RE: Strange Problem: Everything works fine but the Router can [7:34302]
use the show IP route and there will more than likely be 2 routes out -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 February 2002 07:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strange Problem: Everything works fine but the Router can [7:34171] The every other packet behavior sometimes indicates multiple static routes, do a sh ip ro for the dest and see whats there.. On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Hamid Ali Asgari wrote: Hi group, I have a router which is the main gateway of my network. All the hosts on my network can successfully ping everywhere on the internet, but the ROUTER itself has always a success rate at 50%. Bellow is the ping result: Router#ping Protocol [ip]: Target IP address: 193.0.0.193 Repeat count [5]: 10 Datagram size [100]: Timeout in seconds [2]: Extended commands [n]: Sweep range of sizes [n]: Type escape sequence to abort. Sending 10, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 193.0.0.193, timeout is 2 seconds: !.!.!.!.!. Success rate is 50 percent (5/10), round-trip min/avg/max = Same time my computer which is exactly behind the router can ping 193.0.0.193 without any errors. No routing protocol is running on the router and it's using simple static routes and all of its interfaces have VALID IP addresses. Any idea what the problem is ??? Thanks in advance, __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34302t=34302 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Your Password at GroupStudy! [7:34303]
Any info on the CCIP Cetification Regards, Indra Moodley DNS Administrator Satellite Data Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your Password at GroupStudy! Welcome to GroupStudy.com. Your username and password are as follows: Your Username: Lamagra Your Password: rkwfcnezvp You may login and change your password as desired. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34303t=34303 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP address with Cable on a Cisco router [7:34274]
I assume you are getting your IP from a computer plugged into the cable modem and then using that address to IP your router One thing to rememebr is this.. Most cable modems these days will rememebr the MAC that it was attatched to.. so you will either need to set the MAC on your router so it looks like the computer you where using... .. or just reboot the cable modem after your router is plugged into it.. that will allow it to grab to new MAC address from the router. You may need to do that even if you are using: int e0 ip address dhcp McHugh Randy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone please tell me if they have been able to make a Cisco 2514 Router hold a DHCP address to an ethernet interface so I can do NAT with overload for me cable internet connection? Once I get my dhcp address from my provider I hard code that on to eth 0 which is pluged into the cable modem. on the router along with static default route with the dns info but still cant ping out to the internet from the router. DSL works fine but cable does not. thanks Randy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34304t=34274 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IOS software enquiry [7:34305]
Hi.. I have problem downloading my new CISCO IOS software for CISCO 2500 3600 router, I had gone to the following website, but I can't find any category for my type for router, Can u please giude me http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/sw-ios.shtml Besides, I had download IOS for my 2900 catalyst switch. But there are two file available c2900XL-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC2.bin and c2900XL-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC2.tar. One is binary only and one is binary and HTML . What is meant by with HTML, does it mean it come with web mode. Sim _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34305t=34305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Portware 2.9.1.0 on AS5200 [7:34301]
Luca, We updated our POP with 5 AS5300 two months ago to IOS: c5300-is-mz_122-2_XB.bin (5300 Software (C5300-IS-M), Version 12.2(2)XB) and MICA Portware 2.9.1.0. Until now we don't have any issues we didn't have before. Good look, Stefan At 02:59 04.02.2002 -0500, Luca Vanini wrote: Hello, I would enable V.92 on an AS5200 with MICA Modems. There is someone who applied Portware 2.9.1.0 on Cisco5200? In this case, with which IOS version? It's all ok after 2.9.1.0? Luca Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34306t=34301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIM Dense Mode or PIM Sparse Mode [7:34307]
Hi wondering what I should use in a envirionment where I have 2 core switches 6513 with sup2 and msfc2 and pfc2 modules onboard. have about 5 access switches 6513 with sup2 modules connected via trunks to the core. Lots of users on different VLANs behind different access switch will use the few multicast stream there are. how to decide which mode to use PIM DM or PIM SM. thanks in advance Eve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34307t=34307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE R/S Lab differences [7:34308]
HI, did anyone know if there are differences between the CCIE labs worldwide ? Mit freundlichen Gr|_en Udo Konstantin / koud , GS KA NEEF LAPPCOM GmbH Systemhaus f|r IT-Lvsungen Windeckstrasse 8 76135 Karlsruhe Tel: +49 721/8606-215 Mobil: +49 172/7271578 *215 Fax: +49 721/8606-264 E-Mail/Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes: Udo Konstantin/Infra CS @SULZERINFRA Website: http://www.neef.de/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34308t=34308 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34312t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Do you mean gt and lt for greater than or less than specific port numbers? Use extended access lists with an ACL number of 100 - 199 and a specific protocol (TCP / UDP). Eg: Access-list 101 deny tcp 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.255 host 192.168.200.1 gt 1024 HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dk Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34313t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Its not related to port ranges but network prefix ranges .. (prefix lists have replaced Distribute lists for Routing policy control )access-lists are no longer used. This is what is says in the book .. the ge-value specifies the range of the prefix length to be matched for prefixes which are more secific than the network/prefix length. The range is assumed to be from ge-value to 32 if only the ge-value is specified the le-value specifies the range of the prefix length to be matched for prefixes which are more secific than the network/prefix length.The range is assumed to be from prefix length to le-value if only the le attribute is specified. .examples ip prefix-list test1 permit 10.10.0.0/16 le 16 or ip prefix-list test2 permit 172.0.0.0/8 ge 18 or ip prefix-list test3 permit 172.0.0.0/8 ge 16 le 24 I think i've made that about as clear as mud ! - Original Message - From: Scott Riley To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Do you mean gt and lt for greater than or less than specific port numbers? Use extended access lists with an ACL number of 100 - 199 and a specific protocol (TCP / UDP). Eg: Access-list 101 deny tcp 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.255 host 192.168.200.1 gt 1024 HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dk Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34314t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
gt = greater than so gt /23 = subnets with a mask of above /23. lt = less than so lt /17 = subnets with a mask less than /17. so using prefix lists can you give me an answer which would do the following:- 1. Deny subnets of class B networks 2. Deny supernets of Class C networks 3. Deny networks starting 193.x.x.x 4. permit all else. For the 1st one ask yourself what makes a class B network a Class B network? From this you will find out what your /x prefix should be. Then what mask = subnets of a class B network gt or lt. and so on -Original Message- From: dk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34315t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Hi David, here is an example of the le and ge in prefix lists: ip prefix-list greater seq 5 deny 201.1.5.0/24 ge 29 This will deny anything from 201.1.5.0/24 thru 201.1.5.0/29 The advantage of the ge command is that now you need only one entry to allow or deny the entire range. ip prefix-list less seq 10 permit 192.168.5.0/0 le 26 This will allow anything from 192.168.5.0/24 thru 192.168.5.0/26; again, it saves a lot of entries. Hope this helps. Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34317t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIM Dense Mode or PIM Sparse Mode [7:34307]
Hi Eve, To me this sounds like a definite case of PIM Dense-Mode. This is what Cisco says: Dense mode PIM is designed for the following conditions: Senders and receivers are in close proximity to one another. There are few senders and many receivers. The volume of multicast traffic is high. Sparse-mode PIM is designed for the following conditions: There are few receivers in a group. Senders and receivers are separated by WAN links. Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34318t=34307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
More or less like /CIDR: Le to 30 and ge to 27 means all subnets with mask between /27 and /30 included. Constantin Tivig -Original Message- From: Scott Riley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Do you mean gt and lt for greater than or less than specific port numbers? Use extended access lists with an ACL number of 100 - 199 and a specific protocol (TCP / UDP). Eg: Access-list 101 deny tcp 192.168.100.0 0.0.0.255 host 192.168.200.1 gt 1024 HTH, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of dk Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34320t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
I disagree. There is not a Cisco test, nor any technical test for that matter that a person can't pass with a whole lot of studying and some lab time. Yes the CCIE lab is extremely difficult. But to say it's impossible to pass without 'real world' experience is just wrong. Regards, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Is there such D CCIE with no experience I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole point of a CCIE Lab is to prove the experience you have gained in the field and how you go about building and troubleshooting a network. Friends of mine that are good engineers with extensive experience failed the exam first time. The amount of time you get in the lab exam gives you no time to refer back to the documentation cd or to even think to hard!, you have to know exactly what to do and how to do it and you have to do as fast as you possibly can. Anyone that has attempted the lab knows how draining it is both physically and especially mentally. It is not easy! For those of us attempting the lab and for those that have already achieved there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good troubleshooting base. Good Luck -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back to building race cars. -Original Message- From: Joe Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34322t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IOS software enquiry [7:34305]
Hi Sim, it looks like you are not logged on as a CCO user. The link to the downloadable software section should be http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/sw-ios.shtml after you have logged on. Which image are you looking for ? The installable software for your 2900 switch is contained in the .bin file. The .tar files are release notes or special instruction files provided to instruct customers of special handling. Some notes are also provided in .html files that are compatible for viewing with a web browser. That means the .tar files do not contain any software that you can load to your switch. Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34321t=34305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Dave, GE means greater than or equal to, while LE means less than or equal to. So, a prefix list that has ge 25 would only match prefixes with masks of /25 or greater. If you had le 24 it would match prefixes with masks less than or equal to 24. John Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, McCallum, Robert (Robert.McCallum@let- it-be-thus.com) wrote: gt = greater than so gt /23 = subnets with a mask of above /23. lt = less than so lt /17 = subnets with a mask less than /17. so using prefix lists can you give me an answer which would do the following:- 1. Deny subnets of class B networks 2. Deny supernets of Class C networks 3. Deny networks starting 193.x.x.x 4. permit all else. For the 1st one ask yourself what makes a class B network a Class B network? From this you will find out what your /x prefix should be. Then what mask = subnets of a class B network gt or lt. and so on -Original Message- From: dk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David _ CCIE Security list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/security.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34323t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN problems... [7:34324]
I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it for me... thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34324t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NLSP Summarization [7:34326]
Hi All, I am trying to get route sumarization working with NLSP. I have r1 that has networks as follows: Fa0/0 ipx net aaa1 Fa0/1 ipx net aaa2 I have enabled route-aggregation under NLSP but cannot figure out the acl to get only a summary of ' aaa ' advertised to r2 and not aaa1 and aaa2. configs : interface FastEthernet0/0 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast duplex auto speed auto ipx network AAA1 ipx nlsp r1 enable ! interface FastEthernet0/1 no ip address no ip directed-broadcast no keepalive duplex auto speed auto ipx network AAA2 ipx nlsp r1 enable ! ipx router nlsp r1 area-address 0 0 route-aggregation ! ipx access-list summary r1sum deny AAA0 FFF0 permit -1 Any ideas would be appreciated Regards Richard Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34326t=34326 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: wireless problem. [7:34110]
yeah, I remove the wirless card on my laptop completely unsistalled the drivers and rebooted, then i installed it again and now everything works fine... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ocsiC Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wireless problem. [7:34110] Have you tied the TCP/IP stack to the Wireless PCCard?? 1. Check the local loop-back address: ping 127.0.0.1 if this doesn't work then check if there is a IRQ conflict with the PC-Card drivers/hardware 2. Check the IP node address: ping x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is the IP address of your node) 3. If DHCP doesn't work, check that the BOOTP (UDP on port 67) is forwarding from the 340 access point on to the LAN (not familiar with 340 setup, but treating it like any other network device!) 4. Check gateway address for subnet etc. etc. If your using this in a production environment, then may I suggest you have a read of the following article: http://www.networkmagazine.com/article/NMG20011203S0008 Let's us all know how you get on... SB :) At 14:45 01/02/2002 -0500, george gittins wrote: I have a aironet 340 access point which can obtain an ip address from my dhcp. I installed the pcmcia lan wireless card on my laptop and i can surf the net find.However i cant ping anything neither can i acess my routers , .i cant even ping my ip addresss, is something that im missing here? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34328t=34110 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE R/S Lab differences [7:34308]
I am sure there are some differences. According to Cisco there are not. If there are it probably is on the order of T-1 vs. E-1. ISDN S/T interface vs. U interface. My $0.02 worth -- Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI, did anyone know if there are differences between the CCIE labs worldwide ? Mit freundlichen Gr|_en Udo Konstantin / koud , GS KA NEEF LAPPCOM GmbH Systemhaus f|r IT-Lvsungen Windeckstrasse 8 76135 Karlsruhe Tel: +49 721/8606-215 Mobil: +49 172/7271578 *215 Fax: +49 721/8606-264 E-Mail/Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes: Udo Konstantin/Infra CS @SULZERINFRA Website: http://www.neef.de/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34332t=34308 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VIP2 Issue [7:34330]
Here is the deal, I have a cat5000 with a sup III an RSM (ws-x5302) and a VIP2 with an ATM OC3 module installed (PA-A3-OC3SMI). I cannot see the ATM OC3 from the RSM. From the sup III I see the expansion module but after I session into the RSM nothing on a show run or a show int. This happened after a software upgrade on both the sup III and the RSM. The sup III was 3.2(8) and now it is 6.3(2), as for the RSM it was 12.0 but now the boot and the running IOS is 12.1(10). Can anyone help me??? Joe Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34330t=34330 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLan Switching [7:34298]
Steve, I am not sure how much you know about VLAN configuration and inter-VLAN communication you know. In your case, you could create a management VLAN and a user VLAN and use the router for inter-VLAN routing. Maybe you can try this link: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_6_2/_config/vlans.htm#24171 It gives a detailed overview of the various commands involved in VLAN configuration. Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34331t=34298 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - CCIE LAB and NDA [7:34244]
We could debate the TR vs. Ethernet thing 'till the cows come home Are there any new Token-Ring networks being deployed? Probably not. Unfortunately, there are still a TON of Token-Ring networks in use. Lately, I've seen these in financial settings mostly. I know of one brokerage company (who shall remain anonymous) that recently moved some legacy AS/400's from one location to another and had to update a bunch of DLSw peering statements (~200) so a customer contact database application still worked. The Financial industry (banks, brokerages, etc.) is notorious for using really old technology. Anyone ever see how ATM (Automatic Teller Machine) networks are built? There are a lot of them still running on analog multi-drop 4.8K lines. Some of the on-line brokerages send their orders via old bi-synch or x.25 technology rather than the various IP-based methods available (don't believe all the commercials you see to the contrary). What are the chances that a CCIE candidate will see Token-Ring in a production network? I guess it depends on the industry they work in. Up until a year ago CCIE candidates needed to know AppleTalk for the lab; I would bet that the percentage of engineers who have to support TR/DLSw/Bridging in their regular jobs is quite a bit higher than those who support AppleTalk networks. (sorry Priscilla :) Cisco may remove TR at some point just as they did with AT and DECNet, etc. but for now it's on the test so buck-up and learn it :) My $0.02 Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off Topic - CCIE LAB and NDA [7:34244] Token Ring is still on the written because Cisco doesn't seem to have the resources to update the test?? Is it still on the lab? (Or can't you tell me because of NDA?) ;-) I haven't run into a Token Ring shop that wasn't planning to update to Ethernet in a long time. But that planning to update can take years.. Priscilla At 12:32 AM 2/3/02, Chuck Larrieu wrote: before I shut down for the evening, a few random thoughts on the CCIE Lab and NDA. Inspired by several posts here of late from persons asking about topology, IOS versions, or speaking of rumors about equipment changes. 1) It is unclear what really constitutes NDA. Caslow? The ECP1 class? NLI's practice labs? Caslow's new prep class? Cisco's own ASET lab? All of these could be considered violations of NDA in many ways, from topic content to lab topology. Cisco's own ASET program used real but retired CCIE labs. 2) what is it Cisco really considers CCIE level skill? In the past, things like DecNet, Apollo, and Vines were core topics. Cisco has recently dropped those, plus ATM LANE, presumably in response to market conditions. Which leads one to ask - why token ring? The only real world token ring project I have been involved with the past couple of years is ripping them out and replacing them with ethernet. The apologia that there are still some major token ring networks around is a bit lame. There are still some major DecNet networks around, I'm sure. Until very recently ( and maybe they still are ), a major utility company out this way was still running Vines. As was the U.S Navy. 3) Is the CCIE a forward looking certification or not? Based on what I am seeing in the marketplace, the advanced skill levels that one needs to meet demand center around VPN, VoIP, wireless, security, and the underlying infrastructure required to support these technologies. that means lots of QoS, switching, L2-L3 interaction, ATM, giga-whatever, etc. I would purely love to see discussed good focused discussion on core competencies, core issues. But there is that awful specter of NDA that hangs over all of our heads. In a very strange way, NDA is kinda like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. We all know what's in the Lab. We all know what study materials are designed to model the Lab. But we don't dare speak the truth in front of the children ( those who haven't been yet ) for fear that some higher authority will trou nce on us if we do. I'm not sure if there is a real point to this message. Maybe what I want to say to all of those who keep asking about Lab equipment, Lab topology, Lab IOS versions, and the like, is that understanding of the core topics is the most important thing. If you have them down cold, the equipment and the topology will not matter. I'd like to comment on the rumor about changes in the equipment, but that damn NDA. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34333t=34244 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to begin? ( troubleshooting frame relay ) [7:34264]
This really sounds like a software problem. Is it possible to connect the 384k computer to the t1 lan segment and see if the problem persists? -Ejay -Original Message- From: beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where to begin? ( troubleshooting frame relay ) [7:34264] Hello All, I have a user with a full T1 frame relay circuit and a user with a 384k frac T1 circuit. The problem is the user with full T1 is trying to do a big SQL query that seems to time out after about 6 minutes of trying but the 384k can run the same query in about 3 minutes. The full T1 seems responsive and here is the sh int about 45 mins after router reboot. Any responses would be greatly appreciated. * * *** Serial0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 4/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) LMI enq sent 321, LMI stat recvd 321, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent 0, LMI upd sent 0 LMI DLCI 0 LMI type is ANSI Annex D frame relay DTE Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 105/0, interface broadcasts 50 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of show interface counters 00:53:44 Input queue: 1/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue :0/40 (size/max) 5 minute input rate 22000 bits/sec, 29 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 29000 bits/sec, 49 packets/sec 11131 packets input, 1847898 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 16526 packets output, 1309436 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 1 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up Serial0.1 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU Internet address is XXX.XX.XX.X/24 Backup interface BRI0, failure delay 0 sec, secondary disable delay 0 sec MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 4/255, rxload 3/255 Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY * *** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34334t=34264 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
If the router is not seeing interesting traffic within your idle period then it should drop the line. What is in your dialer-list to define what is interesting traffic? -Original Message- From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN problems... [7:34324] I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it for me... thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34335t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - tax deductions for studies [7:34270]
The best way to do that is to call youself a sole-proprietor of a business. Then you can also deduct travel costs, supplis, etc. This will also allow you to report any profits you may have made from independent consulting. If you are like me, you could have made several thousand dollars on consulting and still reported a loss. The rule is: If you do it only to save on taxes it's tax evasion. If you are trying to make money, It's tax planning! -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off Topic - tax deductions for studies [7:34270] As I gather together my 2001 tax year materials, I thought I'd just offer to the group that the cost of books, classes, home lab routers, etc. MAY be tax deductible. there are provisions in the tax code for deducting the cost of those training materials and classes which contribute to your ongoing ability to perform your job. As always, you should check with a qualified accountant to assure that you are eligible and in compliance with the zillions of tax laws out there. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34336t=34270 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NAT and dynamically attained ip [7:34213]
For NAT, I don't think so (at least not on 12.0). For PAT, Yes. In your nat statement, you use the interface instead of the ip. ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.1 80 interface dialer 0 80 -Original Message- From: Tim Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 1:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NAT and dynamically attained ip [7:34213] Is there any way to get NAT (not PAT) to use as an outside interface, an Async interface that has IP ADDRESS NEGOTIATE and PPP IPCP ACCEPT-ADDRESS on it, or is it only possible to have NAT use an outside interface with a static IP address? Thanks, Tim Booth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34337t=34213 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Thanks for you help Comrades - i was just being dense again Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34339t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WAN Switching [7:34035]
Paul, Sorry it took me so long to reply to this. Let me tell you about my experience with Stratacom. First of all I work at a large ISP where I am responsible for most of the network design. Three years ago our backbone was DS-3. We enthusiastically installed the BPX 8620. The future seemed bright for the BPX in the core of a network. I LOVE the BPX and IGX and MGX 8220 (as much as any person can really love an MGX that is) , I think they are great, stable, and well built boxes. We ran happily for two years and since then we've upgraded the backbone to OC-3 and now OC-12. We are now outgrowing the OC-12s. As you probably know, the BPX 8620 can only support OC-12, and even then it's port density isn't that great. So what's a cisco atm network to do? We're happy with the ATM, we own millions of dollars worth of it. It would suck to move from autoroute to pnni, but if we have to we will, so...simple, we try the MGX 8850. The 8850, in my opinion, is the biggest piece of crap cisco has ever made. I regret buying two of them. Whoever shipped these things to customers deserves a punch in the face for every unit they sold. Cisco has the resources to build a ATM switch based on IOS, or BPX SWSW, but instead they use the MGX operating system. Then they ship it to me like it can be put in production, but the software was so bad it should have had a alpha release label on it. It was rushed to market. It currently goes OC-48. When we bought it we had indications from the sales people that it would in just 3 months go faster. That project was cancelled. So here we are, stuck at OC-12 with the BPX. So what's our next move? Well we will probably end up running an optical network with a lambda of POS IP traffic and a lambda of OC-48 with a sonet mux muxing in 8620 oc-12s until we can migrate our atm services to MPLS IP. If there are less Stratacom jobs it's probably because there are lots of people in a similar situation to ours. I imagine most ISPs our size and bigger and making a migration to a DWDM/POS type of network for lots of reasons including the one I mentioned above. Is WAN switching dead? No way. MPLS is very similar to cell switching even in it's frame mode. Is ATM dead. Maybe. If your a CCNP Wan like me, I would say its time to start working on your CCIP MPLS and get to get involved in optical. Everything moves in cycles. Until the next cycle of frame/cell (lightwave) switched networking comes around I would say to concentrate on other areas. I feel your pain, I have a lot of time invested in ATM, but technology changes, an engineer has to change with it. Mike -Original Message- From: Paul Jin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: WAN Switching [7:34035] Hey Mike, What do you think about the future of the stratacoms? My friends and I have been discussing it back and forth. Is the demand going to be there for this product in the future or what? Even on the new C/S CCIE track, you only get the written portion as an option for WAN stuff but in the lab, no stratacoms either. What do you guys use the Stratacoms for at work? Especially if you guys are running this product as a normal consumer/business and not as a telco. thanks, Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34338t=34035 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
The dialer list command seems to be gone...I am going to add dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit This should work(at least to let everything threw). Or is there another way to do this which is more secure? I am also trying the debug command--they will not help this problem but have shown me another problem with the serial interfaces so thanks for that suggestion. Actually any suggestion on dialer-lists would alsom be welcome--ie what would it be a good idea and what kind of timeout is normal--I am using 50 seconds right now. stu -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:53 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: ISDN problems... [7:34324] If the router is not seeing interesting traffic within your idle period then it should drop the line. What is in your dialer-list to define what is interesting traffic? -Original Message- From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN problems... [7:34324] I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it for me... thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34341t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Actually, this is not correct. The first prefix list below would filter any prefix whose first three octets are 201.1.5 and has a mask greater than or equal to 29. It would *not* filter 201.1.5.0/24 because the mask is too short. To do what is suggested, it would have to be this: ip prefix-list greater seq 5 deny 201.1.5.0/24 le 29 Maybe I'm being to nitpicky this morning. I need some more coffee! John Georg Pauwen 2/4/02 6:45:24 AM Hi David, here is an example of the le and ge in prefix lists: ip prefix-list greater seq 5 deny 201.1.5.0/24 ge 29 This will deny anything from 201.1.5.0/24 thru 201.1.5.0/29 The advantage of the ge command is that now you need only one entry to allow or deny the entire range. ip prefix-list less seq 10 permit 192.168.5.0/0 le 26 This will allow anything from 192.168.5.0/24 thru 192.168.5.0/26; again, it saves a lot of entries. Hope this helps. Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34340t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - tax deductions for studies [7:34270]
I'm cheating to try to make money so, does that mean I'm not cheating? Seriously, I've done the sole-proprietor thing for a few years now. And if you do consulting work on the side there are a ton of things you can write off and it's perfectly legal and ethical. You would be surprised once you start writing stuff off how hard it is to turn a profit when filing your taxes. BTW.. I'm not a accountant nor do I play one on television. KLT Routers are what tiggers do best you know! Hire, Ejay wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The best way to do that is to call youself a sole-proprietor of a business. Then you can also deduct travel costs, supplis, etc. This will also allow you to report any profits you may have made from independent consulting. If you are like me, you could have made several thousand dollars on consulting and still reported a loss. The rule is: If you do it only to save on taxes it's tax evasion. If you are trying to make money, It's tax planning! -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off Topic - tax deductions for studies [7:34270] As I gather together my 2001 tax year materials, I thought I'd just offer to the group that the cost of books, classes, home lab routers, etc. MAY be tax deductible. there are provisions in the tax code for deducting the cost of those training materials and classes which contribute to your ongoing ability to perform your job. As always, you should check with a qualified accountant to assure that you are eligible and in compliance with the zillions of tax laws out there. Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34343t=34270 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Your Password at GroupStudy! [7:34303]
Send me your online banking details and I'll answer anything :-) Do a search on Cisco. Its all there in the certification section. Gaz Indra Moodley wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Any info on the CCIP Cetification Regards, Indra Moodley DNS Administrator Satellite Data Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Your Password at GroupStudy! Welcome to GroupStudy.com. Your username and password are as follows: Your Username: Lamagra Your Password: rkwfcnezvp You may login and change your password as desired. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34342t=34303 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VIP2 Issue [7:34330]
Hello Joe, Any system that has a VIP installed must have a v image (currently av or jv). For example: rsp-ajv-mz.111-472* rsp-jv-mz.111-472* Can you check what your IOS version is exactly ? Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34345t=34330 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLan Switching [7:34298]
I have a page with 3 VLAN links from Cisco already listed. http://www.packetattack.com/cisco_documents.html The links are at the bottom on the left side. This should give you a good start. I also have a tutorial but it's for the 2900 series but it might be worth your while to bookmark it. MikeS -- Find me at www-dot-packetattack-dot-com Nisus wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello All, This is my first post, I hope someone is able to help me out. I am currently in the Cisco CCNA path at my local school, ( Much fun ). However I have a client who needs a VLan set up in a commercial park. The switch in question is a Cisco 4000 series. I need to separate one port (for security, or so they say) away from the rest of the ports. The switch is connected to a Cisco 2610 that feeds into a T-1. I need to maintain a connection to the T-1 line for internet connectivity. Any one know how, or does any one know a good web site or book where I can teach my self? Thank you in advance for all your assistance, Steve Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34344t=34298 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
He should be getting ready for retirement so that the youngs ones should take over. - Original Message - From: Jeff Buehler To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Change the original posters question to include: How about a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE with 16 years of Telecom experience. (DS0,DS1, DS3, OC-3 to OC-192, DWDM) Telco switch etc. (test, turn-up, trouble-shooting)and only physical experience with IT? Guy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, more power to you!!! As far as what you should expect An entry level NOC position If you go in with the attitude that you should be at a Senior Level because of the IE, then you will be one of the ones crying about how theres no jobs available... Which ever way you go, I doubt your CCIE will have any more leverage than your CCNP will... Something that might be a good move for you is a latteral move within your ISP. in the AS support or something But it sounds like you are the person the average user calls when they cant get the little E thing on their desktop to do anything If thats your position, get out and move... If you support the companies about their T1, then your in a good starting place... Best of luck, everyone has to start, but Im afraid the CCIE at this stage may hurt you... Heres what I mean You are qualified for entry level... Your Certifications say you are over qualified Your work experience says your under qualified for your certs... What does an employer do? If they have delt with a CCIE before, they probobly wont consider you because they dont have the confidence in you to control their multi million dollar network On the otherside... Your certifications would get you overlooked for the positions you would excel at quickly and allow you to get the experience, because they dont think you would accept any offer for a lower position... So your resume gets dumped Some important things to consider. I would not consider your resume if it had all of that, and all within one year... My first instinct would be BRAIN DUMPS... CHEET SHEETS TRANSCENDERS, and I would throw your resume away Now someone with CCNA, maybe CCNP, but not too much, would get my attention for a good paying entry to mid level position CCIE is upper level position Cant put you in charge of my team of engineers with experience levels ranging from 2-10 years when you have 0-1 No one would folllow you. It would not be a good team anymore These are things beyond the technical aspect that management must face. Just think about it.. Im not trying to keep you from succeding, just trying to keep you from hurting yourself... Its like the small company that saves up their money for a Super Bowl Ad... They get 3 million responses and their 2 man company cant handle it WHat happens to them? They run themselves out of business... too much too fast... - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] To go through those certs that quickly is very impressive! If you pass the lab, I still think you will get a lot of funny looks when you say you have no work experience, yet you are a CCIE. As long as you're prepared for that, it's up to you to sell yourself. It will be tough but I think if you can show that you really know your stuff, you should be able to find a pretty good job. However, I wouldn't count on a huge salary right at the begging simply because of the certifications. Good luck! John Joe Carr 1/31/02 12:33:02 PM I'm going for my CCIE now and I have completed the CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCIE written all within the last five months. I currently work for an ISP in tech support (help desk) and I do not not have NOC experience. I have a very impressive lab and plan to boe done with the CCIE lab in about four months. am just wondering what I should expect out there, I just turrend 21 so I still pritty young yet but I have gotten all of these certs plus an MCDBA and A+ in less then a year. Joe Carr A+, MCDBA, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: ; Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] I'd be surprised if you could find a CCIE with no work experience. Even if you could, they wouldn't be worth that much, IMHO. Assuming I pass in April, I'll have just over three years experience and a CCIE certification. What does that mean? Well, it means that if I leave my current job to look for work elsewhere, I'll be going up against CCIEs with 5-7+ years experience plus degrees. Someone with only
logging the access on a router [7:34346]
Hello I'm trying to log access on a router (who and when) with a simple configuration ( without tacacs+ or radius) how i can do this ? Kind Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34346t=34346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multicast over Frame relay [7:34098]
I was searching on Cisco Web site extensively for reference to wheather we can do multicast if source is on one spoke and reciever on other. But could npt find any document. I could however find a document describing a situation in which source is on Hub and receivers on spokes, using ip pim nbma-mode. Has any one successfully completed a ping from a spoke router to a receiver on the other spoke of frame. I have tried every possible way by moving RP on to various points but could not do it !!! Veerender From: McCallum, Robert Reply-To: McCallum, Robert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Multicast over Frame relay [7:34098] Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:21:03 -0500 John, I actually tried the manual RP on R5 and couldn't get it to work so went with the R5 being the AUTo-rp and R5 being the mapping agent-still didn;t work. So I then went and moved the mapping agent to R6 still didn't work. SO, I then removed and went back to the manual RP this time however I put a multicast join statement on R3. For those of you who don;t have the lab it goes like this (IP addresses are different) 224.1.1.1 E0-R13-E1-E0-R6-s0/0(frame)-s0/0(frame)R5-s0/0.1(frame p-p)-s0/0.1(r3)-E0 (my multicast group.ie 224.3.3.3) R5 was configured as the manual RP so everyone knew how to get to the RP address. Now R3 ping 224.1.1.1 NOT A CHANCE R5 ping 224.1.1.1 NOT A CHANCE R6 ping 224.1.1.1 NAE problems Now for the really odd part R13 ping 224.3.3.3 NAE problems R6 ping 224.3.3.3 NAE problems R5 ping 224.3.3.3 NAE probelms Conclusion : I hate multicasting How can it possibly work one way but not the other?? -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2002 23:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Multicast over Frame relay [7:34098] It's funny, I had the *exact* problem with bootcamp lab 20. I eventually got it to work but I had all sorts of problems. I wasn't able to get Auto-RP to work at all, for some reason, so I had to manually define it. Still, I really had some issues that irritated me but they were so intermittent I wasn't able to nail them down. For instance, toward the beginning of my configurations I was able to ping the multicast address from R5. I thought that was pretty cool so I moved on to--IIRC--R1 and R3. I couldn't get them to work so I went back to R5 and discovered it could no longer ping the multicast address. One thing I kinda remember--someone please correct me if I'm wrong--is that you need to have a single RP for the multicast group. When I first started the configuration, each subnet had an RP and that didn't seem to work. Specifically, on the R6--R13 subnet I didn't assign an RP at all, which caused a problem. Then I made R13 the RP and it still didn't work. Then I made R5 the RP for everyone and that seemed to resolve my issue. I really need to get cracking on this multicast stuff, though. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface. John McCallum, Robert 2/1/02 2:08:10 PM I ran into the exact sma problem whilst doing bootcamp lab 20. I ended up abandoning it but I will go back to it before next Friday (my date with destiny). What I should ask you to check is do a ping 224.x.x.x or whatever the group was, then go to the router which has the igmp join group command on it and do a show ip mroute. Check to see where the router see the RPF for the outgoing interface of the router you are trying to ping from. My fuess is that it will be out of the wrong interface or something like that. Also please ensure that you have the broadcast keyword after any frame maps you have in the process. Cheers -Original Message- From: Mahesh Manjanatha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 February 2002 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Multicast over Frame relay [7:34098] I am sorry to post same question second time over here. I didnt get any response to my earlier posting. I am trying to do multicast over frame relay in Hub and Spoke topology. I am using IP PIM SPARSE mode with IP PIM NBMA MODE. I have Hub as as RP. I have made one of the spoke, member of a IGMP group. I am trying to PING that group address from other spoke, but I am not getting any response. I am able to ping that group from Hub router. Is there any thing else I need to configure to make it work ? Thanks Veerender Attri Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34285t=34098 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Additions to CCIE Ramp;amp;S lab [7:34136]
Aw come on, Brad. It's not a singular switch exam. What about the Token-ring switch? You know that Cisco added that thing to inject more realism into the lab. More seriously, I don't think you really need to have bigger, badder boxes. Just more of them. Honestly, there are a limited number of things you can do with 6 routers and 2-3 switches. Heck, it's been a very long time since I've worked on a production network that had that few boxes. Granted, those boxes on the exam are very 'busy'. But still, if you could get a network of, say, 20-25 boxes going, the exam would be a lot more realistic. Probably wouldn't cost you as much as a single 6500 IDS blade either. Brad Ellis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I really dont think Cisco is going to add another switch to each rack. I was under the impression they were trying to keep costs down for the CCIE lab exam, not increase costs substantially. Maybe Im way off base here, can anyone (or any proctor) that reads this let me know if I'm off base. I personally think it would be GREAT to have another switch or two in the lab. After all, it is a ROUTING and SWITCHING certification, not a Routing and Switch (singular) certification. :) Throw a couple of 12000's in there, add an IDS blade to the 6500, throw in a bunch of layer 3 stuff with the 6500 and that would make for an interesting lab, wouldnt it? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Scott H. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have heard rumors of this, but no confirmation. I have a week to go and sure would like to know if this is something I need to worry about. Tauseef Nagi wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cisco's europe office in Brussels, Begium. Tauseef Scott H. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... source? Tauseef Nagi wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, Latest information coming out of Cisco regarding CCIE RS lab is that Cisco will be adding more (complex) switching material to the lab scenarios. This will include two switches with routing engines, trunking between switches, pvlans, multicasting on switches, etc. These new scenarios will began to appear in April of this year at the earliest(if not already being tested) and formalized by July of this year. Can anyone confirm this? Tauseef Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34282t=34136 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAN Switching [7:34035]
Actually I believe that WAN-switching is a tremendously useful skill, because it is difficult to commoditize the way that, say, IOS has been commoditized. A full discussion of this can rapidly degenerate into a bunch of economics supply and demand curves, but basically it's very difficult for some novice to really learn WAN-switching. There's a large barrier to entry. Anybody can just pick up a couple of routers off Ebay on the cheap, learn IOS, and then compete for a basic Cisco networking job. Try doing that with a couple of WAN-switches - it's basically a no-go. This serves as pretty good job security for the guys who know WAN-switching, as they don't have to put up with relentless commoditization of skills that the IOS guys do. On the other hand, if you want to learn Wan-switching, then why Stratacom? It is almost certainly better to learn, say, Lucent/Cascade or Nortel Wan-switching - something that has a higher shelf life. Anybody who's followed Stratacom should have noted that Cisco's support of the platform was lukewarm at best, and should therefore have seen the handwriting on the wall. While some of you might object to the above paragraph with a financial argument by pointing out the strong balance sheet of Cisco vs. the horrific ones of Lucent and Nortel, I believe that argument is neither here nor there. Sure, Cisco is doing well financially. But not Cisco Stratacom, which I'm sure is a drag on their bottom line. Conversely, while Lucent and Nortel are doing badly financially, their Wan-switching divisions are doing well (in fact, I believe Wan-switches are one of the few divisions that still generate decent profit). Lucent and Nortel therefore have had a much greater incentive to develop and promote their Wan-switches than Cisco has for Stratacom. Paul Jin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, I think the earlier the stratacom experts agree, the better it is for them. That is why my friends are all studying something else. Sure, when the economy clears up, there might be some jobs doing wan switching but it looks like most telcos over planned for both equipment and staff. So there will be enough stratacom jobs for a while but probably only for the people that are keeping their positions. -paul nrf wrote: Exactly. You pretty much hit it right on the head - demand is so low that Cisco's decided that not only can it not support a CCIE program, it can't even support a CCNA program anymore. I don't want to be unduly harsh, as I believe all technologies ultimately have their proper place. But let's face it. The Stratacom acquisition basically sucked for Cisco. Sorry to put it so bluntly, as I know there are some Stratacom experts out there who will object, but you know in your hearts that it's true. Cisco hasn't put major development muscle into the Stratacom line ever since the last major hardware refresh, the MGX8850, which came out more than 2.5 years ago. Rumor has it that Cisco would really like to sell Stratacom off, the problem of course being finding a buyer. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34316t=34035 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
Marshal, I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago. The program DID start as a way to test for hands-on experience, but the program has gone a different direction in the past couple years. There's such a wide/diverse and focused consulting/implementation field, I think it would be extremely difficult to focus on testing hands-on. There would have to be 30+ different CCIE specialization programs (with a much larger variety of hardware/software differences used for each specialization as well). It would be an administrative nightmare for Cisco to administer such a program. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Marshal Schoener wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I disagree. There is not a Cisco test, nor any technical test for that matter that a person can't pass with a whole lot of studying and some lab time. Yes the CCIE lab is extremely difficult. But to say it's impossible to pass without 'real world' experience is just wrong. Regards, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Is there such D CCIE with no experience I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole point of a CCIE Lab is to prove the experience you have gained in the field and how you go about building and troubleshooting a network. Friends of mine that are good engineers with extensive experience failed the exam first time. The amount of time you get in the lab exam gives you no time to refer back to the documentation cd or to even think to hard!, you have to know exactly what to do and how to do it and you have to do as fast as you possibly can. Anyone that has attempted the lab knows how draining it is both physically and especially mentally. It is not easy! For those of us attempting the lab and for those that have already achieved there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good troubleshooting base. Good Luck -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back to building race cars. -Original Message- From: Joe Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34325t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAN Switching [7:34035]
Well, I subscribe to the theory that companies are much more accountable for their own performance within a market than they are for market-wide trends. Cerent and Ciena are therefore much less serious errors than Stratacom. What I mean by that is Cerent and Ciena (especially Cerent) were especially well-executed, albeit very expensive, strategies in that Cisco did successfully leverage their vaunted sales and marketing force to push those products. Cerent gear is a leading, if not the leading metro ADM solution in the world, and Ciena is perhaps the strongest pure-play optical vendor of all. It's just that the entire optical market has collapsed. In retrospect, it seems obvious that the optical market would collapse based on capacity utilization trends, so you could argue that Cisco should have predicted this and not gotten in, or at least have not paid so much to get in. But I don't think you can hold Cisco totally responsible. They did what they intended to do in that they finally got themselves a credible optical story. It's just that the whole optical market went in the toilet. Compare that to Stratacom, where Cisco achieved basically none of the goals it set out to do. I believe Stratacom has lost share every year since '98 or so. The TGX platform was cancelled more than 2.5 years ago, with nothing on the horizon to replace it, and the MGX 8850 is clearly no match for the latest stuff from the competition. The acquisition was poorly planned and poorly executed. From what I can tell, Cisco garnered basically none of the advantages it thought it would get from the acquisition. This is why Stratacom was such a poor move. Sure, not as bad as, say, Monterey (if they weren't going to use the ONS15900, why buy it?). But still pretty bad. Chuck Larrieu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... might one presume that the Cerent acquisition and the Ciena partnership/investment were considered the future directions in this area? Talk about buy high sell low. Chuck nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Exactly. You pretty much hit it right on the head - demand is so low that Cisco's decided that not only can it not support a CCIE program, it can't even support a CCNA program anymore. I don't want to be unduly harsh, as I believe all technologies ultimately have their proper place. But let's face it. The Stratacom acquisition basically sucked for Cisco. Sorry to put it so bluntly, as I know there are some Stratacom experts out there who will object, but you know in your hearts that it's true. Cisco hasn't put major development muscle into the Stratacom line ever since the last major hardware refresh, the MGX8850, which came out more than 2.5 years ago. Rumor has it that Cisco would really like to sell Stratacom off, the problem of course being finding a buyer. Paul Jin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Also, the big question is, who is going to keep buying stratacom switches in the future? If Cisco thought that the demand for this product was huge, I do not think they would have cancelled the program. I have heard some reasons why the CCIE track was cancelled was due to the fact that even people working on the switches could not gain access to the equipment, just for the lab purpose. But why cancel the NP/NA track. Probably, people that needed these boxes already have it. They already either have more than they need for future expansion or since big chunk of the customers were telcos, they are in bad financial shape or going out of business. Lucky for me, I only got the the CCNA-Wan part before they cancelled the program. I have other buddies that actually work on our backbone and they went through to NP. And then it was cancelled. Now they are all studying routers. - Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34319t=34035 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Limit Internet BW [7:34201]
access-list 1 permit ip.of.sit.e1 (these are the sites you are rate-limiting.) access-list 1 permit ip.of.sit.e2 (these are the sites you are rate-limiting.) interface serial x/x (the interface closest to the site you want to rate limit) rate-limit input access-group 1 XXX YYY ZZZ conform-action transmit exceed-action drop rate-limit output access-group 1 XXX YYY ZZZ conform-action transmit exceed-action drop XXX - Normal speed in bps (multpiples of 8) YYY - Normal Burst speed. (supposedly the minimum is XXX/2000, but I can't test it right now.) ZZZ - Max Burst speed. For more info, see this link on Cisco. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos _r/qrfcmd8.htm -Original Message- From: Fernando Shiran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Limit Internet BW [7:34201] Hello, I do have a requirment to limit Internet Bandwidth among few sites. I do have a T1 and want to allow site A to be access bandwidth not more than 256K while site B can access full bandwidth without restricting. I do have a Cisco 2620 as the Gatway router. All ideas greatly appreciated. Regards Shiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34329t=34201 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
Think Classless.. Erhan --- McCallum, Robert wrote: gt = greater than so gt /23 = subnets with a mask of above /23. lt = less than so lt /17 = subnets with a mask less than /17. so using prefix lists can you give me an answer which would do the following:- 1. Deny subnets of class B networks 2. Deny supernets of Class C networks 3. Deny networks starting 193.x.x.x 4. permit all else. For the 1st one ask yourself what makes a class B network a Class B network? From this you will find out what your /x prefix should be. Then what mask = subnets of a class B network gt or lt. and so on -Original Message- From: dk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: prefix lists .. [7:34312] Can anyone help me get a handle on the ge and le options on prefix lists? I find them totaly confusing. Thanks in advance for any advice offered David _ CCIE Security list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/security.html __ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34327t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCCNP - routing exam [7:34347]
I am going to take my routing exam in soon., if some one has good infortmation please provide me. thanks, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34347t=34347 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cat2924 sending out broadcast message [7:34024]
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
I'm impressed. Wouldn't it be cool if that skill
were required for CCIE?
I only wish !!! It would make my life a lot easier.
;-) It's certainly more useful than being able to
hand decode Token Ring
RIFs?
TRing RIF decodes are another of my pet hates. These
questions only prove 2 things in my opinion. You can
convert hex to binary and you have a memory !!!
Phil.
Priscilla
At 07:02 AM 2/1/02, Phil Barker wrote:
Version 4:
HLEN = 5: Normal IP Header (5 losts of 32 bits)
Service Type 0: Normal.
Total Length = 328 bytes. Thus data length = 308
bytes.
Identification = 51514. Flags Offset = 0.
TTL = 255.
Protocol 17: UDP.
Header checksum 0xf16a.
Source IP : 0.0.0.0
Dest IP : 255.255.255.255 b/cast
Src Port 68: bootp client
Dest Port 67: bootp server
Message Length = 308 (length - IP header)
No Checksum:
4500 0148 c93a ff11 f16a
0044 0043 0134 0101 0600
a3c6
0010 0b3c 3580
Bootp client to server.
Looks like because it has no source address
0.0.0.0,
it is trying to find it via a bootp server. I think
this operates like RARP except it is routable !!!
Not totally sure though.
Regards,
Phil.
--- Tay Chee Yong wrote: Hi
all,
Just like to enquire some issue regarding
Catalyst
2924
I have a pretty old Catalyst 2924 (C2900XL-H-M)
switch in my office running
IOS Version 11.2(8)SA3, however, it seems that
the
switch is constantly
sending out broadcast messages as captured by
tcpdump.
17:14:51.053952 0:10:b:3c:35:80 Broadcast ip
342:
0.0.0.0.bootpc
255.255.255.255.bootps: secs:41926 [|bootp]
4500 0148 c93a ff11 f16a
0044 0043 0134 0101 0600
a3c6
0010 0b3c 3580
I did not configure any IP address on Vlan 1 on
the
switch, but I did
segment the switch to contain 2 more vlans (Vlan
2,
3) However, I also have
some machines residing on Vlan 1.
However, the broadcast problem disappear after I
move out the vlan1
machines into another newly created Vlan (vlan
4),
after I had shutdown
Interface Vlan 1.
Can anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks.
Regards,
Cheeyong
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Named Method Lists aaa [7:34351]
Hello, I've a problem configuring Named method Lists for AAA Authorization. I've succesfully configured two Methods: RADIUS and TACACS. No problem with authentication and accounting, but if I input this command for authorization: aaa authorization network RAD group radius the sh running command outputs: aaa authorization network default group radius group radius (it is wrong, why??) IOS version is 12.1.6 (c5200-is-l.121-6.bin) AS5200 with 16MB RAM and 16MB Flash Same problem with a 2503 (IOS 12.1.6). Can someone tell me if the upgrade to IOS 12.1.9 can be a solution? Many thanks Luca Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34351t=34351 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: prefix lists .. [7:34312]
John, you are absolutely right, my own interpretation of my own example was wrong. I hope I could make the point that the ge and le refer to whatever is less, equal or greater than the number that is configured with it. By the way, coffee sounds good... Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34350t=34312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ip mroute-cache [7:34352]
i was wondering if someone can explain 'ip mroute-cache ' how does this differ from 'ip route-cache'? does the load balancing (per packet/per destination)stay the same with mroute-cache enabled? thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34352t=34352 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab. If he uses the lab and works through scenarios, isn't this what the rest of you are calling experience. He doesn't get paid to do it, but he probably would end up with more experience than some of the people that we all work with collecting a pay check. IMHO Dean Whitley p.s. Joe, from the sounds of your post and initiative to achieve all those certs, I think a company would be foolish to not hire someone like you. -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Marshal, I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago. The program DID start as a way to test for hands-on experience, but the program has gone a different direction in the past couple years. There's such a wide/diverse and focused consulting/implementation field, I think it would be extremely difficult to focus on testing hands-on. There would have to be 30+ different CCIE specialization programs (with a much larger variety of hardware/software differences used for each specialization as well). It would be an administrative nightmare for Cisco to administer such a program. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Marshal Schoener wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I disagree. There is not a Cisco test, nor any technical test for that matter that a person can't pass with a whole lot of studying and some lab time. Yes the CCIE lab is extremely difficult. But to say it's impossible to pass without 'real world' experience is just wrong. Regards, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Is there such D CCIE with no experience I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole point of a CCIE Lab is to prove the experience you have gained in the field and how you go about building and troubleshooting a network. Friends of mine that are good engineers with extensive experience failed the exam first time. The amount of time you get in the lab exam gives you no time to refer back to the documentation cd or to even think to hard!, you have to know exactly what to do and how to do it and you have to do as fast as you possibly can. Anyone that has attempted the lab knows how draining it is both physically and especially mentally. It is not easy! For those of us attempting the lab and for those that have already achieved there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good troubleshooting base. Good Luck -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back to building race cars. -Original Message- From: Joe Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34348t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: logging the access on a router [7:34346]
Hello, You can use access lists to log it. You can use either logging buffered (limited in number of entries) or use a dedicated log server. Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34353t=34346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ip mroute-cache [7:34352]
To configure IP multicast fast switching or multicast distributed switching (MDS), use the ip mroute-cache command in interface configuration mode. To disable either of these features, use the no form of this command. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34354t=34352 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
Lets do the math on this: A+ Cert= 2 tests MCDBA= 5 tests CCNA= 1 test CCDA= 1 test CCNP= 4 test CCIE Written= 1 test Total in LESS than a year= 13 tests! WOW! Yes that is impressive but I'm wondering how much can someone remember of each test if they have taken that many in such a short period of time? If it is possible, while being able to retain most of it, that is great! What saddens me most is that a lot of people in the industry do stuff or try to obtain certifications with the main goal of money. Most people I talk to say they are going into the field because they can make more money are want to obtain a cert for money. What happened to wanting to excel in your field because you like what you do or because you want to be the best you can be. Yes the field is saturated but only the people that have a love for what they do and want to excel for personal knowledge will rise to the top. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab. If he uses the lab and works through scenarios, isn't this what the rest of you are calling experience. He doesn't get paid to do it, but he probably would end up with more experience than some of the people that we all work with collecting a pay check. IMHO Dean Whitley p.s. Joe, from the sounds of your post and initiative to achieve all those certs, I think a company would be foolish to not hire someone like you. -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Marshal, I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago. The program DID start as a way to test for hands-on experience, but the program has gone a different direction in the past couple years. There's such a wide/diverse and focused consulting/implementation field, I think it would be extremely difficult to focus on testing hands-on. There would have to be 30+ different CCIE specialization programs (with a much larger variety of hardware/software differences used for each specialization as well). It would be an administrative nightmare for Cisco to administer such a program. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Marshal Schoener wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I disagree. There is not a Cisco test, nor any technical test for that matter that a person can't pass with a whole lot of studying and some lab time. Yes the CCIE lab is extremely difficult. But to say it's impossible to pass without 'real world' experience is just wrong. Regards, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Is there such D CCIE with no experience I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole point of a CCIE Lab is to prove the experience you have gained in the field and how you go about building and troubleshooting a network. Friends of mine that are good engineers with extensive experience failed the exam first time. The amount of time you get in the lab exam gives you no time to refer back to the documentation cd or to even think to hard!, you have to know exactly what to do and how to do it and you have to do as fast as you possibly can. Anyone that has attempted the lab knows how draining it is both physically and especially mentally. It is not easy! For those of us attempting the lab and for those that have already achieved there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good troubleshooting base. Good Luck -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back to building race cars. -Original Message- From: Joe Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34355t=33899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Long....RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
After receiving an email from Joe, I would agree that he sounds like a very intelligent person with tremendous initiative. I'd like to differentiate between lab experience and OTJ experience. Learning to configure OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP at home is one thing. Going to a customer site who has 200 nodes, half of which were acquired from another company and are running OSPF while half are running EIGRP and all areas need to be able to communicate with each other and also have multiple redundant and area-diverse connections to different internet providers using BGP...that is experience. :-) Then, after a decision has been made to use a single IGP, make a choice between EIGRP and OSPF, or even IS-IS. Justify your reasoning and then determine a migration plan that minimizes customer downtime and guarantees that all areas have internet access at all times even if their local provider goes down. Help the customer to coordinate with ARIN and service providers to get the necessary address space and an assigned autonomous system number. When a given area has multiple connections to the same ISP, attempt to influence routing in the ISP so that it takes the closest entrance into your network for that user. Attempt to influence routing within each ISP so that you increase the chances that optimal routing will occur. Make certain that you only advertise the necessary prefixes while filtering all others. Configure routing within each area to take the closet exit possible, within reason. Provision and order the necessary circuits after getting quotes from several providers. Make a determination when and if point to point links could/should be used and where frame relay or ATM would be most suitable. Make sure that you have plenty of room for growth and enough bandwidth to support video conferencing over IP for certain sections of this network. Determine which type of traffic shaping, queueing, and/or rate limiting might be necessary and where it would be most useful. Upgrade routers and switches as necessary, making sure that you won't run into processor limitations during high traffic loads and you have enough WIC and NM slots available to support the connections you require. Make sure you select an IOS that supports those modules and software features you'll needwhile minimizing the number of bugs that might affect you. Determine a backup plan for each area and include ISDN backup links, making sure the backup links can pass both IP, IPX, and some DLSw+ but do not pass streaming video and other non-essential traffic. Create a network infrastructure disaster recovery plan for each area and document your procedures. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, and *that's* what I mean by experience. Certainly, your experience doesn't need to be this comprehensive and detailed, I'm simply exaggerating to make a point. There is a *huge* difference between learning to configure this stuff at home and actually implementing it in the real world. Granted, this would be a huge task but it's one that a CCIE along with a group of engineers would be expected to be able to handle. A CCIE--even a highly intelligent and motivated one--with no experience would have difficulty with this. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/4/02 10:23:37 AM I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab. If he uses the lab and works through scenarios, isn't this what the rest of you are calling experience. He doesn't get paid to do it, but he probably would end up with more experience than some of the people that we all work with collecting a pay check. IMHO Dean Whitley p.s. Joe, from the sounds of your post and initiative to achieve all those certs, I think a company would be foolish to not hire someone like you. -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] Marshal, I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago. The program DID start as a way to test for hands-on experience, but the program has gone a different direction in the past couple years. There's such a wide/diverse and focused consulting/implementation field, I think it would be extremely difficult to focus on testing hands-on. There would have to be 30+ different CCIE specialization programs (with a much larger variety of hardware/software differences used for each specialization as well). It would be an administrative nightmare for Cisco to administer such a program. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html Marshal Schoener wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I disagree. There is not a
Re: OSPF across PIX [7:24608]
Pat, Getting a PIX to pass OSPF would require one of two methods: Routing or NAT. First, the PIX isn't a router, and if it were it still wouldn't work since OSPF LSAs are sent to the non-routable 224.0.0.5/6 addresses (as well as have a TTL of 1). NAT is not a viable alternative as NAT will not change the payload of OSPF packets, a requirement as networks would appear differently on one side than on the other. An alternative, although it probably introduces an unwanted security problem is to allow an IP-IP or GRE tunnel through the firewall. With OSPF packets encapsulated inside the tunnel NAT becomes a non-issue. Of course, if you implement this type of solution you could encrypt data sent through the tunnel which is better than nothing -- but I would not implement a solution like this for long-term use. - Tom In article , Patrick Ramsey wrote: First thought is that this will not work. imagine this and tell me what you think. In pix, your acl's are based on tcp/udp/icmp these all are protocols, like ospf is it's own protocol... since ospf (protocol 89) is separate, opening up a port dealing with tcp/udp/icmp would be completely useless. -Patrick pat 10/29/01 11:01PM Does anybody has any ideas on how to run OSPF across firewall. What ports to be open how to make router esablish nighbour relations across firewall. Any thought on this will be greatly appriciated. Thanks, patterson. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34357t=24608 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF across PIX [7:24608]
You 'could' pass a BGP session with a route-map to set next-hop correctly for both sides of the session. But you still have the issue of what routes you are advertising across any NAT. The challenge you have is extracting value from running some dynamic routing over a statically configured device(PIX). There are a few cases where it makes sense but not many. Darrell Tom Martin wrote: Pat, Getting a PIX to pass OSPF would require one of two methods: Routing or NAT. First, the PIX isn't a router, and if it were it still wouldn't work since OSPF LSAs are sent to the non-routable 224.0.0.5/6 addresses (as well as have a TTL of 1). NAT is not a viable alternative as NAT will not change the payload of OSPF packets, a requirement as networks would appear differently on one side than on the other. An alternative, although it probably introduces an unwanted security problem is to allow an IP-IP or GRE tunnel through the firewall. With OSPF packets encapsulated inside the tunnel NAT becomes a non-issue. Of course, if you implement this type of solution you could encrypt data sent through the tunnel which is better than nothing -- but I would not implement a solution like this for long-term use. - Tom In article , Patrick Ramsey wrote: First thought is that this will not work. imagine this and tell me what you think. In pix, your acl's are based on tcp/udp/icmp these all are protocols, like ospf is it's own protocol... since ospf (protocol 89) is separate, opening up a port dealing with tcp/udp/icmp would be completely useless. -Patrick pat 10/29/01 11:01PM Does anybody has any ideas on how to run OSPF across firewall. What ports to be open how to make router esablish nighbour relations across firewall. Any thought on this will be greatly appriciated. Thanks, patterson. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34358t=24608 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCCNP - routing exam [7:34347]
The Boson routing exam test # 3 The Cisco press CCNP routing study guide 640-503. Both can be of great help towards passing the routing exam. Good luck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34360t=34347 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is the passing score for the 640-504 exam [7:34226]
Thanks Jack. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34361t=34226 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: passing score for the CCNP switching exam? [7:34227]
Thanks DLB Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34362t=34227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAT'S RULE!!! (EOM)!!!!!! [7:34363]
Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34363t=34363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AW: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
Router(config)#access-list access-list-number [permit | deny] {protocol |
protocol-keyword}{source source-wildcard | any}{destination
destination-wildcard | any}[protocol-specific-options] [log]
The more complex form of the command references an access list, allowing
finer control of the definition of interesting traffic than the dialer-list
command
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Re: PIM Dense Mode or PIM Sparse Mode [7:34307]
At 04:59 AM 2/4/02, Eve Mitch wrote: Hi wondering what I should use in a envirionment where I have 2 core switches 6513 with sup2 and msfc2 and pfc2 modules onboard. have about 5 access switches 6513 with sup2 modules connected via trunks to the core. Lots of users on different VLANs behind different access switch will use the few multicast stream there are. how to decide which mode to use PIM DM or PIM SM. It sounds like dense mode would work for you. The main reason for not using dense mode doesn't apply in your case. Some people disapprove of dense mode because the multicast stream initially goes to all segments, until prune messages come back from PIM-enabled routers. In a network design where most segments (VLANs) should receive the multicast traffic anyway, this isn't an issue. Plus dense mode is somewhat easier to configure because it doesn't require a rendezvous point. From my Top-Down Network Design book: With dense mode, the first packet for a group is flooded to all interfaces. Once this has occurred, however, routers listen to prune messages to help them develop a map of the network that lets them send multicast packets only to those networks that should receive the packets. The prune messages also let routers avoid loops that would cause more than one router to send a multicast packet to a segment. Dense-mode PIM works best in environments with large multicast groups and a high likelihood that any given LAN has a group member, which limits need for routers to send prune messages. Because of the flooding of the first packet for a group, dense-mode does not make sense in environments where a few sparsely-located users wish to participate in a multicast application. In this case, sparse-mode PIM, which is described in the next section, is a better solution. Sparse-mode PIM is quite different than dense-mode PIM. Rather than allowing traffic to be sent everywhere and then pruned back where it is not needed, sparse-mode PIM defines a rendezvous point. The rendezvous point provides a registration service for a multicast group. Sparse-mode PIM relies on IGMP, which lets a host join a group by sending a membership-report message, and detach from a group by sending a leave message. A designated router for a network segment tracks membership-report and leave messages on its segment, and periodically sends join and prune PIM messages to the rendezvous point. The join and prune messages are processed by all the routers between the designated router and the rendezvous point. The result is a distribution tree that reaches all group members and is centered at the rendezvous point. Priscilla thanks in advance Eve Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34366t=34307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: logging the access on a router [7:34346]
Syslog doesn't do user information. You have two choices: Make an extended access list with the keyword log to log telnet packet access, OR configure aaa and log the debug aaa auth output Probably a little more than you had hoped for but should do the trick. Dion, Thierry wrote: Hello I'm trying to log access on a router (who and when) with a simple configuration ( without tacacs+ or radius) how i can do this ? Kind Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34365t=34346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF and DDR w/area authentication [7:33884]
I'm not discounting a bug. I have submitted a question to the open forum on cco, no responses yet. I know that my config is correct as the ospf neighbors form soon after the isdn link is activated (ie. the keys do match on both sides). The neighbors will stay up, however, the isdn link also stays up. If I filter out 224.0.0.5 from being interesting, something I assumed was done when you code ip ospf demand-circuit, once the isdn link is down, ospf is still sending hello packets, at the dead-interval the neighbors die due to the dead-interval being hit. This is shown in debugs/logs adj-change neighbor down dead interval hit. My understanding of demand-circuit is that there is no dead interval. The hellos should be suppressed. If you issue a show ip ospf interface dialer0, it shows that the hellos are suppressed for 1 neighbor(s). However, if I simply use the dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit the isdn link is brought up by the 224.0.0.5 and stays up. Very strange. I do not have access to an ISDN simuator at my office lab. Hopefully I'll get more time at our local Cisco office. For those with an ISDN simulator see if you can keep you link quiet yet keep your ospf neighbors active over the circuit with area md5 auth. turned on. Richard Are you using the simple password authentication or the MD5 authentication? I realized that I assumed MD5 in my previous answer. At 02:20 PM 2/1/02, Richard Newman wrote: Thanks for all the replies. No clear answer yet. I do know for a fact due to debugs that there is a periodic key exchange sequence. The debug would show as OSPF: Send with youngest Key 1. The traffic would come across as 224.0.0.5. That's just a hello. With MD5, the key is used to create the message digest added to the hello. I agree with Peter that it might be a bug (if you're using MD5). If you're not using MD5, this may be normal behavior? But you should use MD5. The other method sends the password as clear text. It's useless as far as security is concerned. Priscilla The only difference between the demand-circuit peers staying up or being terminated is no authentication versus authentication. And actually the area number doesn't matter. Also be aware, I found this out the hard way, that you can actually have blank spaces after your key value which will not be visible. This cost me hours of trouble shooting until I deleted and readded my key statements. Ooops. Richard Richard Newman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all. I was working on a lab with an ISDN link between two of my OSPF routers. The link would come up if the Frame cloud went away. Normal stuff link would be initiated as usual. However, since area 0 had authentication turned on broadcasts from 224.0.0.5 kept the isdn link up all the time. If I filtered out the 224.0.0.5 from being interesting the ospf neighbors would get terminated at the dead interval. When I turn off authen. from area 0 all worked as normal. Is this a normal occurrance? When area authentication is turned on do the key exchanges still happen even over a demand-circuit? Thanks... Richard Newman Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34367t=33884 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: logging the access on a router [7:34346]
Is this what you had in mind ? ! Last configuration change at 00:05:35 ECT Wed Nov 22 2000 ! NVRAM config last updated at 00:05:38 ECT Wed Nov 22 2000 ! version 12.0 service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec service password-encryption ! hostname xx ! logging buffered 4096 debugging the service timestamps will do the trick. you can create a local database of userids/passwords that can make changes, the userid will be included in the two lines at the top Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34370t=34346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multicast / CGMP towards the multicast server [7:33964]
Michael, CGMP does not have a concept of the multicast source (unlike the multicast routing protocol) and therefore the fact that the source is on the same link as the router should not change standard CGMP operation -- associating the CAM table with the various multicast groups. - Tom In article , Fears Michael S SSgt 50 CS/SCBBN wrote: If a multicast server is connected to a Cisco Switch running CGMP, and several hosts are connected to the same switch, will a router turn off the switch ports for the users that are not requesting the multicast? So, will CGMP work back towards the multicast server? Fears misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34371t=33964 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAT'S RULE!!! (EOM)!!!!!! [7:34363]
The Raider's weren't robbed...they lost because they're evil!! ;-) Regards, John from Bronco Country (where the Broncos lost because they sucked and I'm not afraid to admit it ) Okay, back to something more on-topic, like my need for more coffee! Patricia Leeb-Hart 2/4/02 12:51:10 PM Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34372t=34363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34373t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAT'S RULE!!! (EOM)!!!!!! [7:34363]
Another person from CA, eh? The call was by the rule book, even if the rule may have been unfair as some people have claimed. We had that exect call go against us in week 2 of a Jets game and we never cried. We even lost that game. It's a legitimate rule. AND, the Raiders still could have stopped us before getting to kick the FG that put it into overtime. Then in overtime, the Raiders still didn't stop us. So it wasn't like the refs just handed us the game. There still were some major playing and feats that we had to make to get us to where we got in that game. Steve Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34374t=34363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF Stud areas [7:34375]
Greetings, I have the following scenario: area 0 (backbone) | | | area 20 (stub network) (these are RiverStone MLSs) | | uBR routers (static routing) I would like to set up OSPF between the Riverstones and the Cisco uBRs. We thought to set up the uBRs as stub networks also, but we are seeing the full OSPF routing table on the uBRs (which are already running high utilization). We would only like to see the default route on the uBRs. So would we need to set these up as NSSA or Totally stubby? Or should we create a new area and make that a stub of the existing area 20? We have experimented with filtering and we are able to filter out everything but the default, but I don't think we should have to do that either. Right now our lab equipment is in the process of being moved to our new building so I can't program this up right now to test. Thanks for the assist!!! Debbie Westall Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34375t=34375 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPX Routing problem [7:34376]
This should be a good one. I switched out an old IBM 6611 for a Cisco 7204 this weekend. There is a point to point T-1 from COUR002 to COUR001. Encapsulation is still PPP (didn't want to change too much. IBM requires PPP encapsulation). People from the COUR002 router are not able to access a particular server hanging off a Token Ring port at COUR001. I do a show ipx servers on the COUR002 router and I see that the router is gettng the SAP advertisement from the server hanging off the other end of the link(as long as they are not left over from before this weekend). But my user on the COUR002 cannot get connected to the server like they were as of last Friday. Here are the configs for the involved ports: COUR001 interface TokenRing2/0 description 2nd floor ip address 172.25.30.200 255.255.255.0 ip directed-broadcast ipx encapsulation SNAP ipx network A00B ring-speed 16 interface Serial3/3 description Connection to Marina mac-address 0200.1099.4182 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.249 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 nrzi-encoding COUR002: interface Serial0/0 mac-address 0200.1099.41c2 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.250 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ip ospf retransmit-interval 10 no ip mroute-cache no keepalive ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 no fair-queue nrzi-encoding We are using OSPF for routing and that seems to be fine. My thinking is that for some reason IPX is fouled up. I just cant figure out where or why. Any help would be appreciated. James Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34376t=34376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clarification and contrast (was Re: PAT'S RULE!!! ) [7:34377]
Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Would you prefer we deal with memory faults, specifically in RAM? Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34377t=34377 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
Good idea to stick with the most recent Cisco Press books. Maybe other people can say the same thing. I have studied with both Sybex and Cisco Press books and can say that with Sybex I felt like there were some surprises once I reached the test. With Cisco Press I don't think any topic on the test was left out. I swear I don't work for Cisco! I just like their books! slam Rafay wrote: Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34378t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34379t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
Thanks james, I really appreciate you advice, I currently have BSCN book from Cisco Press, I will to buy or download the rest of Cisco books. Fraasch James wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Good idea to stick with the most recent Cisco Press books. Maybe other people can say the same thing. I have studied with both Sybex and Cisco Press books and can say that with Sybex I felt like there were some surprises once I reached the test. With Cisco Press I don't think any topic on the test was left out. I swear I don't work for Cisco! I just like their books! slam Rafay wrote: Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34380t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
To pass (e)xmas, you must stand on the right side of Bering Street on December 24, and the second midnight strikes, you must jump over to the left side of Bering Street where it is now the 26. (sorry couldn't help it) Anyway, to give you a description of what I used and my recommedations, please follow my RouterChief link below. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Aslam Rafay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNP EXAM [7:34373] Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34381t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: logging the access on a router [7:34346]
set debug for aaa and configure to log to syslog. It is not easy to parse that log though, but can be done. -Keyur Shah- CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching) css1,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,cni,mcne Hello Computers Say Hello to Your Future! http://www.hellocomputers.com Toll-Free: 1.877.794.3556 Now offering CCIE Security Lab Workbook and remote bootcamp, http://www.hellocomputers.com/hellosuccess.html; -Original Message- From: Dion, Thierry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: logging the access on a router [7:34346] Hello I'm trying to log access on a router (who and when) with a simple configuration ( without tacacs+ or radius) how i can do this ? Kind Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34369t=34346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Long....RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
To add onto it...experience helps you support such networks and high profile web sites and enterprise networks in real time, where downtime is counted in minutes and sometimes in seconds. It is impossible to do clear ip bgp * and get your bgp routes which one may do all the time while preparing in a home lab. In my personal opinion, today it is possible to pass ccie lab by simply studying in home lab with all the help from books, lab workbooks, bootcamps, home lab and group studies out there, which is very good thing. I am sure, it was not the case in 1998 when Paul B. (taking him as a example only) passed his test. I think cisco should remove some of the old technologies from the lab and add some of these cool real world scenarios to a reasobale extent that John mentioned below. May be have candidates log to syslog and ask them that they can not type clear ip bgp more than twice in the whole lab. That will make candidates think from real world angle. That is just an example, many such things come to mind. Impressive article John, you described ccie's day in real world very well. -Keyur Shah- CCIE# 4799 (Security; Routing and Switching) css1,scsa,scna,mct,mcse,cni,mcne Hello Computers Say Hello to Your Future! http://www.hellocomputers.com Toll-Free: 1.877.794.3556 Now offering CCIE Security Lab Workbook and remote bootcamp, http://www.hellocomputers.com/hellosuccess.html; -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LongRE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] After receiving an email from Joe, I would agree that he sounds like a very intelligent person with tremendous initiative. I'd like to differentiate between lab experience and OTJ experience. Learning to configure OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP at home is one thing. Going to a customer site who has 200 nodes, half of which were acquired from another company and are running OSPF while half are running EIGRP and all areas need to be able to communicate with each other and also have multiple redundant and area-diverse connections to different internet providers using BGP...that is experience. :-) Then, after a decision has been made to use a single IGP, make a choice between EIGRP and OSPF, or even IS-IS. Justify your reasoning and then determine a migration plan that minimizes customer downtime and guarantees that all areas have internet access at all times even if their local provider goes down. Help the customer to coordinate with ARIN and service providers to get the necessary address space and an assigned autonomous system number. When a given area has multiple connections to the same ISP, attempt to influence routing in the ISP so that it takes the closest entrance into your network for that user. Attempt to influence routing within each ISP so that you increase the chances that optimal routing will occur. Make certain that you only advertise the necessary prefixes while filtering all others. Configure routing within each area to take the closet exit possible, within reason. Provision and order the necessary circuits after getting quotes from several providers. Make a determination when and if point to point links could/should be used and where frame relay or ATM would be most suitable. Make sure that you have plenty of room for growth and enough bandwidth to support video conferencing over IP for certain sections of this network. Determine which type of traffic shaping, queueing, and/or rate limiting might be necessary and where it would be most useful. Upgrade routers and switches as necessary, making sure that you won't run into processor limitations during high traffic loads and you have enough WIC and NM slots available to support the connections you require. Make sure you select an IOS that supports those modules and software features you'll needwhile minimizing the number of bugs that might affect you. Determine a backup plan for each area and include ISDN backup links, making sure the backup links can pass both IP, IPX, and some DLSw+ but do not pass streaming video and other non-essential traffic. Create a network infrastructure disaster recovery plan for each area and document your procedures. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, and *that's* what I mean by experience. Certainly, your experience doesn't need to be this comprehensive and detailed, I'm simply exaggerating to make a point. There is a *huge* difference between learning to configure this stuff at home and actually implementing it in the real world. Granted, this would be a huge task but it's one that a CCIE along with a group of engineers would be expected to be able to handle. A CCIE--even a highly intelligent and motivated one--with no experience would have difficulty with this. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/4/02 10:23:37 AM I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab. If he uses the lab and works through
Re: Long....RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899]
I think everyone is missing the point. By far the most important reason to get the CCIE is to get a job (honestly, why else would you do it?). But the stark reality is that without proper experience, you are going to find the job market quite tough anyway, I don't care how many or what certs you got. Granted, certs like the CCIE will help, but they won't help nearly as much as people seem to think they will. Let's face facts, it's not 1999 anymore. Companies are no longer infatuated with the 4-digit number. You don't have stupid dotcoms throwing money around like drunken sailors, and because of the changes in the Cisco Partnership agreements, you don't have all these Partners running around desperately trying to fill their CCIE quotas. Now, every company who's looking to hire a network engineer will inquire about your experience. Believe me, talking about all the time you spent in a home-lab is definitely not the answer they're looking for. Now I know that I'm probably not going to convince anybody otherwise. I've ran into some of these no-experience CCIE-wannabe fanatics in real-life and I've never been able to convince any of them to see the light. Like Fox Mulder, 'They want to believe'. They just want to believe that all their life's problems will be solved just by passing an (admittedly hard) exam. All I have to say is - go ahead, see for yourself, learn the hard way. Just don't say I didn't warn you. John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... After receiving an email from Joe, I would agree that he sounds like a very intelligent person with tremendous initiative. I'd like to differentiate between lab experience and OTJ experience. Learning to configure OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP at home is one thing. Going to a customer site who has 200 nodes, half of which were acquired from another company and are running OSPF while half are running EIGRP and all areas need to be able to communicate with each other and also have multiple redundant and area-diverse connections to different internet providers using BGP...that is experience. :-) Then, after a decision has been made to use a single IGP, make a choice between EIGRP and OSPF, or even IS-IS. Justify your reasoning and then determine a migration plan that minimizes customer downtime and guarantees that all areas have internet access at all times even if their local provider goes down. Help the customer to coordinate with ARIN and service providers to get the necessary address space and an assigned autonomous system number. When a given area has multiple connections to the same ISP, attempt to influence routing in the ISP so that it takes the closest entrance into your network for that user. Attempt to influence routing within each ISP so that you increase the chances that optimal routing will occur. Make certain that you only advertise the necessary prefixes while filtering all others. Configure routing within each area to take the closet exit possible, within reason. Provision and order the necessary circuits after getting quotes from several providers. Make a determination when and if point to point links could/should be used and where frame relay or ATM would be most suitable. Make sure that you have plenty of room for growth and enough bandwidth to support video conferencing over IP for certain sections of this network. Determine which type of traffic shaping, queueing, and/or rate limiting might be necessary and where it would be most useful. Upgrade routers and switches as necessary, making sure that you won't run into processor limitations during high traffic loads and you have enough WIC and NM slots available to support the connections you require. Make sure you select an IOS that supports those modules and software features you'll needwhile minimizing the number of bugs that might affect you. Determine a backup plan for each area and include ISDN backup links, making sure the backup links can pass both IP, IPX, and some DLSw+ but do not pass streaming video and other non-essential traffic. Create a network infrastructure disaster recovery plan for each area and document your procedures. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, and *that's* what I mean by experience. Certainly, your experience doesn't need to be this comprehensive and detailed, I'm simply exaggerating to make a point. There is a *huge* difference between learning to configure this stuff at home and actually implementing it in the real world. Granted, this would be a huge task but it's one that a CCIE along with a group of engineers would be expected to be able to handle. A CCIE--even a highly intelligent and motivated one--with no experience would have difficulty with this. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/4/02 10:23:37 AM I have to jump in here. The original post said he had an impressive lab. If he uses the lab and works through scenarios, isn't this what the
Traffic type monitoring [7:34382]
Hello everyone, Just wondering what you guys would use to monitor the traffic going over a single frame PVC? I was thinking of spanning the port on the switch, and using Sniffer with filters. Are there any better alternatives?? Thanks for any help! Sam. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34382t=34382 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Routing problem [7:34376]
Which router is the new one, COUR002 or COUR001? What is the LAN side on COUR002? Can you send info on it too? Priscilla At 04:24 PM 2/4/02, Fraasch James wrote: This should be a good one. I switched out an old IBM 6611 for a Cisco 7204 this weekend. There is a point to point T-1 from COUR002 to COUR001. Encapsulation is still PPP (didn't want to change too much. IBM requires PPP encapsulation). People from the COUR002 router are not able to access a particular server hanging off a Token Ring port at COUR001. I do a show ipx servers on the COUR002 router and I see that the router is gettng the SAP advertisement from the server hanging off the other end of the link(as long as they are not left over from before this weekend). But my user on the COUR002 cannot get connected to the server like they were as of last Friday. Here are the configs for the involved ports: COUR001 interface TokenRing2/0 description 2nd floor ip address 172.25.30.200 255.255.255.0 ip directed-broadcast ipx encapsulation SNAP ipx network A00B ring-speed 16 interface Serial3/3 description Connection to Marina mac-address 0200.1099.4182 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.249 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 nrzi-encoding COUR002: interface Serial0/0 mac-address 0200.1099.41c2 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.250 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ip ospf retransmit-interval 10 no ip mroute-cache no keepalive ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 no fair-queue nrzi-encoding We are using OSPF for routing and that seems to be fine. My thinking is that for some reason IPX is fouled up. I just cant figure out where or why. Any help would be appreciated. James Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34384t=34376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
Buy Cisco Presss books for the series. - Original Message - From: Aslam Rafay To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: CCNP EXAM [7:34373] Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34383t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
req: twins °¦¥Í¨à ·sºÐMP3, ¦P·R±¡·í¤J¾ê¼@³õª© [7:34385]
thx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34385t=34385 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP EXAM [7:34373]
I agree with you, but many of the CiscoPress books can be a little hard to understand, especially if you're new to the stuff. I also agree with you that Sybex (and other) books many times leave out stuff that you were surposed to know, but they do explain things in a better way sometimes. So, I will in most situations recommend reading 1 Study Guide and 1 CiscoPress Course Book. Before buying ANY books, I ALWAYS check the reviews on amazon. Hth, Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Fraasch James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP EXAM [7:34373] Good idea to stick with the most recent Cisco Press books. Maybe other people can say the same thing. I have studied with both Sybex and Cisco Press books and can say that with Sybex I felt like there were some surprises once I reached the test. With Cisco Press I don't think any topic on the test was left out. I swear I don't work for Cisco! I just like their books! slam Rafay wrote: Guys I am taking CCNP cource, any one who recently passed all CCNP exams tell me good resources i can utlitize to pass my exmas.. thanks, Rafay. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34386t=34373 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrong post [7:34387]
wrong post. sorry Ocsic thx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34387t=34387 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: twins °¦¥Í¨à ·sºÐMP3, ¦P·R±¡·í¤J¾ê¼@³õª© [7:34385]
wong post Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34388t=34385 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Priscilla, I can't think of anything that could have been broken by using the ip ospf priority command. Unless you've run into some sort of bug I'm guessing that there must be another issue. Were you playing around with the loopback addresses? Do you have any virtual links configured? I'm just wondering if you configured something that depended on a static router ID and by adding or changing a loopback you've confused one or two of the other routers. You mentioned that the frame relay interface is configured as point-to-point. Is the opposite side configured the same way? It must be since you said the adjacencies are forming...nevermind. Hmm... Are the missing routes in the OSPF database, just not in the routing table? If so, check out this link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/26.html I can't think of any one thing that describes this issue but I'll keep pondering... John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 2:30:35 PM Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34389t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Routing problem [7:34376]
I'm not sure how much this helps, especially since you can see the server in the SAP table, but can you do a novell ping from COUR002 to the server? Are there any other users elsewhere that *are* able to access this server? John Fraasch James 2/4/02 2:24:31 PM This should be a good one. I switched out an old IBM 6611 for a Cisco 7204 this weekend. There is a point to point T-1 from COUR002 to COUR001. Encapsulation is still PPP (didn't want to change too much. IBM requires PPP encapsulation). People from the COUR002 router are not able to access a particular server hanging off a Token Ring port at COUR001. I do a show ipx servers on the COUR002 router and I see that the router is gettng the SAP advertisement from the server hanging off the other end of the link(as long as they are not left over from before this weekend). But my user on the COUR002 cannot get connected to the server like they were as of last Friday. Here are the configs for the involved ports: COUR001 interface TokenRing2/0 description 2nd floor ip address 172.25.30.200 255.255.255.0 ip directed-broadcast ipx encapsulation SNAP ipx network A00B ring-speed 16 interface Serial3/3 description Connection to Marina mac-address 0200.1099.4182 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.249 255.255.255.252 ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 nrzi-encoding COUR002: interface Serial0/0 mac-address 0200.1099.41c2 mtu 2044 ip address 172.25.252.250 255.255.255.252 no ip directed-broadcast encapsulation ppp ip ospf retransmit-interval 10 no ip mroute-cache no keepalive ipx network B048 ipx update interval rip 300 ipx update interval sap 300 no fair-queue nrzi-encoding We are using OSPF for routing and that seems to be fine. My thinking is that for some reason IPX is fouled up. I just cant figure out where or why. Any help would be appreciated. James Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34390t=34376 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Have you checked your hello and dead time intervals (sho ip ospf interfaces) to make sure they match on your participating routers??Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34391t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAT'S RULE!!! -- actual Cisco stuff mentioned [7:34392]
Not only am I from CA, I'm from Oakland. But I don't actually think the game was unfair; I just like griping . I root for any team whose town I live in (the Warriors excepted) Has anyone read the recent article in Network Computing mag on Windows technology in Cisco gear? (http://www.networkcomputing.com/1303/1303colshipley.html). My God, stupidity and cupidity will never cease. It certainly would make me want to re-think migrating my voice system to VoIP on any platform that does this. I've already fired off an e-mail to the author asking about which platforms other than Cisco are adopting this. Must research further... And just to keep this on-topic, I'm starting my CCNP in a couple of weeks... Steven A. Ridder 02/04/2002 1:18:21 PM Another person from CA, eh? The call was by the rule book, even if the rule may have been unfair as some people have claimed. We had that exect call go against us in week 2 of a Jets game and we never cried. We even lost that game. It's a legitimate rule. AND, the Raiders still could have stopped us before getting to kick the FG that put it into overtime. Then in overtime, the Raiders still didn't stop us. So it wasn't like the refs just handed us the game. There still were some major playing and feats that we had to make to get us to where we got in that game. Steve Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34392t=34392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
There was a virtual link. The virtual link was from R1 over to another router across the Frame Relay cloud. R1 is an ABR connecting Area 0 and Area 1. Area 0 is the Ethernet LAN. Area 1 is the Frame Relay cloud. For some unknown reason, there's an Area 2 also on the other side of Area 1. Does that ring a bell regarding any gotchas?? Thanks Priscilla At 03:03 PM 2/4/02, John Neiberger wrote: Priscilla, I can't think of anything that could have been broken by using the ip ospf priority command. Unless you've run into some sort of bug I'm guessing that there must be another issue. Were you playing around with the loopback addresses? Do you have any virtual links configured? I'm just wondering if you configured something that depended on a static router ID and by adding or changing a loopback you've confused one or two of the other routers. You mentioned that the frame relay interface is configured as point-to-point. Is the opposite side configured the same way? It must be since you said the adjacencies are forming...nevermind. Hmm... Are the missing routes in the OSPF database, just not in the routing table? If so, check out this link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/26.html I can't think of any one thing that describes this issue but I'll keep pondering... John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 2:30:35 PM Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34393t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Priscilla, Now that you have R1 as the DR, it's his responsibility to announce that network out to everyone else. Is R1 sending out LSAs (Network LSA, type 2) to wherever it is that you are trying to see that network? (Is it R3's routing table that you can't see the Ethernet segment of R1 and R2?) Does the network show up in the OSPF database but not the routing table? Or just the routing table? Chris -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34395t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Compare the OSPF hello interval on the FR interfaces with that on the Ethernet interfaces... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: 04 February 2002 22:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Priscilla, I can't think of anything that could have been broken by using the ip ospf priority command. Unless you've run into some sort of bug I'm guessing that there must be another issue. Were you playing around with the loopback addresses? Do you have any virtual links configured? I'm just wondering if you configured something that depended on a static router ID and by adding or changing a loopback you've confused one or two of the other routers. You mentioned that the frame relay interface is configured as point-to-point. Is the opposite side configured the same way? It must be since you said the adjacencies are forming...nevermind. Hmm... Are the missing routes in the OSPF database, just not in the routing table? If so, check out this link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/26.html I can't think of any one thing that describes this issue but I'll keep pondering... John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 2:30:35 PM Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34394t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
hmmm in ospf NBMA network i thought when you specified point to point there was no DR, BDR election. so maybe playing with the priorities may have caused problems -Original Message- From: Kane, Christopher A. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 9:36 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Priscilla, Now that you have R1 as the DR, it's his responsibility to announce that network out to everyone else. Is R1 sending out LSAs (Network LSA, type 2) to wherever it is that you are trying to see that network? (Is it R3's routing table that you can't see the Ethernet segment of R1 and R2?) Does the network show up in the OSPF database but not the routing table? Or just the routing table? Chris -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34396t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PAT'S RULE!!! -- actual Cisco stuff mentioned [7:34392]
After reading the article, the author didn't give any evidence to support his claim that Cisco is using Microsoft code... If he's right, I am certainly interested to know what platforms are using MS code. - Sean -Original Message- From: Patricia Leeb-Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAT'S RULE!!! -- actual Cisco stuff mentioned [7:34392] Not only am I from CA, I'm from Oakland. But I don't actually think the game was unfair; I just like griping . I root for any team whose town I live in (the Warriors excepted) Has anyone read the recent article in Network Computing mag on Windows technology in Cisco gear? (http://www.networkcomputing.com/1303/1303colshipley.html). My God, stupidity and cupidity will never cease. It certainly would make me want to re-think migrating my voice system to VoIP on any platform that does this. I've already fired off an e-mail to the author asking about which platforms other than Cisco are adopting this. Must research further... And just to keep this on-topic, I'm starting my CCNP in a couple of weeks... Steven A. Ridder 02/04/2002 1:18:21 PM Another person from CA, eh? The call was by the rule book, even if the rule may have been unfair as some people have claimed. We had that exect call go against us in week 2 of a Jets game and we never cried. We even lost that game. It's a legitimate rule. AND, the Raiders still could have stopped us before getting to kick the FG that put it into overtime. Then in overtime, the Raiders still didn't stop us. So it wasn't like the refs just handed us the game. There still were some major playing and feats that we had to make to get us to where we got in that game. Steve Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dang it, Steven, you had me thinking that this was a message about Port Address Translation! :-D Next time please spell out the team name. Or pick another team! The Raiders were robbed, robbed, I say! Steven A. Ridder 02/03/2002 8:48:08 PM PATRIOTS! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34397t=34392 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
Definitely! The biggest gotcha is if the router ID changed on either router that has virtual links configured. The configs will have to be changed to reflect the new router IDs or the virtual link won't work. If it's a virtual link problem, though, at the console (or by using term mon) or R1 you should see some virtual-link-related errors every few seconds. You can also use show ip ospf virt to help troubleshoot that particular issue. That's my official guess. Somewhere the VL is broken and it's probably due to a change in router ID. Let me know if that's not the problem and I'll put the thinking cap back on! John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 3:30:18 PM There was a virtual link. The virtual link was from R1 over to another router across the Frame Relay cloud. R1 is an ABR connecting Area 0 and Area 1. Area 0 is the Ethernet LAN. Area 1 is the Frame Relay cloud. For some unknown reason, there's an Area 2 also on the other side of Area 1. Does that ring a bell regarding any gotchas?? Thanks Priscilla At 03:03 PM 2/4/02, John Neiberger wrote: Priscilla, I can't think of anything that could have been broken by using the ip ospf priority command. Unless you've run into some sort of bug I'm guessing that there must be another issue. Were you playing around with the loopback addresses? Do you have any virtual links configured? I'm just wondering if you configured something that depended on a static router ID and by adding or changing a loopback you've confused one or two of the other routers. You mentioned that the frame relay interface is configured as point-to-point. Is the opposite side configured the same way? It must be since you said the adjacencies are forming...nevermind. Hmm... Are the missing routes in the OSPF database, just not in the routing table? If so, check out this link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/26.html I can't think of any one thing that describes this issue but I'll keep pondering... John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 2:30:35 PM Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34398t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
At 05:33 PM 2/4/02, Walter Rogowski wrote: Compare the OSPF hello interval on the FR interfaces with that on the Ethernet interfaces... I think they were different but that's normal, isn't it? The Hello timer for Ethernet is 10 seconds. For non-broadcast networks it's 30 seconds. The Frame Relay cloud was configured as point-to-point links. The Ethernet routers formed an adjacency. The FR routers formed adjacencies. The Ethernet routers simply failed to tell the FR side about the Ethernet LAN!! This was a remote lab that I only used for a few hours and now I'm not on it anymore. I will get back in soon and do some more research. Thanks for everyone's suggestions. Priscilla -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: 04 February 2002 22:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Priscilla, I can't think of anything that could have been broken by using the ip ospf priority command. Unless you've run into some sort of bug I'm guessing that there must be another issue. Were you playing around with the loopback addresses? Do you have any virtual links configured? I'm just wondering if you configured something that depended on a static router ID and by adding or changing a loopback you've confused one or two of the other routers. You mentioned that the frame relay interface is configured as point-to-point. Is the opposite side configured the same way? It must be since you said the adjacencies are forming...nevermind. Hmm... Are the missing routes in the OSPF database, just not in the routing table? If so, check out this link: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/26.html I can't think of any one thing that describes this issue but I'll keep pondering... John Priscilla Oppenheimer 2/4/02 2:30:35 PM Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34399t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379]
If you debug ospf adjacencies you might see complaints re mismatched hello intervals. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Baker, Jason Sent: 04 February 2002 22:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] hmmm in ospf NBMA network i thought when you specified point to point there was no DR, BDR election. so maybe playing with the priorities may have caused problems -Original Message- From: Kane, Christopher A. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 9:36 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Priscilla, Now that you have R1 as the DR, it's his responsibility to announce that network out to everyone else. Is R1 sending out LSAs (Network LSA, type 2) to wherever it is that you are trying to see that network? (Is it R3's routing table that you can't see the Ethernet segment of R1 and R2?) Does the network show up in the OSPF database but not the routing table? Or just the routing table? Chris -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OSPF DR problem [7:34379] Hi Group Study, Playing with IP OSPF priority to influence which router became the Designated Router (DR) caused routing problems for me in a recent bout with a lab exercise. Can anyone help me understand if I did something wrong? I have 2 routers on an Ethernet LAN. Both of them also have WAN connections to remote sites. R1 has a Frame Relay link to the corporate cloud via its S0 port. S0 is configured as ip ospf network point-to-point. R2 has an ISDN link to yet another router, R3. This link is configured as an OSPF point-to-point demand circuit. R1 and R2 are connected via an Ethernet switch. My goal was to make sure R1 became the DR on Ethernet. Both routers have loopbacks, but R2's is higher, so to make sure R2 did not become the DR, I configured it with: ip ospf priority 0 R1 then did indeed become the DR on the Ethernet LAN because it was using the default priority 1. Now, finally to the question.. On the other side of the ISDN and across the Frame Relay cloud, I couldn't see the Ethernet LAN in the routing table. Routers formed adjacencies correctly and could reach most networks, but not that darn Ethernet LAN. R1 and R2 on the Ethernet LAN formed an adjacency and could see the rest of the internetwork. Could I have broken something by playing with the priority?? Thanks for your help. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34400t=34379 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic type monitoring [7:34382]
by monitoring, i mean by protocol and possibly port..sorry, should have been more specific. Dont think MRTG will do this?? Thanks though! Sam. -Original Message- From: Jeroen Timmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 9:09 AM To: 'Sam Deckert' Subject: RE: Traffic type monitoring [7:34382] You can try MRTG or the RRDtool. Gr8 tools for watching traffic. JT -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Traffic type monitoring [7:34382] Hello everyone, Just wondering what you guys would use to monitor the traffic going over a single frame PVC? I was thinking of spanning the port on the switch, and using Sniffer with filters. Are there any better alternatives?? Thanks for any help! Sam. i=34382t=34382 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=34401t=34382 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
