splitting a PRI connection [7:4359]

2001-05-14 Thread stephen

HI,

One of my friends clients place they have taken a PRI connection (E1) having
30 channels  they have given each channel to each dept. for net. access.
There are 30 depts. in the organisation.

I understand they must have used a de multiplexer in splitting the channel.
Can anyone help me how they must have done it.
they are using a 3600 series router in the office.

Regards
rstephenp




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Does CAT1900 switch have the set-base OS? [7:4360]

2001-05-14 Thread Thomas

Hi All - I am looking for a CAT1900 or CAT2900 for my lab.  I wonder if
which CAT1900 or CAT2900 models can run the set-base OS like the CAT 6509
switch?  Thanks!




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Re: IP extended access list question [7:4321]

2001-05-14 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Hi Hans,

the echo reply is the answer packet to the echo request. so with the part
of configuration that you gave, the echo request goes 'out' of interface
e0. There is no outgoing access-list set, so the echo request will reach
its destination. the echo reply comes from 171.21.50.2 and goes back to
171.21.10.2. although an incoming access list is set on e0, the packet 
does not match line 2 of your accesslist because the source of the 
echo reply is 171.21.50.2. 

hth

Reinhold

On Sun, 13 May 2001, Hans Stout wrote:

 Hello colleagues,
 
 I am trying to block all IP traffic from host A to host B except for ICMP 
 echo replies. This is the access list I hve configured:
 
 access-list 100 permit icmp host 171.21.10.2 host 171.21.50.2 echo log
 access-list 100 permit icmp host 171.21.10.2 host 171.21.50.2 echo-reply
log
 access-list 100 deny ip host 171.21.10.2 host 171.21.50.2
 
 I then apply this access list as inbound to Ethernet0:
 
 Ethernet0
 ip address 171.21.50.1
 ip access-group 100 in
 
 However, when I try to ping 171.21.50.2 from 171.21.10.2, I get a no
reply,
 and the access list logs matches under the deny entry. I wonder if I am 
 missing something or might have the syntax wrong. Do you have any ideas ?
 Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 Regards,
 
 Hans
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Re: How to install CiscoSecure ACS on Solaris for Intel? [7:4362]

2001-05-14 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Hi RF,

as i took the MCNS training, we also discussed CiscoSecureACS for Unix and 
NT. The Coursebook says strictly that only the sparc architecture of 
solaris is supported. Thats waht i found on the Cisco Documentation CD:

http://
www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_soft/cs_unx/instl23.htm#xtocid158004

CiscoSecure ACS Server Requirements
The Cisco Secure ACS (and its optional backup server) requires the following
hardware and software:

UltraSPARC or compatible workstation
To support CiscoSecure ACS without the licensed Distributed Session Manager
option:
Ultra 1 with a processor speed of 167 MHz or faster
---Minimum 200 MHz if the Oracle or Sybase RDBMS is installed on the same
system.
To support CiscoSecure ACS with the licensed Distributed Session Manager
option:
Ultra 1 or faster 
---Ultra 10 or faster if the Oracle or Sybase RDBMS is installed on the same
system
Minimum 256 MB of swap space
128 MB of RAM
256 MB of RAM if the Oracle or Sybase RDBMS is installed on the same system
Minimum 256 MB of free disk space (if you are using the supplied SQLAnywhere
database)
Minimum 2 GB disk space if the Oracle or Sybase RDBMS is installed on the
same system
CD-ROM drive

Greetings

Reinhold


On Sun, 13 May 2001, RF wrote:

 Anybody here ever try to install CiscoSecure ACS on Solaris on an Intel
box?
 I asked a related question before, when apparently the installation
couldn't
 find java for some reason, even though java was on the system (and in the
 PATH and all that).  I solved this problem by just manually creating a soft
 link to the java executable at the place where the Ciscosecure looked for
 java (although I still don't understand why the installation script doesn't
 have instructions to create the link itself).
 
 But now it still is unable to create the database files.  Apparently, there
 is some error where a particular script uses an input file, but the input
 file is pure jibberish, so the script fails.  And because the script fails,
 the database tables are never created, and because of that, the ACS cannot
 start.  I will post the exact error message if anybody is interested.
 
 
 But now I am wondering if it is possible to do this at all.  If there are
 all these of problems in installing it, maybe it was just not meant to be.
 Maybe running the Solaris version of ACS requires a SPARC-based workstation
 (a Sparcstation or an Ultra),  and it is just not possible for Solaris ACS
 to be on an Intel box (so I would have to use the Windows ACS).  I thought
 that the operating system would provide an abstraction layer for
 applications, so that the ACS wouldn't care what hardware Solaris was
 running on, just as long as it is running.  But then again, I ain't no
 Solaris superstar, so maybe I'm wrong.
 
 So what I want to know is - has anybody ever successfully installed Solaris
 on a x86 PC and then successfully installed the CiscoSecure ACS (with the
 default SQLanywhere database)?  If so, did you get the kinds of errors that
 I'm getting and how did you resolve them?  If you did not get these errors,
 then why do you think I'm getting errors?  Or if you did not use
 SQLanywhere, and used, say, Oracle, could you provide some simple
 instructions as to how to go about installing Oracle so that ACS can use it
 (I have the Oracle CD's, but I'm no Oracle guru)?
 
 Thanx in advance




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Re: 1750 [7:4343]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Order the 1750-4v as it's the cheapest route to get the DSPs and DRAM/Flash
upgrades you need.  You still need FXO/FXS modules depending on your config.

#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C1700 Software (C1700-NOSV3Y-M), Version 12.0(5)XQ1, EARLY
DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOF
TWARE (fc1)
TAC:Home:SW:IOS:Specials for info
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 23-Nov-99 11:07 by sharpd
Image text-base: 0x80008088, data-base: 0x8083597C

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.0(3)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
ROM: C1700 Software (C1700-NOSV3Y-M), Version 12.0(5)XQ1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE SOFTWAR
E (fc1)

BFGC-SJC-1750-1 uptime is 2 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on at 01:04:01 PDT Tue Apr 10 2001
System restarted at 12:12:50 PDT Mon Apr 30 2001
System image file is flash:c1700-nosv3y-mz.120-5.XQ1.bin

cisco 1750 (MPC860) processor (revision 0x601) with 24576K/8192K bytes of
memory.
Processor board ID JAD04420C04 (2869480179), with hardware revision 
M860 processor: part number 0, mask 32
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
1 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
1 Serial network interface(s)
2 Voice FXS interface(s)
WIC T1-DSU
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)

Here is a replacement order for a DOA batch of 1750s that were
manafuctured with defects (won't work with FXS modules without screeching
when they go off-hook):
Parts Ordered:
 CISCO1750; Qty: 2; Desc: CISCO1750, 10/100 MODULAR ROUTER W/1VIC,
 2WIC/VIC SLOTS,CISC
 MEM1700-8MFC=; Qty: 2; Desc: MEM1700-8MFC=, CISCO 1700 8MB
 MINI-FLASH CARD
 MEM1700-16D=; Qty: 2; Desc: MEM1700-16D=, CISCO 1700 16MB DRAM DIMM
 PVDM-8=; Qty: 2; Desc: PVDM-8=, 8-CHANNEL PACKET VOICE/FAX DSP MODULE
 SWF; Qty: 2; Desc: SWF, SOFTWARE

Beware of getting a 1750 with the following as it will have this same DOA
defect (nice of Cisco not to recall these that were shipped as a 1750-4v,
which means the customer *will* be using them with voice at some point):
From TAC:
Jason, the suspect chassis are between datecodes 0435 through 0448, and as
a result the SLO chassis would also fall between this range. I've only seen
cases where the defect is catastrophic however, and as you have seen in the
other two chassis you can't even get a clear dialtone. That being said, it
is possible that the SLO chassis has a low-severity form of this defect.

The nice TAC engineer immediately opened an RMA to get them replaced.  Cisco
RMA people pulled in some crap saying we have to go back to our Tire 2
supplier (TechData) to get them RMA'd, but they're past 90 days, so good
f'ing luck.  I don't know where this is exactly, but last I heard it was
still bouncing around (the customer is probably going to get stuck buying
SmartNET's for all of them to get their new DOA routers replaced so they
actually work with VoIP).

Nice crappy service on this one, but TAC held up their end, just not Cisco
RMA.  Details to follow when I find out what happens.  Sorry, this whole
thing really has me PO'd at Cisco.  Basically, don't sell a router without a
SmartNET contract as there is no Lemon Law for them ;-p

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 distinguish the router is DSP enabled just with sh ver?

 TIA

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sh ip eigrp topology confusion [7:4363]

2001-05-14 Thread Dennis R

I'm chewing on my BSCN studies, any help appreciated.

BSCN book (Paquet/Teare, p. 254, last paragraph), The topology table 
contains all destinations advertised by the neighboring routers. The show ip 
eigrp topology all-links command displays all the IP entries in the topology 
table. The show ip eigrp topology command displays only the successor and 
feasible successor for IP routes.

Real world production environment output from these commands (names and such 
altered to protect the guilty). I've chosen 1 network from the output for 
the example.

ReallyBigHost#sh ip ei top
IP-EIGRP Topology Table for AS(15)/ID(10.15.8.51)

Codes: P - Passive, A - Active, U - Update, Q - Query, R - Reply,
   r - Reply status

P 10.1.55.60/30, 1 successors, FD is 6026496
 via 10.5.8.52 (6026496/6023936), FastEthernet0/0


BigHost1#sh ip ei top all
P 10.1.55.60/30, 1 successors, FD is 6026496, serno 4232337
 via 10.5.8.52 (6026496/6023936), FastEthernet0/0
 via 10.2.54.66 (161536000/161024000), Serial2/2:0.245

 via 10.2.55.2 (41536000/41024000), Serial2/2:0.323

 via 10.2.54.78 (41536000/41024000), Serial2/2:0.248
 via 10.2.54.70 (21536000/21024000), Serial2/2:0.246

Codes: P - Passive, A - Active, U - Update, Q - Query, R - Reply,
   r - Reply status

My questions: Where are the feasible successors in the output from sh ip ei 
top? There is one very obvious FS candidate in the topology all listing -- 
(21536000/21024000) on Serial2/2:0.246 is a better metric than anything but 
fa0/0. Is this an error in the Cisco book, or am I missing something? Is 
there some way to get the router to display the FS? Or doesn't this router 
think there IS an FS (and if so, why not)?

Related bonus question: How on earth is THIS possible? (Again, real world 
output):

ReallyBigHost#sh ip ei top all
P 10.1.37.44/30, 1 successors, FD is 4357120, serno 3900620
 via 10.1.36.2 (4357120/3845120), Serial2/2:0.28
 via 10.1.36.2 (4382720/3870720), Serial2/2:0.28

How can there be two different metrics for the same destination via the same 
neighbor if the route is passive? The K values in this network are set to 
the defaults, so it's not a matter of the load or reliability changing and 
rejiggering the metric ... and even in that case, why would the router keep 
both metrics instead of the newest one?

Puzzled and such,
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Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4365]

2001-05-14 Thread RF

Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as the
network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you can do
isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?

Thanx




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3600 IOS on 3620? [7:4366]

2001-05-14 Thread Fanglo

Hi,

My friend said that 3640 IOS can work on 3620. Is it true?

TIA
Fanglo




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Re: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]

2001-05-14 Thread stephen

Hi,
I feel if u have a switch which supports VLAN, you can keep the NIC's of the
2 nodes which were supposed to be connected by a cross over cable could be
kept in a separate VLAN thus u could avoid the broadcast.
I feel if i have a product supporting VLAN that would be a better
alternative

regards
rstephenp


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 Breaking things is bad.  I pull my suggestion and have bookmarked the page
 for future reference.
 TTFN,
 Bill

 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Crawford
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 5/10/2001 9:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]

 A word of caution here.  Per the documentation I pulled down figuring
 this
 out,
 the crossover cable solution causes load balancing not to work.  See
 Article
 ID: Q242248 - http: // support. microsoft. com/ support/ kb /
 articles/Q242/2/48.ASP  (NOTE: spaces inserted to avoid URL striping).

 HTH

 Darren

 p.s. I have a Word document with several of these articles which I will
 send
 to
 anyone who's interested.

 At 09:49 PM 05/09/2001 -0800, Bill Pearch wrote:
 One possible solution to this issue that was practiced early in the
 wolfpack
 development was to have a nic in each cluster node that was connected
 via
 cross over cable to the other node.  By having a pair of NIC's
 dedicated to
 heartbeat we can avoid having the heartbeat flood the network.
 TTFN,
 Bill in Anchorage
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]
 
 
 I ran into this same problem at my current client.  Apparently this is
 a
 necessary evil in a NT clustered environment for load balancing and
 fault
 tolerancy.  There are two 1,514 byte packets sent every second by
 default.
 One
 to the MAC of the NIC and the other to the multicast address.  The size
 of
 these packets cannot be adjusted but the interval of how often they
 occur
 can.   The heartbeat can be set between 100 and 1 milliseconds
 (default
 is
 1000).  The time period before the device is determined dead can be set
 between
 5 and 100 (default is 5).
 
 We did the following:
 
 Registry items alivestatus (aka AliveMsgPeriod) and aliveperiod (aka
 AliveMsgTolerance) were changed to 1 and 9 respectively.  What this
 meant on
 the network was that there were only 6 pairs of heartbeats per minute
 instead
 of 60.
 
 This should be adjusted based on the organizations tolerance of a
 failure.
 
 HTH
 
 Darren
 
 At 12:47 AM 05/09/2001 -0400, Andy Prima wrote:
 Dear all,
 I need help on protocol type 0x886F. It seems that this kind of
 Ethernet
 Broadcast is circling around my network and I do not have a clue what
 it
 really is.
 
 TIA
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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4369]

2001-05-14 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi

Network side BRI have different L1 framing. You can do it with 3600,
3810
or 2600, but you need a special VIC card, see here:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/c36p_ds.htm
Take care, this is for voice connections not for data.

Regards!

RF wrote:
 
 Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as the
 network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you can
do
 isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
 
 Thanx
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Re: 3600 IOS on 3620? [7:4366]

2001-05-14 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi

Nope The processor is different(a little), and the PCI and TDM 
buses are different, so you need the specific IOS for the 3620

Regards!

Fanglo wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My friend said that 3640 IOS can work on 3620. Is it true?
 
 TIA
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Re: BGP routes? [7:4305]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Depends on the size of the ISPs that you're connecting to, but I was able to
do the following with my 2621:

Take UUNET + Customer routes, and then take Sprint + 1 AS (not necessarily
Sprint + Customers) and I sit at 2.1mb free Processor RAM and 4.4mb free I/O
RAM.  I check it weekly and we'll be replacing it with a 2651+128mb RAM soon
(but it never drops below 2mb Processor and 4mb I/O).  Right now it looks
like:
ISC-Tur-2600-2#sh mem
HeadTotal(b) Used(b) Free(b)   Lowest(b)
Largest(b)
Processor   80BEE0E44830799646169572 2138424 2001744
1621648
  I/O3A0 6291456 1816760 4474696 4362768
4474652

ISC-Tur-2600-2#sh ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier 63.107.123.244, local AS number 18506
BGP table version is 764596, main routing table version 764596
78760 network entries and 88043 paths using 10809268 bytes of memory
13337 BGP path attribute entries using 800220 bytes of memory
10812 BGP AS-PATH entries using 265108 bytes of memory
0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
2 BGP filter-list cache entries using 24 bytes of memory
BGP activity 2826921/4544350 prefixes, 4665044/4576998 paths, scan interval
15 secs

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
State/PfxRcd
63.107.123.250  4 18506 3372305 3089882   76459600 6w2d45237
157.130.196.245 4   701 1729948   64816   76459600 5w6d42803

The biggest thing I can say is filter your routes from your ISPs very
closely.  The UUNET tech was cluelessly sending me full routes when I
requested UUNET-only routes when we started and crashing our 2621+64mb until
I started to filter UUNET+2AS (more than UUNET-only, but not enough to crash
the router before we turned on Sprint).

Sprint actually connects to a 3640+128mb which takes full routes and then
only forwards on Sprint+1AS to the 2621 (which also filters incoming).

Just for reference, here is the 3640:
ISC-Mod-3640#sh mem
HeadTotal(b) Used(b) Free(b)   Lowest(b)
Largest(b)
Processor   621E322078761440596085481915289217030276
17819908
  I/O6D019922944 18970641802588017925576
18019356

ISC-Mod-3640#sh ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier 63.172.195.48, local AS number 18506
BGP table version is 11757459, main routing table version 11757459
100240 network entries and 141392 paths using 14813392 bytes of memory
23604 BGP path attribute entries using 1417260 bytes of memory
19771 BGP AS-PATH entries using 504240 bytes of memory
0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
12714 BGP filter-list cache entries using 152568 bytes of memory
BGP activity 1258312/2982465 prefixes, 4091113/3949721 paths, scan interval
15 secs

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
State/PfxRcd
63.107.123.249  4 18506 3090184 3711050 1175745900 6w2d41229
144.232.206.65  4  1239 3097325   64905 1175740200 6w2d   100156

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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4371]

2001-05-14 Thread RF

Yeah, that's pretty good.  Is there also something that can handle the
network side of BRI for data?







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 Hi

 Network side BRI have different L1 framing. You can do it with 3600,
 3810
 or 2600, but you need a special VIC card, see here:
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/c36p_ds.htm
 Take care, this is for voice connections not for data.

 Regards!

 RF wrote:
 
  Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as
the
  network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you
can
 do
  isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
 
  Thanx
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Re: Cisco exam real question! [7:4306]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

The subject is Cisco exam real question.  Any questions/answers
specifically found on the tests are not to be discussed or disclosed to
others, otherwise you break the NDA you sign before taking the test.
Breaking NDA can potentially cost you your Cisco certs and at the furthest
extreme have legal action taken against you.  Even without that, it's not
welcome at groupstudy.com if it skirts breaking NDA.

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 I don't know why you can think out such selfish explaination for my aim
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 posting question here.

 I just want to let others share and discuss questions here.

 You please don't post message here. you will waste other's time
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  Please don't post questions such as this on this list.  This is a clear
  no-no.  I don't know what you expect the group to do with these.  Tell
you
  the answers?
 
 
 
 
 
  At 03:23 AM 05/13/2001 -0400, Victim wrote:
  ciex1.2.1
  
  Which three statements about cisco's implementation of IP routing are
 true
choose three)?
  a. routers can learn next hops dynamicaly
  b. ip routing is disabled by default on cisco routers.
  c. routers can learn next hops through static routers.
  d. entering ip route in global onfiguration mode enables ip routing
  e. routers learn next hops by receiving periodic updates from other
 routers
  
  ciex1.3.2
  which two statements about cisco routers are true? (choose two)
  a. never connect a router with a U interface into an NT1
  b. always connect a rotuer with a U interface into an NT1
  c. if you see a connect labeled BRI, your router is a TE1
  d. if you see a connector labeled BRI, your rotuer is a TE2
  
  ciex1.2.3
  IPX servers advertise through __ updates
  a. SAP
  b. RIP
  c. NCP
  d. NLCP
  e. IGRP
  f.  NLSP
  
  ciex2.3.2
  Which three statements about flow control using connection-oriented
  protocols are ture? (choose three)
  a. if using TCP, a smaller window size will conserve available
bandwidth.
  b. a TCP host sends a packet with a window size of zero if its receive
  buffers are full and it cannot receive any more data
  c. if a source does not receive an acknowledgment it knows that the
 packets
  should be retransmittted and that the transmission rate should be
slowed
  d. positive acknowledgment requires a recipient to communicate with the
  source, sending back an ack. message when it receives data
  
  
  
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Re: What ISP do you recommend for BGP?? [7:1295]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Well, like I said, it's going to be up to the actual engineer you get.  I'm
sure Sprint has its share of newbie engineers, just like any ISP.  I'm sure
UUNET has a bunch of great engineers as well.  I've also had experience with
a clueless Sprint engineer (just turning up a simple T1 where they were
providing the router for the customer, and couldn't troubleshoot the T1).

I do have some good news.  Once such clueless engineer I've ranted and raved
about employed at my same employer is moving along.  Tears of joy.  (Yes,
I'm a cynical b*stard, but I work hard and don't like it when I see someone
surfing eBay half the day and playing MP3s loud enough so that I'm having a
hard time handling tech support calls).  Anyone curious on salary info in my
area (Modesto): Going rate for an MCSE2k with decent experience: 45-60K.
Found that out with a great guy I wanted to fill this new opening with, but
he also had an obscenely-high offer of $75K (well, he's a green MCSE2k with
a lot of network experience, but not at the enterprise level).  I told him
to take the $75K even though I'd rather have him working with me, oh well.

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 i had the oposite experience with UUNET.  they handed me a BGP config that
 worked great from the getgo.  i did have a problem with one half of my
class
 c not failing over correctly in the event that a route went down.  we
worked
 through that in about 10 mins though.  someone had mistyped my prefix.  i
 have had only one other problem, and that was my bad.  my access list
wasn't
 allowing BGP updates/keepalives between UUNET and my router.  =\

 since then, the network has been reliable, and the support, not that i
call
 on them often, has been great.

 anyway, just thought i should temper mr. roysdon's bad experience with a
 good one of my own.

 james

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 Subject: Re: What ISP do you recommend for BGP?? [7:1295]


 It's all going to depend on the luck of the draw as to the engineer you
get,
 I think, at least to some degree (same is true of Cisco TAC, and they're
the
 top as far as support goes, IMHO).  Mind you I've only turned up two BGP
 connections, but Sprint was totally on the ball and great to work with.
 WorldCom/UUNET was incompetent and I had to walk him through a number for
 things like getting a default route advertised from them, what
customer-only
 routes mean, etc. (lucky for me I did them after Sprint).  Check
Boardwatch
 for ISP costs and latency comparisons.  WorldCom is directly connected to
 nearly 50% of prefixes advertised.  I believe Sprint has like 30%.

 http://www.boardwatch.com/

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  Does anyone have a recommendation or horror story for best ISP to work
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  for implementing BGP?
  I am thinking of picking between Worldcom, ATT and Qwest.
  Thanks
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Re: splitting a PRI connection [7:4359]

2001-05-14 Thread Reinhold Fischer

hi,

could it be that it is a channelized E1 ? You can use the 30 B-Channels
separately. Here is how it looks on one of our routers:

Excerpt from 'show version':

cisco 4500 (R4K) processor (revision B) with 32768K/4096K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01838185
R4600 processor, Implementation 32, Revision 2.0 
G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0.
Channelized E1, Version 1.0.  HI,
 
 One of my friends clients place they have taken a PRI connection (E1)
having
 30 channels  they have given each channel to each dept. for net. access.
 There are 30 depts. in the organisation.
 
 I understand they must have used a de multiplexer in splitting the channel.
 Can anyone help me how they must have done it.
 they are using a 3600 series router in the office.
 
 Regards
 rstephenp
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Re: What is demarc zone? [7:3576]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

It all depends, of course.  I always request to have the demarc extended for
my router installs.  If there are problems with layer 1, I swap my patch
cable and CSU/DSU or WIC, and if it persists (or I should say when it
persists), I tell the customer it's a telco problem and call the telco on
the way to my car.

As discussed before, the demarc is the point of where responsibility goes
from one to the other, but it's usually associated with the PSTN or Public
Telephone Company.  The problem with extending wiring beyond the demarc is
that if there is any doubt or question, the telco will try and blame it on
your wiring.  If the wiring, jack, etc., is all before the demarc, they have
to fix it (even if it was originally the customer's wiring).

From the way I understand it, demarcation goes back to deregulation.  I'm
curious if the same term is used outside the US?  Basically, before
deregulation the telco did everything, including the inside telco wiring and
even the phones.  With deregulation, they started demarcation to establish
the point to which the telco was responsible and where the customer was.

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 This demarc for a data line is usually a closet or server room and not the
 MPOE (minimum point of entry).  Usually the telcos call the MPOE the
demarc
 for voice lines.

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  Hi,
 
  I am still new to Cisco networking. While touring a network facility,
one
 of
  the network engineer's showed a telecom closet and said it is the
demarc
  zone.
  I heard DMZ a lot (but I could swear I heard demarc zone too).
 
  What is demarc zone in networking?
 
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Re: splitting a PRI connection [7:4359]

2001-05-14 Thread stephen

Its incomplete buddy

regards
rstephenp
Reinhold Fischer  wrote in message
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 hi,

 could it be that it is a channelized E1 ? You can use the 30 B-Channels
 separately. Here is how it looks on one of our routers:

 Excerpt from 'show version':

 cisco 4500 (R4K) processor (revision B) with 32768K/4096K bytes of memory.
 Processor board ID 01838185
 R4600 processor, Implementation 32, Revision 2.0
 G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0.
 Channelized E1, Version 1.0.  HI,
 
  One of my friends clients place they have taken a PRI connection (E1)
 having
  30 channels  they have given each channel to each dept. for net.
access.
  There are 30 depts. in the organisation.
 
  I understand they must have used a de multiplexer in splitting the
channel.
  Can anyone help me how they must have done it.
  they are using a 3600 series router in the office.
 
  Regards
  rstephenp
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EIGRP/DUAL/Topology Table Relationship [7:4377]

2001-05-14 Thread Dennis R

More confusion on my part, help also appreciated.

BSCN (Paquet/Teare), p. 254: When the router dynamically discovers a new 
neighbor, it sends an update about the routes that it knows to its new 
neighbor and receives the same table from the new neighbor. *The topology 
table contains all destinations advertised by the neighboring routers.* The 
show ip eigrp topology all-links command displays all the IP entries in the 
topology table. The show ip eigrp topology command displays only the 
successor and feasible successor for IP routes.

http://www.cisco.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/fund/ith2nd/it2436.htm#xtocid224866 
: The topology table contains all destinations advertised by neighboring 
routers. The protocol-dependent modules populate the table, and the table is 
acted on by the DUAL finite-state machine. Each entry in the topology table 
includes the destination address and a list of neighbors that have 
advertised the destination.

My summary: 1. Neighbors send the destinations and metrics from their 
routing tables, minus anything that would violate split horizon.

2. Information from neighbors goes into topology table.

3. Using all the raw material in the topology table, DUAL calculates the 
metrics for all the possible routes for a given destination, decides what 
the successor(s) and feasible successor(s) are, and puts the successor(s) in 
the routing table.

BSCN Book, p. 256: EIGRP selects primary and backup routes and injects 
those routes into the topology table (up to 6 per destination). Aren't they 
already there? What, exactly does injects mean? I could understand it 
marking these routes as primary and backup, i.e. successor and feasible 
successor. But, injects?

BSCN Book, p. 258: DUAL is the finite-state machine that selects which 
information will be stored ***in the topology table***. As such, DUAL 
embodies the decision process for all route computations. It tracks all 
routes advertised by all neighbors. DUAL uses the distance information, 
known as a metric, to select an efficient, loop-free path to each 
destination and inserts that choice in the routing table. Shouldn't the 
part between the *** read, ... in the *routing* table?

My confusion boils down to 3 different ways of asking the same question:

1) Is the topology table a complete list of information received from the 
EIGRP neighbors, as the Cisco web link says, or is it a subset of this 
information chosen by DUAL, as the BSCN book seems to say?

2) Does DUAL inject successor and feasible successor information INTO the 
topology table, or simply mark/choose routes that are already there after it 
calculates its metrics for them?

3) Does DUAL decide which information will be stored in the topology 
table, or not?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4378]

2001-05-14 Thread Tony Medeiros

I here this feature is available in 12.2  Not sure which platforms but I am
pretty sure the 2600 and 3600 will support it.

Tony M.
#6172
- Original Message -
From: RF 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4365]


 Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as the
 network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you can
do
 isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?

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Does 1720/1750 Support ISL/802.1q Trunking [7:4380]

2001-05-14 Thread Rashid Lohiya

Guys,

Maybe you could clear up a little confusion for me.

I bought a Cisco 1720 because it has a 10/100 Ethernet interface built in.

Will this support ISL/1q?

Thanks

Rashid




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Re: Does CAT1900 switch have the set-base OS? [7:4360]

2001-05-14 Thread Tony Medeiros

The cat 1900 is either menu drivin or it uses the switch IOS  Find an old
2900 like a 2901 for the set/show/clear type of OS.  Any cat2900 that is non
XL will do the trick.
Tony M.
#6172

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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: Does CAT1900 switch have the set-base OS? [7:4360]


 Hi All - I am looking for a CAT1900 or CAT2900 for my lab.  I wonder if
 which CAT1900 or CAT2900 models can run the set-base OS like the CAT 6509
 switch?  Thanks!
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Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab [7:3568]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Fred Danson  wrote in message
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 Memo from Steve Skinner of PricewaterhouseCoopers
 
  Start of message text 
 

 Howard,Pris,Chuck,Thomas,MR roysdonthese guys and more don`t SEEM to
 need the IE...maybe they have made the right choice..???

 I agree with you 100% that these guys don't need be to CCIE's. They have
 proven themselves through their many years of experience. But how many
 people out there have the experience that they have? Not many! The CCIE
 would seperate you from the rest of the crowd and prove that you really do
 know what you're talking about.


I feel honored to even be in the list with Howard and Priscilla, but no
doubt it just has to do with my extensive posting at times.

I would definately agree with this last statement, however.  Even if you're
the top in a pool of talent, but someone else has their CCIE and you don't,
what does that say?  To me Cert tests are where you have the opportunity to
prove you're not just all talk, and not just passing, but passing with high
marks and on the first time.  Not that I'm in a position to hire, just
recommend, but if I was looking for an MCSE or CCNP/DP, I'd ask for a
print-out of their transcripts (showing pass/fail records), if not the
original test results listing scores.

Slightly off-topic for a Cisco list, but anyone know of anyone doing the
RHCE (RedHat Certified Engineer)?  Requires a minimum 4 day crash-course
followed by a one-day hands-on lab exam (they also offer the 4 days in a 3
week course for those more green).  I told my boss I want this after my CCIE
last summer, and he just laughed at me and said sure ;-p   Of course, I had
only my MCSE and CCNA at the time.

%$^(@%$!  I need to take the CVOICE tomorrow if I want the CCNP Voice Access
Specialization before it's retired.  Bets that I can pass it tomorrow w/no
prep or study-cramming?  Of course, that's all provided I can find time in
the day to even go take the thing.  (We turned up a customer's 2nd remote
AVVID site in San Jose and I've got to field any potential problems and get
two ActiveFax problems finalized).  I think I'll cram for the test and wait
around for problem calls until 10am and if it's clear, schedule at test.

Of, got word last week that we now have our Partner Security Specialization
status last week.  Yippee *sarcasm*, now we've got 55 points in Cisco's
Partner point-game with our IP Telephony Specialization back in February.
At this point, we're just two CCIEs shy of Silver status, but then isn't
everyone?

I still don't get why Cisco doesn't have a step between Premier and Silver.
Two CCNA/DAs for Premier vs. Two CCNA/DAs, Two CCNP/DPs, Two CCIEs to Silver
is such a big step.  Why not a step between with two CCNA/DAs and two
CCNP/DPs and more specialization points?
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/partner_programs/certification/comparis
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Re: splitting a PRI connection [7:4359]

2001-05-14 Thread Reinhold Fischer

Next try ... Have to take care on characters that appear also in html-mail
...


hi,

could it be that it is a channelized E1 ? You can use the 30 B-Channels
separately. Here is how it looks on one of our routers:

Excerpt from 'show version':

cisco 4500 (R4K) processor (revision B) with 32768K/4096K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01838185
R4600 processor, Implementation 32, Revision 2.0 
G.703/E1 software, Version 1.0.
Channelized E1, Version 1.0.  HI,
 
 One of my friends clients place they have taken a PRI connection (E1)
having
 30 channels  they have given each channel to each dept. for net. access.
 There are 30 depts. in the organisation.
 
 I understand they must have used a de multiplexer in splitting the channel.
 Can anyone help me how they must have done it.
 they are using a 3600 series router in the office.
 
 Regards
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Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab [7:3568]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Speaking of the Lab.  Anyone notice when it went up to $1250?  Not that I'm
ready to schedule it, but I've always heard it was $1K.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/exam_preparation/lab.html#11

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 No one ever said anything about BS'ing the lab ??
 Once again, an e-mail passed around so many times, it
 becomes an old wives tale.


 --- Jim Gillen  wrote:
  Agree, in spades
 
 
 
 
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   William E. Grudged  9/05/01 9:17:06 
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  Caroll's right, you can't BS that lab!
 
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  Subject: Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab
  [7:3568]
 
 
  At 01:27 PM 5/8/01 -0400, Chris Haller wrote:
  The school I am currently attending for CCIE
  written/lab is pumping out paper CCIE's faster
  than
  I can say .. help, the written ccie is almost as
  worthless as the mcse
  
  Juniper ??  I hear their test is twice as hard as
  CCIE.  Mabey you should attempt that one 
 
  But by definition, there is no paper CCIE.  You have
  no CCIE certification
  if you only pass the qualifier (written exam).  I do
  not know if you can
  even consider it half way there.  It is just a
  prelude of things to come
  and to weed out people.  I have not taken the
  written personally, so not
  sure if it is bookwormable.  I am assuming it is
  since anything written /
  multiple choice ends up being that way in the end.
 
  The Juniper written lab or the juniper practical lab
  is twice as
  hard?If it is more emphasis on ISIS or
  Juniper-isms, it is a
  matter of spending some time to apply your basic
  networking knowledge to
  understand new protocols (ISIS isn't concentrated on
  as heavily in CCIE
  exams if I remember correctly) and learning a
  particular company's
  isms.  Or working with the company's particular
  hardware.  (ouch, good
  luck finding those guys on ebay for a good price).
  Should not be too hard
  for good networking guys (written part), exposure to
  the hardcore equipment
  might be hard, but also makes you wonder if the
  market space is really that
  big for heavy duty core work.
 
 
 
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Re: Password Reset on PIX? [7:3627]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

You can download this same util from TAC w/o calling.  Each version of PIX
software requires a different file (4.4 vs 5.0 vs 5.1 vs 5.2 vs 5.3, etc.).

Simple public search on CCO for pix password recover comes up with:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/34.shtml

I'm actually a bit concerned that the files for creaking a PIX is available
for pub access, but like they say, physical security is half the battle!

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 Is it just telnet? Can you use the console port? If not, you need to call
 the TAC and have them send you a utility which will reset a PIX password.
No
 other way to do it that I know.

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  Something went wrong with our Pix last nigt.. We have 2 , and it didnt
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  over to the secondary we got it them working by doing a reset . however
I
  cannot  telnet or log into the PIX. ?any ideas
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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4386]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

What exactly are you looking to do?  Connect two BRIs in a lab?  You want an
ISDN Simulator to do that.  Otherwise, you want to know someone at a local
telco to get you access to their switch ;-p

Actually, I bet I could pull it off with one of our local telcos that I do
networking work for (they're the telco for a few towns with  wrote in message
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 Yeah, that's pretty good.  Is there also something that can handle the
 network side of BRI for data?







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  Hi
 
  Network side BRI have different L1 framing. You can do it with 3600,
  3810
  or 2600, but you need a special VIC card, see here:
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/c36p_ds.htm
  Take care, this is for voice connections not for data.
 
  Regards!
 
  RF wrote:
  
   Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as
 the
   network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you
 can
  do
   isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
  
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Re: Does 1720/1750 Support ISL/802.1q Trunking [7:4380]

2001-05-14 Thread Vincent Chong

No.

Further information, check with cisco web site.

HTH
Vincent Chong

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 Guys,

 Maybe you could clear up a little confusion for me.

 I bought a Cisco 1720 because it has a 10/100 Ethernet interface built in.

 Will this support ISL/1q?

 Thanks

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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4387]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

What interface, BRI?  I did some searches through 12.2 references and do see
such a thing.  It was my understanding that an ISDN switch isn't just as
simple as flipping DTE/DCE.

Can you take a T1 CSU/DSU interface and connect it back to back to another
and run and T1 PRI (I've never tried and need to get some sleep, but
curious).  I'm guessing you could and wondering what it would take to
connect this to a few BRIs in a lab environment.


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 I here this feature is available in 12.2  Not sure which platforms but I
am
 pretty sure the 2600 and 3600 will support it.

 Tony M.
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 From: RF
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 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:06 AM
 Subject: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4365]


  Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as
the
  network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you
can
 do
  isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
 
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For Marc Quibell [7:4388]

2001-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Survey says... you're a twit.
I'm proud of you.  Go Vietnamese!  I'm taking my lab this November also. 
I hope I will be the second Vietnamese person who will send out such good 
news to the group.
See what the guys said to you? you are a clown, a peice of @!#$, son of a 
bitch, and what do you think you really are? Do you have much experience, 
so what? You don't like people who is preparing to get a cisco cert? It is 
NONE OF YOUR BUSSINESS, you don't like people of other countries,Yankee? 
Then go to hell!Kiss my ass!Damn you!!!




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Juniper Certifications [7:4389]

2001-05-14 Thread Tapas Das




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CCIE Study Partner in San Jose [7:4391]

2001-05-14 Thread Rob Boyd

Hi gang,

I've taken (and failed) the CCIE lab exam once.  I'm scheduled for December
2001.
I'd like to find anyone in the San Jose, CA area (hopefully with a similar
lab date) who
would be interested in putting together a staged attack.  I have a good
collection of
books and scenarios, lots of experience, and some home equipment.

Please let me know.

Thanks!

-Rob




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Feedback on BSCN Exam [7:4392]

2001-05-14 Thread Tariq Bin Azad

Hello Everybody,

I am going for BSCN Exam in the end of this week.
I heard that this is very tough exam and I should concentrate on OSPF, EIGRP
and BGP.

I will appreciate if somebody can send me some feedback about this exam.
If you have some resources (testing software) than please send it to me
(without breaking legal agreement to software manufacturer)

Thanks

Tariq




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ccie study in hartford [7:4393]

2001-05-14 Thread Morabito Joe

Anyone interested in studying with a partner in the Hartford, CT area?

I have a halfway sized lab and am looking to expand.

Thanks.

Joe Morabito

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CVoice [7:4394]

2001-05-14 Thread Edmund Woltynski

Hi Study Folk

Just dropping a line to thank the group for the support and advice that
was given - I knocked off this test successfully this afternoon at the
eleventh hour (May 14 here - the US is still catching up).

A pity it has been relegated to the lapsed category. Just a comment, I
was surprised at how ATM centric the test was. A special thanks to Tim
Medley who put things in perspective (it helped organise my chaos).

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CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]

2001-05-14 Thread Lupi, Guy

Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios?  I
have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to waste my
time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam.  Any help is
appreciated.




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ios 12.2 upgrade errrrrrrr [7:4396]

2001-05-14 Thread RamG

I upgraded the ios to 12.2.  When the router start following error appears.
Any idea what it is?

Trying R2501 (1.1.1.1, 2001)... Open
cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 16384K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01560991, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
TN3270 Emulation software.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

ip kerberos source-interface any - {This is the error Invalid input}
   ^% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
Press RETURN to get started!

Thanks  /  RamG




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RE: What is demarc zone? [7:3576]

2001-05-14 Thread Graham, Darel R.

Hi Everyone,

In response to your inquiry about the Demarc. 

First, the demarc is the point of termination for the LEC (Local
Exchange Carrier).
As far as a 'zone', that term must be a local anomaly. I have been
in the 
telco world for 25 years and have never heard it referred to as a
'zone'.

DMZ is and has been referred to as the demarc too. Although the term
has been 
a little vague, it generally means the place where there is an
electrical separation 
between telco's network and your network. In other words, if telco
needs to come
in and do some work they can separate your network from theirs at
the demarc. 
That is why it is difficult to get telco to admit to problems when
they test 'clean' 
to the demarc. There is the back half of the demarc. in most cases,
that can and 
does cause many a problem. 

Any extended demarc, to get it from the demarc to the router, is
guaranteed for 
30 days after installation. If you have problems, as Jason stated
below, you will
need to ask the LEC to test from the extended demarc too. They will
tell you that
there will be extra charges, and any repairs needed to the extended
demarc will be 
time, materials, and a hourly fee too. 

A LEC is a company like Bell South, Ameritech, Verizon, etc...

Hope this helps,

Darel Graham
  

p.s. Jason - in other countries the LEC owns everything including
the CSU/DSU.
  My counterparts in Amsterdam (they monitor/install
ckts in Europe) 
  say they call it a demarc too.


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It all depends, of course.  I always request to have the demarc extended for
my router installs.  If there are problems with layer 1, I swap my patch
cable and CSU/DSU or WIC, and if it persists (or I should say when it
persists), I tell the customer it's a telco problem and call the telco on
the way to my car.

As discussed before, the demarc is the point of where responsibility goes
from one to the other, but it's usually associated with the PSTN or Public
Telephone Company.  The problem with extending wiring beyond the demarc is
that if there is any doubt or question, the telco will try and blame it on
your wiring.  If the wiring, jack, etc., is all before the demarc, they have
to fix it (even if it was originally the customer's wiring).

From the way I understand it, demarcation goes back to deregulation.  I'm
curious if the same term is used outside the US?  Basically, before
deregulation the telco did everything, including the inside telco wiring and
even the phones.  With deregulation, they started demarcation to establish
the point to which the telco was responsible and where the customer was.

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Sam  wrote in message
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 This demarc for a data line is usually a closet or server room and not the
 MPOE (minimum point of entry).  Usually the telcos call the MPOE the
demarc
 for voice lines.

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  Hi,
 
  I am still new to Cisco networking. While touring a network facility,
one
 of
  the network engineer's showed a telecom closet and said it is the
demarc
  zone.
  I heard DMZ a lot (but I could swear I heard demarc zone too).
 
  What is demarc zone in networking?
 
  Thank you in advance.
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Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Marc-Andre Giroux

2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a show run in the
Junos world and the second I am trying to turn on ICMP debugging in cisco it
would be  debug packet icmp does anyone know how to do this in junos?




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RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Mohammad Tariq

Use show command in juniper which is equivalent to show run and u can use
the monitor command in junos to monitor the ICMP packet.
Thanks and warm regards.

Muhammad Tariq

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2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a show run in the
Junos world and the second I am trying to turn on ICMP debugging in cisco it
would be  debug packet icmp does anyone know how to do this in junos?
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Re: BGP routes? [7:4305]

2001-05-14 Thread andyh

the memory stats in the sh ip bgp summ are a little misleading.  Try a
show proc mem | inc BGP:

 PID TTY  Allocated  FreedHoldingGetbufsRetbufs Process
  74   0  631172512 4098051860   31705348  0  0 BGP Router
  75   0  343694804   15643832  158284041196   19808064 BGP I/O
  76   0  0 1086676808   6796  0  0 BGP Scanner

with a full table you can see that there is around 32MB of RAM used for
around 100k routes.  Thing to watch is whether you are using soft-reconfig,
cef, or other RAM-intensive stuff.  Personally would go for 128MB as a
minimum for a full routing table (am putting 256MB in my new high-end
boxes).

With 64MB you can probably get away with a full table if you're careful, but
it's not going to scale, or last for very much longer.  You're probably
better off getting a default and local routes off each provider, unless you
*really* need a full table, in which case you should go for 128MB RAM.

Filtering routes inbound is all well and god, but you should really use
soft-reconfig so you can mess with you policies live, but this means that
the routes still fill up the table, even if they are not actually entered
into the forwarding table.

hth

Andy

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Subject: BGP routes? [7:4305]


 I have two 2621's, each with 64MB of memory.  I am setting up a BGP
 multihoming config with two ISP's.  Anyone know approximately how many
 routes I can accept with that much memory?
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Re: Passed CCIE Written but NOT doing lab [7:3568]

2001-05-14 Thread Carroll Kong

At 05:37 AM 5/14/01 -0400, Jason Roysdon wrote:
Speaking of the Lab.  Anyone notice when it went up to $1250?  Not that I'm
ready to schedule it, but I've always heard it was $1K.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/exam_preparation/lab.html#11

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Yeah, they jacked that and the written exam price (I think) around the time 
their market went crashing down.  You are right, it was originally 
$1K.  (definitely sure they jacked it up).

The written exam is up to $300, I could have sworn it was about $125 or 
$200 before.  (not sure on this one)



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HSRP Statechage [7:4403]

2001-05-14 Thread Andy Low

Hi,

What could cause a HSRP state change if the router is not down? It's very
difficult to debug since there is no pre-determine time of when this will
happen? There is nothing to do with the recent HSRP DoS for sure :), since I
have implemented the necessary steps to overcome it.


#sh logging | include STATECHANGE:
.May 14 19:00:28: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:28: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:32: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:46: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:00:56: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: FastEthernet4/0/0.1
state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:56: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Standby  - Active
.May 14 19:00:57: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: FastEthernet4/0/0.1
state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:57: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:00:59: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Active   - Speak
.May 14 19:01:01: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:01:07: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: FastEthernet4/0/0.1
state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:01:07: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Speak- Standby
.May 14 19:01:09: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
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RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Marc-Andre Giroux

the run monitor command will let me see the number of packets sent thru the
interfaes but I am trying to debug the icmp packets. As for the show command
thank you

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Use show command in juniper which is equivalent to show run and u can use
the monitor command in junos to monitor the ICMP packet.
Thanks and warm regards.

Muhammad Tariq

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2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a show run in the
Junos world and the second I am trying to turn on ICMP debugging in cisco it
would be  debug packet icmp does anyone know how to do this in junos?
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RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Bosio Stefano

inline

Stefano


 -Original Message-
 From: Marc-Andre Giroux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: lunedl 14 maggio 2001 14.19
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Juniper technical question [7:4398]
 
 
 2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a show run in the
 Junos world 

In user mode UID@SYSNAME show configuration

there isn't in juniper the concept of running config and startup config,
configuration is only one (or at least one uncommitted config)

in configuration mode UID@SYSNAME#show  (the output is relevant on the
portion of the tree you are)

 and the second I am trying to turn on ICMP 
 debugging in cisco it
 would be  debug packet icmp does anyone know how to do this 
 in junos?

In configuration mode look at traceoption command on protocol session, i
don't remember the right flag to set, look in the possible options.
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Re: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Sean Young

show run = show configuration

debug packet icmp = monitor

Good luck

Sean

Juniper makes Cisco looks like child's play

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RE: HSRP Statechage [7:4403]

2001-05-14 Thread Charles Manafa

Check the switch the routers are connected to.

CM

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 14 May 2001 13:58
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: HSRP Statechage [7:4403]
 
 
 Hi,
 
 What could cause a HSRP state change if the router is not 
 down? It's very
 difficult to debug since there is no pre-determine time of 
 when this will
 happen? There is nothing to do with the recent HSRP DoS for 
 sure :), since I
 have implemented the necessary steps to overcome it.
 
 
 #sh logging | include STATECHANGE:
 .May 14 19:00:28: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:28: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:31: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:32: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:41: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:46: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:51: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 148:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.148 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 150:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.150 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:54: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 154:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.154 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:00:56: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: 
 FastEthernet4/0/0.1
 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:56: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Standby  - Active
 .May 14 19:00:57: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: 
 FastEthernet4/0/0.1
 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:57: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:00:59: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Active   - Speak
 .May 14 19:01:01: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 153:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.153 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:01:07: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 1: 
 FastEthernet4/0/0.1
 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:01:07: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 156:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.156 state Speak- Standby
 .May 14 19:01:09: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Standby: 155:
 FastEthernet4/0/0.155 state Speak- Standby
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Re: CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]

2001-05-14 Thread Joe Wong

CCIE lab practice kit.

Lupi, Guy  wrote in message
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 Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios?  I
 have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to waste
my
 time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam.  Any help
is
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Re: CCIE Lab Practice [7:4395]

2001-05-14 Thread Bruce Williams

Joe some people on this list have said the CCIE Lab Practice Kit contains
too many errors. Have you had the same experience?
I just bought the book on the advice of a couple of my friends who strongly
recommended it. That is why I was surprised to hear these complaints.

Bruce
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Joe Wong  wrote in message
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 CCIE lab practice kit.

 Lupi, Guy  wrote in message
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  Does anyone know of a book that has some realistic CCIE lab scenarios?
I
  have a lab with most of the equipment necessary but I don't want to
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  time with lab scenarios that I won't see in the real lab exam.  Any help
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Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS BGP Attribute Corruption [7:4409]

2001-05-14 Thread MIRSKY Carl

Have any of you seen this or run into it?  

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/ios-bgp-attr-corruption-pub.shtml

Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and
I'm pretty sure it'll work ! 
   , 
  /'^ ^'\
 ((o)-(o))
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Sniffer Resources [7:4410]

2001-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Okay all you networking pros out there.  Does anybody know of any good
Network General Sniffer resources?  More specifically if I want to look
up diagnoses such as TTL's, retransmissions, long ack times etc.?

jd




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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4411]

2001-05-14 Thread Tony Medeiros

PRI network side emulation has been available for a while.  I am pretty sure
you need an MFT interface.  I have set this up several times on the NM-HDV
voice modules which have an MFT in them.  The choice of switch types to
emulate is limited though.  You can absolutely to a back to back PRI if you
have the right hardware and feature set.  I have only done it with MFT's
using IP PLUS software and the 6608 T1 blade on the Cat 6509.

BRI's would be a little different since they use a different line coding.  I
have only heard second hand that it can be done and have never tried it.  I
don't know if its just for a p to p type circuit or you can do actual ISDN
switching and switch a call out different interfaces.  That would be cool !!

Tony M.
#6172

- Original Message -
From: Jason Roysdon 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI?
[7:4387]


 What interface, BRI?  I did some searches through 12.2 references and do
see
 such a thing.  It was my understanding that an ISDN switch isn't just as
 simple as flipping DTE/DCE.

 Can you take a T1 CSU/DSU interface and connect it back to back to another
 and run and T1 PRI (I've never tried and need to get some sleep, but
 curious).  I'm guessing you could and wondering what it would take to
 connect this to a few BRIs in a lab environment.


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  I here this feature is available in 12.2  Not sure which platforms but I
 am
  pretty sure the 2600 and 3600 will support it.
 
  Tony M.
  #6172
  - Original Message -
  From: RF
  To:
  Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:06 AM
  Subject: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI?
[7:4365]
 
 
   Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as
 the
   network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you
 can
  do
   isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
  
   Thanx
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Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Steven Wagner

I am currently a network administrator and have been for about 2 years.  I
didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many people have them
and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up and (2) I knew
that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in Cisco.  I figured
that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the work spent getting my MCSE
would prove mostly fruitless.  I realize that having an MCSE is useful if
you happen to
have one, but I don't think that the certification yeilds alot of value if
it requires going out of the way to get it.  I have about
two years worth of experience in setting up and admining NT 4.0 and now Win
2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking concepts like DNS,
TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very limited exposure to
routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a solid
foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone starts where I am
when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA certification.  So I
guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to get myself
decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
appreciated as I
want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up questions, what books
are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider buying to get
started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be invaluable and I thank
you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also welcome.  I do
not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that once you get your
CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  Thanks for the
forthcoming responses.

Steven Wagner




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RE: And this, too, shall pass... [7:4207]

2001-05-14 Thread William E. Gragido

Way to go Rodger!  Congratulations!!!

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Subject: Re: And this, too, shall pass... [7:4207]


heartiest congratulations, Roger

-e-

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To:
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: OT: And this, too, shall pass... [7:4207]


 Hi, all,

 After several attempts (both written and lab exams) and 14 months of
 part-time study, I got number 7364 in San Jose Wednesday, but it wasn't
 without scary moments.

 My advice to the group, besides the usual:

 1.  Read thru the archives and know the answers to the questions asked.  I
 believe it's more helpful than anything else.
 2.  Get a study partner.  Not only you get to learn from each other, but
 when you explain things to others, it helps you think thru things that
 you're not sure of.
 3.  Know where things are, or could be, in the CD.  I had to use the CD a
 lot, but it didn't take much time for me to find things that I had never
 heard of before the exam.

 I also attended ECP1 which was great.  You get to meet with people from
all
 over the country who share the same goal.  Plus, I learned much more
during
 Day 5 (troubleshooting) than anything else.

 My home lab is set up especially for ccbootcamp's lab scenarios.

 Well, good luck to you all and don't even think about giving up!

 -Rog
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Ping bri0 [7:4414]

2001-05-14 Thread Ken Vandenbark

Why would I not be able to ping a bri0? Interface if it says:

BRI0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)

Layer 1 status:
ACTIVE
Layer 2 status:
TEI = 104, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
TEI = 105, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
Spid status:
TEI104, ces = 1, state = 5(init)
spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 valid
TEI105, ces = 2, state = 5(init)
spid1 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 valid

??
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turn off error messages [7:4416]

2001-05-14 Thread Denton, Jason

I have two 2500's and one running IOS 12.1 and the other running 9.3 I keep
getting these messages from both routers.  ERROR connecting to tftp
255.255.255.255 etc...  Any ideas why this is trying to connect to a tftp
every five minutes?  Or is there a way to hide error messages?
 
Jason




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Re: pix overload question [7:4187]

2001-05-14 Thread Jonathan V Hays

Good to know. Thanks, Jason.

-Jonathan

Jason Roysdon wrote:

 Nope, you can use the outside interface to PAT as of 5.2 (perhaps newer):
 pix(config)# global (outside) 1 interface
 outside interface address added to PAT pool
 pix(config)#

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network baselining [7:4417]

2001-05-14 Thread anthony

Does anyone know any good tools that I could use to get a network baseline?
I need to get one and not sure what tools and guidlines to use.

Thanks in advance for your help

Anthony




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How work in large environment? [7:4420]

2001-05-14 Thread anthony

I have been in the field now for about 4 years.  I worked my way up from the
bottom as a desktop support tech and for the last year and a half been
working with cisco equipment and alteon equipment in a small environment.  I
have set up a web site, VRRP, HSRP, BGP multihoming, VLANs, VPNs, and PIX
firewalls.  I got my CCNA and have one exam left for CCNP.  How do I make
the jump from a small company to a large company? I understand the concepts
and I am fairly proficient with the lower line of Cisco equipment like 4000
and below switches and 2600 and below routers.
I really want to get a job with a larger company or even and ISP where I can
challenge myself and get the experience to someday get the CCIE.  Any
suggestions are much appreciated.




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Re: network baselining [7:4417]

2001-05-14 Thread Scott Lokey

Concord Network Health is a great (if not expensive) for this.
Scott

On Mon, 14 May 2001 11:39:03 -0400, anthony wrote:

  Does anyone know any good tools that I could use to get a network
baseline?
  I need to get one and not sure what tools and guidlines to use.
  
  Thanks in advance for your help
  
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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4419]

2001-05-14 Thread Javier Contreras

Hi
No AFAIK, I have never tried such a configuration

Regards

RF wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's pretty good.  Is there also something that can handle the
 network side of BRI for data?
 
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  Network side BRI have different L1 framing. You can do it with 3600,
  3810
  or 2600, but you need a special VIC card, see here:
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/3600/prodlit/c36p_ds.htm
  Take care, this is for voice connections not for data.
 
  Regards!
 
  RF wrote:
  
   Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act as
 the
   network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS, you
 can
  do
   isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
  
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RE: Juniper technical question [7:4398]

2001-05-14 Thread Mohammad Tariq

Try it, may be this can help u out.

To trace ICMP protocol traffic, you can specify options in the global
traceoptions statement at the [edit routing-options] hierarchy level, and
you can specify ICMP-specific options by including the traceoptions
statement at the [edit protocols router-discovery] hierarchy level:
 [edit protocols router-discovery]
 traceoptions

 file name
 ;
 flag flag  ;
 }

You can specify the following ICMP-specific flags in the ICMP  traceoptions
statement:
* error--Trace error packets.
* info--Trace information packets.
* routerdiscovery--Trace all ICMP packets.
* redirect--Trace redirect packets.
Example: Trace ICMP Protocol Traffic
Trace only unusual or abnormal operations to routing-log, and trace router
discovery state transitions to icmp-log:
 [edit}
 routing-options {
 traceoptions {
 file routing-log;
 }
 }
 protocols {
 router-discovery

 traceoptions {
 file icmp-log;
 flag state;
 }
 }
 }



Thanks and warm regards.

Muhammad Tariq

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the run monitor command will let me see the number of packets sent thru the
interfaes but I am trying to debug the icmp packets. As for the show command
thank you

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Use show command in juniper which is equivalent to show run and u can use
the monitor command in junos to monitor the ICMP packet.
Thanks and warm regards.

Muhammad Tariq

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2 questions the first is what is the equivalent of a show run in the
Junos world and the second I am trying to turn on ICMP debugging in cisco it
would be  debug packet icmp does anyone know how to do this in junos?
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Re: network baselining [7:4417]

2001-05-14 Thread Dom Stocqueler

Try MRTG or Cricket  - http://cricket.sourceforge.net/


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Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Wigle

It's interesting how often we hear about the coveted CCNA and how the MCSE
is devalued.

It sounds like you're still at the beginning of your IT career and that's
not meant as a slur - we all started out someplace and a lot of us came from
the server world.

But you have to compare apples to apples.  CCNA is still an one exam cert
sorta like the MCP.  It is the beginning of the Cisco cert journey.

Having said that, I think that MCSE is way over CCNA for difficulty level
(there are seven exams) but you have to again consider that on one hand
we're talking about servers and the services they provide. and on
the other - routers/switches that connect them.

I'm studying W2K stuff right now, I have MCSE for 3.51/4.0 and my Microsoft
exams go back to Windows 3.1- and I'm surprised to see what I think is CCNA
type material.  This because W2K can do RIP V1, RIP V2 and OSPF.  The
Network Services exam also gets into IP subnetting, DNS, DHCP and plenty of
IPSec stuff, L2F and certificates.

In my mind the two certs go together - however, it seems the bulk of your
experience is with Microsoft and I would probably consider doing what I know
best - get the MCSE and use the money$ I can earn from that to assault the
Cisco certs.

However, it has been lamented that the CCNP/CCDP are not understood so CCNA
probably does look good - but to people who know, they know it is the bottom
of the Cisco ladder.

MCSE is what Microsoft calls a Premier MCP and is one of their top certs.

CCNA could only devalue MCSE if you get hired into a telelcom position,
otherwise salary surveys have indicated that the CCNA enhances the MCSE.

Another one of those personal choice type of things.  I found it very
difficult to break into the router world and in between the great network
design jobs I get, I usually end up managing Microsoft networks.

The CCNA is one exam, a hard working person can pass that exam with about a
month of studying from any of several good books out there.  If your job
market can employ a CCNA with a fresh cert but no networking experience
then go for it.

Otherwise get the MCSE and use it to leverage your Cisco studies.

my .02 Canadian cents

Kevin Wigle
walks both sides of the fence
CCDP/CCNP/MCSE/CBE/CBI


- Original Message -
From: Steven Wagner 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


 I am currently a network administrator and have been for about 2 years.  I
 didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many people have
them
 and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up and (2) I knew
 that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in Cisco.  I figured
 that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the work spent getting my MCSE
 would prove mostly fruitless.  I realize that having an MCSE is useful if
 you happen to
 have one, but I don't think that the certification yeilds alot of value if
 it requires going out of the way to get it.  I have about
 two years worth of experience in setting up and admining NT 4.0 and now
Win
 2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking concepts like DNS,
 TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very limited exposure to
 routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a solid
 foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone starts where I
am
 when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA certification.  So I
 guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to get myself
 decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
 appreciated as I
 want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up questions, what
books
 are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider buying to get
 started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be invaluable and I thank
 you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also welcome.  I
do
 not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that once you get
your
 CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  Thanks for the
 forthcoming responses.

 Steven Wagner
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RE: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Daniel Cotts

Welcome. A quick response, although a long one is needed.
You have come to the right place i.e. the groupstudy mailing list. Best to
lurk for awhile. Check the archives for many of your questions. The answers
are there. Get to know how to navigate the www.cisco.com site aka CCO (Cisco
Connection Online).
IMHO The best book for CCNA is the Todd Lammle Study Guide. Make sure that
you buy version 2 for CCNA 2.0
It's great to have routers on which to practice. Three would be ideal for
CCNA. A good source is eBay. There are others who sell used equipment. Look
for Brad Ellis on this list. I'd buy in this order the following routers:
2503, 2513, 2509, 2523. That gets you Ethernet, Token Ring, ISDN BRI S/T,
sync serial, and sync/async serial interfaces. Additional gear is required
to make the TR and ISDN interoperate. You'll want some back-to-back serial
cables for your lab - qty four for the above lab. Several sources are: Bob
Lowery @  [EMAIL PROTECTED] , www.pacificcable.com , http://www.symmic.com
(which also sells women's clothing and heavy construction equipment - go
figure.) You'll also need some ethernet transceivers. I buy Transition brand
from DataComm Warehouse. There may be less expensive ones elsewhere. Take
time to study every day even if for only 15 min. Become a networker - not a
test taker.
Keep in mind that networks carry traffic. The more that you know about the
generators of traffic (read wintel boxes and others) the more valuable you
are. Good luck!


 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Wagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]
 
 
 I am currently a network administrator and have been for 
 about 2 years.  I
 didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many 
 people have them
 and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up 
 and (2) I knew
 that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in 
 Cisco.  I figured
 that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the work spent 
 getting my MCSE
 would prove mostly fruitless.  I realize that having an MCSE 
 is useful if
 you happen to
 have one, but I don't think that the certification yeilds 
 alot of value if
 it requires going out of the way to get it.  I have about
 two years worth of experience in setting up and admining NT 
 4.0 and now Win
 2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking 
 concepts like DNS,
 TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very 
 limited exposure to
 routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to 
 have a solid
 foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone 
 starts where I am
 when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA 
 certification.  So I
 guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to 
 get myself
 decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
 appreciated as I
 want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up 
 questions, what books
 are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider 
 buying to get
 started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be 
 invaluable and I thank
 you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also 
 welcome.  I do
 not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that 
 once you get your
 CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  
 Thanks for the
 forthcoming responses.
 
 Steven Wagner
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Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Carroll Kong

At 11:13 AM 5/14/01 -0400, Steven Wagner wrote:
2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking concepts like DNS,
TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very limited exposure to

Do you really understand TCP/IP?  It is fairly complicated and many people 
easily say they understand it, but you need to really know it inside 
out.  (Sorry if you do know it well, just it's a big gotcha for new guys).

CIDR, Subnetting against any bit boundary, (Does w.x.y.z/28 mean anything 
to you?  Which ips are network address and the broadcast?  How many valid 
hosts can you have?) TCP flow control mechanisms, differences between UDP, 
TCP, and RAW packets (basically using their own protocol as opposed to tcp 
or udp), multicasting.  Understanding how TCP functions, aka three way 
handshake, functionality of all the different flags (SYN, ACK, FIN, PUSH, 
URG), ip fragmentation, and quite a bit more.  Understanding the OSI model 
helps a lot too.  If the stuff I mentioned is pretty easy for you to 
understand, you probably have a good handle on it.  If not, sorry to say, 
you probably do not have a good handle on it and failure to understand 
those mentioned before is going to bite you in the butt hard for the higher 
end certifications like the CCIE.  To get up to speed on it, a good book on 
it is

TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. 1 by Stevens.

Of course that is the icing on the cake.  Routing protocols in themselves 
will add more issues to learn and worry about.  I believe for the CCNA you 
only need to understand RIP and IGRP.

routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a solid
foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone starts where I am
when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA certification.  So I
guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to get myself
decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
appreciated as I

The CCNA is the entry level certification in the Cisco world.  It is 
generally about basic network concepts and how to configure a Cisco  router 
and switch.  Do not take my word for it though, the requirements are listed 
on the webpage.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-507.html

In the end, you really have to understand IP, since that is the primary 
glue of the entire Cisco empire.  Double that with routing protocol 
behavior and Layer 2 behavior.  (much easier said than done).

want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up questions, what books
are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider buying to get
started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be invaluable and I thank
you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also welcome.  I do
not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that once you get your
CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  Thanks for the
forthcoming responses.

Steven Wagner

I have nothing against people with certifications.  I just care if they 
really understand their material, with or without the paper backing them 
up.  Not sure if you can really equate the CCNA against the MCSE, it is 
somewhat like apples and oranges.  One is geared towards routing and 
switching, the other is geared towards systems administration of Windows 
machines.  They know a bit about each other (understanding some host 
behavior is always a good thing that network admins should know, and MCSEs 
understanding their own transport/network protocol behavior is always a 
good thing to know), but for the most part, I do not see them competing 
against the same space, hence, why would the MCSE lose more power if they 
are placed hand in hand with each other?



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Re: How work in large environment? [7:4420]

2001-05-14 Thread Carroll Kong

At 11:49 AM 5/14/01 -0400, anthony wrote:
I have been in the field now for about 4 years.  I worked my way up from the
bottom as a desktop support tech and for the last year and a half been
working with cisco equipment and alteon equipment in a small environment.  I
have set up a web site, VRRP, HSRP, BGP multihoming, VLANs, VPNs, and PIX
firewalls.  I got my CCNA and have one exam left for CCNP.  How do I make
the jump from a small company to a large company? I understand the concepts
and I am fairly proficient with the lower line of Cisco equipment like 4000
and below switches and 2600 and below routers.
I really want to get a job with a larger company or even and ISP where I can
challenge myself and get the experience to someday get the CCIE.  Any
suggestions are much appreciated.

In theory, you have enough to handle the CCIE Exams.  The lab equipment is 
fairly baseline (sounds like you touched on a lot of it already for the 
most part).  They suggest 2 years of field experience, and the big ol 1/3 
self-studying, 1/3 training courses, 1/3 real world training.

Big companies are just extrapolations of the small gear.  Sure you got some 
more snags, but I do not see it being any more significant aside from 
potentially more pressure.  Assuming your small network was well designed, 
for the most part, it's extrapolation.  (i.e., setting up a small Rip 
network, ... whew.. big surprise when you go to a big OSPF network, but if 
you setup OSPF from the ground up, should be fairly easy enough to 
extrapolate).



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Omaha CCIE Lab Study Group [7:4428]

2001-05-14 Thread Ed Moss

The Omaha Cisco User Group is putting together a CCIE Lab Study Group in the
Omaha, Nebraska area.
A lab will be available with some 10 routers, Catalyst 5000 switch, and ISDN
Simulator.  (Missing ATM and Token-Ring Switching).

If you are in the area, please contact me.

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Re: How work in large environment? [7:4420]

2001-05-14 Thread simonis

anthony wrote:
 
 I have been in the field now for about 4 years.  I worked my way up from
the
 bottom as a desktop support tech and for the last year and a half been
 working with cisco equipment and alteon equipment in a small environment. 
I
 have set up a web site, VRRP, HSRP, BGP multihoming, VLANs, VPNs, and PIX
 firewalls.  I got my CCNA and have one exam left for CCNP.  How do I make
 the jump from a small company to a large company? I understand the concepts
 and I am fairly proficient with the lower line of Cisco equipment like 4000
 and below switches and 2600 and below routers.
 I really want to get a job with a larger company or even and ISP where I
can
 challenge myself and get the experience to someday get the CCIE.  Any
 suggestions are much appreciated.
 


I worked for two large networks, and both of them used such routers
for customer site connections, so there is a market for these skills.

My guess would be to hit Monster/Dice/Headhunter, etc and aim for
the stars.  I wouldn't think you'd have a problem getting a gig, esp.
once you complete the CCNP and can show good, real world experience.


Best of luck and good hunting.




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RE: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread William E. Gragido

Kevin,

I saw those CBE/CBI certs you tried sneaking in there, were you in the
Marine Corps?  Cause thats the only time that I have ever seen anyone with
those certs.

Cheers,

Will Gragido

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Kevin Wigle
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


It's interesting how often we hear about the coveted CCNA and how the MCSE
is devalued.

It sounds like you're still at the beginning of your IT career and that's
not meant as a slur - we all started out someplace and a lot of us came from
the server world.

But you have to compare apples to apples.  CCNA is still an one exam cert
sorta like the MCP.  It is the beginning of the Cisco cert journey.

Having said that, I think that MCSE is way over CCNA for difficulty level
(there are seven exams) but you have to again consider that on one hand
we're talking about servers and the services they provide. and on
the other - routers/switches that connect them.

I'm studying W2K stuff right now, I have MCSE for 3.51/4.0 and my Microsoft
exams go back to Windows 3.1- and I'm surprised to see what I think is CCNA
type material.  This because W2K can do RIP V1, RIP V2 and OSPF.  The
Network Services exam also gets into IP subnetting, DNS, DHCP and plenty of
IPSec stuff, L2F and certificates.

In my mind the two certs go together - however, it seems the bulk of your
experience is with Microsoft and I would probably consider doing what I know
best - get the MCSE and use the money$ I can earn from that to assault the
Cisco certs.

However, it has been lamented that the CCNP/CCDP are not understood so CCNA
probably does look good - but to people who know, they know it is the bottom
of the Cisco ladder.

MCSE is what Microsoft calls a Premier MCP and is one of their top certs.

CCNA could only devalue MCSE if you get hired into a telelcom position,
otherwise salary surveys have indicated that the CCNA enhances the MCSE.

Another one of those personal choice type of things.  I found it very
difficult to break into the router world and in between the great network
design jobs I get, I usually end up managing Microsoft networks.

The CCNA is one exam, a hard working person can pass that exam with about a
month of studying from any of several good books out there.  If your job
market can employ a CCNA with a fresh cert but no networking experience
then go for it.

Otherwise get the MCSE and use it to leverage your Cisco studies.

my .02 Canadian cents

Kevin Wigle
walks both sides of the fence
CCDP/CCNP/MCSE/CBE/CBI


- Original Message -
From: Steven Wagner
To:
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:13 AM
Subject: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


 I am currently a network administrator and have been for about 2 years.  I
 didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many people have
them
 and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up and (2) I knew
 that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in Cisco.  I figured
 that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the work spent getting my MCSE
 would prove mostly fruitless.  I realize that having an MCSE is useful if
 you happen to
 have one, but I don't think that the certification yeilds alot of value if
 it requires going out of the way to get it.  I have about
 two years worth of experience in setting up and admining NT 4.0 and now
Win
 2000 servers.  I have a decent knowledge of networking concepts like DNS,
 TCP/IP, and the like.  The problem is that I have very limited exposure to
 routers, switches and all the juicy stuff you need to know to have a solid
 foot in Cisco technology.  I am sure that almost everyone starts where I
am
 when they begin to want to work on that coveted CCNA certification.  So I
 guess my question is this...where do I realistically start to get myself
 decent knowledge of the material?  Step by step ideas would be most
 appreciated as I
 want to take this as seriously as I can.  As follow up questions, what
books
 are best to get to learn?  What hardware should I consider buying to get
 started on the studies?  Any help I can get will be invaluable and I thank
 you in advance.  Any opinions on my MCSE evaluation are also welcome.  I
do
 not mean to minimize the value of MCSE, I just think that once you get
your
 CCNA, your MCSE looses alot of its power on your resume.  Thanks for the
 forthcoming responses.

 Steven Wagner
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Re: network baselining [7:4417]

2001-05-14 Thread Darren Crawford

Try Lucent's Vital Suite (VS).  It's much more intuitive than Concord
(doesn't
require a week long class just for configuring and running reports).  Concord
is priced per interface (big routers, and switches require many elements to
monitor the whole device).  VS is priced per device (big routers and switches
require one license each.  All the ports, interfaces, sub-interfaces, etc.
are
known as resources of that particular device).  Custom reports, performance
monitoring, capacity planning, etc.  You can monitor the users experience too
using Vital Agent.

Check out the demos at:  http:// www.ins.com / software/ vitalsuite/ demos/
index.asp(NOTE: spaces added to eliminate URL stripping)

Darren

At 11:39 AM 05/14/2001 -0400, anthony wrote:
Does anyone know any good tools that I could use to get a network baseline?
I need to get one and not sure what tools and guidlines to use.

Thanks in advance for your help

Anthony
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Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]

2001-05-14 Thread Richie, Nathan

I want to connect 2 remote sites to a corporate site with Frame-relay links
and the corporate site to the Internet with a Frame-relay link.  My question
is this:  Do I need anything from the carrier (or does the carrier need to
configure anything) to utilize sub-interfaces?  

Thanks,

Nathan




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Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Wigle

nah. but did 22 years in the Canadian Military.

Actually, up here in our nation's capital there a quite a few departments
that still have Banyan servers on line.

However, they're just about all planning the migration to some M$ NOS so
having CBE is still useful for probably the next year or so - especially
while also holding MCSE. The CBI is probably worthless though - not much
call for certified Banyan education.

So in about a year I'll shorten up the signature line somewhat...
:-)
(maybe replace it with something bigger..)

Kevin Wigle


- Original Message -
From: William E. Gragido 
To: 'Kevin Wigle' ; 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


 Kevin,

 I saw those CBE/CBI certs you tried sneaking in there, were you in the
 Marine Corps?  Cause thats the only time that I have ever seen anyone with
 those certs.

 Cheers,

 Will Gragido




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Frame Relay Problem [7:4435]

2001-05-14 Thread robert alldread

Hey,

I have read through the archives and found information close to what I am
needing, but not exactly.

Here is the question...

I have (3) 3600 series routers connected by Frame-relay links.  router#1 is
the main, router#2 and router#3 hang off of the main in a hub and spoke
config.  I have a DHCP server behind router#1 that all subnets use for
address's.  I am running EIGRP.

Router#2 and router#3 have ip helper-address statements for the DHCP
server.  Router#2 can ping the DHCP server and its own serial interface and
get DHCP addresses, but router#3 can't ping the DHCP server or its own
serial interface, or get DHCP address's.  Traffic passes fine, LMI is
correct, and PVC's are setup correctly.  Both Router#2 and Router#3 have the
exact same config(beside network numbers, ip address's, and DLCI's).

What would cause a router not to be able to ping it own serial interface??? 
show ip int s0 says (up,up) and LMI are increasing every 10 seconds..

Please helpcisco TAC can't even solve this one...

I am not a member of groupstudy (yet), so please respond to
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OT: My lab is for sale [7:4433]

2001-05-14 Thread Wang, Roger




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Anyone used SNORT [7:4436]

2001-05-14 Thread Roberts, Timothy

Has anyone used SNORT for IDS purposes?  Any reviews?


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Re: ios 12.2 upgrade errrrrrrr [7:4396]

2001-05-14 Thread Gareth Hinton

Looks like you just have a legacy command hanging around in NVRAM from when
you had the old image in there.
Did you have an IPSEC image before?
Try a Write Mem and reboot.

Regards,

Gaz


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 I upgraded the ios to 12.2.  When the router start following error
appears.
 Any idea what it is?

 Trying R2501 (1.1.1.1, 2001)... Open
 cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision D) with 16384K/2048K bytes of
memory.
 Processor board ID 01560991, with hardware revision 
 Bridging software.
 X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
 SuperLAT software (copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
 TN3270 Emulation software.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
 2 Serial network interface(s)
 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

 ip kerberos source-interface any - {This is the error Invalid input}
^% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
 Press RETURN to get started!

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SMDS Question [7:4437]

2001-05-14 Thread Richie, Nathan

With an SMDS connection to 2 remote sites and to the Internet, all 4 routers
(corporate, remote A, remote B,  ISP router).  Currently all of the SMDS
interfaces are on the same subnet.  Can I create sub-interfaces on the SMDS
interfaces and put the connections between remote sites and the corporate
site on separate networks?  (I am not too familiar with SMDS)

Thanks,

Nathan




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Re: Sniffer Resources [7:4410]

2001-05-14 Thread EA Louie

there are TONS of Sniffer resources out there.  Unfortunately, many of them
cost money because there are training courses to teach exactly what you're
desiring to learn.

Here are a few free (teaser) sites

http://www.decodes.com/index.html
http://www.networkuptime.com/

BTW, you might try issuing a search in your favorite search engine on
Sniffer trace diagnoses or network protocol decodes

More specifically, diagnoses that Sniffer Pro gives are NAI's analysis
(based on years of decoding traces) of the trace decode(s).

What specifically is the concern with the TTL's, retransmissions, long ack
times, etc?  Do you understand what they are and why they happen, and what
the effect is of these diagnoses (if any)?  If that is your concern, then
read Internetworking with TCP/IP volume 1 by Doug Comer.  There's lots of
theory of operation of the TCP/IP stack behind the diagnoses that the Expert
spits out.  The Sniffer help files help out with that theory a little bit
too.

Sniffer Pro sets certain threshholds for the Expert Analysis
interpretations, and sometimes those threshholds are not accurate for your
network.  If you're looking for root cause, you'll have to dig a little
deeper than just the diagnosis that Sniffer gives you, because once the
diagnosis is done, the other 90% of the battle is isolating the problem and
then convincing everyone else that that's where the problem lies based on
YOUR detailed analysis and testing.  And the diagnoses are not necessarily
an indication that there is a problem in the network - sometimes, it's just
a network characteristic that users are obliviously happy with and
non-performance affecting.

...and everyone used to think that Sniffer traces were such an hard thing to
read - I remember back in the old days before they gave the Expert
diagnoses having to decode the conversations - now I've gotten lazy and
started to trust the Expert!  yikes...I'm sounding like an old guy here...
;-)

-e-

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Subject: Sniffer Resources [7:4410]


 Okay all you networking pros out there.  Does anybody know of any good
 Network General Sniffer resources?  More specifically if I want to look
 up diagnoses such as TTL's, retransmissions, long ack times etc.?

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Re: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]

2001-05-14 Thread Darren Crawford

I agree.  In fact I proposed that to the client but they haven't acted on it
yet.  Isolating the heartbeat would be the best of both worlds.

Darren

At 03:10 AM 05/14/2001 -0400, stephen wrote:
Hi,
I feel if u have a switch which supports VLAN, you can keep the NIC's of the
2 nodes which were supposed to be connected by a cross over cable could be
kept in a separate VLAN thus u could avoid the broadcast.
I feel if i have a product supporting VLAN that would be a better
alternative

regards
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 for future reference.
 TTFN,
 Bill

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 5/10/2001 9:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]

 A word of caution here.  Per the documentation I pulled down figuring
 this
 out,
 the crossover cable solution causes load balancing not to work.  See
 Article
 ID: Q242248 - http: // support. microsoft. com/ support/ kb /
 articles/Q242/2/48.ASP  (NOTE: spaces inserted to avoid URL striping).

 HTH

 Darren

 p.s. I have a Word document with several of these articles which I will
 send
 to
 anyone who's interested.

 At 09:49 PM 05/09/2001 -0800, Bill Pearch wrote:
 One possible solution to this issue that was practiced early in the
 wolfpack
 development was to have a nic in each cluster node that was connected
 via
 cross over cable to the other node.  By having a pair of NIC's
 dedicated to
 heartbeat we can avoid having the heartbeat flood the network.
 TTFN,
 Bill in Anchorage
 
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 From: Darren Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Protocol Type 0x886F [7:3737]
 
 
 I ran into this same problem at my current client.  Apparently this is
 a
 necessary evil in a NT clustered environment for load balancing and
 fault
 tolerancy.  There are two 1,514 byte packets sent every second by
 default.
 One
 to the MAC of the NIC and the other to the multicast address.  The size
 of
 these packets cannot be adjusted but the interval of how often they
 occur
 can.   The heartbeat can be set between 100 and 1 milliseconds
 (default
 is
 1000).  The time period before the device is determined dead can be set
 between
 5 and 100 (default is 5).
 
 We did the following:
 
 Registry items alivestatus (aka AliveMsgPeriod) and aliveperiod (aka
 AliveMsgTolerance) were changed to 1 and 9 respectively.  What this
 meant on
 the network was that there were only 6 pairs of heartbeats per minute
 instead
 of 60.
 
 This should be adjusted based on the organizations tolerance of a
 failure.
 
 HTH
 
 Darren
 
 At 12:47 AM 05/09/2001 -0400, Andy Prima wrote:
 Dear all,
 I need help on protocol type 0x886F. It seems that this kind of
 Ethernet
 Broadcast is circling around my network and I do not have a clue what
 it
 really is.
 
 TIA
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RE: How work in large environment? [7:4420]How work in large environment? [7:4420]

2001-05-14 Thread Hartnell, George


Don't forget the public sector entities.  Metropolitan, campus and
government networks can offer some great exposure.  

The pay, on the other hand.

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Re: turn off error messages [7:4416]

2001-05-14 Thread Kevin Wigle

Jason,

look at the config.. probably near the top is something like:

service config

At the globabl config prompt type: no service config  exit and save

That should do it.

Kevin Wigle

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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:33 AM
Subject: turn off error messages [7:4416]


 I have two 2500's and one running IOS 12.1 and the other running 9.3 I
keep
 getting these messages from both routers.  ERROR connecting to tftp
 255.255.255.255 etc...  Any ideas why this is trying to connect to a tftp
 every five minutes?  Or is there a way to hide error messages?

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Re: Frame Relay Problem [7:4435]

2001-05-14 Thread Ken Vandenbark

R,

Are you using inverse arp or maps statements for your dlci to ip mappings?
If you are using mappings you will need to configure a map statement as the
one to the hub but map it to the local ip of the router. Use caution if on
production network.
For the problem with DHCP try traceroute and see where it dies.
hth
kv

- Original Message -
From: robert alldread 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:00 AM
Subject: Frame Relay Problem [7:4435]


 Hey,

 I have read through the archives and found information close to what I am
 needing, but not exactly.

 Here is the question...

 I have (3) 3600 series routers connected by Frame-relay links.  router#1
is
 the main, router#2 and router#3 hang off of the main in a hub and spoke
 config.  I have a DHCP server behind router#1 that all subnets use for
 address's.  I am running EIGRP.

 Router#2 and router#3 have ip helper-address statements for the DHCP
 server.  Router#2 can ping the DHCP server and its own serial interface
and
 get DHCP addresses, but router#3 can't ping the DHCP server or its own
 serial interface, or get DHCP address's.  Traffic passes fine, LMI is
 correct, and PVC's are setup correctly.  Both Router#2 and Router#3 have
the
 exact same config(beside network numbers, ip address's, and DLCI's).

 What would cause a router not to be able to ping it own serial
interface???
 show ip int s0 says (up,up) and LMI are increasing every 10 seconds..

 Please helpcisco TAC can't even solve this one...

 I am not a member of groupstudy (yet), so please respond to
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Re: Anyone used SNORT [7:4436]

2001-05-14 Thread simonis

Roberts, Timothy wrote:
 
 Has anyone used SNORT for IDS purposes?  Any reviews?
 

You'll find a whole lot of SNORT users on the SNORT mailing
list.  Just don't go asking them Cisco questions...




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Re: HSRP addressing [7:4354]

2001-05-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:26 AM 5/14/01, Stephen Bird wrote:
I have a 'lack of IP address' available.

The real interface address' and the HSRP Virtual address' do they need to be
in the same subnet?

The important thing is that the virtual address must be in the same subnet 
as the end stations that will use the address as their default gateway.

Theoretically, I guess the HSRP routers' actual interface addresses could 
be in a different subnet, but Cisco doesn't support that. Cisco's 
assumption is that you are migrating from a network where the interface 
addresses were the default gateways. I can't think of any actual problem it 
would cause to put these addresses in a different subnet once you've 
adopted HSRP, but it seems like a bad idea from a design and documentation 
point of view. I think you would get a config error if you tried it anyway.

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Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI? [7:4446]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Yeah, in thinking about it more, I've used WVIC-2MFT-T1-DI module in an
HM-HDV to talk ISDN QSIG to a PBX.  Of course that's voice though...

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Tony Medeiros  wrote in message
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 PRI network side emulation has been available for a while.  I am pretty
sure
 you need an MFT interface.  I have set this up several times on the NM-HDV
 voice modules which have an MFT in them.  The choice of switch types to
 emulate is limited though.  You can absolutely to a back to back PRI if
you
 have the right hardware and feature set.  I have only done it with MFT's
 using IP PLUS software and the 6608 T1 blade on the Cat 6509.

 BRI's would be a little different since they use a different line coding.
I
 have only heard second hand that it can be done and have never tried it.
I
 don't know if its just for a p to p type circuit or you can do actual ISDN
 switching and switch a call out different interfaces.  That would be cool
!!

 Tony M.
 #6172

 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Roysdon
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI?
 [7:4387]


  What interface, BRI?  I did some searches through 12.2 references and do
 see
  such a thing.  It was my understanding that an ISDN switch isn't just as
  simple as flipping DTE/DCE.
 
  Can you take a T1 CSU/DSU interface and connect it back to back to
another
  and run and T1 PRI (I've never tried and need to get some sleep, but
  curious).  I'm guessing you could and wondering what it would take to
  connect this to a few BRIs in a lab environment.
 
 
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   I here this feature is available in 12.2  Not sure which platforms but
I
  am
   pretty sure the 2600 and 3600 will support it.
  
   Tony M.
   #6172
   - Original Message -
   From: RF
   To:
   Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:06 AM
   Subject: Is there any router that can be the network-side of BRI?
 [7:4365]
  
  
Does anybody know of any router or router module/blade that can act
as
  the
network (telco) side of ISDN BRI?  I know that in the latest IOS,
you
  can
   do
isdn protocol-emulate network for PRI, but what about BRI?
   
Thanx
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OSPF routing table explanation [7:4448]

2001-05-14 Thread Ed Dombrowski

Below is a routing table from a scenario i am working on. It is for OSPF
over NBMA in Point-to-Point mode over subinterfaces. It is probably an easy
explanation but something i would like to be clear on. My hub location is
the 2521 which is where this table is from. I have three routers connected
to it VIA subinterfaces running through a 2523 acting as the switch. I used
192.168.1.0 /30 for the wan addresses. On my remote 2501 connected VIA
Serial0.102 i added loopback interface 1  ip address 192.168.1.33 /27 as i
wanted to see how the VLSM address showed up in the route table of the 2521.
The table is as follows.

2521#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is not set

 192.168.1.0/24 is variably subnetted, 4 subnets, 2 masks
O   192.168.1.33/32 [110/1563] via 192.168.1.6, 00:00:17, Serial0.102
C   192.168.1.8/30 is directly connected, Serial0.103
C   192.168.1.12/30 is directly connected, Serial0.104
C   192.168.1.4/30 is directly connected, Serial0.102
2521#

My question is why does the address show up as 192.168.1.33/32 instead of
/27 as i expected. I have dug around through my books and i understand VLSM
but cant find a simple explanation as to why this shows up as a /32 address.
Can anybody explain this to me?

Thanks,

Ed




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Re: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Well said, Kevin.

One thing to consider is that since you can get your MCP in one test (just
like the CCNA), you might as well pick a test that you feel you can knock
out without a problem and just do it.  If nothing else, it'll get you in
test prep mode and get you a quick relevant cert.

I think with how high Microsoft has set the bar with the new MCSE2k tests
it's going to be a much more valued cert after Dec 2001 (when all of us that
haven't upgraded can't officially call ourselves MCSEs).

So, my advice is to get a relevant and current MCP test done, and then go
for the CCNA.  With two good certs down (entree level, true, but still, a
good start), you can then decide if you want to go for the Cisco stuff
first, or Microsoft route.  As much as it may seem fun to chase after Cisco
certs, if you've got access to Microsoft stuff to study and practice on,
that might be the best route to go for your first Engineer cert and then
follow it up with the CCNP.  It's also the most common method (but that
doesn't mean it's the best or wisest, but just what often seems to happen).

I saw a post listing a bunch of CCNA material, so I won't delve into that
(plus I did mine a year ago with the old v1 test).  Which reminds me about
the Cisco cert books:  Be sure the books you get are for the current tests
and not the previous versions.  The older books aren't bad, but they're not
focused on the newer objectives and may leave out material now required on
the new tests (ACRC vs. Routing v2 is a big change, for instance).

Lastly, I'll leave you with a good site for finding cheap books (the only
vendor listed on it that I'd advise against is Half.com, as you never know
how the selling is going to be, and the rating system isn't there out in
front like it is at eBay... my Wife bought a book 2 weeks ago and added
Priority Mail, and still has yet to get notification of shipment and I've
had the same experience 6 mos. ago taking 3 weeks to get a book):
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Kevin Wigle  wrote in message
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 It's interesting how often we hear about the coveted CCNA and how the
MCSE
 is devalued.

 It sounds like you're still at the beginning of your IT career and that's
 not meant as a slur - we all started out someplace and a lot of us came
from
 the server world.

 But you have to compare apples to apples.  CCNA is still an one exam cert
 sorta like the MCP.  It is the beginning of the Cisco cert journey.

 Having said that, I think that MCSE is way over CCNA for difficulty level
 (there are seven exams) but you have to again consider that on one hand
 we're talking about servers and the services they provide. and on
 the other - routers/switches that connect them.

 I'm studying W2K stuff right now, I have MCSE for 3.51/4.0 and my
Microsoft
 exams go back to Windows 3.1- and I'm surprised to see what I think is
CCNA
 type material.  This because W2K can do RIP V1, RIP V2 and OSPF.  The
 Network Services exam also gets into IP subnetting, DNS, DHCP and plenty
of
 IPSec stuff, L2F and certificates.

 In my mind the two certs go together - however, it seems the bulk of your
 experience is with Microsoft and I would probably consider doing what I
know
 best - get the MCSE and use the money$ I can earn from that to assault the
 Cisco certs.

 However, it has been lamented that the CCNP/CCDP are not understood so
CCNA
 probably does look good - but to people who know, they know it is the
bottom
 of the Cisco ladder.

 MCSE is what Microsoft calls a Premier MCP and is one of their top
certs.

 CCNA could only devalue MCSE if you get hired into a telelcom position,
 otherwise salary surveys have indicated that the CCNA enhances the MCSE.

 Another one of those personal choice type of things.  I found it very
 difficult to break into the router world and in between the great network
 design jobs I get, I usually end up managing Microsoft networks.

 The CCNA is one exam, a hard working person can pass that exam with about
a
 month of studying from any of several good books out there.  If your job
 market can employ a CCNA with a fresh cert but no networking experience
 then go for it.

 Otherwise get the MCSE and use it to leverage your Cisco studies.

 my .02 Canadian cents

 Kevin Wigle
 walks both sides of the fence
 CCDP/CCNP/MCSE/CBE/CBI


 - Original Message -
 From: Steven Wagner
 To:
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:13 AM
 Subject: Newbie seeking advice [7:4412]


  I am currently a network administrator and have been for about 2 years.
I
  didn't bother getting my MCSE for two reasons, (1) too many people have
 them
  and have no idea how to run a network much less set one up and (2) I
knew
  that I wanted to eventually work on getting certified in Cisco.  I
figured
  that if Cisco was going to be my focus, all the 

Re: Ping bri0 [7:4414]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Search on CCO for BRI0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing) turned up:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/112/chapter16.htm


What happens to a dialer interface that is not connected? If protocol is not
up and running on the interface, the implication is that the interface
itself will not be up. Routes which rely on that interface will be flushed
from the routing table, and traffic will not be routed to that interface.
The result is that no calls would be initiated by the interface.

The solution to counter this possibility is to allow the state up/up
(spoofing) for dialer interfaces. Any interface can be configured as a
dialer interface. For example, a Serial or Async interface could be made
into a dialer by adding the command dialer in-band or dialer dtr to the
interface's configuration. These lines are unnecessary for interfaces that
are by nature a dialer interface (BRIs and PRIs). The output for a show
interface will look like this:


Montecito# show interfaces bri 0
BRI0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)
  Hardware is BRI
  Internet address is . . .
In other words, the interface pretends to be up/up so that associated
routes will remain in force and so that packets can be routed to the
interface.






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Ken Vandenbark  wrote in message
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 Why would I not be able to ping a bri0? Interface if it says:

 BRI0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)

 Layer 1 status:
 ACTIVE
 Layer 2 status:
 TEI = 104, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
 TEI = 105, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
 Spid status:
 TEI104, ces = 1, state = 5(init)
 spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 valid
 TEI105, ces = 2, state = 5(init)
 spid1 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 valid

 ??
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Re: Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Nope.  You'll have your DLCI's anyway, and that's really it.  You could ask
them if they've got Cisco FR switches at both ends so you know if you need
to configure 'encap frame IETF' or can leave it to the default using Cisco
FR encapsulation (allows for more options, especially with VoIP/FR), but
that won't really affect a simple FR Data network.

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 I want to connect 2 remote sites to a corporate site with Frame-relay
links
 and the corporate site to the Internet with a Frame-relay link.  My
question
 is this:  Do I need anything from the carrier (or does the carrier need to
 configure anything) to utilize sub-interfaces?

 Thanks,

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ATM question [7:4452]

2001-05-14 Thread Kim Seng

To the ATM guru,

I have a ATM WAN via SPRINT from the HQ (Chicago) to 4
regional branch office (LA, FL, NY and CO). 
The PVC infomations that SPRINT provides to me after
the circuit installation completed has only the
Originating VPI and Terminating VPI. There are no
information about the VCI. They said I can pick 
any number for the VCI. This is new to me. Can someone
tell me that is true? I thought to configure
PVC you need both the VPI/VCI that must match with the
ingress ATM switch.

Many thanks in advance.

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Anyone have a script for analyzing sh int output? [7:4453]

2001-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terrance M. Schmitt)

Hi all,

Does anyone have a shell or perl script for taking the information
from a sh interface command and dumping it into columns for ease of
viewing? 

Terry


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Re: Frame Relay Problem [7:4435]

2001-05-14 Thread Jason Roysdon

Make sure you have 'ip bootp server' configured (default), and not 'no ip
bootp server'.  It will stop the ip helper-address from forwarding DHCP
requests if you have it disabled.

Use extended ping to ping from the LAN side of the router that is at the
site with DHCP problems.

'term mon' and 'debug ip dhcp server events' and 'debug ip dhcp server
events' (I think those are the right debugs, I can't seem to find any for ip
helper-address or bootp debug commands so I'm guessing that is it.  Actually
I think the 'debug ip dhcp server *' stuff is for the local dhcp server that
could be configured on the router.  You'll want 'debug ip udp' but be aware
that this will potentially generate a ton of debugs depending on normal
traffic.  I just did it on my local VoIP network: Bad idea, hehee.

What's the fastest command to kill all debug on a router?  I'm pretty sure
it's 'u all'

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robert alldread  wrote in message
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 Hey,

 I have read through the archives and found information close to what I am
 needing, but not exactly.

 Here is the question...

 I have (3) 3600 series routers connected by Frame-relay links.  router#1
is
 the main, router#2 and router#3 hang off of the main in a hub and spoke
 config.  I have a DHCP server behind router#1 that all subnets use for
 address's.  I am running EIGRP.

 Router#2 and router#3 have ip helper-address statements for the DHCP
 server.  Router#2 can ping the DHCP server and its own serial interface
and
 get DHCP addresses, but router#3 can't ping the DHCP server or its own
 serial interface, or get DHCP address's.  Traffic passes fine, LMI is
 correct, and PVC's are setup correctly.  Both Router#2 and Router#3 have
the
 exact same config(beside network numbers, ip address's, and DLCI's).

 What would cause a router not to be able to ping it own serial
interface???
 show ip int s0 says (up,up) and LMI are increasing every 10 seconds..

 Please helpcisco TAC can't even solve this one...

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RE: Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]

2001-05-14 Thread Munoz, Michael

All you should really need from the carrier is the pvc information, and even
then you should be able to see the local dlci's with inverse arp..  You will
also want to know the LMI type, we always use ANSI unless specifically
requested.  Some of you may think that the new version of Cisco IOS detects
the LMI type automatically but I have seen this not happen on more then on
occasion!

Also, configuring your dlci for IETF is only when you are connecting a cisco
router on one end of the circuit and some other vendor's router on the other
end.  It doesn't matter what the Frame Relay switches are.

I'm also wondering about you using Frame Relay to access the internet and
not HDLC but that was not your question...

Here is more info about configuring frame relay from Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/wan_c
/wcfrelay.htm

Thanks,

Mike Munoz



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Subject: Re: Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]


Nope.  You'll have your DLCI's anyway, and that's really it.  You could ask
them if they've got Cisco FR switches at both ends so you know if you need
to configure 'encap frame IETF' or can leave it to the default using Cisco
FR encapsulation (allows for more options, especially with VoIP/FR), but
that won't really affect a simple FR Data network.

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Richie, Nathan  wrote in message
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 I want to connect 2 remote sites to a corporate site with Frame-relay
links
 and the corporate site to the Internet with a Frame-relay link.  My
question
 is this:  Do I need anything from the carrier (or does the carrier need to
 configure anything) to utilize sub-interfaces?

 Thanks,

 Nathan
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Re: ATM question [7:4452]

2001-05-14 Thread Circusnuts

Is this a new service  is Sprint basically saying... the VCI #'s are up to
you ???  I know when I worked for Covad, we allowed the ISP's to pick the
ranges.  As long as I'd not assigned their desired VPI/VCI to another
customer, we let them (the client) dictate.  Is this your situation or is
Sprint telling you that a VCI is not needed altogether ???

Phil

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From: Kim Seng 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: ATM question [7:4452]


 To the ATM guru,

 I have a ATM WAN via SPRINT from the HQ (Chicago) to 4
 regional branch office (LA, FL, NY and CO).
 The PVC infomations that SPRINT provides to me after
 the circuit installation completed has only the
 Originating VPI and Terminating VPI. There are no
 information about the VCI. They said I can pick
 any number for the VCI. This is new to me. Can someone
 tell me that is true? I thought to configure
 PVC you need both the VPI/VCI that must match with the
 ingress ATM switch.

 Many thanks in advance.

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RE: CVoice [7:4394]

2001-05-14 Thread Tim Medley

congratulations. Glad I could be of help.

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Hi Study Folk

Just dropping a line to thank the group for the support and advice that
was given - I knocked off this test successfully this afternoon at the
eleventh hour (May 14 here - the US is still catching up).

A pity it has been relegated to the lapsed category. Just a comment, I
was surprised at how ATM centric the test was. A special thanks to Tim
Medley who put things in perspective (it helped organise my chaos).

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RE: ATM question [7:4452]

2001-05-14 Thread Abran Rivera

Yes it is true. It's kind of a grouping technique that allows the ATM switch
to make a path decision solely on the VPI.

I believe you can access this link to read up on it. Otherwise try an ATM
book or site.

http://lucentdoclibrary-svca.www.conxion.com/english/stinger/manuals/0765-00
2%20.pdf


Hope this helps,
Abran R.

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Kim Seng
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ATM question [7:4452]


To the ATM guru,

I have a ATM WAN via SPRINT from the HQ (Chicago) to 4
regional branch office (LA, FL, NY and CO).
The PVC infomations that SPRINT provides to me after
the circuit installation completed has only the
Originating VPI and Terminating VPI. There are no
information about the VCI. They said I can pick
any number for the VCI. This is new to me. Can someone
tell me that is true? I thought to configure
PVC you need both the VPI/VCI that must match with the
ingress ATM switch.

Many thanks in advance.

Kim.


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RE: Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]

2001-05-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

If I were to guess, I would say that the telco is pitching an all frame
relay solution as a way to keep costs down, telling the customer he can
terminate everything on a single router. there is always the question about
the wisdom of terminating an internet connection on the same router that
connects all parts of your inside network

Chuck

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Munoz, Michael
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Subject:RE: Frame-Relay Sub interface question [7:4432]

All you should really need from the carrier is the pvc information, and even
then you should be able to see the local dlci's with inverse arp..  You will
also want to know the LMI type, we always use ANSI unless specifically
requested.  Some of you may think that the new version of Cisco IOS detects
the LMI type automatically but I have seen this not happen on more then on
occasion!

Also, configuring your dlci for IETF is only when you are connecting a cisco
router on one end of the circuit and some other vendor's router on the other
end.  It doesn't matter what the Frame Relay switches are.

I'm also wondering about you using Frame Relay to access the internet and
not HDLC but that was not your question...

Here is more info about configuring frame relay from Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/wan_c
/wcfrelay.htm

Thanks,

Mike Munoz



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Nope.  You'll have your DLCI's anyway, and that's really it.  You could ask
them if they've got Cisco FR switches at both ends so you know if you need
to configure 'encap frame IETF' or can leave it to the default using Cisco
FR encapsulation (allows for more options, especially with VoIP/FR), but
that won't really affect a simple FR Data network.

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Richie, Nathan  wrote in message
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 I want to connect 2 remote sites to a corporate site with Frame-relay
links
 and the corporate site to the Internet with a Frame-relay link.  My
question
 is this:  Do I need anything from the carrier (or does the carrier need to
 configure anything) to utilize sub-interfaces?

 Thanks,

 Nathan
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Re: ATM question [7:4452]

2001-05-14 Thread David Chandler

Sounds like they are giving you a PVP. (permanent virtual path)  If that
is true then they are correct whatever VCI you choose at the source will
be the same VCI at the destination.  In other words the Sprint ATM
switches will not switch based on the VCI info in the cell header; it
will only look at the VPI info.

I am suprised that the carriers would be giving out PVPs.  That sounds
like the same mentality which was used when they were giving out IP
address ranges. (If you have more than 100 users, you can have a Class A
address)

DaveC


Kim Seng wrote:
 
 To the ATM guru,
 
 I have a ATM WAN via SPRINT from the HQ (Chicago) to 4
 regional branch office (LA, FL, NY and CO).
 The PVC infomations that SPRINT provides to me after
 the circuit installation completed has only the
 Originating VPI and Terminating VPI. There are no
 information about the VCI. They said I can pick
 any number for the VCI. This is new to me. Can someone
 tell me that is true? I thought to configure
 PVC you need both the VPI/VCI that must match with the
 ingress ATM switch.
 
 Many thanks in advance.
 
 Kim.
 
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