[Vo]:Peak oil

Hi, From http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2011/3198227.htm#transcript "Fatih Birol: No, what we have done is in the year 2008 we had a look at 800 oil fields on a field by field basis. It is the most detailed study ever carried out in the world, and we have seen that the decline rate,

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jed Rothwell wrote: > >It does not matter what the patent says. The larger cell is steel on the >outside. They will soon find out if it is steel on the inside as well. If it >is, > >we have a mystery. If it turns out to be copper, that will explain things. In >that event it will be surprising

[Vo]:Google Translation of Italian Interview is very good.

Google Translation of Italian Interview is very good. http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/04/nuova-intervista-di-mr-kilowatt.html > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:23:25 +0200 > From: shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: [Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst >

Re: [Vo]:The all-powerful NRC hypothesis

Jed wrote *As far as I know, the NRC has no such authority. Their role is spelled out here, and it does not mention anything like that:* * * *http://nrc.gov/* * * *This is not a James Bond outfit. Also, they have no powers to arrest people or enforce anything. The only thing they can do is c

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

From: Jed Rothwell * It is hard to compare improbabilities, but that sounds almost as improbable as copper transmuting as if it were inside a micro-super-nova, such that it comes out with the natural isotopes. OMG I going to be sick . with laughter. This is much better than SNL ever

Re: [Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst

As documented in the Cat-E patent, Rossi ash contains no element heavier the zinc. I have also looked at the waste documented in publically available spectrographs that have been produced by the Piantelli’s process and have not seen heavy elements there either. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:45 PM,

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: If that were true, then why did no Kullander say up front, “yes I know that > copper can migrate easily . . . > I cannot speak for him, but as far as I know copper *cannot* easily migrate through the walls of a stainless steel pressure vessel. A little might come through, but

RE: [Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst

From: Axil Axil If Zr were present in the catalyst, It would have been found in the ash. It has not. Have you analyzed the spectrographs in the patent for Zr lines ?

Re: [Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst

Hi Akira Shirakawa, "... It's possible that during preparation, which might also involve heat and vacuum, nanoparticles are also magnetically charged to make them tend to repel each other." Uh, so far all known magnets have two poles and attract each other, unless held in a lattice that confine

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

From: Jed Rothwell Do you realize how silly you are sounding on every incremental try - with this nonsense? * I know how improbable this is. I know it just as well as you do. So do E&K. However, unlike you, we will wait to see what the data reveals. No matter how improbable it may seem, it c

Re: [Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst

If Zr were present in the catalyst, It would have been found in the ash. It has not. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > Hello group, > > In a recent interview in italian by Radio24, Francesco Celani mentioned > that it is Yoshiaki Arata who first introduced in 2008 a few ve

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

wrote: > >I am certain > >that this means that the copper CANNOT be the result of a nuclear process. > > ..it could be if Rossi enhanced the Ni62/64 isotopes as he claims to have > done. > (however I must admit that I find Rossi's claim a bit far fetched.) > I find it far fetched too. But if he

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: > Ø but if it turns out the copper has natural isotopes and yet it is a > transmutation product . . . that will be a fact, and you will be wrong. > > > > Right … and if frogs grow wings they will not bump their butts on every > leap. > > > > Do you realize how silly you a

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >hmmm...If the copper results from migration rather than from transmutation the >contents of the reactor would weigh relatively more than you would expect from >transmutation. > >Harry That depends on what y

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

wrote: All your points are interesting, and as I said, I can see underground roads > being of some importance in large cities, and perhaps with time in smaller > cities too, however before they reach the point where the concept would be > extended to major continental highways, I think air transp

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Robin wrote: > In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:12:49 -0700: > Hi, > [snip] > >I am certain > >that this means that the copper CANNOT be the result of a nuclear process. > > ..it could be if Rossi enhanced the Ni62/64 isotopes as he claims to have done. > (however I

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

From: Jed Rothwell * but if it turns out the copper has natural isotopes and yet it is a transmutation product . . . that will be a fact, and you will be wrong. Right . and if frogs grow wings they will not bump their butts on every leap. Do you realize how silly you are sounding

RE: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

Jed sez: ... > ... We will have a billion robots sitting around anyway, > or 10 billion if we want. Why not put them to work? Until they all unionize! We Wisconsinites can probably supply those robots with some good tips. We're still working on our own collective bargaining matter. At present w

RE: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

>From Robin, Good detailed analysis. Thanks for the fiddley bits. Much to ponder there. ... > I always pass judgment on everything, don't you? :) As do I. I just try to keep'em to myself. Needless to say, I don't always succeed in that department. > Please don't take offence, none was intende

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetostriction and Cavitation ll

-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com The bottom line IMO is that we will just have to wait till more definitive and independent info becomes available. Robin, Exactamundo. This is precisely why I think that yesterday's announcement of NASA throwing its hat into the Ni-H ring is a

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:12:49 -0700: Hi, [snip] >I am certain >that this means that the copper CANNOT be the result of a nuclear process. ..it could be if Rossi enhanced the Ni62/64 isotopes as he claims to have done. (however I must admit that I find Rossi's clai

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: > JR. You are certain it is the truth that Kullander is senile? > > > > That is not what I said. I am certain that he claimed the Rossi reaction > was nuclear because an extraordinary amount of copper was found. > Here is what you said: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@e

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:01:26 -0400: Hi, [snip] All your points are interesting, and as I said, I can see underground roads being of some importance in large cities, and perhaps with time in smaller cities too, however before they reach the point where the concep

Re: [Vo]:Patience

This would not happen with a camel.

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetostriction and Cavitation ll

In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:37:20 -0400: Hi Fran, [snip] >Robin , > I made the mistake of starting from the bottom of the email replies - > your position that the ash is roughly proportional would have balanced Scott > Smith's position that there is far t

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

From: Jed Rothwell JB - I would never have guessed it would get to this on a forum which is supposed to be focused on finding the truth. Sad. JR. You are certain it is the truth that Kullander is senile? That is not what I said. I am certain that he claimed the Rossi reaction was nucl

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

Ya gotta read Jed's book about the chickens . . . http://www.lenr-canr.org/BookBlurb.htm

Re: [Vo]:Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"----Who?????

Hook, line and sinker . . .

[Vo]:Patience

Need: 3 scouts (one mule, one driver, one narrator) Two scouts enter (one on all fours if conditions allow) and move across stage as the skit proceeds. One is the mule and the other is the driver. A narrator stands just offstage. Narrator: "In the heat of the Mojave Desert, the mule driver pushes

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

wrote: > > >Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the > >future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap? > > ..because the same robots could still build a surface road cheaper (and > much > faster). > I discussed this in the book. Cost and speed are a fa

RE: [Vo]:Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"----Who?????

From: Wm. Scott Smith Subject: [Vo]:Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"Who? Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"Who? http://www.docstoc.com/docs/54760973/Thermoelectric-Generators---Patent-6620 994 :-)

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:50:24 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >"...where we're going we don't need roads" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BPxF1mLYFM :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

[Vo]:Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"----Who?????

Jones "If an inventor had Tellurium"Who? From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Restricted Munitions List & Raney Nickel, Guess Why! Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:20:45 -0700 From: Wm. Scott Smith Ø While we are on the subject, one

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: > > If he were still using copper, why would he say it is stainless steel? > > Duh! Of course he would lie about it. He does not want replication but does > like to be in the Media Spotlight, so he tries to act like he is being > forthright, on occasion. > Again, you are miss

Re: [Vo]:Restricted Munitions List & Raney Nickel, Guess Why!

In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:49:03 +1000: Hi, [snip] >In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:20:45 -0700: >Hi, >[snip] >>Yes indeed. And were you aware that there are only four elements in the >>periodic table which are heavier (in a.m.u.) than

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

- Original Message > From: "mix...@bigpond.com" mix...@bigpond.com > > However I don't think roads will ever be heated anyway, because I expect > "lifter" based air transport to "take off" in a big way, so roads may become > largely redundant. > ("lifters" are less energy efficient than

Re: [Vo]:Restricted Munitions List & Raney Nickel, Guess Why!

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:20:45 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Yes indeed. And were you aware that there are only four elements in the >periodic table which are heavier (in a.m.u.) than the next element above >them in the table? Which 4? Looking at average isotope mass, I can'

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the > future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap? Now we have all these silly ventilation requirements: CFMs, CO detectors, filtration, water pumps . . . gol

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:05:00 -0700: Hi, [snip] >Why would not some form of subsurface robotic tunneling for roads - in the >future history of cheap LANR power, be almost as cheap? ..because the same robots could still build a surface road cheaper (and much faster

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: > > JR: Anything might be human error. But noting changes on a weight scale > is easy. I do not think human error is likely in this instance. > > Given a well known corollary to "Murphy's Law" that the probability of an > error is inversely proportional to the assumed likeliho

RE: [Vo]:Restricted Munitions List & Raney Nickel, Guess Why!

From: Wm. Scott Smith * While we are on the subject, one could get the sort of heat they are talking about by accelerating the decay of isotopes that are not even very radioactive, normally. For example Thorium is many times less radioactive than U235 or Plutonium. Yes indeed. And were yo

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:00:21 +1000: Hi, [snip] >$12/lb). That would likely mean a considerable increase in economically >winnable >reserves, and I have no idea by how much. Note that if we could extract all the >Nickel from the top 1 km of the land then we

RE: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton >> I think putting roads underground is far too expensive, so I doubt that will happen either (except perhaps here and there in large cities). > As a former employee of Parsons Brinckerhoff, I agree, in the short term. However, there's the "Big Dig

[Vo]:Restricted Munitions List & Raney Nickel, Guess Why!

The US List of restricted items that are restricted for export, or even disclosing the details of manufacture includes Raney Nickel and similar substances. Fran & I have long speculated that weak radioactive elements can be made to decay much faster with substance containing many Casimir Caviti

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:16:51 -0500: Hi, [snip] >From Robin: > >>>(Water parks - turn them into >>>establishments that are open all year!), roads & sidewalks, >> >> Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known >> World Nickel reser

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:24 PM, wrote: > I think putting roads underground is far too expensive, so I doubt that will > happen either (except perhaps here and there in large cities). As a former employee of Parsons Brinckerhoff, I agree, in the short term. However, there's the "Big Dig". It

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell >> and Levi has not presented his notes about the beginning and ending weight - >> which could have been simply human error - but yet it is nevertheless >> reassuring that so little firm evidence can be presented in support of >> extraordinary clai

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:00:42 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I am hoping most roads will be put underground, and most commuting will >be shortened or eliminated with telecommunications and satellite offices >close to home. > I think putting roads underground is far too expe

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

>From Robin: >>(Water parks - turn them into >>establishments that are open all year!), roads & sidewalks, > > Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known > World Nickel reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100 > years *at our current rate of use*. If we start was

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Well, did you see Princess Beatrice's hat? Mercury can't possibly do that, even with Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter. It takes lysergic acid diethylamide. Thank you Albert Hofmann. T

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: and Levi's has not presented his notes about the beginning and ending weight - which could have been simply human error - but yet it is nevertheless reassuring that so little firm evidence can be presented in support of extraordinary claims? Anything might be human error.

Re: [Vo]:The all-powerful NRC hypothesis

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:35:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >If U233 and PU-239 can be produced by the Cat-E, the secret of the Cat-E >must be protected by the national espionage act and held as closely as any >other atomic secret. Any violation of that secret must be punished w

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Jones Beene wrote: used, but could not or was not willing to tell the pump model." His response was clear. He said Levi brought the pump and the rest of the stuff, and he does not know a thing about it. That's what he said on his blog, and what he told me. *I find that reassuring.* Do you real

Re: [Vo]:The all-powerful NRC hypothesis

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:35:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The Cat-E secret must be considered as* Born secret*" and "*born classified*". >Both terms which refer to a policy of information being classified from the >moment of its inception, usually regardless of where it was

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

mix...@bigpond.com wrote: However I don't think roads will ever be heated anyway, because I expect "lifter" based air transport to "take off" in a big way, so roads may become largely redundant. I am hoping most roads will be put underground, and most commuting will be shortened or eliminated

RE: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell > "Rossi was asked in January 2011 which type of pump was used, but could not or was not willing to tell the pump model." His response was clear. He said Levi brought the pump and the rest of the stuff, and he does not know a thing about it. That's

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Actually, that is a valid point. Of course it is! I'm not always joking. Well, did you see Princess Beatrice's hat? ROFLMAO! T <>

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:41:47 -0400: Hi, [snip] >On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:58 PM, wrote: > >> Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel >> reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100 years *at our >> current >> rat

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

Terry Blanton wrote: You keep ignoring the fact that with an ECat propulsion system, we can fetch water from comets and nickel from asteroids and get all the stuff we need. Actually, that is a valid point. When someone asked me about supplies of deuterium, I pointed out there is plenty in the

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

The message below that from Ekstrom says: "As the real water throughput was something around 0.6 * 12.1 = 7.3 l/hr, or 121 ml/min. . . ." That is incorrect. The real water throughput was 292 ml/min, according to the weight scale and the water collected in the liter cylinder. These people ma

Re: [Vo]:3 TVA Plants knocked offline by tornadoes

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > haha... > > hmmm ...actually the disaster at the Fukushima plant could have been prevented > if one reactor > was left running to temporarily power the all the plant's saftey backups. > Harry Yeah, well, that takes a plan, n'est-ce pas? T

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:58 PM, wrote: > Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel > reserves (140 million tons) are only going to last us 100 years *at our > current > rate of use*. If we start wasting energy on stupid things like heating roads > and > sidewal

Re: [Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

Angela Kemmler wrote: See this interesting discussion on a sceptic page in Sweden: http://www.e-catalyzer.se/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4#p11 It is a little hard for me to tell which section you are pointing to, but the part about the pump is incorrect. The flow rate was confirmed by leaving the re

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Angela Kemmler wrote: Here in Germany, almost nobody cares about Rossi and his claims. I don’t wonder: there is no published article in any scientific journal and the test results are not very consistent (see my new thread about the 12.4 kW claims). There were about a dozen bloggers reporting

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Actually that depends on whether the flow rate was measured with the device attached or not. Sure. I have seen that often enough with pond pumps. The thing is, I suppose any scientist would know that. As I said before, I am assuming these people are not stupid. But

[Vo]:Again on possible hints for Rossi's secret catalyst

Hello group, In a recent interview in italian by Radio24, Francesco Celani mentioned that it is Yoshiaki Arata who first introduced in 2008 a few very important innovations in LENR research in order to increase Pd-D reactivity in a dry reactor cell (not using electrolysis). (for the record,

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

I wrote: Even if you do not check the rate there is chance a variation in the the > flow rate could produce an error large enough to make 30 W look like 4,000 > W. > Oops. That should be ~300 W, not 30 W. It says: "The electric heater was switched on at 10:25, and the meter reading was 1.5 ampere

Re: [Vo]:3 TVA Plants knocked offline by tornadoes

haha... hmmm ...actually the disaster at the Fukushima plant could have been prevented if one reactor was left running to temporarily power the all the plant's saftey backups. Harry   - Original Message > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Fri, April 29, 201

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

In reply to OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:17:11 -0500: Hi, [snip] >(Water parks - turn them into >establishments that are open all year!), roads & sidewalks, Please don't advocate stupid wastes of energy. Current known World Nickel reserves (140 million tons) are

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:25:01 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I meant to say we agree this is beyond the limits of chemistry, but >there is NO chance the flow rate changed by a factor of 133 and no one >noticed. > >- Jed Actually that depends on whether the flow rate was me

[Vo]:The 12.4 kW claims of january 14 wrong?

See this interesting discussion on a sceptic page in Sweden: http://www.e-catalyzer.se/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4#p11 -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

Re: [Vo]:The all-powerful NRC hypothesis

Axil Axil wrote: It is a mistake to assume that government does the right thing in every > instance. > WHO assumes that?!? Do you also assume that Microsoft programs never fail? And that Wall Street has your best interests at heart? > Could the blind disbelief in the possibility that cold fus

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Citation It is blatantly obvious that there is an ongoing deliberate and orchestrated attempt to stop the public becoming aware of Rossi's E-Cat, which when you set it against the backdrop of the recent Fukoshima nuclear disaster, makes the media silence all the more stark... Here in

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:50:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] >. . . 0.11 gram hydrogen and 6 grams of nickel (assuming that we use one >proton for each nickel atom) are about sufficient to produce 24 MWh through >nuclear processes assuming that 8 MeV per reaction can be liber

Re: [Vo]:The all-powerful NRC hypothesis

It is a mistake to assume that government does the right thing in every instance. The concept “The government must have done that” cannot be assumed in every case. Could the blind disbelief in the possibility that cold fusion could be valid be so rampant throughout the science community within gove

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Replicated thousands of times?

Another example of the close correlation between control factors and performance can be seen on page 18 here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHcoldfusiona.pdf (Where it says, "Electrodes made from the same lot of materials (Pd) produce consistent levels of excess heat.") These are clea

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Across 4 Countries"

Jones Beene wrote: Their statement is either senile or idiotic, take your pick. Copper migration is well known, and no lucid physicist misses this point. Kullander misses it. Is he senile or stupid? I do not think that this much copper can migrate through stainless steel, so I doubt that c

RE: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Across 4 Countries"

From: Jed Rothwell Jones Beene wrote: I find it closer to delusional than conclusive. These two Swedes are acting more like cheer-leaders than top scientists. Kullander is 'emeritus' and could be approaching senility . . . > JR: In my opinion, such ad hominem comments are inappropriate fo

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Across 4 Countries"

You do not say anything about the numbers. Insulting the people without talking about the numbers is worthless, and makes you look like a troll and an imbecile. Is there something wrong with the numbers they mentioned? Can you show math saying it IS possible to do with chemical energy? Alexande

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Across 4 Countries"

Jones Beene wrote: I find it closer to delusional than conclusive. These two Swedes are acting more like cheer-leaders than top scientists. Kullander is 'emeritus' and could be approaching senility . . . In my opinion, such ad hominem comments are inappropriate for this forum. There is no

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

I meant to say we agree this is beyond the limits of chemistry, but there is NO chance the flow rate changed by a factor of 133 and no one noticed. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Mattia Rizzi wrote: It's conclusive that you cannot get 25 kWh from a 50cm3. Oops! I read that as 25 kW (power). I meant yes, you can get that kind of power from an electric heater and other sources We agree. You claim there was no 25 kWh. That's incorrect. They did check the water flow. T

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Are you reading me or not, jed? It's quite simple, jed. The statement " Any chemical process for producing 25 kWh from any fuel in a 50 cm3 container can be ruled out." is TRUE, but that is not the point! The point is: Are we sure that the E-Cat has produced 25 kWh of heat? NO! Why? Because the

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Mattia Rizzi wrote: It's conclusive that you cannot get 25 kWh from a 50cm3. You can get that much power density from an electric heater element in a water heater, or from a chemical source, or from fission. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion Replicated thousands of times?

peatbog wrote: > > > > Cold fusion > > has been replicated thousands of times in hundreds of labs > > Straighten me out here, but I thought that the replications were > one-off things that could not be reliably repeated, or the supposed OU from > them was so small that it could be written of

RE: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Across 4 Countries"

From: Jed Rothwell Mattia Rizzi wrote: >Cold fusion has been replicated thousands of times in hundreds of labs, and ***conclusively verified*** by people such as Levi and Kullander. You are too enthusiastic. Even Hanno Essén said (on Italian's Skeptics Society (CICAP) magazine (Quer

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

>Any chemical process for producing 25 kWh from any fuel in a 50 cm3 container >can be ruled out. The only alternative explanation is that there is some kind >of a nuclear process that gives rise to the measured energy production. That >sounds conclusive to me. It's conclusive that you cannot g

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

Terry Blanton wrote: Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW. If that were so, it would require 3 or 4 MW of raw heat. However, various on-line references indicate that modern locomotives are usually more powerful than this, ranging from 1.8 to 6 MW. See, for example: http://hypertex

[Vo]:Cold Fusion Replicated thousands of times?

> > Cold fusion > has been replicated thousands of times in hundreds of labs Straighten me out here, but I thought that the replications were one-off things that could not be reliably repeated, or the supposed OU from them was so small that it could be written off as error. What was compell

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

Mattia Rizzi wrote: > >Cold fusion has been replicated thousands of times in hundreds of labs, > and conclusively verified by people such as Levi and *Kullander*. > > You are too ethusiastic. > Even Hanno Essén said (on Italian's Skeptics Society (CICAP) magazine > (Query)) that the te

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

>Cold fusion has been replicated thousands of times in hundreds of labs, and >***conclusively verified*** by people such as Levi and Kullander. You are too ethusiastic. Even Hanno Essén said (on Italian's Skeptics Society (CICAP) magazine (Query)) that the test performed on March 29 was a PRELIM

Re: [Vo]:97 E-CATS in Operation at 4 sites

> Your typical locomotive engine is around 1 MW. It might be wise to skip the generation of electricity in the first wave of Rossi e-cat sales. Focus on the KISS principal. Simply focus on the economic advantages of cheap heat! Rossi-powered 1 MW furnaces might do very well if the goal is to show

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

peatbog wrote: > Why should the media mention it? I agree the mainstream media is not likely to mention a thing like this. They cannot distinguish it from a perpetual motion machine claim. > It hasn't been replicated, as far as we know, by independent testing labs; > nobody even knows how i

Re: [Vo]:3 TVA Plants knocked offline by tornadoes

On 04/28/2011 03:37 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/28/utilities-tva-storms-idUSN2718319320110428 > > All 3 Browns Ferry sites lost outside power and switched to diesel power. They're using DIESEL POWER to run them? Jeez, all these years and they STILL haven'

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, peatbog wrote: > > The single most important > > development in recent history and in a time of crisis, but it's > > not worthy of mention. > > Why should the media mention it? It hasn't been replicated, as far > as we know, by independent testing labs; nobody eve

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

> The single most important > development in recent history and in a time of crisis, but it's > not worthy of mention. Why should the media mention it? It hasn't been replicated, as far as we know, by independent testing labs; nobody even knows how it works or if it works reliably. Right now, it

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetostriction and Cavitation ll

Robin , I made the mistake of starting from the bottom of the email replies - your position that the ash is roughly proportional would have balanced Scott Smith's position that there is far too much ash for heat extracted - I made some assumption in my previous reply that were based on t

Re: [Vo]:Massive Rossi Claim: "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 Countries"

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: > > http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2011/04/97-e-cats-in-operation-right-now.html > > "97 E-Cats In Operation Right Now Accross 4 > Countries FRIDAY, APRIL 29

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetostriction and Cavitation ll

Robin, I agree thermal is the "primary" source of motion at our scale but ZPE is the "inexhaustible" source at any scale. Gas and Casimir geometry just happen to have properties we can use to exploit this inexhaustible source. The relativistic interpretation of Casimir effect means that the most

Re: [Vo]:ZPE Transmutation???

Harry, Joking or not I begin to see where Jones was going when he said the nuclear reaction may be an unavoidable consequence of ZPE / book balancing and perhaps where most of the radiation is going - the "hot Fusion" being a product of the absolute difference in energy between a deeply fractiona

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