Re: How to set right-to-left in DVF field on service request browser?

2012-06-19 Thread Mahendra Mahalkar
Dear Tim,
We raised this to BMC and as per them it is RFE  for such specific
customization.
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*Regards,*
*Mahendra Mahalkar
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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tim Mccue tim.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 All,

 To follow up on this post below and for the arabic/hebrew users out there.
 Has anyone been sucessful in configuring SRM to display Services correctly
 using Right to Left format. So that the when a standard SRD (question and
 mapping) is displayed the arabic/hebrew text is displayed
  right justified
 menus/fields for response to the left



 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Mahendra Mahalkar 
 mahendra.mahal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Dear All,

 Our client requires SRM configuration in arabic locale. Services are
 configured in arabic locale but in service request browser,
 service/requester details are displayed left-to-right instead of
 right-to-left as attached.

 In BMC AR System Integration Document it is given as ---

 If you create a DVF and you want to create different contents based on
 text direction, extract the text direction from

 PluginContext . (Because the DVF cannot determine your intent regarding
 text direction, you must add the text direction to your HTML content for
 the DVF [for example, by using the html dir='rtl' option].)

 To extract the text direction, use the 
 com.remedy.arsys.plugincontainer.ARLocaleServiceProperties
 interface through the public String getProperty(String key, String
 defvalue); method.

 Following is a simple example for extracting the text direction from the 
 PluginContext
 object given

 com.remedy.arsys.plugincontainer.PluginContext pc;

 ARLocaleServiceProperties p =

 (ARLocaleServiceProperties)pc.getLocaleService();

 boolean isRTL = false;

 String val = p.getProperty(rtl, false);

 if (val.equalsIgnoreCase(true))

 isRTL = true;

 But my concern is where can I find the html used in DVF fields? Also
 plugincontainer.jar file?
 *Regards,*
 *Mahendra Mahalkar
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Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server – Pointers Needed

2012-06-19 Thread Ron Tavares
Hi Axton,

Good question.  The server team has stated that they have frequent problems
with this server.  It often will just hang and requires a restart.  Also,
escalations tend to bottleneck and run behind for things like
notifications.  On the Database side,.  DBA maintains that the database is
not bottlenecking.  He has also run the Oracle analyzer gadget to see if
there are any index recommendations that come back, but the report he gets
back is that there is no room for improvement.

Our slowest process time is during the Push action to CTM:People.  I ran a
log on this action and found that there is quite a bit of OOTB workflow
that fires on Submit and Modify of CTM:People to keep supporting forms
updated.  I analysed each of these Fiilters, looking at the Push Quals,
then looking at the form indexes that they are pushing to.  This was a
manual process but I found that all OOTB Push Actions do have the correct
indexes to support the push based on the Quals being used.

.ron


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Axton axton.gr...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** I am curious what you were seeing on the original Windows escalation
 server that led you to believe that the server could not handle the load.
  Generally, the bottleneck for escalations is the database, especially when
 you start setting up lots of escalation pools.

 Axton Grams


 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:05 AM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Ron,
 Remedy has escalations feature to support recurring tasks, it can be used
 to certain extent  for bulk or mass updates.
 But the tool is not very scalable if you are talking about very bulky
 jobs or too many recurring jobs. Though I have not seen many people
 reaching to this extreme but every company is different on how they use
 remedy.
 So the idea is offload them from escalations as much as possible and
 still be compatible with remedy workings.

 Here are a few things I can think of:

 1. As Frederick mentioned you can create some java or perl programs using
 remedy apis. Embed them in a shell script and call those shell scripts
 using cronjobs or job scheduling tools. Since you are going through remedy
 api all the serverside workflow will still be triggered and all the
 validations and push fields will be perfomed.
 Prefer Java/C as there isn't any active support for ARS Perl. In this way
 though all the load is still be taken care by arserver, esclation has
 nothing to do with this.
 You can build as many arservers as you want and have these scripts
 connect to different arservers. So this can be very scalable.
  Also Remedy ITSM OOTB ignores indexes at several places so  analyze
 where the lag is and try to create indexes where possible.

 2. Another thing you can look into is, use the current mechanism you are
 doing, and where ever possible and you do not need any workflow to be
 triggered during escalation updates, create a filter with RunIF: $USER$ =
 AR Escalator and Action:GoTo 999. This will skip all the workflow during
 escalation runs.

  3. You are correct, any updates directly at SQL level will not fire
 remedy workflow and will be significantly faster as you are removing the
 whole application layer.
 But BMC standing is you will loose the support if you directly touch the
 data. So use it as a last resort and check with them before hand.


 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:02:02 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote:

 **
 Hi Vamsi

 Yes, BMC does raise concern in regards to the mixed OS.  But they have
 not yet told us that is not supported.  I agree that it would be best to be
 on the same OS.  If we get good results with running escalations on
 Solaris, the plan is to eventually move all our ARs to Solaris.

 Yes, we are using escalation pools.  We plan on extending escalation
 pools to some of the out of box escalations as well, once we confirm the
 Solaris box can handle the extra workload.

 The idea of using cronjobs is interesting.  I'm assuming you are talking
 about cronjobs that would run some SQL scripts that would do the work of
 the Escalations/Filters?  I imagine we could get better processing times
 out of this.  However, I'm also thinking that this would prevent necessary
 subsequent workflow from firing.  For example, when you perform a Push
 Filed to CTM:People, there is extensive out-of-box workflow that fires and
 updates a bunch of related records.  Pushing values to CTM:People via a SQL
 action would not fire this workflow, correct?  My guess is that it wouldn't
 but I could be wrong as I never tried it.

 .ron

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:13 AM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 The cleanest way you can do this is by using server group feature, from
 your description it seems you are already using that feature.

 I have worked on Windows,Solaris , Linux   environments.
 But your scenario is tricky, as you are mixing  windows arservers with
 solaris arserver.
 I have not seen in the manuals/white papers or  haven't heard before
 people attempting to create 

Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server – Pointers Needed

2012-06-19 Thread Ron Tavares
Hi Vamsi,

I am liking option 1 below which you and Fredrick suggested.  I am not a
java or perl guy, but I'm sure I could find one here to work with.
Question on this; the escalations that are firing are basically setting a
flag field, (which in some cases is just the status field).  That flag
field change then triggers Filter workflow that does all the real work.
(typical Escalation stuff).  My question is; is it enough to have the
java/Perl code simply set the flag and let the Filters continue to do the
work in Remedy?  Or is the benefit only realized if we transfer ALL the
real 'Work' to the java/perl code?

Option 2;  I also like this idea.  There is a lot of OOTB workflow that
fires on push to CTM:People, and I may not need all that to fire for what I
am doing.  (Maybe, mabye not).  I will need to analyse this closer.

Thanks,
.ron

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Ron,
 Remedy has escalations feature to support recurring tasks, it can be used
 to certain extent  for bulk or mass updates.
 But the tool is not very scalable if you are talking about very bulky jobs
 or too many recurring jobs. Though I have not seen many people reaching to
 this extreme but every company is different on how they use remedy.
 So the idea is offload them from escalations as much as possible and still
 be compatible with remedy workings.

 Here are a few things I can think of:

 1. As Frederick mentioned you can create some java or perl programs using
 remedy apis. Embed them in a shell script and call those shell scripts
 using cronjobs or job scheduling tools. Since you are going through remedy
 api all the serverside workflow will still be triggered and all the
 validations and push fields will be perfomed.
 Prefer Java/C as there isn't any active support for ARS Perl. In this way
 though all the load is still be taken care by arserver, esclation has
 nothing to do with this.
 You can build as many arservers as you want and have these scripts connect
 to different arservers. So this can be very scalable.
  Also Remedy ITSM OOTB ignores indexes at several places so  analyze where
 the lag is and try to create indexes where possible.

 2. Another thing you can look into is, use the current mechanism you are
 doing, and where ever possible and you do not need any workflow to be
 triggered during escalation updates, create a filter with RunIF: $USER$ =
 AR Escalator and Action:GoTo 999. This will skip all the workflow during
 escalation runs.

  3. You are correct, any updates directly at SQL level will not fire
 remedy workflow and will be significantly faster as you are removing the
 whole application layer.
 But BMC standing is you will loose the support if you directly touch the
 data. So use it as a last resort and check with them before hand.


 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:02:02 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote:

 **
 Hi Vamsi

 Yes, BMC does raise concern in regards to the mixed OS.  But they have
 not yet told us that is not supported.  I agree that it would be best to be
 on the same OS.  If we get good results with running escalations on
 Solaris, the plan is to eventually move all our ARs to Solaris.

 Yes, we are using escalation pools.  We plan on extending escalation
 pools to some of the out of box escalations as well, once we confirm the
 Solaris box can handle the extra workload.

 The idea of using cronjobs is interesting.  I'm assuming you are talking
 about cronjobs that would run some SQL scripts that would do the work of
 the Escalations/Filters?  I imagine we could get better processing times
 out of this.  However, I'm also thinking that this would prevent necessary
 subsequent workflow from firing.  For example, when you perform a Push
 Filed to CTM:People, there is extensive out-of-box workflow that fires and
 updates a bunch of related records.  Pushing values to CTM:People via a SQL
 action would not fire this workflow, correct?  My guess is that it wouldn't
 but I could be wrong as I never tried it.

 .ron

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:13 AM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 The cleanest way you can do this is by using server group feature, from
 your description it seems you are already using that feature.

 I have worked on Windows,Solaris , Linux   environments.
 But your scenario is tricky, as you are mixing  windows arservers with
 solaris arserver.
 I have not seen in the manuals/white papers or  haven't heard before
 people attempting to create server groups with remedy servers on different
 OS.
 There isn't anything very sticky OS related stuff stored in Remedy
 Metadata, so it may even work, but I am not sure.
 Did you guys check with BMC if this even possible?
 I think the best practice is to have all servers in the group to be of
 same OS and Remedy Version/patch.

 Are you using escalation pools? It will increase the throughput as with
 pools multiple escalations can run parallel.

 Also corporates usually will have some job scheduling tools 

Re: SRM 7.6.03 Entitlement

2012-06-19 Thread Sueli Kanegae
Entitlement are enable, we have few SRD for different companies and it´s 
working just fine, my problem is for Support Staff.

Thanks anyway.

Regards,
Sueli

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Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server - Pointers Needed

2012-06-19 Thread Ben Chernys
Hi Ron,

 

When you use the API (no matter Perl, Java, or Meta-Update) all filters fire
UNLESS you use Merge with the option to inhibit filters.  

So, you do NOT need to code anything but the update of the flag field.

 

If you want to do this with a simple script that you could do yourself - in
about 5 minutes - check out Meta-Update.  In this case, the script would be
about three lines:  the query to select the records, specifying you want to
update the returned records, and the flag assignment.  All without
programming at all.  You could fire it with cron.  It will automatically log
what it did (and capture client logs if desired).

 

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Sent: June-19-12 13:08
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server
- Pointers Needed

 

** 

Hi Vamsi,

 

I am liking option 1 below which you and Fredrick suggested.  I am not a
java or perl guy, but I'm sure I could find one here to work with.  Question
on this; the escalations that are firing are basically setting a flag field,
(which in some cases is just the status field).  That flag field change then
triggers Filter workflow that does all the real work. (typical Escalation
stuff).  My question is; is it enough to have the java/Perl code simply set
the flag and let the Filters continue to do the work in Remedy?  Or is the
benefit only realized if we transfer ALL the real 'Work' to the java/perl
code?

 

Option 2;  I also like this idea.  There is a lot of OOTB workflow that
fires on push to CTM:People, and I may not need all that to fire for what I
am doing.  (Maybe, mabye not).  I will need to analyse this closer.

 

Thanks,

.ron

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

** Ron, 

Remedy has escalations feature to support recurring tasks, it can be used to
certain extent  for bulk or mass updates.

But the tool is not very scalable if you are talking about very bulky jobs
or too many recurring jobs. Though I have not seen many people reaching to
this extreme but every company is different on how they use remedy.

So the idea is offload them from escalations as much as possible and still
be compatible with remedy workings. 

 

Here are a few things I can think of: 

 

1. As Frederick mentioned you can create some java or perl programs using
remedy apis. Embed them in a shell script and call those shell scripts using
cronjobs or job scheduling tools. Since you are going through remedy api all
the serverside workflow will still be triggered and all the validations and
push fields will be perfomed.

Prefer Java/C as there isn't any active support for ARS Perl. In this way
though all the load is still be taken care by arserver, esclation has
nothing to do with this.

You can build as many arservers as you want and have these scripts connect
to different arservers. So this can be very scalable.

 Also Remedy ITSM OOTB ignores indexes at several places so  analyze where
the lag is and try to create indexes where possible. 

 

2. Another thing you can look into is, use the current mechanism you are
doing, and where ever possible and you do not need any workflow to be
triggered during escalation updates, create a filter with RunIF: $USER$ =
AR Escalator and Action:GoTo 999. This will skip all the workflow during
escalation runs.

 

3. You are correct, any updates directly at SQL level will not fire remedy
workflow and will be significantly faster as you are removing the whole
application layer.

But BMC standing is you will loose the support if you directly touch the
data. So use it as a last resort and check with them before hand.

 


On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:02:02 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote: 

** 

Hi Vamsi

 

Yes, BMC does raise concern in regards to the mixed OS.  But they have not
yet told us that is not supported.  I agree that it would be best to be on
the same OS.  If we get good results with running escalations on Solaris,
the plan is to eventually move all our ARs to Solaris.

 

Yes, we are using escalation pools.  We plan on extending escalation pools
to some of the out of box escalations as well, once we confirm the Solaris
box can handle the extra workload.

 

The idea of using cronjobs is interesting.  I'm 

Re: How to set right-to-left in DVF field on service request browser?

2012-06-19 Thread Tim Mccue
Hi Mahendra,

Yes since posting i have learnt  directly from the BMC AM this is not
possible so the compromise is the screenshot I posted or a complete
redesign in AIF.

I assme you found the html in the .jar but it only takes you so far.

Cheers

Tim

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Mahendra Mahalkar 
mahendra.mahal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Dear Tim,
 We raised this to BMC and as per them it is RFE  for such specific
 customization.
 **
 **
 **
 **
 *Regards,*
 *Mahendra Mahalkar
 *



 On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tim Mccue tim.mc...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 All,

 To follow up on this post below and for the arabic/hebrew users out
 there. Has anyone been sucessful in configuring SRM to display Services
 correctly using Right to Left format. So that the when a standard SRD
 (question and mapping) is displayed the arabic/hebrew text is displayed
  right justified
 menus/fields for response to the left



 On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Mahendra Mahalkar 
 mahendra.mahal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Dear All,

 Our client requires SRM configuration in arabic locale. Services are
 configured in arabic locale but in service request browser,
 service/requester details are displayed left-to-right instead of
 right-to-left as attached.

 In BMC AR System Integration Document it is given as ---

 If you create a DVF and you want to create different contents based on
 text direction, extract the text direction from

 PluginContext . (Because the DVF cannot determine your intent regarding
 text direction, you must add the text direction to your HTML content
 for the DVF [for example, by using the html dir='rtl' option].)

 To extract the text direction, use the 
 com.remedy.arsys.plugincontainer.ARLocaleServiceProperties
 interface through the public String getProperty(String key, String
 defvalue); method.

 Following is a simple example for extracting the text direction from the 
 PluginContext
 object given

 com.remedy.arsys.plugincontainer.PluginContext pc;

 ARLocaleServiceProperties p =

 (ARLocaleServiceProperties)pc.getLocaleService();

 boolean isRTL = false;

 String val = p.getProperty(rtl, false);

 if (val.equalsIgnoreCase(true))

 isRTL = true;

 But my concern is where can I find the html used in DVF fields? Also
 plugincontainer.jar file?
 *Regards,*
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Re: Need guidance for indentifying the correct cmdb classes and relationships.

2012-06-19 Thread Jiri Pospisil
Hi,

The general answer is that you should design the data layout according to your 
needs, i.e. are you considering using SW license management in Asset Management 
module, what reports you are intending to create etc.
To answer your specific questions I can provide the following answers (based on 
how ADDM data gets transferred to CMDB, so assume it is consistent with how the 
CMDB model is intended to be used):

1.  I think you got the classes spot on (there is a Data Modelling Guide 
document available which might also help in case you did not use it)

2.  A separate CI in IP EndPoint class and then use HostedAccessPoint 
relationship

3.  See above. For installed SW, OS and CPU CIs you can use Hosted System 
Component relationship (requires System Name attribute to be populated on the 
related CIs).

4.  One instance per installation with the CI name set as combination of SW 
product (or OS) and host name (as you have it) and then use the Product Name to 
define what the product is and to search for all instances of the given 
product/OS.

Hope this helps

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Subject: Need guidance for indentifying the correct cmdb classes and 
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**
CMDB gurus,
We are trying to do a proto type on Atrium CDMB.
Need guidance for indentifying the correct cmdb classes and relationships.
I took an example of our remedy system and trying to represent it in CDMB.
Attahced the spreadsheet with class information I identified so far.

Basic info about our remedy system:
Two Midtiers loadbalanced(RemedyWeb1,RemedyWeb2) hosted on two virtual machines 
WebVM1,WebVM2.
Two ARServers loadbalanced(RemedyAPP1,RemedyAPP2) hosted on two virtual 
machines AppVM1,AppVM2 as a server group.
Oracle Database installed on two virtual servers as cluster. DBVM1, DBVM2.
Loadbalanced VIPs are WebVIP1, AppVIP1 for web and app layers.
All the servers are on Linux. Tomcat is installed for Web.
App Servers have ARServer, Atrium, ITSM, Email Engine components.
All the VMs are carved out of a big  physical server.

Questions I have so far:
1. What are the classes that I need to user for
ARServer, Atrium, ITSM, Email Engine, Oracle Instance, Tomcat, Miditer?
The relevent classes I can think of are BMC_Product, BMC_Application, 
BMC_Application Service.
2. For the IP Address of each server, should we store it as an attribute to 
computer system or as a relationship?
3. What are the different relationship types that are in play here?
4. Do I need to create one instance per linux install or just create one 
generic linux instance and relate it to all VMs or
do not even create a linux CI, just store it as an attribute on the 
computer system class?
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Estimated Completion

2012-06-19 Thread Brittain, Mark
Hi All,

Currently I am on ARS 6.3 with custom forms for Incident and Change Management. 
In the near future we'll me moving to 7.6 and the ITSM Suite but in the mean 
time I have to handle requests for new fields.

Either on your custom forms or within ITSM does anyone have a field like 
%Complete (0,25,50,75,100) or Estimated Completion Date? If so, does it really 
get used? I have a request for this on our Change Management form however this 
sounds like a Task in MS Outlook and my expectation is that no one is going to 
fill it out.

Any insight much appreciated.

Thanks
Mark

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Re: SRM menu options - importing values

2012-06-19 Thread Logan, Kelly
I should have been more specific, John, thanks for clarifying – I want to be 
able to update menus attached to Request fields. It seems like the ‘library’ 
should be a good option, but I’m not seeing much documentation on it so I what 
I would like to know is if anyone has tried to manage by importing items 
directly and if there are any ‘gotcha’s like data that is kept in a secondary 
form that has to be coordinated.

For example, I have a field that will be in several forms like “Salary Grade” 
that is not currently in the ITSM data, and I want to load menu items for it. I 
type them in to the question definition on the ‘Question Management’ form, and 
hit ‘Update Library’ to create a standard “Salary Grade” question and menu. A 
month later, several new salary grades are created. I would like to be able to 
import the new items into the system to add the new menu items automatically.

There are several fields/menus like this and I’d like to keep them up to date 
with an automated feed. I’d prefer to use the ‘Library’ since it’s already 
available and would not require creating an extra form to query. So that’s why 
I was wondering if anyone else had tried.


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Do you mean to be able to search by Job code to find a service item?

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There are some menu options that I would like to have available for Service 
Requests like Salary Grade, Job Code, etc. How difficult is it to manage the 
menu options library? Can you import/update items directly? I would prefer to 
work within the system than add another form just for these menu items and then 
query it.

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Re: SRM menu options - importing values

2012-06-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
Kelly,
I think you should be OK because instead of going through the SRD question
creation process, you can go to App Admin console, Custom, Service Request
Management, Application Configuration, and then Define Questions Library.
That opens up the form: SRM:QuestionDef_Template
If you manually enter a question and run logging, you should be able to see
if there are any Push Fields actions to any other supporting form. I don't
really think there is but I could be wrong. If there isn't, I don't see why
you wouldn't be able to import questions to this. I am just not sure where
the static menu options are stored.
Hope this helps a little bit.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Logan, Kelly kelly.lo...@proquest.comwrote:

 **

 I should have been more specific, John, thanks for clarifying – I want to
 be able to update menus attached to Request fields. It seems like the
 ‘library’ should be a good option, but I’m not seeing much documentation on
 it so I what I would like to know is if anyone has tried to manage by
 importing items directly and if there are any ‘gotcha’s like data that is
 kept in a secondary form that has to be coordinated.

 ** **

 For example, I have a field that will be in several forms like “Salary
 Grade” that is not currently in the ITSM data, and I want to load menu
 items for it. I type them in to the question definition on the ‘Question
 Management’ form, and hit ‘Update Library’ to create a standard “Salary
 Grade” question and menu. A month later, several new salary grades are
 created. I would like to be able to import the new items into the system to
 add the new menu items automatically. 

 ** **

 There are several fields/menus like this and I’d like to keep them up to
 date with an automated feed. I’d prefer to use the ‘Library’ since it’s
 already available and would not require creating an extra form to query. So
 that’s why I was wondering if anyone else had tried.

 ** **

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 manage the menu options library? Can you import/update items directly? I
 would prefer to work within the system than add another form just for these
 menu items and then query it.

  

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Re: making use of itsm breadcrumbs with custom bolt on apps

2012-06-19 Thread Goodall, Andrew C
Thanks so much for the detailed reply.

 

Regards,

 

Andrew C. Goodall

Software Engineer

Development Services

ago...@jcpenney.com

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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:12 PM
To: arslist@arslist.org
Subject: Re: making use of itsm breadcrumbs with custom bolt on apps

 

** 

Hi,

 

This option works only for the forms opened using the application
navigation panel and works only for the number of forms listed in a
particular field of SHR:LendingConsole form

 

To achieve the same for custom form, first prerequisite is that the
custom application should be accessed from application list

 

After that the name of the forms must be added in a particular field of
SHR:LendingForm. To do this modify the active link SHR:LHP:Init, and go
to second set field action. In this action change the value of
z1D_PanelConfig field and add your form names (for which you want
breadcrumbs) in a given specific format with a semicolon (;) as
delimiter.   

 

Note: While giving the name in the z1D_PanelConfig, please take care of
the values specified with the form. 

 

This is just solution to initiate the work on given problem. Hope this
will help you to lead to the exact solution.

 

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ITSM Support

 

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Subject: making use of itsm breadcrumbs with custom bolt on apps

 

** 

We have several integrations for ITSM which are custom forms. When this
custom integrations are launch from ITSM form launch area (window open
action) then it opens in existing window and you lose the breadcrumbs.

 

One option is obviously to open in a new window, but then people don't
like that either. It would be preferred to make use of the ITSM
breadcrumbs.

 

Has anyone done this - which workflow should we look at, can you
piggyback onto this?

 

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Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Support

Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to 
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented a 
basic version of this functionality that allows to export the content of 
a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but certainly not enough.


Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really 
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to see 
in the CSV file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what 
situations would you like to use CSV documentation?  In short: what are 
your needs.


Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when we can 
already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see all we need to 
in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe

From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Export definitions to CSV file

** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to CSV » 
functionality.  In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented a basic 
version of this functionality that allows to export the content of a grid to a 
CSV file.  This is a start, but certainly not enough. 

Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really useful 
functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to see in the CSV 
file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what situations would you like 
to use CSV documentation?  In short: what are your needs.

Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
kais.albas...@arsmarts.com

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Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

2012-06-19 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

I have a 7.6.04 SP2 system, where I am having inconsistent behaviour in
filters depending on if you are an Admin user or not.

This is an outline of the stuff involved
1. API Call Create Entry
2. Filter makes Service Call
3. Filter performs a Set-Fields from a Table Column, which should always
trigger a table refresh

This is the same workflow as non-admin user, followed by an admin-user
(Demo):
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-nonadmin.html#goto
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-admin.html#goto

I have some times seen strange behaviour inside of filter-service-calls.
This could be related to that.

How is a person to make sure that tables in filters are refreshed properly?

Any comments?

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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Support

Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the 
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.


Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some 
properties of the objects.


Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of all 
the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in 
what circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV 
file, with the name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the 
Notification details.


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when we 
can already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see all 
we need to in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Export definitions to CSV file
** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to 
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented 
a basic version of this functionality that allows to export the 
content of a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but certainly not enough.


Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really 
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to 
see in the CSV file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what 
situations would you like to use CSV documentation?  In short: what 
are your needs.


Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

Kais,

Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But since 
meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I was wondering what 
value it would serve a developer who may already be capable of reading XML.

In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management incapable of 
reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid objects compared with its 
original useful to see what may have been changed on a excel sheet.. This 
actually would be useful to a developer too as once an object has been overlaid 
and changes have been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original 
object – unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous thought 
that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish to cover...

Cheers

Joe

From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Export definitions to CSV file

** Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the result of a 
Search or the result of a Compare operation.

Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some properties 
of the objects.

Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of all the 
notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in what 
circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV file, with the 
name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the Notification details.

Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: 
  ** 

  Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when we can 
already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see all we need to 
in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

  Joe

  From: Support 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
  Subject: Export definitions to CSV file

  ** Hello List,

  At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to CSV » 
functionality.  In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented a basic 
version of this functionality that allows to export the content of a grid to a 
CSV file.  This is a start, but certainly not enough. 

  Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really useful 
functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to see in the CSV 
file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what situations would you like 
to use CSV documentation?  In short: what are your needs.

  Looking forward to hear from you all.

  Kaïs
  kais.albas...@arsmarts.com

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Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

2012-06-19 Thread Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Misi,
I can't speak directly to your situation, but I have seen in the past that 
server table loops don't necessarily refresh the table every time you do 
something with them...I have done loops before where the table has a dynamic 
qualification, and you set the field that makes it dynamic, then utilize the 
table...then within the same transaction, you change that qual, and try again 
and it doesn't necessarily refresh the table even though the qual, and thus the 
contents should change.  Without a 'refresh table' option in filters, I've 
never quite been sure how to get it done.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

Hi,

I have a 7.6.04 SP2 system, where I am having inconsistent behaviour in
filters depending on if you are an Admin user or not.

This is an outline of the stuff involved
1. API Call Create Entry
2. Filter makes Service Call
3. Filter performs a Set-Fields from a Table Column, which should always
trigger a table refresh

This is the same workflow as non-admin user, followed by an admin-user
(Demo):
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-nonadmin.html#goto
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-admin.html#goto

I have some times seen strange behaviour inside of filter-service-calls.
This could be related to that.

How is a person to make sure that tables in filters are refreshed properly?

Any comments?

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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Support

Thanks for your input.

With ARSmarts, we brought it so far that you can:
- compare Overlay with Overlaid
- produce a detailed documentation of the comparison result in HTML
- produce a basic report in CSV (Object Name, Type of difference)

The next question is: what else would be useful ?  What columns would 
you like to see in the CSV doc?


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:48, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Kais,
Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But 
since meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I was 
wondering what value it would serve a developer who may already be 
capable of reading XML.
In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management 
incapable of reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid 
objects compared with its original useful to see what may have been 
changed on a excel sheet.. This actually would be useful to a 
developer too as once an object has been overlaid and changes have 
been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original object – 
unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous thought 
that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish to cover...

Cheers
Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the 
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.


Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some 
properties of the objects.


Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of all 
the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in 
what circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV 
file, with the name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the 
Notification details.


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when 
we can already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see 
all we need to in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Export definitions to CSV file
** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to 
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented 
a basic version of this functionality that allows to export the 
content of a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but certainly not 
enough.


Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really 
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to 
see in the CSV file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what 
situations would you like to use CSV documentation?  In short: what 
are your needs.


Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Sabyson Fernandes
Kais,

Off the top of my head maybe the form information, such as indexes, fields in 
results list and the fields itself (Label, DB Name, data type, entry mode, 
input length and where an enum the actual enum options). It comes in useful 
when you have a seperate team doing reporting and need to provide a data 
dictionary of some sort.

Regards,
Saby




 From: Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Export definitions to CSV file
 

** 
 
Kais,
 
Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But since 
meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I was wondering what 
value it would serve a developer who may already be capable of reading 
XML.
 
In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management incapable 
of reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid objects compared with 
its original useful to see what may have been changed on a excel sheet.. This 
actually would be useful to a developer too as once an object has been overlaid 
and changes have been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original 
object – unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous thought 
that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish to cover...
 
Cheers
 
Joe 
From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Export definitions to CSV file
  ** 
Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read 
XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the 
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.

Finally, we 
would like to offer the possibility to export only some properties of the 
objects.

Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list 
of all the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in 
what circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV file, 
with the name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the Notification 
details.

Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: 
** 
 
Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when we  can 
already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see all we need  to 
in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?
 
Joe 
From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Export definitions to CSV file
  **  Hello List,

At  ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to CSV »  
functionality.  In version 2.8.1  (just released), we implemented a basic 
version of this functionality that  allows to export the content of a grid to 
a CSV file.  This is a start, but certainly not  enough. 

Now, here is where we can use your input: in 
  order to build a really useful functionality,


 we 
  need to know what objects you would like to see in the CSV file?  What 
  properties of what objects ...?  In what situations would you like to use 
  CSV documentation?  In short: what are your needs.

Looking forward 
  to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza

Didn’t know you’ll already created that capacity..

I wonder why BMC developers didn’t think that would be a useful feature to have 
on the Dev Studio itself.

I wonder if there is a plugin available (just like the unsupported one for 
creating overlay of multiple views) where you could retrieve the original 
object from the overlaid.. That would be a so nice to have feature on the Dev 
Studio itself. It would save so much time especially when developers change 
hands or if customization has been more than 5% of all the objects when its 
almost impossible to remember what was changed..

Joe

From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:56 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: Export definitions to CSV file

** Thanks for your input.

With ARSmarts, we brought it so far that you can:
- compare Overlay with Overlaid
- produce a detailed documentation of the comparison result in HTML
- produce a basic report in CSV (Object Name, Type of difference)

The next question is: what else would be useful ?  What columns would you like 
to see in the CSV doc?

Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:48, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: 
  ** 

  Kais,

  Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But since 
meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I was wondering what 
value it would serve a developer who may already be capable of reading XML.

  In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management incapable of 
reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid objects compared with its 
original useful to see what may have been changed on a excel sheet.. This 
actually would be useful to a developer too as once an object has been overlaid 
and changes have been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original 
object – unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous thought 
that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish to cover...

  Cheers

  Joe

  From: Support 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
  Subject: Re: Export definitions to CSV file

  ** Hi Joe,

  Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

  Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the result of 
a Search or the result of a Compare operation.

  Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some 
properties of the objects.

  Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of all the 
notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in what 
circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV file, with the 
name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the Notification details.

  Kaïs

  On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote: 
** 

Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when we can 
already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see all we need to 
in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe

From: Support 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Export definitions to CSV file

** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to CSV » 
functionality.  In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented a basic 
version of this functionality that allows to export the content of a grid to a 
CSV file.  This is a start, but certainly not enough. 

Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really useful 
functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to see in the CSV 
file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what situations would you like 
to use CSV documentation?  In short: what are your needs.

Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
kais.albas...@arsmarts.com

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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Support

Hi Saby,

Interesting request, thank you.

Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 17:01, Sabyson Fernandes wrote:

**
Kais,

Off the top of my head maybe the form information, such as indexes, 
fields in results list and the fields itself (Label, DB Name, data 
type, entry mode, input length and where an enum the actual enum 
options). It comes in useful when you have a seperate team doing 
reporting and need to provide a data dictionary of some sort.


Regards,
Saby


*From:* Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file

**
Kais,
Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But 
since meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I was 
wondering what value it would serve a developer who may already be 
capable of reading XML.
In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management 
incapable of reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid 
objects compared with its original useful to see what may have been 
changed on a excel sheet.. This actually would be useful to a 
developer too as once an object has been overlaid and changes have 
been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original object – 
unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous thought 
that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish to cover...

Cheers
Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the 
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.


Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some 
properties of the objects.


Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of all 
the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to know in 
what circumstances these notifications were sent.  We produced a CSV 
file, with the name of the Filters, the Run If condition, and the 
Notification details.


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when 
we can already output the definition files to XML and pretty much see 
all we need to in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Export definitions to CSV file
** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to 
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we implemented 
a basic version of this functionality that allows to export the 
content of a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but certainly not 
enough.


Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really 
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to 
see in the CSV file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what 
situations would you like to use CSV documentation?  In short: what 
are your needs.


Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Export definitions to CSV file

2012-06-19 Thread Support

DETAIL QUESTION (to Joe, Saby,  and everybody else ;-) ):

Don't you feel the need to select the properties that will be documented 
in the CSV?

Granularity?

Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 17:12, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Didn’t know you’ll already created that capacity..
I wonder why BMC developers didn’t think that would be a useful 
feature to have on the Dev Studio itself.
I wonder if there is a plugin available (just like the unsupported one 
for creating overlay of multiple views) where you could retrieve the 
original object from the overlaid.. That would be a so nice to have 
feature on the Dev Studio itself. It would save so much time 
especially when developers change hands or if customization has been 
more than 5% of all the objects when its almost impossible to remember 
what was changed..

Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:56 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Thanks for your input.

With ARSmarts, we brought it so far that you can:
- compare Overlay with Overlaid
- produce a detailed documentation of the comparison result in HTML
- produce a basic report in CSV (Object Name, Type of difference)

The next question is: what else would be useful ?  What columns would 
you like to see in the CSV doc?


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:48, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Kais,
Got you.. I should have guessed you were aiming it at management. But 
since meta data reports are generally more useful to developers, I 
was wondering what value it would serve a developer who may already 
be capable of reading XML.
In reference to the new version, assuming that I was management 
incapable of reading XML, I might have found a report of overlaid 
objects compared with its original useful to see what may have been 
changed on a excel sheet.. This actually would be useful to a 
developer too as once an object has been overlaid and changes have 
been made, even a developer looses visibility of the original object 
– unless he deletes the overlay... This is my most spontaneous 
thought that came to mind given your explanation on grounds you wish 
to cover...

Cheers
Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:41 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Re: Export definitions to CSV file
** Hi Joe,

Most managers and non-technical people do not read XML.

Also, we are thinking of exporting in CSV format such things as the 
result of a Search or the result of a Compare operation.


Finally, we would like to offer the possibility to export only some 
properties of the objects.


Maybe an example will clear things up: a customer wanted a list of 
all the notifications sent by a Remedy application, and wanted to 
know in what circumstances these notifications were sent.  We 
produced a CSV file, with the name of the Filters, the Run If 
condition, and the Notification details.


Kaïs

On 19/06/2012 16:22, Joe Martin D'Souza wrote:

**
Just curious as to why an output to a CSV would this be useful when 
we can already output the definition files to XML and pretty much 
see all we need to in a fairly decent ‘human readable format’?

Joe
*From:* Support mailto:supp...@arsmarts.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17 AM
*Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
*To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
*Subject:* Export definitions to CSV file
** Hello List,

At ARSmarts, we are currently developing an « Export definitions to 
CSV » functionality. In version 2.8.1 (just released), we 
implemented a basic version of this functionality that allows to 
export the content of a grid to a CSV file.This is a start, but 
certainly not enough.


Now, here is where we can use your input: in order to build a really 
useful functionality, we need to know what objects you would like to 
see in the CSV file?  What properties of what objects ...?  In what 
situations would you like to use CSV documentation?  In short: what 
are your needs.


Looking forward to hear from you all.

Kaïs
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Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

2012-06-19 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi LJ,

Thank you for the input.

In this specific case, the table is never refreshed.

And I am not doing a table loop, just a Set-Fields with a COLSUM().

And the really strange thing is that the behaviour differ depending on the
users permission groups...

I agree that there is need for more control over the filter tables!

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
* RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
* RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Misi,
 I can't speak directly to your situation, but I have seen in the past that
 server table loops don't necessarily refresh the table every time you do
 something with them...I have done loops before where the table has a
 dynamic qualification, and you set the field that makes it dynamic, then
 utilize the table...then within the same transaction, you change that
 qual, and try again and it doesn't necessarily refresh the table even
 though the qual, and thus the contents should change.  Without a 'refresh
 table' option in filters, I've never quite been sure how to get it done.

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
 Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:34 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

 Hi,

 I have a 7.6.04 SP2 system, where I am having inconsistent behaviour in
 filters depending on if you are an Admin user or not.

 This is an outline of the stuff involved
 1. API Call Create Entry
 2. Filter makes Service Call
 3. Filter performs a Set-Fields from a Table Column, which should always
 trigger a table refresh

 This is the same workflow as non-admin user, followed by an admin-user
 (Demo):
 http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-nonadmin.html#goto
 http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-admin.html#goto

 I have some times seen strange behaviour inside of filter-service-calls.
 This could be related to that.

 How is a person to make sure that tables in filters are refreshed
 properly?

 Any comments?

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

 Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10/11):
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 * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
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Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server - Pointers Needed

2012-06-19 Thread Campbell, Paul (Paul)
We do a lot of these actions based on what we call a temp command, where we use 
a display only field (temp_command) and set come kind of value to the field, 
like SET_STATUS, and then have a filter that runs where the 'temp_command' = 
SET_STATUS do the real work, then have a piece of Perl or java code set the 
display only field.  We use a field with the same Field ID for the display only 
field on all of our forms where we want to do this kind of temp command trigger 
and have the form name and value passed as command line parameters so we can 
have one Perl script work on many different forms.  We will call this script in 
an escalation to get the filter processing off the escalation threads and onto 
fast threads.  You could even have your script use private queues if you wanted 
to isolate the activity away from users.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Ron Tavares
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:08 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server - 
Pointers Needed

**
Hi Vamsi,

I am liking option 1 below which you and Fredrick suggested.  I am not a java 
or perl guy, but I'm sure I could find one here to work with.  Question on 
this; the escalations that are firing are basically setting a flag field, 
(which in some cases is just the status field).  That flag field change then 
triggers Filter workflow that does all the real work. (typical Escalation 
stuff).  My question is; is it enough to have the java/Perl code simply set the 
flag and let the Filters continue to do the work in Remedy?  Or is the benefit 
only realized if we transfer ALL the real 'Work' to the java/perl code?

Option 2;  I also like this idea.  There is a lot of OOTB workflow that fires 
on push to CTM:People, and I may not need all that to fire for what I am doing. 
 (Maybe, mabye not).  I will need to analyse this closer.

Thanks,
.ron
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM, patchsk 
vamsi...@gmail.commailto:vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:
** Ron,
Remedy has escalations feature to support recurring tasks, it can be used to 
certain extent  for bulk or mass updates.
But the tool is not very scalable if you are talking about very bulky jobs or 
too many recurring jobs. Though I have not seen many people reaching to this 
extreme but every company is different on how they use remedy.
So the idea is offload them from escalations as much as possible and still be 
compatible with remedy workings.

Here are a few things I can think of:

1. As Frederick mentioned you can create some java or perl programs using 
remedy apis. Embed them in a shell script and call those shell scripts using 
cronjobs or job scheduling tools. Since you are going through remedy api all 
the serverside workflow will still be triggered and all the validations and 
push fields will be perfomed.
Prefer Java/C as there isn't any active support for ARS Perl. In this way 
though all the load is still be taken care by arserver, esclation has nothing 
to do with this.
You can build as many arservers as you want and have these scripts connect to 
different arservers. So this can be very scalable.
 Also Remedy ITSM OOTB ignores indexes at several places so  analyze where the 
lag is and try to create indexes where possible.

2. Another thing you can look into is, use the current mechanism you are doing, 
and where ever possible and you do not need any workflow to be triggered during 
escalation updates, create a filter with RunIF: $USER$ = AR Escalator and 
Action:GoTo 999. This will skip all the workflow during escalation runs.

3. You are correct, any updates directly at SQL level will not fire remedy 
workflow and will be significantly faster as you are removing the whole 
application layer.
But BMC standing is you will loose the support if you directly touch the data. 
So use it as a last resort and check with them before hand.


On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:02:02 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote:
**
Hi Vamsi

Yes, BMC does raise concern in regards to the mixed OS.  But they have not yet 
told us that is not supported.  I agree that it would be best to be on the same 
OS.  If we get good results with running escalations on Solaris, the plan is to 
eventually move all our ARs to Solaris.

Yes, we are using escalation pools.  We plan on extending escalation pools to 
some of the out of box escalations as well, once we confirm the Solaris box can 
handle the extra workload.

The idea of using cronjobs is interesting.  I'm assuming you are talking about 
cronjobs that would run some SQL scripts that would do the work of the 
Escalations/Filters?  I imagine we could get better processing times out of 
this.  However, I'm also thinking that this would prevent necessary subsequent 
workflow from firing.  For example, when you perform a Push Filed to 
CTM:People, there is extensive out-of-box workflow that fires and updates a 
bunch of related records.  Pushing values to 

Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread patrick zandi
Well,
So far it is only a Trail offer..  sniff sniff  David? got any clues
for us...


wondering why? just a trial and not offered ... based on all I have been
reading from the Stock reports.. BMC says they are doing fine.. which would
say to me.. then offer it to the audience who is using ITSM.. as a tool,
and anyone else as a charge (while the support money is flowing)..
otherwise pay up..

I have not seen anything on this yet..  official money cost or otherwise..
I would say.. Give it free, add to the support a little ($) fee if needed
in the rears...


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Kelly Deaver kdea...@kellydeaver.comwrote:

 **
 I just happened on this..

 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement

 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it
 or will there be an upcharge?


 BTW - Good move BMC!

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation
 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 kelly.dea...@unisys.com kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business mail)



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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread Rob Dudley
Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
find...but it's there
On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

 Joe

  *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

 **
 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without
 an upcharge, yes.   

 

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

 

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 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

 

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to
 it or will there be an upcharge?

 

 

 BTW - Good move BMC!

 

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 Unisys Corporation

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 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business
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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread patrick zandi
name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service Management
- process designer

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
 find...but it's there
 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

 Joe

  *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

 **
 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) 
 without
 an upcharge, yes.   

 

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

 

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
 in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

 

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to
 it or will there be an upcharge?

 

 

 BTW - Good move BMC!

 

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business
 mail)




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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread Easter, David
[cid:image001.png@01CD4DFE.40C8DD30]

EPD is configured to show only what you have under contract.  If you did not 
purchase the ITSM Suite (i.e. you purchased individual products under legacy 
pricing), that may be why you are not seeing it.  It's inside the Suite itself 
and available only to Suite customers.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, AR System
BSM  Atrium Solutions Management
BMC Software, Inc.

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E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:22 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Abydos is now BMC

** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service Management - 
process designer
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley 
duds1...@gmail.commailto:duds1...@gmail.com wrote:
**

Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to 
find...but it's there
On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza 
jdso...@shyle.netmailto:jdso...@shyle.net wrote:
**

By 'no upcharge' what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

Joe

From: patrick zandimailto:remedy...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Abydos is now BMC

**
Can I get mine now?
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David 
david_eas...@bmc.commailto:david_eas...@bmc.com wrote:
**
Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are tentatively 
expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer product (now the 
BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without an upcharge, yes.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this 
E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My voluntary 
participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, 
liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kelly 
Deaver
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGmailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Abydos is now BMC

**
I just happened on this..
http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement

Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it or 
will there be an upcharge?


BTW - Good move BMC!

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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread Rob Dudley
If you expand BMC Remedy IT Service Management Suite 7.6.04...scroll down
you will see it right after SLM
On Jun 19, 2012 12:22 PM, patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
 I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
 I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

 is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
 give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service
 Management - process designer

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough
 to find...but it's there
 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

 **

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

 Joe

  *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM
 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

 **
 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) 
 without
 an upcharge, yes.   

 

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

 

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
 in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

 

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to
 it or will there be an upcharge?

 

 

 BTW - Good move BMC!

 

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business
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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread patrick zandi
I am talking to my BMC rep now.. thanks..
Cause I know we bought ITSM suite, but it is not there, and while contracts
were moved, and migrated, there is some mixup.. .. somewhere.
hopefully not on my side..  8-)


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 

 ** **

 EPD is configured to show only what you have under contract.  If you did
 not purchase the ITSM Suite (i.e. you purchased individual products under
 legacy pricing), that may be why you are not seeing it.  It’s inside the
 Suite itself and available only to Suite customers.

 ** **

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:22 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  ** **

 ** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer

 I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
 I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

 is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
 give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service
 Management - process designer

  On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 ** 

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
 find...but it's there

 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:**
 **

 ** 

  

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

  

 Joe

  

 *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without
 an upcharge, yes.   

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it
 or will there be an upcharge?

  

  

 BTW - Good move BMC!

  

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business mail)
 




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Re: SRM 7.6.03 Entitlement

2012-06-19 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

In 7.6.03 by default the Status of Entitlement Rule is disabled. So we have to 
enable it in order to apply the entitlement rule for specific SRD's and User's. 

We can enable it from Application Administration Console - Custom 
Configuration tab - Service Request Management - Entitlement - Entitlement 
Management - Enabled or Disabled.  


Now, if we change the entitlement rules on an existing SRD, we must flush the 
entitlement cache. 

We can flush entitlement cache from Application Administration Console - 
Custom Configuration tab - Service Request Management - Entitlement - 
Entitlement Management - Other Functions - User Validation - Flush 
Entitlement Cache

HTH

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sueli Kanegae
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: SRM 7.6.03 Entitlement

Dear Listeners,

I have an issue about the same subject.
For me '100025' = “Yes” would be ok but it´s not working
Everyone can see the specific SRD I´ve created, even when I validate diferent 
users they have diferent Entitlement Rules.
There is something missing or wrong and I don´t know what it is, any suggestion?

TIA,
Sueli

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Re: OOB SR 7.6 form data.

2012-06-19 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

 

After submitting request from request entry console data would get stored in
SRM:Request form and if you have configured questions, those questions would
be stored in SRD:MultipleQuestionResponse form.

 

HTH

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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: OOB SR 7.6 form data.

 

** Hello everyone, 

Does anyone have an idea where the data saved on and OOB SR  in the request
form is saved.?

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Re: Issues while searching for a ticket in the INCIDENT console

2012-06-19 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi,

 

This kind of operation query like ['Summary*' LIKE %CJ%] means searching
with special character uses Full Text Search Operation. 

 

Please go to Service Information- FTS tab, and verify FTS Configuration and
FTS Collation path.

 

If ARS is installed on C: Drive, the default path for FTS Collection and
Configuration are as follows

 

FTS Collection: C:\Program Files\BMC
Software\ARSystem\ftsconfiguration\collection

 

FTS Configuration: C:\Program Files\BMC
Software\ARSystem\ftsconfiguration\conf

 

If these directories are on other location please mention the correct
location in the given fields.

 

Also check if FTS Indexer is not disabled.

 

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sam Anderson
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:20 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Issues while searching for a ticket in the INCIDENT console

 

** 

Hi All,

 

Has anyone faced the below mentioned issue while searching for an incident
in the incident console in Remedy - 7.6.03.

 User is getting the below error when he tries to run the following
qualification:

 = company name

('Status*'  Resolved)AND  (  ('Priority*' = Critical AND ('11'
= x OR '11' =  x  OR '11'=  x ))   OR
('Priority*' = High AND ('11' =  x  OR '11' = 
x )) )  AND  ('Summary*' LIKE %CJ%) 

 cid:image001.png@01CD49AF.AD79D680

When the above qualification is searched without the value ('Summary*' LIKE
%CJ%) results are displayed. 

  




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Re: Estimated Completion

2012-06-19 Thread patchsk
OOTB the following fields are available on ChangeTkt.
Target Date
Scheduled End Date
Actual End Date
Requested End Date

Seems like you can use Target Date for your Estimated Completion Date.

These are used for CAB approval, SLAs and reporting purpose.


On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:59:34 AM UTC-7, Remedy_Mark wrote:

 ** 
  
 Hi All,

  

 Currently I am on ARS 6.3 with custom forms for Incident and Change 
 Management. In the near future we’ll me moving to 7.6 and the ITSM Suite 
 but in the mean time I have to handle requests for new fields.

  

 Either on your custom forms or within ITSM does anyone have a field like 
 %Complete (0,25,50,75,100) or Estimated Completion Date? If so, does it 
 really get used? I have a request for this on our Change Management form 
 however this sounds like a Task in MS Outlook and my expectation is that no 
 one is going to fill it out. 

  

 Any insight much appreciated.

  

 Thanks

 Mark

  

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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread ITSM.Support
Hi Patrick,

 

You can find it here: but it requires registration and as of now 'Abydos
Designer' is not available for download but all documents related to 'Abydos
Designer' are available for download

 

http://www.abydos-workflow.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Abydos is now BMC

 

** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
I have also searched process designer  and Zero again.. 

is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either.. 
give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service Management
- process designer

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:

** 

Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
find...but it's there

On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:

** 

 

By 'no upcharge' what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

 

Joe

 

From: patrick mailto:remedy...@gmail.com  zandi 

Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM

Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

Subject: Re: Abydos is now BMC

 

** 

Can I get mine now?

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com wrote:

** 

Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer)
without an upcharge, yes.   

 

-David J. Easter

Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

BMC Software, Inc.

 

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this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
Inc.

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kelly Deaver
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Abydos is now BMC

 

** 

I just happened on this..

http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_
acorn_announcement


Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it
or will there be an upcharge?

 

 

BTW - Good move BMC!

 

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Unisys Corporation

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Re: Configuring a Solaris 10 server to run as an Escalation server – Pointers Needed

2012-06-19 Thread patchsk
Hi Ron, 
Yes you are on the right track. You can just have the flag set by script 
instead of escalation and rest is same.
As for the other options you are wondering to keep filters as it is or put 
the logic into the script, it is about the balance between performance gain 
and maintainability of the code.By transferring all the logic into a script 
rather than having it as  filters  I am not sure how much performance gain 
you can get because at the end both do the same api calls.

Coming to People records update taking too long, In the recent versions 
remedy has put some features like when you create a people record it will 
create a BMC_Person CI also and then keeps them in sync. If you are not 
really using BMC_Person CI then you can disable this feature and you may 
see some performance improvement. Lot of companies do not use,  but it is 
provided out of the box.
There is a KB in BMC Support on how to disable it.


On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:07:58 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote:

 ** 
 Hi Vamsi,
  
 I am liking option 1 below which you and Fredrick suggested.  I am not a 
 java or perl guy, but I'm sure I could find one here to work with.  
 Question on this; the escalations that are firing are basically setting a 
 flag field, (which in some cases is just the status field).  That flag 
 field change then triggers Filter workflow that does all the real work. 
 (typical Escalation stuff).  My question is; is it enough to have the 
 java/Perl code simply set the flag and let the Filters continue to do the 
 work in Remedy?  Or is the benefit only realized if we transfer ALL the 
 real 'Work' to the java/perl code?
  
 Option 2;  I also like this idea.  There is a lot of OOTB workflow that 
 fires on push to CTM:People, and I may not need all that to fire for what I 
 am doing.  (Maybe, mabye not).  I will need to analyse this closer.
  
 Thanks,
 .ron

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM, patchsk vamsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 ** Ron, 
 Remedy has escalations feature to support recurring tasks, it can be used 
 to certain extent  for bulk or mass updates.
 But the tool is not very scalable if you are talking about very bulky 
 jobs or too many recurring jobs. Though I have not seen many people 
 reaching to this extreme but every company is different on how they use 
 remedy.
 So the idea is offload them from escalations as much as possible and 
 still be compatible with remedy workings. 

 Here are a few things I can think of: 

 1. As Frederick mentioned you can create some java or perl programs using 
 remedy apis. Embed them in a shell script and call those shell scripts 
 using cronjobs or job scheduling tools. Since you are going through remedy 
 api all the serverside workflow will still be triggered and all the 
 validations and push fields will be perfomed.
 Prefer Java/C as there isn't any active support for ARS Perl. In this way 
 though all the load is still be taken care by arserver, esclation has 
 nothing to do with this.
 You can build as many arservers as you want and have these scripts 
 connect to different arservers. So this can be very scalable.
  Also Remedy ITSM OOTB ignores indexes at several places so  analyze 
 where the lag is and try to create indexes where possible. 

 2. Another thing you can look into is, use the current mechanism you are 
 doing, and where ever possible and you do not need any workflow to be 
 triggered during escalation updates, create a filter with RunIF: $USER$ = 
 AR Escalator and Action:GoTo 999. This will skip all the workflow during 
 escalation runs.

  3. You are correct, any updates directly at SQL level will not fire 
 remedy workflow and will be significantly faster as you are removing the 
 whole application layer.
 But BMC standing is you will loose the support if you directly touch the 
 data. So use it as a last resort and check with them before hand.
  

 On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:02:02 AM UTC-7, Ron Tavares wrote: 

 ** 
 Hi Vamsi
  
 Yes, BMC does raise concern in regards to the mixed OS.  But they have 
 not yet told us that is not supported.  I agree that it would be best to be 
 on the same OS.  If we get good results with running escalations on 
 Solaris, the plan is to eventually move all our ARs to Solaris.
  
 Yes, we are using escalation pools.  We plan on extending escalation 
 pools to some of the out of box escalations as well, once we confirm the 
 Solaris box can handle the extra workload.
  
 The idea of using cronjobs is interesting.  I'm assuming you are talking 
 about cronjobs that would run some SQL scripts that would do the work of 
 the Escalations/Filters?  I imagine we could get better processing times 
 out of this.  However, I'm also thinking that this would prevent necessary 
 subsequent workflow from firing.  For example, when you perform a Push 
 Filed to CTM:People, there is extensive out-of-box workflow that fires and 
 updates a bunch of related records.  Pushing values to CTM:People via a SQL 
 action 

Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

2012-06-19 Thread Matthew Sibley
   

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- Original Message -
From: Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC [mailto:lj.longwing@mda.mil]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 03:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

Misi,
I can't speak directly to your situation, but I have seen in the past that 
server table loops don't necessarily refresh the table every time you do 
something with them...I have done loops before where the table has a dynamic 
qualification, and you set the field that makes it dynamic, then utilize the 
table...then within the same transaction, you change that qual, and try again 
and it doesn't necessarily refresh the table even though the qual, and thus the 
contents should change.  Without a 'refresh table' option in filters, I've 
never quite been sure how to get it done.

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...

Hi,

I have a 7.6.04 SP2 system, where I am having inconsistent behaviour in
filters depending on if you are an Admin user or not.

This is an outline of the stuff involved
1. API Call Create Entry
2. Filter makes Service Call
3. Filter performs a Set-Fields from a Table Column, which should always
trigger a table refresh

This is the same workflow as non-admin user, followed by an admin-user
(Demo):
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-nonadmin.html#goto
http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-admin.html#goto

I have some times seen strange behaviour inside of filter-service-calls.
This could be related to that.

How is a person to make sure that tables in filters are refreshed properly?

Any comments?

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)

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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread Susan Palmer
Interesting ... so if we have owned it for numerous years and we're not an
ITSM Suite owner does that mean it will no longer be available for us.
What if we get a new  PC which requires a new license key.  I have received
a letter notification from BMC but it was vague about those kinds of
details.

Thanks,
Susan

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 

 ** **

 EPD is configured to show only what you have under contract.  If you did
 not purchase the ITSM Suite (i.e. you purchased individual products under
 legacy pricing), that may be why you are not seeing it.  It’s inside the
 Suite itself and available only to Suite customers.

 ** **

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:22 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  ** **

 ** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
 I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
 I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

 is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
 give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service
 Management - process designer

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 ** 

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
 find...but it's there

 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:**
 **

 ** 

  

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

  

 Joe

  

 *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without
 an upcharge, yes.   

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it
 or will there be an upcharge?

  

  

 BTW - Good move BMC!

  

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business mail)
 




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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread patrick zandi
ROFL

.. BMC .. it should be right there..
Go here.. uh huh,   Well it has to be here... Uh huh,

you send them a picture.. Oh... Ahh... Huh?
Well, ummm.

I get back with you...


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Susan Palmer suzanpal...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 Interesting ... so if we have owned it for numerous years and we're not an
 ITSM Suite owner does that mean it will no longer be available for us.
 What if we get a new  PC which requires a new license key.  I have received
 a letter notification from BMC but it was vague about those kinds of
 details.

 Thanks,
 Susan

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.comwrote:

 **

 

 ** **

 EPD is configured to show only what you have under contract.  If you did
 not purchase the ITSM Suite (i.e. you purchased individual products under
 legacy pricing), that may be why you are not seeing it.  It’s inside the
 Suite itself and available only to Suite customers.

 ** **

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:22 AM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  ** **

 ** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
 I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
 I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

 is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
 give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service
 Management - process designer

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 ** 

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough
 to find...but it's there

 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:*
 ***

 ** 

  

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

  

 Joe

  

 *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without
 an upcharge, yes.   

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to
 it or will there be an upcharge?

  

  

 BTW - Good move BMC!

  

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business
 mail)




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Re: Abydos is now BMC

2012-06-19 Thread patrick zandi
its a mixup in the cards.. I am sure..  no biggy, I kept wondering when it
comes out..


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com wrote:

 **

 To the best of my knowledge, existing maintenance contracts originally
 negotiated with Abydos will continue to be honored until their expiration.
 

 ** **

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Susan Palmer
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:51 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  ** **

 ** 

 Interesting ... so if we have owned it for numerous years and we're not an
 ITSM Suite owner does that mean it will no longer be available for us.
 What if we get a new  PC which requires a new license key.  I have received
 a letter notification from BMC but it was vague about those kinds of
 details.

  

 Thanks,

 Susan

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 

  

 EPD is configured to show only what you have under contract.  If you did
 not purchase the ITSM Suite (i.e. you purchased individual products under
 legacy pricing), that may be why you are not seeing it.  It’s inside the
 Suite itself and available only to Suite customers.

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, AR System

 BSM  Atrium Solutions Management

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:22 AM 


 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** name should be BMC Remedy IT Service Management - process designer
 I have searched the master / and the patched..  Zero...
 I have also searched process designer  and Zero again..

 is it under ITSM stuff.. --- I do not see it there either..
 give me a name.. is it called as above ?   BMC Remedy IT Service
 Management - process designer

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Rob Dudley duds1...@gmail.com wrote:**
 **

 ** 

 Yes...it's included in the 7.6 release and it's on the epd...just tough to
 find...but it's there

 On Apr 23, 2012 5:48 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza jdso...@shyle.net wrote:**
 **

 ** 

  

 By ‘no upcharge’ what do you mean.. The 4 letter word free??

  

 Joe

  

 *From:* patrick zandi remedy...@gmail.com 

 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 5:41 PM

 *Newsgroups:* public.remedy.arsystem.general

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 

 *Subject:* Re: Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 Can I get mine now?

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Easter, David david_eas...@bmc.com
 wrote:

 ** 

 Current (i.e. on the latest version) owners of the ITSM Suite are
 tentatively expected to have entitlement to what was known as the Designer
 product (now the BMC Remedy IT Service Management - Process Designer) without
 an upcharge, yes.   

  

 -David J. Easter

 Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform

 BMC Software, Inc.

  

 The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
 this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
 voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
 spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
 Inc.

  

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Deaver
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:34 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Abydos is now BMC

  

 ** 

 I just happened on this..


 http://www.bmc.com/products/brand/abydos.html?intcmp=home_announcement_corp_acorn_announcement
 


 Now the big question.. are all the current ITSM Suite owners entited to it
 or will there be an upcharge?

  

  

 BTW - Good move BMC!

  

 Kelly Deaver
 Unisys Corporation

 kdea...@kellydeaver.com (ARSlist mail)
 mailto:kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov kelly.ctr.dea...@faa.gov (Business mail)
 




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To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Jose Huerta
Hi listers,

How difficult is to become a BMC partner?

Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their
partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their
partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you
a road-map to demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior Channel
Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a month ago
until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems that they
have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This is frustrating.
I'm selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to continue on the
Remedy way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community. I conforming a
team of developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing.

Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what
other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact
one big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the
product was a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment
made by other partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing
it to their needs and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about
What needs to be done to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to
obtain a telephone call from the channel manager or anyone that can talk
about partnership?

Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can
write our wishes and prays...

Regards,

Jose Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/

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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Tauf Chowdhury
I'm no expert but I'm sure it comes down to dollars. They want to know how
much you make and how much you can make for them. That, coupled with how
many certified people you have and probably other financially driven
factors will probably determine if you're a candidate.
I suppose at the end of the day, it's business so remember that an don't
take it personal. I'm sure they all appreciate your love for the product.
Just my 2 cents.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es wrote:

** Hi listers,

How difficult is to become a BMC partner?

Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their
partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their
partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you
a road-map to demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior Channel
Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a month ago
until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems that they
have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This is frustrating.
I'm selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to continue on the
Remedy way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community. I conforming a
team of developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing.

Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what
other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact
one big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the
product was a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment
made by other partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing
it to their needs and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about
What needs to be done to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to
obtain a telephone call from the channel manager or anyone that can talk
about partnership?

Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can
write our wishes and prays...

Regards,

Jose Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/
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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Joe Martin D'Souza
They used to have quarterly sales targets (back in the Remedy Corporation 
days). I suspect BMC Software to be no different.

They used to be called VARs (Value Added Resellers). VARs were primarily 
responsible for tech support towards their customers, and if they could not 
resolve their customer issues, then were allowed to raise a ticket with Remedy 
Support... Remedy Corporation did do some sort of a ‘credit check’ on you as a 
company to see what your standing is financially to make that kind of a 
commitment to them. But that again was Remedy Corporation – this now is BMC 
Software that may be playing by different rules..

Joe

From: Tauf Chowdhury 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:49 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

** 
I'm no expert but I'm sure it comes down to dollars. They want to know how much 
you make and how much you can make for them. That, coupled with how many 
certified people you have and probably other financially driven factors will 
probably determine if you're a candidate. 
I suppose at the end of the day, it's business so remember that an don't take 
it personal. I'm sure they all appreciate your love for the product. 
Just my 2 cents. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es wrote:


  ** Hi listers, 

  How difficult is to become a BMC partner? 

  Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their 
partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their 
partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you a road-map to 
demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

  Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior Channel 
Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a month ago 
until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems that they 
have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This is frustrating. I'm 
selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to continue on the Remedy 
way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community. I conforming a team of 
developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing. 

  Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what 
other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact one 
big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the product was 
a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment made by other 
partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing it to their needs 
and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about What needs to be done 
to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to obtain a telephone call from 
the channel manager or anyone that can talk about partnership?

  Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can 
write our wishes and prays...

  Regards,

  Jose Huerta
  http://theremedyforit.com/

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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Sanford, Claire
Back in the dark days...  the bigblackuglybird days... they just wanted your 
money to become a partner...  One person told me they just had to pay P $10K 
and they were a partner.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

**
I'm no expert but I'm sure it comes down to dollars. They want to know how much 
you make and how much you can make for them. That, coupled with how many 
certified people you have and probably other financially driven factors will 
probably determine if you're a candidate.
I suppose at the end of the day, it's business so remember that an don't take 
it personal. I'm sure they all appreciate your love for the product.
Just my 2 cents.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Jose Huerta 
jose.hue...@sm2baleares.esmailto:jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es wrote:
** Hi listers,

How difficult is to become a BMC partner?

Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their 
partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their 
partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you a road-map to 
demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior Channel 
Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a month ago 
until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems that they 
have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This is frustrating. I'm 
selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to continue on the Remedy 
way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community. I conforming a team of 
developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing.

Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what 
other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact one 
big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the product was 
a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment made by other 
partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing it to their needs 
and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about What needs to be done 
to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to obtain a telephone call from 
the channel manager or anyone that can talk about partnership?

Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can 
write our wishes and prays...

Regards,

Jose Huerta
http://theremedyforit.com/
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[no subject]

2012-06-19 Thread Phil Murnane
http://www.desigui.com/blog/wp-content/themes/default/googles.html

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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Jose Huerta
You're kidding me!




On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:28 PM, John Sundberg 
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com wrote:

 ** Hmmm

 They asked us for $35,000.

 -John



 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Sanford, Claire 
 claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org wrote:

 **

 Back in the “dark days”…  the bigblackuglybird days… they just wanted
 your money to become a partner…  One person told me they just had to pay
 “P” $10K and they were a partner.

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:49 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

 ** **

 ** 

 I'm no expert but I'm sure it comes down to dollars. They want to know
 how much you make and how much you can make for them. That, coupled with
 how many certified people you have and probably other financially driven
 factors will probably determine if you're a candidate. 

 I suppose at the end of the day, it's business so remember that an don't
 take it personal. I'm sure they all appreciate your love for the product.
 

 Just my 2 cents.

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Jun 19, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Jose Huerta jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es
 wrote:

  ** Hi listers,

 ** **

 How difficult is to become a BMC partner? 

 ** **

 Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their
 partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their
 partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you
 a road-map to demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

 ** **

 Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior
 Channel Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a
 month ago until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems
 that they have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This
 is frustrating. I'm selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to
 continue on the Remedy way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community.
 I conforming a team of developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing. 

 ** **

 Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating
 what other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In
 fact one big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that
 the product was a completely failure, and this was only because the
 deployment made by other partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it,
 customizing it to their needs and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not
 asking about What needs to be done to become a partner, but, what needs to
 be done to obtain a telephone call from the channel manager or anyone that
 can talk about partnership?

 ** **

 Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we
 can write our wishes and prays...

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Jose Huerta

 http://theremedyforit.com/ 

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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Joel Sender
This may explain the silence:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/

 

Joel

Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jose Huerta
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: To be or not to be a BMC partner

 

** Hi listers,

 

How difficult is to become a BMC partner? 

 

Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their 
partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their 
partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you a road-map to 
demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

 

Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior Channel 
Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a month ago 
until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems that they 
have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This is frustrating. I'm 
selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to continue on the Remedy 
way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community. I conforming a team of 
developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing. 

 

Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what 
other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact one 
big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the product was 
a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment made by other 
partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing it to their needs 
and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about What needs to be done 
to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to obtain a telephone call from 
the channel manager or anyone that can talk about partnership?

 

Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can 
write our wishes and prays...

 

Regards,

 

Jose Huerta

http://theremedyforit.com/ 

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Re: To be or not to be a BMC partner

2012-06-19 Thread Jason Miller
Hopefully we are not wearing black and bringing flowers to WWRUG12. :(

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Joel Sender jdsen...@earthlink.net wrote:

 **

 This may explain the silence:

 http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/infrastructure/240002100


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bmc-software-responds-to-elliott-managements-letter-2012-05-21
 


 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/elliott-files-definitive-proxy-statement-for-bmc-software-2012-06-14
 


 http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/06/12/bmc-software-fights-back-against-elliott-says-its-not-for-sale/
 

 ** **

 *Joel***

 Joel Senderjdsen...@earthlink.net310.829.5552

 ** **

 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jose Huerta
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:39 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* To be or not to be a BMC partner

 ** **

 ** Hi listers,

 ** **

 How difficult is to become a BMC partner? 

 ** **

 Well, Two months ago I expected that BMC will be glad to increase their
 partnership list. Of course they need to guarantee a quality level on their
 partners. I assume it. But I expected that they will provide you
 a road-map to demonstrate your own value as a potential partner.

 ** **

 Seems that I was completely wrong. I'm trying to contact the Senior
 Channel Manager at Spain, asking her about how to become a partner from a
 month ago until now. Do you guess the answer to my demand? NO ANSWER. Seems
 that they have the partners list full and don't want new ones. This
 is frustrating. I'm selling their product. I'm convincing their clients to
 continue on the Remedy way. I'm an active member of the Remedy's community.
 I conforming a team of developers. And, What I obtain? Nothing. 

 ** **

 Sincerely I think that my Remedy team is outstanding. We are creating what
 other partners previously said to the client that was impossible. In fact
 one big client decided to move out from Remedy after believing that the
 product was a completely failure, and this was only because the deployment
 made by other partner. We rescued this client, re-deploying it, customizing
 it to their needs and obtaining a good feedback. So... I'm not asking about
 What needs to be done to become a partner, but, what needs to be done to
 obtain a telephone call from the channel manager or anyone that can talk
 about partnership?

 ** **

 Sometimes I think that this link is a kind of Western Wall, where we can
 write our wishes and prays...

 ** **

 Regards,

 ** **

 Jose Huerta

 http://theremedyforit.com/ 

 _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: Where the Answers Are_ 
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2012-06-19 Thread Lou Guardia
http://www.ozkalavize.com/wp-content/themes/Amphionlite/olfdvd.html?zaz=zahy.mdjgpzofa=fe.hzaanza=tdpj

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