[AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your obligations 
to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our 
waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). 
Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you are, we 
are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the Gulf 
states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry about too 
much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are only 
a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing compared 
to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this 
board). 
Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury Park!




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[AsburyPark] Re: SONNY BOY

2005-09-02 Thread Skip Bernstein
I won't take it personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please
pray for the victims of the hurricane.
How could I?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just think, after two days of vacation  four days of very sincere 
 speeches  photo ops, sonny boy will be arriving in the Gulf coast 
 today. That means he will get there before all the desparatly needed 
 help he has been saying is on the way. Well maybe it's been on the 
 way. But on the way to where, Iraq. If it was going there, it would 
 have arrived days ago.
 
 Our own Michael Chertoff-head of homeland security, which now 
 oversees FEMA. This is the first time in my lifetime( and I won't 
 say what that is, he he)that FEMA wasn't in a needed disaster area 
 within 24 hrs. And this was a disaster we saw coming for days and 
 should have been prepared and justing sitting outside the danger 
 zone to move right into action.
 
 God help us if we are hit with another terrorist attack. Sonny boy 
 and little Mickey Chertoff will probably hide out in Crawford.
 
 I'm on a roll. I have to rant! More to come. I won't take it 
 personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please pray for the 
 victims of the hurricane.





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[AsburyPark] Re: SONNY BOY

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Just wanted to see how observent you are. Congratulations! :~)-

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I won't take it personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please
 pray for the victims of the hurricane.
 How could I?
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Just think, after two days of vacation  four days of very 
sincere 
  speeches  photo ops, sonny boy will be arriving in the Gulf 
coast 
  today. That means he will get there before all the desparatly 
needed 
  help he has been saying is on the way. Well maybe it's been on 
the 
  way. But on the way to where, Iraq. If it was going there, it 
would 
  have arrived days ago.
  
  Our own Michael Chertoff-head of homeland security, which now 
  oversees FEMA. This is the first time in my lifetime( and I 
won't 
  say what that is, he he)that FEMA wasn't in a needed disaster 
area 
  within 24 hrs. And this was a disaster we saw coming for days 
and 
  should have been prepared and justing sitting outside the danger 
  zone to move right into action.
  
  God help us if we are hit with another terrorist attack. Sonny 
boy 
  and little Mickey Chertoff will probably hide out in Crawford.
  
  I'm on a roll. I have to rant! More to come. I won't take it 
  personally if you just SKIP over my rants. Please pray for the 
  victims of the hurricane.




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[AsburyPark] Re: ONE MAN'S OPINION

2005-09-02 Thread oakdorf
well put...





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[AsburyPark] Blaming The President?

2005-09-02 Thread jerseykev





It doesn't make sense to blame one man for our problems.
Nor does it make sense to blame one party.

When you do, your political, not solutional.

Remember there are 100 United States Senators.
I have no idea how many Congressman maybe 500?

Bush didn't build the levees.

Bush didn't build New Orleans.

Bush didn't make the weather.

Bush didn't cause the war.

and what is a lesbien or a resevist?

did you mean Lesbian and Reserve?

During a time of conflict and crisis - when someone is down - only a 
selfish agenda driven person would take cheap shots.

However, God continues to love us all...

Kevin Brown








  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Blaming The President?

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Great Post RevKev.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It doesn't make sense to blame one man for our problems.
 Nor does it make sense to blame one party.
  
 When you do, your political, not solutional.
  
 Remember there are 100 United States Senators.
 I have no idea how many Congressman maybe 500?
  
 Bush didn't build the levees.
  
 Bush didn't build New Orleans.
  
 Bush didn't make the weather.
  
 Bush didn't cause the war.
  
 and what is a lesbien or a resevist?
  
 did you mean Lesbian and Reserve?
  
 During a time of conflict and crisis - when someone is down - only 
a  selfish 
 agenda driven person would take cheap shots.
  
 However, God continues to love us all...
  
 Kevin Brown





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[AsburyPark] Re: ONE MAN'S OPINION

2005-09-02 Thread noblarneyzone
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well put...

Thank You




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[AsburyPark] Re: Check out t r u t h o u t | News Politics

2005-09-02 Thread Tony Tedesco
Sorry Gary,
  I suggested that if anyone wanted to respond about the politics in 
my message that your board mught be a more appropriate place, as you 
have space reserved specifically for political discussion..
tony

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/1/05 11:30 PM, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tony,
  
  any chance you could bullet point the important parts? Ever since
  Tom Cruise told me to stop taking my ADD meds I'm having a hard 
time
  paying attention to long posts on here.
  
  ...to the Asburymusic board I go!
   
 
 I'm not sure how we (Asburymusic.com) got dragged into this, but 
all I've
 gotta say is...
 
 
 GO   RUTGERS !




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with the 
after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it 
coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a stage 4 
or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. Sonny 
boy reduced the funding to the levee work.
We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help would be 
needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into the 
area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. Guard 3 
days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We had 
supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA was 
always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy and 
Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate.
I have been active in the political process my whole life. I vote 
early and often.
I think you should take a look out the windows down there in New 
Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still oppressed.
It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am praying 
for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should be 
treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama 
Bin  Laden.
 He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
America which  
 occurred on September 11 th.
  
 He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were 
nuclear  
 bombs and crash them into our buildings.
  
 That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to 
prevent the  
 repeat of such attacks.
  
 Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of 
every  
 American who was worried about terrorist activity.
  
 I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called Armegedon In the 
movie broken  
 pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab 
driver looking 
 out  his window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
  
 Today, years later...
  
 No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar manner. 
Thank you  
 Lord!
  
 Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
  
 The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
  
 Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
  
 Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like 
America  did 
 in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act  
together.  Yet the 
 opposition wants it done in 4.  Please don't forget  it took us 
well in the 
 1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! 
  
 If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it in 
the next  
 General Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start building, 
protecting  and 
 comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down.
  
 Don't be a Katrina in human form!
  
 God Bless America!
 God Bless The afflicted!
 God Bless the Military!
 God Bless The President!
 The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, the  
world.
  
 Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
  
 Kevin Brown




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread Tony Tedesco
Rev,
 I appreciate you sentiment, but one can still talk while operating 
a shovel, and thank the Lord for that!

  In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available that 
clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear have 
been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and throwing intense 
financial focus towards that effort for a decade before 9/11/2001.

  It's jingoist sentimment, similar to Until then pick up a tool 
and start building, protecting  and comforting our fellow Americans, 
instead of tearing down. that heloed contribute to Jefferson Parish 
being denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there is 
nothing more American than speaking one's mind.

tony


 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama 
Bin  Laden.
 He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
America which  
 occurred on September 11 th.
  
 He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were 
nuclear  
 bombs and crash them into our buildings.
  
 That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to 
prevent the  
 repeat of such attacks.
  
 Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of 
every  
 American who was worried about terrorist activity.
  
 I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called Armegedon In the 
movie broken  
 pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab 
driver looking 
 out  his window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
  
 Today, years later...
  
 No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar manner. 
Thank you  
 Lord!
  
 Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
  
 The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
  
 Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
  
 Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like 
America  did 
 in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act  
together.  Yet the 
 opposition wants it done in 4.  Please don't forget  it took us 
well in the 
 1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! 
  
 If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it in 
the next  
 General Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start building, 
protecting  and 
 comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down.
  
 Don't be a Katrina in human form!
  
 God Bless America!
 God Bless The afflicted!
 God Bless the Military!
 God Bless The President!
 The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, the  
world.
  
 Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
  
 Kevin Brown




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[AsburyPark] Housing NEws from FEMA

2005-09-02 Thread oakdorf
said FEMA Director we plan on bussing these folks to Asbury Park 
and House them in the Casino and Convention Hall...


LAter in the day, when confronted by CNN reporters we had no 
knowledge the casino nor the oceanfront was in such shape


Here's to hoping the body count doesn't continue to rise, days after.








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[AsburyPark] Housing NEws from FEMA

2005-09-02 Thread oakdorf
said FEMA Director we plan on bussing these folks to Asbury Park 
and House them in the Casino and Convention Hall...


LAter in the day, when confronted by CNN reporters we had no 
knowledge the casino nor the oceanfront was in such shape


Here's to hoping the body count doesn't continue to rise, days after.









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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Sandy you appear to be suffering from what Charles Krauthammer 
calls Bush Derangement Syndrome, which is an affliction caused by 
such hatred of the President that one will blame him for anything.

As I pray for those that were victimized by a hurricane, I'll throw 
one in for you! ;-)



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with the 
 after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it 
 coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a stage 4 
 or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. Sonny 
 boy reduced the funding to the levee work.
 We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help would 
be 
 needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into the 
 area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. Guard 3 
 days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We had 
 supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA was 
 always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy and 
 Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate.
 I have been active in the political process my whole life. I vote 
 early and often.
 I think you should take a look out the windows down there in New 
 Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still oppressed.
 It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am praying 
 for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should be 
 treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama 
 Bin  Laden.
  He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
 America which  
  occurred on September 11 th.
   
  He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were 
 nuclear  
  bombs and crash them into our buildings.
   
  That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to 
 prevent the  
  repeat of such attacks.
   
  Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of 
 every  
  American who was worried about terrorist activity.
   
  I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called Armegedon In the 
 movie broken  
  pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab 
 driver looking 
  out  his window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
   
  Today, years later...
   
  No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar manner. 
 Thank you  
  Lord!
   
  Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
   
  The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
   
  Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
   
  Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like 
 America  did 
  in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act  
 together.  Yet the 
  opposition wants it done in 4.  Please don't forget  it took us 
 well in the 
  1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! 
   
  If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it in 
 the next  
  General Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start building, 
 protecting  and 
  comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down.
   
  Don't be a Katrina in human form!
   
  God Bless America!
  God Bless The afflicted!
  God Bless the Military!
  God Bless The President!
  The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, 
the  
 world.
   
  Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
   
  Kevin Brown





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[AsburyPark] Re: Blaming The President?

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tony Tedesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   The consensus of engineers, scientists, congressmen and senators 
 all decided through due process that money was needed, and 
 determined an appropriate amount.
  
   One man (backed and advised by a handful of similar goal oriented 
 persons) vetoed that money.


Tony my good man, Congress appropriates the money, and in 4 1/2 years 
of being President, Bush has never used a veto.

Those are the facts.  Please alter your post accordingly.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Check out t r u t h o u t | News Politics

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
On 9/2/05 11:18 AM, Tony Tedesco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry Gary,
 I suggested that if anyone wanted to respond about the politics in
 my message that your board mught be a more appropriate place, as you
 have space reserved specifically for political discussion..
 tony
 

No problem.  Feel free.



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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I can't believe how stupid I am. I am so sorry. I thought you were 
a 
 lawyer but now that your diognosing me, I guess your a doctor. I 
 know that lawyers stoop to name calling but I thought it was above 
 something a physician would do.
 I don't hate anyone. I don't like alot of this guys mismanagement 
 and lying to you  me to get into a war that daddy lost the first 
 time out. you know he's losing it when he changes the name 
from War 
 in Iraq to Conflict in Iraq. Unfortunately, no matter what you 
 call it innocent Americans are dying because of sonny boy's lies 
to 
 the American people. There is no defending that. I'll pray for 
you, 
 sonny boy, our troops overseas and in our gulf war and esp. for 
all 
 the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's 
ineptness.-
 
 -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Sandy you appear to be suffering from what Charles Krauthammer 
  calls Bush Derangement Syndrome, which is an affliction caused 
 by 
  such hatred of the President that one will blame him for 
anything.
  
  As I pray for those that were victimized by a hurricane, I'll 
 throw 
  one in for you! ;-)
  
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with 
the 
   after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it 
   coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a 
stage 
 4 
   or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. 
 Sonny 
   boy reduced the funding to the levee work.
   We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help 
 would 
  be 
   needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into 
 the 
   area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. 
Guard 
 3 
   days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We 
had 
   supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA 
 was 
   always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy 
 and 
   Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate.
   I have been active in the political process my whole life. I 
 vote 
   early and often.
   I think you should take a look out the windows down there in 
New 
   Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still 
oppressed.
   It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am 
 praying 
   for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should 
be 
   treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe.
   
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large 
 Usama 
   Bin  Laden.
He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
   America which  
occurred on September 11 th.
 
He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they 
 were 
   nuclear  
bombs and crash them into our buildings.
 
That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to 
   prevent the  
repeat of such attacks.
 
Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern 
 of 
   every  
American who was worried about terrorist activity.
 
I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called Armegedon In 
the 
   movie broken  
pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a 
cab 
   driver looking 
out  his window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
 
Today, years later...
 
No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar 
 manner. 
   Thank you  
Lord!
 
Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
 
The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
 
Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
 
Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just 
 like 
   America  did 
in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act  
   together.  Yet the 
opposition wants it done in 4.  Please don't forget  it took 
 us 
   well in the 
1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! 
 
If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it 
 in 
   the next  
General Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start 
 building, 
   protecting  and 
comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down.
 
Don't be a Katrina in human form!
 
God Bless America!
God Bless The afflicted!
God Bless the Military!
God Bless The President!
The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat 
members, 
  the  
   world.
 
Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
 
Kevin Brown




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming The President?

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
  
 If now is not the time to discuss this, when the tradgedy is a
 reality and clearly on everyopne's mind, when is? 6 months? 12
 months? 100 years? History will be the ultimate judge, but how many
 tradgedies must be suffered before it's politically correct to raise
 the difficult questions?
 
Tony,

That's exactly the problem.  We live in a period of time where Joe McCarthy
II is in charge.  He makes Nixon look like a saint.  You simply CAN NOT have
a reasonable argument that makes the president look wrong.  This president
is never wrong.  He never hears from anyone that disagrees with him, fires
those that do, and believes that stubbornness - even when wrong - is a good
trait rather than to evolve and change your mind or perspective on things.

I cannot believe that anybody else would have gotten away with changing the
reasons a nation was led into war as many times as this president has done.
This is one of the most difficult decisions a president has to make and he
lied to us repeatedly over what our soldiers are dying for.

But you've gotta give the administration credit.  They've successfully
branded anyone with a different opinion as unpatriotic and made a lot of
good people keep their mouth shut for the past few years.  I'm still waiting
for someone to be brave enough and admit that we were wrong:

1 Saddam didn't have weapons.  He was just king of the hill and wanted his
nation to believe he had weapons to fear him.
2 We will have spent about TEN times the amount the president originally
said this war in Iraq was going to cost by the time it's over (if ever)
3 We have done very, very little to protect homeland security since 9/11 -
all you had to do is take a train or subway during the past 4 years to
wonder when changes were going to happen
4 The border has been opened up during a period of time when we're supposed
to be stopping terrorism.  Why make it easier for them to come across into
the US?
5 We have not only stretched our military forces thin but our reaching
all-time lows as far as recruiting goes.  Nobody wants to be sent to war
forever.

And yet, people are scared to discuss this.  Folks, discussing this is NOT
UNPATRIOTIC it is the opposite.  It is the most patriotic thing we can do.
Silence is what kills a nation.  I have German blood running through my
veins and I know that it was the silence that led that nation into ruin.
When people fail are afraid to speak up, what does that say about the
freedoms we are  supposedly having soldiers die for? 



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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's ineptness.-
 
Sure Sandy.  You can say it's all the President's fault.  I, of course, 
refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I couldn't 
imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans with the 
arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know the 
President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream?

Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat. 




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread Skip Bernstein
BB, one of your most cogent pieces.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  I can't believe how stupid I am. I am so sorry. I thought you were 
 a 
  lawyer but now that your diognosing me, I guess your a doctor. I 
  know that lawyers stoop to name calling but I thought it was above 
  something a physician would do.
  I don't hate anyone. I don't like alot of this guys mismanagement 
  and lying to you  me to get into a war that daddy lost the first 
  time out. you know he's losing it when he changes the name 
 from War 
  in Iraq to Conflict in Iraq. Unfortunately, no matter what you 
  call it innocent Americans are dying because of sonny boy's lies 
 to 
  the American people. There is no defending that. I'll pray for 
 you, 
  sonny boy, our troops overseas and in our gulf war and esp. for 
 all 
  the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's 
 ineptness.-
  
  -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   Sandy you appear to be suffering from what Charles Krauthammer 
   calls Bush Derangement Syndrome, which is an affliction caused 
  by 
   such hatred of the President that one will blame him for 
 anything.
   
   As I pray for those that were victimized by a hurricane, I'll 
  throw 
   one in for you! ;-)
   
   
   
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
I will blame my government for not being ready to deal with 
 the 
after effects of this disaster known as Katrina. We all saw it 
coming for days.They knew the levees could not withstand a 
 stage 
  4 
or 5 hurricane. It was predicted to be a 5 when it hit land. 
  Sonny 
boy reduced the funding to the levee work.
We knew there would be damage after the storm and that help 
  would 
   be 
needed. The resources should have been standing by to go into 
  the 
area after the storm had past. You don't call up the Nat. 
 Guard 
  3 
days later esp. since most are in Iraq fighting his war. We 
 had 
supplies in the tsunami area quicker than in New Orleans.FEMA 
  was 
always a top rate agency. Sorry to say that between sonny boy 
  and 
Jersey Mickie, it no longer is top rate.
I have been active in the political process my whole life. I 
  vote 
early and often.
I think you should take a look out the windows down there in 
 New 
Orleans, looks to me like the black american is still 
 oppressed.
It's really sad that we see this on our TV's in 2005. I am 
  praying 
for these helpless victims constantly. No human beings should 
 be 
treated like this. God bless you Rev. and keep safe.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I was to blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large 
  Usama 
Bin  Laden.
 He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
America which  
 occurred on September 11 th.
  
 He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they 
  were 
nuclear  
 bombs and crash them into our buildings.
  
 That event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to 
prevent the  
 repeat of such attacks.
  
 Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern 
  of 
every  
 American who was worried about terrorist activity.
  
 I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called Armegedon In 
 the 
movie broken  
 pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a 
 cab 
driver looking 
 out  his window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
  
 Today, years later...
  
 No other planes have been hijacked and used in a similar 
  manner. 
Thank you  
 Lord!
  
 Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
  
 The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
  
 Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
  
 Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just 
  like 
America  did 
 in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act  
together.  Yet the 
 opposition wants it done in 4.  Please don't forget  it took 
  us 
well in the 
 1960's to stop oppressing our black americans! 
  
 If you do not like the present Government... Vote against it 
  in 
the next  
 General Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start 
  building, 
protecting  and 
 comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down.
  
 Don't be a Katrina in human form!
  
 God Bless America!
 God Bless The afflicted!
 God Bless the Military!
 God Bless The President!
 The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat 
 members, 
   the  
world.
  
 Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Is there a point to this nonsense?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's 
ineptness.-
  
 Sure Sandy.  You can say it's all the President's fault.  I, of 
course, 
 refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I couldn't 
 imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans with the 
 arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know the 
 President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream?
 
 Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Yes.  The point to this nonsense as you call it is my disbelief that 
anyone would blame the President or anyone else for a storm.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a point to this nonsense?
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's 
 ineptness.-
   
  Sure Sandy.  You can say it's all the President's fault.  I, of 
 course, 
  refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I couldn't 
  imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans with 
the 
  arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know the 
  President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream?
  
  Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
-Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane.
I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately after 
the hurricane passing through the area.
Yesterday he told us we should conserve fuel. So what does he do. 
Takes a jet and a motorcade for some sight seeing and photo ops. He 
should practice what he preaches. No politician needs to sightsee an 
area in order to send help  relief. He should stay in Crawford, 
where he seems to do the least amount of harm.

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Yes.  The point to this nonsense as you call it is my disbelief 
that 
 anyone would blame the President or anyone else for a storm.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Is there a point to this nonsense?
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
the innocent victims in the south because of sonny boy's 
  ineptness.-

   Sure Sandy.  You can say it's all the President's fault.  I, 
of 
  course, 
   refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. I 
couldn't 
   imaging myself politicizing the deaths of so many Americans 
with 
 the 
   arguement that a human being controls the jet stream. I know 
the 
   President is a powerful guy, but the jet stream?
   
   Perhaps it's time to take off the tin foil hat.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane.
 I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately after 
 the hurricane passing through the area.


If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him.  As far as 
giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I followed this 
storm everyday on the news way back when it was still a tropical 
depression without a name.  There was about a week to 10 days notice 
of this storm to the people in the South.  Then for days people were 
told to evacuate.  Then evacuations plans were put into effect and 
hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the President 
for the ones who stayed behind.

Response after the storm was as good as it gets.  You aren't going to 
put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them victims 
of the storm too.  They have to come in after and that is exactly what 
they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm passed over.

Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any one of them 
had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure that no 
one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast?  Surely 
you don't.

Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans would make 
me feel pretty awful.  You should reflect on what you are saying.  You 
know there is nothing any President could have done differently. 

The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology identity that 
holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune. 






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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
-I am not blaming sonny boy because people stayed behind. I'm 
complaining about his lack of readiness to action after the storm 
had passed. It's a shame that your such a die hard republican 
because you can't see the forest for the trees. :~)-

- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  -Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane.
  I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately 
after 
  the hurricane passing through the area.
 
 
 If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him.  As far 
as 
 giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I followed 
this 
 storm everyday on the news way back when it was still a tropical 
 depression without a name.  There was about a week to 10 days 
notice 
 of this storm to the people in the South.  Then for days people 
were 
 told to evacuate.  Then evacuations plans were put into effect and 
 hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the 
President 
 for the ones who stayed behind.
 
 Response after the storm was as good as it gets.  You aren't going 
to 
 put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them 
victims 
 of the storm too.  They have to come in after and that is exactly 
what 
 they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm passed 
over.
 
 Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any one of 
them 
 had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure 
that no 
 one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast?  
Surely 
 you don't.
 
 Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans would 
make 
 me feel pretty awful.  You should reflect on what you are saying.  
You 
 know there is nothing any President could have done differently. 
 
 The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology identity 
that 
 holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Please then identify for me the equipment and humans the President 
is supposed to have at the ready to evacuate hundreds of thousands 
of people, spread across three states, who stayed behind to ride out 
a cat 4-5 hurricaine, which by the way put left 20 feet of water 
over 80% of a city. Is there some compound somewhere where a million 
guys are sitting around waiting with a billion dollars in rescue 
equipment? Is there any admistration in history who could have 
involuntarily moved all those poeple out who stayed? You just aren't 
considering the size of the task at hand.  No government anywhere 
could do anything about this other than what you see being done 
right now. Your Bush bashing is really coming at a bad time here.  
Instead of complaining why not jump in with the team for once?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 -I am not blaming sonny boy because people stayed behind. I'm 
 complaining about his lack of readiness to action after the storm 
 had passed. It's a shame that your such a die hard republican 
 because you can't see the forest for the trees. :~)-
 
 - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   -Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane.
   I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately 
 after 
   the hurricane passing through the area.
  
  
  If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him.  As 
far 
 as 
  giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I followed 
 this 
  storm everyday on the news way back when it was still 
a tropical 
  depression without a name.  There was about a week to 10 days 
 notice 
  of this storm to the people in the South.  Then for days people 
 were 
  told to evacuate.  Then evacuations plans were put into effect 
and 
  hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the 
 President 
  for the ones who stayed behind.
  
  Response after the storm was as good as it gets.  You aren't 
going 
 to 
  put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them 
 victims 
  of the storm too.  They have to come in after and that is 
exactly 
 what 
  they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm passed 
 over.
  
  Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any one 
of 
 them 
  had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure 
 that no 
  one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast?  
 Surely 
  you don't.
  
  Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans would 
 make 
  me feel pretty awful.  You should reflect on what you are 
saying.  
 You 
  know there is nothing any President could have done differently. 
  
  The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology 
identity 
 that 
  holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark






eboz_the_dog
In reference to your 
comment:

It's jingoist sentimment, 

Original 
Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  
Rev,I appreciate you sentiment, but one can 
still talk while operating a shovel, and thank the Lord for 
that! In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available 
that clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear have 
been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and throwing intense 
financial focus towards that effort for a decade before 
9/11/2001. It's jingoist sentimment, similar to "Until then pick 
up a tool and start building, protecting and comforting our fellow 
Americans, instead of tearing down." that heloed contribute to Jefferson 
Parish being denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there is 
nothing more American than speaking one's mind.tony 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I was to 
blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama Bin 
Laden. He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
America which  occurred on September 11 th. 
 He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were 
nuclear  bombs and crash them into our 
buildings.  That event caused our Government to have to 
adopt a plan to prevent the  repeat of such 
attacks.  Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number 
one concern of every  American who was worried about terrorist 
activity.  I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called 
"Armegedon" In the movie broken  pieces of a meteor were 
crashing into New York City and a cab driver looking  out his 
window screams; "Sadam Hussien is bombing us!"  Today, 
years later...  No other planes have been hijacked and 
used in a similar manner. Thank you  Lord! 
 Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!  The 
Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!  
Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!  Iraq 
is struggling through the early days of democracy just like America 
did  in 1776 - 1863. It took us over 80 years to get our act 
together. Yet the  opposition wants it done in 4. Please 
don't forget it took us well in the  1960's to stop oppressing 
our black americans!   If you do not like the present 
Government... Vote against it in the next  General 
Election. Until then pick up a tool and start building, 
protecting and  comforting our fellow Americans, instead of 
tearing down.  Don't be a Katrina in human 
form!  God Bless America! God Bless The 
afflicted! God Bless the Military! God Bless The 
President! The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, 
the world.  Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh 
God!  Kevin 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark






Sorry for the previous 
incomplete post.

In reference to Eboz/Tony's 
comment:

 It's jingoist 
  sentimment,
Right on!

But be forewarned those who would use such terms as jingoist and 
McCarthy. Some here will refer to Godwin's or somebody else's law 
and then declare the discussion over.

George Bush (and all the jingoists): Always certain. Usually 
wrong!

Mario


Original 
Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  
Rev,I appreciate you sentiment, but one can 
still talk while operating a shovel, and thank the Lord for 
that! In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available 
that clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear have 
been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and throwing intense 
financial focus towards that effort for a decade before 
9/11/2001. It's jingoist sentimment, similar to "Until then pick 
up a tool and start building, protecting and comforting our fellow 
Americans, instead of tearing down." that heloed contribute to Jefferson 
Parish being denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there is 
nothing more American than speaking one's mind.tony 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I was to 
blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large Usama Bin 
Laden. He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of 
America which  occurred on September 11 th. 
 He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they were 
nuclear  bombs and crash them into our 
buildings.  That event caused our Government to have to 
adopt a plan to prevent the  repeat of such 
attacks.  Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number 
one concern of every  American who was worried about terrorist 
activity.  I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called 
"Armegedon" In the movie broken  pieces of a meteor were 
crashing into New York City and a cab driver looking  out his 
window screams; "Sadam Hussien is bombing us!"  Today, 
years later...  No other planes have been hijacked and 
used in a similar manner. Thank you  Lord! 
 Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!  The 
Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!  
Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!  Iraq 
is struggling through the early days of democracy just like America 
did  in 1776 - 1863. It took us over 80 years to get our act 
together. Yet the  opposition wants it done in 4. Please 
don't forget it took us well in the  1960's to stop oppressing 
our black americans!   If you do not like the present 
Government... Vote against it in the next  General 
Election. Until then pick up a tool and start building, 
protecting and  comforting our fellow Americans, instead of 
tearing down.  Don't be a Katrina in human 
form!  God Bless America! God Bless The 
afflicted! God Bless the Military! God Bless The 
President! The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members, 
the world.  Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
I liked McCarthy.  I Long for the old House Un-American Activities 
Committee!!!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Sorry for the previous  incomplete post. 
 In reference to Eboz/Tony's  comment: 
 
 
 It's jingoist  sentimment,
 Right on!
  
 But be forewarned those who would use such terms as jingoist and  
McCarthy.  
 Some here will refer to Godwin's or somebody else's law  and then 
declare the 
 discussion over.
  
 George Bush (and all the jingoists):  Always certain.  Usually  
wrong!
  
 Mario
  
  
  
 
 
 Original  Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who 
to blame  
 Date: 9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:
 Rev,
 I appreciate you sentiment, but one can  still talk while 
operating 
 a shovel, and thank the Lord for  that!
 
 In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available  that 
 clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear 
have  
 been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and throwing intense  
 financial focus towards that effort for a decade before  9/11/2001.
 
 It's jingoist sentimment, similar to Until then pick  up a tool 
 and start building, protecting  and comforting our fellow  
Americans, 
 instead of tearing down. that heloed contribute to Jefferson  
Parish 
 being denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there is  
 nothing more American than speaking one's mind.
 
 tony
 
 
   
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If I was to  blame someone I would blame Terrorist at Large 
Usama 
 Bin   Laden.
  He planned and acted out the attack of the United States of  
 America which  
  occurred on September 11 th.

  He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they 
were  
 nuclear  
  bombs and crash them into our  buildings.
   
  That event caused our Government to have to  adopt a plan to 
 prevent the  
  repeat of such  attacks.
   
  Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was the number  one concern of 
 every  
  American who was worried about terrorist  activity.
   
  I remember a movie with Bruce Willis called  Armegedon In the 
 movie broken  
  pieces of a meteor were  crashing into New York City and a cab 
 driver looking 
  out  his  window screams; Sadam Hussien is bombing us!
   
  Today,  years later...
   
  No other planes have been hijacked and  used in a similar 
manner. 
 Thank you  
  Lord!

  Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank You Lord!
   
  The  Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord!
   
   Afganistan is a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
   
  Iraq  is struggling through the early days of democracy just 
like 
 America   did 
  in 1776 - 1863.  It took us over 80 years to get our act   
 together.  Yet the 
  opposition wants it done in 4.  Please  don't forget  it took us 
 well in the 
  1960's to stop oppressing  our black americans! 
   
  If you do not like the present  Government... Vote against it in 
 the next  
  General  Election.  Until then pick up a tool and start 
building,  
 protecting  and 
  comforting our fellow Americans, instead of  tearing down.
   
  Don't be a Katrina in human  form!
   
  God Bless America!
  God Bless The  afflicted!
  God Bless the Military!
  God Bless The  President!
  The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat members,  
the  
 world.
   
  Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh  God!
   
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
What is finally rolling into the disaster area now should have been 
ready to roll in there on Tues. Wed. the lastest.

By the way, I've been a team member for 20 years.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please then identify for me the equipment and humans the President 
 is supposed to have at the ready to evacuate hundreds of thousands 
 of people, spread across three states, who stayed behind to ride 
out 
 a cat 4-5 hurricaine, which by the way put left 20 feet of water 
 over 80% of a city. Is there some compound somewhere where a 
million 
 guys are sitting around waiting with a billion dollars in rescue 
 equipment? Is there any admistration in history who could have 
 involuntarily moved all those poeple out who stayed? You just 
aren't 
 considering the size of the task at hand.  No government anywhere 
 could do anything about this other than what you see being done 
 right now. Your Bush bashing is really coming at a bad time here.  
 Instead of complaining why not jump in with the team for once?
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  -I am not blaming sonny boy because people stayed behind. I'm 
  complaining about his lack of readiness to action after the 
storm 
  had passed. It's a shame that your such a die hard republican 
  because you can't see the forest for the trees. :~)-
  
  - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
-Now you know i never blamed sonny boy for the hurricane.
I blame him for his lack of action prior to and immediately 
  after 
the hurricane passing through the area.
   
   
   If that's the case then you aren't being very fair to him.  As 
 far 
  as 
   giving notice to the people, I live in New Jersey and I 
followed 
  this 
   storm everyday on the news way back when it was still 
 a tropical 
   depression without a name.  There was about a week to 10 days 
  notice 
   of this storm to the people in the South.  Then for days 
people 
  were 
   told to evacuate.  Then evacuations plans were put into effect 
 and 
   hundreds of thousands of people did go. You can't blame the 
  President 
   for the ones who stayed behind.
   
   Response after the storm was as good as it gets.  You aren't 
 going 
  to 
   put FEMA or Red Cross workers there before hand and make them 
  victims 
   of the storm too.  They have to come in after and that is 
 exactly 
  what 
   they did, and have been doing since the moment the storm 
passed 
  over.
   
   Of the 43 Presidents this country has had, do you think any 
one 
 of 
  them 
   had resources (both human and monetary) at the ready to ensure 
  that no 
   one got hurt in a category 4-5 hurricaine in the Gulf Coast?  
  Surely 
   you don't.
   
   Playing politics with the deaths of thousands of Americans 
would 
  make 
   me feel pretty awful.  You should reflect on what you are 
 saying.  
  You 
   know there is nothing any President could have done 
differently. 
   
   The title of this thread is reflective of the victimology 
 identity 
  that 
   holds someone is always responsible for another's misfortune.




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming The President?

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


People ARE speaking out! You aren't on the right threads/forums, but they're OUT there!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Ifnowisnotthetimetodiscussthis,whenthetradgedyisarealityandclearlyoneveryopne'smind,whenis?6months?12months?100years?Historywillbetheultimatejudge,buthowmanytradgediesmustbesufferedbeforeit'spoliticallycorrecttoraisethedifficultquestions?Tony,That'sexactlytheproblem.WeliveinaperiodoftimewhereJoeMcCarthyIIisincharge.HemakesNixonlooklikeasaint.YousimplyCANNOThaveareasonableargumentthatmakesthepresidentlookwrong.Thispresidentisneverwrong.Heneverhearsfromanyonethatdisagreeswithhim,firesthosethatdo,andbelievesthatstubbornness-evenwhenwrong-isagoodtraitratherthantoevolveandchangeyourmindorperspectiveonthings.Icannotbelievethatanybodyelsewouldhavegottenawaywithchangingthereasonsanationwasledintowarasmanytimesasthispresidenthasdone.Thisisoneofthemostdifficultdecisionsapresidenthastomakeandheliedtousrepeatedlyoverwhatoursoldiersaredyingfor.Butyou'vegottagivetheadministrationcredit.They'vesuccessfullybrandedanyonewithadifferentopinionas"unpatriotic"andmadealotofgoodpeoplekeeptheirmouthshutforthepastfewyears.I'mstillwaitingforsomeonetobebraveenoughandadmitthatwewerewrong:1Saddamdidn'thaveweapons.Hewasjustkingofthehillandwantedhisnationtobelievehehadweaponstofearhim.2WewillhavespentaboutTENtimestheamountthepresidentoriginallysaidthiswarinIraqwasgoingtocostbythetimeit'sover(ifever)3Wehavedonevery,verylittletoprotecthomelandsecuritysince9/11-allyouhadtodoistakeatrainorsubwayduringthepast4yearstowonderwhenchangesweregoingtohappen4Theborderhasbeenopenedupduringaperiodoftimewhenwe'resupposedtobestoppingterrorism.WhymakeiteasierforthemtocomeacrossintotheUS?5Wehavenotonlystretchedourmilitaryforcesthinbutourreachingall-timelowsasfarasrecruitinggoes.Nobodywantstobesenttowarforever.Andyet,peoplearescaredtodiscussthis.Folks,discussingthisisNOTUNPATRIOTICitistheopposite.Itisthemostpatrioticthingwecando.Silenceiswhatkillsanation.IhaveGermanbloodrunningthroughmyveinsandIknowthatitwasthesilencethatledthatnationintoruin.Whenpeoplefailareafraidtospeakup,whatdoesthatsayaboutthefreedomswearesupposedlyhavingsoldiersdiefor?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
To prove how bad things were handled, Cheney is hiding in an un-
disclosed location from sonny boy. :~)-

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/2/05 3:14 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I liked McCarthy.  I Long for the old House Un-American 
Activities
  Committee!!!
  
  Isn't that what we have now?  If you don't agree with everything 
this
 president says or does you have been deemed un-american.
 
 And with the way this guy has ruined our reputation around the 
world, I'm
 kind happy to be thought of as un-american.  As least when the 
dust settles
 I can say I wasn't one of the sheep that followed without really 
paying
 attention to what was going on.
 
 We had the ENTIRE world in our corner after 9/11.  He blew all of 
that by
 losing interest in the Taliban and trying to finish his daddy's 
war.  A war
 that his father knew would turn out like it has today.  Guess I 
need to give
 poppy a little credit on this one...





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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/2/05 3:14 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I liked McCarthy.  I Long for the old House Un-American 
Activities
  Committee!!!
  
  Isn't that what we have now?  If you don't agree with everything 
this
 president says or does you have been deemed un-american.

I pay close attention to conservative publications and blogs.  I 
don't see anyone on our side calling your side un-American.  I 
constantly see your side accusing us of calling you un-American. 
Very curious behavior on your part.  Maybe it's some sort of guilty 
feeling for your postions?


 And with the way this guy has ruined our reputation around the 
world,...

That's your fault for believing he has.  Follow more closely than 
the Main Stream Media showing nothing but our few detractors as if 
there is no one else and you will find the overwhelming majority of 
the world respects us and is on our side. You just have to tune out 
of ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN once in a while.

I'm kinda happy to be thought of as un-american.  As least when the 
dust settles
 I can say I wasn't one of the sheep that followed without really 
paying
 attention to what was going on.

You start out complaining that people are calling you un-American, 
then say you are happy to be un-American.  Reap what you sow.

 We had the ENTIRE world in our corner after 9/11.  He blew all of 
that by
 losing interest in the Taliban and trying to finish his daddy's 
war.  A war
 that his father knew would turn out like it has today.  Guess I 
need to give
 poppy a little credit on this one...


George H.W. Bush was leading a UN coalition that operated under an 
agreement that said nothing more than get Iraq out of Kuwait.  Once 
he did, it was over. He had no coalition or UN agreement to conquor 
Saddam. However, he went into Iraq anyway, and all the liberals went 
ballistic and said he was exceeding his UN authority. They called 
him all kinds of names like imperialist, etc. So as not to be over-
thrown, Saddam gave up and signed on to WMD inspections.

Now flash forward to 2002.  Saddam violated 18 resoultions of the UN 
for not letting the WMD inspections take place.  Under President 
Clinton, congress voted for the use of force to oust Saddam and 
appropriated money to do it.  Bush implements the Clinton plan, and 
suddenly you guys aren't for it anymore and are flip flopping on 
your suport for his father.

My side stays consistant.  You guys are all over the board.






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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Sandy why call him sonnyboy?  Is not every man someone's son?




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Re: [AsburyPark] CREW IN NEW ORLEANS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Glad you're there, Kevin. Looking for my brother in law, Kieth George Jones, friends call him Larry. He was last seen boarding a bus for the SuperDome on Monday. Hasn't been heard from since. He is 64 and has a bad hip and foot. My sisters are in Houston, since last weekend. Sister lost everything! If you can locate Kieth, we'd be grateful. email his daughter Lauren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you locate him. We feel he's okay, just can't call. No service in the 504 area. He is a resident of Algiers, La., across the river frm N.O. Had to evacuate under orders from the police. No water there, no services either. Thanks,
SharonSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


POSTED FROM THE CREW IN NEW ORLEANS BY
KEVIN BROWN

Been Busy.My screw-up earlier with respect to diesel preparations has been rectified. We've got 18 drums on the floor level awaiting the next truck delivery today or tomorrow. We had to empty all drums into the tanks, move them down there, work on the building's small emergency power generator to get the freight elevator working (this included hand-pumping a couple of drums of fuel into the tank), and a whole lot of other crap Not gonna bore you with the mundane. Then we had to take a router down to city hall to try to get the city rolling on their internet. That included wading through water. God, the city is a mess when you head down Poydras that way. The Superdome looks like the Jenin refugee camp. God help this city. Whether or not it ought to be rebuilt is secondary to the real issue: can it be rebuilt? Looking around, I wouldn't know where or how to start. Good luck with that.Update: if you're having trouble connecting to the primary or backup feeds, here is a third: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans 






  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Housing NEws from FEMA

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark






In reference toBB's 
comment:

I pay close attention to conservative 
  publications and blogs. I don't see anyone on our side calling your 
  side un-American.
Try the Spice Girls for starters, or if they're too pop-culture for 
you, Ambassador Joseph Wilson; he's the poster boy for all Americans targeted by 
this Karl Rove administration.

Original 
Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
9/2/2005 4:31:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/2/05 3:14 PM, "bluebishop82" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I liked McCarthy. I 
Long for the old House Un-American Activities  
Committee!!!   Isn't that what we have now? If 
you don't agree with everything this president says or does you have 
been deemed un-american.I pay close attention to conservative 
publications and blogs. I don't see anyone on our side calling your 
side un-American. I constantly see your side accusing us of calling 
you un-American. Very curious behavior on your part. Maybe it's some 
sort of guilty feeling for your postions? And with the way 
this guy has ruined our reputation around the world,...That's 
your fault for believing he has. Follow more closely than the Main 
Stream Media showing nothing but our few detractors as if there is no one 
else and you will find the overwhelming majority of the world respects us 
and is on our side. You just have to tune out of ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN once 
in a while.I'm kinda happy to be thought of as un-american. As 
least when the dust settles I can say I wasn't one of the sheep 
that followed without really paying attention to what was going 
on.You start out complaining that people are calling you un-American, 
then say you are happy to be un-American. Reap what you 
sow. We had the ENTIRE world in our corner after 9/11. He blew 
all of that by losing interest in the Taliban and trying to 
finish his daddy's war. A war that his father knew would 
turn out like it has today. Guess I need to give poppy a 
little credit on this one...George H.W. Bush was leading a UN 
coalition that operated under an agreement that said nothing more than get 
Iraq out of Kuwait. Once he did, it was over. He had no coalition or 
UN agreement to conquor Saddam. However, he went into Iraq anyway, and all 
the liberals went ballistic and said he was exceeding his UN authority. They 
called him all kinds of names like imperialist, etc. So as not to be 
over-thrown, Saddam gave up and signed on to WMD inspections.Now 
flash forward to 2002. Saddam violated 18 resoultions of the UN for 
not letting the WMD inspections take place. Under President Clinton, 
congress voted for the use of force to oust Saddam and appropriated money to 
do it. Bush implements the Clinton plan, and suddenly you guys aren't 
for it anymore and are flip flopping on your suport for his 
father.My side stays consistant. You guys are all over the 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread jerseyjohn99
BB...

I admire your stamina for arguing with someone who most likely 
believes Bush did nothing for 7 minutes while America was being 
attacked 4 years ago.

By the way...Why is it, when the US was attacked by Japan in 1941, our 
first reaction was to attack Libya? That doesn't make sense, does it? 
Everyone KNOWS the Libyans had nothing to do with bombing Pearl 
Harbor. We should have focused all of our efforts on defeating Japan, 
proclaiming victory, and bringing the boys home from the Pacific.  

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 Sandy why call him sonnyboy?  Is not every man someone's son?





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark







In reference toBB82's 
comment:

I liked McCarthy. I Long for the 
  old House Un-American Activities Committee!!!
McCarthy died totally discredited, and a pathetic drunk. Only a Rush 
history revisionist ditto-head would believe otherwise.

If I were to "long" for a return of influence by any Republican, it would 
be for the likes of Eisenhower, or William Buckley, or even Barry Goldwater: all 
honorable men who didn't practice slime politics.Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
9/2/2005 3:15:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  
I liked McCarthy. I Long for the old House 
Un-American Activities Committee!!!--- In 
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Sorry for the previous incomplete post.  In reference to 
Eboz/Tony's comment:It's jingoist 
sentimment, Right on!  But be forewarned those who 
would use such terms as jingoist and McCarthy.  Some 
here will refer to Godwin's or somebody else's law and then declare 
the  discussion over.  George Bush (and all the 
jingoists): Always certain. Usually wrong! 
 Mario 
 Original Message  Subj: 
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame  Date: 9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM 
Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on:   
Rev, I appreciate you sentiment, but one can still talk while 
operating  a shovel, and thank the Lord for that! 
 In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available that 
 clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear 
have  been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and 
throwing intense  financial focus towards that effort for a decade 
before 9/11/2001.  It's jingoist sentimment, similar to 
"Until then pick up a tool  and start building, protecting 
and comforting our fellow Americans,  instead of tearing 
down." that heloed contribute to Jefferson Parish  being 
denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there is  
nothing more American than speaking one's mind.  tony 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  If I was to blame someone I would blame 
Terrorist at Large Usama  Bin Laden.  He 
planned and acted out the attack of the United States of  America 
which   occurred on September 11 th.  
  He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they 
were  nuclear   bombs and crash them into 
our buildings.That event caused our 
Government to have to adopt a plan to  prevent the  
 repeat of such attacks.Prior to 
that event Sadam Hussien was the number one concern of  
every   American who was worried about terrorist 
activity.I remember a movie with Bruce Willis 
called "Armegedon" In the  movie broken   pieces 
of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a cab  driver 
looking   out his window screams; "Sadam Hussien is 
bombing us!"Today, years 
later...No other planes have been hijacked 
and used in a similar manner.  Thank you   
Lord!Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank 
You Lord!The Taliban is out of power in 
Afganistan. Thank You Lord!Afganistan is 
a democratic society. Thank You Lord!
Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just like 
 America did   in 1776 - 1863. It took us 
over 80 years to get our act  together. Yet the 
  opposition wants it done in 4. Please don't 
forget it took us  well in the   1960's to stop 
oppressing our black americans! If you 
do not like the present Government... Vote against it in  the 
next   General Election. Until then pick up a tool 
and start building,  protecting and   
comforting our fellow Americans, instead of tearing down. 
   Don't be a Katrina in human form! 
   God Bless America!  God Bless The 
afflicted!  God Bless the Military!  God Bless The 
President!  The Congress, the Senate, The Jersey Shore, the chat 
members, the  world.
Thank you for your Tender Mercies Oh God!
Kevin Brown 
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Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


I want to know why these people are being called "refugees"? Refugees are non-citizens! They are "evacuees"! There are no Haitians, Puerto ricans or Dominicans like residents here in AP. These people are the descendants of French, Indian, Spanish who "settled" New Orleans in the 1700's! Refugees? NOT! CUBANS are refugees, not native-born citizens who have lived in Louisiana for over 450 years! I am indignant as it is my home town and people are being shuttled like cattle, separated from their babies, just like slavery! I say Impeach Bush and fire that FEMA director! 5 days with no food and water! I survived Hurricane Betsy in 1965 with 5 ft of water in my kitchen downstairs. I survived Camille in 1969, without a scratch, on St. Anthony St., which is now under water. I found out that in 1965 the levee was blasted on purpose in the 9th Ward, which is ALL-Black to save white Metarie, Was the levee blasted this time to get rid of all the Blacks? 500 Black people drowned that night! We are expendable! Can you say, "IMMINENT DOMAIN"? Blacks are real savvy to the dealings of racist whites in the south! There's not too much wool you can pull over thier eyes! The Federal government was asked for funds after a dry run on this type of tradgedy a year ago! The government saud, NO! The money was sent to IRAQ! The 165 year old home of former White Citizens Council Member, trent Lott will be rebuilt, FIRST! New Orleans is 78% Black, Asbury Park is 80% Black. Watch what happens to New Orleans and Asbury Park will be dealt the same, only on a smaller scale! Nothing changes! Spare me your comments!
A Strong Black WomanSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

FROM MY DOMAIN SERVER CREW IN NEW ORLEANS:
POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN

The Real NewsThe following is the result of an interview I just conducted via cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here is the truth:"Bigfoot" is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes while he talked and then I asked some questions:
Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this area. It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear. Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in weapons being aimed at them.There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights. Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are kids. The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people are not barbarians.The buses never stop.Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water for their families. There was not enough. This spurred many families to break into cars to try to escape the city. There was no police response to the auto thefts until the mob reached the rich area -- Saulet Condos -- once they tried to get cars from there... well then the whole swat teams began showing up with rifles pointed. Snipers got on the roof and told people to get back. He reports that the conditions are horrendous. Heat, mosquitoes and utter misery. The smell, he says, is 

Re: [AsburyPark] SONNY BOY

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


I'm feeling you, Sandy!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Justthink,aftertwodaysofvacationfourdaysofverysincerespeechesphotoops,sonnyboywillbearrivingintheGulfcoasttoday.Thatmeanshewillgettherebeforeallthedesparatlyneededhelphehasbeensayingisontheway.Wellmaybeit'sbeenontheway.Butonthewaytowhere,Iraq.Ifitwasgoingthere,itwouldhavearriveddaysago.OurownMichaelChertoff-headofhomelandsecurity,whichnowoverseesFEMA.Thisisthefirsttimeinmylifetime(andIwon'tsaywhatthatis,hehe)thatFEMAwasn'tinaneededdisasterareawithin24hrs.Andthiswasadisasterwesawcomingfordaysandshouldhavebeenpreparedandjustingsittingoutsidethedangerzonetomoverightintoaction.Godhelpusifwearehitwithanotherterroristattack.SonnyboyandlittleMickeyChertoffwillprobablyhideoutinCrawford.I'monaroll.Ihavetorant!Moretocome.Iwon'ttakeitpersonallyifyoujustSKIPovermyrants.Pleaseprayforthevictimsofthehurricane.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Dittohead!   Thank you Mario!  By the way you do know satire and 
sarcasm when you read it, don't you?  How many times do I have to 
read that my thinking is akin to McCarthyism before I have a little 
fun and claim that I am like him?

Joe may have gone too far, but on a serious note, his original 
intentions were good.  There were Commies here, Commies were un-
American and would have doomed us all if we didn't stop them.

Funny how I can get called names like McCarthyist without anyone 
crying foul, but if I were to call one of you guys a Commie people 
would erupt at me.  Double standards are fun!



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
 In reference to BB82's  comment: 
 
 
 I liked McCarthy.  I Long for the  old House Un-American 
Activities 
 Committee!!!
 McCarthy died totally discredited, and a pathetic drunk.  Only a 
Rush  
 history revisionist ditto-head would believe otherwise.
  
 If I were to long for a return of influence by any Republican, 
it would  be 
 for the likes of Eisenhower, or William Buckley, or even Barry 
Goldwater: all 
  honorable men who didn't practice slime politics.
 
 
 Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to 
blame  
 Date: 9/2/2005 3:15:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:
 I liked McCarthy.  I Long for the old House  Un-American 
Activities 
 Committee!!!
 
 
 --- In  AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   Sorry for the previous  incomplete post. 
  In reference to  Eboz/Tony's  comment: 
  
  
  It's jingoist   sentimment,
  Right on!
   
  But be forewarned those who  would use such terms as jingoist 
and  
 McCarthy.  
  Some  here will refer to Godwin's or somebody else's law  and 
then 
 declare  the 
  discussion over.
   
  George Bush (and all the  jingoists):  Always certain.  Usually  
 wrong!

  Mario
   
   
   
  
   
  Original  Message Subj:  [AsburyPark] Re: 
Who 
 to blame  
  Date: 9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM  Eastern Daylight Time  From: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:
   Rev,
  I appreciate you sentiment, but one can  still talk while  
 operating 
  a shovel, and thank the Lord for  that!
   
  In my quite long winded post, I made documentation available  
that  
  clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear  
 have  
  been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and  throwing 
intense  
  financial focus towards that effort for a decade  before  
9/11/2001.
  
  It's jingoist sentimment, similar to  Until then pick  up a 
tool 
  and start building, protecting   and comforting our fellow  
 Americans, 
  instead of tearing  down. that heloed contribute to Jefferson  
 Parish 
  being  denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there 
is  
   nothing more American than speaking one's mind.
  
  tony
   
  

  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If I was to  blame someone I would blame  Terrorist at Large 
 Usama 
  Bin   Laden.
   He  planned and acted out the attack of the United States of  
  America  which  
   occurred on September 11 th.
  
   He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they  
 were  
  nuclear  
   bombs and crash them into  our  buildings.

   That event caused our  Government to have to  adopt a plan to 
  prevent the  
repeat of such  attacks.

   Prior to  that event Sadam Hussien was the number  one concern 
of 
   every  
   American who was worried about terrorist   activity.

   I remember a movie with Bruce Willis  called  Armegedon In 
the 
  movie broken  
   pieces  of a meteor were  crashing into New York City and a 
cab 
  driver  looking 
   out  his  window screams; Sadam Hussien is  bombing us!

   Today,  years  later...

   No other planes have been hijacked  and  used in a similar 
 manner. 
  Thank you  
Lord!
 
   Saddam Hussien is captured. Thank  You Lord!

   The  Taliban is out of power in  Afganistan. Thank You Lord!

Afganistan is  a democratic society. Thank You Lord!

Iraq  is struggling through the early days of democracy just 
 like  
  America   did 
   in 1776 - 1863.  It took us  over 80 years to get our act   
  together.  Yet the  
   opposition wants it done in 4.  Please  don't  forget  it took 
us 
  well in the 
   1960's to stop  oppressing  our black americans! 

   If you  do not like the present  Government... Vote against it 
in 
  the  next  
   General  Election.  Until then pick up a tool  and start 
 building,  
  protecting  and 
comforting our fellow Americans, instead of  tearing down.
 
   Don't be a Katrina in human  form!
 
   God Bless America!
   God Bless The   afflicted!
   God Bless the Military!
   God Bless The  

Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Dear Sandy,
You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore her anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and they will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what happens when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue for 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does NOT speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] ONE MAN'S OPINION

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


In their dry, comfortable, homes! Where else? If these people were white, I wouldn't be writing this! Racism is alive and well in this country and they assumed Blacks are ALL from the ghetto! NOT!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:



I spent the last three days concerned about the people of theGulf Coast.

Before that I spent my days concerned about the people on the Jersey Coast.

One thing that is troubling me tonight.

With all the countries we have run into in the last 20 years with humanitarian aid and Marines, Rangers, Delta and Tac Assault Teams to protect Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia, India, etc...

Where are they?

Have they loaded ships and airplanes and sent them to Our Country?

Where is the United Nations?

Have their police departments sent equipment and personnel to sure up the local police departments "running on empty"?

Where is Bono, Bruce, John, PaulCher, Bruce Willis, so on and so forth?

Tonight I am going to sleep under the protection of my clear conscience and in the comfort of my own home.

Tomorrow their will be other traumas and critical situations to think about.

Thank you Lord for another day. Be merciful to us all.

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Lighthouse Mission
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B!  She does NOT speak 
for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is the 
Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM!

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Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Kevin,
You need to send this report in to CNN and cspan.com. This is dynamite! People have been desperate just for water, alone! This is inhumane and indecent!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

All my web names are registered with a company based in New Orleans.

I have been in constant communication with them.

They are a courageous bunch and dedicated to keeping our domain name servers up and running. Our actual web servers are in California and unaffected by the hurricane.

However if the domain name servers go down all our sites are down.

These are the names I use
lighthousemission.org
lighthousemission.com
j-e-s-u-s.com
lbnj.com
lbtoday.com
longbranch.net .info .tv
longbranchnj.com
asburypark.com
asburyparknj.com
asburyparkcity.com
asburyparkvideo.com
electricnews.com
freelongbranch.com

there are others. However these are those providing current info in the respected web sites.

Because of this I have been connected to a person in a building located in the heart of the disaster. The following is an actual post from the New Orleans Area from very reliable and credible source.

Situtation is critical.I'm not leaving, so stop asking. I'm staying. I am staying until this shitstorm has blown itself out. Period. End of discussion.

If anyone who works for or has connections with Bell South or Telcove is reading this, tell us what it's going to take to get those OC3s back up and running. We will try to coordinate and make it happen. 
My first tactical mistake. We were unprepared to accept the fuel when it arrived. The fuel arrived way too soon for us and we did not have all the empty drums down one ground floor when they got here. The driver had other deliveries to make, so rather than waste his time, I told him we'd recoordinate and be ready for him later today or tomorrow. That's the bad news. Here's the worse news:All of our providers are dropping. We're down to one. We have enough fuel to keep us powered for a long time, but we could lose internet access soon if our last provider drops. So I guess what I'm saying is that any moment could be my last moment online. If we do lose internet, Outpost Crystal might have to be abandoned by all but Sig and Myself. I've got to get Crystal out of here safely and relocated to someplace out of this state. I'm working on escape routes now.

Now for some updates:1. Been too busy to debrief the police officer, so that will come later. Low priority now.2. Buses loading people up on Camp Street to take refugees to Dallas, or so the word on the street (literally) is.3. Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over.4. National Guard shoving water off the backs of trucks. They're just pushing it off without stopping, people don't even know it's there at first -- they drop it on the side in debris, there's no sign or distribution point -- people are scared to go near it at first, because the drop points are guarded by troops or federal agents with assault rifles who don't let people come near them, which scares people off. It is a mess. When people actually get to the water, they are in such a rush to get it that one family left their small child behind and forget about him until Sig carried him back to the family

end

I am not worried about my web sitesgoing down - se le vie'

Let us keep these people in our thoughts and prayers.

I have instructed our advanced team to head home and had to wire them some money as they had to pay as much as 5.50 a gallon for gas today.

I will continue to provide info via email as aol is ok for now.

Reverend Kevin Brown
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[AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread jerseyjohn99
good point! definitions of refugee:
a person who has been forced to leave his/her home and has crossed 
an international border

Someone who has left his or her homeland because of fear of 
persecution.

One of the six legal immigrant categories, refugees are aliens who 
are unable to remain in their country of origin due to persecution 
or a well-founded fear of persecution based on race, religion, 
nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political 
opinion. Refugees are subject to ceilings by geographic area set 
annually by the President in consultation with Congress. They are 
eligible for lawful permanent resident status after one year of 
continuous presence in the United States. Refugees differ from 
asylees in that people outside the United States apply for refugee 
status, but people already in the United States...

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wrote:
 I want to know why these people are being called refugees? 
Refugees are non-citizens! They are evacuees! There are no 
Haitians, Puerto ricans or Dominicans like residents here in AP. 
These people are the descendants of French, Indian, Spanish 
who settled New Orleans in the 1700's! Refugees? NOT! CUBANS are 
refugees, not native-born citizens who have lived in Louisiana for 
over 450 years! I am indignant as it is my home town and people are 
being shuttled like cattle, separated from their babies, just like 
slavery! I say Impeach Bush and fire that FEMA director! 5 days with 
no food and water! I survived Hurricane Betsy in 1965 with 5 ft of 
water in my kitchen downstairs. I survived Camille in 1969, without 
a scratch, on St. Anthony St., which is now under water. I found out 
that in 1965 the levee was blasted on purpose in the 9th Ward, which 
is ALL-Black to save white Metarie, Was the levee blasted this time 
to get rid of all the Blacks?  500 Black people drowned that night! 
We are expendable! Can you say, IMMINENT DOMAIN? Blacks are real 
savvy to the dealings of racist whites in the south! There's not too 
much wool you can pull over thier eyes! The Federal government was 
asked for funds after a dry run on this type of tradgedy a year ago! 
The government saud, NO! The money was sent to IRAQ! The 165 year 
old home of former White Citizens Council Member, trent Lott will be 
rebuilt, FIRST! New Orleans is 78% Black, Asbury Park is 80% Black. 
Watch what happens to New Orleans and Asbury Park will be dealt the 
same, only on a smaller scale! Nothing changes! Spare me your 
comments!
 A Strong Black Woman
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can 
overcome THEM!

So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to cooperate there 
Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world to vilify gays!... You do 
know that your hero sandy is a gay person, right?




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark






Tom,
In reference to your 
comment:

How many times do I have to read 
  that my thinking is akin to McCarthyism 
As you have asked of others in the past, I ask you to re-read my 
post. You alluded to McCarthy, and I commented on him.

I know satire very well, and it requires a bit more finesse to be 
effective.

BTW: "Dittohead" is a term of endearment among Rushians. If you 
read it carefully, you'll see that I finessed the sentence with "Only" to avoid 
a direct hit, in case you were simply being sarcastic.

To say that "Joe may have gone too far" is a terrific use of 
understatement.



Original 
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Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
9/2/2005 5:11:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time
  
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To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:  
Dittohead! Thank you Mario! By 
the way you do know satire and sarcasm when you read it, don't you? 
How many times do I have to read that my thinking is akin to McCarthyism 
before I have a little fun and claim that I am like him?Joe may have 
gone too far, but on a serious note, his original intentions were 
good. There were Commies here, Commies were un-American and would have 
doomed us all if we didn't stop them.Funny how I can get called names 
like McCarthyist without anyone crying foul, but if I were to call one of 
you guys a Commie people would erupt at me. Double standards are 
fun!--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   In reference to BB82's comment: 
   I liked McCarthy. I Long for the old 
House Un-American Activities  Committee!!! McCarthy died 
totally discredited, and a pathetic drunk. Only a Rush  
history revisionist ditto-head would believe otherwise.  
If I were to "long" for a return of influence by any Republican, it 
would be  for the likes of Eisenhower, or William Buckley, or even 
Barry Goldwater: all  honorable men who didn't practice slime 
politics.   Original Message 
 Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame  Date: 
9/2/2005 3:15:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on:  
 I liked McCarthy. I Long for the old House Un-American 
Activities  Committee!!!   --- In 
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  Sorry for the previous incomplete post.   
In reference to Eboz/Tony's comment: 
  It's jingoist sentimment,  Right 
on!But be forewarned those who would use 
such terms as jingoist and  McCarthy.   
Some here will refer to Godwin's or somebody else's law and then 
 declare the   discussion over.  
  George Bush (and all the jingoists): Always 
certain. Usually  wrong!   
 Mario   
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Message  Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who  
to blame   Date: 9/2/2005 11:57:53 AM Eastern Daylight 
Time From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on:  
  Rev,  I appreciate you sentiment, but one 
can still talk while  operating   a shovel, and 
thank the Lord for that!In my quite long 
winded post, I made documentation available that   
clearly displays the power brokers who have the president's ear  
have   been zealously advocateding invasion of Iraq and 
throwing intense   financial focus towards that effort for 
a decade before 9/11/2001.It's 
jingoist sentimment, similar to "Until then pick up a tool 
  and start building, protecting and comforting our 
fellow  Americans,   instead of tearing down." 
that heloed contribute to Jefferson  Parish   
being denied funds that WOULD HAVE SAVED LIVES. In fact, there 
is   nothing more American than speaking one's 
mind.tony 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   If I was to blame someone I would 
blame Terrorist at Large  Usama   Bin 
Laden.   He planned and acted out the attack of the United 
States of   America which
occurred on September 11 th.   
He had trained others to fly commercial aircraft as if they  
were   nuclearbombs and crash them 
into our buildings.  That 
event caused our Government to have to adopt a plan to   
prevent therepeat of such attacks. 
 Prior to that event Sadam Hussien was 
the number one concern of   every  
  American who was worried about terrorist activity. 
 I remember a movie with Bruce Willis 
called "Armegedon" In the   movie broken  
  pieces of a meteor were crashing into New York City and a 
cab   driver lookingout 
his window screams; "Sadam Hussien is bombing us!"  
Today, years later...  
No other planes have been hijacked and 
used in a similar  manner.   Thank you   
 Lord!  Saddam Hussien 
is captured. Thank You Lord!  
The Taliban is out of power in Afganistan. Thank You Lord! 
 Afganistan is a democratic 
society. Thank You Lord!  
Iraq is struggling through the early days of democracy just  
like   

Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Not vilifying anyone! Knew one of you would be offended though! You're like Jews who think that the Holocaust gives you an excuse to do anything YOU want! Blacks are STILL waiting to be liberated! You compare your cause with ours. I think not! yours is a lifestyle, ours is a matte of race and access. You can still be a white man if you want! I don't have a choice in being Black! Are you tolerant? Bet if I come into the Club Paradise,by the beach, I'll be as welcome as a sore thumb! No STRAIGHTS ALLOWED! Don't care if you're gay. Doesn't bother me a bit! You want acceptance, Blacks want ACCESS and Equal Rights, Fair Housing, Affordable housing and Education!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:11PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:...AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!Sonowcitiesbelongtospecificracesofpeople?NicewaytocooperatethereSharon...Happytoseeit'sstillsafeinyourworldtovilifygays!...Youdoknowthatyourhero"sandy"isagayperson,right?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Not vilifying anyone! Knew one of you would be offended though! 
You're like Jews who think that the Holocaust gives you an excuse to do 
anything YOU want! Blacks are STILL waiting to be liberated! You 
compare your cause with ours. I think not! yours is a lifestyle, ours 
is a matte of race and access. You can still be a white man if you 
want! I don't have a choice in being Black! Are you tolerant? Bet if I 
come into the Club Paradise, by the beach, I'll be as welcome as a sore 
thumb! No STRAIGHTS ALLOWED! Don't care if you're gay. Doesn't bother 
me a bit! You want acceptance, Blacks want ACCESS and Equal Rights, 
Fair Housing, Affordable housing and Education!


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Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my husband! He's quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's homophobic and admits it!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:I'llmeetyouatParadise,orany"gay"club/baranytimeyouwant.I'llstandbehindyouatthebarandwitnessthatthey'llgladlytakeyourmoney.(Yourmoneyisgreen,right?)Thenyoucanturnaroundandtellmeyou'resorryformakingthewildaccusationsyouaremakingbelow.~joeAt9:42PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:Notvilifyinganyone!Knewoneofyouwouldbeoffendedthough!You'relikeJewswhothinkthattheHolocaustgivesyouanexcusetodoanythingYOUwant!BlacksareSTILLwaitingtobeliberated!Youcompareyourcausewithours.Ithinknot!yoursisalifestyle,oursisamatteofraceandaccess.Youcanstillbeawhitemanifyouwant!Idon'thaveachoiceinbeingBlack!Areyoutolerant?BetifIcomeintotheClubParadise,bythebeach,I'llbeaswelcomeasasorethumb!NoSTRAIGHTSALLOWED!Don'tcareifyou'regay.Doesn'tbothermeabit!Youwantacceptance,BlackswantACCESSandEqualRights,FairHousing,AffordablehousingandEducation!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
Mario,  since I said Thank You for calling me a Dittohead, didn't 
that tip you off that I knew what it was?  Once again, Thank You!  I 
wear the Dittohead tag proudly!  Mega-dittos, Rush!!!





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Re:(2) [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 9:42 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
Not vilifying anyone! Knew one of you would be offended though!

Oh, I see. You intentionally put a phrase in your message that you knew would 
be offensive to some people who are members of this Yahoo community. Nice one.  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my 
husband! He's quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's 
homophobic and admits it!
 

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Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 9:58 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my husband! He's 
quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's homophobic and admits it!

Well if he's homophobic then it's best he doesn't come along with us. When do 
you want to go? The pool at Paradise is open during the day this weekend and 
the weather promises to be wonderful. Shall I pick you up or do you want to 
meet me there?  ~joe



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark







In reference toBB's 
comment:

Once again, Thank You! I wear 
  the Dittohead tag proudly! Mega-dittos, 
Rush!!!

Ditto: "Oh...My...God."
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Mario, since I said "Thank You" for calling 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
LOL Mario!  You crack me up!


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 Once again, Thank You!  I 
 wear  the Dittohead tag proudly!  Mega-dittos,  Rush!!!
 
 
 Ditto: Oh...My...God.
 
 
 
 
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 Mario,  since I said Thank You for calling  me a Dittohead, 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark






Tom,
In reference to your 
comment:

LOL Mario! You crack me 
  up!
More sarcasm, eh? lolOriginal Message 

  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
  
Date:
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LOL Mario! You crack me up!--- 
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  In reference to BB's comment:
Once again, Thank You! I  wear the Dittohead tag 
proudly! Mega-dittos, Rush!!!   Ditto: 
"Oh...My...God." 
Original Message  Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: 
Who to blame  Date: 9/2/2005 6:00:45 PM Eastern Daylight 
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(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on:   
Mario, since I said "Thank You" for calling me a Dittohead, 
didn't  that tip you off that I knew what it was? Once 
again, Thank You! I  wear the Dittohead tag proudly! 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
No sarcasm there at all.  I disagree with mush of what you say on 
national politics, but concede you are the wittiest guy on this 
board!  What you said below was a great shot at me.  I can laugh at 
me!

Now watch someone say something silly like yeah I can laugh at you 
too, BB.


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 Tom,
 In reference to your  comment: 
 
 
 LOL Mario!  You crack me  up!
 More sarcasm, eh?   lol
 
 
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blame  
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  In reference to BB's  comment: 
  
  
   Once again, Thank You!  I 
  wear  the Dittohead tag  proudly!  Mega-dittos,  Rush!!!
  
  
  Ditto:  Oh...My...God.
  
  
  
  
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  wear the Dittohead tag proudly!   Mega-dittos,  Rush!!!
  
  
  
  
  
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[AsburyPark] Huge Oil Spill

2005-09-02 Thread bluebishop82
The news is reporting that two giant oil tanks capable of holding 
160,000 barrels of oil are spilling into the Mississippi right now. 
Pictures show a giant oil slick.

They are really having a bad week there.

I could have used that oil, too.




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Re:(2) [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Are you a lawyer? Can you read my mind? Intentional means, I meant to do it, on purpose! Take it whichever way you want. I just knew you would! Predictable! Leave me alone! Pick on those who don't like you for what you are. Like I said, YOU can STILL be WHITE! You're a Black-Hater!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:42PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:Notvilifyinganyone!Knewoneofyouwouldbeoffendedthough!Oh,Isee.YouintentionallyputaphraseinyourmessagethatyouknewwouldbeoffensivetosomepeoplewhoaremembersofthisYahoocommunity.Niceone.~joeYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Have a previous enggement!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:58PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:I'llbet!Whiletheothersrolltheireyesatmeandleeratmyhusband!He'squiteahunk!Myhusbandwouldnevercomethere.He'shomophobicandadmitsit!Wellifhe'shomophobicthenit'sbesthedoesn'tcomealongwithus.Whendoyouwanttogo?ThepoolatParadiseisopenduringthedaythisweekendandtheweatherpromisestobewonderful.ShallIpickyouupordoyouwanttomeetmethere?~joeYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Do not rebuild. Agree with JJ

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


So tell that to Chicago and San Francisco, or better, Asbury Park!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"oakdorf"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:NotonlynotrebuildallofNorleans,butalsoanyhousethatwasbuiltonsticks.LikeonewoemnsaidonCNNlastnight".thisisonlythe3rdtimein35yearswe'verebuild'Orsomeoneelse'wedidacostbenefitanalysis-webuiltthesewallsforacat3hurricane..."YOucouldseethemathhere(jj,thisisyourarea...).Savingallofthatareaisnuts.Goahead,buildonthebeach.We'vehadhalf-assstormsthatdumpedsandonthebwandoceanave.TheCasinoandCHsurvivedbetterthentheytheydotodayundertotalneglectunderfatherAsbury.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Com'on there, you know exactly why I call him sonny boy!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Sandy why call him sonnyboy?  Is not every man someone's son?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Shame on you. you know sonny boy wasn't doing nothing for I believe 
was 9 minutes. He kept making strange faces to the kiddies.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 
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 BB...
 
 I admire your stamina for arguing with someone who most likely 
 believes Bush did nothing for 7 minutes while America was being 
 attacked 4 years ago.
 
 By the way...Why is it, when the US was attacked by Japan in 1941, 
our 
 first reaction was to attack Libya? That doesn't make sense, does 
it? 
 Everyone KNOWS the Libyans had nothing to do with bombing Pearl 
 Harbor. We should have focused all of our efforts on defeating 
Japan, 
 proclaiming victory, and bringing the boys home from the Pacific.  
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sandy why call him sonnyboy?  Is not every man someone's son?




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Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Kevin, you said, "You were told." Well, I saw the inmates sitting on the overpass, heavily guarded, so it wasn't the inmates. Are you crazy? Do you think New Orleans is run by a savage? The man was just elected back in November, as was the governor! Marc Morial was the mayor prior to that and Sidney Barthelemy before him! Marc's father "Dutch" was my attorney and the 1st Black Mayor. You know so little about the "real" New Orleans. You go there to "redeem" who? The tourists? New Orleans is predominantly Catholic and civilized under "normal" circumstances. You've "assumed" a lot about the residents there. I'm upset because if I said that Long Branch is filled with low-life drug dealers, poor Blacks and Puerto Ricans, I'd sound biased. I beleive all people are inherently good! The stories are overblown due to lack of communications. I beleive the feds are building a good excuse for "martial law"! This is a good test case for the "concentration camps" to come! Calling American Citizens, "refugees", which they are not! They are Citizens, not something in off the street! These people work, pray and play in "the Crescent City", not The Big Easy as some like to call it! You need to study the history and culture before you label everybody! To say I'm upset is an understatement.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

I sent a lead team down to New Orleans and they called in tonight. Just about 30 minutes ago.

I have two special and close people (One is Family) and she lived in New Orleans for a couple of years. On this special assignment.

I was told the jails were releasing inmates and warning people to get out of the city.

Today they saw street gangs walking around with automatic weapons. AK 47 machine guns and things of that nature.

The city is in total chaos.

The officials they met with told them not to send things into the city but to use the red cross.

They are now heading west to check out Biloxi.

Rev. Kevin Brown
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[AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Unfortunately they are being called refugees because they are 
black. Do you think that if they were oil barons sonny boy would 
only be getting the troops with supplies there today? Four days 
after the fact!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I want to know why these people are being called refugees? 
Refugees are non-citizens! They are evacuees! There are no 
Haitians, Puerto ricans or Dominicans like residents here in AP. 
These people are the descendants of French, Indian, Spanish 
who settled New Orleans in the 1700's! Refugees? NOT! CUBANS are 
refugees, not native-born citizens who have lived in Louisiana for 
over 450 years! I am indignant as it is my home town and people are 
being shuttled like cattle, separated from their babies, just like 
slavery! I say Impeach Bush and fire that FEMA director! 5 days with 
no food and water! I survived Hurricane Betsy in 1965 with 5 ft of 
water in my kitchen downstairs. I survived Camille in 1969, without 
a scratch, on St. Anthony St., which is now under water. I found out 
that in 1965 the levee was blasted on purpose in the 9th Ward, which 
is ALL-Black to save white Metarie, Was the levee blasted this time 
to get rid of all the Blacks?  500 Black people drowned that night! 
We are expendable! Can you say, IMMINENT DOMAIN? Blacks are real 
savvy to the dealings of racist whites in the south! There's not too 
much wool you can pull over thier eyes! The Federal government was 
asked for funds after a dry run on this type of tradgedy a year ago! 
The government saud, NO! The money was sent to IRAQ! The 165 year 
old home of former White Citizens Council Member, trent Lott will be 
rebuilt, FIRST! New Orleans is 78% Black, Asbury Park is 80% Black. 
Watch what happens to New Orleans and Asbury Park will be dealt the 
same, only on a smaller scale! Nothing changes! Spare me your 
comments!
 A Strong Black Woman
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 FROM MY DOMAIN SERVER CREW IN NEW ORLEANS:POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN 
The Real News
 The following is the result of an interview I just conducted via 
cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention 
Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or 
in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here 
is the truth:
 
 Bigfoot is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a 
local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of 
the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the 
Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood 
waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes 
while he talked and then I asked some questions:
 
 Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to 
head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await 
transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the 
Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told 
would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this 
area. 
 
 It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear. 
 
 Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 
10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention 
center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and 
no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National 
Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over 
the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies 
were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the 
supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to 
walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, 
but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in 
weapons being aimed at them.
 
 There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as 
many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood 
water and the like -- all of them in dire straights. 
 
 Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away 
at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with 
people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been 
at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been 
stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are 
kids. 
 
 The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can 
think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. 
These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery 
in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning 
the windows and anything else that would show the people are not 
barbarians.
 
 The buses never stop.
 
 Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had 
to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water 
for their families. There was not enough. This spurred many families 
to break into cars to 

[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of A.P 
and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for the 
people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for aid 
in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are with 
all the victims of this natural disaster.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Dear Sandy,
 You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of 
Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! 
You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep 
for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore her 
anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and they 
will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what happens 
when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the 
usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue for 
5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B!  She does NOT 
speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is 
the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome 
THEM!
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your 
obligations 
 to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our 
 waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). 
 Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you are, 
we 
 are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the Gulf 
 states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry about 
too 
 much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are 
only 
 a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing 
compared 
 to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this 
 board). 
 Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury Park!
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
  
 Funny how I can get called names like McCarthyist without anyone
 crying foul, but if I were to call one of you guys a Commie people
 would erupt at me.  Double standards are fun!
 
Actually I'll be the first to admit that so called communism as you
describe the Russians and stuff is far from the original idea of communism
as I perceive it.  And I'll admit to being a Bellamist.  That is, I think
the writing of Edward Bellamy would lead to a better society or even a
Utopian society.  And I'm well aware that some of the aspects are based on
communism.  They just don't deal with the guns or military aspects of
communism that have dominated places like Russia, Cuba or China.
Personally, I think they have butchered the idea of communism in the same
way the Taliban has butchered the idea of Muslim religion; however, the
president always points out that not all Muslims believe that way.  Somehow
people think all communists think the same way -the Russian way.  I'd like
to believe that the communes of the '60s were a more representative manner
of communism.

For those of you that are very religious, I ask you what is more God-like?
The idea of everyone helping one another and sharing resources together or
capitalism where everyone is out for themselves?  Communism was most likely
here first before humans got greedy.



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
Title: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame





 
BTW: Dittohead is a term of endearment among Rushians. If you read it carefully, you'll see that I finessed the sentence with Only to avoid a direct hit, in case you were simply being sarcastic.

The entire idea of Dittoheads show how ridiculous that culture really is. Would you rather admit to being a sheep blindly agreeing with everything someone says or prefer to have your own thoughts? Dittoheads think Rush only tells the truth when a zillion facts will show otherwise.





  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
 ... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or 
Whites can overcome THEM!
 
 So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to 
cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world 
to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero sandy is a gay person, 
right?




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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
 ... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or 
Whites can overcome THEM!
 
 So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to 
cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world 
to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero sandy is a gay person, 
right?





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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or 
whatever or if im male or female.
Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other 
site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little 
man.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 9:11 PM + 9/2/05, Sharon G. Boone wrote:
 ... All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or 
Whites can overcome THEM!
 
 So now cities belong to specific races of people? Nice way to 
cooperate there Sharon... Happy to see it's still safe in your world 
to vilify gays!... You do know that your hero sandy is a gay person, 
right?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Why should you embarress your loving family like that? ;~)-


-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Mario,  since I said Thank You for calling me a Dittohead, didn't 
 that tip you off that I knew what it was?  Once again, Thank You!  I 
 wear the Dittohead tag proudly!  Mega-dittos, Rush!!!




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[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 Sure Sandy.  You can say it's all the President's fault.  I, of 
course, 
 refuse to blame President Clinton for Hurricane Andrew. 

 Has anyone corrected you yet on this, BB?  Hurricane Andrew 
occured under the glorious reign of King Geo. Bush I.  He had a 
political hack in charge of FEMA, and as a result proceeded to make a 
horrible situation worse.  Bush, Sr.'s aloofness during that 
hurricane's devastation has been considered to be one of the factors 
in his inability to win a 2nd term.  President Clinton put a non-
partisan professional in charge of FEMA.  His name was James Lee 
Witt.  For eight years FEMA ran like a well-oiled machine, until 
Sonny Boy, that n'er do well spoiled frat boy, put another hack in 
charge of FEMA and then folded FEMA into the department of homeland 
security, which he in turn put in the hands of a LAWYER!  So it is 
indee very generous of you not to blame Clinton for Hurricane 
Andrew.  At least the people in New Orleans know the truth.  Many are 
referring to their city as Lake George in honor of the guy who 
couldn't possibly have imagined that the levees could be breached 
despite books, numerous articles, and programs predicting just that 
scenerio.
 If Bush's failures in this area do not amount to active 
genocide, they seem to me to be a case of passive genocide by 
neglect. 
  And please don't waste your prayers on me.  If I'm headed for 
the infernal regions, I'll be sure to say hello to George, Dick, 
Karl, Condi (I hope the shoes she bought in Ferragamos in NYC 
YESTERDAY are asbestos lined), and the rest of that gang for you.
 Frank D'Alessandro


 
 
 
 

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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
I never thought i'd see the day a lawyer was lost for words. It is a 
brand new day!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my 
 husband! He's quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's 
 homophobic and admits it!
  
 
 Oh...my...God




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to "takeover" Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion on where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay neighbors and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, "no flames" in my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Huge Oil Spill

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Yeah. You need to slick that hair back, dude. :~)
















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 The news is reporting that two giant oil tanks capable of holding 
 160,000 barrels of oil are spilling into the Mississippi right 
now. 
 Pictures show a giant oil slick.
 
 They are really having a bad week there.
 
 I could have used that oil, too.





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[AsburyPark] MSNBC TELETHON

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said George Bush 
doesn't care about black people. Did he think he was telling us 
something we didn't know already?





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans Update

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


A refugee is a foreigner! To call us that is to say we are NOT citizens! The people were "evacuated". They are "evacuees"! been in this country longer than some people in this forum! It sickens me to be marginalized! If gays want the same rights as Blacks, "come and get 'em"!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Unfortunatelytheyarebeingcalled"refugees"becausetheyareblack.Doyouthinkthatiftheywereoilbaronssonnyboywouldonlybegettingthetroopswithsuppliestheretoday?Fourdaysafterthefact!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Iwanttoknowwhythesepeoplearebeingcalled"refugees"?Refugeesarenon-citizens!Theyare"evacuees"!TherearenoHaitians,PuertoricansorDominicanslikeresidentshereinAP.ThesepeoplearethedescendantsofFrench,Indian,Spanishwho"settled"NewOrleansinthe1700's!Refugees?NOT!CUBANSarerefugees,notnative-borncitizenswhohavelivedinLouisianaforover450years!Iamindignantasitismyhometownandpeoplearebeingshuttledlikecattle,separatedfromtheirbabies,justlikeslavery!IsayImpeachBushandfirethatFEMAdirector!5dayswithnofoodandwater!IsurvivedHurricaneBetsyin1965with5ftofwaterinmykitchendownstairs.IsurvivedCamillein1969,withoutascratch,onSt.AnthonySt.,whichisnowunderwater.Ifoundoutthatin1965theleveewasblastedonpurposeinthe9thWard,whichisALL-BlacktosavewhiteMetarie,WastheleveeblastedthistimetogetridofalltheBlacks?500Blackpeopledrownedthatnight!Weareexpendable!Canyousay,"IMMINENTDOMAIN"?Blacksarerealsavvytothedealingsofracistwhitesinthesouth!There'snottoomuchwoolyoucanpulloverthiereyes!TheFederalgovernmentwasaskedforfundsafteradryrunonthistypeoftradgedyayearago!Thegovernmentsaud,NO!ThemoneywassenttoIRAQ!The165yearoldhomeofformerWhiteCitizensCouncilMember,trentLottwillberebuilt,FIRST!NewOrleansis78%Black,AsburyParkis80%Black.WatchwhathappenstoNewOrleansandAsburyParkwillbedealtthesame,onlyonasmallerscale!Nothingchanges!Sparemeyourcomments!AStrongBlackWomanSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL 

Re: [AsburyPark] pandora's box

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


So why don't you get your white sheet out and your crosses?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--traderdube[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Lightywrote..."voiceoftheENTIREtown..."OnlywaytoomanyofthevoicesoftheentiretownaremuchlikethebottomfeedingscumsuckingpigsthatarelootingshopsandhomesalongtheKatrinaravagedGulfCoast.ThevoicesofsensibilityandreasonneedtoriseasoneanddemandthattheCityofAsburyParkstopslootingthetaxrevenuesandothermoniesthatcomeacrosstheircoffersandgivetolawenforcementsothatthestreetthugsandderelictsthatdragAPdowncanbedealtwithruthlessly.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: Updated Who To Blame,

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Dear Rev. Brown, What I was trying to point out is the fact that if 
sonny boy had acted earlier alot of the suffering could have been 
avoided. The prisoners should have been bussed before the storm, to 
prisons elsewhere. Maybe if sonny boy was in DC instead of 
vacationing in Tx. there could have been a plan and the criminal 
activities could have been lessen.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 In a message dated 9/2/2005 5:06:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:
 
 Message:  12
 Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:24:27  -
 From: sandy  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Who to blame
 
 What is  finally rolling into the disaster area now should have 
been 
 ready to roll  in there on Tues. Wed. the lastest.
 
 By the way, I've been a team member  for 20 years.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sandy nothing  personal but you seem to forget the jails let every 
one out on 
 Monday so  they wouldn't drown to death.  Instead of being 
appreciative that  
 compassion was shown them, they broke into the gun shops and 
raided them for  
 machine guns and ammo.
  
 Then when the entire criminal population of New Orleans was armed 
for  bear.  
 The rescue crews who attempted to assist the distressed got   
freaken shot 
 at...
  
 There you go.  Be mad at Bush for not confronting the 4500 
criminals  at 
 large with guns face to face.  AFterall he is a Texan and has a 
few guns  of his 
 own.
  
 I think he should have called Chuck Norris, Arnold Swartznegger 
and Bruce  
 Willis and Stallone impressed them into service and heloed in to 
Battle...
  
 Matter of fact Sandy it is really my fault... really.
  
 I was at Mardi Gras a few years ago.  I was on a soap box 
preaching  Christ 
 to them as the bible instructs me to do.  As I was bringing 
forth  a fiery 
 message someone threw and hit me in the head with a  coconut.   If 
anybody 
 knows, the coconut is the most coveted prize of the parade.
  
 Anyway... Instead of demanding retribution for the assault I 
prophesied a  
 terrible thing would happen upon those that scorn the innocent in 
this  City.
  
 So Blame me.
  
 Kevin Brown




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Re: [AsburyPark] MSNBC TELETHON

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Can't have that, huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SingerKayeWestwasjustcutofftheairbecausehesaid"GeorgeBushdoesn'tcareaboutblackpeople".Didhethinkhewastellingussomethingwedidn'tknowalready?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] MSNBC TELETHON

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
On 9/2/05 8:51 PM, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said George Bush
 doesn't care about black people. Did he think he was telling us
 something we didn't know already?
 
Aren't you a little surprised ( I was) that it even made it on the air in
this era of 5 and 10 second delays?

BTW, I loved the expression Mike Myers had on his face when it was said.  On
a lighter note, did you know that a musician from Monmouth County was also
on Kanye West's Grammy winning album?  Just another sign of the talent in
this area.



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[AsburyPark] Vacation is Over-A letter from Michael Moore to George Bush

2005-09-02 Thread luvinasburypark







  




  
  
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Friday, September 2nd, 2005 
Dear Mr. Bush: 
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and 
thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on 
earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help 
finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag. 

Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use 
them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with 
national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with? 
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of 
Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was 
pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes 
without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New 
Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to 
interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you 
had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You 
sure showed her! 
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to 
Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let 
people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the 
heck could you do, put your finger in the dike? 
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you 
specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this 
summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't 
cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers 
to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for 
them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ! 
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved 
by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over 
New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you 
couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a 
commander in chief. Been there done that. 
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it 
against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. 
Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in 
the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this 
inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is 
nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one 
F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland. 
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent 
of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation 
to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to 
Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five 
days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this! 
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters 
and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are 
near Tikrit. 
Yours, 
Michael Moore[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.MichaelMoore.com 
P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and 
dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the 
country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get 
to DC on September 21st.
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[AsburyPark] gas pirates....

2005-09-02 Thread oakdorf
Oakhust Service Station, outdid Getty between 3-5pm today -going from 
3.49 to 3.85. 

Wanamassa Jersey Oil @ 3.73 as is Monmouth Oil on Rt 35 in OT. The oil 
co's will force the small guys to close/stop selling gas.

Some operators are simply closing, refusing to sell as not to take 
grief from loyal customers. 






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[AsburyPark] Re: MSNBC TELETHON

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Hey Sharon! I guess Kaye will slam down the phone on Katie Curic 
when she calls him next summer to do a free Today Show concert! LOL

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rote:
 Can't have that, huh?
 
 
 Sharon Boone
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 -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Singer Kaye West was just cut off the air because he said George 
Bush 
 doesn't care about black people. Did he think he was telling us 
 something we didn't know already?
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame

2005-09-02 Thread Lighty
  
  Isn't that what we have now?  If you don't agree with everything
 this
 president says or does you have been deemed un-american.
 
 I pay close attention to conservative publications and blogs.  I
 don't see anyone on our side calling your side un-American.  I
 constantly see your side accusing us of calling you un-American.
 Very curious behavior on your part.  Maybe it's some sort of guilty
 feeling for your postions?

Read closely into that last line.  Kinda sounds like what people would have
said in Germany back in the day, doesn't it?

If we don't blindly follow this president I guess we must be wrong and
somehow feel guilty about it.

Not.



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: MSNBC TELETHON

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Sandy,
Don't know! I guess I'd better turn it on. Listening to CNN and looking for relatives that I haven't heard from yet. Mind on something else. SorrySharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:HeySharon!IguessKayewillslamdownthephoneonKatieCuricwhenshecallshimnextsummertodoafree"TodayShow"concert!LOL---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Can'thavethat,huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SingerKayeWestwasjustcutofftheairbecausehesaid"GeorgeBushdoesn'tcareaboutblackpeople".Didhethinkhewastellingussomethingwedidn'tknowalready?Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] butch saunders

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Thought I read 33 months in the paper. Did I miss something?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:








You know why he's not being sentenced yet




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Everybody wants to take over Asbury Park, esp. the crooked 
polititions.!-

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you 
were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend 
anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to takeover 
Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just 
repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion on 
where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay neighbors 
and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, no flames in 
my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get 
offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, 
man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts!
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of A.P 
 and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for 
the 
 people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for 
aid 
 in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are with 
 all the victims of this natural disaster.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Dear Sandy,
  You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of 
 Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! 
 You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep 
 for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore 
her 
 anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and 
they 
 will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what 
happens 
 when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the 
 usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue 
for 
 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B!  She does 
NOT 
 speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is 
 the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome 
 THEM!
  
  
  Sharon Boone
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your 
 obligations 
  to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our 
  waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). 
  Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you 
are, 
 we 
  are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the 
Gulf 
  states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry 
about 
 too 
  much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There are 
 only 
  a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing 
 compared 
  to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on this 
  board). 
  Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury 
Park!
  
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Are you telling me they haven't?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:EverybodywantstotakeoverAsburyPark,esp.thecrookedpolititions.!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sandy,nooffensetaken!Iwasupsetwhentherespondersaidyouweregay,thenIfeltapologeticbecauseIdon'twanttooffendanyone!Gayorstraight!BlackssaytheGayswantto"takeover"AsburyParkandsqueezetheBlacksout!Notmywords!Justrepeating!Ihearitallthetime!Ireallydon'thaveanopiniononwheregayschoosetolive.Don'tcare!Mydaughterhasgayneighborsandtheyarewarmandcaring,whichwaswhyIsaid,"noflames"inmylastpost!Idon'tcarewhatyousayhere,someonewillgetoffended.WhatI'mtryingtosayis,don'tcarewhatyouare,man/woman/straight/gay.Ienjoyyourposts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
I hear they're working on it still! :~)

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Are you telling me they haven't?
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Everybody wants to take over Asbury Park, esp. the crooked 
 polititions.!-
 
 -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you 
 were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend 
 anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to takeover 
 Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just 
 repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion 
on 
 where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay 
neighbors 
 and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, no flames in 
 my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get 
 offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, 
 man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts!
  
  
  Sharon Boone
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sharon, Im sorry that you didn't see that I was making fun of 
A.P 
  and not the victims of the gulf coast. My heart is breaking for 
 the 
  people down there. None of us should have to wait this long for 
 aid 
  in that heat. I apoligize if you are offended. My prayers are 
with 
  all the victims of this natural disaster.
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   Dear Sandy,
   You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of 
  Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the 
City! 
  You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a 
creep 
  for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore 
 her 
  anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and 
 they 
  will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what 
 happens 
  when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not 
the 
  usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue 
 for 
  5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B!  She does 
 NOT 
  speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say 
is 
  the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can 
overcome 
  THEM!
   
   
   Sharon Boone
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   -- sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   We the people of Asbury Park do hereby releve you of your 
  obligations 
   to the City of Asbury Park in your contract to re-develope our 
   waterfront. (Not that you have any future plans, anyway). 
   Since we know what a great humanitarian organiztion that you 
 are, 
  we 
   are letting to out of your contract so that you may go to the 
 Gulf 
   states to redevelop their coastline. You won't have to worry 
 about 
  too 
   much eminent domain issues or demolishing of property. There 
are 
  only 
   a few MINOR problems you will face but they will be nothing 
  compared 
   to what you faced in Asbury Park( I won't name any names on 
this 
   board). 
   Well Godspeed and Goodriddence-your friends forever in Asbury 
 Park!
   
   
   
   
   

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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 12:25 AM + 9/3/05, sandy wrote:
Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or
whatever or if im male or female.
Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other
site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little
man.

Your yahoo profile says you are a 21 year-old female. And you'd have to be 
either gay or lesbian to be a member of what you refer to as the other site.  
Am I wrong?




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Academic Symposium on Bruce

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


What's wrong with being a progressive liberal? I'm one and proud of it! To be liberal is to be FREE! To be conservative is to be restrictive, limited, narrowminded and afraid of science! Butterflys are Free and so am I! Proud of it too! What are you afraid of? Scared one of us will get your job? Spot in school? Won't work with professional women? What? To call yourself a conservative is souther code-talk for segregationists, afraid of Jews, Blacks and Others from mixing. don't like mixing, huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Provingmypointthatday-trippingtourismwillhappenherewhetherweaskforitornot,500academicsarecomingtothePony.Residencesontheotherhandwon'tjustbuildthemselves-youhavetohavearedevelopmentplanconcentratingonthem.Bytheway,pleaseletmeknowthedaypointy-headedacademicknow-it-allliberalsconsumedbytheconceptofMarxismwillbeintownsoIcanremembernottobeherethatday.If2centsofmykids'collegetuitiongetsspentonastudyofatheallimportantCommunism/SpringsteenconnectionIwillpullthemoutofschool!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"jerseyjohn99"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050830/us_nm/life_springsteen_dcNEWYORK(Reuters)-"AMarxistPerspectiveon'DarknessontheEdgeofTown"'and"TheBossandtheBible"areamongtheacademicpaperstobepresentedwhenaNewJerseyuniversityhostsanacademicsymposiumdevotedentirelytoBruceSpringsteen.Morethan150papersbyacademicsfromacrosstheUnitedStates,Sweden,Canada,ItalyandBritainwillbepresentedatthesymposium,dissectingeverythingfromthesinger'spatriotismtohisruminationsoftheworkingmanAHEMorethan500peopleareexpectedtoattendtheevent,whichwillincludeoutingstotheStonePony,thefabledmusicvenuewhereSpringsteenfirstairedhisspecialbrandofrock.(gee...500professorsmakingbigbucksarecomingtothePony.Iwonderiftheyareplanningtospendanymoneywhiletheyareintown???Anddon'ttheyrealizeBrucedidn'tevengethisstartatthePony,andforhistoricalaccuracytheyshouldgotoCruisin'instead?)AHE.Springsteenisnotthefirstmusiciantobehonoredbyanacademicconferencerevolvingaroundhiswork.TheBeatleshaveinspiredsimilaracademicefforts.(Yeah,Ipaid10poundsfortheLiverpoolMagicalMysteryTour,andforanother15quidIhadmyhaircutpicturetakenonPennyLane.Butofcourse,itwasarebuiltCavernClubitwasn'tthesamebarberthatwascuttinghairbackintheearly'60s,soinsomepeople'smindsIshouldhavejustgonetoLiverpooltoadmiretheboxesboxesofluxurycondos).Quick,someonehelpmespraypaintchunksofcinderblocksneongreensellthemfor$20eachthatweekend.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Funny, I thought it was a done deal!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Ihearthey'reworkingonitstill!:~)---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Areyoutellingmetheyhaven't?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:EverybodywantstotakeoverAsburyPark,esp.thecrookedpolititions.!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sandy,nooffensetaken!Iwasupsetwhentherespondersaidyouweregay,thenIfeltapologeticbecauseIdon'twanttooffendanyone!Gayorstraight!BlackssaytheGayswantto"takeover"AsburyParkandsqueezetheBlacksout!Notmywords!Justrepeating!Ihearitallthetime!Ireallydon'thaveanopiniononwheregayschoosetolive.Don'tcare!Mydaughterhasgayneighborsandtheyarewarmandcaring,whichwaswhyIsaid,"noflames"inmylastpost!Idon'tcarewhatyousayhere,someonewillgetoffended.WhatI'mtryingtosayis,don'tcarewhatyouare,man/woman/straight/gay.Ienjoyyourposts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
Oh Joey, baby. I gave you more credit than that. You know you can't 
believe everything you read. You are sneeky. Are you a private dick or 
just a little one? ;~)-

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:25 AM + 9/3/05, sandy wrote:
 Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or
 whatever or if im male or female.
 Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other
 site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up little
 man.
 
 Your yahoo profile says you are a 21 year-old female. And you'd have 
to be either gay or lesbian to be a member of what you refer to 
as the other site.  Am I wrong?





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Not touching this one but you assume a lot! You know what assume does, huh? Assume makes an ass out of u and me!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At12:25AM+9/3/05,sandywrote:HeyJoe,Youdon'tknowifimstraightorgay,whiteorblackorwhateverorifimmaleorfemale.NowthatIoffendedyouagain,Iguessyou'llgobacktotheothersiteandcomplainaboutmeagain.Youdon'tknowme.Growuplittleman.Youryahooprofilesaysyouarea21year-oldfemale.Andyou'dhavetobeeithergayorlesbiantobeamemberofwhatyourefertoas"theothersite."AmIwrong?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: butch saunders

2005-09-02 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Answer:
Butch is going to Jail for conspiracy. What did he conspire? Were you at court to hear te testimony? Then you're speculating. Martha Stewart went to jail for lying! Not under oath, just lying! Butch wasn't found with 50 grand in his pocket nor someone holding 20 more for him! His ehind is STILL walking around. Why? His case had nothing to do with Butch Saunders, nothing! Condos is doing his time and Ray is in Colorado doing time. There are those in City Hall that OUGHT to be doing time but aren't!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"Jim"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WhileIhavezeroinsideinfo,I'dbetmybottomdollarhe'scooperating.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Butchwasre-sentencedtodaytoserve30monthsinFederalprison.Hemustsurrenderwithin90days.WhydoNJpoliticalcrooksgetsuchsmallsentencesforthecrimestheycommitagainstuspoortaxpayers?Whyisitthatjerry"theweasel"weldonisstillwalkingaroundafreeman?Thefedssayheisnotco-operating.Anyoneknowthestory?~~THATSAGOODQUESTION.JamesP.GrabeVeteransAllianceAsburyParkN.J.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS

2005-09-02 Thread sandy
-Can't a girl just have a little fun now  then? ;~)

-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Not touching this one but you assume a lot! You know what assume 
does, huh? Assume makes an ass out of u and me!
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:25 AM + 9/3/05, sandy wrote:
 Hey Joe, You don't know if im straight or gay, white or black or
 whatever or if im male or female.
 Now that I offended you again, I guess you'll go back to the other
 site and complain about me again. You don't know me. Grow up 
little
 man.
 
 Your yahoo profile says you are a 21 year-old female. And you'd 
have to be either gay or lesbian to be a member of what you refer to 
as the other site.  Am I wrong?
 
 
 
 
 
  
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