[313] Charles Webster

[Mad'R]

Anybody heard his new album yet ?

what do you think ?

thxs

Mad'R


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Re: [313] aini?t no answer

[neontsetse]

Dear ladys, 

would you mind not making this posting only look ridiculous  ?

would you mind pointing out the things you don´t agree with ? 

would you mind showing up your own thoughts ?

What I was doing was showing up some complicated stuff - 

also including some deep feelings 

It´s not easy to go out there, this way - 

to talk about the harder things in life 

I can imagine there might be views that people do not agree with 

or some things were not explained the best way, they should be 

why don´t you pick out the subjects that you don´t agree with

or you might do know better ? 

this way you deny lot´s of stuff 

too many things I would think 


> I think you've had too many bites from those tsetse flies. I suggest you
go 
> and have a lie down.

> no more drugs for *you*.


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Re: [313] aini?t no Ewoks - this is getting serious

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] aini?t no Ewoks -  this is getting serious Date: Wed, 30 Jan 
2002 22:25:54 +0100 (MET)


Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ?

I thought they would be from London - Ewokland -

Ii?m very sorry (Scottish people aini?t no Ewkos)

and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks"

Ii?m gonna stop the joking now,

as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff -

let me xplain -  iti?s gonna get 313-related and iti?s gonna get heavy -

- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ -

nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction,

but the world is built on this, so iti?s a reality I have to face

in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France,

the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history -

theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez,

other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate,

they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world
order" -

- Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, 
Ireland

etc..

cauze of that

- many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances -

cauze of that

- the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess

cauze of that

now -

all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line -

music always is (transformed by artists) -

if therei?s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music",

if iti?s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists,

the rocki?n roll robbery by elvis etc...

if iti?s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george
clinton, 4hero

This list is about the "313-construction"

It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit

Most artists are black artists who created this music,

now the views of many people about this music are coming from various
perspectives,

but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and
white"

musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background
of it ?

I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right

relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music -

this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning

the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way

of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have

iti?s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the
pop-aspect)

See, I doni?t want to be over- preachy

and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision,

and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists

though the shit keeps happening all the time -

but I think we all do have the responsibility

to take care ... much more care ...

and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course,

to enjoy it 100 %,

but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction,

that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture

in a "classical colonial" tradition,

there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails,

and understand,

when Ii?m doing the same kind of mistakes

please tell me and teach me -

shoutz

m

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I think you've had too many bites from those tsetse flies. I suggest you go 
and have a lie down.

Shosh

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RE: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious

[Matthew Mangold]

no more drugs for *you*.

m

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Subject: [313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious


Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ?
I thought they would be from London - Ewokland -
I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos)
and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks"
I´m gonna stop the joking now,
as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff -
let me xplain -  it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy -
- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ -
nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction,
but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face
in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France,
the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history -
theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez,
other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate,
they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world
order" -
- Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland
etc..
cauze of that
- many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances -
cauze of that
- the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess
cauze of that
now -
all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line -
music always is (transformed by artists) -
if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music",
if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists,
the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc...
if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george
clinton, 4hero
This list is about the "313-construction"
It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit
Most artists are black artists who created this music,
now the views of many people about this music are coming from various
perspectives,
but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and
white"
musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background
of it ?
I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right
relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music -
this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning
the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way
of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have
it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the
pop-aspect)
See, I don´t want to be over- preachy
and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision,
and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists
though the shit keeps happening all the time -
but I think we all do have the responsibility
to take care ... much more care ...
and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course,
to enjoy it 100 %,
but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction,
that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture
in a "classical colonial" tradition,
there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails,
and understand,
when I´m doing the same kind of mistakes
please tell me and teach me -
shoutz
m

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Re: [313] uk tech-house

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From: "rob webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] uk tech-house
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:55:00 +

Binnie:


i thought swayzak were now micro-house and not tech-house...?


last i heard they'd gone all micro-techfunkstep... but then i read that in
Muzik, so who knows? ;)



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Rob
I think you'll find that it's actually microstep-twofunkcheesewire
It's rocking your local deli counter on an almost daily basis. I heard it on 
the grapevine and that's the most reliable source I know. Take it from me 
it's second only to the Chinese whisper, very reliable don't you know.

Shosh

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Re: [313] uk tech-house

[Shosh _]

So what style of muse is Mark Dale playing these days? Also where is he 
playing out?
Looking for some inspiring new places and people to visit and meet. Cabin 
fever is getting too 
muchmust...get...out..or.will.go.insane!


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Re: [313] OT: Adam F

[Cyclone Wehner]

I finally played the Adam F hip-hop album and it's really strong. It has a
big cinematic soundtrack feel, if you like RZA productions circa Wu-Tang
Forever, this will appeal. I think the album would have been more of a
commercial success had Adam waited to build up his name  a little more in
hip-hop before doing a  conceptual album, since the usual way is to lace up
everyone a la Neptunes/Timbaland, then do an LP when the kids know who you
are. I think he probably went into it a little fast. The start of the song
Last Dayz (with Pharoahe Monch, formerly of the ace Organized Konfusion and
Simon Says fame) would be good to kick off a techno set with. It's got a
strong New World Order dystopian theme. 

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[313] ain´t no Ewoks - this is getting serious

[neontsetse]

Swayzak - they are not Ewoks ?

I thought they would be from London - Ewokland - 

I´m very sorry (Scottish people ain´t no Ewkos) 

and though some friend just sent me "whip the Ewoks" 

I´m gonna stop the joking now,

as there also was some serious thought behind this silly stuff -

let me xplain -  it´s gonna get 313-related and it´s gonna get heavy - 

- me myself - I am half-ewok and half of a germ -

nationality to me is a damned metaphysical construction, 

but the world is built on this, so it´s a reality I have to face 

in this reality England and Germany and some other Nations as France, 

the USA cauzed and still cauze so much horror in the line of history - 

theese Nations repressed and killed countless people and culturez,

other national constructionz and move them around on the big plate, 

they fight all the time various dirty games for the structures of "world
order" -

- Ghetto-reality, Palestine, Isreal (a part in a game too), Nigeria, Ireland
etc..

cauze of that 

- many people in Detroit still live under bad circumstances - 

cauze of that 

- the biggest continent Africa, the major source - is kept in a mess 

cauze of that 

now -

all music we hear nowadays is connected to the history line -

music always is (transformed by artists) -

if there´s Kraftwerks idea of creating "tribal music",

if it´s about the rolling stones stealing from blues-artists, 

the rock´n roll robbery by elvis etc... 

if it´s about the alien-thing by many black artists as sun ra, george
clinton, 4hero

This list is about the "313-construction"  

It was started cauze of "techno-music" coming from Detroit 

Most artists are black artists who created this music, 

now the views of many people about this music are coming from various
perspectives, 

but why is it that it happens that people highlight certain "european and
white" 

musical influences, even more then the historical afro-american background
of it ?  

I feel the amount of theese influences mentioned here is not in the right 

relation to the main basis and main source of much of the music - 

this shows a picture, that is changing the meaning 

the Ewok-joke was a silly inspiration to question the way  

of understanding music the "English" do, which also does have 

it´s certain tradition in the line of history... (highlighting the
pop-aspect) 

See, I don´t want to be over- preachy 

and I feel much love 4 "this house is our house"-vision, 

and am so gratefull this door is still opened by artists

though the shit keeps happening all the time - 

but I think we all do have the responsibility 

to take care ... much more care ... 

and that means to enjoy the music and the party of course, 

to enjoy it 100 %, 

but as long as I feel things are getting pulled into a certain direction,

that seems to be a part of stealing or redefining the 313-culture

in a "classical colonial" tradition, 

there will be those wrong spelled grammar f***ing preachy mails, 

and understand, 

when I´m doing the same kind of mistakes 

please tell me and teach me - 

shoutz 

m

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[313] Wonky

[Nick Hardie]

Sorry to Spam, but for anyone who is in Liverpool this weekend, we're having 
our first party of the year, and in downscaled tribute to Jeff Mills and his 
house club business we've got Ste Bass (Era) playing a disco set out for the 
first time.

Cheers
Nick

Wonky presents Farrago
Friday 1 February
Downstairs at Mello Mello
Liverpool

[313] Tomorrow @ Mixworks//Buzz Goree wsg Punisher and Lynx

[keleigh casper]

Mixworks, Thursdays @ Porter St.
1400 Porter St.
between Eighth and Trumbull

THURSDAY, JANUARY 31

BUZZ GOREE -- UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE, Detroit
wsg:
Punisher, Detroit
Lynx, Detroit

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 7

D-WYNN -- MUSIC INSTITUTE, KMS PRODUCTIONS, Detroit
w/ resident John Willams

Special thanks to our artists from last week: Kaku, Scan 7 and Craig Huckaby 
and guest on percussion, and to everyone who came out and had a good time.


Starting in February, there will be no cover charge before 11 pm, as well as 
drink special ALL NIGHT LONG.


Mixworks is sponsored by: Made in Detroit, Submerge, Real Detroit, 
motormouth.org, Record Time and Current. Support local talent.




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Re: [313] am I the only one who is getting sick of deleting posts about jungle???

[Nick Hardie]

> what is wrong with Little Richard??

Nothing in my mind. Saw him play live last year, and if I can do that at his
age, I'll be made up

Cheers
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RE: [313] Track ID

[Slow Me]

it's dj buck- make it hot on siesta music

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Subject: [313] Track ID


From:

http://212.40.161.253/rams/wmflounge200701.ram

at 35:20 into the 6 hr set

Heard it a lot and don't know what it is.

thanks

Gregory B. Lee, Junior Environmental Engineer
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[313] Track ID

[Greg Lee]

From:

http://212.40.161.253/rams/wmflounge200701.ram

at 35:20 into the 6 hr set

Heard it a lot and don't know what it is.

thanks

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Re: [313] US Tech-house(was uk tech-house)

[Javier Drada]

I have a pretty deep mix of mostly US stuff really deep on the Tech-side 
some of it reminds me of Juans House style when he plays.


Check it out and tell me what you think:

Deep House Session 1.15 (The Other Side of House)
- David Duriez - Gimme A Fresh One - Brique Rouge
- Hesohi - Get This - Viva Recordings
- Souldoubt - Chilldoubt - Viva Recordings
- Fog City Players - Remember - Tilted Records
- Envelope - Be There (For You Main Mix) - Primal Records
- Chris Simmonds - All Souled Out (House Proud Mix) - Viva Recordings
- Morgan Page - Floater - Nordic Trax
- Ben Nevile - Designer Drugs - Nordic Trax
- Chris Lum - The Here, The Now - Tilted Records
- Drivetrain - Paradise Millennium -Soiree Records
- Johnny Fiasco - Alta Vista - Viva Recordings
- JT Donaldson & Chriz Nazuka - Speaking With Sounds - Nordic Trax
- Shawn Ward - Cruiseship - Turbo Recordings

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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] uk tech-house
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 04:31:28 +1100


>i think Terry Francis has a new mix cd out next month.  i guess that'd 
give

>a good indication of the current state of "tech house".


It's actually out now. It's the second in the Fabric series - Fabric 02.
Quite nice.

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Re: [313] adult question

[Paul V]

On Suction records.
Solvent's Label.

Paul V
http://www.technologix.org/ram/beatnik/beatnik29.ram




From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: [313] adult question
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:11:27 +0100

hi,
can anybody tell me on which label
tha solvent rmx af adults "flexidisc"
was released? its a really nice track,,,
ronster


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RE: [313] uk tech-house

[Grammenos, Peter]

Correct. 

Himawari is one of their album at imitating what traditional
house/tech-house sounds like, but snowboarding in argentina [their first
album i believe] is , in my opinion, a better more interesting listen. Nice
blend of dubby-house-ambient. Recommended! Also, 240Volts is an interesting
listen.

-pete


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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:30 PM
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: [313] uk tech-house


Swayzak is two Scottish guys.

>guess >>
>
>Is "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> a uk artist?
>
>I like his stuff on minus (with theorem) a lot, more on a dubby tip..

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