Re: [Gendergap] Emails to friends, lists to encourage participation

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:32 PM, carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: One thing we can all do is send letters of encouragement to women to join wikipedia. I don't know if there is a form letter already used that we can merge ideas like the below into. This is includes and expands on points I

Re: [Gendergap] Emails to friends, lists to encourage participation

Whoops. I just re-read Carol's message -- I had misunderstood at first. If this is an effort to recruit *brand new* contributors (as opposed to retaining those who have dabbled), the research I cited above doesn't really apply :) But, I do think the findings of the Wikipedia Public Policy

Re: [Gendergap] Emails to friends, lists to encourage participation

On Feb 22, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Birgitte SB wrote: People need to be sent to work on their passions with their personal strengths, not just told in a blanket fashion to write some articles. Birgitte SB This all sounds like a pretty sound approach to me. I like it. Another worthwhile thing,

Re: [Gendergap] Helping get a female sport article to GA article status

Good observation, Kath. I've been wondering whether to point out this detail -- the phrase good article review has been used a little inaccurately in this discussion. A good article assessment is what Laura is currently going through, as distinct from a good article review (what Kath has just

Re: [Gendergap] Advice for BLP situation (possibly off-topic)

Hi Deanna, This is a great question, and something that comes up a lot. There's lots that can be said, but I think the best piece of advice is this: it is NOT prohibited for her to edit her own biography. The conflict of interest guideline is just that..a guideline, not policy. Of course it's

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

In my opinion there's a large and pervasive problem behind today's controversy: in striking contrast to our core value of openness, it is very difficult to even *perceive* how important decisions like this are made. Both the technical and the editorial processes are pretty opaque to the average

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch sa...@sarahstierch.comwrote: On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote: Anybody interested in tackling this issue? -Pete I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered - and I'll

[Gendergap] Interesting article about online anonymity and gender

Hi list,I thought this article might be of interest-Pete http://www.fastcompany.com/1769217/there-are-no-secrets-from-twitter You Can't Keep Your Secrets From TwitterBY DAVID ZAXhttp://www.fastcompany.com/user/253232Tue Jul 26, 2011 On the Internet, no one knows you're secretly a man (or

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:22 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to throw this back in a positive direction. The task of deleting poor quality photographs (and metadata/provenance/paperwork is part of quality) is made much easier if we have good quality photographs of

Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Re: Wikipedia: Biography of Living People guide (focusing on sport)

Just so it doesn't get lost as we look at the details (which is important work, of course) -- I want to jump up and cheer! This is a really good resource, as good and in some respects better than the outreach materials we developed as part of the original Booshelf project:

Re: [Gendergap] Question for the Foundation about photographs of women

, 2011 at 2:45 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like we have strong consensus that a separate customer support queue, run by and for women, would be a good idea. I certainly think so! Who here

[Gendergap] OFFLIST Re: Incentive programs and wikicups: Effectiveness?

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Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template

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[Gendergap] Canvassing

On Oct 1, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Maggie wrote: Wikipedia is set up so that only people who look for these articles/pictures will know about voting procedures. So of course if there is a vote, the majority would probably be overall positive unless serious canvassing went on to let people who

[Gendergap] Civility

Maggie, Beria, and all: I've read through the discussion of Sue's blog post with a mixture of interest (in the substance of the various things that have been said) and concern (about the tenor). I want to address the second of those, the way we choose to communicate with each other. There are

Re: [Gendergap] Canvassing

On Oct 1, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Maggie wrote: I actually *have* read it very closely due to that situation. But thanks for assuming that I am not capable of doing so. Maggie -- sorry to give that impression. When I said if you haven't read it I had in mind the broad audience -- I'm confident

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 5

On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Theo10011 wrote: Wonderful, now I can finally sleep in peace knowing that it made sense to you. Theo..please calm down. Plenty of us read and understand Sarah's posts, plenty of us read and understand your posts. This is not us vs. them. If you're feeling worked up

Re: [Gendergap] washington dc

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[Gendergap] Women, collective intelligence, and Wikipedia

Hi all, Eugene Kim, the consultant who facilitated Wikimedia's amazing five-year strategic planning process, has just posted an interesting blog post (with his new consulting agency, Groupaya). http://groupaya.net/blog/2011/10/do-women-make-groups-smarter/ An excerpt: Tom Malone is the

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:19 AM, ChaoticFluffy chaoticflu...@gmail.comwrote: Pete Forsyth's strategy looks good on paper, but my feeling is that for this particular *type* of uncivil editor (as opposed to your garden-variety editor who happens to have lost his temper), an approach of something

Re: [Gendergap] Please remove my comments including this one

Along this line, Risker, which form of posting is preferred in the Lists; posting below the person you are responding to (as I am doing here); or posting above it? I've seen it done both ways. Marc Marc, This could get fun -- more virtual ink has been spilled on the top-post vs.

Re: [Gendergap] Civility and the new Terms of Use

Kaldari, I think you and I are very much of the same mind on the importance of civility in general. However, I am skeptical about inserting a civility requirement into the Terms of Use. I think it's important to keep in mind that the primary purpose of this document is to establish bright lines

Re: [Gendergap] Bothersome? (Re: Pimp)

. _ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 25 December 2011 19:41, Pete

Re: [Gendergap] Bothersome? (Re: Pimp)

, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Beria, Yes, that is why I'm here as well. And I confess that right now, I do not have a grand theory of how to fix it all; but I'm glad to talk about, or work on, little ideas while the big ideas percolate. Beria, you and I have both been here

Re: [Gendergap] A Spanish book from 1845...

Hi Emijrp, Looks like a great find! It seems to me that transcribing these volumes onto Wikisource would be a great step toward getting them used as sources for Wikipedia articles. In case you (or somebody else on the list) are not familiar with Wikisource, it's basically a place where you can:

[Gendergap] Sarah Stierch on Huffington Post! On why women should care about SOPA and PIPA.

Subject line says it all. That's right, on the day that the most widely-read original content site on the Internet went black in protest of the SOPA and PIPA bills, Sarah went to the *second* most widely-read original content site [1] to talk about it:

Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team

Agreed -- excellent work, Laura and Bidgee! On case studies -- one person who has self-documented extensively on gaining access to public figures for photos is David Shankbone. But he's blogged about tons of things, so it will take a little work to dig through and find the best reflective posts

Re: [Gendergap] WikiWomen's History Month outcomes

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Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

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Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

On May 13, 2012 5:40 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Have we any sources other than the blog post? Yes -- the cnet column, among others. But isn't this the sort of discussion that belongs on article talk pages, and maybe a wikiproject talk page? Don't get me wrong -- I'm glad this was

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should gender gappers really pay attention?

On May 30, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Laura Hale wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I believe issues relating to pornography are germane to a list discussing the gender gap, and I'm happy to be informed about them (as with Andreas' initial post

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

On May 31, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Please consider the likelihood that there may be a correlation between the let-it-all-hang-out attitude towards porn, and the problem you describe as sexualized

Re: [Gendergap] positive action Re: Nastiness

I'm not so sure. As soon as the incident was noted, the article was semi-protected, which solved the problem. Perhaps you are suggesting flagged revisions for *all* biographies of living persons (BLPs), by default? -Pete On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] On Ms. Sarkeesian - tropes - and notability

Just thought I'd point out -- it's not just this list that is taking a stronger interest in Anita since she started blogging about her experience. Check out the number of page views the bio had in May vs. June (so far): May 2012: 648 views June 2012: 32,754 views

Re: [Gendergap] Holly Graf

On Jun 18, 2012 4:38 PM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: your efforts and the efforts of other men like Andreas are probably better spent improving the article about her to remove this material. Are there efforts you would recommend for women that are different, Laura? Pete

Re: [Gendergap] WikiWomen's Luncheon at Wikimania

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Re: [Gendergap] uk chairman band

In my opinion, it's very much within the remit of this list to share anything that creates an environment that is not welcoming to new contributors. It doesn't need to be proven every time, as far as I'm concerned, that women are disproportionately affected, for a topic to be germane to this list.

Re: [Gendergap] Wikimania Feedback Comment on luncheon

I've been following this thread with great interest -- this is a subject that fascinates me, and that I've put a lot of thought into. In particular, I looked into a variety of ways to approach introductions when working with Sarah and Lori Byrd Phillips to plan GLAMcamp DC. The consistent theme

Re: [Gendergap] Maya Angelou

On Aug 1, 2012 11:09 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Miss Angelou Sorry to be a nitpicker, but while in high school I had the privilege of meeting DOCTOR Angelou (through a Facing History and Ourselves program), and it was impressed on us early and often (and effectively, it

Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: Questionable just means one has questions. I disagree. I think questionable is a highly charged word that's usually understood to be rhetorical (whether or not it was intended that way). For instance, if I say I

Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote: I haven't looked at these AfDs Whoops -- correction, I actually did !vote in one of these AfDs (Todd Akin rape and pregnancy controversy), just didn't realize it was one of those being called out. Sorry -- no deception

Re: [Gendergap] Explosion in listings... Re: Category: Female Wikipedians

To me it seems beneficial to have a broadly accessible opportunity to formulate and answer questions about self-identified women on Wikipedia. The benefit is in empowering researchers and our community to pursue interesting questions -- but by definition, we don't know what the questions are

Re: [Gendergap] Explosion in listings... Re: Category: Female Wikipedians

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Re: [Gendergap] Binders full of women

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Re: [Gendergap] Binders full of women

[[User:Peteforsyth]] On Oct 23, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: Very funny to read those delete and keep reasons, thanks! 2012/10/23 Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com Amusingly enough…I did a Wikipedia presentation Thursday at the Open Education conference, and as I often do, asked

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] 2012 Editor survey launched

On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: On 1 November 2012 18:47, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: Are we supposed to be seeing this invitation, or has it not been posted yet? I saw it today, on either meta or Commons (I forget which). Showed up for me on ENWP. -Pete

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

As possibly the only person in this discussion who's been to Bagby, I'd hasten to point out that arguably, including nudity in the article would be the most accurate way to depict it. I've seen more naked people there than clothed people. But yes, I agree with Sarah -- having images of naked

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based purely upon the opinions of editors who are members of this mailing list, or

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

I think it's easier to discuss the challenges associated with the board resolution in question, if we can leave aside the question of nudity for a moment. Here is a simple example of an ordinary portrait taken in a (presumably) private setting in a library:

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

of their image, it doesn't matter whether it's their breasts or just their face that's featured - we should not be hosting it. -Fluff On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote: I think it's easier to discuss the challenges associated with the board

Re: [Gendergap] Some nice news

Thanks for the updates Sumana, and I agree with Siko -- item #3 is especially awesome! Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Yay :-) And congratulations to you and your team, Sumana, on the OPWGSoC boost - it is really exciting

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

Stollznow file than I remembered. Looks like it was uploaded more than once: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Karen_Stollznow_1.jpg On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 15:23, Pete Forsyth wrote: I

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: It'd be nice if we had OTRS agents more active in Commons who could proactively deal with these kinds of things. (They might be made to feel as welcome as Christians in lion enclosures, but that's another matter...) I

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

I have to say I share Russavia's bafflement around this issue. The accomplishments people have made on the platform of Wikimedia Commons are, in my view, staggering. Just this morning, a couple Wikipedian friends told me about the photography of JJ Harrison, somebody who has uploaded an

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, snip Yet now, faced with those horrible things that happen on our site all the time, and which come up time and again in gender gap discussions, you want to send us bird-watching and tell us about all the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: To me the wording of the board resolution is clear as is stands. Erik has further clarified it. However, present practice in Commons does not follow it. So if these three words help make the intended meaning clearer,

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: The resolution as worded requires that any photo of a person in a private place, or with an expectation of privacy, carry a declaration of consent. It does not specify consent to what, and there is no broadly agreed

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 5/13/13 2:58 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: there is no broadly agreed model of what that consent form might look like. Actually there is: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Consent That looks better than I

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: It merely states (paraphrasing) images of people in a private setting OR with an expectation of privacy. The OR inserted above is important to the paraphrase -- it's one of the things that often gets missed in

Re: [Gendergap] can the Commons images thread move?

Sumana, Yes, gladly. I feel that thread has served a good purpose, but it's true, it's been at the expense of flooding the list with a lot of noise, and I've contributed some of it. I do think that after a prolonged long dip into less productive discussion, in the last exchange we have arrived at

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: snip Erik said, ---o0o--- Even if they are uploaded in good faith (I put them on Flickr with permission and now I'm uploading them to Commons), *it's still desirable to ask for evidence of consent specifically for

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.comwrote: snip Erik said, ---o0o--- Even if they are uploaded in good faith (I put

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

Hi SJ, On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Pete, On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: To me the wording of the board resolution

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote: I think one of the best things we could all do to move things forward would be to start adding the consent template wherever we can, and encouraging our photographer friends to do so as well. It would be fantastic

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

For anybody interested: I've nominated the photo I mentioned a while back, a portrait of Karen Stollznow, for deletion. To me this seems like a clear case of a file that Commons policy requires be deleted, but that was not.

Re: [Gendergap] Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Joseph Reagle joseph.2...@reagle.orgwrote: On 05/23/2013 02:58 PM, Jane Darnell wrote: How strange that people take the trouble to upload those! I've been wondering about this myself. Why do people port collections of images from Flickr CC to Commons in the

Re: [Gendergap] Learn to code events in California subject to regulation?

Leigh, Thanks for this. I looked at the agency's site, without much luck -- but Ben Kovitz did find something encouraging, in item (f) of exempt institutions in the 2009 Act: http://www.bppe.ca.gov/lawsregs/index.shtml So, unless there are active efforts to offer courses that charge over $2500,

Re: [Gendergap] Help: Research on whether we have made any difference?

Lennart, You should look at the Education Program, which after the first year appeared to have a strong impact (i.e. more participation from women than men). It's also been my experience (anecdotal but strong) that the Writing Wikipedia Articles course I teach has attracted and retained more

Re: [Gendergap] Karen DeCrow has died

Hi Kathleen, Sad news. In a case like this, there are three possibilities for adding a photo on English Wikipedia: 1. Find a suitably licensed (or public domain) photo. I have done a quick search on Google

Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)

Dear Val, I've now read and reread your message (quoted below) several times, and want to thank you for putting this important concept in such clear and tangible terms. I have just one thing to add: It seems to me that this points to a broader issue that's deeply connected with the social

Re: [Gendergap] Novel by Woman-Deletion

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think we should say

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

Ryan, thanks for bringing this up for discussion. I've put a lot of thought into the series of photos this comes from over the years, and it's well worth some discussion. I'd like to hear what others think about this. Here is a link to the category for the larger collection; warning, there's lots

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Personally, I don't think it's worth having a discussion here about the merits of deleting these images. There's no chance in hell they are going to be deleted from Commons. What I'm more interested in is the

Re: [Gendergap] [Spam] Re: Sexualized environment on Commons

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: The new hovercards (which I otherwise love) have created another problem, in that lead images show up when your cursor hovers over a wikilink. Good point. In general, it would be good to have a more thorough process for

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

Regarding "swearing is not in itself uncivil" -- I agree strongly with that sentiment. However, in group communication it can be valuable to have clear lines that must not be crossed, in order to keep everybody on the same page. As an analogy, it seems to me that a clear expectation of avoiding

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

process to systematically incorporate these, even > when they provide strong support for notability. > > cheers > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what

Re: [Gendergap] Lists of notable deaths of 2015

At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary." Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and online) look much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, "death notice"=paid ad) is

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

pressed me as an island of lovely flowers in a garden > with a winter's worth of St. Bernard droppings. > > Risker > > On 21 February 2016 at 17:13, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 Ryan. >> >> This was one article, and no Wikipedians, readers

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

be in the "let's make this a more > pleasant and positive place to do our work" have gone over to the other > side. > > Risker > > On 21 February 2016 at 19:38, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Risker, I want to be clear: >> >> It'

Re: [Gendergap] Marfan syndrome image

In many (most?) legal jurisdictions, no release is required if you're in a place where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Aug 12, 2016 1:43 AM, "Neotarf" wrote: > Some comment on Lane Rasberry's "model release" question: first it seems

Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

It appears that the award has had its own web presence independent of the State Department since March 2016: http://web.archive.org/web/20160304031707/http://www.awiu.org/international-women-of-courage-celebrations/about-iwoc-celebration/ Perhaps in inquiry to the AIWU board of directors or

Re: [Gendergap] Women's march speeches repeatedly put up for deletion

Fae, I have been skeptical of your initial post here (it's hard for me to see a strong basis for believing those giving the speeches have relinquished rights), but I very strongly agree with the principle you articulate here -- it's very important to apply consistent standards. Readers here

Re: [Gendergap] Craigslist founder donates $500K to curb Wikipedia trolls - Email filters?

On 02/12/2017 03:38 PM, Risker wrote: On 12 February 2017 at 17:22, Jonathan Cardy > wrote: Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. Do you object to the idea of developing an option to

[Gendergap] "Is Wikipedia Woke?"

This feature article from Bloomberg BusinessWeek does, IMO, a great job of exploring and contextualizing Wikipedia's diversity issues. The reporters really did their homework on this one, taking the time to explore all angles. There are certainly a few factual errors, the most egregious are

Re: [Gendergap] "Is Wikipedia Woke?"

that happened? Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:39 AM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote: > yes and some time dilation > and taking pictures of people with user name tags on, so outing > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors.