Re: courier-imapd, folders and delivery
> > I want to switch from POP3 to IMAP (finally). > > I cannot imagine why any enterprise would want to switch from POP3 to > IMAP. They are designed to do completely different things. POP3 > exists to get the email the heck off your server as quickly as > possible, whereas IMAP is designed to keep the email on your server > forever. > > Unless you chose the wrong protocol in the first place, why are you > switching? Firstly, I'm not an enterprise :) Secondly, POP3 is easily chosen because it's more compatible in general. There are hardly any MUA:s out there that doesn't support it properly, while the same is not true for IMAP. I've switched to IMAP because it gives me more freedom to switch MUAs and access my mail from anywhere with an IMAP capable client. Wheather the mail is stored locally or on the server doesn't make much difference in my cast, except in so far as it affects availability. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org PGP signature
Re: courier-imapd, folders and delivery
> There is a courier-imap mailing list! Join it! Thanks! I found it yesterday - after having sent my question of course (it's the natural order of things). > In the meantime, it's pretty simple. Set $MAILDIR and $DEFAULT to $HOME/Maildir/ Actually, my problem was that I wanted procmail or maildrop (maildrop in thsi case) to deliver to subfolders, and not just the Maildir (I phrased my question incorrectly). I've since discovered that courier doesn't use some magic format, but the sub folders where dot files (dot directories). I just didn't see them with an ls -l. Some times the hidden dot file approach works *too* well :) -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org
Re: courier-imapd, folders and delivery
In a message dated Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:04:36AM +0200, Peter Schuller wrote: > My problem is that IMAP folders aren't separate Maildirs. So how do I > accomplish the task of delivering mail to specific IMAP folders using > procmail (or some other equivalent tool; I only need to filter for > mailinglists, nothing advanced)? There is a courier-imap mailing list! Join it! In the meantime, it's pretty simple. Set $MAILDIR and $DEFAULT to $HOME/Maildir/ Then, :0 * From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] .satan/ Will write messages to the Maildir used for that folder under a default Courier install. -- rjbs PGP signature
Re: courier-imapd, folders and delivery
Peter Schuller writes: > I want to switch from POP3 to IMAP (finally). I cannot imagine why any enterprise would want to switch from POP3 to IMAP. They are designed to do completely different things. POP3 exists to get the email the heck off your server as quickly as possible, whereas IMAP is designed to keep the email on your server forever. Unless you chose the wrong protocol in the first place, why are you switching? -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | #exclude Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX |
courier-imapd, folders and delivery
Hello, this isn't entirely qmail related, but since courier-imapd is only qmail users... I want to switch from POP3 to IMAP (finally). That means I'll have to do filtering on the server, like I do locally now with procmail. My problem is that IMAP folders aren't separate Maildirs. So how do I accomplish the task of delivering mail to specific IMAP folders using procmail (or some other equivalent tool; I only need to filter for mailinglists, nothing advanced)? Thanks, -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org PGP signature
RE: courier-imap and tcpserver ?
this is working nicely for me... http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/2000/04/msg01189.html -- Michael Boyiazis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc. > -Original Message- > From: Oden Eriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: courier-imap and tcpserver ? > > > Hi list, > > I wonder if anyone has courier-imap running under tcpserver, > and if so could > share how it was done? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > Regards // Oden Eriksson > Kvikkjokk Networks >
courier-imap and tcpserver ?
Hi list, I wonder if anyone has courier-imap running under tcpserver, and if so could share how it was done? Thanks in advance. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson Kvikkjokk Networks
Qmail & courier Imap.....
Hello. Maybe this is not the correct place for this question but. I am trying to install the qmail and with the courier imap server.I think qmail is running and is set up corectly but about courier imap dont know much>anybody knows how i can check whether it run or no.I have Redhat 7.0 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
pine + courier-imap
excuse me for question too particular!!! I have a problem with PINE version <4.00 How can I see the all folders created on the server ?? With the PINE versions >4.00 it's possible with CollectionList option but with version <4 it'is impossible for me I have tried (without success) with "folder-collection" option (in setup) specifying {server-imap-name}inbox[] or {server-imap-name}Maildir/[] or {server-imap-name}/[] and so on... I have downloaded from internet many manual written by System Managers of American Universities for PINE configuration but I haven't found the solution!! Where is the solution or is there the solution ?? thanks. == MASSIMO QUINTINI - Osservatorio Astronomico Collurania Teramo (O.A.C.T.) = Via Mentore Maggini s.n.c. - 64100 TERAMO (Italy)= Tel:39-0861.210490 Fax:39-0861.210492 http://www.te.astro.it = ==
courier-imap
Dear all,I install the courier-imap and no error when installI can receive the mail but can't send outif I use pop3 the server can send out email ,if I use imap the server can'tsend out email, can someone tell me what is problemregardsedward
Courier Problems was UW IMAP Patch
Like Mike said, if you have a lot of client side filters Eudora will thrash you Courier IMAP server bad. If you want to see why switch on debugging in Courier IMAP, it seems that Eudora pulls all messages that match the filter, and it goes through each filter in turn, it also does some wierd UID requesting. Courier hates it the system load goes astronomical at these points. Mike, try the UW IMAP watch these problems dissappear, though I could not tell you why. Herbie PS I am not subscribed to this list anymore I just check the web digest a couple of times a day, so I am not able to respond to any message personally, as your e-mail address does not appear in the digest.
Re: qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
dennis wrote: > Hi all.. > > Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using > qmail-ldap ? obviously you will use ldap for authentication because password should be same for pop-3 and imap , isnt it ? > > > How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to > handle authentication via ldap ? > you just have to install openldap SDK on the same mechine on which you are planning to install courier-imap , and run ./configure make , make install it will get compiled with ldap authentication support , if not , then you may have to edit some paths in makefile of courier-imap > > Dennis
Re: Compile error Courier-imap
The Afif wrote: > I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap... Try the courier mailing list, available for subscription at http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users. This is off-topic for qmail. ---Kris Kelley
Re: qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 10:45:20AM +1100, dennis wrote: > Hi all.. > Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using > qmail-ldap ? > How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to > handle authentication via ldap ? You are on the wrong list, courier imap has its own list. qmail-ldap has its own list too, but this isn't the right one too ;-)) Either use courier-imap's authdeamon against ldap (documented in README or so) or start it like qpop3d under tcpserver, s/t like tcpserver auth_imap imapd Maildir Of couse you need to add pathes and options. This isn't documented anywhere yet. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Compile error Courier-imap
your OS is solaris ? - Original Message - From: "The Afif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: Compile error Courier-imap > Dear Miliser, > > I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message > when I compile is like this > [afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure > > checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot cre > ate executables. > configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj > > need your solution pls > > Tks & regards, > The Afif > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Compile error Courier-imap
Dear Miliser, I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message when I compile is like this [afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot cre ate executables. configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj need your solution pls Tks & regards, The Afif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
Hi all.. Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using qmail-ldap ? How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to handle authentication via ldap ? Dennis
Re: Roaming users and Courier IMAP
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 11:30:25PM +1100, Gavin Cameron wrote: > Hi all, > > I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after > POP3 to relay through the mail server. > > We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for > relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into > couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a > successful IMAP login? Instead of such kludges, why not implement ESMTP AUTH instead? There are patches available via www.qmail.org that allow this. That way your users can relay mail independently of the order (i.e. they can even relay Email without checking via POP/IMAP first). Naturally, the Courier SMTP server natively supports AUTH (and STARTTLS for that matter) AUTH kicks ass ;-) -- Cheers Jason Haar Unix/Special Projects, Trimble NZ Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
Re: Roaming users and Courier IMAP
Gavin Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after > POP3 to relay through the mail server. > > We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for > relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into > couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a > successful IMAP login? Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl can do exactly this, for POP3 and Courier IMAP. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Roaming users and Courier IMAP
Hi all, I currently have my system setup so that roaming users can use smtp after POP3 to relay through the mail server. We would also like to allow roaming IMAP server to use the server for relaying. Does anyone have a small program/script that I can slot into couriertcpd that will update smtpd's tcpserver access file after a successful IMAP login? Thanks in advance, Gavin
Delivering to Courier imap userdb maildirs
What's the best way to tell qmail to deliver mail to virtual maildirs ? I have Courier imap setup for userdb authentication, with mailboxes under /home/vmail/maildir-user TIA, - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Courier or qmail
Sean Reifschneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was kind of put off by the rejection of my message to the Courier > mailing list. I detailed what all I had done and what the failure > was. I wasn't interested in subscribing, sending the message, then > unsubscribing. Whatever. I don't think it's unreasonable for a mailing list to only accept mail from subscribers. Why you expect this is beyond me -- YOUR laziness is not their problem, especially when the reason mailing lists do this is to avoid transmitting spam. -Matt -- | Matthew J. Brown - Senior Network Administrator - NBCi Shopping | | 1983 W. 190th St, Suite 100, Torrance CA 90504 | | Phone: (310) 538-7122| Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cell: (714) 457-1854| Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Courier or qmail
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 04:39:21PM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: >Has anyone on the list used Courier as a complete mail server? If so, how >does it compare to qmail? I spent about 5 hours evaluating it, and couldn't get it to act as a simple mail server. This was a few months ago, so I'm sure the status has changed, but I don't think that Courier is quite as stable as QMail... Test it and find out if it works for your needs. I was kind of put off by the rejection of my message to the Courier mailing list. I detailed what all I had done and what the failure was. I wasn't interested in subscribing, sending the message, then unsubscribing. Whatever. Sean -- "When you first started at Pacific Tech you were well on your way to becoming another Einstein and then you know what happened?" "I got a haircut?" Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python
Re: Courier or qmail
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 04:39:21PM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: > Has anyone on the list used Courier as a complete mail server? If so, > how does it compare to qmail? > > I started looking at qmail because of the security flaws that other's > have reported in sendmail. However, now that I'm looking more into > qmail, the lack of static licensing concerns me. I may be wrong, but > from the looks of it, Courier does most of what qmail does, and > provides a more standard license with the software. Mr. Sam's code seems to be pretty solid. We're using Courier-IMAP together w/ qmail and vpopmail. However, I would be a little uncomfortable using it in a production environment until it has obtained a little maturity. There are still bugs being found and squashed fairly regularly... qmail, on the other hand, is as rock-solid MTA. Just my personal opinion. I don't know enough C to truly evaluate the code on either one. Ben -- Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101 Bitstream Underground www.bitstream.net
Courier or qmail
Well, it seems the answer to my last question has raised yet another. Has anyone on the list used Courier as a complete mail server? If so, how does it compare to qmail? I started looking at qmail because of the security flaws that other's have reported in sendmail. However, now that I'm looking more into qmail, the lack of static licensing concerns me. I may be wrong, but from the looks of it, Courier does most of what qmail does, and provides a more standard license with the software. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, just looking for advice from other more experience Mail Server Admins. Jamin W. Collins
Multilog + Courier-imap Question
I have trouble combine these two. What I have done: 1. install daemontools, qmail and courier-imap successfully (all are newest version) 2. ./run file for courier-imap #!/bin/sh exec /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/imapd.rc start 3. ./log/run file #!/bin/sh exec multilog t /var/log/courier-imapd 4. edit "couriertcpd" line in file imapd.rc (1) delete -stderrlogger option (2) add 2>&1 to the end What I got: Nothing appears in /var/log/courier-imapd but new .u files continue to appear What I want: using multilog instead of logger If anybody knows how to solve it, please reply to this message. Thanks a lot! = === Luby Gao Department of Computer Science Hua Zhong University of Science and Technology Wu Han, Hu Bei, 430074 P. R. China Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/
Re: Courier
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: >Has anyone checked it out? I picked it up and tried to set up a test mail server with it. It indeed does seem interesting... This was a couple of months ago, so I don't remember the details, but I ran into a problem where it just wasn't delivering mail to the test user/domain I set up. I spent several hours following the documentation and FAQ. The FAQ had some entries about what I was seeing, and I verified I followed the instructions exactly. I'd hope it would be fixed by now, but I haven't had another 5 hours to try mucking with it again. Sean -- kill -HUMP : Process immediately stops what it's doing and fork(2)s a child process, which runs as a daemon. -- Sean Reifschneider, 1998 Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python
Re: Courier
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 01:08:15PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote: > At the very least give maildrop a go. I was a die-hard procmail user for > many years, but was beginning to have too many occassions of procmail > swallowing all the RAM on my workstation to process a large mail message > (procmail does all processing in RAM). I agree that maildrop is definitely worth a try. I find the syntax of the filter file much clearer than procmail's, and I imagine my users do as well. Built-in support for Maildirs in maildrop is a big win. I'm surprised that maildrop doesn't have a bigger presence on http://www.qmail.org. I have also used courier-imap with no problems. Again, built-in Maildir support is great. ---Matt
Re: Courier
Ben Beuchler wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 03:20:22PM -0200, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > > > I have not used the complete MTA also (maybe I'll try it when it get > > 1.0). > > > > But, I have one question: Do you use maildrop with vpopmail? Could you > > get the quota system to work on it? I had some problens on this and to > > make it able to bounce msgs to non-existent accounts. > > I use maildrop w/ vpopmail, but I have not been using quotas. I will be > implementing them soon. > > And to make vpop bounce messages to non-existent accounts, just change > your .qmail-default for the domain to read: > > | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox > Yeah... but the problem would be making this work with maildrop's filters too. Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/ Se você não encontra o sentido das coisas é porque este não se encontra, se cria. Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Re: Courier
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 03:20:22PM -0200, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote: > I have not used the complete MTA also (maybe I'll try it when it get > 1.0). > > But, I have one question: Do you use maildrop with vpopmail? Could you > get the quota system to work on it? I had some problens on this and to > make it able to bounce msgs to non-existent accounts. I use maildrop w/ vpopmail, but I have not been using quotas. I will be implementing them soon. And to make vpop bounce messages to non-existent accounts, just change your .qmail-default for the domain to read: | /var/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox Ben -- Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101 Bitstream Underground www.bitstream.net
Re: Courier
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Re: Courier
Ben Beuchler wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > > > It borrows heavily from qmail (maildirs, extension addresses, > > modularity, delivery instructions) but adds a lot (DSN, filtering, > > IMAP, POP, webmail) and "fixes" things Sam thought qmail did wrong > > (single-RCPT delivery, always-send-8, licensing, no bouncing of local > > recipients during SMTP dialogue, not actively maintained). > > > > I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have > > a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good > > enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the > > one IMAP installation I set up. The Courier web pages don't say much > > about security other than there are four setuid root modules. > > I use Courier-IMAP alongside vpopmail (Courier-IMAP will authenticate > against vpop) and maildrop. Both have impressed me with their stability > and logical design. I have not used the complete MTA, though. > . > . > . Hello people, It's good to hear this talk among such users of qmail! I've been trying Mr. Sam's code for some time now and we're using it alongside vpopmail in our 5k virtualusers server. It's great. I have not used the complete MTA also (maybe I'll try it when it get 1.0). But, I have one question: Do you use maildrop with vpopmail? Could you get the quota system to work on it? I had some problens on this and to make it able to bounce msgs to non-existent accounts. Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/ Se você não encontra o sentido das coisas é porque este não se encontra, se cria. Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Re: Courier
Peter van Dijk wrote: > > . > . > . > Sourceforge is terribly slow here too, by the way. > . > . > . It seems that they had some problems yesterday. Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/ Se você não encontra o sentido das coisas é porque este não se encontra, se cria. Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Re: Courier
Ben Beuchler wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > > > It borrows heavily from qmail (maildirs, extension addresses, > > modularity, delivery instructions) but adds a lot (DSN, filtering, > > IMAP, POP, webmail) and "fixes" things Sam thought qmail did wrong > > (single-RCPT delivery, always-send-8, licensing, no bouncing of local > > recipients during SMTP dialogue, not actively maintained). > > > > I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have > > a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good > > enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the > > one IMAP installation I set up. The Courier web pages don't say much > > about security other than there are four setuid root modules. > > I use Courier-IMAP alongside vpopmail (Courier-IMAP will authenticate > against vpop) and maildrop. Both have impressed me with their stability > and logical design. I have not used the complete MTA, though. > . > . > . Hello people, It's good to hear this talk among such users of qmail! I've been trying Mr. Sam's code for some time now and we're using it alongside vpopmail in our 5k virtualusers server. It's great. I have not used the complete MTA also (maybe I'll try it when it get 1.0). But, I have one question: Do you use maildrop with vpopmail? Could you get the quota system to work on it? I had some problens on this and to make it able to bounce msgs to non-existent accounts. Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/ Se você não encontra o sentido das coisas é porque este não se encontra, se cria. Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Re: Courier
Peter van Dijk wrote: > > . > . > . > Sourceforge is terribly slow here too, by the way. > . > . > . It seems that they had some problems yesterday. Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/ Se você não encontra o sentido das coisas é porque este não se encontra, se cria. Antoine Saint-Exupéry
Re: Courier
Jason Haar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The rest of Courier is great too - fully ESMTP support for DSN, TLS/SSL, >AUTH along with all the goodies of Qmail we've come to love. > >But as the docs state - it's not the number-crunching monster Qmail is - it >can't beat Qmail on throughput - but for site receiving less than (say) a >million messages a day - it won't matter ;-) Hmm, I didn't see that in the docs--but I didn't read every word. Does it explain why Courier is slower? >BTW, Courier does SMTP, IMAP, Webmail with native support for LDAP/PAM/MySQL >auth backends... Pretty bloody comprehensive... So have you actually run it? -Dave
Re: Courier
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have > a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good > enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the At the very least give maildrop a go. I was a die-hard procmail user for many years, but was beginning to have too many occassions of procmail swallowing all the RAM on my workstation to process a large mail message (procmail does all processing in RAM). maildrop uses tempfiles and so doesn't have that problem, but in all other respects appears to do everything procmail does. The rest of Courier is great too - fully ESMTP support for DSN, TLS/SSL, AUTH along with all the goodies of Qmail we've come to love. But as the docs state - it's not the number-crunching monster Qmail is - it can't beat Qmail on throughput - but for site receiving less than (say) a million messages a day - it won't matter ;-) BTW, Courier does SMTP, IMAP, Webmail with native support for LDAP/PAM/MySQL auth backends... Pretty bloody comprehensive... Just my opinion. -- Cheers Jason Haar Unix/Special Projects, Trimble NZ Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
Re: Courier
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: [snip] > > I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have > a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good > enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the > one IMAP installation I set up. The Courier web pages don't say much > about security other than there are four setuid root modules. > > Has anyone checked it out? Not yet, but reading the documentation makes me doubt if I should. Courier seems to have hardcoded behaviour to reject certain messages based on content, like invalid MIME headers, to 'prevent Courier itself from sending out RFC-incompliant messages'. I don't want my MTA to touch or look at content of messages on SMTP injection. Sourceforge is terribly slow here too, by the way. I might look at courier when I have more time on my hands. Greetz, Peter -- dataloss networks '/ignore-ance is bliss' - me 'Het leven is een stuiterbal, maar de mijne plakt aan t plafond!' - me
Re: Courier
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:18:29PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > It borrows heavily from qmail (maildirs, extension addresses, > modularity, delivery instructions) but adds a lot (DSN, filtering, > IMAP, POP, webmail) and "fixes" things Sam thought qmail did wrong > (single-RCPT delivery, always-send-8, licensing, no bouncing of local > recipients during SMTP dialogue, not actively maintained). > > I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have > a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good > enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the > one IMAP installation I set up. The Courier web pages don't say much > about security other than there are four setuid root modules. I use Courier-IMAP alongside vpopmail (Courier-IMAP will authenticate against vpop) and maildrop. Both have impressed me with their stability and logical design. I have not used the complete MTA, though. What did you find limited about the functionality of Courier-IMAP? Ben -- Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101 Bitstream Underground www.bitstream.net
Courier
Sam Varshavchik has released his MTA, which is called Courier. See: http://courier.sourceforge.net (Is sourceforge always this slow?) Sam is the author of maildrop, courier-imap, and sqwebmail. Courier is still prerelease--though I don't know whether it's considered alpha or beta--but it looks pretty interesting. It borrows heavily from qmail (maildirs, extension addresses, modularity, delivery instructions) but adds a lot (DSN, filtering, IMAP, POP, webmail) and "fixes" things Sam thought qmail did wrong (single-RCPT delivery, always-send-8, licensing, no bouncing of local recipients during SMTP dialogue, not actively maintained). I've grabbed it, but I haven't installed it anywhere yet. I don't have a lot of experience with Sam's code: procmail has always been good enough for me, and courier-imap was too functionally limited for the one IMAP installation I set up. The Courier web pages don't say much about security other than there are four setuid root modules. Has anyone checked it out? -Dave
Please Help. courier SMTP or Qmail SMTP
Our mailing system has near about 2 lacks users and currently we are on NT system. Now we are planning to move to solaris system. I am exploring options like courier , qmail, sendmail etc. After hunting on the net I came to know that many people are using qmail SMTP with courier IMAP server. And qmail SMTP is a most popular SMTP server to handle high load. Can anybody give me compariion of these qmail and courier SMTP servers? I have successfuly installed courier with MSSQL database but could not get qmail working with MSSQL database. That's why I am going for courier servers. Is there anybody having such userbase and using courier servers ( smtp, pop , IMAP ) ? Please Help. Thanx Send and receive mail in Indian languages Register free at http://www.mailjol.com
Re: problem when install qmail+vpopmail+mysql+courier-imap on redhat 6.2??
the error is occure on the first i compile courie-imap,is it need to do so ,and i try it ,the problem is same as befor - Original Message - From: "Joost van Baal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:20 AM Subject: Re: problem when install qmail+vpopmail+mysql+courier-imap on redhat 6.2?? > On Sun, Nov 05, 2000 at 04:42:31AM +0800, rom wrote: > > i want to setup webmail system on my server . now > > the smtp and pop3 service working well with qmail+vpopmail+mysql on redhat 6.2 >,and now i want to install IMP ,and it need courier-imap to be setup on the server . > > some error occure when i make the courier-imap .the error message are > > " > > Making install in authlib > > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/rom/qmail/courier-imap-1.2.1/authlib' > > gcc -I/home/vpopmail/include -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -L/home/vpopmail/lib -o >authvchkpw modauthvchkpw.o libauthmod.a libauth.a ../md5/libmd5.a -lvpopmail -lm >-lcrypt > > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_open': > > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:59: undefined reference to `mysql_init' > > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:61: undefined reference to >`mysql_real_connect' > > Did you do a > > $ make clean > > before retrying to compile? > > -- > Joost
Re: problem when install qmail+vpopmail+mysql+courier-imap on redhat 6.2??
> rom wrote: > > i want to setup webmail system on my server . now > the smtp and pop3 service working well with qmail+vpopmail+mysql on > redhat 6.2 ,and now i want to install IMP ,and it need courier-imap to > be setup on the server . > some error occure when i make the courier-imap .the error message are > " > Making install in authlib > make[1]: Entering directory > `/home/rom/qmail/courier-imap-1.2.1/authlib' > gcc -I/home/vpopmail/include -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. > -L/home/vpopmail/lib -o authvchkpw modauthvchkpw.o libauthmod.a > libauth.a ../md5/libmd5.a -lvpopmail -lm -lcrypt > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_open': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:59: undefined reference to > `mysql_init' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:61: undefined reference to > `mysql_real_connect' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:63: undefined reference to > `mysql_real_connect' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:70: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:75: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:76: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:77: undefined reference to > `mysql_select_db' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_adddomain_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:121: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:125: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:126: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_adduser_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:193: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:196: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:206: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:207: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_getpw_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:248: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:253: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:268: undefined reference to > `mysql_fetch_row' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:277: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:280: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_deldomain_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:304: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:307: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:308: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_deluser_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:337: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:341: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:342: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_setquota_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:368: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_vpasswd_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:408: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_getall_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:449: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:454: undefined reference to > `mysql_use_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:466: undefined reference to > `mysql_fetch_row' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:476: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function > `vauth_setpw_size': > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:544: undefined reference to > `mysql_query' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:549: undefined reference to > `mysql_store_result' > /home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:550: undefined reference to > `mysql_free_result' > /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth
problem when install qmail+vpopmail+mysql+courier-imap on redhat 6.2??
i want to setup webmail system on my server . now the smtp and pop3 service working well with qmail+vpopmail+mysql on redhat 6.2 ,and now i want to install IMP ,and it need courier-imap to be setup on the server . some error occure when i make the courier-imap .the error message are " Making install in authlibmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/rom/qmail/courier-imap-1.2.1/authlib'gcc -I/home/vpopmail/include -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -L/home/vpopmail/lib -o authvchkpw modauthvchkpw.o libauthmod.a libauth.a ../md5/libmd5.a -lvpopmail -lm -lcrypt /home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_open':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:59: undefined reference to `mysql_init'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:61: undefined reference to `mysql_real_connect'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:63: undefined reference to `mysql_real_connect'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:70: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:75: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:76: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:77: undefined reference to `mysql_select_db'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_adddomain_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:121: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:125: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:126: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_adduser_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:193: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:196: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:206: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:207: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_getpw_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:248: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:253: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:268: undefined reference to `mysql_fetch_row'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:277: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:280: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_deldomain_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:304: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:307: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:308: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_deluser_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:337: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:341: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:342: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_setquota_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:368: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_vpasswd_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:408: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_getall_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:449: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:454: undefined reference to `mysql_use_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:466: undefined reference to `mysql_fetch_row'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:476: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vauth_setpw_size':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:544: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:549: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:550: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/libvpopmail.a(vauth.o): In function `vopen_smtp_relay':/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:575: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:581: undefined reference to `mysql_query'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:585: undefined reference to `mysql_store_result'/home/rom/qmail/vpopmail-4.9.4/vauth.c:586: undefined reference to `mysql_free_result'/home/vpopmail/lib/lib
Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
Are you able to make it create folders on the same level as INBOX or only as subfolders of INBOX? /Martin Tim Hunter wrote: > > I am using courier-imap with Outlook, Outlook Express, Netscape Messenger, > and Eudora, along with sqwebmail. > It is a wonderful product. > > I don't have any problems, even with somewhere around 30 folders and > subfolders. > I have a good feeling you have misconfigured something. > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Jespersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 2:22 PM > To: Georg Lutz > Cc: Qmail mailing list > Subject: Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == > complete fuckup... any ideas? > > Hi Georg, > > Definition > > root-level folders = folders on the same level as the INBOX in the > filesystem directory structure. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Sent/ > > etc... > > I have made a Maildir folder under ~mylogin as ~mylogin/Maildir/ using > maildirmake and there is no > problem delivering to it or reading from it. > > The problem is this: Courier-imapd refuse to create root-level folders and > insists that all folders > should be created as subfolder of the INBOX folder. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/Sent/ > > Furthermore, since courier-imapd uses '.' as separator instead of the > standard '/' that other > Maildir-like message structures like Mh use all folders are created with a . > infront. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Sent/ > > The problem basically seems to be that the guy who wrote courier-imapd is so > hooked on the rfc's > that he made a imap server that breakes all clients :( (or at least netscape > messanger and microsoft > outlook, which are used by the larger part of internet users as MUA) > > At first i thought that this was due to the silly choice of personal > Namespace that he made, ie. > INBOX which is a more or less reserved word in most MUA's. > > But although i patched the source to use PRIVA instead it still fucked up. > > So i guess it might be the '.' seperator that is the problem, though i am in > know way knowledgable > enough about the imap specs to base this on anything else than gut-feeling > as a professional > programmer of many years. > > But before i take on the task of making a complete working patch for courier > imapd which supports > standard MUA's i would like to be sure that no-one has done this before me, > since i am hard pressed > on time as it is, and actually need a good working imap server that supports > Maildir now ;) > > I thought about contacting the guy who wrote it, but i must admit that after > reading the FAQ and > BUGS section on the download site i doubt very much that he in anyway cares > about my problems since > he seems to think that all MUA's that doesn't speak imap his way should be > fixed *shrug*. > That is an attitude that is hard to find usefull for the rest of us IMHO. > > Regards > > Martin Jespersen > > Georg Lutz wrote: > > > > Hi Martin, > > > > what do you mean by "root-level-folders" ? > > With a MUA you can only create folders in your INBOX. If you want to > > create public-shared-folders you have to use maildirmake (which is part > > of courier-imap), perhaps with a combination of > > /usr/lib/courierimap/etc/maildirshared. > > How folders in your private namespace are displayed, depends on the MUA > > you are using. In Netscape this are all subfolders of "INBOX". > > > > But for further information you should look at man maildirmake or at the > > courier-mailing-list. > > I am quite happy with courier-imap and I would not recommend any other > > imapd with maildir-patches. > > > > Bye > > Georg > > > > Martin Jespersen schrieb: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to > change this so spare me any > > > rants about getting another MUA. > > > > > > I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not > quite satisfied with (the > > > maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying). > > > > > > So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just > fine, but... > > > > > > It refused to
RE: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
I am using courier-imap with Outlook, Outlook Express, Netscape Messenger, and Eudora, along with sqwebmail. It is a wonderful product. I don't have any problems, even with somewhere around 30 folders and subfolders. I have a good feeling you have misconfigured something. -Original Message- From: Martin Jespersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 2:22 PM To: Georg Lutz Cc: Qmail mailing list Subject: Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas? Hi Georg, Definition root-level folders = folders on the same level as the INBOX in the filesystem directory structure. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Sent/ etc... I have made a Maildir folder under ~mylogin as ~mylogin/Maildir/ using maildirmake and there is no problem delivering to it or reading from it. The problem is this: Courier-imapd refuse to create root-level folders and insists that all folders should be created as subfolder of the INBOX folder. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/Sent/ Furthermore, since courier-imapd uses '.' as separator instead of the standard '/' that other Maildir-like message structures like Mh use all folders are created with a . infront. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Sent/ The problem basically seems to be that the guy who wrote courier-imapd is so hooked on the rfc's that he made a imap server that breakes all clients :( (or at least netscape messanger and microsoft outlook, which are used by the larger part of internet users as MUA) At first i thought that this was due to the silly choice of personal Namespace that he made, ie. INBOX which is a more or less reserved word in most MUA's. But although i patched the source to use PRIVA instead it still fucked up. So i guess it might be the '.' seperator that is the problem, though i am in know way knowledgable enough about the imap specs to base this on anything else than gut-feeling as a professional programmer of many years. But before i take on the task of making a complete working patch for courier imapd which supports standard MUA's i would like to be sure that no-one has done this before me, since i am hard pressed on time as it is, and actually need a good working imap server that supports Maildir now ;) I thought about contacting the guy who wrote it, but i must admit that after reading the FAQ and BUGS section on the download site i doubt very much that he in anyway cares about my problems since he seems to think that all MUA's that doesn't speak imap his way should be fixed *shrug*. That is an attitude that is hard to find usefull for the rest of us IMHO. Regards Martin Jespersen Georg Lutz wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > what do you mean by "root-level-folders" ? > With a MUA you can only create folders in your INBOX. If you want to > create public-shared-folders you have to use maildirmake (which is part > of courier-imap), perhaps with a combination of > /usr/lib/courierimap/etc/maildirshared. > How folders in your private namespace are displayed, depends on the MUA > you are using. In Netscape this are all subfolders of "INBOX". > > But for further information you should look at man maildirmake or at the > courier-mailing-list. > I am quite happy with courier-imap and I would not recommend any other > imapd with maildir-patches. > > Bye > Georg > > Martin Jespersen schrieb: > > > > Hi all, > > > > My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so spare me any > > rants about getting another MUA. > > > > I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite satisfied with (the > > maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying). > > > > So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine, but... > > > > It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under the INBOX. > > > > i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the --enable-workaround.. > > > > i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace instead of INBOX > > (yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine) > > > > but it is a no-go... > > > > maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of courier-imapd and changed the > > subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except being super-slow > > and outdated in alot of ways > > > > is there anyone who is succesfully runni
Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
Hi Martin, Courier-imap never creates any folder outside the maildir. Messenger never shows any subfolders in your private namespace on the same level as the INBOX-folder. IMAP-Namespace has nothing to to how IMAP-Server stores their messages. Even if you patch courier-imap, Messenger shows subfolders of private namespace as subfolders of INBOX. courier-imap uses some extensions to maildir-format. The "." when creating a folder is used to be compatible with standard-maildir-format. Otherwise an appplication would not be able to differentiate between maildir-folder "cur" and user folder "cur". I realy don't know whats your the problem with courier-imap. Bye Georg Martin Jespersen schrieb: > > Hi Georg, > > Definition > > root-level folders = folders on the same level as the INBOX in the filesystem >directory structure. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Sent/ > > etc... > > I have made a Maildir folder under ~mylogin as ~mylogin/Maildir/ using maildirmake >and there is no > problem delivering to it or reading from it. > > The problem is this: Courier-imapd refuse to create root-level folders and insists >that all folders > should be created as subfolder of the INBOX folder. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/Sent/ > > Furthermore, since courier-imapd uses '.' as separator instead of the standard '/' >that other > Maildir-like message structures like Mh use all folders are created with a . infront. > > Example: > > INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ > Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Trash/ > Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Sent/ > > The problem basically seems to be that the guy who wrote courier-imapd is so hooked >on the rfc's > that he made a imap server that breakes all clients :( (or at least netscape >messanger and microsoft > outlook, which are used by the larger part of internet users as MUA) > > At first i thought that this was due to the silly choice of personal Namespace that >he made, ie. > INBOX which is a more or less reserved word in most MUA's. > > But although i patched the source to use PRIVA instead it still fucked up. > > So i guess it might be the '.' seperator that is the problem, though i am in know >way knowledgable > enough about the imap specs to base this on anything else than gut-feeling as a >professional > programmer of many years. > > But before i take on the task of making a complete working patch for courier imapd >which supports > standard MUA's i would like to be sure that no-one has done this before me, since i >am hard pressed > on time as it is, and actually need a good working imap server that supports Maildir >now ;) > > I thought about contacting the guy who wrote it, but i must admit that after reading >the FAQ and > BUGS section on the download site i doubt very much that he in anyway cares about my >problems since > he seems to think that all MUA's that doesn't speak imap his way should be fixed >*shrug*. > That is an attitude that is hard to find usefull for the rest of us IMHO. > > Regards > > Martin Jespersen > -- Georg Lutz | http://www.erc.de ERC - Euro Regio Consult AG | Tel: +49 7854 9696-0 Im Buehl 10 | Fax: +49 7854 9696-20 D-77694 Kehl
Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
Hi Georg, Definition root-level folders = folders on the same level as the INBOX in the filesystem directory structure. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Sent/ etc... I have made a Maildir folder under ~mylogin as ~mylogin/Maildir/ using maildirmake and there is no problem delivering to it or reading from it. The problem is this: Courier-imapd refuse to create root-level folders and insists that all folders should be created as subfolder of the INBOX folder. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/Sent/ Furthermore, since courier-imapd uses '.' as separator instead of the standard '/' that other Maildir-like message structures like Mh use all folders are created with a . infront. Example: INBOX == ~mylogin/Maildir/ Trash == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Trash/ Sent == ~mylogin/Maildir/.Sent/ The problem basically seems to be that the guy who wrote courier-imapd is so hooked on the rfc's that he made a imap server that breakes all clients :( (or at least netscape messanger and microsoft outlook, which are used by the larger part of internet users as MUA) At first i thought that this was due to the silly choice of personal Namespace that he made, ie. INBOX which is a more or less reserved word in most MUA's. But although i patched the source to use PRIVA instead it still fucked up. So i guess it might be the '.' seperator that is the problem, though i am in know way knowledgable enough about the imap specs to base this on anything else than gut-feeling as a professional programmer of many years. But before i take on the task of making a complete working patch for courier imapd which supports standard MUA's i would like to be sure that no-one has done this before me, since i am hard pressed on time as it is, and actually need a good working imap server that supports Maildir now ;) I thought about contacting the guy who wrote it, but i must admit that after reading the FAQ and BUGS section on the download site i doubt very much that he in anyway cares about my problems since he seems to think that all MUA's that doesn't speak imap his way should be fixed *shrug*. That is an attitude that is hard to find usefull for the rest of us IMHO. Regards Martin Jespersen Georg Lutz wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > what do you mean by "root-level-folders" ? > With a MUA you can only create folders in your INBOX. If you want to > create public-shared-folders you have to use maildirmake (which is part > of courier-imap), perhaps with a combination of > /usr/lib/courierimap/etc/maildirshared. > How folders in your private namespace are displayed, depends on the MUA > you are using. In Netscape this are all subfolders of "INBOX". > > But for further information you should look at man maildirmake or at the > courier-mailing-list. > I am quite happy with courier-imap and I would not recommend any other > imapd with maildir-patches. > > Bye > Georg > > Martin Jespersen schrieb: > > > > Hi all, > > > > My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so >spare me any > > rants about getting another MUA. > > > > I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite >satisfied with (the > > maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying). > > > > So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine, >but... > > > > It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under >the INBOX. > > > > i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the >--enable-workaround.. > > > > i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace >instead of INBOX > > (yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine) > > > > but it is a no-go... > > > > maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of >courier-imapd and changed the > > subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except >being super-slow > > and outdated in alot of ways > > > > is there anyone who is succesfully running courier with support for netscape out >there? > > > > going through the sourcecode it seems that courier actually insists that >root-level folders should > > reside under ./Maildir/ eg. the trashfolder is file-system wise created as >./Maildir/Trash/ > > > > can anyone answer me this: why? isn't this just begging for MUA problems? > > > > *ARGH the pain!* > > > > if anyone knows of ANY i
Re: OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
Hi Martin, what do you mean by "root-level-folders" ? With a MUA you can only create folders in your INBOX. If you want to create public-shared-folders you have to use maildirmake (which is part of courier-imap), perhaps with a combination of /usr/lib/courierimap/etc/maildirshared. How folders in your private namespace are displayed, depends on the MUA you are using. In Netscape this are all subfolders of "INBOX". But for further information you should look at man maildirmake or at the courier-mailing-list. I am quite happy with courier-imap and I would not recommend any other imapd with maildir-patches. Bye Georg Martin Jespersen schrieb: > > Hi all, > > My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so >spare me any > rants about getting another MUA. > > I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite satisfied >with (the > maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying). > > So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine, but... > > It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under >the INBOX. > > i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the >--enable-workaround.. > > i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace >instead of INBOX > (yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine) > > but it is a no-go... > > maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of courier-imapd >and changed the > subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except >being super-slow > and outdated in alot of ways > > is there anyone who is succesfully running courier with support for netscape out >there? > > going through the sourcecode it seems that courier actually insists that root-level >folders should > reside under ./Maildir/ eg. the trashfolder is file-system wise created as >./Maildir/Trash/ > > can anyone answer me this: why? isn't this just begging for MUA problems? > > *ARGH the pain!* > > if anyone knows of ANY imap server that supports Maildir format and Netscape >messanger at the same > time PLEASE tell me, because i am running out of ideas besides coding my own imap >server and i > really don't feel like doing that unless i absolutely have to (i hate coding C -go >figure :) > > if only perl was faster then i would make one today, but alas perl is no good for >production-level > daemons. > > Regards > > Martin Jespersen -- Georg Lutz | http://www.erc.de ERC - Euro Regio Consult AG | Tel: +49 7854 9696-0 Im Buehl 10 | Fax: +49 7854 9696-20 D-77694 Kehl
OT: courier-imapd & netscape messanger for windows == complete fuckup... any ideas?
Hi all, My MUA is netscape messanger 4.73 for windows and i am not about to change this so spare me any rants about getting another MUA. I am currently using wu-imapd v4.7 with maildir patch, but i am not quite satisfied with (the maildir driver has a few missing features that are really anoying). So i am trying to get courier imapd 1.1 up and running, and it runs just fine, but... It refused to create root-level subfolders and i can only create subfolders under the INBOX. i have tried to reconfigure/reinstall 10 times now with and without the --enable-workaround.. i have even tried to modify the source code to use PRIVA as the personal namespace instead of INBOX (yeah i changed it everywhere and make check worked fine) but it is a no-go... maybe it would work if i completely rewrote the namespace structure of courier-imapd and changed the subfolder delimiter from "." to "/" like mh use since mh seems to work fine except being super-slow and outdated in alot of ways is there anyone who is succesfully running courier with support for netscape out there? going through the sourcecode it seems that courier actually insists that root-level folders should reside under ./Maildir/ eg. the trashfolder is file-system wise created as ./Maildir/Trash/ can anyone answer me this: why? isn't this just begging for MUA problems? *ARGH the pain!* if anyone knows of ANY imap server that supports Maildir format and Netscape messanger at the same time PLEASE tell me, because i am running out of ideas besides coding my own imap server and i really don't feel like doing that unless i absolutely have to (i hate coding C -go figure :) if only perl was faster then i would make one today, but alas perl is no good for production-level daemons. Regards Martin Jespersen
please help me with Courier-imap!
Hello all, I am puzzled by what is happening when retrieving mail through courier-imap. I connect to my Maildir remotely and I know that there is no mail in my Maildir, but yet I am getting 24 duplicate messages back. Where are these messages coming from? I tried to connect to another user's Maildir and I got back 8 duplicate messages (not the same as my messages). I don't have any messages in /var/spool/mail/ and I am certain that when I send mail to the Maildirs, that they are going into there proper mail directories. Any ideas anyone? Thank you all!
Re: courier-imap help
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 03:30:51PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote: > I need some help with a new problem with courier-imap Is there a > developers list for that I can join? There is a courier-users list monitored by the sole developer. It is linked to from the courier home page. Ben -- Ben Beuchler [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAILER-DAEMON (612) 321-9290 x101 Bitstream Underground www.bitstream.net
courier-imap help
I need some help with a new problem with courier-imap Is there a developers list for that I can join? Problem is There is a rpm build problem in the new Redhat 7.0 Beta that didn't exist in RedHat 6.2 I am on the redhat rpm-devel-list, and got around the problem for builds as root, but the courier-imap requires it's rpm to be built as a non-root user. I need to discuss this further with those who know. :-) thanks, Barry Smoke
Re: Courier-IMAP
This is actually a feature of your client more than the server. in IMAP setup set the root folder to be INBOX. - Original Message - From: Julian L. Cardarelli To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: Courier-IMAP Hello All, I was just wondering if there was a way to setup Courier IMAP so that it lets you setup the default "Sent Items" & "Drafts" Folders under the root of the server not under inbox, like Microsoft Outlook & Outlook Express like to have it so I get the pretty icons? :) Regards, Julian
Re: Courier-IMAP
There is a courier-imap mailing list ... Subscribe to the courier-users mailing list from http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/courier-users, or send a message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and put "subscribe" in the subject line. This mailing list does not accept mail from non-subscribers. You must subscribe to the list before sending any messages. wolfgang __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Courier-IMAP
Hello All, I was just wondering if there was a way to setup Courier IMAP so that it lets you setup the default "Sent Items" & "Drafts" Folders under the root of the server not under inbox, like Microsoft Outlook & Outlook Express like to have it so I get the pretty icons? :) Regards, Julian
Re: Courier IMAP / Autoresponders / SQWebMail
Kathleen Farber wrote: > > Anything I should be aware of for installing Courier IMAP with > vpop and vchkpw > > We would like to install sqwebmail but worried about screwing things up > since it took a month to get it running the right way with no error messages > ::whew:: > > Red Hat Linux 6.2 > Current Qmail, QmailAdmin, EzMLM, vpop, vchkpw > > Also, if anyone knows why when using autoresponders why the mail bounces but > yet the autoresponder goes out would be much appreciated! > > Kathleen Here is my configure line for sqwebmail to work with vpopmail: ./configure --enable-webpass=vpopmail --without-authuserdb --without-authpam \ --without-authpwd --without-authshadow --without-authldap --with-cachedir \ --with-authvchkpw --enable-imageurl=/images/sqwebmail/ \ --enable-imagedir= Here is my configure line for courier imap ./configure --without-authuserdb --without-authpam \ --without-authpwd --without-authshadow --without-authldap \ --with-authvchkpw --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs One gotcha with the courier-imap. If you are using mysql, sybase or oracle, you need to edit the courier-imap code. In the authlib directory, find the vauth_getpw function call and add a vclose(); right after it. The reason why is, a courier-imap client causes a courier-imap process to run on the server. Unlike pop, the courier-imap server process stays active for the entire session. So if you have 200 people using imap, you'll have 200 courier-imap server processes running on your machine. Now the reason for the vclose() is that vpopmail API doesn't explicitly close the connection to the database. Once the vauth_getpw() function is run, courier-imap has all the information it ever needs from the database. At that point we need to call vclose() to close the database connection. If not, those 200 imap clients will cause 200 database connections to stay open. The vclose() call isn't needed if you are using the file based authentication module in vpopmail. Since the files are closed during each vpopmail api function call. Ken
Courier IMAP / Autoresponders / SQWebMail
Anything I should be aware of for installing Courier IMAP with vpop and vchkpw We would like to install sqwebmail but worried about screwing things up since it took a month to get it running the right way with no error messages ::whew:: Red Hat Linux 6.2 Current Qmail, QmailAdmin, EzMLM, vpop, vchkpw Also, if anyone knows why when using autoresponders why the mail bounces but yet the autoresponder goes out would be much appreciated! Kathleen
Re: Where is sqwebmail in courier-imap?
Kristina writes: > The sqwebmail page says that courier-imap includes > sqwebmail so there is no need to download sqwebmail > if you have courier-imap. > I cannot seem to find sqwebmail in my courier-imap-0.31 > installation! > Anyone know where it could be? Though I never worked with Courier I'm writing this with the standalone sqwebmail which can be found at http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail. AFAIK it is identical to the version that ships with Courier-IMAP. HTH Gabriel
Re: Where is sqwebmail in courier-imap?
I think the courier mail server has it, not courier-imap (which is a component of courier just use the www.inter7.com site... -Colin Kristina writes: > > The sqwebmail page says that courier-imap includes > sqwebmail so there is no need to download sqwebmail > if you have courier-imap. > > I cannot seem to find sqwebmail in my courier-imap-0.31 > installation! > > Anyone know where it could be? > > I have done a find / -name sqwebmail -print. > > > Thanks, > Kristina > <- This is a Sig ->
Where is sqwebmail in courier-imap?
The sqwebmail page says that courier-imap includes sqwebmail so there is no need to download sqwebmail if you have courier-imap. I cannot seem to find sqwebmail in my courier-imap-0.31 installation! Anyone know where it could be? I have done a find / -name sqwebmail -print. Thanks, Kristina
Running Courier-IMAP 0.33
hi list, I'm trying to get courier-imap to run on 2 different servers to no avail. Whenever I try to run ` imapd.rc start ` I get a "bind: adress already in use" error ... I've been readin the man pages and found nothing, and I've also been looking at the /etc/services file, hoping I had something wrong there, but doesn't look broken. does anyone have courier-imap running allright with qmail/vmailmgr? can you tell me what could I be missing? thanks martin
courier-imap: make check errors
When I run make check for courier-imap on Solaris7 sparc using gcc-2.95. I get the following output. Make check doesn't finish: it just hangs with the last two lines "broken pipe". However, if I go ahead and install it anyway, courier-imap appears to work fine. Are the following errors something to worry about? Any help would be great, Kristina - * Sanity check in progress * INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] make[1]: *** [check] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/SRC/IMAP/courier-imap-0.31/imap' make: *** [check-recursive] Error 1 ldaptest% INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] Broken Pipe INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] Broken Pipe Broken Pipe INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] Broken Pipe Broken Pipe INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] Broken Pipe Broken Pipe INFO: LOGIN, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] INFO: LOGOUT, user=user, ip=[127.0.0.1] Broken Pipe Broken Pipe --
Re: [newcomer] Problems installing Qmail+VMailMgr+Courier-Imap
On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 03:04:54PM -0300, Martin A. Langhoff wrote: [snip] > Now, the symptoms I could gather: > - syslogd taking 50% processor time syslog sucks. daemontools (which you installed) come with multilog which does a far better job. > - command line utilities like mail / sendmail are there and seem > to work, but `mail root` or `sendmail root` and then typing `mail` to > see my own msg did not work. Maybe I'm expecting something to work that > won't ever work when virtualizing email accounts? qmail does not and will not ever deliver to root. Check ~alias for where this mail went, or check the logfiles. Greetz, Peter. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Peter van Dijk [student:developer:madly in love]
[newcomer] Problems installing Qmail+VMailMgr+Courier-Imap
hello, I've come across HOWO recently added to the linux HOWTO's, written by Dan Kuykendall, titled "Qmail VMailMgr and Courier-ImapHOWTO". This HOWTO guided me though the prep/compile/install for - ucspi-tcp - daemontools - supervise-scripts - qmail - vmailmgr - courier-imap and a few config changes, like add a user and add a virtualhosts file to add users to a test domain virtualhost. Ah, of course, I did remove sendmail and friends before starting. And then restarted. [ a little background on the machine: it's an old RH5.1 upgraded to RH.6.1, running named (from CD rpms), Samba (built from src) and MySQL (from SRPMs) and Apache+mod_perl (built from src). I do have lots of Perl modules, but don't think it matters. ] Well, now nothing's running as it should. It's an internal test server, so I don't really mind that syslog is taking 50% of cpu time. :) But I guess that signals that something's running wrong, don't you? Now, the symptoms I could gather: - syslogd taking 50% processor time - command line utilities like mail / sendmail are there and seem to work, but `mail root` or `sendmail root` and then typing `mail` to see my own msg did not work. Maybe I'm expecting something to work that won't ever work when virtualizing email accounts? - tried to connect to the imap server from the very same box, with NN4.x under GNOME and got an eternal wait. - tried to connect to the pop server from the very same box, with NN4.x under GNOME and got an eternal wait. As you can read, I'm quite new to this software, and I'm looking for clues to follow. Could someone point me in the right direction? The aim of all this is to get qmail to work, and then virtual domain accounts to work also over imap. Then. with the aid of an opensource imap webmail interface, I'll be out with Pinky and The Brain to conquer the world :) Thanks! martin -- -- To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion. -- -- - Martin Langhoff @ S C I M Multimedia Technology - - http://www.scim.net | God is real until - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | declared integer -
potentially touchy topic of courier imap v imap clients (fwd)
I posted the message below to the imap list at U Washington, to see if I could get any comments. I didn't get much of a response, so I thought I would try here as well. Thank you for any comments you might have. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Dent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: potentially touchy topic of courier imap v imap clients I realize this is probably a topic which has been beaten to death, but my review of the list archives did not return a great deal, so I thought I would poke around and see what kind of responses I was able to get. Feel free to respond to me directly or to the list, I can summarize if necessary. My work environment is a smallish ISP with approximately 10,000 email accounts. Right now the vast majority of those users have their mail housed on pop servers running qmail and qmail-pop3d. We went with qmail because of several reasons: we had significant success with it on our relays we could use Maildir on the POP machine, which meant that management of mail messages, quota, user management, logging, and a whole slew of stuff was going to be very easy to customize, tweak, make just so and generally be good. it's all fast and small Soon we will be moving from our pop only or shell based mail only mail environment to something we are calling mailstore, which will be a place where users keep their mail that has multiple access modes (initially just POP, IMAP and IMAP with something like stunnel, but growing to Webmail and probably IMAP access from the shell machine). We would like to avoid having to migrate people's mail collections to a new format, to maintain the advantages that Maildir gives us and to continue using the considerable collection of custom code we have put together to manage the machines. Which says to me that we should use an IMAP server which supports Maildir. I'm not sure of all the options (input is most welcome) but those I've thought about so far have issues: - UW with Maildir support, I've been told, still suffers from the memory footprint problems that the c-client programs suffer - Courier-IMAP, I've beent old (again), suffers from signicant "doesn't play well with clients" issues and suffers from an author that doesn't want to play with others either. - Cyrus present a lot of advantages and we can make it interoperate with whatever mail server we choose, but we will need to migrate from the existing Maildir structure and tools which manage users will need to be changed. I want to use Courier-IMAP because I agree with the spirit of it's design--small, modular, extensible through pipelines--but because this is an ISP environment we have next to no control over client use and must, for the sake of customer satisfaction and technical support costs, minimize the trouble that an IMAP server will cause. Are the client interaction problems in Courier-IMAP that significant? If so, does anyone care to guess how hard it would be for a motivated person to code around them? Sam, if you are listening, what are your comments or suggestions? My feeling on this whole issue are nicely captured by Postel in RFC 760 section 3.2: The implementation of a protocol must be robust. Each implementation must expect to interoperate with others created by different individuals. While the goal of this specification is to be explicit about the protocol there is the possibility of differing interpretations. In general, an implementation should be conservative in its sending behavior, and liberal in its receiving behavior. That is, it should be careful to send well-formed datagrams, but should accept any datagram that it can interpret (e.g., not object to technical errors where the meaning is still clear). Which, unfortunately, people get very uptight about. (I know I've been there).
Re: courier IMAP and Outlook problem
Hi Derek, There is a readme for setting up imap clients here: http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.imap.html Follow the instructions for the Outlook section. I have gotten it to work. Hope this helps, Cono - Original Message - From: Derek Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: qmail Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 9:16 AM Subject: courier IMAP and Outlook problem > Hi, > > I'm having difficulty getting MS Outlook 5 to create IMAP subfolders in > Courier-IMAP. > > Does anyone have any experience of this, do they have it working? > > Can anyone offer any work around? > > > Cheers, > > Del. > >
courier IMAP and Outlook problem
Hi, I'm having difficulty getting MS Outlook 5 to create IMAP subfolders in Courier-IMAP. Does anyone have any experience of this, do they have it working? Can anyone offer any work around? Cheers, Del.
Re: db files for vpopmail and courier imap
> Cono D'Elia wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there a limitation for the amount of users courier imap and > vpopmail can support using the db type files? Is it better to go with > an sql database instead? > > > Thanks, > > Cono. There is no limitation of cdb password files. However, modifications to the file (add/delete/mod) start taking long amounts of time >30 seconds when you have more than 5,000 users. ken jones inter7
db files for vpopmail and courier imap
Hello, Is there a limitation for the amount of users courier imap and vpopmail can support using the db type files? Is it better to go with an sql database instead? Thanks, Cono.
Re: Login problems with courier-imap
Thankyou. I have changed the IP Address in imapd.config but I still get the same "connection closed" error when I login to imap. Besides IP Address, what else needs to be changed in imapd.config to get it up and running? Any hints would be great, Kristina At 09:09 00/04/26 +0100, you wrote: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:31:09AM +0900, Kristina wrote: > > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I > > get, > > "Connection closed by foreign host.". In the syslog I only get, > > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]" > > > > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection clos ed" > > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected > > "Login incorrect" errorwhich means imap is authenticating. > > > > Any hints would be great. > > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following > > compilation. > > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files??? > > > Yes it does, you need to edit one or two entries in imapd.config, in > particular you need to set ADDRESS to your real IP address. > > -- > Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/ >
Re: Login problems with courier-imap
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 09:31:09AM +0900, Kristina wrote: > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I > get, > "Connection closed by foreign host.". In the syslog I only get, > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]" > > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed" > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected > "Login incorrect" errorwhich means imap is authenticating. > > Any hints would be great. > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following > compilation. > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files??? > Yes it does, you need to edit one or two entries in imapd.config, in particular you need to set ADDRESS to your real IP address. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Login problems with courier-imap
No I am not using the auth_imap authentication module yet because I can't even get courier-imap to work using default authentication. Although, my ultimate goal is to use the auth_imap module I can't get courier-imap working with /etc/passwd. Any help appreciated as to why I am getting "connection closed" as soon enter the correct username an password! Has anyone got courier-imap running correctly on Solaris 7? Do I need to configure anything after compilation? Thanks, Kristina At 03:03 00/04/26 +0200, you wrote: > Kristina wrote: > > > > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I > > get, > > "Connection closed by foreign host.". In the syslog I only get, > > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]" > > > > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection clos ed" > > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected > > "Login incorrect" errorwhich means imap is authenticating. > > > > Any hints would be great. > > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following > > compilation. > > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files??? > > Are you using the auth_imap authentication module from qmail-ldap? > > -- > Andre >
Re: Login problems with courier-imap
Kristina wrote: > > I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I > get, > "Connection closed by foreign host.". In the syslog I only get, > " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]" > > When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed" > error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected > "Login incorrect" errorwhich means imap is authenticating. > > Any hints would be great. > Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following > compilation. > Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files??? Are you using the auth_imap authentication module from qmail-ldap? -- Andre
Login problems with courier-imap
I have courier-imap compiled correctly on Solaris7 but when I try to login I get, "Connection closed by foreign host.". In the syslog I only get, " imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]" When I give the correct username and password I get the "connection closed" error. When I enter a wrong username andpassword I do get the expected "Login incorrect" errorwhich means imap is authenticating. Any hints would be great. Please note that I have not made any configuration changes to imap following compilation. Perhaps imap requires some configuration in some files??? Thanks Kristina *Actual output: (Note: "ldaptest" is hostname) root@ldaptest(29)%telnet ldaptest imap Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2000 Double Precision, Inc. See COP YING for distribution information. 1 login kristina password Connection closed by foreign host. Actual output in syslog: Apr 25 15:30:57 ldaptest imaplogin: Connection, ip=[127.0.0.1]
Re: courier-imap & vchkpw
Derek Smith wrote: > > I can't seem to get courier-imap to compile using vchkpw as the > authentication method. I had a similar problem a couple of days ago. It seems that my compiler (gcc 2.95.2) doesn't like the way courier-imap is including vchkpw headers. I'm not even sure if vpopmail_config's use of '#include "~vpopmail/include/config.h"' is valid C at all. The attached patch makes vpopmail_config.h a generated file using the vpopmail homedir as detected in configure. After you apply the patch, you'll need to run automake in the topsrcdir & autoconf in authlib. - cls --- courier-imap-0.30/authlib/vpopmail_config.h.in.cls Mon Mar 20 11:45:39 2000 +++ courier-imap-0.30/authlib/vpopmail_config.h.in Mon Mar 20 11:45:50 2000 @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +#include "@vpopmail_home@/include/config.h" --- courier-imap-0.30/authlib/configure.in.cls Mon Feb 28 20:48:49 2000 +++ courier-imap-0.30/authlib/configure.in Mon Mar 20 11:46:23 2000 @@ -564,4 +564,4 @@ AC_SUBST(AUTHMODULES) AC_SUBST(LIBAUTH) -AC_OUTPUT(Makefile html2man.pl authlib.html modulelist configlist) +AC_OUTPUT(Makefile html2man.pl authlib.html modulelist configlist vpopmail_config.h)
courier-imap & vchkpw
Hi, I can't seem to get courier-imap to compile using vchkpw as the authentication method. What I am doing is (as it doesn't seem to detect vchkpw is installed) specifying --with-authvchkpw, but it doesn't even compile the vchkpw module. Can someone tell me how to configure vchkpw as the authentication module for courier-imap either via options passed to configure, or by forcing courier-imap to see that vchkpw is installed. Cheers, Del.
Re: courier 0.27 and shared folders config.
That Yikes! error message looks like something inside vpopmail. That's probably the best place to track it down. Ken Jones markus stalder - mails + media wrote: > > hey all, > > this mail concerns the behaviour of the qmail imap daemon together > with vpopmail 3.4.11 under qmail 1.03 on a suse linux system. > > i've come around some problem with the shared folders system under > courier. i can have shared maildirs and they're doing their job very > well - the problem is that as soon as i've subscribed to a shared > folder qmail isn't able to deliver mail locally to my maildir anymore. > the error message (from the maillog) is as follows: > > >Unable_to_link_tmp_to_new_(#4.3.0)/Yikes!_Could_create_but_can't_delete_temporary_file!! > ENOENT:_path_doesn't_exist/ > > i think i've already located the (supposed) error - as soon as i > remove the symlink 'shared' (which points to vpopmail/domains/shared_folders/.test) >from > 'vpopmail/domains/abc.de/abc/Maildir/shared-folders/test/test') everything > works perfect again, no errors, mail gets sent, no complaints from qmail. > > of course i've already tried all chmod's in every possible directory, > i gave the files in all responsible shared-folder-directories to > the vpopmail user, to the qmail users, but nothing brought a change yet, > the error message still remains and mail doesn't get sent to the user's > inbox. > > does qmail have a problem with symlinks? the directory does exist and also > i don't see why qmail bothers to read this link, it shouldn't pay > attention to it at all should it? > > i also tried to make the shared folder read-only as well as read+write, > and the error occurs in both modes. it really seems to be all about the > 'shared'-link and i really don't get what's so wrong with it or why > qmail actually bothers to read (or tries to do something odd with) it. > > also, the first part of the error message 'Unable_to_link_tmp etc.' > wasn't there on some earlier tries, it was just 'Can't_create_tempfile' > and then the remaining line. > > that's it, i really hope you've already come across that error and know > a way to fix it or change/modify whatever is possible to make it work. > > thanks alot for your time, i still think qmail together with vpopmail > and courier rules :) > > regards, > > markus stalder > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
courier 0.27 and shared folders config.
hey all, this mail concerns the behaviour of the qmail imap daemon together with vpopmail 3.4.11 under qmail 1.03 on a suse linux system. i've come around some problem with the shared folders system under courier. i can have shared maildirs and they're doing their job very well - the problem is that as soon as i've subscribed to a shared folder qmail isn't able to deliver mail locally to my maildir anymore. the error message (from the maillog) is as follows: Unable_to_link_tmp_to_new_(#4.3.0)/Yikes!_Could_create_but_can't_delete_temporary_file!! ENOENT:_path_doesn't_exist/ i think i've already located the (supposed) error - as soon as i remove the symlink 'shared' (which points to vpopmail/domains/shared_folders/.test) from 'vpopmail/domains/abc.de/abc/Maildir/shared-folders/test/test') everything works perfect again, no errors, mail gets sent, no complaints from qmail. of course i've already tried all chmod's in every possible directory, i gave the files in all responsible shared-folder-directories to the vpopmail user, to the qmail users, but nothing brought a change yet, the error message still remains and mail doesn't get sent to the user's inbox. does qmail have a problem with symlinks? the directory does exist and also i don't see why qmail bothers to read this link, it shouldn't pay attention to it at all should it? i also tried to make the shared folder read-only as well as read+write, and the error occurs in both modes. it really seems to be all about the 'shared'-link and i really don't get what's so wrong with it or why qmail actually bothers to read (or tries to do something odd with) it. also, the first part of the error message 'Unable_to_link_tmp etc.' wasn't there on some earlier tries, it was just 'Can't_create_tempfile' and then the remaining line. that's it, i really hope you've already come across that error and know a way to fix it or change/modify whatever is possible to make it work. thanks alot for your time, i still think qmail together with vpopmail and courier rules :) regards, markus stalder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: courier-imap rpm
I must appologizelooks like I'm going to be reloading a server here soon.:-) I have 2 servers set up almost identical...but with different histories. One was a fresh RedHat 6.0 install upgraded to 6.1 the other was a RH 4/5.2/6.0/6.1 upgraded server. I've had problems with 2 rpm's now that install just fine...but don't run correctly. No rhyme or reason. Courier-imap compiles...installswon't run. Zope compiles(from source rpm)installs...runs.but i can't log in to manage These 2 flukes have happened on the same server..and using the same software, work fine on my other one. Sorry for the snide remarks about courier not working from the rpm.. I should know by now to test on 2 servers before comenting. Thanks, Barry Smoke Network Admin Bryant Public Schools -Original Message- From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: Re: courier-imap rpm >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Barry Smoke wrote: > >> I will say that I was impressed about the rpm building straight from the >> tarball.but it should also work after installation. > >It works for me. > >-- >Sam > > >
Re: courier-imapd + vmailmgr
On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Barry Smoke wrote: > I know the author of vmailmgrd is working on that very thingand I > believe was close to finishingdue to be released in the next version. Yes, I am. In fact, I've written the code but haven't had time to test it yet. I'll put out a snapshot of the current code base on the web site. -- Bruce Guenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://em.ca/~bruceg/
Re: courier-imap rpm
yes...as I said...it doesn't work right out of the box. I will say that I was impressed about the rpm building straight from the tarball.but it should also work after installation. -Original Message- From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Qmail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 8:57 PM Subject: Re: courier-imap rpm >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Barry Smoke wrote: > >> Even though the author says there's no need to post a rpmit would >> be nice to have one that's ready to install, and runjust by >> changing the config file. > >As the instruction say, you build the binary RPM directly from the >tarball. > > >-- >Sam > > >
courier-imap rpm
Anyone used the rpm instructions on the courier-imap page and gotten them to work? All the files look like they install o.k.but on my RH6.0 system, I disabled the imap line in my inetd.conf file(in order to get rid of the bind: already in use error) because it looks to me like it uses couriertcpd to listen on it's own the start-up script runs...with the right messages, but I do a netstatand there's no port 143 being listened to...(yes...I'm using netstat -tan for a complete listing.) I do a ps auxand there's no imap process running.. Even though the author says there's no need to post a rpmit would be nice to have one that's ready to install, and runjust by changing the config file. Thanks, Barry Smoke
Re: courier-imapd + vmailmgr
I know the author of vmailmgrd is working on that very thingand I believe was close to finishingdue to be released in the next version. check the vmailmgr mailing list. Barry Smoke -Original Message- From: Steve Kondik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: courier-imapd + vmailmgr >I have started coding an authentication module for courier-imapd to support >vmailmgr style Maildirs. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel though- if >anyone has already implemented this I'd like to hear about it. > >Thanks, >-steve >
courier-imapd + vmailmgr
I have started coding an authentication module for courier-imapd to support vmailmgr style Maildirs. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel though- if anyone has already implemented this I'd like to hear about it. Thanks, -steve
Courier-IMAP Authenticate via Checkpassword !
Hi , I hava make a remote access server with radius and porslave and store my username on a mySQL table and radiusd authenticate via this table . So I have patch my qmail with that patch I have find on www.qmail.org that can make qmail to receive mail based on users and uid and gid and home dir that stored on mySQL table well. So It patch checkpassword for authenticate via mySQL table and qmail-pop3d work with this users that not stored in Linux passwd and they are only a mySQL users . I have apply virtual host support with mbox_host that can find in that patch . So my services work well so well ! But my problem is that I want to have IMAP service . So existance IMAP daemon only authenticate form PAM or passwd but I wanna to authenticate via mySQL table or chechpassword program that I have already patch it to authenticate via mySQL table . So Is there any way to setting Courier-IMAP daemon or any other IMAP daemon that work with qmail to authenticate via checkpassword or directly from mySQL table ? Thank You Hamid Hashemi Morva.net Admin
Re: courier imap and shared folders
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Samuel Gisiger wrote: > support courier imap shared folders? No, not yet, at least. What you can do, though, is set up a separate account, and use that as shared folders. Most IMAP clients can access multiple servers.
courier imap and shared folders
hi all, first: I'm a linux, qmail and imap greenhorn... i have a linux RH 6.0 and qmail 1.03 i try to replace ore NT exchange server with a linux qmail/maidir/imap configuration i uses Netscape4,7 and Outlook2000 as clients. first, i installed qmail and qmail-pop3d, all works fine! now i installs curier imap and it works fine but only on users inpox... i need shared folders that all mail users can see and move mails from users inpox to the shared folder. what is wrong? support courier imap shared folders? any help is welcome thanks sam samuel gisiger triaids engineering GmbH triadis engineering GmbH Eichholzstrasse 7 CH-3254 Messen Telefon +41 (31) 768 15 15 Internet www.triadis.ch
Re: can't use courier imapd (imap server for qmail) on solaris 7
On Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 07:32:53PM +0300, Max Shaposhnikov mentioned: > after compilling and running - all is fine > but when i try to connect to server from clients - nothing not happen > - timeout... > i try to telnet sun:143 > result: > > Escape character is '^]'. > * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-1999 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for >distribution information. > login shapa test > login NO Error in IMAP command received by server. > > - as i can see IMAP server doesn't understand login command! ;-( Try: 1 login shapa test unlike POP, IMAP wants a command sequence number. Kate -- Microsoft. The best reason in the world to drink beer. http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen PGP signature
can't use courier imapd (imap server for qmail) on solaris 7
after compilling and running - all is fine but when i try to connect to server from clients - nothing not happen - timeout... i try to telnet sun:143 result: Escape character is '^]'. * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-1999 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution information. login shapa test login NO Error in IMAP command received by server. - as i can see IMAP server doesn't understand login command! ;-( what can i do?
Re: Problem compiling courier-imap
Stefan Osterman writes: > More problems... > > Configure is done making the Makefiles but when I try to make I get this > > bash# make > Making all in numlib > Making all in bdbobj > gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c bdbobj2.c > bdbobj2.c: In function `bdbobj_firstkey': > bdbobj2.c:24: too few arguments to function > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `bdbobj2.o' > Current working directory /eggandbacon/usr/users/stv/courier-imap-0.18/bdbobj > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' > > I configured to use BerkelyDB2 No problems here with "Sleepycat Software: DB 2.4.14: (6/2/98)". -- Sam
Re: Problem compiling courier-imap
More problems... Configure is done making the Makefiles but when I try to make I get this bash# make Making all in numlib Making all in bdbobj gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -c bdbobj2.c bdbobj2.c: In function `bdbobj_firstkey': bdbobj2.c:24: too few arguments to function *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `bdbobj2.o' Current working directory /eggandbacon/usr/users/stv/courier-imap-0.18/bdbobj *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all-recursive' I configured to use BerkelyDB2 /Stefan At 18:13 1999-12-01 +0100, Thomas Neumann wrote: >Stefan Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have problem compiling courier-IMAP on Solaris 2.6 > > > > checking for wait... yes > > checking for wait3... yes > > checking for sigblock... no > > checking if wait function is broken... yes > > configure: error: I give up -- neither wait nor wait3 works properly > > configure: error: ./configure failed for waitlib > >You could try to configure '--with-waitfunc=wait3' to force it; maybe >it works anyway, but watch out for zombie processes once you have >imapd running. > > > To get this far I also had to set "without-random" > >Sometimes Solaris can suck a golf ball through a pipe ... > >-t - Stefan Österman Merkantildata Kommunikation AB Box 20161 161 02 Bromma Telefon + 46 8 5662 3087 Fax + 46 8 5662 3001 Mobil 0708-35 30 87 Internethttp://www.merkantildata.se E-post mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Problem compiling courier-imap
Stefan Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have problem compiling courier-IMAP on Solaris 2.6 > > checking for wait... yes > checking for wait3... yes > checking for sigblock... no > checking if wait function is broken... yes > configure: error: I give up -- neither wait nor wait3 works properly > configure: error: ./configure failed for waitlib You could try to configure '--with-waitfunc=wait3' to force it; maybe it works anyway, but watch out for zombie processes once you have imapd running. > To get this far I also had to set "without-random" Sometimes Solaris can suck a golf ball through a pipe ... -t
Problem compiling courier-imap
Hi I have problem compiling courier-IMAP on Solaris 2.6 checking for wait... yes checking for wait3... yes checking for sigblock... no checking if wait function is broken... yes configure: error: I give up -- neither wait nor wait3 works properly configure: error: ./configure failed for waitlib To get this far I also had to set "without-random" Please help /Stefan - Stefan Österman Merkantildata Kommunikation AB Box 20161 161 02 Bromma Telefon + 46 8 5662 3087 Fax + 46 8 5662 3001 Mobil 0708-35 30 87 Internethttp://www.merkantildata.se E-post mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
vmailmgrd & Courier-IMAP ?
Just wondering : is anybody using Courier-IMAP together with vmailmgr ? Would be _really_ interested to know if that works. UW-IMAPd is not quite ideal to be used with vmailmgr. Regards, Olivier
Re: Courier-IMAP: IMAP services for maildirs
Marlon Anthony Abao wrote: > > will ldap auth and directory services be included in a future version of > this imap implementation? We'll do the needed patches as part of qmail-ldap. At the moment I'm downloading courier-imap to look into it. -- Andre
Re: Courier-IMAP: IMAP services for maildirs
will ldap auth and directory services be included in a future version of this imap implementation? thanks. -marlon At 07:05 PM 10/26/99 -0400, Sam wrote: >Courier-IMAP provides IMAP access to Maildirs. Written from scratch, it >weighs in at 1/5th the size of UW-IMAP, despite a reasonably complete >IMAP4rev1 implementation. > >There might be some problems with vchkpw support in this first version, >but everything else is functional. Strict implementation of RFC 2060 >(IMAP4rev1) means that pretty much every IMAP client I tested was broken >in some way - even Pine (!), although Pine's IMAP implementation was the >best one I've looked at. Netscape Communicator's IMAP client also works, >although until someone at Netscape figures out that there is no such thing >as a negative message sequence number, checking for new mail and copying >messages between folders may not work very well. Microsoft Outlook works >more or less ok, but only because I relented and accomodated its bugs that >made folder creation and deletion a rather annoying experience. > > http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/ > >* Very fast. I opened a folder with 700 msgs for the first time with no > noticeable delay (on a reasonably fast box). > >* Supports /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and MD5 passwords. Supports PAM. > Allegedly supports vchkpw (not tested). Supports userdb (basically a > GDBM or DB based virtual mailbox database). PAM support basically means > that any PAM module can be used for authentication. > >* Same userdb and maildir driver as maildrop (and sqwebmail). > Courier-IMAP will see and access sqwebmail's folders. > >* Some anti script-kiddie measures - limit on max # of connections, limit > on max # of connections from the same IP address. Artificial delays for > bad passwords. > >What this means is that you no longer need to hack Pine into reading >Maildirs. Just run the server on localhost, and tell Pine to use IMAP to >localhost to read INBOX or file mail into folders. > >-- >Sam