[AFMUG] Door hanger sample

[TJ Trout]

I'm looking to have some door hangers printed specifically for the MDU
environment, could you guys upload a sample of some door hangers that
you've used in the past that worked well if you don't have an mdu one maybe
one for business or residential that worked well for you?

Re: [AFMUG] portable monitors

[Sean Heskett]

iPad  can with an app

On Friday, October 7, 2016, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Are those little portable monitors that run entirely off a USB port
> (including power) any good?  Like for attaching to a headless PC when you
> are onsite?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tips for pulling through existing innerduct

[Chris Fabien]

How long is the run? Is this a 3mm indoor fiber or something tougher
deaigned for outdoor use? I would be nervous about damaging an indoor fiber
trying to pull another past it.

On Oct 7, 2016 6:35 PM, "TJ Trout"  wrote:

> I have a 1-1/4 innerduct with one of my upstream carriers small 3mm fiber
> in it and I would like to pull a single cat5 through as well to reach a
> customer what tips do you guys have to avoid damaging the existing cable ?
>
> I don't have a mule tape installed so I will have to run a fish tape
> through and pull the line or a tape back through. I have several sweeps so
> I was planning to use some Klein canned foam lube into the duct ...
>

Re: [AFMUG] portable monitors

[Ken Hohhof]

This seems to be the best rated one, AOC also makes them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N83G96959

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 6:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] portable monitors

 

Where did you find that? Sounds interesting.

 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Are those little portable monitors that run entirely off a USB port (including 
power) any good?  Like for attaching to a headless PC when you are onsite?

Re: [AFMUG] portable monitors

[Lewis Bergman]

Where did you find that? Sounds interesting.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:18 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Are those little portable monitors that run entirely off a USB port
> (including power) any good?  Like for attaching to a headless PC when you
> are onsite?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tips for pulling through existing innerduct

[chuck]

You can probably use a vacuum tube to suck some jetline in, tie a plastic 
baggie to it.  
If it is short enough it will work well.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 4:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Tips for pulling through existing innerduct

I have a 1-1/4 innerduct with one of my upstream carriers small 3mm fiber in it 
and I would like to pull a single cat5 through as well to reach a customer what 
tips do you guys have to avoid damaging the existing cable ?

I don't have a mule tape installed so I will have to run a fish tape through 
and pull the line or a tape back through. I have several sweeps so I was 
planning to use some Klein canned foam lube into the duct ...

[AFMUG] Tips for pulling through existing innerduct

[TJ Trout]

I have a 1-1/4 innerduct with one of my upstream carriers small 3mm fiber
in it and I would like to pull a single cat5 through as well to reach a
customer what tips do you guys have to avoid damaging the existing cable ?

I don't have a mule tape installed so I will have to run a fish tape
through and pull the line or a tape back through. I have several sweeps so
I was planning to use some Klein canned foam lube into the duct ...

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Paul Stewart]

Yup exactly … unfortunately we only see about 1% traffic on IPv6 to Netflix but 
it’s growing and will grow significantly in the next year with last mile 
changes to happen yet ….




> On Oct 7, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Jesse DuPont  
> wrote:
> 
> Nah, they're both, if the player supports it.
> 
> Jesse DuPont
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net 
> Celerity Networks LLC
> Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com / 
> celeritynetworksllc 
> 
> Like us! facebook.com 
> /celeritybroadband 
> 
> 
> On 10/7/16 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> I believe Netflix videos and stuff are IPv4 only.
>> 
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart > > wrote:
>> Why is that strange?
>> 
>> > On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > Just did a speed test too fast.com  and got 86mbps.  
>> > What I thought was
>> > odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Robert Andrews]

speakeasy.net?

On 10/07/2016 12:58 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

fast.com  10, speedtest.net  250,
dslreports.com/speedtest  220

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Paul Stewart > wrote:

Why is that strange?

 > On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt > wrote:
 >
 > Just did a speed test too fast.com  and got
86mbps.  What I thought was
 > odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Nah, they're both, if the player supports it.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity
  Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
  Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
  

  

On 10/7/16 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


  I believe Netflix videos and stuff are IPv4 only.
  

  

  
  
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Paul
  Stewart 
  wrote:
  Why is
that strange?

  
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt 
wrote:
>
> Just did a speed test too fast.com and got
86mbps.  What I thought was
> odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our
Mikrotik.

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] IOS SSH Client

[Darren Shea]

Thirded - very useful app!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Stump
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IOS SSH Client

 

Seconded.

 

Joshua Stump

Network Admin

  Fourway.NET

800-733-0062

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 3:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IOS SSH Client

 

I like Serverauditor






 

On Oct 6, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Matt  wrote:

 

What is everyone's favorite SSH client for iphone and ipad?

 

Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[Eric Kuhnke]

This is a good reminder for everyone else on the list (not Paul) that
geographic diversity is useful. Two thoughts;

1) Follow best practices of separation of authoritative and recursive DNS.
The IP addresses you hand out to your customers for "NS1" and "NS2" to
resolve things, your recursive resolvers that have an ACL that allow
queries from your netblocks should *not* also be your authoritative DNS
servers. Put your authoritative ns1/ns2 slave/ns3 slave elsewhere.

2) Have geographic diversity in the location of your ns2 and ns3
authoritative slaves for your zone files. Even on a minuscule budget, it
takes a tiny amount of resources to run bind9 for authoritative only, you
can have an ns3 that is a $5/month VM hosted in a state 1500 miles away.
Or we can all mutually swap slave nameservers. If anyone wants NS2 and NS3
slave services for free I have a set of nameservers that are currently
averaging six nines availability over a year.

3) Consider what other things you can have off site for geographic
diversity. If you do your own mail servers, make a second SMTP server (
mail2.domain.com) with appropriate MX records in your DNS, and host it on a
small dedicated machine or VM that is thousands of miles away from you.
Your local mail server in your core POP goes down?  Mail will still arrive
and be queued in a spool if things are set up right.



On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> A BIG thanks to Josh for stepping up real quickly to help keep AFMUG
> online.
>
>
>
> Gotta get that 3rd DNS server OFFSITE !  Too many things on “the list”
>
>
>
> We sustained some damage, but it could have been a LOT worse.  Got blessed
> by a last minute jog to the East keeping the Cat4 winds in the ocean where
> they belong
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 2:18 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> Looks like Paul got his network back online. Lets all hope he has a speedy
> recovery.
>
> But anyway, I don't know exactly when his network/name servers went
> offline, but when I started this thread last night, I was already getting
> NXDOMAIN. And as Eric pointed out, your NS record wasn't added to the zone,
> so that explains why. Your name server was definitely answering... with
> Paul's three NS records, which were all offline, thus brokedid.
>
> I wouldn't have a problem being a secondary for the zone either. My ns1,
> ns2 and ns3 machines share an anycast address. Which would be a little
> tricky to set up. The anycast address would be the NS record, but the zone
> config on the master would need also-notify statements. I know Paul isn't
> running BIND, so not sure if that would work.
>
> But I can't imagine afmug.com being a large zone. We're a Tucows/OpenSRS
> reseller too. And I have many domains using their DNS. And it's the right
> price... free. That might be the easier solution to this problem in the
> future. Or Amazon's DNS since the list is there anyway.
>
> On 10/7/2016 6:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM.  It looks like Paul did forget to
> update the NS RRSet to make my server authoritative (give him a break, he's
> dealing with a hurricane), but as long as I'm answering queries things
> should be fine for the next 9 days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  I
> could always flip the slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet
> myself.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe things won’t
> break?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com as a 3rd nameserver in the whois record for
> afmug.com
>
> It seems to be answering
>
> But the zone file itself was not updated to list ns1.kywimax.com as
> authoritative, so stuff will probably break.
>
>
> dig mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;mail.afmug.com.INA
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> mail.afmug.com.600INA54.210.210.89
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> afmug.com.10800INNSns0.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns1.pdmnet.com.
>
> ;; Query time: 93 msec
> ;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 

[AFMUG] portable monitors

[Ken Hohhof]

Are those little portable monitors that run entirely off a USB port
(including power) any good?  Like for attaching to a headless PC when you
are onsite?

[AFMUG] Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440 for sale

[Yent, Timothy M]

I still have the following items for sale.

1  Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440
1  Allot NetEnforcer Bypass

Tim
Mercury Network Support

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Josh Luthman]

I believe Netflix videos and stuff are IPv4 only.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Why is that strange?
>
> > On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt  wrote:
> >
> > Just did a speed test too fast.com and got 86mbps.  What I thought was
> > odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[TJ Trout]

fast.com 10, speedtest.net 250, dslreports.com/speedtest 220

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Why is that strange?
>
> > On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt  wrote:
> >
> > Just did a speed test too fast.com and got 86mbps.  What I thought was
> > odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Paul Stewart]

Why is that strange?

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt  wrote:
> 
> Just did a speed test too fast.com and got 86mbps.  What I thought was
> odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Josh Luthman]

36 on fast, 98 Speedtest.net


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Matt  wrote:

> Just did a speed test too fast.com and got 86mbps.  What I thought was
> odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Matt]

Just did a speed test too fast.com and got 86mbps.  What I thought was
odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our Mikrotik.

Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[Josh Luthman]

Glad you guys are all OK!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> A BIG thanks to Josh for stepping up real quickly to help keep AFMUG
> online.
>
>
>
> Gotta get that 3rd DNS server OFFSITE !  Too many things on “the list”
>
>
>
> We sustained some damage, but it could have been a LOT worse.  Got blessed
> by a last minute jog to the East keeping the Cat4 winds in the ocean where
> they belong
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 2:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> Looks like Paul got his network back online. Lets all hope he has a speedy
> recovery.
>
> But anyway, I don't know exactly when his network/name servers went
> offline, but when I started this thread last night, I was already getting
> NXDOMAIN. And as Eric pointed out, your NS record wasn't added to the zone,
> so that explains why. Your name server was definitely answering... with
> Paul's three NS records, which were all offline, thus brokedid.
>
> I wouldn't have a problem being a secondary for the zone either. My ns1,
> ns2 and ns3 machines share an anycast address. Which would be a little
> tricky to set up. The anycast address would be the NS record, but the zone
> config on the master would need also-notify statements. I know Paul isn't
> running BIND, so not sure if that would work.
>
> But I can't imagine afmug.com being a large zone. We're a Tucows/OpenSRS
> reseller too. And I have many domains using their DNS. And it's the right
> price... free. That might be the easier solution to this problem in the
> future. Or Amazon's DNS since the list is there anyway.
>
> On 10/7/2016 6:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM.  It looks like Paul did forget to
> update the NS RRSet to make my server authoritative (give him a break, he's
> dealing with a hurricane), but as long as I'm answering queries things
> should be fine for the next 9 days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  I
> could always flip the slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet
> myself.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe things won’t
> break?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com as a 3rd nameserver in the whois record for
> afmug.com
>
> It seems to be answering
>
> But the zone file itself was not updated to list ns1.kywimax.com as
> authoritative, so stuff will probably break.
>
>
> dig mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;mail.afmug.com.INA
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> mail.afmug.com.600INA54.210.210.89
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> afmug.com.10800INNSns0.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns1.pdmnet.com.
>
> ;; Query time: 93 msec
> ;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Looks like Paul's network is offline. Did the secondary DNS for afmug.com
> get set up? Doesn't look like it. I'm still seeing ns, ns0 and
> ns1.pdmnet.net as the name servers. And all three are obviously down. So
> the list is going to break once everyone's DNS caches expire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[Jaime Solorza]

Keep vigilant... Might whip back around... Thank „God you are okay

On Oct 7, 2016 1:39 PM, "Paul McCall"  wrote:

> A BIG thanks to Josh for stepping up real quickly to help keep AFMUG
> online.
>
>
>
> Gotta get that 3rd DNS server OFFSITE !  Too many things on “the list”
>
>
>
> We sustained some damage, but it could have been a LOT worse.  Got blessed
> by a last minute jog to the East keeping the Cat4 winds in the ocean where
> they belong
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 2:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> Looks like Paul got his network back online. Lets all hope he has a speedy
> recovery.
>
> But anyway, I don't know exactly when his network/name servers went
> offline, but when I started this thread last night, I was already getting
> NXDOMAIN. And as Eric pointed out, your NS record wasn't added to the zone,
> so that explains why. Your name server was definitely answering... with
> Paul's three NS records, which were all offline, thus brokedid.
>
> I wouldn't have a problem being a secondary for the zone either. My ns1,
> ns2 and ns3 machines share an anycast address. Which would be a little
> tricky to set up. The anycast address would be the NS record, but the zone
> config on the master would need also-notify statements. I know Paul isn't
> running BIND, so not sure if that would work.
>
> But I can't imagine afmug.com being a large zone. We're a Tucows/OpenSRS
> reseller too. And I have many domains using their DNS. And it's the right
> price... free. That might be the easier solution to this problem in the
> future. Or Amazon's DNS since the list is there anyway.
>
> On 10/7/2016 6:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>
> I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM.  It looks like Paul did forget to
> update the NS RRSet to make my server authoritative (give him a break, he's
> dealing with a hurricane), but as long as I'm answering queries things
> should be fine for the next 9 days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  I
> could always flip the slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet
> myself.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe things won’t
> break?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com as a 3rd nameserver in the whois record for
> afmug.com
>
> It seems to be answering
>
> But the zone file itself was not updated to list ns1.kywimax.com as
> authoritative, so stuff will probably break.
>
>
> dig mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;mail.afmug.com.INA
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> mail.afmug.com.600INA54.210.210.89
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> afmug.com.10800INNSns0.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns1.pdmnet.com.
>
> ;; Query time: 93 msec
> ;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Looks like Paul's network is offline. Did the secondary DNS for afmug.com
> get set up? Doesn't look like it. I'm still seeing ns, ns0 and
> ns1.pdmnet.net as the name servers. And all three are obviously down. So
> the list is going to break once everyone's DNS caches expire.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jason McKemie]

I hated dealing with those damn things when I had them on the network.
HARQ did seem to help, but they just seemed insanely sensitive to
interference. It didn't help that Springnet (now Rise) pretty much raised
the noise floor to an unusable level in every direction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat_request

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:45 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> holy cow, I dont know how the end user performance is right now, but that
> harq=2 made all these bastard CPEs manageable again
> what does harq ack nack mean btw? I havent looked at the 320 ap
> administration guide in a long time, i dont even remember why i opted not
> to manipulate the flows and enable harq at the time, i was probably drunk
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Yup
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 10/7/2016 11:04:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>
>>
>> I will try these things, I do appreciate it, I also set cpe isolation to
>> block cpe destined packets, this should stop some idle traffic between
>> units shouldnt it?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>>> Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their smartgrid
>>> system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.
>>>
>>> They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume they
>>> limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them when some CPE
>>> connected to their BS and the customers called us because they had no
>>> internet access.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> To: "Animal Farm" 
>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>>
>>>
>>> GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>>
 George, is this due to some weird weather by you?



 Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found
 out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the
 top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One
 tower by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.
 It didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower when
 they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the CPE locations and drew
 lines following the stated azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to
 a ComEd facility.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
 /sarcasm
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320



 lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz silent



 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

 Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
 dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz links go
 from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a couple minutes, and
 BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.



 On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
 network, it has hit multiple sites at once.

 I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on
 very limited access points



 good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.



 uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
 utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps 
 throughput



 I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it
 presented like interference, and a change on one AP results in required
 cascade changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually 
 work.



 APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
 mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35



 I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
 seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low



 Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
 the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like



 we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
 thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
 though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others



 any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be 

Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[Paul McCall]

A BIG thanks to Josh for stepping up real quickly to help keep AFMUG online.

Gotta get that 3rd DNS server OFFSITE !  Too many things on “the list”

We sustained some damage, but it could have been a LOT worse.  Got blessed by a 
last minute jog to the East keeping the Cat4 winds in the ocean where they 
belong

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 2:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

Looks like Paul got his network back online. Lets all hope he has a speedy 
recovery.

But anyway, I don't know exactly when his network/name servers went offline, 
but when I started this thread last night, I was already getting NXDOMAIN. And 
as Eric pointed out, your NS record wasn't added to the zone, so that explains 
why. Your name server was definitely answering... with Paul's three NS records, 
which were all offline, thus brokedid.

I wouldn't have a problem being a secondary for the zone either. My ns1, ns2 
and ns3 machines share an anycast address. Which would be a little tricky to 
set up. The anycast address would be the NS record, but the zone config on the 
master would need also-notify statements. I know Paul isn't running BIND, so 
not sure if that would work.

But I can't imagine afmug.com being a large zone. We're a Tucows/OpenSRS 
reseller too. And I have many domains using their DNS. And it's the right 
price... free. That might be the easier solution to this problem in the future. 
Or Amazon's DNS since the list is there anyway.
On 10/7/2016 6:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM.  It looks like Paul 
did forget to update the NS RRSet to make my server authoritative (give him a 
break, he's dealing with a hurricane), but as long as I'm answering queries 
things should be fine for the next 9 days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  
I could always flip the slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet myself.

Josh

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof 
> wrote:
So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe things won’t break?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com as a 3rd nameserver in the 
whois record for afmug.com
It seems to be answering
But the zone file itself was not updated to list 
ns1.kywimax.com as authoritative, so stuff will 
probably break.


dig mail.afmug.com 
@ns1.kywimax.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com 
@ns1.kywimax.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mail.afmug.com.INA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
mail.afmug.com.600INA54.210.210.89

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
afmug.com.10800INNS
ns0.pdmnet.com.
afmug.com.10800INNS
ns.pdmnet.com.
afmug.com.10800INNS
ns1.pdmnet.com.

;; Query time: 93 msec
;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
Looks like Paul's network is offline. Did the secondary DNS for 
afmug.com get set up? Doesn't look like it. I'm still seeing 
ns, ns0 and ns1.pdmnet.net as the name servers. And all 
three are obviously down. So the list is going to break once everyone's DNS 
caches expire.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Chris Wright]

This is the thought process I am going through right now. I just have a hard 
time believing they’d do something so obviously shady.

To sum up my responses to the other replies…

Issue can’t be with customer equipment because I replicated the problem by 
kicking their session and putting their pppoe client in a tech laptop wired 
direct to a core router at the NOC.

Can’t be with DNS nor upstream path because I verified an adjacent IP under the 
same conditions as my test laptop works fine.

I’ll look into this further by torching the connection at my edge to see what 
shenanigans I can detect.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than 
EVERYTHING ELSE

If I were a shady engineer at netflix who got oders from the top that they 
wanted to lower the overall cost of support, I would write a script that 
randomly throttles x percentage of speedtest clients, to offload the support 
request back onto the ISPs, knowing that netflix is now a life saving utility 
to be protected by god, ultimately providers will purchase more bandwidth or 
better pipes closer to netflix handoffs, lowering the corporate overall 
delivery costs. but then again, im kind of a dick

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Paul Stewart 
> wrote:
Or more importantly what DNS you are using vs your customers … that doesn’t 
matter so much with streaming but might (not sure) with 
fast.com speedtest … I’ll have to look into that

On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Andrews 
> wrote:

Your GDNS entry at netflix is throwing you to the wrong server in the wrong 
geographic area?   Did you look at the traceroute to where the test and netflix 
servers are going?

On 10/07/2016 09:15 AM, Chris Wright wrote:

I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, 
yet their
speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they 
claim Netflix
constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix � we�re doing no
such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
(100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere 
else.
Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
fast.com and speedtest.net.

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
Any ideas here?

Chris Wright

Network Administrator




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Chris Wright]

Exactly. My path to Netflix is fine on any another IP in the same advertised 
prefix on the same edge.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 9:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than 
EVERYTHING ELSE

That means your path to Netflix sucks. Join an IX.

Wait, so just their IP is bad? Another IP is good?  Weird...


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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Chris Wright" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15:39 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than
EVERYTHING ELSE
I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their speeds 
are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix constantly 
buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no such thing. For 
giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their pppoe account in a laptop 
at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps 
to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else. Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet 
will do 99mbps at both fast.com and speedtest.net.

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs in the 
same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing feels like 
Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer. Any ideas here?

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

the bad part of a public list is any malicious actor worth their salt would
monitor for having been caught

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Yes they started that already... I copied some captures you lads provided
> as well and sent them to their tech.   Looks like Museum personnel set up
> router and used WISP name as password... Thanks
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 12:17 PM, "Paul Stewart"  wrote:
>
>> Capture and document everything you can about the incident - open
>> investigation with authorities …
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Jaime Solorza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It was WISP owner who contacted me!!!  He is not technical just $$$
>> manhis tech is working on it now but was asking for ideas.   small
>> WISPless than 100 users
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:49 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Call the ISP, explain the situation.  They may help.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:46 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't
>>> posses to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and
>>> calls himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for
>>> milk.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Source: whois.arin.net
 IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
 Name: ESPIRE-8BL
 Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
 Registration Date: 9/24/98
 Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
 Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
 Org Handle: XSPED
 Address:  Winghaven Blvd

 City: O'Fallon
 State/Province: MO
 Postal Code: 63366
 Country: UNITED STATES


 From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
 To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?


 Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what
 can you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
 and this IP address  216.84.91.214?

 Tak

 Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jaime Solorza]

Salud

On Oct 7, 2016 12:45 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> holy cow, I dont know how the end user performance is right now, but that
> harq=2 made all these bastard CPEs manageable again
> what does harq ack nack mean btw? I havent looked at the 320 ap
> administration guide in a long time, i dont even remember why i opted not
> to manipulate the flows and enable harq at the time, i was probably drunk
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Yup
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>> Sent: 10/7/2016 11:04:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>
>>
>> I will try these things, I do appreciate it, I also set cpe isolation to
>> block cpe destined packets, this should stop some idle traffic between
>> units shouldnt it?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>>> Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their smartgrid
>>> system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.
>>>
>>> They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume they
>>> limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them when some CPE
>>> connected to their BS and the customers called us because they had no
>>> internet access.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> To: "Animal Farm" 
>>> Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>>
>>>
>>> GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>>
 George, is this due to some weird weather by you?



 Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found
 out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the
 top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One
 tower by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.
 It didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower when
 they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the CPE locations and drew
 lines following the stated azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to
 a ComEd facility.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
 /sarcasm
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320



 lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz silent



 On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

 Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
 dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz links go
 from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a couple minutes, and
 BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.



 On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
 network, it has hit multiple sites at once.

 I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on
 very limited access points



 good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.



 uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
 utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps 
 throughput



 I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it
 presented like interference, and a change on one AP results in required
 cascade changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually 
 work.



 APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
 mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35



 I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
 seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low



 Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
 the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like



 we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
 thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
 though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others



 any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated





 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of 

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

holy cow, I dont know how the end user performance is right now, but that
harq=2 made all these bastard CPEs manageable again
what does harq ack nack mean btw? I havent looked at the 320 ap
administration guide in a long time, i dont even remember why i opted not
to manipulate the flows and enable harq at the time, i was probably drunk

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Yup
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 10/7/2016 11:04:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>
>
> I will try these things, I do appreciate it, I also set cpe isolation to
> block cpe destined packets, this should stop some idle traffic between
> units shouldnt it?
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their smartgrid
>> system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.
>>
>> They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume they
>> limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them when some CPE
>> connected to their BS and the customers called us because they had no
>> internet access.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>> To: "Animal Farm" 
>> Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>
>>
>> GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>>
>>> George, is this due to some weird weather by you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found out
>>> ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of
>>> the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One tower
>>> by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It
>>> didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower when
>>> they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the CPE locations and drew
>>> lines following the stated azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to
>>> a ComEd facility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
>>> dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz links go
>>> from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a couple minutes, and
>>> BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
>>> network, it has hit multiple sites at once.
>>>
>>> I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on
>>> very limited access points
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
>>> utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps throughput
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it presented
>>> like interference, and a change on one AP results in required cascade
>>> changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
>>> mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
>>> seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
>>> the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
>>> thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
>>> though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the 

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Ben Royer]

Awesome, great feedback guys.  Yeah, Steel toe for sure, and I’m leaning 
towards shank now also.  Like Chuck was saying, work boots can do the job, but 
standing up on a tower for a long time on a rung while your ground crew gets 
their stuff together can be a whole different thing for longevity.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 12:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

It is


On Oct 7, 2016 11:31 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

  I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373


  On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:

My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

  CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and 
looks.


  On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're 
just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex 
lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the 
toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.

I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look 
like they would easily hold up another 4.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

  May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it 
out for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work 
boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty good 
pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower rungs and 
what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a 
new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the best.  I’m considering 
a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel toe, but not 
sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes they started that already... I copied some captures you lads provided
as well and sent them to their tech.   Looks like Museum personnel set up
router and used WISP name as password... Thanks

On Oct 7, 2016 12:17 PM, "Paul Stewart"  wrote:

> Capture and document everything you can about the incident - open
> investigation with authorities …
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> It was WISP owner who contacted me!!!  He is not technical just $$$
> manhis tech is working on it now but was asking for ideas.   small
> WISPless than 100 users
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:49 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Call the ISP, explain the situation.  They may help.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:46 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>>
>> Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't
>> posses to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and
>> calls himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for
>> milk.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Source: whois.arin.net
>>> IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
>>> Name: ESPIRE-8BL
>>> Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
>>> Registration Date: 9/24/98
>>> Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
>>> Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
>>> Org Handle: XSPED
>>> Address:  Winghaven Blvd
>>>
>>> City: O'Fallon
>>> State/Province: MO
>>> Postal Code: 63366
>>> Country: UNITED STATES
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
>>> To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can
>>> you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
>>> and this IP address  216.84.91.214?
>>>
>>> Tak
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Adam Moffett]

Yup

-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 10/7/2016 11:04:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

I will try these things, I do appreciate it, I also set cpe isolation 
to block cpe destined packets, this should stop some idle traffic 
between units shouldnt it?


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  
wrote:
Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their 
smartgrid system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.


They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume 
they limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them 
when some CPE connected to their BS and the customers called us 
because they had no internet access.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320


GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot


On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

George, is this due to some weird weather by you?



Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found 
out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is 
the top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to 
substations.  One tower by me they have 4 sectors and I think each 
AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It didn’t help that they totally messed up 
the lat/lon of their tower when they registered it in ULS.  Once I 
looked at the CPE locations and drew lines following the stated 
azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a ComEd facility.






From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy 
/sarcasm

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320



lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz 
silent




On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:


Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started 
around dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 
11GHz links go from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just 
a couple minutes, and BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.




On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320 
network, it has hit multiple sites at once.


I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs 
on very limited access points




good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.



uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame 
utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps 
throughput




I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it 
presented like interference, and a change on one AP results in 
required cascade changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync 
doesnt actually work.




APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz 
channels mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 
10 to 35




I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am 
not seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low




Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every 
AP on the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum 
looks like




we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 
320 AP thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near 
channel even though they were only in the back lobe, but this is 
far from the others




any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be 
appreciated






--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of 
the team.











--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
team.






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[George Skorup]

Looks like Paul got his network back online. Lets all hope he has a 
speedy recovery.


But anyway, I don't know exactly when his network/name servers went 
offline, but when I started this thread last night, I was already 
getting NXDOMAIN. And as Eric pointed out, your NS record wasn't added 
to the zone, so that explains why. Your name server was definitely 
answering... with Paul's three NS records, which were all offline, thus 
brokedid.


I wouldn't have a problem being a secondary for the zone either. My ns1, 
ns2 and ns3 machines share an anycast address. Which would be a little 
tricky to set up. The anycast address would be the NS record, but the 
zone config on the master would need also-notify statements. I know Paul 
isn't running BIND, so not sure if that would work.


But I can't imagine afmug.com being a large zone. We're a Tucows/OpenSRS 
reseller too. And I have many domains using their DNS. And it's the 
right price... free. That might be the easier solution to this problem 
in the future. Or Amazon's DNS since the list is there anyway.


On 10/7/2016 6:51 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM .  It looks 
like Paul did forget to update the NS RRSet to make my server 
authoritative (give him a break, he's dealing with a hurricane), but 
as long as I'm answering queries things should be fine for the next 9 
days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  I could always flip the 
slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet myself.


Josh

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:


So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe
things won’t break?

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com  DNS

I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com  as a 3rd
nameserver in the whois record for afmug.com 

It seems to be answering

But the zone file itself was not updated to list ns1.kywimax.com
 as authoritative, so stuff will probably
break.


dig mail.afmug.com  @ns1.kywimax.com


; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com
 @ns1.kywimax.com 
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;mail.afmug.com . INA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
mail.afmug.com . 600INA   
54.210.210.89


;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
afmug.com . 10800INNS ns0.pdmnet.com
.
afmug.com . 10800INNS ns.pdmnet.com
.
afmug.com . 10800INNS ns1.pdmnet.com
.

;; Query time: 93 msec
;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup > wrote:

Looks like Paul's network is offline. Did the secondary DNS
for afmug.com  get set up? Doesn't look like
it. I'm still seeing ns, ns0 and ns1.pdmnet.net
 as the name servers. And all three are
obviously down. So the list is going to break once everyone's
DNS caches expire.

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Paul Stewart]

Capture and document everything you can about the incident - open investigation 
with authorities … 


> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> It was WISP owner who contacted me!!!  He is not technical just $$$ 
> manhis tech is working on it now but was asking for ideas.   small 
> WISPless than 100 users
> 
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
> 
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:49 AM, > 
> wrote:
> Call the ISP, explain the situation.  They may help. 
>  
> From: Jaime Solorza <>
> Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:46 AM
> To: Animal Farm <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>  
> Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't posses 
> to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and calls 
> himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for milk.  
>  
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 
>  
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM, > wrote:
> Source: whois.arin.net 
> IP Address: 216.84.91.214  (united states)
> Name: ESPIRE-8BL
> Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
> Registration Date: 9/24/98
> Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
> Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
> Org Handle: XSPED
> Address:  Winghaven Blvd
> 
> City: O'Fallon
> State/Province: MO
> Postal Code: 63366
> Country: UNITED STATES
> 
> 
> From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
> To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
> 
> 
> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can you 
> tell me about his email address? location, etc,
> and this IP address  216.84.91.214 ?
> 
> Tak
> 
> Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 
>  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

Perfect. My boots are so beastly I could kickstart a triceratops.

On Oct 7, 2016 12:57 PM,  wrote:

> My grandad’s dinosaur saddle is in my tack room...
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:56 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing
>
> " ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine
> )...'Yep all those fossils they are now testing for DNA and stuff are
> fake according to a friend of mine.   Says the  anthropologists and
> scientists just trying to refute the bible.Heaven help him!
>
> Anyway, I recommend steel toe boots with shank for tower climbing.   Rock
> climbing shoes are designed for just that, climbing rocks!!  They don't
> protect foot or arches.but I am not your dad or boss, so do what you
> wish.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
>> And after 20-40 years standing on round bars your arches will thank you
>> for not having to bear the load on something that wasn't evolved for
>> that...   ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine
>> )...
>>
>> On 10/07/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>> Exactly
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable
>>> standing on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of
>>> feature options and looks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>>>
>>> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center
>>> because they're just that comfortable despite having
>>> steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex lined, etc.
>>> Awesome, awesome boots.
>>>
>>> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the
>>> leather around the toecap, despite having them for 2
>>> years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.
>>>
>>> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape
>>> they are in look like they would easily hold up
>>> another 4.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> May have been a conversation of the past, but
>>> thought I’d throw it out for discussion.  What
>>> do all you tower climbers out there use for a
>>> work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now
>>> and to me has been a pretty good pair of boots.
>>> Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
>>> tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had
>>> this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a
>>> new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to
>>> what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel shank,
>>> steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel
>>> toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say
>>> you, group?
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>>> 217-965-3699  www.royell.net
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Jaime Solorza]

It was WISP owner who contacted me!!!  He is not technical just $$$
manhis tech is working on it now but was asking for ideas.   small
WISPless than 100 users

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:49 AM,  wrote:

> Call the ISP, explain the situation.  They may help.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>
> Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't
> posses to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and
> calls himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for
> milk.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Source: whois.arin.net
>> IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
>> Name: ESPIRE-8BL
>> Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
>> Registration Date: 9/24/98
>> Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
>> Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
>> Org Handle: XSPED
>> Address:  Winghaven Blvd
>>
>> City: O'Fallon
>> State/Province: MO
>> Postal Code: 63366
>> Country: UNITED STATES
>>
>>
>> From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
>> To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>>
>>
>> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can
>> you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
>> and this IP address  216.84.91.214?
>>
>> Tak
>>
>> Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[chuck]

My grandad’s dinosaur saddle is in my tack room...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:56 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

" ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine )...'
Yep all those fossils they are now testing for DNA and stuff are fake according 
to a friend of mine.   Says the  anthropologists and scientists just trying to 
refute the bible.Heaven help him!



Anyway, I recommend steel toe boots with shank for tower climbing.   Rock 
climbing shoes are designed for just that, climbing rocks!!  They don't protect 
foot or arches.but I am not your dad or boss, so do what you wish.

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:

  And after 20-40 years standing on round bars your arches will thank you for 
not having to bear the load on something that wasn't evolved for that...   ( 
unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine )...

  On 10/07/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Exactly


On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak" > wrote:

I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable
standing on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman
>
wrote:

I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen" > wrote:

My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of
feature options and looks.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"
> wrote:

Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

Love them, wearing them right now in the data center
because they're just that comfortable despite having
steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex lined, etc.
Awesome, awesome boots.

No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the
leather around the toecap, despite having them for 2
years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.

I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape
they are in look like they would easily hold up
another 4.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"
> wrote:

May have been a conversation of the past, but
thought I’d throw it out for discussion.  What
do all you tower climbers out there use for a
work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now
and to me has been a pretty good pair of boots.
Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had
this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a
new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to
what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel shank,
steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel
toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say
you, group?
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699  www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Jaime Solorza]

" ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine )...'
 Yep all those fossils they are now testing for DNA and stuff are fake
according to a friend of mine.   Says the  anthropologists and scientists
just trying to refute the bible.Heaven help him!

Anyway, I recommend steel toe boots with shank for tower climbing.   Rock
climbing shoes are designed for just that, climbing rocks!!  They don't
protect foot or arches.but I am not your dad or boss, so do what you
wish.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> And after 20-40 years standing on round bars your arches will thank you
> for not having to bear the load on something that wasn't evolved for
> that...   ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly fine
> )...
>
> On 10/07/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>> Exactly
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak" > > wrote:
>>
>> I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable
>> standing on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen" > > wrote:
>>
>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds
>> > wrote:
>>
>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of
>> feature options and looks.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>>
>> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center
>> because they're just that comfortable despite having
>> steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex lined, etc.
>> Awesome, awesome boots.
>>
>> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the
>> leather around the toecap, despite having them for 2
>> years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.
>>
>> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape
>> they are in look like they would easily hold up
>> another 4.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> May have been a conversation of the past, but
>> thought I’d throw it out for discussion.  What
>> do all you tower climbers out there use for a
>> work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now
>> and to me has been a pretty good pair of boots.
>> Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
>> tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had
>> this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a
>> new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to
>> what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel shank,
>> steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel
>> toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say
>> you, group?
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699  www.royell.net
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Robert Andrews]

It's part of Mexus Communications in El Paso, who has pictures of old 
canopy gear on their web page...   Maybe on this list or WISPA?


On 10/07/2016 10:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list.
what can you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
and this IP address  216.84.91.214?

Tak
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[chuck]

Call the ISP, explain the situation.  They may help.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:46 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't posses to 
dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and calls himself 
LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for milk.   

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:

  Source: whois.arin.net
  IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
  Name: ESPIRE-8BL
  Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
  Registration Date: 9/24/98
  Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
  Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
  Org Handle: XSPED
  Address:  Winghaven Blvd

  City: O'Fallon
  State/Province: MO
  Postal Code: 63366
  Country: UNITED STATES


  From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
  To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email? 


  Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can you 
tell me about his email address? location, etc,
  and this IP address  216.84.91.214?

  Tak

  Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Robert Andrews]

And after 20-40 years standing on round bars your arches will thank you 
for not having to bear the load on something that wasn't evolved for 
that...   ( unless you don't believe in evolution, then it's perfectly 
fine )...


On 10/07/2016 10:32 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Exactly


On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak" > wrote:

I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable
standing on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman
>
wrote:

I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen" > wrote:

My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds
> wrote:

CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of
feature options and looks.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"
> wrote:

Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

Love them, wearing them right now in the data center
because they're just that comfortable despite having
steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex lined, etc.
Awesome, awesome boots.

No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the
leather around the toecap, despite having them for 2
years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.

I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape
they are in look like they would easily hold up
another 4.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"
> wrote:

May have been a conversation of the past, but
thought I’d throw it out for discussion.  What
do all you tower climbers out there use for a
work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now
and to me has been a pretty good pair of boots.
Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had
this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a
new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to
what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel shank,
steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel
toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say
you, group?
Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699  www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Joe Novak]

Email abuse. I bet they will dig deeper.

On Oct 7, 2016 12:46 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't
> posses to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and
> calls himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for
> milk.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Source: whois.arin.net
>> IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
>> Name: ESPIRE-8BL
>> Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
>> Registration Date: 9/24/98
>> Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
>> Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
>> Org Handle: XSPED
>> Address:  Winghaven Blvd
>>
>> City: O'Fallon
>> State/Province: MO
>> Postal Code: 63366
>> Country: UNITED STATES
>>
>>
>> From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
>> To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>>
>>
>> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can
>> you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
>> and this IP address  216.84.91.214?
>>
>> Tak
>>
>> Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Jaime Solorza]

Thanks guys, I had done that but some of you guys have skills I don't
posses to dig deeper.   He broke into a router at War Eagles Museum and
calls himself LeLeche.Le is used incorrectly and leche is Spanish for
milk.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:40 AM,  wrote:

> Source: whois.arin.net
> IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
> Name: ESPIRE-8BL
> Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
> Registration Date: 9/24/98
> Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
> Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
> Org Handle: XSPED
> Address:  Winghaven Blvd
>
> City: O'Fallon
> State/Province: MO
> Postal Code: 63366
> Country: UNITED STATES
>
>
> From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
> To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?
>
>
> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. what can
> you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
> and this IP address  216.84.91.214?
>
> Tak
>
> Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[chuck]

Source: whois.arin.net
IP Address: 216.84.91.214 (united states)
Name: ESPIRE-8BL
Handle: NET-216-84-0-0-1
Registration Date: 9/24/98
Range: 216.84.0.0-216.85.255.255
Org: Xspedius Communications Co.
Org Handle: XSPED
Address:  Winghaven Blvd

City: O'Fallon
State/Province: MO
Postal Code: 63366
Country: UNITED STATES


From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:37 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?


Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list. 
what can you tell me about his email address? location, etc,

and this IP address  216.84.91.214?

Tak

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Joe Novak]

The following results may also be obtained via:

https://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=216.84.91.214?showDetails=true=false=false=netref2


NetRange:   216.84.0.0 - 216.85.255.255
CIDR:   216.84.0.0/15
NetName:ESPIRE-8BL
NetHandle:  NET-216-84-0-0-1
Parent: NET216 (NET-216-0-0-0-0)
NetType:Direct Allocation
OriginAS:
Organization:   Xspedius Communications Co. (XSPED)
RegDate:1998-09-24
Updated:2012-03-02
Ref:https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-216-84-0-0-1


OrgName:Xspedius Communications Co.
OrgId:  XSPED
Address: Winghaven Blvd
City:   O'Fallon
StateProv:  MO
PostalCode: 63366
Country:US
RegDate:2003-10-21
Updated:2013-10-17
Ref:https://whois.arin.net/rest/org/XSPED

ReferralServer:  rwhois://rwhois.twtelecom.net:4321

OrgAbuseHandle: TWTAD-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   tw telecom Abuse Desk
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-800-898-6473
OrgAbuseEmail:  ab...@twtelecom.net
OrgAbuseRef:https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/TWTAD-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: ZI80-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Time Warner IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone:  +1-800-829-0420
OrgTechEmail:  ipmana...@twtelecom.net
OrgTechRef:https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZI80-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: TDN1-ARIN
OrgNOCName:   TWTC Data NOC
OrgNOCPhone:  +1-800-898-6473
OrgNOCEmail:  supp...@twtelecom.net
OrgNOCRef:https://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/TDN1-ARIN

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list.
> what can you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
> and this IP address  216.84.91.214?
>
> Tak
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>

[AFMUG] What can you tell me about this email?

[Jaime Solorza]

Okay, I need help from the smart email /hacking gurus  on list.
what can you tell me about his email address? location, etc,
and this IP address  216.84.91.214?

Tak
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[chuck]

I used to spend a good part of my day on steps driven into wooden telephone 
poles.
I tried it when I first got hired with normal work boots, it killed me.  
Steel shanks made it possible to continue to work there.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

Exactly


On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak"  wrote:

  I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable standing 
on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.

  On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:

  My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

  On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds  
wrote:

CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and 
looks.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

  Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

  Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're 
just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex 
lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

  No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the 
toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.

  I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look 
like they would easily hold up another 4.


  On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it 
out for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work 
boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty good 
pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower rungs and 
what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a 
new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the best.  I’m considering 
a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel toe, but not 
sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

Exactly

On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Joe Novak"  wrote:

> I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable
> standing on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:
>>
>>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
 looks.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>
> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
> just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, 
> goretex
> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>
> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
> mountains.
>
> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
> like they would easily hold up another 4.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>
>> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it
>> out for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a
>> work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a
>> pretty good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
>> tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and
>> am looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s 
>> the
>> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
>> are
>> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>>
>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

No ankle protection, no footbed protection, not waterproof, no goretex..

No way I would climb icy towers like that in the winter. Summer? Maybe, but
my boots are so nice I'd rather just wear them every day *shrug*

On Oct 7, 2016 11:37 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Chinooks from Gander mountain is what I am using now.Tennis shoes are
> not good for serious tower workif they stay on for long time they will
> feel it for sure.No protection for toes, soles or ankles... That's a
> Bozo No No in my book.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:
>>
>>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
 looks.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>
> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
> just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, 
> goretex
> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>
> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
> mountains.
>
> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
> like they would easily hold up another 4.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>
>> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it
>> out for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a
>> work boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a
>> pretty good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on
>> tower rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and
>> am looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s 
>> the
>> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
>> are
>> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>>
>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

It is

On Oct 7, 2016 11:31 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:
>
>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>>> looks.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
 Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

 Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
 just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
 lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

 No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
 toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
 mountains.

 I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
 like they would easily hold up another 4.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
> are
> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

If I were a shady engineer at netflix who got oders from the top that they
wanted to lower the overall cost of support, I would write a script that
randomly throttles x percentage of speedtest clients, to offload the
support request back onto the ISPs, knowing that netflix is now a life
saving utility to be protected by god, ultimately providers will purchase
more bandwidth or better pipes closer to netflix handoffs, lowering the
corporate overall delivery costs. but then again, im kind of a dick

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

> Or more importantly what DNS you are using vs your customers … that
> doesn’t matter so much with streaming but might (not sure) with fast.com 
> speedtest
> … I’ll have to look into that
>
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>
> Your GDNS entry at netflix is throwing you to the wrong server in the
> wrong geographic area?   Did you look at the traceroute to where the test
> and netflix servers are going?
>
> On 10/07/2016 09:15 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
>
> I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
> speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
> constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix � we�re doing no
> such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
> pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
> (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
> Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
> fast.com and speedtest.net.
>
> I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
> in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
> feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
> Any ideas here?
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Paul Stewart]

Or more importantly what DNS you are using vs your customers … that doesn’t 
matter so much with streaming but might (not sure) with fast.com 
 speedtest … I’ll have to look into that

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> Your GDNS entry at netflix is throwing you to the wrong server in the wrong 
> geographic area?   Did you look at the traceroute to where the test and 
> netflix servers are going?
> 
> On 10/07/2016 09:15 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
>> I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
>> speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
>> constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix � we�re doing no
>> such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
>> pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
>> (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
>> Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
>> fast.com and speedtest.net.
>> 
>> I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
>> in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
>> feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
>> Any ideas here?
>> 
>> Chris Wright
>> 
>> Network Administrator
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[Wireless Administrator]

Paul,

We're ok here in Lake Placid.  Let me know if you need help.

 

Steven Bastardi

President

The Home Town Network Inc

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 2:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

 

We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to
probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast area,
and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts the
cost and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable.  We
have done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before it
hits.

 

We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it's very hard and
stressful.

 

We appreciate the thoughts and prayers

 

Paul

 

Paul McCall, President

PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800  

pa...@pdmnet.net

www.pdmnet.com

www.floridabroadband.com

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Im monkey footed, I had steel toe rigid sole with a heel boots for a wile,
only think i liked was you could lok the heel on the bars. At the end of
the day my legs and ankles killed me. In a factory I worked in i ran a
multi ton cart over my foot, the only reason i still have that foot is
cause i didnt have steel toes, osha be damned, I will avoid those fuckers
at all cost when I can. If I still climbed regular, i would probably look
for rock climbing shoes, those would be the bees knees for tower work

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I wear Danner boots.  They are decent boots, in the $100 range.  They're
> no lineman's boots, but they still hold up fairly well.  I replace them
> every year or two.
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Eric Muehleisen 
> wrote:
>
>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>>> looks.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
 Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

 Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
 just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
 lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

 No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
 toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
 mountains.

 I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
 like they would easily hold up another 4.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
> are
> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Paul Stewart]

I’ve heard that too .. not a fan of dumb TV’s .. err I mean start TV’s… they 
ain’t so smart often …

I do see fast.com  typically a bit slower than speedtest.net 
 - this is fairly accurate finding in my opinion as both 
are served on-net in our case so takes the network itself out of equation ….

Just did a speedtest from home at got about 25Mb/s on fast.com 
 and got 32Mb/s on speedtest.net  for 
example


> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> 
> We had a customer with a smart TV.. (Samsung) that was having tons of 
> problems with Netflix...  Had them put in a USB ( chromecast?) dongle to 
> access it, problem gone...   A lot of smart TV's aren't...
> 
> On 10/07/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> Can you torch the traffic to the 2 different IPs and see if anything is
>> different?  Same number of TCP connections and coming from the same
>> place?  Is there something different in your rDNS that could be
>> confusing Netflix to think they should send from a server halfway around
>> the world or something?
>> 
>> It is also rare for Netflix to rebuffer these days, since they are
>> pretty good about switching stream rates on the fly.  Well, depending on
>> the streaming device.  I hate these “smart” TVs, who knows if the app
>> has been updated.  Also home WiFi can be an issue.  I’ve had customers
>> complain about Netflix rebuffering on their WiFi connected smart TV or
>> even not even being able to load the app, yet I plug my laptop into
>> their router and stream Netflix flawlessly.  Then they start with “it
>> doesn’t happen all the time”, in other words it’s only working because
>> you’re here.
>> 
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:44 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower
>> than EVERYTHING ELSE
>> 
>> That means your path to Netflix sucks. Join an IX.
>> 
>> Wait, so just their IP is bad? Another IP is good?  Weird...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From: *"Chris Wright" >
>> *To: *af@afmug.com 
>> *Sent: *Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15:39 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower
>> thanEVERYTHING ELSE
>> 
>> I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
>> speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
>> constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no
>> such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
>> pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
>> (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
>> Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
>> fast.com and speedtest.net.
>> 
>> I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
>> in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
>> feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
>> Any ideas here?
>> 
>> Chris Wright
>> 
>> Network Administrator
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[chuck]

Oh, that would hurt...
Gotta have steel shank.  

From: Eric Muehleisen 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 10:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

  CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and looks.


  On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're just 
that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex lined, 
etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the 
toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and mountains.

I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look like 
they would easily hold up another 4.


On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

  May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out 
for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work boot?  
I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty good pair of 
boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower rungs and what not.  
However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a new pair, 
but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel 
shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel toe, but not sure if 
it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

  Thank you,
  Ben Royer, Operations Manager
  Royell Communications, Inc.
  217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs

[Dave Thomas]

We've almost completed a full integration with Saisei. We've got a few 
WISPs using them and have been working with the Saisei team to finish 
the integration project before the show next week.



Not sure will have it done. But we will have a demo to show at the event.


Dave Thomas - Director of Client Relations, Visp,net | WISP Billing and 
Automation | 301 NE 6th Street, Grants Pass, OR 97526 Direct 
541-955-6905 / Skype: dave.thomasvisp | Office: 541-955-6900 | cell: 
541-219-7880

On 10/6/2016 11:43 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
We are using Saisei right now. Very similar to Procera but hardware 
cost is much less because you just purchase a beefy Dell server. 
Overall cost is less than Procera, especially upfront.


We've been very happy with their support team as well with any questions.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Cameron Crum > wrote:


Seisei will be at the show.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Erich Kaiser
>
wrote:

Anybody used these guys I know they have gone to a few shows.

http://saisei.com/




Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com 
Office: 630-621-4804 
Cell: 630-777-9291 


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Simon Westlake
> wrote:

You've discovered my secret identity

On 10/6/2016 12:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


Wait, is this you?

https://simonscat.com/

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Simon Westlake
*Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 12:37 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs

I try to spend at least 30 minutes a day on mailing lists
to maintain some illusion of human contact. I found
myself ranting at the bus stop about Android vs iPhones
the other day, so thought I'd better start talking to
some humans rather than my cat..

On 10/6/2016 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

LOL. I'll consider a demo, but I'll pester their
support staff about config.
I'd rather you spend your time on Sonar.  What are
you doing chatting on this mailing list anyway?  Get
back to work man!

-- Original Message --

From: "Simon Westlake" >

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 10/6/2016 12:59:08 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs

You can do a lot with a Procera to deal with
stuff like that, some solutions are more complex
than others, but you get a ton of tools. They'll
send you an eval unit for 30 days to try out, so
it's pretty easy to see if it works for you. Let
me know if you want to give one a shot and I can
set it up for you.

On 10/6/2016 11:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Well, there's a method to DMCA complaints. 
It's more about people who's monthly usage

exceeds 600GB.

-- Original Message --

From: "Simon Westlake" >

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: 10/6/2016 12:54:59 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Procera costs

To a degree, yeah. They have a lot of
'magic' in there, like linking together
initial non-HTTPS lookups to trackers,
and then tying them to subsequent HTTPS
connections. The biggest problem with
torrenters is that some portion of them
are smart enough to use a VPN, which
leaves you with little recourse. But
you're probably not getting any DMCA
complaints about them anyway..

On 10/6/2016 11:52 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

That's good to know.

Can it reliably tag and limit torrent
traffic?

I've been looking at methods to do
that in Mikrotik and a lot of the
mangle rule examples I see 

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[chuck]

Yes, I sacrificed some cloves of garlic to the flying spaghetti monster in 
Paul’s name.  Must have done the trick.  

From: Gino Villarini 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 7:56 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

thanks for the spagetthi monster! 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:41 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


  Initial reports from Paul are good - per his post on facebook, "I should have 
a better feel for damages by EOD, but so far it looks like we are very 
fortunate"


- Original Message - 
From: Super WISP 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

Praying for the best Paul.  Hang in there buddy.



Mark Chamerlik

Strategic Account Manager-East Coast



630-818-1004 OFFICE

815-822-4490 CELL

ma...@wavonline.com

www.wavonline.com



For additional assistance: email tea...@wavonline.com



NEW: 2016 IMPROVEMENTS TO WAV’S BUSINESS MANAGEMENT 

 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!



FPL is estimating close to 2 million people will lose power in this event.  
Trying to stay positive, but this looks nasty.   Definitely will be worse than 
the 2 that hit us directly in 2004.  



We are riding it out in a CBS house with good roof with my mother and 
sisters, about 10 miles inland.  We are in a metal building, so I am going to 
shut things down here soon and take the servers and critical machines with me.



Paul



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!



TV news says now Category 4, still predicted to hit West Palm first and 
parallel the “space coast”, predicting Georgia won’t get the 140 mph winds but 
will see storm surge.  Gov. Scott saying unequivocally evacuate now, also the 
east coast of FL will, not may, lose power.





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!



no, 



more like starting Today late evening... and continuing along the coast 
tomorrow and the day after. 



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net






  From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:12:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!



  Still looking at Friday morning for impact?

- Original Message -

From: Larry Smith

To: af@afmug.com

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:30 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!


Prayers enroute

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed October 5 2016 16:48, Wireless Administrator wrote:
> If we make it through the storm and you need help.  We will provide
> assistance.
>
>
>
> Steven Bastardi
>
> President
>
> The Home Town Network Inc
>
> Lake Placid, Fl
>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 2:59 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to
> probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast 
area,
> and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts 
the
> cost and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable. 
 We
> have done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before 
it
> hits.
>
>
>
> We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it's very hard and
> stressful.
>
>
>
> We appreciate the thoughts and prayers
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> 

Re: [AFMUG] FW: Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Robert Andrews]

We had a customer with a smart TV.. (Samsung) that was having tons of 
problems with Netflix...  Had them put in a USB ( chromecast?) dongle to 
access it, problem gone...   A lot of smart TV's aren't...


On 10/07/2016 10:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Can you torch the traffic to the 2 different IPs and see if anything is
different?  Same number of TCP connections and coming from the same
place?  Is there something different in your rDNS that could be
confusing Netflix to think they should send from a server halfway around
the world or something?

It is also rare for Netflix to rebuffer these days, since they are
pretty good about switching stream rates on the fly.  Well, depending on
the streaming device.  I hate these “smart” TVs, who knows if the app
has been updated.  Also home WiFi can be an issue.  I’ve had customers
complain about Netflix rebuffering on their WiFi connected smart TV or
even not even being able to load the app, yet I plug my laptop into
their router and stream Netflix flawlessly.  Then they start with “it
doesn’t happen all the time”, in other words it’s only working because
you’re here.

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2016 11:44 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower
than EVERYTHING ELSE

That means your path to Netflix sucks. Join an IX.

Wait, so just their IP is bad? Another IP is good?  Weird...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







*From: *"Chris Wright" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15:39 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower
thanEVERYTHING ELSE

I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no
such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
(100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
fast.com and speedtest.net.

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
Any ideas here?

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

[AFMUG] FW: Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Ken Hohhof]

Can you torch the traffic to the 2 different IPs and see if anything is 
different?  Same number of TCP connections and coming from the same place?  Is 
there something different in your rDNS that could be confusing Netflix to think 
they should send from a server halfway around the world or something?

 

It is also rare for Netflix to rebuffer these days, since they are pretty good 
about switching stream rates on the fly.  Well, depending on the streaming 
device.  I hate these “smart” TVs, who knows if the app has been updated.  Also 
home WiFi can be an issue.  I’ve had customers complain about Netflix 
rebuffering on their WiFi connected smart TV or even not even being able to 
load the app, yet I plug my laptop into their router and stream Netflix 
flawlessly.  Then they start with “it doesn’t happen all the time”, in other 
words it’s only working because you’re here.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than 
EVERYTHING ELSE

 

That means your path to Netflix sucks. Join an IX.

Wait, so just their IP is bad? Another IP is good?  Weird...



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Chris Wright"  >
To: af@afmug.com  
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15:39 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than
EVERYTHING ELSE

I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their speeds 
are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix constantly 
buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no such thing. For 
giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their pppoe account in a laptop 
at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps 
to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else. Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet 
will do 99mbps at both fast.com and speedtest.net. 

 

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs in the 
same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing feels like 
Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer. Any ideas here?

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Robert Andrews]

Your GDNS entry at netflix is throwing you to the wrong server in the 
wrong geographic area?   Did you look at the traceroute to where the 
test and netflix servers are going?


On 10/07/2016 09:15 AM, Chris Wright wrote:

I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix � we�re doing no
such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their
pppoe account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
(100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both
fast.com and speedtest.net.

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs
in the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing
feels like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer.
Any ideas here?

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

Re: [AFMUG] Bell Canada deregulating in areas

[Casey | WISPA]

We've got a bunch of these GSI watchdogs around. I stick a mikrotik hAP lite in 
and forward ports through it. Port 80 is all I allow and they never have any 
problems getting in. I setup a dns entry like lname.airlink123.com and the 
farmers get along just fine with it. Never any issues with security. Yet. 

Casey

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 6:28 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Lol... yeah that happens sometimes too but we are very persistent on that 
> kind of stuff ;)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>> 
>> "Sorry, LEC says no ports available."
>> 
>>> On 10/6/2016 8:22 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>>> Big decision for us Canadians today who utilize wholesale access networks a 
>>> lot … (besides our own infrastructure)
>>> 
 http://www.bnn.ca/crtc-slashes-wholesale-fees-charged-by-incumbent-isps-in-bid-to-stay-competitive-1.580977
>>> 
>>> Great news!
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
 
 This is definately having impact on third party providers (TPIA as 
 referenced).. 
 
 Bell has been told that they must provide mandated access to these fiber 
 networks as part of a ruling fairly recently … along with the access being 
 opened up, there are separate hearings on disaggregation of wholesale 
 access as well (which has significant pros/cons all in one)
 
 Forborne basically means no tariffs if I understand correctly … I’m 
 obviously not a telecom lawyer or pretend to be one :)  It doesn’t mean 
 that they won’t provide wholesale access to those facilities and one might 
 argue that it doesn’t mean they will neither … 
 
 There’s a number of different proceedings around this ongoing - I find it 
 hard to follow all of them but if you know the CRTC file number happy to 
 provide some additional insight/opinion
 
 Paul
 
 
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are requesting 
> to be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth.  This would be 
> equivalent to you going to the FCC and saying "your rules don't apply to 
> us and I want you to recognize that in these particular areas". Is my 
> understanding correct?
> 
> Sounds like:
> A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas.  
> B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people from 
> using their lines. 
> C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services?
> 
> Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated their 
> dsl lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc could no 
> longer provide service and lost a bunch of customers.  I don't know what 
> the outcome was but there was no rule yet in place that they had to share 
> their fiber lines too.  So it was a grey area.  I wonder if they are 
> trying to exempt themselves from a whole slew of things in certain areas. 
>  
> 
> Anyway 
> 
> Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar?  
> 
> Have any of you used this before? 
> 
> Their notice was pretty vague.  I'm going to see if I can find the 
> filing.  
> 
> --
> Keeping you informed.
>   
>   
> As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications 
> Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and conditions of the local 
> services that Bell provides you. This limits our flexibility to provide 
> you the types of competitive offers we’d like. That may all change in 
> your area in the coming months.
> 
> On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have certain 
> local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is approved, 
> local telecommunication services Bell offers you will be forborne or 
> deregulated by the CRTC. You will continue to receive the quality 
> services you have come to expect from Bell, under our Terms of Service, 
> which were previously provided to you. You will find a copy at 
> www.bell.ca/terms. The Terms of Service will apply to your newly 
> unregulated local services from the date the CRTC issues an order 
> approving the forbearance application for your local exchange area.
> 
> What does this mean for you?
> 
>   •   We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and 
> propose more innovative services.
>   •   We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms 
> of Service.
>   •   As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the 
> application for forbearance is approved.
 
>>> 
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Mike Hammett]

That means your path to Netflix sucks. Join an IX. 

Wait, so just their IP is bad? Another IP is good? Weird... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Chris Wright"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 11:15:39 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING 
ELSE 



I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their speeds 
are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix constantly 
buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no such thing. For 
giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their pppoe account in a laptop 
at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps 
to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else. Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet 
will do 99mbps at both fast.com and speedtest.net. 

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs in the 
same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing feels like 
Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer. Any ideas here? 

Chris Wright 
Network Administrator 

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Jeremy]

I saw the same issue the first few times I tested on fast.com.  I am
testing at 45Mbps there right now though.  The first time I tried it was
2Mbps on a 60Mbps connection.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Chris Wright  wrote:

> I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their
> speeds are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix
> constantly buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix – we’re doing no
> such thing. For giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their pppoe
> account in a laptop at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high
> (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else.
> Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet will do 99mbps at both fast.com
> and speedtest.net.
>
>
>
> I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs in
> the same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing feels
> like Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer. Any ideas
> here?
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Jeremy]

I wear Danner boots.  They are decent boots, in the $100 range.  They're no
lineman's boots, but they still hold up fairly well.  I replace them every
year or two.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>> looks.
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>>>
>>> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
>>> just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
>>> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>>>
>>> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
>>> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
>>> mountains.
>>>
>>> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
>>> like they would easily hold up another 4.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>>>
 May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
 for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
 boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
 good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
 rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
 looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
 best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are
 only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

 Thank you,
 Ben Royer, Operations Manager
 Royell Communications, Inc.
 217-965-3699 www.royell.net

>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Joe Novak]

I always liked the steel shank myself. It made it more comfortable standing
on ladders and towers for longer periods of time.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:
>
>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>>> looks.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
 Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

 Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
 just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
 lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

 No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
 toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
 mountains.

 I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
 like they would easily hold up another 4.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
> are
> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Jaime Solorza]

Chinooks from Gander mountain is what I am using now.Tennis shoes are
not good for serious tower workif they stay on for long time they will
feel it for sure.No protection for toes, soles or ankles... That's a
Bozo No No in my book.

On Oct 7, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:
>
>> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>>> looks.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
 Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

 Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
 just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
 lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

 No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
 toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
 mountains.

 I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
 like they would easily hold up another 4.

 On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents 
> are
> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

>>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Luthman]

I believe steel toe is an OSHA requirement.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 7, 2016 12:30 PM, "Eric Muehleisen"  wrote:

> My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
>> looks.
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>>> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>>>
>>> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're
>>> just that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
>>> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>>>
>>> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
>>> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
>>> mountains.
>>>
>>> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
>>> like they would easily hold up another 4.
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>>>
 May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
 for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
 boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
 good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
 rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
 looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
 best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are
 only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

 Thank you,
 Ben Royer, Operations Manager
 Royell Communications, Inc.
 217-965-3699 www.royell.net

>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Eric Muehleisen]

My guys prefer tennis shoes. More grip and flexibility.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
> looks.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>>
>> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're just
>> that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
>> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>>
>> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
>> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
>> mountains.
>>
>> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look
>> like they would easily hold up another 4.
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>>
>>> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
>>> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
>>> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
>>> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
>>> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
>>> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
>>> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are
>>> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

CA9528 is the model I have, but they have a ton of feature options and
looks.

On Oct 7, 2016 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>
> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're just
> that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>
> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
> mountains.
>
> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look like
> they would easily hold up another 4.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>
>> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
>> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
>> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
>> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
>> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
>> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
>> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are
>> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

the best i ever had was an 11 dollar pair of brown loafers from walmart,
was like being barefoot on the tower without the galvanize splinters
shredding your foot

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.
>
> Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're just
> that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
> lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.
>
> No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
> toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
> mountains.
>
> I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look like
> they would easily hold up another 4.
>
> On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:
>
>> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out
>> for discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work
>> boot?  I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty
>> good pair of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower
>> rungs and what not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am
>> looking to buy a new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the
>> best.  I’m considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are
>> only steel toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Josh Reynolds]

Carolina Logger / Lineman boots.

Love them, wearing them right now in the data center because they're just
that comfortable despite having steel toe / shank. Waterproof, goretex
lined, etc. Awesome, awesome boots.

No real sign of wear other than some scuffs on the leather around the
toecap, despite having them for 2 years in Alaska climbing towers and
mountains.

I've had them going on 4 years now, and in the shape they are in look like
they would easily hold up another 4.

On Oct 7, 2016 11:14 AM, "Ben Royer"  wrote:

> May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out for
> discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work boot?
> I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty good pair
> of boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower rungs and what
> not.  However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a
> new pair, but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the best.  I’m
> considering a steel shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel
> toe, but not sure if it’s worth it.  What say you, group?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>

Re: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik

[Chris Wright]

This x100. Plus most small to medium sized WISPs need to worry more about their 
upstream getting saturated by a DDoS than their routers being able to handle 
the bandwidth once it gets to them.

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 7:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik

Sure you can ☺  configuration is key.


Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
MikroTik Certified 
Trainer/Consultant
 – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE

For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net
Radio Frequiency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com
Office: 314-735-0270
E-Mail: dmburg...@linktechs.net

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik

Can you survive a DDOS with these?  My past experience is that is a NO, LOL, 
thats why I was asking about x86.  Thinking we may give them 10G uplink and 
then they can do 1G to their transport, so they can limit their networks for 
DDOS protection.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
> wrote:
Not as far as I know. Look at routerboard.com at Interfaces. There is only a 
SFP 1G Copper Interface.
The direct link cables look to thick and cheap for fiber. Maybe this is copper.


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag 
von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2016 15:23
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik


They make SFP+ with copper don't they?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 6, 2016 9:21 AM, "Steve" 
> wrote:
We are using several CCR1036-8G-2S+ units and they are awesome.

The day is coming though eventually when we will need something with a few more 
SFP+ ports but by then hopefully there will be something new.  There is an 8 
port SPF+ router but we also need some with Ethernet cables as well.

Also 10GbE ports would be nice too.

- Original Message -
From: "Stefan Englhardt" >
To: "af" >
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:01:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik

We are happy with CCR1036-8G-2S+EM. In a redundant scenario you could connect 2 
with a 10G SFP+ direct attach cable and there is one 10G Port left. Lot of 
power for VPLS concentrator or PPPOE Server.

We use 2 of them for BGP Uplink. Another concentrates VPLS Tunnels and does 
PPPOE.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag 
von Erich Kaiser
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2016 02:26
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] suggestions for WISP headend Mikrotik



I have a couple guys wanting to put headend routers in our colo at Cermak, just 
wondering what guys are using in relation to hardware for Mikrotik? Several 1G 
ports with option for 10G.  I know they can go x86, but want to know what is 
the best hardware for this?



Thanks!



Erich Kaiser

The Fusion Network

er...@gotfusion.net 
>

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

[AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Chris Wright]

I have a couple customers who are testing poorly at fast.com, yet their speeds 
are great on speedtest.net servers. Naturally they claim Netflix constantly 
buffers and accuse me of throttling Netflix - we're doing no such thing. For 
giggles I kicked their SM for a moment and put their pppoe account in a laptop 
at the NOC, set the throttle exorbitantly high (100mbps) and let it rip. 2mbps 
to fast.com, 99mbps everywhere else. Testing an adjacent IP in the same subnet 
will do 99mbps at both fast.com and speedtest.net.

I would be on the phone with my upstream asking questions if other IPs in the 
same subnet were experiencing the same results. This whole thing feels like 
Netflix is targeting individual IPs with a throttle hammer. Any ideas here?

Chris Wright
Network Administrator

[AFMUG] Boots for climbing

[Ben Royer]

May have been a conversation of the past, but thought I’d throw it out for 
discussion.  What do all you tower climbers out there use for a work boot?  
I’ve used Wolverine’s for awhile now and to me has been a pretty good pair of 
boots.  Durable and comfortable, seem to hold up on tower rungs and what not.  
However, I’ve had this pair for a bit now, and am looking to buy a new pair, 
but before I do, I’m curious as to what’s the best.  I’m considering a steel 
shank, steel toe, option, as my currents are only steel toe, but not sure if 
it’s worth it.  What say you, group?

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple

[Josh Reynolds]

Add Asus to that list, who made the Nexus 7 tablet.

On Oct 7, 2016 2:48 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> An LG phone is an LG phone. A Samsung phone is a Samsung phone. An HTC
> phone is an HTC phone. Google Nexus devices have been made by them all
> (Lenovo, HTC, LG, Samsung, etc.)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jason McKemie" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:34:57 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG]  Google wants to be Apple
>
> Don't most tech companies just hand their hardware specs to some other
> company (usually Chinese / Taiwanese) to have them made? The only companies
> that actually make phones are Foxconn and the like.
>
> On Thursday, October 6, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> But they don't actually make things. They hand some hardware specs
>> (though I don't know how thorough) to a vendor and they make it. Other than
>> when Google owned Motorola, they haven't actually made any phones.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:45:51 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>>
>> Yes, back to the original subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI, I still get a print newspaper at home, and it had a whole separate
>> section like 10 or 12 pages paid for by Google with the theme “Made By
>> Google”.  That cost a bunch.  So they view this as a big marketing push,
>> they now want to be known as a hardware company that makes things.  (Or
>> perhaps Things, as in Internet of Things.)
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a bit reminiscent of 1984 though.  George Orwell was right, the
>> Proles will pay to have their own Telescreens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:03 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>>
>>
>>
>> Why all the anger? It's simply personal preference. Apple has a closed
>> ecosystem. The hardware is tailored to a specific OS and vice-versa. They
>> have full control. This is the reason Apple will always have speed and
>> efficiency advantages. It should go without saying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Android is an OS built to work for hundreds of different hardware
>> configurations. I find that to be very impressive that it works as well as
>> it does. I think everyone understands the distinction between the two
>> platforms and know what to expect. The argument and comparisons between the
>> two is getting old. Each is a great product in their own right.
>>
>>
>>
>> To get back to the original subject line. I do agree. Google understands
>> they can make a better product if they have more control over the hardware.
>> I don't think anyone can dispute Google intentions in this particular case.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> You obviously didn't read my message... my point was, in the US market,
>> which is the "most educated, most advanced" country in the world, Apple has
>> a 44% marketshare... almost double of the 2nd place phone.
>>
>> We can talk "Android" use vs IOS use, but anyone can build and GIVE AWAY
>> an Operating System... just like starting a company that you don't have to
>> make a profit... anyone can do that.  :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 10/5/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> You have a strong opinion, but it is poorly formed. Apple has a decent
>> take in the US market, but that's a small percentage of the overall pie.
>> That's slated to slide more away from Apple given current trends.
>>
>> 2nd quarter of this year Android was at 86.2% global 

[AFMUG] FS: Cisco Asr 1002 -F & ASR 1001

[Daniel Gerlach]

hit me offlist

Daniel

Re: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans

[Joe Falaschi]

We like the dual sliding doors.  We install shelving on the driver side door 
entry way for easy access to tools.  The Transit connects are decent.  The full 
size transits are too large for us - mileage is too big of a hit.  I’m sure 
they will last longer but by the time they are 5 or 6 years old the wrap is 
tired and it’s worth nothing, new stuff is out, might as well just plan on a 4 
year replacement cycle and have something that always works.  We’ve had some 
issues with the older transit connects as they get into the 100k mileage range. 
 Our new vans are Promaster Cities.  They get better mileage than our Transit 
Connects and are hopefully a little tougher.  There are some great incentives 
on the Ram Promaster City vans right now.

Joe Falaschi
e-vergent



> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> I am also looking at Ford Transit, medium roof 130” wheelbase 3.5L Ecoboost.  
> Trying to decide if the dual sliding doors option is brilliant or stupid.
>  
> A dealer near me bought up a bunch of 2016 Transits with hail damage, I 
> decided to pass on that.  I think that means a salvage title.
>  
>   <>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Suggestions for work vans
>  
> I already have a Tacoma which is great, but I'm looking for a second vehicle 
> for a second driver.  I'd like to try a work van to keep everything inside.  
> Maybe even warm parts for the winter.
>  
> I'm looking at the Ford Transit and would love to hear of any additional 
> suggestions/experiences.
>  
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple

[Jason McKemie]

Which, in turn, are likely made by another company. Nexus is just another
level of branding.

On Friday, October 7, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> An LG phone is an LG phone. A Samsung phone is a Samsung phone. An HTC
> phone is an HTC phone. Google Nexus devices have been made by them all
> (Lenovo, HTC, LG, Samsung, etc.)
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jason McKemie"  >
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:34:57 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG]  Google wants to be Apple
>
> Don't most tech companies just hand their hardware specs to some other
> company (usually Chinese / Taiwanese) to have them made? The only companies
> that actually make phones are Foxconn and the like.
>
> On Thursday, October 6, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> But they don't actually make things. They hand some hardware specs
>> (though I don't know how thorough) to a vendor and they make it. Other than
>> when Google owned Motorola, they haven't actually made any phones.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:45:51 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>>
>> Yes, back to the original subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI, I still get a print newspaper at home, and it had a whole separate
>> section like 10 or 12 pages paid for by Google with the theme “Made By
>> Google”.  That cost a bunch.  So they view this as a big marketing push,
>> they now want to be known as a hardware company that makes things.  (Or
>> perhaps Things, as in Internet of Things.)
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a bit reminiscent of 1984 though.  George Orwell was right, the
>> Proles will pay to have their own Telescreens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:03 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple
>>
>>
>>
>> Why all the anger? It's simply personal preference. Apple has a closed
>> ecosystem. The hardware is tailored to a specific OS and vice-versa. They
>> have full control. This is the reason Apple will always have speed and
>> efficiency advantages. It should go without saying.
>>
>>
>>
>> Android is an OS built to work for hundreds of different hardware
>> configurations. I find that to be very impressive that it works as well as
>> it does. I think everyone understands the distinction between the two
>> platforms and know what to expect. The argument and comparisons between the
>> two is getting old. Each is a great product in their own right.
>>
>>
>>
>> To get back to the original subject line. I do agree. Google understands
>> they can make a better product if they have more control over the hardware.
>> I don't think anyone can dispute Google intentions in this particular case.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> You obviously didn't read my message... my point was, in the US market,
>> which is the "most educated, most advanced" country in the world, Apple has
>> a 44% marketshare... almost double of the 2nd place phone.
>>
>> We can talk "Android" use vs IOS use, but anyone can build and GIVE AWAY
>> an Operating System... just like starting a company that you don't have to
>> make a profit... anyone can do that.  :)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 10/5/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> You have a strong opinion, but it is poorly formed. Apple has a decent
>> take in the US market, but that's a small 

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I will try these things, I do appreciate it, I also set cpe isolation to
block cpe destined packets, this should stop some idle traffic between
units shouldnt it?

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their smartgrid
> system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.
>
> They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume they
> limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them when some CPE
> connected to their BS and the customers called us because they had no
> internet access.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>
>
> GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot
>
> On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>> George, is this due to some weird weather by you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found out
>> ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of
>> the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One tower
>> by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It
>> didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower when
>> they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the CPE locations and drew
>> lines following the stated azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to
>> a ComEd facility.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>>
>>
>>
>> lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>> Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
>> dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz links go
>> from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a couple minutes, and
>> BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
>> network, it has hit multiple sites at once.
>>
>> I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on very
>> limited access points
>>
>>
>>
>> good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.
>>
>>
>>
>> uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
>> utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps throughput
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it presented
>> like interference, and a change on one AP results in required cascade
>> changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually work.
>>
>>
>>
>> APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
>> mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35
>>
>>
>>
>> I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
>> seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low
>>
>>
>>
>> Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
>> the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like
>>
>>
>>
>> we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
>> thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
>> though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others
>>
>>
>>
>> any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Adam Moffett]

Our power company is also using 3.65ghz Wimax as part of their smartgrid 
system.  Sounds like it is a backhaul to their 900mhz stuff.


They don't have any authentication on their Wimax system (I presume they 
limit network access by other means), so we tripped over them when some 
CPE connected to their BS and the customers called us because they had 
no internet access.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 10/6/2016 10:25:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320


GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot


On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

George, is this due to some weird weather by you?



Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found 
out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is 
the top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to 
substations.  One tower by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP 
only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It didn’t help that they totally messed up the 
lat/lon of their tower when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked 
at the CPE locations and drew lines following the stated azimuth, I 
saw they converged on a tower next to a ComEd facility.






From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy 
/sarcasm

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320



lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz 
silent




On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:


Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started 
around dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 
11GHz links go from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a 
couple minutes, and BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.




On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320 
network, it has hit multiple sites at once.


I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on 
very limited access points




good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.



uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame 
utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps 
throughput




I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it 
presented like interference, and a change on one AP results in 
required cascade changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync 
doesnt actually work.




APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz 
channels mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 
10 to 35




I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am 
not seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low




Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP 
on the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks 
like




we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 
AP thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near 
channel even though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far 
from the others




any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated





--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
team.











--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Adam Moffett]

HARQ is part of the magic. IMO I would enable and set it to one or two 
retries.


Uplink and Downlink backoff make the SM's more or less conservative 
about which MCS level to use.  Basically if it needed a 22 CINR for a 
certain rate, it won't switch to that rate until CINR is 22+backoff.  
I've reduced packet loss by going to higher values.there's a 
corresponding drop in throughput of course.  So hopefully in the long 
run you fix the interference and go back to 3.


I miss the 320.  There are definitely worse Wimax implementations.


-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 10/7/2016 12:29:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320


disabled, no retries, what would help?












pictures were easier






On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Colin Stanners  
wrote:
Under Config->ServiceFlows->QoS Profiles, do the profiles whose 
numbers you're using (selected on the Default Parameters page) have 
HARQ enabled? How many retries?


Under config->Air Interface -> C/N config, what's the C/N Table Base? 
default -70?


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320 
network, it has hit multiple sites at once.
I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on 
very limited access points


good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.

uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame 
utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps 
throughput


I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it 
presented like interference, and a change on one AP results in 
required cascade changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync 
doesnt actually work.


APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels 
mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35


I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not 
seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low


Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP 
on the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks 
like


we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 
AP thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near 
channel even though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far 
from the others


any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[Gino Villarini]

thanks for the spagetthi monster!

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:41 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
wrote:

>
> Initial reports from Paul are good - per his post on facebook, "I should
> have a better feel for damages by EOD, but so far it looks like we are very
> fortunate"
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Super WISP 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2016 7:48 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
> Praying for the best Paul.  Hang in there buddy.
>
>
>
> *Mark Chamerlik*
>
> Strategic Account Manager-East Coast
>
> [image: cid:image001.jpg@01D14A33.56536AF0]
>
> 630-818-1004 OFFICE
>
> 815-822-4490 CELL
>
> ma...@wavonline.com
>
> www.wavonline.com
>
>
>
> For additional assistance: email tea...@wavonline.com
>
>
>
> *NEW*: 2016 IMPROVEMENTS TO WAV’S BUSINESS MANAGEMENT
> 
>
> [image: Description: twitter-logo-100x100.png]
>  [image: Description:
> fb-logo-100x100.png]
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> FPL is estimating close to 2 million people will lose power in this
> event.  Trying to stay positive, but this looks nasty.   Definitely will be
> worse than the 2 that hit us directly in 2004.
>
>
>
> We are riding it out in a CBS house with good roof with my mother and
> sisters, about 10 miles inland.  We are in a metal building, so I am going
> to shut things down here soon and take the servers and critical machines
> with me.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:34 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> TV news says now Category 4, still predicted to hit West Palm first and
> parallel the “space coast”, predicting Georgia won’t get the 140 mph winds
> but will see storm surge.  Gov. Scott saying unequivocally evacuate now,
> also the east coast of FL will, not may, lose power.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> no,
>
>
>
> more like starting Today late evening... and continuing along the coast
> tomorrow and the day after.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:12:35 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> Still looking at Friday morning for impact?
>
> - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Larry Smith 
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:30 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
> Prayers enroute
>
> --
> Larry Smith
> lesm...@ecsis.net
>
> On Wed October 5 2016 16:48, Wireless Administrator wrote:
> > If we make it through the storm and you need help.  We will provide
> > assistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steven Bastardi
> >
> > President
> >
> > The Home Town Network Inc
> >
> > Lake Placid, Fl
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf
> Of Paul McCall
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 2:59 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
> >
> >
> >
> > We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to
> > probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast
> area,
> > and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts the
> > cost and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable.  We
> > have done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before it
> > hits.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it's very hard and
> > stressful.
> >
> >
> >
> > We appreciate the thoughts and prayers
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul McCall, President
> >
> > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
> >
> > 658 Old Dixie Highway
> >
> > Vero Beach, FL 32962
> >
> > 772-564-6800
> >
> > pa...@pdmnet.net
> >
> > www.pdmnet.com
> >
> > www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
> This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to
> which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
> confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader
> of this message is not the intended 

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Initial reports from Paul are good - per his post on facebook, "I should have a 
better feel for damages by EOD, but so far it looks like we are very fortunate"


  - Original Message - 
  From: Super WISP 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 7:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!


  Praying for the best Paul.  Hang in there buddy.

   

  Mark Chamerlik

  Strategic Account Manager-East Coast



  630-818-1004 OFFICE

  815-822-4490 CELL

  ma...@wavonline.com

  www.wavonline.com

   

  For additional assistance: email tea...@wavonline.com

   

  NEW: 2016 IMPROVEMENTS TO WAV’S BUSINESS MANAGEMENT 

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:22 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

   

  FPL is estimating close to 2 million people will lose power in this event.  
Trying to stay positive, but this looks nasty.   Definitely will be worse than 
the 2 that hit us directly in 2004.  

   

  We are riding it out in a CBS house with good roof with my mother and 
sisters, about 10 miles inland.  We are in a metal building, so I am going to 
shut things down here soon and take the servers and critical machines with me.

   

  Paul

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

   

  TV news says now Category 4, still predicted to hit West Palm first and 
parallel the “space coast”, predicting Georgia won’t get the 140 mph winds but 
will see storm surge.  Gov. Scott saying unequivocally evacuate now, also the 
east coast of FL will, not may, lose power.

   

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

   

  no, 

   

  more like starting Today late evening... and continuing along the coast 
tomorrow and the day after. 

   

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

   


--

From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

 

Still looking at Friday morning for impact?

  - Original Message -

  From: Larry Smith

  To: af@afmug.com

  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:30 AM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!


  Prayers enroute

  -- 
  Larry Smith
  lesm...@ecsis.net

  On Wed October 5 2016 16:48, Wireless Administrator wrote:
  > If we make it through the storm and you need help.  We will provide
  > assistance.
  >
  >
  >
  > Steven Bastardi
  >
  > President
  >
  > The Home Town Network Inc
  >
  > Lake Placid, Fl
  >
  >
  >
  > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 2:59 PM
  > To: af@afmug.com
  > Subject: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
  >
  >
  >
  > We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to
  > probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast 
area,
  > and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts the
  > cost and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable.  
We
  > have done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before it
  > hits.
  >
  >
  >
  > We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it's very hard and
  > stressful.
  >
  >
  >
  > We appreciate the thoughts and prayers
  >
  >
  >
  > Paul
  >
  >
  >
  > Paul McCall, President
  >
  > PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
  >
  > 658 Old Dixie Highway
  >
  > Vero Beach, FL 32962
  >
  > 772-564-6800
  >
  > pa...@pdmnet.net
  >
  > www.pdmnet.com
  >
  > www.floridabroadband.com

 

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Re: [AFMUG] adding channels to pmp320 sm with snmp

[Zack Deveaux]

When I add channels to a PMP320 CPE via snmp, I'm usually only adding one at 
time.  I typically snmpwalk to see what indexes are already there, then add the 
next one in using commands similar to the below.  I suppose there's an order of 
operations to add multiple indexes, I just haven't played around with it:




snmpwalk -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannel

Motorola-Cpe-PRIVATE-MIB::gemtekDevCpeChannelIndex.0 = INTEGER: 0
Motorola-Cpe-PRIVATE-MIB::gemtekDevCpeChannelIndex.1 = INTEGER: 1
Motorola-Cpe-PRIVATE-MIB::gemtekDevCpeChannelIndex.2 = INTEGER: 2


snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelRowstatus.3 = 5

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelFrequency.3 = 3655000

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelBandwidth.3 = 5000

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelEntryEnable.3 = 1

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelRowstatus.3 = 1

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 gemtekDevCpeChannelApplyLoadOrSave.3 = 1

snmpset -v2c -c private 10.1.1.254 rebootWithResponse = 255




From: Af  on behalf of Eric Muehleisen 

Sent: October 7, 2016 10:14:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] adding channels to pmp320 sm with snmp

This may not help you but I've been using Cambiums Wireless Manager to make 
mass channel changes. As Adam said, it's a major pain to script. If you beg and 
plead, I bet Cambium would allow you fire up a temporary Wireless manager 
server to get you by.

If Cambium has any decency in their hearts, they'd throw you a bone!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:
anyone care to offer some wisdom here
I need to add 4 10mhz channels to the scan list on a whole bunch of 320 
subscribers that i cant manage via web interface (did I mention I hate 320) but 
snmp is working like a champion stud horse

I dont know how to set multiple things at once there are already 6 7mhz 
channels in all of them so the index stars at .6 but i dont know how to do it

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] adding channels to pmp320 sm with snmp

[Eric Muehleisen]

This may not help you but I've been using Cambiums Wireless Manager to make
mass channel changes. As Adam said, it's a major pain to script. If you beg
and plead, I bet Cambium would allow you fire up a temporary Wireless
manager server to get you by.

If Cambium has any decency in their hearts, they'd throw you a bone!

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 2:31 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> anyone care to offer some wisdom here
> I need to add 4 10mhz channels to the scan list on a whole bunch of 320
> subscribers that i cant manage via web interface (did I mention I hate 320)
> but snmp is working like a champion stud horse
>
> I dont know how to set multiple things at once there are already 6 7mhz
> channels in all of them so the index stars at .6 but i dont know how to do
> it
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
UBNT.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
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On 10/6/16 9:51 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  What PTMP equipment are you using at those sites? I have seen odd
  things happen on APs during severe fading events.
  
  On 10/6/2016 10:20 PM, Jesse DuPont
wrote:
  
  

I'll chime in on this... We had four separate multipoint APs
this morning, two on one tower and the other two each on their
own separate towers, all drop all their RF sessions to SMs and
had to be rebooted before the SMs would reconnect. I wonder if,
had the equipment been higher quality, maybe the SMs would not
have dropped, just degraded for a bit (perhaps)? Other than
these are all in the same 20 mile radius, they have nothing in
common other than the owner. Do you think it's the same
symptoms/problem?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:02 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Thunderstorms this afternoon. Then it cleared and the sun was
  beating down for a while. Still 70F outside. Dew point 67F.
  90% humidity. Wind dropped to zero around dusk, which is the
  major contributing factor. Feels like a summer night outside
  right now. The wind should pick up a little bit later and mix
  things up. Hopefully.
  
  Our 30 mile 6GHz path is about 7dB low one direction and 18dB
  low in the other direction (Rx high side) right now. Sitting
  at 256QAM and 64QAM. As I'm writing this, I'm sitting here
  watching the Rx high side RSL swing back up 10dB in less than
  a minute. Now both RSLs are even, but still 7dB below normal.
  And both sides back to full mod. Now it's starting to reverse.
  The Rx low end is going down hill while the Rx high is sitting
  fairly steady. And now they're even again. You can really see
  the frequency selective fading with the FDD split. Cool stuff.
  Sucks, but still cool to watch.
  
  On 10/6/2016 9:17 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
  
  




  George,
  is this due to some weird weather by you?
   
  Oh,
  and one thing to consider if you have 3.65
  interference, I found out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX
  for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of the
  hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to
  substations.  One tower by me they have 4 sectors and
  I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It didn’t help
  that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower
  when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the
  CPE locations and drew lines following the stated
  azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a
  ComEd facility.
   
   
  
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
   
  
lol well it wont be coming from us
  for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
  
  
 

  On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM,
George Skorup 
wrote:
  

  Dude, I'm seeing multipath
and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm
seeing some 11GHz links go from their nominal
-45ish 

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Eric Muehleisen]

Check your active service flow stats. Packet count vs. packets dropped.
Anything over 3% packet loss in the uplink and you won't be able to manage
them.

Uplink packet loss would indicate interference at the tower. Downlink loss
would be at the SM level.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> disabled, no retries, what would help?
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
> [image: Inline image 3]
>
>
> [image: Inline image 4]
> [image: Inline image 5]
>
>
>
> [image: Inline image 6]
>
> pictures were easier
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Under Config->ServiceFlows->QoS Profiles, do the profiles whose numbers
>> you're using (selected on the Default Parameters page) have HARQ enabled?
>> How many retries?
>>
>> Under config->Air Interface -> C/N config, what's the C/N Table Base?
>> default -70?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
>>> network, it has hit multiple sites at once.
>>> I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on
>>> very limited access points
>>>
>>> good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.
>>>
>>> uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
>>> utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps throughput
>>>
>>> I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it presented
>>> like interference, and a change on one AP results in required cascade
>>> changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually work.
>>>
>>> APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
>>> mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35
>>>
>>> I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
>>> seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low
>>>
>>> Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
>>> the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like
>>>
>>> we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
>>> thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
>>> though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others
>>>
>>> any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Eric Muehleisen]

We still have about 1600 320 SM's in the air. Knocking on wood. Problems
like these are a nightmare to troubleshoot.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You have 600 customers on 320 WiMAX?  That would make a person look
> forward to dying and going to the bad place.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>
>
>
> good night to bring down 600 customers on purpose, ive never done that
> before
>
>
>
> i know the water company called me yesterday about their system on 917.5
> mhz croaking out on them, dont know what killed 900mhz, i ficgured it was
> com ed pushing out fram eureka or wherever. if they start puttin up wimax,
> i shooting every comed guy i see in the cock with a pellet gun
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> GE MDS is pushing 3.65 SCADA allot
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2016 8:17 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
> George, is this due to some weird weather by you?
>
>
>
> Oh, and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I found out
> ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of
> the hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One tower
> by me they have 4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It
> didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower when
> they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the CPE locations and drew
> lines following the stated azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to
> a ComEd facility.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
>
>
>
> lol well it wont be coming from us for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Dude, I'm seeing multipath and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
> dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz links go
> from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to -60 in just a couple minutes, and
> BER alarms like crazy. This is teh suck.
>
>
>
> On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> There is some nutty madness going on on a large portion of our 320
> network, it has hit multiple sites at once.
>
> I know much of its self induced due to too many marginal installs on very
> limited access points
>
>
>
> good CINR to SMs, even matrix B I cant even get into to manage.
>
>
>
> uplink MCS for the most part looks good until i get into the frame
> utilization, tons of 16qam 1/2 and 100% usage with only 6-12 mbps throughput
>
>
>
> I have been shifting frequencies across the network because it presented
> like interference, and a change on one AP results in required cascade
> changes across the 3ghz network since 320 sync doesnt actually work.
>
>
>
> APs are basically default layer 2, no profiles changed, 7mhz channels
> mostly ABCD 90s and some split APs. sub counts range from 10 to 35
>
>
>
> I migrated a distant part of the network to 10mhz channels and am not
> seeing this issue, but subscriber counts are low
>
>
>
> Im at my wits end on this nonsense and am about to just put every AP on
> the network in SA mode to get a visual on what my spectrum looks like
>
>
>
> we did turn up a 450 facing southwest ten miles south of another 320 AP
> thats facing south, it blinded the SMs to the 320 on a near channel even
> though they were only in the back lobe, but this is far from the others
>
>
>
> any advice from you other guys stuck with wimax would be appreciated
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

[Super WISP]

Praying for the best Paul.  Hang in there buddy.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

FPL is estimating close to 2 million people will lose power in this event.  
Trying to stay positive, but this looks nasty.   Definitely will be worse than 
the 2 that hit us directly in 2004.

We are riding it out in a CBS house with good roof with my mother and sisters, 
about 10 miles inland.  We are in a metal building, so I am going to shut 
things down here soon and take the servers and critical machines with me.

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

TV news says now Category 4, still predicted to hit West Palm first and 
parallel the “space coast”, predicting Georgia won’t get the 140 mph winds but 
will see storm surge.  Gov. Scott saying unequivocally evacuate now, also the 
east coast of FL will, not may, lose power.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

no,

more like starting Today late evening... and continuing along the coast 
tomorrow and the day after.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

Still looking at Friday morning for impact?
- Original Message -
From: Larry Smith
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!

Prayers enroute

--
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Wed October 5 2016 16:48, Wireless Administrator wrote:
> If we make it through the storm and you need help.  We will provide
> assistance.
>
>
>
> Steven Bastardi
>
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>
> The Home Town Network Inc
>
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>
>
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 2:59 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] Please keep us in your prayers guys!
>
>
>
> We have Hurricane Matthew coming up the cost, and now its forecast to
> probably touch land fall as a Category 3 right in the Treasure Coast area,
> and we are right in the middle of that.  Praying that it just skirts the
> cost and not a full landfall.  We have 39 towers that are vulnerable.  We
> have done all the prep possible and are unplugging everything before it
> hits.
>
>
>
> We have recovered from 3 hurricanes previously and it's very hard and
> stressful.
>
>
>
> We appreciate the thoughts and prayers
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS

[Josh Baird]

I'm hosting DNS on NS1.KYWIMAX.COM.  It looks like Paul did forget to
update the NS RRSet to make my server authoritative (give him a break, he's
dealing with a hurricane), but as long as I'm answering queries things
should be fine for the next 9 days (when the expire SOA reaches zero).  I
could always flip the slave into a master zone and update the NS RRSet
myself.

Josh

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> So a lame delegation.  But if it is answering queries, maybe things won’t
> break?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] afmug.com DNS
>
>
>
> I am seeing ns1.kywimax.com as a 3rd nameserver in the whois record for
> afmug.com
>
> It seems to be answering
>
> But the zone file itself was not updated to list ns1.kywimax.com as
> authoritative, so stuff will probably break.
>
>
> dig mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> mail.afmug.com @ns1.kywimax.com
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 17959
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;mail.afmug.com.INA
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> mail.afmug.com.600INA54.210.210.89
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> afmug.com.10800INNSns0.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns.pdmnet.com.
> afmug.com.10800INNSns1.pdmnet.com.
>
> ;; Query time: 93 msec
> ;; SERVER: 100.42.32.200#53(100.42.32.200)
> ;; WHEN: Thu Oct 06 21:25:11 PDT 2016
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 119
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:09 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Looks like Paul's network is offline. Did the secondary DNS for afmug.com
> get set up? Doesn't look like it. I'm still seeing ns, ns0 and
> ns1.pdmnet.net as the name servers. And all three are obviously down. So
> the list is going to break once everyone's DNS caches expire.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Bell Canada deregulating in areas

[Paul Stewart]

Lol... yeah that happens sometimes too but we are very persistent on that kind 
of stuff ;)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> "Sorry, LEC says no ports available."
> 
>> On 10/6/2016 8:22 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
>> Big decision for us Canadians today who utilize wholesale access networks a 
>> lot … (besides our own infrastructure)
>> 
>>> http://www.bnn.ca/crtc-slashes-wholesale-fees-charged-by-incumbent-isps-in-bid-to-stay-competitive-1.580977
>> 
>> Great news!
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
 On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is definately having impact on third party providers (TPIA as 
>>> referenced).. 
>>> 
>>> Bell has been told that they must provide mandated access to these fiber 
>>> networks as part of a ruling fairly recently … along with the access being 
>>> opened up, there are separate hearings on disaggregation of wholesale 
>>> access as well (which has significant pros/cons all in one)
>>> 
>>> Forborne basically means no tariffs if I understand correctly … I’m 
>>> obviously not a telecom lawyer or pretend to be one :)  It doesn’t mean 
>>> that they won’t provide wholesale access to those facilities and one might 
>>> argue that it doesn’t mean they will neither … 
>>> 
>>> There’s a number of different proceedings around this ongoing - I find it 
>>> hard to follow all of them but if you know the CRTC file number happy to 
>>> provide some additional insight/opinion
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 6, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Steve  wrote:
 
 Locally seeing these notices popping up from Bell. So they are requesting 
 to be exempt from the rules the CRTC has set forth.  This would be 
 equivalent to you going to the FCC and saying "your rules don't apply to 
 us and I want you to recognize that in these particular areas". Is my 
 understanding correct?
 
 Sounds like:
 A) They want permission to undercut prices in certain areas.  
 B) To be exempt from other tariffs and specifically excluding people from 
 using their lines. 
 C) Do they want to be allowed to throttle services?
 
 Locally there has been an area they put fiber in, and terminated their dsl 
 lined which left TPIA people high and dry. Tekksavvy etc could no longer 
 provide service and lost a bunch of customers.  I don't know what the 
 outcome was but there was no rule yet in place that they had to share 
 their fiber lines too.  So it was a grey area.  I wonder if they are 
 trying to exempt themselves from a whole slew of things in certain areas.  
 
 Anyway 
 
 Does the FCC have any sort of provision for something similar?  
 
 Have any of you used this before? 
 
 Their notice was pretty vague.  I'm going to see if I can find the filing. 
  
 
 --
 Keeping you informed.


 As you may know, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications 
 Commission (CRTC) regulates the terms and conditions of the local services 
 that Bell provides you. This limits our flexibility to provide you the 
 types of competitive offers we’d like. That may all change in your area in 
 the coming months.
 
 On August 26, 2016, Bell filed an application to the CRTC to have certain 
 local services “forborne” from regulation. If our request is approved, 
 local telecommunication services Bell offers you will be forborne or 
 deregulated by the CRTC. You will continue to receive the quality services 
 you have come to expect from Bell, under our Terms of Service, which were 
 previously provided to you. You will find a copy at www.bell.ca/terms. 
   The Terms of Service will apply to your newly unregulated 
 local services from the date the CRTC issues an order approving the 
 forbearance application for your local exchange area.
 
 What does this mean for you?
 
•   We will be able to provide you with more exciting offers and 
 propose more innovative services.
•   We will continue to provide services on the basis of the Terms 
 of Service.
•   As a Bell customer, you will be kept informed if the 
 application for forbearance is approved.
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple

[Mike Hammett]

An LG phone is an LG phone. A Samsung phone is a Samsung phone. An HTC phone is 
an HTC phone. Google Nexus devices have been made by them all (Lenovo, HTC, LG, 
Samsung, etc.) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:34:57 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple 

Don't most tech companies just hand their hardware specs to some other company 
(usually Chinese / Taiwanese) to have them made? The only companies that 
actually make phones are Foxconn and the like. 

On Thursday, October 6, 2016, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




But they don't actually make things. They hand some hardware specs (though I 
don't know how thorough) to a vendor and they make it. Other than when Google 
owned Motorola, they haven't actually made any phones. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:45:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple 



Yes, back to the original subject. 

FYI, I still get a print newspaper at home, and it had a whole separate section 
like 10 or 12 pages paid for by Google with the theme “Made By Google”. That 
cost a bunch. So they view this as a big marketing push, they now want to be 
known as a hardware company that makes things. (Or perhaps Things, as in 
Internet of Things.) 

It is a bit reminiscent of 1984 though. George Orwell was right, the Proles 
will pay to have their own Telescreens. 


From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen 
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:03 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google wants to be Apple 


Why all the anger? It's simply personal preference. Apple has a closed 
ecosystem. The hardware is tailored to a specific OS and vice-versa. They have 
full control. This is the reason Apple will always have speed and efficiency 
advantages. It should go without saying. 



Android is an OS built to work for hundreds of different hardware 
configurations. I find that to be very impressive that it works as well as it 
does. I think everyone understands the distinction between the two platforms 
and know what to expect. The argument and comparisons between the two is 
getting old. Each is a great product in their own right. 



To get back to the original subject line. I do agree. Google understands they 
can make a better product if they have more control over the hardware. I don't 
think anyone can dispute Google intentions in this particular case. 



On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Travis Johnson < t...@ida.net > wrote: 



You obviously didn't read my message... my point was, in the US market, which 
is the "most educated, most advanced" country in the world, Apple has a 44% 
marketshare... almost double of the 2nd place phone. 

We can talk "Android" use vs IOS use, but anyone can build and GIVE AWAY an 
Operating System... just like starting a company that you don't have to make a 
profit... anyone can do that. :) 

Travis 

On 10/5/2016 7:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 


You have a strong opinion, but it is poorly formed. Apple has a decent take in 
the US market, but that's a small percentage of the overall pie. That's slated 
to slide more away from Apple given current trends. 
2nd quarter of this year Android was at 86.2% global smartphone share, and 
Apple is losing ground quarter after quarter. 
https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphone-marketshare-hit-86-2-in-q2/
 
87.6 once more results were in: 
http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp 
You're entitled to your opinion though, by all means. 



On Oct 5, 2016 8:24 PM, "Travis Johnson" < t...@ida.net > wrote: 


Actually, Apple is the top smartphone in the US... nobody cares about the rest 
of the world... they have 44% marketshare in the US. You know, the country 
where every real Internet and tech company is located... Apple, Intel, 
Facebook, Instagram, Amazon, Google, etc. 

Take your pick of Android phone... their screen responses all suck compared to 
an iPhone. :) 

Travis 


On 10/5/2016 6:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote: 


It was not me that said that. 

I don't buy Apple products. Period. I would not get an Apple product if it were 
free. 

And there is good reason that most of the people on the planet use a smartphone 
other than theirs. 

And a Samsung smartphone is not real Android, so that is a piss poor 
comparison. 


bp 
 

On 10/5/2016 3:30 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: 


Some people ride a Honda, some people ride a Harley. Some people drive a Chevy, 
some people drive a BMW. 

I think it was you that even said "If the price was the same, everyone would be 
using an iPhone"... which I honestly