Wait for dial tone in VoIP
Hello group, I am configuring VoIP over FR, from A (EM) to B (EM) and C (FXO) with (two sub interfaces).. the dial plan is, user from every location must press dial plan TO GET THE TONE from opposite PABX and then it's up to user whether they want to call extension or off-premises call. The problem is, user from A can always get the tone from B and C with 100 % success rate, but when user B and C want to call A, they can only get succes rate 70 % to get the tone. I have ensure that all of the config is same. I'm thinking that may be ,the router in A can not wait for the ACK from PABX in A too long, so the tone sometimes cannot be heard from opposite. Any idea..? Grad _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the book I need
I am sory,when I said the book I need I didn't nmean free.Some one,from the group asked what book I need becaus he has books to sell. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: debug ip error
have yout tried command 'no debug all' ma -Original Message- From: gayathri [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:01 PM To: cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: gayathri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: debug ip error Hi Group, Recently due to some problems my colleague issued a debug ip error command on the rsm. The problem is we could not stop the process at all. We tried using the no debug ip error but it never came out of the process, there was a lot of details regarding routing info . Luckily for us we had HSRP. We had to reboot the RSM , manually i.e, remove the card and insert it back. Is this a common thing that we cant stop the debug ip error process. Thanks Gayathri _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need some HELP.
Hi, Have a couple of queries regarding the CCNP and I hope they can be clarified by this list of Cisco experts. So here goes , I have been working on networks and systems for the past 5 years ,basically working a lot on Linux and Windoze systems administration along with a bit of scripting and security stuff. I have completed my CCNA abt6 months ago and already have a CNE and a MCSE , but do not have much hands on in terms of routers . I would like to do the CCNP as the stuff is great in terms of knowledge. It would be great if you guys would lemme know if it would help me in advancing my career and what kinds growth (monetary and overall) would I be looking at after the CCNP . Any kind of comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanx in advance. Shree. _ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conduit Command
Hi All Can anybody tell me whats the meaning of command "Conduit permit ip host 1.1.1.1 any" , to my understanding its allowing any body on Internet to access host using any protocol, pls correct me if i am wrong and how harmfull this could be for a secure environment. Regards Muhammad Faheem Systems Engineer Afcomp Hello : (9714)-3933878 / 3027338 Fax : (9714)-3933832 Web : www.afcomp.com [demime 0.98b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No Subject
Hi all +ACE- I am a going to take the CCNA coming may. can u plz. suggest me some place from where i could online CLI testing. ya , i know there is an r1r2.com but its busy most of the time. also could you plz. let me know where i can take practice tests(fro free). thanx in anticipation Sumit _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where to get the netmon software?
Hi... May I know netmon to get the netmon software which is NT network analyser software? Do we need license to install? Any free copy?? Thanks in advance Sim == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS
Hi.. May I know how to get CCO member. Our company bought a lot of equipment from a cisco reseller, but what info can I provide to cisco inorder to get in CCO ID and password I want to up grade my cisco device's IOS, but I don't where to get it from? Is that from CCO sites?? If I upgrade the IOS, do I still need to reinstall the current config? If I delete the IOS in the flash what will happen to cisco device? david _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hardware Loopback
Hi all does anyone know the PIN layout for a x.21 Hardware loopback plug for a Europeoan Nortel NTU??? Thanks Damien ** The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. This message and any attachments have been scanned for viruses. Orbiscom Ltd. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. www.Orbiscom.com ** _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS
You can get a CCO Login account by applying for the Cisco Consultant Program at: http://www.cisco.com/go/consult gl -Original Message- From: David spalding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS Hi.. May I know how to get CCO member. Our company bought a lot of equipment from a cisco reseller, but what info can I provide to cisco inorder to get in CCO ID and password I want to up grade my cisco device's IOS, but I don't where to get it from? Is that from CCO sites?? If I upgrade the IOS, do I still need to reinstall the current config? If I delete the IOS in the flash what will happen to cisco device? david _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS
IOS is not free of charge. ""David spalding"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6g)s6l%s [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi.. May I know how to get CCO member. Our company bought a lot of equipment from a cisco reseller, but what info can I provide to cisco inorder to get in CCO ID and password I want to up grade my cisco device's IOS, but I don't where to get it from? Is that from CCO sites?? If I upgrade the IOS, do I still need to reinstall the current config? If I delete the IOS in the flash what will happen to cisco device? david _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DLSW filtering
Hi all, Got a question on DLSW filtering. Say all interfaces below are configured for DLSW (ie e0 and tok 0 of R1, e0 and tok 0 of R2). How to configure on R1 so that only hosts on Ring 1 with mac address 3000.3000. can talk to hosts on Ring 2? Hosts on Ring 1 with other Mac address should still be able to talk to hosts on e0 of R2. |---e0 R1 tok0---Ring 1 | | IP cloud | | |---e0 R2 tok0---Ring 2 Clue Less. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debug ip error
one tip is to issue the no debug all command prior to issuing debug all. that way when the router display begins spewing debug info you can issue an up arrow and enter command sequence to get out of debug mode. Gayathri wrote: Hi Group, Recently due to some problems my colleague issued a debug ip error command on the rsm. The problem is we could not stop the process at all. We tried using the no debug ip error but it never came out of the process, there was a lot of details regarding routing info . Luckily for us we had HSRP. We had to reboot the RSM , manually i.e, remove the card and insert it back. Is this a common thing that we cant stop the debug ip error process. Thanks Gayathri _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conduit Command
You are correct - anybody on the Internet can connect to host 1.1.1.1, which is backwards compared to an access list on an IOS-based device. As for the protocol, any IP-based protocol can be used to connect to this host. The security implications are pretty scary doing this. If this host is inside your internal network, then this would be a serious security threat as someone could take control of that box and then have their way inside your network, depending on what services are running. I wouldn't do this under any circumstances. If you post a better idea of what you want to do, I am sure that we can help you come up with a better, more secure solution. Rik "Muhammad Faheem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message F10CA2BAB231D211979A00805FC7A31A017A21A6@AFCOMP02">news:F10CA2BAB231D211979A00805FC7A31A017A21A6@AFCOMP02... Hi All Can anybody tell me whats the meaning of command "Conduit permit ip host 1.1.1.1 any" , to my understanding its allowing any body on Internet to access host using any protocol, pls correct me if i am wrong and how harmfull this could be for a secure environment. Regards Muhammad Faheem Systems Engineer Afcomp Hello : (9714)-3933878 / 3027338 Fax : (9714)-3933832 Web : www.afcomp.com [demime 0.98b removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 26xx support for NM-1E1R2W
A month or so ago, I recall someone on the list saying that they were successful in getting an NM-2E2W running in a Cisco 26xx. Has anyone managed (or even tried) to get a NM-1E1R2W card running in a 26xx router? Was it successful? I am aware that even if this configuration worked, is not supported by Cisco, but assume that I am only interested in getting this working in a lab. Thanks Adam _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless T1 WAN backup
I also have used the BR340 series bridges and very pleased with them so far. I don't know where Avran came up with the 7Mb number, but we typically get 11Mb on most installations. Cisco claims 11Mb up to 18miles (theoretical, which probably never happens) and down to 1 Mb up to 25 miles. If the end points are close enough, this does make an excellent primary circuit, while being much cheaper over the long haul. Please note: I have had no problems with atmospheric interference, but you do have to be sure that there is available frequency range(s) available in your area. Otherwise, you will have signal crossover, which is a bad thing. You also have to be aware of new construction potentially blocking your path in the future. One last word: be sure to get the proper antenna. This can make you or break you! Rik "Kim Seng" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Everyone, Have anyone experienced with Wireless T1 WAN using as a backup link? Please shed me some light or give me your comment. Thanks in advance. Kim. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco 26xx support for NM-1E1R2W
No, please refer to. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/mxne__p1.htm ""Adam Burgess"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? 003d01c0bc37$ed1651e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:003d01c0bc37$ed1651e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A month or so ago, I recall someone on the list saying that they were successful in getting an NM-2E2W running in a Cisco 26xx. Has anyone managed (or even tried) to get a NM-1E1R2W card running in a 26xx router? Was it successful? I am aware that even if this configuration worked, is not supported by Cisco, but assume that I am only interested in getting this working in a lab. Thanks Adam _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DLSW filtering
Clueless, You should be able to do this using the dmac-ouput-list option defined with your "dlsw remote-peer" statement with R2. This would identify the MAC's you'd like to filter by ACL 700-799.. ie.. R1: dlsw local-peer peer-id 1.1.1.1 --- local token ring interface dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 2.2.2.2 dmac-output-list 701 --- Peer statement for R2's token ring interface. access 701 permit 3000.3000. .. HTH Nigel.. - Original Message - From: Clue Less [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: DLSW filtering Hi all, Got a question on DLSW filtering. Say all interfaces below are configured for DLSW (ie e0 and tok 0 of R1, e0 and tok 0 of R2). How to configure on R1 so that only hosts on Ring 1 with mac address 3000.3000. can talk to hosts on Ring 2? Hosts on Ring 1 with other Mac address should still be able to talk to hosts on e0 of R2. |---e0 R1 tok0---Ring 1 | | IP cloud | | |---e0 R2 tok0---Ring 2 Clue Less. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco 26xx support for NM-1E1R2W
For NM-2E2W, it may work on 12.1XQ. But for NM-1E1R2W, I am not sure. ""Vincent"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6g)s6l%s 9acja2$ns5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9acja2$ns5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... No, please refer to. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/mxne__p1.htm ""Adam Burgess"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? 003d01c0bc37$ed1651e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:003d01c0bc37$ed1651e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A month or so ago, I recall someone on the list saying that they were successful in getting an NM-2E2W running in a Cisco 26xx. Has anyone managed (or even tried) to get a NM-1E1R2W card running in a 26xx router? Was it successful? I am aware that even if this configuration worked, is not supported by Cisco, but assume that I am only interested in getting this working in a lab. Thanks Adam _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RE: utilization rate calculation]
Hi, Talking about MIB II etc, where can I find information on these definitions and how to use SNMP with its variables? I mean all there is to know about SNMP!! Thanks in advance Dzilo "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you John for the clear explaination. I think I got confused when the book stated "MIB II variables are stored as counters, you must take two poll cycles...". Two? why two? But now I know that is just a minimum to get a rate calculation..not a value that u MUST use. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: utilization rate calculation You can poll it as often as you feel like. Look at it like this, we'll use a car as an example. Let's say you want to know how fast a car is going and the only tools you have available are a stopwatch and the odometer on the car. The speedometer is broken. If you only look at the odometer once and it says "100", does that tell you anything about the speed of the car? Nope. However, if you look at the odometer again after one minute and it says "102" then you know two things: 1) the car has gone two miles in one minute and hence is going 120 miles per hour, and 2) the driver should lose his license. (No offense Dave, I know you'll read this!) The same principle holds for MIB counters. The counters we're talking about increment once for each byte transmitted or received. Looking at it once doesn't help you much because you can't derive a rate from a single sample. If you have a lot of traffic perhaps one sample a minute isn't good enough for you, especially if the traffic is bursty. In a situation like that you might want to sample every 5 or 10 seconds just for fun to watch the ebb and flow of traffic on a link. "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/01 10:30:05 AM It makes more sense now. So it is like 2 polling cycle is MINIMUM in order to get a rate? I could use more than 2? David. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: utilization rate calculation I'll try to restate this in a way that makes sense, but the text you quoted says it pretty well. The MIB data you are accessing is stored as a counter that increments for each byte transmitted and received. Let's say you polled the router and got this information: InOctets: 543980 OutOctets: 234095 Does that tell you anything? Not really. However if you wait a minute and poll it again you could see the amount of traffic in and out of that interface over a period of time, which gives you a rate. A single poll will not give you any usefull information. To get a rate, you need to sample the data over time. In this case the data is stored in bytes so you multiply times eight to get the rate in bits per second. Does that help? If not, I'll try again later after some more coffee. g John "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/01 8:50:40 AM Hi Techies, I have recenty been reading Cisco Press' new book called "Peformance and Fault Management" and they stated to measure utilization on a WAN interface (full-duplex); it is recommended to use the following formula: max ( delta(ifInOctets), delta(ifOutOctets) x 8 x 100) -- (number of seconds in delta) x ifSpeed They state because of "MIB II variables are stored as counters, you must take two poll cycles and figure the difference between the two" hence the delta number. I don't understand why two poll cycles are needed and why is using "counters" attributed to this? Thanks, David Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console??
If it is like the early 1900 switches you will need a null modem cable - there have been a couple of threads on this issue the last 6 months. David Toalson 816-701-4142 -- From: Niraj Palikhey[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Niraj Palikhey Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? Hi, I just bought a 1912 switch(looks like an older model) that has a db-9 port for the console connection. Do I just use a regular console cable and a db-9 adapter to console in? How about the pinouts on the adapter itself? Does it follow the same pin configuration that is used for the router? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: I love this caveat!
Only on two-for-Tuesdays -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: I love this caveat! Open caveat in 12.1(7): CSCds22442 A Cisco 3600 series router will stop sending out Local Management Interface (LMI) packets. Workaround: Replace the Cisco 3600 chassis with a Cisco 7200 series platform. I wish all bug workarounds were this easy! Expensive, but easy g Are you sure? I will observe that 3600 is half of 7200. Would the 7200 fix two buggy 3600s? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sorry, I had to send this one :-)
Hehe...good one. Hey does anyone know how the url trick works that could explain it to me? I see the IP address and .asp page but I'm not sure what the item-q209355@ part does. - Original Message - From: "Ole Drews Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: OT: Sorry, I had to send this one :-) Anyone familiar with Microsoft's Knowledgebase? - I don't think you've seen this one :-) http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp Happy studying, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the netmon software?
NT 4 version is on Backoffice, Resource Kit, and SMS CDs. Win2K it is included in add/remove - Management Monitoring - Details - Network Monitor Tools. Allen May - Original Message - From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:59 AM Subject: where to get the netmon software? Hi... May I know netmon to get the netmon software which is NT network analyser software? Do we need license to install? Any free copy?? Thanks in advance Sim == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: I love this caveat!
Yeah but if that's true, wouldn't the 3600 work on half-price Wednesdays? - Original Message - From: "Jim Dixon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:44 AM Subject: RE: OT: I love this caveat! Only on two-for-Tuesdays -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 6:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: I love this caveat! Open caveat in 12.1(7): CSCds22442 A Cisco 3600 series router will stop sending out Local Management Interface (LMI) packets. Workaround: Replace the Cisco 3600 chassis with a Cisco 7200 series platform. I wish all bug workarounds were this easy! Expensive, but easy g Are you sure? I will observe that 3600 is half of 7200. Would the 7200 fix two buggy 3600s? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
"certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Get ready to update IDS soon
Interesting reading for those using IDS. snip DURING A SEMINAR last week at the CanSecWest conference in Vancouver, British Columbia, a hacker named "K2" revealed a program he created that can camouflage the tiny programs that hackers generally use to crack through system security. The cloaking technique is aimed at foiling the pattern-recognition intelligence used by many intrusion detection systems http://www.msnbc.com/news/553867.asp _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX IOS upgrade
I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
Very well said!! - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "The.Rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
Certs make bad breath a thing of the past... ;-} CCNP, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I, MCT, CCP, NNCSA See how fresh my breath is? I'm proud of my certs, but I hate typing all of this stuff! I attained these certifications as steps in my path of learning, not as the primary goal. Of course, they didn't hurt the wallet either! Used to be that employers fell for the old "he/she is certified, so that must indicate ability" line, but I think most have wisened up to that by now. Fresh breath helps, but some other quality, such as experience, hard-working, management skills, etc., is needed to really succeed these days. Rik "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RE: utilization rate calculation]
This is a good start Dzilo... http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/fund/ith2nd/it2452.htm -Original Message- From: Charles Nunie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:13 AM To: Luong David Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE: utilization rate calculation] Hi, Talking about MIB II etc, where can I find information on these definitions and how to use SNMP with its variables? I mean all there is to know about SNMP!! Thanks in advance Dzilo "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank-you John for the clear explaination. I think I got confused when the book stated "MIB II variables are stored as counters, you must take two poll cycles...". Two? why two? But now I know that is just a minimum to get a rate calculation..not a value that u MUST use. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: utilization rate calculation You can poll it as often as you feel like. Look at it like this, we'll use a car as an example. Let's say you want to know how fast a car is going and the only tools you have available are a stopwatch and the odometer on the car. The speedometer is broken. If you only look at the odometer once and it says "100", does that tell you anything about the speed of the car? Nope. However, if you look at the odometer again after one minute and it says "102" then you know two things: 1) the car has gone two miles in one minute and hence is going 120 miles per hour, and 2) the driver should lose his license. (No offense Dave, I know you'll read this!) The same principle holds for MIB counters. The counters we're talking about increment once for each byte transmitted or received. Looking at it once doesn't help you much because you can't derive a rate from a single sample. If you have a lot of traffic perhaps one sample a minute isn't good enough for you, especially if the traffic is bursty. In a situation like that you might want to sample every 5 or 10 seconds just for fun to watch the ebb and flow of traffic on a link. "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/01 10:30:05 AM It makes more sense now. So it is like 2 polling cycle is MINIMUM in order to get a rate? I could use more than 2? David. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: utilization rate calculation I'll try to restate this in a way that makes sense, but the text you quoted says it pretty well. The MIB data you are accessing is stored as a counter that increments for each byte transmitted and received. Let's say you polled the router and got this information: InOctets: 543980 OutOctets: 234095 Does that tell you anything? Not really. However if you wait a minute and poll it again you could see the amount of traffic in and out of that interface over a period of time, which gives you a rate. A single poll will not give you any usefull information. To get a rate, you need to sample the data over time. In this case the data is stored in bytes so you multiply times eight to get the rate in bits per second. Does that help? If not, I'll try again later after some more coffee. g John "Luong, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/01 8:50:40 AM Hi Techies, I have recenty been reading Cisco Press' new book called "Peformance and Fault Management" and they stated to measure utilization on a WAN interface (full-duplex); it is recommended to use the following formula: max ( delta(ifInOctets), delta(ifOutOctets) x 8 x 100) -- (number of seconds in delta) x ifSpeed They state because of "MIB II variables are stored as counters, you must take two poll cycles and figure the difference between the two" hence the delta number. I don't understand why two poll cycles are needed and why is using "counters" attributed to this? Thanks, David Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
Hey...isn't this the thread that went on for days a couple weeks ago and I cashed in on all the 2 cents and the 2 bobs? I'm gonna be rich! - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the netmon software?
Have a look at Ethereal at http://www.ethereal.com/ It is better (IMHO) than Netmon and Free Dom |+--- || Allen May| || amay@insync.| || net | || | || 03/04/2001 | || 15:23| || Please | || respond to | || Allen May| || | |+--- | || | To: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED], | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Dom Stocqueler/LON/GB/Reuters) | | Subject: Re: where to get the netmon software? | | Header: Internal Use Only | | NT 4 version is on Backoffice, Resource Kit, and SMS CDs. Win2K it is included in add/remove - Management Monitoring - Details - Network Monitor Tools. Allen May - Original Message - From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:59 AM Subject: where to get the netmon software? Hi... May I know netmon to get the netmon software which is NT network analyser software? Do we need license to install? Any free copy?? Thanks in advance Sim == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get the netmon software?
Looks like a good one. Thanks for the link. Pretty boxes around the email headers...heh. Lotus Notes? - Original Message - From: "Dom Stocqueler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Allen May" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:59 AM Subject: Re: where to get the netmon software? Have a look at Ethereal at http://www.ethereal.com/ It is better (IMHO) than Netmon and Free Dom |+--- || Allen May| || amay@insync.| || net | || | || 03/04/2001 | || 15:23| || Please | || respond to | || Allen May| || | |+--- --- -| | | | To: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED], | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: (bcc: Dom Stocqueler/LON/GB/Reuters) | | Subject: Re: where to get the netmon software? | | Header: Internal Use Only | --- -| NT 4 version is on Backoffice, Resource Kit, and SMS CDs. Win2K it is included in add/remove - Management Monitoring - Details - Network Monitor Tools. Allen May - Original Message - From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:59 AM Subject: where to get the netmon software? Hi... May I know netmon to get the netmon software which is NT network analyser software? Do we need license to install? Any free copy?? Thanks in advance Sim == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pix Performance Issues
""Kevin O'Gilvie"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I only have 32 megs on the 515r, the upgrade adds 32 m and a licence which makes it 515UR for 6k. I was thinking that it was pptp, but since I am using local authentication, users authenticate at the fw with one username and password, authentication is very fast but checking email browsing network and saving files etc., is at a crawl. Just opening outlook can take 20 min. I am hoping that the win2k client will solve some of these problems, can someone send me the link. Therein lies the answer to your problem - VPNs on 56k modems aren't going to be fast. Browsing the network, checking email (with a live connection to the server), etc are all too bandwidth intensive for your 56k modems to keep up. Either get them on broadband, or change the way they work remotely. Regards, Adrian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Check out this link before it disappears. It seems that someone has hacked into the M$ kb and placed a funny TID in there. Mark http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.MarkDMahoney.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
i totally agree with you.. . . it is an opportunity to learn and get some sort of recognition of your effort.. some employers don't have a positive impression of certs merly because of some minorities who 'memorise' exam questions and actually passed..! it was a good thing Cisco maintain a high standard in their questions so that only those who deserve it will get it... cheers for cisco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RG Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Very well said!! - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "The.Rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
port monitoring software
I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem.
Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not personal (hah!).I am having trouble getting a router to route between two networks (10.166.x.x /24 and 10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2) that has two ethernet interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network, on the other 10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the routing table both networks show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x network from the 10.20.30.x. I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man. Thanks, F. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No Subject
I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply
Very well thought out and educated response on certification. Thank You.. On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Berger wrote: i totally agree with you.. . . it is an opportunity to learn and get some sort of recognition of your effort.. some employers don't have a positive impression of certs merly because of some minorities who 'memorise' exam questions and actually passed..! it was a good thing Cisco maintain a high standard in their questions so that only those who deserve it will get it... cheers for cisco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RG Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Very well said!! - Original Message - From: "Greg Macaulay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "The.Rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port monitoring software
Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. A couple more points: I hear people say that certifications are expensive you best study hard before paying. They are not. Take them 3 or 4 times each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job security. Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a "quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by their own admission. You need the whole degree. ...and yes. CCIE's will triple. There were no books. Now there are. Books make tests easy. That is what make Juniper's test so hard now. You can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book that is designed around the exam. Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please put out a book that gets paper people up to par. Something to read after the exam and before your first interview. I think it would be very helpful to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs. You'll be "Published". That puts you in the upper-diety range. You can live a lifetime on that. - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and others, the same would hold true in our field. Some individuals in inately intuitive, without certs, and others -- the majority -- will become the average IT Joe/Jane who work day-to-day in this field. Certainly there will always be the small numbers who are totally incompetent. But it is not because the certs are merely paper. That's my 2 cents.
Re: Need some HELP.
Try this: http://www.tcpmag.com/salarysurvey/2001/default.asp -- Kind regards, Alexander N. Khramov, CCNA Student Technical Consultant NSU, Computing and Telecommunications [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem.
If both of those networks are directly attached, your choice of routing protocol is irrelevant. I would check the usual: host configurations, IP addresses, subnet masks, etc. If this isn't a production router, turn on debugging and see if that gives you any clues. debug ip packet will show you if the packets are being routed. Can you ping hosts on both networks from the router? If so, this is probably a default gateway issue. The hosts don't know where to send off-network responses. Just a guess, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/01 9:42:29 AM Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not personal (hah!).I am having trouble getting a router to route between two networks (10.166.x.x /24 and 10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2) that has two ethernet interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network, on the other 10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the routing table both networks show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x network from the 10.20.30.x. I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man. Thanks, F. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port monitoring software
I assume that would be at www.whatsup.com. Is this correct? - Original Message - From: Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem.
Sometimes it's best to question the hosts. Do they have the correct default gateway for their subnet? Can they ping their local interface? Can they ping the other interface? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem. Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not personal (hah!).I am having trouble getting a router to route between two networks (10.166.x.x /24 and 10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2) that has two ethernet interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network, on the other 10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the routing table both networks show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x network from the 10.20.30.x. I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man. Thanks, F. Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX CPU
Is there a "sh proc cpu" command on the PIX or something similar? I am curious to know if a certain process is killing my CPU. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Scott M. Trieste _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EIGRP Distance Command
Anybody has experimented with the EIGRP Distance commad. I'm using it to change the AD for updates received from a certain neighbor but for some reason it only works for me with internal updates. I'm using the following configuration router eigrp 100 network 150.100.0.0 distance 200 150.100.1.3 0.0.0.0 50 no auto-summary ! access-list 50 permit any log as you can see in the sh ip route below this is working for the internal updates but no for the external. r1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 150.100.1.2 to network 0.0.0.0 169.11.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets D EX 169.11.1.0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 147.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 147.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer0 148.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 148.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer1 150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 15 subnets, 4 masks D 150.100.250.0/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.0/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.250.16/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.64/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.100.0/24 [200/2681856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.105.0/24 [190/2195456] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.0/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.4/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.8/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.22.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.20.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.21.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.24.0/24 [200/2195456] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 C 150.100.2.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1 C 150.100.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0.1 D*EX 0.0.0.0/0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.2, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01 Thanks Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port monitoring software
http://www.ipswitch.com/ And very funny...someone tried a port scan with Whatsup Gold as soon as I posted that. ;) IP: 158.81.166.106 Node: STEPHEN Group: DEFAULTWG NetBIOS: T016814 MAC: 00805F4789F7 DNS: STEPHEN WhatsUp Scan hehe...funny...now cut it out Stephen ;) - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Allen May" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software I assume that would be at www.whatsup.com. Is this correct? - Original Message - From: Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I disagree with the assesment of the CCNA being a hard test. I would say it was much easier than any university exam I took with the possible exception of Psych100. You also do not need many math skills to pass a CCNA-ok maybe what hex and binary are etc but thats about it. Even BCRAN and BCMSN were not all that hard. University gives you an education and while certs can help you get a job they do not really educate you unless you are completely new to the networking field. I do agree that with more and more books coming on the market all certs will have more people completing them including juniper and CCIE but that is what Cisco and Juniper want as they need support people if they want to keep increasing sales. stuart -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: B J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:52 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. A couple more points: I hear people say that certifications are expensive you best study hard before paying. They are not. Take them 3 or 4 times each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job security. Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a "quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by their own admission. You need the whole degree. ...and yes. CCIE's will triple. There were no books. Now there are. Books make tests easy. That is what make Juniper's test so hard now. You can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book that is designed around the exam. Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please put out a book that gets paper people up to par. Something to read after the exam and before your first interview. I think it would be very helpful to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs. You'll be "Published". That puts you in the upper-diety range. You can live a lifetime on that. - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising
RE: How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS
If you company purchased service contracts on the Cisco devices, then the reseller should provide the service contract number(s). You should be able then to get a CCO User account. You would be allowed to download IOS to update (newer rev) not upgrade (more features) your systems. To upgrade you have to pay for the additional features. When you update IOS you don't need to save your config to another location. However, a prudent person would - just in case. You do not want to delete the contents of Flash unless you are following Cisco's instructions for an IOS update. Details vary depending on model of router. -Original Message- From: David spalding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to get cisco CCO and aware of latest IOS Hi.. May I know how to get CCO member. Our company bought a lot of equipment from a cisco reseller, but what info can I provide to cisco inorder to get in CCO ID and password I want to up grade my cisco device's IOS, but I don't where to get it from? Is that from CCO sites?? If I upgrade the IOS, do I still need to reinstall the current config? If I delete the IOS in the flash what will happen to cisco device? david __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: port monitoring software
www.ipswitch.com I use webtrends enterprise suite, its integrated and i happened to stumble upon it.. I've heard big brother is okay as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:49 AM To: Allen May; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: port monitoring software I assume that would be at www.whatsup.com. Is this correct? - Original Message - From: Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: EIGRP Distance Command
Anybody has experimented with the EIGRP Distance commad. I'm using it to change the AD for updates received from a certain neighbor but for some reason it only works for me with internal updates. I'm using the following configuration router eigrp 100 network 150.100.0.0 distance 200 150.100.1.3 0.0.0.0 50 no auto-summary ! access-list 50 permit any log as you can see in the sh ip route below this is working for the internal updates but no for the external. r1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 150.100.1.2 to network 0.0.0.0 169.11.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets D EX 169.11.1.0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 147.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 147.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer0 148.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 148.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer1 150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 15 subnets, 4 masks D 150.100.250.0/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.0/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.250.16/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.64/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.100.0/24 [200/2681856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.105.0/24 [190/2195456] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.0/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.4/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.8/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.22.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.20.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.21.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.24.0/24 [200/2195456] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 C 150.100.2.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1 C 150.100.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0.1 D*EX 0.0.0.0/0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.2, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01 Thanks Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: port monitoring software
http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/WhatsUp/ Heather Buri CSC Technology Services - Houston Phone: (713)-961-8592 Fax:(713)-961-8249 Mobile: Alpha Page: Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd Suite 500 Houston, TX 77056 -Original Message- From: Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:49 AM To: Allen May; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: port monitoring software I assume that would be at www.whatsup.com. Is this correct? - Original Message - From: Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Port Information
Can anybody send me all the port number information? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIP II Route update ?
Sorry Howard, I appear to have deleted the original thread. Howard, You mentioned that computing the network mask from a 6 bit field would be detremental causing unnecessary CPU overhead, however, this CPU overhead would only be in nano-seconds compared to the serialisation delay i.e getting the extra bits on and off the wire. As a counter argument the first byte of an IP header is generally 0x45, whereby the first 4 bits represent the IP version and the least significant 4 bits represent the number of 32 bit quantities making up the IP header. Just a thought, Phil. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I would definitely have to disagree with "certs can help you get a job they do not really educate you unless you are completely new to the networking field." I think that if in the process of getting your cert, you read something other that exam cram, there is a lot to learn. If you look at the cert process as a chance to learn new things, rather than as a chance to memorize a bunch of stuff, there is a lot to be learned. Maybe you can recite by heart every intricacy of the routing protocols covered in "Routing TCP/IP" by Doyle. Not just how to configure them, but how they operate and how they make decisions, or all of the info on switching contained in "LAN Switching" by Kennedy. But most people can't. They may know quite a bit, but if you read both of those books from cover to cover I am willing to bet that somewhere in them there will be at least one new thing that you learn, or hadn't thought about before. The process also let's some of us who don't work in an IBM environment learn something about those protocols. Does this matter? Yes because the more you understand about different protocols, the deeper you can understand how yours work, and how to make them interoperatre. So, if you approach the cert process as a chance to learn that one new thing, rather that memorize what you need to pass a test, then it can educate you. They can give you the incentive to read that one book that you could never find the time to read before, or to try something new in your lab, and figure out how it really works, rather that just how to configure it. You can only learn if you let yourself learn, but if you do then anything can be a learning experience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stuart Laubstein Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:17 AM To: 'B J'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX I disagree with the assesment of the CCNA being a hard test. I would say it was much easier than any university exam I took with the possible exception of Psych100. You also do not need many math skills to pass a CCNA-ok maybe what hex and binary are etc but thats about it. Even BCRAN and BCMSN were not all that hard. University gives you an education and while certs can help you get a job they do not really educate you unless you are completely new to the networking field. I do agree that with more and more books coming on the market all certs will have more people completing them including juniper and CCIE but that is what Cisco and Juniper want as they need support people if they want to keep increasing sales. stuart -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: B J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:52 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. A couple more points: I hear people say that certifications are expensive you best study hard before paying. They are not. Take them 3 or 4 times each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job security. Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a "quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by their own admission. You need the whole degree. ...and yes. CCIE's will triple. There were no books. Now there are. Books make tests easy. That is what make Juniper's test so hard now. You can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book that is designed around the exam. Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please put out a book that gets paper people up to par. Something to read after the exam and before your first interview. I think it would be very helpful to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs. You'll be "Published". That puts you in the upper-diety range. You can live a lifetime on that. - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA
Re: PIX IOS upgrade
only thing I saw on Cisco site was a recommendation to upgrade one level at a time to avoid lossing Activation key make sure you write this down you can see be using the sh ver command also after you upgrade above 5.1 you can go back to 4.x something about damage to flash Good Luck "Paul L Holloway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 07:48AM I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul only thing I saw on Cisco site was a recommendation to upgrade one level at a time to avoid lossing Activation keymake sure you write this down you can see be using the sh ver commandalso after you upgrade above 5.1 you can go back to 4.x something about damage to flash Good Luck "Paul L Holloway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 07:48AM I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PIX IOS upgrade
Make sure you have met the system requirements for the new Softcode. ""Paul L Holloway"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: port monitoring software
I use mrtg for rmon stuff. Its not for instantaneous alarms. It just does snmp gets and makes html pages and gifs. It works extrememly well and has been invaluable in measuring bandwidth...especially when exodus tries to pull a fast one on us for our monthly usage bills. Whatsup works really well and is really cheap too. We would all like something like OpenView or Unicenterbut sometimes the shotgun approach causes more headaches in the long run Blake -Original Message- From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:22 AM To: 'Scott'; 'Allen May'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: port monitoring software www.ipswitch.com I use webtrends enterprise suite, its integrated and i happened to stumble upon it.. I've heard big brother is okay as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:49 AM To: Allen May; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: port monitoring software I assume that would be at www.whatsup.com. Is this correct? - Original Message - From: Allen May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:48 AM Subject: Re: port monitoring software Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PIX IOS upgrade
There are some caveats with the new code and what it does to the flash, but there is no reason to upgrade incrementally. Upgrading a PIX does not patch the code like service packing an MS box. It will actually replace the current OS with the new one. Just be sure to run a "sh ver" and write down the activation key. You can use this again when the need arises. Rik ""Paul L Holloway"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: EIGRP Distance Command
Alvaro, From your table, we see that all routes for which the next hop is 150.100.1.3 have a distance of 200 instead of 170. If my souvenirs from my tests are still OK, the IP address that you specifies is the next hop/advertising router for which the distance will be applied. In the doc, it is stated that this command can be used to "dis-qualify" routes learned from a router outside your administrative area The access list can be used to filter which routes from that router will have the specified distance. If you wanted to put a weight 88 to any routes matching ACL 33 and coming from anywhere, you would configure: distance 88 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 33 I checked the command reference, and to say the least, it is either misleading or completely wrong ;-) Regards, Michel http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_r/1rprt1/1rindep.htm#xtocid2115214 "Riera, Alvaro (4152)" wrote: Anybody has experimented with the EIGRP Distance commad. I'm using it to change the AD for updates received from a certain neighbor but for some reason it only works for me with internal updates. I'm using the following configuration router eigrp 100 network 150.100.0.0 distance 200 150.100.1.3 0.0.0.0 50 no auto-summary ! access-list 50 permit any log as you can see in the sh ip route below this is working for the internal updates but no for the external. r1#sh ip route Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter area * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR P - periodic downloaded static route Gateway of last resort is 150.100.1.2 to network 0.0.0.0 169.11.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets D EX 169.11.1.0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 147.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 147.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer0 148.10.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 148.10.1.0 is directly connected, Dialer1 150.100.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 15 subnets, 4 masks D 150.100.250.0/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.0/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:44, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.250.16/28 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.254.64/26 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.100.0/24 [200/2681856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:55, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.105.0/24 [190/2195456] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:45, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.0/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.4/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.32.8/30 [190/2297856] via 150.100.1.2, 01:55:46, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.22.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.20.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.21.0/24 [200/2297856] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 D 150.100.24.0/24 [200/2195456] via 150.100.1.3, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 C 150.100.2.0/24 is directly connected, FastEthernet0/1 C 150.100.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0/0.1 D*EX 0.0.0.0/0 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.2, 01:54:57, Serial0/0.1 [170/2218752] via 150.100.1.3, 01 Thanks Alvaro Riera CCIE 6826, CCNP+Voice Access+Security, CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem.
Fartcatcher (great name!), the previous 2 posts have good info in them, so check that stuff out. If everything is kosher (no offense to those members of the Jewish faith!), then you might check that the router is setup to for classless addressing. I can't remember if that version of IOS has "ip classless" set by default, but you can enter this in global configuration mode just to be sure. On newer IOS, this is the default. If this is not on, then you will have problems. Classfully, the router would determine that both interfaces are on the same network. Change the netmask to 255.0.0.0, which is the classful mask for the 10.x.x.x network, and you will see that both interfaces are indeed on the same network. As a rule, a router cannot have 2 interfaces participating within the same network. Adding "ip classless" to the config will allow the router to bypass legacy classful boundaries and actually mask what you tell it to, thereby putting each interface into a unique network. Hope this helps! Rik "fartcatcher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 9acv28$pf2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9acv28$pf2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not personal (hah!).I am having trouble getting a router to route between two networks (10.166.x.x /24 and 10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2) that has two ethernet interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network, on the other 10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the routing table both networks show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x network from the 10.20.30.x. I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man. Thanks, F. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port monitoring software
I too use MRTG. Not the easiest to setup if you don't have any PERL experience, but still not too bad. It makes a real nice compliment to WUG/CiscoView. Rik ""Allen May"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 01fa01c0bc55$9016cfb0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:01fa01c0bc55$9016cfb0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Whatsup Gold is nice. I'm sure there are better/cheaper but this one definitely works. Allen - Original Message - From: "Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: port monitoring software I am in need of a software program that will monitor the ports on a Catalyst 5505 and log when ports go down and up etc... If anyone has any information on this topic please let me know Thanks, _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem.
Well, since these are directly connected networks EIGRP isn't used. Check the default gateways of the PCs you are pinging and make sure it is set to either e0 or e1, or they have a route back to the other network with e0 or e1 as the next hop. If there is another router off e0 or e1 speaking EIGRP then you should have a EIGRP neighbor adj formed. If you don't have a EIGRP adj formed then routes will not be exchanged. --- fartcatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not personal (hah!).I am having trouble getting a router to route between two networks (10.166.x.x /24 and 10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2) that has two ethernet interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network, on the other 10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the routing table both networks show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x network from the 10.20.30.x. I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man. Thanks, F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console??
OK, I plugged in a null modem cable and now what? I hate to ask anyone solutions to my problems the easy way out but I apologize for this. Would I be able to get the info. on CCO? I was not sure how the null modem cable could get me into the switch using Hyperterm. It does not. I have used a null modem to get into a 3com switch with 3c0m's web-based software. So I am thinking that Cisco would also have a similiar kind of software on CCO? Please advise. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:27:52 -0100 You'll need a null modem cable to get into it from the console. It's an old firmware version switch. Phil - Original Message - From: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? Hi, I just bought a 1912 switch(looks like an older model) that has a db-9 port for the console connection. Do I just use a regular console cable and a db-9 adapter to console in? How about the pinouts on the adapter itself? Does it follow the same pin configuration that is used for the router? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco IOS version relating to pdf docs
*Sometimes* in the footer of the PDF file there is the title of the parent document. On the website itself, if you click on "Contents" from the HTML page, it will take you back to the parent, which gives you the name of the overall document. Cisco is spotty about dating and marking revision numbers on their documentation, either PDF or HTML - some PDF's have the date, some don't, so it's a "best guess" sort of scenario. At 06:26 PM 4/2/01, Hugo wrote: If you click on the pdf icon after searching the CD or CCO you get a much more printer friendly doc. But it is usually a chapter of some unnamed document, with an unidentified date/revision. Is there any simple way of checking which document it is, and whether there is a later revision? Thanks, Hugo _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RIP II Route update ?
Sorry Howard, I appear to have deleted the original thread. Howard, You mentioned that computing the network mask from a 6 bit field would be detremental causing unnecessary CPU overhead, however, this CPU overhead would only be in nano-seconds compared to the serialisation delay i.e getting the extra bits on and off the wire. The issue isn't serialization delay. Masking has to take place in the "fast path" of the router, which indeed may be an ASIC, etc., that only knows how to do very basic operations. Every nanosecond you add to a packet in the main data path is significant, especially at gigabit speeds. The basic operations in this path (I'm talking about pure forwarding--don't even think about routing protocols) include: extracting the destination field, masking it, and looking up the next hop decrementing the TTL field and recomputing the header checksum adding whatever internal headers are needed and sending it to the next hop. While fragmentation is less and less a requirement, there are more and more needs to do traffic shaping and other QoS stuff. Lots of carriers want accounting in the fast path. Protection against denial of service means either filtering (ouch!) or reverse path verification, which is somewhat more scalable but still takes cycles. As a counter argument the first byte of an IP header is generally 0x45, whereby the first 4 bits represent the IP version and the least significant 4 bits represent the number of 32 bit quantities making up the IP header. And you're talking about a header that was designed no later than 1981, and even then had some backwards compatibility issues. While it is true that the first few bits of the IPv6 header are a version indicator, that can be tested with a single instruction. IPv6 doesn't have a header length field. Instead, it has a fixed basic header with a pointer to optional fixed-length extended headers, or a null pointer that says there are no more header fields. This was no accident; it was very carefully considered as necessary for high-performance routing. Just a thought, Phil. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CIT for CCNP 2.0
any idea how difficult CIT is ? i found the rest three of CCNP pretty easy !! anything worth a mention ? - Get free personalized email at http://email.lycos.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feeling a bit dumb today, need help with routing problem. - dumbness solved!
Thanks for the responses everyone. I found out what the problem was. I was
missing a route on the end router (which I had to add later in place of our
firewall). My 'little' network is working fine.
Thanks everyone,
fartcatcher.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Erick B.") wrote:
Well, since these are directly connected networks
EIGRP isn't used. Check the default gateways of the
PCs you are pinging and make sure it is set to either
e0 or e1, or they have a route back to the other
network with e0 or e1 as the next hop.
If there is another router off e0 or e1 speaking EIGRP
then you should have a EIGRP neighbor adj formed. If
you don't have a EIGRP adj formed then routes will not
be exchanged.
--- fartcatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone, I have a problem and no it's not
personal (hah!).I am having
trouble getting a router to route between two
networks (10.166.x.x /24 and
10.20.30.x /24). I have a cisco 1605 (running 11.2)
that has two ethernet
interfaces. On eth0 I have the 10.166.x.x network,
on the other
10.20.30.x./24. I have eigrp enabled and in the
routing table both networks
show up, but I can't ping a host on the 10.166.x.x
network from the
10.20.30.x.
I know this is very simple, but I am a simple man.
Thanks,
F.
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Re: debug ip error
or it's undeb all (used to be even easier, in "the good ole days", u al worked) if that was a production router, then you need to be severely warned about using the debug commands (especially the packet-trapping commands) on a production machine. Just the volume of ASCII spewing onto the console will lock up your router console connection (believe me... I've done it intentionally a few times) if you really do have to do it on a production router, I'd suggest that you create a host-specific access-list before you issue the command, and apply the access list to the debug. You'll stand a better chance of recovering from that... -e- At 04:57 AM 4/3/01, garrett allen wrote: one tip is to issue the no debug all command prior to issuing debug all. that way when the router display begins spewing debug info you can issue an up arrow and enter command sequence to get out of debug mode. Gayathri wrote: Hi Group, Recently due to some problems my colleague issued a debug ip error command on the rsm. The problem is we could not stop the process at all. We tried using the no debug ip error but it never came out of the process, there was a lot of details regarding routing info . Luckily for us we had HSRP. We had to reboot the RSM , manually i.e, remove the card and insert it back. Is this a common thing that we cant stop the debug ip error process. Thanks Gayathri _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allen May - Rich man 2 cents at a time (was Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply)
I think you're up to 2 bits now, Allen...2 more bits and you'll be up to a nibble. ;-) At 08:04 AM 4/3/01, Allen May wrote: Hey...isn't this the thread that went on for days a couple weeks ago and I cashed in on all the 2 cents and the 2 bobs? I'm gonna be rich! [snip] That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
B J wrote: The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Why do so many people feel that comparing apples to oranges will strengthen their point? Anthropology has nothing to do with networking, and knowlege of one has nothing to do with knowlege of the other. And Its been a while, but I don't really remember any math problems on my CCNA test, unless you consider subnetting to be a real mathmatical challenge. Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. Oh, I see now. You are a schmuck. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major??? What are you be smoking? You are wrong wrong wrong. A degree is far more valuable than a vender specific certification. -Original Message- From: B J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. A couple more points: I hear people say that certifications are expensive you best study hard before paying. They are not. Take them 3 or 4 times each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job security. Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a "quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by their own admission. You need the whole degree. ...and yes. CCIE's will triple. There were no books. Now there are. Books make tests easy. That is what make Juniper's test so hard now. You can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book that is designed around the exam. Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please put out a book that gets paper people up to par. Something to read after the exam and before your first interview. I think it would be very helpful to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs. You'll be "Published". That puts you in the upper-diety range. You can live a lifetime on that. - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a mischaracterization. As I put forth above, every academic or professional degree is indeed initially a paper cert -- but with potential. IT folks who obtain these certs by and large have the potential to succeed. Just as there are bright, average and incompetent lawyers, doctors and
Non-ISL InterVLAN Routing
Hi,Group. I have been searching for sample configurations on InterVLAN routing without using ISL (bec. I don't have a FE interface) and I could not find any on CCO. My questions then are: 1. Is my only option then to use subinterfaces on the Ethernet port on the "Router-on-a-stick" design? Meaning each VLAN having its own subinterface route? 2. As far as switch configuration goes, the only device that gets attention is the Cat5000 when VLANs are discussed in the CLSC books by Kennedy Clark or Kevin Downes. Or even Hutnik's study guide. I can't find one that uses the Cisco IOS CLI examples. Therefore, the books state that for the switch to be configured with any other VLAN number (the default as we know is 1) it must be assigned a VTP domain name. Is this also true for the 2900XL-EN series or can I configure multiple VLANs without VTP? Following Howard's method of analysis, the problem I'm trying to solve is to be able to provide connectivity to a client inside my network but allowing their traffic not to be subjected to the firewall rules, hence the idea of using VLANs. If this can work it will save me a pair of fiber to the client's building. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks. Elmer Deloso _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
LOL. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Drew Simonis Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:05 PM To: B J Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX B J wrote: The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Why do so many people feel that comparing apples to oranges will strengthen their point? Anthropology has nothing to do with networking, and knowlege of one has nothing to do with knowlege of the other. And Its been a while, but I don't really remember any math problems on my CCNA test, unless you consider subnetting to be a real mathmatical challenge. Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. Oh, I see now. You are a schmuck. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW:1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console??
Hyperterminal should work 8N1 9600. I use Reflections, but have used Hyperterminal to access my 1900 switches. You should just be able to plug in and load hyperterminal - this will give you access to the menu on the switch. From there you can modify it as you wish. The 1900 also has a mode button. Hold that in as you power cycle the switch and you will enter the configuration mode. One of the options there is to reset to factory defaults. You might try that as well. Feel free to email me off-line, or call me, if you have more specific questions. David Toalson 816-701-4142 -- From: Niraj Palikhey[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Niraj Palikhey Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? OK, I plugged in a null modem cable and now what? I hate to ask anyone solutions to my problems the easy way out but I apologize for this. Would I be able to get the info. on CCO? I was not sure how the null modem cable could get me into the switch using Hyperterm. It does not. I have used a null modem to get into a 3com switch with 3c0m's web-based software. So I am thinking that Cisco would also have a similiar kind of software on CCO? Please advise. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:27:52 -0100 You'll need a null modem cable to get into it from the console. It's an old firmware version switch. Phil - Original Message - From: "Niraj Palikhey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: 1912 switch with a DB-9 port for console?? Hi, I just bought a 1912 switch(looks like an older model) that has a db-9 port for the console connection. Do I just use a regular console cable and a db-9 adapter to console in? How about the pinouts on the adapter itself? Does it follow the same pin configuration that is used for the router? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco TAC Web Tools Seminar
FYI FWIW Cisco Technical Assistance Center News Flash - April 2, 2001 http://www.cisco.com/tac -- Cisco TAC Web Tools Seminar __ Dear Eric, To ensure your awareness of the Cisco TAC Web Site support tools and technical content available to you and to help you understand how to utilize them effectively, we'd like to invite you to attend a free online Cisco TAC Web Tools Seminar. Familiarize yourself with the Cisco TAC Web Site resources by watching a presentation online while you listen to a live presenter over the phone. At the conclusion of the presentation, you may ask questions about the tools and content related to your specific interests and issues. This training session will teach you how to find the technical information necessary for: * Designing and supporting your networks * Enhancing your networking skills * Implementing and configuring products and networks * Troubleshooting network issues The Cisco TAC Web Tools Seminar is intended for an audience of networking engineers, executives managing support organizations, and technical support staff interested in learning about the strategic and tactical advantages of online technical support. Learn how Cisco online technical support can magnify the power of your current networking resources. To view available seminar dates and register for an event, please visit: http://www.cisco.com/tac/newsflash/042001_webtools_seminar.html (available to registered and non-registered users) An international contact number is available. Please note that fees for international calls are the responsibility of the customer. Sincerely, Cisco Technical Assistance Center -- If you do not wish to receive future communications about the latest online technical support content and tools from Cisco, please respond to this e-mail and write "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the subject heading. Copyright (c) 2001 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved. Cisco, Cisco IOS, Cisco Systems, and the Cisco Systems logo are registered trademarks of Cisco Systems, Inc. or its affiliates in the U.S. and certain other countries. All other brands, names, or trademarks mentioned in this document or Web site are the property of their respective owners. The use of the word partner does not imply a partnership relationship between Cisco and any other company. (0102R) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
Once again, it totally depends on the subject matter being studied. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:11 PM To: 'B J'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major??? What are you be smoking? You are wrong wrong wrong. A degree is far more valuable than a vender specific certification. -Original Message- From: B J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. A couple more points: I hear people say that certifications are expensive you best study hard before paying. They are not. Take them 3 or 4 times each, pay your $300 or $400 and enjoy your huge $5000+ raise and job security. Don't postpone it. People a class in Art Appreciation at a "quality university" is going to run you $300 to $400 and is worthless by their own admission. You need the whole degree. ...and yes. CCIE's will triple. There were no books. Now there are. Books make tests easy. That is what make Juniper's test so hard now. You can't read the 12 to 15 they have listed as easily as you can one Sybex book that is designed around the exam. Finally, if you are very knowledgeable and dislike "paper certs". Please put out a book that gets paper people up to par. Something to read after the exam and before your first interview. I think it would be very helpful to many, who have a desire but lack an entire network at home. Plus, if you think people are gaining an edge on you because of certs. You'll be "Published". That puts you in the upper-diety range. You can live a lifetime on that. - Original Message - From: "Scott Baron" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply Has anyone noticed that people arguing the most that certs dont matter are the ones that haven't 'bothered' to get them. I know that isn't true for everyone... so don't flame me but... see where generalities get you! How shortsited can you be to simply make a blanket statement... certs don't prove anything... geez. Scott M. Baron CCNP, CCDP, MCP, CNA -Original Message- From: Greg Macaulay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 9:30 AM To: The.Rock; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply "certs don't prove anything" ??? I'm not sure that I can agree with that statement. Certs IMHO represent an interest by the individual in the subject matter, and a determined effort to undertake studies necessary to become more knowledgeable. Certainly, obtaining a cert. does not make one a guru. But it usually (albeit not all the time) indicates a person who has shown some willingness to learn. I view the knowledge I gained by studying for my certs as a foundation to be built upon over the coming years. Perhaps I have only a passing or introductory knowledge of some subjects at this juncture -- but I assume -- and I certainly hope that as every year passes, I will build upon that foundation knowledge and at some point I will undergo a slow, but steady metamorphosis into a guru of sorts! But at this juncture with my certs, I would certainly agree that I have just enough knowledge to be dangerous! smile I would compare the cert study to obtaining academic and professional degrees. Certainly upon graduation, grads are not experts in any area, but they possess the fundamentals upon which to build. A lawyer, for example, may indeed represent any survivors of a plane crash is his/her back yard on the day he/she is admitted to the Bar, but law school graduation and passing a Bar Examination DOES NOT indicate an expertise -- but it does indicate the individual has the foundational knowledge and the potential to become an expert at some point in the future. I would submit that the same goes for physicians, accountants, architects, etc. I think that the real problem is how these certs. have been marketed. Instead of promising IMMEDIATE big bucks, the certs, should be an entry ticket into this career. Individuals who possess these certs should be respected for the time, effort and interest they have shown in studying for and obtaining a cert. But whether they are PAPER CERTS is truly a
PIX HELP ----SECURITY
We have DNS serve with the conduit below open , however someone used our DNS server to do ftp... conduit permit udp hostx.x.1.42 eq domain any I am relatively new to PIX. I have concerns regarding our security and am in the process of learning an cleaning some conduits in my config. According to PIX documentation , the commands below offer additional security,. Is it a good idea to enable these commands, and would they provide extra level of security, whats the tradeoff of enablilng them ? no sysopt security fragguard no sysopt connection enforcesubnet no sysopt connection timewait sysopt connection tcpmss 1460 Are ther other commands that could help to tweak up security on a general... Mo Durrani IST WYSE\EDS phone:408-473 1246 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Allen May - Rich man 2 cents at a time (was Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply)
My nickname on boards (back in the BBS days) wasn't MegaBite for nothin' ;) - Original Message - From: "EA Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Allen May" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: Allen May - Rich man 2 cents at a time (was Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Senior Citizen Reply) I think you're up to 2 bits now, Allen...2 more bits and you'll be up to a nibble. ;-) At 08:04 AM 4/3/01, Allen May wrote: Hey...isn't this the thread that went on for days a couple weeks ago and I cashed in on all the 2 cents and the 2 bobs? I'm gonna be rich! [snip] That's my 2 cents. Greg Macaulay, CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Attorney/Law Professor (Retired) Lifetime member of AARP Oldest CCNP/CCDP in existence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The.Rock Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX - Reply to The Rock oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your 8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim". _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
B J wrote: The CCNA is far harder than any test one will encounter with a major in Education, Anthropology, History, Business Management, etc. Do you really think the dumbest CCNA isn't more knowledgable in many areas, one being math, than your daughters first grade teacher? Why do so many people feel that comparing apples to oranges will strengthen their point? Anthropology has nothing to do with networking, and knowlege of one has nothing to do with knowlege of the other. Personally, I've found anthropology to be incredibly useful in understanding the corporate environments in which I do networking. Indeed, I'm about to be running an internal seminar program at Nortel that draws a good deal, in its instructional design, to tribal rituals. "Come to me, grasshoppers, and learn the Secrets of the Inner BGP Circles that aren't in RFC 1771." And Its been a while, but I don't really remember any math problems on my CCNA test, unless you consider subnetting to be a real mathmatical challenge. At the CCNA level, no. At more and more advanced level, statistical, and indeed abstract algebra (as in error-correcting codes) becomes useful. Any deep understanding of routing protocols will involve formalism in data structures, automata theory, etc. Bottom line: Remember this: As long as HR employees are hired because they are great looking babes, they will have no clue on talent. Certs give them something tangible and simple that they can understand. Degrees do the same. Oh, I see now. You are a schmuck. Hmmm...all too much of _my_ HR experience has been with Catbert clones. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Port Information
Try http://www.pawnee.com/well-known-ports.htm ""Steiven Poh (Jaring)"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 010b01c0bc5b$f79bc2c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:010b01c0bc5b$f79bc2c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anybody send me all the port number information? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution
an easier way to find the problem is to debug ospf flooding and/or lsa generation. Then you do not have to go through the pain of waiting for the link to be quiet for each interface as you bring it up. Julie Ann At 02:31 PM 3/27/2001 -0600, Alan Basinger wrote: Your correct Z filter the bri subnet from redistribution into IGRP and your LSA's should not continue to bring the link up. Alan -Original Message- From: Mask Of Zorro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution Redistribution brings it up. What happens is, the link is brought up and OSPF forms an adjacency. Then, since it is a demand circuit, periodic LSA's are squelched and OSPF routes associated with those LSA's do not age out of the routing table. Then, the layer 2 portion of the link drops, since there is no interesting traffic. Once the link drops, whatever protocol you are redistributing into OSPF sees it's link drop, and changes its tables in accordance with the topology change. This change gets redistributed into OSPF, and OSPF floods LSA's out announcing the change. These LSA's bring up the link while OSPF converges. Then, after a while, things are stable again, and the link drops - and guess what? That's right! The whole thing starts again... There are ways to stop it. Z From: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "George Zhang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:50:52 -0600 I also had the same problem a few days ago. Here is how I fixed it: 1. Isolate the problem by shutting down all other interfaces besides the interfaces between the two related routers; 2. Disable all other routing protocols (non-OSPF ones); 3. Turn off IGRP redistribution to OSPF; 3. Now, verify the ISDN demand circuit. It should be quiet now. 4. Now, start unshut the interfaces you have shut down one by one and verify that the ISDN demand circuit. It should might come up briefly but it should go down and keep quiet after some interfaces are unshut. If the ISDN line keep dialing, you should know which interface is causing the problem. 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you unshut all interfaces, turn on your other router protocols such as IGRN, RIP, etc one by one. Again, verify the IDN line after each change as above. 5. If the ISDN line is still quiet after you enable all other routing protocols, turn on your redistribution one by one. Again verify ISDN line along the way. If you follow these steps, you should be able to pin down what is causing your ISDN line to stay up. Hope it helps. George Zhang "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/27/01 03:33PM It may keep the connection open though even after there is no intresting traffic. Don - Original Message - From: Alan Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; perez claude-vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patrick Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Leah Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay Chandradas' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Boone' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution CDP may work at layer 2 but if the line is brought up because of web traffic CDP packets would then traverse the line consume a small amount of bandwidth. I have installed a few ISDN DDR VPN's without turning off CDP and never had and issue but also didn't think about the bandwidth consumption at the time. Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Larson Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:00 AM To: perez claude-vincent; Ya Wen; Patrick Murphy; Leah Lynch; 'Jay Chandradas'; 'Bob Boone'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: bri flapping with demand cirquit/igrp redistribution It may not, I have just always disabled it on dialer links as a habit. It makes sense that it shouldn't since the dialer-list defines layer 3 traffic only. You could always put an access-list on the dialer interface permitting all traffic with the log statement to see exactly what is trying to get accross the line. It will output to the console if you are consoled in. That may help you to see what is bringing the line up.
Re: PIX IOS upgrade
Hi There have been a lot posts in the Cisco news groups about people having ICMP problems with 5.3 code. Several stating that TAC has recommended a down grade to solve the problems. Personally I would not install a 5.3 code at this time. 5.2.x seems to be fine. HTH -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE ""Paul L Holloway"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm upgrading the IOS on a new PIX. What would be the downside of me upgrading to 5.3 without stepping up incrementally and just going directly from 4.4 to 5.3. I don't see anywhere in the Cisco documentation where they advise against this, but I seem to remember several threads here advising to go up one version at a time. Any thoughts?? Paul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
On 03 Apr 2001 10:16:20 -0500, Mark Mahoney wrote: Check out this link before it disappears. It seems that someone has hacked into the M$ kb and placed a funny TID in there. Mark http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp No one hacked microsoft for this. This is a sematic attack and is old news by now. Look at the URL where is the hostname? Not microsoft.com the address is 195.224.253.26. THis was a pretty crappy one at that. The ip address is a little more covert when it is in hex. Shame on you for spreading such a dumb rumor... For more information on semantic attacks look at the Crypto-Gram from OCTOBER: http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0010.html#1 or http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystorysid=2001/2/16/3248/68922 -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ |Douglas F. Elznic| | dfelznic (at) syr.edu | | | | O r g | | e. Anize.org | | z i n | ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless
I am having difficulties getting the BR342 bridges to recognize trunked traffic. I have Catalyst 3500's on either side of a pair of BR342's. The trunks between the Cats come up just fine, but the management interfaces on the wireless bridges are not available. I have tried setting addresses from multiple VLANs, but the bridges just don't recognize their address in this fashion. I have no trouble getting to the management addresses on both the near Cat and the far one, I just can't get to the bridge interfaces. Anybody have any suggestions or done this before and can share some helpful hints? -- --- Rik Guyler _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (no subject)
But you have to admit, the site was funny, wherever it was situated. :-) Heather Buri CSC Technology Services - Houston Phone: (713)-961-8592 Fax:(713)-961-8249 Mobile: Alpha Page: Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd Suite 500 Houston, TX 77056 -Original Message- From: Douglas "F." Elznic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:57 AM To: Mark Mahoney Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (no subject) On 03 Apr 2001 10:16:20 -0500, Mark Mahoney wrote: Check out this link before it disappears. It seems that someone has hacked into the M$ kb and placed a funny TID in there. Mark http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp No one hacked microsoft for this. This is a sematic attack and is old news by now. Look at the URL where is the hostname? Not microsoft.com the address is 195.224.253.26. THis was a pretty crappy one at that. The ip address is a little more covert when it is in hex. Shame on you for spreading such a dumb rumor... For more information on semantic attacks look at the Crypto-Gram from OCTOBER: http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0010.html#1 or http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystorysid=2001/2/16/3248/68922 -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ |Douglas F. Elznic| | dfelznic (at) syr.edu | | | | O r g | | e. Anize.org | | z i n | ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 3600
Folks, Another query The 3600 will need a fast ethernet interface in order to support ISL trunking ?? Many thanks for your help ! Regards, Peter. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2524 with intergrated T1 CSU/DSU
Working on an old 2524 w/T1 CSU/DSU on S0. This CSU/DSU is very different that that for the 2600. I am having trouble following the instruction at this URL http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios11/cbook/cinterf c.htm Can anyone share some experience ? Thanks Ruihai Serial0 is down, line protocol is down Hardware is HD64570 with FT1 CSU/DSU _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Upgrading Catalyst 5000 IOS--get repeated TFTP errors. Please help!
--I am trying to upgrade the IOS on a Catalyst 5000 Cisco Switch to the latest 6.1 series. I am using a CATALYST II SUPERVISOR MMF. I am trying to upgrade the IOS to 6.1 which is about 4.5 megs or better. but I fear my Flash is too low? Or is it? --Show version says 8192K available,3840K used,4352K avaialable" However shouldnt I be overwriting the 3840 used Flash also?--I keep getting TFTP and switch error messages (shown below) I am confused. Could someone please read through these log files and please help me? FIRST, When I type show version, this is what I get: "System Bootstrap Version: 2.2(2) Hardware Version: 1.0 Model: WS-C5000 Serial #: 006051071 Mod Port Model Serial # Versions --- -- - 1 2 WS-X5506 006051071 Hw : 1.0 Fw : 2.2(2) Fw1: 2.2(1) Sw : 4.4(1) 2 24 WS-X5010 003617325 Hw : 2.4 Fw : 1.1 Sw : 4.4(1) DRAM FLASH NVRAM Module Total Used Free Total Used Free Total Used Free -- --- --- --- --- --- --- - - - 1 16384K 9905K 6479K 8192K 3840K 4352K 256K 107K 149K Uptime is 6 days, 2 hours, 23 minutes SWITCH#2 (enable)" SECOND, This is what I get when I try to run the TFTP command: "SWITCH#2 (enable) copy tftp flash IP address or name of remote host [172.26.100.1]? Name of file to copy from [cat5000-sup3.5-5-6.bin]? Download image file cat5000-sup3.5-5-6.bin is unrecognized! SWITCH#2 (enable)" THIRD: This is the TFTP Error Message: "Tue Apr 03 15:49:33 2001: Failed ( State Error ). Tue Apr 03 15:53:42 2001: Sending 'cat5000-sup3.5-5-6.bin' file to 172.26.100.2 in binary mode # Tue Apr 03 15:53:42 2001: Failed ( State Error )." Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco 1900 dot1q
According to Richard Deal in the Coriolis Switching Exam Cram p157 "... the 1900/2820 only support ISL, not 802.1Q." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco 1900 dot1q Hi Folks ! Just a quick query I have been hoaking around for the last hour and cant seem to find an answer to this. will the 1900 cat support dot1q many thanks for your help ! kind regards, pete. Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX and Raptor
All: Looking for any caveats in establishing VPN tunneling between PIX and Raptor firewall? Any implementation tips using IPSEC or other features. Thanks. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cannot ping switch in a inter-vlan setup??
Hi, I have setup a 1912 switch with 8 vlans. I have 8 pc's with 8 different ip's plugged into the switch along with a 2620. I have an ip of 10.1.1.2 to the switch and a default-gateway of 10.1.1.1. I can ping any computer in any vlan through the 2620 but one strange thing is that I cannot ping the switch from any pc or the router itself no can I ping the switch's ip on the switch itself or the default gateway. The first pc's ip=10.1.1.10 with a gwy of 10.1.1.1 on f0/0.10 on the router. I thought that atleast this pc would be able to ping the switch since they are in the same network but this is not the case. What am I doing wrong? Please advise. Thank you. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco 3600
That is true. You will need FE to setup ISL trunk. Ruihai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Folks, Another query The 3600 will need a fast ethernet interface in order to support ISL trunking ?? Many thanks for your help ! Regards, Peter. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
Greetings Earthlings! To all those who mailed, and all those who did not, I plead caffeine deficiency, which affected my ability to process what I was looking at. In fact, as some may note, the 'to:' field in my post contains mail addresses. Folks who are not on the list! I was so daft as to not realize that I was posting to the group as opposed to dispatching email. Which was my intent! Without the requisite 60 oz of Coffee/day, my cranial orb becomes sluggish. Or maybe I juts need glasses. :) MM Mark Mahoney wrote: Check out this link before it disappears. It seems that someone has hacked into the M$ kb and placed a funny TID in there. Mark http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.MarkDMahoney.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.MarkDMahoney.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless
- Original Message - From: "Rik" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am having difficulties getting the BR342 bridges to recognize trunked traffic. I have Catalyst 3500's on either side of a pair of BR342's. The trunks between the Cats come up just fine, but the management interfaces on the wireless bridges are not available. I have tried setting addresses from multiple VLANs, but the bridges just don't recognize their address in this fashion. I have no trouble getting to the management addresses on both the near Cat and the far one, I just can't get to the bridge interfaces. Anybody have any suggestions or done this before and can share some helpful hints? Perhaps using 802.1q trunks and putting the addresses within the native vlan will get around the issue. David David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
Isn't semantic that virus company? Norton semantic is his name. The owner, I mean... I was blinded by swamp gas...Yeh...Thats it! ;~) MM "Douglas F. Elznic" wrote: On 03 Apr 2001 10:16:20 -0500, Mark Mahoney wrote: Check out this link before it disappears. It seems that someone has hacked into the M$ kb and placed a funny TID in there. Mark http://www.microsoft.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Q209355.asp No one hacked microsoft for this. This is a sematic attack and is old news by now. Look at the URL where is the hostname? Not microsoft.com the address is 195.224.253.26. THis was a pretty crappy one at that. The ip address is a little more covert when it is in hex. Shame on you for spreading such a dumb rumor... For more information on semantic attacks look at the Crypto-Gram from OCTOBER: http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0010.html#1 or http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystorysid=2001/2/16/3248/68922 -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ |Douglas F. Elznic| | dfelznic (at) syr.edu | | | | O r g | | e. Anize.org | | z i n | ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.MarkDMahoney.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
