Re: [Vo]:Re: Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From ecat builder: > There is NO evidence that Rossi's newer generation > E-Cats have ever or will ever explode. The concerns I've seen raised do not necessarily have anything to do with Rossi's reactor cores - whether they work or don't, or are likely to "explode". The concerns I've seen raised

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter Heckert & S. V. Johnson >> When I was still a BoD member for Krivit's NET >> organization his "sponser(s)", at least during the >> time when I was still a BoD, seemed pretty independently- >> minded to me. I could be wrong, but I doubt Krivit's >> sponsorship [I meant sponser(s)] would

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT forum appears to be open again

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Rich sez: > snafu -- from WWII, "Situation normal -- all *ucked up" I should say something snarky like "Thank you so much for expressing your opinion, Mr. Murray." but the truth of the matter is that I have endeavored to express my own opinions as well. Therefore I should let live. And of course

Re: [Vo]:Regarding Rossi and NASA (+ some Piantelli news)

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry seZ: ... > Krivit is certainly causing a reaction within Rossi.  AAMOF, it > appears to me that AR is on the verge of a meltdown. > > Do you notice a hint of desperation in AR's writings of late? LOL. I completely missed the original joke. ...er the joke is on me. Regards Steven Vincent J

Re: [Vo]:Some personal thoughts on NET & Krivit

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From MoB: ... > This appears to me definitely as a one-sided "news report", which in my > opinion discredits Krivit as an unbiased objective reporter regarding the > Rossi saga. > Or as they say what goes around comes around. You express one of my concerns. I refer you to to my previous unsoli

Re: [Vo]:Some personal thoughts on NET & Krivit

2011-09-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jouni sez: ... > And it did not cross into Krivit's mind that perhaps, > Rossi had some awkward motivation to present him a > dummy demonstration? Good grief! You actually wrote that as speculation about Krivit's motivations? You're obviously not a cynic! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www

[Vo]:The 7 Stages of Robot Replacement

2011-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2011/09/the_7_stages_of.php This guy probably has a future! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Plug-in hybrid Prius announced

2011-09-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > Toyota announced a plug-in previous hybrid car will be available nationwide > starting January 1, 2012. The base price is around $32,000. Battery range is > "greater than" 20 km. I assume you meant to say "Prius" whereas Dragon interpreted your dictation as "previous". Somehow a $32

Re: [Vo]:prediction for the Oct 6 Fat Cat demo

2011-10-05 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hi Peter, FWIW, it's been my experience that the universe seldom conforms to my anticipated calendar of events. She has a mind of her own. I do my best to remember that, particularly when I begin to notice the fact that I seem to be anticipating yet another major event coming down the pipeline.

[Vo]:WIRED: Cold fusion rears its head as 'E-Cat' research promises to change the world

2011-10-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/06/e-cat-cold-fusion Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:WIRED: Cold fusion rears its head as 'E-Cat' research promises to change the world

2011-10-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/06/e-cat-cold-fusion Mr. Krivit is quoted. Final paragraphs: > There is some irony at work here: we apparently have a number of mainstream > scientists backing an outlandish project which investors are putting money > into, > while the most vocal cr

Re: [Vo]:Raymond Zreick tweets translated by Google

2011-10-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
MoB sez: ... > Ok, so now the question becomes how many eMice does an eCat need to catch to > produce 3.5 kW of heat ;-) I should ask my cat, Zoey. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Raymond Zreick tweets translated by Google

2011-10-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
MoB sez: >> >> I should ask my cat, Zoey. > > Couldn't you ask Charm as well? You're right. I could. However I'll probably get a different answer. ;-) Then I'll have to determine who is telling the truth and who is lying. Don't want to go there. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWork

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik report on October 6th test

2011-10-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Frank sez: > Now that Jed has told me my utility pension is at risk and I have > vested interests.   I will have to agree there is probably something > wrong with the tests.  Perhaps a laser was heating it from the > ceiling? "...will have to agree" I can't tell if Frank is being serious or

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Defkkalion, of particular interest: > Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7. > We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing. > We were confused why our old designs were implemented wrongly, > as well as witnessing insufficient use of instruments and > testing

Re: [Vo]:Rossi T2 and Pout Charts

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: > Mysterious RF oscillators with undocumented connections > and functions add so much interest to the question of > How It Works > > Has Rossi become the New Ron Stiffler? I'm inclined to think that Stephen's speculation is probably unwarranted in this particular case. As I und

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Joe Catania: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Joe Catania wrote: > Newton's Law is irrelevant. Your the type of buffoon who believes that since > there's an Ohms LAw every conductor obeys it. The temperature "law" the > e-cat obeys is ostensibly written in the temperature data if we can co

Re: [Vo]:OT - Sunday's Sermon: Peace-Of-MInd

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > You guys need to get a room.  ;-) Sorry. I guess I'm too much of an exhibitionist. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mark: > DGT wrote: > "We were surprised to see our old designs used in public testing." > > and > > "We also identified confidential (yet shown in public) special instruments > designed in collaboration with Rossi and prepared by Defkalion." > > I feel a lawsuit coming on! Yeah, perhaps so

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Press Release 10/10

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Robert: > More like a gun to the head - ie we think we can extract > legal remedies for your revelation of our confidential > materials unless you come to an agreement with us, (and > we know you are running out of money and time while we can > pay for lots of lawyers that will waste all of

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Congratulations, Mr. Catania. Further posts from you will be routed to my block list. I'm sure you could care less. I guess the feeling is mutual. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Look at the BIG PICTURE and you will see this is irrefutable proof

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: ... >> I'm sure you could care less. > > whisper:  ". . . not care less" > > Really? I wuz never good at grammar. Grammatically speaking I always thought it is better form to avoid cluttering up one's literary intent with the use of double negatives. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Rossi on the placement of the thermocouple and other issues.

2011-10-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Rossi sez: ... > A SNAKE HAS WRITTEN THAT INSEDE THE E-CAT THERE WAS DIESEL OIL TO BE > BURNT………JUST LOOK AT THE WEIGHTS: AT THE END OF THE OPERATION THE > E-CAT WEIGHTED SOME GRAM MORE THAT BEFORE THE OPERATION…. Diesel oil??? Good grief! Who wuz suggesting that? BTW, I luv reading Rossi's bro

Re: [Vo]:Please stop making unsupported, physically impossible assertions about stored heat

2011-10-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Hollins: > jed, if the power were used to, say, run a thermoelectric heat pump, > cooling one side of the pump, and heating something that was > otherwise internally insulated, then heat WOULD go up after power > is removed. (Just saying, if I were going to fake something, that's > what I'd

Re: [Vo]:FW: Mills CIHT Published World Patent Application

2011-10-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Hi Mark, Permission to vent granted. Let me reciprocate with a few fissures of my own. Mill's & BLP have often been criticized for giving the appearance of going off in too many directions, and as such, depleting their limited resources. To be honest I don't know how justified such complaints re

Re: [Vo]:Need a break

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Horace sez: > I need to take a break from this for a while. Snow line is coming down the > mountains. > Enjoy the encroaching sno, Horace! Have you purchased your season pass to the slopes? Come back for another round of carefully calculated skepticism at your convenience. ;-) Regards Steven V

Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b. Hi Bog, I've said my peace. I guess one could say I've had my cup'o'java. However, in regards to your request. No. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stremmenos from Defkalion GT

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Very interesting letter indeed. Regarding the following excerpt: > In all such cases, had there been close cooperation with > Defkalion to develop the technology together, as opposed > to focusing and putting pressure on us to receive money, > many of these unfortunate legal and technical > misun

Re: [Vo]:OT: "Pendulum Waves"

2011-10-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry, Robert, I Googled "lissajous patterns" in my on-going efforts to educate myself. In the midst of learning about these interesting oscillating patterns I came across an obscure web site managed by an independent inventor named Jed Margolin. I stumbled across his web site because Mr. Margolil

Re: [Vo]:Krivit report on Oct. 6 Rossi test

2011-10-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Regarding Mr. Krivit's Oct. 10 installment: It's a good example of what I mean when I have described Mr. Krivit as being a cynic at heart. Being a cynic is neither good, nor bad. It is how one uses their innate sense of "cynicism" in order to get to the bottom of a tantalizing mystery that determi

Re: [Vo]: Dennis Ritchie passes

2011-10-13 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
What I wunder about is whether the process is enclosed in an infinite loop... For (;;) { // Oh no! Not again! } Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Driscoll, > Rossi has done test after test poorly... Indeed, there are many will agree with this observation. > ...for a reason - when will people understand this? What needs to be understood is indeed the 64 trillion dollar question - or perhaps 64 cents. Take your pick. What I've n

Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stemmenos from Defkalion GT

2011-10-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Understanding the underlying economics of how many consumer products (like the iPad) are manufactured is going to be a difficult and soul-searching process for most Americans. This probably goes for the entire developed world as well. As is becoming obvious to most of us that care to dig a little

[Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon

2011-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Mostly speculative http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/ Mostly harmless. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon

2011-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Mostly speculative > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/17/hello-cheap-energy-hello-brave-new-world/ > > Mostly harmless. http://www.singularity.com/charts/page50.html On a related point, and after following a few links, the author, Mark Gibss, points the reader to an interesting w

Re: [Vo]:Forbes weighs in on the controversial Rossi's eCat phenomenon

2011-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Mark Gibbs' article in "Network World" http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2011/101411-backspin.html?page=3 ...ends with: ... > It remains to be seen whether this is really all some > kind of mistake, which seems unlikely, or a hoax, which > seems equally implausible because, if it is all bo

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Robert, You state: > You [Mr. Rothwell] may disagree, and now be 100% convinced, but it's your > personal attacks that are troubling. Where has Mr. Rothwell attacked you personally? As far as I can tell Mr. Rothwell has attacked your opinions - some of the conclusions and speculations you have

Re: [Vo]:Why has Rossi to build a 1MW plant?

2011-10-17 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter: > He always said he /has/ to build a 1 MW plant. > Why /had/ he to do this, when he had no written > contract? The only explanation I can think about, is, he has to > do this because he already purchased the material (without having > a contract to sell it). Maybe he got the boxes in

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Rich sez: > Wolf!  Wolf! wolf? wolf... WOOF! WOOF!  WOOF! Technically speaking, wolves don't "woof", or bark. They howl. It is theorized that dogs acquired the unique barking characteristic as a result of thousands of years of acclimating to a cooperative symbiotic relationship with human beings

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> If wolves don't say 'Woof! Woof!', then why are they called wolves? > > They bark.  See here: > > http://www.wolfcountry.net/WolfSounds.html > > under "Yipping". Well whatdya know. I stand corrected! Those "yipping" sounds sound pretty much like barking to me. Mr. Murry and his "b

Re: [Vo]:The style is the man himself.

2011-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Robert Leguillon > Mr. Rothwell never attacked me personally. He merely labeled > all remaining skeptics as ignorant/blind/foolish/etc. I think > that there is still room to question the results, and I'm > certainly not the only one. I think that the ad hominems can > stifle open communicati

Re: [Vo]:Is Rossi's 1MW demo supposed to output "steam", or just hot water under 100 C?

2011-10-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: >> On a related topic I have also been under the impression >> that Rossi was NOT planning on producing steam as the final >> output product - only hot water below the temperature of 100 C. > That is what he said months ago. Evidently he changed his mind. > > It would be rather challen

[Vo]:Forbes: Mark Gibbs of Forbes follows up with a new "Rossi" article

2011-10-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Again, mostly harmless. Even a little amusing. ;-) http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/10/19/end-of-world-nigh-cf-demo-could-be-postponed/ Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Forbes: Mark Gibbs of Forbes follows up with a new "Rossi" article

2011-10-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> Again, mostly harmless. > > How many strikes does one get in this ball game? I'll get back to you AFTER tomorrow. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > Well, is so, it is well hidden.  I went here: > > http://www.cedirectory.com/content/ce-products.php > > and opened a free buyer's account and have been searching products and > company names all morning.  I can find no indication that his product > has a CE certification. > > Yes,

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter: > How can you obtain a CE certification for a product > just assembled, not tested thoroughly, based on an unknown > reaction, not characterized- singular? > Bureaucracy has its raison d'etre. Methinks Rossi has some X'plaing to do. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

[Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Andrea Rossi October 24th, 2011 at 5:08 AM Dear A. Goumy: 1- yes 2- We will work together. They have been trained 3- yes Warm Regards, A.R. A. Goumy October 24th, 2011 at 1:05 AM --- Dear Mr Rossi, It is now the run-up to the moment of truth. I wish y

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Rich: > Well, I want it to be true! I hear you Rich. I hope it's true too. However, with Rossi, who knows. It may be a matter of interpretation. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Let us think of Rossi in terms of how he would fit into the great works of > literature and drama. Think of the role that would best fit his > larger-than-life persona. Merlin? Prospero? John Galt? > No, Rossi is playing the Road Runner, and the rest of us, collectively, are > playing W

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

2011-10-24 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
In fine print, under the directions section, pertaining to one of Wile E's special ACME orders for paint: "Do not attempt to create the illusion of a tunnel." Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he has a European "CE mark"

2011-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> About the promised videos I think is not a big deal to hire a bounch of fine > dressed guys, smiling and shacking hands after the big success of the > demonstration. > Somebody, passing nearby of his showroom have spotted some worker (super > mario bros ?) quite busy probably staging the One-Mega

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: 1MW prototype has already been tested at full power

2011-10-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Murray, > …notable for 22 years is that not a single lab can > replicate their own research to reliably demonstrate > an anomaly This means cloning and in vitro fertilization must be quack science as well. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Observers at the October 6th demo.

2011-10-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Sean: > It's not scientific, but I've been digging into the people listed as > attending the Ross ECat demo on October 6th ...and an interesting list of characters it is. Thanks Sean. Of particular interest to us Americanskian's > Paul D Swanson, SPAWAR/DARPA I wonder what Mr. Swanso

Re: [Vo]:movin and gorven now

2011-10-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Frank sez: > I would also like a nice woman instead of this cat who keep jumping on my > laptop keyboard. While we are tweeting... Make sure she isn't allergic to cats. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's customer

2011-10-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
My two cents: I don't doubt most of Jed's assessments and the subsequent concerns he has voiced concerning Rossi's approach. Some of the issues that have made this so frustrating for most of us has been the fact that (one) we really don't know what's going on, and (two) who is this allegedly well-

[Vo]:Speculation - Another theory that might explain the anomalous heat.

2011-10-27 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
The following is pure speculation on my part: Is it possible that the anomalous heat recorded in Rossi's eCats has nothing to do with a nuclear reaction - and particularly as having anything to do with the nucleus of nickel. I'm wondering if it possible that the anomalous heat is actually due to

Re: RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO

2011-10-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Peter: ... > We have this already seen many times. > There is definitely excess energy. > Especially after the Kullander Essen Demo it was very clear that > the input energy was too low to heat the water. > > But we also have seen errors in measurement that reduce the amout > of energy and

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
When a new batch of books soon to be published documenting the contentious history of Cold Fusion comes out, on the front cover of one of these books will be a photo of a coffee machine... perhaps with a modified eCat on top. A few insiders will get it. Most probably won't. Regards Steven Vincent

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry Sez: >> What did I miss? > My acerbic sense of humor. Heh! Specifically meant for Mr. Murray's benefit? Sorry, Mongo still a little cunfuz'd on this point. (He lost his box of candy in all the excitement.) Mongo want's to know who's currently in possession of the eCat. Cuz... maybe that

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > No idea. Thank-u Jed, It's back to the candy store for Mongo. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: ... > Personally, I don't think he trucked it off since it would have taken > hours to un-plumb it.  Not to mention that a number of the little > kittens resided on the roof of the container. And as all cat owners, of the biological configuration know, they will seek out warmth. So, i

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: >> If there is someone in Bologna who could snoop around the Rossi >> building and send us some intel, that would be fantastic. > > Someone who is registered on his web log could just ask (except Jed :-). A famous quote from Animal House comes to mind: Dean Vernon Wormer: "Put Neiderm

Re: [Vo]:Mats Lewan on Steam Quality

2011-11-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: > (Terry, what are you talking about?  Sometimes I think I understand your > posts but this isn't one of them.) I believe the honorable Mr. Blanton was being sarcastic. ;-) To be honest, I wasn't sure at first as well. My excuse was that I had been highly distracted for the past c

Re: [Vo]:Mars Transport System

2011-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
The conjecture I've heard speculates that billions of years ago. Yes... not millions... but BILLIONS of years ago, when mars was significantly younger, the atmosphere may have been a lot thicker than that it is today. More atmospheric pressure in turn would have allowed liquid water to remain on th

Re: [Vo]:Pipe diameter October 28 - new considerations

2011-11-03 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Following up on Jed's comments: Conjecture that Rossi has been, in a sense, indirectly obfuscating some of his own results - as if to throw the bloodhounds off of his scent trail has been discussed to some extent within the Vort Collective. I suspect there is some merit to such conjecture. It's a

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: >> Eh? This will make it impossible to verify that the anything was given to >> anybody, and we'll just have to take Rossi's word for it, right? > > Or we can not take his word, and put this subject aside. This has no bearing > at all on cold fusion. What Rossi does with his money is nobo

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > I see no point in speculating about people's private lives. Oh, Jed! You're such a fuddi-duddy! ;-) Sometimes I suspect that half of our nation's economy is powered by the generated methane of speculation and innuendo, as revealed at the checkout counter of every grocery store.

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Goodness gracious me! It would seem that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything to argue about. Guess there isn't any NEW news on the Rossi/eCat front. This "yes, you did!" - "No, I didn't" tit-for-tat scenario would seem from my perspective to be degenerating into another grocer

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Tery sez: > Where IS the money.  I want to SEE the money.  Did Rossi get paid? I bet Rossi hasn't been paid... not yet. I just betcha! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Klaatu Barada Nikto

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Harry: > Didn't Rossi say he was going to reveal his theory around this time? What Rossi sez he's going to do... What Rossi sez he's going to sez... What Rossi sez he didn't sez... I think I' just wrote a badly written poem. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.c

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Susan, > An essential requirement to tell credible lies is to have a very good memory > ... > or at least to keep well up to date record of old claims and check it before > writing ... > Who do recall Pinocchio and his wodden nose getting longer and longer ? "credible lies" ? Where are you

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi: NO MORE TESTS and other stuff (revisited)

2011-11-07 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: > Rossi wrote: > >> 3 - big problem: the patent I have not been >> recognized outside Italy and the theory would >> reveal much. > > This confirms what I have suspected for a long time. Rossi's biggest > problem is that he does not have viable intellectual property protection. > He is flo

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat / philosophical remarks

2011-11-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Robert Lynn > The problem is that it is easy to come up with fraudulent methods > that could have delivered the observed demo results. Add to > which Rossi has had no end of opportunities to remove all doubt, > at no extra cost in effort or materials, and without danger of > loss of IP, but

[Vo]:PESN - Oct 8: Steorn Announces HephaHeat Oveurnity Technology

2011-11-08 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://pesn.com/2011/11/08/9601951_Steorn_Announces_HephaHeat_Oveurnity_Technology/ Excerpt: Steorn, the Dublin, Ireland based free energy company, has announced their latest overunity technology that they have named "HephaHeat." The technology produces excess energy in the form of heat, by utili

Re: [Vo]:Krivit names some Rossi "customer" names

2011-11-09 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I think Krivit's "New Energy Times" web site name should be renamed to something like "Krivit Investigates", or something to that effect. A title like "Krivit Investigates" would be a much more accurate description of what it actually is that Mr. Krivit performs. It would also be a more honorable p

Re: [Vo]:Physorg comments : new Krivit Crusade

2011-11-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Regarding Rossi, there are obviously many answered questions that remain that could either scientifically verify or refute his extraordinary claims. I don't know whether Rossi is a SCAM artist or whether he is the real deal. Let me repeat that: I DON'T KNOW!!! Granted, I have my suspicions... I su

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry: > Can't be sure of what we are seeing; but, it could be a Rossi-type > Reactor.  Good to see they are working in stainless steel instead > of copper. I agree. Makes me wonder if DGT has had a chance to notice any unexpected isotopic shifts. Actually, DGT might not yet have had enough

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion : first pictures of their lab released.

2011-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Terry, > Should I sent SK a link to the press release?   Certainly! Investigative reporters should always endeavor to read the latest reports regardless of their origins. ...shouldn't they??? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Chinese Nazca?

2011-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: > What the heck is this? > > http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.452107,93.742118&hl=de&ll=40.447764,93.744299&spn=0.005201,0.010107&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=6&z=17 Good Grief! The Chinese invented Duct Tape too Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:a modest proposal

2011-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: ... > Many skeptics do not seem to understand this distinction. They look at the > factors a college instructor would cite in grading an lab exercise: > neatness, correct use of instruments, documentation, exposition, positioning > of thermocouples, and other did-you-follow-the-textboo

Re: [Vo]:Interesting post on 22passi.blogspot.com

2011-11-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Page: > Interesting post on 22passi.blogspot.com Indeed, it's an interesting post about what "N" would seem to stand for. However, at present information of this sort, particularly from anonymous posters possesses no credibility whatsoever. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.co

Re: [Vo]:When faced with reality

2011-11-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Let me repeat that I started this thread to discern what might have been reported from ardent skeptics AFTER it had been determined beyond reasonable doubt that the Wright Brothers [Sorry about that blatant misspelling of "Wright" with "Right" in my original post... Hadn't had my cup'o'Java.] had s

Re: [Vo]:Steorn's HephaHeat Eclipses Rossi's ECat

2011-11-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jwinter: ... > But still Rossi's device does get the higher end - right up over a > megawatt.  And it's market ready. Well, I must confess a personal opinion that I suspect Steorn is not dead yet! ;-) However, regarding Rossi's ecats. Assuming one of the most positive Polly-Anna scenario

Re: [Vo]:its been great

2011-11-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Stephen: ... > Actually I've found Joshua's comments to be occasionally quite insightful. >  Furthermore, in his more recent posts he's generally dropped, suppressed, > or anyway mostly not mentioned his global anti-LENR stance, and stuck pretty > closely to the topic of Rossi, which makes

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

2011-11-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Akira: > Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This > time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: > > http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk > >From Josephson: ... > It appears that the UK Department of Energy and > Climate Change (DEC

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

2011-11-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Daniel: > Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses > Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking > his word is really, really bad for his business... IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations who be

Re: [Vo]:New LENR Patent Appl: Method for Producing Heavy Electrons

2011-11-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I sed: >> IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed >> a few select corporations who believe in his technology >> he would give a fart about trying to appease the >> scientific establishment. Jed sed: > He never did a fart about that. If he has customers, > all the more reason to ignore s

Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)

2011-11-21 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... > Still, [Rossi] appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of things > right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was the stuff > of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard > Business School. Grad School Course: "Rossi Busine

Re: [Vo]:Rossi & Defkalion & 4 possibilities

2011-11-22 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
What was Stremmenos implying when he sed: >> "The poor's lamb can't become a ram". >From Akira: ... > Probably that, according to Stremmenos, Defkalion GT don't > have the resources (not necessarily economic) to develop an > idea into something big and workable as Rossi is supposedly > doing. IM

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announcement

2011-11-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Ledin: > Defkalion GT ... > You all are kindly ask not to confuse our Hyperion technology with > others’ (eg.ecat). We are not willing to answer any questions > pertaining to third party initiatives in LENR. We have made our own > progress, both on technical and business matters. So we wil

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

2011-11-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
A former girlfriend of mine, for which I'm happy to say I'm still on good terms with, has a rated IQ of 150 or higher. Don't ever play a game of GO with her. You will be humiliated. She cannot tell her right hand from her left without manually taking the effort of looking at them. Regards Steven

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: ... > Why did Rossi even go? What was he thinking? > He does at least make it clear that he cannot reveal anything about this > because he has no patent. He does not actually say "I do not want widespread > publicity because I have no patent -- I want to cash in while I can" but I > am

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed > ... Maybe there is more to it. I just heard this in a 5-minute phone call. > Summary: He said the same stuff he has been saying all along in his blog > and in the magazines. > Well, at least he is consistent. IMHO, (and granted it might be an incorrect opinion) I can't help but specu

Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

2011-11-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Thanks Jouni, Excerpt: "Rossi said he would also like to develop small household cold fusion power generators in Massachusetts. "I'm already planning to come back soon," [Rossi] said, "We are hoping to get something started in a matter of weeks, not months." * * * * Looks to me as if Rossi is

Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

2011-11-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
orionworks sez: ... > ... looking like the personification of God > Almighty himself (circa Old Testament) Akshully, the more I think of it, I suspect Randi is trying to emulate the Darwin look. http://www.lucidcafe.com/library/96feb/darwin.html Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.co

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion

2011-11-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
FWIW I would recommend if at all possible trying to find a place of neutrality on the Rossi/Defkalion matter. In my view, there is too much rampant anticipation going on - and that's not a good thing. Inevitably, unbridled anticipation tends to generate profound disappointment when the anticipated

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

2011-11-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Ahsoka, > Unbeknownst to the cold fusion enthusiasts, Rossi is really doing a > phenomenological study on the perception and judgement of those who > believe in in LENR. ... Assuming you're serious, and that Rossi's entire eCat endeavor has been nothing more than a phenomenological study o

Re: [Vo]:Virtual Particles are Gravitational Dipoles

2011-11-29 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Gee wiz! I sed something sort of like this about three to six months ago in the Vort Collective. However, I'm sure what I said was stated much more crudely. I recall conjecturing that the aggregate "mass" existence of all those fleeting virtual particles could possibly in themselves contribute to

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Prepares

2011-11-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water? What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that yet. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Prepares

2011-11-30 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Orionworks sez: > Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water? > > What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that > yet. Let me clarify. It sez it's for Domestic or Building, Agricultural and Industrial uses. It looks to me like it's

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