On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:38:02PM -, Andy Woolley wrote:
Well, it certainly seems to be pointing to MySQL.com alright.
Although the domain name registrant is still NuSphere and DNS still
appears to be handled by NuSphere's command the IPAddress it
resolves to is definitely that of
I see the MySQL.org is now pointing to the MySQL.com site. I have not been
able to get an update anywhere on the Nusphere / MySQL lawsuit. The was no
recent news on the MySQL site and nusphere seems to be having server
problems. Can anyone shed some light on the latest?
sql, mysql
Fred
carrot dangling.
Does anyone have any info from the team yet?
Regards
Andy.
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From: Frederick L. Steinkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: MySQL.org
I see the MySQL.org is now pointing to the MySQL.com site. I
John Birrell wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:29:52PM -0400, Britt Johnston wrote:
MySQL AB and NuSphere had a meeting over the phone, we exchanged
information and opinions and NuSphere will propose times for the
next meeting.
Since these issues are between two private companies, please
Since these issues are between two private companies, please take
your discussions off this list. It is none of our business. By
all means, tell us the result.
This discussion most certainly is our business. I would appeal to both MySQL AB and
NuShphere to keep
discussions as public as is
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 01:13:15PM +0100, Mark Tiramani wrote:
Since these issues are between two private companies, please take
your discussions off this list. It is none of our business. By
all means, tell us the result.
This discussion most certainly is our business.
No it's not.
John Birrell wrote:
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 01:13:15PM +0100, Mark Tiramani wrote:
Since these issues are between two private companies, please take
your discussions off this list. It is none of our business. By
all means, tell us the result.
This discussion most certainly is
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:29:52PM -0400, Britt Johnston wrote:
MySQL AB and NuSphere had a meeting over the phone, we exchanged
information and opinions and NuSphere will propose times for the
next meeting.
Britt...
Britt, thanks for the update. The neutral tone and lack of
result make
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:29:52PM -0400, Britt Johnston wrote:
MySQL AB and NuSphere had a meeting over the phone, we exchanged
information and opinions and NuSphere will propose times for the
next meeting.
Britt...
Britt, thanks for the update. The neutral tone and lack of
substantial
Too bad it's not your list to make that decision, but
Monteys
Ruben
mysql - the database written and owned by MYSQL AB
On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 01:13:15PM +0100, Mark Tiramani wrote:
Since these issues are between two private companies, please take
your discussions off this list. It
of the
Box note. I thought Progress' only integration with MySQL was Gemini. Clearly
MySQL + Gemini != Portal. Hmmm!
I'm (probably?) not going anywhere with this, but, perhaps someone should order
the mysql.org product and check for PHP integration under interesting licensing
(not GPL
Van wrote:
Michael Meltzer wrote:
thought the list might want to know, this has been picked up by a trade
magazine, I got a copy of interactive week in sail mail today. (In my best
I'd have never caught that but for the list. Thanks. Wonder what the audience
for that site is.
[ database table sql ]
Van wrote:
Michael Meltzer wrote:
thought the list might want to know, this has been picked up by a trade
magazine, I got a copy of interactive week in sail mail today. (In my best
I'd have never caught that but for the list. Thanks. Wonder what the audience
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:17:31AM -0400, Bob Hall wrote:
I think I've made it clear that I'm not enamored of NuSphere's
recent actions, which I think are remarkably bone-headed. At
I'm afraid the emotions aroused by recent events have stripped
away my thin veneer of reasonable civility
something to read in the restroom.
MJM
- Original Message -
From: Van [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Meltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: mysql.org
Michael Meltzer wrote:
thought the list might want to know, this has been picked
to this, and the proposition that they
opened the mysql.org site as a Community site flies right in the face
of the proposition forwarded by NuShpere that they opened the site with full
rights to do so under previous agreements because they purchased control
over the MYSQL trademark because they did in secret
MySQL AB and NuSphere had a meeting over the phone, we exchanged
information and opinions and NuSphere will propose times for the
next meeting.
Britt...
--
D. Britton Johnston 603-578-6707 Nashua
Chief Technology Officer 781-280-4954 Bedford
NuSphere Corporation 781-280-4600 Main
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 12:29:52PM -0400, Britt Johnston wrote:
MySQL AB and NuSphere had a meeting over the phone, we exchanged
information and opinions and NuSphere will propose times for the
next meeting.
Since these issues are between two private companies, please take
your discussions
First, I support mySQL and Open Source community. Maybe you can fight them
with their own weapon. They have made some extra applications based on
mySQL, and they sell it. You can create same applications as Open Source.
-
of the mysql.org domain should be vehemently
rejected by the MySQL community. No matter what agreement may or may
not have been created, since MySQL AB has made it clear that this is
not what they want or intended. So to me it is obvious that any
agreement that may have been made is either being
the same time, a NuSphere-controlled mysql.org doesn't strike me
as a disaster, provided they can do it with out shooting
themselves in the foot, as they are doing now.
Nah
There using it as a marketing ploy to dup the public.
The should have released their GPLed extentions
Dear folks at NuSphere,
Thank you for your response to our open invitation. We disagree with a
number of your statements, but we look forward to having a phone contact
with you on Friday.
Marten Mickos
(database,sql,query,table)
the same time, a NuSphere-controlled mysql.org doesn't strike me
as a disaster, provided they can do it with out shooting
themselves in the foot, as they are doing now.
Nah
There using it as a marketing ploy to dup the public.
The should have released their GPLed extentions
Fact
MYSQL owns their trademark
Fact, what NuShpere brought form MYSQL is irrelevant as loing as they
are infrringing on the MYSQL Trademark...and they were going to do WORSE
until the public heat.
Until they apologies fo the GPL violation, and then the Trademark
infringment, they are pound
At 21:28 01-07-19, you wrote:
the same time, a NuSphere-controlled mysql.org doesn't strike me
as a disaster, provided they can do it with out shooting
themselves in the foot, as they are doing now.
Nah
There using it as a marketing ploy to dup the public.
The should
is when our community is
threatened
by an organization posing to be the real thing. It's been a few months since I needed
to
visit the mysql web site. My heart dropped when I went to mysql.org and their was a new
site were I had always gone for mysql. Then they wanted me to register. I figured
story in the
National Enquirer.
Furthermore, their behavior secondary to this, and the proposition that they
opened the mysql.org site as a Community site flies right in the face
of the proposition forwarded by NuShpere that they opened the site with full
rights to do so under previous agreements
thought the list might want to know, this has been picked up by a trade
magazine, I got a copy of interactive week in sail mail today. (In my best
sarcastic voice)As they say in Hollywood Any Publicity is good as long as
your spell the names right. Found a web version if any one wants a look.
MYSQL.NET
XMYSQL.COM
MYSQLPHP.COM
PHPMYSQL.COM
MYSQL-PHP.COM
MYSQLHOST.COM
-S
Aside from being incorrect about the process of tradmarking in the
US and the ability to defend a trademark while awaiting registry,
all these above websites are not claiming to be the official
table
This statement/release was very ordinary, very normal, very to-the-point
for any situation such as this. Condescending, no. Condescension,
like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Well, I didn't plan to give my opinion on this subject publicly.
But, I was alerted by the last post
As you are aware, we are forming a not-for-profit corporation to
focus on building and supporting a larger MySQL development
community and promoting MySQL. The mysql.org domain is expected
to be transferred to that organization. NuSphere has taken the
lead and is covering the costs of forming
Werner is correct in encouraging all to make up your own mind.
And, it is always possible that Orwellian DoubleSpeak is an
ingredient of these public statements and posturing.
But, a great distinction must be made here, and not tie the
idea of DoubleSpeak to a fear of manipulation, unless
you,
It seems to me that the bottom line is that any outcome that results
in there being a fork in the development of MySQL (with the result
being two completely different types of MySQL), or in NuSphere
retaining control of the mysql.org domain should be vehemently
rejected by the MySQL community
on the front. I love stability.
What is Gemini? And, what will it do for my clients that MySQL hasn't done for
the past 5 years using ISAM, or MySAM? Put that on the NuSphere.Org site
(whoops; mysql.org site). I don't care. My clients want stability and speed
and a development community they can trust
http://www.nusphere.org
Is available to register but I don't now why you would what to ;o).?
Simon
-Original Message-
From: Van [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 July 2001 10:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mysql.org (comments to old messages
restraint and a spirit of cooperation in its
ongoing public statements.
As you are aware, we are forming a not-for-profit corporation to
focus on building and supporting a larger MySQL development
community and promoting MySQL. The mysql.org domain is expected
to be transferred
fashion would be
welcome.
- Original Message -
From: Britt Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: mysql.org
Re: Open Invitation to NuSphere and Progress
NuSphere accepts MySQL AB's invitation to discuss
.
- Original Message -
From: Britt Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: mysql.org
Re: Open Invitation to NuSphere and Progress
NuSphere accepts MySQL AB's invitation to discuss resolution of
our
Britt:
I've read all of the posts regarding the controversy between MySQL AB and
NuSphere.
Not being a participant, I can't know all the details of your relationship
with MySQL AB, so I can only judge this in light of my own dealings with
them. Michael Widenius and David Axmark have always
[permission to come aboard, sql database query table]
Gerald R. Jensen wrote:
I wouldn't be concerned about this being discussed here on the list. After
all, we are talking about Open Source.
Gerald Jensen
-
Right, Mr. Jensen. My historical bent takes me further. I
I hate to differ with you here, John... but please check the following URL
and notice the price tag on it --
http://www.redhat.com/products/software/linux/7-1_standard.html
RedHat is betting on, correctly so, that users in general will not spend
the time and effort to download over 100 meg of
contribution as Gemini.
cut
Britt As we said last January, we planned on Gemini being released
Britt under an open source license as part of the launch of MySQL 4.0,
Britt but that release has not shipped so we have decided to release
Britt the source through mysql.org instead soon after its launch
BAUMEISTER Alexandre writes:
Michael,
It's years now that I use Mysql, post/read the mailing list, try to
help you solving bugs, testing new features (like InnoDB currently).
Why ? Because I really like Mysql, GPL licence and the way you work !
What NuLsphere is doing is
.. It's not always sure..
If I look at the mysql.org website it looks to me like I found the home of
MySQL. This is what most visitors which are unfamiliar with MySQL might or
will think. It's a very thin line.. I know..
If nushere want to provide the mysql community with addons or
enhancements.. why
it is a fine distinction to
say the (slight?) difference between mysql.com and mysql.org
would lead to confusion. Are you confused by the extant
mysql.net? What about xmysql.com? There have been arguments
by both parties that these so-called support sites are in
everyone's interest. This practice
is that even under the interim
agreement,
the operation
by NuSphere of mysql.org would have been a trademark violation.
Then, Marten, tell us what the status is of the trademark
application?
Under way, finished, or in the mail as suggested by the
other post from Sander Pilon?
The MySQL
called MySQL, and that MySQL AB (found at mysql.com) is a different
product all together. This, is in my opinion is simply not on.
I have been using MySQL for many years and I am now wondering if there
actually is a difference between MySQL and MySQL AB simply because mysql.org
are implying
MySQL and MySQL AB simply because mysql.org
are implying such a fact. Their web site is also giving me the impression
that they are responsible for the development of MySQL.I know Nusphere have
given both time and money to the development of MySQL but I really don't
think it quite justifies
Just to clarify the U.S. trademark point raised here ...
The fact that it is in the mail, in progress, or whatever is really
immaterial.
It is not at all unusual for the formal application for trademarks, service
marks, patents, copyrights, etc. to come months or even years after the
product's
,
I'm sure it's just a mis-understanding, and it'll get sorted out amicably soon.
Then I actually went and looked at the mysql.org site.
Now I find I must strongly agree with what Andy Wooley wrote:
At 15:05 +0100 2001/07/15, Andy Woolley wrote:
The impression I get from the .org site
Well, I have gone and looked more closely at mysql.org.
I am forced to confess that I find several disheartening features at this
site. I am unwilling at this juncture to typify these issues as deliberate or
ill-intentioned, but I will say that NuSphere needs to make a concerted,
immediate
1) While they do point out that they are not affliated, and
provide a link to MySQL AB, they do not state why this is
relevant, or why someone might WANT to go to MySQL AB.
Hmmm.. The NuSphere people may not be saying very much on
this list, but they're certainly listening in on what's
On Saturday, July 14, 2001, 9:25:51 PM, you wrote:
snip
JN GPL violation or not, part of my decisions are always based on
JN morals (hard to find these days). Anyone trying to capture an
JN audience using anothers name is un-ethical and un-moral. My
JN business decision will be made with this
. It is under this agreement
that we believe we have a clear right to use mysql.org.
See above. This right isn't clear to anyone except NuSphere.
MySQL AB's right to the trademark is clear to everyone.
Now it appears there is a need by MySQL AB to characterize
that agreement as no longer in effect - I
started the
company and we paid real money. It is under this agreement
that we believe we have a clear right to use mysql.org.
Now it appears there is a need by MySQL AB to characterize
that agreement as no longer in effect - I hope you can respect
the fact that NuSphere believes it is fully
- go find ha_gemini.cc and you will see it we
checked it in long ago in V4 and again in 3.23 when V4 was late.
The Gemini component itself will be released via mysql.org as GPL as
previously announced - note that Gemini itself is not a derivative
of MySQL in any way - it's roots date back
common socialogical phenomena,
the perception that sombody or a Company is somehow
exploiting Open Source with its train of reactions:
- NuSphere is a dirty bunch of guys
- Monty is being screwed
- et cetera ad infinitum
Personally, I could care less about the mysql.org
domain issue. I, more
Colin Faber writes:
Michael, Interesting idea but I think it would problematic over all,
The mysql manual changes almost everyday (anyone that syncs the bk
tree's knows) I would suggest a better solution would be to provide the
manual as a localized application (possibly even ported to
Justin,
I very much agree with your compliment to Jeremy for his posting.
Some notes on your posting follow.
At 14/07/01 14:03 +0200, Justin wrote:
Personally, I could care less about the mysql.org
domain issue. I, more or less, see it just as another
kind of ex-officio site supporting some
worked hard to
Britt get the details in writing before we even started the company
Britt and we paid real money. It is under this agreement that we
Britt believe we have a clear right to use mysql.org.
You never ever had right to operate MySQL.org
Britt Now it appears there is a need by MySQL AB
, and good for all, but that
the mysql.org site is, technically, only a trademark
issue, in their eyes.
One has seen a convergence to the real nub, visible to
all of us interested observers, that the remedy for
GPL violations is not satisfied by late compliance
or other possibly-obscure methods
Britt Johnston wrote:
As far as mysql.org goes, what NuSphere would like to see is a
non-profit organization running that site - we have been consistent
in this desire for over a year, but it has been opposed by Monty
and David. I discussed this with Monty as recently as a few weeks
ago
Alright. I have received Mr. Johnson's permission to share the email response
he made to me. it is included herewith for informational purposes without
comment or prejudice:
cut here
NOTE: personal opening comments removed for brevity
mysql.org has not been publically
In response to the posting by Thomas J Keller of Britt Johnston's text, I
feel I have to come with the following comments.
(The quoted text marked with is by Britt Johnston)
mysql.org has not been publically announced and it will take
some time for it to become the thriving community
Marten Mickos wrote:
In response to the posting by Thomas J Keller of Britt Johnston's text, I
feel I have to come with the following comments.
(The quoted text marked with is by Britt Johnston)
mysql.org has not been publically announced and it will take
some time for it to become
.
Is the .ORG domain worth that much to NuSphere?
4) It pisses off MySQL AB. Clearly it's in their best interest to be
friends with MySQL AB.
5) Although MySQLs pressrelease (on MySQL.COM, Slashdot, etc) telling
people NOT to visit MySQL.ORG probably had the effect that the site had
more visitors
The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that someone needs to
offer the following observations:
It is unfortunate that so many people within this community are so eager to
assume the worst about a company, simply because they ARE a company. Not all
corporations are Mickey$lu$h
)
mysql.org has not been publically announced and it will take
some time for it to become the thriving community it is destined
to be. My hope is that rather than fighting it, you can join it
and be part of an even more vibrant mysql community.
We do not oppose communities
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From: Marten Mickos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
cut
/cut
serious
Our interpretation is that even under the interim agreement,
the operation
by NuSphere of mysql.org would have been a trademark violation.
Then, Marten, tell us what the status
became aware of
the
controversy surrounding 'Enhanced MySQL' and mysql.org.
The purchase order went into the round file, and Hell will freeze over
before I buy anything from NuSphere.
A small gesture, perhaps, but an appropriate one. At least our company
won't
be contributing
handler itself is already part of MySQL and is
licensed under the GPL - go find ha_gemini.cc and you will see it we
checked it in long ago in V4 and again in 3.23 when V4 was late.
The Gemini component itself will be released via mysql.org as GPL as
previously announced - note that Gemini
-Original Message-
From: Marten Mickos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
cut
/cut
serious
Our interpretation is that even under the interim agreement,
the operation
by NuSphere of mysql.org would have been a trademark violation.
Then, Marten, tell us what the status
At 01:25 15/07/01, Thomas J Keller wrote:
Marten Mickos wrote:
In response to the posting by Thomas J Keller of Britt Johnston's text, I
feel I have to come with the following comments.
(The quoted text marked with is by Britt Johnston)
mysql.org has not been publically announced
respectfully disagree with your suggestion that such a site
would spread confusion and give discredit to MySQL.
I think it is a fine distinction to
say the (slight?) difference between mysql.com and mysql.org
would lead to confusion. Are you confused by the extant
mysql.net? What about xmysql.com
Reposting because of annoying filter.
On 15 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your message cannot be posted because it appears to be either spam or
simply off topic to our filter. To bypass the filter you must include
one of the following words in your message:
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Nusphere or mysql.org. We will make sure that our organisation will not
have anything to do with mysql.org.
We are happy with MySQL. We are using MySQL for development in many of
our projects since 2 years ago and we have only good things to say
about MySQL.
Best regards,
Santi Chumbe
Can't we pull the mysql.org domain from under them? Surely this breaches
domain name usage?
joel
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From: Michael Widenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 July 2001 06:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mysql.org
Hi!
Enhanced MySQL(tm
: mysql.org
PeterWR wrote:
Then you can start wondering why one software company wants to promote
open
source by using another companys software - why is the Progress
database
not good enough for NuSphere ???
Best regards
Peter
Copnehagen Denmark
Peter:
Have your ever worked
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: mysql.org
Can't we pull the mysql.org domain from under them? Surely this breaches
domain name usage?
joel
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From: Michael Widenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 July 2001 06
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From: Gerry Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:15 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mysql.org
Monty and all at MySQL,
I am
there, it will propagate.
Monty and crew need to be isolated from these types of issues, so they can
continue to develop in the style they've proven to us works very well.
Progress needs to read what we're saying and look closely at their motivation
for establishing their presence with the launch of mysql.org
Monty:
I was on the verge of authorizing the purchase of 3 copies of NuSphere's
PHPEd package (US$300 each) for our developers when I became aware of the
controversy surrounding 'Enhanced MySQL' and mysql.org.
The purchase order went into the round file, and Hell will freeze over
before I buy
, 2001 7:15 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mysql.org
Monty and all at MySQL,
I am sorry to hear about this most unfortunate situation. It is sad to see
that NuSphere have taken it upon themselves
Gerald R. Jensen wrote:
Monty:
I was on the verge of authorizing the purchase of 3 copies of NuSphere's
PHPEd package (US$300 each) for our developers when I became aware of the
controversy surrounding 'Enhanced MySQL' and mysql.org.
The purchase order went into the round file
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:49 AM
To: Gerald R. Jensen
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: mysql.org
Gerald R. Jensen wrote:
Monty:
I was on the verge of authorizing the purchase of 3 copies of NuSphere's
PHPEd package (US$300 each) for our developers
Hi,
The article mentions that the Web site will confuse new users, but I
think this one will confuse them even more:
http://mysql.net/
(for non-Japanese users that is).
Korean, actually.
--
Matthias Urlichs (being exceedingly helpful today)
Hi!
Tim == Tim Endres [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If anyone has any comments about how we at MySQL AB work as an open
source company, please write to our CEO Marten Mickos via
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will welcome your suggestions. We are
totally dependent on the trust of our users, as
Well.
It should be an interesting Open Source convention in
San Diego later this month...
database,sql,query,table
--
Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Before posting, please check:
http://www.mysql.com/manual.php
Hi!
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Sander I do not deny their claim on the trademark OR domain,
but I am
Sander somewhat unpleasantly surprised by the means they try
to resolve
Sander this matter, and the fact that nobody in a what I
assume is an
Sander internet-aware company like MySQL even considered
I am far from a legal expert on this... but is it all that bad that
NuSphere wishes to sell a derivative work of MySQL? Other than it competes
with MySQL AB's business of selling their own commercial deployments of the
package? And by that I can somewhat see why NuSphere is using the phrase
mysql.org they are also violating our trademark; If we are
not defending our trademark we may loose it.
If they would have released the server and all source code as NuSphere
SQL on 'www.nusphere.com', we at MySQL AB wouldn't had any reason to
complain.
(Of course, a fork is never a good thing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am far from a legal expert on this... but is it all that bad that
NuSphere wishes to sell a derivative work of MySQL? Other than it competes
with MySQL AB's business of selling their own commercial deployments of the
package? And by that I can somewhat see why
-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:36:08 -0700
I am far from a legal expert on this... but is it all that bad that
NuSphere wishes to sell a derivative work of MySQL? Other than it competes
with MySQL AB's business
database,sql,query,table
Now most of us in/using Open Source probably do not _really_
understand the meaning and ramifications of the GPL. We _think_
we know, and we certainly have a feeling about what the GPL
means.
Oh Bull
Making a derived work from a GPL product and
On Friday, July 13, 2001, 8:02:16 PM, you wrote:
MW MySQL is GPL, so it's ok to sell derivate works. The problem is
MW however that NuSphere has been selling derivate work but not complied
MW to the GPL license, which is NOT ok.
MW By using mysql.org they are also violating our trademark
At 8:09 PM -0400 7/13/01, Mark A. Chalkley wrote:
I, for one, was
considering purchase of their distribution just to get the printed
manuals, but wouldn't have one from them now if they were giving them
away.
BTW, why doesn't MySQL AB print the manual and sell it? I would
gladly pay US $ 30-40
Michael, Interesting idea but I think it would problematic over all,
The mysql manual changes almost everyday (anyone that syncs the bk
tree's knows) I would suggest a better solution would be to provide the
manual as a localized application (possibly even ported to
PalmOS/WindowsCE), Anyone?
At 9:15 PM -0600 7/13/01, Colin Faber wrote:
Michael, Interesting idea but I think it would problematic over all,
The mysql manual changes almost everyday (anyone that syncs the bk
tree's knows) I would suggest a better solution would be to provide the
manual as a localized application
Colin Faber wrote:
Michael, Interesting idea but I think it would problematic over all,
The mysql manual changes almost everyday (anyone that syncs the bk
tree's knows) I would suggest a better solution would be to provide the
manual as a localized application (possibly even ported to
I think all of us should send a letter to the people who appropriated
the MySQL.org name. In my opinion, if MySQL AB wants this domain they
should have the right to it. To me, it is a show of disrespect to the
fine folks at MySQL AB and I am disgusted that mysql.org has chosen
to so blatantly
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