Interconnecting Netware Server and Workstation... [7:19911]

2001-09-14 Thread Tyson Mock

Hello,
Am having difficulty being able to log into Netware 4.11 Server from a
workstation.

Setup is this:
Netware 4.11 Server
Tree: LHS
Context: LHS
Encapsulation: Ethernet_802.2
Network:  EBDCB76E

Server is attached to hub which is attached to E0 int on Router_1
We have Windows 2000 Pro Workstation attached to this hub also and can login
to and manage server (everything works on local network).

Router_1
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX network address of EBDCB76E and encapsulation is SAP
int S0 is DCE, clockrate is 56000, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network EBDCB76E
network 10

Router_2
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX net of 20 and encap is SAP
int S1 is DTE, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network 10
network 20

Windows 2000 Pro Workstation is attached to E0 on Router_2 and IPX address
is 20.  Encap is on auto sense with Novell Client 4.8

Now, I can sh ipx servers and see the LHS services.  Also, sh ipx routes and
I have routes established on both routers.

Am I missing something?




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RE: Interconnecting Netware Server and Workstation... [7:19911]

2001-09-14 Thread zx yun

Tyson Mock wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Am having difficulty being able to log into Netware 4.11 Server
 from a
 workstation.
 
 Setup is this:
 Netware 4.11 Server
 Tree: LHS
 Context: LHS
 Encapsulation: Ethernet_802.2
 Network:  EBDCB76E
 
 Server is attached to hub which is attached to E0 int on
 Router_1
 We have Windows 2000 Pro Workstation attached to this hub also
 and can login
 to and manage server (everything works on local network).
 
 Router_1
 IPX Routing enabled
 int E0 has IPX network address of EBDCB76E and encapsulation is
 SAP
 int S0 is DCE, clockrate is 56000, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
 ipx router rip
 network EBDCB76E
 network 10
 
 Router_2
 IPX Routing enabled
 int E0 has IPX net of 20 and encap is SAP
 int S1 is DTE, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
 ipx router rip
 network 10
 network 20
 
 Windows 2000 Pro Workstation is attached to E0 on Router_2 and
 IPX address
 is 20.  Encap is on auto sense with Novell Client 4.8
 
 Now, I can sh ipx servers and see the LHS services.  Also, sh
 ipx routes and
 I have routes established on both routers.
 
 Am I missing something?
 
 




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RE: Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-14 Thread zx yun

Hirsch, Herb wrote:
 
 Hi Mike
 Please count me in please, I have access to a CCO
 account.
   Thanks
   Herb
 
 mike johnson wrote in message
...
 Hi Everyone,

 For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
 do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
 expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you. I
 have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
 using a PC. In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is
 
 




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RE: filtering ospf [7:19856]

2001-09-14 Thread zx yun

Patrick Ramsey wrote:
 
 Anyone remember how to ACL ospf?  
 
 basically I have area 0 on one interface of a router that
 touches another company's area 0 (we're splitting)  And I want
 to stop sending them updates and stop receiving updates from
 them.
 
 The real kicker is that I still have another router on that
 side in area 0 that WAS vendor supported and I can not make any
 changes to it. (therefor area 0 must remain for it to
 communicate properly)
 
 I seem to recall reading about filters designed just for this
 scenario but I can not find them in conf t Anyone else know?
 
 -Patrick
 
 




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Quad T1/PRI or E1/PRI Card With Serial Interface? [7:19915]

2001-09-14 Thread steven

on Quad T1/PRI or E1/PRI Card With Serial Interface
The board provides 4 RJ-45 T1 or E1 PRI ports and 4 serial interfaces for
backhaul WAN support.
What is the function of 4 serial ints?
What does backhaul Wanmean ?


Best regards,


Steven




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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Donlon

Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
possible, I'd be interested to here if it works

cheers

Thomas N.  wrote in message
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 Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:

 -
 video conf. camera
 |
   Ethernet0
 |
Router
 |
 VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
 |
ISDN cloud
 |
 ISDN video conf. camera

 





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  Sorry I missed my topology:
 
 
  ISDN video  conf. camera
 
  |
  Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
  cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
 
  |
 
  ATT MCU
 
 
  Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
this
  VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
 
 
 
 
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   Hi All,
  
   In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
connected
 to
   the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
  module.
   This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the ISP
   provider for video conference (say, ATT).  Do you think it is
possible
 to
   implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU with
  ISDN
   lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
  
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isdn call even if (apparentely) no ip request are coming to [7:19917]

2001-09-14 Thread TP

Dear Group,

I have a 801 ISDN router:  it sends a call even if (apparentely) no ip
request
are coming to.
I've enabled the debug ISDN q931 and debug ip packet.
And I can observe the following:

00:26:27: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:28: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=DNS IP address  (BRI0), g=DNS IP
address , len 62, forward
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=213.183.144.20 (BRI0), len 62,
encapsulation failed
00:26:124554092544: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 67
changed to up
00:26:124554092544: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x05
00:26:124560085020: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:26:124554092544: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:26:124554092544: Called Party Number i = 0x80, 'xxx'
00:26:31: ISDN BR0: RX 




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Re: Policy Based Routing....ive had enough and i`m not going [7:19918]

2001-09-14 Thread Stephen Skinner

Ah.What a Bozo..


my access-lists are just plain poor...


i have also found out that the

ip route-cache policy...command should ONLY (int this case) go on the int 
the traffic is coming from (eth0)

many thanks to all who replyed

especially jenny

(we have a history. i was very insulting ..and have never Really 
appologised.)

jenny  i appologiese...i was very.immatureand quite 
foolish.

CU steve
From: Jins Varghese 
Reply-To: Jins Varghese 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Policy Based Routingive had enough and i`m not going 
[7:19808]
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:52:26 -0400

Hi,

I think the problem is with your access list.
Try configuring like this,

access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 any

Good Luck

Jins Varghese

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   Start of message text 
 
 
 
 
  chaps + chapes`ss
 
  i am having a slight problem with my Policy based routing config and 
would
  be gratefull for your help..
 
  what i am trying to do is this (its quite simple ...it`s just so am i )
 
  all user`s are coming in on the 10.10.10.0  subnet (Eth0) ...
 
  i have two outbound int`s
 
  11.11.11.11 (S0)
  12.12.12.12.(bri0)
 
  what i want to do is split the 10.10.10.0 subnet and policy based route
  everything from 10.10.10.1-10.10.10.127 out S0,
  and route 10.10.10.128-10.10.10.256 out the bri0
 
  this doesn`t seem to be working .here is my config ..
 
  thanks in advance steve (i have sent this to the right mailing list
haven`t
  I..?)
 
  P.S i think it`s the wildcard mask that is stuffedand i also have
EIGRP
  running on the router (old senario test)
 
  version 12.2
  service timestamps
  debug uptimeservice timestamps
  log uptime no
  service password-encryption
  !
  hostname Router
  !!
  memory-size iomem 25
  ip subnet-zero
  !
  ip audit notify log
  ip audit po max-events 100
  call rsvp-sync!!
  !
  !
  interface BRI0 no ip address
  ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy
  ip policy route-map POLICY
  no shutdown
  !
  interface FastEthernet0
  ip address 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy (enables fast switching of policy routing...for
speed)
  ip policy route-map POLICY (create  a policy called POLICY)
  !
  interface Serial0
  ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy (enable fast switching of policy routing)
   (create a policy called POLICY)
  !
  ip classless
  ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.12.12.20
  no ip http serverip
  pim bidir-enable
  !
  access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.128 any
  access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
 
  route-map POLICY permit 10
  match ip address 101
  set ip next-hop 11.11.11.20
  !
  route-map POLICY permit 20
  match ip address 102
  set ip next-hop 12.12.12.20
  !
  !
  line con 0
  line aux 0
  line vty 0 4
  !
  no scheduler allocate
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this will try and cheer everyone up...or i will never be spoken [7:19920]

2001-09-14 Thread Stephen Skinner

thingsd are getting a bit heavy on the list ...and i am trying to releave 
some of the tension felt by our list brothers...

PLEASE i am not making light of the situation..

just trying to help...in my own way

===
i was recently selling someone some equipment ...and the guy is NOt very 
computer litarate..(atleast he can spell)...

and he asked about a warranty...


i said 1 week return to Base

he said Ohhh.. and sounded quite dissapointed

and i said if that no goodwe could go for 2 day RTB..

he again said

Ohhh sounding really very dissapointed ...

so i gave in and asked what wrong

he said i was hopeing for atleast a year warrenty on the equipment..

i looked at him funny then realised what he said ...and had to explain 
to him that the warranty was for a year ..this is just the turn around for 
repair`s...

the guy looked very happy ...and i continued talking for 10 mins before i 
realised what he said and spent the next two hours trying not to cry with 
laughter( i know it`s not his fault it`s just no-one has ever said  
that to me before...i suppose it makes sence ,,)



later (this was last week)  i told a collugue this and he didn`t understand 
why i found it funny..

2 hrs later ...he rang me up laughing...because he could see the logic in 
what he saidand agin found it funny...

Ahh Well

and yes we will be observing a 3 minute silence at 11:00 am today...


Thanks and my prayers go with you

steve

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ADSL to ATM [7:19919]

2001-09-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi All,

Is there a way to connect a ADSL 1401 to local PTT and then to an E3 ATM
7000 Cisco.

Site 1-Cisco ADSL (1401)--- ATM 25 --- ATM cloud (PTT)- ATM --- Site
2-Cisco 7000 with E3 interface.

Thanks

Tarry

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3920 Q?? [7:19921]

2001-09-14 Thread Cisco Lover

Guys?

how to delete whole 3920 config at a time??

any switch or command/menu??


Thanks for help.

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what do you think? [7:19922]

2001-09-14 Thread sam adams




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A deep OSPF Question [7:19923]

2001-09-14 Thread Cisco Lover

ARe we allowed to put IP ospf point to point command  on loopback interfaces 
in order to get their actual mask instead of /32 in CCIE ALB??? Or do we 
have to use are0 range command to summarize this??


Thanks for the help.

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OT: Apology [7:19924]

2001-09-14 Thread Buddy Jenkins

Members,

I would like to express my sincere apology for referring to Cisco as a
religion on this list in a post a couple of days earlier.  It appears that I
have offended some list members and that was not my intention.  I really do
NOT think Cisco is a religion.  I was only trying to make the point that
religion is a discussion better talked about in a different forum than this
list.  I repeat, I do NOT believe that Cisco or networking is a religion and
I apologize for even making the reference.  Please forgive me.

I also want to express my condolences for the events that happened this week
in New York and Washington.  I served time in the US Military and currently
live in Japan.  I have strong American Pride and am proud to have served in
the US Military.  Is sickens me to see what the enemy has done to my
country.  I had to explain to my five year old daughter and seven year old
son why their private American school was closed this week. (it is located
close to the US base in Okinawa and everything is closed down because of the
threatcon delta order)  My son said to me I know why daddy. It is because
America's house is broken.  It really saddens me that my children who have
never lived in the US are getting most of their first hand US experience
from watching the news of this tradgedy.

Buddy Jenkins




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Re: Policy Based Routing....ive had enough and i`m not going [7:19925]

2001-09-14 Thread farhan

try with set int s0 command
and set int bri 0

- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Policy Based Routingive had enough and i`m not going
[7:19910]


 Umm.. it's been a while since I played with access lists, but how about

 access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
 access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.128 0.0.0.127 any

 JMcL
 - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 14/09/2001 03:38 pm -


 Jins
 VargheseTo:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Policy Based
 Routingive had
 Sent by: enough and i`m not going
 [7:19808]

 nobody@groups

 tudy.com



 14/09/2001
 03:52
 am

 Please
 respond
 to

 Jins

 Varghese






 Hi,

 I think the problem is with your access list.
 Try configuring like this,

 access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
 access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 any

 Good Luck

 Jins Varghese

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Memo from Steve Skinner of PricewaterhouseCoopers
 
   Start of message text 
 
 
 
 
  chaps + chapes`ss
 
  i am having a slight problem with my Policy based routing config and
 would
  be gratefull for your help..
 
  what i am trying to do is this (its quite simple ...it`s just so am i )
 
  all user`s are coming in on the 10.10.10.0  subnet (Eth0) ...
 
  i have two outbound int`s
 
  11.11.11.11 (S0)
  12.12.12.12.(bri0)
 
  what i want to do is split the 10.10.10.0 subnet and policy based route
  everything from 10.10.10.1-10.10.10.127 out S0,
  and route 10.10.10.128-10.10.10.256 out the bri0
 
  this doesn`t seem to be working .here is my config ..
 
  thanks in advance steve (i have sent this to the right mailing list
 haven`t
  I..?)
 
  P.S i think it`s the wildcard mask that is stuffedand i also have
 EIGRP
  running on the router (old senario test)
 
  version 12.2
  service timestamps
  debug uptimeservice timestamps
  log uptime no
  service password-encryption
  !
  hostname Router
  !!
  memory-size iomem 25
  ip subnet-zero
  !
  ip audit notify log
  ip audit po max-events 100
  call rsvp-sync!!
  !
  !
  interface BRI0 no ip address
  ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy
  ip policy route-map POLICY
  no shutdown
  !
  interface FastEthernet0
  ip address 10.10.10.10 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy (enables fast switching of policy routing...for
 speed)
  ip policy route-map POLICY (create  a policy called POLICY)
  !
  interface Serial0
  ip address 12.12.12.12 255.255.255.0
  ip route-cache policy (enable fast switching of policy routing)
   (create a policy called POLICY)
  !
  ip classless
  ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 12.12.12.20
  no ip http serverip
  pim bidir-enable
  !
  access-list 101 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.128 any
  access-list 102 permit ip 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.127 any
 
  route-map POLICY permit 10
  match ip address 101
  set ip next-hop 11.11.11.20
  !
  route-map POLICY permit 20
  match ip address 102
  set ip next-hop 12.12.12.20
  !
  !
  line con 0
  line aux 0
  line vty 0 4
  !
  no scheduler allocate
  end
 
 
 
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RE: 3920 Q?? [7:19926]

2001-09-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 how to delete whole 3920 config at a time??
 
 any switch or command/menu??

Press SysRequest on the front.
The new menu allows you to clear NVRAM.
The same menu also allows you to reset the password.

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FW: External power adaptor for IP Phone 79XX [7:19841]

2001-09-14 Thread Sites, Bob

Rick, if you bought the proper switch cards, that can provide the power
through the wire you are correct.  If you don't have the right cards in your
switch you need the purchase the power adapter for the phones, or upgrade
your cards in the switch.  Check the Cisco site for the switch cards you
have to see if they are voice capable and provide power. Make sure your
switch code level is voice capable also.  

Bob Sites
System Engineer
Valley Health System, IS Dept.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: External power adaptor for IP Phone 79XX [7:19841]


I'm using a 7960 but there's no power adaptor hook up to it.  I guess the
LAN connection provides the power.


Rick
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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Thomas N.

Yes,  the camera is H323 supported.  If the module is not the right one,
what module should I use in this case?



Patrick Donlon  wrote in message
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 Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
 possible, I'd be interested to here if it works

 cheers

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  Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes again:
 
  -
  video conf. camera
  |
Ethernet0
  |
 Router
  |
  VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
  |
 ISDN cloud
  |
  ISDN video conf. camera
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  Thomas N.  wrote in message
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   Sorry I missed my topology:
  
  
   ISDN video  conf. camera
  
   |
   Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
   cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
  
   |
  
   ATT MCU
  
  
   Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
 this
   VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
  
  
  
  
   Thomas N.  wrote in message
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Hi All,
   
In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
 connected
  to
the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
   module.
This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the
ISP
provider for video conference (say, ATT).  Do you think it is
 possible
  to
implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU
with
   ISDN
lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!
   
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RE: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

2001-09-14 Thread Haydn Solomon

That's some really good information. I'll definitely have to look into
taking some of these measures. You can never be too secure. If I find
any other strategies on the router side I'll post it. Thanks a lot guys.

-- Haydn

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Subject: Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]

Heres a good solaris security article, likey applicable to other nixes..

http://www.samag.com/articles/2000/0013/0013c/0013c.htm

Brian Sonic Whalen
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, MADMAN wrote:

 I don't know what else on the router you could do but there are things
 you can do on your host but not being a sys admin I can't get into
 details.  Check this out:

 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/4.html

   Dave

 Haydn Solomon wrote:
 
  Actually I was asking what OTHER means than tcp intercept there was
  because we don't have the version that supports it. Can you answer
that?
  I know that our version doesn't cause I checked with the ? feature
and
  the option isn't there. In any case here is a copy of the sh ver.
 
  Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
  IOS (tm) RSP Software (RSP-ISV-M), Version 12.0(15), RELEASE
SOFTWARE
  (fc1)
  Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc.
  Compiled Wed 27-Dec-00 13:54 by linda
  Image text-base: 0x60010930, data-base: 0x60C46000
 
  ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(8)CA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
  SOFTWARE (fc1)
  BOOTFLASH: GS Software (RSP-BOOT-M), Version 11.1(22)CA, EARLY
  DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 
  -- Haydn
 
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  To: Haydn Solomon
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Denial of service attack prevention [7:19568]
 
send a sh ver of your router, not all platforms support TCP
Intercept.
 
Dave
 
  Haydn Solomon wrote:
  
   Hi all,
  
   I was recently reading an article on ciscos site about strategies
for
   preventing denial of service attacks. They mentioned the ip
intercept
   configuration feature for IOS version 11.3. However our routers
are
   running version 12.0 and doesnt have that feature. Does anyone
out
   there know what other effective strategies can be used to prevent
this
   kind of attack on IOS versions other than 11.3? Any input will be
   appreciated, thanks.
  
   -Haydn
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Fwd: WTC [7:19930]

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POP3 SMTP through Pix to Static NAT Address [7:19931]

2001-09-14 Thread atram

I have a situation which someone may be able to shed some light on.

The configuration that is in place is a PIX 515 6.01 with a public IP on the
'outside' interface and private IP on the 'inside' interface as you would
normally see in a straight-forward config.

We are using PAT to another external IP for all internal users.  Also there
are static NAT statements on this same external IP (one used for PAT) that
translate to the appropriate internal IPs for the respective services.

Ex.
static (inside,outside) tcp x.x.x.x  pop3 10.x.x.x  pop3 netmask x.x.x.x
(translating all pop3 queried traffic on x.x.x.x to be forwarded to
10.x.x.x)


One inbound access list is applied to the 'outside' interface filtering for
the protocols we need allowed in and for the static nats.


So this works fine for all external users and querying the various
protocols.  All locations are connected via private frame WAN to the central
location, where the internet connection out is and also this PIX.

Here is the problem.  There are travelling users which bounce from site to
site and are configured to access email via POP3.  Unfortunately this will
not work from inside the PIX.  What it looks like is that basically the
client is querying a pop3 server which resolves to the public IP address
which is in turn the same address assigned for the static nat translation to
the actual internal pop3 box.  I would change the client to resolve pop3 to
the actual internal IP address but then they would be unable to reach the
box from home or hotel etc.

ie.  client queries pop3 to 'popserver.domain.com'  dns resolves this to
x.x.x.x from above static NAT.  Query fails.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be happening and could shed
some light on whether this can be done first of all, and what steps may need
to be taken on the PIX so that interal queries for pop3 and smtp will be
able to go out through the PAT and come back in as the static nat translates
them and still work.


Thanks VERY much for anyones input.




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Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19932]

2001-09-14 Thread chica

Hello Guys,

after recovering from the shock of WTC,I just
remembered that life still has to goes on.
I have a quest and it is : I am due to appear on an
interview on Monday 17th Sep., and I have to give a
presentation on why cisco, and not other competitors.
I have to be able to convince my interviewers in fine
english, why(and how) cisco products(old and new),
protocols,strategy or policy gives cisco an edge over
other competitors, and therefore places cisco at the
top most position.
I have gathered some facts already from cisco's
website
and have acquired some knowledge of cisco over the
years from experience and certifications, but as this
is a matter of do it well and get the job,or not,I
thought it was a good idea to share your
experiences,advice,facts etc,etc.
I would be very thankful for any input at all.
Thank you.

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RE: 3920 Q?? [7:19934]

2001-09-14 Thread Knellinger, Mark

Try the reset menu. Clear Non-Volatile RAM is the option you need to select.
Reset and start over.

Mark

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Guys?

how to delete whole 3920 config at a time??

any switch or command/menu??


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Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-14 Thread chica

Hello Guys,

after recovering from the shock of WTC,I just
remembered that life still has to goes on.
I have a quest and it is : I am due to appear on an
interview on Monday 17th Sep., and I have to give a
presentation on why cisco, and not other competitors.
I have to be able to convince my interviewers in fine
english, why(and how) cisco products(old and new),
protocols,strategy or policy gives cisco an edge over
other competitors, and therefore places cisco at the
top most position.
I have gathered some facts already from cisco's
website
and have acquired some knowledge of cisco over the
years from experience and certifications, but as this
is a matter of do it well and get the job,or not,I
thought it was a good idea to share your
experiences,advice,facts etc,etc.
I would be very thankful for any input at all.
Thank you.

 chika

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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19935]

2001-09-14 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

And if you say they are not gutless why don't you tell us where and when you
will be, and we will see if Bush can round some dudes up and meet you there.
Now that would show courage.
Duck



- Original Message -
From: MADMAN 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19820]


 A non-American wrote:
 
  Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of
death
 or
  life imprisonment ?
 
  The facts as I see them are -
 
  A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they
received.
 My
  heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
 help!
 
  B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
  retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
 knee-jerk.
  Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to
assume
  that they are less intelligent than yourselves.

   Don't think anyone rational is assuming these people are dumb.

 
  C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
 government
  for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
 spilt
  by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
  attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
these
  people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
 else
  out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find
these
  people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the
same
  time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for
tat
  mess Israel is in...

   Yes and the UK or wherever your from only has an interest in France,
 Germany, Ireland etc..., ya right you self rightous European can you say
 WWI, WWII, Crusades, etc...
 
  I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
  semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not
to
  mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion.
The
  level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US
is
  disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty
good
  idea.
 
  Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the
news
  from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.

   I agree that CNN, Clinton News Network is biased to the liberal left
 and of coarse the news is aimed at Americans so I suppose it's not
 tailored to UK audiences, what's your point??

 You can pick ANY country and find faults, we are, after all, made up of
 imperfect people but we are the model for freedom throughout the world
 and therefore a big target also.

   AN AMERICAN who is not AFRAID to use his name

   Dave
 
  A non-American
 
  -Original Message-
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  Fenech, William J
  Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
  [7:19699]
 
  Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The
people
  who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
  exterminated, pure and simple.
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configuring bridge on router [7:19936]

2001-09-14 Thread mak

Hi All,

I would like to know if I configure:

bridge 1 protocol ieee

Is it any special meaning for the 1?
I configure the bridging between two routers like this

PC  R1  R2  PC

I configure bridge 1 for R1 and bridge 2 for R2. But the PC can
browse each other by NetBEUI. Is it this identifier number nothing
special? or is there any special function?

Thank a lot


mak




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Re: IOS image file names [7:19901]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

Yes you can call the file Omer if you wish :)

  Dave

Omer Ehsan Dar wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 First my condolances to the victims of the attack in NewYork and
 Pentagon. No words can describe that emotion one feels after watching
 the events live.
 
 I wanted to ask about IOS image file namesI have three IOS with
 extension bin but two IOS have the following names c5200-boot-l.112-17.P
 and c2500-i-l.112-18.112-18
 
 Can I change the names to noraml .bin files or not?
 Also, If i wanted to change of the IOS in flash to read/write from read
 what do i do?
 
 Thank all
 Omer Dar
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Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19938]

2001-09-14 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I think we should take it a step further. I think we should stop giving out
free consulting services we don't know who we could be aiding and abeting.
Some of these names with the broken english surely show this may be the
case.
Someone yesterday was asking about webphones and it was from a domain with
IRAN in its name. This may make sense in a few days when our boys and girls
are in the field. Remember loose lips sink ships.


- Original Message -
From: Thad Gaston 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's
[7:19833]


 All and Paul

 As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any further insults to the
 religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And as I have requested
 along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic discontinue as it both
 distracting and upsetting.

 Best Regards

 -Original Message-
 From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
 [7:19819]


 Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that
 encourages
 this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its nothing more than an evil
 cult!

 Karl
 - Original Message -
 From: John Mairs
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
 Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
 [7:19726]


  aaammen!
 
  Allah be paved!
 
 
  --- ed smith  wrote:
   Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some
   steam off! Who the hell
   cares about CISCO right now?
  
   Ed
  
   From: Thad Gaston To: ed smith , Subject: RE:
   'It's not the US
   they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679]
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   2001 17:59:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received:
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   AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg  All,  I
   would discourage any
   further post regarding this topic as it becoming
   more and more useless
   and distracting. None of our sentiments are going
   to bring back the
   lives of those that have passed on nor bring about
   the justice the we
   all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track
   and get back to what
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   arrogance' [7:19679]
 That is the biggest load of crap I've ever
   heard! The people we
   see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
   brainwashed!  The common
   person in the middle east would give anything to
   come and live in the
   U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home.
   Believe me, I did 2
   years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in
   that part of the
   World.  I don't see all those God forsaken
   countries having a problem
   with people wanting to immigrate there!  If they
   believe they are
   God's chosen people, why didn't he make them from
   Hawaii, or
   Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World?
They don't have
   the open airways or free flow of information to make
   logical decisions.
   They only believe what their ignorant and jealous
   leaders tell them. 
   They wanted a Holy War I think they have it,,
Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
   here comes a Tomahawk missile!  Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$,
   here comes a flights
   of F-15's!!!  Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm
   going to see Allah! 
   Wait and see brings new meaning to bombs
   bursting in air.  YOU
   SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. 
 
  
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Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2 [7:19540]

2001-09-14 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Yeah I offered to help him retrieve the file from the crashed server haven't
heard back. Imagine that.



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From: ; 
To: ; 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone feel like uploading us IOS 12.1 or 12.2 [7:19540]


 In the middle of studying the back up and restore methods thought in the
 sybex CCNA book my server unfortunetly crashed taking with it my IOS for
the
 2501 router.  I remember it having 12.1 IOS.  If anyone has 12.1 or 12.2
IOS
 and would be kind to upload it to me I would most greatly appreciate it.
 thank you all.

 Nice Try!
 No freebies, fuckhead!!!
 Get a Smartnet contract!
 Rob H, NP, DP, blah,blah,blah
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RE: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

it is a process identifier, and used in the bridge-group command to indicate
which bridge process you want to group on the interface. if you are running
integrated routing and bridging, it is also used with the interface BVI
command to indicate which bridge process to associate with the BVI. it has
local significance only.

kinda like access list numbers and ospf process numbers.

HTH

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Subject: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]


Hi All,

I would like to know if I configure:

bridge 1 protocol ieee

Is it any special meaning for the 1?
I configure the bridging between two routers like this

PC  R1  R2  PC

I configure bridge 1 for R1 and bridge 2 for R2. But the PC can
browse each other by NetBEUI. Is it this identifier number nothing
special? or is there any special function?

Thank a lot


mak




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Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Well of course the os is proprieteryIt's cisco's 

But it runs on intel architecture, boots from compatible flash, and uses
standard nicshence the abillity to run the os from a pc  Even though
this pc would have to have the nics that the os supports as well as the
flash, it should still be possible.

-Patrick

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  09/14/01 12:51AM 
Unless things have changed in the past year or so, you cannot build a Pix on 
a PC.  The PIX has a proprietary OS, which is specifically touted as NOT 
being portable to a PC platform.  Since the OS is proprietary, it is 
considered less subject to attack than those sitting on known and vulnerable 
(MS  unix) operating systems.

Hope this helps

Joe
In a message dated 9/13/01 10:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone have the information for building a Pix box on
a PC!

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RE: A deep OSPF Question [7:19923]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

since you're obviously prepping for the CCIE lab, have you asked Paul to
place you on the CCIE Lab list?

to answer your question, when you walk into your Lab exam, you will be given
a thick book in which is your lab scenario. Instruction number one: do what
you are told.

instruction number two: in situations where there is some ambiguity, ask the
proctor.

It is possible, and in fact highly likely, that one person will have an
instruction saying no /32's are to be advertised anywhere. in that case, one
must be familiar with the various means of accomplishing the task. at the
same time another person might be instructed not to change the OSPF network
type on any interface, with no instruction regarding /32'. one must
understand the ramifications, not just on loopbacks, but on all interfaces.

HTH

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Subject: A deep OSPF Question [7:19923]


ARe we allowed to put IP ospf point to point command  on loopback interfaces
in order to get their actual mask instead of /32 in CCIE ALB??? Or do we
have to use are0 range command to summarize this??


Thanks for the help.

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RE: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]

2001-09-14 Thread Ouellette, Tim

The 1 in your question refers to the bridge-group number
cisco.com -- Assigns a bridge group number and defines a Spanning Tree
Protocol as IEEE802.1D standard, DEC or VLAN bridge
I believe that in an TRB environment, you'd want both routers to have the
same bridge number for STP to work correctly. I hope i'm steering you in the
right direction.

Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: mak [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:00 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  configuring bridge on router [7:19936]
 
 Hi All,
 
 I would like to know if I configure:
 
 bridge 1 protocol ieee
 
 Is it any special meaning for the 1?
 I configure the bridging between two routers like this
 
 PC  R1  R2  PC
 
 I configure bridge 1 for R1 and bridge 2 for R2. But the PC can
 browse each other by NetBEUI. Is it this identifier number nothing
 special? or is there any special function?
 
 Thank a lot
 
 
 mak




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Re: A deep OSPF Question [7:19923]

2001-09-14 Thread Peter Van Oene

I would say that depends on what they ask you to do.  I assume you know how
to do both?

Peter


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ARe we allowed to put IP ospf point to point command  on loopback
interfaces 
in order to get their actual mask instead of /32 in CCIE ALB??? Or do we 
have to use are0 range command to summarize this??


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Multicast traffic PIX [7:19946]

2001-09-14 Thread kwock99

Hi All,

I have tried to let the multicast traffic passing through the PIX firewall
using Version 5.1 with the following command.

access-list 100 permit icmp any any
access-list 100 permit tcp any any
access-list 100 permit udp any any
access-group 100 in interface outside
access-list 101 permit icmp any any
access-list 101 permit tcp any any
access-list 101 permit udp any any
access-group 101 in interface inside

Everything(ping, ftp) seems to work execpt the multicast traffice (media
player, IP/TV).

For the IP/TV, the viewer can get the content from the server. but cannot do
start to play the program. It is same as when I am using the media player to
access the Microsoft Media Server.

I have tried to access the Multicast Server inside the LAN, and the server is
working.

Do I have to set up anything to make the PIX to pass through the multicast
traffic?

Thanks.

Francis




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Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19949]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

Hey lets get something straight before anyone sends anymore misguided
mail, THIS WAS NOT MY POST, I simply replied, comments inline!  I
did not make the gutless comments or any of the other BS and I'm sorry I
ever got off the technical aspects of this list.

  Calm down Don and have a nice weekend

  Dave

Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
 
 And if you say they are not gutless why don't you tell us where and when
you
 will be, and we will see if Bush can round some dudes up and meet you
there.
 Now that would show courage.
 Duck
 
 - Original Message -
 From: MADMAN
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
 [7:19820]
 
  A non-American wrote:
  
   Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of
 death
  or
   life imprisonment ?
  
   The facts as I see them are -
  
   A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they
 received.
  My
   heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
  help!
  
   B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
   retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
  knee-jerk.
   Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to
 assume
   that they are less intelligent than yourselves.
 
Don't think anyone rational is assuming these people are dumb.
 
  
   C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
  government
   for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
  spilt
   by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
   attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
 these
   people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
  else
   out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find
 these
   people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the
 same
   time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for
 tat
   mess Israel is in...
 
Yes and the UK or wherever your from only has an interest in France,
  Germany, Ireland etc..., ya right you self rightous European can you say
  WWI, WWII, Crusades, etc...
  
   I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
   semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not
 to
   mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion.
 The
   level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US
 is
   disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty
 good
   idea.
  
   Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the
 news
   from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.
 
I agree that CNN, Clinton News Network is biased to the liberal left
  and of coarse the news is aimed at Americans so I suppose it's not
  tailored to UK audiences, what's your point??
 
  You can pick ANY country and find faults, we are, after all, made up of
  imperfect people but we are the model for freedom throughout the world
  and therefore a big target also.
 
AN AMERICAN who is not AFRAID to use his name
 
Dave
  
   A non-American
  
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   Fenech, William J
   Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
   [7:19699]
  
   Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The
 people
   who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should
be
   exterminated, pure and simple.
  --
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  Sr. Network Engineer
  CCIE# 2016
  Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  612-664-3367
 
  Emotion should reflect reason not guide it
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RE: ADSL to ATM [7:19919]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

absolutely, IF ( and this is a big one ) IF your telco supports DSL to ATM
on their network.

I sell this solutions to customers all the time now. It makes perfect sense
in terms of their budget and data flow. yes I give the speech about
reliability and oversubscription of the DSLAMs. ADSL these days is pretty
much ATM on the DSLAM and local DSL link.

I can't name names, of course, but I know one major biotech and one major
high tech company out this way who use this kind of application as a part of
their remote access strategy. I also know several medical organizations that
are using this for site to site connectivity ( small clinics and doctor's
offices to central hospital )

The caveat in general is that at this point in time, you must use the same
carrier for your DSL and ATM needs. I live on the west coast, and the local
telco out here does indeed support this application. but only if you buy end
to end from the telco.

HTH

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Hi All,

Is there a way to connect a ADSL 1401 to local PTT and then to an E3 ATM
7000 Cisco.

Site 1-Cisco ADSL (1401)--- ATM 25 --- ATM cloud (PTT)- ATM --- Site
2-Cisco 7000 with E3 interface.

Thanks

Tarry

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Re: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

You are right, like the OSPF number, it is local to the router and not
propogated to adjacent routers.

  Dave

mak wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I would like to know if I configure:
 
 bridge 1 protocol ieee
 
 Is it any special meaning for the 1?
 I configure the bridging between two routers like this
 
 PC  R1  R2  PC
 
 I configure bridge 1 for R1 and bridge 2 for R2. But the PC can
 browse each other by NetBEUI. Is it this identifier number nothing
 special? or is there any special function?
 
 Thank a lot
 
 mak
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Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19948]

2001-09-14 Thread George Dodds

Why dont we just suspend the newsgroup! since everyone
with a dodgy name is a suspect. if we cant share
information what is the point!

We are here to help each other to progress our
knowledge in the networking field  dig each other out
of the proverbial on occasions.

If you feel that you dont want to answer a thread then
so be it, everyone has to make there own decision.

George

 --- Donald B Johnson jr 
wrote:  I think we should take it a step further. I
think we
 should stop giving out
 free consulting services we don't know who we could
 be aiding and abeting.
 Some of these names with the broken english surely
 show this may be the
 case.
 Someone yesterday was asking about webphones and it
 was from a domain with
 IRAN in its name. This may make sense in a few days
 when our boys and girls
 are in the field. Remember loose lips sink ships.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thad Gaston 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:29 PM
 Subject: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want
 to destroy. It's
 [7:19833]
 
 
  All and Paul
 
  As a muslim I would greatly appreciate that any
 further insults to the
  religion of Islam be refrained from this list. And
 as I have requested
  along with Priscilla, that this thread and topic
 discontinue as it both
  distracting and upsetting.
 
  Best Regards
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hal9001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:49 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to
 destroy. It's our arrogance'
  [7:19819]
 
 
  Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so
 called religion that
  encourages
  this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell.  Its
 nothing more than an evil
  cult!
 
  Karl
  - Original Message -
  From: John Mairs
  To:
  Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
  Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to
 destroy. It's our arrogance'
  [7:19726]
 
 
   aaammen!
  
   Allah be paved!
  
  
   --- ed smith  wrote:
Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow
 some
steam off! Who the hell
cares about CISCO right now?
   
Ed
   
From: Thad Gaston To: ed smith ,
 Subject: RE:
'It's not the US
they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
 [7:19679]
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AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg  All, 
 I
would discourage any
further post regarding this topic as it
 becoming
more and more useless
and distracting. None of our sentiments are
 going
to bring back the
lives of those that have passed on nor bring
 about
the justice the we
all would like to see. Let's keep the list on
 track
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this list is intended for.  Regards,  Thad
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Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:
Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy.
 It's our
arrogance' [7:19679]
  That is the biggest load of crap I've
 ever
heard! The people we
see dancing in the streets of Palestine are
brainwashed!  The common
person in the middle east would give anything
 to
come and live in the
U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call
 home.
Believe me, I did 2
years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth
 keeping in
that part of the
World.  I don't see all those God forsaken
countries having a problem
with people wanting to immigrate there! 
 If they
believe they are
God's chosen people, why didn't he make them
 from
Hawaii, or
Switzerland, or some other nice part of this
 World?
 They don't have
the open airways or free flow of information
 to make
logical decisions.
They only believe what their ignorant and
 jealous
leaders tell them. 
They wanted a Holy War I think they have
 it,,
 Holy @!#$ Ahkmed,
here comes a Tomahawk missile!  Holy @!#$
 Al-@!#$,
here comes a flights
of F-15's!!!  Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think
 I'm
going to see Allah! 
Wait and see brings new meaning to bombs
bursting in air.  YOU
SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email
 anyway. 
  
   
  

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Re: A deep OSPF Question [7:19952]

2001-09-14 Thread Brian

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Cisco Lover wrote:

 ARe we allowed to put IP ospf point to point command  on loopback
interfaces
 in order to get their actual mask instead of /32 in CCIE ALB??? Or do we
 have to use are0 range command to summarize this??

I would imagine you can use any method you like that works, so long as its
within the guidelines of the question.  I mean if the question says
Without modifying the OSPF networking type.. or something like
that then you can't use that method.  If they don't disallow a method,
then it should be fair game..but you really have to read carefully
because when they exclude certain methods, they don't always just come out
and say you can't use... you have to read into the question and
understand the direction they are trying to steer you.  This is why it is
a great thing to know multiple ways of doing something, so you are
prepared.

Brian




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OT - but relevant [7:19953]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

the folks at NANOG are reporting that the 25 Broadway facility in New York
City has finally gone down. due to lack of power and generators running out
of fuel having to shut down due to clogged intake valves. According to the
list mavens, this facility is a termination point for a LOT of telephone and
data connectivity to Europe and Africa.

there may be implications to internet traffic elsewhere, as data takes
different paths to get where its going.




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PIX Firewall question [7:19954]

2001-09-14 Thread Soucy, Aaron

Does anyone know if it is possible to have a connection to a specific host
outside the network without having to re-authenticate?  I am running PIX IOS
4.4(5).  Thanks in advance for any help. 

Aaron Soucy 
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RE: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-14 Thread Daniel Cotts

The TAC is the best reason to buy Cisco. Service after the sale to keep the
network going is worth the extra initial cost of Cisco. Good luck with your
presentation.

 -Original Message-
 From: chica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
 
 
 Hello Guys,
 
 after recovering from the shock of WTC,I just
 remembered that life still has to goes on.
 I have a quest and it is : I am due to appear on an
 interview on Monday 17th Sep., and I have to give a
 presentation on why cisco, and not other competitors.
 I have to be able to convince my interviewers in fine
 english, why(and how) cisco products(old and new),
 protocols,strategy or policy gives cisco an edge over
 other competitors, and therefore places cisco at the
 top most position.
 I have gathered some facts already from cisco's
 website
 and have acquired some knowledge of cisco over the
 years from experience and certifications, but as this
 is a matter of do it well and get the job,or not,I
 thought it was a good idea to share your
 experiences,advice,facts etc,etc.
 I would be very thankful for any input at all.
 Thank you.
 
  chika
 
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Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]

2001-09-14 Thread Allen May

And for one we could see a PIX 515 boot up without the mouse not
initialized message ;)  I could finally plug one in to make it
happy...rofl.

- Original Message -
From: Patrick Ramsey 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]


 Well of course the os is proprieteryIt's cisco's 

 But it runs on intel architecture, boots from compatible flash, and uses
 standard nicshence the abillity to run the os from a pc  Even though
 this pc would have to have the nics that the os supports as well as the
 flash, it should still be possible.

 -Patrick

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  09/14/01 12:51AM 
 Unless things have changed in the past year or so, you cannot build a Pix
on
 a PC.  The PIX has a proprietary OS, which is specifically touted as NOT
 being portable to a PC platform.  Since the OS is proprietary, it is
 considered less subject to attack than those sitting on known and
vulnerable
 (MS  unix) operating systems.

 Hope this helps

 Joe
 In a message dated 9/13/01 10:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  a PC!

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Re: Video/voice over IP [7:19905]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Donlon

Thomas I've had a look round CCO and I can't see very much to do with video
apart from marketing spiel. I was thinking that this should work but then I
had of a couple of thoughts, from my experience with voip normally a call to
or from an isdn interface would be a voice call and not a data call. I'm
thinking that the video conferencing equipment accepts only data calls,
maybe it is possible just send the traffic out of the isdn interface as a
data call. Just found some info have a look at this
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/mucvmn/prodlit/ipmcm_ds.htm
this is just an example but it looks like it could be possible, maybe
someone else has done video and can provide some input

cheers



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 Yes,  the camera is H323 supported.  If the module is not the right one,
 what module should I use in this case?



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  Thomas does the camera use h323 across the network? if so it should be
  possible, I'd be interested to here if it works
 
  cheers
 
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   Hm... my topology messed up with the line swapping.  Here it goes
again:
  
   -
   video conf. camera
   |
 Ethernet0
   |
  Router
   |
   VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
   |
  ISDN cloud
   |
   ISDN video conf. camera
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
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Sorry I missed my topology:
   
   
ISDN video  conf. camera
   
|
Video conf. camera ---Ethernet0-Router-VIC-2BRI-NT/TEISDN
cloud---ISDN video conf. camera
   
|
   
ATT MCU
   
   
Can my IP conf. video camera talk with ISDN video conf. camera using
  this
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE module?
   
   
   
   
Thomas N.  wrote in message
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 Hi All,

 In my lab scenario, I have an conference video camera that is
  connected
   to
 the LAN.  On the router, I have a 2600 router with a
VIC-2BRI-NT/TE
module.
 This VIC-2BRI-NT/TE mdule is then connected to the a MCU from the
 ISP
 provider for video conference (say, ATT).  Do you think it is
  possible
   to
 implement so that my video conference camera can call the ISP MCU
 with
ISDN
 lines using the gateway mdule VIC-2BRI-NT/TE?  Thanks!!!

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Re: Multicast traffic PIX [7:19946]

2001-09-14 Thread Allen May

Ummmyou might as well get rid of the PIX if you're going to allow any
any on all protocols

On www.cisco.com a search for +pix +multicast brought up many links for me
but rather than post them all, check it out for yourself.  There is alot of
useful stuff in there.


- Original Message -
From: kwock99 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Multicast traffic  PIX [7:19946]


 Hi All,

 I have tried to let the multicast traffic passing through the PIX firewall
 using Version 5.1 with the following command.

 access-list 100 permit icmp any any
 access-list 100 permit tcp any any
 access-list 100 permit udp any any
 access-group 100 in interface outside
 access-list 101 permit icmp any any
 access-list 101 permit tcp any any
 access-list 101 permit udp any any
 access-group 101 in interface inside

 Everything(ping, ftp) seems to work execpt the multicast traffice (media
 player, IP/TV).

 For the IP/TV, the viewer can get the content from the server. but cannot
do
 start to play the program. It is same as when I am using the media player
to
 access the Microsoft Media Server.

 I have tried to access the Multicast Server inside the LAN, and the server
is
 working.

 Do I have to set up anything to make the PIX to pass through the multicast
 traffic?

 Thanks.

 Francis




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Re: Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-14 Thread Brad Moss

I too would like to be included.
Thanks

Brad Moss CCNA
Network Administrator
CHRISTUS Health System
Paris TX, 75460

- Original Message -
From: zx yun 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:49 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco PIX [7:19888]


 Hirsch, Herb wrote:
 
  Hi Mike
  Please count me in please, I have access to a CCO
  account.
  Thanks
  Herb
 
  mike johnson wrote in message
 ...
  Hi Everyone,
 
  For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
  do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
  expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you. I
  have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
  using a PC. In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is




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FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-14 Thread David Toalson

I work at a subsidiary of a large healthcare company.  My office is 100%
Cisco for Routers and Switches.  We have a total of 30 routers and 8
switches.  I work with 30 remote sites, a main office and separate Data
Center.  I have attached a show version from one of our two 7505 core
routers.  As you can see it has been up for over 4 years without any
problems.  Our second has been up almost 2 years.  My parent company is a
Nortel shop.  They have to re-boot their core router about every 45-60
days or more offten and many of their switches on a regular basis.  Granted,
they push a lot more data through their system, but still..  As
approximately 1/3 of my remote sites run across the Parent company WAN a
majority of the down time I am faced with is because of the Nortel
equipment.

I don't know if this will help, but it makes me feel better to vent a
little.  Please call me if you want any more specifics.

CHSDCBsh clock
10:17:14.824 UTC Fri Sep 14 2001
CHSDCBsh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) GS Software (RSP-JV-M), Version 11.1(9)CA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE S 
Synced to mainline version: 11.1(9)
Copyright (c) 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 26-Mar-97 22:34 by bellb
Image text-base: 0x60010900, data-base: 0x60A0A000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.3.2(3.2) [kmac 3.2], MAINTENANCE INTERIM
SOFTWE
ROM: GS Software (RSP-JV-M), Version 11.1(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

CHSDCB uptime is 4 years, 23 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 26 minutes
System restarted by reload at 19:50:36 UTC Fri Apr 4 1997
System image file is slot0:1119ca.bin, booted via slot0

David Toalson
816-701-4142

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 Reply To: chica
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:43 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
 
 Hello Guys,
 
 after recovering from the shock of WTC,I just
 remembered that life still has to goes on.
 I have a quest and it is : I am due to appear on an
 interview on Monday 17th Sep., and I have to give a
 presentation on why cisco, and not other competitors.
 I have to be able to convince my interviewers in fine
 english, why(and how) cisco products(old and new),
 protocols,strategy or policy gives cisco an edge over
 other competitors, and therefore places cisco at the
 top most position.
 I have gathered some facts already from cisco's
 website
 and have acquired some knowledge of cisco over the
 years from experience and certifications, but as this
 is a matter of do it well and get the job,or not,I
 thought it was a good idea to share your
 experiences,advice,facts etc,etc.
 I would be very thankful for any input at all.
 Thank you.
 
  chika
 
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Re: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]

2001-09-14 Thread Charles Manafa

The 1 is the bridge-group number, and has local significance. For traffic
to be bridged across router interfaces, all the interfaces must belong to
the same bridge group.

CM
- Original Message -
From: mak 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: configuring bridge on router [7:19936]


 Hi All,

 I would like to know if I configure:

 bridge 1 protocol ieee

 Is it any special meaning for the 1?
 I configure the bridging between two routers like this

 PC  R1  R2  PC

 I configure bridge 1 for R1 and bridge 2 for R2. But the PC can
 browse each other by NetBEUI. Is it this identifier number nothing
 special? or is there any special function?

 Thank a lot


 mak




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RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [7:3336]

2001-09-14 Thread Paul Holloway

Also Raymond, your friend, Masood, has just recently gained a pretty good
ally. He just went from having to fight a losing battle with the Taliban by
himself, to having the entire power of the United States military, NATO, and
other countries, fighting by his side. Lets hope they wipe your former
country clean of this scourge, and give it back to good people such as
yourself and your family.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
James Haynes
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


Eloquently stated Raymond. God Bless you and your family. As posted here, so
many people have tragic tales to tell. Mine is brighter picture. My sister
who was at ground-zero made it out alive and is now at home with me. It was
such a frantic time of uncertainty for my family it pains me to know others
have gone through the same thing and are still living with the same
uncertainty. Kind souls such as yourself are a welcome relief to hear at a
time like this. My heart goes out to all people living through this
nightmare.

--
James Haynes
Network Architect
Cendant IT
A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
CQS-SNA/IPSS

Raymond Thomas  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I was asked where I was born since I am citizen not born in the US so here
 it goes. This will be a long email... and if there are many ignorant
people
 on this board, then I don't mind not seeing their resumes anymore. Please
 read the whole thing and read between the lines if you can, and there
 shouldn't be a reason for flames if you do so.

 I was born in Afghanistan in 1977, making me 24 yrs. old (recruiting for 4
 1/2 yrs). In 1978, Russia invaded our country and we had to flee to
Pakistan
 as refugees, leaving many loved ones and all my family had built for
 themselves all the years they lived. My family was part of the top 5%
 wealthiest families in the country and very loved by all because we gave
30%
 of our earnings to the poor and employed 60% of the population in one of
the
 major cities. We traded everything we owned... mansions, businesses,
 jewelry, farm animals, money and in return, we were allowed to flee to
 Pakistan. We gave them all up to Ahmad Shah Masood who has been fighting
the
 Talibans for these past few years. Family members grew up with him and
 funded his armies to keep the peace.  Masood has been fighting the
Talibans
 for the past few years now, with very little funding and very little
support
 and failing. He only has 5% of the country and the other 95% by the
Talibans
 who are killing our men and children and raping our women. Masood asked
the
 US for help years ago against the Taliban and warned them that they are an
 extremist group that will not be just a threat to Afghans in Afghanistan,
 but a threat to the world. Guess who has been hiding under the Taliban
 govt... Bin Ladin who is suspected for this tragic event.

 We then lived in Pakistan for 2 1/2 years till we got our visas to come to
 the US (NYC). My father was a very well known doctor in Afghanistan and
when
 we came here, he wasn't allowed to practice medicine till he passed the
 American exams. In order for him to do so, he would have to learn English
as
 a second language first, then try to pass the American exams... not easy
to
 do with all the trauma sustained as refugees watching missiles flown over
 your head and watching loved ones blown apart. It took him another 8 years
 to do so. In the 8 years, he drove a cab for the first 5 years, just to
make
 ends meet and then landed a job as an X-Ray Technician. Finally he passed
 and became a doctor, working for a prestigious hospital and now at the
scene
 of the WTC helping others. We also have our own practice in Astoria,
Queens
 in our home. He accepts Medicaid, knowing they don't pay doctors anything,
 but wanted to give low income families the same privileges of seeing a
 doctor without waiting 4 hours in ER. My older sister is in her 4th year
Med
 school and every night after her shifts in Long Island, she commutes to
St.
 Vincents and volunteers there from 8:00 - 1:00 am. Then back to Long
Island
 at 6:00 am in the morning. I try to go there every night to NJ and try to
 give out water and food to the bravest people in our country, the firemen
 and police.

 I am Afghan by blood, but an American at heart for I have lived here for
 over 20 years of my life. I am also a Muslim, practicing peace and harmony
 amongst my friends. My boss and very close friend is Jewish. So is my
 colleague and second father on this group, you know who you are my friend.
 There are many Muslims that are peaceful people by the teachings of our
 religion. I ask all of you not to be fooled my extremists blanketing
 themselves with religion as true followers of that religion. God DID NOT
say
 to kill yourself for me and take innocent lives with you. We don't live in
a
 time where that should 

traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread khramov

sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
routers that packet is going through?

Regards,
Alex

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Re: PIX Firewall question [7:19954]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Ramsey

I'm not sure I follow...

You want a host internal to your firewall to have access to a host outside
your firewall?

 Soucy, Aaron  09/14/01 11:10AM 
Does anyone know if it is possible to have a connection to a specific host
outside the network without having to re-authenticate?  I am running PIX IOS
4.4(5).  Thanks in advance for any help. 

Aaron Soucy 
IT Support Analyst 
Women's Health Connecticut 
22 Waterville Road 
Avon, CT  06001 
Phone: (860) 678-3496 
Fax: (860) 678-3449 
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RE: Multicast traffic PIX [7:19946]

2001-09-14 Thread Murphy, Brian J SITI-ISET-31

Maybe you should consider allowing PIM and IGMP

-Original Message-
From: Allen May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 September 2001 17:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multicast traffic  PIX [7:19946]

Ummmyou might as well get rid of the PIX if you're going to allow any
any on all protocols

On www.cisco.com a search for +pix +multicast brought up many links for me
but rather than post them all, check it out for yourself.  There is alot of
useful stuff in there.


- Original Message -
From: kwock99 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Multicast traffic  PIX [7:19946]


 Hi All,

 I have tried to let the multicast traffic passing through the PIX firewall
 using Version 5.1 with the following command.

 access-list 100 permit icmp any any
 access-list 100 permit tcp any any
 access-list 100 permit udp any any
 access-group 100 in interface outside
 access-list 101 permit icmp any any
 access-list 101 permit tcp any any
 access-list 101 permit udp any any
 access-group 101 in interface inside

 Everything(ping, ftp) seems to work execpt the multicast traffice (media
 player, IP/TV).

 For the IP/TV, the viewer can get the content from the server. but cannot
do
 start to play the program. It is same as when I am using the media player
to
 access the Microsoft Media Server.

 I have tried to access the Multicast Server inside the LAN, and the server
is
 working.

 Do I have to set up anything to make the PIX to pass through the multicast
 traffic?

 Thanks.

 Francis




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RE: OT - but relevant [7:19953]

2001-09-14 Thread Bob Johnson

FYI...

60 Hudson seems to be fine...
It's more a telcom location than IP
As far as I can tell it's still on commercial power...
It's behind the security corridor so there is no access...
Worldcom/MCI circuits to have been greatly affected as they lost several
DACS in other facilities...


 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:11 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT - but relevant [7:19953]
 
 
 the folks at NANOG are reporting that the 25 Broadway 
 facility in New York
 City has finally gone down. due to lack of power and 
 generators running out
 of fuel having to shut down due to clogged intake valves. 
 According to the
 list mavens, this facility is a termination point for a LOT 
 of telephone and
 data connectivity to Europe and Africa.
 
 there may be implications to internet traffic elsewhere, as data takes
 different paths to get where its going.




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Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Ramsey

REALLY?  Makes you wonder why they would ever have mouse drivers embedded in
their code!  We use 525's here and I see nothing of the sort.

Maybe they use VI to edit their code in and they just wanted cut and paste
support!  : )

 Allen May  09/14/01 11:16AM 
And for one we could see a PIX 515 boot up without the mouse not
initialized message ;)  I could finally plug one in to make it
happy...rofl.

- Original Message -
From: Patrick Ramsey 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]


 Well of course the os is proprieteryIt's cisco's 

 But it runs on intel architecture, boots from compatible flash, and uses
 standard nicshence the abillity to run the os from a pc  Even though
 this pc would have to have the nics that the os supports as well as the
 flash, it should still be possible.

 -Patrick

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  09/14/01 12:51AM 
 Unless things have changed in the past year or so, you cannot build a Pix
on
 a PC.  The PIX has a proprietary OS, which is specifically touted as NOT
 being portable to a PC platform.  Since the OS is proprietary, it is
 considered less subject to attack than those sitting on known and
vulnerable
 (MS  unix) operating systems.

 Hope this helps

 Joe
 In a message dated 9/13/01 10:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  a PC!

 Tmuzaina




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Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]

2001-09-14 Thread Allen May

Yeah its' thereI thought I was seeing things the first time I noticed it
so I issued another restart...sure enough...right there in the POST test ;)

- Original Message -
From: Patrick Ramsey 
To: ; 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]


 REALLY?  Makes you wonder why they would ever have mouse drivers embedded
in their code!  We use 525's here and I see nothing of the sort.

 Maybe they use VI to edit their code in and they just wanted cut and paste
support!  : )

  Allen May  09/14/01 11:16AM 
 And for one we could see a PIX 515 boot up without the mouse not
 initialized message ;)  I could finally plug one in to make it
 happy...rofl.

 - Original Message -
 From: Patrick Ramsey 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: Information on building a Pix out of a PC [7:19775]


  Well of course the os is proprieteryIt's cisco's 
 
  But it runs on intel architecture, boots from compatible flash, and uses
  standard nicshence the abillity to run the os from a pc  Even
though
  this pc would have to have the nics that the os supports as well as the
  flash, it should still be possible.
 
  -Patrick
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  09/14/01 12:51AM 
  Unless things have changed in the past year or so, you cannot build a
Pix
 on
  a PC.  The PIX has a proprietary OS, which is specifically touted as NOT
  being portable to a PC platform.  Since the OS is proprietary, it is
  considered less subject to attack than those sitting on known and
 vulnerable
  (MS  unix) operating systems.
 
  Hope this helps
 
  Joe
  In a message dated 9/13/01 10:54:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
a PC!
 
  Tmuzaina




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Re: traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Ramsey

chances are, it's not skipping them but without an icmp reply from that
router, it won't register.  The ttl still gets decremented and the packet
dropped, the tracing station then sends another icmp packet with a ttl of
one hop past the previous.  If that router is answering icmp requests, it
will then decrement the ttl and drop the packet, then answer back via icmp. 
The station then starts the process all over again, increasing the ttl by
one each time until it hits the destination.

Now, if you are tracing to the same destination time and time again and
sometimes you get a full trace and other times you don't, thew routers might
just be too busy to respond to icmp requests.

-Patrick

 khramov  09/14/01 12:06PM 
sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
routers that packet is going through?

Regards,
Alex

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route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread The New Guy

A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:

172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??

We both came to the same conclusion:

  ^
172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
  ^

Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
would
be:
172.21.136.0/21

However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I think the test
from Cisco is wrong, typo or something

Dyland




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RE: PIX Firewall question [7:19954]

2001-09-14 Thread Soucy, Aaron

I dont think I worded my question properly.  We currently have a 30 minute
idle time limit.  We have a server that needs to have access to a specific
server without being subject to the normal timeout period. 

Aaron Soucy 
IT Support Analyst 
Women's Health Connecticut 
22 Waterville Road 
Avon, CT  06001 
Phone: (860) 678-3496 
Fax: (860) 678-3449 
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-Original Message-
From: Patrick Ramsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I'm not sure I follow...

You want a host internal to your firewall to have access to a host outside
your firewall?

 Soucy, Aaron  09/14/01 11:10AM 
Does anyone know if it is possible to have a connection to a specific host
outside the network without having to re-authenticate?  I am running PIX IOS
4.4(5).  Thanks in advance for any help. 

Aaron Soucy 
IT Support Analyst 
Women's Health Connecticut 
22 Waterville Road 
Avon, CT  06001 
Phone: (860) 678-3496 
Fax: (860) 678-3449 
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Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-14 Thread Patrick Ramsey

ya know, I am a fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but dudeDo you
never want the fixes and features of newer code?  Just curious... Especialy
with Cisco NAT in it's infant stages...

-Patrick

 David Toalson  09/14/01 11:52AM 
I work at a subsidiary of a large healthcare company.  My office is 100%
Cisco for Routers and Switches.  We have a total of 30 routers and 8
switches.  I work with 30 remote sites, a main office and separate Data
Center.  I have attached a show version from one of our two 7505 core
routers.  As you can see it has been up for over 4 years without any
problems.  Our second has been up almost 2 years.  My parent company is a
Nortel shop.  They have to re-boot their core router about every 45-60
days or more offten and many of their switches on a regular basis.  Granted,
they push a lot more data through their system, but still..  As
approximately 1/3 of my remote sites run across the Parent company WAN a
majority of the down time I am faced with is because of the Nortel
equipment.

I don't know if this will help, but it makes me feel better to vent a
little.  Please call me if you want any more specifics.

CHSDCBsh clock
10:17:14.824 UTC Fri Sep 14 2001
CHSDCBsh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) GS Software (RSP-JV-M), Version 11.1(9)CA1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE S 
Synced to mainline version: 11.1(9)
Copyright (c) 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 26-Mar-97 22:34 by bellb
Image text-base: 0x60010900, data-base: 0x60A0A000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 5.3.2(3.2) [kmac 3.2], MAINTENANCE INTERIM
SOFTWE
ROM: GS Software (RSP-JV-M), Version 11.1(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

CHSDCB uptime is 4 years, 23 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 26 minutes
System restarted by reload at 19:50:36 UTC Fri Apr 4 1997
System image file is slot0:1119ca.bin, booted via slot0

David Toalson
816-701-4142

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 Subject:  Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]
 
 Hello Guys,
 
 after recovering from the shock of WTC,I just
 remembered that life still has to goes on.
 I have a quest and it is : I am due to appear on an
 interview on Monday 17th Sep., and I have to give a
 presentation on why cisco, and not other competitors.
 I have to be able to convince my interviewers in fine
 english, why(and how) cisco products(old and new),
 protocols,strategy or policy gives cisco an edge over
 other competitors, and therefore places cisco at the
 top most position.
 I have gathered some facts already from cisco's
 website
 and have acquired some knowledge of cisco over the
 years from experience and certifications, but as this
 is a matter of do it well and get the job,or not,I
 thought it was a good idea to share your
 experiences,advice,facts etc,etc.
 I would be very thankful for any input at all.
 Thank you.
 
  chika
 
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More Dual FIFO Stuff [7:19974]

2001-09-14 Thread John Neiberger

I got an answer from the CCO QA Forum but I'm still completely lost. 
  Here is what they said:

With voip, you can enable FRF.12 fragmentation, which sets up a dual
FIFO queue at the interface level. The high priority queue takes in the
PQ traffic from all pvcs, the low priority queue takes in the rest of
the traffic. 

Okay.  I'm not sure what that means.  What the heck does FRF have to do
with dual FIFO queues???  Good grief!  If I configure LLQ, there are
already two queues:  a Priority Queue, with the rest of the traffic
serviced using WFQ.  The PQ must also be a FIFO queue, but what about
the WFQ?

What happens when I already have LLQ configured and then add FRF?  What
exactly is different about the queueing mechanisms?  What happens to the
WFQ?  Does it get converted to a FIFO queue, even though it still shows
up as WFQ in the config?  That wouldn't make any sense.  

I'm wondering if we're dealing with queues inside of queues and that's
where the confusion lies?  Hmmm...

Another engineer at Cisco said he could explain this to me.  Perhaps
I'll send him an email right now.

Regards,
John




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Re: route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Peter Van Oene

The block is 136-144 in the /21 range so you'd be right, though you'd also
be summarizing other addresses which you do not explicitly have connectivity
to.



*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 9/14/2001 at 12:19 PM The New Guy wrote:

A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:

172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??

We both came to the same conclusion:

  ^
172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
  ^

Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
would
be:
172.21.136.0/21

However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I think the
test
from Cisco is wrong, typo or something

Dyland




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Re: Cisco Certified Network Instructor [7:19659]

2001-09-14 Thread SUranjith Ariyapperuma

Thanks for the info Tom, I am going through the fast track program for CCAI.
Requires CCNA, 3 day fast track course and 2 exams

Exams
1.Orientation Multiple choice questioneer
2.Semester 4 instructor lab

If you have more details on the semester 4 lab or the orientation I would
appreciate very much.
Suranjith
CCNA,MCP


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RE: route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread David Goddard

Dyland,

  you're right, it is a typo or something. As a sanity check (probably a BAD
habit) I use the subnet program offered by boson... according to that program:

172.21.134.0/21 = 172.21.128.1 to 172.21.235.254 

while 

172.21.136.0/21 = 172.21.128.1 to 172.21.136.1 to 172.21.143.254

so, I would say that you are right...

hth,
Dave




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RE: route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread David Goddard

Derek... speaking of typo's my email was SUPPOSED to say:

172.21.134.0/21 = 172.21.128.1 to 172.21.135.254 
while 
172.21.136.0/21 = 172.21.136.1 to 172.21.143.254 





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RE: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:19978]

2001-09-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

C'mon, peeps; this isn't getting anywhere. Any serious
political/religious/philosophical/etc discussion sure as hell shouldn't
be taking place on a Cisco Study Group mailing list. Take it outside
already
GM


Is there any chance we can deal with the theological arguments about 
where to place things in the OSI Model -- when that model doesn't 
have a place for them?  It is -not- the Seven Commandments.




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RE: traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread Wilson, Bradley

What you're seeing isn't a problem related to timeouts.  Essentially, all a
trace is is a series of regular ICMP pings with incremening TTL fields.
If a particular router (say, the last hop when your TTL is set to 4) is
configured to not respond to pings, you'll get a timeout.  However, the
routers on either side of it (the ones you hit when your TTL is set to 3 or
5, respectively) may respond to pings normally.  Really nothing you can do
about the one that timed out if it's not under your administrative control.

BJ



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sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
routers that packet is going through?

Regards,
Alex

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RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Cisco wrong? Perish the thought!!! ;-

seeing as 134 is 1110, and is in no way relevant here, I would suggest
that the lazy no good subcontractor that Cisco hired to write / proof / tech
review / whatever is wrong.

welcome to the world of study materials.

best wishes

Chuck

-Original Message-
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The New Guy
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: route summarisation question [7:19970]


A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:

172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??

We both came to the same conclusion:

  ^
172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
  ^

Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
would
be:
172.21.136.0/21

However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I think the test
from Cisco is wrong, typo or something

Dyland




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RE: traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:14 PM 9/14/01, Wilson, Bradley wrote:
What you're seeing isn't a problem related to timeouts.  Essentially, all a
trace is is a series of regular ICMP pings with incremening TTL fields.

Agreed, but just wanted to add that Cisco and Unix send a UDP packet when 
doing traceroute, not a ping. Microsoft sends an ICMP ping.

If a particular router (say, the last hop when your TTL is set to 4) is
configured to not respond to pings, you'll get a timeout.

Only the last device would respond to the ping anyway. But the router could 
be rate limiting TTL exceeded messages or configured not to send them.

Priscilla

However, the
routers on either side of it (the ones you hit when your TTL is set to 3 or
5, respectively) may respond to pings normally.  Really nothing you can do
about the one that timed out if it's not under your administrative control.

BJ



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Subject: traceroute [7:19963]


sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
routers that packet is going through?

Regards,
Alex

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RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

dammit, Leigh Anne, now EVERYONE will know who to blame for any technical
errors they catch! ;-

-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:53 AM
To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The New Guy
Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]


To determine whether the question you have is right or wrong, take
172.21.134.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0.  What range of addresses does
this mask give you?

172.21.128.0 through 172.21.135.255.  Now does that represent the range of
IP addresses you've been asked to summarize?  I think not.

Let's try your answer.  Take 172.21.136.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0.
What range of addresses does that mask give you?

172.21.136.0 through 172.21.143.255.

Does it fit the criteria for the question?  Does it represent  172.21.136.0
and 172.21.143.0?

Chuck's comments about the lazy no good subcontractor is kind of funny,
because he's been an absolutely awesome technical editor for Sybex's new
CCNP exam series...

(-:

  -- Leigh Anne

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 Chuck Larrieu
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]


 Cisco wrong? Perish the thought!!! ;-

 seeing as 134 is 1110, and is in no way relevant here, I would suggest
 that the lazy no good subcontractor that Cisco hired to write /
 proof / tech
 review / whatever is wrong.

 welcome to the world of study materials.

 best wishes

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 The New Guy
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: route summarisation question [7:19970]


 A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
 One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:

 172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??

 We both came to the same conclusion:

   ^
 172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
 172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
   ^

 Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
 would
 be:
 172.21.136.0/21

 However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
 Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I
 think the test
 from Cisco is wrong, typo or something

 Dyland




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RE: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

To determine whether the question you have is right or wrong, take
172.21.134.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0.  What range of addresses does
this mask give you?

172.21.128.0 through 172.21.135.255.  Now does that represent the range of
IP addresses you've been asked to summarize?  I think not.

Let's try your answer.  Take 172.21.136.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0.
What range of addresses does that mask give you?

172.21.136.0 through 172.21.143.255.

Does it fit the criteria for the question?  Does it represent  172.21.136.0
and 172.21.143.0?

Chuck's comments about the lazy no good subcontractor is kind of funny,
because he's been an absolutely awesome technical editor for Sybex's new
CCNP exam series...

(-:

  -- Leigh Anne

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Chuck Larrieu
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]


 Cisco wrong? Perish the thought!!! ;-

 seeing as 134 is 1110, and is in no way relevant here, I would suggest
 that the lazy no good subcontractor that Cisco hired to write /
 proof / tech
 review / whatever is wrong.

 welcome to the world of study materials.

 best wishes

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 The New Guy
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: route summarisation question [7:19970]


 A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
 One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:

 172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??

 We both came to the same conclusion:

   ^
 172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
 172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
   ^

 Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
 would
 be:
 172.21.136.0/21

 However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
 Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I
 think the test
 from Cisco is wrong, typo or something

 Dyland




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Re: route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

Your correct, here is the table and the URL to a neat little subnet
calcuator

http://www.cisco.com/techtools/ip_addr.html

-
IP Class:   B   IP Address:  172.21.134.0
Mask Bits:  5   Subnet Mask: 255.255.248.0
Subnets:30+1IP Major Net:172.21.0.0
Hosts/Subnet:   2046Major Net Bcast: 172.21.255.255

  Subnets for Fixed Length Subnet
Masking
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .
  No. Subnet   HostsHostsBroadcast
  Address  From To   Address

   0  172.21.0.0   172.21.0.1   172.21.7.254
172.21.7.255
   1  172.21.8.0   172.21.8.1   172.21.15.254   
172.21.15.255
   2  172.21.16.0  172.21.16.1  172.21.23.254   
172.21.23.255
   3  172.21.24.0  172.21.24.1  172.21.31.254   
172.21.31.255
   4  172.21.32.0  172.21.32.1  172.21.39.254   
172.21.39.255
   5  172.21.40.0  172.21.40.1  172.21.47.254   
172.21.47.255
   6  172.21.48.0  172.21.48.1  172.21.55.254   
172.21.55.255
   7  172.21.56.0  172.21.56.1  172.21.63.254   
172.21.63.255
   8  172.21.64.0  172.21.64.1  172.21.71.254   
172.21.71.255
   9  172.21.72.0  172.21.72.1  172.21.79.254   
172.21.79.255
  10  172.21.80.0  172.21.80.1  172.21.87.254   
172.21.87.255
  11  172.21.88.0  172.21.88.1  172.21.95.254   
172.21.95.255
  12  172.21.96.0  172.21.96.1  172.21.103.254  
172.21.103.255
  13  172.21.104.0 172.21.104.1 172.21.111.254  
172.21.111.255
  14  172.21.112.0 172.21.112.1 172.21.119.254  
172.21.119.255
  15  172.21.120.0 172.21.120.1 172.21.127.254  
172.21.127.255
  16  172.21.128.0 172.21.128.1 172.21.135.254  
172.21.135.255
  17  172.21.136.0 172.21.136.1 172.21.143.254  
172.21.143.255
  18  172.21.144.0 172.21.144.1 172.21.151.254  
172.21.151.255
  19  172.21.152.0 172.21.152.1 172.21.159.254  
172.21.159.255
  20  172.21.160.0 172.21.160.1 172.21.167.254  
172.21.167.255
  21  172.21.168.0 172.21.168.1 172.21.175.254  
172.21.175.255
  22  172.21.176.0 172.21.176.1 172.21.183.254  
172.21.183.255
  23  172.21.184.0 172.21.184.1 172.21.191.254  
172.21.191.255
  24  172.21.192.0 172.21.192.1 172.21.199.254  
172.21.199.255
  25  172.21.200.0 172.21.200.1 172.21.207.254  
172.21.207.255
  26  172.21.208.0 172.21.208.1 172.21.215.254  
172.21.215.255
  27  172.21.216.0 172.21.216.1 172.21.223.254  
172.21.223.255
  28  172.21.224.0 172.21.224.1 172.21.231.254  
172.21.231.255
  29  172.21.232.0 172.21.232.1 172.21.239.254  
172.21.239.255
  30  172.21.240.0 172.21.240.1 172.21.247.254  
172.21.247.255
  31  172.21.248.0 172.21.248.1 172.21.255.254  
172.21.255.255




The New Guy wrote:
 
 A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
 One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:
 
 172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??
 
 We both came to the same conclusion:
 
   ^
 172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
 172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
   ^
 
 Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
 would
 be:
 172.21.136.0/21
 
 However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
 Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I think the
test
 from Cisco is wrong, typo or something
 
 Dyland
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Re: Interconnecting Netware Server and Workstation... [7:19911]

2001-09-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Is the workstation directly connected to E0 on Router_2? What do you see 
with show int e0? Is it up, up?

Is the workstation actually behind a switch and getting bit by no portfast? 
That's jumping to conclusions, I know, but it's such a common problem

What happens when you try to log into the server? What is the error message 
on the workstation?

Could you manually configure SAP at the workstation? Maybe the auto sense 
encap isn't working.

Can the workstation do anything non-NetWare? For example, can it do an IP 
ping to the routers?

Could you put a sniffer on the workstation? That would tell you what's 
happening.

Please let us know what you find out. I'm collecting Novell troubleshooting 
scenarios!  Thanks. ;-)

Priscilla

At 02:33 AM 9/14/01, you wrote:
Hello,
Am having difficulty being able to log into Netware 4.11 Server from a
workstation.

Setup is this:
Netware 4.11 Server
Tree: LHS
Context: LHS
Encapsulation: Ethernet_802.2
Network:  EBDCB76E

Server is attached to hub which is attached to E0 int on Router_1
We have Windows 2000 Pro Workstation attached to this hub also and can login
to and manage server (everything works on local network).

Router_1
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX network address of EBDCB76E and encapsulation is SAP
int S0 is DCE, clockrate is 56000, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network EBDCB76E
network 10

Router_2
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX net of 20 and encap is SAP
int S1 is DTE, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network 10
network 20

Windows 2000 Pro Workstation is attached to E0 on Router_2 and IPX address
is 20.  Encap is on auto sense with Novell Client 4.8

Now, I can sh ipx servers and see the LHS services.  Also, sh ipx routes and
I have routes established on both routers.

Am I missing something?


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CCSI/CCNI [7:19987]

2001-09-14 Thread sparkest pig

How hard is a CCIE want to become a CCSI or CCNI?

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Fwd: Re: Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-14 Thread Hoa Ngo

I would like too.
Thanks
Howard Ngo

From: Brad Moss 
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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:43:04 -0400

I too would like to be included.
Thanks

Brad Moss CCNA
Network Administrator
CHRISTUS Health System
Paris TX, 75460

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Subject: RE: Cisco PIX [7:19888]


  Hirsch, Herb wrote:
  
   Hi Mike
   Please count me in please, I have access to a CCO
   account.
   Thanks
   Herb
  
   mike johnson wrote in message
  ...
   Hi Everyone,
  
   For those who are interested in learning Cisco PIX but
   do NOT want to spend a lot of money on buying an
   expensive PIX Firewall, I think I can help you. I
   have instructions on how to build a PIX firewall by
   using a PC. In case you didn't know, PIX firewall is
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OT: Fridays funnies [7:19989]

2001-09-14 Thread Natasha

First off I would like to express my sincere condolences to the
families, friends, and fellow colleagues affected in Tuesdays tragedy.
Natasha
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A grandfather and granddaugher were sitting and talking when the young
girl asked, Did God make you, Grandpa? 
Yes, God made me, the grandfather answered. 
A few minutes later, the little girl asked him, Did God make me too? 
Yes, He did, the older man answered. 
For a few minutes, the little girl seemed to be studying her grandpa, as
well as her own reflection in the mirror, while her grandfather wondered
what was running through her mind. At last she spoke up. 

You know, Grandpa, she said, God's doing a lot better job lately. 

A man was getting a haircut prior to a trip to Rome. He mentioned the
trip to the barber who responded, Rome? Why would anyone want to
go there? It's crowded and dirty and far away. You're crazy to go to
Rome. So, how are you getting there? 

We're taking TWA, was the reply. We got a great rate! 

TWA? exclaimed the barber. That's a terrible airline. Their planes
are
old, their flight attendants are ugly, and they're always late. So,
where
are you staying in Rome? 

We'll be at the downtown International Marriott. 

That dump! That's the worst hotel in the city. The rooms are small, the
service is surly and they're overpriced. So, whatcha doing when you
get there? 

We're going to go to see the Vatican and we hope to see the Pope. 

That's rich, laughed the barber. You and a million other people
trying
to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy, good luck on this lousy
trip of yours. You're going to need it. 

A month later, the man again came in for his regular haircut. The
barber asked him about his trip to Rome. 

It was wonderful, explained the man, not only were we on time in
one of TWA's brand new planes, but it was overbooked and they
bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I
had a beautiful 28 year old stewardess who waited on me hand and
foot. And the hotel - it was great! They'd just finished a $25 million
remodeling job and now it's the finest hotel in the city. They, too,
were
overbooked, so they apologized and gave us the presidential suite at
no extra charge! 

Well, muttered the barber, I know you didn't get to see the Pope. 

Actually, we were quite lucky, for as we toured the Vatican, a Swiss
Guard tapped me on the shoulder and explained that the Pope likes to
personally meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step
into his private room and wait, the pope would personally greet me.
Sure enough, five minutes later the Pope walked through the door and
shook my hand! I knelt down as he spoke a few words to me. 

Really? asked the Barber. What'd he say? 

He said, Where'd you get the lousy haircut? 
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RE: traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread Wilson, Bradley

So would the missing hop syndrome be caused by a router or firewall which
is filtering any and all UDP packets (which a good portion of them are)?



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At 01:14 PM 9/14/01, Wilson, Bradley wrote:
What you're seeing isn't a problem related to timeouts.  Essentially, all a
trace is is a series of regular ICMP pings with incremening TTL fields.

Agreed, but just wanted to add that Cisco and Unix send a UDP packet when 
doing traceroute, not a ping. Microsoft sends an ICMP ping.

If a particular router (say, the last hop when your TTL is set to 4) is
configured to not respond to pings, you'll get a timeout.

Only the last device would respond to the ping anyway. But the router could 
be rate limiting TTL exceeded messages or configured not to send them.

Priscilla

However, the
routers on either side of it (the ones you hit when your TTL is set to 3 or
5, respectively) may respond to pings normally.  Really nothing you can do
about the one that timed out if it's not under your administrative control.

BJ



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sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
routers that packet is going through?

Regards,
Alex

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RE: route summarisation question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Yeah, and good luck sneaking this thing into any Cisco cert test or the Lab.
:-)

(Now I've got this mental image of someone swallowing a condom with a
rolled-up slip of paper in it... ;-)



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Your correct, here is the table and the URL to a neat little subnet
calcuator

http://www.cisco.com/techtools/ip_addr.html


-
IP Class:   B   IP Address:  172.21.134.0
Mask Bits:  5   Subnet Mask: 255.255.248.0
Subnets:30+1IP Major Net:172.21.0.0
Hosts/Subnet:   2046Major Net Bcast: 172.21.255.255

  Subnets for Fixed Length Subnet
Masking
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . .
  No. Subnet   HostsHostsBroadcast
  Address  From To   Address

   0  172.21.0.0   172.21.0.1   172.21.7.254
172.21.7.255
   1  172.21.8.0   172.21.8.1   172.21.15.254   
172.21.15.255
   2  172.21.16.0  172.21.16.1  172.21.23.254   
172.21.23.255
   3  172.21.24.0  172.21.24.1  172.21.31.254   
172.21.31.255
   4  172.21.32.0  172.21.32.1  172.21.39.254   
172.21.39.255
   5  172.21.40.0  172.21.40.1  172.21.47.254   
172.21.47.255
   6  172.21.48.0  172.21.48.1  172.21.55.254   
172.21.55.255
   7  172.21.56.0  172.21.56.1  172.21.63.254   
172.21.63.255
   8  172.21.64.0  172.21.64.1  172.21.71.254   
172.21.71.255
   9  172.21.72.0  172.21.72.1  172.21.79.254   
172.21.79.255
  10  172.21.80.0  172.21.80.1  172.21.87.254   
172.21.87.255
  11  172.21.88.0  172.21.88.1  172.21.95.254   
172.21.95.255
  12  172.21.96.0  172.21.96.1  172.21.103.254  
172.21.103.255
  13  172.21.104.0 172.21.104.1 172.21.111.254  
172.21.111.255
  14  172.21.112.0 172.21.112.1 172.21.119.254  
172.21.119.255
  15  172.21.120.0 172.21.120.1 172.21.127.254  
172.21.127.255
  16  172.21.128.0 172.21.128.1 172.21.135.254  
172.21.135.255
  17  172.21.136.0 172.21.136.1 172.21.143.254  
172.21.143.255
  18  172.21.144.0 172.21.144.1 172.21.151.254  
172.21.151.255
  19  172.21.152.0 172.21.152.1 172.21.159.254  
172.21.159.255
  20  172.21.160.0 172.21.160.1 172.21.167.254  
172.21.167.255
  21  172.21.168.0 172.21.168.1 172.21.175.254  
172.21.175.255
  22  172.21.176.0 172.21.176.1 172.21.183.254  
172.21.183.255
  23  172.21.184.0 172.21.184.1 172.21.191.254  
172.21.191.255
  24  172.21.192.0 172.21.192.1 172.21.199.254  
172.21.199.255
  25  172.21.200.0 172.21.200.1 172.21.207.254  
172.21.207.255
  26  172.21.208.0 172.21.208.1 172.21.215.254  
172.21.215.255
  27  172.21.216.0 172.21.216.1 172.21.223.254  
172.21.223.255
  28  172.21.224.0 172.21.224.1 172.21.231.254  
172.21.231.255
  29  172.21.232.0 172.21.232.1 172.21.239.254  
172.21.239.255
  30  172.21.240.0 172.21.240.1 172.21.247.254  
172.21.247.255
  31  172.21.248.0 172.21.248.1 172.21.255.254  
172.21.255.255




The New Guy wrote:
 
 A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
 One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:
 
 172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??
 
 We both came to the same conclusion:
 
   ^
 172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
 172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
   ^
 
 Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized address
 would
 be:
 172.21.136.0/21
 
 However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
 Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I think the
test
 from Cisco is wrong, typo or something
 
 Dyland
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T1 back to Back [7:19992]

2001-09-14 Thread Hoa Ngo

Hi! Everyone,
I have 2 2611 with WIC-1DSU-T1 on each. I made the T1 back to back cable. I 
have trouble to bring up the serial interface. Can someone give me 
instruction or send me the config? Many thanks.
Howard


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The new blueprints are in...(wallpaper) [7:19991]

2001-09-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Design question [7:19993]

2001-09-14 Thread khramov

I've got 2 5505 at the core of the network.  Then I've got anywhere from
twenty to twenty five routers and about the same number of switches at
the distribution and access layers of the network.  One of the 5505 has
blade with 8 gigabit ports, all the other port are 100 MbBaseFx.
Original design was very messy.  It had VLANs implemented but half of
the network was in the management vlan.
Shortly I am planning on redesigning some staff.  I want to put all the
routers and switches in the management VLAN.  Dedicate a gigabit link
for a server farm.  I also want ot put all the bandwidth intensive
networks on gigabit backbone.
One thing that I am not sure about is how to configure my 5505.  Would I
want to implement HSRP on 5505, that would offer redundancy, however, it
does not offer load balancing.  Another idea that I was thinking about
is implementing Spanning tree per vlan and configure access layer
switches to run two vlans.
Would you please give me some ideas on what I should do?
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Alex

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CIT passed - CCNP done! [7:19994]

2001-09-14 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi all,

Passed CIT today with an 895 to finish off my CCNP.
Dropped just below my target of 900 for all the exams, but I've been rushed
into this one a little as our company needs the CCNP by next week for Gold
Partner. (Did BCRAN last Tuesday).
I now feel like I've forgotten something if I don't have a book in my hand.

The Cisco Press books have got me through it, with a few Boson exams when
time permitted.
Not sure where to go next - possibly CCDP, possibly Security specialisation,
possibly CCIE written.
Possibly to the pub first before I attack another book.

Thanks to everyone for a great study group which always inspires.

Gaz




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RE: traceroute [7:19963]

2001-09-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:36 PM 9/14/01, Wilson, Bradley wrote:
So would the missing hop syndrome be caused by a router or firewall which
is filtering any and all UDP packets (which a good portion of them are)?

UDP or Ping are not relevant until you get to the final destination. The IP 
datagrams don't make it past the IP layer at the intermediate hops because 
the IP router decrements the TTL, drops the packet, and sends ICMP TTL 
exceeded.

The missing hops could be because ICMP TTL exceeded is rate limited or 
filtered. Some service providers purposely don't send these to hide some of 
their internal hops.

Gotta run.

Priscilla





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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: traceroute [7:19963]


At 01:14 PM 9/14/01, Wilson, Bradley wrote:
 What you're seeing isn't a problem related to timeouts.  Essentially, all
a
 trace is is a series of regular ICMP pings with incremening TTL fields.

Agreed, but just wanted to add that Cisco and Unix send a UDP packet when
doing traceroute, not a ping. Microsoft sends an ICMP ping.

 If a particular router (say, the last hop when your TTL is set to 4) is
 configured to not respond to pings, you'll get a timeout.

Only the last device would respond to the ping anyway. But the router could
be rate limiting TTL exceeded messages or configured not to send them.

Priscilla

 However, the
 routers on either side of it (the ones you hit when your TTL is set to 3
or
 5, respectively) may respond to pings normally.  Really nothing you can do
 about the one that timed out if it's not under your administrative
control.
 
 BJ
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: khramov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: traceroute [7:19963]
 
 
 sometimes when I do a traceroute it skeeps some routers.  Is there any
 way to adjusst time out or something to get traceroute to show all the
 routers that packet is going through?
 
 Regards,
 Alex
 
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Ugly Access Lists [7:19996]

2001-09-14 Thread John Neiberger

I just had to write the ugliest access list I've ever personally
configured.  I had to allow the following traffic:

-  First octet must be 10
-  Second octect can be anything
-  Third octect must start with 200
-  Fourth octet must be in the .32 subnet, assuming a /27 mask length.

Using a single permit statement, how would you write this?  I know how
I did it, but for those of you needing some access list practice (and
who actually feel like doing this sort of exercise at this time), I'd
like to see how you would do it.

Regards,
John




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OT: Friday Funnies (Tech with a Twist) [7:19997]

2001-09-14 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I've asked Natasha to send this (1 - so that people wouldn't know it was
from me) and (2 - because I hate cluttering the list with OT posts).
However, she's likely just forgotten...  and in the spirit of everyone
needing a little laughter back in their lives, I've decided to post it.
This one is dedicated to all those true techies out there...

Uh-hem .

Hangin' out in a bar...

I was hanging out in a SCSI bar.  A loud bandwidth played in the corner.

I gave the place a binary search.  I saw a little chip in the corner.  She
SIMMed like a pro.  I traversed over to her.

She pressed her Apples against me.  Hey, Mac, do you have a hard drive?

No, only a floppy, I replied.

Well, then you need an Amiga, she said.

Vi?

Well, if I was your Amiga, we could interface.

We went to a motel on a VESA local bus.

The motel was SCSI-2.  It needed to be debugged.

So, how much is this going to cost me?  I queried.

She added it up right away.  She had a mind like a...like a She could
add really fast.

She stripped her binaries.  It was quite a procedure.

I'm going to turn your software into hardware, she transmitted.

She started to spreadsheet.

So, are you ready to RAM? she called.

I had been auditing everything.  I sent a signal. It was time for the trap.

All the agents burst through the gateway.  My manager was with them.

Awk!  It's a RAID! she said.

Don't arrest me!  I'm a motherboard!  How will I explain this to my Sun?

The agents were not responding.  They got ready to stop her process.

She was getting desperate.  Hey, I could do a favor for all of you.  I'm
fully multitasking.

It didn't work.  We're all UNIX.




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RE: Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-14 Thread C J

Hello Mike,

Could you also provide me the PIX instructions.

Thanks


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RE: Cisco PIX [7:19888]

2001-09-14 Thread C J

Mike,

Pls. provide me with the PIX firewall information.  My email is attached to
this msg.

Thanks,


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RE: Ugly Access Lists [7:19996]

2001-09-14 Thread Jim Brown

10.0.200.32 mask 0.255.0.15

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ugly Access Lists [7:19996]


I just had to write the ugliest access list I've ever personally
configured.  I had to allow the following traffic:

-  First octet must be 10
-  Second octect can be anything
-  Third octect must start with 200
-  Fourth octet must be in the .32 subnet, assuming a /27 mask length.

Using a single permit statement, how would you write this?  I know how
I did it, but for those of you needing some access list practice (and
who actually feel like doing this sort of exercise at this time), I'd
like to see how you would do it.

Regards,
John




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Re: CIT passed - CCNP done! [7:19994]

2001-09-14 Thread Eric F. Varner

WTG and Congrats!

I take my CID tonight...wish me luck. ;)

-Eric Varner
Bell Network Services
MCNE, CCDA, CCNP


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To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: CIT passed - CCNP done! [7:19994]


 Hi all,

 Passed CIT today with an 895 to finish off my CCNP.
 Dropped just below my target of 900 for all the exams, but I've been
rushed
 into this one a little as our company needs the CCNP by next week for Gold
 Partner. (Did BCRAN last Tuesday).
 I now feel like I've forgotten something if I don't have a book in my
hand.

 The Cisco Press books have got me through it, with a few Boson exams when
 time permitted.
 Not sure where to go next - possibly CCDP, possibly Security
specialisation,
 possibly CCIE written.
 Possibly to the pub first before I attack another book.

 Thanks to everyone for a great study group which always inspires.

 Gaz




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Loopback Address scheme (long) [7:20002]

2001-09-14 Thread COULOMBE, TROY

Alright gang,

Usually I just lurk.  However, for those of you doing support for networks,
I would like to know (sample) your loopback address scheme.  We have a Hub 
spoke network, with our core network consisting of core services (server
farm, etc) and our two WAN routers.  Off these WAN routers are our regions
(and off them branches).  Currently there is little redundancy (as far as it
being meshed--we have redundant links/isdn backup, etc).  We are a purely
OSPF shop. 

So, Core/WAN is Area 0.0.0.0  Regions/Branches are areas x.x.x.x (Each
(region and their branches) are separate areas...)   However, due to
transitions, summarization is not practical (things have moved within the
corp.)

Thoughts on BEST PRACTICE of loopback addressing???  Should I take a /32
from within the major network of each region/branch  use that, or should I
use one class C (and /32 that) and just spread it amongst the sites?  Also,
take into consideration that we are moving towards a more partial meshed
network.

Confused?  See examples below

Core network:
10.1.0.0 /16 (summarized)
10.1.1.0 /24 (server farm)
Region 1
10.32.0.0 /16 (not summarized)
10.32.1.0 /24 (local net 1)
Branch 1
10.32.1.0 /24 (local net)
Branch 2
10.32.2.0 /24 (local net)
Region 2
10.44.0.0 /16 (not summarized--but in general this is the major
network we are going to)
10.44.1.0 /24 (local net 1)
10.44.2.0 /24 (local net 2)
Branch 1
10.32.7.0 /24 (local net)  see can't summarize above due
to discontiguous nets ;- 
Branch 2
10.44.217.0 /24 (local net)
==
so solution #1 would be

core network devices use addresses (like)
10.1.2.2 /32  (using a new network here)
10.1.2.3 /32  (using a new network here)
etc etc.
Region 1
10.32.2.2 /32 (using a new network here)
10.32.2.3 /32 (using a new network here)
Branch 1
10.32.3.2 /32 (using a new network here)
Branch 2
10.32.4.2 /32 (using a new network here)
Region 2
10.44.3.2 /32  (using a new network here)
10.44.3.3 /32  (using a new network here)
Branch 1
10.32.8.2 /32  (using a new network here)
Branch 2
10.44.218.2 /32 (using a new network here)
==
or solution #2 would be using ONE loopback network...

core network devices use addresses (like)
10.99.99.2 /32
10.99.99.3 /32
etc etc.
Region 1
10.99.99.4 /32
10.99.99.5 /32
Branch 1
10.99.99.6 /32
Branch 2
10.99.99.7 /32
Region 2
10.99.99.8 /32
10.99.99.9 /32
Branch 1
10.99.99.10 /32
Branch 2
10.99.99.11 /32
==


and maybe I am just sweating the small stuff  it really doesn't
matter...just pondering it, because quite truthfully, I seem to only do
HubSpoke OSPF networks...all my mesh/part. mesh networks were EIGRP...

and I figured I'd share this as it might also be a prob/solution that get
peoples minds on off the tragedy.

TroyC
-=-=-=-
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.
  ---RFC 1925




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DLSW+ QOS [7:20003]

2001-09-14 Thread ciscosys @hotmail.com

How does QOS work when used on your WAN links, does it wait until the link
is degrading before executing and if so, how does it compute this?

For instance, I know that telnet and ftp are quite high from via sniffer. 
Is it feasible to implement a QOS to conserve my bandwidth for my critical
applications now, or wait unlit people yell.

Can I turn it on to protect bandwidth utilization and if so what flavor
would you recommend.  Particularly for SNA/STUN.

Thanks in Advance.


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RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [7:3336]

2001-09-14 Thread Paul Holloway

BRAVO!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Raymond Thomas
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


I don't know what is going on with Taliban and if Afghans support them? I
have family there, and family that used to be alive before they came to
power. I know exactly what is going on because we get messages relayed to us
from family that seek refuge in Pakistan, regarding others that live in
Afghanistan. Let me put it in the simplest way, make believe Hitler took
over France... the French are now ruled by the Nazi's and need to abide by
their rules or they will die. The Talibans are the Nazi's in this case, and
the French are the Afghans. Simple and clear now? Many Afghans will cheer
the bombing of the Afghan government, the only downside is that there is
always innocent people that will be in the line of fire and will die as
well. GO USA!

From Rahmeen!

Raymond Thomas
Vice President
Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
646-526-6171 cell



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


I don't find it very surprising that someone named Osama Bin Zia can't have
an understanding of what Raymond is trying to say.  The point is that the
evidence will come to light and we will make anyone or country associated
with this pay a big price.  I would suggest to you that you keep your head
down and your mouth shut.  USA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Osama Bin Zia
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


Well,

Now I disagree with you Raymond. As a human I feel sorry for the people who
have died in the incident. But what I believe is that assumptions should not
be the base to bomb somebody or country. This is terrorsim itself. Who knows
people in Afghanistan like Taliban or not, certainly not you and not the
people in CNN and BBC etc. Who knows if they are responsible for all this
act or not. Killing those people is exactly similar to killing people in
WTC. Then what's the difference.
It has to be found out who is responsible for this act? If you have time to
see this link I think this may help.
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm

- Original Message -
From: Raymond Thomas
To:
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


 Thank you James and everyone else that wrote me all the personal emails
 since this thread. I want to thank everyone for understanding and having
and
 open heart and mind to understand that there are good and evil in all of
 society. Most of us need to be educated on the history of the countries
 being mentioned in the news since this catastrophic event before judging
the
 people as a whole. Most people didn't even know where Afghanistan was
 located geographically on the globe and didn't know that Afghans are being
 RULED by the Talibans and NOT supporting them. I lost many family members
in
 our country due to them and there is nothing more that I would like to see
 than the US and NATO forces to bomb the hell out of them.

 Sincerely,

 Raymond Thomas
 Vice President
 Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
 516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
 646-526-6171 cell



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 James Haynes
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]


 Eloquently stated Raymond. God Bless you and your family. As posted here,
so
 many people have tragic tales to tell. Mine is brighter picture. My sister
 who was at ground-zero made it out alive and is now at home with me. It
was
 such a frantic time of uncertainty for my family it pains me to know
others
 have gone through the same thing and are still living with the same
 uncertainty. Kind souls such as yourself are a welcome relief to hear at a
 time like this. My heart goes out to all people living through this
 nightmare.

 --
 James Haynes
 Network Architect
 Cendant IT
 A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
 CQS-SNA/IPSS

 Raymond Thomas  wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was asked where I was born since I am citizen not born in the US so
here
  it goes. This will be a long email... and if there are many ignorant
 people
  on this board, then I don't mind not seeing their resumes anymore.
Please
  read the whole thing and read between the lines if you can, and there
  shouldn't be a reason for flames if you do so.
 
  I was born in Afghanistan in 1977, making me 24 yrs. old (recruiting for
4
  1/2 

RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:20005]

2001-09-14 Thread Mark Smith

I might say the same thing to you.
Our American hearts go out to you. You'll pull through Gareth.
You always do.  :)

Mark Smith



PS: Thanks for the kind words.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gareth Hinton
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
[7:19889]




I have no answers,




Which is especially unfortunate as I have a CIT exam in 9 hours.



Our British hearts go out to the people of the US during these terrible
times.
You'll pull through, you always do.







Curtis Phillips  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I am curious if our non-American friend would attempt to defend the
British
 government and their history of foriegn
 policy?
 - Original Message -
 From: A non-American
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:20 PM
 Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
 [7:19805]


  Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of
death
 or
  life imprisonment ?
 
  The facts as I see them are -
 
  A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they
received.
 My
  heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to
 help!
 
  B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world
  retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than
 knee-jerk.
  Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to
assume
  that they are less intelligent than yourselves.
 
  C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US
 government
  for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been
 spilt
  by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your
  attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against
 these
  people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody
 else
  out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find
these
  people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the
same
  time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for
tat
  mess Israel is in...
 
  I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and
  semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not
to
  mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion.
The
  level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US
is
  disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty
good
  idea.
 
  Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the
 news
  from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while.
 
  A non-American
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Fenech, William J
  Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance'
  [7:19699]
 
 
  Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The
people
  who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be
  exterminated, pure and simple.




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RE: Loopback Address scheme (long) [7:20002]

2001-09-14 Thread Chuck Larrieu

first question - do you need to advertise the loopbacks for any reason. ( I
know what Cisco says in the training materials, but in fact there may not be
reason to advertise them, and therefore numbering may not matter. )

second question - seeing as Cisco uses loopbacks as the source of RIDs (
router i.d.'s ), which do have significance in a network in some cases,
would you benefit from having a consistent architecture with regards to your
RID's?

In general, good practice would say to use something that could be
summarized out of the router, or at least out of the
area/level/region/whatever. Problem is that using anything from within your
inside block does take up at least an IP address, if not a subnet, depending
upon how you do it.

In my darker moments, I have considered that I may want some kind of
consistent numbering scheme for loopbacks that 1) uniquely identifies that
address as being a loopback address and 2) allows me to easily use that
number to identify the router where is resides.

just a couple of cents.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
COULOMBE, TROY
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Loopback Address scheme (long) [7:20002]


Alright gang,

Usually I just lurk.  However, for those of you doing support for networks,
I would like to know (sample) your loopback address scheme.  We have a Hub 
spoke network, with our core network consisting of core services (server
farm, etc) and our two WAN routers.  Off these WAN routers are our regions
(and off them branches).  Currently there is little redundancy (as far as it
being meshed--we have redundant links/isdn backup, etc).  We are a purely
OSPF shop.

So, Core/WAN is Area 0.0.0.0  Regions/Branches are areas x.x.x.x (Each
(region and their branches) are separate areas...)   However, due to
transitions, summarization is not practical (things have moved within the
corp.)

Thoughts on BEST PRACTICE of loopback addressing???  Should I take a /32
from within the major network of each region/branch  use that, or should I
use one class C (and /32 that) and just spread it amongst the sites?  Also,
take into consideration that we are moving towards a more partial meshed
network.

Confused?  See examples below

Core network:
10.1.0.0 /16 (summarized)
10.1.1.0 /24 (server farm)
Region 1
10.32.0.0 /16 (not summarized)
10.32.1.0 /24 (local net 1)
Branch 1
10.32.1.0 /24 (local net)
Branch 2
10.32.2.0 /24 (local net)
Region 2
10.44.0.0 /16 (not summarized--but in general this is the major
network we are going to)
10.44.1.0 /24 (local net 1)
10.44.2.0 /24 (local net 2)
Branch 1
10.32.7.0 /24 (local net)  see can't summarize above due
to discontiguous nets ;- 
Branch 2
10.44.217.0 /24 (local net)
==
so solution #1 would be

core network devices use addresses (like)
10.1.2.2 /32  (using a new network here)
10.1.2.3 /32  (using a new network here)
etc etc.
Region 1
10.32.2.2 /32 (using a new network here)
10.32.2.3 /32 (using a new network here)
Branch 1
10.32.3.2 /32 (using a new network here)
Branch 2
10.32.4.2 /32 (using a new network here)
Region 2
10.44.3.2 /32  (using a new network here)
10.44.3.3 /32  (using a new network here)
Branch 1
10.32.8.2 /32  (using a new network here)
Branch 2
10.44.218.2 /32 (using a new network here)
==
or solution #2 would be using ONE loopback network...

core network devices use addresses (like)
10.99.99.2 /32
10.99.99.3 /32
etc etc.
Region 1
10.99.99.4 /32
10.99.99.5 /32
Branch 1
10.99.99.6 /32
Branch 2
10.99.99.7 /32
Region 2
10.99.99.8 /32
10.99.99.9 /32
Branch 1
10.99.99.10 /32
Branch 2
10.99.99.11 /32
==


and maybe I am just sweating the small stuff  it really doesn't
matter...just pondering it, because quite truthfully, I seem to only do
HubSpoke OSPF networks...all my mesh/part. mesh networks were EIGRP...

and I figured I'd share this as it might also be a prob/solution that get
peoples minds on off the tragedy.

TroyC
-=-=-=-
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.
  ---RFC 1925




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Re: Design question [7:19993]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

I'm assuming you have RSM's in the 5505's.  Actually you can load
balance using HSRP by defining two groups and have half of your hosts
default to the active HSRP address of RSM1 and the other half to active
HSRP address on RSM2 of same VLAN.

  In the scenerio you describe though I have set up VLANS on RSMs, RSM1
active for even VLANs and RSM2 active for odd VLANs, each RSM backs up
the other via HSRP.  In the closet if you have more than 1 VLAN you set
up a trunk to each switch, even VLANs forwarding to the switch routing
the even VLANs and the inverse for the odd VLANs.  Set up a trunk or
ethercahnnel between the 5500's and make sure they are you root.

  This way you have redundancy and load balancing and I know it works:)

  Dave

khramov wrote:
 
 I've got 2 5505 at the core of the network.  Then I've got anywhere from
 twenty to twenty five routers and about the same number of switches at
 the distribution and access layers of the network.  One of the 5505 has
 blade with 8 gigabit ports, all the other port are 100 MbBaseFx.
 Original design was very messy.  It had VLANs implemented but half of
 the network was in the management vlan.
 Shortly I am planning on redesigning some staff.  I want to put all the
 routers and switches in the management VLAN.  Dedicate a gigabit link
 for a server farm.  I also want ot put all the bandwidth intensive
 networks on gigabit backbone.
 One thing that I am not sure about is how to configure my 5505.  Would I
 want to implement HSRP on 5505, that would offer redundancy, however, it
 does not offer load balancing.  Another idea that I was thinking about
 is implementing Spanning tree per vlan and configure access layer
 switches to run two vlans.
 Would you please give me some ideas on what I should do?
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Regards,
 Alex
 
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Re: T1 back to Back [7:19992]

2001-09-14 Thread MADMAN

CSU on one side need to clock from the network, the other internal,
one serial interface needs to provide clock, if you have access to Cisco
here you go:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/116/t1_back_to_back.html

Dave


Hoa Ngo wrote:
 
 Hi! Everyone,
 I have 2 2611 with WIC-1DSU-T1 on each. I made the T1 back to back cable. I
 have trouble to bring up the serial interface. Can someone give me
 instruction or send me the config? Many thanks.
 Howard
 
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Re: Cisco Certified Network Instructor [7:19659]

2001-09-14 Thread Tom Lisa

Yes, I had forgotten about the fast-track program.  The skills based exam
is pass/fail and is on the same level as that which you will be giving your
students at the end of the semester.  It will require you to configure a
router(s) to implement one or more of the WAN technologies covered
in Semester 4.  Obviously, I can't tell you more than that.

Good Luck,

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

SUranjith Ariyapperuma wrote:

 Thanks for the info Tom, I am going through the fast track program for
CCAI.
 Requires CCNA, 3 day fast track course and 2 exams

 Exams
 1.Orientation Multiple choice questioneer
 2.Semester 4 instructor lab

 If you have more details on the semester 4 lab or the orientation I would
 appreciate very much.
 Suranjith
 CCNA,MCP




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Re: OT: Friday Funnies (Tech with a Twist) [7:19997]

2001-09-14 Thread Nigel Taylor

Leigh Anne,

Pretty Cool.  I must say that the last few days have been
tough, for everyone I'm sure.  I just glad my sister never made it to
work on time(she worked on the 83rd floor, tower 1).  God is Good... 

Nigel.

rom: Leigh Anne Chisholm

Reply-To: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:
Friday Funnies (Tech with a Twist) [7:19997] Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001
15:03:58 -0400  I've asked Natasha to send this (1 - so that people
wouldn't know it was from me) and (2 - because I hate cluttering the
list with OT posts). However, she's likely just forgotten... and in the
spirit of everyone needing a little laughter back in their lives, I've
decided to post it. This one is dedicated to all those true techies out
there...  Uh-hem .  Hangin' out in a bar...  I was hanging out in a
SCSI bar. A loud bandwidth played in the corner.  I gave the place a
binary search. I saw a little chip in the corner. She SIMMed like a pro.
I traversed over to her.  She pressed her Apples against me. Hey, Mac,
do you have a hard drive?  No, only a floppy, I replied.  Well,
then you need an Amiga, she said.  Vi?  Well, if I was your
Amiga, we could interface.  We went to a motel on a VESA local bus. 
The motel was SCSI-2. It needed to be debugged.  So, how much is this
going to cost me? I queried.  She added it up right away. She had a
mind like a...like a She could add really fast.  She stripped her
binaries. It was quite a procedure.  I'm going to turn your software
into hardware, she transmitted.  She started to spreadsheet.  So,
are you ready to RAM? she called.  I had been auditing everything. I
sent a signal. It was time for the trap.  All the agents burst through
the gateway. My manager was with them.  Awk! It's a RAID! she said. 
Don't arrest me! I'm a motherboard! How will I explain this to my Sun?
 The agents were not responding. They got ready to stop her process. 
She was getting desperate. Hey, I could do a favor for all of you. I'm
fully multitasking.  It didn't work. We're all UNIX. Message
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Re: Ugly Access Lists [7:19996]

2001-09-14 Thread Gareth Hinton

You're having a laugh. Is that a Friday Funny? Who wanted that done? Why?

Using the - Cheat, do it in your head, get it terribly wrong method:

access list 101 permit ip any 10.0.200.32  0.255.55.31

Too many beers in to Friday night to check it, or even think about it. I'll
regret posting this tomorrow.

Gaz


John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 I just had to write the ugliest access list I've ever personally
 configured.  I had to allow the following traffic:

 -  First octet must be 10
 -  Second octect can be anything
 -  Third octect must start with 200
 -  Fourth octet must be in the .32 subnet, assuming a /27 mask length.

 Using a single permit statement, how would you write this?  I know how
 I did it, but for those of you needing some access list practice (and
 who actually feel like doing this sort of exercise at this time), I'd
 like to see how you would do it.

 Regards,
 John




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Re: route summarization question [7:19970]

2001-09-14 Thread EA Louie

cat's outta da bag now.  but i'm sure your name will be there (Technical
Editor, Chuck Larrieu, CCIE 82**) on the front of every text.

;-)

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From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]


 dammit, Leigh Anne, now EVERYONE will know who to blame for any technical
 errors they catch! ;-

 -Original Message-
 From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:53 AM
 To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The New Guy
 Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]


 To determine whether the question you have is right or wrong, take
 172.21.134.0 and apply the mask 255.255.248.0.  What range of addresses
does
 this mask give you?

 172.21.128.0 through 172.21.135.255.  Now does that represent the range of
 IP addresses you've been asked to summarize?  I think not.

 Let's try your answer.  Take 172.21.136.0 and apply the mask
255.255.248.0.
 What range of addresses does that mask give you?

 172.21.136.0 through 172.21.143.255.

 Does it fit the criteria for the question?  Does it represent
172.21.136.0
 and 172.21.143.0?

 Chuck's comments about the lazy no good subcontractor is kind of funny,
 because he's been an absolutely awesome technical editor for Sybex's new
 CCNP exam series...

 (-:

   -- Leigh Anne

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chuck Larrieu
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:24 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: route summarization question [7:19970]
 
 
  Cisco wrong? Perish the thought!!! ;-
 
  seeing as 134 is 1110, and is in no way relevant here, I would
suggest
  that the lazy no good subcontractor that Cisco hired to write /
  proof / tech
  review / whatever is wrong.
 
  welcome to the world of study materials.
 
  best wishes
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  The New Guy
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:19 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: route summarisation question [7:19970]
 
 
  A buddy and I are currently preparing for the BSCN exam.
  One of the review questions involving route summarization is as follows:
 
  172.21.136.0/24 and 172.21.143.0/24 can be summarized as: ??
 
  We both came to the same conclusion:
 
^
  172.21.136.0 - 10101100.00010101.10001000.
  172.21.143.0 - 10101100.00010101.1000.
^
 
  Both addresses have the first 20 bits in common so the summarized
address
  would
  be:
  172.21.136.0/21
 
  However, Cisco says the answer is 172.21.134.0/21
  Can someone please confirm we summarized this route right.  I
  think the test
  from Cisco is wrong, typo or something
 
  Dyland
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