RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down!
The router sees the packets with its own keepalive sequence numbers so thats why it knows that there is a loopback in place. Atif -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ANIL.YADAV Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 9:44 AM To: Mike Narine Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! I'm doing this loopback test on the back side of interface, its aphysical loop. earlier I thought it could be because of different protocols being used at the other end of the serial link. thanks. On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Mike Narine wrote: How are you connecting? Are the routers back-to-back or are you connecting to a Frame/T1/etc? Make sure your encaps are the same (do a show int s0 to verify). Also, are both ends showing the same stats for the Serial interface. Line Protocol might not be coming up when there's a loop because the command "down-when-looped" might be on... check your running cofig. Good luck. -Mike -Original Message- From: ANIL.YADAV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:23 PM To: Omer Shommo Cc: Cisco Group Study Subject: Re: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! Hi!! everybody I'm facing a starnge problem. Even if I put a physical loop oan the serial interface my protocol doesn't come up it shows me something like this Serial1 is up, line protocol is down (looped) tried varios options but doesn' help. thanks anil On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Omer Shommo wrote: Hello to All, If Serial0 is up, line protocol is down, then what should I check? Give me as many answers as you can. BTW what is the line protocol? is it a network protocol like ip, ipx? or is it the data link layer protocol? Omer ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
well if it's the wrong answer than how does it differ...thanks for letting me know though Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
With wild card masks the 0 bits correspond to an exact match with the corresponding bits in the listed ip address. This is in a way the exact opposite of a subnet mask in which the ones need to be matched and not the zeros. Atif -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun well if it's the wrong answer than how does it differ...thanks for letting me know though Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solution - Encapsulation problems Cisco/Motorola - Frame Relay
Hi there My colleague has solved the problem and I though to let you guys gals know. Cisco-(FR Cloud)-Motorola Every minute or so you'll see an error message on the Motorola ( cdp discovery going out from the Cisco) If everything works ok on both sides (ping both the works ) , but you get encapsulation error messages on the Motorola , then disable cdp on the Cisco side . ( no cdp enable) Thx for everybody's input ! Regards Olden Pieterse MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist Technical Consultant Mobile : +27 82 410 8621 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down!
Did you try changing the cisco cable ? Did you try changing the CSU?DSU ? Did you try the transmit inverse clock either on the csu or on the cisco ? ( Only one at a time should be changed for testing) -Original Message- From: ANIL.YADAV To: Omer Shommo Cc: Cisco Group Study Sent: 7/3/00 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! Hi!! everybody I'm facing a starnge problem. Even if I put a physical loop oan the serial interface my protocol doesn't come up it shows me something like this Serial1 is up, line protocol is down (looped) tried varios options but doesn' help. thanks anil On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Omer Shommo wrote: Hello to All, If Serial0 is up, line protocol is down, then what should I check? Give me as many answers as you can. BTW what is the line protocol? is it a network protocol like ip, ipx? or is it the data link layer protocol? Omer ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP and connecting to diff AS's
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 01:59:55PM -0400, Ms. Maria wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about the ways that you can connect routers to other AS if you are not using BGP? Anybody knows the answer, please reply me. How many "exit points" do you have ? -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 10:16:07AM -0500, Michael L. Williams wrote: I'm signed up to take the CVOICE 2.0 beta exam later this month, and I have a book "Cisco Packetized Voice Data Integration". I will be reading though this, but I was wondering if anyone could tell me of another book that may be a good resource for this exam. You should also have some target praxis in configuring VoIP / VoFR, since the exam asks you to type in commands exactly. -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Auto Install
Hi there I know I've seen this soemwhere ...but you guessed it .. I can remember !! I f anyone can help me I'll appreciate it ! We want to ship a router way out remotely and basically just wants to plug it onto the WAN as default and config it from our end ! Thx in advance !! Cheers Olden Pieterse MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist Technical Consultant Mobile : +27 82 410 8621 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should I read another book??? (4-CCDA)
Designing Cisco Networks by Diane Teare is indeed good! "Neil Loffhagen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, Getting hold of Top Down Network Design is well worth doing. Neil. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Should I read another book??? (4-CCDA) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 21:35:48 EDT Hey Group, I finished reading Lammle's CCDA and allready got one of the Boson tests for CCDA. I registered to write the test on July 31st. This was the earliest I could schedule for the test at that location. Concidering that I have another month to prepare, I was pondering the idea of reading another book...Can't hurt right? ;) I was wondering which one to get? I looked at BN, and found CCDA Cram notes. This one looks good to me cause it only has about 300 pages and I think I could fit that in easily, but I've also seen people comment on the top-down network design book. Is this book more geared towards CCDP? Any help and suggestions would be great. Thanks again group. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna 2.0 online practice tests
Please send the address to me too. I am still debating on CCNA 1 or 2. In comparison, how hard is the CCNA2? "H. Karim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... please send me the site address Jake Brannock wrote: mike, the techmindworks tests look good so far, but nobody i've talked to seems to know how many questions they have in all. it says on their site that the pool grows every day but i'm not sure if that's true for the demos or only for the full version. full version's only 15 bucks and i just signed up for the hell of it this morning. i figure i'd blow the money anyway, why not see what they got. it's supposed to cover the new 640-507 ccna exam and so far i'm getting some really tough questions. the site loads pretty fast and i like the straightforward look. at least they don't have huge graphics and the cgi's don't take forever to load (yet). i'll let you know what i find. - jb BTW i'd really like to see their routing 2.0 exams... let's do that one next. when are you taking the 507? __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Network Professional required in India
Thanks, -Original Message- From: Networkspecialist [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Network Professional required in India Importance: High Hello frns, There are lots of requirement for Network professional in a reputed organisation.We are recruiting Networking professionals for Networking Circle. As a one-off offer for Network requirements, REQUIREMENT EXPERIENCE Manager 8+ Years Specialists 5 - 8 Years Engineers / Senior Engineers2 - 5 Years Educational qualifications: B.E / B.Tech / M.E. / M.Tech in CS or ECE with more than two years experience in NS related activities Diploma in CS or ECE with more than Four years experience in NS related activities The candidate should have the following technical skills: In depth knowledge of Win 95, Win 98, Win NT Workstation, Win NT Server Good knowledge of PC and Server HW Good at Exchange mailing systems MCSE In addition the candidate should have worked specialized in, by having experience in one or more of the following OS / Databases / WAN equipment / Security systems / Web servers on production servers / equipment. UNIX - Administration Shell scripting Solaris or HP UX Unix Security DBA for SQL / Oracle on NT DBA for Oracle on UNIX platforms Setting up and maintaining WANs Cisco Router configuration WAN security NT Security Firewalls and Proxy server configurations Lotus Domino IIS Apache webserver MCSD, CCNA, CCNP, Linux and SUN Solaris Admin certified professionals will be preferred. All referrals may please be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your resume should reach me within a weektime. Thanks and regards, NetworkSpecialist ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ARP Broadcast
Hi all, Yeah, I do agree with Kent. Hitesh Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/04/2000 02:36:27 AM Please respond to Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "m. jean stockton" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cisco man [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: harora) Subject: RE: ARP Broadcast When working with Lay3, it must be mapped to something that is Lay2, MAC,DCLI, VPI/VCI... so that the system knows how to handle it. Dynamically, this is sloved by ARP. When you want to ping 1.1.1.1, your PC/router needs to know the MAC address/DLCI number of 1.1.1.1 in order to talk to it over LAN or FR, but it does not know it, how can we let it know dynamically without a kind of broadcast? when you say unicast, do you mean the MAC address of the destination which your machine does not know yet? When it is point-to-point, there is no need to have the concepts of broadcast and unicast, because there are only two nodes, you just send everything to a specific address, and program your software or hardware to always listen to that address when they are in point-to-point mode. Kent --- "m. jean stockton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great Question!!!Seems that the only thing that is required is a point-2-point communication as the IP address is known. My 2 cents worth. makeeda -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco man Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ARP Broadcast Hi All, Could any one explain why ARP needs to broadcast when looking for the MAC address. Why not send a unicast using the given IP address. Regards to all Vapian Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to configure VLAN on 2900 switch
Below is the way to configure a 2900 Series Switch that is running the Enterprise IOS subset for the switch.If there are anything that I've left out with this please reply to this.Thanks. lab-switch#vlan database lab-switch(vlan)#vtp domain vlan1 = whatever you want to name you vlan domain lab-switch(vlan)#vtp password XXX vtp password lab-switch(vlan)#vtp server ^^^ = only on the first switch all other switches need to be ' vtp client ' lab-switch#show vtp status These commands are totally separate from the Trunk Ports.These commands are for the individual ports itself that belong to the Vlans.Whereas the Trunk port are the port that uplink with the Router. lab-switch(config)#interface fastethernet x/x lab-switch(config-if)#switchport access vlan X = whatever Vlan you want this to have access too There can only be one of the following below on an interface.Only one Encapsulation per Port. These commands are separate from the switchport access vlan X .Whereas these uplink to the Router for the Vlan trunk connection. lab-switch(config-if)#switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q= for IEEE 802.1Q Encapsulation lab-switch(config-if)#switchport trunk encapsulation isl = for Cisco proprietary ISL Encapsulation lab-switch(config-if)#switchport mode trunk -JEK- Senior Network/Systems Engineer CCNA "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dear Friends, What is the procedure to configure VLan on 2900 switches, wat command to use? If we don't configured VLAN on 2900 switches, will it cause the slowness in the network Chee Tong == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use Async Port
Actually, I have Cisco Router 3640 which has 16 terminal lines and Cisco Router 2610 which has 2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s). I already configure for both router that Cisco 2610 from interface serial async can connect to Cisco 3640 but connection cannot establish. Here I send the configure : Cisco 3640 ! ! interface Async112 description Dial Up Conn to GJKTggl01 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat inside encapsulation ppp ip tcp header-compression passive dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 300 dialer map snapshot 1 name GJKTggl01 dialer map ip 10.1.4.2 name GJKTggl01 broadcast dialer hold-queue 10 dialer-group 1 async default routing async mode dedicated snapshot server 5 dialer no cdp enable ppp authentication chap ! router eigrp 10 network 10.0.0.0 ! ! line 112 script dialer dialnum script reset rstmdm modem InOut modem autoconfigure discovery transport input all stopbits 1 flowcontrol hardware Cisco 2610 interface Serial0 physical-layer async ip address 10.1.5.2 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ip tcp header-compression passive dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 600 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 20 dialer map snapshot 1 name JKTGSP01 5222146 dialer map ip 10.1.5.1 name JKTGSP01 broadcast 5222146 dialer hold-queue 10 dialer-group 1 async default routing async mode dedicated fair-queue 64 16 0 no cdp enable ppp authentication chap ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit line 1 script dialer dialnum script reset rstmdm modem InOut modem autoconfigure discovery transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 flowcontrol hardware try to debug, ...encapsulation failed, DDR fair queue failed. Does anyone have configuration for this...? Thanks ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clock rate on C1005 synch?
So you've done a frame-relay intf-type dce and then tried to do the clock rate .Remember that when you go to configure the clock rate that it's 2 words; but in the config it's just one word.Is the wonderful ? not helping. -JEK- Senior Network/Systems Engineer CCNA "SteveS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jpbj4$gu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jpbj4$gu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I cannot seem to get the router to take a clock rate command. I have been trying to set up frame-relay, turned on frame-relay switching, etc. Seemed to get the router to go DCE as it shows in sh int s0, and in sh controll ser. but there is no clock speed. I tried an inverse clock to no avail. Any ideas? or am I stuck with DTE only on a C1005 Thanks, Steve Yes, I have a DCE/DTE cable and the correct ends are hooked up to the correct router. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FastEtherchannel using Compaq Servers
Are the Compaq servers using Tru64 Unix, Linux, or NT. "Lex Luther" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jq8lc$94b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jq8lc$94b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello Everyone, One of my students has a compaq server with 2 nics, each configured on the Cisco 6500 switch. The Trunking is 802.1Q Both ports are configured identically but only one port works. Both ports are to work together to achieve the throughput speed. Spanningtree is off as it is supposed to and full duplex is turned on. Can anyone help or have suggestions? --Lex ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down!
There can be a lot of reasons for the "Line protocol down" 1. The cable connected from the router may be Bad. 2. The CU is not sending the clock. Check whether all the pins such as DCD, DSR, DTR,RTS,CTS are UP. 3. There should be same config for Keepalive at both the ends. Either no keepalive or keepalive set 4. The encapsulation type should be same at both the ends. 5. The cable is not connected at the remote end. Waiting for your feedback Hitesh CCNA "Atif Awan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/04/2000 10:40:53 AM Please respond to "Atif Awan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "ANIL.YADAV" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mike Narine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: harora) Subject: RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! The router sees the packets with its own keepalive sequence numbers so thats why it knows that there is a loopback in place. Atif -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ANIL.YADAV Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 9:44 AM To: Mike Narine Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! I'm doing this loopback test on the back side of interface, its aphysical loop. earlier I thought it could be because of different protocols being used at the other end of the serial link. thanks. On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Mike Narine wrote: How are you connecting? Are the routers back-to-back or are you connecting to a Frame/T1/etc? Make sure your encaps are the same (do a show int s0 to verify). Also, are both ends showing the same stats for the Serial interface. Line Protocol might not be coming up when there's a loop because the command "down-when-looped" might be on... check your running cofig. Good luck. -Mike -Original Message- From: ANIL.YADAV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:23 PM To: Omer Shommo Cc: Cisco Group Study Subject: Re: Serial0 is up, line protocol is down! Hi!! everybody I'm facing a starnge problem. Even if I put a physical loop oan the serial interface my protocol doesn't come up it shows me something like this Serial1 is up, line protocol is down (looped) tried varios options but doesn' help. thanks anil On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Omer Shommo wrote: Hello to All, If Serial0 is up, line protocol is down, then what should I check? Give me as many answers as you can. BTW what is the line protocol? is it a network protocol like ip, ipx? or is it the data link layer protocol? Omer ___ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TeraTeram
You just have to go to File and then Connection and then select Serial and then what port your internal modem is using; then you just have to run the AT command set for your specific modem.I hope this helps. -JEK- Senior Network/Systems Engineer CCNA "Henrique Issamu Terada" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 003601bfe50d$9fae5080$ca0310ac@hterada">news:003601bfe50d$9fae5080$ca0310ac@hterada... Can I use Teraterm for remote access ? For exemple ,using my internal modem of laptop , dial to a modem which is attached to a aux port from router. I can do that with Hyper Terminal , but I did not find this option on TeraTerm. thanks Henrique Issamu TeradaCPM Comunicações - BrazilCCNA Certified
No Subject
Hi everyone, Can somebody please advice whre I cna buy Back to Back serial cable(DTE/DCE)for Cisco rotuers. Any online odering option with good price will definitely be preffered. Thanks, Zahid -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net DCE Cable
DTE/DCE Cable
Hi everyone, Can somebody please advice whre I cna buy Back to Back serial cable(DTE/DCE)for Cisco rotuers. Any online odering option with good price will definitely be preffered. Thanks, Zahid -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help
There are some here: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121newft/121 t/121t3/dtpri_ni.htm#xtocid59719 I did not try them myself though ans would be glad to know if this works :-) RGRDS, Evgeny - Original Message - From: "AUX0" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 2:07 AM Subject: Re: Need help Again, I have heard rumors but have yet to see it. Do you have any config examples? Evgeny Babanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jppgf$qu4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jppgf$qu4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Network Side PRI SIgnalling first was introduced in 12.1(2)XH version of IOS, RGRDS, Evgeny "Chris Larson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 009AE8FD8584D3119A2E0008C7F4A84929D2@WEBSERVER">news:009AE8FD8584D3119A2E0008C7F4A84929D2@WEBSERVER... I had heard rumors about this, but have never heard of anyone doing it. I tried this on my 3640 running 12.0(7) and there is no ISDN network command. Maybe you need enterprise IOS (I am running IP Plus IPSEC). There is a way to set TEI statically, but I do not think that would be sufficient. I did not follow through with a complete config. -Original Message- From: K Sacca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:54 PM To: Daniel Cotts; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Need help Try the following and see if it works. I was provided this information by a colleague. Are you trying to set up a back-to-back connection using ISDN ? If that's the case, on the peer serial0:23 interace, you need to issue the command ISDN network. This simulates the network (switch) side of the ISDN connection. You can verify that by doing 'show isdn status' and it should say '**network side configuration'. Be careful with clock sources tho. Generally I make the side which is acting as the network use the internal clock. This can be done by doing 'clock source internal' on the t1 controller Regards Kamoto --- Daniel Cotts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First you need two routers with an ISDN BRI interface. Note some have a U interface for USA connections while others have an S/T interface that is used in the rest of the world. Note that a NT-1 adapter converts the S/T on the router to interact with the U provided by the Telco. To connect them you must either have the Telco provide ISDN service or purchase an ISDN simulator. Two manufacturers of simulators are: 1) Arca Technologies - call Dean Coleman 800-888-1978 ext 252 also www.arca.com Lotsa toys! 2)Teltone check out www.teltone.com or talk to communications distributors such as Graybar or Anixter, etc. Also Specialized Products 800-866-5353. Good service but most likely not the lowest price. Simulators are expensive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need help Any Ideas on how can I configure a lab network to simulate ISDN can a cisco router do this job if yes which router. Regards, Amir ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and
Re: Static Routing or Route Maps
Cormac, You are absolutely correct (but Bal [EMAIL PROTECTED] was the first to point this out) Unfortunately I was wrong saying that HSRP can not track link failures (will read documentation more thourouglly:-),(and I 100 % agree with you that to run some kind of routing protocol to your ISP(BGP for example) is a better idea than to use statics, though it may involve series of talks with ISP guys. Routing protocol can help to eliminate the other issue with links (if they are FrameRelay) - if pvc fails somewhere inside FR cloud you local switch may not report failure - so for the HSRP link will look like functional. Roting protocol will eventually (recieving no updates/hellos etc) remove route from the routing table. RGRDS, Evgeny - Original Message - From: "Cormac Long" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Evgeny Babanin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Static Routing or Route Maps There are a couple of issues to clarify here: 1. If the 2 routers are not on the same LAN, HSRP is irrelevant (as has been pointed out below). 2. If on the same LAN HSRP can work well because it IS capable of detecting WAN link failure (you can configure it to "track" the WAN interfaces). You can also use the preempt feature to ensure that the preferable link will always get used if it is available. 3. Are these static routes being redistributed into a dynamic routing protocol? If they are then you configure the redistribution metric to bias one over the other. 4. In any case running a dynamic routing protocol to an ISP is usually not a good idea (security, plus co-ordination with the ISP). Regards, Cormac Long CCSI#21600 http://www.cormaclong.com --- Evgeny Babanin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem with HSRP is that it can not detect link failure,as its purpose is to create router hardware redundancy. Plus, if routers are not on the same Ethernet segment HSRP will not work. So the configuration can look like that: a) routers are on the same Ethernet segment HSRP + floating static routes(or any IGP between two routers - RIP for example) HSRP Ip address is the default gateway for the internal routers/workstations Every router has statically defined default pointing to the ISP and other default with greater AD pointing to the neighbor REAL (Not HSRP) address. In this case if the router itself fails - HSRP will take care of the traffic, if link fails - router will insert floating static route in to the routeing table an forward traffic to another router. b) routers are in different locations - No HSRP, so no hardware redundancy only floating static routes. RGRDS, Evgeny ""Michael L. Williams"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8joa3u$mgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8joa3u$mgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It seems to me using HSRP would be the best thing to do. That way, not only do the two routers act as redundant links for each other, they can load balance across them. Mike W. "Debbie Westall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 010b01bfe2bf$292b2eb0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:010b01bfe2bf$292b2eb0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Greetings, I have a customer that has two routers, each with links to ISPs. The links are statically routed. Using default routes in each router. They would like to have one link switch over to the other if one fails and when it comes up switch back. Is there a way to do this using static routing still (maybe floating static routes) or can I use route-maps OR will I have to configure a routing protocol? Thank you for your assistance. Debbie Westall Conxion Corporation Manager, Network Support 4201 Burton Drive Voice: (408) 566-8534 Santa Clara, CA 95054-1512 Pager: (408) 407-2917 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** = http://www.cormaclong.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solution - Encapsulation problems Cisco/Motorola - Frame Relay
Ooh, that's a good one! From your original post we were all assuming that the Cisco and Motorola gear were directly connected, as the case would have to be for our "fixes" to work. In your case, things are different: the encapsulation is not end-to-end, but only from the Cisco to the cloud, and from the Motorola to the cloud. CDP runs at the datalink layer in SNAP frames, IIRC, which the Motorola gear doesn't like. To top it off, not only is CDP in SNAP frames, but it's cisco-specific. No wonder the Motorola stuff didn't like it! Thanks for yet another good troubleshooting quiz! John Neiberger Hi there My colleague has solved the problem and I though to let you guys gals know. Cisco-(FR Cloud)-Motorola Every minute or so you'll see an error message on the Motorola ( cdp discovery going out from the Cisco) If everything works ok on both sides (ping both the works ) , but you get encapsulation error messages on the Motorola , then disable cdp on the Cisco side . ( no cdp enable) Thx for everybody's input ! Regards Olden Pieterse MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist Technical Consultant Mobile : +27 82 410 8621 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FW: Network Professional required in India]
Thanks, for putting this kind of openning on group list. -Original Message- From: Networkspecialist [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] mailto:[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 6:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Network Professional required in India Importance: High Hello frns, There are lots of requirement for Network professional in a reputed organisation.We are recruiting Networking professionals for Networking Circle. As a one-off offer for Network requirements, REQUIREMENT EXPERIENCE Manager 8+ Years Specialists 5 - 8 Years Engineers / Senior Engineers2 - 5 Years Educational qualifications: B.E / B.Tech / M.E. / M.Tech in CS or ECE with more than two years experience in NS related activities Diploma in CS or ECE with more than Four years experience in NS related activities The candidate should have the following technical skills: In depth knowledge of Win 95, Win 98, Win NT Workstation, Win NT Server Good knowledge of PC and Server HW Good at Exchange mailing systems MCSE In addition the candidate should have worked specialized in, by having experience in one or more of the following OS / Databases / WAN equipment / Security systems / Web servers on production servers / equipment. UNIX - Administration Shell scripting Solaris or HP UX Unix Security DBA for SQL / Oracle on NT DBA for Oracle on UNIX platforms Setting up and maintaining WANs Cisco Router configuration WAN security NT Security Firewalls and Proxy server configurations Lotus Domino IIS Apache webserver MCSD, CCNA, CCNP, Linux and SUN Solaris Admin certified professionals will be preferred. All referrals may please be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your resume should reach me within a weektime. Thanks and regards, NetworkSpecialist ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA 1 or 2
Dear all, I am planning to give my ccna exams, I would like to know whether I should wait for CCNA # 2 to come or give the current exams. Also what is launch date for the CCNA 2 ,any information on the same will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN What Additional Switches Must One Know
I teach BCMSN and it is quite different to CLSC. It is far less focussed on hardware and there is no ATM or FDDI. Additional stuff you do need to know includes: 1. RSM configuration on the Cat 5500 2. HSRP 3. There tends to be quite a lot on VTP 4. IP Multicasting (IGMP, CGMP, Spase and Dense mode routing on the RSMs). Hope this guides you in the right direction. Cormac Long CCSI#21600 http://www.cormaclong.com --- Kari Nurdin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am preparing to take the BCMSN exam. As many of you I am using material catered for the CLSC. Besides knowing the Cat. 1900, 2820, 3000 and 5000 series switches, what new switches should one know prior to taking the BSMSN. I looked at the Outline and Preparation Guild for the BSMSN, however, it makes no mention of any particular series of switches. Thanks Kari Nurdin CCNA CCDA Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = http://www.cormaclong.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA 1 or 2
Hello Amarjeet, CCNA 2 has been launched on 1st July the Todd Lamle new book is also published, but the thing is that the book is not available in market. It will be good if you write CCNA 2 only. -Original Message- From: Amarjeet Singh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:CCNA 1 or 2 Dear all, I am planning to give my ccna exams, I would like to know whether I should wait for CCNA # 2 to come or give the current exams. Also what is launch date for the CCNA 2 ,any information on the same will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
policy routing
Hi guys, Please see configurations below : ISP A owned 192.168.1.0/24 and ISP B owned 192.168.2.0/24 ISP A ISP B | | | | serial0 serial1 ethernet0 - using secondary address | | | | 192.168.1.0/24192.168.2.0/24 Customer which has 2 ISP using2 serial interfaces and 1 ethernet interface. Lets say, user which configured with network 192.168.1.0 should go through serial0 and user which configured with network 192.168.2.0 should gothrough serial1 Please correct the router configuration below : - interface serial0 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.252 interface serial1 ip address 192.168.4.1 255.255.255.252 interface ethernet0 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 secondary ip policy route-map test route-map test permit 10 match ip address 10 set interface serial0 route-map test permit 20 set interface serial1 access-list 10 permit 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 -- DidI miss something ? because it won't work. Thank you
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
Well, in light of everyone jumping in there I taught I might do the same. Here what fell out of this simple mind. access-list xx permit x.x.x.1 0.0.0.230 - ask me how I got this? Man, I was thinking now I'm all screwed up... I can't wait to see the answer, could my answer be right... Chuck/Mike "free the rest of us" please... Nigel. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: RE: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun I'm not human tonight. A paraphrase from Marlowe's soliloquy in The Little Sister, by Raymond Chandler. This, by the way, is why it takes me so damn long to master these Cisco things. I keep getting distracted by my liberal arts educational background. Chuck PS and I am not commenting on right or wrong because 1) let's see some more response and 2) it's not my puzzle anyway. Mike otta get the credit and have the fun of judging. :- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun Ok, I'll bite. My official guess is: access-list xx permit ip x.x.x.1 0.0.0.24 If I'm correct, I'll post how I did it later...right now I'm still wondering... :-) Chuck, you're mean...just plain mean! Good luck all! John Neiberger Come on, everyone. Where are you folks on this one? All you CCNA candidates. Show us your stuff. All you ACRC students - give it a try. I can't believe we haven't had a go round about this one. For the record, I have already filed my answer privately. It is a fun puzzle, and one that will demonstrate your thinking skills. Who knows the answer? How do you know you're right Chuck Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ACL Question My newsgroup reader "claims" to have posted my response to this when it was first asked. And for the record, I did have the correct answer and explanation too =P. So instead of posting yet another explanation on how to filter odd/even IP addresses, I'll post a similar but different question: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) If you want the answer without me posting it to the whole group (to keep things fun), feel free to e-mail me and I'll reply via e-mail with the answer. Mike W. "Raymond Everson (Rainman)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... *Still* haven't figured this one out: Create an IP ACL, in as few lines as possible of course, which permits only even-numbered IP addresses. Ideas? Rainman ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL
Re: CCNA 1 or 2
hmm, I purchaced the new book from www.chapters.ca and I recieved it two days later, I think you just have to know where to shop :) "Dinesh_Kakkar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello Amarjeet, CCNA 2 has been launched on 1st July the Todd Lamle new book is also published, but the thing is that the book is not available in market. It will be good if you write CCNA 2 only. -Original Message- From: Amarjeet Singh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA 1 or 2 Dear all, I am planning to give my ccna exams, I would like to know whether I should wait for CCNA # 2 to come or give the current exams. Also what is launch date for the CCNA 2 ,any information on the same will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1 or 2 - LET'S GET REAL!
C'mon people!! This exact same question has been asked every single day for 2 months now!! Are you that lazy not to look back through 1 day of archives??? We would cut out nearly half of the traffic on this list if we simply stopped asking... 1) Do I take test 1 or wait for test 2? and 2) I wanna take a test, what resources do you recommend? KNOCK IT OFF! -Original Message- From: Amarjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: CCNA 1 or 2 Dear all, I am planning to give my ccna exams, I would like to know whether I should wait for CCNA # 2 to come or give the current exams. Also what is launch date for the CCNA 2 ,any information on the same will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hyper Terminal for Windows 2000 - the solution
If you are using Windows 2000, the Hilgraeve Hyper Terminal client included in Windows will not show you the previous command when you hit the UP ARROW key. The alternative - CTRL - P - works fine. Solution: Download Hyper Terminal Private Edition, the full blown version of Hyper Terminal from Hilgraeve. It's on the Hilgraeve web site and also on CNET Download.com http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10061-100-1629146.html?tag=st.dl.10001_ 103_1.lst.td Watch for word wrap in the above URL. If you are using some other terminal emulation software - and there are a lot of them, some much better than Hyper Terminal - you wouldn't need this. Bharat Suneja ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA 1 or 2 - LET'S GET REAL!
Agree completely. And maybe if you are asking this question so late - when the CCNA 1.0 (Exam 640-407) is about to be retired by the end of this month - you should actually start preparing for CCNA 2.0 now (640-507). There are no new replies for the second question about resources too - we see the same old replies all the time, we know it all - get the Lammle book, hands on, CCO, Documentation CD, blah blah blah... :-) So folks, scroll back. Search the archive. That's what computers are for - they search well and bring up a tonne of information, some of it is even relevant... :-) Bharat Suneja ""Adam Hickey"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 01bfe52f$00d75980$d8771ee2@noc6">news:01bfe52f$00d75980$d8771ee2@noc6... C'mon people!! This exact same question has been asked every single day for 2 months now!! Are you that lazy not to look back through 1 day of archives??? We would cut out nearly half of the traffic on this list if we simply stopped asking... 1) Do I take test 1 or wait for test 2? and 2) I wanna take a test, what resources do you recommend? KNOCK IT OFF! -Original Message- From: Amarjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: CCNA 1 or 2 Dear all, I am planning to give my ccna exams, I would like to know whether I should wait for CCNA # 2 to come or give the current exams. Also what is launch date for the CCNA 2 ,any information on the same will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DTE/DCE Cable
Try eBay. Bharat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi everyone, Can somebody please advice whre I cna buy Back to Back serial cable(DTE/DCE)for Cisco rotuers. Any online odering option with good price will definitely be preffered. Thanks, Zahid -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
I concur. Originally, I got the 0.0.0.24, but someone said something about wildcard vs subnet masking, I did my math and voila! Looks right on paper, but I don't currently have a router to try it on. - Original Message - From: "Nigel Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "John Neiberger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Bryant Andrews" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 1:56 AM Subject: Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun Well, in light of everyone jumping in there I taught I might do the same. Here what fell out of this simple mind. access-list xx permit x.x.x.1 0.0.0.230 - ask me how I got this? Man, I was thinking now I'm all screwed up... I can't wait to see the answer, could my answer be right... Chuck/Mike "free the rest of us" please... Nigel. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: RE: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun I'm not human tonight. A paraphrase from Marlowe's soliloquy in The Little Sister, by Raymond Chandler. This, by the way, is why it takes me so damn long to master these Cisco things. I keep getting distracted by my liberal arts educational background. Chuck PS and I am not commenting on right or wrong because 1) let's see some more response and 2) it's not my puzzle anyway. Mike otta get the credit and have the fun of judging. :- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun Ok, I'll bite. My official guess is: access-list xx permit ip x.x.x.1 0.0.0.24 If I'm correct, I'll post how I did it later...right now I'm still wondering... :-) Chuck, you're mean...just plain mean! Good luck all! John Neiberger Come on, everyone. Where are you folks on this one? All you CCNA candidates. Show us your stuff. All you ACRC students - give it a try. I can't believe we haven't had a go round about this one. For the record, I have already filed my answer privately. It is a fun puzzle, and one that will demonstrate your thinking skills. Who knows the answer? How do you know you're right Chuck Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ACL Question My newsgroup reader "claims" to have posted my response to this when it was first asked. And for the record, I did have the correct answer and explanation too =P. So instead of posting yet another explanation on how to filter odd/even IP addresses, I'll post a similar but different question: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) If you want the answer without me posting it to the whole group (to keep things fun), feel free to e-mail me and I'll reply via e-mail with the answer. Mike W. "Raymond Everson (Rainman)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... *Still* haven't figured this one out: Create an IP ACL, in as few lines as possible of course, which permits only even-numbered IP addresses. Ideas? Rainman ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
x.x.x.1 0.0.0.230 answer would be correct for the PIX firewall (they use reverse wildcard mask - match 1, do_not_care 0) but in router case should not this be x.x.x.1 0.0.0.24? if we put this in binary: (forget about first three bytes ) 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 1 - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 9 - 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 17 - 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 25 - 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 it gives us the following - we want 1 in the position 1. 0's in 8,7,6,3,2 and do_not_care in 5 and 4. For the access- lists on Cisco routers 0 is match, 1 is do_not_care so wildcard mask should be 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 which gives us 24 x.x.x.1 0.0.0.24 sutisfies this condition RGRDS, Evgeny -- *** Please DO NOT send replyes just directly to me, post them to the Newsgroup as well *** ""Nigel Taylor"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, in light of everyone jumping in there I taught I might do the same. Here what fell out of this simple mind. access-list xx permit x.x.x.1 0.0.0.230 - ask me how I got this? Man, I was thinking now I'm all screwed up... I can't wait to see the answer, could my answer be right... Chuck/Mike "free the rest of us" please... Nigel. - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: RE: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun I'm not human tonight. A paraphrase from Marlowe's soliloquy in The Little Sister, by Raymond Chandler. This, by the way, is why it takes me so damn long to master these Cisco things. I keep getting distracted by my liberal arts educational background. Chuck PS and I am not commenting on right or wrong because 1) let's see some more response and 2) it's not my puzzle anyway. Mike otta get the credit and have the fun of judging. :- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun Ok, I'll bite. My official guess is: access-list xx permit ip x.x.x.1 0.0.0.24 If I'm correct, I'll post how I did it later...right now I'm still wondering... :-) Chuck, you're mean...just plain mean! Good luck all! John Neiberger Come on, everyone. Where are you folks on this one? All you CCNA candidates. Show us your stuff. All you ACRC students - give it a try. I can't believe we haven't had a go round about this one. For the record, I have already filed my answer privately. It is a fun puzzle, and one that will demonstrate your thinking skills. Who knows the answer? How do you know you're right Chuck Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ACL Question My newsgroup reader "claims" to have posted my response to this when it was first asked. And for the record, I did have the correct answer and explanation too =P. So instead of posting yet another explanation on how to filter odd/even IP addresses, I'll post a similar but different question: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) If you want the answer without me posting it to the whole group (to keep things fun), feel free to e-mail me and I'll reply via e-mail with the answer. Mike W. "Raymond Everson (Rainman)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... *Still* haven't figured this one out: Create an IP ACL, in as few lines as possible of course, which permits only even-numbered IP addresses. Ideas? Rainman ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and
Re: BSCN vs. ACRC - BGP focus
http://www.mrtd.net/ you can get BGPSIM here go hurt yourselves heh sheeesh yet another folder in the to do list. Maybe one of you programmer types can compile this into an exe for us kernal impaired folks. Was Tone that said BGP = Bloody Great Pain hehe Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FastEtherchannel using Compaq Servers
You do not need trunking on the ports to get them to work together... it's a channel you need to configure. Since your subject includes FastEtherChannel, I presume you already knew this? But you do not mention it in your message? Sometimes there is a confusion between trunking and channeling. The first one is to transport traffic of multiple VLANs over one link. The later one is to group several physical links together into a logical link with a greater capacity. Do you have a channel configured which includes the two ports connected to the Compaq? Hope this helps, Dirk "Lex Luther" wrote in message 8jq8lc$94b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello Everyone, One of my students has a compaq server with 2 nics, each configured on the Cisco 6500 switch. The Trunking is 802.1Q Both ports are configured identically but only one port works. Both ports are to work together to achieve the throughput speed. Spanningtree is off as it is supposed to and full duplex is turned on. Can anyone help or have suggestions? --Lex ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EPILOG: Checksum Error @ Copy TFTP FLASH
The causewas two bad sticks of FLASH... Anyone know how to warranty SMART products ??? Thanks !!! Phil - Original Message - From: Circusnuts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 12:58 AM Subject: Checksum Error @ Copy TFTP FLASH I am trying to download IOS into a 2500 I am getting success on the TFTP Server, but the router fails the image on the Checksum... Verifying checksum... invalid (expected 0x555, computed 0x7688) Any Ideas... I have swapped FLASH sticks this did not change the outcome. These are Cisco FLASH sticks (not a compatibility issue). The image is not too large for the amount of FLASH. The boot ROM's are of the newest model 11.0's. I installed new RAM, but I've not reached RAM operations @ this point in a 2500 (verifying what has just been installed into FLASH)... Any leads would be greatly appreciated... Thanks !!! Phil
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle - fun in the sun
access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.1 255.255.255.24 ^_^ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connecting different Autonomous Systems?
Hi, I am repeating my question, since I didn't hear from anybody, so I assume that I didn't ask it the right way. Here it is: If you want to connect AS 100 to AS 300 or multiple AS's what are different ways that we can do it? We can use BGP. But I saw this question asking that know "other ways" to make connection between different AS rather using BGP. What they could be if they are not EGP? I saw this question under the new objectives for Routing 2.0. I would be really thankful if anybody can clear my understanding for this Routing question. Best regards, Maria As Bill Clinton might say, that depends on how you define "autonomous system." If you look at RFC 1930 and the general interpretation by the registries that assign AS numbers, a registered AS: -- is a set of addresses (and routers) -- under one or more administrations -- presents a common routing policy to the Internet -- announces that policy with BGP-4 (Additional practical guidelines from the registries) -- connects (or will connect in 1 month) to 2 or more other AS -- upstream connections of at least T1 speed So, in what I think is the most pure definition, BGP-4 is the only way to interconnect true AS. A special case of interconnection is from a customer network with a private AS number to an upstream provider with a public AS number. Such connections use BGP-4, and the Internet properly sees only announcements originating from the public AS. Another special case is a BGP confederation, in which multiple AS with private AS numbers communicate with BGP, and, if there are any announcements to the general Internet, remove the private AS numbers and show the origin as the registered AS. Now, there are older usages of the term AS, and you will see them associated with Cisco discussions of interior routing protocols. The older definition essentially considers an AS: -- a set of addresses (and routers) -- under one administration -- uses common internal metrics and routing policy Under this definition, IGRP and EIGRP can create AS that do not exchange routes without explicit redistribution. By putting IGRP and EIGRP in the same AS number, you can get automatic redistribution. OSPF also uses an older definition of AS, which really means the set of addresses and routers that are in, or connect to, a single area 0.0.0.0. Even if a route comes in from another OSPF process, it must come in through an "ASBR". The OSPF, and generally (E)IGRP, usages of "AS" are much closer to what the IETF would call a "routing realm" or "routing domain". Historically, Cisco courses and tests do not use this term, although you'll see it in Cisco contributions to the IETF. A final comment -- an enterprise that connects to a single service provider using static/default routing on its side is part of the provider's AS. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cat 6500 problem
I have 2 Cat 6500's. I can only see mod 1, if I try to switch to any other mod then I get a Pinnacle synch error(see below). I have switched SUP's with another 6500 and I still cannot switch to another MOD. I have a GBIC blade in mod 2 and I have swapped that out with a 48port 10/100 blade, no good. I have tried different slots, either with the GBIC by itself or with the 48port, on both of the chasis, I still cannot see any other mod besides mod 1. Any ideas ?? Thanks James 2000 Jul 03 16:42:54 %SYS-3-MOD_MINORFAIL:Minor problem in module 1 Pinnacle Synch Failed. Retries: 4 WARNING: Switching bus not synchronised 2000 Jul 03 16:43:04 %SYS-5-MOD_OK:Module 1 is online Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no prompt
just got a new 1400 delivered, i cant get a prompt up , with a console session, anybody care to speculate thanks a mil tayta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: happy independence day
Thank you! It's hard to appreciate what you have until you've lived with something else for a bit. I hope Nigeria continues to improve...you have so very much potential. Best wishes. Annlee ""Oladele Ayuba"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm in Nigeria but I was really expecting to see a lot of Independence day posts! The same thing that happened to engineers in school (college) is happening to networkers. They get so engulfed by their work and miss out on the rest of the fun.. To all Americans happy independence day ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Layer 3 VS. Layer 2
Guys, I need some help. Can someone please explain why Layer 3 Switching is faster than Layer 2 Switching? It seems to me that with L3 the switch would have to go upthree layer instead of two. I may have whole concept so please explain.
happy independence day
I'm in Nigeria but I was really expecting to see a lot of Independence day posts! The same thing that happened to engineers in school (college) is happening to networkers. They get so engulfed by their work and miss out on the rest of the fun.. To all Americans happy independence day ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no prompt
a new 1400??? are you talking about a fddi/cddi switch? if so, you cant use a regular console cable. you need to make a special one (sort of like a null modem cable). check cisco's website for more details. -brad ""tayta"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jsss3$li1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jsss3$li1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just got a new 1400 delivered, i cant get a prompt up , with a console session, anybody care to speculate thanks a mil tayta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Single ISDN BRI Dial to 3 Sites
What type of interesting traffic are you letting thru on the B-Channels.Maybe you should setup Dialer Profiles and then setup your map-class statements and then setup your access-list / dialer-list to filter out your desired traffic for each Profile. -JEK- Senior Network/Systems Engineer CCNA "Tan Choh Koon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, AT Hub site I had configure one physical BRI to dial to and receive call from 3 remotes router. So far it is working well, but I discovered if Hub router had initiated call to 2 remote sites, then when there is a traffic to 3rd remote site the router initiated the 3rd call but there is not available channel (2B is occupied ) to call. It should drop the 3nd call till the channels is available agains. But weird things is it Disconnected the First called number and allowed the 3rd call ? How to prevent this ? I dont want to interrupt the previous connection till the idle time is expired, then only the 3nd call traffice can make the connection. Thanks Choh Koon, Tan CCDA,CCNP ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vlan routing with 802.1q
Hi all, I have a Cat4003 3640, i'm trying to configure 802.1q encapsulation on both unit, and use 3640 as the vlan router. Finally, i can make it working, but i hope someone can tell whether i have configure it rightly. my configuration for vlan routing for 1,2 3 on 3640 router is like : interface FastEthernet1/0 ip address 203.92.128.1 255.255.255.224 no ip directed-broadcast ! interface FastEthernet1/0.2 encapsulation dot1Q 2 ip address 203.92.128.193 255.255.255.248 no ip directed-broadcast ! interface FastEthernet1/0.3 encapsulation dot1Q 3 ip address 203.92.128.130 255.255.255.192 no ip directed-broadcast Hope someone can give me some idea on 802.1q vlan routing configuration. Thanks in advance. regards, lee ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Layer 3 VS. Layer 2
"Rodney Jackson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Guys, I need some help. Can someone please explain why Layer 3 Switching is faster than Layer 2 Switching? It seems to me that with L3 the switch would have to go up three layer instead of two. I may have whole concept so please explain. *sigh* the reason you are confused is that layer 3 switching is principally a marketing rather than a technical term. Relaying packets based on layer 3 information is routing. Relaying frames based on layer 2 information is bridging or frame/cell switching. Each of these levels has two components: Path determination May contain dynamic routing protocols Will contain configuration information Stores best paths in a Routing Information Base(RIB) that is optimized for efficient updating May create a Forwarding Information Base (FIB) that is optimized for speed of lookup. Alternatively, the RIB and FIB may be the same. Forwarding Makes forwarding decisions based on the contents of the FIB When hardware assisted and making layer 3 decisions, often is called layer 3 switching So a layer 3 switch is really a hardware-accelerated router. A layer 2 switch is faster than a traditional bridge, under most circumstances, because: It has a very fast internal forwarding fabric interconnecting its ports It uses microsegmentation on its user ports It usually will have a hardware-assisted FIB containing layer 2 information Things are getting more, not less, complex. Multiprotocol label switching (MPLS) or Cisco's tag switching makes forwarding decisions based on a label or tag, usually between the layer 2 and 3 headers. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wild Card Mask Puzzle SOLUTION!!!!!!
Okay. There have been alot of responses to this. And alot of people wanting the answer. SO, let me mention Evgeny Babanin and Chuck Hwang, since they gave correct responses to the question! Congrats!! Now, I'll everyone's agony... =) The answer is: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 Here's the explanation: Remeber in the wildcard mask, for a given bit: 0 = must match the same bit in the source address given 1 = doesn't matter what it is I will use A.B.C.1 for the source address in the access-list command since (as we see below) the least significant should always be 1. Below I have the binary version of our address 0.0.0.1: aaa aaa.bbb bbb.ccc ccc. 0001 - least significant bit = 1, thus the decimal value of that octect is 1. This is crutial because this is the only non-zero bit in the source address. We'll use that later. Limiting ourselves to looking at the last octet of the target IPs we want to let through, 0001 = 1 1001 = 9 0001 0001 = 17 0001 1001 = 25 --- So since the last bit ( xxx1) has to = 1 (like in the source address), it's corresponding wildcard bit must = 0 so we know the wildcard mask so far has to be xxx0 (last octect only) we also know that bits (from right to left) 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 HAVE to be = 0 (so they match the zeros in the source address), so therefore their corresponding bits in the wildcard mask must be = 0. So now we have: 000x x000 (last octect only) When looking at bit 4 and 5 we see that they could be either 0 or 1. Any of the four combinations of 0 and 1 give us the four target addresses, so their bits in the wildcard mask are = 1. So our final wildcard mask will be 0001 1000 (last octect only) = 24 (decimal) So.. the following command is the correct answer: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 It's a tough question,.. That's why it's fun =) Thanks to everyone that participated! Mike W. PS: Alrighty Chuck. we're ready for the next question =) Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use Async Port
What, debug's are you running on this setup.Could you post what debug's you're running and what the output is.You will need to setup a chat-script and probably a few extra setups in the chat-script.Are the routers timing out for a encapsulation setup or what.Do the LCP's ever come to an open status when you look at the Async Interface. Need more information. -JEK- Senior Network/Systems Engineer CCNS "Erwin Novriyanto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Actually, I have Cisco Router 3640 which has 16 terminal lines and Cisco Router 2610 which has 2 Low-speed serial(sync/async) network interface(s). I already configure for both router that Cisco 2610 from interface serial async can connect to Cisco 3640 but connection cannot establish. Here I send the configure : Cisco 3640 ! ! interface Async112 description Dial Up Conn to GJKTggl01 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat inside encapsulation ppp ip tcp header-compression passive dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 300 dialer map snapshot 1 name GJKTggl01 dialer map ip 10.1.4.2 name GJKTggl01 broadcast dialer hold-queue 10 dialer-group 1 async default routing async mode dedicated snapshot server 5 dialer no cdp enable ppp authentication chap ! router eigrp 10 network 10.0.0.0 ! ! line 112 script dialer dialnum script reset rstmdm modem InOut modem autoconfigure discovery transport input all stopbits 1 flowcontrol hardware Cisco 2610 interface Serial0 physical-layer async ip address 10.1.5.2 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ip tcp header-compression passive dialer in-band dialer idle-timeout 600 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 20 dialer map snapshot 1 name JKTGSP01 5222146 dialer map ip 10.1.5.1 name JKTGSP01 broadcast 5222146 dialer hold-queue 10 dialer-group 1 async default routing async mode dedicated fair-queue 64 16 0 no cdp enable ppp authentication chap ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit line 1 script dialer dialnum script reset rstmdm modem InOut modem autoconfigure discovery transport input all stopbits 1 speed 115200 flowcontrol hardware try to debug, ...encapsulation failed, DDR fair queue failed. Does anyone have configuration for this...? Thanks ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happy Independence Day Americans
To all Americans happy independence day As a member of NR Naval Special Warfare (SEAL) Team Two I would like to thank all the people who served this country gave us freedom. Abdul Razzaq NR Naval Special Warfare (SEAL) Team Two. New Jersey. -- - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle SOLUTION!!!!!!
Michael, Thanks a lto for mentioning my name, but I've just looked through follow-ups and found out that John Neiberger was the first to give correct answer. RGRDS, EVgeny -- *** Please DO NOT send replies just directly to me, post them to the Newsgroup as well *** ""Michael L. Williams"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Okay. There have been alot of responses to this. And alot of people wanting the answer. SO, let me mention Evgeny Babanin and Chuck Hwang, since they gave correct responses to the question! Congrats!! Now, I'll everyone's agony... =) The answer is: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 Here's the explanation: Remeber in the wildcard mask, for a given bit: 0 = must match the same bit in the source address given 1 = doesn't matter what it is I will use A.B.C.1 for the source address in the access-list command since (as we see below) the least significant should always be 1. Below I have the binary version of our address 0.0.0.1: aaa aaa.bbb bbb.ccc ccc. 0001 - least significant bit = 1, thus the decimal value of that octect is 1. This is crutial because this is the only non-zero bit in the source address. We'll use that later. Limiting ourselves to looking at the last octet of the target IPs we want to let through, 0001 = 1 1001 = 9 0001 0001 = 17 0001 1001 = 25 --- So since the last bit ( xxx1) has to = 1 (like in the source address), it's corresponding wildcard bit must = 0 so we know the wildcard mask so far has to be xxx0 (last octect only) we also know that bits (from right to left) 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 HAVE to be = 0 (so they match the zeros in the source address), so therefore their corresponding bits in the wildcard mask must be = 0. So now we have: 000x x000 (last octect only) When looking at bit 4 and 5 we see that they could be either 0 or 1. Any of the four combinations of 0 and 1 give us the four target addresses, so their bits in the wildcard mask are = 1. So our final wildcard mask will be 0001 1000 (last octect only) = 24 (decimal) So.. the following command is the correct answer: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 It's a tough question,.. That's why it's fun =) Thanks to everyone that participated! Mike W. PS: Alrighty Chuck. we're ready for the next question =) Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam
I'm one exam (BCSN) away from CCNP Kevin L. Kultgen MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP Calgary, Alberta - Original Message - From: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin L. Kultgen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ""Dale Cantrell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam Am I off-base... Since the SPECIALIZATIONS are available ONLY to CCIEs and CCNPs... why are the betas allowing anyone off the street to take a shot? I would not even mind opening it up to CCNAs, DAs but hold the beat to some one that has shown some initiative toward the cisco cert Just curious if I am missing the point here? Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Kevin L. Kultgen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ""Dale Cantrell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam I've got it booked. Im design a voiceover IP WAN for a client and have done some research into it but I don't think I'm 100% fluent in it. I've got it scheduled for July 21. The last day possible. Gives me a little bit of time to find material come up to par. Kevin L. Kultgen MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP Calgary, Alberta - Original Message - From: ""Dale Cantrell"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:41 PM Subject: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam Hi people, anyone else happen to register for this? Way out of my league but I'm not missing any more betas. Dale Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: policy routing
There are 2 problems with the route-map. 1. Syntax should be "set ip next-hop serial0" 2. There is no match in the map for 192.168.2.0 so those packets will get dropped. Correct config should be: route-map test permit 10 match ip address 10 set ip next-hop interface serial0 route-map test permit 20 match ip address 11 set ip next-hop interface serial1 access-list 10 permit 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 access-list 11 permit 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 Regards, Cormac Long CCSI#21600 http://www.cormaclong.com --- Nurarif Wibawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Please see configurations below : ISP A owned 192.168.1.0/24 and ISP B owned 192.168.2.0/24 ISP AISP B | | | | serial0 serial1 ethernet0 - using secondary address | | | | 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.2.0/24 Customer which has 2 ISP using 2 serial interfaces and 1 ethernet interface. Lets say, user which configured with network 192.168.1.0 should go through serial0 and user which configured with network 192.168.2.0 should go through serial1 Please correct the router configuration below : - interface serial0 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.252 interface serial1 ip address 192.168.4.1 255.255.255.252 interface ethernet0 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 secondary ip policy route-map test route-map test permit 10 match ip address 10 set interface serial0 route-map test permit 20 set interface serial1 access-list 10 permit 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 -- Did I miss something ? because it won't work. Thank you = http://www.cormaclong.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle SOLUTION!!!!!!
Thanks, Evgeny. My answer had that mask 0.0.0.24, which would only allow specific hosts on a specific subnet. If the original question was to allow any host witha 1,9,17, or 25 in the last octect--but from any subnet--then 255.255.255.24 would be the correct answer. It all depends on how the original question was worded. Regardless, the trickiest part was the mask on the last octect. Good question!! We need to make this a regular thing, that was a lot of fun. John Michael, Thanks a lto for mentioning my name, but I've just looked through follow-ups and found out that John Neiberger was the first to give correct answer. RGRDS, EVgeny -- *** Please DO NOT send replies just directly to me, post them to the Newsgroup as well *** ""Michael L. Williams"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Okay. There have been alot of responses to this. And alot of people wanting the answer. SO, let me mention Evgeny Babanin and Chuck Hwang, since they gave correct responses to the question! Congrats!! Now, I'll everyone's agony... =) The answer is: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 Here's the explanation: Remeber in the wildcard mask, for a given bit: 0 = must match the same bit in the source address given 1 = doesn't matter what it is I will use A.B.C.1 for the source address in the access-list command since (as we see below) the least significant should always be 1. Below I have the binary version of our address 0.0.0.1: aaa aaa.bbb bbb.ccc ccc. 0001 - least significant bit = 1, thus the decimal value of that octect is 1. This is crutial because this is the only non-zero bit in the source address. We'll use that later. Limiting ourselves to looking at the last octet of the target IPs we want to let through, 0001 = 1 1001 = 9 0001 0001 = 17 0001 1001 = 25 --- So since the last bit ( xxx1) has to = 1 (like in the source address), it's corresponding wildcard bit must = 0 so we know the wildcard mask so far has to be xxx0 (last octect only) we also know that bits (from right to left) 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 HAVE to be = 0 (so they match the zeros in the source address), so therefore their corresponding bits in the wildcard mask must be = 0. So now we have: 000x x000 (last octect only) When looking at bit 4 and 5 we see that they could be either 0 or 1. Any of the four combinations of 0 and 1 give us the four target addresses, so their bits in the wildcard mask are = 1. So our final wildcard mask will be 0001 1000 (last octect only) = 24 (decimal) So.. the following command is the correct answer: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 It's a tough question,.. That's why it's fun =) Thanks to everyone that participated! Mike W. PS: Alrighty Chuck. we're ready for the next question =) Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE EXAM
Exam objectives can be found somewhere on CCO. Sorry, lost the URL and is not easy to find ... but I know it's there. And .. please don't use this HTML crap on mailinglists ;-) Reading your mail as an HTML attachement isn't fun... -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solaris on Intel platform
Hi, Has anyone tried to install Solaris on PC? I want to buy a Solaris 8 media kit form Sun. When I checked the HCL from Sun web site, I found it has strict requirements for hardware, only VGA cards, sound cards..., but also motherboard with CPU, which I have not seen in Linux. Do I need to meet all the requirements? Thanks Lilian Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP certification
Right now you can't take foundation, so depending on your timing you will have to take all 4 exams. Other than that, it's up to your exam taking tastes. Do you like longer or shorter exams? There's been plenty of discussion on the subject a while ago, so may want to check the archives. Now as far as I'm concerned I'll take all 5 tests (for CCNP/CCDP) because I don't want to wait. If I had the choice, though, I would much rather take foundation, and get it over with quickly, as I get very anxious around test week :-) Francisco Muniz. "Nsikan Ntia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió en el mensaje de noticias 8jnnm5$spv$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, I need your advise.-- which is better to take for the CCNP certification a) The single exam path of four exams or b) The foundation exam path of two exams. Kindly give me reasons for your prefered choice. Thanks, Yinka ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cvoice
I just passed CVOICE today and wanted to let everyone that is planning to take the test, know a couple of things. Since there is no exam objectives here are a few things to consider. Understand the IOS commands to implement all Voice Over Technologies. Also, understand the physical hardware including the 2600, 3600, MC3810, and AS5300. Other then that understand the basics for Analog Telephony and Digital Voice Technologies. To study I used the Notes from the Course. Best of Luck to all in whatever you persue. Don Orlik ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy Independence Day Americans
Hey ! Is my birthday also :-) - Original Message - From: "ABDUL RAZZAQ" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: Happy Independence Day Americans To all Americans happy independence day As a member of NR Naval Special Warfare (SEAL) Team Two I would like to thank all the people who served this country gave us freedom. Abdul Razzaq NR Naval Special Warfare (SEAL) Team Two. New Jersey. -- - Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: happy independence day
Annlee Hines wrote: Thank you! It's hard to appreciate what you have until you've lived with something else for a bit. I hope Nigeria continues to improve...you have so very much potential. Best wishes. Annlee ""Oladele Ayuba"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm in Nigeria but I was really expecting to see a lot of Independence day posts! The same thing that happened to engineers in school (college) is happening to networkers. They get so engulfed by their work and miss out on the rest of the fun.. To all Americans happy independence day Freedom is something that you really don't appreciate fully until you have lived in a place where freedom is something defined by Big Brother and young children are taught to hate in its name. Happy Independence Day, everyone. Bert ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Spanning Tree
Title: Spanning Tree Well, I'm studying for Switching 2.0 so I may be wrong. The way I see it, the root port is the "upstream" port (this is tree, so there are upstream and downstream ports) while the designated ports are "downstream" ports, so conf BPDU flow from the root bridge, to the root port on the downstream bridge, to the designated port on same bridge, to the root on next bridge, and so on. Same thing with frames, they go upward to the root and downward from there to the right branch and leave Francisco Muniz. Hi, all. First of all, I just want to test if I'm able to post on the forum at all since I don't see any responses to my first posting. If this goes through, can someone tell me why would Spanning Tree Algorithm need a designated port when the root port has already been established as the least cost path to the Root Bridge? Thanks.
Re: Looking for CVOICE Books
The following are my own personal opinions and observations and are not meant to represent the official views of the company that I work for. I have recently passed CVOICE 1.0 A few personal comments: The exam I sat was based very heavily upon CVOICE course notes. So a set of CVOICE course notes are essential. It is not too difficult. No where near as much material as for ACRC. There are a lot of type in the command 'letter perfect' questions (about 14 - 20 ish in my case) No problems if you can do show configure basic voice over FR, ATM, IP. 1) CVOICE is Voice over Frame Relay (significant part), ATM (some questions), and IP (of course). 2) The 640-447 CVOICE exam is on the CVOICE v1.0 course. (The CVOICE notes may not be the best introduction to VoN but they are the gospel if you want to pass CVOICE. The lecturer on the course that I attended skipped some very significant sections of the notes. You need to study all chapters! It is helpful if you can get 'hands on' with the full range of kit ie 26xx/36xx, 3810, 5300 and know their main features). I attended the old v1.0 CVOICE. There is a new version available/about to be available that is reputed to be an improvement. I found the CVOICE 1.0 course a bit primitive and out of date. It was really aimed at the bottom end of the market; 2-4 voice ports perhaps up to 60. Essentially aimed at Branch Office / Medium Corporate connect and not at Carrier Grade solutions. Watch out for a very strong USA telephony bias. I am not sure that they have ever heard of E1 CAS, AC15, nor DPNSS - More of a problem if you come from Europe. Though remember it's Cisco's course, it's their exam and if you want to pass Other sources have better explanations of the concepts. BOOKS == The books that I found are all VoIP and on the whole quite good though none of them were CVOICE study guides. Be aware that CVOICE is Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, IP - not just VoIP. Cisco Voice over IP - Elliot Lewis ISBN 1-928994-03-2 A good introduction to intermediate level book on VoIP; includes some configs. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material. Does not cover telephony, VoFR, VoATM in enough detail for CVOICE. (But to be fair it claims to be a VoIP book not a CVOICE study guide.) Covers : H.323, Gatekeepers, Selsius AVVID, Cisco Call Manager (Soft PBX) Fax over IP - This is useful material but are all OT as far as CVOICE 1.0. Solutions are aimed mainly at Branch Office / Corporate connections and not Carrier Grade. Does not particularly address the issues of serialisation delay and the various forms of link fragmentation. In short quite a good introductory book with some good explanations as far as it goes - But not a CVOICE study guide. Cisco Packetised Voice Data - Robert Caputo ISBN Excellent introduction to intermediate level coverage of VoN technologies and concepts. Includes a lot of example configs. Particularly good introduction to analogue telephony, though like most books very much biased to USA telephony. Excellent coverage of QoS issues particularly for VoIP carried over Frame Relay. Good introduction to Dial Plans and Hunt Groups. Aimed at medium scale solutions, weak on coverage of Carrier Grade solutions. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material and weak on its coverage of VoFR and VoATM. In short a good introductory / intermediate book worth reading - But not a CVOICE study guide. Voice over IP Fundamentals - Jonathan Davidson ISBN 1-57870-168-6 A good intermediate level VoIP concepts and principles book. Very few example configs. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material, goes into too much depth and is too advanced. In developing your understanding of VoIP - excellent. Very good if you want to understand the more advanced concepts or as a VoIP reference guide. It has good coverage of telephony concepts particularly in the Enterprise, including ISDN, Q.931, QSIG, SS7. It includes a substantial introduction to and discussion of Qos issues. Excellent coverage of H.323, gatekeepers and virtual switches. Certainly well worth reading and keeping as a reference book. But is not a CVOICE study guide. If you have a limited budget I would buy Caputo's book. If you want to go further then Davidson's definitely has a place on my bookshelf. Peter ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need?
Scalable platforms, ranging from the Catalyst 6000 Series which offers 32 Gbps of switching capacity and scalable multilayer switching up to 30 Mpps, to the Catalyst 6500 Series offering scalable switching capacity up to 256 Gbps and multilayer switching up to 150 Mpps http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca6000.htm Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "McCormick, Corey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? "McCormick, Corey" wrote: I have noticed that these numbers are actually not necessarily accurate either. The Catalyst 6509 has a backplane quoted as having 256Mb/sec, 128Mb/sec, 32Mb/sec and 16Mb/sec. Which is true? Sort of they all are, from my current information. Basically 16Gb/sec. There is a new blade coming for the 6500 that is a 'crossbar switching fabric' that provides the higher bandwidth across compatible cards, etc. And 10Gb may be within the calendar year. [According to Networkers Las Vegas talk on campus switching, if I recall correctly; don't have my notes in front of me] Jeff Kell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need?
Better yet, Advertise it to alt2600 and tell them "U cant touch this... I have locked this down so smartly... and none of you are bright enough to get into it" PS..Back up all critical data before doing this and ensure you have no info on the unit that you don't mind on the front page of the New York Times grin Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Kenny Sallee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "James Kavenaugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? Sure - go ahead and send it. I'll see what I can do. Kenny - Original Message - From: "James Kavenaugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kenny Sallee" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? Hi, Could you please tell me more about these security holes, back doors and incompatibilities you mention? Are you speaking of just the kernel or are you including daemons that run on unix platforms? Maybe I could send you my ip and you could show me how trivial it is to cack? Thanks! James On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: Yea - if you want to put your enterprise on an OS full of security holes, back doors, and incompatibilities...not to mention all the moving parts that can fail and the lack of modularity...Need anymore gas? Kenny -- James Kavenaugh Computer Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 425-260-4067 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for CVOICE Books
Thanks Peter - VERY informative. Much appreciated. Roman The following are my own personal opinions and observations and are not meant to represent the official views of the company that I work for. I have recently passed CVOICE 1.0 A few personal comments: The exam I sat was based very heavily upon CVOICE course notes. So a set of CVOICE course notes are essential. It is not too difficult. No where near as much material as for ACRC. There are a lot of type in the command 'letter perfect' questions (about 14 - 20 ish in my case) No problems if you can do show configure basic voice over FR, ATM, IP. 1) CVOICE is Voice over Frame Relay (significant part), ATM (some questions), and IP (of course). 2) The 640-447 CVOICE exam is on the CVOICE v1.0 course. (The CVOICE notes may not be the best introduction to VoN but they are the gospel if you want to pass CVOICE. The lecturer on the course that I attended skipped some very significant sections of the notes. You need to study all chapters! It is helpful if you can get 'hands on' with the full range of kit ie 26xx/36xx, 3810, 5300 and know their main features). I attended the old v1.0 CVOICE. There is a new version available/about to be available that is reputed to be an improvement. I found the CVOICE 1.0 course a bit primitive and out of date. It was really aimed at the bottom end of the market; 2-4 voice ports perhaps up to 60. Essentially aimed at Branch Office / Medium Corporate connect and not at Carrier Grade solutions. Watch out for a very strong USA telephony bias. I am not sure that they have ever heard of E1 CAS, AC15, nor DPNSS - More of a problem if you come from Europe. Though remember it's Cisco's course, it's their exam and if you want to pass Other sources have better explanations of the concepts. BOOKS == The books that I found are all VoIP and on the whole quite good though none of them were CVOICE study guides. Be aware that CVOICE is Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, IP - not just VoIP. Cisco Voice over IP - Elliot Lewis ISBN 1-928994-03-2 A good introduction to intermediate level book on VoIP; includes some configs. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material. Does not cover telephony, VoFR, VoATM in enough detail for CVOICE. (But to be fair it claims to be a VoIP book not a CVOICE study guide.) Covers : H.323, Gatekeepers, Selsius AVVID, Cisco Call Manager (Soft PBX) Fax over IP - This is useful material but are all OT as far as CVOICE 1.0. Solutions are aimed mainly at Branch Office / Corporate connections and not Carrier Grade. Does not particularly address the issues of serialisation delay and the various forms of link fragmentation. In short quite a good introductory book with some good explanations as far as it goes - But not a CVOICE study guide. Cisco Packetised Voice Data - Robert Caputo ISBN Excellent introduction to intermediate level coverage of VoN technologies and concepts. Includes a lot of example configs. Particularly good introduction to analogue telephony, though like most books very much biased to USA telephony. Excellent coverage of QoS issues particularly for VoIP carried over Frame Relay. Good introduction to Dial Plans and Hunt Groups. Aimed at medium scale solutions, weak on coverage of Carrier Grade solutions. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material and weak on its coverage of VoFR and VoATM. In short a good introductory / intermediate book worth reading - But not a CVOICE study guide. Voice over IP Fundamentals - Jonathan Davidson ISBN 1-57870-168-6 A good intermediate level VoIP concepts and principles book. Very few example configs. Not very good for CVOICE exam - too much out of scope material, goes into too much depth and is too advanced. In developing your understanding of VoIP - excellent. Very good if you want to understand the more advanced concepts or as a VoIP reference guide. It has good coverage of telephony concepts particularly in the Enterprise, including ISDN, Q.931, QSIG, SS7. It includes a substantial introduction to and discussion of Qos issues. Excellent coverage of H.323, gatekeepers and virtual switches. Certainly well worth reading and keeping as a reference book. But is not a CVOICE study guide. If you have a limited budget I would buy Caputo's book. If you want to go further then Davidson's definitely has a place on my bookshelf. Peter ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ACL quiz
Hi all, For the gurus: Please make a habit of posting such questions - this stuff is not to be found in books - this is real life. Thank you. Mihai ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for CVOICE Books
Agreed! Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Peter - VERY informative. Much appreciated. Roman ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Set up question
You need to call phone company for both the frame realay, and for a DLCI to map your pvc to isp. I have a suggestion though. Why doesn't your company get DSL at the branch (and even hq) then use an IPSEC VPN to tunnel to the branch and vice versa. If your branch is going to come to the HQ to use internet your gonna soak up all the bandwidth anyway. In the scenario here, you both get high speed to the internet and each other using the tunnel through the internet. - Original Message - From: Arun Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:13 PM Subject: Set up question Hi Friends I have a question, if someone can help me I will highly appreciate. My office ( HQ ) is having Frame relay connection. Now they want to connect one more branch office with this office using Frame relay .But they want all the branch office people to access internet using the existing Frame relay connection at the HQ office. Now my doubt is , do I need to call only phone company for getting Frame relay line and DLCI no. or I have to also involve ISP . Do I need valid IP from ISP or I can use any private IP address. Thanks in advance for any help. Arun = Arun Upadhyay SE Engineering Merrill Lynch __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCO login
Okay now I have a question. What prerequisites are there to signing up for a CCO account? Its sounds to me like that's where the goods are! Let me know so I can sign up! Mike W. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO login
1. Registered Reseller 2. Consultant Program 3. Valid Contract "Michael L. Williams" wrote: Okay now I have a question. What prerequisites are there to signing up for a CCO account? Its sounds to me like that's where the goods are! Let me know so I can sign up! Mike W. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- ,-~~-.___. / | ' \ ( ) 0 \_/-, ,' e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] //www: http://www.xmission.com:80/~jalapeno / \-'~;/~~~(O) 4 / __/~| / | =( _| (_| ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO login
Not that I will qualify at the moment but look at Cisco's: http://www.cisco.com/public/scc/ there's the info you asked grtz... Erik "Michael L. Williams" wrote: Okay now I have a question. What prerequisites are there to signing up for a CCO account? Its sounds to me like that's where the goods are! Let me know so I can sign up! Mike W. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is Collaboration
Err... what context are you talking about? My dictionary (Penguin modern English) defines: Collaborate: work in conjunction with another; produce work jointly (esp literary work); assist and cooperate with an enemy occupier of one's country. If you do a search on CCO, the first hit is: Collaboration To meet the total solutions and services needs of our customers, Cisco collaborates with key industry leaders creating value-added offerings. This model of openness and collaboration means our customers can expect best-of-breed solutions to help them meet the challenges, and reap the benefits of the internet economy. So why do you ask? JMcL -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 05/07/2000 09:36 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/07/2000 07:48:34 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA) Subject: What is Collaboration Can someone explain what Collaboration is? Brian Email Address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab Study Guide
There are many errors in the All-in-One CCIE Lab Study Guide. is there an "errata" or something like that to note what are wrong in the book? thanks in advance ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dial up to 2501 AUX port
It is too funny that you posted that. Im working on that scenerio right now. See below for what I have so far. I cant seem to get my workstation to obtain the correct subnet mask. It will connect to my term server's aux port, and it can ping through to UUNET's DNS server, but the darn thing won't surf in IE. Pissing me off. -Brad interface AsyncX ip unnumbered Ethernet0 encapsulation ppp async dynamic address async mode dedicated peer default ip address x.x.x.x ppp authentication pap chap line aux 0 autoselect during-login autoselect ppp login local modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 rxspeed 38400 txspeed 38400 flowcontrol hardware "Jim Bond" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Can someone post a working dial up (from windows 95/NT) to 2501 aux port configuration? I'm not talking about DDR. Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wild Card Mask Puzzle SOLUTION!!!!!!
Two points. 1) always be careful with the wording of questions. There are two correct answers, depending upon how one interprets the question. Access-list 10 permit 0.0.0.1 255.255.255.24 is indeed correct IF you want to permit only the values of 1,9,17,and 25 in the last octet of ANY network, whether that be 192.168.1.x or 10.0.0.x etc Access-list 10 permit a.b.c.1 0.0.0.24 is indeed correct IF you want to permit only hosts with 1,9,17,25 in the last octet from a SPECIFIC network. Shades of Cisco exam questions. :- It's been fun, gang. Let's do it again sometime. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Wild Card Mask Puzzle SOLUTION!! Sorry for overlooking you! Good job! Mike W. John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 32064763.962730060174.JavaMail.imail@tiptoe">news:32064763.962730060174.JavaMail.imail@tiptoe... Thanks, Evgeny. My answer had that mask 0.0.0.24, which would only allow specific hosts on a specific subnet. If the original question was to allow any host witha 1,9,17, or 25 in the last octect--but from any subnet--then 255.255.255.24 would be the correct answer. It all depends on how the original question was worded. Regardless, the trickiest part was the mask on the last octect. Good question!! We need to make this a regular thing, that was a lot of fun. John Michael, Thanks a lto for mentioning my name, but I've just looked through follow-ups and found out that John Neiberger was the first to give correct answer. RGRDS, EVgeny -- *** Please DO NOT send replies just directly to me, post them to the Newsgroup as well *** ""Michael L. Williams"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jt2kl$2s4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Okay. There have been alot of responses to this. And alot of people wanting the answer. SO, let me mention Evgeny Babanin and Chuck Hwang, since they gave correct responses to the question! Congrats!! Now, I'll everyone's agony... =) The answer is: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 Here's the explanation: Remeber in the wildcard mask, for a given bit: 0 = must match the same bit in the source address given 1 = doesn't matter what it is I will use A.B.C.1 for the source address in the access-list command since (as we see below) the least significant should always be 1. Below I have the binary version of our address 0.0.0.1: aaa aaa.bbb bbb.ccc ccc. 0001 - least significant bit = 1, thus the decimal value of that octect is 1. This is crutial because this is the only non-zero bit in the source address. We'll use that later. Limiting ourselves to looking at the last octet of the target IPs we want to let through, 0001 = 1 1001 = 9 0001 0001 = 17 0001 1001 = 25 --- So since the last bit ( xxx1) has to = 1 (like in the source address), it's corresponding wildcard bit must = 0 so we know the wildcard mask so far has to be xxx0 (last octect only) we also know that bits (from right to left) 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 HAVE to be = 0 (so they match the zeros in the source address), so therefore their corresponding bits in the wildcard mask must be = 0. So now we have: 000x x000 (last octect only) When looking at bit 4 and 5 we see that they could be either 0 or 1. Any of the four combinations of 0 and 1 give us the four target addresses, so their bits in the wildcard mask are = 1. So our final wildcard mask will be 0001 1000 (last octect only) = 24 (decimal) So.. the following command is the correct answer: access-list 10 permit A.B.C.1 255.255.255.24 It's a tough question,.. That's why it's fun =) Thanks to everyone that participated! Mike W. PS: Alrighty Chuck. we're ready for the next question =) Puzzle posed by Mike Williams: Make a (single line) access-list that will only allow traffic from addresses matching the following model: x.x.x.1 x.x.x.9 x.x.x.17 x.x.x.25 It's along the same lines as the question you posed, but a little more challenging since you only want those 4 addresses to pass through. =) ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines:
More puzzles - OSPF Network statements
Gee, the recent wildcard mask puzzle was so much fun, let's do it again. The problem revolves around the OSPF network statement. Given an OSPF routing process, what are the fewest number of network statements that will incorporate the following networks into the given OSPF process? For example: router OSPF 100 Network a.b.c.d w.x.y.z area 0.0.0.0 Network b.c.d.e u.v.w.x area 0.0.0.0 etc Assume that all networks are in the same area ( for simplicity sake ) You may also assume ( for simplicity sake ) that the particular interface on which each particular network resides is the first host address on that network. For example, on network 10.10.3.0/24, the first host address ( and therefore the interface address ) is 10.10.3.1 Networks are as follows: 10.10.3.0 /24 10.25.17.0 /16 10.51.100.192 /26 172.16.0.0 /16 172.16.100.0 /24 172.16.210.240 /28 172.27.32.0 /19 192.168.0.0 /24 192.168.1.0 /30 192.168.207.56 /29 remember - accolades go to the one who can enter all of these networks into a single ospf process with the fewest possible network statements. Have fun! Chuck Please check out my new footers for a new age 1) Altruism http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite Please help feed hungry people worldwide. A few seconds a day can make a difference to many people 2) Shameless Hucksterism http://www.certificationzone.com An excellent study focal point for all levels of certification, as well as the attainment of internetworking expertise. Use my name when you register. You get good study material and I get extra time ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ports for Internet Mail
Let's use this scenario. 1. The clients are inside the corporate network, with private IP. Let's say 192.168.1.0, public range 202.166.1.0/28. The router is doing dynamic NAT. 2. The E-mail server is in the ISP. 3. Primary DNS is inside corporate network. I use following access-list, however the clients could not access internet mail. Is there any more ports I should open? Another question, for DNS, both TCP and UDP have port 'domain '. What's the difference? Following are examples of access-list: int s0 access-list 101 in access-list 101 permit tcp any 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 established access-list 101 permit tcp any 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 eq smtp access-list 101 permit tcp any 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 eq pop3 access-list 101 permit ip 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 any access-list 101 permit tcp any 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 eq domain access-list 101 permit udp any 202.166.1.0 0.0.0.15 eq domain ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need?
This was done last year by both MS and Mklinux. There were more DOS attacks than anything. In the end Mklinux was cracked because of a bad cgi script. I think it would have been a different story had all ports been locked down. On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, Lou Nelson wrote: Better yet, Advertise it to alt2600 and tell them "U cant touch this... I have locked this down so smartly... and none of you are bright enough to get into it" PS..Back up all critical data before doing this and ensure you have no info on the unit that you don't mind on the front page of the New York Times grin Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dark side of the puzzle More puzzles - OSPF Network statements
Chuck, I agree that problems like this do provide practice in masking. Let's make very sure, however, not to give the impression that minimizing the number of statements -- definitely OSPF network, and arguably access lists -- is a good idea for the real world. Consider the situation when one is called in, at 3AM, to troubleshoot a mission-critical network. And, as you look at the configuration in the routers having problems, you find nothing but "cute" statements, with no documentation. Personally, I make a point of having one OSPF network statement for each interface I want to speak OSPF. Much easier to understand, and there is no performance advantage to having a lesser number of statements. Even with access lists, I don't try to minimize except when I am facing a real performance problem that can't be solved any other way. The original Sprint access list that imposed their prefix length restrictions, IIRC, was 16 pages long. Gee, the recent wildcard mask puzzle was so much fun, let's do it again. The problem revolves around the OSPF network statement. Given an OSPF routing process, what are the fewest number of network statements that will incorporate the following networks into the given OSPF process? For example: router OSPF 100 Network a.b.c.d w.x.y.z area 0.0.0.0 Network b.c.d.e u.v.w.x area 0.0.0.0 etc Assume that all networks are in the same area ( for simplicity sake ) You may also assume ( for simplicity sake ) that the particular interface on which each particular network resides is the first host address on that network. For example, on network 10.10.3.0/24, the first host address ( and therefore the interface address ) is 10.10.3.1 Networks are as follows: 10.10.3.0 /24 10.25.17.0 /16 10.51.100.192 /26 172.16.0.0 /16 172.16.100.0 /24 172.16.210.240 /28 172.27.32.0 /19 192.168.0.0 /24 192.168.1.0 /30 192.168.207.56 /29 remember - accolades go to the one who can enter all of these networks into a single ospf process with the fewest possible network statements. Have fun! Chuck Please check out my new footers for a new age 1) Altruism http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite Please help feed hungry people worldwide. A few seconds a day can make a difference to many people 2) Shameless Hucksterism http://www.certificationzone.com An excellent study focal point for all levels of certification, as well as the attainment of internetworking expertise. Use my name when you register. You get good study material and I get extra time ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More puzzles - OSPF Network statements
Chuck, Do you really mean that address/mask pair for the second network on your list? And I assume we are to incorporate ONLY those networks into the OSPF process (otherwise the answer's easy... :-)? JMcL -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 05/07/2000 12:14 --- "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/07/2000 11:18:07 Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Cisco Mail List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA) Subject: More puzzles - OSPF Network statements Gee, the recent wildcard mask puzzle was so much fun, let's do it again. The problem revolves around the OSPF network statement. Given an OSPF routing process, what are the fewest number of network statements that will incorporate the following networks into the given OSPF process? For example: router OSPF 100 Network a.b.c.d w.x.y.z area 0.0.0.0 Network b.c.d.e u.v.w.x area 0.0.0.0 etc Assume that all networks are in the same area ( for simplicity sake ) You may also assume ( for simplicity sake ) that the particular interface on which each particular network resides is the first host address on that network. For example, on network 10.10.3.0/24, the first host address ( and therefore the interface address ) is 10.10.3.1 Networks are as follows: 10.10.3.0 /24 10.25.17.0 /16 10.51.100.192 /26 172.16.0.0 /16 172.16.100.0 /24 172.16.210.240 /28 172.27.32.0 /19 192.168.0.0 /24 192.168.1.0 /30 192.168.207.56 /29 remember - accolades go to the one who can enter all of these networks into a single ospf process with the fewest possible network statements. Have fun! Chuck Please check out my new footers for a new age 1) Altruism http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite Please help feed hungry people worldwide. A few seconds a day can make a difference to many people 2) Shameless Hucksterism http://www.certificationzone.com An excellent study focal point for all levels of certification, as well as the attainment of internetworking expertise. Use my name when you register. You get good study material and I get extra time ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no promt
not that I am one to argue with a CCIE however. I will make an exception.. hehe Hi Brad http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/cisco/mkt/access/1400/prodlit/1401_ov.ht m here is the deal on the 14xx series .. Also it list a console port as says it can be configuredby the console port.. Are you using the pale blue cable ? are you using terraterm if not click on the url below and get a copy..http://www.mcseco-op.com/CiscoStuff.htm Pure speclulation on my part but as this ASDL model is designed for CPE there may be a trick to console in to stop clients from hurting themselves.. Maybe you should call TAC if the above does not work Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/Cheap_Cisco_stuff.htm ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4000 router boot TFTP
Hello, I'm trying to configure my 4000 router to boot from TFTP, but it always boots from flash. I suspect that it's because when it boots up, the ethernet ip address hasn't been up yet. Is there any work around? My 4000 router bootstrap ver is 4.6(4) Here is my config: boot system tftp c4000-js56i-mz.121-2.bin 10.1.1.9 boot system flash Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4000 router boot TFTP
Hi Jim, Usually if your ethernet interface on the 4000 is plugged into a dumb hub, then when you boot up the 4000, it should bring up the ethernet interface pretty fast which should allow the 4000 to talk to the tftp server(10.1.1.9 in your case) right away. Unless you plug your 4000's ethernet interface into one of those catalyst switches( like the 19xx, 29xx, 35xx, etc..), then it takes about 30 seconds for the "autonegotiation" for speed and duplex-mode to sync up. If you're using a catalyst, then an easy way go into the switch and enable spanningtree portfast. Hope it'll help you. Luan T. Kim, MCSE, CCNA* Systems/Network Infrastructure Engineer* MP3.COM, INC. http://www.mp3.com * Phone: 858-623-7341Cell: 858-382-3055 * Fax: 858-623-7400Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Jim Bond wrote: Hello, I'm trying to configure my 4000 router to boot from TFTP, but it always boots from flash. I suspect that it's because when it boots up, the ethernet ip address hasn't been up yet. Is there any work around? My 4000 router bootstrap ver is 4.6(4) Here is my config: boot system tftp c4000-js56i-mz.121-2.bin 10.1.1.9 boot system flash Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return of the Chat Room
Hi all, I've been distracted for a while from the things that really matter... like my website! The Marc Russell Chat Transcript is finally online! View it at: www.allnetllc.net.chat/ciscochat.htm Just click on Marc's name in the schedule area to read the transcript. Also, there is a mail list that you can subscribe to in order to receive messages regarding the chat room schedule and other points of interest regarding the chat site. This will be a low volume list, but it keeps me from annoying Paul with constant posts here regarding my site. Thanks to all for your continued interest in this project! See you in the chat room! Dale [=`) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Layer 3 VS. Layer 2
And don't forget Layer 1 switching (sometimes called routing)! ;-) See http://www.techreview.com/articles/july00/fairley.htm for a well-written article on optical switching. Priscilla At 12:02 PM 7/4/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: "Rodney Jackson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Guys, I need some help. Can someone please explain why Layer 3 Switching is faster than Layer 2 Switching? It seems to me that with L3 the switch would have to go up three layer instead of two. I may have whole concept so please explain. *sigh* the reason you are confused is that layer 3 switching is principally a marketing rather than a technical term. Relaying packets based on layer 3 information is routing. Relaying frames based on layer 2 information is bridging or frame/cell switching. Each of these levels has two components: Path determination May contain dynamic routing protocols Will contain configuration information Stores best paths in a Routing Information Base(RIB) that is optimized for efficient updating May create a Forwarding Information Base (FIB) that is optimized for speed of lookup. Alternatively, the RIB and FIB may be the same. Forwarding Makes forwarding decisions based on the contents of the FIB When hardware assisted and making layer 3 decisions, often is called layer 3 switching So a layer 3 switch is really a hardware-accelerated router. A layer 2 switch is faster than a traditional bridge, under most circumstances, because: It has a very fast internal forwarding fabric interconnecting its ports It uses microsegmentation on its user ports It usually will have a hardware-assisted FIB containing layer 2 information Things are getting more, not less, complex. Multiprotocol label switching (MPLS) or Cisco's tag switching makes forwarding decisions based on a label or tag, usually between the layer 2 and 3 headers. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NAT and BGP
Please use the Desktop (above) version of IOS. tayta wrote: Our IOS running on a 7200 does not support NAT! We are at present running BGP, we need to start running NAT, The question is can you run both BGP and NAT on the same (7200) router ? thanks Tayta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Return of the Chat Room
In a message dated 7/5/00 12:39:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: www.allnetllc.net.chat/ciscochat.htm Sorry friend, the link you dropped is dead ;) Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A "My peers always told me that growing up would have a huge impact on my life... What they didn't tell me is that the size of the impact would knock me on my ass"... ~ Mark Z.~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dial up to 2501 AUX port
Olden, hi! Yes, they are setup properly. It'll give my PC an IP address, DNS server info, etc. The only thing it doesnt seem to get right is the subnet mask. Very strange. I setup dial-up networking on another laptop and it does the same thing. However, this one seems to work with IE5 (I can surf the net). I dont get the whole subnet mask thing. Ive tried just about everything in the book and I still get the classfull subnet mask every time. (I tried different routers, different versions of IOS, etc, same thing every time). Ive tried the async-bootp sub command etc. nada -Brad - Original Message - From: "Olden Pieterse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Brad Ellis'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:15 AM Subject: RE: dial up to 2501 AUX port Hi there Brad Your helper addresses all set up ok ? Cheers Olden -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dial up to 2501 AUX port It is too funny that you posted that. Im working on that scenerio right now. See below for what I have so far. I cant seem to get my workstation to obtain the correct subnet mask. It will connect to my term server's aux port, and it can ping through to UUNET's DNS server, but the darn thing won't surf in IE. Pissing me off. -Brad interface AsyncX ip unnumbered Ethernet0 encapsulation ppp async dynamic address async mode dedicated peer default ip address x.x.x.x ppp authentication pap chap line aux 0 autoselect during-login autoselect ppp login local modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 rxspeed 38400 txspeed 38400 flowcontrol hardware "Jim Bond" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Can someone post a working dial up (from windows 95/NT) to 2501 aux port configuration? I'm not talking about DDR. Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internal T1 WIC
It is common with physical interface frame relay or multipoint that you can't ping your own interface, but I've not seen this with ptp. To make self ping work on phy/mp, add a frame map with your local ip and use any valid dlci. JOE CCIE 5917 ""psuin1997"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8ju360$khb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8ju360$khb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a situation where a 1601 R 12.0 (3) is on ptp frame at frac T with 1 channel assigned...Everything works but I can't ping the private ip using Class A.However the E0 side pings and works fine but can't emulate NAT... Why can't I ping inband on the serial? I have tried numerous settings but to no help.I am using internal T1 WIC and all routes are occuring using ip and ipx..Can see both cdp neigh and both remote Netware servers...I have never seen where you could console in and not ping serial but it would work and route fine... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dial up to 2501 AUX port
Hi there Brad Your helper addresses all set up ok ? Cheers Olden -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dial up to 2501 AUX port It is too funny that you posted that. Im working on that scenerio right now. See below for what I have so far. I cant seem to get my workstation to obtain the correct subnet mask. It will connect to my term server's aux port, and it can ping through to UUNET's DNS server, but the darn thing won't surf in IE. Pissing me off. -Brad interface AsyncX ip unnumbered Ethernet0 encapsulation ppp async dynamic address async mode dedicated peer default ip address x.x.x.x ppp authentication pap chap line aux 0 autoselect during-login autoselect ppp login local modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usr_courier transport input all stopbits 1 rxspeed 38400 txspeed 38400 flowcontrol hardware "Jim Bond" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Can someone post a working dial up (from windows 95/NT) to 2501 aux port configuration? I'm not talking about DDR. Thanks in advance. Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]