Re: [Timed Access Lists]

[Ravi Kumar]

hi friends

I am also looking for this type of solution

I want to give www access to specific users at one time and other group of
users at another time.

Please give me few tips.

bye
ravee




[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Metz) wrote:
Has anyone ever used timed access lists?

I'm wondering if I can specify multiple times and days and still process
through the list or will I exit the list after a test condition is
compared... This is getting hard to verbalize but I'll give it a shot...

ie:

I want to limit www browsing on one time schedule during the week and a
different time schedule during the weekend.

Setting up two time ranges is not a problem

Now I need to write the access list

deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekdays
deny tcp any any eq http time-range no-http-weekends
permit ip any any

will this work or will http traffic exit the list after the first test
condition?


Thanks

Tim

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Re: Early Token release

[Nathan Casassa]

Early Token Release will release the token when the last bit of the frame has been sent
out:



Faisal Athar wrote:

> Hi,
> Please solve my confusion for this as I am getting different answers from
> different resources..
>
> Early token release
>
> (1) allows one token and more than one frames.
> (2) Allows more than one token and more than one frames.
> (3)allows more than two tokens and one data frame.
>
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>
> Faisal.
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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Lou Nelson]

I listed mine this way..
·   CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional, Jun 2000
·   CCDA - Cisco Certified Design Associate, Sept 1999
·   CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate, May 1999

I liked the way it showed progress

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Robert Padjen
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Certifications on resumes


I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.

I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
no, list it all.

Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
improper use of the board.

Thanks.

=
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Re: Flash partitions merged?

[Frank Wells]

First erase the second partition with 'erase flash'.  You will be prompted 
for the info it needs. Once you have successfully done that, go to global 
config and type 'partition flash 1 16'



>From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Flash partitions merged?
>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 05:12:03 -
>
>Does anyone know how to make a router with 2 / 8Mb partitions into 1 / 16Mb
>partition (Flash)?
>
>Also just for kicks, I was wondering if you can load 2 IOS's on the 2
>partitions and then set something like Microsofts arc path to say boot from
>this partition, and switch between the partitions?
>
> >>>Brian
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Re: Altiga Question

[Manoj Ghorpade]

Hi Group,
I finally managed to get my Certificate Server Talking  (2000)  to Altiga and in terms
the client runs of the certificate issued by the Server.
Thans to you all .

BTW :-
I spoke to a CISCO rep.  at the TAC in Sydney and he helped me a lot with .
Cisco has a good trainig document which helped me get it up in 10 mins, for which I had
been workig for 2 days.

Hoping to talk to Microsoft  rep. where I still have a case open on the same thing.

Regards

Manoj Ghorpade

Manoj Ghorpade wrote:

> Hi Group,
> I'm facing problems setting up a VPN connection with Altiga and Windows
> 2000 CA server. (Using L2TP)
> Can anyone advise/suggest  the correct procedure of implementing the
> solutions ?
> Componets of of my Network are :-
>
> 1. A Cisco Router 3640
> 2. A Pix Firewall 515
> 3. Altiga 3000 VPN Concentrator
> 4. Switch 2948G- L3
> 5. Windows 2000 Advance Server.
>
> I run the NAT on PIX and currently have only ports 80,443,22 &1352 open.
>
> I followed the procedures :
> "Installing Digital Certificates on Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator" ,
> "Configuring the Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator for Microsoft Windows 2000
> Support" & "Using a Microsoft Windows 2000 Client to Connect to  the
> Cisco VPN 3000 Concentrator"
>
> These all references are download from the offical Cisco Web Site.
>
> After doing these a protocol error
> "Error 789 : The L2TP connection attempt  failed because the security
> layer encountered a processing error during initial negotiations with
> the remote computer."
> Also from the design perspective advise me where to keep the Certificate
> Server, like should it be in the DMZ or running in the internal network
> (does it really matter ?)
>
> On the Alitga, in the ESP-L2TP-TRANSPORT template, what are the settings
> that should be there ?
> The error may be related to the fact, that we accidently deleted the
> transport template and re-added it .
>
> Also advice the on how to setup the Windows 2000 Certificate Server ?
>
> Regards
>
> Manoj Ghorpade.
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: CCNP test order

[Traceroute]

Mine were switching, routing (toughest), remote (easiest) and support. Looks
like lots of "comfort level" exam taking which has always worked best for
me. Best-o-luck!
- Original Message -
From: "William E. Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Brian Ledbetter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: CCNP test order


> Well, for what its worth, I took and passed BSCN on Wednesday of this week
> and am taking Switching next followed by Support and wrapping things up
with
> Remote Access.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brian Ledbetter
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCNP test order
>
>
> Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
> I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but
I
> was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
> preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).
>
> Thanks for the help -
>
> Brian
>
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RE: Flash partitions merged?

[謝建成]

Yes, you can. 

Example 1: make a built-in flash with 2 partiton(8Mb each) into 1 partiton

Router#conf t
Router(config)#partition ?
  WORD  Partition system flash devices
Router(config)#partition flash:
Router(config)#partition flash: ?
  <1-8>  Number of partitions in device
Router(config)#partition flash: 1 ?
  <1-64>  Size of partition 1
  
Router(config)#partition flash: 1 16

Example 2: make a built-in flash with 1 partiton(16Mb) into 2 partiton(8Mb each)

Router(config)#partition flash: 2 16 16

Also, you can load 2 IOS into two partiton within a flash. This is a good 
for all mission critical router. 

Example 3

Router(config)#boot system flash:1:c2600-12-7-.bin  
Router(config)boot system flash:2:c2600-11-3-.bin 

Router will boot from the first flash partition. If router could not find
that image, it will try the second flash partition.


Todd



-Original Message-
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Brian Lodwick
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flash partitions merged?


Does anyone know how to make a router with 2 / 8Mb partitions into 1 / 16Mb 
partition (Flash)?

Also just for kicks, I was wondering if you can load 2 IOS's on the 2 
partitions and then set something like Microsofts arc path to say boot from 
this partition, and switch between the partitions?

>>>Brian
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OT: RE: Certifications on resumes

[Bill Sucevic]

To ellaborate on what you were saying, because many recruiting firms scan
the resumes into a database, and index them based on key words (certs,
protocols, etc.), it is sometimes best to send them a text copy of a
detailed resume, for archiving into their database, and offer the recruiter
that you are working with a "formal" copy of a scaled down, single page,
well formatted, professional looking resume that looks good printed out,
for sending to the potential employers.

I've used every trick possible within MS Word to fit as much as I possibly
can onto a single piece of paper.  I've changed the line spacing to be less
than one, I've changed the space between letters, maxed out the margins,
changed the point size of the font (I'm currently using 9 point Arial,
anything smaller would require a magnifying glass), and I even eliminated
the common practice of placing an email line in the header to gain an extra
line at the bottom.

BTW, I once had an interviewer make a quiz based on what I claimed to have
experience with on my resume.  Since I have used the same resume for 8
years, and have only added to it, there were alot of things on there that I
have not worked with in a long time.  I passed the quiz, only missing one
question.  The interviewer explained that over half the people he
interviews fail to get a passing score on a quiz based on what they claim
to know on their resumes.

So remember to NOT include things that you may have completely forgotten,
or are completely obsolete, when listing your skills.  

Examples:  Arcnet, VMS, PDP-11, MS-DOS 3.3, X.25, Localtalk, LAT, XNS,
Vines...



At 11:23 AM 1/26/01 -0600, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
>I am the Systems Network Manager for an enterprise that has several
>recruiting companies under them, which I am responsible for also. Some of
>these companies simply scan resumees into a special designed application,
>and everytime they need a candidate, the use the search function.
>
>That means that if they need someone with TCP/IP skills and a CCNA cert, you
>will not be shown in the results window if you only put your CCNP cert on
>your resume.
>
>I know that many companies like resumees to be 1 or max 2 pages long, but
>you have to kind of throw it in the air and "smell" what would be the best
>thing to do in each individual situation.
>
>I like to have different versions of my resume, so it mainly shows the area
>that matches the job functions I am applying for.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
>
>
> Ole Drews Jensen
> Systems Network Manager
> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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> http://www.oledrews.com/job
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brandon Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:59 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes
>
>
>My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean
>page - though it sometimes goes over a little.
>
>If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many
>CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds
>a lot of paper right there.  Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating
>system, and equipment list some people include.  It doesn't leave much room
>to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in
>the long run.
>
>I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean"
>resume issue.  Is there a conflict?
>
>I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or
>so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with
>footnotes and a bibliography.  I know most of my MBA friends would say it's
>all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as
>possible. heh
>
>I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think?  I'll be
>sure to bring this up with him when I see him.
>
>One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea
>what the certs mean (but do they mean anything?  that's a whole other topic
>right there).
>
>My $.02,
>
>Brandon - holder of various acronyms
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM
>> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus
>> Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>> 
>> 
>> I have done something similar as Ole,
>> 
>> On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams 
>> passed and
>> courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification 
>> I note that in
>> brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)
>> 
>> On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a 
>> track.  The same for
>> my business card, the senior certs only.
>> 
>> But on job boards I check off every single cert due to 
>> sear

Re: I got a date!

[Nathan Casassa]

Not to be negative, but typically when you just start getting ready for the lab in a
short time span like this, I would say prepare on scheduling your next date to take it
again (nothing directed towards you, but this why there is an 80-85% fail rate)
Do you have any hardware to practice on, or are you going in blind?

louieb wrote:

> Take 3 and 1/2 months off and then PANIC
>
> LAB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Francisco Muniz
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: I got a date!
>
> And june 18 it is CCIE lab, in SP.
> Now comes the fun part... How do you prepare for the lab in 4 months?
> Thanks group! I would not have made it here without your support.
>
> Francisco
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Re: Flash partitions merged?

[Nathan Casassa]

You have to be sure you have deleted any files from flash #2, then "no partition" the
simms and you can turn them both into one 16Mb space.

Brian Lodwick wrote:

> Does anyone know how to make a router with 2 / 8Mb partitions into 1 / 16Mb
> partition (Flash)?
>
> Also just for kicks, I was wondering if you can load 2 IOS's on the 2
> partitions and then set something like Microsofts arc path to say boot from
> this partition, and switch between the partitions?
>
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Re: CCNP test order

[Kevin Welch]

I had alot of support experience and hands on switching experience when I
started on the CCNP path.
I am taking the tests in the following order.

Support, Switching, Remote Access and Routing.

I am taking the BCRAN Friday Feb 16. Then studying alot of BGP before I
attempt routing.

-- Kevin


- Original Message -
From: "Brian Ledbetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: CCNP test order


> Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
> I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but
I
> was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
> preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).
>
> Thanks for the help -
>
> Brian
>
>
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RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN

[* *]

The Quiggle & Thomas book for BSCN is horrible!  I've been talking to the 
senior editor of McGraw-Hill/Osborne for a couple of weeks.  He maintains 
that he'll make all errors go away but I want the book to go away.

I thought the errata (4 pages, single spaced) was a little too much but I 
dealt with it.  Then as I read through the pages, not only did I find 
blatant errors in the diagrams (that were not included in the errata), but 
the grammar in the book was unreal, too.

Then I got ta thinkin' (error noted).  Why did the company not edit the book 
a little more before releasing it?  Was it because it knew that the faster 
the release, the quicker the profit?  Then on top of that, I wondered how 
they caught so many errors but missed others?  Important configuration 
errors?  It's painfully obvious now that the editors and writers (and I know 
they read this list) really were motivated more by profit and "being first" 
on the release than writing a good, quality book.

Unfortunately for me I bought the series of books and some I have now owned 
for more than 30 days.  I can't take them back for refunds.  I got screwed 
this time but won't again.  I won't touch another book by these group again.

Rob Montgomery



>From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN
>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 05:14:26 -
>
>BCRAN book by Adam Quiggle & Thomas Thomas was really good I thought.
>
> >>>Brian
>
> >From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Tom Keough'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:36:43 -0600
> >
> >Congratulations,
> >
> >Follow the CiscoKing link below and select Remote Access 2.0.
> >
> >Hth,
> >
> >Ole
> >
> >
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> >  NEED A JOB ???
> >  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Tom Keough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:17 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Please recommend books for BCRAN
> >
> >
> >Thank you for your help and encouragement, I passed BCMSN with a score of
> >857 today!!  I am now at the halfway point and it feels sooo good.
> >
> >Please recommend books and any advice for BCRAN will be greatly
> >appreciated...
> >
> >I know everyone who takes one of these tests gets a different compilation
> >but mine today was full of VTP questions...
> >Again thanks for being there,
> >Tom
> >
> >--
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RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN

[Brian Lodwick]

BCRAN book by Adam Quiggle & Thomas Thomas was really good I thought.

>>>Brian

>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Tom Keough'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:36:43 -0600
>
>Congratulations,
>
>Follow the CiscoKing link below and select Remote Access 2.0.
>
>Hth,
>
>Ole
>
>
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
>
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Tom Keough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:17 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Please recommend books for BCRAN
>
>
>Thank you for your help and encouragement, I passed BCMSN with a score of
>857 today!!  I am now at the halfway point and it feels sooo good.
>
>Please recommend books and any advice for BCRAN will be greatly
>appreciated...
>
>I know everyone who takes one of these tests gets a different compilation
>but mine today was full of VTP questions...
>Again thanks for being there,
>Tom
>
>--
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>AT&T Global Network
>Managed Router Solutions
>Tier two support
>Tampa, Fl
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Flash partitions merged?

[Brian Lodwick]

Does anyone know how to make a router with 2 / 8Mb partitions into 1 / 16Mb 
partition (Flash)?

Also just for kicks, I was wondering if you can load 2 IOS's on the 2 
partitions and then set something like Microsofts arc path to say boot from 
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What's up with the CCIE lab newsgroup?

[Groupstudy]

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Re: IS IS

[Groupstudy]

Certainly is.

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Subject: IS IS


> Is IS-IS on the R/S lab exam?  Thanks.
>
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Re: Strange Router CPU Utilisation

[Hugh Pringle]

Try doing a sh processes cpu whil the high utilization occurs. This may add
some insight to what is causing the high utilization. I ahve seen a
misconfigured SNMP server cause a situation similar to this.

Hugh Pringle CCNA, CCDA


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> Hello, gang.
> I'd like to know if anyone has seen this behaviour of a 4505 (v.11.2)
where
> it is able to handle heavy traffic throughout the day with no more than a
> 50% cpu utilisation max but shows a few periods of spikes up to 98% when
> there is no WAN traffic say 4am or 9pm. These spikes show up as "outgoing"
> traffic which lasts ~15 to 20 mins on MRTG chart. Nothing shows up on the
> syslogs. I once tried sniffer before the router "crashed" and all i saw
was
> a build up of ICMP and "other" packets. My guess is this is because the
> router is not responding to client requests thus it keeps getting a barage
> of "ICMP". This only shows up on the ethernet ports, i.e. coming in from
e0,
> out e1 in reference to MRTG.
> Any ideas would help. Thanks.
>
> Elmer Deloso
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FS: Cat 5000/2901 switches from my lab

[jon . mccoy]

After re-organizing my lab, I find I have too many older Catalyst switches.
If someone's in need of them, I'd sure like to free up some space (and buy
some other toys).  These are located in the Seattle area, so a local buyer
would be ideal, otherwise I can package and ship.  I will hook them up for
internet access, for the buyer(s) to check them out.

I have two 2901's, each with Sup1 and a 10/100 module
I have a 5000 with a Sup1 and A/C PS, no other modules

I bought these at different times over the past two years, the 2901's for
use as workgroup switches, and the 5000 the CLSC test (not knowing it's the
same as the 2901's I already had).  I'm not in desperate need of cash, and
I've seen what they bring on ebay, so please don't waste both our time with
silly offers (and I'm not shipping them outside the US, either) -- however,
I'd rather see the go to someone else's lab, than collect dust in the
corner.

-jon-

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regarding ethernet frame size

[tom h hanks]

Hello Guys:
I want u to kindly guide me why there is a limitation on the frame size of ethernet 
that it cant be less than 64 bytes and greater that 1518. Also why there is limitation 
on ATM cell size of 53 bytes. 
Regards
John

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Re: Logging error

[Kevin Wigle]

are you using ip unnumbered on one of the interfaces??

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: Logging error


>
> Why would the log tell me that my Ethernet went down and report my serial
IP
> address?
>
>Serial INT IP
> Major Fri Jan 26 12:56:17  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  Jan 26 12:53:44
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> xxx: Jan 26 13:51:13: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> Ethernet0/0, changed state to down
>
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RE: Catalyst 5000 for home

[louieb]

You remember wrong, my Cat5000 Sup I supports trunking - ISL and Dot1Q.

LAB

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John Hardman
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Catalyst 5000 for home


Humm...

I remember reading one time that the SupI card's FE ports did not support
ISL or 1.Q trunks or ehterchannle either. Did I remember wrong?

TIA
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I


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> The Sup 1 and 10 meg card will do all you need for the lab.  Don't waste
the
> extra bucks on the 100MB card unless you plan on keeping the cat for
> personal use after you pass the lab.  When I bought mine, it had a sup I,
24
> port 10MB card, 12 port 100FX card and an ATM LANE module.  (Now that they
> have taken LANE off the lab, it looks like a big mistake). I've never used
> the 100 FX module and the ATM module is no longer needed.
>
> Be sure to keep several code release versions around as they tend to use
> older versions of code on the Cat's in the lab.
>
> LAB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Albert Lu
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:03 PM
> To: GroupStudy
> Subject: Catalyst 5000 for home
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to ask what's the minimum modules I need for a Cat5000 for a
> home lab?
>
> I'm considering a SupI(ws-x5009) and a ws-x5010 (24pt 10meg telco ports)
or
> ws-x5012 (48pt 10meg telco ports).
>
> Is this sufficient for a CCIE lab, the SupI has a 100Meg uplink surely
this
> is enough to to ISL trunking, routing, etc, etc?
>
> Or should I go for a ws-x5213a (12pt 100Meg). This module is much more
> expensive than the other because of the onboard RJ45 and being 100Meg.
>
> Thank you for you advice.
>
>
> Albert
>
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RE: Catalyst 5000 for home

[Glenn Johnson]

sh po ca 1/1
ModelWS-X5009
Port 1/1
Type 100BaseTX
Speed100
Duplex   half,full
Trunk encap type ISL
Trunk mode   on,off,desirable,auto,nonegotiate
Channel  no
Broadcast suppressionno
Flow control no
Security yes
Membership   static,dynamic
Fast start   yes
Rewrite  no



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Hardman
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Catalyst 5000 for home


Humm...

I remember reading one time that the SupI card's FE ports did not support
ISL or 1.Q trunks or ehterchannle either. Did I remember wrong?

TIA
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I


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> The Sup 1 and 10 meg card will do all you need for the lab.  Don't waste
the
> extra bucks on the 100MB card unless you plan on keeping the cat for
> personal use after you pass the lab.  When I bought mine, it had a sup I,
24
> port 10MB card, 12 port 100FX card and an ATM LANE module.  (Now that they
> have taken LANE off the lab, it looks like a big mistake). I've never used
> the 100 FX module and the ATM module is no longer needed.
>
> Be sure to keep several code release versions around as they tend to use
> older versions of code on the Cat's in the lab.
>
> LAB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Albert Lu
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:03 PM
> To: GroupStudy
> Subject: Catalyst 5000 for home
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to ask what's the minimum modules I need for a Cat5000 for a
> home lab?
>
> I'm considering a SupI(ws-x5009) and a ws-x5010 (24pt 10meg telco ports)
or
> ws-x5012 (48pt 10meg telco ports).
>
> Is this sufficient for a CCIE lab, the SupI has a 100Meg uplink surely
this
> is enough to to ISL trunking, routing, etc, etc?
>
> Or should I go for a ws-x5213a (12pt 100Meg). This module is much more
> expensive than the other because of the onboard RJ45 and being 100Meg.
>
> Thank you for you advice.
>
>
> Albert
>
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IS IS

[Dave E.]

Is IS-IS on the R/S lab exam?  Thanks.


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CLARIFICATION on question on route map + access list on same interface,

[george]

For sake of argument lets say there is a router that has three interfaces.
e0 to the internal network and two serial routes out to the internet. The
policy is all www traffic will go through S2 and all other traffic will go
through S1.  There is an IP policy route (route map) on e0 to accomplish
this.  There is also an input ACL blocking some ip's from entering this
router.

Now if a www packet comes from an ip that happens to be blocked by the ACL
will it be routed by the policy route to s2, bypassing the access list and
allowing this address to get out that was supposed to be blocked or will it
have to go through the access list thereby never making it to the route map.

This is a purley hypothetical situation to help with the understanding of
how these interact with each other. Please don't respond with any why in the
world would you want to do this answers. Although I do feel it is relevent
to several situations.




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Re: IPsec & NAT

[Gonzalo P.]

Friend,

IPSec and NAT work fine with the PIX's and also with the Concentrators.
It is an easy setup, but you have to get used to the NAT 0 command and
access-lists.

Let me know if you run into any issues, I might be able to help.

 Gonzalo
 CCNP


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> Has anyone ever implemented IPSec along with NAT in your existing network?
I
> have read that there is known problems that these two do not play nice
> together. Anyone have any good news on this?
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RE: Thanks: Switching 2.0

[Larry Osei-Kwaku]

Ole,


It probably contained the word "NOSOB" (spelt
backwards)
Try spelling it backwards  to beat the filter "NOSOB"

Larry 

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Re: Salary range [3:1176]

[NADROJD7]

i must of missed this job posting !! I
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Re: using an AS5300 as a PC's modem

[Kane]

There is a cisco utility that will allow you to do this , It is ostensibly
for '95,'98 & NT4 , but I have successfully used it with Win2k. I don't
think Cisco supports it any longer but you can download a copy from :
http://www.asiaonline.net.nz/custserv/helpdesk/sysadmin.html

Rgrds

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> Is there anyway to have a Windows 2000 professional machine use one of the
> MICA modems on a Cisco AS5300 as a local modem?  I can of course, remote
> telnet to the modem, and connect to a shell account, but I have a user
that
> needs a PPP connection to do outside development testing, and I'm trying
to
> avoid having to give them a modem and phone line of their own.
>
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Re: Catalyst 5000 for home

[John Hardman]

Humm...

I remember reading one time that the SupI card's FE ports did not support
ISL or 1.Q trunks or ehterchannle either. Did I remember wrong?

TIA
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I


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> The Sup 1 and 10 meg card will do all you need for the lab.  Don't waste
the
> extra bucks on the 100MB card unless you plan on keeping the cat for
> personal use after you pass the lab.  When I bought mine, it had a sup I,
24
> port 10MB card, 12 port 100FX card and an ATM LANE module.  (Now that they
> have taken LANE off the lab, it looks like a big mistake). I've never used
> the 100 FX module and the ATM module is no longer needed.
>
> Be sure to keep several code release versions around as they tend to use
> older versions of code on the Cat's in the lab.
>
> LAB
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Albert Lu
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:03 PM
> To: GroupStudy
> Subject: Catalyst 5000 for home
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to ask what's the minimum modules I need for a Cat5000 for a
> home lab?
>
> I'm considering a SupI(ws-x5009) and a ws-x5010 (24pt 10meg telco ports)
or
> ws-x5012 (48pt 10meg telco ports).
>
> Is this sufficient for a CCIE lab, the SupI has a 100Meg uplink surely
this
> is enough to to ISL trunking, routing, etc, etc?
>
> Or should I go for a ws-x5213a (12pt 100Meg). This module is much more
> expensive than the other because of the onboard RJ45 and being 100Meg.
>
> Thank you for you advice.
>
>
> Albert
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CCSI question

[Bradley J. Wilson]

Just out of curiosity...is there anywhere I could look up whether or not my
scores that I've achieved on the Cisco tests are adequate for the CCSI
certification?  Thanks in advance.




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Cisco Positions Available in Portugal!

[Rob Piotrowski]

Hi ,
We are looking for Cisco professionals looking to live in Spain or Portugal!
Great Pay!
Let me know if you have Cisco experience or have colleagues that would be
interested
in this opportunity!
We are looking for certified Cisco Technical Experts and:
We are therefore looking for freelance CERTIFIED CISCO INSTRUCTORS (CCSI)
that have passed the official
Cisco exams and that are willing to work/live in Spain (Madrid or Barcelona)
or Portugal.
This is a long term and well-paid project.

We are also looking for CERTIFIED CISCO ENGINEERS to do technical consulting
work (not training).

Apart from having the official Cisco certification, candidates need to be
fluent in Spanish or Portuguese respectively.
This is an excellent opportunity for people from Latin America and the US
who want
to work (temporarily) in Europe.

Duration:
for training, at least 1 year (or shorter or longer, depending on the
preferences of the freelancer, not the client). for
projects: depends on the preferences of the freelancer.
Price:
aprox. $90/hour  for CCSI (instructors):
aprox  $50/hour  for CCIE (experts)
We are also interested in CC, SI, CCNP and fees depend on profile This may
be quite lower than the US fees, but
with such fees one can live confortably in Spain/Portugal. It would be
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Please let me know if you are interested in this opportunity or if you have
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RE: OT Fridays Funnies!

[Taylor, Don]

That incident is what caused me to switch careers and move away from Sydney.
;-)  And ladies, please try to warm up your hands first!

-Original Message-
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Subject: OT Fridays Funnies!


Here's your weekly safety brief.  Be careful what you wear (or don't
 wear), when working under your vehicle...especially in public.

 From the Sydney Morning Herald Australia comes this story of a central
 west couple who drove their car to K-Mart only to have their car break
 down in the parking lot.

 The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he fixed the
 car there in the lot. The wife returned later to see a small group of
people near the car.  On closer inspection she saw a pair of male legs
 protruding from under the chassis.

 Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underwear turned private
parts into glaringly public ones. Unable to stand the embarrassment, she
dutifully stepped forward, quickly put her hand UP his shorts and tucked
everything back into place.

 On regaining her feet she looked across the hood and found herself
staring at her husband who was standing idly by.

The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his head


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RE: I got a date!

[louieb]

Take 3 and 1/2 months off and then PANIC

LAB

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Subject: I got a date!


And june 18 it is CCIE lab, in SP.
Now comes the fun part... How do you prepare for the lab in 4 months?
Thanks group! I would not have made it here without your support.

Francisco

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RE: Written Tomorrow..

[Jack Williams]

Ryan,

You know what you need to know - noe it's up to them to ask the right
questions.

Good Luck

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Subject: Written Tomorrow..


Group,

With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident in
my studies but this is the "big one".

Dazed and confused

Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP

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Logging error

[Roberts, Timothy]

Why would the log tell me that my Ethernet went down and report my serial IP
address?

   Serial INT IP
Major Fri Jan 26 12:56:17  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  Jan 26 12:53:44 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
xxx: Jan 26 13:51:13: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
Ethernet0/0, changed state to down


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IPsec & NAT

[Ricky Gomez]

Has anyone ever implemented IPSec along with NAT in your existing network? I
have read that there is known problems that these two do not play nice
together. Anyone have any good news on this?

Ricky Gomez
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Re: CCNP test order

[Mihai Dumitru]

I passed Remote Access, then Support (weird, I know).  My next is
Routing.  This sequence is because on my hands-on experience.  I have
never touched a Cisco switch till now.

Take the first you feel more prepared to take (but don't begin with
Support).  Reiterate.

Brian Ledbetter wrote:
> 
> Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
> I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but I
> was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
> preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).
> 
> Thanks for the help -
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: question on route map + access list on same interface

[Mason Eike]

 Route-maps are typically used to filter ROUTING PROTOCOL
advertisements either inbound or outboud.  An ACL applied to an
interface specifically instead of a routing protocl process using the
"ip access-group" command with filter the interface traffic.   

  For instance (and clarity):

  You can have an ACL assigned to an interface that permits packets
transmitted from the source  10.0.0.0 network ONLY.  Any packet coming
into the interface(ip ACL is applied IN) that has a SA within that
specific network will be permitted, all others dropped..  Now let's
say you have a BGP session with a router at the other end that has an
ip of 10.0.0.2.  You are 10.0.0.1.  If you have a route-map applied to
the interface that is to match the BGP advertisements to an ACL for
permission and that ACL is filtering for 10.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16,
etc,  the router WILL ACCEPT the 192.168.0.0 advertisement for two
reasons:

  1.  Because you are neighboring with a 10.0.0.0 address that is
permitted on the interface ACL
  2.  Because 192.168.0.0 is permitted in the BGP route-map ACL.

 Interface ACL checked first.
 Routing protocol ACL's checked second, third. etc..

 Please let me know if you have any questions.
 Mas


  

On 26 Jan 2001 13:31:21 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bill O'Brien")
wrote:

>George,
>
>Why would you put both on an interface.  If your using
>a route map you have to call the access-lists you
>need. 
>
>Bill
>--- george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Theory question:
>> If a route-map and an input acess list are on the
>> same interface what is the
>> order of processing?
>> 1. Do packets go through the access list first then
>> proccessed by route map?
>> 2. Does the route-map go first and if so, do the
>> packets then go to the
>> access list for processing or are they just sent out
>> the next interface
>> bypassing the access list?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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OT Fridays Funnies!

[Natasha]

Here's your weekly safety brief.  Be careful what you wear (or don't
 wear), when working under your vehicle...especially in public.

 From the Sydney Morning Herald Australia comes this story of a central
 west couple who drove their car to K-Mart only to have their car break
 down in the parking lot.

 The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he fixed the
 car there in the lot. The wife returned later to see a small group of
people near the car.  On closer inspection she saw a pair of male legs
 protruding from under the chassis.

 Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underwear turned private
parts into glaringly public ones. Unable to stand the embarrassment, she
dutifully stepped forward, quickly put her hand UP his shorts and tucked
everything back into place.

 On regaining her feet she looked across the hood and found herself
staring at her husband who was standing idly by.

The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his head


-- 
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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Brant Stevens]

I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though
as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
New York, NY. 10017
646-562-6540

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tariq Bin Azad
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM
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Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)


Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no...

Tariq




-Original Message-
From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM
To: Bradley J. Wilson
Cc: cisco
Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote:

> You bring up an interesting topic.  I try to keep mine under *four* pages!
> ;-)  Why four?  I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess.  I had
one
> guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one
> page*??"  Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-)
>
> Anyone else want to chime in?  Can we get a bell curve going on what the
> average resume length is?

How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in
electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and
skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of
appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They
apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the
same anyway.

andy

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Re: Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?

[Bruce Seelinger]

Remember -  you may not be saving money by buying less expensive hardware
with the same functionality.  You need to factor in the support available,
the reliability of the hardware, the uprgadeability, managability, etc.,
etc.  You may save several hundred dollars on a switch but that does not add
up to much if your network is down for several hours because of reliability
issues.

I do not have firsthand experience with the HP line if switches so I am NOT
implying that their hardware is unreliable.  All I am saying is that you
have to consider the big picture.

fartcatcher wrote in message <94sjci$9uv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to manageable
>ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll do
>for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than
>cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this? I
am
>leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the
>switching exam).
>
>Thanks,
>FC
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Chicago CCIE Study Group

[Chris Haller]

Anyone interested in starting a CCIE study group in
the North Suburbs or North Side of Chicago ???

Let me know.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MCNE,ICNE,CNE,CCNA 1.0,CCNA 2.0,MCP

CCNP/CCIE Canidate.

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Re: Certifications on resumes

[Chris Haller]

Yes, but what you fail to realize is that Recruiters
do not care about you nor do they even read your
resume most times.  All they care about is stuffing
you into a job they think you are "Perfect" for simply
based on the fact that one word of your resume matches
whats on their client request.

Most recruiters have no experience in the field they
recruit for, and do not know how to sell you to an HR
department because they do not understand what
CCNP/CCIE mean.

Believe me, in IT, what HR thinks about a resume or a
qualified canidata dosent mean squat !!!   WHen it
gets into the hands of the IT Manager, he/she will
know who you are 
--- Rob <"mrlanman\""@visto.com> wrote:
> That sounds like a very good compromise.  I think it
> is a good way to go.
> 
> Craig Columbus wrote:
> 
> > I've actually seen more than one post that said
> CCIE required, CCNA 
> > preferred.  Go figure.
> > In my experience, CCNP doesn't get a lot of play
> in HR departments.  HR 
> > recognizes CCNA, but doesn't understand CCNP.
> > I've also seen a fair number of recruiters/HR
> confuse CCNA with CNA.
> > Bottom line?  I don't put any letters after my
> name, but I have a 
> > certifications section on my resume where I list
> each certification, spell 
> > it out, and put the date achieved...even an HR
> person should be able to see 
> > that the CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate,
> and that it was earned 
> > prior to my CCNP.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > At 10:08 AM 1/26/2001 +, you wrote:
> > 
> >> Robert,
> >> You will find that some jobs advertised in a way
> that they are looking for
> >> people who are CCNA or CCIE ( so where is CCNP )
> . It seems that some
> >> recruitment agency do not know the difference
> between CCIE and CCNA. I will
> >> put it the CCNA somewhere in your resume just to
> avoid that .
> >> 
> >> Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> >>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> 
> >>> I was asked an interesting question this morning
> by a
> >>> friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically
> they
> >>> wanted to know if they should now remove the
> CCNA from
> >>> their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> >>> 
> >>> I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP
> implies
> >>> the CCNA, and therefore one would only list
> their
> >>> 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers
> said
> >>> no, list it all.
> >>> 
> >>> Please chime in with your position - unicast if
> your
> >>> just sending a vote and multicast if you are
> raising a
> >>> discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> >>> improper use of the board.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> 
> >>> =
> >>> Robert Padjen
> >>> 
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using an AS5300 as a PC's modem

[hmalmgren]

Is there anyway to have a Windows 2000 professional machine use one of the
MICA modems on a Cisco AS5300 as a local modem?  I can of course, remote
telnet to the modem, and connect to a shell account, but I have a user that
needs a PPP connection to do outside development testing, and I'm trying to
avoid having to give them a modem and phone line of their own.  

Henry Malmgren
Network Engineer
TManage Inc.
(512) 794-6531
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Passed BCMSN! And my score was...

[Bradley J. Wilson]

857.  After Tom's post earlier, this is f*cking WEIRD.  Think something's up
with Cisco's method of test score calculation??

Anyway, onward and upward...making BCRAN flash cards starting tonight. :-)

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I got a date!

[Francisco Muniz]

And june 18 it is CCIE lab, in SP. 
Now comes the fun part... How do you prepare for the lab in 4 months?
Thanks group! I would not have made it here without your support.

Francisco

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RE: CCNP test order

[William E. Gragido]

Well, for what its worth, I took and passed BSCN on Wednesday of this week
and am taking Switching next followed by Support and wrapping things up with
Remote Access.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brian Ledbetter
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCNP test order


Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but I
was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).

Thanks for the help -

Brian


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VPN through PIX/tacacs+ via internet

[Allen May]

On a similar note, I'm trying to set up CiscoSecure for VPN connections
through the pix and authenticated via tacacs+.  Most of the docs are related
to dial-up for this.  I want VPN via the internet.  I just want it to grab
from a pool of internal IP's and allow internal access.  Any clues you guys
can give me on what I need to be looking for here?  I keep finding vpdn &
ppp setup docs.

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Liwanag, Manolito'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Cisco Group Study'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: VPN through ADSL


> The problem is not so much the the ISP is assigning an address to your DSL
> device through DHCP as the problem of letting the PIX get to the peer
> address(which will be the HOST inside not the DSL device).
>
> Since you are using PAT the address from the host will likely always be
the
> same so it should be o.k.
>
> If you did not know what the client's address would be each time because
you
> were using NAT (as oppossed to PAT) then you would want to use IKE MODE
> CONFIG on the PIX with a wildcard key, or dynamic list on the PIX with a
> wild card key.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Liwanag, Manolito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: 'Cisco Group Study'
> Subject: VPN through ADSL
>
>
>
> I want one of our remote branch to access the internet via ADSL. The
remote
> branch will have the Alcatel ADSL router that the ISP will provide as well
> as a Linksys router behind it for PAT and firewalling capabilities. I also
> want to place a Cisco VPN client at a workstation in the remote branch to
> connect to Corporate. Corporate has a PIX firewall with VPN capabilities.
>
> My question is - Since the ISP uses DHCP to lease addresses for the ADSL
> connection , will this affect my vpn connection?
>
> My Answer is - No since the branch workstation will be PATed anyway.
> Interesting traffic as defined by the VPN policy will allow packets to go
> through to the Corporate location.
>
> Can anyone verify if this train of thought is correct or is there a better
> way to do this ?  Basically the remote branch needs access a Unix server
in
> corporate to be able to send a print job to the branch.
>
> Thank you in advanced
>
> Rgds,
> Manolito
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RE: Please recommend books for BCRAN

[Ole Drews Jensen]

Congratulations,

Follow the CiscoKing link below and select Remote Access 2.0.

Hth,

Ole


 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.CiscoKing.com

 NEED A JOB ???
 http://www.oledrews.com/job




-Original Message-
From: Tom Keough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please recommend books for BCRAN


Thank you for your help and encouragement, I passed BCMSN with a score of
857 today!!  I am now at the halfway point and it feels sooo good.

Please recommend books and any advice for BCRAN will be greatly
appreciated...

I know everyone who takes one of these tests gets a different compilation
but mine today was full of VTP questions...
Again thanks for being there,
Tom

--
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AT&T Global Network
Managed Router Solutions
Tier two support
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[Josh]

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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Frank Wells]

They will find you.  If they were looking for a CCNA and your resume only 
had CCNP on it, would you want that job?  Probably not. Conversely, if you 
have CCNA on your resume and they are looking for CCNP level candidates, you 
would not qualify.  Either way both parties are saved the time and hassle of 
lining up inappropriate solutions to problems.

If you think "well, perhaps the recruiter made a mistake listing this job 
requirements" you may be right but it is probably rare.  Most companies know 
what they are looking for and how to explain to the recruiter what the job 
description entails, and they check it for accuracy before it gets posted 
publicly.

Are there horror stories and genuine mistakes, of course, but don't waste 
your time preparing for them.






>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'Frank Wells' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:25:22 -0600
>
>You're right, but if the recruiter doesn't find you in the system when
>searching, the company will never get your resume, and you're back in [1].
>
>Ole
>
>
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
>
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Frank Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:04 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>
>
>Those people that know are the ones that have the final decision on whether
>or not you get hired.  That's all you need to know.
>
>You may well find that most technical recruiters have no clue but they are
>only there to get you into an interview.  It is the IT staff at the company
>you are applying for which will know the difference between a CCNA, CCNP 
>and
>
>CCIE, those are the people you need to impress.
>
>
> >From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
> >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:45:35 -
> >
> >Quick note, how many of you think the people reading over your resume are
> >"those that know" that CCNA is a prerequissite for CCNP -as you stated?
> >
> Brian
> >
> >
> >>From: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
> >>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:45:36 -0800
> >>
> >>CCNA is a prerequisite to the CCNP, therefore it is implied to those 
>that
> >>know.   My personal opinion is that anyone who needs to append all of
> >>their
> >>cert letters to their name is either trying too hard to impress someone
> >>or,
> >>very in-confident in their abilities.
> >>
> >>You can have CCNA, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, Net+, blah blah blah on the end of
> >>your
> >>name, but as soon as you open your mouth, your credibility will be known
> >>to
> >>anyone around you that has any idea themselves.
> >>
> >>If you want to be 'the man', know your sh**, period.  Save the letters 
>for
> >>your resume.
> >>
> >>CCIE still rings a pretty sound though!
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:27 AM
> >>Subject: Certifications on resumes
> >>
> >>
> >> > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
> >> > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
> >> > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
> >> > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> >> >
> >> > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
> >> > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
> >> > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
> >> > no, list it all.
> >> >
> >> > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
> >> > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
> >> > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> >> > improper use of the board.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > =
> >> > Robert Padjen
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Please recommend books for BCRAN

[Tom Keough]

Thank you for your help and encouragement, I passed BCMSN with a score of
857 today!!  I am now at the halfway point and it feels sooo good.

Please recommend books and any advice for BCRAN will be greatly
appreciated...

I know everyone who takes one of these tests gets a different compilation
but mine today was full of VTP questions...
Again thanks for being there,
Tom

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Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Francisco Muniz]

I made mine in HTML with links to the various parts on the top of the
page, so it can be as long as I think it need be, while at the same time
being Fast & Easy to read (tm). Luckily, I don't get people asking me
for the word version nowadays.

Francisco.

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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Tariq Bin Azad]

Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... 

Tariq




-Original Message-
From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM
To: Bradley J. Wilson
Cc: cisco
Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote:

> You bring up an interesting topic.  I try to keep mine under *four* pages!
> ;-)  Why four?  I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess.  I had
one
> guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one
> page*??"  Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-)
> 
> Anyone else want to chime in?  Can we get a bell curve going on what the
> average resume length is?

How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in
electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and
skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of
appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They
apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the
same anyway.

andy

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Re: CCNP test order

[STRAND Scott]

The order I did it was:
Routing, Switching, Remote Access, Support.

Routing was the hardest of the 4 for me. Also, alot of the show and debug commands 
that you need to know for the first three tests
showed up on the support exam.made studying for support alot easier which was nice 
considering the poorly worded questions on
the exam.

Good luck,
Scott

Brian Ledbetter wrote:

> Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
> I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but I
> was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
> preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).
>
> Thanks for the help -
>
> Brian
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Re: Written Tomorrow..

[Jim Barksdale]

I passed the CCDA yesterday...I know not as big as the CCIE but...

I always have everyone I know pray for me about the time of the test.
As well I say a prayer before I go in.

Jim
CCNA CCDA

"Sheahan, Ryan" wrote:

> Group,
>
> With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
> starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
> who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident in
> my studies but this is the "big one".
>
> Dazed and confused
>
> Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP
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Re: Does anyone know what a "fluke" is ???

[Ruben Arias]

I can say it´s (was?) a great multitester also...mmm  time flies.

Mask Of Zorro wrote:

> Fluke makes all sorts of test equipment. They make some great LAN analyzers
> for troubleshooting network problems. Some of their handheld meters are
> cheap, others are very expensive. Some of them have functionality that is
> almost like a sniffer. They are great tools! I have used them in the past
> with much success for isolating faults on LAN segments.
>
> Check them out:
>
> http://www.fluke.com/
>
> Z
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:22:22 EST
> >
> >Is it some kind fo device to test a workstation and where I go to find more
> >info about it
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Cisco switches or HP switches? Which to buy?

[fartcatcher]

Hello, we're planning on upgrading our unmanageable switches to manageable 
ones. I've been looking at the 2924 XL models and they look like they'll do 
for us, but somone told me that hp switches are cheaper and faster than 
cisco's. Is this true? Does anyone have an opinion/experience with this? I am 
leaning toward Cisco (mainly because I could use the switches for the 
switching exam).

Thanks,
FC

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Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Andy]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote:

> You bring up an interesting topic.  I try to keep mine under *four* pages!
> ;-)  Why four?  I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess.  I had one
> guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one
> page*??"  Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-)
> 
> Anyone else want to chime in?  Can we get a bell curve going on what the
> average resume length is?

How about "I don't care because I never print it anyway". Its always in
electronic form and its more important to make sure all my experience and
skills are documented then conform to some twisted misconception of
appearance. Those rules don't apply to technical resumes anyway. They
apply to people that have basically no skills and all pretty much look the
same anyway.

andy

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RE: redundant NICs - theory question

[Bob Vance]

I finally found some info at Intel that discusses it a little.
The product looks really good.
As Allen (and others -- thanks) said, Automatic Load Balancing and
Failover -- just what I wanted.
The Intel site is missing low-level technical details, though, which
I'd like to have.

E.g., I notice that the load balancing is on output only (when
connecting to ports on separate switches or without FEC) -- only the
"primary" NIC is used on input, but no technical reason was given.

This implies that only the "primary" NIC responds to ARP requests, at
least until the standby takes over after a primary link failure.

But, I'm wondering why this is so.
Let's suppose that there are redundant paths thru the switching fabric
and that the 2 NICs in the NT server are connected to 2 different
switches.

ISTM that if both NICs responded to ARP requests that you could achieve
some load sharing on the input side, as well.  When a client makes an
ARP request, both NICs see it and respond.  Client uses first one it
sees.  Some clients would get Mac-A, others Mac-B, so input could flow
in on both NICs.
Now, this would require some driver code to handle this, but I don't see
why this is any more technically difficult than doing the outbound
balancing.

I must be missing something simple (like the last time :), but I'm tired
of thinking about it, so I thought that I'd just ask ;>)


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Vox 770-623-3430   11455 Lakefield Dr.
Fax 770-623-3429   Duluth, GA 30097-1511
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-Original Message-
From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:35 PM
To: Bob Vance
Subject: Re: redundant NICs


That's what the Intel Adapter Teaming does.  Very kewl software.  It
detects
when connectivity goes down and will fail over to the other nic if
either
the switch or nic slot fails.  You can also set them up where they are
both
live and sharing bandwidth and if one fails the other takes all of the
traffic as well.  I think intel.com has all the documentation there.
I've
used it before and didn't have any problems with it.

- Original Message -
From: "Bob Vance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CISCO_GroupStudy List (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: redundant NICs


> What I really want is one NIC, the "active" one, connected to
Switch-A.
> The other NIC, "standby", is hooked to switch-B.
> If Switch-A fails (or the NIC fails), the software on the NT server
> notices that there is a loss of connectivity on this NIC.  Then the
> "standby" NIC takes over with the same IP (doing a Gratuitous ARP to
> inform local-net devices of the change) and now traffic is going thru
> Switch-B
> Client PCs will never know (we'll have redundant switches and paths
> in the core).  If an edge switch is lost, then those PCs will lose
> connectivity, of course, unless manual patching is done.
>
>
> -
> Tks | 
> BV | 
> Sr. Technical Consultant, SBM, A Gates/Arrow Co.
> Vox 770-623-3430 11455 Lakefield Dr.
> Fax 770-623-3429 Duluth, GA 30097-1511
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>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Windows NT/2000 Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ali
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: redundant NICs
>
>
> They way you do it is you install two Intel nics and there is a
software
> that's loaded into your tray by your clock. u go into the Intel
software
> and
> you can group those two or more nics to together. they will operate on
> the
> same ip and be redundant and give you more throughput.
>


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RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Timothy Metz]

My latest incarnation is two and I don't think I'll ever let it go to
three...

but I'm certainly no authority on the matter ;-)

Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bradley J. Wilson
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 6:25 PM
> To: cisco
> Subject: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
>
>
> You bring up an interesting topic.  I try to keep mine under *four* pages!
> ;-)  Why four?  I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess.
>  I had one
> guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one
> page*??"  Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-)
>
> Anyone else want to chime in?  Can we get a bell curve going on what the
> average resume length is?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Brandon Rose
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:59 AM
> Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes
>
>
> My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one
> lean, mean
> page - though it sometimes goes over a little.
>
> If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many
> CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with
> dates, that adds
> a lot of paper right there.  Same goes for the gigantic protocol,
> operating
> system, and equipment list some people include.  It doesn't leave
> much room
> to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in
> the long run.
>
> I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean"
> resume issue.  Is there a conflict?
>
> I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a
> hundred or
> so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small
> novel with
> footnotes and a bibliography.  I know most of my MBA friends
> would say it's
> all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as
> possible. heh
>
> I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think?  I'll be
> sure to bring this up with him when I see him.
>
> One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea
> what the certs mean (but do they mean anything?  that's a whole
> other topic
> right there).
>
> My $.02,
>
> Brandon - holder of various acronyms
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM
> > To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus
> > Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
> >
> >
> > I have done something similar as Ole,
> >
> > On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams
> > passed and
> > courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification
> > I note that in
> > brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)
> >
> > On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a
> > track.  The same for
> > my business card, the senior certs only.
> >
> > But on job boards I check off every single cert due to
> > searches by HR people
> > who may not know/understand the progression.
> >
> > There was a time when I chided people for putting down
> > MCP/MCSE.  But I
> > didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference -
> > they're supposed
> > to know the market they're recruiting for... right?
> >
> > right.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle
> >
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CCNP test order

[Brian Ledbetter]

Any recommendations as to the order of exams I should take toward my CCNP.
I know that technically it doesn't matter, as long as I finish all 4 - but I
was just wondering if anyone might have some suggestions on test order
preference... (Routing then Switching, Switching then Routing, RA, etc.).

Thanks for the help -

Brian


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RE: VPN through ADSL

[Christopher Larson]

The problem is not so much the the ISP is assigning an address to your DSL
device through DHCP as the problem of letting the PIX get to the peer
address(which will be the HOST inside not the DSL device).

Since you are using PAT the address from the host will likely always be the
same so it should be o.k.

If you did not know what the client's address would be each time because you
were using NAT (as oppossed to PAT) then you would want to use IKE MODE
CONFIG on the PIX with a wildcard key, or dynamic list on the PIX with a
wild card key. 

  




-Original Message-
From: Liwanag, Manolito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:38 AM
To: 'Cisco Group Study'
Subject: VPN through ADSL



I want one of our remote branch to access the internet via ADSL. The remote
branch will have the Alcatel ADSL router that the ISP will provide as well
as a Linksys router behind it for PAT and firewalling capabilities. I also
want to place a Cisco VPN client at a workstation in the remote branch to
connect to Corporate. Corporate has a PIX firewall with VPN capabilities.

My question is - Since the ISP uses DHCP to lease addresses for the ADSL
connection , will this affect my vpn connection?

My Answer is - No since the branch workstation will be PATed anyway.
Interesting traffic as defined by the VPN policy will allow packets to go
through to the Corporate location.

Can anyone verify if this train of thought is correct or is there a better
way to do this ?  Basically the remote branch needs access a Unix server in
corporate to be able to send a print job to the branch.

Thank you in advanced

Rgds,
Manolito 

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Advanced Networking Expertise Workshop I & II

[MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)]

Has anyone taken one of these classes from Global Knowledge and, if so, what
were
your thoughts on the class?

Roman


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Update: CiscoWorks 2000

[Rik Guyler]

Well, thanks to all who sent suggestions about increasing the performance of
my CiscoWorks 2000 server.  I followed all suggestions sent.  The real issue
seems to be unrealistic minimum server specs from Cisco on this product.  If
any of you plan to sell or suggest this product, I would advise you to
ignore the minimum specs and go with a much more powerful solution.

My client originally provided the following box:
Single PIII 766
768MB RAM
10GB IDE HDD (bad choice here for sure)

This solution was pathetically slow.  I mean, it would literally take 3-5
minutes just to bring up a window (all java code running on an Apache web
server running on NT 4.0 SP5)!  

I setup a test server with the following:
Dual PIII 866
1GB RAM
RAID 5 w/3-9.1GB Ultra SCSI-2 drives (yeah!)

This solution kicked butt!  So, even though the first box met the minimum
requirements, you would get killed by the client if you brought this to them
to use!  Take my advice: buy a "real" server for this suite!

PS I opened a case with TAC.  They told me NOT to install CAM as it has been
shown to produce a slower response rather than its intended faster response.
There is also a Java VM upgrade for IE that they told me to get.  Search for
Java VM on www.download.com and you will find it.

Sorry for this lengthy post!

---
Rik Guyler
The SMS Group, Inc


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ISDN telephone and fax setup

[White, Shanice]

I dont have a copy of my configuration with me, but I am trying to setup my
cisco 804 router to have my telephone and fax be answered on it.  I have not
seen any sample configurations with this information.  Thanks.

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RE: Fake SAP Broadcasts

[louieb]

That is correct, therefore you need to combine static sap's with loopbacks
(Not necessarily on the same router):

int loopback 0
 ipx network 301
 exit

ipx sap 4 fserver1 301...0001 0 1
ipx sap 7 pserver1 301...0001 0 1


LAB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fake SAP Broadcasts


I think there also has to be a corresponding route in the routing table for
the IPX network before the router will advertise the SAP

-Original Message-
From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fake SAP Broadcasts


The global command is as follows:

ipx sap service-type name network.node socket hop-count

For more information, check out the following link for 11.3.  I don't
believe the syntax has changed in further releases.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/cs/csprtn2
/csipx.htm#xtocid2835297

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On 1/25/2001 at 5:56 PM McGhee, Chris wrote:

>How can I make a Cisco 3640 router begin sending bogus SAP broadcasts in a
>test environment so that when other routers issue the "show ipx servers"
>command it appears that a netware server exists on the nework. I have seen
>this done in the past but am not sure how to accomplish this myself. Please
>respond to my email address below.
>Thanks,
>Chris Mcghee
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RE: Written Tomorrow..

[Dennis Laganiere]

I have a slightly different approach.  

I study my brains out until I think I can pass, then when I go to the test
center I loudly talk about how busy I've been; I forgot I had scheduled the
test; I haven't had any time to study; that kind of thing.  That way if I
don't pass I can say, "well, I didn't really expect to" with my head held
high; if I pass the person behind the counter thinks I'm a freaken' genius.


That's just my way of protecting my self esteem at the test center.

just my $.02

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Written Tomorrow..


as i have said before going out in the car and singing out load does it 
for me.OR shouting ..at no-one(basically the mirror)
What you should shout is this..


I HAVEN`T GOT A CLUE WHAT I`M DOING

WHAT THE HELL HAS SNA GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING ANYWAY

IT DOSEN`T MATTER IF I FAIL IT`S ONLY MY LIFE WERE TALKING ABOUT 
,.FOR CHRIST`S SAKE

OSPF I`LL GIVE YOU OSPF ...RIGHT UP THE  #$&*&^

I NEVER WANTED THIS ACCREDITATION IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WAS ALL MY MUM`S

IDEA

after all that shouting (if you do it loud enough...i`m talking cops brakin 
down your door ..loud enough) you`ll be so tired you`ll drop off to sleep 
the night before and awake fully refreshed and eager to take on the world.

if you still fail it`s because you didn`t get enough last minute cramming 
because of all that shouting.Tsh never mind hey...

regards and the very best of (British, European and American) luck to you 
sir

steve






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>Reply-To: "Sheahan, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Written Tomorrow..
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:27:49 -0500
>
>Group,
>
>With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
>starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
>who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident 
>in
>my studies but this is the "big one".
>
>Dazed and confused
>
>Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP
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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Ole Drews Jensen]

You're right, but if the recruiter doesn't find you in the system when
searching, the company will never get your resume, and you're back in [1].

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes


Those people that know are the ones that have the final decision on whether 
or not you get hired.  That's all you need to know.

You may well find that most technical recruiters have no clue but they are 
only there to get you into an interview.  It is the IT staff at the company 
you are applying for which will know the difference between a CCNA, CCNP and

CCIE, those are the people you need to impress.


>From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:45:35 -
>
>Quick note, how many of you think the people reading over your resume are 
>"those that know" that CCNA is a prerequissite for CCNP -as you stated?
>
Brian
>
>
>>From: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:45:36 -0800
>>
>>CCNA is a prerequisite to the CCNP, therefore it is implied to those that
>>know.   My personal opinion is that anyone who needs to append all of 
>>their
>>cert letters to their name is either trying too hard to impress someone 
>>or,
>>very in-confident in their abilities.
>>
>>You can have CCNA, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, Net+, blah blah blah on the end of 
>>your
>>name, but as soon as you open your mouth, your credibility will be known 
>>to
>>anyone around you that has any idea themselves.
>>
>>If you want to be 'the man', know your sh**, period.  Save the letters for
>>your resume.
>>
>>CCIE still rings a pretty sound though!
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:27 AM
>>Subject: Certifications on resumes
>>
>>
>> > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
>> > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
>> > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
>> > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
>> >
>> > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
>> > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
>> > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
>> > no, list it all.
>> >
>> > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
>> > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
>> > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
>> > improper use of the board.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > =
>> > Robert Padjen
>> >
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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Ole Drews Jensen]

I am the Systems Network Manager for an enterprise that has several
recruiting companies under them, which I am responsible for also. Some of
these companies simply scan resumees into a special designed application,
and everytime they need a candidate, the use the search function.

That means that if they need someone with TCP/IP skills and a CCNA cert, you
will not be shown in the results window if you only put your CCNP cert on
your resume.

I know that many companies like resumees to be 1 or max 2 pages long, but
you have to kind of throw it in the air and "smell" what would be the best
thing to do in each individual situation.

I like to have different versions of my resume, so it mainly shows the area
that matches the job functions I am applying for.

Hth,

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Brandon Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes


My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean
page - though it sometimes goes over a little.

If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many
CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds
a lot of paper right there.  Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating
system, and equipment list some people include.  It doesn't leave much room
to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in
the long run.

I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean"
resume issue.  Is there a conflict?

I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or
so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with
footnotes and a bibliography.  I know most of my MBA friends would say it's
all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as
possible. heh

I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think?  I'll be
sure to bring this up with him when I see him.

One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea
what the certs mean (but do they mean anything?  that's a whole other topic
right there).

My $.02,

Brandon - holder of various acronyms



> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus
> Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
> 
> 
> I have done something similar as Ole,
> 
> On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams 
> passed and
> courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification 
> I note that in
> brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)
> 
> On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a 
> track.  The same for
> my business card, the senior certs only.
> 
> But on job boards I check off every single cert due to 
> searches by HR people
> who may not know/understand the progression.
> 
> There was a time when I chided people for putting down 
> MCP/MCSE.  But I
> didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference - 
> they're supposed
> to know the market they're recruiting for... right?
> 
> right.
> 
> Kevin Wigle
> 

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Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)

[Bradley J. Wilson]

You bring up an interesting topic.  I try to keep mine under *four* pages!
;-)  Why four?  I dunno, just seemed like a good number, I guess.  I had one
guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: "Your resume's only *one
page*??"  Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-)

Anyone else want to chime in?  Can we get a bell curve going on what the
average resume length is?


- Original Message -
From: Brandon Rose
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes


My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean
page - though it sometimes goes over a little.

If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many
CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds
a lot of paper right there.  Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating
system, and equipment list some people include.  It doesn't leave much room
to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in
the long run.

I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean"
resume issue.  Is there a conflict?

I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or
so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with
footnotes and a bibliography.  I know most of my MBA friends would say it's
all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as
possible. heh

I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think?  I'll be
sure to bring this up with him when I see him.

One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea
what the certs mean (but do they mean anything?  that's a whole other topic
right there).

My $.02,

Brandon - holder of various acronyms



> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus
> Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>
>
> I have done something similar as Ole,
>
> On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams
> passed and
> courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification
> I note that in
> brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)
>
> On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a
> track.  The same for
> my business card, the senior certs only.
>
> But on job boards I check off every single cert due to
> searches by HR people
> who may not know/understand the progression.
>
> There was a time when I chided people for putting down
> MCP/MCSE.  But I
> didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference -
> they're supposed
> to know the market they're recruiting for... right?
>
> right.
>
> Kevin Wigle
>

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Re: VPN through ADSL

[Gonzalo P.]

Manolito..

  The key component here is that you will be using the VPN Client...

I have been working with the VPNClient 3000, and it is amazing. (better than
the old client Cisco used to provide--IRE/SafeNet).

 The only setting you will need is to allow IPSec through NAT in order for
it to work. It is a setting you configure in the Client and also in the VPN
Concentrator or Firewall.

  We do it very often for users in Leased Office Space where another company
allows them to use an Internet connection. I have no control over the
Links/Firewalls but it is not a problem as long as we allow the IPSec to
take place through NAT.

Hope this helps...

Gonzalo.

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>
> I want one of our remote branch to access the internet via ADSL. The
remote
> branch will have the Alcatel ADSL router that the ISP will provide as well
> as a Linksys router behind it for PAT and firewalling capabilities. I also
> want to place a Cisco VPN client at a workstation in the remote branch to
> connect to Corporate. Corporate has a PIX firewall with VPN capabilities.
>
> My question is - Since the ISP uses DHCP to lease addresses for the ADSL
> connection , will this affect my vpn connection?
>
> My Answer is - No since the branch workstation will be PATed anyway.
> Interesting traffic as defined by the VPN policy will allow packets to go
> through to the Corporate location.
>
> Can anyone verify if this train of thought is correct or is there a better
> way to do this ?  Basically the remote branch needs access a Unix server
in
> corporate to be able to send a print job to the branch.
>
> Thank you in advanced
>
> Rgds,
> Manolito
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RE: Early Token release

[dwhitley]

There can only be 1 token on a ring at any time.  The confusion comes from
thinking that a data frame contains a token it does not.  A host takes the
token off the ring and transmits a data frame, when its done tramiting the
data frame (using early token release) it then returns the token to the ring
before it has removed its last data frame.

-Original Message-
From: Faisal Athar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Early Token release


Hi,
Please solve my confusion for this as I am getting different answers from
different resources..


Early token release 

(1) allows one token and more than one frames.
(2) Allows more than one token and more than one frames.
(3)allows more than two tokens and one data frame.

Thanks  a lot in advance...


Faisal.


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Re: CATALYST "BUG" MEMORY LEAK VULNERABILITY

[Stephen Skinner]

Many thanks for posting this it is very usefull to have

regards steve


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>Reply-To: "RAUL RENTERIA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: CATALYST "BUG" MEMORY LEAK VULNERABILITY
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:37:10 -
>
>CISCO CATALYST MEMORY LEAK VULNERABILITY:
>
>This vulnerability affects Catalyst 2901, 2902, 2926T, 2926F, 2926GL, 
>2926GS
>fixed configuration chassis, and the 5000, 5002, 5500, 5505, and 5509
>modular chassis switches. 2948G, 2980G, 4003, 4006, and 4912G switches.
>6009, 6006, 6509, 6509-NEB, and 6506 modular chassis switches.
>
>HAVE FUN UPGRADING ;)=  FOR FULL DETAILS CHECK OUT CCO LINK BELOW
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/catalyst-memleak-pub.shtml
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Re: question on route map + access list on same interface

[Bill O'Brien]

George,

Why would you put both on an interface.  If your using
a route map you have to call the access-lists you
need. 

Bill
--- george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Theory question:
> If a route-map and an input acess list are on the
> same interface what is the
> order of processing?
> 1. Do packets go through the access list first then
> proccessed by route map?
> 2. Does the route-map go first and if so, do the
> packets then go to the
> access list for processing or are they just sent out
> the next interface
> bypassing the access list?
> 
> 
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RE: Written Tomorrow..

[louieb]

The traditional chant of the primitive Cisconian tribe (of San Jose Origin)
is to dance around a tribal fire, reading sniffer captures and alternating
between left and right foot as you yell out the bridges and rings that were
traversed by the packet in the proper order - (be sure to change direction
if the RIF should be read from right to left instead of left to right).  A
firm authoritative guttural tone should be used and you can have others beat
on the tops of 2501's to keep the beat.

Know your RIF's!

Hope this helps!!!

LAB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Sheahan, Ryan
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:28 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Written Tomorrow..


Group,

With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident in
my studies but this is the "big one".

Dazed and confused

Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP

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RE: Fake SAP Broadcasts

[dwhitley]

I think there also has to be a corresponding route in the routing table for
the IPX network before the router will advertise the SAP

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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Fake SAP Broadcasts


The global command is as follows:

ipx sap service-type name network.node socket hop-count

For more information, check out the following link for 11.3.  I don't
believe the syntax has changed in further releases.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/cs/csprtn2
/csipx.htm#xtocid2835297

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>How can I make a Cisco 3640 router begin sending bogus SAP broadcasts in a
>test environment so that when other routers issue the "show ipx servers"
>command it appears that a netware server exists on the nework. I have seen
>this done in the past but am not sure how to accomplish this myself. Please
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Re: Written Tomorrow..

[Stephen Skinner]

as i have said before going out in the car and singing out load does it 
for me.OR shouting ..at no-one(basically the mirror)
What you should shout is this..


I HAVEN`T GOT A CLUE WHAT I`M DOING

WHAT THE HELL HAS SNA GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING ANYWAY

IT DOSEN`T MATTER IF I FAIL IT`S ONLY MY LIFE WERE TALKING ABOUT 
,.FOR CHRIST`S SAKE

OSPF I`LL GIVE YOU OSPF ...RIGHT UP THE  #$&*&^

I NEVER WANTED THIS ACCREDITATION IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WAS ALL MY MUM`S 
IDEA

after all that shouting (if you do it loud enough...i`m talking cops brakin 
down your door ..loud enough) you`ll be so tired you`ll drop off to sleep 
the night before and awake fully refreshed and eager to take on the world.

if you still fail it`s because you didn`t get enough last minute cramming 
because of all that shouting.Tsh never mind hey...

regards and the very best of (British, European and American) luck to you 
sir

steve






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>Reply-To: "Sheahan, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Written Tomorrow..
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:27:49 -0500
>
>Group,
>
>With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
>starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
>who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident 
>in
>my studies but this is the "big one".
>
>Dazed and confused
>
>Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP
>
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Re: Certifications on resumes

[Frank Wells]

Those people that know are the ones that have the final decision on whether 
or not you get hired.  That's all you need to know.

You may well find that most technical recruiters have no clue but they are 
only there to get you into an interview.  It is the IT staff at the company 
you are applying for which will know the difference between a CCNA, CCNP and 
CCIE, those are the people you need to impress.


>From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:45:35 -
>
>Quick note, how many of you think the people reading over your resume are 
>"those that know" that CCNA is a prerequissite for CCNP -as you stated?
>
Brian
>
>
>>From: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Groupstudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:45:36 -0800
>>
>>CCNA is a prerequisite to the CCNP, therefore it is implied to those that
>>know.   My personal opinion is that anyone who needs to append all of 
>>their
>>cert letters to their name is either trying too hard to impress someone 
>>or,
>>very in-confident in their abilities.
>>
>>You can have CCNA, CCNP, MCSE, CNE, Net+, blah blah blah on the end of 
>>your
>>name, but as soon as you open your mouth, your credibility will be known 
>>to
>>anyone around you that has any idea themselves.
>>
>>If you want to be 'the man', know your sh**, period.  Save the letters for
>>your resume.
>>
>>CCIE still rings a pretty sound though!
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:27 AM
>>Subject: Certifications on resumes
>>
>>
>> > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
>> > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
>> > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
>> > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
>> >
>> > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
>> > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
>> > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
>> > no, list it all.
>> >
>> > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
>> > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
>> > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
>> > improper use of the board.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > =
>> > Robert Padjen
>> >
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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Brandon Rose]

My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean
page - though it sometimes goes over a little.

If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many
CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds
a lot of paper right there.  Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating
system, and equipment list some people include.  It doesn't leave much room
to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in
the long run.

I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean"
resume issue.  Is there a conflict?

I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or
so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with
footnotes and a bibliography.  I know most of my MBA friends would say it's
all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as
possible. heh

I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think?  I'll be
sure to bring this up with him when I see him.

One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea
what the certs mean (but do they mean anything?  that's a whole other topic
right there).

My $.02,

Brandon - holder of various acronyms



> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus
> Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
> 
> 
> I have done something similar as Ole,
> 
> On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams 
> passed and
> courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification 
> I note that in
> brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)
> 
> On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a 
> track.  The same for
> my business card, the senior certs only.
> 
> But on job boards I check off every single cert due to 
> searches by HR people
> who may not know/understand the progression.
> 
> There was a time when I chided people for putting down 
> MCP/MCSE.  But I
> didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference - 
> they're supposed
> to know the market they're recruiting for... right?
> 
> right.
> 
> Kevin Wigle
> 

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VPN through ADSL

[Liwanag, Manolito]

I want one of our remote branch to access the internet via ADSL. The remote
branch will have the Alcatel ADSL router that the ISP will provide as well
as a Linksys router behind it for PAT and firewalling capabilities. I also
want to place a Cisco VPN client at a workstation in the remote branch to
connect to Corporate. Corporate has a PIX firewall with VPN capabilities.

My question is - Since the ISP uses DHCP to lease addresses for the ADSL
connection , will this affect my vpn connection?

My Answer is - No since the branch workstation will be PATed anyway.
Interesting traffic as defined by the VPN policy will allow packets to go
through to the Corporate location.

Can anyone verify if this train of thought is correct or is there a better
way to do this ?  Basically the remote branch needs access a Unix server in
corporate to be able to send a print job to the branch.

Thank you in advanced

Rgds,
Manolito 

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Written Tomorrow..

[Sheahan, Ryan]

Group,

With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am
starting to get a little nervous.  Any last minute suggestions from others
who have gone before me?  Any tribal chants I should try?  I am confident in
my studies but this is the "big one".  

Dazed and confused

Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP

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Re: Certifications on resumes

[HLBuri]

I received a recent email from Cisco regarding recertifications which basically said, 
"higher level certifications negate the need to re-certify at the lower level".

Heather Buri

In a message dated Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:09:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Michael 
Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Got a question for the group, after you get your CCNP, do you ever have to
upgrade your lower exams, like CCNA?


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RE: new transport

[Cisco Support]

I total agree and that is the problem -- I don't want to give up the last
Cisco product (other then the PIX) we have.  They guys that are pushing
forward with this idea are the switch guys and they are trying to convince
Management.  I really don't have a reason other than I want to keep the
router and not use a switch.  Fiber to the door is cheaper.  However, we
will then be using the YIPES' MAN which they have said is fail proof (yea
right) but I really don't know.


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rodney Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: new transport


> Why not leave the 7206 in place, and add an aditional ethernet module?
The
> PROs for this setup is you remain control of your router, and you can use
> the router to provide additional transport streams throu T1s or T3s to
other
> providers, or remote locations.
>
> The layer three swtich is the same concept as a router, just limited to
> ethernet ports.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Rodney Jackson
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: new transport
>
>
> Does anyone know the PROS and CONS of going with a company that provides
> ethernet connection from thier MAN.  This company wants to replace our
Cisco
> 7206 with an Extreme Networks' layer three switch.  .
>
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: new transport


Does anyone know the PROS and CONS of going with a company that provides
ethernet connection from thier MAN.  This company wants to replace our Cisco
7206 with an Extreme Networks' layer three switch.  .


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RE: Certifications on resumes

[Ole Drews Jensen]

When you recertify your CCNP, your CCNA will be renewed too. If you do not
want recertify your CCNP, you will need to recertify for the CCNA if you
wish to keep it.

If you go to the tracking system, there's some good info about it.

Hth,

Ole


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 CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.CiscoKing.com

 NEED A JOB ???
 http://www.oledrews.com/job




-Original Message-
From: Michael Snyder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes


Me too,  I sign my email CCNP,MCSE but on the last page of my resume, I have
the whole line in the order I got them.

MCP,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCNP-Security and lately I end it, with Waiting for
CID Beta Results

I saw one listing in unix wildcard format, I think it was CC[ND][AP],
thought it was kewl.  Of course, HR would never get that one.  I always
liked CCDNA too.

One my coworkers asked why I didn't get MCSE+I, I told him I think
(MCSE+CCNP) takes care of that.  Which reminds me I have to upgrade my NT4
exams to WIN2000 before the end of the year.

Got a question for the group, after you get your CCNP, do you ever have to
upgrade your lower exams, like CCNA?

""Ed Moss"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
94s85c$t0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94s85c$t0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On the cover page, or under the resume "qualifications section", I will
list
> CCNP, CCDP (only the highest certifications received). Same goes for
listing
> MCSE and not MCP, or CNE and not CNA.
>
> At the end, under education and certifications, I will list each
> certification with the date it was completed.  This way it keeps the
letters
> at the end of the name short - the technical people that review the resume
> will know what's going on when they read it, and all the other info is
there
> for the HR and recruiter types. I also think it shows how quickly or
slowly
> the certifications advance.
>
> Ed
>
> Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
> > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
> > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
> > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> >
> > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
> > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
> > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
> > no, list it all.
> >
> > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
> > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
> > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> > improper use of the board.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > =
> > Robert Padjen
> >
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Re: Monitoring highly redundant operations

[Michael Snyder]

I like the idea of putting a FXS port right next to the CON port of every
router.  Pick up the handset, press #1 and get connected to the default
gateway of the first interface, press #2 connected to gateway of the second
interface.  Kind of a voice hotline for the next hop of the upstream and
downstream ip traffic.


""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Simon Lockhart wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  Indeed. We currently monitor each part of our operation from a
monitoring
> >>  station on our network. Under certain conditions, this can give us
both
> >>  false positives and false negatives:
> >>
> >Umm... Keynote?
> >(http://www.keynote.com)
> >
> >I find it truly amazing that people don't already diversely
> >monitor.  Hell, have cronned pings running off your friend's cable modem
> >if that's all you can afford, but for christ's sake, a single box colo'd
> >in someone else's cage, or a shell at shells.com or nether.net really
> >isn't that expensive.
> >
> >
> >Fighting the war against bad networks,
> >
> >Matthew Devney
> >Teamsphere Interactive
>
>
> Might be interesting to define a set of basic monitoring functions
> that independent ISPs can run on each other and share results.  Early
> warnings could go to a special email.
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Re: Certifications on resumes

[Michael Snyder]

Me too,  I sign my email CCNP,MCSE but on the last page of my resume, I have
the whole line in the order I got them.

MCP,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCNP-Security and lately I end it, with Waiting for
CID Beta Results

I saw one listing in unix wildcard format, I think it was CC[ND][AP],
thought it was kewl.  Of course, HR would never get that one.  I always
liked CCDNA too.

One my coworkers asked why I didn't get MCSE+I, I told him I think
(MCSE+CCNP) takes care of that.  Which reminds me I have to upgrade my NT4
exams to WIN2000 before the end of the year.

Got a question for the group, after you get your CCNP, do you ever have to
upgrade your lower exams, like CCNA?

""Ed Moss"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
94s85c$t0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94s85c$t0l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On the cover page, or under the resume "qualifications section", I will
list
> CCNP, CCDP (only the highest certifications received). Same goes for
listing
> MCSE and not MCP, or CNE and not CNA.
>
> At the end, under education and certifications, I will list each
> certification with the date it was completed.  This way it keeps the
letters
> at the end of the name short - the technical people that review the resume
> will know what's going on when they read it, and all the other info is
there
> for the HR and recruiter types. I also think it shows how quickly or
slowly
> the certifications advance.
>
> Ed
>
> Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
> > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
> > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
> > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> >
> > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
> > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
> > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
> > no, list it all.
> >
> > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
> > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
> > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> > improper use of the board.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > =
> > Robert Padjen
> >
> > __
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Re: Installed my first Juniper router :-)!

[Peter Van Oene]

Keep in mind however that the management port is an Out of Band Ethernet port.  Hence, 
you need to telnet to the router via it as opposed to connecting your RJ-45 serial 
cable :)

Pete


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On 1/26/2001 at 8:05 AM Curtis Call wrote:

>At 10:42 PM 1/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>One thing that I would like for the M5 to have would be an RJ45 console
>>input instead of a DB9.  Also, I think my Cisco 7505 looks more stylish :-).
>>   I like the black metal look more than the silver metalic look.  On the
>>other hand, I have to admit that the M5 takes half the rack space of my 7505
>>(which is what the boss likes).
>
>It's true that the console input is a DB9, but it does have a management 
>port which is an RJ45 so once it is up and running you can use that port to 
>perform any additional configuration.
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Re: 7206 VXR config

[Gonzalo P.]

 The prot in the controller works perfectly!
you should not worry... it is just an FE port.

Gonzalo

"Jim Healis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Has anyone ever used the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller on a 7206 to
> actually pass traffic?
> I'm worried that because it sits on a card that has other functions that
> I won't get the needed performance from that port.  Or that I won't be
> able to use that port for for passing in-band traffic at all.
>
> So my decision is wavering between getting a 2-port FE LAN adapter or a
> 1-port FE LAN adapter and using the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Jim
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Re: 7206 VXR config

[Ed Moss]

I used it to link beteween two 7206's as an alternate path.  Had no problem
with it at all.
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Re: Catalyst 5000 for home

[Francisco Muniz]

The took ATM off the lab, but it seems to me that MPOA is still there,
so you have to know LANE as well (it's a prerequisite). Anyone know
better? I'll ask my friendly proctor to see what she says, but she
usually never says much (NDA, I suppose).

Francisco.

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Re: Certifications on resumes

[Ed Moss]

On the cover page, or under the resume "qualifications section", I will list
CCNP, CCDP (only the highest certifications received). Same goes for listing
MCSE and not MCP, or CNE and not CNA.

At the end, under education and certifications, I will list each
certification with the date it was completed.  This way it keeps the letters
at the end of the name short - the technical people that review the resume
will know what's going on when they read it, and all the other info is there
for the HR and recruiter types. I also think it shows how quickly or slowly
the certifications advance.

Ed

Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
> friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
> wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
> their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
>
> I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
> the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
> 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
> no, list it all.
>
> Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
> just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
> discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> improper use of the board.
>
> Thanks.
>
> =
> Robert Padjen
>
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Re: Rob Piotrowski/Freelance.com-Cisco Jobs Overseas!

[Francisco Muniz]

That's some mix of careers, you have! :) (www.golfrock.com)

Francisco.

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Re: Installed my first Juniper router :-)!

[Curtis Call]

At 10:42 PM 1/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
>One thing that I would like for the M5 to have would be an RJ45 console
>input instead of a DB9.  Also, I think my Cisco 7505 looks more stylish :-).
>   I like the black metal look more than the silver metalic look.  On the
>other hand, I have to admit that the M5 takes half the rack space of my 7505
>(which is what the boss likes).

It's true that the console input is a DB9, but it does have a management 
port which is an RJ45 so once it is up and running you can use that port to 
perform any additional configuration.

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Re: Fake SAP Broadcasts

[Peter Van Oene]

The global command is as follows:

ipx sap service-type name network.node socket hop-count

For more information, check out the following link for 11.3.  I don't believe the 
syntax has changed in further releases.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/cs/csprtn2/csipx.htm#xtocid2835297

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>How can I make a Cisco 3640 router begin sending bogus SAP broadcasts in a
>test environment so that when other routers issue the "show ipx servers"
>command it appears that a netware server exists on the nework. I have seen
>this done in the past but am not sure how to accomplish this myself. Please
>respond to my email address below.
>Thanks,
>Chris Mcghee
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Re: Monitoring highly redundant operations

[Francisco Muniz]

That one was for the NANOG list, I think. I do like your "medical"
approach though ;).

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RE: Catalyst 5000 for home

[MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)]

Don't forget that if you want to do some vlan trunking you need 100 Mbs.

-Original Message-
From: louieb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 8:37 AM
To: 'Albert Lu'; 'GroupStudy'
Subject: RE: Catalyst 5000 for home


The Sup 1 and 10 meg card will do all you need for the lab.  Don't waste the
extra bucks on the 100MB card unless you plan on keeping the cat for
personal use after you pass the lab.  When I bought mine, it had a sup I, 24
port 10MB card, 12 port 100FX card and an ATM LANE module.  (Now that they
have taken LANE off the lab, it looks like a big mistake). I've never used
the 100 FX module and the ATM module is no longer needed.

Be sure to keep several code release versions around as they tend to use
older versions of code on the Cat's in the lab.

LAB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Albert Lu
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:03 PM
To: GroupStudy
Subject: Catalyst 5000 for home


Hi,

I would like to ask what's the minimum modules I need for a Cat5000 for a
home lab?

I'm considering a SupI(ws-x5009) and a ws-x5010 (24pt 10meg telco ports) or
ws-x5012 (48pt 10meg telco ports).

Is this sufficient for a CCIE lab, the SupI has a 100Meg uplink surely this
is enough to to ISL trunking, routing, etc, etc?

Or should I go for a ws-x5213a (12pt 100Meg). This module is much more
expensive than the other because of the onboard RJ45 and being 100Meg.

Thank you for you advice.


Albert

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Re: Certifications on resumes

[Kevin Wigle]

I have done something similar as Ole,

On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams passed and
courses taken.  If passing an exam completed a certification I note that in
brackets.  i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed)

On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a track.  The same for
my business card, the senior certs only.

But on job boards I check off every single cert due to searches by HR people
who may not know/understand the progression.

There was a time when I chided people for putting down MCP/MCSE.  But I
didn't figure that HR people wouldn't know the difference - they're supposed
to know the market they're recruiting for... right?

right.

Kevin Wigle

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To: "'Andy'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Craig Columbus"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "netlinesys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes


> On my resume, I have listed all my exams and certifications. For example:
>
> Objectives:
>
> I want a job that pays a million a year, where I can work at home.
>
> bla.bla.bla.
>
> Certifications:
>
> CCNA 2.0 Cisco Certified Network Associate May 2000
> MCSE 4.0 Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer March 1999
> MCP+I 4.0 Microsoft Certified Professional + Internet
> March 1999
> MCP 4.0 Microsoft Certified Professional July 1998
>
> Exams:
>
> BCMSN Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks January 2001
> BCRAN Building Cisco Remote Access Networks August 2000
> CCNA 2.0 Cisco Certified Network Associate May 2000
>
> bla.bla.bla.
>
> When I was interviewing for the job I currently hold, I know that was one
of
> the reasons why my boss liked me, because he could see that I kept
educating
> my self, so I could be more or less up to date with technology.
>
> So put every exam and certification on the resume, because maybe the
> recruiter who's looking at it and searching for one with a minimum CCNA,
> will ignore your CCNP title.
>
> Just my $.02
>
> Ole
>
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
> 
>  NEED A JOB ???
>  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> 
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:03 AM
> To: Craig Columbus
> Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>
>
>
> This is a good idea. You have to remember that the majority of people that
> see your resume are non-technical people that are just matching acronymns
> without any idea what they are. I had one recuiter look at my resume and
> email back, "but do you have any experience with ISP". I explained what an
> ISP was and that all the jobs on my resume were service providers. *sigh*
>
> andy
>
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Craig Columbus wrote:
>
> > I've actually seen more than one post that said CCIE required, CCNA
> > preferred.  Go figure.
> > In my experience, CCNP doesn't get a lot of play in HR departments.  HR
> > recognizes CCNA, but doesn't understand CCNP.
> > I've also seen a fair number of recruiters/HR confuse CCNA with CNA.
> > Bottom line?  I don't put any letters after my name, but I have a
> > certifications section on my resume where I list each certification,
spell
>
> > it out, and put the date achieved...even an HR person should be able to
> see
> > that the CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate, and that it was
earned
> > prior to my CCNP.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > At 10:08 AM 1/26/2001 +, you wrote:
> > >Robert,
> > >You will find that some jobs advertised in a way that they are looking
> for
> > >people who are CCNA or CCIE ( so where is CCNP ) . It seems that some
> > >recruitment agency do not know the difference between CCIE and CCNA. I
> will
> > >put it the CCNA somewhere in your resume just to avoid that .
> > >
> > >Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I was asked an interesting question this morning by a
> > > > friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they
> > > > wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from
> > > > their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> > > >
> > > > I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies
> > > > the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their
> > > > 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said
> > > > no, list it all.
> > > >
> > > > Please chime in with your position - unicast if your
> > > > just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a
> > > > discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> > > > improper use of the board.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > =
> > > > Robert Padjen
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
>

Re: Anybody want to sell their CCIE boot camp labs?

[Frank Z]

This would violate the license you get when you
purchase the labs. Please simply buy them from
ccbootcamp.com. There has been a lot of time put into
the creation of these labs and I have not seen their
equal for CCIE lab prep. They are the best, so keep
support them directly for the creation of even more
great labs.

Regards,
Frank Zahrt DP/NP Voice, Lab 3/14



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> I am going to be attempting the lab in a few months.
> If anybody out there is done with their ccie boot
> camp labs, and would like
> to sell them, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> Manjit
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RE: Catalyst 5000 for home

[louieb]

The Sup 1 and 10 meg card will do all you need for the lab.  Don't waste the
extra bucks on the 100MB card unless you plan on keeping the cat for
personal use after you pass the lab.  When I bought mine, it had a sup I, 24
port 10MB card, 12 port 100FX card and an ATM LANE module.  (Now that they
have taken LANE off the lab, it looks like a big mistake). I've never used
the 100 FX module and the ATM module is no longer needed.

Be sure to keep several code release versions around as they tend to use
older versions of code on the Cat's in the lab.

LAB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Albert Lu
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:03 PM
To: GroupStudy
Subject: Catalyst 5000 for home


Hi,

I would like to ask what's the minimum modules I need for a Cat5000 for a
home lab?

I'm considering a SupI(ws-x5009) and a ws-x5010 (24pt 10meg telco ports) or
ws-x5012 (48pt 10meg telco ports).

Is this sufficient for a CCIE lab, the SupI has a 100Meg uplink surely this
is enough to to ISL trunking, routing, etc, etc?

Or should I go for a ws-x5213a (12pt 100Meg). This module is much more
expensive than the other because of the onboard RJ45 and being 100Meg.

Thank you for you advice.


Albert

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