Re: Did you just say CCNA two point oh?

2000-06-25 Thread Atif Awan

Go for CCNA 2.0 ..

Regards
Atif

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Date: Sunday, June 18, 2000 9:04 PM
Subject: Did you just say CCNA two point oh?


I bought ICRC and Lammle's CCNA last year, but never quite found the time
to
read it until now.  Just when I was eager to read and take the exam this
summer, I found out about CCNA 2.0 and that CCNA 1.0 exam was expiring on
July 31st.

Let's see, would I be qualified to take the CCNP 2.0 exams, after CCNA 1.0?
or would I have to start new and take CCNA 2.0 anyways?  Would it be
advisable to take the 1.0 or 2.0 exam at THIS very point?

And Microsoft wants me to take the Win2K accelerated exam by the end of
this
year.  Pressure Pressure.

Max


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Re: Cisco Centri

2000-06-25 Thread E. Carolina Arias S.

This product had so many problems, Cisco stopped selling it more than a
year ago, I think.

We had such problems that we had to give the client a pix for the same
price he had paid for centri.

Sammi wrote:

 Hi all,
 I would like to obtain the 30-day evaluation of Cisco Centri firewall.
 The link at:
 http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/internet/centri-planner.shtml
 is broken. Does anyone know of another source for the evaluation? Or
 perhaps someone could recommend another Cisco security product I could
 use on my NT 4.0 box (no routers) so as to become familiar with Cisco
 security products.
 Thanks.

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VPN Hierarchical Design questions

2000-06-25 Thread JohnMail

Folks:

I am preparing for the CCDA and plan to write same before 31 July, 2000. I
have two questions.  The first one revolves around VPN.  The other question
deals with CISCO's Hierarchical Network Design concepts.

(1)  Assume that I have six simple LANs - one HQ  LAN and 5 Branch LANs.
Assume also that each LAN consists of one Server and 4 workstations.  If I
want to link these simple networks using VPN;  what king of Hardware and
Software would I have to buy. I would also like to compare and contrast
Microsoft's VPN (which I believe is built into Win2000) and CISCO's VPN.
Thanks in advance guys.

(2)   In this second scenario, I want to connect a router at each LAN site
and make use of CISCO'S hierarchical network design principles.  Can anyone
explain or draw a simple diagram of what the network structure would look
like at the CORE, DISTRIBUTION, and ACCESS layers.



Thanks,
John

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Re: Thanks

2000-06-25 Thread BIKEMAN

Hi David

I'm afraid that there is no way I'll let you tease me like that ! Spill it -
preparation, what to focus on, spiritual guidance - we are not worthy o thy
CCIE master

Rudi
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 I just wanted to send a note of thanks to all the "experts" on the list.
I
 have been a lurker mainly but I just passed the CCIE written.

 Big Big Thank you Todd, Howard, Pricilla and the rest of the gang!!


 David Vigna
 Senior Network Engineer
 CCNP/CCDP, CNE, MCSE
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Re:ACRC

2000-06-25 Thread praveen walia

hi group,
i  wish somebody would clarify this.  please...
i took it (acrc) couple weeks ago and failed . got
768.  i skipped the survey and went straight to the
exam.  if the survey is counted  towords passing one
shouldn't be able to skip it ! I was very well
prepared finished 15 mins early.   used cisco
books,boson tests,sybex tests,global knowledge book .
also have 1.5 yrs exp cisco routers. and prepared for
4months!  never failed an exam in my life before this
one!

when you answer fill-in commands q's , can you assume
to be in proper router mode?
i did so. 

will greatly appreciate any info
thanks
praveen walia
Equant

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Earthquakes?

2000-06-25 Thread Shaq Patel

How do you make machines in california or where ever reistent and shock
proof, best possible way during an earthquake?


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any MRTG document

2000-06-25 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Dear friends,

Do you have any document for MRTG? Like how to implement and etc?  

Thank you

Tong







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Re: How far by self study?

2000-06-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Boson tests are your friend.  A router kit from me probably wouldn't hurt
either!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Optimized Systems Inc.
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 Hi one and all,
 I am curious to know how many people have got to CCDP/CCNP
 by self study alone. the difficulty of this is a like the length of
string,
 given enouh time most things are possible. Realistically, without
attending
 training courses is it so difficult to get through these exams. I did the
 course for CCNA (really good) but self studied CCDA. This i reckon took me
 aboout a week of solid study but it came across as a "study friendly
topic".
  I am now looking at the CCDP path and the CID first, it looks really
bloody
 difficult! But don't all new topics? So can anybody give advice on the
 reality of CCDP self study?
  thanks
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Re: IOS naming convention

2000-06-25 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, SteveS wrote:

 Michael,
 
 Thanks, but this goes to CCO docs. I tried putting a "guest" in place of the
 "customer" in the link, no go.

Try it with "public" instead of "customer".

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/4.html#version

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/5.html

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  Hey, I just sent a note out about synch/asych ports on a 1005 being based
 on
  the IOS.  Then I came up with this after I deleted the note.  Thougth it
  might be ineteresting to pass on.
 
  IOS Naming convention -
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/620/4.html#version
 
  The value of the IOS features -
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/620/5.html
 
  q - does indeed mean you are able to run asynch
  n - IPX enabled
  y - reduced IP

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cisco logo

2000-06-25 Thread Nigel Samuel



Anyone know if there is a CCNP Logo that can be put on 
letterheads, cards, resumes.. I know both Novell and Microsoft have a log 
program. Wanted to know if Cisco has the same?

Nigel



Re: Help me catch a Hacker

2000-06-25 Thread Craig Hill

Hi,

If you have a Network Management station you can
enable Cold Start Traps to alert you when the router
has been restarted. Logging will not do you any good
if he is powering down the router. I would also
suggest implementing TACACS+. There is a log file that
stores details about every command issued in the
router and also who issued the commands. People like
that really bug me. Good luck

 
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  Greetings,
 
  I've a 7000 router in a remote location and it
 seems
  the local admin hacking in by using the power
 outage
  excuse.  He changes the password by rebooting the
  router and peeks around.  I'm trying to catch him
 in
  the act or log his activities,  any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Nabil
 
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Re: HSRP Resources?

2000-06-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

For that matter, Cisco published the HSRP protocol specification as 
an informational RFC:

2281 Cisco Hot Standby Router Protocol (HSRP). T. Li, B. Cole,P.
  Morton, D. Li. March 1998

You can contrast this with the IETF alternative, Virtual Router 
Redundancy Protocol:

   2338 Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol. S. Knight, D. Weaver, D.
Whipple, R. Hinden, D. Mitzel, P. Hunt, P. Higginson, M Shand, A.
  Lindem.

Sorry this is a better resource:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/cs009.htm

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Try this:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/4.html


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i have two locations with (2) T1s between them i wish to set up HSRP so
there is a standby router at each location.  the standby router would be
connected to the backup T.

does anyone know of anywhere i can get most importantly, diagrams of this
type of set up. i am not sure if what i want to do is the best design,

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Route-Maps!

2000-06-25 Thread Michael Fountain

I haven't worked with route maps much, so this is just a first guess, but I 
noticed your second permit doesn't have a match statement.  Do you have a 
match set up for the next statement you are wanting to do?



Hi All,

I am using Route Maps to assign different metrics to routes learned from 
the
same routing protocol,
a)I defined the access-list,
b)defined the route map and the metric
route-map CCIE permit 23
match ip address 1
set metric 69 100 255 1 1500
!
route-map CCIE permit 20
set metric 59 100 255 1 1500
c)applied the route map to the redistribution statement
redistribute rip route-map CCIE

Successfully, I was able to do it for two routes, I've tried for more than 
2
and it doesn't work!!! Is this possible? If yes, what am I missing?
Thank you all
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Re: Joining study group

2000-06-25 Thread J. Oquendo

Would love to join the group

J. Oquendo
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i wana join the study group too
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Re: ISDN problem

2000-06-25 Thread vr4drvr .

it's more then likely that your spids are not configured properly, not 
necessarily invalid.


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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:24:14 -0500

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  ISDN BRI0 interface
  dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-5ess
  Layer 1 Status:
  ACTIVE
  Layer 2 Status:
  TEI = 89, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
  I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
  Spid Status:
  TEI 89, ces = 1, state = 8(established)
  spid1 configured, spid1 NOT sent, spid1 NOT valid
  TEI Not Assigned, ces = 2, state = 1(terminal down)
  spid2 configured, spid2 NOT sent, spid2 NOT valid

Maybe a dumb question, but could it be that your SPIDs are not valid?

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To those of you know inverse arp on FR interface

2000-06-25 Thread Weiguo Lu (ETC)

 Hi group 
   does any one know HOW( i mean to know how not why)a FR interface on cisco router 
learns destination layer three address in association with local DLCI if using 
Inverse-arp on a certain DLCI .
  is inverse-arp message included in lmi packet which is found between router and FR 
switch or there is a certain pvc between router and FR switch to maintain the 
inverse-arp functionality.
  YOur answer would be highly appreciated
Lu

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CCIE written next week...

2000-06-25 Thread Patrick Murphy



I am writing the CCIE next week. Any recent writers 
have any advice!

I have already completed the CCNP May/99 and have 
about 4 yrs working with Cisco gear and 8yrs Networking.



Patrick


RE: AUX port on A/S router

2000-06-25 Thread Siobhán Mewhinney

Ya. If you take a look in the Cisco documentation on the web, you'll find on
any one of the hardware manuals of the 2500 series, a layout for the RJ-45
port. From there, all you have to do if you can't get the adapter from Cisco
is splice an Ethernet cable and a serial cable together with the right pin
outs. Being able to do this is relatively handy, I've found.

* Siobhán

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RJ-45 to DB-25 adapter

 "Luong, David" wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Can someone tell me how to hook up a modem to the AUX port? It
 requires a RJ connection so what kind of cable would be required to
 hook it up? RJ to ???

 Thanks.

 Dave.

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how to config ISDN - ISDN

2000-06-25 Thread Minh Vu



Hi all,

I have two ISDN router (804  1604). I 
try to learn how to config ISDN. Is there possible to make ISDN cross-over 
cable and let each other dial into(ie. dial-on-demand). If yes, please 
show me how to make cross-over and configure it.

Thanks


RE: Could not create subinterfaces

2000-06-25 Thread Steve Smith

Are you using Frame-Relay?

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Subject: Re: Could not create subinterfaces


If you are using IOS 10.2 or before...it will not allow subinterfaces.

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 Hello,

 I tried to create a subinterface on s0 but i could not. Can any body tell
me why?


 Thanks
 Omer

 3102(config)#int s0.1
 % Incomplete command.


 3102#sh ru
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.3
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 no service password-encryption
 !
 hostname 3102


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RE: Could not create subinterfaces

2000-06-25 Thread Stull, Cory

You also first have to set your encaps to frame-relay on the ser
interface...

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If you are using IOS 10.2 or before...it will not allow subinterfaces.

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 Hello,

 I tried to create a subinterface on s0 but i could not. Can any body tell
me why?


 Thanks
 Omer

 3102(config)#int s0.1
 % Incomplete command.


 3102#sh ru
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.3
 service timestamps debug uptime
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 no service password-encryption
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 hostname 3102


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Re: Free CBT site , download while you can !

2000-06-25 Thread Natasha

Not a lot of things upset me enough to publicly complain but if what is
being done here is giving away software and cracks for Cisco training
courses then mister what you are doing is illegal. As a software
developer I put a lot of work and time into projects and would not be
very happy to see it given away.
Folks I suggest if this is the case, please do not download it! Any
cracked software may contain potentially damaging code and should not be
trusted.
If this is not the case and I'm over reacting then I apologize to the
group.
Natasha

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RE: Nota para Infoncenter

2000-06-25 Thread np vt

Parlez vous Anglais? (not English...:) )

My .1


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Parlez vous English ?

Francisco Muniz wrote:

 Oscar,
 si te parece, esta es la nota para las
NNUU:

 Sres. Naciones Unidas:
 A quien corresponda,

 Certifico por la
presente que Infocenter
 S.A. es proveedor habitual de equipos Cisco tanto
para nuestro servicio de
 procesamiento y autorizaciones, como para nuestra
red Infonet. En la
 oportunidad, quiero también expresar mi satisfacción
con los servicios por
 ellos prestados. Me pongo a su disposición para
aclarar cualquier consulta
 que desee realizar respecto a tales servicios.

 Atentamente,

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CCDA - DCN objective

2000-06-25 Thread Tan Choh Koon



I am current using Cisco Press DCN book to prepared 
my CCDA. I had heard that some ATM question also appeared in exam, does it true 
?
Does any other questionsthat do not appear in 
the objective is ask in the DCN exam ??

C.K.Tan
CCNP



Re: CCNP Class question

2000-06-25 Thread eidinger

Take the ACRC. It's the hardest test and the ACRC class will help some with the
CMTD because it should cover DDR and ISDN. If you don't have any hands on router
experience make sure the class will give of some. See how much class time is
devoted to the lab. The best labs will have a router for each person in the
class. Ask if  you can practice in the lab when classes aren't using it and
check the lab schedule to see that you can. Some schools will allow you to set
in on a class a second time for free, handy if you didn't understand a subject
the first time or want a refresher.

Good luck

Mark E

Nat Heidler wrote:

 This is for anyone that has taken any of the CCNP classes from an authorized
 Cisco trainer.

 I found out yesterday that I get $2K per calender year to train. I want to
 use this for a Cisco class. My question is this: what test and/or class is
 the most difficult, or what class of the CCNP track should I take that I
 will get the most benefit from in a formal setting. I passed the CCNA on
 self study and am pretty comfortable w/router setup, etc.

 Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

 Nat Heidler
 Network Administrator, City of Olathe, KS
 CCNA, MCSE, CNA

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RE: two T1s

2000-06-25 Thread Joseph J Szczepanski

SH -
What does the current setup look like?  What type of routing is currently
being used?  For instance, if you are running ospf, most of this is already
taken care of for you.  If you running static routes, you will need to do
some work, but not much.

Joe

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Subject: two T1s


I'm at one location with two T1s to corporate.  How can I configure these
two T1s to load balance each other, provide redundancy for each other etc.
For instance, if one T1 goes down, all traffic that normally goes through
that T1 would now be re-routed to the other T1 which is up.  Also is there a
way to sort of multiplex or in Catalyst switch term port-channel, so that
these two T1s can be load balancing and redundant.

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#!$ lab setup problems

2000-06-25 Thread Brian Lodwick

I am having a rough time getting my home lab up and running, and would love 
to get some reccomendations on what to try next from the group. I feel like 
I have tried everything, but obviously I haven't, because it isn't working. 
Anyone care to help out?

CSU/DSU#1
TXD=solid green light
RXD=flashing green light
RTS=solid green light
CTS=solid green light
DCD=flashing green light
DTR=solid green light
OOS=flashing red light
LOS=flashing red light
ERR=flashing red light
TST=nothing

CSU/DSU#2
DSR=nothing
RTS=nothing
CTS=nothing
DCD=solid green light
TXD=nothing
RXD=solid green light
TST=nothing
NIS=nothing

  CSU/DSU#1 is set for internal clocking and #2 is set for external 
clocking. These are both set for synchronous 56k. The pinout noted in both 
instruction booklets shows pins 1 and 2 are transmit and pins 7 and 8 are 
receive and 3-6 are not used. I have 1 crossed to 8 and 2 crossed to 7. ( I 
also tried crossing 1 to 7 and 2 to 8 got the same thing).
CSU/DSU#1 is an ADC Kentrox D-serv 56, and CSU/DSU#2 is a 56K ROUTERmate 
made by Cray Communications.
  If I turn off #2 the flashing lights stop flashing and go dark, and the 
LOS goes to a solid red light.

  I have a 2501 connected to CSU/DSU#1 and a 2502 connected to CSU/DSU#2

  I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong anyone have any suggestions? 
I would be more than happy to give information I am not sure what else would 
be pertinent. Thank you in advance.
Brian

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BCRAN

2000-06-25 Thread Zahid Hassan

Hi everyone,

I would appreciate any input on the BCRAN exam.

How effective is the Boson exam for this test ?
What materials can be recommended for studying ?

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Re: BGP question

2000-06-25 Thread Darren Ward

Their ISP may also have used BGP Confederations at the edge to those
customers?

Darren

Brad Ellis wrote:

 Sounds like you guys were doing IBGP...

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  My former employer (an ISP) had BGP peering with our
  upstream provider(Telco). As I understand it so far,
  BGP4 is used to advertise routes between autonomous
  systems. One day I ran a web-based traceroute to my
  old haunt and it showed them having the same
  autonomous system number as our bandwidth provider.
  Were we unnecessarily using BGP? I don't understand
  why our telco and we (the ISP) had the same AS number.
 
 
  Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the AS number in
  BGP?
 
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Re: BGP question

2000-06-25 Thread Patrick A. Morin

Actually, it sounds like their address space was registered in 
RADB with there origin being there Telco ISP.

The traceroute you used (probably prtraceroute) looks up 
addresses in RADB to determine there origin AS. 

So, to Dan West, you are not misunderstanding the purpose
of the AS number in BGP, but I think you are
misinterpreting the meaning of the AS number you see in that
traceroute gateway. 

Take an address and check it in RADB and you'll see

whois -h whois.radb.net x.y.z.0 

Patrick
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 Sounds like you guys were doing IBGP...
 
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  My former employer (an ISP) had BGP peering with our
  upstream provider(Telco). As I understand it so far,
  BGP4 is used to advertise routes between autonomous
  systems. One day I ran a web-based traceroute to my
  old haunt and it showed them having the same
  autonomous system number as our bandwidth provider.
  Were we unnecessarily using BGP? I don't understand
  why our telco and we (the ISP) had the same AS number.
 
 
  Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the AS number in
  BGP?
 
  Many thanks.
 
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Re: CCNP salary

2000-06-25 Thread Paul Borghese

Please remember to post all Employment related posting to the "Jobs"
discussion group.

Thanks,

Paul
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Truly, what this newsgroup needs is a moderator to keep up a FAQ for
questions like this.  Groupstudy.. You hearing me?

Basically, it depends on where you live, your background and experience,
certs, your interview and negotiating skills, time of day, phase of the
moon, etc.  All of the above contribute to your $$.  Anywhere from
$30K-80K per year.. (I'm just estimating from job postings I see, so
don't flame me for being off)

Mike W.

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back to back CSU/DSU

2000-06-25 Thread Jim Rampley




Does anybody have any idea on the distance limitation on 
connectingtwo CSU/DSU's back to back using cat 5? I guess this would 
basically be the distance you can extend a T1 without boosting the signal. 
I have two buildings connected by cat 5 and it's about 900 feet so I was 
wondering if I could just connect them using a T1 crossover cable.

Jim



RE: Microsoft 'Routers'

2000-06-25 Thread Tretter, Paul

I agree, I have seen the Win2k boxes behave very stable - I havent used them
for routing but wouldnt hesitate to do so.  Use win2k for awhile and you
will be convinced that stability has arrived at M$.


Paul
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:29 PM
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 Excuse me, but Microsoft, Novell and various Unix platforms have been
 allowing for the routing of RIP and OSPF for a long time now.  I have used
 Windows 2000 and it is functional.
 a
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  I see that Microsoft has provided resources to configure OSPF and RIP in
  Windows 2000 servers
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  Has anybody evaluate this ? Do you think this could substitute 'real'
  routers ?
 
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RE: RTP, North Carolina

2000-06-25 Thread KELLY DEW


Actually, it is located between Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill, hence the
Triangle part of Research Triangle Park. It is not located in any city, but
rather in between 3 cities. The majority of it is located in Durham County,
upwards of 80% of it. The rest is in Wake County (Raleigh). Chapel Hill is
tacked on, because, well... it's Chapel Hill. I think RTP sounds better than RP
anyway :-)

Kelly Dew
Sr. Information Systems Specialist
USPS




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4500 4000 IOS ver compatibility

2000-06-25 Thread Glenn Flood




All,

I have a 4500M and a 
4000 series routers and would like to upgrade the IOS on the 4000 with the newer 
enterprise image on the 4500M. Has anyone done this before? Are the IOS versions 
compatible between the two routers?

Any advice would be 
welcomed.
Thanks, Glenn 


Re: CCIE Lab - San Jose

2000-06-25 Thread Joe Martin

Aaron,
Heres part of a message that I sent to someone a groupstudy who was
heading to the lab in SJ.  The Westin and Embassy Suites Santa Clara are
very close (10 min) from the lab.  I like the Embassy because they give free
breakfasts while the Westin is a nicer hotel but don't give anything away.
Like a Yoghurt and cereal with OJ was $20.00

Westin - Santa Clara - 888-627-8405
Quality Suites - 800-345-1554
Embassy Suites - Milpitas - 408-942-0400
Embassy Suites - Santa Clara - 800-embassy
Milpitas Residence Inn by Mariot - 408-941-9222

Location:
Cisco Systems
150 West Tasman Drive
Bldg C-1
San Jose, CA.  95134

How to get to Cisco from the SJ airport

Turn left onto Guadalupe Pkwy
Bear right towards N. First st.
Turn left onto N first st
Turn left onto W. Tasman Dr.
Turn left at champion  Tasman Dr.
150 West Tasman Drive Bldg C
Visitor parking is in front of building
Distance from airport is ~4mi.

Bruce Caslow told me this bit of advice and it worked for me: "Your already
a CCIE when you get to the lab.  They just want you to prove it"

Go get'em

JOE
CCIE 5917


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RE: Retransmissions

2000-06-25 Thread Jorge Rodriguez

I usually check my frame-relay links IN TWO WAYS, one show int s0
and look for the following:

0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4277 interface resets
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
By seen a high number of above that would tell me if there
are retransmissions, specially when there are collisions.
Collision rates would definately be retransmissions.
Your Frame-relay circuit should be clean when you look up the
above interface s0 specs.


Another way I check retransmissions or errors on my frame-relay links is by
using a Enterprice snmp management software which gives me "Avarage erros"
Avarage Utilization " and so forth, I mostly concern myself with Avarage
erros and or collisions.

Hope this helps

Jorge Rodriguez/CCNA
Network Analyst

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Hi Group,

How can I determine if there is retransmission of packets occuring on my
frame-relay network? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Could not create subinterfaces

2000-06-25 Thread Andrew Larkins

you need to specify either point t point of point to multipoint. Use the ?
at the end of the command for moe information

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Hello,

I tried to create a subinterface on s0 but i could not. Can any body tell me
why?


Thanks
Omer

3102(config)#int s0.1
% Incomplete command.


3102#sh ru
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 11.3
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
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enable secret and password

2000-06-25 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

Dear friends,

May I ask what is the different between enable password and secret?  When we
need to use the enable secret?

Besides, Can any one tell me what is mean by reverse telnet?  Difference
between terminal server and router?

Thank you in advance
Chee Tong




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Re: How far by self study?

2000-06-25 Thread Patrick Murphy

I passed CCNA. CCDA, CCNP and MCSE without ever attending a class. ( Well I
did attend one Microsoft course but they didn;t teach me anything I didn't
already know about NT?)

It's easy to do if you have the time and experience. I have 8 yrs as a
network admin. Working with Cisco, 3Com, Bay etc.

I guess the less experience you have to apply the more study you need to do.

Patrick
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 Hi one and all,
 I am curious to know how many people have got to CCDP/CCNP
 by self study alone. the difficulty of this is a like the length of
string,
 given enouh time most things are possible. Realistically, without
attending
 training courses is it so difficult to get through these exams. I did the
 course for CCNA (really good) but self studied CCDA. This i reckon took me
 aboout a week of solid study but it came across as a "study friendly
topic".
  I am now looking at the CCDP path and the CID first, it looks really
bloody
 difficult! But don't all new topics? So can anybody give advice on the
 reality of CCDP self study?
  thanks
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collision on cut-through switch

2000-06-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Hi Group Study,

I got into a discussion with a knowledgeable Sniffer instructor recently. 
When he teaches cut-through-switching theory, he warns his students that a 
cut-through switch does not really isolate collision domains. Consider this 
example:

* The switch is receiving a frame from port 1 destined for a station out 
port 2.
* The switch recognizes the destination address and starts forwarding the 
frame to port 2 ASAP.
* There is a collision on port 2. (It's a shared and/or half-duplex Ethernet.)

According to the instructor, the Switch sends a jam signal back to port 1 
to let the initial sender know that the frame experienced a collision. This 
allows the sender to retransmit.

If you read some of the books on switching, you would think that this is 
true. The books make it sound like the frame is passing through the switch 
and disappearing out the destination port as soon as the destination 
address is recognized.

I don't think the Sniffer instructor's conclusion is true, however. I 
believe that a Cisco cut-through switch buffers the frame and hence has the 
ability to retransmit. There is no requirement to send a jam to the 
original sender because port 2 in our example retransmits after sensing the 
collision.

I believe that Cisco switches store frames, even when doing cut-through, 
whereas the instructor assumed that the frame has passed through and out 
the port and is no longer available for retransmission by the switch.

Cisco positions cut-through as reducing delay, not reducing the need for 
buffering, so I'm contending that I'm right.

Who do you think is right? Can you point me to any white papers that would 
prove who is right?

Thanks

Priscilla



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RE: ISDN in Germany

2000-06-25 Thread Andrew Larkins

make sure you have configured a default route out. I had a similar problem
and this was resolved by using "ip classless"

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RE: ccna exam(s)

2000-06-25 Thread William E Gragido

Yeah I have a friend who took the beta for it and passed it.  Its good
stuff!  Good luck in your studies

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 There is 1 other exam after the CCNA that I am preparing to take..it is
 called CCNA WAN swichingthe book was just released by Cisco Press.  I
 will be taking that exam next fall.


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 Sincerely,


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  but, oddly, nowhere in this book can I find anything but the
 most general
  informatin on obtaining this certification.  Thanks in advance.
 
 
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Re: show ip eigrp events

2000-06-25 Thread peter . simmons




John,

See the Networkers 99 presentations #315, Advanced IP EIGRP -
Troubleshooting, the pdf runs
to around 950Kb, however. See page 29 and 32 for some details.

Here's a link

http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw99_pres/index.htm#advancedipeigrptroubleshooting

Watch the wrap

I've seen this command reset a 7507 when used with IOS 11.3.(7)T, so as you
said, check carefully
before use!

You can always raise a TAC call about it, asking for information on the
output, or ask a question
in the CCO open forum.

Regards

Peter Simmons

/Disclaimer on

All the usual Legal Stuff that means if your house burns down after reading
this, It's NOT my fault, OK!

/Disclaimer off

I just discovered this undocumented command and I'm wondering if anyone
else
knows anything about it, like how to interpret its output.  This looks
like
it might be helpful for troubleshooting purposes, but I found ZERO
references to it on CCO except for in some IOS release notes stating that
there was a bug involving this command that could cause some routers to
crash.  Nothing else about it.  zip...nada.

Some of its output is easy to understand, but it uses a lot of
abbreviations
gets to be cryptic fairly quickly.

Anybody seen this?

Thanks,
John Neiberger, CCNA/CCDA


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RE: Which is right? 'trace' or 'traceroute'

2000-06-25 Thread Brian Lodwick


don't forget tracert
Brian

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:52:13 -0500

   Go to the prompt on a router, type trace and hit the tab
key. does it stay at trace or traceroute?


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   tr ;)

   mh

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Console problem

2000-06-25 Thread BIKEMAN




Hi all

I have two 2nd hand 2501's that are giving me a few 
headaches - when I plug the console cable into the console port I can see the 
output but the routers don't seem to accept any input. The cable and laptop are 
fine since I use the combination on a number of other routers without any 
problems.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Rudi


Console problem

2000-06-25 Thread BIKEMAN



Hi all

I have two 2nd hand 2501's that are giving me a few 
headaches - when I plug the console cable into the console port I can see the 
output but the routers don't seem to accept any input. The cable and laptop are 
fine since I use the combination on a number of other routers without any 
problems.

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Rudi


RE: RJ45 RJ48 difference

2000-06-25 Thread Jean Stockton

RJ-45S:  data:  bridged T/R, 8 position keyed data jack/ds0 ckts.

RJ-48C:  8 position digital services jack//ds1 ckts
RJ-48S:  8 position keyed digital services jack/ds1 ckts
RJ-48X:  8 position digital services jack with shorting bars/ds1 ckts


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 Hi,
 
 What is the difference between an RJ45 connector as used on 10Bt and an
 RJ48
 connector as used on 120R Primary rate?
 
 They both appear to be the same 8 pin idc connector.
 
 Thanks
 
 Peter
 
 
 
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Re: What ever became of GroupStudy ...!

2000-06-25 Thread Roger Navarro


On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Nigel Taylor wrote:

 Groupstudy,
 Let me pose this question again, "What ever became of GroupStudy?".  
The reason I ask is as of lately the post within the group has been more unrelated to 
groupstudy than ever before that I've seen.  Now I only been a member of the 
studygroup for about a year now and I'm sure other's whom have been here as long or 
longer have noticed the difference in the post. At one time it was a joy for me to 
read the various post and be a part of such an awesome sharing/learning experience.  
However, presently I look to the studygroup and all I find is *dumb* questions and 
foolish post that has nothing to do with what I believe is the reason "Paul Borghese" 
started this list-server in the first place. Yep, I'm upset..! Why? Not for the 
reason that the group doesn't still provide a great amount of information, it does 
and I'm happy about that but now I receive 200 messages a day of which 20-30 may have 
some content that give me a reason to continue my loyal fellowship as a!
 list member.  I still hope everyday as I polish through the garbage(unrelated post) 
that has seem to make it's way into this list.
 
 Let me take you back, for those of you who can remember; snip

I'm right behind you Nigel. I've been on the list for a while now and have
witnessed _first hand_ its degradation.

In an attempt to make this a worthwhile post, I include the following tid-bits...

Info about networkers 2000
http://www.ciscoevents.com/home/america.htm

Some help for those of us with Cat. 5000's
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Advisor/advisor.cgi


Roger Navarro

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RE: CertificationZone White Paper (Frame Relay) ???

2000-06-25 Thread Ramesh Nadan

Hi Phil,

It should be bits instead of bytes!!

Rgds,

Ramesh
CCNA

Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hi,
   I don't think my last post got through so I'm
 sending again.

   My previous Question relates to page 3 of this paper
 by David Wolsefer.
   Under the heading of framing formats he refers to an
 8 byte flags field and a 16 byte address field. I'm
 pretty certain this should be bits but don't have any
 reference material with me currently. 16 bytes seems
 rather excessive for a serial connection anyway.
 And a 16 byte FCS ???

 Can anyone confirm ?

 PS: Is the author trying to scare me?

 "Before we get into the heart of frame relay, lets
 take a look at the framing formats"

 After reading the section on the address field I am
 scared. But seriously, I think this section needs a
 better diagram with all the relevant info detailed.

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Re: New Starter

2000-06-25 Thread Natasha

Great sites!!
I would like to add one more to the list.
As a CCNA student I developed an Artificial Intelligence Cisco glossary
called the Ciscobot that includes links to most of the major Cisco
information sites.
You can find it here.
http://www.ciscobot.com

On one other point, I believe the thread was (Many hats).
The way our Cisco Academe worked was to first train us for the A+ then
Ms. server before the CCNA curriculum. It was a lot more work but gave
the students a better understanding of how the whole system inter
reacts.
My end goal is is the CCNP with a Linux background.

Natasha

E-Mail wrote:
 
 Here first
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/index.html
 They have a good course on ccna check it out
 http://www.leapit.com/html/my_leapit_index.html
 The basics from Cisco's mouth is here
 http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/fund/ith/ith01gb.htm#xtocid1668417
 Tons of links
 http://ciscoinanutshell.com/
 Book for ccna 2.0
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0735709718/globalnetworksolA/102-93
 42558-1689740
 The e-trainer (vertual routers  switch too)
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0782127282/globalnetworksolA/102-93
 42558-1689740
 Some one posted this fun for the OSI
 http://www.decodes.com/solitaire/solitaire.html
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Brian Fitzpatrick
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 6:33 AM
 To: Cisco Groupstudy
 Subject: New Starter
 
 Hi.
 
 I'm an absolute beginner to Cisco, and I'm looking for some online resources
 that would be good to get the ball rolling for my CCNA. Is there any good
 books that I could buy or any websites that start me with the fundamentals??
 
 Cheers
 Brian


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Re: what does this command do?

2000-06-25 Thread jenny . mcleod



Generally I would agree, but there are some commands that the IOS doco just
doesn't seem to know about.  ElephantChild, did you have a look yourself before
you posted this?  Because I can't see 'restart' in the CCO 12.0 master index -
if you can, please enlighten us with a URL.

(and sorry, I don't know what the command does.  Any hints as to what type of
connection it's talking about?)

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 16/06/2000 17:37
---


ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 15/06/2000 02:54:06

Please respond to ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject:  Re: what does this command do?



On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, cisco cabanaboy wrote:

 yes, I did search on cco, found nothing.

 #?
 Exec commands:
 {snip}
   restart  Restart Connection
 {snip}

To find out what an IOS command does, the best source is the IOS
documentation, whether paper, CDROM, or online. If you don't know which
manual describes a given command, use the 12.0 master index.

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Session Layer

2000-06-25 Thread Zach Stewart

Dale,

Don't forget about NFS it is also a session layer protocol. SQL is a generic
database language for retrieving data from databases. Keep up the studying:)

Zack
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:39:24 CDT, Dale Cantrell wrote:

  Howdy,
  I've got it down as session layer 5. And if that's what Cisco says it 
  is...for exam purposes..that's what it is! :)
  Bye,
  Dale
  
  Original Message Follows
  From: "JZ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: SQL, DNS session layer protocols?
  Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 05:31:00 -0400
  
  A friend of mine asked what is SQL and is it a session layer protocol,
  because one of the popular CCNA test simulation software says it is.
  SQL -- Structured Query Language, a Database programming language, is a
  session layer protocol? or, MS SQL server , a back-end RDMS is a session
  layer protocol?
  DNS -- Domain Name Server (Services). RADCOM's World of Protocols says it
is
  a session layer protocol.
  
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RE: NetWare 5 Pure IP Login Across Subnets

2000-06-25 Thread Vanhise, Gerald

Hello Seth,
 
 This may be what I would consider a fairly obscure
command but I had occasion to use it here a few years back for a similar
scenario.
 
Try "ipx type-20-propagation" on source and/or destination interfaces. This
may do the trick. Keep me posted.
 
 
Jerry VanHise

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NetWare 5 Pure IP Login Across Subnets


We have a Netware 5 server -- IP plus IPX, for our CNE lab work -- whose IP
address is 10.0.0.99 and a client -- IP only -- whose address is
198.56.78.13.  The server's subnet connects to E0 on a 2501 -- address
10.0.0.2.  The client's subnet connects to E0/0 on a 3801 -- address
198.56.78.1.  The 2501 and the 3801 are back-to-back and all machines across
the board can ping cleanly by name or address.

When I move the client to the server's subnet and set its IP to 10.0.0.13,
login works just fine.  So login over IP is okay.  But when it's on
198.56.78.13, the client reports it can't find the tree or server.  But as
noted, it can ping the server by name or address.  So I conclude that the
problem is the broadcast that starts the login process.

I set E0/0 on the 3801 to "ip helper-address 10.0.0.99" and still cannot
login.   From the packets I captured, it looks like the initial broadcast is
NetBIOS Datagram Service, which I thought ought to be forwarded when the IP
helper-address is configured.  I am getting a little out of my depth here if
you haven't noticed.

Can anybody suggest what else I need to do to get the routers to forward
this IP Netware login broadcast?

Thanks,
 
~Seth~

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Dial up usinng Asyn interface

2000-06-25 Thread Tan Choh oon



Hi,

I had 2501 router, 1 Ethernet , 2 Syn port and 1 
Aux port.
I like to coonect the 56k dial up modem to serial 0 
, and configure it to DDR to ISP.
My question is how do i configure the serial 0 ( 
syn interface) to dial out ?

As far as i knew only asyn serial, Aux port and 
syn/async serial is capable to do dial up. 
Can Sync serial port do dial out ?? If can please 
give sample config.

Thanks.

C.K.Tan


Re: Firewalls

2000-06-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Sammi wrote:

   In pursuit of a network position I'm often queried as to my knowledge
   of firewalls. During my Cisco studies I haven't seen much mentioned on
   the subject, though I have deduced (correctly?) that access lists can
   effectively be used as a firewall. What are the leading industry
   firewall applications and how do they interact with Cisco products?
   Realizing perspectives are much different on an enterprise level than
   the home network level, is there much difference in principle between
   firewalls the home user might employ (blackice, @guard, etc.) and that
   used on the larger scale? Any recommendations as to links,
   documentation?

Firewalls and Internet Security (Cheswick and Bellovin - AW?)
Building Internet Firewalls (Chapman and Zwicky? ORA?)
Practical Unix and Internet Security (Spafford and Garfinkel? - ORA?)
The firewalls mailing list (used to be [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Any web page by Marcus J. Ranum

That should keep you busy for a while. :-)

Full agreement with these books, and you have the correct publishers.

Some other random references, some more theoretical than others. 
Network security in general, not just firewalls.

IETF Security Area Advisory Group  http://web.mit.edu/network/ietf/sa/
IETF Working Groups http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/wg-dir.html
 -- navigate to Security Area for subgroups

RFC 1579 Firewall-Friendly FTP. S. Bellovin.

RFC 2647 Benchmarking Terminology for Firewall Performance. D. Newman.

NSA Rainbow Library.  Contains some HEAVY theory, but also lots of 
good information. 
http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/library/rainbow/index.html

International Computer Security Association http://www.icsa.net/
 contains ratings of specific firewall products

Computer Emergency Response Team http://www.cert.org

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NetGun Program

2000-06-25 Thread Luong, David
Title: NetGun Program





Hi Group,


Can you people who took the Globalknowledge's NetGun CCIE prep program tell me how good the program really is? I'll be interested to hear some feedback regarding it...thanks for your time.

David Luong, CCNP,CCNA,Network+,A+,i-Net+
Telecommunications Analyst
Insurance Corporation of B.C.
Vancouver, B.C / CANADA





RE: CertificationZone White Paper (Frame Relay) ???

2000-06-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I don't think any of my posts or replies are going through. ( stop laughing,
you guys! )

The white paper is definitely in error. The frame relay header is 2 BYTES,
16 BITS in length.

I reported the error to certification zone when I spotted it. So far they
have not corrected it.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phil
Barker
Sent:   Monday, June 12, 2000 7:19 AM
To: cisco GroupStudy
Subject:CertificationZone White Paper (Frame Relay) ???

Hi,
  I don't think my last post got through so I'm
sending again.

  My previous Question relates to page 3 of this paper
by David Wolsefer.
  Under the heading of framing formats he refers to an
8 byte flags field and a 16 byte address field. I'm
pretty certain this should be bits but don't have any
reference material with me currently. 16 bytes seems
rather excessive for a serial connection anyway.
And a 16 byte FCS ???

Can anyone confirm ?

PS: Is the author trying to scare me?

"Before we get into the heart of frame relay, lets
take a look at the framing formats"

After reading the section on the address field I am
scared. But seriously, I think this section needs a
better diagram with all the relevant info detailed.

Cheers,

Phil.




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CISCO 2500 Memory Upgrade

2000-06-25 Thread Zach Stewart

Kevin,


Is this what you saw when you issued the sh ver...

cisco 2510 (68030) processor (revision E) with 16384K/2048K bytes of
memory.---

Because that doesn't display the amount of flash in the router.
R2510#sh flash

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   8108960  c2500-js-l_112-17.bin
[8109024 bytes used, 279584 available, 8388608 total]
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)--- 8 megs of flash

If you want to verify if the chip is either AMD or INTEL issue a 
show flash all:

8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

   ChipBankCode  Size  Name
1  1   01AD  2048KBAMD   29F016
2  1   01AD  2048KBAMD   29F016
3  1   01AD  2048KBAMD   29F016
4  1   01AD  2048KBAMD   29F016
Executing current image from System flash
R2510#

This is important if you're trying to upgrade your router to 16 meg of flash
because you can't mix a AMD chip with INTEL they must be the same type. Hope
this helps.

Zack

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:08:04 +0800, Kevin Lew wrote:

  Hello there,
  I remembered asking about the type of compatible SIMM RAM that could be
use
  in a 2500 series routers.
  
  For some odd reasons, when I upgraded the router to an 8MB SIMM Parity
RAM
  but it only gives me 2MB detected. Is this possible? (using 'show
version')
  
  Could it be the SIMM RAM?
  
  I'm actually trying to do is to upgrade the IOS from a 10.3 to a 12.0.
  
  Thanks in advance,
  Kevin Lew
  
  
  
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DHCP problem

2000-06-25 Thread Scott Meyer

I'm having an interesting DHCP problem that I would like to hear if anyone
has encountered before.

I have a 3640 with IP/IPX/Plus 12.0.7T feature set on. I need to use the T
track because I have a Fast ethernet channelized T1 module. A Novell 4.2
DHCP server is on this side.

I have a 1750 with 12.0.5 (XK train I think) IP/IPX/Plus feature set.
Windows 95 clients with Novell Netware Client (ver 3.2 some with updates and
some without) are on this side.

If I turn routing off, and only bridge, the clients can get a DHCP address
from the server. If I try to route IP and IPX (or IP only for that matter),
the clients can log onto the Novell server (IPX is required for login, not
IP) but dont get a DHCP address.

I know the ip helper is configured correctly, I tried forwarding to both the
server itself and to the subnet. BOOTP is forwarded by default, although I
did try entering ip forward protocol as well.

When the client tries to renew the address with winipcfg.exe, they get an
access denied message. I think this is the key, but I have never seen a
access denied message on Win9x. When the routers are bridging, the clients
can renew with out the access denied message.

I have confirmed that the DHCP server is getting the request and sending a
response with a sniffer. When I debug ip udp on the 1750, I see the both the
request and the response from the DHCP server, and I see a packet going from
the ethernet interface on the router to the DHCP client address, but there
is no ACK or accept message coming from the client.

Has anyone seen this before? I have tried 3 different software images
(12.0.4T ip/ipx/plus, 12.0.7T ip/ipx/plus, and 12.0.7T ip/ipx) with the same
results.

I appreciate any ideas that people would send my way

Scott Meyer
CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, etc
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Re: ip and subnet

2000-06-25 Thread Raymond Everson (Rainman)

Let me have a whack at this (somewhat ambiguous) scenario
10.150.25.25/16 tries to ping 10.150.100.25/24 (assuming we're
traversing a router, right?)

10.150.25.25/16 is trying to ping an address in his same network and the
interface has no reason to believe that 10.150.100.25 is NOT in his own
broadcast domain or in his own subnet and therefore has no reason
to attempt to arp elsewhere for the owner of an address he thinks he
owns.

How'd I do?
Rainman

Joe Pinkus wrote:

 No this will not work,  tell us what will happen when a user on floor 1, let's
 say his ip address is 10.150.25.25/16 tries to ping a user on floor 2 whose ip
 address is 10.150.100.25/24.  The ping will fail, but you need to know why in
 order to understand why this ip scheme will not work.  By the way, if you are
 using a private address, why are you choosing an addressing scheme like this
 anyway.

 Joe

 SH Wesson wrote:

  If on one floor I use 10.150.0.0 255.255.0.0 and on the remaining 2 floors I
  use 10.150.100.0 255.255.255.0 and 10..150.102.0 255.255.255.0, will this
  work in terms of all three networks being able to communicate with each
  other.  Will there be any problems, etc.  Can someone help me reason this
  out.  Thanks.
  
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RE: Need for two hats?

2000-06-25 Thread Jarrett Hinds

It really depends.  Do you want to be a Jack of all trades kinda guy or a
Hammer in a specfic area?  I think it's extremely tough to realisitcally
become a hammer in more than one specific area, although I have run into
some pretty impressive people that have pulled that off, as a trade-off,
they live, breath, and eat this stuff.  That kinda gets back into a quality
of life thing, but that's a whole other discussion :)


-Jarrett

-Original Message-
From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:11 PM
To: Cisco
Subject: Need for two hats?


As I finish my Solaris certification (and continue on with CCNP), I still
wonder if there is really a need for the two skill sets (at once).

I want to work in and with a Cisco world so I wonder if having and
maintaining the two certifications (as opposed to just maintaining and
growing one) is "worth" it.  It helps in salary, yes, but also take a lot of
time and effort.

Any thoughts or more specifically, any real-world examples on how the two
combined are being used?

Thanks,

Rob Montgomery CCNA MCP
IA Systems Analyst
Sytex, Inc./ Naval Special Warfare Command

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Re: Is this true?-No

2000-06-25 Thread Brian Lodwick

You must have overlooked the section on the Cisco web page that notes to 
achieve CCNP you must have passed the CCNA. If they didn't pass CCNA then 
they would not be considered CCNP.
Brian

From: "Kevin S. Mahler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Kevin S. Mahler" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is this true?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:58:38 -0400

What am I missing?  Why do you have 5 guys who have to take the
CCNA?  The three CCNP's had to pass the CCNA to get a CCNP.
That only leaves two, the CCIE who shouldn't really care if he has to
take it and the MCSE+I.



 
  We have five very competent folks maintaining and expanding a
  client's network.  A CCIE, two CCNPs, an MCSE + CCNP, and a
  MCSE+I.  Last month, the client's "technical" rep tells me my
  folks need certifications in MS LAN Manager.  I explained that LAN
  Manager cert was retired long ago and superceded by MCSE.
  Went to MS web site.  Called the MS rep.  Client Tech Rep is
  suspicious, but goes away.
 
  Last week, he came back.  Said everyone needs CCNA.  I explained
  CCIE and CCNP are above CCNA and subsume CCNA content.  Went to
  Cisco web site.  Called Cisco rep.  Client says requirement stays.
  So I have 5 guys who get to take the CCNA.  (SIGH).
 

-
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Systems Engineer, Cisco Systems
Atlanta, GA
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RE: Cisco Internetworking with Microsoft

2000-06-25 Thread Olden Pieterse

I think you have hammered the nail on the head with your assumption.
Trust relatioships !
You have  a   domain A--- domain B   scenario on the one hand and a
single domA domB
-- 
on the other hand .
Check it out .
You can ping all across the show cant you ?
Your DHCP  wins work ok ?
Check whats different between your two domain PDC's 

Good luck
Olden
-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 9:40 PM
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Subject: Cisco Internetworking with Microsoft




 This is a little network problem, but I can not make it work.
 There are two different subnets, each one with a cisco router running
only
IP. Between them, there is a point to point serial connection. The IP
connectivity between the two networks is OK.
 In each network, there is a NT server (each one with a different domain
name), some NT workstations, and Win95/98 wkts..
 In each network, the NT server is configured with WINS service and
local
DHCP service.
 In one network, the users are working in a Domain, and in the other
network, users are working only in a Workgroup (without login in the
Domain).
From the first network (users in Domain), I can not browse the workstation
of
the other side. From the second network (users in a Workgroup), I can browse
the
workstations of the other site using the Network Neighborhood..
 I want to enable all the PCs (from both networks) to browse all the PCs
from both networks (using the Network Neighborhood) without changing too
much my
topology (ie. estabilishing domain trust relationships).. Does anyone have
an
ideia about this problem?

Tks and best rgds.


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Re: How do I switch async to sync on a C1005?

2000-06-25 Thread SteveS

Brad,

I have done this countless times and ways. even to the point of removing my
flash card and rebooting. I did find that without a flash card there was no
WAN port.

My Flash card says ip/async on it, so I am wondering if that might be the
problem. Both C1005's while differing in IOS versions, say that.

I thought that I saw one time in boot up an option for "in use" of that
port, and that it gave me the choice between async and sync. But for the
life I me I cannot seem to get to that point.

I see no option for this in any of the docs, and setup just says serial0
setup info for sync and for async, but not saying how one gets one or the
other.

I am at my wits end. Both versions of my IOS for flashing end with a T or
T1.

Any more ideas would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve

""Brad Ellis"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I thought the serial ports usually default to sync on a 1005...I could be
 wrong.  Try erasing the config, and rebooting the router.  ie:

 write erase
 reload
 n

 -brad
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  I need to have a serial port on my Cisco C1005 for CCNA programming. I
 have
  a crossover DCE/DTE cable.
 
  My "serial" port always comes up as async 1. How can or where do I
change
  this.
 
  I cannot find this in the docs, and the docs make mention of both, but
not
  how to change it.
 
  Thanks, Steve
 
 
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RE: Need for two hats?

2000-06-25 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor

See..those are programs that I have not had the pleasure of working with
yet.  Firewalls thus far are the Pix and that's it.  My think right now is
LAN v WAN, so it helps to get a granular view.  Thanks!

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need for two hats?


Solaris and Cisco, eh?

Hmmm... Cisco Works? Openview? Shell or Perl scripts to update router 
configs? Unix based Firewall before/after the router(s)? Many many other 
thoughts...

The more you know, the more you can do. Certification is proof of what you 
know (in a way...) to *potential* employers, helping you to get paid for 
that knowledge.

Time and effort? Hey, life is work pal! You get what you play for...

Dale
[=`)


From: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need for two hats?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:10:37 -0700

As I finish my Solaris certification (and continue on with CCNP), I still
wonder if there is really a need for the two skill sets (at once).

I want to work in and with a Cisco world so I wonder if having and
maintaining the two certifications (as opposed to just maintaining and
growing one) is "worth" it.  It helps in salary, yes, but also take a lot 
of
time and effort.

Any thoughts or more specifically, any real-world examples on how the two
combined are being used?

Thanks,

Rob Montgomery CCNA MCP
IA Systems Analyst
Sytex, Inc./ Naval Special Warfare Command

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RE: Diff between point to point T1 and T1 with framerelay

2000-06-25 Thread Feliz, Edgar

John,

If you order a T1 from A provider that is 1536 Mbs you get that bandwidth
all to yourself you DO NOT have to SHARE it with anyone. It is as if you,
and the other side of the connection had a long cable between the two sites,
and only those two site could used that cable. All of the data you transmit
under normal circumstance (no errors) will get through. This comes at a
price.

Frame-Relay on the other hand is shared bandwidth. Yes! the provider will
under normal conditions guarantee the bandwidth that you request (CIR =
Committed Information Rate), say 256k, 512k etc. You will even be able to
burst for a certain period of time if there is bandwidth available to your
port speed. But if the network becomes congested some of your packets will
not get to their destination because they could have met a condition (DE +
Discard eligible) set in the core network, or by the subscriber, that
required them to be dropped under certain circumstances, like high network
congestion,(This varies as some carriers will not drop packets, but there
may be longer delays). When I say that it is shared bandwidth I say this
because in fact you are sharing the bandwidth in the Core Network of your
provider with hundreds of other subscribers to the service.

Hope this helps,

EF

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:15 PM
To: CiscoGroupstudy
Subject: Diff between point to point T1 and T1 with framerelay


Can some clearly explain the difference, I have
checked the Archives and not found a good explanation.
Also if you have some sample configs, that would be a
great help to me.
Thank you.

=
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Re: In and Out of band management - what is the diff?

2000-06-25 Thread Jay Hennigan

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Emmanuel Solomon wrote:

 I am still not clear on that. What are the pros/cons on using one against the
 other? And isn't that happening over the console port?

With in-band management if the means to manage the box is over the same
channel as the item that you are managing, then you have a problem if that
link goes down.  

Say you have a router in a remote area, and the only access you have to 
it is telnet over the serial link.  Suddenly the router becomes unreachable.

Is the power down?
Is there carrier on the line?
Has someone changed an IP address?
Is it a memory failure?
Is the PVC misconfigured or deleted in the frame cloud?
Is it a DoS attack and the CPU is at 100%?

You have no way of knowing.  That's in-band management.  The management is
done over the same link (bandwidth) as the item being managed.

Now, what if you had a modem connected to that router's console port 
and a phone line.  You dial up that phone line and connect to the router's
console port.  Now you can see the interface status, error logs, CPU, etc.

Even if you can't get in, you have some hints.

If the modem doesn't answer it's likely a power problem.

If the modem answers and connects but nothing responds, the power is
OK but the router is wedged or failed hard.  

That's out-of-band management.  Your ability to manage the router is 
over a different path than the one you're managing.

It can mean the difference between sitting on the patio sipping a cool one
waiting for the phone company to call you back and driving a hundred miles 
with a laptop.  

Network administration is the only job I know where you can get paid, and
paid very well, for spending most of your time cussing out various telephone 
companies.

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RE: L3 switch that support Gigabit Ethernet

2000-06-25 Thread Dadan, Nadeem

i do agree with this . if you are lokking for more gig ports than , 6xxx
with MSFC is the one you should look at.

-NAD

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Subject: Re: L3 switch that support Gigabit Ethernet



""BB"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Anyway, recommandation?
 Cisco 7500 router and Catalyst 5000/6000 series seems not suitable, as it
as
 very slow backplane
 and $$/gigabit channel are very expensive.
 i think it's because it is not designed for gigabit switiching

 Anyway, I've checked Cat. 4000, it seems oko.
 But, are there any other suggestions?

First off, why L3? Do you need to route gigabit, or are you just looking for
switching? If you need to route, the Cat 4K is not going to be what you
need. For inexpensive gig routing, I'd recommend a 2948G-L3 if 2 gig ports
will be enough. If you need to route more than 2 gig ports, you're going to
have to cough up some real dough- a Cat 6xxx with MSFC is probably going to
be what you wind up with in that case, or a 12000 if you really need lots of
routed gigabit.

If you just need switched gig, get a 3508 or a 4912.

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Re: collision on cut-through switch

2000-06-25 Thread John Nemeth

On Nov 9,  8:23am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
} 
} I got into a discussion with a knowledgeable Sniffer instructor recently. 
} When he teaches cut-through-switching theory, he warns his students that a 
} cut-through switch does not really isolate collision domains. Consider this 
} example:
} 
} * The switch is receiving a frame from port 1 destined for a station out 
} port 2.
} * The switch recognizes the destination address and starts forwarding the 
} frame to port 2 ASAP.
} * There is a collision on port 2. (It's a shared and/or half-duplex Ethernet.)
} 
} According to the instructor, the Switch sends a jam signal back to port 1 
} to let the initial sender know that the frame experienced a collision. This 
} allows the sender to retransmit.

 I would be really surprised if it worked this way.  If it did,
then you logically you would have an overpriced hub, not a switch and
there would be no point in using a switch (ignoring the fact that a
switch can extend the radius of the network).  This simply doesn't make
sense.  Also, with full-duplex ethernet, there would be no way to send
back a jam signal, so the only option would be to just drop the
packet.  Personally, if I paid good money for a switch and it behaved
in the described manner, I would be quite perturbed.

} I don't think the Sniffer instructor's conclusion is true, however. I 
} believe that a Cisco cut-through switch buffers the frame and hence has the 
} ability to retransmit. There is no requirement to send a jam to the 
} original sender because port 2 in our example retransmits after sensing the 
} collision.

 Personally, I would expect that the frame would simply be buffered
and not transmitted if the destination port is busy, so that no
collision occurs.  That is, after all, the whole purpose of having a
switch in the first place.

} Who do you think is right? Can you point me to any white papers that would 
} prove who is right?

 Given the equipment needed to teach a sniffing class, I would expect
that you and/or the other instructor could easily setup an experiment to
test the theory.  I would be interested in the results, but don't have an
easy way to test it at the moment.

}-- End of excerpt from Priscilla Oppenheimer

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[Fwd: RE: Microsoft 'Routers']

2000-06-25 Thread David

forwarded from out small thread.

david


 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Microsoft 'Routers'
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:52:47 -0700
From: "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: "Marlon Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In my dreams I see a world wide network of hassle free devices. Plug it
in,
it self configures, and life is good.

Won't happen in my lifetime. Folks under 30 may see the beginnings of it
in
their lifetimes.

Those hassle free protocols will not be ospf, I'm pretty sure :-

Microsoft has run IP forwarding for quite some time in the NT boxes.
That
was RIP. I am guessing that Microsoft just wanted to provide an easy way
to
expand a network by adding a second segment. Anything built around NT is
a
hack, in my opinion. With all the issues about the ease of compromise of
NT
boxes ( let alone unix or linux boxes ) I would not want to place
anything
but a real router in a critical position in my network.

Just my opinion.

Chuck

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To: Chuck Larrieu
Cc: Marlon Brown
Subject:Re: Microsoft 'Routers'

I would bet that it doesn't as well, but then again, all previous
releases of Windows didn't have any Microsoft developeed product in the
OS that performed routing protocols right?  Has anyone yet looked at the
OSPF implementation in Win2000?  Is it at all Microsoft-ized for the
average admin so they can design OSPF networks "hassle-free"?



Chuck Larrieu wrote:

 I took this reply off the group.

 The question remains - who ya gonna call?  I kinda doubt that the MCSE -
 2000 or otherwise - demands much in the way of routing knowledge.

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 From:   Marlon Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:RE: Microsoft 'Routers'

 I disagree with you regarding the support issue. They
 could call the MCSE 2000 people :-)


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Re: Is this true?

2000-06-25 Thread Kevin Wigle

and if your CCNPs couldn't tell you that..

Kevin Wigle
CCNP, CCDA, MCSE..

- Original Message - 
From: "ElephantChild" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "David R. Lease" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "David C Prall" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 15 June, 2000 13:41
Subject: Re: Is this true?


 On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, David R. Lease wrote:
 
  Last week, he came back.  Said everyone needs CCNA.  I explained
  CCIE and CCNP are above CCNA and subsume CCNA content.
 
 CCNP doesn't just subsume CCNA, it *requires* it. So your 3 CCNPs should
 already be CCNAs, and that should show in their certification history.
 Doesn't help your CCIE and your MCSE+I, though.
 
  Went to
  Cisco web site.  Called Cisco rep.  Client says requirement stays.
  So I have 5 guys who get to take the CCNA.  (SIGH).
  
  At least I got the client to pay for the exam, time off the job,
  and time and one half for the guys filling in during exams.
  
  The moral of the story?  There isn't one.  This week the client's
  tech rep. wanted everyone to have -- are you ready --??
  
  Microsoft Certified Novell Engineer cert.  I told him to sign us
  all up and tell us the date, time, and location for the exam.  Oh
  yeah, the network is NT and NFS -- so the Novell stuff will REALLY
  come in handy.
 
 Time to newgroup alt.cisco.recovery?
 
 -- 
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Re: How far by self study?

2000-06-25 Thread Kevin Wigle

I just completed my CCNP all through self study.

Since I have the CCDA that means I'm only the CID away from CCDP.

I'm also self studying that.  I plan to write maybe end next week.

It is doable.  I don't know why you'd want to do CID first, like CIT - it is
not the easiest of the many exams.  But CID doesn't really build on the
previous exams like CIT does either.

If you just completed the CCDA recently and you're still in the "design
thinking" mode then perhaps the CID is not too far a reach.

I did the CMTD, CLSC, ACRC and Foundation 2.0 all on self study in the last
10 weeks.  Very intensive reading and play in my lab.  Mucho support from my
wife when I disappeared into my study.

Kevin Wigle
CCNP, CCDA 

- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Duggan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 22 June, 2000 07:28
Subject: How far by self study?


 Hi one and all,
 I am curious to know how many people have got to CCDP/CCNP
 by self study alone. the difficulty of this is a like the length of
string,
 given enouh time most things are possible. Realistically, without
attending
 training courses is it so difficult to get through these exams. I did the
 course for CCNA (really good) but self studied CCDA. This i reckon took me
 aboout a week of solid study but it came across as a "study friendly
topic".
  I am now looking at the CCDP path and the CID first, it looks really
bloody
 difficult! But don't all new topics? So can anybody give advice on the
 reality of CCDP self study?
  thanks
  Pat Duggan ccna ccda mcse blah blah

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Re: Did you just say CCNA two point oh?

2000-06-25 Thread Michael Marshalek

Hold on a sec, Am I just finding out that CCNA is retiring?  I thought
CCNP exams was the only exams retiring.  So now, Is it worth upgrading to
CCNA 2.0 because I about to go for my CCIE in a month or so.  If I do take
it, Does cisco offer a discount? (I guess if I knew about it earlier I
would have jumped on the Beta version bandwagon.)  I'm figuring I would
lose my title if I don't recertifed or would I be place on hold.

Thanks

Michael Marshalek
Lucent Technologies
Data Networking 
cell 973-417-1377
home 973-927-3097

On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, DC wrote:

 I'm in the same boat (with CCNA 1.0 material).  I have decided to take CCNA
 1.0 (next week)
 and then pursue CCNP 2.0.  Either CCNA 1.0 or 2.0 with satisfy CCNP 2.0's
 requirement:
 
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht
 ml
 
 Good Luck.
 
 DC
 
 ""Max N. Fritzergald"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I bought ICRC and Lammle's CCNA last year, but never quite found the time
 to
  read it until now.  Just when I was eager to read and take the exam this
  summer, I found out about CCNA 2.0 and that CCNA 1.0 exam was expiring on
  July 31st.
 
  Let's see, would I be qualified to take the CCNP 2.0 exams, after CCNA
 1.0?
  or would I have to start new and take CCNA 2.0 anyways?  Would it be
  advisable to take the 1.0 or 2.0 exam at THIS very point?
 
  And Microsoft wants me to take the Win2K accelerated exam by the end of
 this
  year.  Pressure Pressure.
 
  Max
 
 
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RE: RJ45 RJ48 difference

2000-06-25 Thread Stoops, Mark

Peter,

Here's the long and the short of it.

Ethernet 10BASE-T will in fact not function through either of the jack
configurations you ask about.

An RJ45 jack was used by the phone companies for the delivery of data
services before adjustable interface devices (from a signal level
perspective) were available.  An RJ45 outlet delivers a 2 wire data service
to pins 5 and 4 (Tip and Ring) and has a programmable resistor across pins 7
and 8 that was used for adjusting the signal level delivered to the
customer.

An RJ48 jack used to be used on the customer demarcation jack for DS1
circuits.  This jack delivered the DS1 Transmit signal to pins 2 and 1 (Tip
and Ring) and the receive signal to pins 7 and 8 (Tip 1 Ring 1).  An RJ48S
jack also has a hard loop connection built in that routes the transmit
signal to the receive pairs when the line cord is removed.

Ethernet 10BASE-T uses pins 1 and 2 to transmit and pins 3 and 6 to receive.
In today's environment of structured cabling systems the standard jack
configurations for data cabling are referred to as T568A and T568B.  These
jack configurations have all four pairs of the UTP cabling terminated as
follows:

T568A

Pin 1 Pair 3 Tip
Pin 2 Pair 3 Ring
Pin 3 Pair 2 Tip
Pin 4 Pair 1 Ring
Pin 5 Pair 1 Tip
Pin 6 Pair 2 Ring
Pin 7 Pair 4 Tip
Pin 8 Pair 4 Ring

T568B

Pin 1 Pair 2 Tip
Pin 2 Pair 2 Ring
Pin 3 Pair 3 Tip
Pin 4 Pair 1 Ring
Pin 5 Pair 1 Tip
Pin 6 Pair 3 Ring
Pin 7 Pair 4 Tip
Pin 8 Pair 4 Ring

The term "RJ45" is used way too much in this industry in my opinion.  One
can still purchase "RJ45" jacks and there is always the chance you could
wind up getting what you ask for.

Hope this was helpful.

Thanks,

Mark D. Stoops, RCDD



 -Original Message-
From:   peter whittle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 20, 2000 13:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RJ45  RJ48 difference

Hi,

What is the difference between an RJ45 connector as used on 10Bt and an
RJ48
connector as used on 120R Primary rate?

They both appear to be the same 8 pin idc connector.

Thanks

Peter



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RE: Token ring question

2000-06-25 Thread Andrew Lennon

knackered media/mau, both router say the naum is shot. try new ports on the
mau, check for good connections etc.

Andy


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
m. jean stockton
Sent: 10 June 2000 13:07
To: Matt Shell; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Token ring question


I am very new at this but I do not see your 'no shut' command.

Makeeda

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Matt Shell
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Token ring question


I have two 2502s plugged into an IBM 8228 MSAU in a lab.  They are connected
with a 9 pin to Type 1 cable.  For some reason, I can't get the line to come
up.  When I do "show interface", I see the TokenRing0 as "initializing" and
"down".  I wait a second and it goes to "down" / "down", then back to
"initialize" / "down".  I admit, I don't know much about Token Ring, but
this should be fairly straight forward, right?

On each router config I have:

RouterA:
!
interface TokenRing0
 ip address 192.168.30.1 255.255.255.0
 ring-speed 16
!

RouterB:
!
interface TokenRing0
 ip address 192.168.30.2 255.255.255.0
 ring-speed 16
!

When I do "debug token events" I get this output on both routers:
%TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys. Insertion, ring beaconing
%TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong idb state - state= 0
TR0: reset from 30559AE
TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x146EF494, qt: 0 (0ms)
starting.

Any ideas?  Thanks in advance for the help!
Matt


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problem , terminal servers being hung

2000-06-25 Thread Tom Pruneau

Greetings All

I currently have a ticket open with the cisco TAC on this , but it's been
open for over a week and they are just scratching their heads (or virtually
scratching their heads).

I have a lab environment. There are a number of routers in the lab, most
2500 series but also a couple of 4000s. The routers console ports are all
connected to terminal servers (two of them with the routers in the
equipment racks). These terminal servers are then on a network. There is
also a classroom with a mix of dumb terminals and PCs running terminal
emulators (hyperterminal). The dumb terminals and OCs are tied into a third
terminal server which is in the classroom. Students go from ther classroom
terminal server into the lab one and connect to the routers.

The problem is is that when they disconnect (using cntrl-shft-6 x) the
lines on the router end tend to stay busy. I can log into the lab terminalk
servers (either of them) and see that even though the student has
disconnected the line is still busy.

I can clear the lines (clear line #) or clear disconnect the session (disco
#) but the line just comes busy again. The only way to clear it is to
reboot the router. 

The intent was fro students to be able to access the console ports of many
different routers. It seems line when twe break the cxonnection on the lab
terminal server that the router is still trying to talk to it so it busies
the line ansd there is then no way to get in (other than a reboot).

I can't believe the terminal servers are supposed to work like this (which
is what the TAC is implying). You should be able to log into a router; log
out; then have someone different log in.

Isn't that the whole point of a terminal server?

I have swapped cables and terminals servers so I know that that is not the
problem.

Any Ideas?
Tom Pruneau 
Trainer Network Operations
GENUITY
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RE: Frame Relay switch

2000-06-25 Thread Cate, Constance

The "DCE" that is referenced in setting up a router to use as a frame relay
switch is different than the physical layer DCE reference that requires that
a clock rate be defined.
Connie

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; M Z
Cc: Bryant Andrews
Subject: Re: Frame Relay switch


Taking into account that the router you have does meet all the requirements
for a FR switch all that is really needed is the command;

Frame_switch(config)#frame-relay switching

since your frame switch is normally considered the DCE you'll also want to
enable you clock rate on the connecting serial interfaces. As well you could
use the following  interface commands.

Frame_switch(config-if)#encapsulation frame-relay
Frame_switch(config-if)#clock rate 64000
Frame_switch(config-if)#frame-relay intf-type dce

these are some of you basic commands for the frame switch.

My $0.02

HTH

Nigel
- Original Message -
From: M Z [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 4:14 AM
Subject: Frame Relay switch


 Would anyone kindly share how to config a Cisco router to act as a FR
 switch.

 Thanks in advance.

 Mz

 
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Re: Did you just say CCNA two point oh?

2000-06-25 Thread Michael Marshalek

Hold on a sec, Am I just finding out that CCNA is retiring?  I thought
CCNP exams was the only exams retiring.  So now, Is it worth upgrading to
CCNA 2.0 because I about to go for my CCIE in a month or so.  If I do take
it, Does cisco offer a discount? (I guess if I knew about it earlier I
would have jumped on the Beta version bandwagon.)  I'm figuring I would
lose my title if I don't recertifed or would I be place on hold.

Thanks

Michael Marshalek
Lucent Technologies
Data Networking 
cell 973-417-1377
home 973-927-3097

On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, DC wrote:

 I'm in the same boat (with CCNA 1.0 material).  I have decided to take CCNA
 1.0 (next week)
 and then pursue CCNP 2.0.  Either CCNA 1.0 or 2.0 with satisfy CCNP 2.0's
 requirement:
 
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht
 ml
 
 Good Luck.
 
 DC
 
 ""Max N. Fritzergald"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I bought ICRC and Lammle's CCNA last year, but never quite found the time
 to
  read it until now.  Just when I was eager to read and take the exam this
  summer, I found out about CCNA 2.0 and that CCNA 1.0 exam was expiring on
  July 31st.
 
  Let's see, would I be qualified to take the CCNP 2.0 exams, after CCNA
 1.0?
  or would I have to start new and take CCNA 2.0 anyways?  Would it be
  advisable to take the 1.0 or 2.0 exam at THIS very point?
 
  And Microsoft wants me to take the Win2K accelerated exam by the end of
 this
  year.  Pressure Pressure.
 
  Max
 
 
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Cost of routing

2000-06-25 Thread Dick Silva

I've been reading the responses on "COST OF ROUTE SELECTION".

Would it be correct to presume that the cost you are referring to is in
time?




-Original Message-
From: James Xie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: OSPF !!!



Cost does affect route selection. OSPF injects routes to routing
table based on costs. If there are multiple paths to a destionation,
the least cost path will be selected.

Pirority only affects desinated router election. Desinated router is the
router speaks for the multicaccess network about the attached network
links.  Priority has nonthing to do with route selection.

Jim Xie.

At 10:05 AM 06/14/2000 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone!

I have a bit of confusion with how to route selection occurs in OSPF by
icluding the following commands Please shade some light on this

Ok here comes

does cost and priority affects route selection ??

1. router ospf 3
 network 158.13.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
 default-information originate
 default-metric 1
 distance 85
 ip ospf cost 10
 ip ospf priority 4


2 router ospf 3
  network 158.13.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
 default-information originate
 default-metric 1
 distance 85
 ip ospf cost 20
 ip ospf priority 5

Thanks,
Elias


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RE: 804 ios upgrade

2000-06-25 Thread Steve Kalman

Brad and others,

Yes, I know that, and I'm willing to pay the fee. I just don't have anyone
to contact to place the order, or to make sure that I have the order
correct.

Can anyone help?

Steve

PS Sorry for the long delay between your response and this message.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad
Ellis
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 2:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 804 ios upgrade

Steve,

Hi!  You need to purchase the firewall feature set...you may also need to
increase your memory (flash/DRAM).

-Brad
""Steve Kalman"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi folks,

 I bought my 804 about a year ago when Cisco was offering the special deal
 that so many of us accepted.  I'm now more interested in security than I
 once was, and would like to upgrade the IOS to include the firewall
feature
 set.

 I currently have this:


 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) C800 Software (C800-G3-MW), Version 12.0(1)XB1,  RELEASE SOFTWARE
 (fc1)
 TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
 Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Wed 30-Dec-98 13:34 by ayeh


 And would like to acquire 12.0(4)T, which I understand has the FFS

 I sent an email to customer service but they forwarded it to the TAC. I
 don't have a TAC account.

 Can anyone advise me as to how I can go about upgrading? If there are any
 distributors on the list who would be interested in helping me out, I'd
 welcome a private email.


 Steve


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hardware needs for ccna prep

2000-06-25 Thread Daniel Luke



I'm trying to find out info on what I will need in 
the way of hardware for preparing for one, and preferably more of Cisco's 
certifications starting with the CCNA. Is more than one router needed or 
recommened for simulation and training purposes? What should be the least 
amount I could expect to spend for the basic equipment needed to get 
started? Could I use the computerI currently have (a Dell Web PC) 
with only usb portsas theinterface/terminal/server?What 
is generally thought ofon-line router practice such as the service offered 
by virtual labs? I realize there are many questions here, but if anyone 
has suggestions on any one thing, I would be very grateful. 
Thanks 


Re: any MRTG document?

2000-06-25 Thread List Admin for Majordomo

Hi,

Please resend.  The list circuit breaker went off blocking all

I am sorry!

Paul

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, ElephantChild wrote:

 On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Chee Tong Sim wrote:
 
  Any document for MTRG Document?
 
 See the list archives URL at the bottom of any message posted to the
 list.
 
  what is mean by this statement
  
  ip address 198.52.4.5 255.255.255 and ip unnumbered
 
 See the cisco documentation at
 
 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/
 113ed_cr/np1_c/
 
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Re: Checkpoint firewall and 3660

2000-06-25 Thread Shaq Patel

Should not be asking questions here regarding your clients!!  Are we all
getting C.R.E.A.M?  whats up with that?



Oz wrote:

 I have to install a 3660  on monday as an end router for  a client

 Anyone have any clues as to what can byte me..
 Also anyone have any idea's on IOS  is 12 safe to use now ?

 For now  it's just
 T1
 3660
 Checkpoint
 switch  ( dunno whats there now )
 later on
 DMZ
 another redundant 3660
 DMZ
 Reason for the 3660  is that multiple T1 coming in later on dunno what time
 frame.
  Oh and just before  you get ready to flame me .
 .I will post monday evening a drawing of the network  and such  and we can
 make it a design study  .
 As the dude in charge of the job is very cool and will let us play  "a
 little "
 Once I have more details I will post then on monday night.

 Oz
 http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm

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Re: hardware needs for ccna prep

2000-06-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Daniel,

Hi!  I've got a great CCNA package right now:

If you want to setup a home lab, I have a CCNA kit available for $1900 + S/H
(I can take Visa/MC/Amex)

it includes
(2) routers w/ 16MB DRAM and 8MB Flash
(cisco 2501/2502)
(1) Token Ring Media Filter
(1) Token Ring Mau
(1) Ethernet Transceiver
(1) Ethernet Crossover Cable
(1) Ethernet Patch Cable
(1) Serial crossover cable (DB60-DB60)
(1) Console Cable Kit
(1) DOCS CD
(1) IOS  Study materials CD

If you are interested and you live in the continental US, your total will be
$1950 (including S/H costs).

Let me know if you have any questions.

ttyl,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
www.optsys.net
""Daniel Luke"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
002001bfd95f$6b332e20$e833ffd1@webpc">news:002001bfd95f$6b332e20$e833ffd1@webpc...
I'm trying to find out info on what I will need in the way of hardware for
preparing for  one, and preferably more of Cisco's certifications starting
with the CCNA.  Is more than one router needed or recommened for simulation
and training purposes?  What should be the least amount I could expect to
spend for the basic equipment needed to get started?  Could I use the
computer I currently have (a Dell Web PC) with only usb ports as the
interface/terminal/server?  What is generally thought of on-line router
practice such as the service offered by virtual labs?  I realize there are
many questions here, but if anyone has suggestions on any one thing, I would
be very grateful.  Thanks



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RE: Token ring question

2000-06-25 Thread Frank Z

You might just have a bad MAU. Granted, the 8228 is
passive, so this may not be the case. Have you tried
to plug each of them in one at a time? If they both
fail, get another MAU (Known working). The chance that
you have 2 bad 2503s is slim, unless they came from
the same place. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Frank Zahrt, CCNP CCDA



--- "m. jean stockton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am very new at this but I do not see your 'no
 shut' command.
 
 Makeeda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Matt Shell
 Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 12:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Token ring question
 
 
 I have two 2502s plugged into an IBM 8228 MSAU in a
 lab.  They are connected
 with a 9 pin to Type 1 cable.  For some reason, I
 can't get the line to come
 up.  When I do "show interface", I see the
 TokenRing0 as "initializing" and
 "down".  I wait a second and it goes to "down" /
 "down", then back to
 "initialize" / "down".  I admit, I don't know much
 about Token Ring, but
 this should be fairly straight forward, right?
 
 On each router config I have:
 
 RouterA:
 !
 interface TokenRing0
  ip address 192.168.30.1 255.255.255.0
  ring-speed 16
 !
 
 RouterB:
 !
 interface TokenRing0
  ip address 192.168.30.2 255.255.255.0
  ring-speed 16
 !
 
 When I do "debug token events" I get this output on
 both routers:
 %TR-3-OPENFAIL: Unit 0, open failed: Phys.
 Insertion, ring beaconing
 %TR-3-BADSTART: Unit 0, Start completion and wrong
 idb state - state= 0
 TR0: reset from 30559AE
 TR0: txtmr: 0x0, msclk: 0x146EF494, qt: 0 (0ms)
 starting.
 
 Any ideas?  Thanks in advance for the help!
 Matt
 
 
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Re: HELP!!! Lab setup Problem!

2000-06-25 Thread Kent

Make sure you are using the correct mapping of the
channels.

Check the crossover cable, or just make another one to
exclude cable issue.


Kent
--- "Ken W. Alger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I cannot get my two routers to talk over a CSU/DSU
 connection and cannot
 figure out what I am missing.  I get the notice
 "Serial 0 is up, line
 protocol is down" on both routers.  I am just
 starting out so I would
 appreciate any advice on items to check in
 troubleshooting this setup.
 
 One router connects to a CSU/DSU running at 64K
 connected to another CSU/DSU
 running at 64K.  I can do the loopback tests on the
 CSU/DSUs so I am fairly
 confident that they can communicate, but I could be
 wrong.  I have one unit
 set with internal timing.  Any advice on what
 problems to look for with this
 connection?
 
 IGS Router (IOS 9.1(8))
 serial0 = TCP/IP 197.168.250.1 /24
 
 2505 Router (IOS 10.4)
 serial0 = TCP/IP 197.168.250.254 /24
 
 I have changed the encapsulation from HDLC to x25
 and to PPP to no avail.
 My reasoning for these attempts was that in Lammle's
 book he mentions
 CSU/DSUs in the x25 area and I tried PPP because the
 IS manager at my
 company said that he thought that would do it.  When
 using x25 I used both
 the default settings for window and packet size as
 well as custom ones.
 Neither produced a working solution.
 
 Using PPP encap I do get various results with the
 "lcp state" information on
 the 2505.  It varies from REQSENT to ACKSENT to
 LISTEN, and to the best of
 my knowledge these changes do not happen as a result
 of any other network
 configuration change, i.e. I do a "show int s0" once
 and it will come up
 with "lcp state = REQSENT" and a few minutes latter
 it will come up with
 "lcp state = LISTEN".
 
 I know I am new to this level of networking, but I
 am at a complete loss as
 to what to look for or change.  Any help would be
 VERY much appreciate.
 Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as to this
 group.
 
 Thanks,
 Ken W. Alger
 
 
 
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I'll retire from the KDC Corp.
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Re: ip and subnet

2000-06-25 Thread Joe Pinkus

That is one of the issues.  What SH did not tell us is how many routers are in his
network. Is he planning on using one router, if so, how will this work.  There is no
way to configure these IP subnets he described on one router.

Joe

"Raymond Everson (Rainman)" wrote:

 Let me have a whack at this (somewhat ambiguous) scenario
 10.150.25.25/16 tries to ping 10.150.100.25/24 (assuming we're
 traversing a router, right?)

 10.150.25.25/16 is trying to ping an address in his same network and the
 interface has no reason to believe that 10.150.100.25 is NOT in his own
 broadcast domain or in his own subnet and therefore has no reason
 to attempt to arp elsewhere for the owner of an address he thinks he
 owns.

 How'd I do?
 Rainman

 Joe Pinkus wrote:

  No this will not work,  tell us what will happen when a user on floor 1, let's
  say his ip address is 10.150.25.25/16 tries to ping a user on floor 2 whose ip
  address is 10.150.100.25/24.  The ping will fail, but you need to know why in
  order to understand why this ip scheme will not work.  By the way, if you are
  using a private address, why are you choosing an addressing scheme like this
  anyway.
 
  Joe
 
  SH Wesson wrote:
 
   If on one floor I use 10.150.0.0 255.255.0.0 and on the remaining 2 floors I
   use 10.150.100.0 255.255.255.0 and 10..150.102.0 255.255.255.0, will this
   work in terms of all three networks being able to communicate with each
   other.  Will there be any problems, etc.  Can someone help me reason this
   out.  Thanks.
   
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Re: Did you just say CCNA two point oh?

2000-06-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Michael,

If you're at the level of going for your CCIE, do you honestly care about
your CCNA???

Discount???  This is Cisco we're talking about here...

-Brad
"Michael Marshalek" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hold on a sec, Am I just finding out that CCNA is retiring?  I thought
 CCNP exams was the only exams retiring.  So now, Is it worth upgrading to
 CCNA 2.0 because I about to go for my CCIE in a month or so.  If I do take
 it, Does cisco offer a discount? (I guess if I knew about it earlier I
 would have jumped on the Beta version bandwagon.)  I'm figuring I would
 lose my title if I don't recertifed or would I be place on hold.

 Thanks

 Michael Marshalek
 Lucent Technologies
 Data Networking
 cell 973-417-1377
 home 973-927-3097

 On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, DC wrote:

  I'm in the same boat (with CCNA 1.0 material).  I have decided to take
CCNA
  1.0 (next week)
  and then pursue CCNP 2.0.  Either CCNA 1.0 or 2.0 with satisfy CCNP
2.0's
  requirement:
 
 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.ht
  ml
 
  Good Luck.
 
  DC
 
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  8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8iiqgl$4jo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   I bought ICRC and Lammle's CCNA last year, but never quite found the
time
  to
   read it until now.  Just when I was eager to read and take the exam
this
   summer, I found out about CCNA 2.0 and that CCNA 1.0 exam was expiring
on
   July 31st.
  
   Let's see, would I be qualified to take the CCNP 2.0 exams, after CCNA
  1.0?
   or would I have to start new and take CCNA 2.0 anyways?  Would it be
   advisable to take the 1.0 or 2.0 exam at THIS very point?
  
   And Microsoft wants me to take the Win2K accelerated exam by the end
of
  this
   year.  Pressure Pressure.
  
   Max
  
  
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RE: IPSEC/ VPN query

2000-06-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Hey, G.W. I was a bit curious about your statement regarding PIX to PIX
IPSec tunnels.  Since an IPSec tunnel is generally done from "outside"
interface to "outside" interface on any device, whether it be PIX, router,
dedicated VPN gateway, what are you ( and Cisco TAC ) finding?

Host_Ainside
network-NAT/PIX/IPSec--whatever-IPSec/PIX/NAT-inside
networkhost_B
Data to host_B-nat_applied-IPSec takes
over-IPSec_undone---nat_applied-receives_data

I believe this sequence is correct.

Are you finding the problem is that under the PIX, the nat process
interferes with the ability of the IPSec tunnels to form? Or that for some
reason the destination is never reached? In theory there should be no
problem of course. So are you finding this is just a major bug that Cisco
needs to correct?

I wonder if at this point in time one should stay with the design along the
lines of:

Source-internet-internet_routerVPN_Tunnel_gateway-firewal
ldestination
( ordinary traffic is
||
sent directly to the firewall )

Being somewhat new to this fascinating area of routing, I want to learn all
I can about the pitfalls.

Chuck

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of G.W.
Akin
Sent:   Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: IPSEC/ VPN query

until PIX 5.1.x code is re-released you should stick with terminating
your VPN tunnel on the outside interface of the PIX.  (e-mail me and
I'll have a good sample config by then for you to use if you don't have
one yet...)
there is, however, one caveat... are you NAT'ing your address space?  if
so, you are chasing the wind in trying to set up a PIX-to-PIX IPSec
tunnel, and there is no one yet in the TAC who is able to do it.

GWA

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Foundation 2.0 Beta

2000-06-25 Thread Henrique Issamu Terada



Hi everybody

Well, just arrived at home . I did Foundation 2.0 
Beta today .
It had 232 questions , 180 minutes.
A lot of questions of BGP , OSPF (Routing part ) . 
A little of multicast . NO Appletalk , no IPX .
For BCRAN , a lot of Cisco 700 questions , 
and dial on demand routing , and PPP. A little bit of queue questions 
too.
Refering to Switching, trunk, MLS , 
spantree questions , and a little of switching hardware. No ATM LANE , no 

Catalyst hardware issues.

Regards

Henrique Issamu TeradaCPM Comunicações - 
BrazilCCNA Certified