Re: Little ID card

2001-01-13 Thread Jason Roysdon

Be careful when you get mailed your certification letter.  When I passed my
CCDA, I took the letter out, skimmed and promptly tossed it, took out the
cert, and tossed the envelope.  While hanging the cert, I recalled that I
had gotten a CCNA card and wondered why I didn't get one for my CCDA.  I
went and checked the envelope, and sure enough stuck in the bottom was the
card.

I wish Cisco would make them look a bit more professional, instead of a
piece of laminated paper.  Furthermore, it'd be nice if they listed all
current certs on the same card as Microsoft does (MCP, MCSE, MCT, MCSE+I,
etc.).  A card listing CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCNP: Security would make me
happy.  And no, I didn't get a card for my CCNP: Security Specialization,
but I did get a Certification paper.

Maybe I should just make my own Cisco card with all the nifty letters and
logos that I have?  Probably not ok with Cisco, plus a bit too much work,
hehee.

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> Yep, ya sure do. I've got two new ones since getting my NP/DP certs.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Dangerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Little ID card
>
>
> Don't want to sound too fussy, but,
>
> Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit card
> sized
> id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've got.
> These
> sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and got
one
> of
> these let me know !
>
> Steve
>
> Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst
> B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA
>
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RE: Little ID card

2001-01-13 Thread Timothy Metz

Ya, that little ID card is crap, Cisco should be ashamed to be s outdone
by Microsoft on this point

Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jason Roysdon
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Little ID card
>
>
> Be careful when you get mailed your certification letter.  When I
> passed my
> CCDA, I took the letter out, skimmed and promptly tossed it, took out the
> cert, and tossed the envelope.  While hanging the cert, I recalled that I
> had gotten a CCNA card and wondered why I didn't get one for my CCDA.  I
> went and checked the envelope, and sure enough stuck in the bottom was the
> card.
>
> I wish Cisco would make them look a bit more professional, instead of a
> piece of laminated paper.  Furthermore, it'd be nice if they listed all
> current certs on the same card as Microsoft does (MCP, MCSE, MCT, MCSE+I,
> etc.).  A card listing CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCNP: Security
> would make me
> happy.  And no, I didn't get a card for my CCNP: Security Specialization,
> but I did get a Certification paper.
>
> Maybe I should just make my own Cisco card with all the nifty letters and
> logos that I have?  Probably not ok with Cisco, plus a bit too much work,
> hehee.
>
> --
> Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/
>
>
> ""Taylor, Don"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> effectcorp
> .com...
> > Yep, ya sure do. I've got two new ones since getting my NP/DP certs.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven Dangerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:32 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OT: Little ID card
> >
> >
> > Don't want to sound too fussy, but,
> >
> > Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit card
> > sized
> > id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've got.
> > These
> > sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and got
> one
> > of
> > these let me know !
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst
> > B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA
> >
> > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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Re: Windows flow control & any questions

2001-01-13 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

On 13 Jan 2001 02:12:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, Park.

My attempt is inline after my own research.

>Hi, everyone...
>
>I'm park...
>
>I really can't find a correct answer the following questions;
>if anybody have some idea, or answer or 
>please guide me
>
>1. In windows flow control,
>   window size 512, ack 38177, sequence 90708, byte sent 1024(A hosts)
>   window size 1024, ack 91732, sequence 38177, byte sent 512(B hosts)
>   window size 2048, ack ?, sequence ?, byte sent 1024(A hosts)

Simple, ack 38689(38177 + 512) sequence 91732
>
>2. What is true about UDP packet fragment?
>1) Only first fragment has the UDP
>2) All fragment hold UDP

1) is correct, only first one has the UDP header
You can check p.151 of TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols

>
>3. TCP implementers when they talk about "slow start"?
>1) adjust timers after detecting error
>2) Keep tcp traffic from congestion
>3) poor performance
>4)bug
>5) long latency
>
2) is correct answer, slow start gradually increases segment sending
rate, which causes congestion. "It operates by observing that the rate
at which new packets should be injected into the network is the rate
at which the acknowledgments are returned by the other end."
Also from the same book, p.285, pp. 310

Wow, I came to realize that TCP/IP itself is a quite monster to
master. And I'm far away from it.

Thanks

Regards,
Jaeheon
>
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RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch

2001-01-13 Thread Yonkerbonk

Actually, before I found out about the CSS, I had
intended to put two Alteons in front of the PIX and
two behind for a total of four. So yes, there would be
redundancy at that level too. And behind the PIXs
would be two Checkpoints, using Stonebeat to load
balance.
I'm just wondering if local director and CSS will be
able to do this too.

--- Christopher Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose maybe you could still get this to work
> through a combination of
> the discussed and some DNS manipulation, but I would
> have to think to much
> to figure it out, and I suppose that is part of what
> the CSS is addressing.
> I can see where if the CSS had a single address that
> pointed to multiple
> advertised globals on seperate pix's this would be
> easier, but then for high
> availability won't you also need 2 CSS'? Now my
> cusriosity is peaked. I
> think I should research the CSS' and what they do
> exactly to allow for
> firewall load balancing.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message-
> From: Christopher Larson 
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:14 AM
> To: 'Yonkerbonk'; Christopher Larson; Tim O'Brien;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
> Switch
> 
> 
> For statefull PIX failovers they do need to share
> info. In the scenario
> below, a downed PIX would cause people to need to
> reconnect. In Pix's
> statefull failover that would not happen. I guess
> there is a lot more at
> issue here then I first thought. Like the static's
> and nat on the pix's. You
> could not maintain that info in this scenario. You
> could not have both pix's
> advertising the same global address either so it
> would not work.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: Christopher Larson; Tim O'Brien;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Any body know about Cisco Content
> Switch
> 
> 
> I imagine the problem comes when the PIX needs to
> know
> the state of the data flow, like if it's an ongoing
> TCP session or just random data. I'm not sure if
> this
> is an issue. Do the PIXs need to share information?
> Do
> the CSS do that for them?
> 
> --- Christopher Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am not sure about CSS switches, and maybe your
> > needs are special, but
> > couldn't you just add a default route to both
> PIX's
> > on each switch's RSM and
> > turn off fast-switching. You will then get per
> > packet load balancing between
> > the switches and the pix's. 
> > 
> > I have done this before between 6500's and routers
> > in for high
> > avail/reliability but not between the switches and
> > PIX's. I don't know why
> > it wouldn't work with the pix though .
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:39 PM
> > To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content
> > Switch
> > 
> > 
> > We currently have our PIXs side by side right
> behind
> > the internet routers. Then the PIXs connect into
> two
> > redundant 6509s, which is our core.
> > We are trying for high availibility, which the
> > failover software already does for us. But I was
> > thinking it probably was better to use both of
> them
> > at
> > the same time, more efficient and more throughput
> > without having to buy 535. So I'm looking to load
> > balance the two PIXs, which we can do with
> > Checkpoint/Stonebeat combo.
> > From the link you sent me on the 6509, it seems
> > perhaps that I can use them to load balance to the
> > PIXs from the inside? What is better for traffic
> > coming from the internet to be load balanced on
> the
> > PIX? The CSS or Local Director? The both seem to
> be
> > for web or server traffic, but I can see them
> being
> > used in other ways.
> > Got any advice?
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --- Tim O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Here are some links for the CSS switches. For
> the
> > > application that it
> > > appears that you are trying to run you will need
> > the
> > > switches in front and
> > > behind the PIX boxes. The PIX 535 is out now and
> > > will do a Gig of
> > > throughput. What are you trying to accomplish?
> You
> > > can run PIXes in a
> > > active/passive config if it is high availability
> > > that you are looking for.
> > > Give me a little more on the design that you are
> > > doing.
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/11000/prodlit/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > or load balance on the 6500
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/ios6k_wp.htm
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/aslb_wp.htm
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Yonkerbonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Wayne Lawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tommy
> > > Mitchell"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > "cisco@groupstudy.
> > > com (E-mail)"
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> > > Sent: Thursday, Ja

Re: CCIE Written Test - retraction

2001-01-13 Thread umerkhan

i totally agree with andy. i am taking the test on the 17th and i find the
list of questions very helpful and it exposed some of my weaknesses which i
would try to cover up before the exam , thanks to andy. i have subscribed
this mailing list solely for the purpose of assistance in the prepration of
ccie exam. and i have to scroll through more than a 100 messages daily to
find interesting messages. and remove all the other unwanted messages. this
is exactly the kind of message that i (and all those preparing the exam )
would wish for.

- Original Message -
From: "Elijah Landreth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:47 AM
Subject: CCIE Written Test - retraction


> Hey All-
>
> I neither meant to piss anyone off, nor to break a NDA. We all know that
the
> CCIE is the top dog of tests. All of us have studied hard to get here, and
> everyone in this room is looking for a little help in studying for this.
> When I got home from the test today, I tried to remember all of the areas
> that were of question to me. None of the questions I posted were
verbatim...
> they couldn't be, since we all know there is NO way to bring a copy of the
> test out with you! But knowing that most, if not all, of the people who
> frequent this room are studying to achieve the same result, I was looking
> for some peer help.
>
> I am a little unsure what happened to cause as harsh a response as I have
> received from what I posted. If I have tread in an area that I am unaware
> of, I will remove myself from further discussion. I am not in the habit of
> posting here, but rather simply of reading all of your helpful
information.
> I would be grateful if someone could CALMLY explain where I went wrong in
my
> wording. Many times in the past I have seen others post lists of questions
> that they too have had regarding this test, as well as other tests in
other
> study groups. This appeared to be the proper place to post my questions
and
> receive help in understanding things I may have needed help with
>
> As for "reporting" me to Cisco, or a moderator, or whomever- I feel that I
> need to understand my violation before I am sentenced. I will contact
> someone myself if necessary, and have my post removed from future viewing,
> if that is appropriate. However, I am still unclear as to WHY my post
caused
> the distress it appears to have been responsible for.
>
> My sincere apologies...
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Re: Little ID card

2001-01-13 Thread Kevin Welch

It should be noted that according to Cisco (if I remember, its too late to
look up the link), but you are only supposed to list your highest
certification on your business cards and such.  But I will admit the MCSE
cards look more professional.

-- Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Metz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: Little ID card


> Ya, that little ID card is crap, Cisco should be ashamed to be s
outdone
> by Microsoft on this point
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Jason Roysdon
> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Little ID card
> >
> >
> > Be careful when you get mailed your certification letter.  When I
> > passed my
> > CCDA, I took the letter out, skimmed and promptly tossed it, took out
the
> > cert, and tossed the envelope.  While hanging the cert, I recalled that
I
> > had gotten a CCNA card and wondered why I didn't get one for my CCDA.  I
> > went and checked the envelope, and sure enough stuck in the bottom was
the
> > card.
> >
> > I wish Cisco would make them look a bit more professional, instead of a
> > piece of laminated paper.  Furthermore, it'd be nice if they listed all
> > current certs on the same card as Microsoft does (MCP, MCSE, MCT,
MCSE+I,
> > etc.).  A card listing CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCNP: Security
> > would make me
> > happy.  And no, I didn't get a card for my CCNP: Security
Specialization,
> > but I did get a Certification paper.
> >
> > Maybe I should just make my own Cisco card with all the nifty letters
and
> > logos that I have?  Probably not ok with Cisco, plus a bit too much
work,
> > hehee.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Roysdon, CCNP/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> > Cisco resources: http://r2cisco.artoo.net/
> >
> >
> > ""Taylor, Don"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > effectcorp
> > .com...
> > > Yep, ya sure do. I've got two new ones since getting my NP/DP certs.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Steven Dangerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:32 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: OT: Little ID card
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't want to sound too fussy, but,
> > >
> > > Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit
card
> > > sized
> > > id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've
got.
> > > These
> > > sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and
got
> > one
> > > of
> > > these let me know !
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst
> > > B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA
> > >
> > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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> > > visit http://www.totalise.net
> > >
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> > for
> > > you"
> > > http://www.totaliseshop.co.uk
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RE: Useful things to do with trolls

2001-01-13 Thread Kevin_Cullimore

If you refer to swallows instead, they'll probably be able to recognize the
reference slightly faster.





"Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/13/2001 05:15:13
AM

Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls


The secret to passing The Lab is not to ask the proctor "what kind of a
sparrow" but to tell the proctor what you know of the several species of
sparrow, the velocities of each, and then ask which one he would prefer ;->

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ray
Mosely
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 PM
To:  Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls

What kind of sparrow?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Useful things to do with trolls


>I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these,
sometimes
>the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.
This
>is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days,
>anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they don't,
>then into the kill file they go.
>
>just my $.01 after taxes,
>John

Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying
bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge.
Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is
preprogrammed to ask:

 "what is your name?
 "what is your quest?
 "what is the velocity of the sparrow?

Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement?

>
>>
>>   Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name
>for
>>   the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your
list,
>>   you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll
and
>>   get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time
>>   worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack,
and
>>   if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then
>>   you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time
>>   that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
>  >

Andy

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Re: Help Required - Desperately

2001-01-13 Thread Atef Rostom

I use ms windows HyperTerminal and I can change the settings while
connected.

If you're connected and click on the file menu, select properties, then
click on configure. There you will be able to change the settings.

Atef

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Atef Rostom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:06 PM
Subject: RE: Help Required - Desperately


> Had reason to test this recently.
>
> Be ware that with Hyperterminal, on cannot change the connection settings
> while connected. One must disconnect, change the setting, then reconnect.
I
> take it this requirement  renders this particular remedy useless to a
> Hyperterminal user.
>
> Atef, I am assuming you use one of the other more flexible terminal
> programs?
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
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> Rostom
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Help Required - Desperately
>
> If you're unable to break the router's boot using any of the normal break
> sequences, try the following...
>
> Set your terminal program to 1200bps, press on the space bar and keep it
> down, reboot the router, keep space bar down for 10-20 seconds, release
> space bar and then set your terminal program to 9600 or the normal speed.
>
>
> "Mani .K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hi all,
> > I am badly in need of help from you Cisco gurus. We have a 2522 Router
> > which was bought around 1996/1997. It doesnt boot now. The console
> > screenshot is shown below.
> >
> >
> > 
> > System Bootstrap, Version 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE
> > Copyright (c) 1986-1996 by cisco Systems
> > 2500 processor with 8192 Kbytes of main memory
> >
> >   Restricted Rights Legend
> >
> > Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
> > subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
> > (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
> > Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
> > (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
> > Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
> >
> >cisco Systems, Inc.
> >170 West Tasman Drive
> >San Jose, California 95134-1706
> >
> >
> >
> > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> > IOS (tm) 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version 11.0(10c),
> > RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> > Copyright (c) 1986-1996 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> > Compiled Fri 27-Dec-96 17:33 by loreilly
> > Image text-base: 0x0101, data-base: 0x1000
> >
> > Local Timeout (control reg=0x118) Error, address: 0x2101884 at 0x1076504
> > (PC)
> > ---
> >
> > I have tried to enter the ROM Monitor prompt and tried to set the config
> > register as to boot from ROM and enter setup mode. But Neither does it
> > enter the setup mode nor does it come up to the router promt. The above
> > screen repeats itself.
> >
> > Can anyone infer what is the problem with the router. Also please tell
> > me what I can do to get the router prompt.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > S.Kalidasan
> >
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BCMSN Exam format

2001-01-13 Thread Jon Cuthbert

Can anyone let me know the format of the command line questions.

Are they like ACRC etc when you are given no options or help

Or like BCRAN where the was a big list of options where you copied
from.

Thanks

Jon

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Re: configuration register

2001-01-13 Thread Adam Quiggle

Zuszus,

Feel free to use this spreadsheet to determine the appropriate
values for your configuration register.

http://home.nc.rr.com/quiggle/ConfigReg.xls

HTH,
AQ

At 03:49 PM 1/8/01, zuszus wrote:
>i am a network administrator of CORVIT SYSTEMS PRIVATE LIMITED PAKISTAN.I
>JUST CHANGED TJE CONFIGURATION REGISTOR VALUE to 0x2101 OF MY  cisco routers
>( cpa 2501),and reloaded. after that they are not get started.i erased the
>flash and reloaded from tftp , but all my efforts ended in in vain. please
>help.
>
>khawaja usman mahmood
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Re: CCIE Written Test - retraction

2001-01-13 Thread Edward Hartman

All-

While the list of Q's that Elijah posted may have been helpful, it does 
tread close to (if not directly) violating Cisco's NDA.  Cisco has clearly 
posted on their web site a list of areas in which you need to be proficient 
to pass the CCIE written exam.  This is all we need.  Posting test 
questions based on the exam you just took can give Cisco cause to revoke 
your certification and prevent you from attaining new certifications.  That 
is a risk no one serious about their Cisco career would consciously take.

I think this is a wake-up call for us to remain focused on our goals - 
sharing knowledge for the purpose of assisting others and enriching our own 
professional career.  But we need to be cautious of the information we 
share.  It is a matter of professionalism and common courtesy.

As a Technical Instructor, I have found merely GIVING someone the answer is 
not the best manner for teaching them. Real appreciation of knowledge comes 
when there is a significant amount of effort in gaining that 
knowledge.  Also, a greater amount of self-respect, personal achievement 
and professional confidence is gained when we do it ourselves - when we 
solve the problem on our own.  This is not to say we ALWAYS need to work 
hard to find the answer, but don't you feel great when YOU solved it?! And 
those problems that cause us the most headache (passing the LAB) give us 
the most reward/satisfaction when WE solve them.  Sure, we all need 
assistance now and then, but do we need to be spoon-fed all the 
answers?  How can we ever learn to troubleshoot or learn on our own?  When 
my students are working on a problem and need assistance, I never answer 
their questions directly.  Rather, I ask questions that they should be 
asking as they search for the answer or solve the problem.  I only guide 
them - THEY find the answer.  I have found with this method they learn how 
to think for themselves and learn how find the answers.  With this process 
they learn how to find the answers.  There is much more than knowing how to 
answer a question.  We should not seek to know, but to understand.  (OK, 
enough of the ZEN)

Let's face it, no one knows all the answers - but the best 
Engineers/Consultants know how to find all the answers.  This study list is 
one resource, but the greatest resource is within - your own desire and 
determination.

-Eddie


At 05:47 AM 1/13/01 +, Elijah Landreth wrote:
>Hey All-
>
>I neither meant to piss anyone off, nor to break a NDA. We all know that the
>CCIE is the top dog of tests. All of us have studied hard to get here, and
>everyone in this room is looking for a little help in studying for this.
>When I got home from the test today, I tried to remember all of the areas
>that were of question to me. None of the questions I posted were verbatim...
>they couldn't be, since we all know there is NO way to bring a copy of the
>test out with you! But knowing that most, if not all, of the people who
>frequent this room are studying to achieve the same result, I was looking
>for some peer help.
>
>I am a little unsure what happened to cause as harsh a response as I have
>received from what I posted. If I have tread in an area that I am unaware
>of, I will remove myself from further discussion. I am not in the habit of
>posting here, but rather simply of reading all of your helpful information.
>I would be grateful if someone could CALMLY explain where I went wrong in my
>wording. Many times in the past I have seen others post lists of questions
>that they too have had regarding this test, as well as other tests in other
>study groups. This appeared to be the proper place to post my questions and
>receive help in understanding things I may have needed help with
>
>As for "reporting" me to Cisco, or a moderator, or whomever- I feel that I
>need to understand my violation before I am sentenced. I will contact
>someone myself if necessary, and have my post removed from future viewing,
>if that is appropriate. However, I am still unclear as to WHY my post caused
>the distress it appears to have been responsible for.
>
>My sincere apologies...
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wanpros.com and CCIE Written

2001-01-13 Thread Eric Gunn

Does anyone have any experience with the CCIE written practice exams out 
out by Wanpros?

If so how good were they? Were they helpful in your studies?

Thanks,

-Eric Gunn

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Re: Useful things to do with trolls

2001-01-13 Thread Natasha

Then you have the question of An African swallow, or a European Swallow.
The European being slightly faster at Approximately 28 kilometers per
hour.
Whereas the African at Approximately 21 kilometers per hour.
Both unladen of course.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> If you refer to swallows instead, they'll probably be able to recognize the
> reference slightly faster.
> 
> "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/13/2001 05:15:13
> AM
> 
> Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
> Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> 
> The secret to passing The Lab is not to ask the proctor "what kind of a
> sparrow" but to tell the proctor what you know of the several species of
> sparrow, the velocities of each, and then ask which one he would prefer ;->
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Ray
> Mosely
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 PM
> To:  Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> 
> What kind of sparrow?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Howard C. Berkowitz
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Useful things to do with trolls
> 
> >I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these,
> sometimes
> >the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.
> This
> >is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days,
> >anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they don't,
> >then into the kill file they go.
> >
> >just my $.01 after taxes,
> >John
> 
> Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying
> bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge.
> Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is
> preprogrammed to ask:
> 
>  "what is your name?
>  "what is your quest?
>  "what is the velocity of the sparrow?
> 
> Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement?
> 
> >
> >>
> >>   Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name
> >for
> >>   the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your
> list,
> >>   you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll
> and
> >>   get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time
> >>   worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack,
> and
> >>   if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then
> >>   you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time
> >>   that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
> >  >
> 
> Andy
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Re: Useful things to do with trolls

2001-01-13 Thread hal9001

I've seen that film too.Camelot, Camelot, Camelot..no just a
cardboard cut-out!

Karl
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> Then you have the question of An African swallow, or a European Swallow.
> The European being slightly faster at Approximately 28 kilometers per
> hour.
> Whereas the African at Approximately 21 kilometers per hour.
> Both unladen of course.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > If you refer to swallows instead, they'll probably be able to recognize
the
> > reference slightly faster.
> >
> > "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/13/2001
05:15:13
> > AM
> >
> > Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
> > Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > The secret to passing The Lab is not to ask the proctor "what kind of a
> > sparrow" but to tell the proctor what you know of the several species of
> > sparrow, the velocities of each, and then ask which one he would prefer
;->
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> > Ray
> > Mosely
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 PM
> > To:  Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > What kind of sparrow?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Howard C. Berkowitz
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > >I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these,
> > sometimes
> > >the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.
> > This
> > >is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of
days,
> > >anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they
don't,
> > >then into the kill file they go.
> > >
> > >just my $.01 after taxes,
> > >John
> >
> > Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying
> > bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge.
> > Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is
> > preprogrammed to ask:
> >
> >  "what is your name?
> >  "what is your quest?
> >  "what is the velocity of the sparrow?
> >
> > Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement?
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>   Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a
name
> > >for
> > >>   the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your
> > list,
> > >>   you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the
troll
> > and
> > >>   get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much
time
> > >>   worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a
crack,
> > and
> > >>   if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't,
then
> > >>   you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and
time
> > >>   that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
> > >  >
> >
> > Andy
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Re: OT: Fridays funnies -- Woman's Dictionary

2001-01-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

A correction or two.

>Airhead (er*hed) n. What a woman intentionally becomes, when pulled over
>by a policeman.
>
>   Argument (ar*gyou*ment) n. A discussion that occurs, when you're
>right, but he just hasn't
>   realized it yet.

Therefore, there are no arguments with the people that write Cisco exams.

>
>   Clothes dryer (kloze dri*yer) n. An appliance designed to eat socks.

Now, I thought this was put to rest a long time ago in a responsible 
journal -- I think IEEE Network, but certainly an IEEE journal.

One, and only one, sock in each pair is capable of reproduction.
Two socks will merge, and form a wire coat hanger.

Occam's Razor makes this an especially attractive solution, since it 
solves both the odd sock problem and the ever-increasing wire coat 
hanger problem.

>
>
>   Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game.

Isn't that also the time to reboot the router?

>
>   Grocery List (grow*ser*ee list) n. What you spend half an hour
>writing, then forget to take
>   with you to the store.

IOS feature list for a given version.

>
>   Hair Dresser (hare dres*er) n. Someone, who is able to create a style,
>you will never be
>   able to duplicate again. See also "Magician".

Hair dressers must create certain access lists.

>
>
>   Childbirth (child*brth) n. You get to go through 36 hours of
>contractions; he gets to hold
>   your hand and say,
>   "Focus...breath...push...Good Girl!"

Are there similarities to the CCIE lab?

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Re: OT: Fridays funnies -- Woman's Dictionary

2001-01-13 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, Natasha

I have to admit I'm your fan. You're a gem for this list.
Thanks!!

Jaeheon


On 12 Jan 2001 19:25:18 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Natasha) wrote:

>Airhead (er*hed) n. What a woman intentionally becomes, when pulled over
>by a policeman. 
>
>  Argument (ar*gyou*ment) n. A discussion that occurs, when you're
>right, but he just hasn't
>  realized it yet. 
>
>  Balance the checkbook (bal*ens da chek*buk) v. To go to the cash
>machine and hit
>  "inquire". 
>
>  Bar-be-que (bar*bi*q) n. You bought the groceries, washed the lettuce,
>chopped the
>  tomatoes, diced the onions, marinated the meat, and cleaned everything
>up, but he
>  "made the dinner". 
>
>  Blonde jokes (blond joks) n. Jokes that are short so men can
>understand them. 
>
>  Cantaloupe (kant*e*lope) n. Gotta get married in a church. 
>
>  Clothes dryer (kloze dri*yer) n. An appliance designed to eat socks. 
>
>  Diet Soda (dy*it so*da) n. A drink you buy at a convenience store to
>go with a pound of
>  M&M chocolate covered peanuts. 
>
>  Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game. 
>
>  Exercise (ex*er*siz) v. To walk up and down a mall, occasionally
>resting to make a
>  purchase. 
>
>  Grocery List (grow*ser*ee list) n. What you spend half an hour
>writing, then forget to take
>  with you to the store. 
>
>  Hair Dresser (hare dres*er) n. Someone, who is able to create a style,
>you will never be
>  able to duplicate again. See also "Magician". 
>
>  Hardware Store (hard*war stor) n. Similar to a black hole in
>space...if he goes in, he isn't
>  coming out anytime soon. 
>
>  Childbirth (child*brth) n. You get to go through 36 hours of
>contractions; he gets to hold
>  your hand and say, 
>  "Focus...breath...push...Good Girl!" 
>
>  Lipstick (lip*stik) n. On your lips, coloring to enhance the beauty of
>your mouth. On his
>  collar, coloring only a tramp would wear. 
>
>  Park (park) v./n. Before children, a verb meaning, "to go somewhere
>and neck". After
>  children, a noun meaning a place with a swing set and slide. 
>
>  Patience (pa*shens) n. The most important ingredient for dating,
>marriage and children.
>  See also "tranquilizers". 
>
>  Valentine's Day (val*en*tinez dae) n. A day ,when you have dreams of a
>candlelight
>  dinner, diamonds, and romance, but consider yourself lucky to get a
>card. 
>
>  Waterproof Mascara (wah*tr*pruf mas*kar*ah) n. Comes off if you cry,
>shower, or swim,
>  but will not come off, if you try to remove it. 
>
>  Zillion (zil*yen) n. The number of times you ask someone to take out
>the trash, then end up
>  doing it yourself anyway 
>
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troubleshooting isdn dial in

2001-01-13 Thread beth shriver

If i do a sh isdn status and get the following:The
current ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni1
ISDN BRI0 interface
Layer 1 Status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 96, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 97, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid Status:
TEI 96, ces = 1, state = 5(init)
spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent,
spid1 valid
Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 61, tid
= 1
TEI 97, ces = 2, state = 5(init)
spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent,
spid2 valid
Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 5, tid
= 1
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1
CCB: callid=0x0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=0
Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1


but when i do a show dialer all call attempts show
FAILURE  would this point towards problem with
isdn line??!

please help!
Beth


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Re: troubleshooting isdn dial - wait for carrier timeout

2001-01-13 Thread beth shriver

also i keep getting a wait for carrier timeout

this is really confusing me!


> 00:06:54: BRI0: wait for carrier timeout, call
id=0x8028




> >>> beth4235 01/13/01 11:27 >>>
> 
> If i do a sh isdn status and get the following:The
> current ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni1
> ISDN BRI0 interface
> Layer 1 Status:
> ACTIVE
> Layer 2 Status:
> TEI = 96, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> TEI = 97, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> Spid Status:
> TEI 96, ces = 1, state = 5(init)
> spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent,
> spid1 valid
> Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 61,
> tid
> = 1
> TEI 97, ces = 2, state = 5(init)
> spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent,
> spid2 valid
> Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 5,
> tid
> = 1
> Layer 3 Status:
> 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1
> CCB: callid=0x0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=0
> Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1
> 
> 
> but when i do a show dialer all call attempts show
> FAILURE  would this point towards problem with
> isdn line??!
> 
> please help!
> Beth
> 
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RE: CCIE Written test questions

2001-01-13 Thread CiscoCCStuff

Elijah,

I cannot believe what you just posted here.  Did you even read the Security 
Agreement on that test?  You must have a friend at the test center that let 
you leave with a nice copy of the questions.

I'm sure you are trying to cover your tracks using hotmail, and probably a 
fake name, but I hope Cisco hunts you down and suspends all your 
certifications.  They should do the same to the test center. 

Jon



Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:31:35 
From: "Elijah Landreth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 


Took CCIE today. It was much easier than I expected. Not to say that there 
is not a lot of material on the test. Here is 50 or so questions that I 
recommend you know the answers to ;) I would love to hear about any specific 
questions that anyone else has come across in thier written experience. 
Would also to be curios to know the answers to questions 7, 17, 22, 23, 26, 
36 and 39.

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troubleshooting isdn dial in - adding a pause??

2001-01-13 Thread beth shriver

one more rookie question :)
is there a way to add a pause on my dialer map
statement between the pic code and the number?
thanks!
> From: "beth shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:27 AM
> Subject: troubleshooting isdn dial in
> 
> 
> > If i do a sh isdn status and get the following:The
> > current ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni1
> > ISDN BRI0 interface
> > Layer 1 Status:
> > ACTIVE
> > Layer 2 Status:
> > TEI = 96, State =
> MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> > TEI = 97, State =
> MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> > Spid Status:
> > TEI 96, ces = 1, state = 5(init)
> > spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent,
> > spid1 valid
> > Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 61,
> tid
> > = 1
> > TEI 97, ces = 2, state = 5(init)
> > spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent,
> > spid2 valid
> > Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 5,
> tid
> > = 1
> > Layer 3 Status:
> > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1
> > CCB: callid=0x0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=0
> > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1
> >
> >
> > but when i do a show dialer all call attempts show
> > FAILURE  would this point towards problem with
> > isdn line??!
> >
> > please help!
> > Beth
> >
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Re: OT: Fridays funnies -- Woman's Dictionary

2001-01-13 Thread Lauren Child



"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote:
> >   Eternity (e*ter*ni*tee) n. The last two minutes of a football game.
> 
> Isn't that also the time to reboot the router?
> 

depends on the time of day, whether its in use, and your proximity to a
phone and/or the users.

It can also be applied to the time it takes between issuing the "no ip
address" command on the ethernet and the "reload in 10" command coming
into effect.  Contrast to the infinitessimally small time between
issuing the "no ip address" command on the ethernet, and realising that
all the wan links used "ip unnumbered ethernet0"

Contrast also the the creeping slowness of a router being crippled by a
debug command when you forgot to turn off console logging - the nearer
the command line gets to the second "l" in "u all" the closer it gets to
eternity.  The return key press at the end of the command taking a full
eternity to come into effect.

TTFN
Lauren

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RE: CCIE Written Beta results -

2001-01-13 Thread Matthew . Sypherd



I received my results yesterday as well.  I also missed it by 2 points.
(grumble grumble)  I actually should feel pretty good about it, because I
took it on a whim. I passed the R/S CCIE Written the prior week and decided
to "Press my luck" for on the security test without any studying.
Unfortunately I got the "Whammy".  It was well worth the $50, though.
Others have said that the silver lining here is that we can now really
focus on the R/S lab.  However, as I am starting to work towards security
as a specialization for my career, I'm not going to be able to pull myself
away.  However, being that there is apparently some security showing up in
the lab, there is definitely overlap. Does anyone have any idea as to
whether that will change when the Security lab comes out?

Matthew C. Sypherd
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Bill Parenteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com
01/12/2001 06:00 PM





Please respond to Bill Parenteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nigel Taylor
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, CCIE_Lab Group Study
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Subject:  RE: CCIE Written Beta results -


I got mine yesterday.   I came close, 63%, but I take
this as a sign that I should do some more studying.
I got a 20% on OS and 40 on App protocols.

Bill


--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got mine today. I never thought I'd be happy about
> failing a test, but in
> this case, it is so.
>
> One lab is bad enough.
>
> My score was 53. Nigel - were you around there? My
> breakdowns averaged out
> about what your did.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Nigel Taylor
> Sent:   Friday, January 12, 2001 3:26 AM
> To: CCIE_Lab Group Study; Cisco Group Study
> Cc: Bryant Andrews
> Subject: CCIE Written Beta results -
>
> All,
> I don't know if anyone else got their Score
> Report but I received =
> mines yesterday and I'm still in denial.  Yes,
> denial!  When I took the =
> exam I really felt that the test itself was
> reasonable and well written. =
> I must admit that when taking the exam it almost
> felt like the R&S exam =
> with a bunch of security.  In any event I missed the
> grade.  From the =
> score sheet it does shoe me that I was week in
> security and Application =
> protocols.  Well here's the breakdown;
>
> Security Protocols:  45 (Ouch...!)
> Operating Systems: 60
> Application Protocols:  30 (Ouch...!)
> General Networking: 75
> Security Technologies: 40 (Ouch..!)
> Security General: 90
> Cisco General:   100 (weee heee.!)
> Cisco Sec. Apps: 50 (Umm..)
>
> As I said I surely failed this exam because of my
> overall weakness in =
> Security.  Oh yes before I forget... the=20
> passing mark was tagged at 65% and I only got a 57%.
>  like I said I =
> thought it was a pretty good test and=20
> before receiving this report.. "I thought" I
> did
>
> In say that I'm drawn to remember a funny saying
> about the man that =
> "thought"... :->
>
> Review over...
>
> Nigel..
>
>
>
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troubleshooting a 2520 boot problem

2001-01-13 Thread info

I've been reading from:

http://www-ks.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/KSBE/cisco/data/doc/hardware/access/2520/
ug/c2520trb.htm

and

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1903.htm#xtocid178
1610


I have a 2520 router that when it boots the OK LED stays lit but the
console produces no indication of boot activity. THe above articles
suggest checking the power supply, so I tried a known working PS
and got the same outcome.

I tried reseating the chips on the board...and even booting without them.

Seems like it must be a bad motherboard.  Anyone have any other
suggestions. Thanks!


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Re: Ip management

2001-01-13 Thread info

An Excel Spreadsheet leaves alot to be desired. Trust me. Keeping track =
of
how a full class B is subnetted in Excel is no fun whatsoever, in the =
least,=20
at all, ptah ptoo, ack!=20

Em, you might try to look the subnet calc on solarwinds.net

It allows you to subnet and print out the addressing that results.  Its =
not quite
what you had in mind...but its close.  What is needed on the market is
a tool that makes it easy to manage IP addressing. Where the addresses =
are
deployed, whats available now, how many possible networks are left how =
many
hosts possible are left, etc.come on programmers, how about it??

I also agree with Em,  I need a tool that only does IP =
addressing.not DNS and DHCP
...for a variety of reasons.



  "Taylor, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message =
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]=

  What level of management do you mean? If you're not DNSing or DHCPing, =
wouldn't you just want a spreadsheet saying what IPs are allocated to =
what hosts and which ones are left over? I know of a very large ASP that =
does this in MS Excel.
  =20
  - Don
  -Original Message-
  From: Emilia Lambros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: Group Study <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 8:29 AM
  Subject: RE: Ip management


  Are there any that do just the IP management? =20
  =20
  Most that I've seen do all sorts of DNS and DHCP stuff as well as =
manage IPs.  I need something that will JUST help me manage a multitude =
of IP addresses - not provide DNS entries or make them available as a =
DHCP server :)  Is there anything that anyone else has come across that =
has does LESS rather than more?  I've been looking for about a year and =
come up with nothing :(
  =20
  Cheers,
  =20
  Em
  =20
  =20
  =20
  -Original Message-
  From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 3:35 AM
  To: 'Palis Michael'; Group Study; CISCO
  Subject: RE: Ip management


  There are lots of good ones out there.  Check out Lucent's QIP, =
Checkpoint's NetID, and Cisco's Network Registrar to name a few.  If you =
search back issues of Network Computing, you'll find a couple of product =
comparisons and reviews.
  =20
  irwin
-Original Message-
From: Palis Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:06 AM
To: Group Study; CISCO
Subject: Ip management


I am looking for an good IP management program able to manage =
several class C and privade addresses allocated to several customers.

Can you suggest one?
=
-=
---
../  Ppalis Micheal =20
../  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

../ CYPRUS TELECOM. AUTHORITY FAX: + 357 2 486634
../ Value Added Services www: http://www.cytanet.com.cy
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RE: troubleshooting a 2520 boot problem

2001-01-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

Can we assume that you have tried the same terminal software and console
cable on a working router?
Regarding power supplies. Sometimes the pins on the motherboard become
covered with a residue. Use something abrasive to clean them before
attaching the power supply. It has worked for me on PCs.

> -Original Message-
> From: info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 2:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: troubleshooting a 2520 boot problem
> 
> 
> I've been reading from:
> 
> http://www-ks.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/KSBE/cisco/data/doc/hardwar
> e/access/2520/
> ug/c2520trb.htm
> 
> and
> 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1903.htm#xtocid178
1610


I have a 2520 router that when it boots the OK LED stays lit but the
console produces no indication of boot activity. THe above articles
suggest checking the power supply, so I tried a known working PS
and got the same outcome.

I tried reseating the chips on the board...and even booting without them.

Seems like it must be a bad motherboard.  Anyone have any other
suggestions. Thanks!


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Redundant BGP Route Reflector Peers

2001-01-13 Thread Horton, Jeff

Hello all,

I was trying to build a BGP scenario in the lab where I had two routers, R1
& R2 that are both route reflectors. R3, R4, and R5 are route-reflector
clients. R1 and R2 are both in cluster ID 100. Peer groups are set up for
both route reflectors and route reflector clients. The idea was that should
R1 or R2 fail, the routes would still be reflected to the clients. R1 and R2
are able to ping R3, R4, and R5 just fine.

Loopbacks are 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, 3.3.3.3, etc. On RR clients R3 , R4, and R5
I also have 30.30.30.3, 40.40.40.4, 50.50.50.5 that are advertised in BGP. I
seem to have mixed results and I am not quite sure where I have gone wrong.
R3 routes seem to be reflected but not R4 or R5. 

I would appreciate suggestions. 

Thanks,

Jeff

R1
router ospf 1
 network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router bgp 1
 no synchronization
 bgp cluster-id 100
 neighbor reflectors peer-group
 neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
 neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
 neighbor clients peer-group
 neighbor clients remote-as 1
 neighbor clients ebgp-multihop 255
 neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
 neighbor clients route-reflector-client
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 peer-group reflectors
 neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
 neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
 neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
 no auto-summary
!

R2
router ospf 1
 network 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router bgp 1
 no synchronization
 bgp cluster-id 100
 neighbor clients peer-group
 neighbor clients remote-as 1
 neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
 neighbor clients route-reflector-client
 neighbor reflectors peer-group
 neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
 neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 peer-group reflectors
 neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
 neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
 neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
 no auto-summary
!

R3
router ospf 1
 network 3.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router bgp 1
 no synchronization
 network 3.3.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
 network 30.30.30.0 mask 255.255.255.0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
 no auto-summary

R4
router ospf 1
 network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router bgp 1
 no synchronization
 network 4.4.4.0 mask 255.255.255.0
 network 40.40.40.4 mask 255.255.255.0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
 no auto-summary

R5
router ospf 1
 network 5.5.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
router bgp 1
 no synchronization
 network 5.5.5.0 mask 255.255.255.0
 network 50.50.50.0 mask 255.255.255.0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
 no auto-summary



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Re: BSCN Study Guide

2001-01-13 Thread David L. Blair

Go find another list to annoy and steal from!!

-dlb

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RE: Useful things to do with trolls

2001-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Ip route swallow nicht 0  ???

The ladened versus unladened must have something to do with traffic
shaping.

-Original Message-
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Natasha
Sent:   Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:46 AM
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Subject:Re: Useful things to do with trolls

Then you have the question of An African swallow, or a European Swallow.
The European being slightly faster at Approximately 28 kilometers per
hour.
Whereas the African at Approximately 21 kilometers per hour.
Both unladen of course.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> If you refer to swallows instead, they'll probably be able to recognize
the
> reference slightly faster.
>
> "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/13/2001
05:15:13
> AM
>
> Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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>
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> Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
>
> The secret to passing The Lab is not to ask the proctor "what kind of a
> sparrow" but to tell the proctor what you know of the several species of
> sparrow, the velocities of each, and then ask which one he would prefer
;->
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of
> Ray
> Mosely
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 PM
> To:  Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
>
> What kind of sparrow?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Howard C. Berkowitz
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Useful things to do with trolls
>
> >I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these,
> sometimes
> >the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.
> This
> >is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days,
> >anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they
don't,
> >then into the kill file they go.
> >
> >just my $.01 after taxes,
> >John
>
> Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying
> bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge.
> Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is
> preprogrammed to ask:
>
>  "what is your name?
>  "what is your quest?
>  "what is the velocity of the sparrow?
>
> Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement?
>
> >
> >>
> >>   Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a
name
> >for
> >>   the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your
> list,
> >>   you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll
> and
> >>   get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time
> >>   worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack,
> and
> >>   if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then
> >>   you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and
time
> >>   that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
> >  >
>
> Andy
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Re: troubleshooting a 2520 boot problem

2001-01-13 Thread Circusnuts

Buy a SmartNet for $298 (which is what my 2511 contract cost).  I had a
bouncing Serial interface & instead of a repairing the router, Cisco a unit.

Good Luck !!!
Phil
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> Can we assume that you have tried the same terminal software and console
> cable on a working router?
> Regarding power supplies. Sometimes the pins on the motherboard become
> covered with a residue. Use something abrasive to clean them before
> attaching the power supply. It has worked for me on PCs.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: info [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 2:03 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: troubleshooting a 2520 boot problem
> >
> >
> > I've been reading from:
> >
> > http://www-ks.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/KSBE/cisco/data/doc/hardwar
> > e/access/2520/
> > ug/c2520trb.htm
> >
> > and
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1903.htm#xtocid178
> 1610
>
>
> I have a 2520 router that when it boots the OK LED stays lit but the
> console produces no indication of boot activity. THe above articles
> suggest checking the power supply, so I tried a known working PS
> and got the same outcome.
>
> I tried reseating the chips on the board...and even booting without them.
>
> Seems like it must be a bad motherboard.  Anyone have any other
> suggestions. Thanks!
>
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Re: Livingston PortMaster 2e Comm Server for CCIE lab?

2001-01-13 Thread Jay Swan

Portmasters speak RIP, OSPF, and BGP, so you might be able to use it to add
some extra complications to your router setup. Only one ethernet interface,
but if it's one of the ones with a WAN card maybe you could figure out some
way to utilize that in the lab as well.

Jay

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> in adding a Livingston PortMaster 2e to a CCIE practice lab
> I am building? I have one sitting aroundI grabbed a document
> describing it at the Lucent (they bought livingston) websitebut I
> don't see how it could be useful.  ..any comments are appreciated.
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RE: CCIE Written Beta results -

2001-01-13 Thread Brant Stevens

Press Your Luck was the coolest gameshow ever!!!  lol...

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I received my results yesterday as well.  I also missed it by 2 points.
(grumble grumble)  I actually should feel pretty good about it, because I
took it on a whim. I passed the R/S CCIE Written the prior week and decided
to "Press my luck" for on the security test without any studying.
Unfortunately I got the "Whammy".  It was well worth the $50, though.
Others have said that the silver lining here is that we can now really
focus on the R/S lab.  However, as I am starting to work towards security
as a specialization for my career, I'm not going to be able to pull myself
away.  However, being that there is apparently some security showing up in
the lab, there is definitely overlap. Does anyone have any idea as to
whether that will change when the Security lab comes out?

Matthew C. Sypherd
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Bill Parenteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com
01/12/2001 06:00 PM





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I got mine yesterday.   I came close, 63%, but I take
this as a sign that I should do some more studying.
I got a 20% on OS and 40 on App protocols.

Bill


--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got mine today. I never thought I'd be happy about
> failing a test, but in
> this case, it is so.
>
> One lab is bad enough.
>
> My score was 53. Nigel - were you around there? My
> breakdowns averaged out
> about what your did.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Nigel Taylor
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> Subject: CCIE Written Beta results -
>
> All,
> I don't know if anyone else got their Score
> Report but I received =
> mines yesterday and I'm still in denial.  Yes,
> denial!  When I took the =
> exam I really felt that the test itself was
> reasonable and well written. =
> I must admit that when taking the exam it almost
> felt like the R&S exam =
> with a bunch of security.  In any event I missed the
> grade.  From the =
> score sheet it does shoe me that I was week in
> security and Application =
> protocols.  Well here's the breakdown;
>
> Security Protocols:  45 (Ouch...!)
> Operating Systems: 60
> Application Protocols:  30 (Ouch...!)
> General Networking: 75
> Security Technologies: 40 (Ouch..!)
> Security General: 90
> Cisco General:   100 (weee heee.!)
> Cisco Sec. Apps: 50 (Umm..)
>
> As I said I surely failed this exam because of my
> overall weakness in =
> Security.  Oh yes before I forget... the=20
> passing mark was tagged at 65% and I only got a 57%.
>  like I said I =
> thought it was a pretty good test and=20
> before receiving this report.. "I thought" I
> did
>
> In say that I'm drawn to remember a funny saying
> about the man that =
> "thought"... :->
>
> Review over...
>
> Nigel..
>
>
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RE: CCIE Written test questions

2001-01-13 Thread Anthony J Crews

Sportsfan,
I guess you would be the Cisco Police.  I really would like to know what you
got out of the post below?  Do you think Cisco is going to hunt you down and
give you a brownie for being righteous?

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Elijah,

I cannot believe what you just posted here.  Did you even read the Security
Agreement on that test?  You must have a friend at the test center that let
you leave with a nice copy of the questions.

I'm sure you are trying to cover your tracks using hotmail, and probably a
fake name, but I hope Cisco hunts you down and suspends all your
certifications.  They should do the same to the test center.

Jon



Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 02:31:35
From: "Elijah Landreth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:


Took CCIE today. It was much easier than I expected. Not to say that there
is not a lot of material on the test. Here is 50 or so questions that I
recommend you know the answers to ;) I would love to hear about any specific
questions that anyone else has come across in thier written experience.
Would also to be curios to know the answers to questions 7, 17, 22, 23, 26,
36 and 39.

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Re: Useful things to do with trolls

2001-01-13 Thread Kevin Welch

A couple RFC's on this subject  :)

RFC 1149:   A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian
Carriers
http://sunsite.dk/RFC/rfc/rfc1149.html

 and

RFC 2549: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
http://sunsite.dk/RFC/rfc/rfc2549.html


-- Kevin

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> Ip route swallow nicht 0  ???
>
> The ladened versus unladened must have something to do with traffic
> shaping.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Natasha
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Useful things to do with trolls
>
> Then you have the question of An African swallow, or a European Swallow.
> The European being slightly faster at Approximately 28 kilometers per
> hour.
> Whereas the African at Approximately 21 kilometers per hour.
> Both unladen of course.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > If you refer to swallows instead, they'll probably be able to recognize
> the
> > reference slightly faster.
> >
> > "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 01/13/2001
> 05:15:13
> > AM
> >
> > Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore)
> > Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > The secret to passing The Lab is not to ask the proctor "what kind of a
> > sparrow" but to tell the proctor what you know of the several species of
> > sparrow, the velocities of each, and then ask which one he would prefer
> ;->
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of
> > Ray
> > Mosely
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 3:11 PM
> > To:  Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  RE: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > What kind of sparrow?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Howard C. Berkowitz
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Useful things to do with trolls
> >
> > >I agree.  When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these,
> > sometimes
> > >the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button.
> > This
> > >is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of
days,
> > >anyway" philosophy.  Ignore trolls and they often go away.  If they
> don't,
> > >then into the kill file they go.
> > >
> > >just my $.01 after taxes,
> > >John
> >
> > Bringing the subject back to networking, remember, when studying
> > bridging, that a troll traditionally is the layer below the bridge.
> > Unfortunately, no bridge management tool of which I am aware is
> > preprogrammed to ask:
> >
> >  "what is your name?
> >  "what is your quest?
> >  "what is the velocity of the sparrow?
> >
> > Is implementing this capability a potential CCIE lab requirement?
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>   Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a
> name
> > >for
> > >>   the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your
> > list,
> > >>   you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the
troll
> > and
> > >>   get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much
time
> > >>   worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a
crack,
> > and
> > >>   if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't,
then
> > >>   you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and
> time
> > >>   that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard...
> > >  >
> >
> > Andy
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Re: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48

2001-01-13 Thread Ken

I may be on to my own answer.  I will add the information here in case it
comes up again. I have discovered that RJ connectors are actually defined in
the Code of Federal Regulations, which seems an odd place to me.
Specifically at Title 47 Chapter 1 Part 68, which is available online at
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/47cfr68_00.html

The relevant information appears to be in 68.500 and 68.502. I will be
reading these. If anyone has any other information, please let me know.

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> I found one thread in the archives on this general subject, but it did not
> entirely answer what I need to know. I need to know what the difference is
> between a RJ-45 and RJ-48 connectors. In particular are there physical
> dimension differences in the two. I have seen both used to connect a T1
> demarc to a CSU/DSU. But I have been told that the RJ-48 is slightly
> different than the RJ-45. As such the electrical contacts may not reliably
> match up and cause unexpected connection problems. So is there an actual
> physical difference in the two? If so, exactly what?
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Re: Redundant BGP Route Reflector Peers

2001-01-13 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, Jeff

I think one thing might cause the trouble.

1. "ebgp-multihop" should not be used between iBGP peers.
  Multihops between iBGP peers are always allowed.

Thanks

Regards,
Jaeheon

On 13 Jan 2001 17:22:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Horton, Jeff")
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>Hello all,
>
>I was trying to build a BGP scenario in the lab where I had two routers, R1
>& R2 that are both route reflectors. R3, R4, and R5 are route-reflector
>clients. R1 and R2 are both in cluster ID 100. Peer groups are set up for
>both route reflectors and route reflector clients. The idea was that should
>R1 or R2 fail, the routes would still be reflected to the clients. R1 and R2
>are able to ping R3, R4, and R5 just fine.
>
>Loopbacks are 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, 3.3.3.3, etc. On RR clients R3 , R4, and R5
>I also have 30.30.30.3, 40.40.40.4, 50.50.50.5 that are advertised in BGP. I
>seem to have mixed results and I am not quite sure where I have gone wrong.
>R3 routes seem to be reflected but not R4 or R5. 
>
>I would appreciate suggestions. 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>
>R1
>router ospf 1
> network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>!
>router bgp 1
> no synchronization
> bgp cluster-id 100
> neighbor reflectors peer-group
> neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
> neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
> neighbor clients peer-group
> neighbor clients remote-as 1
> neighbor clients ebgp-multihop 255
> neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
> neighbor clients route-reflector-client
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 peer-group reflectors
> neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
> neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
> neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
> no auto-summary
>!
>
>R2
>router ospf 1
> network 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>!
>router bgp 1
> no synchronization
> bgp cluster-id 100
> neighbor clients peer-group
> neighbor clients remote-as 1
> neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
> neighbor clients route-reflector-client
> neighbor reflectors peer-group
> neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
> neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 peer-group reflectors
> neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
> neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
> neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
> no auto-summary
>!
>
>R3
>router ospf 1
> network 3.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>!
>router bgp 1
> no synchronization
> network 3.3.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> network 30.30.30.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> no auto-summary
>
>R4
>router ospf 1
> network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>!
>router bgp 1
> no synchronization
> network 4.4.4.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> network 40.40.40.4 mask 255.255.255.0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> no auto-summary
>
>R5
>router ospf 1
> network 5.5.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>!
>router bgp 1
> no synchronization
> network 5.5.5.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> network 50.50.50.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> no auto-summary
>
>
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Re: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48

2001-01-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>"Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  discoevered,



>I may be on to my own answer.  I will add the information here in case it
>comes up again. I have discovered that RJ connectors are actually defined in
>the Code of Federal Regulations, which seems an odd place to me.
>Specifically at Title 47 Chapter 1 Part 68, which is available online at
>http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/47cfr68_00.html

Frightening that I haven't thought about this for 25 years or so, but 
a bit of history may shed light on why you found these in an odd 
place.

RJ stands for Registered Jack. It appears in US regulatory literature 
as a consequence of the 1975 AT&T breakup and other actions such as 
the Carterfone Decision.  Prior to these, since The Phone Company 
owned everything, there was no need for a third-party vendor or for 
modularized customer interfaces.  With divestiture, however, the 
demarcation of responsibility between carrier and customer, or for 
third-party equipment to carrier, was needed.

While the RJ series had quite reasonable applications simply for 
wiring, legal pressures made them ubiquitous in the US.

>
>The relevant information appears to be in 68.500 and 68.502. I will be
>reading these. If anyone has any other information, please let me know.
>
>""Ken"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>  I found one thread in the archives on this general subject, but it did not
>>  entirely answer what I need to know. I need to know what the difference is
>>  between a RJ-45 and RJ-48 connectors. In particular are there physical
>>  dimension differences in the two. I have seen both used to connect a T1
>>  demarc to a CSU/DSU. But I have been told that the RJ-48 is slightly
>>  different than the RJ-45. As such the electrical contacts may not reliably
>>  match up and cause unexpected connection problems. So is there an actual
>  > physical difference in the two? If so, exactly what?

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Re: Router Serial Number

2001-01-13 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

On some of the smaller routers but not all.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Friday, January 12, 2001 at 01:34:38 PM, Jake wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> 'show version' on a switch (2900 or 3500) will show the switch's serial
> number (second to last line - right before the config-register).  Is there a
> similar way to find the serial number of a router?  I can't find it in the
> 'sh ver' output.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jake
> 
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RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client

2001-01-13 Thread Chris C. Burton

You need to have at least service pack 1 installed on the 2000 machine or it
will not work.  I currently use the Cisco VPN 5000 client, and it works just
fine.

Chris

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VanHaaren, Nicole
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Subject: RE: Cisco Secure VPN Client


Ok, so I have searched CCO, but can't find info on the beta
anywhereanyone have any idea how I can get my hands on this?
Thanks!


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Nicole,

The supplied VPN client won't run on W2K, You'll have to apply for the beta
version which is working fine for me so far.

Andy

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Subject:Cisco Secure VPN Client

Has anyone tried using this product?  It seems like it will not work with
Windows 2000...  I am getting an error when I try to run setup.exe on my
computer.  Does anyone have any ideas for a workaround?  Maybe a site with
other vpn client software?  I can't find a patch or any other info on CCO
regarding compatability with Win2000.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Nicole

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Re: OT: Little ID card

2001-01-13 Thread Curtis Call

I got one of those cards when I passed my CCNP.  I don't think I don't one 
for my CCNA but I might be wrong.

At 04:31 PM 1/12/01 +, you wrote:
>Don't want to sound too fussy, but,
>
>Now a days when you get your cisco cert do you still get the credit card 
>sized
>id card that says your name, cisco id, and the qualification you've got. 
>These
>sort of things are handy at interview time ! anyone passed CCNP and got 
>one of
>these let me know !
>
>Steve
>
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>B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA
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Re: OSPFadjacencies

2001-01-13 Thread Curtis Call

I'm not positive at what you're looking for, but if you are talking about 
the number of adjacencies that would be required to be fully meshed on a 
broadcast or NBMA network then the formula you're looking for is (N * (N-1) 
) / 2.  Of course this doesn't happen in OSPF since it uses DRs and BDRs in 
order to avoid having to have so many full adjacencies, so in OSPF each 
router (excluding the DR and BDR) has only two full adjacencies, one with 
the DR and one with the BDR and it is in a 2-way state with the rest of 
it's neighbors.

Did that answer your question?

At 01:38 PM 1/12/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am drawing a blank and am trying to remember the formula to figure the
>number of adjacencies a router would have.
>
>I know it's a simple question, I am just drawing a blank.
>
>Thank You,
>
>-Eric
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RE: switch flow control

2001-01-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Just wanted to put this discussion into a summary form. Hoping that I have
learned something. Hoping to help others learn something.

The original question can be generalized to this:

Host_1--Device---Host_2

Host one is transmitting at 100 mbs and host two can only receive at 10 mbs

The question is "what happens to the excess packets when Device is
overloaded like this?"

S wrote out the following table:

If Device is:   what happens is:

Repeaterjust does what it's told. If the wire is full it is higher 
layers
that deal with it

EthernetCSMA/CD determines what goes onto the wire in the first place.
Collisions will occur. Or bits won't get onto the wire in the first place
because the medium is saturated. Medium MTU effects Host_1 transmission rate
as well.


Token ring  possession of the token determines a stations ability to transmit
data. Medium MTU is a factor here as well.

Frame relay if a frame switch is saturated, packets are dropped and FECN's
and BECN's are generated

ATM I believe that the admissions control process limits the acceptance of
cells into the ATM switch. Correct me if I am wrong here.


I find I am a bit shaky on 100VG, X.25 ( like I care, since it isn't on the
Lab any more :-> ), and HDLC

Lastly, the issue the original post raised - a switch.

In the reading of the this thread, and the reading of some of the
references, what I am determining is that if there is some kind of
flow control mechanism, it comes probably in the form of the switch creating
false collisions on the port of the sender, so as to stop it
from overflowing the switch buffers.

The point being that in terms of layer two, the general means of dealing
with too much input and not enough output is still generally speaking,
massive dropping of excess packets, or some limitation of the medium itself
to limit acceptance of new packets onto the medium.

Which is as it should be, I would think.

Any comments? Does this make sense?

Chuck



-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Flem
Sent:   Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:56 PM
To: Chuck Larrieu
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: switch flow control

One of us needs a pair of glasses ;-) I read ;

minimal specification for asymetric flow control

Has to do with flow control.

If you say a device to pause , process the buffers and
then release the pause is indeed a minimal form of
flow control .

I never played with set port flowcontrol so I getting
impressed 

I loved the old style no buffer , drop packet .
Things are really getting more complex is it not ?


flem

--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guys, this "pause" frame does not appear to have
> anything whatsoever to do
> with flow control of data transmission. Unless I am
> blind as a bat I am
> reading the link below to be referencing auto
> negotiation of links between
> NIC and switch or any device on a port and switch..
>
> Look, if a switch cannot output data as fast as it
> comes in, and the buffers
> fill, then packets get dropped. Same as with a
> router. or a PC.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Flem
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:17 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: switch flow control
>
> Or ;
>
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/z/public/presentations/jan1997/HFpsbits
> .pdf
>
> Written by a cisco guy ... you are rights cisco do
> implement it.
>
> flem
>
>
> --- Chris McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is true...sorry.  I was reading a cisco
> > document
> > on the Cat 6000s where they explained flow control
> > as
> > being 802.3Z flow control.  I screwed up...(see
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
> /ether.htm#xtocid170110)
> >  Come to think of it...it's called 802.1x
> > (http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1x.html).
> Cisco
> > supports it with some exceptions (set port
> > flowcontrol).
> >
> > Gu
> >
> > Chris M.
> >
> > --- Flem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 802.1Z ? or 802.3z ?
> > > This is gigabit stuff is it not ?
> > >
> > > Is cisco implementing 802.3z on his gigabit
> > > switches ? Don't think so .
> > > Switch will buffer , if no buffer , then drop
> > > packet.
> > >
> > > Do you know what vendor implements pause frames
> ?
> > >
> > >
> > > flem
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Chris McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 802.1Z or 'pause frames'
> > > >
> > > > Chris M.
> > > >
> > > > --- Flem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Between NIC and switch ?
> > > > > What is the name of this handshaking ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > flem
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Circusnuts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > I believe there is a handshake going on
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > switch & NIC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Original Message -
>

Re: question about ospf link state database synchronization process

2001-01-13 Thread Curtis Call

The slave will not set the M-bit to zero until it's database has been 
sent.  The master will keep sending a DD packet with a new sequence number 
and the M-bit to zero, and the slave will keep sending a DD packet in reply 
with the same sequence number and with LSA headers from it's database 
included but it will not change the M-bit to zero until the entire database 
has been sent.  At that point it will reply with a DD packet with the M-bit 
set to zero and the master will know that the exchange process is complete.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

At 12:49 PM 1/13/01 +0800, you wrote:
>I am confused with following:
>In ospf link state database synchronization process,When the master =
>sends last DD packet,the slave sends an acknowledging DD packet that =
>also has its M-bit set to zero.But if the slave has largger link state =
>database than master,slave's rest database will be ignored by the =
>master.
>How can the master get slave's rest database.Do they swap the =
>master/slave roll and again start a new synchronization process?
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Re: Redundant BGP Route Reflector Peers

2001-01-13 Thread Pamela Forsyth

EBGP multihop settings have nothing to do with route reflectors.  EBGP 
multihop just changes TTL values in the BGP packets going to an external 
neighbor.  That should not affect an iBGP relationship, barring a huge and 
ugly IOS bug.

Jeff, make sure you configure the cluster ID prior to establishing the 
neighbor relationships between the redundant reflectors in the cluster.  If 
that doesn't work consistently for you, be comforted in the fact that there 
are many anomalies in IOS version 12.0 BGP, assuming that may be what you 
are working with.  It may be necessary to reload routers to get this to work.

Pamela

At 06:53 PM 1/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, Jeff
>
>I think one thing might cause the trouble.
>
>1. "ebgp-multihop" should not be used between iBGP peers.
>   Multihops between iBGP peers are always allowed.
>
>Thanks
>
>Regards,
>Jaeheon
>
>On 13 Jan 2001 17:22:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Horton, Jeff")
>wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I was trying to build a BGP scenario in the lab where I had two routers, R1
> >& R2 that are both route reflectors. R3, R4, and R5 are route-reflector
> >clients. R1 and R2 are both in cluster ID 100. Peer groups are set up for
> >both route reflectors and route reflector clients. The idea was that should
> >R1 or R2 fail, the routes would still be reflected to the clients. R1 and R2
> >are able to ping R3, R4, and R5 just fine.
> >
> >Loopbacks are 1.1.1.1, 2.2.2.2, 3.3.3.3, etc. On RR clients R3 , R4, and R5
> >I also have 30.30.30.3, 40.40.40.4, 50.50.50.5 that are advertised in BGP. I
> >seem to have mixed results and I am not quite sure where I have gone wrong.
> >R3 routes seem to be reflected but not R4 or R5.
> >
> >I would appreciate suggestions.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >R1
> >router ospf 1
> > network 1.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >!
> >router bgp 1
> > no synchronization
> > bgp cluster-id 100
> > neighbor reflectors peer-group
> > neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
> > neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor clients peer-group
> > neighbor clients remote-as 1
> > neighbor clients ebgp-multihop 255
> > neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor clients route-reflector-client
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 peer-group reflectors
> > neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
> > neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
> > neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
> > no auto-summary
> >!
> >
> >R2
> >router ospf 1
> > network 2.2.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >!
> >router bgp 1
> > no synchronization
> > bgp cluster-id 100
> > neighbor clients peer-group
> > neighbor clients remote-as 1
> > neighbor clients update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor clients route-reflector-client
> > neighbor reflectors peer-group
> > neighbor reflectors remote-as 1
> > neighbor reflectors update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 peer-group reflectors
> > neighbor 3.3.3.3 peer-group clients
> > neighbor 4.4.4.4 peer-group clients
> > neighbor 5.5.5.5 peer-group clients
> > no auto-summary
> >!
> >
> >R3
> >router ospf 1
> > network 3.3.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >!
> >router bgp 1
> > no synchronization
> > network 3.3.3.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > network 30.30.30.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> > no auto-summary
> >
> >R4
> >router ospf 1
> > network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 172.168.14.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 192.168.23.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >!
> >router bgp 1
> > no synchronization
> > network 4.4.4.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > network 40.40.40.4 mask 255.255.255.0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> > no auto-summary
> >
> >R5
> >router ospf 1
> > network 5.5.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> > network 172.168.125.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> >!
> >router bgp 1
> > no synchronization
> > network 5.5.5.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > network 50.50.50.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 1.1.1.1 next-hop-self
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
> > neighbor 2.2.2.2 next-hop-self
> > no auto-summary
> >
> >
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T1 Configuration

2001-01-13 Thread Robert M. Cramer

I'm setting up a test lab and need assistance configuring two routers with
FT1 WICS.

2524 - WIC FT1
2610 - WIC FT1

Cross-over cables between the two routers:

My question is - What do I need to make sure is configured on both ends?


Signed,

Lost

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why the flash mem doesn't increase

2001-01-13 Thread Frank

I want to upgrade the ios ,and i want to keep the
vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin.
if i run "copy tftp flash",i have to erase the flash file system totally to
make room.
So i try to delete c5300-is-mz.120-7.T first ,but why the available mem
doesn;t increase,
and i reload the router ,no change,why ?/what does the mark [deleted] mean?


Thanks,

Frank

*
cisco#sh flash

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   7023036  c5300-is-mz.120-7.T
  2   8401248  c5300-is-mz.121-5.T.bin
  3   341960   vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin
[15766436 bytes used, 1010780 available, 16777216 total]
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

cisco#delete flash:c5300-is-mz.120-7.T
Delete filename [c5300-is-mz.120-7.T]?
Delete flash:c5300-is-mz.120-7.T? [confirm]

cisco#sh flash
System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   7023036  c5300-is-mz.120-7.T [deleted]
  2   8401248  c5300-is-mz.121-5.T.bin
  3   341960   vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin
[15766436 bytes used, 1010780 available, 16777216 total]
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)


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Re: why the flash mem doesn't increase

2001-01-13 Thread Frank

do i have to erase the flash totally to  upgrade the ios ,then copy the
vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin back?

"Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
93re40$ffa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:93re40$ffa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I want to upgrade the ios ,and i want to keep the
> vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin.
> if i run "copy tftp flash",i have to erase the flash file system totally
to
> make room.
> So i try to delete c5300-is-mz.120-7.T first ,but why the available mem
> doesn;t increase,
> and i reload the router ,no change,why ?/what does the mark [deleted]
mean?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank
>
> *
> cisco#sh flash
>
> System flash directory:
> File  Length   Name/status
>   1   7023036  c5300-is-mz.120-7.T
>   2   8401248  c5300-is-mz.121-5.T.bin
>   3   341960   vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin
> [15766436 bytes used, 1010780 available, 16777216 total]
> 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
>
> cisco#delete flash:c5300-is-mz.120-7.T
> Delete filename [c5300-is-mz.120-7.T]?
> Delete flash:c5300-is-mz.120-7.T? [confirm]
>
> cisco#sh flash
> System flash directory:
> File  Length   Name/status
>   1   7023036  c5300-is-mz.120-7.T [deleted]
>   2   8401248  c5300-is-mz.121-5.T.bin
>   3   341960   vcw-vfc-mz.c549.mc.7.23.bin
> [15766436 bytes used, 1010780 available, 16777216 total]
> 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
>
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about voip dial-peer

2001-01-13 Thread Frank

On an origination only AS5300 gateway, i just need to configure VOIP peers
,right?
On a distribution only AS5300 gateway, i just need to configure  pots peers
,right?







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Re: DSL Questions

2001-01-13 Thread info

http://www.nwfusion.com/research/dsl.html

"Travis Parrill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I am looking for some information on DSL.  I'm working to deploy DSL at an
> ISP.
>
> I have questions on the IP addressing and subnetting of DSL subscibers.
>
> What is the common or standard way to assign IP's to DSL subscibers?  Can
> you setup Point-to-points to the dslam or is there a more logical way to
do
> this?
>
> What is the ratio of DSL customers to port?  If each customers is given
> 128K,  how many DSL customers can I have per T1?  Can I over subscibe that
> port and still provide quality service?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
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RE: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48

2001-01-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

RJ-48 is similar to RJ-45 except that it has a key on the side of the jack.
A RJ-45 plug would fit a RJ-48 jack but a RJ-48 plug would not fit a RJ-45
jack. See the following for a physical view of a keyed plug.
http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/AMP/docs/pdf/6/39/195936.pdf

Just checked out an Atran CSU/DSU. Its Network (T-1) jack is referred to as
an (USOC)RJ-48C. AMP#555164-2. It is keyed.

Having said that, I seem to remember a similar discussion some while back
where it was said that the RJ specs referred to usage rather than physical
characteristics.

> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48
> 
> 
> >"Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  discoevered,
> 
> 
> 
> >I may be on to my own answer.  I will add the information 
> here in case it
> >comes up again. I have discovered that RJ connectors are 
> actually defined in
> >the Code of Federal Regulations, which seems an odd place to me.
> >Specifically at Title 47 Chapter 1 Part 68, which is 
> available online at
> >http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/47cfr68_00.html
> 
> Frightening that I haven't thought about this for 25 years or so, but 
> a bit of history may shed light on why you found these in an odd 
> place.
> 
> RJ stands for Registered Jack. It appears in US regulatory literature 
> as a consequence of the 1975 AT&T breakup and other actions such as 
> the Carterfone Decision.  Prior to these, since The Phone Company 
> owned everything, there was no need for a third-party vendor or for 
> modularized customer interfaces.  With divestiture, however, the 
> demarcation of responsibility between carrier and customer, or for 
> third-party equipment to carrier, was needed.
> 
> While the RJ series had quite reasonable applications simply for 
> wiring, legal pressures made them ubiquitous in the US.
> 
> >
> >The relevant information appears to be in 68.500 and 68.502. 
> I will be
> >reading these. If anyone has any other information, please 
> let me know.
> >
> >""Ken"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>  I found one thread in the archives on this general 
> subject, but it did not
> >>  entirely answer what I need to know. I need to know what 
> the difference is
> >>  between a RJ-45 and RJ-48 connectors. In particular are 
> there physical
> >>  dimension differences in the two. I have seen both used 
> to connect a T1
> >>  demarc to a CSU/DSU. But I have been told that the RJ-48 
> is slightly
> >>  different than the RJ-45. As such the electrical contacts 
> may not reliably
> >>  match up and cause unexpected connection problems. So is 
> there an actual
> >  > physical difference in the two? If so, exactly what?
> 
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unable to telnet unless clear xlate

2001-01-13 Thread Brian R. Keith, Sr

In the pix config it says I can telnet to the inside IP address  from
another IP address.  Often when I do this I get:
$ telnet (ip address)
Trying...
telnet: connect: A remote host did not respond within the timeout
period.

Then I get on the console.and do a show xlate (no data appears) yet
I do a  clear xlate and then I can get onto the pix  immediately.  But
if I divert my attention for a couple of minutesI am hung and must
hit X to get out of the telnet session and then go to the console and
clear xlate again.   If I timeout and try again I usually need to clear
xlate again from the console.  This has happened repeatedly and I am
getting reports of other 9net addresses hanging when attempting to get
thru the firewall also..causing  their application on port 5461  to
timeout.

I do not see my attempts that fail in the log.only those that get
established.  How can I fix this?

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RE: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48

2001-01-13 Thread Ken Chipps

To Daniel

Yes, from further research I believe it does have more to do the way the
connector is wired and then used rather than the physical shape and size of
the connector.

To Howard
When I saw it in the CFR, I thought that it must relate back to the
Carterphone decision and all of the deregulation, but what a strange place
to find telecommunications connector specifications.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Daniel Cotts
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48


RJ-48 is similar to RJ-45 except that it has a key on the side of the jack.
A RJ-45 plug would fit a RJ-48 jack but a RJ-48 plug would not fit a RJ-45
jack. See the following for a physical view of a keyed plug.
http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/AMP/docs/pdf/6/39/195936.pdf

Just checked out an Atran CSU/DSU. Its Network (T-1) jack is referred to as
an (USOC)RJ-48C. AMP#555164-2. It is keyed.

Having said that, I seem to remember a similar discussion some while back
where it was said that the RJ specs referred to usage rather than physical
characteristics.

> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Physical Difference Between RJ45 and RJ48
>
>
> >"Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  discoevered,
>
>
>
> >I may be on to my own answer.  I will add the information
> here in case it
> >comes up again. I have discovered that RJ connectors are
> actually defined in
> >the Code of Federal Regulations, which seems an odd place to me.
> >Specifically at Title 47 Chapter 1 Part 68, which is
> available online at
> >http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_00/47cfr68_00.html
>
> Frightening that I haven't thought about this for 25 years or so, but
> a bit of history may shed light on why you found these in an odd
> place.
>
> RJ stands for Registered Jack. It appears in US regulatory literature
> as a consequence of the 1975 AT&T breakup and other actions such as
> the Carterfone Decision.  Prior to these, since The Phone Company
> owned everything, there was no need for a third-party vendor or for
> modularized customer interfaces.  With divestiture, however, the
> demarcation of responsibility between carrier and customer, or for
> third-party equipment to carrier, was needed.
>
> While the RJ series had quite reasonable applications simply for
> wiring, legal pressures made them ubiquitous in the US.
>
> >
> >The relevant information appears to be in 68.500 and 68.502.
> I will be
> >reading these. If anyone has any other information, please
> let me know.
> >
> >""Ken"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:93ouel$gnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>  I found one thread in the archives on this general
> subject, but it did not
> >>  entirely answer what I need to know. I need to know what
> the difference is
> >>  between a RJ-45 and RJ-48 connectors. In particular are
> there physical
> >>  dimension differences in the two. I have seen both used
> to connect a T1
> >>  demarc to a CSU/DSU. But I have been told that the RJ-48
> is slightly
> >>  different than the RJ-45. As such the electrical contacts
> may not reliably
> >>  match up and cause unexpected connection problems. So is
> there an actual
> >  > physical difference in the two? If so, exactly what?
>
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Re: unable to telnet unless clear xlate

2001-01-13 Thread J Roysdon

More information about your networks would help us.  Can you give us a
general topology map of your PIX & routers?  Also, what model PIX and
software?

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""Brian R. Keith, Sr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In the pix config it says I can telnet to the inside IP address  from
> another IP address.  Often when I do this I get:
> $ telnet (ip address)
> Trying...
> telnet: connect: A remote host did not respond within the timeout
> period.
>
> Then I get on the console.and do a show xlate (no data appears) yet
> I do a  clear xlate and then I can get onto the pix  immediately.  But
> if I divert my attention for a couple of minutesI am hung and must
> hit X to get out of the telnet session and then go to the console and
> clear xlate again.   If I timeout and try again I usually need to clear
> xlate again from the console.  This has happened repeatedly and I am
> getting reports of other 9net addresses hanging when attempting to get
> thru the firewall also..causing  their application on port 5461  to
> timeout.
>
> I do not see my attempts that fail in the log.only those that get
> established.  How can I fix this?
>
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Re: T1 Configuration

2001-01-13 Thread J Roysdon

The linecode & framing should match, clocking should internal on one,
line/network on the other.  The commands and where you set these depend on
your WIC version.

WIC 2-MFT1-DI syntax:
controller T1 0/0
 framing esf
 clock source internal
 linecode b8zs
 channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24 speed 64
 no shutdown

The WIC T1 as you have will default framing esf & linecode b8zs (never hurts
to specify though), and will require clocking specified at one end as
internal (line/network is always the default):
interface Serial0/0
 service-module t1 framing esf
 service-module t1 clock source internal
 service-module t1 linecode b8zs
! no need to specify DS0's if you're using a full T1,
! but it's good to know the syntax for when you run into fractional:
 service-module t1 timeslots 1-24 speed 64
 no shutdown

R1 - clock source internal
 |
R2 - clock source line (default)

Remember that the T1 crossover is pins 1&2 with 4&5, and not an ethernet
crossover (1&3 with 2&6).

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> I'm setting up a test lab and need assistance configuring two routers with
> FT1 WICS.
>
> 2524 - WIC FT1
> 2610 - WIC FT1
>
> Cross-over cables between the two routers:
>
> My question is - What do I need to make sure is configured on both ends?
>
>
> Signed,
>
> Lost
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