Re: [313] about the members huh
yep, if the elders are down with posting statsi'm down.:-) Dan Sicko wrote: At 4:13 PM -0500 1/31/02, J. T. wrote: uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, got more records than you.. i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous. how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important people supposed to post their stats...i dont get it uh, no ... everyone who wants to can post their "stats" ... why must we take everything so seriously? -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Ableton Live
Ableton Live Program Max download 5 users Don't hammer it if it's full. If you download please reply. ftp://detroit:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:6667/Ableton.zip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members huh
At 4:13 PM -0500 1/31/02, J. T. wrote: uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, got more records than you.. i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous. how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important people supposed to post their stats...i dont get it uh, no ... everyone who wants to can post their "stats" ... why must we take everything so seriously? -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: About the members
Yeah so me and "neontsetse" have made amends and we actually agree on things. So anyone still interested in knowing some things about me can read on otherwise use the delete button. full name: Michael Elliot-Knight (hyphenated because of a combo of my wife's and my own last name) age: 32 - last I checked live: Minneapolis work: office management for an ad agency work: also at a cooperative grocery store - where I must go right now or be late for work! been into this music ever since I saw Kraftwerk's Music non-stop video on MTV all those years ago - never have I seen it since but it's burned into the back of my head. trying to keep record collection in check until we get a house - after which I can't make any guarantees. DJ currently in my living room and at private parties until I make the perfect mix tape. Helping friend to jump start his music career - and mine. I sometimes dream of electric sheep. Out of time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
despite JT's reservations and the slight sense of lameness that i can't help feeling... well, it's only a bit of fun innit: dammit rob!! (hey!) haha no you guys have your fun, i just dont think anyone is going to remember much of this info about each other come next week. maybe we should do a webpage for this shit? it's kinda interesting to know who everyone is, tho the volume of emails (which i'm contributing to) is likely to get out of hand. George/Dan/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - can we tack something onto the side of the mythical list faq? that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me, or hell maybe there could be a 313 bulletin board (ala globaldarkness, submerge, technotourist) where people could get to know each other and be more social and shoot the shit. speaking of, y to all the old vravers out there! j _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Deep Space Radio
Anyone know where to find Deep Space Radio archives on the internet? thanks a bunch. steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Age: 32 Resides: South Bend, Indiana Employed: Assembly worker for a commercial vehicle manufacturer flirting with mis-management into oblivion. Considering a career change into one of the many IT fields out there (or whatever is left to choose from now). 313 list member since 1999-ish? (mainly a lurker absorbing the wisdom and knowledge of Detroit Techno-philes on the list and rabid Inner City/Kevin Saunderson fan) Hooked on Techno circa 1990, my techno collection is limited mostly to a crate or two or older early 90's Detroit and Belgium techno, another few crates of Chicago house, couple of crates of Chicago/LA and UK hard house, and yet another couple of crates of that annoying progressive and trance stuff a lot 313'ers love to hate. :) Oh yeah, and a bunch of old and new hiphop as well. I do a couple of radio mixes each week for a radio station in the South Bend area and I'm always looking at clubs and parties to spin at in the area. I'll never rely on DJ'ing to make a living, but I'll continue to do it as long as I enjoy it. Missed out on DEMF I, but made it to DEMF II last year (the hail on Sunday night was particularly memorable)... in spite of the disposal of Carl Craig, I'll likely attend again this year. Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
got mine! - Original Message - From: "joshtwentythree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [313] about the members > > > organizer of last years fashion must-have, the 313 > > t-shirts (anyone still wearing theirs) > > > > it's my favorite t-shirt :) > > josh23 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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despite JT's reservations and the slight sense of lameness that i can't help feeling... well, it's only a bit of fun innit: fullname: robert william webb age: 28 hometown: leicester (uk). currenthome: london (uk). occupation: computer stuff. subscribed: some time. favoriterecord: New Order "Technique". first313record: Retro Techno compilation. hooked ever since. visited313: once, September 1999. made a massive impression on me. forever grateful to everyone who helped on that trip, and privileged to have met so many wonderful and friendly ppl. hobbies: music, being wrong, despairing at the current form and uncertain financial future of my beloved Nottingham Forest FC. currentlyplaying: Carl A Finlow "Definition" (Device), followed by ISAN "Lucky Cat" (Morr Music). maybe we should do a webpage for this shit? it's kinda interesting to know who everyone is, tho the volume of emails (which i'm contributing to) is likely to get out of hand. George/Dan/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - can we tack something onto the side of the mythical list faq? rob _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members huh
g - Original Message - From: "J. T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [313] about the members huh > uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, got > more records than you.. > i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous. > how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important people > supposed to post their stats...i dont get it > > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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28 y.o. from rochester, ny but stuck in pensacola, florida until july or so DoD employee first trip to detroit was w/ mark gage for 'spastik' in 1994. been back a few times a year since and lived there briefly in 1996 "naturally progressed" into detroit techno via similar musical tastes/interests growing up (had an older cousin who was a new waver so ive been hip to the music scene since a kid) 2500 or so records that im as many miles from plus about another 1000 cd's which i have a handful of with me computer: titanium g4 laptop been on the list ca. 1995 On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 05:17 PM, Kevin Conrad wrote: 25 yrs. old Born in Rochester, NY - Moved to suburban Detroit about a year and a half ago. Electrical Engineer for GM I have turntables, but don't use them as much since I started writing my own stuff. It's now a passionate hobby of mine. Joined the list a bit after I moved here, I mostly lurk. I've met some really cool people through it though. Kevin www.mp313.com --- "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ok, got by the last one. I'm 28 and I live in London. As you can see, not much response from here, stiff upper lip and all. felt compelled to reply through difference, occupation: high school teacher. We have a radio station and some djing just started, the kids love it and the government is paying for it. it is an inner city school. of course the kids are not into what i am - detroit techno, detroit electro, all things detroit, and some uk stuff that sounds detroit. many records, music-making credentials: dubious. sorry to all who are sick of these emails. -Original Message- From: glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: 31 January 2002 22:09 Subject: Re: [313] about the members >OH OH OH, One more goal I'd like to achieve, along with my partner in >life is to apply for a grant that can enable us to get iMacs and fruity >loops, cubase, reason, rebirth etc into a Detroit school and teach inner >city kids how to make music. I think the future of Techno lies there. =) > > >glyph1001 wrote: > >> This is like filling out a AOL profile. =) >> >> Name: Marina >> Sex: Female >> Age: 28/ Taurus =) >> Born: Hong Kong, Kowloon >> Raised: NYC/Chicago >> Living currently: Doing a stint in Detroit. >> On list since: 1997. >> Record/CD Collection? I share a big rec. collection with my brother >> dating back to the 80's. Small CD collection. =) >> Occupation: I help run a (soon to be 2) labels in Detroit. I also do >> graphics and web design for the labels. Hobbies: All of the above and >> want to get into doing documentaries and films, script writing...the >> whole nine yards. >> Fave Quote: Don't ask because you probably won't like what I have to say. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ok here goes; 29, almost 30 years old. Network admin and oracle dba for a small manufacturing firm. Born in detroit, grew up in roseville, still visit detroit a bunch. Lived in cleveland oh for the past 9 years. occasionaly make my own tracks (plug!) at http://www.assasins.net 313 Subbed for 2.5 years jim - Original Message - From: "Dan Sicko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [313] about the members > okay ... Ian's thrown down the gauntlet (data glove?): > > 33 years old. > Copywriter for ad agency devoted to one of the "Big 3." > Born in Detroit. Live in the Metro Area. > Write about techno. Visit my vinyl collection in the basement when > schedule permits. > 313 subscriber for 7 years. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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25 yrs. old Born in Rochester, NY - Moved to suburban Detroit about a year and a half ago. Electrical Engineer for GM I have turntables, but don't use them as much since I started writing my own stuff. It's now a passionate hobby of mine. Joined the list a bit after I moved here, I mostly lurk. I've met some really cool people through it though. Kevin www.mp313.com --- "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was > thinking it would be cool if we all had a better > idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do > for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? > Is music a hobby or your job? > > Me: > 27 yo > I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 > supplier). > I live in the detroit metro area. > I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech > during the night. > I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too > (sometimes). > > Your turn... ;) > > TJ > www.wireframerecords.com > www.mp313.com > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, glyph1001 wrote: > OH OH OH, One more goal I'd like to achieve, along with my partner in > life is to apply for a grant that can enable us to get iMacs and fruity > loops, cubase, reason, rebirth etc into a Detroit school and teach inner > city kids how to make music. I think the future of Techno lies there. =) one of my friends started thinkdetroita nonprofit that teaches detroit kids how to use computers and also involves them in sports programs. if he can do something like this...i don't see why you can't. this is EMINENTLY DOABLE. lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Name: atomly Sex: M Age: 22 Born: Minot, ND Raised: Minot and Fargo, ND. Minneapolis for 2 years for college Living currently: Chicago On list since: ? Record/CD Collection? A couple hundred. More into production than DJing. Occupation: Computer Programmer Hobbies: Making music -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 877.741.3571 ... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
OH OH OH, One more goal I'd like to achieve, along with my partner in life is to apply for a grant that can enable us to get iMacs and fruity loops, cubase, reason, rebirth etc into a Detroit school and teach inner city kids how to make music. I think the future of Techno lies there. =) glyph1001 wrote: This is like filling out a AOL profile. =) Name: Marina Sex: Female Age: 28/ Taurus =) Born: Hong Kong, Kowloon Raised: NYC/Chicago Living currently: Doing a stint in Detroit. On list since: 1997. Record/CD Collection? I share a big rec. collection with my brother dating back to the 80's. Small CD collection. =) Occupation: I help run a (soon to be 2) labels in Detroit. I also do graphics and web design for the labels. Hobbies: All of the above and want to get into doing documentaries and films, script writing...the whole nine yards. Fave Quote: Don't ask because you probably won't like what I have to say. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [313] about the members
I only spent five days in the 1970s. Learned to ride a bike the year
"Strings of Life" was released.
I work at a computer animation studio, primarily serving as a lighting
and texture designer. Currently doing an educational series for PBS
produced by the guy who played "Slim Goodbody", but have done feature
film pre-production and game work before that (Rampage 3 for PSX and
NCAA Football 2k2 for DC). Also do fine art and digital painting and
photography on the side. Would eventually like to lose the day job and
make a living selling prints of my work.
Sound-wise, I've been listening to electronic music since I was 13
('93). First techno CD I bought was "Best of Rave vol. 1" on
Priority. Almost returned Tresor 2 to Tower I was so initially bored
with it . . . needless to say it grew on me. I've been making music
since 94, when a friend gave me a computer with a copy of Scream
Tracker installed on it. Until recently, I only produced for myself,
to let off steam, but you may seem some wax from me soon. I've
composed well over a hundred tracks, but there are only maybe fifteen
that I've let other people hear. Most of those are on my website.
I don't DJ, but I keep meaning to learn, if only to give techno more
exposure in Utah. I've probably only got a hundred 12s, but at least
400 CDs, 2/3rds of which are some shade of techno. I'm pretty sure
I'm keeping PlanetX in business.
--
Brian "balistic" Prince
http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
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Re: [313] about the members
This is like filling out a AOL profile. =) Name: Marina Sex: Female Age: 28/ Taurus =) Born: Hong Kong, Kowloon Raised: NYC/Chicago Living currently: Doing a stint in Detroit. On list since: 1997. Record/CD Collection? I share a big rec. collection with my brother dating back to the 80's. Small CD collection. =) Occupation: I help run a (soon to be 2) labels in Detroit. I also do graphics and web design for the labels. Hobbies: All of the above and want to get into doing documentaries and films, script writing...the whole nine yards. Fave Quote: Don't ask because you probably won't like what I have to say. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members huh
well, i much prefer it to another mills or hawtin discussion. -Original Message- From: J. T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members huh yeah im a whiner! no its fine! glad to see people coming out of woodwork and not just 313 celebs.. i'm really curious to read these bios and stuff but i just dont want several hundred strangers telling me about themselves at once... >no not everyone has to answer, some can just whine, >like someone always does wa issue that or this :) >and i know only us residents and i will answer cause its kinda american >thing that, introducing yerself and so on > > > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
Yes...and I was spotted in mine at last year's DEMF by none other than josh23 himself :-) jeff At 03:40 PM 1/31/2002, you wrote: > organizer of last years fashion must-have, the 313 > t-shirts (anyone still wearing theirs) it's my favorite t-shirt :) josh23 __ D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members huh
yeah im a whiner! no its fine! glad to see people coming out of woodwork and not just 313 celebs.. i'm really curious to read these bios and stuff but i just dont want several hundred strangers telling me about themselves at once... no not everyone has to answer, some can just whine, like someone always does wa issue that or this :) and i know only us residents and i will answer cause its kinda american thing that, introducing yerself and so on _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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21 years old. music lover. i live in Porto Alegre (Brasil) since i was born. i sell insurance douring the day and spend my nights with music.. i do make music.. oldscholl detroit techno. totaly influencied by the contemplative techno of may, mad mike, carl craig... i dont make any inovations.. just like the way things used to be. 808, 909, 303 and strings. its IS a hobby but i do plan to release some ep's for detroit lables douring this life time. take care u all.. - Original Message - From: "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: [313] about the members > Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? > > Me: > 27 yo > I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). > I live in the detroit metro area. > I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. > I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). > > Your turn... ;) > > TJ > www.wireframerecords.com > www.mp313.com > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: [313] about the members
> organizer of last years fashion must-have, the 313 > t-shirts (anyone still wearing theirs) it's my favorite t-shirt :) josh23 __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
45 years old, married, work at Generous Motors (hated it lo these 25+ years), almost done with my MA and looking for a Ph.D program next. Used to moonlight as a record store geek in the late 70s-early 80s (the days of Bookies Club 870, etc.) and now I suppose I'm simply a geek. Have owned and do own lots of music - eclectically. Mostly I lurk and post auction links, but talk of certain obscure proto 313 trends pulls me into the fray. Have been subbed probably 5 years under 3 or 4 email "handles". Grew up and abide in a NW Detroit suburb (Walled Lake). jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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30 work: NYC Retail interior designer live: Connecticut organizer of last years fashion must-have, the 313 t-shirts (anyone still wearing theirs) did a Detroit/Chicago inspired radio show in Cleveland in the mid 90's Always suckered by Mike Banks to drive him for pizza on Cass corridor when I lived in detroit. -dave back to lurking - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] re: about the members
me... 22 Boulder Colorado, moved here from california about 4 and a half years ago, i do IT work for IBM...i throw some random little parties with friends, dj, starting to try my hands at production with miserable results...and currently starting school to get a music industry studies degree... josh23 __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I figure I'll participate in this.. 23 I live in the suburbs of Toronto (Canada). Born in St. Paul, Minessota, 9 months later moved to London UK (parents are british), 3 years later moved to Canada. I work as a Network/Systems Administrator for a small Radio Communications company Made a few attempts at making music, not very succesful. Never got around to buying proper turntables.. Although have 3x more vinyl than cd's Have been lurking on and off this list for 5 or so years. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sex: 4x a week please age: 24 born & raised: South Bend, IN currently living: Dayton, OH (lesser of two evils) occupation: Head of a .com for a health food/supplement company. http://www.nutriwarehouse.com If you need vitamins come to me! : ) records: Not a one. 313: not sure how long. Maybe 4-5 yrs. I have had been subbed with 3 or 4 email addys at different times though. music: Techno, house, electro, experimental, some industrial, some indie, some 80's, some classical.. ok ill stop. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members huh
uhh...is this 313 lovelines...im 25, all man, on 313 longer than you, got more records than you.. i love you guys and im not complaining but this is kinda ridiculous. how many people are on this list...are only the extra-important people supposed to post their stats...i dont get it _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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male. 23. finland, oulu. student (computer science or something) member since 1997 more into german techno/house nowadays :) not so much good stuff coming from D lately. made some crappy tracks. djs to my drunken frends. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] re: about the members
Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be >cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is >music a hobby or your job? Hola list members, 23 years old. Live in Iowa City, Iowa (like kent and vince also on this list); have family in Detroit. I work as a drug dealer ;) no really, I'm a pharmacy technician, so its all certified and legal and stuff. Sometimes, when I'm inspired I produce music, sometimes I jam with a couple of friends, but more often than either of these, I drop wax on the steel wheels (mostly as a hobby, though in a few years, maybe as my main job). -geoff _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] about the members
me: 22 born: Flint MI reside: San Diego CA on USS Shiloh previous: 18years in Flint, 1year in Chicago, 1 Year Washington DC (last 2 military) occupation: More then full time Computer Tech in the Navy. make music: If i wasn't in the navy, i just might have time... > -Original Message- > From: Brian Dillard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:57 AM > To: '313@hyperreal.org' > Subject: RE: [313] about the members > > me: 29 > born: battle creek > reside: san francisco > previous: 5 years in chicago w/ frequent trips to detroit > before that: michgan state > occupation: full-time programmer/part-time freelance writer > make music? no, but review it at armchair-dj.com > > brian > > -Original Message- > From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:41 AM > To: 'T.J.Johnson'; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] about the members > > > Name: George Jones IV > Alias: Logic7, Subject28 > Occupation: Technical Systems Administrator - PentaMark WorldWide > (Chrysler's only marketing/ad firm) > Residence: Sterling Heights, Mi > > I produce music as a hobby, but I'm gonna try to do more with it this > year. > I DJ occasionally around Detroit. I'm also into graphic design, > programming, > and 3D animation. My main website is http://www.geocities.com/labwerx and > for design it's http://www.geocities.com/labwerx/design . > > Next... > > > -Original Message- > From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] about the members > > > Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool > if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do > for > a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your > job? > > Me: > 27 yo > I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). > I live in the detroit metro area. > I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. > I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). > > Your turn... ;) > > TJ > www.wireframerecords.com > www.mp313.com > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
ok, here goes... the peer pressure has gotten to me... sex: f age: 26 born & raised: detroit area currently living: salt lake city, ut occupation: marketing analyst for a top 10 etailer records: about 1500 that don't get played enough 313: list sub for 7 years music: hard core house-head peace, h - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!)
Now c'mon guys. Be nice, will ya? The man's trying to understand and explore the messages behind Detroit Techno. Its not all just about Artists and Titles. Like Mike says, alot of this music are the dreams of artists who live in Detroit. Why do they have these dreams? Is it because these dreams are based on the truths that many are not willing to admit or want to sweep under the rug? I'm not saying we have to talk about them everyday but when it comes up, please show some respect to those who are looking for deeper answers. If you have nothing to enlighten us all with, then delete the post and move on. Peace, Glyph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, enough with the armchair philosophy and politics - if you really want to do something constructive - the 313 list (add the entire internet to that) is not the place to get it done - your community/neighborhood is. Get away from the computer and be active - then maybe you can come back and tell us what you did to make it a better place but sitting around talking metaphysics isn't going to do it. Vote Nader. Thank you. MEK Jussi Lehtonen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: Somewhere in Internet <313@hyperreal.org> pl.fi> Subject: Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!) 01/31/02 10:13 AM On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the culture is a construction based on the things we got planted inside :D the idea of a nation is the most negative methaphysical construction I can think off - How about taking this conversation to alt.culture.* or alt.metaphysics.* or if newsgroups aren't your thing to some web-forum. Perhaps I'm the only one but this thread (among few other self-evident recent ones) has grown very boring and I'm tired of hitting delete. I just "lve" acting as net police... J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman "Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control." - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
list elders? eh, speak up Ian... 33yo. Technology consultant (digital film/special effects & internet related mostly), budding entrepeneur (if only I would ever learn to spell it) Born in Detroit, lived around SE Michigan including Ann Arbor & Greektown, then took off for the call of Hollywood, then SF, then back to Hollywood. Now living in Cork City, Ireland. Make no music or dj, but have been known to help put on some parties here and there in various ways. First posting to 313 was October, 1994 (had to check the archives for that one) On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 20:18, Ian wrote: > Why not? > Me: > 36 years young > Manage web development for Big 3 automaker > Detroit metro > Rampant techno CD collector > 313 subscriber for 7 years > > Let me see your list elders! > -- > im > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Pump up the vol.. VHS
speaking of the pump up the volume series: is volume three on the net in .mpg format yet? matthew -Original Message- From: Jens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 5:34 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Pump up the vol.. VHS Does any of you in the UK have the three Pump up the volume episodes on VHS, and is it possible for me to get a copy? thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] re: about the members
I like this idea bout getting a kind of picture of you people here . and I´ll do it 2 - though the web is very dangerous nowadays and we even got people on the list snapping profiles 4 business ! and after some comments we surely also got some other official friends scanning :D but bla --- me: 30 work 4 my own web-company - building webpages live in Heidelberg Germsmoney - various music related projects but won´t xplain here - but I can sit over 2 hours trying to understand the relation of the tones in one pattern I love exact sounds that vibrate the body I love music - I love it with + without lyrics ... If I would make a party in nottinghill - it would look something like this at the moment: -- LOTUS FEVER -- Thursday 37th February 2002 @ Moogie bar, Bottleham 8-12pm FREEEZ WITHOUT ENTRY Next date: Thurs 37th March & thereforeafterIseewhatucan´tsee --- an evening with new and old nu-new-wave-old-beats, nu-notsoulbutsoul, bootywithoutboots old-nu-jazz, broken fixed beats & j-pop, j-lo-pop through a wider lense - Ruichi Sakamoto - Larry Heard - Missy Eliott - Robert Hood - Aaliyah - Neptunes - Keith Tucker - P.Diddy (the bitch)- Foxy Brown (my man) - Jay Dee - Mission - Seiji - Recloose - 4hero - Irma Thomas - Howling Wolf - Sydney Bechet - Ernie K Doe - Biz Markie - EPMD - Public Enemy - UR - Carl Craig - Brett Dancer - Mike Grant - Theo Parrish - Sylvia - Archie Shepp - Doug Hammond - so many more :D edit - but in germs - - I only spin tekno without using any hi hats, bassline chords, melody-stuff ca. 190 bpm :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
okay ... Ian's thrown down the gauntlet (data glove?): 33 years old. Copywriter for ad agency devoted to one of the "Big 3." Born in Detroit. Live in the Metro Area. Write about techno. Visit my vinyl collection in the basement when schedule permits. 313 subscriber for 7 years. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] U R souldiers
Ok let me uh..try and use my deciphering skills here. Heheh. What the guy means here Micheal is that why would you respond with such fervor (wild) when you can delete (click it away=delete) the post so that you wouldn't have to "read" it. Glyph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hm and to big Michael If this is meant to be me then I'd appreciate you not using my personal name in such a condescending manner - if it's a fight with words you want... - the subject '"boring" is interesting - That was not my subject line - I was replying to someone else's who added the word "boring" how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ? What exactly does this mean? Click WHAT away? What am I going wild over? You are being VERY vague and I do understand you have a language barrier to overcome but I'm willing to work with that and understand what you mean. you wouldn´t even need to read ? Again, read WHAT?! - I was just answering your answer anyway - - but till I get kicked off the list today :D - gonna make some more noise - Make all the noise you want but until you actually DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE WORLD IN A TANGIBLE FORM (like volunteer in your community, etc.) - noise is all you will be making. Any more personal communications between myself and you I'd like to keep off the 313 list because so far it has had little to do with music... peace MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/31/02 Subject: [313] U R souldiers 10:49 AM need 2 add this - I never wanted 2 speak with the words of others and instrumentalize them 4 my own sight if this happens or happened I am sorry and tell me but I do see that the way it´s treated here is also instrmentalizing sometimes, by not talking about the things that are there - - it´s a thin line - this is xactly why I want to get "the messages" straight, that people talk about what the ideas of what the artists want to communicate and if they interact to it - yep dancing, singing swinging and feeling and moving one thing that I do know 4 sure is - it´s not "only music" hm and to big Michael - the subject '"boring" is interesting - how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ? you wouldn´t even need to read ? - I was just answering your answer anyway - - but till I get kicked off the list today :D - gonna make some more noise - -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
Me: 33 List subscriber for a while...don't know how long. in st. louis for the past 543 days. am an assistant professor of political science and african/afro-american studies. grew up in and around detroit. unbroken and unbowed. peace lks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
Why not? Me: 36 years young Manage web development for Big 3 automaker Detroit metro Rampant techno CD collector 313 subscriber for 7 years Let me see your list elders! -- im - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
me: 29 born: battle creek reside: san francisco previous: 5 years in chicago w/ frequent trips to detroit before that: michgan state occupation: full-time programmer/part-time freelance writer make music? no, but review it at armchair-dj.com brian -Original Message- From: Jones, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:41 AM To: 'T.J.Johnson'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] about the members Name: George Jones IV Alias: Logic7, Subject28 Occupation: Technical Systems Administrator - PentaMark WorldWide (Chrysler's only marketing/ad firm) Residence: Sterling Heights, Mi I produce music as a hobby, but I'm gonna try to do more with it this year. I DJ occasionally around Detroit. I'm also into graphic design, programming, and 3D animation. My main website is http://www.geocities.com/labwerx and for design it's http://www.geocities.com/labwerx/design . Next... -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] about the members Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Charles Webster
I think it's well-produced, but a lot of the lyrics are pretty cheesy. "My Sweet Butterfly"? OK, like THAT'S not the most overused metaphor in the entire English language. Nothing makes my skin crawl more than destroying a soulful piece of electronic music with lyrics that belong on an N'Sync album. Brian -Original Message- From: Dave Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:42 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Charles Webster Yeah I've heard it (own it). I really like it actually, it's mostly downbeat tempo, some male vocals, some female vocals. Very soulful. -Dave --- Mad'R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody heard his new album yet ? > > what do you think ? > > thxs > > Mad'R > __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] uk club - claude young - 4hero
1 mo shorty as I see some crosslink 4 them not knowing the Dollis Hill history - claude young done some great remix for jacobs optical stairway (4hero) - solar feelings - r+s -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] uk club date (sorry if it don't concern you)
SUPERCONDUCTOR in conjunction with innercity FRIDAY 22ND FEBRUARY @ THINK TANK, LEEDS 9PM - 3AM DOOR £7.00 with 3 deck drunken maestro CLAUDE YOUNG releases on djax up beats, seventh city, deta, hardwax, puzzlebox, dow and more. this night will see claude mix it up in true (people) detroit style incorporating deep house grooves, electro beatz and dark techno rhythms. come witness a techno legend in intimate (250 capacity) club surroundings. we're operating a paying guest list as ticket system and it's getting full. send details by return to guarantee your place. note - guest list ends at 11pm then it's first come first served. cheap booze all night. superconductor is after this night on the last friday of the month future guests tbc
RE: [313] Feelin' at the mo'(WAS: ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!))
> >so MEK what music are you really feeling at the moment? (to bring the conv. > >on topic) robin said: > >me i'm into 313 techno more than ever (after being into it for many > >years, playing house, electro, etc i alwasy come back around to 313) > > >some tunes i'm feeling at the mo: > > >funk d'void - diabla (kevin 'master reese' saunderson mix) > > Great tune right there. Have you checked the flipside? The Hacker mix is > one of my favorites (even though it varies less from the original than > KMS's) It's got a lot of the same feel as the Hacker works that I really > like. If you like that one, check out the Goodlife EP (on Goodlife) with > Oxia and the Hacker. The Hacker tune on there is good, and the Oxia track > is excellent! yeah i'm very much into those two too. yeah the flip hacker mix is why i bought the 12 funnily enough. the hacker rmx with oxia on missile is also worth checking (the oxia mix demostrates a reese bassline to tie this into last weeks discussion) cheers robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
In a message dated 1/31/02 9:57:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Me: > Old school. > I am an independent A&R/marketing consultant. > I do not live in the detroit metro area, but have spent my share of time > there. > During the night, I have electric dreams. > I DJ.
RE: [313] Feelin' at the mo'(WAS: ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!))
>so MEK what music are you really feeling at the moment? (to bring the conv. >on topic) robin said: >me i'm into 313 techno more than ever (after being into it for many >years, playing house, electro, etc i alwasy come back around to 313) >some tunes i'm feeling at the mo: >funk d'void - diabla (kevin 'master reese' saunderson mix) Great tune right there. Have you checked the flipside? The Hacker mix is one of my favorites (even though it varies less from the original than KMS's) It's got a lot of the same feel as the Hacker works that I really like. If you like that one, check out the Goodlife EP (on Goodlife) with Oxia and the Hacker. The Hacker tune on there is good, and the Oxia track is excellent! Cheers, Dennis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] U R souldiers
>hm and to big Michael If this is meant to be me then I'd appreciate you not using my personal name in such a condescending manner - if it's a fight with words you want... >- the subject '"boring" is interesting - That was not my subject line - I was replying to someone else's who added the word "boring" >how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ? What exactly does this mean? Click WHAT away? What am I going wild over? You are being VERY vague and I do understand you have a language barrier to overcome but I'm willing to work with that and understand what you mean. >you wouldn´t even need to read ? Again, read WHAT?! >- I was just answering your answer anyway - >- but till I get kicked off the list today :D >- gonna make some more noise - Make all the noise you want but until you actually DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE THE WORLD IN A TANGIBLE FORM (like volunteer in your community, etc.) - noise is all you will be making. Any more personal communications between myself and you I'd like to keep off the 313 list because so far it has had little to do with music... peace MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/31/02 Subject: [313] U R souldiers 10:49 AM need 2 add this - I never wanted 2 speak with the words of others and instrumentalize them 4 my own sight if this happens or happened I am sorry and tell me but I do see that the way it´s treated here is also instrmentalizing sometimes, by not talking about the things that are there - - it´s a thin line - this is xactly why I want to get "the messages" straight, that people talk about what the ideas of what the artists want to communicate and if they interact to it - yep dancing, singing swinging and feeling and moving one thing that I do know 4 sure is - it´s not "only music" hm and to big Michael - the subject '"boring" is interesting - how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ? you wouldn´t even need to read ? - I was just answering your answer anyway - - but till I get kicked off the list today :D - gonna make some more noise - -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!)
> > Yeah, enough with the armchair philosophy and politics - if you really want > to do something constructive - the 313 list (add the entire internet to > that) is not the place to get it done - your community/neighborhood is. Get > away from the computer and be active - then maybe you can come back and > tell us what you did to make it a better place but sitting around talking > metaphysics isn't going to do it. Vote Nader. Thank you. i partially agree with you but like or not 313 will always veer toward that kind of discussion due to the deeper ended nature of the music (check Mike Banks inspirational words, then check his music!) so MEK what music are you really feeling at the moment? (to bring the conv. on topic) me i'm into 313 techno more than ever (after being into it for many years, playing house, electro, etc i alwasy come back around to 313) some tunes i'm feeling at the mo: suburban knight vs. locutus (dark quest (unfinished journey) on bipolar bolz bolz 'take a walk' dj bone mix (let that bass growl!!) red planet 9 - prayer stick (so when's rp10 due?) ratio rmxed- dan bell mix titonton - never letting go (dan curtin rmx) frankie bones - black and white (obvious sample, nice dark treatment) funk d'void - diabla (kevin 'master reese' saunderson mix) fix - flash (origianl mix, a work of pure funk genius) 3rd from the sun - 3rd from the sun (drum programming!!) gary martin - in rythem (orig mix) (teknotika) (how under-rated is this guy?) over to you folks. robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] U R souldiers
need 2 add this - I never wanted 2 speak with the words of others and instrumentalize them 4 my own sight if this happens or happened I am sorry and tell me but I do see that the way it´s treated here is also instrmentalizing sometimes, by not talking about the things that are there - - it´s a thin line - this is xactly why I want to get "the messages" straight, that people talk about what the ideas of what the artists want to communicate and if they interact to it - yep dancing, singing swinging and feeling and moving one thing that I do know 4 sure is - it´s not "only music" hm and to big Michael - the subject '"boring" is interesting - how can u go so wild, when u can click it away ? you wouldn´t even need to read ? - I was just answering your answer anyway - - but till I get kicked off the list today :D - gonna make some more noise - -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!)
Yeah, enough with the armchair philosophy and politics - if you really want to do something constructive - the 313 list (add the entire internet to that) is not the place to get it done - your community/neighborhood is. Get away from the computer and be active - then maybe you can come back and tell us what you did to make it a better place but sitting around talking metaphysics isn't going to do it. Vote Nader. Thank you. MEK Jussi Lehtonen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: Somewhere in Internet <313@hyperreal.org> pl.fi> Subject: Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING!) 01/31/02 10:13 AM On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > the culture is a construction based on the things we got planted inside :D > > the idea of a nation is the most negative methaphysical construction I can > think off - How about taking this conversation to alt.culture.* or alt.metaphysics.* or if newsgroups aren't your thing to some web-forum. Perhaps I'm the only one but this thread (among few other self-evident recent ones) has grown very boring and I'm tired of hitting delete. I just "lve" acting as net police... J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman "Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control." - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Suburban Knight album
In an attempt to steer us back on-topic... Does anyone have a release date for the Suburban Knight album on Peacefrog? I got a copy of some unfinished mixes a few months ago and thought it was due out in February, but I haven't heard of any publicity for it... >From what I've heard, it will be pretty essential. Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] 4 Hero
"Basically I think less people should limit thier intake, be it musically or information, to any one genre. There was a time when the distinctions weren't as prounounced. " Couldn't agree more - it seems that the situation within electronic music is a bit of a paradox. The more and more genres that split and diversify mean that there are plenty of unexplored avenues that have the opportunity to crosspollinate (think of a cladogram - used by zoologists to define animal species - usually through pronounced physical features) one another. Jazz/Techno, or Dub Techno Maurizio style for example. The problem is that by nature we have to classify to identify - the very nature of the music industry requires this otherwise they'd never sell any records. I suppose the nature of the DJ (perhaps in modern times) has changed. On the other hand, the old adage that good music always shines through is perhaps pertinent. Sorry Thursday afternoon rambling. Am still getting over the intensity of seeing Brian Wilson live last night. Was trying to figure how he would sound if he came from Detroit and produced now! www.bleep43.co.uk - Original Message - From: Stewart Caig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313 Newsgroup <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: [313] 4 Hero I remember the time I heard Mr Kirks Nightmare for the first time. Eddie Richards dropped it between 33 and a third queens's 'Searching' and Cybersonik's 'Technarchy'. Basically New York House into early breakbeat/Hardcore into Techno. Those were the days :) I remember when all DJ sets were like this. Basically I think less people should limit thier intake, be it musically or information, to any one genre. There was a time when the distinctions weren't as prounounced. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks (BORING! )
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > the culture is a construction based on the things we got planted inside :D > > the idea of a nation is the most negative methaphysical construction I can > think off - How about taking this conversation to alt.culture.* or alt.metaphysics.* or if newsgroups aren't your thing to some web-forum. Perhaps I'm the only one but this thread (among few other self-evident recent ones) has grown very boring and I'm tired of hitting delete. I just "lve" acting as net police... J -- Jussi Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.netppl.fi/~sandman "Do not allow yourself to be programmed. For once, in your life, take control. Take control." - UR - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR soldiers
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Cool, That goes a long way to answering! I've not seen that before, it's difficult for people on other sides of the world to relate to other peoples shit I guess... "Jongsma, K.J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/01/2002 16:03:34 To: Alex Bond/UK/INF/PwC, 313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject: RE: [313] UR soldiers > Memo from Alex Bond: > > Going back to those questions; > > 'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' > > Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? > I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and > stories which > help their image. > > What do other people think?? I dunno what other people think, but a few years ago Mad Mike posted this message on 313 answering your question: --- Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 03:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Somewhere In Detroit Subject: Re: (313) DJs That History Forgot 1 On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Somewhere In Detroit wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, rbcIII the lovebot wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Robert Smith wrote: > > > > > From what I know of Mad Mike, they don't want to be. More friendships > > > are made and more battles are won in the underground rather than on the > > > surface. More substance, less flash. > > > > Well, I take the militant underground stance of the UR crew with a grain > > of salt. They often dis +8 an others for licensing to big labels but... > > > > 1) Tresor and Tresor II (NovaMute) have UR tracks on them. This is the > > same label which licenses Probe and Plastikman and FUSE... > > > > 2) Drexciya on WARP > > > > 3) Drexciya on Rephlex > > > > 4) UR on New Electronica compilations. > > > > Many more examples can be found I'm sure. I don't think WARP, Mute > > records and New Electronica are any better than R&S. They pimp just like > > Renaat! > > > > So this "anti white techno" stance is not very solid IMO. I don't mind > > though. I happen to think the Tresor and Tresor II comps the best > > NovaMute put out. I think Drexciya deserves the exposure they get on > > labels like Warp and Rephlex. I love all of the releases that New > > Electronica has put out (esp. the new Reflections On Reflections) and > > think UR are a great compliment to the other srtists featured. > > > > I take the UR, Mad Mike, and Drexciya public statements as part of their > > "act". Much like the facade of some Metal bands who act like devil > > worshippers. It's all entertainment and good at that. I just happen to > > think the whole "at war with the commercial forces" theme a pretty cool > > one. > > > > -robert > > > > --> ___ _ _ _ _ > > / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ > > / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) |__ > >/__\\/|_/|_|\_/ ( *electronic* ) > > > Attn;Lovebot > I dont get out in cyberspace very often so please forgive my > net etiquette or any words I may mispell,I do very much app- > reciate Robert Smith"s passionate defense of UR,but I am a > fighter and in this instance I will come out of the shadows > in defense of my Label and what it stands for!First regarding > Drexciya - It hurts me just as much as anyone else who loves > true Underground music from the source to see a group that > UR as a Label helped lift from the streets into international > underground acclaim.Dont forget these projects on UR were not > Drexciyas first outings,their first outings on their own label > did not farewell at all.You guys cannot imagine the type of > time and energy both financially and studiowise that goes into > making 4 trak material good enough to make a record out of. > Matter of fact most people cant make 4 trak projects into > good sounding records,but at UR thats what we did because > I heard something in those traks - I heard some brothers > who were using their imaginations to the max,I heard kids > who were pure at heart and knew nothing of the international > complexities of this music,I heard dreams.It is very,very > difficult to descibe what it feels like to lose talented > people the caliber of Jeff Mills,Robert Hood or Drexciya > not to lose them due to arguments or disagreements,but to > lose them due to the environment here in Detroit.It is a > very difficult place to stay in especially if you have been > abroad or know others that have been.After returning some > people are never the same! Jeff Mills was a world class DJ > a talent the world now enjoys.He had nowhere to play here in > Detroit we would watch as DJ after DJ would come play Detroit >
Re: [313] UR soldiers
and 1 mo - > 'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' > > Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? > I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and stories which > help their image. > > What do other people think?? What do they communicate with this ? Even if it would be inside of a "marketing ploy" ? What is the whole meaning of the attitude ? :D having a break - I´m gonna search some stuff from my archive - thanks 4 all stepping into shoutz -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] UR soldiers
Alex Bond wrote: >Going back to those questions; > >'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' > >Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? >I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and stories which >help their image. > >What do other people think?? In the words of Mike himself, when a similar question was asked in '95: http://music.hyperreal.org/library/publicity/underground_resistance/mad_mike_speaks Also very relevant IMO in regards to the recent Jeff Mills discussion about whether/how to progress with techno. Otto -- This email from Underground Resistance's Mad Mike appeared on the 313 list: Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 03:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Somewhere In Detroit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (313) DJs That History Forgot 1 On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Somewhere In Detroit wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, rbcIII the lovebot wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Robert Smith wrote: > > > > > From what I know of Mad Mike, they don't want to be. More friendships > > > are made and more battles are won in the underground rather than on the > > > surface. More substance, less flash. > > > > Well, I take the militant underground stance of the UR crew with a grain > > of salt. They often dis +8 an others for licensing to big labels but... > > > > 1) Tresor and Tresor II (NovaMute) have UR tracks on them. This is the > > same label which licenses Probe and Plastikman and FUSE... > > > > 2) Drexciya on WARP > > > > 3) Drexciya on Rephlex > > > > 4) UR on New Electronica compilations. > > > > Many more examples can be found I'm sure. I don't think WARP, Mute > > records and New Electronica are any better than R&S. They pimp just like > > Renaat! > > > > So this "anti white techno" stance is not very solid IMO. I don't mind > > though. I happen to think the Tresor and Tresor II comps the best > > NovaMute put out. I think Drexciya deserves the exposure they get on > > labels like Warp and Rephlex. I love all of the releases that New > > Electronica has put out (esp. the new Reflections On Reflections) and > > think UR are a great compliment to the other srtists featured. > > > > I take the UR, Mad Mike, and Drexciya public statements as part of their > > "act". Much like the facade of some Metal bands who act like devil > > worshippers. It's all entertainment and good at that. I just happen to > > think the whole "at war with the commercial forces" theme a pretty cool > > one. > > > > -robert > > > > --> ___ _ _ _ _ > > / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ > > / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) |__ > >/__\\/|_/|_|\_/ ( *electronic* ) > > > Attn;Lovebot > I dont get out in cyberspace very often so please forgive my > net etiquette or any words I may mispell,I do very much app- > reciate Robert Smith"s passionate defense of UR,but I am a > fighter and in this instance I will come out of the shadows > in defense of my Label and what it stands for!First regarding > Drexciya - It hurts me just as much as anyone else who loves > true Underground music from the source to see a group that > UR as a Label helped lift from the streets into international > underground acclaim.Dont forget these projects on UR were not > Drexciyas first outings,their first outings on their own label > did not farewell at all.You guys cannot imagine the type of > time and energy both financially and studiowise that goes into > making 4 trak material good enough to make a record out of. > Matter of fact most people cant make 4 trak projects into > good sounding records,but at UR thats what we did because > I heard something in those traks - I heard some brothers > who were using their imaginations to the max,I heard kids > who were pure at heart and knew nothing of the international > complexities of this music,I heard dreams.It is very,very > difficult to descibe what it feels like to lose talented > people the caliber of Jeff Mills,Robert Hood or Drexciya > not to lose them due to arguments or disagreements,but to > lose them due to the environment here in Detroit.It is a > very difficult place to stay in especially if you have been > abroad or know others that have been.After returning some > people are never the same! Jeff Mills was a world class DJ > a talent the world now enjoys.He had nowhere to play here in > Detroit we would watch as DJ after DJ would come play Detroit > and for all the hype could not rock the D,basically they > could not hold a candle next to Jeff Mills.Jeff is xtremly > competetive so he really wanted to get
Re: [313] UR soldiers
Why did Public Enemy called thier troops the Security of the first world and parade about on stage with uzis? Part publicity and part to visually enforce the politics that thier music embroiled itself in. UR talk about fighting the programmers by deprogramming the population through sonic assaults, the idea of them being soldiers just enforces this message. Personally I don't take it all 'too' seriously, but the whole mythology that surrounds the entire UR camp (including Drexciya, The Martian etc..) does add a certain dialogue to thier music which, for me, does actually enhance it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: [313] UR soldiers > Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers > > Start of message text > > Going back to those questions; > > 'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' > > Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? > I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and stories which > help their image. > > What do other people think?? > > - End of message text > > This e-mail is sent by the above named in their > individual, non-business capacity and is not on > behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. > > PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming > e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and > telecommunications systems. > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks
1 inbetween - 1 shorty - bout Identity - the culture is a construction based on the things we got planted inside :D and the things we choose ourself.. the idea of a nation is the most negative methaphysical construction I can think off - but it is a methapysical idea that became reality long time ago - people have feet to walk over the land, built machines to drive, swim and fly - but people are regulated by the idea of territory I have two passports 4 real and I can enter other territorys different then people coming from Africa - I have much better chances to make an easy living - this is unfair - and it´s reality - dont stop moving - -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] about the members
I'm an media/audio student at LCC (lcc.edu) with about a year left here then I'm on to a 4 year school. which by the way I'm having problems finding one with a music studio production program (every school has a audio program, but your making audio posts for video I dont want to do that news room crap) if any one knows of a good audio school in michigan (prefer detroit area) let me know. I also produce music. nothing lately but my www.mp3.com/i_majin is still up that was a trio (2 list members 1 not) and my first atempt at electronic music (i've played in several diferent bands from classic rock to bluegrass, blues to cheese country was a music theory student for a bit) since the break up I have been concertrating on figuring out how my new equipment works and dj'ing. scotto - Original Message - From: "T.J.Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: [313] about the members > Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? > > Me: > 27 yo > I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). > I live in the detroit metro area. > I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. > I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). > > Your turn... ;) > > TJ > www.wireframerecords.com > www.mp313.com > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR soldiers
> Memo from Alex Bond: > > Going back to those questions; > > 'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' > > Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? > I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and > stories which > help their image. > > What do other people think?? I dunno what other people think, but a few years ago Mad Mike posted this message on 313 answering your question: --- Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 03:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Somewhere In Detroit Subject: Re: (313) DJs That History Forgot 1 On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Somewhere In Detroit wrote: > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, rbcIII the lovebot wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, Robert Smith wrote: > > > > > From what I know of Mad Mike, they don't want to be. More friendships > > > are made and more battles are won in the underground rather than on the > > > surface. More substance, less flash. > > > > Well, I take the militant underground stance of the UR crew with a grain > > of salt. They often dis +8 an others for licensing to big labels but... > > > > 1) Tresor and Tresor II (NovaMute) have UR tracks on them. This is the > > same label which licenses Probe and Plastikman and FUSE... > > > > 2) Drexciya on WARP > > > > 3) Drexciya on Rephlex > > > > 4) UR on New Electronica compilations. > > > > Many more examples can be found I'm sure. I don't think WARP, Mute > > records and New Electronica are any better than R&S. They pimp just like > > Renaat! > > > > So this "anti white techno" stance is not very solid IMO. I don't mind > > though. I happen to think the Tresor and Tresor II comps the best > > NovaMute put out. I think Drexciya deserves the exposure they get on > > labels like Warp and Rephlex. I love all of the releases that New > > Electronica has put out (esp. the new Reflections On Reflections) and > > think UR are a great compliment to the other srtists featured. > > > > I take the UR, Mad Mike, and Drexciya public statements as part of their > > "act". Much like the facade of some Metal bands who act like devil > > worshippers. It's all entertainment and good at that. I just happen to > > think the whole "at war with the commercial forces" theme a pretty cool > > one. > > > > -robert > > > > --> ___ _ _ _ _ > > / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ > > / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) |__ > >/__\\/|_/|_|\_/ ( *electronic* ) > > > Attn;Lovebot > I dont get out in cyberspace very often so please forgive my > net etiquette or any words I may mispell,I do very much app- > reciate Robert Smith"s passionate defense of UR,but I am a > fighter and in this instance I will come out of the shadows > in defense of my Label and what it stands for!First regarding > Drexciya - It hurts me just as much as anyone else who loves > true Underground music from the source to see a group that > UR as a Label helped lift from the streets into international > underground acclaim.Dont forget these projects on UR were not > Drexciyas first outings,their first outings on their own label > did not farewell at all.You guys cannot imagine the type of > time and energy both financially and studiowise that goes into > making 4 trak material good enough to make a record out of. > Matter of fact most people cant make 4 trak projects into > good sounding records,but at UR thats what we did because > I heard something in those traks - I heard some brothers > who were using their imaginations to the max,I heard kids > who were pure at heart and knew nothing of the international > complexities of this music,I heard dreams.It is very,very > difficult to descibe what it feels like to lose talented > people the caliber of Jeff Mills,Robert Hood or Drexciya > not to lose them due to arguments or disagreements,but to > lose them due to the environment here in Detroit.It is a > very difficult place to stay in especially if you have been > abroad or know others that have been.After returning some > people are never the same! Jeff Mills was a world class DJ > a talent the world now enjoys.He had nowhere to play here in > Detroit we would watch as DJ after DJ would come play Detroit > and for all the hype could not rock the D,basically they > could not hold a candle next to Jeff Mills.Jeff is xtremly > competetive so he really wanted to get out there and kik ass > So when his chance came in 1992 at the Limelite club in N.Y > he took it! HE knew and I knew that he would never come back! > I never call Jeff a sellout c
[313] 4 Hero
I remember the time I heard Mr Kirks Nightmare for the first time. Eddie Richards dropped it between 33 and a third queens's 'Searching' and Cybersonik's 'Technarchy'. Basically New York House into early breakbeat/Hardcore into Techno. Those were the days :) I remember when all DJ sets were like this. Basically I think less people should limit thier intake, be it musically or information, to any one genre. There was a time when the distinctions weren't as prounounced. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR soldiers
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Going back to those questions; 'Why do UR call themselves soldiers?' Don't know, Is it part of a marketing ploy? I always thought they trod a fine-line between truths and stories which help their image. What do other people think?? - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 4hero
The most 313style 4hero projects would probably be Jacob's Optical Staircase (including some Juan Atkins collaborations) and the Nu Era releases (1/2 of 4hero) recent releases under the name 4hero are more jazzy drum in bass, earlier releases more hardcore. they've put out a lot of material going back to the early breakbeat era. Reinforced and 2000 Black are related labels they run. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
Name: George Jones IV Alias: Logic7, Subject28 Occupation: Technical Systems Administrator - PentaMark WorldWide (Chrysler's only marketing/ad firm) Residence: Sterling Heights, Mi I produce music as a hobby, but I'm gonna try to do more with it this year. I DJ occasionally around Detroit. I'm also into graphic design, programming, and 3D animation. My main website is http://www.geocities.com/labwerx and for design it's http://www.geocities.com/labwerx/design . Next... -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] about the members Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Total Nonsense
> Dear ladys, > > would you mind not making this posting only look ridiculous ? > > would you mind pointing out the things you dont agree with ? > > would you mind showing up your own thoughts ? > > What I was doing was showing up some complicated stuff - > > also including some deep feelings > > Its not easy to go out there, this way - > > to talk about the harder things in life > > I can imagine there might be views that people do not agree with > > or some things were not explained the best way, they should be > > why dont you pick out the subjects that you dont agree with > > or you might do know better ? > > this way you deny lots of stuff > > too many things I would think > > >> I think you've had too many bites from those tsetse flies. I suggest you > go >> and have a lie down. > >> no more drugs for *you*. > This list is going to hell in a handbasket- in the last few months I have read more NONSENSE than in the last three years combined- what is happening here? Jason Brunton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] again + again
Plus it must have been about that time people like Juan Atkins started experimenting with drum and bass. I especially recall his track off the True People LP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The links between 4Hero and Detroit go back for almost a decade. Mark+Dego > compiled the rather excellent 'Deepest Shade of Techno' album, they made > techno tracks as Nu Era and the Detroit influences on their Jacob's Optical > Stairway work are very obvious too. The track 'Something Happened on Dollis > Hill' by The Infiltrator (Andre Holland) on the 'Interstellar Fugitives' > album is a reference to where the 4Hero studio is. > > And I agree with Marsel that 'Black Secret Technology' is at least as much > a Detroit techno album as a drum 'n bass album. It's the album that got me > into drum 'n bass. Released in '95 and it still sounds fresh. > > Otto > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] again & again
neontsetse, I think you should know, I don't think I've understood anything you've ever posted. -s _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] again + again
Ian Cheshire wrote: >4hero? > >-Original Message- >From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 31 January 2002 13:58 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] again + again > > >Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? The links between 4Hero and Detroit go back for almost a decade. Mark+Dego compiled the rather excellent 'Deepest Shade of Techno' album, they made techno tracks as Nu Era and the Detroit influences on their Jacob's Optical Stairway work are very obvious too. The track 'Something Happened on Dollis Hill' by The Infiltrator (Andre Holland) on the 'Interstellar Fugitives' album is a reference to where the 4Hero studio is. And I agree with Marsel that 'Black Secret Technology' is at least as much a Detroit techno album as a drum 'n bass album. It's the album that got me into drum 'n bass. Released in '95 and it still sounds fresh. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
all I can say to this is: word. :) -Joe -- R17 is not a fixed velocity, but it is clearly far too fast. -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious So let see if I get this rightwhat you are saying is because of a question that was raised about how Layo & Bushwacka! are behind the desks, which in turn broke off into a discussion about tech-house and the UK side of it - which predominantly is heralded in the press by people with Caucasian physical features - we are now actively, though unconsciously, engaged in the oppression of Palestine, Northern Ireland, and Nigeria? >- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - >nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, >but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face You are confusing nationality with culture and lineage - your lineage is Ewok/German - your nationality is whatever country you have your citizenship in, and your culture is whatever group of people you identify with. Example: An Jewish Ethiopian naturalized into the US. This particular person's nationality is American, their culture is Jewish and their lineage is Ethiopian. Your nationality is not a metaphysical construction - your culture is. And there is no excuse for poor spelling - your computer will even do it for you. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/30/02 Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious 03:25 PM Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture in a "classical colonial" tradition, there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails, and understand, when I´m doing the same kind of mistakes please tell me and teach me - shoutz m -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikat
[313] tonight|touch
touch /v/ to leave a mark or impression : thursday:[jan. 31] colette [chicago] john arnold [detroit] : ghostly glass room: sam valenti iv matthew dear tadd mullinix : the necto 516 liberty, ann arbor 18+ doors @ 9pm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
Right well i'll go first I am a DJ from London. my site is www.kube72.co.uk very basic although soon to be uploading mixes etc when ADSL gets put in my home! I love LOST and I know John Kennedy and the Prime boys, the man behind Grain and Toby form Bleep 43. (Hi Toby..) I do not produce but my best friend does. He used to be called PussyCutz and was signed to TAG Records, they had an old remix done by Laidback luke ( if anyone knows of that wow I would be impressed). So thats me... -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 14:57 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] about the members Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] broken beat WTF
what the hell is broken beat anyway? ive heard it mentioned a few times - is it what used to be called drill 'n' bass (about as bad a genre name as office party music) cheers neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] about the members
Ok, you guys might think this is dumb, but I was thinking it would be cool if we all had a better idea who we were talking to. What do you guys do for a living? How many of you are producers/DJs? Is music a hobby or your job? Me: 27 yo I design automobile axles for Visteon (Tier 1 supplier). I live in the detroit metro area. I go to school for engineering at Lawrence Tech during the night. I produce techno tracks as a hobby and DJ them too (sometimes). Your turn... ;) TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: again + again
yeah I would definately check them out../ they are good , some very interesting albums they have done.. -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 14:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: again + again Whenever I see 4hero mentioned on the list I initially think of the 4art 12 by Mills, then I think for a minute, realize that it is not, then pass it off... Are they worth checking out? On Thu, 31 January 2002, Dan Sicko wrote: > > Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. > > -d > > At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: > >Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... > > > > > > > >On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? > >> > >> >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > >> >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> > > >> >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > >> > >> mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 > >> > >> doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - > >> > >> > >> go ahead :D > >> > >> -- > >> LoveThemPlanetZ > >> peoplez > >> plantz > >> peaze > >> pluz > >> m > >> > >> GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > >> http://www.gmx.net > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >TJ > >www.wireframerecords.com > >www.mp313.com > > > >PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > >http://www.peoplepc.com > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: again + again
Did a good mix of "Amazon" on UR Millenium to Millenium.. IMHO they are a bit hit 'n' miss (sorry) - something they did on Talkin Loud was good though - sorry for being vague. - Original Message - From: T.J.Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [313] Re: again + again > Whenever I see 4hero mentioned on the list I initially think of the 4art 12 by Mills, then I think for a minute, realize that it is not, then pass it off... > > Are they worth checking out? > > > > > On Thu, 31 January 2002, Dan Sicko wrote: > > > > > Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. > > > > -d > > > > At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: > > >Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? > > >> > > >> >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > > >> >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > > >> > > > >> >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > > >> > > >> mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 > > >> > > >> doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - > > >> > > >> > > >> go ahead :D > > >> > > >> -- > > >> LoveThemPlanetZ > > >> peoplez > > >> plantz > > >> peaze > > >> pluz > > >> m > > >> > > >> GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > > >> http://www.gmx.net > > >> > > >> > > > - > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >TJ > > >www.wireframerecords.com > > >www.mp313.com > > > > > >PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > > >http://www.peoplepc.com > > > > > >- > > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > TJ > www.wireframerecords.com > www.mp313.com > > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: again + again
Whenever I see 4hero mentioned on the list I initially think of the 4art 12 by Mills, then I think for a minute, realize that it is not, then pass it off... Are they worth checking out? On Thu, 31 January 2002, Dan Sicko wrote: > > Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. > > -d > > At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: > >Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... > > > > > > > >On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the > >> post? > >> > >> >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > >> >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> > > >> >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > >> > >> mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 > >> > >> doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere > >> else - > >> > >> > >> go ahead :D > >> > >> -- > >> LoveThemPlanetZ > >> peoplez > >> plantz > >> peaze > >> pluz > >> m > >> > >> GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > >> http://www.gmx.net > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >TJ > >www.wireframerecords.com > >www.mp313.com > > > >PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > >http://www.peoplepc.com > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: again + again
bad day..sorry guys/gals no harm meant ... :0) -Original Message- From: Dan Sicko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 14:47 To: T.J.Johnson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: again + again Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. -d At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: >Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... > > > >On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? >> >> >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk >> >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. >> > >> >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? >> >> mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 >> >> doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - >> >> >> go ahead :D >> >> -- >> LoveThemPlanetZ >> peoplez >> plantz >> peaze >> pluz >> m >> >> GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. >> http://www.gmx.net >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >TJ >www.wireframerecords.com >www.mp313.com > >PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. >http://www.peoplepc.com > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: again + again
np. a guy called gerald - black secret technology this is more detroit than drum 'n bass to me.. :) At 1/31/2002 -0500 09:47, you wrote: Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. -d At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - .. . :: http://nomorewords.net
Re: [313] Re: again + again
Yikes, if we can't talk about 4Hero on 313, things must be grim. -d At 6:34 AM -0800 1/31/2002, T.J.Johnson wrote: Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - go ahead :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious
So let see if I get this rightwhat you are saying is because of a question that was raised about how Layo & Bushwacka! are behind the desks, which in turn broke off into a discussion about tech-house and the UK side of it - which predominantly is heralded in the press by people with Caucasian physical features - we are now actively, though unconsciously, engaged in the oppression of Palestine, Northern Ireland, and Nigeria? >- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - >nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, >but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face You are confusing nationality with culture and lineage - your lineage is Ewok/German - your nationality is whatever country you have your citizenship in, and your culture is whatever group of people you identify with. Example: An Jewish Ethiopian naturalized into the US. This particular person's nationality is American, their culture is Jewish and their lineage is Ethiopian. Your nationality is not a metaphysical construction - your culture is. And there is no excuse for poor spelling - your computer will even do it for you. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] x.netTo: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 01/30/02 Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious 03:25 PM Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ? I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" I´m gonna stop the joking now, as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff - let me xplain - it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - - me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ - nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez, other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world order" - - Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland etc.. cauze of that - many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - cauze of that - the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess cauze of that now - all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line - music always is (transformed by artists) - if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music", if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george clinton, 4hero This list is about the "313-construction" It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit Most artists are black artists who created this music, now the views of many people about this music are coming from various perspectives, but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and white" musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background of it ? I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the pop-aspect) See, I don´t want to be over- preachy and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists though the shit keeps happening all the time - but I think we all do have the responsibility to take care ... much more care ... and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, to enjoy it 100 %, but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction, that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture in a "classical colonial" tradition, there will be those wrong spelled g
Re: [313] Re: again + again
Oh ok! Sorry I didn't know they wer DnB... On Thu, 31 January 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? > > >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > > > >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > > mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 > > doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - > > > go ahead :D > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: again + again
well you know what I mean.. But it causes me to say thisand please take this the right way - as we are all friends here.. I think sometimes we all talk to much you know and don't do anything about it.. we all look upto Jeff Mills and The whole detroit thing because these peoiple re4ally made a difference and most of us and even me have fallen into this trap were we are quite happy to sit back and go with the flow Well who out us all is gona make history like these people did? The only person I think who is is Oliver Ho..ok am from the Uk and it could be biased but instaed of talking the walk,why don't we as a unit walk the walk. who here is gona be noticed in 25 years time as being the breed who change Techno for the generation to come? Now theres a question for you to all talk about but don't sit down tonite/today and do somehting differne t, make techno go in the direction it naturally should take us all Hisroty repeats itself,why should techno? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 14:01 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: again + again > Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - go ahead :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: again + again
> Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? >> If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk >> about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > >> Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? mentioning 4hero - them from the paralell universe of 313 doesn´t mean th whole mail was about d+b, as their music is somewhere else - go ahead :D -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] again + again
4hero? -Original Message- From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] again + again Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? On Thu, 31 January 2002, Ian Cheshire wrote: > > erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick.. > > If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > > Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > > I am happy you accept I could be wrong :) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2002 13:43 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] again + again > > > dear list-people, > > thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list - > > some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand > > my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - > > What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, > > that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level - > > Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem > > but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger > background - > > But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things > behind the art, > > we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - > > let me come up with nu questions - > > What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? > > Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? > > Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is > "black music" ? > > Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? > > ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills, > Juan Atkins ... > > yes yes, various attitudes and messages included - > > but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... > > otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4 > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] again + again
Where was there even a hint of Drum n Bass mentioned in the post? On Thu, 31 January 2002, Ian Cheshire wrote: > > erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick.. > > If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk > about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. > > Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? > > I am happy you accept I could be wrong :) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 January 2002 13:43 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] again + again > > > dear list-people, > > thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list - > > some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand > > my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - > > What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, > > that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level - > > Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem > > but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger > background - > > But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things > behind the art, > > we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - > > let me come up with nu questions - > > What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? > > Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? > > Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is > "black music" ? > > Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? > > ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills, > Juan Atkins ... > > yes yes, various attitudes and messages included - > > but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... > > otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4 > > -- > LoveThemPlanetZ > peoplez > plantz > peaze > pluz > m > > GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > http://www.gmx.net > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.mp313.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] again + again
erm maybe you have the wrong end of the stick.. If you want to talk about Drum & Bass ,,,maybe you should talk about Drum & Bass on a Drum & bass forum not a 313 forum.. Is anyone in agreement or have I misread his email? I am happy you accept I could be wrong :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2002 13:43 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] again + again dear list-people, thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list - some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level - Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger background - But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things behind the art, we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - let me come up with nu questions - What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is "black music" ? Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills, Juan Atkins ... yes yes, various attitudes and messages included - but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4 -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] again + again
dear list-people, thanx 4 sending me many comments of-list - some positive but many mails saying they don´t understand my "english":) or the purpose cauze of the amount of thoughts - What I was trying to say and I said that many times be4, that I think, it´s important to reflect the 313-culture on a higher level - Me, myself I am not the best one to do this becauze of the language problem but mainly becauze I know there are people here with a much stronger background - But if we "only" move the titles around and not stepping into the things behind the art, we act respectless, as we are ignorant, as we don´t listen, don´t care - let me come up with nu questions - What do you know about influences of groups like Nucleus ? Why are UR calling themselves souldiers ? Why do you think are 4 Hero currently highlighting the aspect their music is "black music" ? Why do we not speak more here about the "messages" in the art ? ... Moodyman, Theo Parrish, Robert Hood, Mike Grant, Octave One, UR, Mills, Juan Atkins ... yes yes, various attitudes and messages included - but that´s just one more reason to talk about it ... otherwise I don´t know what this list is made 4 -- LoveThemPlanetZ peoplez plantz peaze pluz m GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Oliver Ho / Reviews
After recent comments on this board london bound peeps may be interested to know that Oliver Ho is playing with James Ruskin on Thursday 7th February for 'base' at the Velvet Underground. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] jeff mills stars again
Odeluga, Ken wrote: > It's always bemusing to realize how NARROW people are! First they want it > ALL harder harder, faster faster, no chords, no melodies, no vocals - now > it's gotta be a particular type of venue, perhaps with a particular type of > regular clientelle ... What next? Floor plan measurements? Standardized > drinks? Amen to that! You know things have gone horribly wrong when you hear a club owner talk about 'expectations management'... ... *shudder* ... Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] jeff mills stars again
Phonopsia wrote: > Don't we want to see our favorite DJs in a setting > packed with purists who are all going nuts? Isn't this what made those > after-hours at DEMF 2 so special this year - in direct counterpoint to the > festival itself? Absolutely. Even though the HFF (High-Fidelity-Factor) of that particular moment was probably way off the scale, there's something to be said for at least five punters getting a simultaneous grin on their faces when Metro Area sneaked in a Lil' Louis sample during their liveset :) And the Trackmode/Sound Signatures party of course, but that one was in a league of its own anyway. I don't even know if that was a purist crowd, but if it was, it was purist in the good sense: looking for that pure groove. And boy, did we get it for six hours straight! Still smiling at the thought, Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Tim Jackiw and Tundra Music
Minto George wrote: > Whew a little break from the Mills posts. This Label > sounds promising if they got guys like Tim Jackiw > releasing stuff for the label. What's the news with > the re-release of That Offworld ep he did? Otto, > Jason?? any news guys? It's going to happen, don't worry. It's just that I don't want to rush things for this EP because it's so special. It's been ignored once by distributors and media and I'm not going to let that happen again, so I want to make sure everything is perfect, but that takes time. > as for releases I've been diggin lately, I really dig > the dimension 5 control complex 12" on Delsin and am > really looking forward to the forthcoming album. I heard the album last week and the ep was a perfect taste of things to come. Very nice indeed! Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: Radioactive Man
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Keith Tenniswood, long-term accomplice and brother-in-arms of Sir Andrew Weatherall... did he release anything onhis own bar the Uranium EP ? Gwendal He's got a (pretty damn good) album out on RGC which should be fairly easy to find, and is well worth tracking down. I have to confess I kind of fell into the trap of thinking he was the "less talented one" until I heard him play live. -s _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Tresor : True Spirit
That's how it reads to me, although I guess they might have trouble squeezing all those tracks listed for the CDs onto eight sides of vinyl! TOM > >>The three CDs and two double-EPs of TRUE SPIRIT > > This may be wishful thinking but I read this as saying that in addition to > the 3 CDs there will be 2 12" double-packs released as well?? > > Pleaas tell me I am right on this!!;-) > > m* > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Tresor : True Spirit
>>The three CDs and two double-EPs of TRUE SPIRIT This may be wishful thinking but I read this as saying that in addition to the 3 CDs there will be 2 12" double-packs released as well?? Pleaas tell me I am right on this!!;-) m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] uk-tech-house
> The mix Francis did for DJ Mag this past year was quite nice. > I believe all tracks were Euka tracks They were actually all tracks distributed by Intergroove...some from Eukahouse, but also some from Clip, Intensiv and Plastic City...decent CD if memory serves. Cheers, m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 2001 Favorites....
Well I have been lagging on this but here are 10 of my favorite records of 2001 in no particular order... Jill Scott Scott Free White Max Ernst 46 Valentino EP Max Ernst & Friends Max E 8 AJ Hunter Pressure Point EP Parotic Music PAR 9 DFA Microstructural Characterization Surveillance SURV 007 James Ruskin Into Submission Tresor Tre 173 Genie & Laurent Ho Winter Activities ANLX ANLX 10 Africanism Les Enfants Du Bled Yellow YP 055 Jeff Mills The Electrical Experience Purpose Maker PM-014 Safety Session Maru Part 1 Drumcode DC 23 Larry Heard Direct Drive Track Mode TM 032 Happy 2002 y'all... m* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] re: Charles Webster
Mad'R- As far as I'm concerned, the new Charles Webster album is briliant. Not your average run-of-the-mill house album, you'll find that Charles gets down to business by creating an album that's deep in soul, R&B, and some ultra deep house rhythms. He collaborates with quite a few people, including vocalist Sara Jay from Massive Attack, creating an album that FEELS like an album - if that makes sense. It's refreshing to hear a "house-producer" put out an album that's not a compilation of dance singles and decides to label it an album. Ok. I'll stop tooting on and on about it, but I highly recommend it. Well worth it. For a full review of the album, check into FUTUREBPM.COM, and if you want even more, we did a feature interview with the funk-soul-brotha... Enjoy... Kered = www.futurebpm.com =
