecalling have to do with
> an
Some food for thought:
On Friday 25 March 2005 09:24, Chris Alvarez wrote:
> Hmm, I guess we are. We do the same with respect to the rest of our
> property ("I am appealing to the government to hold a gun to your head
> and force you to behave in a certain way with respect to dealing with
> my fa
> We are not really a campus only group (sssh, don't tell anyone). Many
> of the people who regularly post to the list are no longer college
> students.
Can't we block them somehow? Gosh, if Microsoft can track email, we ought
to be able to cut off the graduated leeches from our mailing list. Out
Okay, everybody. It's easy to get emotional in some of the more
political discussions. I'm glad where we have a forum where we can
share opinions.
However, I'd like to remind everyone that swearing is not something that
we can tolerate on the list. It's all fun and games until someone loses
an
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:08:08 -0500, oldtoker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks.. and it's been fun :)
> I didn't realize that you were a campus only group sorry :)
If you're interested in staying on the mailing list, there's no
problem with this. As has been noted in some of the 'election
campai
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:08:08 -0500, oldtoker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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got it
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> Thanks.. and it's been fun :)
> I didn't realize that you were a campus only group sorry :)
y
We are not really a campus only group (sssh, don't tell anyone). Many
of the people who regularly post to the list are no longer college
students.
Bryan
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:08:08 -0500, oldtoker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Thanks.. and it's been fun :)
I didn't realize that you were a campus only group sorry :)
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My thoughts on the Great O.S. De
> > I think that Open source software definitely has it's place. But I
> > also think that commercial software (be it libre or non-libre) has it's
> > place as well. If I had a killer app that had the potential to make me
> > a lot of money, I have to say that I would probably sell it, and I
> >
Everytime someone extolls the virtues of OSX, they say things like "it
*feels* polished" or, "I expect X to do Y". (See the original comment in
this thread for more examples.) Whenever someone advocates Linux, they
talk of the *feeling* of freedom. It reminds me of a great Slashdot sig
that sai
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