RE: 2500 flash and RAM

[Aaron K. Dixon]

They use 72-pin SIMMs.  The x36 represents parity memory.  72 pin SIMMs
provide 32 data bite per cycle plus 4 parity bits which equals 36 bits.
Non-parity SIMMs would be represented by x32.   The 4 is a representation of
the 4 DRAM chips that make-up a 16MB SIMM.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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groupstudy
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Subject: Re: 2500 flash and RAM


  Do you know how many pins are there for a 16M memory for cisco 2501/2514,
coz i was asked this question when in the computer shop .and for a 16M
configuration,according to cisco, it's possible to us proven vendor memory
like Samsun but can any one interpret what the following mean:
  Cisco specified:
16 MB (4 MB x 36, 70 ns DRAM SIMM)
 Hitachi  HB56D436SBR-7AGS
 Hyundai  HYM536410M-70
 Mitsubishi  MH4M36ANXJ-7
 NEC  MC-424000A36BE-70
 Samsung  KMM5364100A-70

above are the approved model of 16M memory ,
what doese 4 MB x 36 mean?


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
I've always had excellent luck and found good prices at www.memoryx.com.  I
haven't checked their prices in a few months, but they should be worth
taking a look at.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2500 flash and RAM


Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the
Cisco
warranty.

Thanks,
Chuck Church
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE

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Re: which router for BCMSN

[Jeff Thompson]

Dave
Here is the info you are looking for.  I pulled this info from the
readme for the IOS 4.x.

Fixed-Configuration Chassis
WS-C2901
WS-C2902
WS-C2926T
WS-C2926F
WS-C2926GS
WS-C2926GL


Modular Chassis
WS-C5000
WS-C5002
WS-C5500
WS-C5505
WS-C5509


Hope this helps

JT




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EF2576A9A885D311A4930090278A3B185C52F6@EXCHANGE">news:EF2576A9A885D311A4930090278A3B185C52F6@EXCHANGE...
 I would like to get a catalyst of my own to practice configuration
 excersizes from the BCMSN (Karen Webb /Cisco Press) book and take the test
 later.  I have access to a 2524, 1602, 2501 routers and limited access to
a
 catalyst 5500.  Anyone know what might be the lowest cost catalyst that
runs
 the same IOS/set commands as a 5500(5000series) catalyst.  I've seen some
 ebay items that say "runs the same IOS as a catalyst 5000"  but only on
the
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RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

[Chuck Larrieu]

Aaron, I've had pretty good luck doing upgrades through Cisco router
software loader. Recently upped my 2501's using the tool. Perhaps
"groupstudy" might consider the download. It's free at
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/rsl

Chuck

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Aaron K. Dixon
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:37 PM
To: groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

Try the method that I listed about booting in boot mode and then doing the
upgrade.  If you're in boot mode a reload won't be necessary.  Are you sure
that you're config-reg is set correctly.  If it's set to 0x2142 the
configuration will be ignored upon reload.  If you do a show start the
config will be there, but not in a show run.  Could you send a show ver?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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groupstudy
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2



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RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

[Aaron K. Dixon]

I've never actually used the software myself.  I still wonder why he is
loosing the config every time the router reloads.  It sounds like the
config-register is either set wrong or he has a hardware problem.

I'll have to try the software loader one of these days.  Thanks for the
link.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 2:20 AM
To: Aaron K. Dixon; groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Aaron, I've had pretty good luck doing upgrades through Cisco router
software loader. Recently upped my 2501's using the tool. Perhaps
"groupstudy" might consider the download. It's free at
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/rsl

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Aaron K. Dixon
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:37 PM
To: groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

Try the method that I listed about booting in boot mode and then doing the
upgrade.  If you're in boot mode a reload won't be necessary.  Are you sure
that you're config-reg is set correctly.  If it's set to 0x2142 the
configuration will be ignored upon reload.  If you do a show start the
config will be there, but not in a show run.  Could you send a show ver?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 

passed CCNA.. now what? any recommendations?

[Luther]

Hi I recently passed CCNA v1.0 .. and was wondering if anyone could help me
interms of what I should be doing next? I gather CCNP v2.0 is the most
logical step I should be taking. Which exam should I take first? .. and what
text books can anyone recommend to me?

For my CCNA i used:

1. CCNA by Sybex (i didnt like this book very much)
2. Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices by Cisco Press - I loved this
book!.. yes I know this is geared towards CCNA v2.0.. but I found it
excellent in my studies for v1.0 (which i scored 925/1000 on).

I really prefer to invest my money in cisco press books from now on..

Any advice?

Many thanks
Luther
CCNA, MCSE


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please remove me off the list

[Ashley Tyrne Pdua]

Hi,

  Could you please remove my name of the groupstudy list.

Thanks,

Ashley

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Cisco ATM WAN URLs

[John lay]

Guys,

I need Cisco URLs concerning ATM WAN, which explain PVCs, Auto route,

Thanks a lot





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RE: Passed Switching Today!

[Dinesh_Kakkar]

Hello Vincent,

Can you tell me which books you are using for CCNP 2.0 track  from where
you got those books.
Please reply 

Dinesh
CCNA, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Satyam Computer services Ltd.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Passed Switching Today!

Dear all;

Thanks for the group provide me information for my exam.
And
Support 2.0 will be my last one
toward my CCNP.  Anyone has any information related to support 2.0,
I will
greatly appreciate.
Under the agreement of Cisco.

Thanks in advacne
Vincent Chong
3/4 CCNP Now...



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Re: Cisco Online test.

[henry]

Each exam you can use six times.
many qiz is real qiz!
I use is prepare CVOICE, 60% qizs is same.

Henry Zheng
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 Requires CCO id.
 http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/colt/ColtLogin.pl

 Anyone tried that?
 Ryan


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Re: 802.3 frame and full-duplex

[Atif Awan]

In fact SD stands for start of frame delimiter. It is an essential component
of the synchronization process alongwith the preamble.

Regards
Atif

To: Stephen Ede [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: 802.3 frame and full-duplex


Stephen,

First, SD is the last octet of the preamble.  You get 7 octets of 0x55 and
the final octet is 0xD5 which is signaling the start of the Data Link
frame,
hence SD.

On the switch question, if port A,B, and C are sending packets to port D I
think that the output queue on D would accumulate the packets if the
offered
load is greater than the link's capacity.  However, the queue is not
infinite and eventually you will have to start dropping packets.

Jeff Humphreys


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From: Stephen Ede [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:28 PM
Subject: 802.3 frame and full-duplex


 I have 2 questions to submit here...

 1)  If there are several nodes attached to a 10/100 switch, and all NICs
are
 in full duplex mode, this means that CSMA/CD is not in effect, loopback
is
 turned off, and any station can transmit and receive concurrently.  But
what
 happens when 2 or 3 of these stations want to transmit to one particular
 station concurrently?  Is the traffic buffered in the switch?  Or is
CSMA/CD
 still in effect, even in full duplex mode, where they will sense the wire
 and wait if busy?

 2)  In the diagram below of an 802.3 frame, what does the "SD" potion
 signify?

 | Preamble | SD | Dest. Add. | Source Add. | Length | DSAP | SSAP |
Control
 | Data | FCS |

 Thank you in advance.

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Re: TR supports multicast !!

[Atif Awan]

The CCIE is right :) ... In fact there is no 
specification of multicast addresses in Token Ring and they ARE implemented with 
what they call Functional Addresses.


Regards
Atif

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Mohammed Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
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Sunday, July 30, 2000 3:39 AMSubject: TR supports multicast 
!!
Hello group,

About my last question: Does the Token Ring 
(IEEE 802.5) support Multicasts (sending packets to a group of devices) 
..
I have two answre saying yes, i have asked an 
CCIE .. he told me:

TR does not do multicast, IBM or IEEE.  It 
does use functional addresses kinda like multicast, butthere's a 
verylimited set of these. IOS doc from Cisco on HSRP on Token Ring has 
some related material.

Now i have 2 answers .. any one can help 
..
Thanks

Mohammed Hakim - 
CCNA

CCNA books Sybex or Cisco press ?

[ian gomeche]

Luther wrote:

Subject: passed CCNA.. now what? any recommendations?

Hi I recently passed CCNA v1.0 .. and was wondering if anyone could help me
interms of what I should be doing next? I gather CCNP v2.0 is the most
logical step I should be taking. Which exam should I take first? .. and what
text books can anyone recommend to me?

For my CCNA i used:

1. CCNA by Sybex (i didnt like this book very much)
2. Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices by Cisco Press - I loved this
book!.. yes I know this is geared towards CCNA v2.0.. but I found it
excellent in my studies for v1.0 (which i scored 925/1000 on).

I really prefer to invest my money in cisco press books from now on..

--

Well that is an interesting observation Luther. As someone who has just
ordered the Sybex Lammle CCNA study guide (latest 507 edition note folks) ,
exam guide and e-lab simulator thing, I was very interested in what Luther
had to say.

I have now ordered the CISCO press internetworking book as well but am
thinking of cancelling Lammle's books. Perhaps I should stick with both as I
am sure each has useful stuff in which the other does not have and  a lot of
people seem to rate Lammle

Any comments anyone on the relative merits of the two books?

Thanks everyone.

BTW someone (i won't say who but he knows) posted what a star he was for
passing CCNA ...in HTML  therefore also telling the whole list what a
pillock he is.

Hint hint everyone

Ian



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In defence of Brad

[ian gomeche]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
"Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'

-

I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a
list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.

It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed
to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous
postings.

Point made perhaps?

ian





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Re: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[mickey_larson_2000]

I applogize, I was thinking of a hyothetical 
situation. I am not sure if this ever could occur since I unseasoned in the 
Cisco area.

The main reason I wanted to find this out was that 
I was thinking in situations where someone's outside link to the Internet in 
their office  was a Cable or DSL modem. In some of cases I know it is hard to 
obtaina static IP address assigned. 

Now normally what you could do if from the cable 
modem or DSL modem, go to the back of your computer and set the computer to 
obtain an address from DHCP. Then I started looking at the PIX506 or 1720 which 
seems like a low-end small office box for these type of small business 
environments and thought a box like this seems to be geared for these kind sof 
situations should be able to use DHCP on a interface---almost like a the Linksys 
Cable Modem/DSL Router for home user/networks.

Wouldn't the remote sites need a cisco box at their 
site as their default gateway if they wanted to establish VPN sessions back to a 
central site?

Remote:  





   Centeral:

|cable||e0 - ethernet dhcp {Cisco-box} e1 - 
static|---|internal-net| 
|T1|---|traditonal cisco router setup||internal-net|





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  From: 
  Dave Swink 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 11:58 
  AM
  Subject: RE: assign dhcp address on 
  ethernet interface?
  
  Mickey,
  
  I 
  don't think there is a way to do this. I am hard pressed to figure out 
  why you would want to do this. Any static routes (including default 
  gateway settings on your hosts) you have created to the interface would be 
  ruinedevery time the interface picked up a new IP address. This 
  would especially create havoc on the inside interface of a 
  PIX.
  
  Please drop me a line if you find out how to do 
  it. Also, an explanation of what you are trying to do with it would be 
  appreciated if you have time.
  
  Dave 
  Swink
  
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AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: assign dhcp address 
on ethernet interface?

I want an Ethernet interface on a router to get 
it's IP address for DHCP. Is this possible? How about on a PIX ethernet 
interface?

3102 memory

[Pete]

Does anyone know what memory upgrade I need for a 3012 so I can flash it
with ios 11 + ?
If you know or have the necessary memory please email me.

Sincerely,
Peter Kurdziel
CCNA,MCSE,MCP+I,MCP

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RE: passed CCNA.. now what? any recommendations?

[Tuline, Andrew]

I'd take the CCDA next.  The new CiscoPress CCDA book has a CD as well.

It's one exam and you get a certification for it!!


-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: passed CCNA.. now what? any recommendations?


Hi I recently passed CCNA v1.0 .. and was wondering if anyone could help me
interms of what I should be doing next? I gather CCNP v2.0 is the most
logical step I should be taking. Which exam should I take first? .. and what
text books can anyone recommend to me?

For my CCNA i used:

1. CCNA by Sybex (i didnt like this book very much)
2. Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices by Cisco Press - I loved this
book!.. yes I know this is geared towards CCNA v2.0.. but I found it
excellent in my studies for v1.0 (which i scored 925/1000 on).

I really prefer to invest my money in cisco press books from now on..

Any advice?

Many thanks
Luther
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Re: Cisco ATM WAN URLs

[Annlee Hines]

A good place to start is at CCO, do a search on ATM. I found:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2008.htm

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/atm.htm

adding PVC to the search criteria turned up a bunch more, like PPP over ATM:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/120
limit/120dc/120dc3/pppoe.htm

watch out for the wrap, of course

Annlee

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 I need Cisco URLs concerning ATM WAN, which explain PVCs, Auto route,

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Re: where do live

[Annlee Hines]

Dallas is exploding--prices are moderate. Winter is mild (to someone who
grew up in the Midwest) and the summers are hot but everyone lives inside
A/C. Cisco's hiring 4000 more people in the next 4 years in Richardson (a
suburb, Telecom Corridor)--and going head-to-head with Nortel, which is also
hiring. Pay is obviously competitive.

It's pretty durn good here.

Annlee Hines
Systems Engineer
Global Data Readiness
Nortel Networks
"Jim Bond" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hello,

 I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
 tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
 sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
 highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
 moving out of silicon valley bay area.

 Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
 winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
 much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
 difficult to find such a place, but close?

 Thanks in advance.


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Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[Annlee Hines]

The NNCSS for the Passport 7000 was 100 question (plus #1 are you ready to
take the test and #2 do you accept the NDA--total =102, 100 real questions).
Some were multiple choice, some T/F--and those aren't necessarily easy
(anything wrong makes it false, even if 9/10 of it is true). Radio button
questions have only one answer, check boxes have 1 possible...but not
necessarily 1 correct answer. There are no fill in the blank. Passing is
80. The question difficulty is more than MS, maybe a little less than the 2
Cisco exams I've sat (CCNA and CCDA). The questions were by and large
straightforward, no subtle little tricky phrasings. Some questions require
you to understand a topology diagram--what's wrong with the addressing
scheme, why can't A communicate with B, etc.

I can't think of any more general info--specifics are out of bounds, of
course.

HTH

Annlee
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 I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !

 Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
 Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
 I am gonna take the eam very soon.

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Re: no access to router

[groupstudy]

Hi, i am not using flow control on the laptop and i am sure the lap top is
ok ,I can get access to the other 2514 using same cable and same laptop
without problem .
  some people said it is possible to use aux via a null modem cable , can
you specify a little bit more in detail??
Thanks

neal rauhauser wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]...

   Sounds like you have flow control enabled on the PC port you're using to
connect to the router.



groupstudy wrote:

 too bad , i will throw my 2503 out of window ,kiding..,thanks anyway
 ElephantChild wrote in message ...
 On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, groupstudy wrote:
 
 I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that
i
 can
  see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
  unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
 
 Do the same cable and terminal emulator work with other routers? If tey
 do, check that the cable is properly seated and that there isn't dirt in
 the console port on the router. If it still doesn't work, the router
 may be set up for software flow control, or hardware flow control, or
 none at all. Try fiddling with the flow control setup on your terminal
 emulator and see what happens.
 
 If you have a null modem cable, you may also try the aux port.
 
my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router
without
  getting access to the console port is possible ??
 
 No.
 
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Off topic Nortel Certifications

[John lay]

Hi,

I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !

Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
I am gonna take the eam very soon.

Thanx





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Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE

[Paul Borghese]

I agree.  I am working on software that filters the MIME encoded messages
only allowing for Plain-Text.  Remember, this form only allows messages
below 10K.  If you are sending in HTML format you are close to tripling the
size of the original message.  So fokes that send in HTML format are only
permitted to send very short messages before being blocked.

Paul Borghese
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To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 6:50 AM
Subject: IMPORTANT NOTICE


 right thats got your attention!


 as interesting and useful that this list is, it would be a lot more damn
 useful and interesting if people would STOP posting in HTML. it takes ages
 to scroll through all the HTML garbage in the digest. if people do not
 understand why posting in HTML is bad news or understand how to switch
their
 mail client to plain text, then they really do not have a cats chance in
 hell of doing anything 'tricky' like passing a CISCO cert!

 i refer you to the guidelines for this list. the second part is also worth
 noting as again people who do not understand how to edit emails are hoping
 to become CISCO stars!

 ian

 'Always send messages in plain text, not HTML format.  Not everyone has an
 HTML enabled mail client.
 Always edit your quoted replies to the bare essential.  Do not quote the
 entire message including the signature.  This just waste bandwidth. '


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Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...

[Paul Borghese]

We do not sell the mailing list addresses to anyone.  Of course it is very
difficult to stop someone from subscribing to the list and copying any
e-mail address that posts.  But in a few weeks I will have an answer for
that as well.

Paul Borghese

- Original Message -
From: "Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "whatshakin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...


 Hi Gang-O-Mine
 One thing that I have been getting since posting here is private email
 from headhunters and various companies trying to sell me network related
 equipment and services.
 Since this is the only network related group that I belong to somebody
 out there must be copying email addresses. Hmm
 This seems to be a result of being an open group and the delete key
 works just fine.

 As long as any Cisco certification related questions have something in
 the subject line indicating that's what they are then I personally see
 no problem here. (The delete key again.)

 I see these type of questions as being that of a frightened future
 CCXX's wanting to know what to expect. We've all been there! I'm there
 now with an exam tomorrow morning, Saturday.
 Having this list or newsgroup for technical Cisco related inquiries and
 reference only is all well and good but that is up to the administrator.

 Personally I find holding the position of mentor to be feeding a
 starving Karma.


  whatshakin wrote:
 
  From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification
  related questions I see with a blunt:
  etc.
 --
 Natasha Flazynski

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 My Cisco information site.
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 Artificial Intelligence and Linux development
 
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its register problem!!

[groupstudy]

Hi Group
   I found that the reg was somehow changed to 0x2142 and that 's why i lost
the config every time it reboots.  I used to think it might be a problem of
NVRAM because this is a very old router while didn't check the nvram .
   Now the problem is solved. Thanks for all your help .


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
I've never actually used the software myself.  I still wonder why he is
loosing the config every time the router reloads.  It sounds like the
config-register is either set wrong or he has a hardware problem.

I'll have to try the software loader one of these days.  Thanks for the
link.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 2:20 AM
To: Aaron K. Dixon; groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Aaron, I've had pretty good luck doing upgrades through Cisco router
software loader. Recently upped my 2501's using the tool. Perhaps
"groupstudy" might consider the download. It's free at
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/rsl

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Aaron K. Dixon
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 10:37 PM
To: groupstudy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

Try the method that I listed about booting in boot mode and then doing the
upgrade.  If you're in boot mode a reload won't be necessary.  Are you sure
that you're config-reg is set correctly.  If it's set to 0x2142 the
configuration will be ignored upon reload.  If you do a show start the
config will be there, but not in a show run.  Could you send a show ver?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can
not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with
the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash
partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries
to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity
to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 

CNR

[Muralidhar A.]

Hi 

Has anyone worked with CNR 3.5... i need to place a soultion on this.. could
anyone give me technical links on this product of Cisco...  i searched but
all i could get were marketing stuff.. and not much on tech side..

regards,
Murali

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Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

John lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi,

I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !

Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
I am gonna take the eam very soon.

Thanx


Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in 
developing one certification exam so far, although the particular 
product was cancelled.  I am involved in internal conversations about 
the direction and value of certifications.

At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented 
(that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier 
presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions 
were definitely technical.  There was an education/certification 
manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so 
experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior 
level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product 
architecture (me).

I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in 
Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site.  Nothing 
definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of 
interest.

Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level 
architect, are rather different than Cisco's model.  They rely less 
on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of 
medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real 
networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be 
evaluated by a panel of experts.

I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to 
make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that 
there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not 
tormenting them unnecessarily.

"What Problem are you trying to solve?"
***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
directly to me***

Howard C. Berkowitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID only)
   but Cisco stockholder!
"retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005

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RE: CNR

[Chuck Larrieu]

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/rtrmgmt/ciscoasu/nr/nr3-5/

about three minutes of looking on CCO revealed this one. Looks like the
product documentation

HTH

Chuck

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Muralidhar A.
Sent:   Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:57 AM
To: cisco freinds
Subject:CNR

Hi

Has anyone worked with CNR 3.5... i need to place a soultion on this.. could
anyone give me technical links on this product of Cisco...  i searched but
all i could get were marketing stuff.. and not much on tech side..

regards,
Murali

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CCNA 2.0

[Muhammad Tariq]

Hi,
I want to know that the Cisco CCNA Exam #640-507 Certification Guide (by
Wendell Odom) is sufficient to pass the exam?.

Regards

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Re: where do live

[Avran]

Orlando Florida is the best place. $500 will give you a good apt. .  Few
days in summer are hot but the rest is great.  Never cold, snow is a dream,
people are generally excited about life, and a lot of jobs.  Good luck.

Jim Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hello,

 I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
 tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
 sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
 highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
 moving out of silicon valley bay area.

 Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
 winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
 much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
 difficult to find such a place, but close?

 Thanks in advance.


 Jim


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Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[John lay]

What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous...
No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention
anything that was related to my concerns.
If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you
are doing some publicity to yourself on the web 
Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic.

Thanks a lot

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

  John lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !
  
  Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
  Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
  I am gonna take the eam very soon.
  
  Thanx
  
  
  Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in 
  developing one certification exam so far, although the particular 
  product was cancelled.  I am involved in internal conversations about 
  the direction and value of certifications.
  
  At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented 
  (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier 
  presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions 
  were definitely technical.  There was an education/certification 
  manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so 
  experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior 
  level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product 
  architecture (me).
  
  I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in 
  Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site.  Nothing 
  definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of 
  interest.
  
  Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level 
  architect, are rather different than Cisco's model.  They rely less 
  on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of 
  medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real 
  networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be 
  evaluated by a panel of experts.
  
  I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to 
  make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that 
  there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not 
  tormenting them unnecessarily.
  
  "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
  ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
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Re: 3102 memory

[John Hardman]

Humm... I assume from the subject line you mean the 3102 router...

Any of the old 8MB or 16MB flash sims will work. If you want to use the
newer AMD flash that is in the 2500's then you will need to upgrade the boot
ROMs.

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RE: where do live

[Matt C. Lange]

South Central Los Angelas, or Gary Indiana,  hehehehe : * )

-Original Message-
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William E Gragido
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 3:48 AM
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Subject: RE: where do live


San Diego brother, San Diego

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jim Bond
 Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: where do live
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
 tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
 sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
 highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
 moving out of silicon valley bay area.
 
 Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
 winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
 much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
 difficult to find such a place, but close?
 
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Re: CCNA 2.0

[Pere Pla]

Muhammad,

I have just passed this exam and I would recommend the book "Interconnecting
Cisco Network Devices" from Cisco Press.

Good luck!

Pere Pla, CCNA.


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 I want to know that the Cisco CCNA Exam #640-507 Certification Guide (by
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CISCO Premier partner

[ian gomeche]

 i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
myself
 or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc  then i
would be
 eligible
 to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my letterhead.

 this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would get
 special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.

 i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO U.K.
but i
 do not seem to have found out much more.

 does anyone know anything about this?

 regards

 ian gomeche



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Re: CCNA 2.0

[Mohammed Hakim]

Yes it is enough

Mohammed Hakim / CCNA

- Original Message - 
From: Muhammad Tariq [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cisoc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:34 PM
Subject: CCNA 2.0


 Hi,
 I want to know that the Cisco CCNA Exam #640-507 Certification Guide (by
 Wendell Odom) is sufficient to pass the exam?.
 
 Regards
 
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Fw: flaming idiot

[ian gomeche]

 - Original Message -
 From: "Mohammed Hakim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:26 PM
 Subject: Re: idiot


  #@$%*(%*(#%
 
  - Original Message -
  From: ian gomeche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: mhakim5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 1:17 PM
  Subject: idiot
 
 
   it is one thing telling the whole CISCO certification list you are a
   superstar for passing CCNA, but by doing it in HTML after i have asked
   everyone not to and the list guidelines tell you not to, just tells
the
   whole list what a pillock you must be. i am sending you this privately
 as
  i
   do not wish to humiliate you on the list. next time i will post to the
  list
   about this.
  
   would YOU really want to read all this tripe?
  
   thought not..
  
   ian gomeche
  
   Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:26:34 +0300
   From: "Mohammed Hakim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: TR supports multicast !!
  
   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  
   - --=_NextPart_000_0021_01BFF9C5.330E1E20
   Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset="windows-1256"
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  
   Hello group,
  
   About my last question: Does the Token Ring (IEEE 802.5) support =
   Multicasts (sending packets to a group of devices) ..
   I have two answre saying yes, i have asked an CCIE .. he told me:
  
   TR does not do multicast, IBM or IEEE.  It does use functional =
   addresses kinda like multicast, butthere's a very
   limited set of these. IOS doc from Cisco on HSRP on Token Ring has
some
 =
   related material.
  
   Now i have 2 answers .. any one can help ..
   Thanks
  
   Mohammed Hakim - CCNA
  
  
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   charset="windows-1256"
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  
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   META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1256" =
   http-equiv=3DContent-Type
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   BODY bgColor=3D#ff
   DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hello group,/FONT/DIV
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IEEE.
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    It does=20
   use functional addresses kinda like multicast, butthere's a =
   veryBRlimited set=20
   of these. IOS doc from Cisco on HSRP on Token Ring has some related=20
   material./FONT/DIV
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RE: CISCO Premier partner

[Matt C. Lange]

what is ccse

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
ian gomeche
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:24 PM
To: cisco
Subject: CISCO Premier partner





 i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
myself
 or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc  then i
would be
 eligible
 to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my letterhead.

 this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would get
 special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.

 i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO U.K.
but i
 do not seem to have found out much more.

 does anyone know anything about this?

 regards

 ian gomeche



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Re: CISCO Premier partner

[Kevin Wigle]

If all you want to accomplish at this stage is to get a better logo than the
CCNx stuff (and who wouldn't), then just apply to be a Cisco Reseller.

Cisco Reseller is the bottom rung in the reseller/partner ladder.  No
certifications are required.  You fill out an application on CCO and send it
in.  I guess certifications would help but essentially I think Cisco just
looks at your answers overall and makes a very quick yes/no decision.  I
haven't heard of anyone that was denied (but then they probably wouldn't
broadcast it).  There is no revenue commitment with this level of reseller.

Once you're a Reseller you can use the Reseller logo which at least has the
identifiable 'bridge" on it as well with the words "Cisco Systems" above it
and "Reseller" below it.

I think your info on what it takes to become Premier Partner is incorrect.
You cannot hold all three certifications.  It takes at least two people.  I
have the brochure in front of me now and it says in part "The CCDA can be
the same person as the Sales Expert or the CCNA" - but not both.

Also, at this level - a Revenue commitment is required.  Don't know the
details there.

You also need to provide:
- 8 hrs/day, 5 days/week, 24 hour response capability
- 8 hours/day, 5 days/week phone support
- Installation and configuration capabilities
- Cisco solution demo capability

This info is for the United States, the brochure says requirements in other
countries may vary.

Good luck

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP


- Original Message -
From: "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 15:23
Subject: CISCO Premier partner





  i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
 myself
  or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc  then
i
 would be
  eligible
  to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my
letterhead.
 
  this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would get

  special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.
 
  i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO U.K.
 but i
  do not seem to have found out much more.
 
  does anyone know anything about this?
 
  regards
 
  ian gomeche
 
 

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RE: CISCO Premier partner

[vlan 2]

Cisco Certified Sales Expert.



what is ccse



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Re: CISCO Premier partner

[Kevin Wigle]

Actually, the acronym should read - "CSE" for Cisco Sales Expert.

The self-paced training courses for the designation are available free from
Cisco.  There are two different "tracks" - Small to Medium Business (SMB)
and Enterprise (ENT)

Courses can be ordered at www.cisco.com/go/salestrain

You take the test on-line at www.certification.net/cisco ($35 US)

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP..

- Original Message -
From: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 10:30
Subject: RE: CISCO Premier partner


 what is ccse

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 ian gomeche
 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:24 PM
 To: cisco
 Subject: CISCO Premier partner





  i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
 myself
  or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc  then
i
 would be
  eligible
  to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my
letterhead.
 
  this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would get
  special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.
 
  i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO U.K.
 but i
  do not seem to have found out much more.
 
  does anyone know anything about this?
 
  regards
 
  ian gomeche
 
 

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CCNA version 2.0

[Barry Marthaler]

Kind of fuzzy on how many questions and passing score for CCNA version 2.0
exam.  Can anyone elighten me on this? thanks


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CertificationZone.com

[Marco Rodrigues]

Has anyone used this webpage before.. Are their white pages worth
the purchase? Will the information be usefull after I get my CCNA and
want to pursue the CCNP 2.0 track? Any Feedback would be appreciated. 

Thanks!

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RE: CertificationZone.com

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Certificationzone.com is an excellent resource for cisco certifications.  I
believe that they are working on a CCNP section, but many of the white
papers in both the CCNA and CCIE zone are relevant.  I used the site to
prepare for my CCIE written and my actual score was within 5 points of what
I received with Certificationzone's simulated exam.  After, I joined we had
a number of people interested at work and they ended up saving some money by
getting a group membership so if you have other co-workers studying you may
want to look at the pricing.  I paid full price and it has been worth every
cent.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Marco Rodrigues
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 3:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CertificationZone.com


Has anyone used this webpage before.. Are their white pages worth
the purchase? Will the information be usefull after I get my CCNA and
want to pursue the CCNP 2.0 track? Any Feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks!

--
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Re: Cisco ATM WAN URLs

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

Guys,

I need Cisco URLs concerning ATM WAN, which explain PVCs, Auto route,

Thanks a lot


http://www.cisco.com, and search on ATM PVCs and ATM routing.

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Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

John lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote



What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous...

sorta kinda, I guess. The list can judge.

No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention
anything that was related to my concerns.

Your concerns being the inability to search Nortel's site and find 
http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/framework.html
perhaps?  And that there are multiple exams involved in NNCDS, so 
there is no simple answer to your question?

Hint:  Nortel does expect certified people to be able to do basic web searches.

Oh...you'll also find Nortel offers a good deal of free study 
material for its basic certifications.

If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you
are doing some publicity to yourself on the web 
Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic.

Let me get this straight. You posted a question that you said is off 
topic, dealing with Nortel. A senior manager at Nortel answered you. 
You flamed for the answer not being on topic.

What would have been on topic from your perspective?  Cisco's 
analysis of Nortel exams?


Thanks a lot

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

John lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
Hi,

I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !

Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
I am gonna take the eam very soon.

Thanx

  
Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in
developing one certification exam so far, although the particular
product was cancelled.  I am involved in internal conversations about
the direction and value of certifications.
  
At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented
(that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier
presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions
were definitely technical.  There was an education/certification
manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so
experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior
level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product
architecture (me).
  
I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in
Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site.  Nothing
definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of
interest.
  
Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level
architect, are rather different than Cisco's model.  They rely less
on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of
medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real
networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be
evaluated by a panel of experts.
  
I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to
make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that
there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not
tormenting them unnecessarily.
  
"What Problem are you trying to solve?"
***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
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Re: In defence of Brad

[Dick Silva]

/
I second the motion supporting Brad.
\
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To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:52 AM
Subject: In defence of Brad


On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:24:52 -0400
"Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


'In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.'

-

I would agree with Chuck. Nothing wrong with a little self promotion from a
list regular (as opposed to unsolicited spam from an outsider). I think by
helping others, Brad is deserving of a little 'slack' from some of you.

It takes a microsecond (or so) to skip over a discreete 'advert' as opposed
to much longer to skip over HTML junk and repeated large chunks of previous
postings.

Point made perhaps?

ian





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Re: Compression compatibility

[Billha]

I recommend using hardware compression modules on both 2620 and 7206 as this
will not impact router cpu.  However, don't think compression modules are
supported in 7206.


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 On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Cisco Wave wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  We are running at 90%, and we need to use compression
  on a T1 link.

 Your routers cpu is running at 90%?  Or your link is at 90%?  Either way,
 you are in not to good of shape.



  Which one will provide the best results : Predictor,
  Pay,load, or Stac ?
  I heard that Predictor was better, but please advice
  me.
 
  Also, do you know if there are incompatibilities
  between IOS versions ?
  Do all the following IOS use the same algorithm, are
  they compatible for compression ?
  One cisco 2620 is running 12.0(5).T1 and the other end
  is a cisco 7206 running 11.2(16)P.
 
  Is there any hardware issue, one side is using
  PowerQUICC Serial, and the other one is using M4T
  hardware ?
 
  Thank you for your help.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??

[tcpipppp]

Chuck,

The following URL gives info on this.  See specifically: "Table 2-6:
Catalyst 1900 and Catalyst 2820 VTP Modes"  The summary of this information
is that it depends on the VTP mode in which the switch is operating.  If the
switch is a VTP server, then it can have up to 128 VLANs.  If it is in
transparent mode, it is still 128 VLANs.  As a VTP client, it can learn up
to 1005 VLANs.  I think the 64 number might be from an older revision of the
software.  I only looked at the version 9 docs:

General Documentation:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/

VLAN Documentation:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/28201900/1928v9x/ee_scg/
1vlans.htm

You may have to unwrap the URL's.

Kent.

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 Now I am confused.  I have been lurking here for some time.  My Cisco
 Products Guide says that the 1912 supports "up to four overlapping bridge
 groups or 1024 ISL VLANs.  Where did the "64" number come from?  Do I
 understand that the 1912 has support for four VLANs on its own and up to
 1024 through ISL?

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Re: CCNA version 2.0

[Ciscoccnprulz]

65q with a 822 score to pass

David Cooper
CCNP/CCDP

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Re: CCNA version 2.0

[Mohammed Hakim]

65 questions, 105 min.

Good luck
Mohammed Hakim / CCNA

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 Kind of fuzzy on how many questions and passing score for CCNA version 2.0
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Re: CCNA 2.0

[Mohammed Hakim]

Yes, should use both the ICND (Cisco Press) and the Study Giude (640-507)
give more information.

Good luck :)
Mohammed Hakim / CCNA

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 Muhammad,

 I have just passed this exam and I would recommend the book
"Interconnecting
 Cisco Network Devices" from Cisco Press.

 Good luck!

 Pere Pla, CCNA.


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Nortel Exams

[Dick Silva]

/
I think Howard's thoughts about having another groupstudy for Nortel would
certainly be interesting.

And I am sure that a number of certified CCXX's would also be interested in
pursuing Nortel certs.  Sometimes just notice the various certs that follow
the names of many that post on the Cisco groupstudy
-
"Just an old dog trying to learn new tricks".
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Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[james]

Hi John,

I'm posting this to the group for others that have the same question.

There is no specific exam for the Nortel NNCDS.  Rather you need to do one
of the core technology exam  for the NNCSS and then  do the Nortel web based
exams from home ( or elsewhere)  to fullfill the other requirements.  See
http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncds.html for more
info.

The Nortel design exam is for the next level of certification, the NNCDE (
design expert). To get that you need to do the NNCDS, plus:  one advanced
exam, one more core technology exam  and the design exam.
See http://www12.nortelnetworks.com/training2/certification/nncde.html for
more info on that one.  So if you mean you were planning to write the design
expert exam 920-021 ( Network Design Essentials for Routers and Switches)
you would not be certified as anything.  Just a heads up.

James Placer CCDP, CCNP, NNCSE, NNCSS, MCSE
ENTG Engineer
Interactive Business Systems Inc.
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 Hi,

 I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !

 Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
 Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
 I am gonna take the eam very soon.

 Thanx




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RE: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[Albert Ip]

John,

How long have you been on the list?  I had been here for over 10 months. If
you don't know Howard Berkowitz, then you don't know the good people on the
list.  I had grown tried of people like you and now only read post of select
people.  I ALWAYS read his post.  He had written 3 books.  He was/is on
various IETF working group.  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?  Guest what HE IS FAMOUS.
You will only be famous for your stupidity.

Albert Ip
CCNP CCDA MCSE
Kazootek.com
Senior Network Administrator


Howard,

Thanks again for all your help over the last months (not just to me but
everyone on the list).  I just finish the address book and is starting on
the design book next. 


OH, John.  If you want to learn something, go read Howard's old post in the
archive.


-Original Message-
From: John lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:13 AM
To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Off topic Nortel Certifications


What is it? You gave me the feeling that you are someone very famous...
No, I will not come back to you because frankly speaking you didn't mention
anything that was related to my concerns.
If you haven't anything to say concerning my question just ignore it, or you
are doing some publicity to yourself on the web 
Sorry again guys to discuss something off topic.

Thanks a lot

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:58:46 -0400, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

  John lay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !
  
  Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
  Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
  I am gonna take the eam very soon.
  
  Thanx
  
  
  Not speaking officially for Nortel here, but I have been involved in 
  developing one certification exam so far, although the particular 
  product was cancelled.  I am involved in internal conversations about 
  the direction and value of certifications.
  
  At least for the one that I worked on, which was product-oriented 
  (that may change) and a first-level design certification for carrier 
  presales, the majority of people that wrote and discussed questions 
  were definitely technical.  There was an education/certification 
  manager concerned with quality, a tech writer, and about six or so 
  experts including presales SEs, postsales support at a very senior 
  level (think Cisco NSA with some research of their own), and product 
  architecture (me).
  
  I've informally discussed with Paul, and started to bring up in 
  Nortel, the idea of adding a Nortel track to the site.  Nothing 
  definite yet, but I certainly would like to assess the level of 
  interest.
  
  Design certifications at Nortel, especially the third-level 
  architect, are rather different than Cisco's model.  They rely less 
  on computer-administered exams and more on a model such as that of 
  medical specialty certification -- presenting case studies of real 
  networks you have built, and then an open-book design that will be 
  evaluated by a panel of experts.
  
  I can't get into too much detail, but Nortel is working internally to 
  make its certification process even smoother. It does appear that 
  there's a corporate style of helping the certification candidate, not 
  tormenting them unnecessarily.
  
  "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
  ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not 
  directly to me***
  
  Howard C. Berkowitz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
  Senior Product Manager, Carrier Packet Solutions, NortelNetworks (for ID
only)
 but Cisco stockholder!
  "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
  
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Re: where do live

[Paul Borghese]

This discussion should be on the Jobs list,  not on the Cert list.  Please
move it over to that list.

Paul
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 South Central Los Angelas, or Gary Indiana,  hehehehe : * )

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 San Diego brother, San Diego

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  Jim Bond
  Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: where do live
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
  tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
  sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
  highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
  moving out of silicon valley bay area.
 
  Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
  winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
  much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
  difficult to find such a place, but close?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
 
  Jim
 
 
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Re: CISCO Premier partner

[Kevin Wigle]

and to reply to my own reply...

I just took and finished the CSE exam a few minutes ago as I thought - $35 -
let's take a look.

Same problem with other exams - a few questions didn't have a right answer,
but you have to pick one - like which of these switches is stackable (we're
paraphrasing here a lot here folks)
checked the product catalogue and none of the choices are stackable.  oh
well, pick one.

Anyway, I passed so now I'm also a CSE - whooppee - I guess.  After
CCDP/CCNP don't think this one is quite as important.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP. (CSE)  - ha!

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Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 16:50
Subject: Re: CISCO Premier partner


 Actually, the acronym should read - "CSE" for Cisco Sales Expert.

 The self-paced training courses for the designation are available free
from
 Cisco.  There are two different "tracks" - Small to Medium Business (SMB)
 and Enterprise (ENT)

 Courses can be ordered at www.cisco.com/go/salestrain

 You take the test on-line at www.certification.net/cisco ($35 US)

 Kevin Wigle
 CCDP/CCNP..

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 Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 10:30
 Subject: RE: CISCO Premier partner


  what is ccse
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  ian gomeche
  Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:24 PM
  To: cisco
  Subject: CISCO Premier partner
 
 
 
 
 
   i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
  myself
   or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc
then
 i
  would be
   eligible
   to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my
 letterhead.
  
   this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would
get
   special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.
  
   i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO
U.K.
  but i
   do not seem to have found out much more.
  
   does anyone know anything about this?
  
   regards
  
   ian gomeche
  
  
 
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Re: CCNA books Sybex or Cisco press ?

[Douglas James Howe]

Personally I am studying to take the CCNA WAN Switching exam next fall, were
some of the material learned will cross over to the CCNP WAN Switching exam
for specialization after completion of the CCNP exams.  I have heard a good
place to start studing for the CCNP exams is the BSCN.  I figure I will
study the old ACRC books by Cisco Press and Todd Lamle, then save up and buy
the other newer books.  I am also going to buy the older CLSC book since I
know that has good material in it.


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CCNA jobs

[Stephane Wantou Siantou]

Hello everybody,
I just passed my CCNA.  I wonder what the job opportunities are
for CCNA's and where do I find them?  Can anybody help me with this?



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Book Review

[Cisco]

Any comments on this book?
Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs
Written by: Bruce Caslow
Format: Hardcover, 840pp.
ISBN: 0130825379
Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR
Pub. Date: December 1998

Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE



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RE: Off topic Nortel Certifications

[Irwin Lazar]

see: http://www.nortelnetworks.com/servsup/certification/

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Off topic Nortel Certifications
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I know this is out of the list objectives, sorry !
 
 Does anybody have informations about Nortel certification NNCDS.
 Number of questions, how long the exam is ...
 I am gonna take the eam very soon.
 
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Re: Book Review

[John Neiberger]

It's a truly excellent book, with one caveat:  GET THE ERRATA!  

The information is logically presented and there are many lab scenarios to
help you understand the material. The number of errors, however, will make
you think you're losing your mind.  Once you've corrected the typos, etc.,
you'll be in great shape.

  Any comments on this book?
  Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs
  Written by: Bruce Caslow
  Format: Hardcover, 840pp.
  ISBN: 0130825379
  Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR
  Pub. Date: December 1998
  
  Big D. CCNP/MCSE/MCNE
  
  
  
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Re: CCNA books Sybex or Cisco press ?

[Bharat Suneja]

Sybex v/s Cisco Press.. interesting debate... and I think we haven't had
enough of it. I used both - the Todd Lammle book as well as the CCNA Exam
Certification Guide (Wendell Odom, Cisco Press) for CCNA 1.0.

Believe me, it pays off to read both. For Microsoft certifications, the MS
Press books were sufficient, more or less. For Cisco certifications, the
Cisco Press books are a big help. Mostly, the language is remarkably similar
to the Cisco tests, imho. So if you've read the Cisco Press books, you are
bound to immediately recollect stuff from the book when you read the test
questions. Correct me if I'm wrong folks - but that's been my experience.

I understood switching concepts like Spanning Tree  VLANs much better form
the Cisco Press book than Lammle. Not to belittle the Lammle book - it's an
excellent and focussed book, highly recommended for the test. You could pass
the test by reading the Lammle book alone.

Maybe being inundated with material isn't such a bad thing afterall...

Now only if I could find something to soothe my nerves... I tend to get real
nervous starting 2-3 days before the test... any tips ? (And this is
happening only for the Cisco tests. MS was a breeze comparatively... :-)

Bharat Suneja


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 Luther wrote:

 Subject: passed CCNA.. now what? any recommendations?

 Hi I recently passed CCNA v1.0 .. and was wondering if anyone could help
me
 interms of what I should be doing next? I gather CCNP v2.0 is the most
 logical step I should be taking. Which exam should I take first? .. and
what
 text books can anyone recommend to me?

 For my CCNA i used:

 1. CCNA by Sybex (i didnt like this book very much)
 2. Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices by Cisco Press - I loved this
 book!.. yes I know this is geared towards CCNA v2.0.. but I found it
 excellent in my studies for v1.0 (which i scored 925/1000 on).

 I really prefer to invest my money in cisco press books from now on..

 --

 Well that is an interesting observation Luther. As someone who has just
 ordered the Sybex Lammle CCNA study guide (latest 507 edition note folks)
,
 exam guide and e-lab simulator thing, I was very interested in what Luther
 had to say.

 I have now ordered the CISCO press internetworking book as well but am
 thinking of cancelling Lammle's books. Perhaps I should stick with both as
I
 am sure each has useful stuff in which the other does not have and  a lot
of
 people seem to rate Lammle

 Any comments anyone on the relative merits of the two books?

 Thanks everyone.

 BTW someone (i won't say who but he knows) posted what a star he was for
 passing CCNA ...in HTML  therefore also telling the whole list what a
 pillock he is.

 Hint hint everyone

 Ian



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RE: CCNA jobs

[Matt C. Lange]

Waste Management is hiring

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Hello everybody,
I just passed my CCNA.  I wonder what the job opportunities are
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CCIE Written R/S?

[Sabeen8]

Hi group members,

CCIE written. How hard it is?  How long it will take to study it, if I quit 
my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much 
time other people spent on it.  Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find it 
on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message)

Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment  after I pass it (hopefully) 
and study for lab.
I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications.

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RE: CISCO Premier partner

[Chuck Larrieu]

Hhh  I thought that technically speaking, all switches were
"stackable"

Or did they mean which ones came with the little rubber feet in the box?
:-

chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kevin Wigle
Sent:   Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:16 PM
To: cisco
Subject:Re: CISCO  Premier partner

and to reply to my own reply...

I just took and finished the CSE exam a few minutes ago as I thought - $35 -
let's take a look.

Same problem with other exams - a few questions didn't have a right answer,
but you have to pick one - like which of these switches is stackable (we're
paraphrasing here a lot here folks)
checked the product catalogue and none of the choices are stackable.  oh
well, pick one.

Anyway, I passed so now I'm also a CSE - whooppee - I guess.  After
CCDP/CCNP don't think this one is quite as important.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP. (CSE)  - ha!

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "ian gomeche"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 16:50
Subject: Re: CISCO Premier partner


 Actually, the acronym should read - "CSE" for Cisco Sales Expert.

 The self-paced training courses for the designation are available free
from
 Cisco.  There are two different "tracks" - Small to Medium Business (SMB)
 and Enterprise (ENT)

 Courses can be ordered at www.cisco.com/go/salestrain

 You take the test on-line at www.certification.net/cisco ($35 US)

 Kevin Wigle
 CCDP/CCNP..

 - Original Message -
 From: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 10:30
 Subject: RE: CISCO Premier partner


  what is ccse
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  ian gomeche
  Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:24 PM
  To: cisco
  Subject: CISCO Premier partner
 
 
 
 
 
   i was told by a training centre , that if i passed CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
  myself
   or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of them each etc
then
 i
  would be
   eligible
   to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my
 letterhead.
  
   this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. additionially i would
get
   special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.
  
   i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and phoned CISCO
U.K.
  but i
   do not seem to have found out much more.
  
   does anyone know anything about this?
  
   regards
  
   ian gomeche
  
  
 
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Re: CCNA jobs

[Marco Rodrigues]

try the groupstudy job mailing list. You can join the list via
www.groupstudy.com.



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On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote:

 
   Hello everybody,
   I just passed my CCNA.  I wonder what the job opportunities are
 for CCNA's and where do I find them?  Can anybody help me with this?
   
 
 
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CCIE Written

[Jeffrey Bond]

Do anyone know the ISBN for Caslow's CCIE book.. Please email me off line

thanks

jb

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Re: CCNA jobs

[Natasha]

Hi Stephane
What my teacher told me me was to contact the local computer shops for
contract work.
You may also want to call the Temp serves near where you live.
Now Groupstudy does have a jobs list that may be helpfull.
www.groupstudy.com
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Stephane Wantou Siantou wrote:
 
 Hello everybody,
 I just passed my CCNA.  I wonder what the job opportunities are
 for CCNA's and where do I find them?  Can anybody help me with this?

-- 
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RE: CISCO Premier partner

[Daniel Cotts]

Stackable implies that one adds ports by adding additional switches.
Examples would be the 2900XL and 3500 series. Implication might also be that
the switches can be managed as one device.
Modular switches add ports by adding "duh" modules or blades. Examples would
be the 4000, 5000, and 6000 series.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:03 PM
 To: Kevin Wigle; cisco
 Subject: RE: CISCO Premier partner
 
 
 Hhh  I thought that technically speaking, all switches were
 "stackable"
 
 Or did they mean which ones came with the little rubber feet 
 in the box?
 :-
 
 chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
 Behalf Of
 Kevin Wigle
 Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 4:16 PM
 To:   cisco
 Subject:  Re: CISCO  Premier partner
 
 and to reply to my own reply...
 
 I just took and finished the CSE exam a few minutes ago as I 
 thought - $35 -
 let's take a look.
 
 Same problem with other exams - a few questions didn't have a 
 right answer,
 but you have to pick one - like which of these switches is 
 stackable (we're
 paraphrasing here a lot here folks)
 checked the product catalogue and none of the choices are 
 stackable.  oh
 well, pick one.
 
 Anyway, I passed so now I'm also a CSE - whooppee - I guess.  After
 CCDP/CCNP don't think this one is quite as important.
 
 Kevin Wigle
 CCDP/CCNP. (CSE)  - ha!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "ian gomeche"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 16:50
 Subject: Re: CISCO Premier partner
 
 
  Actually, the acronym should read - "CSE" for Cisco Sales Expert.
 
  The self-paced training courses for the designation are 
 available free
 from
  Cisco.  There are two different "tracks" - Small to Medium 
 Business (SMB)
  and Enterprise (ENT)
 
  Courses can be ordered at www.cisco.com/go/salestrain
 
  You take the test on-line at www.certification.net/cisco ($35 US)
 
  Kevin Wigle
  CCDP/CCNP..
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Matt C. Lange" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "ian gomeche" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, 30 July, 2000 10:30
  Subject: RE: CISCO Premier partner
 
 
   what is ccse
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   ian gomeche
   Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 7:24 PM
   To: cisco
   Subject: CISCO Premier partner
  
  
  
  
  
i was told by a training centre , that if i passed 
 CCNA, CCDA and CCSE
   myself
or had up to 3 people in my company each pass one of 
 them each etc
 then
  i
   would be
eligible
to be a CISCO Premier Partner and can put the CISCO logo on my
  letterhead.
   
this would definitely be worth doing i reckon. 
 additionially i would
 get
special acccess to CISCO marketing plans etc.
   
i visited the relevant part of the CISCO web site and 
 phoned CISCO
 U.K.
   but i
do not seem to have found out much more.
   
does anyone know anything about this?
   
regards
   
ian gomeche
   
   
  
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RE: CNR

[Taylor, Don]

I haven't worked with it enough to recommend it, but I was able to find a
lot of info on Cisco's site. Try searching for its full name: Cisco Network
Registrar. One of the generic pages I found is
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/netregs1.htm

- Don

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To: cisco freinds
Subject: CNR


Hi 

Has anyone worked with CNR 3.5... i need to place a soultion on this.. could
anyone give me technical links on this product of Cisco...  i searched but
all i could get were marketing stuff.. and not much on tech side..

regards,
Murali

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RE: Book Review

[William E Gragido]

It is by far one of the best books written on the subject matter.  I would
suggest it for anyone who is serious in pursuing higher level Cisco
certification or for anyone simply interested in becoming more intimate with
the technologies.  Thumbs Up!

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 Subject: Book Review


 Any comments on this book?
 Cisco Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs
 Written by: Bruce Caslow
 Format: Hardcover, 840pp.
 ISBN: 0130825379
 Publisher: Prentice Hall PTR
 Pub. Date: December 1998

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catalyst 3524

[Luan Kim]

Just wondering what does the "ip nat..." command in a cat3524 do?  I just
realized it has NAT feature in there.  But I am not so sure what it's for.
Thanks for any input.




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Significantly off-topic: Whatever happened to diplomacy?

[Taylor, Don]

Paul and group,

I'm really disappointed in what I see happening with the list of late. I'm
only 31, but I can remember when people didn't just fly off the handle at
the drop of a hat. Just over this weekend I've seen two flames, and one
unfounded accusation; and all of these have been posted for the entire
group's enjoyment.

A couple of years ago I was co-admin of a message board and one of the
standing rules was to refrain from posting personal attacks to the board.
Offenders were warned once, then banned for a period. I hate to suggest
anything that would require even more maintenance by Paul, but damn it, even
preschoolers learn not to bite each other or they take a time-out. And too
many people here have apparently forgotten that lesson, making the whole
experience less enjoyable than it should be. My delete key works just fine,
but I still have to read the post before I decide to delete it.

Food for thought.

- Don
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Postings

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I did nat get any posting from the mailing list for 
some time.

Is their is any problem with the list? Please 
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Re: CCIE Written R/S?

[Geert Hampe]

Hi,

Since you are taken the same road as I did, I can tell you the following :
The CCIE written is a "pain" in that sense that you can't "just" take the
book and study it because there is none.  So you have to find your own
student stuff : the CCNP courses of course,  Halabi's book for BGP,  The
white paper on Token Ring on CCprep, ... Before I took the written I first
passed my CVOICE and CATM test (you have to know them anyway for the test so
why don't you do the certification was my idea ???).  I passed first blow
with 76% (not skyhigh but passing nevertheless).  They ask also questions
about "remote" subjects : 100vganylan, X25, FDDI

Hope this helps you out ...

Cu
Geert Hampe
CCNP+Voice+ATM CCDP CCIE 2B in november

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 Hi group members,

 CCIE written. How hard it is?  How long it will take to study it, if I
quit
 my job and just study days and nights for it? I want an idea that how much
 time other people spent on it.  Any feedback? (by the way, I couldn't find
it
 on groupstudy archive, as I always check it before sending any message)

 Will get a full-time job in Cisco environment  after I pass it (hopefully)
 and study for lab.
 I have my CCNA, and CCNP (soon) from Cisco and some other certifications.

 Any response will be appreciated.  Thanks!

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