HSRP on MSFCs with DECnet [7:34828]

2002-02-08 Thread Caplan M

Hi,

I'm working with the following scenario.


msfc1 msfc2
ip -10.1.1.1  ip 10.1.1.2
DECnet - 1.1  DECnet 1.2
|   HSRP - 10.1.1.3 |
|   |
-
  |   |
IP hosts DECnet hosts
  
I'm putting together a design using 2 6509s each with MSFCs. I want to
provide IP redundancy via HSRP, but also run DECnet on both VLAN interfaces.
The virtual MAC address problem of HSRP interacting with DECnet can be
solved using 'standby use-bia' command. However I would prefer not to rely
on the 'gratuitous arp' solution for my IP hosts; I dont know if they are
all compliant.

A better solution for a normal router is to use sub interfaces and the scope
command, say a 2620. That way, I could configure IP on one sub-interface,
and DECnet on another sub-interface. This would mean DECnet hosts could talk
happily to their DR using the DEC aa-00-04-00-xx-xx MAC address, while the
IP hosts could talk to the Cisco OUI virtual mac address - ie HSRP would
only be configured on one of the subinterfaces

eg:

int fa0.1
ip addr 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
standby 1 ip 10.1.1.3 pre

int fa0.2
decnet cost 10

But I dont see how I can do this trick with an MSFC. You cant split a VLAN
interface into sub-interfaces.

So how do I make a VLAN interface talk DECnet with aa-00-04 MAC address, and
also respond to the normal HSRP cisco MAC address.

Any ideas ? I really dont want to rely on gratuitous ARP. I'm sure that
anything you can do with a 2620, you should be able to to at least as good
with 6500s and MSFC !!

Thanks in advance

Mark



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Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitment? [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Gaz

Some people live so fast
They're so scared of getting old
Some people keep on working
All they do is line their graves with gold

From the same track by Joe Jackson - Not bad for a baseball player :-)

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 We only know we die too soon
 But then we have to try
 Or else the world becomes
 a waiting room.

 I like it! I had to look up who Joe Jackson is, but still I like it. ;-)
 Here's another similar one, from my hero:

 Cowards die many times before their deaths;
 The valiant never taste of death but once.
 Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
 It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
 Seeing that death, a necessary end,
 Will come when it will come.

 ATTRIBUTION: Julius Cfsar. Act ii. Sc. 2.
 AUTHOR: William Shakespeare (15641616)

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:17 PM
 Subject: RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitment? [7:34634]
 
 
   You get out it what you put into it. Its that simple.
  
   I know far too many people who would do well but refuse to admit that
 they
   need to spend some time studying. why wont they pay for it is the
 biggest
   whine.. you are entitled to NOTHING in this world except to die at
some
   point so it's really up to you where to go and how to get there.
  
   In my years, I have had the commute from hell and I used audio tapes
and
   studied during lunchtime instead of going out with the guys. I
squeezed
 in
   some class time at the college. I've spent time carpooling with the
 express
   idea of reading.. I have a laptop so I can at the least run sims on
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 run.
   I take it to family functions and it's understood that after a few
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   togetherness, I will disappear for a few hours of study time. I've
 explained
   to my daughter that even daddy has homework to do and so we each do
our
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   it's a tough balancing act to do.
  
   If there is a will, there is a way.
  
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Re: Boson CCIE Skill Labs?? [7:34779]

2002-02-08 Thread steve skinner

i am in the uk and am trying to get my hands on the lab1 book($95)...

i will let you all know how i get on 




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I was wondering the same. Let me know if you hear anything.

Jeff

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The
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content.
  Boson has always provided excellent learning aids for the other Cisco
  exams(IMHO) and am sure that this one is also good. Just not sure if I
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Re: VOIP Vic-2fx cards [7:34768]

2002-02-08 Thread Patrick Donlon

Richard

I've had the very same problem some time ago, it was really annoying, can
you post the config, it'll probably jog my memory as to what was wrong

Cheers

Pat
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: VOIP  Vic-2fx cards [7:34768]


 Hi All,

 I have 2 x Cisco 2621 routers and each have a 2port fxs voice card -
 vic-2fxs installed.

 When I plug my phone into port 1/0/0 of a vic-2fxs card installed in a
2621
 I get dial tone.

 When I use port 1/0/1 I do not get dial tone.

 Is there any reason for this and what am I doing wrong.

 Regards
 Richard
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Re: RIP Problem [7:34777]

2002-02-08 Thread Sajeel Fahim

Hello  there..
well in rip v1, routing updates are sent WITHOUT SUBNET MASK out a router.
for example a subnet of 134.8.2.0 will be advertised BUT if on the recieving
interface the SUBNET MASK is /16, it will consider 16 bits of this address
as a network and rest of 16 as host. this will make this network 134.8.0.0 .
Most probabably the interface of R1 connected to R3 has an IP address of
SUBNET MASK /16 that is why your R1 does not see these routes.

To solve this problem, make a secondary address on your R1 interface
connected to R3 and give it an IP address of /24.

I hope I made my point clear.

bye
sajeel
CCNA
CCNP
Looking for job:)

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From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: RIP Problem [7:34777]


 Hi all,

 I had the following problem while configuring two rip routers.

 There is a FR cloud between them

 R1 sends all his known subnets correct two the other (R3) router.
 On R 3 there is a redistribution from ospf in RIP. On R3 I see ALL routes
 learnde via ospf.

 When I debug ip rip (events) I see on R3 the following output:
 --
 !R3:
 RIP: sending v1 update to 255.255.255.255 via Serial0 (134.8.31.3)
 01:45:21:  host134.8.235.4, metric 1
 01:45:21:  host134.8.235.6, metric 1
 01:45:21:  subnet  134.8.235.0, metric 1
 01:45:21:  subnet  134.8.3.0, metric 1
 01:45:21:  host134.8.2.2, metric 1
 01:45:21:  host134.8.6.6, metric 1
 01:45:21:  host134.8.4.4, metric 1
 01:45:21:  subnet  134.8.35.0, metric 1
 ---

 but on R1 I don't see this routes

 any comments ?

 On both routers is version 12.0

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show ip route longer-prefixes [7:34834]

2002-02-08 Thread bergenpeak

Hi,

I've got a router with a number of routes defined (connected interfaces,
route learned from OSPF, etc.)   One of these routes is a default route.

When I do a show ip route for a network which has a specific routing
entry (ie non-default), I get back the expected routing information.

If I do a show ip route for a network not explicitly in the routing
table,
I get a Network not in table.  Why do I get an error message instead
of
the command returning the entry for the default route?

I've noticed that for networks not explicitly covered by a non-default
entry
in the routing table that if I do a show ip route 
longer-prefixes the
default route is returned.

Thanks




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CCIE Written All in one [7:34835]

2002-02-08 Thread Persio Pucci

Hi folks,

I am looking for a one-stop-shop book for CCIE written... I am considering
Caslow's CCIE Resource Library - 2001 Ed, it is well reviewed everywhere.
Any comments on this? Any other suggestions?

Regards,

Persio Pucci - CCNP
UOL Inc. - Tecnologia
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Re: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread Phil Barker

Not to my knowledge.

Collisions are only relevant to contention based
technologies the most common being CSMA/CD (Collision
Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection) as
defined by the IEEE in 802.3. Serial links do not fit
this bill as they have separate Tx and Rx pairs and
therefore operate as full duplex.

Regards,

Phil.

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RE: MPLS and VPN Architectures book [7:34792]

2002-02-08 Thread Caplan M

I'm reading it and so far I'm pleased with it. I haven't got to the VPN
stuff yet though, but its given me a good grounging in tag switching and MPLS.


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RE: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread Surya Prakash

Right. More light. Collisions are possible only on technologies like
CSMACD, CSMACA TR. In these technologies there is a contest for
bandwidth. 



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A serial line is a point-to-point link. Collisions are only possible on
a shared medium, such as ethernet.

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Folks, I've been searching CCO but cannot find answers to this. Is it
possible to get collissions in serial lines? If there are, what could
cause this?
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Re: OT : OSPF design review [7:34839]

2002-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 2:05 AM -0500 2/8/02, Mannan Venkatesan wrote:
Guys,
Sorry for the off-topic. I am doing an OSPF network design review and trying
to document the resources used by OSPF (link bandwidth and router
CPU/memory).
I have already gone through RFC 1245. Just wondering whether there is any
more
good reference/documents regarding this.

Thanks,
Mannan

I'm copying this to the general list because it doesn't pertain 
specifically to the CCIE lab, and some people on the lab list are 
very sensitive to posts perceived to be off-topic.

First, the current OSPF specification is RFC 2328.

There is no simple answer, but let me give some ideas.  LSAs are 
variable length, but typically take up 200-400 bytes of memory each. 
LSAs, of course, need to be preceded by packet headers, and there are 
only so many LSAs that can fit into a packet.

How much bandwidth is consumed largely depends on how many LSAs are 
in the area and how often they change. You could be conservative and 
assume there will be a burst of all of them every 30 minutes, 
although newer IOS implementations will spread that out over time. In 
addition to this, you have variable-length HELLOs at a default 
interval of 10 seconds.

To get an idea of CPU load, start with a single area.  The CPU 
loading for the route computation is proportional

 (numberOfPrefixes**2)*log(numberOfRouters)

As you start introducing inter-area and external rates, they cause 
the load generally to go up in a linear fashion, where the intra-area 
computation (the true Dijkstra) increases the load exponentially.

The actual processor load, of course, will depend on how fast the 
processor is. You could, I suppose, create a synthetic load and 
measure the route table computation percentage of CPU (it should take 
1 second) and extrapolate that to the number of prefixes and routers 
you expect to use.




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Re: Syslog Server [7:34818]

2002-02-08 Thread NetEng

Take a look at Winsyslog. Good product, with great support and lots of
features.


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RE: Exam 640-900 and the CID exam [7:34752]

2002-02-08 Thread Mears, Rob

You go!  Feel the FORCE

Rob Mears III, CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I, NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, A+
Valor Telecom
LAN\WAN Engineer
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640-900 should be a easy task


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 I am getting ready to take my CID exam, any advice?

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Re: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread Eric Mwambaji

Theoretically, it is impossible to get collisions on a
serial line. LAN bus architecture experiences
collisions because two devices can send frames to the
bus at the exact same time. Serial interfaces transmit
on a frequency if you will. This means that the frames
will pass each other even when sent at the same time.

Eric
CCNP

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RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]

2002-02-08 Thread george gittins

does the same apply to ethernet?

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After you remove the subif and do a write mem does the startup-config
still shows the subif?  If it does, I would tftp the config to a file, edit
the file and tftp it back to the router and reload.

Just a guess.

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The router has been rebooted multiple, but the subif's persist.

- Sean

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In general, I believe that when you delete a subinterface (at least on
serial lines) the subinterface won't go away until you reboot the router.

HTH,
Mike W.




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Re: Cramsession CCIE Written [7:34806]

2002-02-08 Thread Michael J. Doherty

CramSession.com is currently undergoing a server move.  The entire site is
hosted on temporary servers during this process, which should be completed
sometime soon.  There are intermittent issues with some of the site
connectivity, but I had not heard of this particular problem.  I have sent
it to the attention of the appropriate individuals.

Sincerely,

Mike

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To: 
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Subject: RE: Cramsession CCIE Written [7:34806]


 I wasn't able to resolve cramsession, but if you go to brainbuzz.com and
 follow the links, it seems to work.  By the way, I wrote that cramsession,
 so if you can't get it any other way, let me know and I'll send you a copy
 from home later tonight...

 --- Dennis

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RE: Please confirm (conf#3ed311c4505257e8dec16f53a65733c9) [7:34846]

2002-02-08 Thread amit

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Load balancing [7:34845]

2002-02-08 Thread amit

I have to plan a configuration for providing the Load balancing with two
DSL Links available for Internet . This balancing may be provided by
using Routers or Firewall.
I dont know much about the load balancing at these levels . Kindly
suggest the solution including the equipments could be used.


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RE: CIT Exam difficulty... [7:34632]

2002-02-08 Thread Dimitris Vassilopoulos

From my point of view, here is what I see:

Hardest --- Easiest

CIT - Routing - Switching - BCRAN

Good luck

Dvass


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Re: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Gaz

Right!

I have to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before
I go to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down
mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when I get
home, our Dad'll kill us, and dance about on our graves singing
Hallelujah.

You tell that to the young people of today - And they won't believe you!


Gaz


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to
 union station around 7:00 AM.  at night my train leaves at 6:00, i get
home
 around 8:00.  with the extra sleep time i need in order to function, i am
 still able to squeeze off at least 90 min of uninterrupted reading time on
 the train and then go home, deal with wife/kids/bills/life stuff and still
 have a good hour or so to research stuff in my lab before bedtime happens
 and it all starts again.at this rate, i am trying to set a schedule of
 finishing CCNP by early summer.


 jim


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  It's all about focus, drive, and motiviation. It's very difficult to
work
  7-8hrs/day, then come home and study for 5 more.  Then on the weekends,
  study an additional 8-12hrs/day.  (I did that schedule for 1 month prior
 to
  my lab exam, and a similar schedule 2-3 months out from my exam)  It was
  very taxing, and hard to spend time with my significant other (who I
  acutally bought a dog to keep her occupied).  How some people can spend
 the
  amount of time that they do with a family, and other disctractions is
  amazing.
 
  Try and set expectations in your household.  Let people know that this
is
  your quiet time.  Start off spending 2 hours a night, and see if that
 does
  the trick for you. If it's too much, cut back to an hour, if you can
 handle
  more, do 3 hours.  Remeber, an hour a night, every night, really adds
up.
 
  After all is said and done, it's focus, motivation, concentration,
drive,
  and buying someone a dog!  :)
 
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
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  Network Learning Inc
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  what
   is the average hours people put in to thier job after hours? Some I
 think
  do
   nothing. Others eat drink sleep and live the stuff. I know work is
   important.but




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suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]

2002-02-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Does anyone have another method of suspending sessions when reverse
telnetting from access servers or into modems?  ctrl shift 6 never works for
me.




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VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread Woods, Randall, SOBUS

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could give me some recommendations of what
equipment would be best suited for adding VOIP to my home lab. I am
considering getting the 2600 series but wanted some advise on if there was
anything smaller or better suited for the job.   Thanks for the help.

Woody




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Re: VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

try a 1750 or 1751.
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 Hi all,
 I was wondering if anyone could give me some recommendations of what
 equipment would be best suited for adding VOIP to my home lab. I am
 considering getting the 2600 series but wanted some advise on if there was
 anything smaller or better suited for the job.   Thanks for the help.

 Woody




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RE: suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]

2002-02-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

After doing Ctrl+Shift+6 then type an x.

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 Subject: suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]
 
 
 Does anyone have another method of suspending sessions when reverse
 telnetting from access servers or into modems?  ctrl shift 6 
 never works for
 me.




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Re: suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]

2002-02-08 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Forget it.  I tried a different terminal emulation program it works better.
The other one must not be sending the escape sequence correctly.
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 telnetting from access servers or into modems?  ctrl shift 6 never works
for
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Re: 3DES [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where there
are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-

Chuck


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 Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to bother ??


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  My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt your
  traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES will keep
the
  curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
  
  
   I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going with
   the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our office is not
   that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I see that
   the Pix 515R
   only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when I buy the
   router, I can get
   it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to use
   3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
   matter. The way I
   see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I would
   have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
   thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on this?
  
  
  
   Thanks in advance...
  
  
  
   Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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RE: 3DES [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Evans, TJ

I heard it put very well, and wish I could attribute it but I don't recall
the source:
To paraphrase, it goes something like this:
  
Think of what it is your company makes, does or sells ... or is planning on
doing so in the future.
... and how it makes it and/or does it, how much it costs to do so, etc.
... and who it sells it to ... and for how much .. and where this money goes

Think of what differentiates you from your competitors .. quality, quantity,
unique products/information/processes, etc.
Now think of what would happen to your company if your competition
knew all of this.




Granted - you can argue that this oversimplifies things a little bit, but it
makes a point that will readily hit home with management if nothing else!
Thanks!
TJ
... just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

 -Original Message-
From:   Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: 3DES [7:34756]

The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where there
are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-

Chuck


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 Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to bother ??


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  My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt your
  traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES will keep
the
  curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
  
  
   I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going with
   the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our office is not
   that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I see that
   the Pix 515R
   only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when I buy the
   router, I can get
   it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to use
   3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
   matter. The way I
   see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I would
   have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
   thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on this?
  
  
  
   Thanks in advance...
  
  
  
   Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+
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Re: CCIE Written All in one [7:34835]

2002-02-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That book is a great complete book. But I would use along with that Hassam
Halabi Internet Routing Architectures 2nd Edition, and TCP/IP routing
volume 1 and 2. Those books cover a great deal of info. With these books
and a bit of experience of course I think that will get you through.




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CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Joshua Barnes

I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitment? [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Hartnell, George

I don't think this was Shoeless Joe Jackson, but rather a self-described
awkward, skinny, asthmatic child who later became a musician/writer.  Ref:
google/joe jackson

My own quote:

This thread sounds like running thirty miles and hour on a treadmill going
sixty.

Best, G.
VP OGC

 Some people live so fast
 They're so scared of getting old
 Some people keep on working
 All they do is line their graves with gold
 
 From the same track by Joe Jackson - Not bad for a baseball player :-)




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Re: Syslog Server [7:34818]

2002-02-08 Thread Joel Satterley

Try 3Com's syslog/TFTP/FTP daemon..



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Re: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Stevan Pierce

I thought that this test was the easiest of them all.  All of the other
tests for the CCNP had a little bit of troubleshooting in them, so you have
been prepped already.

Good luck!
Joshua Barnes  wrote in message
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 I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
 I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest
test,
 did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

 I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
 this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate
the
 test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
 me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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Re: 3DES [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Craig Columbus

A couple of questions regarding the original post and then some comments:

It was unclear to me from the original post why you need the DES/3DES.  Are 
you running end user VPN clients?  Router-router tunnels?  You need to 
consider the purpose of the encryption and the information it's intended to 
guard before deciding on the level.  I've got some clients (law enforcement 
agencies, brokerage firms, etc.) where I don't take any comfort from 
3DES.  On the other hand, I've got some small business clients that use 
encryption for interoffice links that transfer non-sensitive/low sensitive 
information.  For these guys, DES is plenty.

Craig


At 11:06 AM 2/8/2002 -0500, you wrote:
The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where there
are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-

Chuck


Joel Satterley  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to bother
??
 
 
  Daniel Cotts  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt your
   traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES will keep
the
   curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
  
-Original Message-
From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
   
   
I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going with
the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our office is
not
that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I see that
the Pix 515R
only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when I buy the
router, I can get
it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to
use
3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
matter. The way I
see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I would
have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on this?
   
   
   
Thanks in advance...
   
   
   
Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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RE: 3DES [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Brian Zeitz

We deal with interfacing Alarm systems, both fire and security. 3Des
would be needed so someone would have a hard time tripping alarms via
the internet. I don't want to get out of bed at 3am, along with a lot of
other people, fire, police, owners etc. Also we are writing Code, which
programmers spend hours/days/weeks on. And we are getting patents, and
writing code for the hardware. I think security is going to be much more
important as time goes on. I am the extreme paranoid type, so I would
rather take the safe route every time. I think if Enron had some
hackers, and they deleted some data, it would only be doing them a favor
at this point.

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3DES [7:34756]

The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where
there
are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-

Chuck


Joel Satterley  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to
bother ??


 Daniel Cotts  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt
your
  traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES will
keep
the
  curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
  
  
   I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going
with
   the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our office is
not
   that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I see that
   the Pix 515R
   only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when I buy the
   router, I can get
   it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to
use
   3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
   matter. The way I
   see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I
would
   have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
   thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on
this?
  
  
  
   Thanks in advance...
  
  
  
   Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread William Gragido

When I took it, I thought it was not the most difficult one that I had
taken.  Its broad though, covers a lot of things but not too terrible.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Joshua Barnes
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CIT Test [7:34856]


I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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RE: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34863]

2002-02-08 Thread Glenn Johnson

Any idea when they might add the successor to 3DES (AES)?

(I've seen the Jan 2001 position paper at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/hb/vp3000/prodlit/vpnpo_sd.htm --
just wondering if anyone knew more re timelines [assuming such can be
shared, if it exists].)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3DES [7:34756]


The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where
there are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-

Chuck


Joel Satterley  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to 
 bother ??


 Daniel Cotts  wrote in message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt 
  your traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES 
  will keep
the
  curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
  
  
   I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going 
   with the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our 
   office is not that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I 
   see that the Pix 515R only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when

   I buy the router, I can get
   it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to
use
   3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
   matter. The way I
   see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I
would
   have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
   thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on
this?
  
  
  
   Thanks in advance...
  
  
  
   Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Mixa

hello,

I have a question:

I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an error
message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.

Thanks,

Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is HD64570
  Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters 1d02h
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
 Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer




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RE: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34863]

2002-02-08 Thread Alex Lei

FIPS197 was declared as the new AES in November, 2001. The standard will be
in effect in May, 2002. When do we see it in actual products... not too sure.

http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/fips/fips197/fips-197.pdf


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RE: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Alex Lei

I have a feeling this is a mismatch type of problem. Please see the link
below:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1918.htm


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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Alex Lei

I don't think it was difficult, it was simply illy - organized and poorly
worded. As always, if it's too confusing to reason, process of elimination
works great.

Alex


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RE: Syslog Server [7:34818]

2002-02-08 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

kiwi tools is great.

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Take a look at Winsyslog. Good product, with great support and lots of
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Re: VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread NKP

I have just orderd 2 NM-1V modules with FXS cards  for my 2 2600 series
routers , I think that should do .
  These modules are quite expensive unfortunately .
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 anything smaller or better suited for the job.   Thanks for the help.

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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Clark Jason

From what I remember, this test was not as hard as routing. Know your show
and debugs, ISDN troubleshooting, and some Frame-Relay...not to mention
stuff about the tools on CCO that can be used for problem determination.


HTH,

Jason Clark, CCNP


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Re: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Colin

The Rijndael block cipher.

Colin

Glenn Johnson wrote:

 Any idea when they might add the successor to 3DES (AES)?
 
 (I've seen the Jan 2001 position paper at
 http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/hb/vp3000/prodlit/vpnpo_sd.htm --
 just wondering if anyone knew more re timelines [assuming such can be
 shared, if it exists].)
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 3DES [7:34756]
 
 
 The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
 espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where
 there are proprietary processes in place.
 
 Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :-
 
 Chuck
 
 
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Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to 
bother ??


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My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt 
your traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES 
will keep

 the
 
curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.


-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 3DES [7:34756]


I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going 
with the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our 
office is not that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I 
see that the Pix 515R only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when

 
I buy the router, I can get
it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to

 use
 
3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
matter. The way I
see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I

 would
 
have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on

 this?
 


Thanks in advance...



Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+




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Re: CIT Exam difficulty... [7:34632]

2002-02-08 Thread David L. Blair

My order was (Hardest to Easiest)   Routing  BCRAN  CIT  Switching

Score Order (Highest to Lowest score)   CIT  Routing  Switching  BCRAN


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard


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 From my point of view, here is what I see:

 Hardest --- Easiest

 CIT - Routing - Switching - BCRAN

 Good luck

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Re: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Cisco Nuts

If you only have 2 routers, then you need to disable keepalives on both 
sides - #no keepalive.
One side has to provided the clocking, the DCE side with # clock rate 64000
Encap has to be frame-relay, PPP won't work as this is a frame circuit not a 
point-to-point.
Then do a #frame-relay map ip   on both sides.
This will work.
Regards.



From: Mixa 
Reply-To: Mixa 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:42:27 -0500

hello,

I have a question:

I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an error
message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.

Thanks,

Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
   Hardware is HD64570
   Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
   Keepalive set (10 sec)
   LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
   LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
   LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
   FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
   Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 
0
   Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
   Last clearing of show interface counters 1d02h
   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
  Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
  Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer
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RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]

2002-02-08 Thread Sean Knox

Andy, tftp'ing the config and editing out the subif's did the trick. Thanks!

-Sean

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To: Sean Knox; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


After you remove the subif and do a write mem does the startup-config
still shows the subif?  If it does, I would tftp the config to a file, edit
the file and tftp it back to the router and reload.

Just a guess.

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Sean Knox
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


The router has been rebooted multiple, but the subif's persist.

- Sean

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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


In general, I believe that when you delete a subinterface (at least on
serial lines) the subinterface won't go away until you reboot the router.

HTH,
Mike W.




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CCIE-lab scenarios [7:34870]

2002-02-08 Thread Clark Jason

Hello all,

Question for you all...I'm a CCNP, and I'm getting ready to take on the CCIE
written and LAB exam within the next few months. I have reviewed CCO's
blueprint on the exam and have mapped out a schedule on what to study to
make sure that I cover all the topics for the CCIE written. Also, I'd like
to hear about any GOOD lab scenarios that are out there that I can purchase
or download that will help me in my studies for the lab. I plan to attend
the Centennial Networking Lab in Raleigh, NC, for my hands-on practice, and
I'm looking for some good scenarios that will really sharpen my skills. I
have heard positive things about ccbootcamp.com's lab workbook, but it's
kinda pricey. What other workbooks are out there??? I heard about
certificationzone.com's work book, and solutionlabsare they any good?
Anybody with information that's willing to share would be helpful


Thanks,

Jason Clark, CCNP



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Re: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

CIT was by the far the easiest for me. I took the Foundation exam before 
that  and it was much more challenging.

Do you know about my CIT flash cards, just for fun? The URL is:

http://www.priscilla.com/cit/toc.html

Good luck. I think you will pass.

Priscilla

At 11:46 AM 2/8/02, Joshua Barnes wrote:
I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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Re: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

No, it's not possible. Cisco programmers just got a bit lazy and didn't 
remove that line from the show int serial output, which is based on the 
show int ethernet output.

Priscilla

At 10:45 PM 2/7/02, somera cecilia wrote:
Folks, I've been searching CCO but cannot find answers to this. Is it
possible to get collissions in serial lines? If there are, what could cause
this?


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RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]

2002-02-08 Thread Sean Knox

Yes, this applies to ethernet as well. Andy's suggestion-- to tftp the file
elsewhere, edit out any mentions of subinterfaces, then tftp the edited file
back-- worked like a charm.

- Sean

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Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


does the same apply to ethernet?

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Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


After you remove the subif and do a write mem does the startup-config
still shows the subif?  If it does, I would tftp the config to a file, edit
the file and tftp it back to the router and reload.

Just a guess.

-Original Message-
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Sean Knox
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


The router has been rebooted multiple, but the subif's persist.

- Sean

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Deleting Subinterfaces. [7:34802]


In general, I believe that when you delete a subinterface (at least on
serial lines) the subinterface won't go away until you reboot the router.

HTH,
Mike W.




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Re: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

If they pass each other, that's the opposite of a collision.

Priscilla

At 09:19 AM 2/8/02, Eric Mwambaji wrote:
Theoretically, it is impossible to get collisions on a
serial line. LAN bus architecture experiences
collisions because two devices can send frames to the
bus at the exact same time. Serial interfaces transmit
on a frequency if you will. This means that the frames
will pass each other even when sent at the same time.

Eric
CCNP

--- somera cecilia  wrote:
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  answers to this. Is it
  possible to get collissions in serial lines? If
  there are, what could cause
  this?
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IPsec Info [7:34881]

2002-02-08 Thread Simon Yang (ITeX)

Can someone please provide some good infon/website/books for IPsec?

Thanks a lot




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RE: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34756]

2002-02-08 Thread Sean Knox

I'm not sure when Cisco will incorporate AES, but it is already used in SSH2
and other products (can't think of any others of the top of my head). In
fact, my company incorporates in AES into a client-server solution we offer.
I've only read and heard good things about AES.

- Sean

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Subject: RE: 3DES [7:34756] AES? [7:34863]


FIPS197 was declared as the new AES in November, 2001. The standard will be
in effect in May, 2002. When do we see it in actual products... not too
sure.

http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/fips/fips197/fips-197.pdf




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RE: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Make sure you have disabled KEEPALIVE on both routers.

For more info - look here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback.html

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Mixa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]


hello,

I have a question:

I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an error
message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.

Thanks,

Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
  Hardware is HD64570
  Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
  LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
  Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters 1d02h
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
 Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer




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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

The CIT exam was the one I felt best prepared for, but passed with a lower
score that any of the others. I felt that the questions were worded very
badly compared to the other exams, and I was asked questions about specific
details that I did not recall having read in any of my books. 

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Joshua Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CIT Test [7:34856]


I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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RE: p-t-p serial w/ diff subnet address al points [7:34741]

2002-02-08 Thread Michael Williams

I have seen the same thing.  However, I've only seen it when the P-To-P link
is setup using MultilinkPPP.  We tried many times to configure a Multilink
PPP point-to-point pipe (usually 2 or 3 T1s bonded together) with IPs in the
same /30 subnet and could not get things to work.  But as soon as we put IPs
in different subnets on either end, it worked fine.

Still don't know why

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RE: suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

You need to press CTRL-SHIFT 6 and then X.

Hth,

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Does anyone have another method of suspending sessions when reverse
telnetting from access servers or into modems?  ctrl shift 6 never works for
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RE: suspending sessions in IOS [7:34848]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

That's good, because the one you were using would probably not do the BREAK
to ROMMON during startup.

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Forget it.  I tried a different terminal emulation program it works better.
The other one must not be sending the escape sequence correctly.
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Re: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Mixa

Thanks all. That's interesting... now i remember that i printed out that
article (don't know where it is) that Jensen put in for me. Thanks all. I'll
give it a try.

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 If you only have 2 routers, then you need to disable keepalives on both
 sides - #no keepalive.
 One side has to provided the clocking, the DCE side with # clock rate
64000
 Encap has to be frame-relay, PPP won't work as this is a frame circuit not
a
 point-to-point.
 Then do a #frame-relay map ip   on both sides.
 This will work.
 Regards.



 From: Mixa
 Reply-To: Mixa
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Need Cisco guru help [7:34864]
 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:42:27 -0500
 
 hello,
 
 I have a question:
 
 I'm setting up a simulation lab for my CCNA. I have 2 routers, Cisco2501,
 2503. I'm setting up frame-relay on both of the serial one but for some
 reason, the 2 routers don't talk. I tried to encap ppp but here is an
error
 message. I know i need a DTE and a DCE for frame to work.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Serial1 is up, line protocol is down
Hardware is HD64570
Internet address is 200.0.0.2/24
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
   reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
LMI enq sent  9488, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
LMI enq recvd 14232, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface
broadcasts
 0
Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:08, output hang never
Last clearing of show interface counters 1d02h
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
Queueing strategy: weighted fair
Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
   Conversations  0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
   Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
   Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
   14232 packets input, 186598 bytes, 0 no buffer
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RE: p-t-p serial w/ diff subnet address al points [7:34741]

2002-02-08 Thread Scott Nawalaniec

Mike,

What kind of routers and IOS where you trying to use to bond the T1s
together? I am about to try it with two PTP t1s on a 2650.

Please let me know..

Scott
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I have seen the same thing.  However, I've only seen it when the P-To-P link
is setup using MultilinkPPP.  We tried many times to configure a Multilink
PPP point-to-point pipe (usually 2 or 3 T1s bonded together) with IPs in the
same /30 subnet and could not get things to work.  But as soon as we put IPs
in different subnets on either end, it worked fine.

Still don't know why

Mike W.




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RE: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Joshua Barnes

Already started on them, KEEP THAT SITE UP! Thanks,

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It sounds to me like everyone agree to it being either the easiest or
hardest - so it probably won't help answering Joshua's answer very well.

And Joshua, I can strongly recommend Priscilla's flash cards - they
helped
me pass the test; Thanks again for that Priscilla.

Good luck on your exam, and have a great weekend,

Ole

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CIT was by the far the easiest for me. I took the Foundation exam before

that  and it was much more challenging.

Do you know about my CIT flash cards, just for fun? The URL is:

http://www.priscilla.com/cit/toc.html

Good luck. I think you will pass.

Priscilla

At 11:46 AM 2/8/02, Joshua Barnes wrote:
I know that folks have asked about this test, but I am taking it
Thursday,
I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest
test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think
that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate
the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.
Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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Re: IPsec Info [7:34881]

2002-02-08 Thread dre

Here's a list.

http://www.counterpane.com/ipsec.html
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/sec96/full_papers/bel
lovin/bellovin.txt
http://www.research.att.com/~smb/talks/
http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/1999-12/features/harmful.html
http://www.isr.umd.edu/TechReports/ISR/1999/MS_99-14/MS_99-14.phtml
http://www.isoc.org/ndss99/proceedings/
http://napalm.firest0rm.org/issue9.txt
http://www.ima.umn.edu/~pliam/xauth/
http://sec.femto.org/wetice-2001/papers/radia-paper.pdf
http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipsec-improveike-00.txt
ftp://ftp.tis.com/pub/lists/ipsec and ftp://ftp.ans.net/pub/archive/ipsec

Oh and my personal favorite: http://ikecrack.sourceforge.net/

-dre

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RE: IPsec Info [7:34881]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Hth,

Ole

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RE: Average afterwork time Tech learning commitmen [7:34634]

2002-02-08 Thread Hartnell, George

Here's a little tidbit from the Washington Post about battle:

[Cy (Zulu, 1964)] Endfield also finds a quality missing from all too many
battle sequences in millions of movies: that is, the utter physical labor of
battle. It's very hard work to fight, which is why the young are so much
better at it. His troopers emerge like footballers after an overtime --
exhausted men, drained and emotionally flattened, smeared with dirt and
blood, beyond the need to do anything but sleep for days.

Sounds a lot like those 'boot camps' I hear about, and some sustained
training efforts mentioned here in the group.  Not to mention the day after
those CCIE lab tests.

Best, G.
VP OGC




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Need Cisco expert help [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread Mixa

Thanks for all your help with my previous post. I'll give it a try tonight.
Here is my current situation. I have 3 networks:
192.168.0.0
100.0.0.0
10.0.0.0

Network 1: 192.168.0.0

I have 2 Cisco 2500s, two different win2k domains. i'll like to simulate a
real network but things are not working. Here is my configuration:

I have a DSL router/switch 4 ports with a default IP 192.168.0.1 and NAT.
This segment is 192.168.0.0. In this segment, i have one WIN2K server call
WIN2KAD1 this server can see the internet because it's IP address is
192.168.0.2. I put static IP for it with local DNS 127.0.0.1. In this
segment, i have one Cisco router 2501 connected to the DSL router/switch and
it's Ethernet E0 has an IP address of 192.168.0.3. It has IOS 12.5. This is
my 192.168.0.0 network.

Network 2: 100.0.0.0
The 2 routers connected to each other using a back-to-back cable. No frame
relay this time. This network is 100.0.0.1 connected to the serial S1 of the
first Cisco2051. The second Cisco2503 serial1 is connected to the first one
using back-toback cable and its IP address is 100.0.0.2.


Network 3: 10.0.0.0

On the E0 side of the Cisco 2503, its IP address is 10.0.0.1 and i connected
a crossover cable to my other Win2k box and this box has an IP 10.0.0.2.

What I did?

I used route add on the first Win2k box so that 192.168.0.0 can talk to
100.0.0.0 and 10.0.0.0
I configured static route on both of the cisco router so that network
10.0.0.0 can talk to 192.168.0.0 and 100.0.0.0

All communications are working. I can ping everything from every subnet. But
I CAN NOT SURF the web from my 10.0.0.0 network. What am i doing wrong here?

I know this is a long post but please give it a shoot.

Thanks,
Mixa




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Re: collissions on serial line? [7:34816]

2002-02-08 Thread oz oleg

Phil,

   I belive that the CS in CSMA stands for Carrier Sense.

 Oleg Oz...
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RE: collissions and the bigger picture [7:34896]

2002-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 07:24 AM 2/8/02, Surya Prakash wrote:
Right. More light. Collisions are possible only on technologies like
CSMACD, CSMACA TR. In these technologies there is a contest for
bandwidth.

Your answer is of course right, that serial links don't encounter 
collisions. Collisions are an issue on networks where multiple devices 
contend for the shared transmission medium.

I don't know what you mean by CSMACA TR (hopefully not Token Ring which 
uses token passing, not CSMA! ;-) Multiple stations don't send at once in 
Token Ring. Instead the token passes from station to station with a bit 
that says whether the token is free or not, which means a station can send.

But a couple good examples of CSMA/CA are Local Talk (remember that?) and 
802.11B wireless. Despite the A standing for Avoidance in CSMA/CA, 
collisions do occur in those technologies.

Media Access Control on 802.11B wireless networks is quite interesting. 
 From what I understand, stations sense and then wait a random amount of 
time before sending. When sensing, a station can take into account how long 
another station will be sending because the station includes a duration 
value. Check this AiroPeek output. See the Duration field? Cool, eh?

802.11 MAC Header
Version:  0
Type: %00
Subtype:  %0101
To DS:0
From DS:  0
More Frag.:   0
Retry:0
Power Mgmt:   0
More Data:0
WEP:  0
Order:0
Duration: 218  Microseconds
Destination:  00:A0:F8:9B:B9:AA  Client B9:AA
Source:   00:A0:F8:8B:20:1F  AP 20:1F
BSSID:00:A0:F8:8B:20:1F  AP 20:1F
Seq. Number:  3095
Frag. Number: 0

802.11B differs from other CSMA methods in a few other ways also. There's 
no collision detection. Instead, a station ACKs (at the data-link layer). 
That way the sender knows that its frame got there and no collision occurred.

802.11B also provides a fragmentation service. This has to do with 
collision avoidance (not MTU as in the IP world). The idea is to reduce 
collisions by making sure that nobody hogs the medium for too long. If a 
station were to hog the medium for a long time, the odds of two or more 
stations trying to send as soon as the original one finished increase, as 
do the collisions.

The fragmentation threshold (a configurable parameter in an AP and wireless 
NIC) can be lowered, causing large Ethernet packets to be broken into 
smaller groups of 802.11 packets. Because each packet is smaller, it may 
allow other stations to jump in to the wireless medium and take turns 
without as many collisions. The fragmentation threshold defines the 
threshold above which the MAC layer will fragment packets into a series of 
smaller packets.

802.11B also supports a slightly different method for avoiding collisions, 
which is through the use of RTS and CTS packets. (That's what LocalTalk 
does too, by the way).


Someone else might know about the Media Access Control used on cable 
modems. It may be CSMA also?


This has nothing to do with the phantom collision report on Cisco serial 
interfaces (which is just one of those silly gotchas on Cisco tests). On a 
serial link, each side of the point-to-point link has its own dedicated 
transmit circuit. Sharing isn't happening, so collisions don't happen either.

Priscilla





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A serial line is a point-to-point link. Collisions are only possible on
a shared medium, such as ethernet.

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Folks, I've been searching CCO but cannot find answers to this. Is it
possible to get collissions in serial lines? If there are, what could
cause this?
_




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RE: IPsec Info [7:34881]

2002-02-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

Begin padding to keep the URLs from being deleted.
CCO is always a good place to start:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/index.shtml
Down on this page is a link to a good tutorial.

Check out www.ietf.org for relevant RFCs. I'm looking at 3193.

Cisco Press has a book on VPNs. Adam Quiggle has also authored one.
Try a search on www.google.com

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 Can someone please provide some good infon/website/books for IPsec?
 
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RE: IPsec Info [7:34881]

2002-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Let's try again, this time with the URL away from line 1.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/#ipsec

Hth,

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Hth,

Ole

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RE: Need Cisco expert help [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread Vincent Miller

Is 100.0.0.0 registered to you ?
where is the connection to the internet, and how are you translating 
addresses ?


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Re: Need Cisco expert help [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am taking a stab here trying to visualize what you are talking about. But
if you are not doing any routing on the routers outside of statics do you
have ip default-gateway set? Yes when you are not doing routing like eigrp
and ospf you use the default gateway command.
Maybe this will help.


   

   
Mixa
   
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respond
to
   
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Thanks for all your help with my previous post. I'll give it a try tonight.
Here is my current situation. I have 3 networks:
192.168.0.0
100.0.0.0
10.0.0.0

Network 1: 192.168.0.0

I have 2 Cisco 2500s, two different win2k domains. i'll like to simulate a
real network but things are not working. Here is my configuration:

I have a DSL router/switch 4 ports with a default IP 192.168.0.1 and NAT.
This segment is 192.168.0.0. In this segment, i have one WIN2K server call
WIN2KAD1 this server can see the internet because it's IP address is
192.168.0.2. I put static IP for it with local DNS 127.0.0.1. In this
segment, i have one Cisco router 2501 connected to the DSL router/switch
and
it's Ethernet E0 has an IP address of 192.168.0.3. It has IOS 12.5. This is
my 192.168.0.0 network.

Network 2: 100.0.0.0
The 2 routers connected to each other using a back-to-back cable. No frame
relay this time. This network is 100.0.0.1 connected to the serial S1 of
the
first Cisco2051. The second Cisco2503 serial1 is connected to the first one
using back-toback cable and its IP address is 100.0.0.2.


Network 3: 10.0.0.0

On the E0 side of the Cisco 2503, its IP address is 10.0.0.1 and i
connected
a crossover cable to my other Win2k box and this box has an IP 10.0.0.2.

What I did?

I used route add on the first Win2k box so that 192.168.0.0 can talk to
100.0.0.0 and 10.0.0.0
I configured static route on both of the cisco router so that network
10.0.0.0 can talk to 192.168.0.0 and 100.0.0.0

All communications are working. I can ping everything from every subnet.
But
I CAN NOT SURF the web from my 10.0.0.0 network. What am i doing wrong
here?

I know this is a long post but please give it a shoot.

Thanks,
Mixa




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Re: Need Cisco expert help [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread Mixa

The 100.0.0.0 is just a network between the Serial interfaces of the 2
routers. I put put the number in. It's not register. Everything is behind
the DSL/router/firewall using NAT. The connection to the internet is my DSL
router/firewall.


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 where is the connection to the internet, and how are you translating
 addresses ?




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Re: Need Cisco expert help [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread Mixa

So which commands is correct then?
Cisco2503(config)#ip default-gateway 0.0.0.0

This is my router on the 10.0.0.0 network


Or

Cisco2503(config)#ip default-gateway 192.168.0.0

(DSLRouterNAT)192.168.0.1--192.168.0.2(Cisco2501)100.0.0.1--
-100.0.0.2(Cisco2503)---10.0.0.1

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 I am taking a stab here trying to visualize what you are talking about.
But
 if you are not doing any routing on the routers outside of statics do you
 have ip default-gateway set? Yes when you are not doing routing like eigrp
 and ospf you use the default gateway command.
 Maybe this will help.




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 02:54
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 Please
 respond
 to

 Mixa






 Thanks for all your help with my previous post. I'll give it a try
tonight.
 Here is my current situation. I have 3 networks:
 192.168.0.0
 100.0.0.0
 10.0.0.0

 Network 1: 192.168.0.0

 I have 2 Cisco 2500s, two different win2k domains. i'll like to simulate a
 real network but things are not working. Here is my configuration:

 I have a DSL router/switch 4 ports with a default IP 192.168.0.1 and NAT.
 This segment is 192.168.0.0. In this segment, i have one WIN2K server call
 WIN2KAD1 this server can see the internet because it's IP address is
 192.168.0.2. I put static IP for it with local DNS 127.0.0.1. In this
 segment, i have one Cisco router 2501 connected to the DSL router/switch
 and
 it's Ethernet E0 has an IP address of 192.168.0.3. It has IOS 12.5. This
is
 my 192.168.0.0 network.

 Network 2: 100.0.0.0
 The 2 routers connected to each other using a back-to-back cable. No frame
 relay this time. This network is 100.0.0.1 connected to the serial S1 of
 the
 first Cisco2051. The second Cisco2503 serial1 is connected to the first
one
 using back-toback cable and its IP address is 100.0.0.2.


 Network 3: 10.0.0.0

 On the E0 side of the Cisco 2503, its IP address is 10.0.0.1 and i
 connected
 a crossover cable to my other Win2k box and this box has an IP 10.0.0.2.

 What I did?

 I used route add on the first Win2k box so that 192.168.0.0 can talk to
 100.0.0.0 and 10.0.0.0
 I configured static route on both of the cisco router so that network
 10.0.0.0 can talk to 192.168.0.0 and 100.0.0.0

 All communications are working. I can ping everything from every subnet.
 But
 I CAN NOT SURF the web from my 10.0.0.0 network. What am i doing wrong
 here?

 I know this is a long post but please give it a shoot.

 Thanks,
 Mixa




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RE: VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread Rik Guyler

I considered those for my lab as well but Brad Ellis mentioned that they
won't run Enterprise IOS, which limits their value in your lab.

Rik

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try a 1750 or 1751.
Woods, Randall, SOBUS  wrote in message
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 Hi all,
 I was wondering if anyone could give me some recommendations of 
 what equipment would be best suited for adding VOIP to my home lab. I 
 am considering getting the 2600 series but wanted some advise on if there
was
 anything smaller or better suited for the job.   Thanks for the help.

 Woody




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Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread Simon Yang (ITeX)

There is one certification called CISSP (certified information system
security professional). Does anybody family with it?  How's it value?
Any comment/suggestion?

Thanks

-Simon
CCNP, MCSE




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OK, here we go... [7:34894]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

First, you didn't mention what kind of DSL router it is.  (BTW, most DSL
routers comercially marketed are actually ethernet-to-ethernet routers. 
Calling them DSL routers is a misnomer.)  Every NAT implementation I've
worked with requires explicit ranges set up for NAT.  There's a good chance
that your NAT router is configured to only NAT addresses in the 192.168.0.X
range.

If you'd like a more in depth discussion of what NAT is and how it works,
I'd be happy to write a quick one up.

Second, your Windows box is using it's loopback address for DNS.  This is
only a correct configuration if your Windows box is a DNS server and is
receiving zone transfers from external DNS servers.  I doubt that this is
the case, so I would assume that DNS queries are failing.  Wait... I suppose
if you're running DNS on that box and have a secondary lookup to a public
DNS, it should work.  Better solution is to use the DNS server your ISP
provides.

Thirdly, while your Windows box knows how to get to the 10.0.0.0 network,
due to your route add commands (BTW, that is not a reliable solution. 
Don't ask hosts (like a server) to make routing decisions), your NAT router
does not know how to get there, or even that it exists.  So even if the NAT
router would translate 10.0.0.0 into public addresses, the router would not
be able to send any packets back.  For this you need a static route in the
NAT router for the 10.0.0.0 network.  This solution also removes the need
for the route add commands.


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RE: Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread Sean Knox

www.securityfocus.com has a mailing list for the CISSP certification if i
recall correctly.

Sean

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There is one certification called CISSP (certified information system
security professional). Does anybody family with it?  How's it value?
Any comment/suggestion?

Thanks

-Simon
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No can do [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

You cannot simulate frame-relay with 2 routers.  A minimuim of three are
required.  One router must serve as the frame-relay switch.  This router
needs to be connected to both other routers via back-to-back serial
connections.

In many ways, frame-relay is analogous to IP.  It's just one more set
removed.  In frame-relay, a router will segment data into frame-relay
packets and address them using the DLCI.  These packets are sent to the
frame-relay provider.  The frame-relay provider's equipment (referred to as
a switch) passes the packet to another switch based on the DLCI.  I don't
really know how many switches a common frame-relay packet goes through, but
it doesn't really matter, because it will come out in the right place on the
other router.  The other router accepts the data, reassembles it into the
original form and routes it accordingly.

The trick is, frame-relay was never meant to operate back-to-back. 
Therefore, each router needs to be directly connected to a frame-relay
switch.  I don't have a link to help in that configuration, but if you get a
third router, I can dig something up.


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RE: Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

I think that it more for Security Managers. Go to google and do a search on
it. Also go to www.sans.org and check out their certifications - more
technical. Get on their mailing list. They have training.

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Yang (ITeX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Security certification [7:34904]
 
 
 There is one certification called CISSP (certified information system
 security professional). Does anybody family with it?  How's it value?
 Any comment/suggestion?
 
 Thanks
 
 -Simon
 CCNP, MCSE




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RE: CCIE-lab scenarios [7:34870]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

One point I'd like to bring up is do you work for a Cisco partner.  If you
do, once you pass the written, alot of resources become available to you. 
You can get access to some practice labs, limited access to cisco personal
for help, even (and this depends on you're partner status) access to cisco
labs.  Just check and see if any of these options are open to you.


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RE: collissions and the bigger picture [7:34896]

2002-02-08 Thread Annlee Hines

The fragmentation process sounds much like ATM and the head-of-the-line
blocking problem the cell size was intended to prevent.


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WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread s vermill

All,

Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on high
speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be unnecessary on
links greater than 2 Mbps.

I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers.  The
config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does not
seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally got
them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but the
congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.

I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be detrimental? 
As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.

Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I have
never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no debug
or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this environment.

Many thanks,

Scott



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RE: VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

Ideal would be VG200/248 or a NM-V or NM-2V plus VICs for your 2600. 
Neither of these are cheap, though.  However, if you're just looking for
voice gateways to add to your network, 1750's actually work quite well. 
They do not have some of the higher-end features that a 2600 does, but it
does what it does pretty well.


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Re: CIT Test [7:34856]

2002-02-08 Thread Darren Crawford

Easy test for someone who has hands experience.  I also used Ole's CITCMD
program.  Download it at:

http://www.RouterChief.com/dowload/citcmd.exe

Hopes this helps,

Darren


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I would like to know of the people who thought that it was the hardest test,
did you also feel it was equally hard to study for?

I am studying through the book and BOSON, and quite honestly I think that
this part comes natural to me.  I certainly don't want to underestimate the
test. ( I don't think I will) but I would like some feedback on this.  Let
me know if you guys remember how you felt.

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RE: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

I don't *know* that it would be detrimental, but I wouldn't be suprised. 
You're asking the router's processor to do advanced screening on ALOT of
packets.  It could easily overload the process utilization.  First thing I'd
do is look at that.


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RE: show ip route longer-prefixes [7:34834]

2002-02-08 Thread Chris Charlebois

Sounds like more of an interface issue than a performance one.  One of the
developers at Cisco (or more likely some company that Cisco bought) figured
that a sh ip route x.x.x.x comand should not take into account a default
route, so the user is not potentially confused, thinking there is a specific
route to that address.  Then another developer added the longer-prefixes
arguement and thought that the default route should be taken into account. 
Just accept it and move on.


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Re: No can do [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Curtis Phillips

You can connect two routers back-back  using frame relay encaps. It must be
done on subinterfaces..
- Original Message -
From: Chris Charlebois 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: No can do [7:34864]


 You cannot simulate frame-relay with 2 routers.  A minimuim of three are
 required.  One router must serve as the frame-relay switch.  This router
 needs to be connected to both other routers via back-to-back serial
 connections.

 In many ways, frame-relay is analogous to IP.  It's just one more set
 removed.  In frame-relay, a router will segment data into frame-relay
 packets and address them using the DLCI.  These packets are sent to the
 frame-relay provider.  The frame-relay provider's equipment (referred to
as
 a switch) passes the packet to another switch based on the DLCI.  I don't
 really know how many switches a common frame-relay packet goes through,
but
 it doesn't really matter, because it will come out in the right place on
the
 other router.  The other router accepts the data, reassembles it into the
 original form and routes it accordingly.

 The trick is, frame-relay was never meant to operate back-to-back.
 Therefore, each router needs to be directly connected to a frame-relay
 switch.  I don't have a link to help in that configuration, but if you get
a
 third router, I can dig something up.




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Re: No can do [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Your answer is logical, but not true for Cisco. Cisco lets you do 
back-to-back Frame Relay. I think they added it mostly to allows training 
classes to save on equipment costs!

If a person can afford to use a router in the middle as a switch, it really 
enables a better understanding of Frame Relay. When you configure the 
switch especially, light bulbs often go off. The back-to-back stuff, on the 
other hand, muddies one's understanding. But it should work. Just make one 
the DCE, add clocking, and the frame-relay switching command.

Priscilla

At 05:50 PM 2/8/02, Chris Charlebois wrote:
You cannot simulate frame-relay with 2 routers.  A minimuim of three are
required.  One router must serve as the frame-relay switch.  This router
needs to be connected to both other routers via back-to-back serial
connections.

In many ways, frame-relay is analogous to IP.  It's just one more set
removed.  In frame-relay, a router will segment data into frame-relay
packets and address them using the DLCI.  These packets are sent to the
frame-relay provider.  The frame-relay provider's equipment (referred to as
a switch) passes the packet to another switch based on the DLCI.  I don't
really know how many switches a common frame-relay packet goes through, but
it doesn't really matter, because it will come out in the right place on the
other router.  The other router accepts the data, reassembles it into the
original form and routes it accordingly.

The trick is, frame-relay was never meant to operate back-to-back.
Therefore, each router needs to be directly connected to a frame-relay
switch.  I don't have a link to help in that configuration, but if you get a
third router, I can dig something up.


Priscilla Oppenheimer
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Re: No can do [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Jonathan Mian

Oh yes you can...read
this:http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/frbacktoback.html

Extract from the link:

Introduction
This document is a sample configuration for setting up two Cisco routers
back-to-back using Frame Relay (FR) encapsulation. The routers are connected
using data communications equipment (DCE) and a data terminal equipment
(DTE) serial cable. Back-to-back setups are useful in test environments. The
simplest and preferred method for configuring back-to-back setups is
described in this document.
A FR switch or DCE device is used between FR routers to provide Local
Management Interface (LMI) status messages. Because there is no switch in a
back-to-back scenario, LMI processing is disabled on both routers.

You also can configure a back-to-back setup with one router providing LMI
status updates for the other. However,  such a configuration is necessary
only if the LMI debugging messages are to be checked in a back-to-back
setup. In this case, LMI processing is not disabled and one side functions
as a hybrid FR switch by responding to LMI status enq. For more details on
this configuration, please see Back-to-Back Frame Relay Hybrid Switching.

In the sample configuration, the router connected to the DCE cable must
provide clocking. Router1 provides the clock at 64 kbps (clock rate 64000).

Hardware and Software Versions
To implement this configuration, you need the following hardware and
software components:
Cisco IOSĀ® Software Release 10.0 and later that supports FR encapsulation. 
Two routers, each with an interface that supports FR encapsulation. 
Note: The information in this document was taken from an isolated lab
environment. Make sure you understand the potential impact of a command on
your network before you use it.
This configuration was developed and tested using the software and hardware
versions below.

Cisco IOS Software Release 12.1(2). 
Cisco 1604 routers.

All the best,
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comments on Cisco PIX CSPFA exam [7:34922]

2002-02-08 Thread mike johnson

Hi All,
I took the Cisco PIX CSPFA exam yesterday and I was
suprised to find out that my score is 970/1000.  I've
never worked with any type of firewalls let alone PIX
Firewall.  I read the CSPFA book and borrowed the 
materials from a friend of mine who went to global
knowledge training a few weeks earlier.  I am very 
disappointed with the exam.  I don't think anyone like

myself should be able to pass the exam that easily.  

I thought yesterday's test score was a fluke so this
morning I went and took the MCNS exam and I got a
score
of 960/1000.  I was completely shocked.  A few hours,
I
decide to sign up for the CCIE written exam. 
Amazingly
I passed with a score of 92/100  That is unbelievable.
To pass the exam for someone like myself really
de-value the prestige of Cisco Certification by some
bookworms like me.  Cisco, after all, should make the
exam a lot harder than the way it is now.

Anyone care to comment on this.

Mike Johnson

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RE: Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread Annlee Hines

It requires 3 years of experience in security work--provable experience. The
Common Body of Knowledge is extensive. I've seen a number of job ads that
look for the cert, though I cannot say that they really needed someone with
that level of knowledge.


CISSP Certification Examination #8211; Applicant Requirements 
CISSP Certification candidates must meet the following requirements prior to
taking the CISSP examination.


Subscribe to the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics. 
Have at least 3 years of cumulative work experience in one or more of the
ten test domains in information systems [IS] security. Valid experience
includes information systems security-related work performed as a
practitioner, auditor, consultant, vendor, investigator or instructor, or
that which requires IS security knowledge and involves direct application of
that knowledge.

http://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?page=43 

HTH

Annlee


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Re: VOIP for CCIE [7:34849]

2002-02-08 Thread Peter Whittle

Woody,

Why not take a look at the MC3810 if you put 64 Mb RAM into them, then
they will do VoIP. There are quite a number on ebay from time to time.

You can think of them as very similar to a 2610 + 2 x wic-1T in basic
functionality.  Similar cpu power to a 2610, 10 BaseT + 2 x serial ports
built in. Many come with the optional AVM6 voice module fitted. (An AVM6
takes up to 6 x APMs, Analogue Personality modules - fxs, fxo,  em
versions available) some have DVM - E1/T1 primary rate digital voice
modules fitted and many have mft E1/T1 (multiflex-trunk modules) fitted.
On the whole they seem to go for rather less than a 2610 + NM-1V + vic-
2fxs + 2 x Wic-1T.

If you get MC3810 + AVM6 + 2 x APM-fxs + mft-E1/T1 and have 64 Mb Ram
then they will do: VoFR, VoIP, VoATM and you can use a pair of them with
mft back to back to practice ATM pvcs at 2 Mb and all for less than a
pair of 2610s with voice!

They are used on the CVOICE course and are suggested as a cost effective
alternative in Solie's CCIE Practical Studies Vol1 though they are not
the actual routers on the lab syllabus. But, if this makes a significant
difference to you then you are probably not yet ready to sit the lab.

Peter

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Re: Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread John Kaberna

It's value is fairly high although it's still a written test.  It's fairly
well known and most security people that work in the government have it.  It
is based mainly on theory not practical hands-on so it's a guide start prior
to doing the more specialized vendor specific certs.

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RE: Security certification [7:34904]

2002-02-08 Thread Annlee Hines

It requires 3 years of experience in security work--provable experience. The
Common Body of Knowledge is extensive. I've seen a number of job ads that
look for the cert, though I cannot say that they really needed someone with
that level of knowledge.


CISSP Certification Examination #8211; Applicant Requirements 
CISSP Certification candidates must meet the following requirements prior to
taking the CISSP examination.


Subscribe to the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics. 
Have at least 3 years of cumulative work experience in one or more of the
ten test domains in information systems [IS] security. Valid experience
includes information systems security-related work performed as a
practitioner, auditor, consultant, vendor, investigator or instructor, or
that which requires IS security knowledge and involves direct application of
that knowledge.

http://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?page=43 

HTH

Annlee


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Re: WFQ On High Speed Link [7:34913]

2002-02-08 Thread John Neiberger

I've heard that WFQ at this speed is detrimental due to the time it
takes to process the queues.  That ends up leading to a longer delay
than any congestion would cause.

John

 s vermill  2/8/02 4:04:20 PM 
All,

Would you be so kind as to share your thoughts/experience with WFQ on
high
speed links?  I know that Cisco generally considers it to be
unnecessary on
links greater than 2 Mbps.

I have a client with a 16 Mbps HSSI connection between 3640 routers. 
The
config has been in place for a long time.  However, the circuit does
not
seem to support the throughput that they should be getting.  I finally
got
them to share a copy of the config file.  Not only is WFQ enabled, but
the
congestive discard value was left at a default 64 messages.

I am wondering if this is just unnecessary or if it is/can be
detrimental? 
As I said, there are indications that there are throughput issues.

Please note that I am just looking for comments.  Unfortunately, I
have
never had my hands on any of their equipment (yet).  Thus, I have no
debug
or even visual observations to offer.  All of my information is third
party.  Just trying to understand the wisdom of using WFQ in this
environment.

Many thanks,

Scott




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Re: comments on Cisco PIX CSPFA exam [7:34922]

2002-02-08 Thread nettable_walker

2/8/2002   6:20pm  Friday

I think you should go take the CCIE lab.
It's a lot easier now --- only one day instead of two.  You'll fly right
thru it !

Richard

//

mike johnson  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi All,
 I took the Cisco PIX CSPFA exam yesterday and I was
 suprised to find out that my score is 970/1000.  I've
 never worked with any type of firewalls let alone PIX
 Firewall.  I read the CSPFA book and borrowed the
 materials from a friend of mine who went to global
 knowledge training a few weeks earlier.  I am very
 disappointed with the exam.  I don't think anyone like

 myself should be able to pass the exam that easily.

 I thought yesterday's test score was a fluke so this
 morning I went and took the MCNS exam and I got a
 score
 of 960/1000.  I was completely shocked.  A few hours,
 I
 decide to sign up for the CCIE written exam.
 Amazingly
 I passed with a score of 92/100  That is unbelievable.
 To pass the exam for someone like myself really
 de-value the prestige of Cisco Certification by some
 bookworms like me.  Cisco, after all, should make the
 exam a lot harder than the way it is now.

 Anyone care to comment on this.

 Mike Johnson

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OT: Cisco exams are too easy??? [7:34923]

2002-02-08 Thread mike johnson

Hi All,
I took the Cisco PIX CSPFA exam yesterday and I was
suprised to find out that my score is 970/1000.  I've
never worked with any type of firewalls let alone PIX
Firewall.  I read the CSPFA book and borrowed the 
materials from a friend of mine who went to global
knowledge training a few weeks earlier.  I am very 
disappointed with the exam.  I don't think anyone like

myself should be able to pass the exam that easily.  

I thought yesterday's test score was a fluke so this
morning I went and took the MCNS exam and I got a
score
of 960/1000.  I was completely shocked.  A few hours,
I
decide to sign up for the CCIE written exam. 
Amazingly
I passed with a score of 92/100  That is unbelievable.
To pass the exam for someone like myself really
de-value the prestige of Cisco Certification by some
bookworms like me.  Cisco, after all, should make the
exam a lot harder than the way it is now.

Anyone care to comment on this.

Mike Johnson


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Re: No can do [7:34864]

2002-02-08 Thread Cisco Nuts

Can even do direct...just on the intf. itself but also can do on the subif 
as you mentioned :-)



From: Curtis Phillips 
Reply-To: Curtis Phillips 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No can do [7:34864]
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:18:03 -0500

You can connect two routers back-back  using frame relay encaps. It must be
done on subinterfaces..
- Original Message -
From: Chris Charlebois
To:
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: No can do [7:34864]


  You cannot simulate frame-relay with 2 routers.  A minimuim of three are
  required.  One router must serve as the frame-relay switch.  This router
  needs to be connected to both other routers via back-to-back serial
  connections.
 
  In many ways, frame-relay is analogous to IP.  It's just one more set
  removed.  In frame-relay, a router will segment data into frame-relay
  packets and address them using the DLCI.  These packets are sent to the
  frame-relay provider.  The frame-relay provider's equipment (referred to
as
  a switch) passes the packet to another switch based on the DLCI.  I 
don't
  really know how many switches a common frame-relay packet goes through,
but
  it doesn't really matter, because it will come out in the right place on
the
  other router.  The other router accepts the data, reassembles it into 
the
  original form and routes it accordingly.
 
  The trick is, frame-relay was never meant to operate back-to-back.
  Therefore, each router needs to be directly connected to a frame-relay
  switch.  I don't have a link to help in that configuration, but if you 
get
a
  third router, I can dig something up.
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Re: comments on Cisco PIX CSPFA exam [7:34922]

2002-02-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

as someone wiser than I once put it, life's a bitch, and then you die.

sorry to hear your bad luck. another time

Chuck


mike johnson  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi All,
 I took the Cisco PIX CSPFA exam yesterday and I was
 suprised to find out that my score is 970/1000.  I've
 never worked with any type of firewalls let alone PIX
 Firewall.  I read the CSPFA book and borrowed the
 materials from a friend of mine who went to global
 knowledge training a few weeks earlier.  I am very
 disappointed with the exam.  I don't think anyone like

 myself should be able to pass the exam that easily.

 I thought yesterday's test score was a fluke so this
 morning I went and took the MCNS exam and I got a
 score
 of 960/1000.  I was completely shocked.  A few hours,
 I
 decide to sign up for the CCIE written exam.
 Amazingly
 I passed with a score of 92/100  That is unbelievable.
 To pass the exam for someone like myself really
 de-value the prestige of Cisco Certification by some
 bookworms like me.  Cisco, after all, should make the
 exam a lot harder than the way it is now.

 Anyone care to comment on this.

 Mike Johnson

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