Re: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

I can almost guarantee they aren't real questions.  On question 4, he has a
blank spot of where a chart or graphic should have been.  They were cut and
pasted from somewhere into his message.

I wouldn't about the NDA in this case.


""Ali, Abbas""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sorry guys,
>
> I just got carried away.  I always respected Cisco's NDA.  I just didn't
> think that were the real questions since they were so long.  In my
previous
> groups I always raised the issue of NDA when some people tried to violate.
>
> IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
>
> Regards,
>
> Abbas
>
> -Original Message-
> From: james mensah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:32 AM
> To: Ali, Abbas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]
>
>
> Abbas are you new to this group and do you have some respect for Cisco NDA
> and for that matter ethics? Watch out Cisco is about to get you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ali,
> Abbas
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]
>
> Sorry to hear that.  Here is what I think the answers would be.
>
> Q1) B
> Q2) B
> Q3) Definetly A, could also include B if multiple choice.
> Q4) AB
> Q5) Don't know.
> Q6) BC
> Q7)
> Q8)
> Q9) D
> Q10)
> Q11)B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yang Jun (Ike Yang) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]
>
>
> Dear CCIEs,
>
> I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
> but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the
correct
> answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!
>
>   1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
> release?
>
>
> A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
> time, but only one data frame is allowed.
>
> B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
> given time, but only one token is allowed.
>
> C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
> circulate the ring at any given time.
>
> D. A station releases a free token after stripping the
frame
> from the ring
>
> E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a
token
> to be released from its neighbor.
>
>
>
> 2.What is the best description of poison reverse?
>
>
>
> A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
> the OSPF area.
>
> B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising
the
> bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
> cost.
>
> C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
> interface it was received on.
>
> The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with
a
> metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.
>
>
>
> 3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
> answer)
>
>
> A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.
>
> B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and
receiver
> to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.
>
> C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to
more
> than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.
>
> D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.
>
>
>
> 4.Examine the following:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are
valid?
> (multiple answer)
>
>
>
> A. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
>
>
> B. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 2
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> C. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> D. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> 5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
> design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
> configurations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A. No changes are necessary.
>
> B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
> area 0.
>
> C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
> installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.
>
> D. Router B could be configured as an Area Borde

Re: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Gregg Malcolm

I usually don't waste my time on these kind of questions, but couldn't
resist this one.  It's appears that you have a very good memory but are
completely wasting it.  Even if you manage to pass the written, you have
virtually no chance of passing the lab with an attitude like this.  In order
to pass the lab you must be diligent in working thru issues, thinking of
ways to make something work that appears impossible.  Only then do you
consider asking for help. You seem to remember some of the stuff that you
may have seen, but make no attempt to figure it out on your own.  No to
mention appearing to break the NDA that  you agreed to.  Sorry if this
sounds harsh, but in my mind, you are asking for it.







""Yang Jun (Ike Yang)""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear CCIEs,
>
> I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
> but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the
correct
> answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!
>
>   1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
> release?
>
>
> A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
> time, but only one data frame is allowed.
>
> B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
> given time, but only one token is allowed.
>
> C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
> circulate the ring at any given time.
>
> D. A station releases a free token after stripping the
frame
> from the ring
>
> E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a
token
> to be released from its neighbor.
>
>
>
> 2.What is the best description of poison reverse?
>
>
>
> A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
> the OSPF area.
>
> B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising
the
> bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
> cost.
>
> C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
> interface it was received on.
>
> The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with
a
> metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.
>
>
>
> 3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
> answer)
>
>
> A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.
>
> B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and
receiver
> to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.
>
> C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to
more
> than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.
>
> D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.
>
>
>
> 4.Examine the following:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are
valid?
> (multiple answer)
>
>
>
> A. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
>
>
> B. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 2
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> C. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> D. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> 5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
> design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
> configurations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A. No changes are necessary.
>
> B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
> area 0.
>
> C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
> installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.
>
> D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
> between Area 60 and Area 6.
>
> E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
> work.
>
>
>
> 6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
> statements is correct?
>
>
> A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
> switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.
>
> B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in
one
> specific VLAN.
>
> C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
> Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.
>
> D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.
>
>
>
> 7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?
>
>
> A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection
the
> NAS.
>
> B.

Re: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Michael J. Doherty

Posting questions from the test that you took is a violation of Cisco's NDA!


- Original Message -
From: "Yang Jun (Ike Yang)" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:49
Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]


> Dear CCIEs,
>
> I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
> but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the
correct
> answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!
>
>   1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
> release?
>
>
> A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
> time, but only one data frame is allowed.
>
> B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
> given time, but only one token is allowed.
>
> C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
> circulate the ring at any given time.
>
> D. A station releases a free token after stripping the
frame
> from the ring
>
> E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a
token
> to be released from its neighbor.
>
>
>
> 2.What is the best description of poison reverse?
>
>
>
> A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
> the OSPF area.
>
> B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising
the
> bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
> cost.
>
> C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
> interface it was received on.
>
> The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with
a
> metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.
>
>
>
> 3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
> answer)
>
>
> A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.
>
> B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and
receiver
> to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.
>
> C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to
more
> than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.
>
> D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.
>
>
>
> 4.Examine the following:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are
valid?
> (multiple answer)
>
>
>
> A. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
>
>
> B. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 2
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> C. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> D. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> 5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
> design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
> configurations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A. No changes are necessary.
>
> B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
> area 0.
>
> C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
> installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.
>
> D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
> between Area 60 and Area 6.
>
> E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
> work.
>
>
>
> 6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
> statements is correct?
>
>
> A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
> switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.
>
> B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in
one
> specific VLAN.
>
> C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
> Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.
>
> D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.
>
>
>
> 7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?
>
>
> A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection
the
> NAS.
>
> B. AAA can be configured to direct RADIUS
> authentication/authorization to one server and RADIUS accounting to a
> different server.
>
> C. RADIUS supports bi-directional CHAP authentication.
>
> D. RADIUS is a proprietary protocol that is necessarily
> vendor specific.
>
> E.  RADIUS supports command authorization.
>
>
>
> 8.Which statements about TACACS+ are true? (multiple answer)
>
>
> A. If more than one TACACS+ server is configured and the
> first one does not respond within a given

RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread james mensah

Abbas are you new to this group and do you have some respect for Cisco NDA
and for that matter ethics? Watch out Cisco is about to get you.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ali,
Abbas
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

Sorry to hear that.  Here is what I think the answers would be.

Q1) B
Q2) B
Q3) Definetly A, could also include B if multiple choice.
Q4) AB
Q5) Don't know.
Q6) BC
Q7)
Q8)
Q9) D
Q10)
Q11)B

-Original Message-
From: Yang Jun (Ike Yang) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]


Dear CCIEs,

I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the correct
answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

  1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
release?


A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
time, but only one data frame is allowed.

B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
given time, but only one token is allowed.

C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
circulate the ring at any given time.

D. A station releases a free token after stripping the frame
from the ring

E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a token
to be released from its neighbor.



2.What is the best description of poison reverse?



A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
the OSPF area.

B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising the
bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
cost.

C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
interface it was received on.

The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with a
metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.



3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
answer)


A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.

B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and receiver
to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.

C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to more
than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.

D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.



4.Examine the following:





















Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are valid?
(multiple answer)



A. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0



B. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 2

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



C. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



D. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
configurations?





























A. No changes are necessary.

B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
area 0.

C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.

D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
between Area 60 and Area 6.

E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
work.



6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
statements is correct?


A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.

B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in one
specific VLAN.

C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.

D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.



7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?


A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection the
NAS.

B. AAA can be configured to direct RADIUS
authentication/authorization to one server and RADIUS accounting to a
different server.

C. RADIUS supports bi-directional CHAP authentication.

D. RADIUS is a proprietary protocol that is necessarily
vendor specific.

E.  RADIUS supports command authorization.



8. 

RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address [7:28864]

2001-12-11 Thread Symon Thurlow

Perhaps you should take this discussion off line as it is no longer
relevant to the list.

Cheers,

Symon

---
> >>until you have done some real research
> -Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of
MIT)
> Does that count??
> -
> Priscilla
> Just in case you were wondering, that was a rhetorical question.
Which
> means I do *not expect* a reply from your ego-centric highness.
> Suggest you look up "rhetorical" when you grow up. It is rather a
long word.
> Thanks
> -Anil
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:54 PM
> To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> 
> 
> >>What's your point?
> This is total crap coming from a self proclaimed moderator.
> >>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> 
> That is my point.
> -
> >>until you have done some real research
> -Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of
MIT)
> Does that count??
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:14 PM
> To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> 
> 
> >Please stop sending messages about this topic
> >(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
> I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
> My sincere apologies
> 
> -Anil
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> 
> 
> At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
> >This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
> >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
> >
> >It must be out of date :-)
> 
> Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong
material.
> What's your point?
> 
> Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man
page? Have
> you checked some RFCs?
> 
> Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do
its
> messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What
problems
> were its creators trying to solve?
> 
> Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic)
until
> you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted
page 9 of
> a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list
could care
> less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book. This list is for people
> studying for advanced Cisco certifications.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >5. Session Layer
> >The session layer provides services in the application to manage
inter-host
> >communication. Think of this function as the old-time telephone
switchboard
> >operator: first, watching for a light on the switchboard indicating
a
> >connection was needed, next connecting and monitoring the call, and
then
> >finally disconnecting it by pulling the plug. For example, Network
File
> >System (NFS) is like an extended feature Telnet program for UNIX
that keeps
> >a connection (session) alive and available until the terminate
command is
> >given. Other examples include Structured Query Language (SQL),
Remote
> >Procedure Call (RPC), and X-Windows.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:13 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> >That's 40% right.
> >
> >SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.
> >
> >RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.
> >
> >We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle
books can
> >teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where
protocol
> >behavior is concerned.
> >
> >A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by
Howard
> >Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented
much
> > >Yes, I checked it out..
> > >Session layer protocols include:
> > >SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer
protocols.
> > >Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
> > >
> > >-Anil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
> > >To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ?
[7:28378]
> > >
> > >
> > > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented
much
> > >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer
protocols?
> > >Someone please correct me.
> > >-Anil
> 

CCIE Written Exam [7:28870]

2001-12-11 Thread Ali, Abbas

I took my CCIE Written yesterday and passed it.  I got 78%.  The good thing
that it allowed me to review the questions, but the bad thing was that in
multiple choice questions, the only hint you will get "CHECK MULTIPLE
ANSWERS".  

Some questions were really confusing.  If anyone is preparing make sure to
learn everything about Token Ring (RSRB, SRB,SRT, SR/TLB, DSLW+).  Lot of
people get frustrated with Token Ring.  But in my case it actually helped me
passed the exam since I did little bad in other sections.  Token ring
questions are more like  math's equations if you do it right you know that
you are right compare to couple of other  sections where memorization is
required and the wording game by Ciso will kill you.

The test is not interactive, so don't worry too much about command lines.

Regards,



Abbas Ali, AVVID, CCDP, CCNP, MCSE
Network Engineer II
 > 
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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

How can you attack someone for bringing this URL to your attention?
There is even a feedback address.
You would have been better off sending your attacks to the people who print
the mistakes.
Not the person who brings them to your attention.

Strongly suggest you apologise.
-Anil




At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>
>It must be out of date :-)

Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
What's your point?
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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread Hugo M. H. R. Taxa

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> ...
> This list is for people studying for advanced Cisco certifications.
   ^^

Could have fooled me ... by the knowledge level of some of the enquires on
this list ...

I have no Cisco certifications but I'll be damned if I don't know a lot more
than a lot of you "certified" ones ... remember people, the paper means
nothing if the knowledge isn't there to back it up ...

Hugo




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Does 1720 Support Voice? [7:4]

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looking at the features supported by the image c1700-sy-mz.12.2-6 (IP
PLUS) in the Feature Navigator (I will not paste the URL because
apparently it will be removed), we can see that the image supports the
"Voice over Frame Relay (FRF.11)" feature.

Strange, because the "Cisco IOS Planner" tool tell us that the IP PLUS
image is not supported in the 1750, only in the 1720.

Can anybody tell me if the images c1700-sy-mz.12.?-?.? (IP PLUS) run
in a 1750-2V /4V box? And the voice hardware will be recognized (DSP
and analog interfaces) and enabled?


Thanks,

Hugo




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RE: 3rd party Flash memory [7:28823]

2001-12-11 Thread Johan Hjalmarsson

I upgraded a 2600 and a couple of 2500's some time ago.
The 2600 worked just fine and so did the flash memories to the 2500's.
The 2500 DRAM's however...

To make a long story short, it turned out that since there is a large number
of revisions of the 2500 not all memories worked in all boxes.
In the end I got a new shippment which had chips from a different vendor on
it (Nania instead of Samsung). These modules worked just fine and still runs
without a problem.

The lesson I learned from this is that it's probably no problem to get 3rd
party memories for newer boxes, but for older ones you really have to have a
good relationship with your supplier.


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RE: Boson Practice Tests -- Cheating?? [7:28318]

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shah,

What about the other Cisco career certificaton exams (CC-N/D-A/P)?

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CCIE Written (350-001) costs 585$ in Australia. (thats about 300US$). 


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Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]

2001-12-11 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,
I have a 2514 and a 2523 that I am selling for $1300.00 + S&H. The 2514 has 
2 serials and 2 ethernets and the 2523 comes with 8 serials along with a TR 
and ISDN port. Along with the router, you get 2 Cisco console cables, 2 AUI 
transceivers and 2 Cisco original V.35 DTE/DCE cables along with CAT5 
cables. Let me know if you are interested.
Sincerely,



>From: "Carroll Kong" 
>Reply-To: "Carroll Kong" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:23:06 -0500
>
>Seems to be a lot on Ebay. (2514 that is).  (2523) is a bit more rare.
>
>At 09:49 AM 12/9/01 -0500, John Green wrote:
> >ok tell me this guys.
> >the 2523 and 2514 are not available in like
> >used_hardware / online / acution sites.
> >seems these two are pretty popular ones. why ?
> >i have been trying to get hold of 2514 (has 2 ethernet
> >interfaces) but have been unsuccessful yet.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Circusnuts  wrote:
> > > All you need is @ least version 10.0 IOS and Serial
> > > interfaces.  This
> > > explains why the AGS and MGS (and ear muffs) are
> > > still found in a lot of
> > > CCIE labs today.
> > >
> > > All the best !!!
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "EA Louie"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
> > >
> > >
> > > > yes it is.  I have one and it works fine as a
> > > frame switch AND router with
> > > > isdn, serial, and token ring.  A great
> > > multi-purpose device, and usually
> > > > cheaper than a 2522.
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Ham web"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:39 AM
> > > > Subject: Home lab - 2523 [7:27788]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > hi folks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Joust wanted to know if the 2523 was a good buy
> > > to act
> > > > > as a frame relay/x.25 switch in a home lab
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ham
> > > > >
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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:28870]

2001-12-11 Thread Olympia Ric

Congratulations!!

Is this the new format. How many questions and how long were you allowed? Do
I need to remember all Cisco commands? How heavy on specific Cisco as
opposed to general protocol knowledge? What is percentage on Token Ring
stuff? BGP? Cisco router/switches configuration?

Thanks.


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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

Priscilla
I have a lot to learn from you (and others), and I mean that in all honesty.
Thank you for being so patient and understanding.
It's good to see the "real" you again.
-Anil





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At 09:11 AM 12/11/01, anil wrote:
> >Please stop sending messages about this topic
> >(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.

I'm sorry I was so hard on you. You're right that I don't have a right to
tell you what to send. You irritated me because you kept sending links to
wrong info and I misunderstood your motive for doing that.

I gave more thought to NFS and the issue of wrong info everywhere. I stick
to my guns that you have to dig deeper sometimes and investigate the
messages that the protocol sends, the services it offers, the services
below it that it uses, what problem the creators of the protocol were
trying to solve, etc. Knowing (or investigating) some history helps.

Sun developed NFS as part of their Open Network Computing platform in the
late 1980s. The OSI model was already being used for what it's good for.
NFS was designed to be an application-layer protocol that ran above a
session-layer protocol and uses XDR at the presentation layer. This is not
a good one to turn into an arguable issue. It's straight forward.

Because it's a Sun protocol, I wasn't really sure if there was an RFC, but
there does seem to be one, RFC 1094. I found it by searching on "NFS RFC"
in Google. It was the first hit.

Regarding the existence of session-layer protocols, there really are very
few in the IP world. RPC is one. NetBIOS is one. AppleTalk has the
AppleTalk Session Protocol (ASP), but when Apple Filing Protocol (AFP) runs
above TCP, the session layer disappears. There is something called Data
Stream Identifier (DSI) between AFP and TCP, but it doesn't do much.

OSI did a good job of defining the session layer. Believe it or not, Cisco
Network Academy materials describe it reasonably well and cover two-way
alternating and two-way simultaneous relationships, etc. But then they
categorized the wrong protocols as being session-layer protocols. OSI's
definitions for the session layer are just academic these days. Even the
protocols I mentioned, such as NetBIOS, etc. don't behave the way OSI said
would!? ;-)

Priscilla


>I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
>My sincere apologies
>
>-Anil
>




Priscilla Oppenheimer
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RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Gardner, Brent

Let's be realistic here:
If this guy had a memory good enough to remember all these questions, he
would not have failed the exam.

He obviously cheated and wrote the questions down during the test.
...or maybe he had a spy camera in his lapel?

The sad thing is that he is tempting a lot of hard-working people on this
list who are earnestly trying to LEARN the material for the exam.

Brent Gardner


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RE: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]

2001-12-11 Thread george gittins

just a quick question, im studying for the ccie written what the QUe, is it
a webs site?
where can i get this ccie prep kit

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Congratulation!!! I passed this exam as well, at the first attempt with
a 75% 2 days ago. I used:

1) Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper
2) Network Learning CCIE Written Prep Guide
3) CCIE Prep Kit from QUE

I agreed with Nick this is not an easy exam. I would also suggest
everyone who has done with CCNP, should take this exam within a short
period of time. Thanks everyone on this group. On to the Lab exam!!!

Albert


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Subject: passed CCIE written (longish) [7:28614]

I just passed my qualification test with an 83. It was not an easy test,
considering the topics covered. However, I must admit that nothing on
the
test was beyond the blue print (from CCO). I must admit that being a
CCNP is
definitely an advantage when one goes for this test, the coverage is
different, since more concentration is on theoritical topics, desktop
protocols & of course token ring & SRB/DLSW/RSRB/etc. bridging,  rather
than
the actual routing protocols. I would attempt to suggest a path that one
may
take (books etc.) while preparing for this test. This will apply mostly
to
CCNP/DP's & one with experience (NP/DP level).

Read :

1. Internetworking TEch. overview (CCO) this is an absolute must,
however
not many who have passed the test seem to refer to this. It certainly
has no
commands kinda info, but packet types, frame types, layers etc. are
plentiful, and these are tested.
2. Caslow : I have mixed responses about caslow, no doubt it is a very
good
book, no doubt I couldnt have studied some of the topics without it, no
doubt that it has a wealth of concentrated info, however one can "bypass
it". It is replaceable.
3. Read chapter on ATM & LANE from LAN switching book by Kennedy Clark
(Cisco Press). Its the best explanation one can get.
4. If a CCNP, read all the 4 books, read DLSW + RSRB + SRB papers from
CCO.
5. Know the boot sequence & the boot register in & out.
6. Lou Rossi's Token Ring Paper
7. Dennis Laganiere's RIF examples (good examples)
8. CCO Blue print(probably the most imp. ), I used to go back and forth
forming my own Q's about a particular topic.
One can replace Caslow (for written, its an absolute must for LAB) by
referring to all the above mentioned material.

I would recommend taking Written almost immediately after CCNP, while
the
material is still fresh.

And lastly, the most important is BOSON tests, especially 2 & 3, test 3
has
now about 400Q's and that really tests most of the stuff.
Experience with actual hardware is important, however I would think that
Cisco doesnt rely on actual experience with hardware for this test
atleast
(NP/DP tests albeit do rely on experience)

I would like to thank everyone on this group. now enroute to LAB, and
also
being part of the exclusive LAB study group (on groupstudy, where else
:)

Nick Shah
Network Engr.
Connect Internet Solutions




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CCNP Switching - Mapping MAC address to IP Multicast [7:10]

2001-12-11 Thread Sergio

Hi all. This is my first message here. Greetings from Spain ;)

Now, i have a question for you. I'm preparing my CCNP Switching exam, and now
im reading about IP Multicast.

The book says that IANA reserved some MAC address for using with IP
Multicast.
The book also says that MAC addresses must be mapped to IP Multicast address,
and it explains how to map them. But i cant understand it. I dont understand
how to map MAC address to IP Multicast addresses.

Can u help me?

Thanks in advice.




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1601 with "-mz." Images [7:7]

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What does a 1601 need to support compressed images? PCMCIA flash cards
cost more than the 1601 box. It should be very intresting to use an
image like "c1600-sy-mz.12.1-1" that needs 4MB flash, that's usually
the amount of flash that the 1601 already have.

The DRAM requirements are not higher if an -mz. image will be used?
The Feature Navigator tool has a "N. A" in the DRAM requirements...

Please help,

Hugo




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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:28870]

2001-12-11 Thread Olympia Ric

Nick,

Thanks. Where do I get Rossi's paper?

Ric


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RE: CCIE Written Exam [7:28870]

2001-12-11 Thread Nick S.

Good work Ali.

Ric, the new format has 100 Q's to be answered in 2 hrs(120 mins). You can
mark a Q, and go back, or you can go back and change anyway. Multiple
selections dont tell you to select 2 or 3, but just "multiple answers" so we
have to think and select the correct ones.

The test stresses heavily on theoritical aspects, and so Token/SRB/RSRB/DLSW
appear a lot. Try reading Lou Rossi's paper and that contains all that you
need to know.

The rest of the stuff is found in Internetworking TEch. Overview (on CCO) &
Caslow. If you stick to these 2 sources + Boson + Rossi's paper you should
be fine.

Nick



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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 09:11 AM 12/11/01, anil wrote:
> >Please stop sending messages about this topic
> >(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.

I'm sorry I was so hard on you. You're right that I don't have a right to 
tell you what to send. You irritated me because you kept sending links to 
wrong info and I misunderstood your motive for doing that.

I gave more thought to NFS and the issue of wrong info everywhere. I stick 
to my guns that you have to dig deeper sometimes and investigate the 
messages that the protocol sends, the services it offers, the services 
below it that it uses, what problem the creators of the protocol were 
trying to solve, etc. Knowing (or investigating) some history helps.

Sun developed NFS as part of their Open Network Computing platform in the 
late 1980s. The OSI model was already being used for what it's good for. 
NFS was designed to be an application-layer protocol that ran above a 
session-layer protocol and uses XDR at the presentation layer. This is not 
a good one to turn into an arguable issue. It's straight forward.

Because it's a Sun protocol, I wasn't really sure if there was an RFC, but 
there does seem to be one, RFC 1094. I found it by searching on "NFS RFC" 
in Google. It was the first hit.

Regarding the existence of session-layer protocols, there really are very 
few in the IP world. RPC is one. NetBIOS is one. AppleTalk has the 
AppleTalk Session Protocol (ASP), but when Apple Filing Protocol (AFP) runs 
above TCP, the session layer disappears. There is something called Data 
Stream Identifier (DSI) between AFP and TCP, but it doesn't do much.

OSI did a good job of defining the session layer. Believe it or not, Cisco 
Network Academy materials describe it reasonably well and cover two-way 
alternating and two-way simultaneous relationships, etc. But then they 
categorized the wrong protocols as being session-layer protocols. OSI's 
definitions for the session layer are just academic these days. Even the 
protocols I mentioned, such as NetBIOS, etc. don't behave the way OSI said 
would!? ;-)

Priscilla


>I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
>My sincere apologies
>
>-Anil
>




Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Ali, Abbas

Sorry guys,

I just got carried away.  I always respected Cisco's NDA.  I just didn't
think that were the real questions since they were so long.  In my previous
groups I always raised the issue of NDA when some people tried to violate.  

IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

Regards,

Abbas

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Abbas are you new to this group and do you have some respect for Cisco NDA
and for that matter ethics? Watch out Cisco is about to get you.

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Abbas
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Subject: RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

Sorry to hear that.  Here is what I think the answers would be.

Q1) B
Q2) B
Q3) Definetly A, could also include B if multiple choice.
Q4) AB
Q5) Don't know.
Q6) BC
Q7)
Q8)
Q9) D
Q10)
Q11)B

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From: Yang Jun (Ike Yang) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]


Dear CCIEs,

I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the correct
answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

  1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
release?


A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
time, but only one data frame is allowed.

B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
given time, but only one token is allowed.

C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
circulate the ring at any given time.

D. A station releases a free token after stripping the frame
from the ring

E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a token
to be released from its neighbor.



2.What is the best description of poison reverse?



A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
the OSPF area.

B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising the
bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
cost.

C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
interface it was received on.

The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with a
metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.



3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
answer)


A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.

B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and receiver
to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.

C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to more
than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.

D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.



4.Examine the following:





















Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are valid?
(multiple answer)



A. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0



B. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 2

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



C. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



D. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
configurations?





























A. No changes are necessary.

B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
area 0.

C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.

D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
between Area 60 and Area 6.

E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
work.



6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
statements is correct?


A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.

B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in one
specific VLAN.

C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.

D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.



7.Which statement 

Re: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread EA Louie

> Dear CCIEs,
>
> I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
> but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the
correct
> answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!
>

Wow, that is a lot of questions, and it clearly indicates that you were not
ready for the CCIE Written exam.  Where did you LOOK for the correct answer?
May I politely suggest that you study the information on Cisco more
carefully, then provide your own answers to these questions?  Those of us
who have passed had to learn the answers by reading and then remembering the
information.  Almost all of the answers that you are requestion can be found
at www.cisco.com so please do your studying.

Other members have informed you by asking these questions, you are breaking
the Cisco Non-Disclosure Agreement that you signed before you took the exam
(non-disclosure means, don't tell anyone what the questions or answers are
on the exam).  You should be concerned that if you are caught violating this
non-disclosure agreement, you will be barred from taking the Written Exam.
Are the answers to these questions really worth the suspension?

Also, CCIE's are usually very independent and know how to do research on a
subject before asking questions for help.  You should start your training in
that manner - do the research FIRST, and then when you can't find the
answer, ask us here on the list.

PS  Many of us know the answers to these questions, and the answers are
easily found in the Cisco documentation and in the books that are suggested
reading material for the CCIE Written exam.

>   1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
> release?
>
>
> A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
> time, but only one data frame is allowed.
>
> B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
> given time, but only one token is allowed.
>
> C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
> circulate the ring at any given time.
>
> D. A station releases a free token after stripping the
frame
> from the ring
>
> E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a
token
> to be released from its neighbor.
>
>
>
> 2.What is the best description of poison reverse?
>
>
>
> A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
> the OSPF area.
>
> B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising
the
> bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
> cost.
>
> C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
> interface it was received on.
>
> The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with
a
> metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.
>
>
>
> 3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
> answer)
>
>
> A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.
>
> B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and
receiver
> to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.
>
> C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to
more
> than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.
>
> D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.
>
>
>
> 4.Examine the following:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are
valid?
> (multiple answer)
>
>
>
> A. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0
>
>
>
> B. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 2
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> C. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
>
>
> D. router A
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
>
> router B
>
> router OSPF 1
>
> network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
>
> 5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
> design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
> configurations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A. No changes are necessary.
>
> B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
> area 0.
>
> C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
> installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.
>
> D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
> between Area 60 and Area 6.
>
> E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
> work.
>
>
>
> 6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
> statements is cor

ethernet keepalive [7:28888]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

what does an ethernet keepalive packet look like?  Who does a router send
one to (especially if connected to a switch).  Is it looking for voltage or
something else?




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Re: Group Study LAB Board Question [7:28863]

2001-12-11 Thread Gregg Malcolm

Thanks Jim.  Just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any rule.  I've
taken the lab once (failed and written expired).  I am familiar with how
dates become open within a couple of weeks of when someone is ready for the
test.  Key is to be ready then start looking for swaps.  Looks like a lot of
folks are trying for March tho.
Thanks again.


""Jim Brown""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Join the board and use whatever date you feel comfortable with. As far as
> the date is concerned, if you can leave on a weeks notice, there will be a
> seat available.
>
> Dates are always opening up. Just study with a March date in mind and you
> should be able to grab one within two weeks of the test. I'm pretty
certain
> about this.
>
> Look at the scheduler and you probably will see Jan dates open. If I
> remember correctly Cisco testing is closed for testing from around the
20th
> till the new year. This might affect the availability of Jan dates in
> regards to my earlier statement.
>
> Just keep an eye open study your buns off and you should be able to grab
the
> desired date as it approaches.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gregg Malcolm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT:Group Study LAB Board Question [7:28863]
>
>
> I recently passed my CCIE written.  I am hoping for a Mid March lab date.
> Currently, cisco is showing only earliest available dates in June.  I'd
like
> to join the lab discussion group, but I have not yet schdeluded the lab
> since I don't want to wait until June to take it.  Would it be an error in
> protocol to join the group saying that I have a mid March date?  I'm am
> going to try very hard to get a mid March date (hopefully a swap).
>
> Thank you,  Gregg




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RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread james mensah

Can't the moderator block these kinds of posting? It really makes me sick,
let me get back to my lab before l get distracted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yang
Jun (Ike Yang)
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 12:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

Dear CCIEs,

I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the correct
answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

  1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
release?


A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
time, but only one data frame is allowed.

B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
given time, but only one token is allowed.

C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
circulate the ring at any given time.

D. A station releases a free token after stripping the frame
from the ring

E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a token
to be released from its neighbor.



2.What is the best description of poison reverse?



A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
the OSPF area.

B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising the
bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
cost.

C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
interface it was received on.

The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with a
metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.



3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
answer)


A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.

B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and receiver
to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.

C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to more
than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.

D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.



4.Examine the following:





















Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are valid?
(multiple answer)



A. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0



B. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 2

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



C. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



D. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
configurations?





























A. No changes are necessary.

B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
area 0.

C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.

D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
between Area 60 and Area 6.

E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
work.



6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
statements is correct?


A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.

B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in one
specific VLAN.

C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.

D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.



7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?


A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection the
NAS.

B. AAA can be configured to direct RADIUS
authentication/authorization to one server and RADIUS accounting to a
different server.

C. RADIUS supports bi-directional CHAP authentication.

D. RADIUS is a proprietary protocol that is necessarily
vendor specific.

E.  RADIUS supports command authorization.



8.Which statements about TACACS+ are true? (multiple answer)


A. If more than one TACACS+ server is configured and the
first one does not respond within a given timeout period, the next TACACS+
server in the list will be contacted.

B. The TACACS+ server!/s connection to the NAS encrypts the
entire packet.

C. The TACACS+ server must u

RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Ali, Abbas

If you can remember the questions then you should be able to find you own
answers.  You are violating the Cisco's policy.  Please be careful.

Regards,

Ali, Abbas

-Original Message-
From: Yang Jun (Ike Yang) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCIE written questions [7:28862]


Dear CCIEs,

I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the correct
answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

  1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
release?


A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
time, but only one data frame is allowed.

B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
given time, but only one token is allowed.

C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
circulate the ring at any given time.

D. A station releases a free token after stripping the frame
from the ring

E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a token
to be released from its neighbor.



2.What is the best description of poison reverse?



A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
the OSPF area.

B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising the
bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
cost.

C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
interface it was received on.

The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with a
metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.



3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
answer)


A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.

B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and receiver
to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.

C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to more
than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.

D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.



4.Examine the following:





















Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are valid?
(multiple answer)



A. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0



B. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 2

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



C. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



D. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
configurations?





























A. No changes are necessary.

B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
area 0.

C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.

D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
between Area 60 and Area 6.

E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
work.



6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
statements is correct?


A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.

B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in one
specific VLAN.

C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.

D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.



7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?


A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection the
NAS.

B. AAA can be configured to direct RADIUS
authentication/authorization to one server and RADIUS accounting to a
different server.

C. RADIUS supports bi-directional CHAP authentication.

D. RADIUS is a proprietary protocol that is necessarily
vendor specific.

E.  RADIUS supports command authorization.



8.Which statements about TACACS+ are true? (multiple answer)


A. If more than one TACACS+ server is configured and the
first one does not respond within a given timeout period, the next TACACS+
server in the list will be contacted.

B. The TACACS+ server!/s connection to the NAS encrypts the
entire packet.

C. The TACACS+ serv

Re: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread MADMAN

I'm not going to sit a flame you, there is enough of that as of late,
but I know I signed some Nondisclosure and though it's been several
years I think you signed one when taking the CCIE written.  IOW what
your asking is violating the NDA.

  If you can remember these questions and answers me thinks you can find
and remember the correct answers.

  Dave

"Yang Jun (Ike Yang)" wrote:
> 
> Dear CCIEs,
> 
> I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
> but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the
correct
> answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

 
David Madland
Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
612-664-3367

"Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"




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RE: CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Alex Lei

Hello Ike,

>From your email address I know you are based in China. Perhaps you are not
very aware of Cisco's lawyer's fearsome powers due to geographical distance.
I mean no ill will and this is simply a friendly reminder, but please
refrain from posting actual test questions. You signed the Non - disclosure
agreement when you took the test, and they can, and have, revoked people's
certs because of leakage.

Alex


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Re: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]

2001-12-11 Thread Brant Stevens

Sounds like you may have dCEF enabled, and not enough RAM on a 
linecard...  I had the same problem...  

Patrick Donlon wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I have a problem with a router running BGP. I have two 7204vxr's running BGP
>connecting to two different service providers, I upgraded the IOS of one the
>routers with version 12.1(5)T10 (IP PLUS IPSEC 3DES) and the boot image, it
>ran for a week with no problems. I upgraded the other router with the same
>images and as got memory allocation errors when it established adjacency
>with the BGP neighbours, see the output below. I'm no BGP expert and I
>believe there is enough memory in the router, so any suggestions will be
>appreciated
>
>Regards
>
>Pat
>
>*Nov 25 15:55:29: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
>*Nov 25 15:55:31: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
>*Nov 25 15:55:41: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
>*Nov 25 15:56:07: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 65496 bytes failed
>from
>
>0x606BE0F4, pool Processor, alignment 0
>-Process= "BGP Router", ipl= 0, pid= 118
>-Traceback= 606C1450 606C38B0 606BE0FC 606BE8F0 6082D330 6082D578 6082EA84
>
>609FA5EC 609FB2B8 61476248 609FB35C 609D61F0 606B7DA4 606B7D90
>*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
>*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
>*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.*Down No memory
>*Nov 25 15:56:11: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor *.*.*.* 3/1 (update
>
>malformed) 0 bytes
>*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
>*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
>*Nov 25 15:56:51: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up




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Re: Schedule job in CiscoWorks2000 [7:28852]

2001-12-11 Thread John Neiberger

Yes.  Login to CW2000 as admin (or a user with admin priveleges) and go
to RME--> Administration --> Inventory --> Change Device Attributes. 
This is where you set the passwords and SNMP community strings that CW2K
will use to access your devices.

This is maintained separately from the SNMP settings used by the ANI
Server.

HTH,
John

>>> "Hans Stout"  12/11/01 10:03:00 AM >>>
Hello colleagues,

I am trying to schedule a job to get the enable and telnet passwords
changed 
on all my switches and routers using the job scheduler in Resource
Manager 
Essentials. I understand how to schedule the job, but the execution
fails 
every time because the logon to the switches and routers fails. How is
the 
job scheduler supposed to now how to logon to a system ? Where are the

passwords stored ? Is there an option in CiscoWorks2000 where you can
fill 
in the default passwords, similar to the default SNMP community strings
? 
Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards,

Hans


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RE: Group Study LAB Board Question [7:28863]

2001-12-11 Thread Jim Brown

Join the board and use whatever date you feel comfortable with. As far as
the date is concerned, if you can leave on a weeks notice, there will be a
seat available.

Dates are always opening up. Just study with a March date in mind and you
should be able to grab one within two weeks of the test. I'm pretty certain
about this.

Look at the scheduler and you probably will see Jan dates open. If I
remember correctly Cisco testing is closed for testing from around the 20th
till the new year. This might affect the availability of Jan dates in
regards to my earlier statement.

Just keep an eye open study your buns off and you should be able to grab the
desired date as it approaches.


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Subject: OT:Group Study LAB Board Question [7:28863]


I recently passed my CCIE written.  I am hoping for a Mid March lab date. 
Currently, cisco is showing only earliest available dates in June.  I'd like
to join the lab discussion group, but I have not yet schdeluded the lab
since I don't want to wait until June to take it.  Would it be an error in
protocol to join the group saying that I have a mid March date?  I'm am
going to try very hard to get a mid March date (hopefully a swap).

Thank you,  Gregg




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RE: Speeding up BGP convergance in Bootcamp lab 18 [7:28859]

2001-12-11 Thread Joshua Barnes

YEEHAW!!

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Howard C. Berkowitz
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Subject: Re: Speeding up BGP convergance in Bootcamp lab 18 [7:28859]

>Nice... Nothing like taking cheap shots on someone that is sending to a
>forum thats supposed to help you learn.
>
>I'll bet you can remember a time back when you didn't know everything
>there is to know about BGP.
>
>Try adjusting the timers, soft neighbor reconfiguration.
>
  "fwells12"  12/10/01 06:22PM >>>
>Dude, your a senior network engineer?
>
>Doing a clear ip bgp * forces the neigbors to renegotiate their
>relationship
>and resend ALL the routes.
>
>I think they are probably talking about using the neighbor
>soft-reconfiguration command.
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Phillip Estrada (EUS)" 
>To: "Antonio Marfil" ;
>
>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:51 PM
>Subject: RE: Speeding up BGP convergance in Bootcamp lab 18
>
>
>>  Dude,  you're a senior network engineer?
>>
>  > Clear ip bgp *

Dude,

Isn't as simple as it looks. Just as a start of knowing about some of 
the mechanisms being introduced, an excerpt from my upcoming book, 
Building Service Provider Networks, is below.

I haven't read this specific scenario. I will make the point, 
however, that fast BGP reconvergence isn't necessarily a good thing, 
when weighed against Internet stability.  Reconverging quickly to a 
failed net is futile. Enterprises and ISPs will have different 
perspectives on this.  So the scenario may be artificial rather than 
real-world.

BGP convergence itself is not that well-defined, and I'm actively 
involved in an IETF effort to formalize the definitions: 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-00.txt





--

The next implementer approach was to have the router store the entire
Adj-RIB-In, rather than only those routes in it that passed filtering
criteria and went to the Loc-RIB.   If the acceptance policy then
changed, the information already was there to refilter. While this
improvement avoided needing to do a full reconvergence, it was both
memory and processor intensive.

The next step was to negotiate a soft refresh between pairs of BGP
speakers.  When both routers advertise the route refresh capability, a
speaker whose policies change can send a ROUTE REFRESH message to the
neighbor.  On receipt of that message, the neighbor will readvertise the
appropriate Adj-RIB-Out, which the local speaker will refilter and send
the surviving routes to its Loc-RIB.

Figure 12: Route Refresh

Even though soft refresh improved the situation, there was still the The
Adj-RIB-In conceptually contains all BGP routes received on an
interface.   When the speaker at the other end is sending all, or a
substantial part, of the global routing table, per-interface memory
requirements can become quite large. 

A fairly straightforward workaround was to keep the Adj-RIB-In
conceptual.  As routes were received, acceptance policy rules were
applied to them, and only those that "survived" the input policy were
sent to the Loc-RIB.  This seems a reasonable workaround -- until you
change an acceptance policy rule.  At that point, how do you know that
one of the "rejected" routes would not pass the new policy, and belongs
in the RIB?

The first operational solution was to "bounce" the BGP session up and
down, resulting in the neighbor resending its entire Adj-RIB-Out. 
Especially on slower links, this could take significant bandwidth and
introduce a noticeable delay.   If BGP rules were followed, all routes
whose next hop was to the neighboring router were now invalid, and would
have to be readvertised to all other neighbors, causing a cascading
bandwidth and processing requirement on other routers, potentially
across the entire Internet.

real-world problem that the sender of the Adj-RIB-Out might very well
send routes that would be filtered by the receiver, wasting bandwidth
and receiver processing time. Outbound Route Filtering was a new way to
deal with this problem.

Outbound Route Filtering

I have long maintained that BGP doesn't transmit policies, but sends the
information on which policy decisions are made based on information
configured into the router by element management.  Outbound Route
Filtering (ORF) has forced me to modify that position,  giving a final
(if qualified) victory to a long-running debate between me and Sue
Hares, co-chair of the IDR working group that develops BGP.  At the next
IETF we attend, I owe her a drink.

The idea of ORF is that it can be of mutual benefit to a pair of routers
to exchange their acceptance policies, so a router about to send its
Adj-RIB-Out can prefilter it, thus requiring only the bandwidth for the
updates the receiver really will use. 

Figure 13:  Outbound Route Refresh

Several independent proposals have been made for the policies that can
be exchanged, and there is an attempt in 

RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread Joshua Barnes

Good to see that poor behavior is visited with goodness and wholesome
encouragment.

My name is Joshua and I am new to this board.  Looking to learn all that
can be taught!
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Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

Miss Priscilla
>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
Yes, well the level of research that went into your statement matches
the
intelligence of a newt, doesn't it? If you had a brain cell it would die
of
loneliness.

-Anil
PS fun isn't it, attacking someone's intelligence in public.
Strongly suggest you apologise to protect yourself against further
remiss.
--

>I don't agree that the other guy did any real research
The "other guy" is called "Anil"
You could not even be bothered to do the resrarch to check the name..
Getting sloppy in your old age miss (must be a girl).
Suggest you kindly *drop dead* before making personal attacks on my
credentials/ability to do research.
Thanks
-Anil
PS Ever heard the saying "Don't shoot the messenger." ??
Hurts when people attack you doesn't it..suggest you stop.
An apology would be a small miracle.




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Cisco OSPF ABR Implementations [7:28868]

2001-12-11 Thread Jaeheon Yoo

Hi, all

I believe you have already read this RFC draft.
But for those who have missed this important material, I'd like to
share this with you.

It will clarify somewhat tricky Cisco ABR behavior.

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ospf-abr-alt-04.txt


Hope this helps.

Regards
Jaeheon Yoo




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Re: frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

>From what I can understand, FRF.11 is just a standard to packetize voice and
encap it in a frame-relay header.  FRF.12 is a way to break up large packets
in a queue, encap them in frame relay headers and interleave small voice
packets among the larger packets.  FRF.11 has nothing to do with
interleaving and fragmenting, and I don't think FRF.11 gets fragmented
(although after a certain level of IOS, there was a way to specify the encap
size, but this is not fragmentation in my book).  I haven't done any VoFR in
a while and it was on a 3810.



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> Can you tell me some of the difference between FRF11 and FRF12 as far as
> fragmentation goes?  Does 12 offer some improvements (in theory) over 11?
I
> remember MPPP and FRF11/12 being discussed as ways to fragment packets so
> that voice didn't get trounced on a low bandwidth (
> Just curious.
>
> Mike W.




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Re: frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

>From what I can understand, FRF.11 is just a standard to packetize voice and
encap it in a frame-relay header.  FRF.12 is a way to break up large packets
in a queue, encap them in frame relay headers and interleave small voice
packets among the larger packets.  FRF.11 has nothing to do with
interleaving and fragmenting, and I don't think FRF.11 gets fragmented
(although after a certain level of IOS, there was a way to specify the encap
size, but this is not fragmentation in my book).  I haven't done any VoFR in
a while and it was on a 3810.



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> Can you tell me some of the difference between FRF11 and FRF12 as far as
> fragmentation goes?  Does 12 offer some improvements (in theory) over 11?
I
> remember MPPP and FRF11/12 being discussed as ways to fragment packets so
> that voice didn't get trounced on a low bandwidth (
> Just curious.
>
> Mike W.




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OT:Group Study LAB Board Question [7:28863]

2001-12-11 Thread Gregg Malcolm

I recently passed my CCIE written.  I am hoping for a Mid March lab date. 
Currently, cisco is showing only earliest available dates in June.  I'd like
to join the lab discussion group, but I have not yet schdeluded the lab
since I don't want to wait until June to take it.  Would it be an error in
protocol to join the group saying that I have a mid March date?  I'm am
going to try very hard to get a mid March date (hopefully a swap).

Thank you,  Gregg


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CCIE written questions [7:28862]

2001-12-11 Thread Yang Jun \(Ike Yang\)

Dear CCIEs,

I failed in the CCIE written exam today and, I recall some questions here
but can't find the correct answer.  Do please help me figure out the correct
answer and give me your explain.  Great thanks!

  1.. In a token ring environment, what is allowed regarding early token
release?


A. More than one token can circulate the ring at any given
time, but only one data frame is allowed.

B. More than one data frame can circulate the ring at any
given time, but only one token is allowed.

C. More than one data frame and more than one token can
circulate the ring at any given time.

D. A station releases a free token after stripping the frame
from the ring

E.  A station can transmit early without waiting for a token
to be released from its neighbor.



2.What is the best description of poison reverse?



A. It is a procedure used by OSPF to remove a network from
the OSPF area.

B. Once a connection disappears, the router advertising the
bad network will send an update from this network indicating an infinite
cost.

C. The specific network is not sent out again on the
interface it was received on.

The network is sent back out on the interface it was received on, but with a
metric of one more than the metric in the receive update.



3.In FDD, the characteristics of !04B/5B Encoding!1 include: (multiple
answer)


A. Sending 4 bits of informations using a 5 bit symbol.

B. Increasing the clock rate of the transmitter and receiver
to 125Mhz, which establishes an effective data rate of 100Mbps.

C. Increasing the distance between two FDDI stations to more
than 2km, when using multi-mode fiber.

D. Providing a workaround for the optical Bypass Relay.



4.Examine the following:





















Based on the information above, which OSPF configurations listed are valid?
(multiple answer)



A. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 area 0



B. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 2

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



C. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.0.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.0.255 area 0



D. router A

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

router B

router OSPF 1

network 14.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0

5.In reorganization, OSPF areas are realigned. Is this a valid network
design? If not, what changes could be made to the network and/or router
configurations?





























A. No changes are necessary.

B. A virtual link could be configured between Area 60 and
area 0.

C. A serial line or other physical connections could be
installed between devices in Area 60 and Area 0.

D. Router B could be configured as an Area Border Router
between Area 60 and Area 6.

E.  This is not valid design, and no changes can make it
work.



6.Which of the following CGMP (Cisco group management protocol)
statements is correct?


A. CGMP manages multicast traffic Catalyst 5000 series
switches by allowing directed switching of IP multicast traffic.

B. CGMP will switch IP multicast packets to all ports in one
specific VLAN.

C. CGMP filtering requires a network connection from the
Catalyst 5000 series to a router running CGMP.

D. CGMP handles ARP, SAP, UDP, SSAP and DSAP.



7.Which statement about RADIUS is true?


A. The RADIUS server must you use TCP for its connection the
NAS.

B. AAA can be configured to direct RADIUS
authentication/authorization to one server and RADIUS accounting to a
different server.

C. RADIUS supports bi-directional CHAP authentication.

D. RADIUS is a proprietary protocol that is necessarily
vendor specific.

E.  RADIUS supports command authorization.



8.Which statements about TACACS+ are true? (multiple answer)


A. If more than one TACACS+ server is configured and the
first one does not respond within a given timeout period, the next TACACS+
server in the list will be contacted.

B. The TACACS+ server!/s connection to the NAS encrypts the
entire packet.

C. The TACACS+ server must use TCP for its connection to the
NAS.

D. The TACACS+ server must use UDP for its connection to the
NAS.

E.  The TACACS+ server may be configured to use TCP or UDP
for its connection to the NAS.



9.CGMP (Cisco Group Management Protocol) is:


A. A serial protocol for communications betwe

RE: Clear counters command [7:28850]

2001-12-11 Thread Bill Carter

yes
clear counters [Enter]

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Subject: Clear counters command [7:28850]


Does anyone know if you can use a clear counters command from the CLI on a
Cat 3548XL to clear multiple int's at one shot?
EX: clear counters fa0/1:48  ??  Thanks.




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Re: Pin outs [7:28741]

2001-12-11 Thread Jim Keny

Thank you
Jim
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> connect terminal server (2509) to a console port of a cat5505.
>
> Thanks




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Re: Speeding up BGP convergance in Bootcamp lab 18 [7:28859]

2001-12-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Nice... Nothing like taking cheap shots on someone that is sending to a
>forum thats supposed to help you learn.
>
>I'll bet you can remember a time back when you didn't know everything
>there is to know about BGP.
>
>Try adjusting the timers, soft neighbor reconfiguration.
>
  "fwells12"  12/10/01 06:22PM >>>
>Dude, your a senior network engineer?
>
>Doing a clear ip bgp * forces the neigbors to renegotiate their
>relationship
>and resend ALL the routes.
>
>I think they are probably talking about using the neighbor
>soft-reconfiguration command.
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Phillip Estrada (EUS)" 
>To: "Antonio Marfil" ;
>
>Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 3:51 PM
>Subject: RE: Speeding up BGP convergance in Bootcamp lab 18
>
>
>>  Dude,  you're a senior network engineer?
>>
>  > Clear ip bgp *

Dude,

Isn't as simple as it looks. Just as a start of knowing about some of 
the mechanisms being introduced, an excerpt from my upcoming book, 
Building Service Provider Networks, is below.

I haven't read this specific scenario. I will make the point, 
however, that fast BGP reconvergence isn't necessarily a good thing, 
when weighed against Internet stability.  Reconverging quickly to a 
failed net is futile. Enterprises and ISPs will have different 
perspectives on this.  So the scenario may be artificial rather than 
real-world.

BGP convergence itself is not that well-defined, and I'm actively 
involved in an IETF effort to formalize the definitions: 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-00.txt





--

The next implementer approach was to have the router store the entire
Adj-RIB-In, rather than only those routes in it that passed filtering
criteria and went to the Loc-RIB.   If the acceptance policy then
changed, the information already was there to refilter. While this
improvement avoided needing to do a full reconvergence, it was both
memory and processor intensive.

The next step was to negotiate a soft refresh between pairs of BGP
speakers.  When both routers advertise the route refresh capability, a
speaker whose policies change can send a ROUTE REFRESH message to the
neighbor.  On receipt of that message, the neighbor will readvertise the
appropriate Adj-RIB-Out, which the local speaker will refilter and send
the surviving routes to its Loc-RIB.

Figure 12: Route Refresh

Even though soft refresh improved the situation, there was still the The
Adj-RIB-In conceptually contains all BGP routes received on an
interface.   When the speaker at the other end is sending all, or a
substantial part, of the global routing table, per-interface memory
requirements can become quite large. 

A fairly straightforward workaround was to keep the Adj-RIB-In
conceptual.  As routes were received, acceptance policy rules were
applied to them, and only those that "survived" the input policy were
sent to the Loc-RIB.  This seems a reasonable workaround -- until you
change an acceptance policy rule.  At that point, how do you know that
one of the "rejected" routes would not pass the new policy, and belongs
in the RIB?

The first operational solution was to "bounce" the BGP session up and
down, resulting in the neighbor resending its entire Adj-RIB-Out. 
Especially on slower links, this could take significant bandwidth and
introduce a noticeable delay.   If BGP rules were followed, all routes
whose next hop was to the neighboring router were now invalid, and would
have to be readvertised to all other neighbors, causing a cascading
bandwidth and processing requirement on other routers, potentially
across the entire Internet.

real-world problem that the sender of the Adj-RIB-Out might very well
send routes that would be filtered by the receiver, wasting bandwidth
and receiver processing time. Outbound Route Filtering was a new way to
deal with this problem.

Outbound Route Filtering

I have long maintained that BGP doesn't transmit policies, but sends the
information on which policy decisions are made based on information
configured into the router by element management.  Outbound Route
Filtering (ORF) has forced me to modify that position,  giving a final
(if qualified) victory to a long-running debate between me and Sue
Hares, co-chair of the IDR working group that develops BGP.  At the next
IETF we attend, I owe her a drink.

The idea of ORF is that it can be of mutual benefit to a pair of routers
to exchange their acceptance policies, so a router about to send its
Adj-RIB-Out can prefilter it, thus requiring only the bandwidth for the
updates the receiver really will use. 

Figure 13:  Outbound Route Refresh

Several independent proposals have been made for the policies that can
be exchanged, and there is an attempt in the IDR committee to come up
with a unified proposal that contains the three filtering criteria
suggested:
o   Prefix expression for NLRI
o   AS path expression
o   Community

These are a subset of the policy options available on commercial
rou

RE: IOS 12.0(4) Bugs ? [7:28845]

2001-12-11 Thread Jim Mailliard

Hi Phil,

Here is a link to 12.0 caveats.  I did not see anything relating to your
issue.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120cavs/120mcavs.htm

Jim


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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

>>The session layer is an elusive beast
The only elusive beast around here is a public apology.
Looking forward to it.
-Anil


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>>until you have done some real research
-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
Does that count??
-
Priscilla
Just in case you were wondering, that was a rhetorical question. Which
means I do *not expect* a reply from your ego-centric highness.
Suggest you look up "rhetorical" when you grow up. It is rather a long word.
Thanks
-Anil

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>>What's your point?
This is total crap coming from a self proclaimed moderator.
>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much

That is my point.
-
>>until you have done some real research
-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
Does that count??


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>Please stop sending messages about this topic
>(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
My sincere apologies

-Anil



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At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>
>It must be out of date :-)

Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
What's your point?

Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man page? Have
you checked some RFCs?

Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do its
messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What problems
were its creators trying to solve?

Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic) until
you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted page 9 of
a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list could care
less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book. This list is for people
studying for advanced Cisco certifications.

Priscilla

>-Anil
>
>
>5. Session Layer
>The session layer provides services in the application to manage inter-host
>communication. Think of this function as the old-time telephone switchboard
>operator: first, watching for a light on the switchboard indicating a
>connection was needed, next connecting and monitoring the call, and then
>finally disconnecting it by pulling the plug. For example, Network File
>System (NFS) is like an extended feature Telnet program for UNIX that keeps
>a connection (session) alive and available until the terminate command is
>given. Other examples include Structured Query Language (SQL), Remote
>Procedure Call (RPC), and X-Windows.
>
>
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>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:13 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>That's 40% right.
>
>SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.
>
>RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.
>
>We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle books can
>teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where protocol
>behavior is concerned.
>
>A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by Howard
>Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Yes, I checked it out..
> >Session layer protocols include:
> >SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
> >Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
> >
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
> >To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
> >Someone please correct me.
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PRO

RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

Miss Priscilla
>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
Yes, well the level of research that went into your statement matches the
intelligence of a newt, doesn't it? If you had a brain cell it would die of
loneliness.

-Anil
PS fun isn't it, attacking someone's intelligence in public.
Strongly suggest you apologise to protect yourself against further remiss.
--

>I don't agree that the other guy did any real research
The "other guy" is called "Anil"
You could not even be bothered to do the resrarch to check the name..
Getting sloppy in your old age miss (must be a girl).
Suggest you kindly *drop dead* before making personal attacks on my
credentials/ability to do research.
Thanks
-Anil
PS Ever heard the saying "Don't shoot the messenger." ??
Hurts when people attack you doesn't it..suggest you stop.
An apology would be a small miracle.




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Re: frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread Michael Williams

Can you tell me some of the difference between FRF11 and FRF12 as far as
fragmentation goes?  Does 12 offer some improvements (in theory) over 11?  I
remember MPPP and FRF11/12 being discussed as ways to fragment packets so
that voice didn't get trounced on a low bandwidth (<768Kbps) line

Just curious.

Mike W.


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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

>>until you have done some real research
-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
Does that count??
-
Priscilla
Just in case you were wondering, that was a rhetorical question. Which
means I do *not expect* a reply from your ego-centric highness.
Suggest you look up "rhetorical" when you grow up. It is rather a long word.
Thanks
-Anil

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:54 PM
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


>>What's your point?
This is total crap coming from a self proclaimed moderator.
>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much

That is my point.
-
>>until you have done some real research
-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
Does that count??


-Original Message-
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To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Please stop sending messages about this topic
>(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
My sincere apologies

-Anil



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>
>It must be out of date :-)

Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
What's your point?

Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man page? Have
you checked some RFCs?

Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do its
messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What problems
were its creators trying to solve?

Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic) until
you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted page 9 of
a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list could care
less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book. This list is for people
studying for advanced Cisco certifications.

Priscilla

>-Anil
>
>
>5. Session Layer
>The session layer provides services in the application to manage inter-host
>communication. Think of this function as the old-time telephone switchboard
>operator: first, watching for a light on the switchboard indicating a
>connection was needed, next connecting and monitoring the call, and then
>finally disconnecting it by pulling the plug. For example, Network File
>System (NFS) is like an extended feature Telnet program for UNIX that keeps
>a connection (session) alive and available until the terminate command is
>given. Other examples include Structured Query Language (SQL), Remote
>Procedure Call (RPC), and X-Windows.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:13 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>That's 40% right.
>
>SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.
>
>RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.
>
>We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle books can
>teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where protocol
>behavior is concerned.
>
>A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by Howard
>Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Yes, I checked it out..
> >Session layer protocols include:
> >SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
> >Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
> >
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
> >To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
> >Someone please correct me.
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> >At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> > >Hi, there,
> > >
> > >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
>

Schedule job in CiscoWorks2000 [7:28852]

2001-12-11 Thread Hans Stout

Hello colleagues,

I am trying to schedule a job to get the enable and telnet passwords changed 
on all my switches and routers using the job scheduler in Resource Manager 
Essentials. I understand how to schedule the job, but the execution fails 
every time because the logon to the switches and routers fails. How is the 
job scheduler supposed to now how to logon to a system ? Where are the 
passwords stored ? Is there an option in CiscoWorks2000 where you can fill 
in the default passwords, similar to the default SNMP community strings ? 
Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards,

Hans


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traffic-shape basics for IP [7:28851]

2001-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

traffic-shape 16000 8000 48000 1000

What does it mean?
8000 is per interval, right? Intervat is 128ms by 
defaiult,right? So, 8000 x 8 = 64000 bps burst, right? 
Every second ??? So, 16kbps+64kbps = 80kbps, from which 
32kbps guaranteed and the rest best effort ?

What difference is between:
traffic-shape 16000 8000 48000 1000
and
traffic-shape 32000 6000 48000 1000
where I have 32kbps + 6kb x 8 intervals/sec = 80 kbps ???

Apreciate any HELP.

Chris
just CCNA


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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

This group sure is a great way to make friends, aint it.
Tend to get intimate real quick.
Caps off, coats off and gloves off...here we go :-)
Just my type...
-Anil



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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:38 PM
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I don't agree that the other guy did any real research
The "other guy" is called "Anil"
You could not even be bothered to do the resrarch to check the name..
Getting sloppy in your old age miss (must be a girl).
Suggest you kindly *drop dead* before making personal attacks on my
credentials/ability to do research.
Thanks
-Anil
PS Ever heard the saying "Don't shoot the messenger." ??
Hurts when people attack you doesn't it..suggest you stop.
An apology would be a small miracle.




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Clear counters command [7:28850]

2001-12-11 Thread Bob Perez

Does anyone know if you can use a clear counters command from the CLI on a
Cat 3548XL to clear multiple int's at one shot?
EX: clear counters fa0/1:48  ??  Thanks.




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

>I don't agree that the other guy did any real research
The "other guy" is called "Anil"
You could not even be bothered to do the resrarch to check the name..
Getting sloppy in your old age miss (must be a girl).
Suggest you kindly *drop dead* before making personal attacks on my
credentials/ability to do research.
Thanks
-Anil
PS Ever heard the saying "Don't shoot the messenger." ??
Hurts when people attack you doesn't it..suggest you stop.
An apology would be a small miracle.




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RE: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]

2001-12-11 Thread Bill Carter

Madman is right.  In the absence of more memory this should help.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/459/41.shtml

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Patrick Donlon
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Subject: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]


Hi All

I have a problem with a router running BGP. I have two 7204vxr's running BGP
connecting to two different service providers, I upgraded the IOS of one the
routers with version 12.1(5)T10 (IP PLUS IPSEC 3DES) and the boot image, it
ran for a week with no problems. I upgraded the other router with the same
images and as got memory allocation errors when it established adjacency
with the BGP neighbours, see the output below. I'm no BGP expert and I
believe there is enough memory in the router, so any suggestions will be
appreciated

Regards

Pat

*Nov 25 15:55:29: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:55:31: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:55:41: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:07: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 65496 bytes failed
from

0x606BE0F4, pool Processor, alignment 0
-Process= "BGP Router", ipl= 0, pid= 118
-Traceback= 606C1450 606C38B0 606BE0FC 606BE8F0 6082D330 6082D578 6082EA84

609FA5EC 609FB2B8 61476248 609FB35C 609D61F0 606B7DA4 606B7D90
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.*Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:11: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor *.*.*.* 3/1 (update

malformed) 0 bytes
*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:51: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up




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Re: frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

I had the same issue with FRF.12.  Sounds good in theory and on papaer, but
in the real world, it never works.  FRF 11 Annex C is OK (VoFR) and PPP
multilinking is OK, but FRF.12 is no good.

Remind me to thank Cisco for drinking the FRF.12 kool-aid.


""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm not certain as to why, but *every* time we've tried it, the voice
> call quality has gotten worse.  I have no explanation because it doesn't
> really make sense, but it's happened every time we've tried it.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be of more help...
>
> John
>
> >>> "VoIP Guy"  12/11/01 8:49:34 AM >>>
> Has anyone have a clue as to when frame-relay fragmentation could
> actually
> make a voice call worse?
>
> Steve




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IOS 12.0(4) Bugs ? [7:28845]

2001-12-11 Thread Phil Barker

Has anyone got a cisco link for bugs in the above IOS
?
I'm having difficulty locating on cisco.com.

specifically relating to 'sh sessions' and 'telnet to
vty 0 4. I can telnet the routers without a password
or login.

Regards,

Phil.

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Re: frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread John Neiberger

I'm not certain as to why, but *every* time we've tried it, the voice
call quality has gotten worse.  I have no explanation because it doesn't
really make sense, but it's happened every time we've tried it.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help...

John

>>> "VoIP Guy"  12/11/01 8:49:34 AM >>>
Has anyone have a clue as to when frame-relay fragmentation could
actually
make a voice call worse?

Steve




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Anil,

First, let me say I _am_ one of Paul's moderators.  Moderation, on 
this list, works on an exception basis -- certain key phrases and 
names put things into a queue for moderator review before they post. 
People that don't play nicely with others have been known to join 
those filters. A friendly reminder. I'm not saying don't post, but 
use some discretion.

Now, speaking for myself rather than Paul, let me respond a bit to 
your concern. As a PhD, you presumably know the differences between 
primary and secondary research sources. Primary sources were directly 
involved in the development or experiment in question, while 
secondary sources are paraphrasing and commenting on primary sources.

I believe I have some reasonable credentials as a primary source on 
OSI, and, for that matter, current IETF work. In the OSI context, I 
was involved, through the US Federal Telecommunications Standards 
Committee, with the ANSI Distributed Systems (DISY) project, which 
was a significant starting point for the CCITT/ISO work (1976-1979). 
After that, I was the network management architect for GTE Telenet 
(1980-81) and still worked with standards groups. Subsequently, I was 
the first member of the technical staff for the Corporation for Open 
Systems (1986-1991), an international consortium for OSI/ISDN 
conformance testing and general development.My duties included staff 
liaison to the Architecture Committee (including all major vendors), 
test system development manager for FTAM (which does include the OSI 
session protocol and service), CMIP, and X.25, programmed protocol 
code on a number of other protocol test systems, and one of the 
primary external representatives for COS (including lecturing on OSI 
testing in Tokyo). I was also involved with harmonizing architecture 
between the ISO and IEEE 802 efforts.

Without getting into irrelevant detail, I've been participating in 
IETF meetings since 1994, am the author or coauthor of three RFCs, 
and a coauthor of five active Internet Drafts. With respect to TCP/IP 
interoperability, and the TCP/IP interoperability workshops that 
became Interop, been there, got the T-shirt, although it doesn't fit 
all that well anymore...I prefer to think I've gained more knowledge 
than weight since the 2nd such conference.

In other words, I think I can say legitimately that I have primary 
experience with the Internet protocol development process and the 
role of the OSI (and other) models in it.

I've worked with Priscilla for eight years or so, during part of 
which time she was a Cisco employee and course developer, and I was a 
Cisco contractor with involvement in course development. I think we 
can also claim a fair bit of direct experience with how Cisco does 
things.

Without trying to get into the middle of either you or Priscilla are 
phrasing your comments, I will make the observation that more than 
one person on the list has some pretty direct experience with the 
technologies and their primary specifications.  Arguing they are 
wrong because a secondary source written for beginners says something 
different is, to put it gently, perhaps ill-advised.


>  >>What's your point?
>This is total crap coming from a self proclaimed moderator.
>>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
>
>That is my point.
>-
>>>until you have done some real research
>-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
>Does that count??
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:14 PM
>To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>>Please stop sending messages about this topic
>>(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
>I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
>My sincere apologies
>
>-Anil
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:05 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>  >
>>It must be out of date :-)
>
>Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
>What's your point?
>
>Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man page? Have
>you checked some RFCs?
>
>Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do its
>messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What problems
>were its creators trying to solve?
>
>Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic) until
>you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted page 9 of
>a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list could care
>less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book

Re: RSRB [7:28835]

2001-12-11 Thread John Neiberger

If you have access to an image that supports APPN, you can configure
your routers as APPN nodes.  If the nodes are able to connect, then your
RSRB/DLSw+ configs are working.  Here is the link to a post in the
archives:

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200106/msg01186.html 

You can also test your configs using IP even though DLSw was not
intended to transport IP.  It gets a little trickier but you can do it. 
If you try that method, remember to add the following command to one of
the routers in the chain:

bridge xyz bitswap-layer3-addresses

If you don't add that, ARP requests and replies won't function
correctly.

good luck!

John

>>> "Lupi, Guy"  12/11/01 7:55:59 AM >>>
I have set up RSRB in the lab, and I have verified the configurations
several times with various sources.  The issue that I am seeing is that
when
I specify the remote neighbor in the configuration, the state
transitions
from dead to closed, but never to open.  My question is, what causes
the
connection to go from closed to open, do I have to have traffic such as
SNA
or  netbios to force the neighbors to come up?  Is there a way to
simulate
this traffic if I only have 3 token ring routers?  Any help is
appreciated.


R4#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname R4
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
source-bridge ring-group 12
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
!
!
interface Serial0
ip address 4.4.4.4 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
ip address 130.13.5.4 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
ring-speed 16
multiring ip
source-bridge 2 1 12
source-bridge spanning
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
network 130.13.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end
R4#
R4#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 130.13.1.1
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 130.13.5.4
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/8 ms
R4#

R4#sh source
Local Interfaces: receive transmit
srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops
To0 2 2 12 * b 7 7 7 0 0 0
Global RSRB Parameters:
TCP Queue Length maximum: 100
Ring Group 12:
This TCP peer: 130.13.5.4
Maximum output TCP queue length, per peer: 100
Peers: state bg lv pkts_rx pkts_tx expl_gn drops TCP
TCP 130.13.5.4 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
TCP 130.13.1.1 closed 3 0 0 0 0 0
Rings:
bn: 2 rn: 2 local ma: 4008.de5c.a38a TokenRing0 fwd: 0
Explorers: --- input --- --- output ---
spanning all-rings total spanning all-rings total
To0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Explorer fastswitching enabled
Local switched: 0 flushed 0 max Bps 38400
rings inputs bursts throttles output drops
To0 0 0 0 0
R4#


R3#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname R3
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
source-bridge ring-group 12
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
!
!
interface Serial0
ip address 4.4.4.5 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
clockrate 130
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
ip address 130.13.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
ring-speed 16
multiring ip
source-bridge 1 1 12
source-bridge spanning
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
network 130.13.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end
R3#
R3#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 130.13.5.4
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 130.13.1.1
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.5.4, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/9/28 ms
R3#
R3#sh sour
Local Interfaces: receive transmit
srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops

Re: Archive Search [7:28788]

2001-12-11 Thread Paul Borghese

Occasionally this happens.  I will fix the problem. It will take about three
hours to rebuild.

Thanks!

Paul
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Lockwood" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: Archive Search [7:28788]


> The archive search feature seems to be non-functional.  Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/cisco#search
>
> Dan




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frf.12 [7:28840]

2001-12-11 Thread VoIP Guy

Has anyone have a clue as to when frame-relay fragmentation could actually
make a voice call worse?

Steve




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Re: ATM circuit [7:28774]

2001-12-11 Thread steve skinner

pris ,

i am going to answer to the statement itself...

i am not going to say weather it is possible (becuase i don`t know) but the 
passage reads to me like this

an ATM VC can run over any medium becuase it`s a VC..it may leave your HQ on 
ATM but int the Service provider`s backbone it could run on anything...DS3 
t3 MPLS etc.etc.)

this is the message he seems to be trying to get across...and prehaps a 
re-wording is in order???.


my SP (BT)has said that they DONT run atm over ethernet either


steve "not meaning to offend ,just trying to help" skinner



>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
>Reply-To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: ATM circuit [7:28774]
>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 19:46:28 -0500
>
>My co-author added this statement to the book I'm working on:
>
>" an ATM virtual circuit may begin on an OC-3 fiber link, cross over to
>a T3 line, pass across a Gigabit Ethernet fiber backbone, and end up going
>out through an OC-12 fiber link. This may be an implementation of a single
>ATM circuit, however."
>
>Could an ATM virtual circuit really span an Ethernet backbone??
>
>Thanks! I don't want to be one of those authors that propagates
>misinformation. ;-) Seriously, some mistakes are unavoidable, but this one
>seems avoidable (if it is a mistake)
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]

2001-12-11 Thread Hugo M. H. R. Taxa

Well, if you don't have 128MB of memory you're on severe trouble. 
Full-BGP-routing as it stands right now (all 105000 routes of it), takes
around 80MB memory on your router (you can check this thru "sh proc mem" and
checking the process BGP Router). And that is for a single peer giving you
Full-Routing. With two, the memory allocation doesn't double, but may rise
to around 100MB.
So, if you want to have all that fancied'up IOS version (IP PLUS IPSEC
3DES), have Full-BGP-Routing and still be on the safe side, upgrade RAM to
256MB.

Hugo

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> MADMAN
> Sent: terga-feira, 11 de Dezembro de 2001 14:35
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]
> 
> 
> You don't give the more important output, a sh ver!!  If you don't
> have 128M then you have memory problems or lack thereof.
> 
>   dave
> 
> Patrick Donlon wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All
> > 
> > I have a problem with a router running BGP. I have two 
> 7204vxr's running
> BGP
> > connecting to two different service providers, I upgraded 
> the IOS of one
> the
> > routers with version 12.1(5)T10 (IP PLUS IPSEC 3DES) and 
> the boot image, it
> > ran for a week with no problems. I upgraded the other 
> router with the same
> > images and as got memory allocation errors when it 
> established adjacency
> > with the BGP neighbours, see the output below. I'm no BGP 
> expert and I
> > believe there is enough memory in the router, so any 
> suggestions will be
> > appreciated
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Pat
> > 
> > *Nov 25 15:55:29: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> > *Nov 25 15:55:31: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> > *Nov 25 15:55:41: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> > *Nov 25 15:56:07: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 
> 65496 bytes
> failed
> > from
> > 
> > 0x606BE0F4, pool Processor, alignment 0
> > -Process= "BGP Router", ipl= 0, pid= 118
> > -Traceback= 606C1450 606C38B0 606BE0FC 606BE8F0 6082D330 
> 6082D578 6082EA84
> > 
> > 609FA5EC 609FB2B8 61476248 609FB35C 609D61F0 606B7DA4 606B7D90
> > *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
> > *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
> > *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.*Down No memory
> > *Nov 25 15:56:11: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 
> *.*.*.* 3/1 (update
> > 
> > malformed) 0 bytes
> > *Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> > *Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> > *Nov 25 15:56:51: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> -- 
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> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 612-664-3367
> 
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Re: RSRB [7:28835]

2001-12-11 Thread MADMAN

I think a RIF will do.

  dave

"Lupi, Guy" wrote:
> 
> I have set up RSRB in the lab, and I have verified the configurations
> several times with various sources.  The issue that I am seeing is that
when
> I specify the remote neighbor in the configuration, the state transitions
> from dead to closed, but never to open.  My question is, what causes the
> connection to go from closed to open, do I have to have traffic such as SNA
> or  netbios to force the neighbors to come up?  Is there a way to simulate
> this traffic if I only have 3 token ring routers?  Any help is appreciated.
> 
> R4#sh run
> Building configuration...
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname R4
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> !
> !
> source-bridge ring-group 12
> source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
> source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
> !
> !
> interface Serial0
> ip address 4.4.4.4 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> ip ospf interface-retry 0
> no ip mroute-cache
> no fair-queue
> !
> interface Serial1
> no ip address
> no ip directed-broadcast
> shutdown
> !
> interface TokenRing0
> ip address 130.13.5.4 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> ip ospf interface-retry 0
> ring-speed 16
> multiring ip
> source-bridge 2 1 12
> source-bridge spanning
> !
> interface BRI0
> no ip address
> no ip directed-broadcast
> shutdown
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 130.13.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> !
> ip classless
> !
> !
> !
> line con 0
> transport input none
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
> login
> !
> end
> R4#
> R4#ping
> Protocol [ip]:
> Target IP address: 130.13.1.1
> Repeat count [5]:
> Datagram size [100]:
> Timeout in seconds [2]:
> Extended commands [n]: y
> Source address or interface: 130.13.5.4
> Type of service [0]:
> Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
> Validate reply data? [no]:
> Data pattern [0xABCD]:
> Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
> Sweep range of sizes [n]:
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/8 ms
> R4#
> 
> R4#sh source
> Local Interfaces: receive transmit
> srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops
> To0 2 2 12 * b 7 7 7 0 0 0
> Global RSRB Parameters:
> TCP Queue Length maximum: 100
> Ring Group 12:
> This TCP peer: 130.13.5.4
> Maximum output TCP queue length, per peer: 100
> Peers: state bg lv pkts_rx pkts_tx expl_gn drops TCP
> TCP 130.13.5.4 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
> TCP 130.13.1.1 closed 3 0 0 0 0 0
> Rings:
> bn: 2 rn: 2 local ma: 4008.de5c.a38a TokenRing0 fwd: 0
> Explorers: --- input --- --- output ---
> spanning all-rings total spanning all-rings total
> To0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> Explorer fastswitching enabled
> Local switched: 0 flushed 0 max Bps 38400
> rings inputs bursts throttles output drops
> To0 0 0 0 0
> R4#
> 
> R3#sh run
> Building configuration...
> Current configuration:
> !
> version 12.0
> service timestamps debug uptime
> service timestamps log uptime
> no service password-encryption
> !
> hostname R3
> !
> !
> ip subnet-zero
> !
> !
> !
> source-bridge ring-group 12
> source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
> source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
> !
> !
> interface Serial0
> ip address 4.4.4.5 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> ip ospf interface-retry 0
> no ip mroute-cache
> no fair-queue
> clockrate 130
> !
> interface Serial1
> no ip address
> no ip directed-broadcast
> shutdown
> !
> interface TokenRing0
> ip address 130.13.1.1 255.255.255.0
> no ip directed-broadcast
> ip ospf interface-retry 0
> ring-speed 16
> multiring ip
> source-bridge 1 1 12
> source-bridge spanning
> !
> interface BRI0
> no ip address
> no ip directed-broadcast
> shutdown
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> network 130.13.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
> !
> ip classless
> !
> !
> !
> line con 0
> transport input none
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
> login
> !
> end
> R3#
> R3#ping
> Protocol [ip]:
> Target IP address: 130.13.5.4
> Repeat count [5]:
> Datagram size [100]:
> Timeout in seconds [2]:
> Extended commands [n]: y
> Source address or interface: 130.13.1.1
> Type of service [0]:
> Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
> Validate reply data? [no]:
> Data pattern [0xABCD]:
> Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
> Sweep range of sizes [n]:
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.5.4, timeout is 2 seconds:
> !
> Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/9/28 ms
> R3#
> R3#sh sour
> Local Interfaces: receive transmit
> srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops
> To0 1 1 12 * f 7 7 7 0 0 0
> Global RSRB Parameters:
> TCP Queue Length maximum: 100
> Ring Group 12:
> This TCP peer: 130.13.1.1
> Maximum output TCP queue length, per peer: 100
> Peers: state bg lv pkts_rx pkts_tx expl_gn drops TCP
> TC

Multiple Virtual-Templates?!?!?! [7:28836]

2001-12-11 Thread Michael Williams

My question is about being able to use multiple Virtual-Templates for PPP
Multilink applications.  Picture this:  A router (3640) configured to handle
analog and ISDN dial-up via ISDN PRI and Mica modems that also has 2
point-to-point T1s attached to it's serial ports for WAN connectivity. 
Currently, the 2 point-to-point T1s are configured for multilink, and I have
multilink setup to use Virtual-Template1.  The way I understand it by giving
the command "multilink virtual-template 1", any interface configured to use
multilink will attempt to use the virtual-template1 and join the
virtual-access1 multilink bundle (and perhaps upon attempting this, it
realizes the endpoints aren't the same and it creates another virtual-access
interface for the "new" bundle, but that's another issue =).  However, I
would like to enable ppp multilink on the ISDN lines so that people dialing
in with ISDN (BRI) can bond both channels.  Is there a way to specify for
the Dialer interface (or whateve) to use ppp multilink but to use, say,
Virtual-Template 2 (so that I could configure Virtual-Template2 specifically
for ISDN dial-up).

I've been digging around Cisco's site, and the main article I found on
configuring Virtual-Templates/Profiles says one limitation is:

"Although a system can have as many as 25 virtual template interfaces, one
template for each virtual access application is a more realistic limit. "

This seems to imply that I could setup a template the for WAN multilink
"application" and another for the ISDN "application".

Am I reading this wrong?  This question comes more out of curiousity than
anything else.  We have other routers setup with T1 multilinks to a few
sites, and they all use the same Virtual-Template, and that's not a big
deal  But I was curious to know if it were possible to have multilink
somehow specify which Virtual-Template to use depending on the interface
type or application...

TIA,
Mike W.


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RSRB [7:28835]

2001-12-11 Thread Lupi, Guy

I have set up RSRB in the lab, and I have verified the configurations
several times with various sources.  The issue that I am seeing is that when
I specify the remote neighbor in the configuration, the state transitions
from dead to closed, but never to open.  My question is, what causes the
connection to go from closed to open, do I have to have traffic such as SNA
or  netbios to force the neighbors to come up?  Is there a way to simulate
this traffic if I only have 3 token ring routers?  Any help is appreciated.


R4#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname R4
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
source-bridge ring-group 12
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
!
!
interface Serial0
ip address 4.4.4.4 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
ip address 130.13.5.4 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
ring-speed 16
multiring ip
source-bridge 2 1 12
source-bridge spanning
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
network 130.13.5.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end
R4#
R4#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 130.13.1.1
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 130.13.5.4
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.1.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/8 ms
R4#

R4#sh source
Local Interfaces: receive transmit
srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops
To0 2 2 12 * b 7 7 7 0 0 0
Global RSRB Parameters:
TCP Queue Length maximum: 100
Ring Group 12:
This TCP peer: 130.13.5.4
Maximum output TCP queue length, per peer: 100
Peers: state bg lv pkts_rx pkts_tx expl_gn drops TCP
TCP 130.13.5.4 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
TCP 130.13.1.1 closed 3 0 0 0 0 0
Rings:
bn: 2 rn: 2 local ma: 4008.de5c.a38a TokenRing0 fwd: 0
Explorers: --- input --- --- output ---
spanning all-rings total spanning all-rings total
To0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Explorer fastswitching enabled
Local switched: 0 flushed 0 max Bps 38400
rings inputs bursts throttles output drops
To0 0 0 0 0
R4#


R3#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname R3
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
source-bridge ring-group 12
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.1.1
source-bridge remote-peer 12 tcp 130.13.5.4
!
!
interface Serial0
ip address 4.4.4.5 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
clockrate 130
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
ip address 130.13.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
ring-speed 16
multiring ip
source-bridge 1 1 12
source-bridge spanning
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 4.4.4.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
network 130.13.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end
R3#
R3#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 130.13.5.4
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: 130.13.1.1
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 130.13.5.4, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/9/28 ms
R3#
R3#sh sour
Local Interfaces: receive transmit
srn bn trn r p s n max hops cnt cnt drops
To0 1 1 12 * f 7 7 7 0 0 0
Global RSRB Parameters:
TCP Queue Length maximum: 100
Ring Group 12:
This TCP peer: 130.13.1.1
Maximum output TCP queue length, per peer: 100
Peers: state bg lv pkts_rx pkts_tx expl_gn drops TCP
TCP 130.13.1.1 - 3 0 0 0 0 0
TCP 130.13.5.4 closed 3 0 0 0 0 0
Rings:
bn: 1 rn: 1 local ma: 4008.de6c.6382 TokenRing0 fwd: 0
Explorers: --- input --- --- output ---
spanning all-rings total spanning all-rings total
To0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Explorer fastswitching enabled
Local switched: 0 flushed 0 max Bps 38400
rings inputs bursts throttles output drops
To0 0 0 0 0
R3#




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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

>>What's your point?
This is total crap coming from a self proclaimed moderator.
>>The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much

That is my point.
-
>>until you have done some real research
-Anil (PhD [Comp-Sci Tokyo Inst of Technology]- Sister School of MIT)
Does that count??


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From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 2:14 PM
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


>Please stop sending messages about this topic
>(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
My sincere apologies

-Anil



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>
>It must be out of date :-)

Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
What's your point?

Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man page? Have
you checked some RFCs?

Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do its
messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What problems
were its creators trying to solve?

Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic) until
you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted page 9 of
a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list could care
less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book. This list is for people
studying for advanced Cisco certifications.

Priscilla

>-Anil
>
>
>5. Session Layer
>The session layer provides services in the application to manage inter-host
>communication. Think of this function as the old-time telephone switchboard
>operator: first, watching for a light on the switchboard indicating a
>connection was needed, next connecting and monitoring the call, and then
>finally disconnecting it by pulling the plug. For example, Network File
>System (NFS) is like an extended feature Telnet program for UNIX that keeps
>a connection (session) alive and available until the terminate command is
>given. Other examples include Structured Query Language (SQL), Remote
>Procedure Call (RPC), and X-Windows.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:13 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>That's 40% right.
>
>SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.
>
>RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.
>
>We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle books can
>teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where protocol
>behavior is concerned.
>
>A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by Howard
>Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Yes, I checked it out..
> >Session layer protocols include:
> >SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
> >Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
> >
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
> >To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
> >Someone please correct me.
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> >At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> > >Hi, there,
> > >
> > >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
>"Remember
> > >that none of the upper
> > >layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am
>wondering
> > >if the session layer doesn't
> > >use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
> > >layer in other host?
> >
> >I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out
of
> >context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
> >statement is definitely "wrong."
> >
> >However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
> >them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking

Re: PayPal Scam [7:28519]

2001-12-11 Thread Dennis

And how many times were you ripped off?


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> To:
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: PayPal Scam [7:28519]
>
>
> > Jason wrote:
> > >
> > > Found this on one of the newsgroup... Might be good to forward this to
> your
> > > friends. I encounter the same problem and thought I was the only one
> until
> > I
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> you
> > > will see a few other similar sites !! Be WARNED.
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> > I disagree with your need to post this.
> > This is a Cisco study newsgroup and frankly I personally
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Re: BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]

2001-12-11 Thread MADMAN

You don't give the more important output, a sh ver!!  If you don't
have 128M then you have memory problems or lack thereof.

  dave

Patrick Donlon wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I have a problem with a router running BGP. I have two 7204vxr's running
BGP
> connecting to two different service providers, I upgraded the IOS of one
the
> routers with version 12.1(5)T10 (IP PLUS IPSEC 3DES) and the boot image, it
> ran for a week with no problems. I upgraded the other router with the same
> images and as got memory allocation errors when it established adjacency
> with the BGP neighbours, see the output below. I'm no BGP expert and I
> believe there is enough memory in the router, so any suggestions will be
> appreciated
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pat
> 
> *Nov 25 15:55:29: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> *Nov 25 15:55:31: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> *Nov 25 15:55:41: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> *Nov 25 15:56:07: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 65496 bytes
failed
> from
> 
> 0x606BE0F4, pool Processor, alignment 0
> -Process= "BGP Router", ipl= 0, pid= 118
> -Traceback= 606C1450 606C38B0 606BE0FC 606BE8F0 6082D330 6082D578 6082EA84
> 
> 609FA5EC 609FB2B8 61476248 609FB35C 609D61F0 606B7DA4 606B7D90
> *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
> *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
> *Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.*Down No memory
> *Nov 25 15:56:11: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor *.*.*.* 3/1 (update
> 
> malformed) 0 bytes
> *Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> *Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
> *Nov 25 15:56:51: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
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Re: ATM circuit [7:28774]

2001-12-11 Thread MADMAN

We provide a similiar service, labled LSS, LAN switching service. 
Customer gets either a 10 or 100M connection which we carry over DS3 or
OC3 ATM. At the customer prem the router is actually a bridge or if you
will, transparent LAN.

  Dave

Gregg Malcolm wrote:
> 
> Priscilla,
> 
> I have to agree with you on this.  I know of no method to carry ATM over an
> Ethernet.  The opposite of course, is true.  If the author would have said
> that ATM can run over chicken wire, I would find that much more
> believeable.  ATM can run over nearly any phyiscal media.
> 
> BTW - Do you encounter service providers at all?  A Tranparent LAN (TLAN)
is
> quite a popular term with them.  Just a bridged 1483 PVC.  Until I worked
> with that sector, never heard of it.
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RE: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Harper

Well, think about it this way.  You have a test with 26
questions.
You get a


===
Section 1: 100%
Section 2: 33%
Section 3: 33%

Final Score: 85%

===

It doesn't make much since until you consider what they
don't tell you.
Section 1: 20 questions
Section 2: 3 questions
Section 3: 3 questions

so,

(1*20) + (0.33*3) + (0.33*3) = 22
22/26 = 84.6%

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For a long time now I had ignored the Cisco scoring pattern,
the bottom line
is that you passed. When I was writing my CCNP/CCDP series,
I discover that
in 2 of the papers I got on each 2 100%, a few 30-something
% and an
embarasing 0% but the final score read 80-something %, close
to 90%. From
that time I start ignoring their scoring system, Cisco need
to re-write
their scoring algorithm.

Congrats, on to the big moster.

Regards.
Oletu

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To:
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: Passed CCIE Written [7:28772]


> Passed CCIE Written today, Was not a bit impressed with my
score, got 71%
> with
> a pass score of 70%. Just scraped the bucket with this
one. Although I
can't
> understand there scoring method. I got 100% in 3 items,
80% in 2 and
between
> 50 and 70% in the rest. :-)
>
> Anyway, a pass is a pass no matter what the score is.
Thanks for all the
> information and thoughts.
>
> Cheers Derek
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RE: C2620 with NM-1FE1R2W? [7:28716]

2001-12-11 Thread Mcfadden, Chuck

Actually this NM does not work in the 26xx series.  I believe the logic is
that the processor in the 26xx cannot handle the additional FE cards,
however that's just my guess (I mean a 2621 would have two right?).  You
will find that any NM-FExxx will not work in a 26xx router.
Sorry 'bout the bad news,
ccie1ab

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Theres a good croos-referencing tool at:


http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/Support/HWSWmatrix/hwswmatrix.cgi

It lets you search by chassis model and module model and shows the IOS
version supported.

Feargal

Feargal Ledwidge
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TeraGlobal Communications


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The blurb actually states it is not compatible with the 2600. Check the NM
table towards the bottom of the link.

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Here is a marketing blurb that appears to say it is supported on the 2600
platform but me thinks it lies ;)

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/prodlit/2636m_ds.htm

  Dave

Johan Hjalmarsson wrote:
>
> Does a NM-1FE1R2W= work in a Cisco 2620 router?
>
> I thought all NM's worked in both the C26xx and C36xx series, but I
> can't get this configuration to work. When I look in the HW/SW
> compability matrix only SW for the C36xx is shown for this module.
>
> Any suggestions?
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Re: ATM circuit [7:28774]

2001-12-11 Thread MADMAN

Not ours

  Dave



Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> My co-author added this statement to the book I'm working on:
> 
> " an ATM virtual circuit may begin on an OC-3 fiber link, cross over to
> a T3 line, pass across a Gigabit Ethernet fiber backbone, and end up going
> out through an OC-12 fiber link. This may be an implementation of a single
> ATM circuit, however."
> 
> Could an ATM virtual circuit really span an Ethernet backbone??
> 
> Thanks! I don't want to be one of those authors that propagates
> misinformation. ;-) Seriously, some mistakes are unavoidable, but this one
> seems avoidable (if it is a mistake)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]

2001-12-11 Thread anil

>Please stop sending messages about this topic
>(or any other topic) until you have done some real research.
I had no idea you were the moderator of this group.
My sincere apologies

-Anil



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Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]


At 06:18 PM 12/8/01, anil wrote:
>This is from Cisco Oct 2001 Packet..
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/oct01/p76-training.html
>
>It must be out of date :-)

Not "out of date." Just wrong. You can keep coming up with wrong material.
What's your point?

Have you looked at NFS with a Sniffer? Have you read a Unix man page? Have
you checked some RFCs?

Have you considered what NFS does? What are its functions? What do its
messages look like? What protocols below it does it rely on? What problems
were its creators trying to solve?

Please stop sending messages about this topic (or any other topic) until
you have done some real research. In your last message you quoted page 9 of
a CCNA book. Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody on this list could care
less what it says on page 9 of a CCNA book. This list is for people
studying for advanced Cisco certifications.

Priscilla

>-Anil
>
>
>5. Session Layer
>The session layer provides services in the application to manage inter-host
>communication. Think of this function as the old-time telephone switchboard
>operator: first, watching for a light on the switchboard indicating a
>connection was needed, next connecting and monitoring the call, and then
>finally disconnecting it by pulling the plug. For example, Network File
>System (NFS) is like an extended feature Telnet program for UNIX that keeps
>a connection (session) alive and available until the terminate command is
>given. Other examples include Structured Query Language (SQL), Remote
>Procedure Call (RPC), and X-Windows.
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 3:13 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
>
>
>That's 40% right.
>
>SQL, NFS, and XWindows are application-layer protocols.
>
>RPC and NetBIOS are session-layer protocols.
>
>We often have discussions about which books are best. Todd Lammle books can
>teach you basic router configuration. They are often wrong where protocol
>behavior is concerned.
>
>A better reference for learning about OSI is the OSI paper by Howard
>Berkowitz at http://www.certificationzone.com.
>
>Priscilla
>
>At 11:32 PM 12/7/01, anil wrote:
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Yes, I checked it out..
> >Session layer protocols include:
> >SQL, NFS, RPC, NetBios, Xwindows are examples of session layer protocols.
> >Page 9 of CCNA 2nd Edition  study guide Todd Lammle
> >
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: anil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:17 PM
> >To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> > >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much
> >Wait a sec, I thought SQL, NFS and netbios were session layer protocols?
> >Someone please correct me.
> >-Anil
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Does session layer protocol use IP address ? [7:28378]
> >
> >
> >At 02:59 AM 12/7/01, mlh wrote:
> > >Hi, there,
> > >
> > >I read Todd Lammle's CCNA2.0 study guide and found this sentence:
>"Remember
> > >that none of the upper
> > >layers know anything about networking or network addresses." I am
>wondering
> > >if the session layer doesn't
> > >use network address, how can it establish a dialogue with other session
> > >layer in other host?
> >
> >I would probably disagree with Todd's statement, although it's taken out
of
> >context and you haven't given us enough information to say that the
> >statement is definitely "wrong."
> >
> >However, try to picture the numerous OSI pictures you have seen. Most of
> >them show horizontal lines between a layer on one host talking to the
same
> >layer on another host. So the session layer talks to the session layer on
> >the other host. That's probably what Todd was getting at.
> >
> >However, the pictures also show vertical lines. A layer calls on a layer
> >below to provide services. Each layer offers services to layers above it.
> >
> >The session layer is an elusive beast that is not implemented much. But
one
> >example might help. NetBIOS is a session layer. On a Windows client, when
> >you access a Server Message Block (SMB) server, NetBIOS 

Re: visual snmp client [7:28825]

2001-12-11 Thread Dennis

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SNMP Help [7:28826]

2001-12-11 Thread Russ Kreigh

Can someone help me figure out the MIB's to get information from the show
interface commands?

I am specifically looking for.
-input/output
-crc
-carrier transitions
-overruns

Thanks

-Russ




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visual snmp client [7:28825]

2001-12-11 Thread ndabarasa michel

hello,
i want to be able to monitor interfaces on my snmp_enabled
devices.

i wantto know what snmp client i can use(if possible a
visual and easy one).
links to documentations highly appreciated.

 
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Re: PIXL: no client connectivity [7:28685]

2001-12-11 Thread fahim

Hi
It seems to me that you have missed access group command
For example, use the following command statement to ping from the inside
interface to the outside interface:
access-group acl_ping in interface outside.
Once you define an access list you have to specify the access group command
for each interface thru which you want the icmp packets to pass. hope this
helps

fahim
ccna. ccda, css1

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>
> access-list acl_ping permit icmp any any
>
> Should you add the following to permit http traffic at least. You will
> probably need dns resolution as well.
>
> access-list acl_ping permit tcp 80 any any
>
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> Subject: PIXL: no client connectivity [7:28685]
>
>
> From a client (inside) I can ping the inside interface of the PIX .
>
> From a client (outside) I can ping the outside interface of the PIX.
>
> However no (inside) client manages to ping or do any sort of traffic
> with hosts outside the PIX.
>
> I have the feeling that I have a Global or PAT issue.
>
> Do you spot where my problem is?
>
> Thank you!!!
>
> BTECHPIX# sh config
> : Saved
> :
> PIX Version 5.1(2)
> nameif ethernet0 outside security0
> nameif ethernet1 inside security100
> enable password  encrypted
> passwd  encrypted
> hostname BTECHPIX
> fixup protocol ftp 21
> fixup protocol http 80
> fixup protocol h323 1720
> fixup protocol rsh 514
> fixup protocol smtp 25
> fixup protocol sqlnet 1521
> names
> access-list acl_ping permit icmp any any
> pager lines 24
> logging on
> no logging timestamp
> no logging standby
> no logging console
> no logging monitor
> no logging buffered
> no logging trap
> no logging history
> logging facility 20
> logging queue 512
> interface ethernet0 auto
> interface ethernet1 auto
> mtu outside 1500
> mtu inside 1500
> ip address outside 209.152.115.123 255.255.255.0
> ip address inside 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0
> no failover
> failover timeout 0:00:00
> failover ip address outside 0.0.0.0
> failover ip address inside 0.0.0.0
> arp timeout 14400
> global (outside) 1 209.152.115.125
> nat (inside) 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
> route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 209.152.115.1 1
> timeout xlate 3:00:00 conn 1:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00
> timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 timeout uauth 0:05:00 absolute
> aaa-server TACACS+ protocol tacacs+ aaa-server RADIUS protocol radius no
> snmp-server location no snmp-server contact snmp-server community public
> no snmp-server enable traps floodguard enable isakmp identity hostname
> .




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Re: 3rd party Flash memory [7:28823]

2001-12-11 Thread NKP

Hi Patrick ,
   I   am using third party DRAM and Flash on my 2600 series routers
, and they have been working fine for the last 3 months , and they cost
fraction of the price as compared to the original Cisco Price list  , I have
upgraded my Flash and DRAM on 4 of my routers so far and  I have bought them
all from anthonypanda.com .

Navin Parwal

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> Hi everyone
>
> I am looking at purchasing flash memory cards for Cat6Ks from Kingston,
I'd
> just like to hear from anyone who has done the same and whether the flash
> cards worked OK
>
> cheers




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3rd party Flash memory [7:28823]

2001-12-11 Thread Patrick Donlon

Hi everyone

I am looking at purchasing flash memory cards for Cat6Ks from Kingston, I'd
just like to hear from anyone who has done the same and whether the flash
cards worked OK

cheers




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Re: Cannot boot from bootstrap eventhout configured wi [7:28821]

2001-12-11 Thread WKPhoon

if there is the case, wat is the purpose to be served to have the bootstrap
ios if  can not be boot up for those router series ?




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From: "Shah Nick" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: Cannot boot from bootstrap eventhout configured wi [7:28808]


> I think I found an answer, basically only a few of the routers are having
> the RXBOOT image on them. yes, 2500, 3000, 4000 (i know for sure that 5400
> has it) and others... but nowhere in the list did i find 17xx or 36xx etc.
> So its safe to assume that they dont have the rxboot image.
>
> Check this url..
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/fun_c
/fcprt1/fccfgtoo.htm
>
> Nick




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Re: x21 workable cable length at 2Mb [7:28752]

2001-12-11 Thread Gaz

Thanks Jenny,

This table was the American equivalent of the UK table I saw with E1 at
approx 8 metres.
Everything I found suggested the same. I've had a bit of an argument with a
company who swore blind that the 20 metres was well within limits and
insisted that the install go ahead.
Now I'm having to move the router and run twisted pair.
Your confirmation is good enough for me - I'm off for an argument :-)

Thanks,


Gaz


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> There is a table that seems to be reproduced in many parts of CCO, in the
> installation guides...
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/core/cis7505/portadpt/serial
/pa_4t/2660over.htm#19815
> Table 1-1.
>
> This claims that the maximum distance for X.21 at T1 speed is 15 metres.
> Being US-centric, it doesn't bother mentioning a maximum distance for
those
> of us who use 2 Mbps ;-) but basically the distance gets shorter as the
> speed gets higher.
> All versions of the table that I have spotted give distances for lower
> speeds (2400 bps, 4800 bps, etc up to 56 kbps) and then jump to 1544 kbps,
> so it's a bit difficult to extrapolate, but I'd guess that an 8 metre
limit
> for 2 Mbps may be being cautious and a 20 metre limit may be being
> optimistic.
> I'm afraid I can't give any practical examples - I've only used standard
> short Cisco cables for speeds above 64 kbps.
>
> JMcL
>
> - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/12/2001 11:32 am -
>
>
> "Gaz"
>
> cc:
> Sent by: Subject: x21 workable cable
> length at 2Mb
> nobody@groups
> [7:28752]
>
> tudy.com
>
>
>
> 11/12/2001
> 09:04
> am
>
> Please
> respond
> to
>
> "Gaz"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Could I have a concensus of opinion please for maximum workable cable
> length
> for a CABX21 - MT running at 2Mb.
> Seen various web pages which suggest differing lengths, and I suppose,
> depending how old the web page is, it may differ.
> I have a 20m cable working fine at 512k, but having problems at 2Mb over
> the
> same cable. Pretty sure it is the distance problem and we're changing to
> G703 to get round it, but would like to know where the cut off is for 2Mb.
>
> I believed it to be about 25 feet (8m) prior to this install, but was
> assured that 20m would be OK.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gaz




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Re: Off Topic - Good 3920 simulator [7:28802]

2001-12-11 Thread Jason

Chuck,

It's cheaper to use some cardboards and do screen shots of the 3920 and you
get the same effect as using the 3920 simulator... cause that's what it does
!!


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> NLI ( AKA the Boot**Camp Company ) is now marketing the 3920 token ring
> simulator developed by Dmitri at vConsole. This according to Brad Ellis,
in
> some marketing materials.
>
> For those who can't invest in the real thing, this simulator is an
excellent
> way to learn the menus. Used in conjunction with the materials freely
> available on CCO, it can be a good way to spend some time while preparing
> for the CCIE Lab. ( yes the 3920 is on the advertised equipment list on
> CCO )
>
> downside - can't hook up to any equipment to test workability
>
> upside - looks and feels just like the real thing. great way to gain
comfort
> with the interface.
>
> best wishes
>
> Chuck
> ( no I don't get anything for saying nice things about this product )




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BGP and memory allocation errros [7:28819]

2001-12-11 Thread Patrick Donlon

Hi All

I have a problem with a router running BGP. I have two 7204vxr's running BGP
connecting to two different service providers, I upgraded the IOS of one the
routers with version 12.1(5)T10 (IP PLUS IPSEC 3DES) and the boot image, it
ran for a week with no problems. I upgraded the other router with the same
images and as got memory allocation errors when it established adjacency
with the BGP neighbours, see the output below. I'm no BGP expert and I
believe there is enough memory in the router, so any suggestions will be
appreciated

Regards

Pat

*Nov 25 15:55:29: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:55:31: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:55:41: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:07: %SYS-2-MALLOCFAIL: Memory allocation of 65496 bytes failed
from

0x606BE0F4, pool Processor, alignment 0
-Process= "BGP Router", ipl= 0, pid= 118
-Traceback= 606C1450 606C38B0 606BE0FC 606BE8F0 6082D330 6082D578 6082EA84

609FA5EC 609FB2B8 61476248 609FB35C 609D61F0 606B7DA4 606B7D90
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:08: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.*Down No memory
*Nov 25 15:56:11: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor *.*.*.* 3/1 (update

malformed) 0 bytes
*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:37: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up
*Nov 25 15:56:51: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor *.*.*.* Up




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OT: Lab for Sale [7:28818]

2001-12-11 Thread Richard Chang

Hi,

I have the following equipment for sale:

2503   8/8
2504   8/8   w/ mau
2513   8/8
25118/8   w/ Octal
4000M 16/8 1 eth, 1 tok, and 4 port ser.
2522 16\8
Cat 2926 runs same IOS as Cat 5
ISDN Simulator, Emutel Solo.

I will include serial crossover cables, console cables,
power cables, transceivers, Token ring hubs, some additional DRAM and
8MB flash I believe. Lots of choices for IOS.

I would like to sell everything together but will
consider selling items seprately. I would like
$9,000.00 for everything listed above.

The lab is located in southern California area.

Thanks for looking!

Richard




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RE: Off Topic - Good 3920 simulator [7:28802]

2001-12-11 Thread Nick S.

gz joe wrote:
> 
> where to download it?thanks

Costs 80$. go here : http://www.ccbootcamp.com/shoponline.htm

Nick




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RE: Cannot boot from bootstrap eventhout configured wi [7:28808]

2001-12-11 Thread Shah Nick

I think I found an answer, basically only a few of the routers are having
the RXBOOT image on them. yes, 2500, 3000, 4000 (i know for sure that 5400
has it) and others... but nowhere in the list did i find 17xx or 36xx etc.
So its safe to assume that they dont have the rxboot image.

Check this url..

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/fun_c/fcprt1/fccfgtoo.htm

Nick


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RE: Cannot boot from bootstrap eventhout configured wi [7:28808]

2001-12-11 Thread Shah Nick

Yes, I have seen this on 1720, I agree with you that you cant make it boot
the bootstrap ios by using register value as 0x101 or 0x2101, however I
didnt pursue it further, since it wasnt crucial for me. I guess it must be
somewhere on CCO.

Nick


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