truggled with that question too, so I look forward to hearing what
other sites are doing.
I've also never been sure what the best practice is for where these
type of host-specific resources should be in the overall class hierarchy.
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the correct stream,
then the 2nd package resource does install the version we want.
Obviously, we want to control the one-time module stream selection in
puppet too.
Can anyone tell me what the correct idiom is to do what I'm trying to
accomplish?
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RHEL 9 has been out for a few weeks.
I see OpenSource puppet agent 7 and puppet bolt packages for RHEL 9, but
no OpenSource puppet agent 6 releases.
Are there plans to package puppet agent 6 for RHEL 9?
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r than 3.8.x to 5.x. Martin's info
confirmed that I had found everything I needed. The Example42 blog
post Martin linked was also very helpful in working around the CA changes.
The upgrade went smoothly and we've been using 6.x for a few weeks now.
Thanks again!
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between 3.8 and 5.x,
but there has to be more to it than just update the packages without
making any changes to your config files, etc.
For others that have been through the same upgrade recently, what docs
did you follow, and were there any gotchas that weren't covered?
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are the replacements for these
resources that have transitioned to "private"? It just seems strange to
me to mark something as private without first having an established
replacement.
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searched these forums and the web, and other than an outdated and
now incorrect hit on StackOverflow, I'm not finding information on what
should replace *public* use of mysql_user and mysql_grant.
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modernize and
hopefully simplify several of our home-grown modules and classes. The
time you took to read and reply is greatly appreciated.
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. The options you considered and then rejected,
and the reasons why were also very useful to hear.
Between you and John, I have lots of great suggestions that I now need
to consider.
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In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] class parameters that depend on other...:
On 2018-06-12 00:55, Tim Mooney wrote:
[snip some of my original context]
Here's an example:
modules/sandbox/manifests/init.pp:
#
# This module exists only to serve as a sandbox where we can experiment with
# puppet
inherits from sandbox::params to follow the "params
pattern", so settings in the parent class end up depending upon on
parameters to the child class.
Assuming I don't have any need to support old versions of puppet (anything
before 5.x), what's
master and the client,
if anyone is interested in looking through it.
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thoughts on this! Very much appreciated.
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of ruby on the master vs. all of the clients? Have other RHEL
users tried this, with any success?
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helpful! Thanks so much for the information
you've provided! It very likely has saved me a lot of work.
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Labs packages
anymore, at least on the master.
The big concern I have relates to how advisable it is to use a different
version of ruby on the master vs. all of the clients? Have other RHEL
users tried this, with any success?
Thanks,
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On 2014-07-11 23:43, Tim Mooney wrote:
In regard to: [Puppet Users] Re: creating hashes from other hashes,
Luke...:
Huh, at first glance that to me looks like a parser bug.
Not so much a bug as an unessesary
to accomplish this task with stdlib::merge
either.
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hash, give it a single top-level
key that is a variable, and assign a separate (passed-in as a parameter)
hash as the value for that key? I would be fine with using stdlib::merge,
but I don't see any obvious way to accomplish this task with stdlib::merge
either.
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parameters in the puppetlabs-apache module assume the
older 'httpd' package, /etc/httpd for the base dir, etc. I'm looking
for what parameters people are passing to the apache class to get it
to work with the httpd24 alternate.
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subversion would be greatly appreciated!
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In regard to: [Puppet Users] Re: selecting a command in a provider based on...:
On Friday, April 11, 2014 7:15:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Mooney wrote:
Hi All!
The tl;dr version:
Can anyone point me at an example of an existing provider that selects
a particular command based not on a facter fact
,
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responses.
Any suggestions as to what the problem really is, because it's *not* that
I'm missing rubygems.
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didn't make any difference.
I definitely appreciate the response and the suggestions for stuff
to look for, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be what's causing
the issue.
Tim
On 1/8/2014 5:16 PM, Tim Mooney wrote:
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I've been struggling with this all afternoon, so it's time to ask
response.
Brent Clark posted to this list in December with the same problem, but
there were no follow-up responses.
Any suggestions as to what the problem really is, because it's *not* that
I'm missing rubygems.
Thanks,
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In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] passing an environment variable to a...:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu wrote:
We have some custom types providers related to mysql (mysql_user,
mysql_grant, mysql_db) written by an admin that's no longer here. The
provider
In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] passing an environment variable to a...:
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works fine, but on hosts where we use our mysql module with the custom
types and provider, we can't do that. We instead have to
sudo su
as puppet ignorance, but I have to believe that there are
people here that can point me in the right direction.
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presented a slight barrier to entry for becoming
really comfortable with puppet.
ruby -e require 'iconv'; puts Iconv.list.sort
That should dump out the list of available encodings. That should help us
at least more properly triangulate the issue.
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it to work again.
My recommendation is that you install 3.0.x somewhere, install
puppet-lint, and use puppet-lint and puppet parser validate on your
manifests. Study the output from both, and adjust accordingly.
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and we're
using %H (fqdn) rather than %h (short host name).
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).
Note that if your puppet master is a client of itself (or some other
puppet master) then the puppet agent running there still needs to be
run as root. The agent enforces the state, which requires administrative
access. The master calculates the state, which doesn't.
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that's running http and has enough disk space to
store your RPMs, you're already most of the way there.
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:/usr/sbin',
command = 'postmap generic',
refreshonly = true,
notify = Service['postfix'],
}
restart service postfix
service { 'postfix':
ensure = running,
enable = true,
}
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currently stand booleans from hiera are just a trap for the unwary.
I would actually do the wordpress stuff as a separate class, which has
its own wordpress::instance define, and then call that define from within
your sugar::instance define.
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need to define your repo to puppet and then
use a very standard package resource to make it present.
Note the yumrepo resource type supports a lot more attributes, which you
may wish to investigate.
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rpmbuild -ba -v rhn-satellite-32bit-deps.spec
and then you put that package in your local repo and have puppet
package { 'rhn-satellite-32bit-deps':
ensure = installed,
}
This virtual package then pulls in whatever dependencies you have listed.
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/lib/dir is not
present.
But if you're going to build fetch/extract/configure/compile/install logic
into a shell script, you're probably 85% of the way to packaging the
software appropriately anyway.
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In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] Have Class Only Perform Actions When There...:
On Friday, October 26, 2012 2:31:56 PM UTC-4, Tim Mooney wrote:
In regard to: [Puppet Users] Have Class Only Perform Actions When There
Is...:
I would highly recommend you just package your custom python
In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet Oracle Database config...:
Have you got any examples of the hiera config you're using?
As I said, it's pretty rough.
class oracledb::sysctl(
$use_amm = false,
$large_mem_pages = '0',
$hugetlb_gid = '1001',
) {
validate_bool($use_amm)
in
the manifest for whether AMM is in use or hugepages.
We too have multiple databases per host, which complicates things
somewhat.
If you come up with something you feel is even moderately elegant,
consider sharing it on the forge.
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and keep refining.
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seems to follow
any notion of versions or releases. This makes packaging and local
version tracking a bit more tricky.
I see that you PuppetLabs folks are continuing to do a good job of tagging
release versions, though. That's great news, and I certainly hope it
continues.
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info: Applying configuration version '1349982313'
notice: Finished catalog run in 49.28 seconds
Does it change if you also add '--no-noop' to the puppet apply command?
Is it possible someone modified /etc/puppet.conf and added 'noop = true'?
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In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] anchor pattern and class containment...:
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu wrote:
All-
We're currently using puppet 2.7.14 on master and all clients.
I thought I understood why 'anchor' is part of stdlib, but after
re-reading
In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] anchor pattern and class containment...:
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu wrote:
I thought I understood why 'anchor' is part of stdlib, but after
re-reading both
I suspect Dan John have covered this well enough for you but I
for standard
resources.
Also, the ticket was with respect to 2.6. I know this hasn't changed for
2.7, but is there anything in 3.0 that addresses the issue?
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the 'before = Class[slave]' that you're
using isn't doing what you want.
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file, but I've reviewed the classes involved
here and don't see any problems.
Any thoughts on whether it's possible to load the top level of a nested
class?
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to our VCS. :-| Oops.
Thanks,
Tim
On 28.09.2012, at 12:53, Tim Mooney wrote:
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I'm using puppet 2.7.14. I've reviewed
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/2.7/reference/modules_fundamentals.html
but it doesn't seem to cover what I'm attempting.
Consider a module layout like
. We looked
at templating some of the config but decided that was more advanced than
what we wanted for our first solr roll-out.
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://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
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On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Mooney wrote:
If I need to open a separate ticket to get that kind of directional
clarity, I would be happy to do so.
A ticket specifically about this use-case
a bit of perspective from
people who are already using puppet in the wild.
I'm hoping that other more experienced puppet users will weigh in on this
too, as I certainly am not expert enough yet to have all the answers for
this particular area.
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as many of the Puppetlabs employees,
that would be pretty easy, but unfortunately I'm not.
I do appreciate the response! It's really nice to know the thoughts of
the people that are the experts on this. It helps me to plan the
direction for our environment.
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saying either bad idea, don't
do it or yeah, should work and we're not opposed to it.
If I need to open a separate ticket to get that kind of directional
clarity, I would be happy to do so.
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that this kind of thing is going to happen on
occasion, especially when a major release is in the works. I certainly
do.
The trick is going to be stamping out places where you must top-scope
facts may have already crept into documentation or people's puppet
idioms.
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system pull in the prereqs, rather than trying to repeat all of the same
relationships in your puppet classes.
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for the
thread and some options. I believe the subject was linting manifests
with long lines.
My solution:
01:20 PM dogbert ~$ cat ~/.puppet-lintrc
--no-80chars-check
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system...
[us1:i-16c5c050] root@testweb11:~# facter | grep ec2_instance_type
ec2_instance_type = m1.large
It's a facter variable. What's it complaining about?
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.
It's one of those things that I wish I had known before I spent hours
changing our modules in preparation for what I thought was going to
be a requirement for puppet 3.x, but better late than never. :-)
I appreciate the clarity you've provided on this.
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:
ntp_type: client
ntp_servers:
- 10.0.0.1
- 10.0.0.2
location/datacenter1.yaml:
ntp_servers:
- 10.1.0.101
- 10.1.0.102
fqdn/clock1.example.com.yaml:
ntp_type: server
As I've said before on the list, this strikes me as a bit unnatural.
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to your question, but hopefully this gives you
something to go on. If it's not enough to go on, provide more information
about your environment. That will hopefully make it easier for someone to
suggest a method that works well for your environment.
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for the host key for each element.
Anyone have an example of how to do this in a template?
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with how our complex data should be organized in hiera. I'm looking
forward to the hiera examples that Kelsey Hightower mentioned a couple
weeks ago on the list, but seeing examples like this in the interim is
really helpful and appreciated.
Tim
On Aug 9, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Tim Mooney tim.moo
direction.
Tim
On Thursday, August 9, 2012 1:38:14 PM UTC-7, Tim Mooney wrote:
Environment: puppet 2.7.14 on both master and all clients. We're also
using puppetlabs-stdlib and hiera, if that matters.
I know this is really more of a ruby/erb question, but I've been searching
for a couple
via _
method that we're currently using.
My hope is that some best practices and more examples with be part of some
forthcoming documentation.
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result back to the
client for application.
Note also that this means that all functions run on the master too.
See:
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/learning/agent_master_basic.html
though I've actually seen better diagrams of the communication, that's
the one I'm finding right now.
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to look.
Try using yes/no (as strings) and checking for that in your class.
You may also want to run puppet-lint on your manifests, it's not perfect
but it will help catch a number of issues.
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to do whatever
is needed to work correctly with puppet.
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would try next.
Note that split() is part of the default set of functions that are part
of puppet. For more info on functions, see
http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/function.html
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don't know if that same thing is true for supplemental groups, but if
it's not, I would first try using the - notation to establish ordering,
like this
Group[$groups] - User[$username]
Does that work for you?
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, but it wouldn't
cause the exec to happen unless then driver was detectable as not
available.
The real trick is detecting whether or not the driver is installed. Once
you figure out how to do that, the rest just falls into place.
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or our_site module already that
just does things like
include ntp
include admin_packages
include ssh
include syslog
etc. You could associate your custom fact(s) with that module by putting
them in the lib/facter directory for that module.
Tim
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complicated data structures.
Both recommendations on whether or not that's a good idea *and* examples
on how to successfully access the nested bits from within puppet would
be appreciated.
Advanced examples with create_resources() might also be useful.
Thanks much,
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developing your own (perhaps
one for a database). See
http://puppetlabs.com/blog/when-puppet-reports-part-1/
Note also there's a part 2 that you'll want to check out.
The most straightforward method would probably be to enable the yaml
backend and just pull the data from there.
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is working correctly, but the code itself
isn't doing what you expect.
If it doesn't exist, then it's not getting synced down to the client(s)
correctly, so you'll need to debug why that is.
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That's all around the best available option. It's much nicer than the
original version, even, because users don't have to separately include
class 'ldconfig' before they can use the define.
Agreed, that's something I was hoping to avoid.
Thanks,
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu wrote:
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I've been working through our local manifests with puppet-lint, trying
to make certain we're as prepared as possible for puppet 3.x. I
}]', but that too
seems pretty hackish, though it may be my fall-back position if
someone doesn't have a more elegant way to handle this.
Any thoughts on how this should be re-organized?
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(
'',
'http://some-relatively-long-url.com',
'/some-path/centos$releasever/$basearch'
),
gpgcheck = '1',
descr= 'Some Yum Repository',
}
}
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'),
],
order = '01',
}
puppet does not support this either :)
what you'll get there is a concat of the 2 templates
Oh, that's quite disappointing. We'll need to completely rethink how
we're doing this.
Thanks again,
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. Can anyone suggest a more elegant method,
or some syntax that I'm missing?
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.${::fqdn}.erb),
template('firewall/firewall-base'),
],
order = '01',
}
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today.
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- what version is present in each instance
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In regard to: Re: [Puppet Users] Telly: Nagios types moving into Module,...:
If I wanted to use a
secondary package management system, I could use gems or eggs or CPAN, but I
don't. ;)
+1.
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for /etc/resolv.conf which simply plug in data available in
variables accessible by the template
You probably could do that, but I think the template will be more
complicated this way. Selecting different templates based on what type
of system it is makes the template simpler.
Tim
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,
and what are the recommendations for whether we should (or shouldn't) be
quoting true false when passing them around into parameterized classes
and testing them in selectors?
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amount of whitespace
# For some reason iptables -L has a whitespace after NEW
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
echo iptables is running
exit 0
else
echo iptables is stopped
exit 3
fi
;;
**
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an idea how I can rewrite things so that the match isn't
dependent on the exact current order of arguments, and instead matches
relative to the position of a previous argument (uid) or pair of arguments
(uid and =)?
Any thoughts appreciated,
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