RE: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources? (CODE)
On another machine we tried the same tests and found the code took
1680ms to run 1000 iterations. Interestingly enough we rewrote Sean's
code in Java and retried the tests. From Java we could do 1000
iterations in 1265ms. The Java code is below.
import java.util.*;
import java.io.*;
import org.xml.sax.*;
import com.allaire.wddx.*;
public class STest
{
String xmlContent = null;
WddxDeserializer deserializer = null;
public STest(String filePath) throws Exception
{
deserializer = new
WddxDeserializer(org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser);
readInXML(filePath);
}
public static void main(String args[])
{
try
{
if (args.length 2)
{
System.out.println(Usage: alchemy.STest filepath
deserializations [iterations]);
return;
}
int iterations = 1;
if (args.length == 3)
iterations = Integer.parseInt(args[2]);
STest test = new STest(args[0]);
for (int i=0; iiterations; i++)
{
test.run(Integer.parseInt(args[1]));
}
}
catch (Exception ex)
{
ex.printStackTrace();
}
}
private void readInXML(String filePath) throws Exception
{
FileReader reader = null;
try
{
reader = new FileReader(filePath);
xmlContent = ;
char[] buf = new char[512];
int read = -1;
while ((read = reader.read(buf)) != -1)
{
xmlContent += new String(buf, 0, read);
}
xmlContent = xmlContent.trim();
}
finally
{
if (reader != null)
reader.close();
}
}
public void run(int nTimes) throws Exception
{
Map map = null;
InputSource source = null;
long start = System.currentTimeMillis();
for (int i=0; inTimes; i++)
{
source = new InputSource(new StringReader(xmlContent));
map = (Map)deserializer.deserialize(source);
}
long end = System.currentTimeMillis();
System.out.println(It took: + (end - start) + ms to deserialize
+ nTimes + times.);
}
}
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-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources? (CODE)
P3 866 384 RAM CFMX (2543ms)
Using the below code on the same machine (5908ms)
cfparam name=URL.loop type=numeric default=1/
cfset request.File = c:\cfusionmx\wwwroot\test\joe.wddx/
cffile action=READ file=#request.file# variable=temp/
cfset loop = URL.loop/ cfset request.StartTime = GetTickCount()/
cfloop index=i from=1 to=#loop#
cfscript
tempDoc = XmlParse(temp);
ctemp = StructNew();
for(itr = 1; itr lte
ArrayLen(tempDoc.wddxpacket.data.struct.XmlChildren); itr = itr + 1)
StructInsert(ctemp,
tempDoc.wddxpacket.data.struct.var[itr].XmlAttributes.name,
tempDoc.wddxpacket.data.struct.var[itr].XmlChildren[1].XmlText);
/cfscript
/cfloop
cfoutput
#GetTickCount() - request.StartTime# ms
cfdump label=deserialized packet var=#ctemp#/
/cfoutput
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President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
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F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources? (CODE)
On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 10:27 , Joe Eugene wrote:
Below are the details of the code that is running slow on CFMX.
I've put together a very simple test to time wddx2cfml on various
systems.
I don't have CF5 to run it on but hopefully some folks here will
be
able
to confirm / deny the speed differences.
Two files:
- xfile.cfm reads the WDDX packet and then times cfwddx repeatedly
deserializing it
- joe.wddx is Joe's WDDX (with a correction: there's a missing
/string
on line 34!)
I tested this on a PowerMac G4 800MHz with
http://127.0.0.1/xfile.cfm?loop=
1000 and it consistently executed in 4000ms.
xfile.cfm:
!--- xfile.cfm ---
cfparam name=URL.loop type=numeric default=1/
cfset request.File = /home/coldfusionmx/wwwroot/bacfug/joe.wddx/
cffile action=READ file=#request.file# variable=temp/
cfset loop = URL.loop/
cfset request.StartTime = GetTickCount()/
cfloop index=i from=1 to=#loop#
cfwddx action=wddx2cfml input=#temp# output=ctemp
/cfloop
cfoutput
#GetTickCount() - request.StartTime# ms
cfdump label=deserialized packet var=#ctemp#/
/cfoutput
!--- end ---
joe.wddx:
wddxPacket version='1.0'header/headerdatastructvar
name='ALTTAG'stringMS Commercial/string/varvar
name='BODY'stringlt;Pgt;All MSamp;reg; models are made in the
USA to
the highest quality standards.lt;/Pgt;char
code='0A'/lt;Pgt;The
MSamp;reg; Series grew out of our
RE: CF_help cflocation with submit name value
I guess you could let the onClick attribute set a hidden form variable for the different buttons. - Hugo Ahlenius E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project Officer Phone: +46 8 7410451 UNEP GRID-Arendal Fax: +46 733 403285 Stockholm OfficeMobile:+46 733 467111 WWW: http://www.grida.no - | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 21:00 | To: CF-Talk | Subject: CF_help cflocation with submit name value | | | Hi all, | | I have a form with more than one submit button. | Each submit button performs different logic. | The logic is performed based on the submit name. | | input type=submit name=submit1 value=Forecast in | Dollars | input type=submit name=submit2 value=Forecast in | Quantity | | I need to incorporate another application that will | redirect to this logic. I'm currently using CFLOCATION | to do the redirect. How can I successfully pass the | submit name value with the cflocation tag? Should I do | this some other way? | | current working LOGIC | cfif ISDEFINED (submit3) ... | | I'm using cflocation to redirect the user back to a | reference list | | Current working cflocation | cflocation url=request_WIN_edit_list.cfm? | ID=#URL.ID#heng=#URL.HENG# | | D- | __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Can anybody see a problem with this?
Hey All - The marketing department of my company wanted to have a list of directories with names of marketing contacts. (http://www.mycompany.com/BillHenderson/, etc) I first set up a tool using cfdirectory and cffile to create the directories and put the files in them. I found that making changes to the files in the directories or adding new directories or deleting the directories caused quite a lot of problems, not to mention the clutter it caused in the root directory of the site, so I came up with this idea, that does not actually use any custom directories at all, and I want to know if anybody can see possible security problems, server resource issues, etc. 1. The user enters the URL in browser with custom directory at the end 2. IIS catches the 404 error and uses a custom cfm template 3. The cfm template pulls the directory out of the url and checks it against a list of names from a cached query 4. If it find a match, it cf_locations to a template with custom content for the marketing contact 5. If no match is found, it cf_locations to the standard 404b.htm from IIS. Any insight would be appreciated. Bill Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OS X Web Services Running! was Re: X-server?
My CFMX on Mac OS X just consumed a web service -- it was quite tasty Thanks Sean You do *not* want to copy webservices.jar from the CF runtime/lib to /Library/Java/Extensions/ -- it screws up getting the definition of a local cfc as a web service, i.e. the following won't work http://127.0.0.1:8500/cfdocs/exampleapps/cfc/tempconverter.cfc?wsdl So, now consuming a web service works, but publishing does not -- The .java files are created in stubs, but they are not compiled into class files Any ideas? the beat goes on! Dick On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 10:06 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote: On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 04:23 , Dick Applebaum wrote: I also put a copy of java2wsdl.jar and wsdl2java.jar in the same folder. Don't need 'em. You need tt-bytecode.jar which is part of the axis-1_0 distribution. Download the Beta 3 .tar.gz from http://xml.apache.org/axis/index.html - inside axis-1_0/lib you'll find tt-bytecode.jar - cp it to /Library/Java/Extensions/ You also need xmlParserAPIs.jar which is part of the Xerces Java 2 distribution which you can download from http://gump.covalent.net/jars/latest/xml-xerces2/ - cp that to /Library/Java/Extensions/ I also cp webservices.jar from the CF runtime/lib to there but I haven't verified whether it's actually necessary. Access a web service (e.g., the Amazon one) and lo and behold!! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Session not being killed on close of browser
Just to make things more interesting, the same code works in another site we have built. The only difference is that the first page on the problem site, index.cfm, cflocates you to another page. Could this redirect be the problem? We've had it as a javascript redirect to see if that helped, but still no joy. I know client vars aren't effected by redirects, but the swap to a cookie could be causing a problem. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Ade -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 July 2002 18:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Matthew, Smiles. (By the way, I didn't take offense at your message at all--on the contrary, I am glad for the correction.) It's funny, though, it makes me think that I'd almost like there to be ratings on the list: each person has to go through some rigorous testing regime where they get a rating of zero, one, or two. This rating would correspond to the number of grains of salt with which replies from the person in question should be taken. That way, pseudo-newbies like me (who would have a two-grain rating) could post answers without worrying that we're causing more problems than we're solving! :) Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Dude, no need to apologize, I was just trying to help same as you were. No worries. The best part of this list is that we have many great minds to pick when solving a problem. At least you replied and tried to help, ya know? : ) Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Oops! I'm sorry. I should have read the documentation before sending that answer. Omitting the EXPIRES attribute makes it so that the cookie stays open only as long as the browser is open. That's exactly what Adrian was shooting for. Okay. Now that I understand that, I can only suggest that you look at the security settings in the Internet Options. I know that the options there have different entries for cookies and per-session cookies, so that you can enable/disable them independently. Perhaps your version of the browser handles this differently? It seems crazy, but maybe it's forcing the per-session cookies to be written to the machine somehow? Again, sorry about the shooting-from-the-hip silly answer. Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser I thought that by omitting it, the default value sent WAS now? Matt -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Adrian, Is that CFIF block supposed to kill the cookies, thus detaching the session? If so, the only thing I can think of is to specify, in the CFCOOKIE statements, the parameter expires=NOW. Perhaps omitting it sends a value which some browsers interpret differently than others? Matthieu -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Session not being killed on close of browser Sorry for bring up this old chestnut, I've searched the web, the archives, under the sofa and still can't find an answer. I'm using this code in Application.cfm.. CFAPPLICATION NAME=myApp CLIENTMANAGEMENT=Yes SESSIONMANAGEMENT=Yes APPLICATIONTIMEOUT=#CreateTimeSpan(1,0,0,0)# CLIENTSTORAGE=myApp_clientData SETCLIENTCOOKIES=Yes cfif IsDefined(Cookie.CFID) AND IsDefined(Cookie.CFTOKEN) cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN cfcookie name=CFID value=#cfid_local# cfcookie name=CFTOKEN value=#cftoken_local# /cfif which I understand, and which works for some people in my office. But not for me. I have IE6 where as they run IE5.* I've closed ALL my browsers, leaving it a long time before opening afresh, and even loggin in this morning I had the same session running. We're running MX on NT if that makes a difference. Could it be the browser is the problem? Is there anything wrong with the code? Has anyone coming across this before? Are there any pitfalls to be aware of in the rest of the code in the site? Any thought would be nice? Adrian Lynch Thoughtbubble Ltd -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.net Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- The
RE: Session not being killed on close of browser
are you on mx? -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Just to make things more interesting, the same code works in another site we have built. The only difference is that the first page on the problem site, index.cfm, cflocates you to another page. Could this redirect be the problem? We've had it as a javascript redirect to see if that helped, but still no joy. I know client vars aren't effected by redirects, but the swap to a cookie could be causing a problem. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Ade -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 July 2002 18:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Matthew, Smiles. (By the way, I didn't take offense at your message at all--on the contrary, I am glad for the correction.) It's funny, though, it makes me think that I'd almost like there to be ratings on the list: each person has to go through some rigorous testing regime where they get a rating of zero, one, or two. This rating would correspond to the number of grains of salt with which replies from the person in question should be taken. That way, pseudo-newbies like me (who would have a two-grain rating) could post answers without worrying that we're causing more problems than we're solving! :) Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Dude, no need to apologize, I was just trying to help same as you were. No worries. The best part of this list is that we have many great minds to pick when solving a problem. At least you replied and tried to help, ya know? : ) Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Oops! I'm sorry. I should have read the documentation before sending that answer. Omitting the EXPIRES attribute makes it so that the cookie stays open only as long as the browser is open. That's exactly what Adrian was shooting for. Okay. Now that I understand that, I can only suggest that you look at the security settings in the Internet Options. I know that the options there have different entries for cookies and per-session cookies, so that you can enable/disable them independently. Perhaps your version of the browser handles this differently? It seems crazy, but maybe it's forcing the per-session cookies to be written to the machine somehow? Again, sorry about the shooting-from-the-hip silly answer. Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser I thought that by omitting it, the default value sent WAS now? Matt -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Adrian, Is that CFIF block supposed to kill the cookies, thus detaching the session? If so, the only thing I can think of is to specify, in the CFCOOKIE statements, the parameter expires=NOW. Perhaps omitting it sends a value which some browsers interpret differently than others? Matthieu -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Session not being killed on close of browser Sorry for bring up this old chestnut, I've searched the web, the archives, under the sofa and still can't find an answer. I'm using this code in Application.cfm.. CFAPPLICATION NAME=myApp CLIENTMANAGEMENT=Yes SESSIONMANAGEMENT=Yes APPLICATIONTIMEOUT=#CreateTimeSpan(1,0,0,0)# CLIENTSTORAGE=myApp_clientData SETCLIENTCOOKIES=Yes cfif IsDefined(Cookie.CFID) AND IsDefined(Cookie.CFTOKEN) cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN cfcookie name=CFID value=#cfid_local# cfcookie name=CFTOKEN value=#cftoken_local# /cfif which I understand, and which works for some people in my office. But not for me. I have IE6 where as they run IE5.* I've closed ALL my browsers, leaving it a long time before opening afresh, and even loggin in this morning I had the same session running. We're running MX on NT if that makes a difference. Could it be the browser is the problem? Is there anything wrong with the code? Has anyone coming across this before? Are there any pitfalls to be aware of in the rest of
RE: Session not being killed on close of browser
Yup, and I've just read Brain J LeRoux's post which may have some standing. Maybe it's the mix of MX and IE6? Ade -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 11:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser are you on mx? -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Just to make things more interesting, the same code works in another site we have built. The only difference is that the first page on the problem site, index.cfm, cflocates you to another page. Could this redirect be the problem? We've had it as a javascript redirect to see if that helped, but still no joy. I know client vars aren't effected by redirects, but the swap to a cookie could be causing a problem. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Ade -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 July 2002 18:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Matthew, Smiles. (By the way, I didn't take offense at your message at all--on the contrary, I am glad for the correction.) It's funny, though, it makes me think that I'd almost like there to be ratings on the list: each person has to go through some rigorous testing regime where they get a rating of zero, one, or two. This rating would correspond to the number of grains of salt with which replies from the person in question should be taken. That way, pseudo-newbies like me (who would have a two-grain rating) could post answers without worrying that we're causing more problems than we're solving! :) Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Dude, no need to apologize, I was just trying to help same as you were. No worries. The best part of this list is that we have many great minds to pick when solving a problem. At least you replied and tried to help, ya know? : ) Matthew P. Smith Web Developer, Object Oriented Naval Education Training Professional Development Technology Center (NETPDTC) (850)452-1001 ext. 1245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Oops! I'm sorry. I should have read the documentation before sending that answer. Omitting the EXPIRES attribute makes it so that the cookie stays open only as long as the browser is open. That's exactly what Adrian was shooting for. Okay. Now that I understand that, I can only suggest that you look at the security settings in the Internet Options. I know that the options there have different entries for cookies and per-session cookies, so that you can enable/disable them independently. Perhaps your version of the browser handles this differently? It seems crazy, but maybe it's forcing the per-session cookies to be written to the machine somehow? Again, sorry about the shooting-from-the-hip silly answer. Matthieu -Original Message- From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser I thought that by omitting it, the default value sent WAS now? Matt -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session not being killed on close of browser Adrian, Is that CFIF block supposed to kill the cookies, thus detaching the session? If so, the only thing I can think of is to specify, in the CFCOOKIE statements, the parameter expires=NOW. Perhaps omitting it sends a value which some browsers interpret differently than others? Matthieu -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Session not being killed on close of browser Sorry for bring up this old chestnut, I've searched the web, the archives, under the sofa and still can't find an answer. I'm using this code in Application.cfm.. CFAPPLICATION NAME=myApp CLIENTMANAGEMENT=Yes SESSIONMANAGEMENT=Yes APPLICATIONTIMEOUT=#CreateTimeSpan(1,0,0,0)# CLIENTSTORAGE=myApp_clientData SETCLIENTCOOKIES=Yes cfif IsDefined(Cookie.CFID) AND IsDefined(Cookie.CFTOKEN) cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN cfcookie name=CFID value=#cfid_local# cfcookie name=CFTOKEN value=#cftoken_local# /cfif which I understand, and which works for some people in my office. But not for me. I have IE6 where as they run IE5.* I've closed ALL my browsers, leaving it a long time before opening
Re: X-server?
I can't confirm nor refute Jesse's numbers or logic. However, I think there additional considerations. I would think that one of MM's goals is to have CF be the most widely-accepted Web Application Server regardless of hardware -- comparative versions of CF Cost about the same regardless of platform. I am not claiming that OS X has enough potential to be a major player in the Web Application Server market -- what I am saying is that it should be a player, a profitable player! Consider this: There are lots of web developers out there (myself included) that use Macs. Many develop applications that are hosted by outside services. Those who develop in CF develop apps that will be run on CF servers on some platform. Point 1 -- These Mac developers contribute to CF sales Many Mac developers do *not* write Web programs for CF because they cannot run CF on a local machine -- they are more productive in Java, PHP, Perl, whatever. Point 2 -- These Mac developers are contributing to the sales of MM's competitors The port of the Developer system to Mac OS X alleviates this problem to some extent -- Likely, independent contractors like myself will jump at the chance to run CF locally. This should increase their productivity and they should be able to deploy more apps to supported CF platforms. Point 3 - Availability of an unsupported developer system on OSX will likely make a contribution to CF sales and detract from competitive sales The fact that the port is unsupported means that it takes a lot of cajoling, wheedling (not bribes), and time (especially time) to get problems fixed, or even addressed. Likely, there will not be mass acceptance of CF as a development platform, by Mac users, until there is a supported developer platform -- CF running locally, not just DWMX* * It's ironic that DWMX on the Mac contributes to the sales of CF competitors -- Mac users can develop in competitive languages that *do* run on the Mac, while CF does not. Point 4 - Lack of a supported CF Mac developer platform will likely detract from CF sales and contribute to competitor sales. Those who have used CFMX on Mac OS X (I know most of them) think that is a sweet system -- superior to the other available options. I can't make this statement, because I have never developed on a Win, Solaris or Linux box. I can give this opinion: CFMX ON Mac OSX is the *Best* Web Application development system, running on the *Best* Operating system running on the *Best* Personal Computer. Many will agree with me. Some simple test results, a few discussed in recent threads, show that that Mac platform performs quite well, and is price-competitive, if not superior. Point 5 -- Likely MM is missing an opportunity to proselytize Mac developers to CF, to their detriment and to the advantage of their competitors. If MM were to offer a supported Developer version of CF on Mac OS X, it would likely be the easiest, and fastest to install. Mac OS X already includes (has installed), Java and Apache Web Server. These are not necessarily installed on the CF supported platforms. A good part of every CF install (and many of the problems during beta) involve installation of Java, a Web Server, and integrating these things with the CFMX/JRun systems. Mac OS X has a proven, well-defined, automatic process that maintains and applies software updates -- this include everything from updates to the underlying OS to 3rd-party application programs such as Microsoft IE. I suspect a CFMX product on Mac OS X would cost MM less to support and maintain, than on other platforms -- there is just a lot less code and a lot less integration -- a complete, stable, predictable platform. Point 6 -- Costs of supporting CF on the Mac OS X platform would likely be less than other platforms. This means different numbers would be plugged into the ROI calculation. If MM offers a Developer version of CFMX on Mac OS X, they will likely find an eager audience of potential *new users* of CF. Apple will likely promote the availability of CFMX Developer on Mac OS X. MM could defray much of the marketing costs -- others will gladly do it for you. This might be a simple, inexpensive way of sticking your toes in the water to measure acceptance and potential without incurring a lot of costs. Point 7 -- Costs of marketing CF on the Mac OS X platform would likely be less than other platforms. This means different numbers would be plugged into the ROI calculation. Given, a supported CFMX Developer version
RE: CF 5 App crashing every 5 minutes...
We're seeing some similar behavior here at *mumble*. I suspect improper locking of Session variable is at least partly to blame. Lots of stuff like this: cflock scope=session type=readonly timeout=5 cfset request.strLogin = StructCopy(Session.strLogin) /cflock Or even worse: cflock scope=session type=readonly timeout=5 cfset request.strLogin = Session.strLogin /cflock Where strLogin is a structure of structures (of structures). Inexperienced CF Developers and unreasonable deadlines in the early stages of the project have made a bit of a mess. --- Nathaniel Horwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be more inclined to agree with him. At my previous company, we had some problems with increasing memory usage after restarting. It turned out to be our code- the way we were locking (In our case, not locking at all) the session variables. We'd restart the server at least once a day and when we sorted out the locking problems, it was much less than that. Nathaniel -Original Message- From: Chris Norloff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF 5 App crashing every 5 minutes... That sounds more like freezing than crashing. I'd check all shared-scope variables for locking (ANY use of a shared-scope variable MUST be locked). I also recommend a MM TechNote called Timeouts and Unresponsive Requests. Chris Norloff - Original Message - From: Joel Blanchette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: CF 5 App crashing every 5 minutes... Hello All, I need big help.Last night, I saw that our server was going down, then I noticed that it was not the server but more that the cfserver.exe in the task manager was just stopping. If I restart the serveice it is all good. But I need to do this every 5 minutes...Which is not good...So I wrote a batch file that does it for me. I need to know why this error is happening. It seems like when the cfserver.exe gets around 25 megs or memory use it just stops responding. The task is still there but it will not respond. I'm using CF Server 5 on a Windows server 2000 SP2. Is there something in the threads that I should change? I can post the lines of the error logs of CF here but I need to know which ones u would need. I will need help. I did nothing to the server that would just start doing this. We are getting more traffic then before. Would that be the cause? If yes, there must be a way to fix this. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 5 App crashing every 5 minutes...
We're seeing some similar behavior here at *mumble*. I suspect improper locking of Session variable is at least partly to blame. Aye, a lot of that here as well...*blush* When we started, we used a set of shopping cart scripts from CartEase to give us a jumpstart. Unfortunately, that code also taught us some bad CF programming habits, such as not locking scope variables at all! I just recently understood how important this is. *sigh* Of course, the CartEase stuff was buggy anyway and had to be completely re-written to work with Linux and Oracle, it was written for windoze servers with Access or SQL Server and mistakenly advertised as working on linux and with any SQL database. lol. Inexperienced CF Developers and unreasonable deadlines in the early stages of the project have made a bit of a mess. That would describe my situation exactly except a bit of a mess is an understatement. At least I know now and added locks to all session vars. A lot of other fixes on my list as well, the more I dig into CF best practices coding. I shoulda done this a long time ago but as you remarkedunreasonable deadlines and so on. :) At least I am using the log files now. hehe...amazing how useful they are, eh? -Steve __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can anybody see a problem with this?
Hi Bill Off the top of my head I can't think of a reason why that wouldn't work, but to my mind, relying on the server's error catching to perform designed functionality just feels wrong - it feels like bad design, and it's shifting some of your logic from the application itself to the server software that it's running under. Just my opinion, of course, but if it was me, I'd either - - make the default CFM template strip the name of the directory out of the url and check it against the query. - use a url such as http://www.mycompany.com/contacts/BillHenderson , and put an extension-less file called contacts in the root. Make IIS pass files with no extension through CF and put your logic to get the name, check the query and re-locate, into that contacts file. I've used this myself many times on many different webservers, with no problems. Hope that helps! Alistair Alistair Davidson Application Developer www.smartgroups.com Freeserve.com PLC -Original Message- From: Bill Henderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 09:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Can anybody see a problem with this? Hey All - The marketing department of my company wanted to have a list of directories with names of marketing contacts. (http://www.mycompany.com/BillHenderson/, etc) I first set up a tool using cfdirectory and cffile to create the directories and put the files in them. I found that making changes to the files in the directories or adding new directories or deleting the directories caused quite a lot of problems, not to mention the clutter it caused in the root directory of the site, so I came up with this idea, that does not actually use any custom directories at all, and I want to know if anybody can see possible security problems, server resource issues, etc. 1. The user enters the URL in browser with custom directory at the end 2. IIS catches the 404 error and uses a custom cfm template 3. The cfm template pulls the directory out of the url and checks it against a list of names from a cached query 4. If it find a match, it cf_locations to a template with custom content for the marketing contact 5. If no match is found, it cf_locations to the standard 404b.htm from IIS. Any insight would be appreciated. Bill Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and SQL
Any clue on how I can display a social security... Im having problems if the first digit is a zero How do I format the number so it displays all of the digits??? First of all, you should use a string datatype in your database (VARCHAR, for instance). Second, assuming you're storing the SSN in the format '012345678' this will format it in the way most people are used to: #Left(SSN,3)#-#Mid(SSN,4,2)#-#Right(SSN,4)# __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio autocomplete
Try this: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusionstudio/productinfo/resources/tag_updaters/ --- Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know which file dictates which tags have closing tags, and which tags display in the autocomplete dropdown as you are typing in Studio 5? I want the MX tags to autocomplete as well... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Hi folks, Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. Thanks!! Alex __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
I saw it in Borders the other day -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion Hi folks, Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. Thanks!! Alex __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX - Linux - DB2 AS/400
Paul, I've got MX (Windows) talking to DB2/400 using IBM's open source JTOpen JDBC driver. You should be able to get it running on Linux withouth any problems - and it's free. http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jt400/ -Rob Has anyone had any luck connecting MX/Linux to a AS/400 running DB2 without DB2Connect? If so, please elighten :) Thanks Paul Giesenhagen FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: X-server?
Point 4 - Lack of a supported CF Mac developer platform will likely detract from CF sales and contribute to competitor sales. Those who have used CFMX on Mac OS X (I know most of them) think that is a sweet system -- superior to the other available options. I can't make this statement, because I have never developed on a Win, Solaris or Linux box. I can give this opinion: CFMX ON Mac OSX is the *Best* Web Application development system, running on the *Best* Operating system running on the *Best* Personal Computer. Just my $.02 worth: The X-server includes Apple's amazingly good WebObjects 5.0 (Java-based) application server which alone is worth the price of the box. Relatively few developers used it, but it's an amazingly fast and flexible system -- they used to sell it for $50k to the likes of Ford; now it's basically free. Who's really competing for sales for an app server on OS/X? J2EE vendors? PHP (wait, that's open source)? Perl (ditto)? Apache Tomcat (ditto)? WebObjects, Tomcat, and the Ps (PHP, Perl, Python) are plenty of *installed* competition without having to buy additional software. Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Let's not even talk about the fact that Java development on the Mac stopped at 1.1.7 + the Collections API and Swing (~ 1.1.8). Just the fact that it runs Java well makes OSX attractive! Our Java developers are literally dumping their wintel boxes for G4 TiBooks. Of course we then deploy to IBM xSeries servers on the current project. WebSphere in fact. Makes local development tough though since there's no WS for OSX. Maybe we can convince IBM to support X-Server and then run the CFMX for WebSphere app on top of it. ;) Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/TransitionPoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=1935 |-Original Message- |From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion | | |Hi folks, | |Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of |Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, |Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at |Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal |problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but |I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. | |Thanks!! |Alex | |__ | |Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Thanks Kris, but Borders is Amazon. Sorry for bothering but I'm really interested in this book as a source for our programmers here. An e-book version will be perfect since I can't find it as paper here in Brazil and shipping costs a lot. Thanks. Alex -Original Message- From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01/08/2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion I saw it in Borders the other day -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion Hi folks, Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. Thanks!! Alex __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Thanks a lot Brockman! []'s Alex -Original Message- From: Brockman, Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01/08/2002 10:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=1935 |-Original Message- |From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM |To: CF-Talk |Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion | | |Hi folks, | |Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of |Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, |Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at |Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal |problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but |I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. | |Thanks!! |Alex | |__ | |Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Good CFCatch code
cfdump isn't available on CF 4.5.x. Then create one. Here's the code from my CF_DUMP tag: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=yes !--- Usage:cf_dump var = ... Attributes: var (var, required) - variable to be dumped --- !--- attributes validation --- cfparam name=attributes.var cfset var = attributes.var cf_IsWddx input=#var# r_output=decodedVar r_bIsWDDX=bIsWddx cfif bIsWddx cfoutput table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ff bordercolor=Black trtd valign=top /cfoutput cf_dump var=#decodedVar# cfoutput /td/tr/table /cfoutput cfelseif IsStruct(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Blue /cfoutput !--- dump keys one by one --- cfloop collection=#var# item=keyName cfoutput tr td valign=top#keyName#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[keyName] ) cfif Left( var[keyName], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[keyName]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsArray(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##cceecc bordercolor=Green /cfoutput cfset size = ArrayLen(var) !--- dump items one by one --- cfloop index=i from=1 to=#size# cfoutput tr td valign=top#i#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[i] ) cfif Left( var[i], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[i]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsQuery(var) cfset colList = var.columnList cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Red tr bgcolor=##ee cfloop list=#colList# index=colName td valign=top#colName#/td /cfloop /tr /cfoutput !--- scroll thru rows --- cfloop query=var cfoutputtr/cfoutput !--- create deep copy of each field --- cfloop list=#colList# index=col cfoutputtd valign=top bgcolor=##ff/cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[col][currentRow] ) cfif Left( var[col][currentRow], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[col][currentRow]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfoutput/td/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput/tr/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelse cfoutput#var#/cfoutput /cfif cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=no __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Strange coincidence I just saw this yesterday: http://techupdate.books24x7.com/toc.asp?bookid=3264 -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion Thanks Kris, but Borders is Amazon. Sorry for bothering but I'm really interested in this book as a source for our programmers here. An e-book version will be perfect since I can't find it as paper here in Brazil and shipping costs a lot. Thanks. Alex -Original Message- From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01/08/2002 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion I saw it in Borders the other day -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion Hi folks, Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. Thanks!! Alex __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Favourite Web Services so far?
(zipcode web service) Wish there was a similar one for the UK Postal Code system. And Canada ;-) It's really easy to build your own -- all you need is a database of postal codes and lat/long data. The US Census office releases it for us. There are a number of people that sell this type of data as well. The SQL version (for a stored proc) is discussed here: http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid13_gci523000,00.html which demonstrates yet again why SQL has trig functions in it :) Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/TransitionPoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Good CFCatch code
And you can always use cfa_dump from Spectra if you have it. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Al Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good CFCatch code cfdump isn't available on CF 4.5.x. Then create one. Here's the code from my CF_DUMP tag: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=yes !--- Usage:cf_dump var = ... Attributes: var (var, required) - variable to be dumped --- !--- attributes validation --- cfparam name=attributes.var cfset var = attributes.var cf_IsWddx input=#var# r_output=decodedVar r_bIsWDDX=bIsWddx cfif bIsWddx cfoutput table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ff bordercolor=Black trtd valign=top /cfoutput cf_dump var=#decodedVar# cfoutput /td/tr/table /cfoutput cfelseif IsStruct(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Blue /cfoutput !--- dump keys one by one --- cfloop collection=#var# item=keyName cfoutput tr td valign=top#keyName#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[keyName] ) cfif Left( var[keyName], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[keyName]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsArray(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##cceecc bordercolor=Green /cfoutput cfset size = ArrayLen(var) !--- dump items one by one --- cfloop index=i from=1 to=#size# cfoutput tr td valign=top#i#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[i] ) cfif Left( var[i], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[i]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsQuery(var) cfset colList = var.columnList cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Red tr bgcolor=##ee cfloop list=#colList# index=colName td valign=top#colName#/td /cfloop /tr /cfoutput !--- scroll thru rows --- cfloop query=var cfoutputtr/cfoutput !--- create deep copy of each field --- cfloop list=#colList# index=col cfoutputtd valign=top bgcolor=##ff/cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[col][currentRow] ) cfif Left( var[col][currentRow], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[col][currentRow]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfoutput/td/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput/tr/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelse cfoutput#var#/cfoutput /cfif cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=no __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: SQL question
Off the top of my head, in SQL Server you can do it like this : SELECT PartNumber, 'FirstBitOfPartNumber' = LEFT( PartNumber, FIND( '.', PartNumber ) ) FROM blahblahblah If you wanted to just get matching rows, you can use that as a join condition, e.g. SELECT PartNumber FROM Table1 INNER JOIN Table2 ON Table2.PartNumber = LEFT( Table1.PartNumber, FIND( '.', Table1.PartNumber ) ) WHERE blah blah blah Hope that helps Alistair Alistair Davidson Application Developer www.smartgroups.com Freeserve.com PLC -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 July 2002 21:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: SQL question Great. You did not provide your database or setup. I can only assume you are working on a mainframe hitting DB2. On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Phillip B wrote: I need to do this and don't know where to start. Compare part of a part number in one table to another table. The part numbers look like this. 12345.123 12345.234 12345.654 02nt911dc.123 02nt911dc.054 02thq5 02thq7 The part before the dot is all I want to use to compare to the other table which will only contain the first part. It would be something like this. 12345.123 = 12345 12345.234 = 12345 12345.654 = 12345 02nt911dc.123 = 02nt911dc 02nt911dc.054 = 02nt911dc 02thq5 = 02thq5 02thq7 = 02thq7 How would I do that using just sql statements? Maybe when I have the server import I could have it create an extra column that can contain a trimmed version of the part number. A master number of sorts. Just a thought. Thanks Phillip Broussard Tracker Marine Group 417-873-5957 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and SQL
Any clue on how I can display a social security... Im having problems
if the first digit is a zero How do I format the number so it
displays all of the digits???
First of all, you should use a string datatype in your database (VARCHAR,
for instance).
Second, assuming you're storing the SSN in the format '012345678' this
will format it in the way most people are used to:
#Left(SSN,3)#-#Mid(SSN,4,2)#-#Right(SSN,4)#
Or if you were feeling really adventurous,
#REReplace(SSN,(.{3,3})(.{2,2})(.{4,4}),\1-\2-\3)#
or something to that effect. :)
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RE: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Borders is now using Amazon.com for their online fulfillment. Here's the paperback at Barnes Noble: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=1928994776 Or try Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=Hack+Proofing+ColdFusion+e-bookbtnG=Google+Search) Here's one I found: http://www.syngress.com/catalog/sg_main.cfm?pid=1935 (I left out the several warez sites and the ones that are Amazon.com affiliates) --- Kris Pilles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw it in Borders the other day -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion Hi folks, Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found paper edition, not the eletronic one. Thanks!! Alex __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Good CFCatch code
and if you have a valid license for it :-p -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 14:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good CFCatch code And you can always use cfa_dump from Spectra if you have it. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Al Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Good CFCatch code cfdump isn't available on CF 4.5.x. Then create one. Here's the code from my CF_DUMP tag: cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=yes !--- Usage:cf_dump var = ... Attributes: var (var, required) - variable to be dumped --- !--- attributes validation --- cfparam name=attributes.var cfset var = attributes.var cf_IsWddx input=#var# r_output=decodedVar r_bIsWDDX=bIsWddx cfif bIsWddx cfoutput table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ff bordercolor=Black trtd valign=top /cfoutput cf_dump var=#decodedVar# cfoutput /td/tr/table /cfoutput cfelseif IsStruct(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Blue /cfoutput !--- dump keys one by one --- cfloop collection=#var# item=keyName cfoutput tr td valign=top#keyName#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[keyName] ) cfif Left( var[keyName], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[keyName]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[keyName]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsArray(var) cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##cceecc bordercolor=Green /cfoutput cfset size = ArrayLen(var) !--- dump items one by one --- cfloop index=i from=1 to=#size# cfoutput tr td valign=top#i#/td td valign=top bgcolor=##ff /cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[i] ) cfif Left( var[i], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[i]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[i]# /cfif cfoutput /td /tr /cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelseif IsQuery(var) cfset colList = var.columnList cfoutput table border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=1 bgcolor=##ee bordercolor=Red tr bgcolor=##ee cfloop list=#colList# index=colName td valign=top#colName#/td /cfloop /tr /cfoutput !--- scroll thru rows --- cfloop query=var cfoutputtr/cfoutput !--- create deep copy of each field --- cfloop list=#colList# index=col cfoutputtd valign=top bgcolor=##ff/cfoutput cfif IsSimpleValue( var[col][currentRow] ) cfif Left( var[col][currentRow], 11 ) neq wddxPacket cfoutput#var[col][currentRow]#/cfoutput cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfelse cf_dump var=#var[col][currentRow]# /cfif cfoutput/td/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput/tr/cfoutput /cfloop cfoutput /table /cfoutput cfelse cfoutput#var#/cfoutput /cfif cfsetting enablecfoutputonly=no __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Onkeypress
function entsub() {
if (window.event window.event.keyCode == 13)
returninfo();
else
return true;
}
I am using this on a form to allow pressing the enter key to call my
function returninfo()
However, if the user hits enter and nothing is selected in my select
box, I get an error... Any ideas on how I can correct this???
-Original Message-
From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Hi folks,
Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing
ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I
can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal
problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found
paper edition, not the eletronic one.
Thanks!!
Alex
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RE: Onkeypress
would changing
window.event window.event.keyCode == 13
to
window.event == 13 window.event.keyCode == 13
help at all?
Ade
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Onkeypress
function entsub() {
if (window.event window.event.keyCode == 13)
returninfo();
else
return true;
}
I am using this on a form to allow pressing the enter key to call my
function returninfo()
However, if the user hits enter and nothing is selected in my select
box, I get an error... Any ideas on how I can correct this???
-Original Message-
From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Hi folks,
Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing
ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I
can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal
problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found
paper edition, not the eletronic one.
Thanks!!
Alex
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Re: Onkeypress
oi Kris!!
what bout using the onKeyUp event?
--
Critz
Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
CFX_BotMaster Network=Efnet Channel=ColdFusion
Thursday, August 1, 2002, 10:28:21 AM, you wrote:
KP function entsub() {
KP if (window.event window.event.keyCode == 13)
KP returninfo();
KP else
KP return true;
KP }
KP I am using this on a form to allow pressing the enter key to call my
KP function returninfo()
KP However, if the user hits enter and nothing is selected in my select
KP box, I get an error... Any ideas on how I can correct this???
KP -Original Message-
KP From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
KP Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
KP To: CF-Talk
KP Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
KP Hi folks,
KP Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing
KP ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I
KP can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal
KP problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found
KP paper edition, not the eletronic one.
KP Thanks!!
KP Alex
KP
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RE: Onkeypress
I think I need to set the focud of the select list to focus on load... I
set the focus but it does not highlight the box? Is there a way to make
it highlight an item on the select box onload???
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Onkeypress
would changing
window.event window.event.keyCode == 13
to
window.event == 13 window.event.keyCode == 13
help at all?
Ade
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Onkeypress
function entsub() {
if (window.event window.event.keyCode == 13)
returninfo();
else
return true;
}
I am using this on a form to allow pressing the enter key to call my
function returninfo()
However, if the user hits enter and nothing is selected in my select
box, I get an error... Any ideas on how I can correct this???
-Original Message-
From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Hi folks,
Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing
ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I
can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal
problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found
paper edition, not the eletronic one.
Thanks!!
Alex
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OT: IIS buffer overflow?
Hi Folks, sorry for the OT but I really cant find a answer for what is happening to my IIS server. Maybe you can help me on that annoying thing. Everyday, at least one time, my IIS crashes and turn back working... The message I found on EventViewer is: Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7031 Date: 28/7/2002 Time: 18:43:59 User: N/A Computer: XINGU Description: The World Wide Web Publishing Service service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 15 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 0 milliseconds: No action. I take the same for the FTP service, IIS Admin Service (at the same time - IIS Admin Service seems to occur first). Well, this error is notorious by it's relation to the buffer overflow atacks in the IIS such as nimda e so on. My server is running URLScan tool (2.5), I have all patches that MS could imagine regarding security in both server and the iis service, I disabled all app mappings (except the .cfm), removed all risk folders, tunned my regisrty entires to a more robust response to DoS attacks, my server runs under a very good hardware-based firewall, my cf apps are safe in terms of coding, etc, etc. Well, security cares are not a problem here since I do follow ALL Microsoft recommendations regarding it. I really don't know what can causes it under such circumstances. I've tried to contact M$ support but seems that IIS support must be payed... (it's not included when you buy your Win2k server). Not sure if this can cause problems to the IIS but I run my administrative pages (IIS remote administrative, CFAdministrator and so on) in a high port (eg. 8711) under SSL encrypt... (also protecting contents for anonymous access). I also run SFTP under port 22 (but I don't think this is related to that since the SSH ftp uses it's own ftp server machine). Any clues?? Thanks a lot! Alex __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Onkeypress
Also, you can easily check to see if anything is selected in that box before
submission. Just loop through all elements of the select list and if none
are selected, produce an error message.
Setting the 1st element as selected will remove the need for that check
though.
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Onkeypress
I think I need to set the focud of the select list to focus on load... I
set the focus but it does not highlight the box? Is there a way to make
it highlight an item on the select box onload???
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Onkeypress
would changing
window.event window.event.keyCode == 13
to
window.event == 13 window.event.keyCode == 13
help at all?
Ade
-Original Message-
From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 01 August 2002 15:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Onkeypress
function entsub() {
if (window.event window.event.keyCode == 13)
returninfo();
else
return true;
}
I am using this on a form to allow pressing the enter key to call my
function returninfo()
However, if the user hits enter and nothing is selected in my select
box, I get an error... Any ideas on how I can correct this???
-Original Message-
From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Hack Proofing ColdFusion
Hi folks,
Does anybody knows where I can find the e-book version of Hack Proofing
ColdFusion (Greg Meyer, Steven Casco, Sarge, Rob Rusher)? I know that I
can find it at Amazon.com but I really avoid shopping there (personal
problems in the past)... I'm looking for other places but I only found
paper edition, not the eletronic one.
Thanks!!
Alex
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RE: cfargument and dot notaion
You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like attributeCollection in custom tags? Use argumentCollection: cfset a = structNew() cfset a.foo = 1 cfset res = myUDF(argumentCollection=a) That should work. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion How do we param out arguments in a UDF then? - Original Message - From: Raymond Camden To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags. Unless... You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/ UDFs as well: cfset x = myUDForCFCMethod(arg=1,arg2=2,arg4=4,arg3=3) == = Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfargument and dot notaion When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the order of the arguments given to the method must match the order of the cfargument tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where you have name value pairs. Example: cfset objEmailMan = createObject(component, emailman) cfset isDupe = objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID) -- emailman.cfc -- cffunction name=isDupe returntype=boolean cfargument name=emailAddress required=Yes type=string cfargument name=emailCategoryID required=Yes type=numeric snip... Is this correct? It seems to be so, but I can't find anything anywhere that comes out and says it is the order that matters. -- Jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: cfargument and dot notaion
No...
I mean that in a UDF such as:
function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {
..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the corresponding variables?
In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call
HopeThisWorks(arg3=CrossFingers) be enough, without paraming the other arguments
within the UDF's body? Or would the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not
paramed somehow within the UDF's body?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like attributeCollection
in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:
cfset a = structNew()
cfset a.foo = 1
cfset res = myUDF(argumentCollection=a)
That should work.
===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus
My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
Unless...
You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/
UDFs as well:
cfset x = myUDForCFCMethod(arg=1,arg2=2,arg4=4,arg3=3)
==
=
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus
My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfargument and dot notaion
When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the
order of the
arguments given to the method must match the order of
the cfargument
tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where
you have name
value pairs.
Example:
cfset objEmailMan = createObject(component, emailman)
cfset isDupe =
objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID)
-- emailman.cfc --
cffunction name=isDupe returntype=boolean
cfargument name=emailAddress required=Yes
type=string
cfargument name=emailCategoryID required=Yes
type=numeric
snip...
Is this correct? It seems to be so, but I can't find anything
anywhere that comes out and says it is the order that matters.
--
Jon
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RE: X-server?
-Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as far as being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this? IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop operating system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-) John Venable __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: cfargument and dot notaion
It's not CFCs per se, but cffunction. So it applies to tag based UDFs as
well - don't forget cffunction can be used outside of CFCs.
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-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
That's what I thought. Oh well then.
Good thing that CFCs don't behave this way.
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
No, because in script based UDFs, if you list them, they
are required.
If you want to use optional args in script based UDFs, you
can't have
them between the parens.
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-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
No...
I mean that in a UDF such as:
function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {
..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the
corresponding variables?
In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call
HopeThisWorks(arg3=CrossFingers) be enough, without
paraming the other arguments within the UDF's body? Or would
the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not paramed
somehow within the UDF's body?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like
attributeCollection
in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:
cfset a = structNew()
cfset a.foo = 1
cfset res = myUDF(argumentCollection=a)
That should work.
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-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
Unless...
You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/
UDFs as well:
cfset x = myUDForCFCMethod(arg=1,arg2=2,arg4=4,arg3=3)
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-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfargument and dot notaion
When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the
order of the
arguments given to the method must match the order of
the cfargument
tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where
you have name
value pairs.
Example:
cfset objEmailMan = createObject(component,
emailman)
cfset isDupe =
objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID)
-- emailman.cfc --
cffunction name=isDupe returntype=boolean
cfargument name=emailAddress required=Yes
type=string
cfargument name=emailCategoryID required=Yes
type=numeric
snip...
Is this correct? It seems to be so, but I can't
find anything
anywhere that comes out and says it is the order
that matters.
--
Jon
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RE: Radio Button Form Question
Several ways to do it. You can setup a submit handler to examine and save all values before actual submission. You can also just verify those values in the program your submit calls. Setup hidden fields in that prog and when you send the user back to correct their mistakes, what they typed in will be there if you setup the values properly. ie: input type=text name=mytext cfif isDefined(form.mytext) value='#form.mytext#' /cfif -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Radio Button Form Question Hello, I believe this will be a light weight question for this list, I am creating a customer feedback survey, in which customers answer question by selectin 1-5 on a list of radio buttons In the situation where a customer leaves a question or mutltiple questions blank how do I return the customer to the form with the radio buttons that he/she did fill out populated? Thanks -Paul __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 05:37 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: snip I'll reply in-line Me too! There are lots of web developers out there (myself included) that use Macs. Yes, client side. Not server side. Yes that is exactly what I an talking about -- there are quite a few good developers using Macs, even though they can't deploy on Macs Many develop applications that are hosted by outside services. Once again, client vs. server. same as above Those who develop in CF develop apps that will be run on CF servers on some platform. That's a given Point 1 -- These Mac developers contribute to CF sales Here you missed the point, or just decided not to respond to it. Many Mac developers do *not* write Web programs for CF because they cannot run CF on a local machine -- they are more productive in Java, PHP, Perl, whatever. I would beg to differ. OS/X is a recent development, ie: last year. This means that it is so new, that for many developers, their feet for server side deployment and application design are not quite balanced on the deck yet. I have been writing Web apps on a Mac since 1997 -- My biggest mentor was doing the same years before me. I wrote mostly Perl, and yes I could test the Perl programs on the Mac -- you could even kludge together a web server that server Perl/html. Perl CGI was probably the dominent Web programming language at that time-- CF was the young, new kid, that wasn't quite mature enough to be widely accepted. Not to mention, in an ideal environment, you DEPLOY your application to a development machine. Not to the local machine. You should not test your applications on a server which DOES NOT mimic your production machine. This means if you develop on a WindowsXP machine, but deploy to a Win2k box, something has gone wrong. It should be develop on WinXP, deploy to TEST server (running win2k), verify everything still works as is, then redploy to live machine. ::shrug:: Just me being retentive again. I'm a Linux junkie. I develop on windows, or OS/2, or BeOS, or OS/X, etc, deploy to a test linux server, verify the code runs, then redeploy to production. Not all developers have (or need) the luxury of having access to an ideal development environment with several machines and the target environment, database, etc all deployed on these separate machines. How many independent contractors have the wherewith all to put together such an environment -- the time and expertise would kill any income-producing ability. Form the CF-Talk list and others, I suspect that the majority of CF developers are small shops or independent contractors. Likely, these are the ones who are fueling the majority of CF installations. I have written CF apps on a Mac and deployed them on win / unix boxes without problem. Point 2 -- These Mac developers are contributing to the sales of MM's competitors Another point! The port of the Developer system to Mac OS X alleviates this problem to some extent -- Likely, independent contractors like myself will jump at the chance to run CF locally. This should increase their productivity and they should be able to deploy more apps to supported CF platforms. So do BSD developers, Mandrake, Slackware, etc. How many actual corporate application servers have been ported to OS/X. Barely ANY, if any at all. You can run PHP and PERL. The same theory applies to the other niche market Unix/BSD world. I am talking about a Developer system here -- it obfuscates the issue to respond with an argument about corporate application servers -- not the same issue. We CANNOT port to every single platform where we have any sort of competitor, we do not have the in house staff capable of doing so. The sheer resources needed would be astronomical. I realize that, but I think a Developer system on Mac OS X would be a minor port and a minor support issue. As I mentioned later, making this Developer system a supported product is a relatively easy and inexpensive way to test the market for the OS X platform. Point 3 - Availability of an unsupported developer system on OSX will likely make a contribution to CF sales and detract from competitive sales Another point. The fact that the port is unsupported means that it takes a lot of cajoling, wheedling (not bribes), and time (especially time) to get problems fixed, or even addressed. Likely, there will not be mass acceptance of CF as a development platform, by Mac users, until there is a supported developer platform -- CF running locally, not just DWMX* This is misnomer. Who says mac users will suddenly See the Light and start developing CFML when we port an application *server* to a primarily CLIENT-SIDE operating system? Again, you are using a server-side argument against a client-side issue. I
[OT] Getting around 255 limit on GET method.
Sorry if this has already been discussed. A friend asked if there was anyway of getting around the 255 limit on a form method 'get' for IIS 5.0? I don't use IIS, so... didn't know there was a limit. Anyone know anything about this? I couldn't find anything on Microsoft's site (surprise!). Thanks, ~Todd -- Todd Rafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - http://www.web-rat.com/ | Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion | http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ | http://www.flashCFM.com/ - webRat (Moderator)| http://www.ultrashock.com/ - webRat (Back-end Moderator) | __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
ClusterCats server name issue
In attempting to go to http://www.foo.com, ClusterCats seems to be working properly, however the URL that appears in the browser's address line is either http://www1.foo.com or http://www2.foo.com. Anyone know if there is a way to suppress the numeric server identifier? Documentation is ... well ... inadequate. Thanks in advance, Matt __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. For Instance: A Mac server with a 60GB ATA IDE drive 256 MB ram, etc., is about $3k, I can do that with SCSI for less in an Intel box. On top of the fact that who uses ATA IDE drives in a server? Coupled with the fact that they don't offer harware RAID (which I wouldn't buy any production box without), etc., I would never be able to get it past upper management. I wouldn't even try. I'd love to have OS/X on a server, but Intel Linux or even Intel Win2k is cheaper. Not even saying anything about administrative costs due to inexperience with Apple hardware or software. Don't know enough about servers to respond other that there are several price points. http://www.apple.com/xserve/ One of these days, someone will do some benchmarks to make a realistic comparison of the Mac offering to the competition The lowest cost iMAC is pretty cheap (as far as desktops go), but again - I could do intel cheaper. Yes, but you might be more productive on a Mac Love the interface, love the fact it's on a BSD-based core, but it'll never have an inroad here without more offerings at less price. You can get a classic iMac starting at $799 (new, better used) This is a lot faster, etc than the old iMac I used for the port of CFMX to OS X -- and it has exactly the same OS, Java, Apache, Perl, yadda, yadda, yadda http://www.apple.com/imac/g3/ Dick -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as far as being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this? IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop operating system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-) John Venable __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ClusterCats server name issue
I found it automatically goes to that when the server in charge is unavailable so it has to boot you to another box so it actually shows you the URL of the box you are on. Its unavoidable i think unless possibly you keep your CLuster cats control server out of the loop and just let it manage the cluster but thats impractical for most of us Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: Matt Kornguth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: ClusterCats server name issue In attempting to go to http://www.foo.com, ClusterCats seems to be working properly, however the URL that appears in the browser's address line is either http://www1.foo.com or http://www2.foo.com. Anyone know if there is a way to suppress the numeric server identifier? Documentation is ... well ... inadequate. Thanks in advance, Matt __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: IIS buffer overflow?
Hi John, thanks for the link, very nice program. I actually do not run any COM object under this specific server. Also, I just run ColdFusion applications, none of then with COM... I'm gonna check the detailed error log provided by AutoDump+ and try to see what is going on. Thanks. []'s! Alex -Original Message- From: Stover, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01/08/2002 12:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: IIS buffer overflow? From the error you list, you might have bad code on the server that is causing this crash. Do you have any COM objects or such that may be causing access errors or fatal exceptions? These kinds of errors cause IIS to crash If you really want to find the source, check out this process Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - Q286350 HOWTO: Use Autodump+ to Troubleshoot Hangs and Crashes http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q286350 John M Stover II [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: IIS buffer overflow? Hi Folks, sorry for the OT but I really cant find a answer for what is happening to my IIS server. Maybe you can help me on that annoying thing. Everyday, at least one time, my IIS crashes and turn back working... The message I found on EventViewer is: Event Type: Error Event Source: Service Control Manager Event Category: None Event ID: 7031 Date: 28/7/2002 Time: 18:43:59 User: N/A Computer: XINGU Description: The World Wide Web Publishing Service service terminated unexpectedly. It has done this 15 time(s). The following corrective action will be taken in 0 milliseconds: No action. I take the same for the FTP service, IIS Admin Service (at the same time - IIS Admin Service seems to occur first). Well, this error is notorious by it's relation to the buffer overflow atacks in the IIS such as nimda e so on. My server is running URLScan tool (2.5), I have all patches that MS could imagine regarding security in both server and the iis service, I disabled all app mappings (except the .cfm), removed all risk folders, tunned my regisrty entires to a more robust response to DoS attacks, my server runs under a very good hardware-based firewall, my cf apps are safe in terms of coding, etc, etc. Well, security cares are not a problem here since I do follow ALL Microsoft recommendations regarding it. I really don't know what can causes it under such circumstances. I've tried to contact M$ support but seems that IIS support must be payed... (it's not included when you buy your Win2k server). Not sure if this can cause problems to the IIS but I run my administrative pages (IIS remote administrative, CFAdministrator and so on) in a high port (eg. 8711) under SSL encrypt... (also protecting contents for anonymous access). I also run SFTP under port 22 (but I don't think this is related to that since the SSH ftp uses it's own ftp server machine). Any clues?? Thanks a lot! Alex __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
BAD thread semaphores
This is a serious problem we've been having lately. It probably is a bad query that is causing the thread problem but nowhere is the template/program identified that is causing the problem. Warning,TID=228364,08/01/02,12:10:49, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=228364,08/01/02,12:10:49, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=229389,08/01/02,12:10:57, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=229389,08/01/02,12:10:57, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=230414,08/01/02,12:10:57, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=230414,08/01/02,12:10:57, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=231439,08/01/02,12:10:58, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=231439,08/01/02,12:10:58, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=232464,08/01/02,12:11:06, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=232464,08/01/02,12:11:06, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=233489,08/01/02,12:11:07, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=233489,08/01/02,12:11:07, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=234508,08/01/02,12:11:20, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=234508,08/01/02,12:11:20, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=235538,08/01/02,12:11:23, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=235538,08/01/02,12:11:23, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Warning,TID=236557,08/01/02,12:11:32, Timed out while waiting for thread semaphore (5 requests are active) Warning,TID=236557,08/01/02,12:11:32, Template: , Ran: 30 seconds Anyone have a clue how I can find out what is causing this? This chokes the CF server so that web users see page timed out due to extremely high traffic. lol, I WISH I had enough traffic to choke my hardware. we are using linux 7, cf 4.5 , oracle 8i. thanks, Steve __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Can anybody see a problem with this?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 06:05 , Alistair Davidson wrote: Off the top of my head I can't think of a reason why that wouldn't work, but to my mind, relying on the server's error catching to perform designed functionality just feels wrong - it feels like bad design, and it's shifting some of your logic from the application itself to the server software that it's running under. Well, whichever way you slice this problem, it amounts to much the same thing: URL mapping. People who use Apache do this sort of stuff all the time via rewrite rules, redirects and proxies. If I was Bill, I'd dumped IIS and install Apache and have it rewrite the URLs from ^/[A-Za-z]*/?$ to /lookup.cfm?directory=$1 (which would also have to deal with any other valid top-level directories that had default index pages). Although with Apache, you could make the redirects and rewrites as smart as you wanted. Generally, people who run Apache feel that customizing Apache to achieve the desired result for the web site is perfectly reasonable - the config is all in text files that you can keep under version control. I can see why people who run IIS wouldn't want to do the same sort of thing... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFLOCK and CFIF
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 05:45 , Al Everett wrote: Or, to keep as much code in the CFLOCK as possible, this: cflock timeout=45 throwontimeout=No name=look_pick type=READONLY cfset sessionpicks = session.picks /cflock Or, in CFMX: cfif session.picks ... cfelse ... /cfif i.e., you don't need the read lock because shared scopes are 'safe' in CFMX. Also, a point of style - if session.picks is a boolean (true/false, yes/no, 1/0) why not write it as I have above? Then I'd question the actual name: picks does not sound like a boolean variable. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OS X Web Services Running! was Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 02:19 , Dick Applebaum wrote: You do *not* want to copy webservices.jar from the CF runtime/lib to /Library/Java/Extensions/ -- it screws up getting the definition of a local cfc as a web service, i.e. the following won't work http://127.0.0.1:8500/cfdocs/exampleapps/cfc/tempconverter.cfc?wsdl Nor will: http://127.0.0.1:8500/cfdocs/exampleapps/cfc/tempconverter.cfc as I just found out. Rats! I tried a few other combinations of moving .jar files around but I can't yet get both consuming and producing to work... I'll continue to work on this today! Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFGrid and its display width
I'm having a problem, and I've looked through the archives and the macromedia support forums, and I've seen mention of other people having this same problem as early as CF5, but haven't seen a resolution on any of those threads. Could be I'm missing it, but I'm not sureSo What happens, is that a random amount of the time (maybe about 15%) CFGrid loads up in a page, and the gray java box goes accross the width of screen as it should, but the grid piece only goes about half-way accross the screen. It also cuts off columns that would have been farther right than its border, and does not have a scroll bar to see them with. If I refresh, let it display, see the results, and refresh again, it happens consistantly at a random interval (IE: I can always get it to happen, but the amount of times required is not constant). 1. Has anyone else seen this? and 2. Any fix? I'll include the code, for what it's worth cfgrid height=150 query=ContactInfo name=gridContacts insert=no delete=no width=800 cfgridcolumn name=FullName width=170 header=Name href=../Contacts/contacts.cfm?Action=ViewContactID=#ContactInfo.ContactID# cfgridcolumn name=Title header=Title width=170 Cfgridcolumn name=WorkPhone header=Phone width=150 cfgridcolumn name=Email header=Email width=200 href=mailto:#ContactInfo.Email#; /cfgrid Josh Remus Network Administrator __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGrid and its display width
Yes, I've come across a problem similar to this one: I upgraded my version of IE to fix it. This happens as well in netscape? You might also try upgrading your JRE with the Sun JRE. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Matthew Small IT Supervisor Showstopper National Dance Competitions 3660 Old Kings Hwy Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 843-357-1847 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGrid and its display width I'm having a problem, and I've looked through the archives and the macromedia support forums, and I've seen mention of other people having this same problem as early as CF5, but haven't seen a resolution on any of those threads. Could be I'm missing it, but I'm not sureSo What happens, is that a random amount of the time (maybe about 15%) CFGrid loads up in a page, and the gray java box goes accross the width of screen as it should, but the grid piece only goes about half-way accross the screen. It also cuts off columns that would have been farther right than its border, and does not have a scroll bar to see them with. If I refresh, let it display, see the results, and refresh again, it happens consistantly at a random interval (IE: I can always get it to happen, but the amount of times required is not constant). 1. Has anyone else seen this? and 2. Any fix? I'll include the code, for what it's worth cfgrid height=150 query=ContactInfo name=gridContacts insert=no delete=no width=800 cfgridcolumn name=FullName width=170 header=Name href=../Contacts/contacts.cfm?Action=ViewContactID=#ContactInfo.Contac tID# cfgridcolumn name=Title header=Title width=170 Cfgridcolumn name=WorkPhone header=Phone width=150 cfgridcolumn name=Email header=Email width=200 href=mailto:#ContactInfo.Email#; /cfgrid Josh Remus Network Administrator __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can anybody see a problem with this?
And in those corporate environments where the system admins wear Microsoft socks and Bill Gates underwear? Throwing Apache onto the production web servers might not get you employee of the year. ;) While Apache may be able to do so much more so much easier (for some!), sometimes you have to figure out a way to work with the tools you have ... IIS will allow you to backup and restore your configuration. Right click on IIS in MMC and you should have the option to do that. As for handling the marketing folks' desires, there is a way to handle this in IIS without relying on the 404 message handler. 1) Create a sub-directory that you will use for all these requests, say maybe 'people', so the request would look like http://www.mydomain.com/people/billhenderson. Or, alternatively set up a subdomain: people.mydomain.com/billhenderson. 2) In IIS, for that directory or subdomain, go to properties and choose the directory tab. Change the 'When connecting to this resource, the content should come from:' option to 'A redirection to a URL', and enter in the redirect to box /people.cfm?person=$0. (use the help on that tab to see other options) 3) Now the URL http://www.mydomain.com/people/billhenderson will be redirected to http://www.mydomain.com/people.cfm?person=/billhenderson. Same basic effect as Apache, just a little more(?) work to set up and a little less flexibility. Dan -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Can anybody see a problem with this? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 06:05 , Alistair Davidson wrote: Off the top of my head I can't think of a reason why that wouldn't work, but to my mind, relying on the server's error catching to perform designed functionality just feels wrong - it feels like bad design, and it's shifting some of your logic from the application itself to the server software that it's running under. Well, whichever way you slice this problem, it amounts to much the same thing: URL mapping. People who use Apache do this sort of stuff all the time via rewrite rules, redirects and proxies. If I was Bill, I'd dumped IIS and install Apache and have it rewrite the URLs from ^/[A-Za-z]*/?$ to /lookup.cfm?directory=$1 (which would also have to deal with any other valid top-level directories that had default index pages). Although with Apache, you could make the redirects and rewrites as smart as you wanted. Generally, people who run Apache feel that customizing Apache to achieve the desired result for the web site is perfectly reasonable - the config is all in text files that you can keep under version control. I can see why people who run IIS wouldn't want to do the same sort of thing... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can anybody see a problem with this?
Generally, people who run Apache feel that customizing Apache to achieve the desired result for the web site is perfectly reasonable - the config is all in text files that you can keep under version control. I can see why people who run IIS wouldn't want to do the same sort of thing... While the IIS metabase isn't a text file, you can certainly do the same sort of thing - you can backup and restore metabase files, or you can make the changes through scripts (and archive the scripts). In addition, there are plenty of ISAPI filters that do the same thing as mod_rewrite: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=IIS+%2Bmod_rewrite Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFGrid and its display width
I have not tested this in Netscape, but this does happen with either JRE v 1.3.1 or 1.4.0_01. The key is to get it to work IE, either way. I'm running 6.0 with all the applicable patches, etc. -Original Message- From: Matthew R. Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFGrid and its display width Yes, I've come across a problem similar to this one: I upgraded my version of IE to fix it. This happens as well in netscape? You might also try upgrading your JRE with the Sun JRE. http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Matthew Small IT Supervisor Showstopper National Dance Competitions 3660 Old Kings Hwy Murrells Inlet, SC 29576 843-357-1847 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFGrid and its display width I'm having a problem, and I've looked through the archives and the macromedia support forums, and I've seen mention of other people having this same problem as early as CF5, but haven't seen a resolution on any of those threads. Could be I'm missing it, but I'm not sureSo What happens, is that a random amount of the time (maybe about 15%) CFGrid loads up in a page, and the gray java box goes accross the width of screen as it should, but the grid piece only goes about half-way accross the screen. It also cuts off columns that would have been farther right than its border, and does not have a scroll bar to see them with. If I refresh, let it display, see the results, and refresh again, it happens consistantly at a random interval (IE: I can always get it to happen, but the amount of times required is not constant). 1. Has anyone else seen this? and 2. Any fix? I'll include the code, for what it's worth cfgrid height=150 query=ContactInfo name=gridContacts insert=no delete=no width=800 cfgridcolumn name=FullName width=170 header=Name href=../Contacts/contacts.cfm?Action=ViewContactID=#ContactInfo.Contac tID# cfgridcolumn name=Title header=Title width=170 Cfgridcolumn name=WorkPhone header=Phone width=150 cfgridcolumn name=Email header=Email width=200 href=mailto:#ContactInfo.Email#; /cfgrid Josh Remus Network Administrator __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: cfargument and dot notaion
Yes, yes I understand. I meant CFFunction, not CFCs per se.
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
It's not CFCs per se, but cffunction. So it applies to tag based UDFs as
well - don't forget cffunction can be used outside of CFCs.
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Yahoo IM : morpheus
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-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
That's what I thought. Oh well then.
Good thing that CFCs don't behave this way.
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
No, because in script based UDFs, if you list them, they
are required.
If you want to use optional args in script based UDFs, you
can't have
them between the parens.
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Yahoo IM : morpheus
My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
No...
I mean that in a UDF such as:
function HopeThisWorks (arg1, arg2, arg3) {
..is specifying the arguments enough to initialize the
corresponding variables?
In other words, after creating said UDF, would the call
HopeThisWorks(arg3=CrossFingers) be enough, without
paraming the other arguments within the UDF's body? Or would
the UDF crash and burn if the arguments were not paramed
somehow within the UDF's body?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
You mean how do dynamically pass crap to a UDF? Like
attributeCollection
in custom tags? Use argumentCollection:
cfset a = structNew()
cfset a.foo = 1
cfset res = myUDF(argumentCollection=a)
That should work.
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Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus
My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
-Original Message-
From: Kreig Zimmerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfargument and dot notaion
How do we param out arguments in a UDF then?
- Original Message -
From: Raymond Camden
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: cfargument and dot notaion
Yes, the order of args must match the order of cfarg tags.
Unless...
You use the new name/value pair notation, which works w/
UDFs as well:
cfset x = myUDForCFCMethod(arg=1,arg2=2,arg4=4,arg3=3)
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Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Macromedia
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus
My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda
-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfargument and dot notaion
When calling a cfc method using the dot notation, the
order of the
arguments given to the method must match the order of
the cfargument
tags in the body of the method, unlike cfinvoke, where
you have name
value pairs.
Example:
cfset objEmailMan = createObject(component,
emailman)
cfset isDupe =
objEmailMan.isDupe(trim(singleAddress),emailCategoryID)
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RE: Can anybody see a problem with this?
And in those corporate environments where the system admins wear Microsoft socks and Bill Gates underwear? Throwing Apache onto the production web servers might not get you employee of the year. ;) Yeah, Sean, while they're at it they might get rid of their OTHER proprietary software ... And, Dan, please, no more Bill Gates underwear references. Please. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Can anybody see a problem with this?
wear snip Bill Gates underwear shudder did you have to go there? :) Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OS X Web Services Running! was Re: X-server?
HHmm those mac portables starting to look much more attractive now...hehe -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OS X Web Services Running! was Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 02:19 , Dick Applebaum wrote: You do *not* want to copy webservices.jar from the CF runtime/lib to /Library/Java/Extensions/ -- it screws up getting the definition of a local cfc as a web service, i.e. the following won't work http://127.0.0.1:8500/cfdocs/exampleapps/cfc/tempconverter.cfc?wsdl Nor will: http://127.0.0.1:8500/cfdocs/exampleapps/cfc/tempconverter.cfc as I just found out. Rats! I tried a few other combinations of moving .jar files around but I can't yet get both consuming and producing to work... I'll continue to work on this today! Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ColdFusion Accessing exhcnage server calendar
I think from what I have heard and seen that its pretty difficuly with CF to get it working 100% -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 18:55 To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion Accessing exhcnage server calendar I've already been to cfcomet, anyone ever accessed a calendar on an exchnage server on CF? Robert Everland III Web Developer Extraordinaire Dixon Ticonderoga Company http://www.dixonusa.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Email lists
We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
I think price is not really issue at the mo (surely peripherals are so cheap that building your own is probably cheaper!?) Mac's are nice machines to look at (IMHO, so dont bother with your Mac-o-lite rants :-) No matter how much it moves on though, an iMac not only looks stoopid, but it has no floppy drive (yes, we still need them!)... I priced up the same configuration on an iMac I'm intrigued Was it running Windows :-)? -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ColdFusion Accessing exhcnage server calendar
How big a group of people? As a feasability test in prep for a department app (still not written) we wrote some Outlook VBA code to push calendar updates to a database. CF will then just look at the database. The VBA code isn't complete but does handle recurring appointments, etc. It would have to be loaded onto each client, so it wouldn't work for a large user base very well. If you are working with a larger group, but still all internal, then there is a lot that can be done on the Exchange server itself ... the same idea could be applied there. Shoot me an email off-list if you're interested in the Outlook code. Dan -Original Message- From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion Accessing exhcnage server calendar I've already been to cfcomet, anyone ever accessed a calendar on an exchnage server on CF? Robert Everland III Web Developer Extraordinaire Dixon Ticonderoga Company http://www.dixonusa.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses Lower the settings on your spam filter and buy a few of the CD's that are offered. Don't they all claim te be targeted :) B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. Not sending email marketing is a good way :) But seriously, if you wanted to reach the CF community, probably one of the best ways would be to be somewhere in the next few lines: __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Any place that has 'public' email lists is a good choice to start with. I've heard a whole lot about Topica selling lists of addresses. As for staying on peoples good sides, I'd say rigorous control over content and location is a must. If you know everything that's being sent out, when its going out and have a relatively good idea of who its going to then you've got a good start. Having quick public support service is another useful thing. Just as a side note for those who may have wondered, HoF does not distribute ANY of the email addresses that we have on our mailing lists or newsletters. We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
One good thing, like most of you, I have MANY different email addresses and some that just forward to other email addresses. I would include the opt-out with the email that is being sent such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. That way the person who wants to be removed can get their email removed that you sent your information too. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OS X Web Services Running! was Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 10:28 AM, Sean A Corfield wrote: I tried a few other combinations of moving .jar files around but I can't yet get both consuming and producing to work... I'll continue to work on this today! Yeah, I did that too -- kinda' like playing those bar games with dice cups and 6 dice each -- there are so many components (jars) and a multitude of combinations -- it takes some skill, but it's mainly luck. Dick __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Jochem van Dieten wrote: Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: But seriously, if you wanted to reach the CF community, probably one of the best ways would be to be somewhere in the next few lines: There was some text after this, but I think the filters took it off. Don't try to do targeted emails on your own. Find some community/mailinglist that targets the same people as your client wants to target. Talk to them about sponsoring. This type of lists is (almost) guaranteed opt-in, and if they are not it is quite likely somebody else takes the blame. If it is a community, you can even try to get some editorial about your client. In general, it profiles your client as an responsible member of the community, instead of a hit run spammer. Jochem __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Email lists
Im always paranoid to click on the remove me links in spam. It could be a way of validating that your email is a real email. -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Email lists One good thing, like most of you, I have MANY different email addresses and some that just forward to other email addresses. I would include the opt-out with the email that is being sent such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. That way the person who wants to be removed can get their email removed that you sent your information too. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
Just for argument's sake - in a P4 (2.54Ghz), it is VERY difficult to get up to $4,300. I spec'ed out what you just said, included a 17 flat screen, 80GB HD, etc, and I didn't come up with $4300. Much closer to $3500. That's in a precision (business-class line). I can't even get that close with a Dimension, which can still be a pretty high-end box. Like $2,750 for the Dimension. So...Not to get in a war of the specs with you, I just have not been able to realistically find Wintel not being cheaper. -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Yes, but then I take it you wouldn't do the reply to REMOVE method either. So you just don't opt-out? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign Im always paranoid to click on the remove me links in spam. It could be a way of validating that your email is a real email. -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Email lists One good thing, like most of you, I have MANY different email addresses and some that just forward to other email addresses. I would include the opt-out with the email that is being sent such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. That way the person who wants to be removed can get their email removed that you sent your information too. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
Almost all our developers develop on their local machine. There's a typically a test environment available but that's typically used when sanitizing and testing a build in dev before releasing to QA... -Original Message- From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? snip I'll reply in-line There are lots of web developers out there (myself included) that use Macs. Yes, client side. Not server side. Many develop applications that are hosted by outside services. Once again, client vs. server. Those who develop in CF develop apps that will be run on CF servers on some platform. That's a given Point 1 -- These Mac developers contribute to CF sales Many Mac developers do *not* write Web programs for CF because they cannot run CF on a local machine -- they are more productive in Java, PHP, Perl, whatever. I would beg to differ. OS/X is a recent development, ie: last year. This means that it is so new, that for many developers, their feet for server side deployment and application design are not quite balanced on the deck yet. Not to mention, in an ideal environment, you DEPLOY your application to a development machine. Not to the local machine. You should not test your applications on a server which DOES NOT mimic your production machine. This means if you develop on a WindowsXP machine, but deploy to a Win2k box, something has gone wrong. It should be develop on WinXP, deploy to TEST server (running win2k), verify everything still works as is, then redploy to live machine. ::shrug:: Just me being retentive again. I'm a Linux junkie. I develop on windows, or OS/2, or BeOS, or OS/X, etc, deploy to a test linux server, verify the code runs, then redeploy to production. Point 2 -- These Mac developers are contributing to the sales of MM's competitors The port of the Developer system to Mac OS X alleviates this problem to some extent -- Likely, independent contractors like myself will jump at the chance to run CF locally. This should increase their productivity and they should be able to deploy more apps to supported CF platforms. So do BSD developers, Mandrake, Slackware, etc. How many actual corporate application servers have been ported to OS/X. Barely ANY, if any at all. You can run PHP and PERL. The same theory applies to the other niche market Unix/BSD world. We CANNOT port to every single platform where we have any sort of competitor, we do not have the in house staff capable of doing so. The sheer resources needed would be astronomical. Point 3 - Availability of an unsupported developer system on OSX will likely make a contribution to CF sales and detract from competitive sales The fact that the port is unsupported means that it takes a lot of cajoling, wheedling (not bribes), and time (especially time) to get problems fixed, or even addressed. Likely, there will not be mass acceptance of CF as a development platform, by Mac users, until there is a supported developer platform -- CF running locally, not just DWMX* This is misnomer. Who says mac users will suddenly See the Light and start developing CFML when we port an application *server* to a primarily CLIENT-SIDE operating system? It's like developing a copy of dreamweaver to, say, Tru64. Your porting a client side application to a server side OS. Same applies to Linux, Solaris and BSD. * It's ironic that DWMX on the Mac contributes to the sales of CF competitors -- Mac users can develop in competitive languages that *do* run on the Mac, while CF does not. No, empowering the user is what Macromedia is about. Therefore, selling client-dev applications contributes to total revenue for Macromedia, which makes us happy. This does not mean that we should force CFML down the throats of Mac developers by removing functionality in DWMX to force them to use the new shiny CFMX for OS/X. Point 4 - Lack of a supported CF Mac developer platform will likely detract from CF sales and contribute to competitor sales. Those who have used CFMX on Mac OS X (I know most of them) think that is a sweet system -- superior to the other available options. I can't make this statement, because I have never developed on a Win, Solaris or Linux box. I can give this opinion: CFMX ON Mac OSX is the *Best* Web Application development system, running on the *Best* Operating system running on the *Best* Personal Computer. I can give this opinion: CFMX on Linux is the best Web Application development system, running the *Best* Operating system running on the *Best* Personal computer. I betcha 30$ that my Linux workstation (Dual Pentium 4 1.4 GHZ, 2 gigs of Ram, an brand new Radeon card) running
RE: X-server?
We spend much more for the Solaris equivalent -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as far as being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this? IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop operating system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-) John Venable __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Email lists
That is what most of them do. At 02:44 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: Im always paranoid to click on the remove me links in spam. It could be a way of validating that your email is a real email. -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Email lists One good thing, like most of you, I have MANY different email addresses and some that just forward to other email addresses. I would include the opt-out with the email that is being sent such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. That way the person who wants to be removed can get their email removed that you sent your information too. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: X-server?
On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM= wrote: I think price is not really issue at the mo (surely peripherals are so cheap that building your own is probably cheaper!?) Mac's are nice machines to look at (IMHO, so donít bother with your Mac-o-lite rants :-) No matter how much it moves on though, an iMac not only looks stoopid, but it has no floppy drive (yes, we still need them!)... I am curious, what do you use a floppy for? Is it the requirement of your OS or your application? I haven't needed or used a floppy drive in 4 years -- The Mac OS works very nicely with floppy or CD Images. These can be copied to hard disk, uploaded, downloaded, emailed, burned to CD (and yes, even copied to a floppy disk). all Macs come with NFS and AFP networking hardware and software built in with a real plug and play interface -- you don't even require a crossover cable to connect 2 Macs -- The hardware/software determines the type of ethernet cable and adjusts accordingly. All Macs come with a web server: Apache. all Macs come with internet connection hardware, software and free trial internet connection All Macs come with a free 20 MB personal disk space on an Apple web Server (this will change soon to $99/year for 100MB disk space plus some other goodies). sneaker-net is not needed All of the above can be used to exchange files -- If you really need a floppy you can get one for about $100 (last time i looked) I priced up the same configuration on an iMac I'm intrigued Was it running Windows :-)? No, Mac OSX, but you could get an emulator Virtual PC for $90 (if you already own Win) or $90 -$140 more if you want to buy win 98, XP Home, or Win200. This also allows you to emulate other Intel OSes such as RH Linux. So, dollar-wise, I think the cost of the Mac is still lower cost. HTH Dick -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Way OT :-) Email lists
Thats what server-level anti-spam software is for. I'd have literally double my mail volume without it. Between Declude and Cloudmark I'm finally 99% spam free. Speaking of which, as an fyi every HoF message I receive says this in the headers: X-RBL-Warning: HELOBOGUS: Domain hof001.houseoffusion.com has no MX/A records. Its not enough weight to get the mail tossed. --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- from: Paul Giesenhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:46:06 -0500 Yes, but then I take it you wouldn't do the reply to REMOVE method either. So you just don't opt-out? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
I thought that the original discussion was about OS-X in the server world, not the desktop world. Here is a good comparo, from a Linux site, so it's not pro or anti apple by nature. It talks about the cost analysis a little bit. http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0724.macx.html It also has a link to some bench mark results and some other good stuff. Just food for thought. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? Just for argument's sake - in a P4 (2.54Ghz), it is VERY difficult to get up to $4,300. I spec'ed out what you just said, included a 17 flat screen, 80GB HD, etc, and I didn't come up with $4300. Much closer to $3500. That's in a precision (business-class line). I can't even get that close with a Dimension, which can still be a pretty high-end box. Like $2,750 for the Dimension. So...Not to get in a war of the specs with you, I just have not been able to realistically find Wintel not being cheaper. -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Paul Giesenhagen wrote: Yes, but then I take it you wouldn't do the reply to REMOVE method either. So you just don't opt-out? I very rarely opt-out. I just modify my spam filter and report them on some DNS blocklist. But I get very little spam actually. I suppose for some reason people think that the emailaddress spam@... (which I use with companies of which I don't know their position on spam) is invalid. Jochem PS Never email me in HTML, chances are your email will just be a number in the filter report :) __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Jacob wrote: That is what most of them do. Who is them? Can you prove that? Jochem __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
Hi Dick :-) Good points, but they are still not sturdy enough for hi-end client or any type of server environment. I know you are a Mac-man and indeed will push it much like a Microsoftian :-p but in this case you can go on and on about it, and it will still always come down to the fact that they wont be as good as Windoze (or others) for development or serving.. As for a floppy (just one example), lets say I have a 1.2 meg file which I dont want to email to myself as I only have a 56K connection, I want to move it to my other machine which has no Zip and I dont want to waste a CD on the data i.e. USE A FLOPPY! They still have their uses... -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 20:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM= wrote: I think price is not really issue at the mo (surely peripherals are so cheap that building your own is probably cheaper!?) Mac's are nice machines to look at (IMHO, so donít bother with your Mac-o-lite rants :-) No matter how much it moves on though, an iMac not only looks stoopid, but it has no floppy drive (yes, we still need them!)... I am curious, what do you use a floppy for? Is it the requirement of your OS or your application? I haven't needed or used a floppy drive in 4 years -- The Mac OS works very nicely with floppy or CD Images. These can be copied to hard disk, uploaded, downloaded, emailed, burned to CD (and yes, even copied to a floppy disk). all Macs come with NFS and AFP networking hardware and software built in with a real plug and play interface -- you don't even require a crossover cable to connect 2 Macs -- The hardware/software determines the type of ethernet cable and adjusts accordingly. All Macs come with a web server: Apache. all Macs come with internet connection hardware, software and free trial internet connection All Macs come with a free 20 MB personal disk space on an Apple web Server (this will change soon to $99/year for 100MB disk space plus some other goodies). sneaker-net is not needed All of the above can be used to exchange files -- If you really need a floppy you can get one for about $100 (last time i looked) I priced up the same configuration on an iMac I'm intrigued Was it running Windows :-)? No, Mac OSX, but you could get an emulator Virtual PC for $90 (if you already own Win) or $90 -$140 more if you want to buy win 98, XP Home, or Win200. This also allows you to emulate other Intel OSes such as RH Linux. So, dollar-wise, I think the cost of the Mac is still lower cost. HTH Dick -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Email lists
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. Yes, we have done my best to attempt to disuade this client from doing a blanket spam approach. They are paying us for developement and our best advice (which we have given them). Whatever they end up deciding we will insist on a rigourous opt-in/opt-out criteria. -mk -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Email lists Yes, but then I take it you wouldn't do the reply to REMOVE method either. So you just don't opt-out? Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign Im always paranoid to click on the remove me links in spam. It could be a way of validating that your email is a real email. -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Email lists One good thing, like most of you, I have MANY different email addresses and some that just forward to other email addresses. I would include the opt-out with the email that is being sent such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever. That way the person who wants to be removed can get their email removed that you sent your information too. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
That's the best article I've seen yet, but on their price compares, I still can't come up with the numbers they're using for intel + linux. If you're comparing X-serv to a more commercial product such as a sun server, I believe that apple might stack up very nicely. And win2k is more expensive, at least from a software perspective, certainly. I'm still seeing Intel+Linux being 20% under the price of Apple hardware. Might be worth the difference, who knows. -Original Message- From: Buddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? I thought that the original discussion was about OS-X in the server world, not the desktop world. Here is a good comparo, from a Linux site, so it's not pro or anti apple by nature. It talks about the cost analysis a little bit. http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0724.macx.html It also has a link to some bench mark results and some other good stuff. Just food for thought. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? Just for argument's sake - in a P4 (2.54Ghz), it is VERY difficult to get up to $4,300. I spec'ed out what you just said, included a 17 flat screen, 80GB HD, etc, and I didn't come up with $4300. Much closer to $3500. That's in a precision (business-class line). I can't even get that close with a Dimension, which can still be a pretty high-end box. Like $2,750 for the Dimension. So...Not to get in a war of the specs with you, I just have not been able to realistically find Wintel not being cheaper. -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
I think Apple's X-Serve is a very solid and attractive offer for folks running in a Solaris environment. Way cheaper. -Original Message- From: Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? Hi Dick :-) Good points, but they are still not sturdy enough for hi-end client or any type of server environment. I know you are a Mac-man and indeed will push it much like a Microsoftian :-p but in this case you can go on and on about it, and it will still always come down to the fact that they wont be as good as Windoze (or others) for development or serving.. As for a floppy (just one example), lets say I have a 1.2 meg file which I don't want to email to myself as I only have a 56K connection, I want to move it to my other machine which has no Zip and I don't want to waste a CD on the data i.e. USE A FLOPPY! They still have their uses... -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 20:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Neil Robertson-Ravo =TMM= wrote: I think price is not really issue at the mo (surely peripherals are so cheap that building your own is probably cheaper!?) Mac's are nice machines to look at (IMHO, so donít bother with your Mac-o-lite rants :-) No matter how much it moves on though, an iMac not only looks stoopid, but it has no floppy drive (yes, we still need them!)... I am curious, what do you use a floppy for? Is it the requirement of your OS or your application? I haven't needed or used a floppy drive in 4 years -- The Mac OS works very nicely with floppy or CD Images. These can be copied to hard disk, uploaded, downloaded, emailed, burned to CD (and yes, even copied to a floppy disk). all Macs come with NFS and AFP networking hardware and software built in with a real plug and play interface -- you don't even require a crossover cable to connect 2 Macs -- The hardware/software determines the type of ethernet cable and adjusts accordingly. All Macs come with a web server: Apache. all Macs come with internet connection hardware, software and free trial internet connection All Macs come with a free 20 MB personal disk space on an Apple web Server (this will change soon to $99/year for 100MB disk space plus some other goodies). sneaker-net is not needed All of the above can be used to exchange files -- If you really need a floppy you can get one for about $100 (last time i looked) I priced up the same configuration on an iMac I'm intrigued Was it running Windows :-)? No, Mac OSX, but you could get an emulator Virtual PC for $90 (if you already own Win) or $90 -$140 more if you want to buy win 98, XP Home, or Win200. This also allows you to emulate other Intel OSes such as RH Linux. So, dollar-wise, I think the cost of the Mac is still lower cost. HTH Dick -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 August 2002 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel solution can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. I priced up a new high-end Wintel desktop for my wife. A Dell at $4,300 including software and peripherals. Our of curiosity, I priced up the same configuration on an iMac and it was $3,500. (17 flat screen, 1Gb RAM, 80Gb HD (I think), Zip Drive, MS Office, etc). $800 is a big saving... If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
The ones I really despise are the ones that say This email is in compliance with blah blah federal regulation by providing a means of opting out. This is a one-time mailer, to be removed from this list, do nothing / do not reply. Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 Sounds like spam to me. What I have seen is the initial email will be sent with an opt-out option. To stay on peoples good side be prompt with removing addresses and do not BS . On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com ..no more brochures! __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Printing
Hey All, I'm just in the beginning phases of figuring out how I am going to make it hard (not bulletproof) for a user to print and image more than once. Now I'm open to how that image gets sent to the printer (as an image...in a Word fileother ideas...just not in a PDF). Requirements: Netscape or IE (version 4 and up) CF Server 5 Enterprise Currently using CFX_Image to add text to a blank image file (gif of jpeg...doesn't matter to me). My thoughts so far: I've looked at CF Comet and found a few methods of sending a Word file to the printer. That means I could drop the edited image into a Word doc and fire that to the printer. Now I suppose that if that method brings up the printer dialogue box then the user could simply up the number of copies (thoughts...comments). I was thinking of having the image (or thumbnail of it...with right clicking disabled) display in a pop-up window with a print link which would send the proper file to the client's printerclose the pop-upnavigate the main window to a new page and disable it's back button (not sure if I can disable it in IE and Netscape). That would take care of most average users. There may be folks that would try to work around it, but ultimately it's not too big of an issue if someone did. Thoughts? Comments? Cross browser crud? Links? Custom Tags? Thanks in advance Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
regexp
Hi, The snippet below does check to ensure that a user puts in a digit in a form. The problem is - if I test this code like adding a letter to the digit it does not flag the error. I will like to ensure that only digits are allowed and if anyone as much as adds a digit after or before - an error will be raised! Any bright ideas? cfif NOT ReFind([0-9], form.job_amount,True) cfset error_message = You must enter a number in the amount field. cfset error_fields = ListAppend(error_fields, job_amount) cfset OK = FALSE /cfif __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
Jochem PS Never email me in HTML, chances are your email will just be a number in the filter report :) HTML email is a pox... It gives people too much control over the medium of the message ... especially if the recipient is using shudder Outlook ( express or otherwise ) since Microsoft has decided not to allow users of their email client to make their own decisions about the formatting of their incoming email. Even if the sender isn't intending to do anything unpleasant with the message ( like embedding javascript that will continually throw up popup advertising ), I often find the sender's formatting simply repulsive, i.e. they'll put font color=red down on top of body color=blue ... Who can possibly look at that and not get a headache? Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
amen to that! -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? We spend much more for the Solaris equivalent -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as far as being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this? IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop operating system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-) John Venable __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: X-server?
But my OS is better. And Cheaper. OS/2 WARP WILL NEVER DIE. Jesse Noller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Macromedia Server Development Unix/Linux special guy -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? amen to that! -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? We spend much more for the Solaris equivalent -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: X-server? -Original Message- From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: X-server? Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash left for software :) From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as far as being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this? IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to this point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are excited. Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server. Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop operating system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-) John Venable __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: regexp
Try this: ^[0-9]+$ A string must start (^) with a number ([0-9]), at least one number must exist (+) and the string ends after one or more numbers ($). Hi, The snippet below does check to ensure that a user puts in a digit in a form. The problem is - if I test this code like adding a letter to the digit it does not flag the error. I will like to ensure that only digits are allowed and if anyone as much as adds a digit after or before - an error will be raised! Any bright ideas? cfif NOT ReFind([0-9], form.job_amount,True) cfset error_message = You must enter a number in the amount field. cfset error_fields = ListAppend(error_fields, job_amount) cfset OK = FALSE /cfif __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
bah html email is the best thing to happen to email :) Outlook express is great if you are not a common non technical person off the street. And i look at it like this, webpages can look horrible with green on red or pink on red so i guess emails can too. If it gets too painful i just tell it to use my color scheme instead of theirs. Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Email lists Jochem PS Never email me in HTML, chances are your email will just be a number in the filter report :) HTML email is a pox... It gives people too much control over the medium of the message ... especially if the recipient is using shudder Outlook ( express or otherwise ) since Microsoft has decided not to allow users of their email client to make their own decisions about the formatting of their incoming email. Even if the sender isn't intending to do anything unpleasant with the message ( like embedding javascript that will continually throw up popup advertising ), I often find the sender's formatting simply repulsive, i.e. they'll put font color=red down on top of body color=blue ... Who can possibly look at that and not get a headache? Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
S. Isaac Dealey wrote: The ones I really despise are the ones that say This email is in compliance with blah blah federal regulation by providing a means of opting out. This is a one-time mailer, to be removed from this list, do nothing / do not reply. I like those. If they contain any reference to H.R. 3113 they will encounter rule number 2 in my spam filter (Subject: Adv* is on number one). Jochem __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: regexp
Hi, The snippet below does check to ensure that a user puts in a digit in a form. The problem is - if I test this code like adding a letter to the digit it does not flag the error. I will like to ensure that only digits are allowed and if anyone as much as adds a digit after or before - an error will be raised! Any bright ideas? cfif NOT ReFind([0-9], form.job_amount,True) cfset error_message = You must enter a number in the amount field. cfset error_fields = ListAppend(error_fields, job_amount) cfset OK = FALSE /cfif You're wanting to validate monetary values people are assigning to jobs? ... The issue you're having is that you're going about validation in reverse -- you want to ensure that the field contains no non-numeric values, rather than ensuring that it contains numeric values as above... so... I would probably use this as being the simplest solution (doesn't even require any regex): cfif not isnumeric(form.job_amount) cfset error_message = blah blah... /cfif Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFCs, Tiers and Naming Conventions
Ok don't laugh but I'm stuck trying to figure out a good naming convention for my CFCs and I'm stuck. I'm very particular to this kind of stuff...and I'm wondering what other folks are using... This is the kind of file structure I've got: mySite/ api/ user/ service.cfc common/ networkLibrary.cfc stringLibrary.cfc In this example I would typically have 3-4 tiers. service.cfc is typically the focal point and is exposed remotely. It has functions like login that kicks off other functions...establishing needed data in the session scope. The second class of CFCs I would have here is for applying any logic to data derived by the third class which I'd classify as a Data Access Layer. Façade - Biz Logic - Data Access Layer There are times when I feel the need to break the Biz Logic into two layers...an example of this would be a recordset I'm holding in session scope that I would like to re-orderor apply some other specific logic on it...kind of a managed client type logic that would only be used locally. Façade - Client - Biz Logic - Data Access Layer So I guess my questions are...Does anyone take a simlar approach? Any alternative solutions? Anyone have particular naming schemes they use to denote for each CFC to show it's realm or tier? Appreciate any insight from u good folks, Stace htmltable border=1 width= height=td width= height=bfont face=Times New Roman color=red size=1span lang=FR-CA style=FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: FR-CAAVIS IMPORTANT/span/font/bfont color=red size=1span lang=FR-CA style=FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: FR-CA:/span/font font color=black size=1span lang=FR-CA style=FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ansi-language: FR-CALes informations contenues dans le présent document et ses pièces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et réservées à l'usage de la (des) personne(s) à qui il est adressé. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire, soyez avisé que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibée. Si vous avez reçu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plaît communiquer immédiatement avec l'expéditeur et détruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme./span/font p style=text-align: justify; padding: 1bfont face=Times New Roman color=red size=1span style=FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0ptWARNING/span/font/bfont color=red size=1span style=FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: red; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt:/span/font font color=black size=1span style=FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0ptThe information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited.nbsp; If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind./span/font /td/table/html __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Email lists
When you reply to a spam for removal it says Your email address is good. Can you prove it does not ;-) At 09:11 PM 8/1/2002 +0200, you wrote: Jacob wrote: That is what most of them do. Who is them? Can you prove that? Jochem __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Email lists
The key to this is to only send to people who have specifically requested your message. We send mail for clients and sometimes have to use outside lists. When we do, we have the list provider send the mails from their servers, and we do not put our logos on the ads. We only put our identifying info on stuff we send directly. Most third-party lists we've used absolutely suck. When we use client's lists, we get anywhere from 10% - 50% clickthroughs, with very, very low opt-out rates (like .07%). With third party lists, we're lucky to get 2%. That's not a typo - Two Percent. It's also a good idea to get a disclaimer signed by your client releasing you from any performance clauses - make sure the client understands that the response may be dismal and that you are not responsible for it. If they balk at signing, deliver the content and let them take responsibility for finding a mailing service with lists. -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Email lists We have a client interested in running an email marketing campaign. I was wondering if anyone out there could give me advice on: A) Where do you generally go to get targeted email addresses and B) What are the ins and outs that help stay on peoples good side and stay off the ISP black lists. My previous experience has been with subscribed newsletters, not with spa uh emaill marketing. -mk Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG www.cfwebtools.com www.necfug.com .no more brochures! __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: regexp
: cfif NOT ReFind([0-9], form.job_amount,True) This only checks to see if a digit exists. Try something like this: cfif ReFind([^0-9], form.job_amount) or (form.job_amount is ) cfset error. It checks to see if there's anything /except/ digits or if the field is empty. Keep in mind that this will trip on 1.6 or on 5(because of the spaces). Depending on exactly what you want to validate for, you may want to trim the variable first, look for decimal points and +/- signs, etc. --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: regexp
Try this:
^[0-9]+$
A string must start (^) with a number ([0-9]), at least one number must
exist (+) and the string ends after one or more numbers ($).
Oooh oooh! ...
function IsNumeric(string) {
return yesnoformat(REFind(^[0-9]$,string));
}
isnumeric(3) = yes
usnumeric(3,000) = no
Wow that would be useful... How come on one's thought of that before? :)
Sorry Mike... just poking a little geeky fun at your expense. :)
Although actually, if the field is supposed to be numeric you can make it a
little easier on some of the slower ( mentally ) users by eliminate dollar
signs, commas and decimals which are common formatting elements for money
values... which can be done with regex, although I think I would probably
wind up using replacelist
Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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Re: regexp
The IsNumeric() approach is better than using RegEx. Less overhead. cfif not isnumeric(form.job_amount) cfset error_message = blah blah... /cfif Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
