Re: PIX and Trunk [7:62383]

2003-02-04 Thread Peter Walker
Paulo

Current releases of the PIX OS do not support vlan trunking. I believe I 
saw something on this list a short while back regarding the 6.3 Beta 
version which does support trunking, but you will have to verify that.

Regards

Peter

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> Hi all,
>
> Does PIX support VLAN trunk?
>
> Paulo
>
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Re: specific MIBs on Cat 6509 [7:62370]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:
>  In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:
>  You'll find what's supported at .
>  Walk around in ../oid and ../v2 to get a look at the schemas and the oids.

Uh, guess the URL got lost somewhere after sending the mail. ;-) Try
ftp.cisco.com, the path is /pub/mibs.



// kaj




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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:

>  I have been using EIGRP for our routing protocol for the last couple
years,
>  which is prettly great.  The controversal of selecting the routing
protocol
>  came up again recently.  I would like to have your opinion on EIGRP vs.
>  OSPF, which one is refered?  What's the weakness and advantage?  Thanks!

- OSPF is pretty much supported by all vendors nowadays.
- OSPF calculates a tree from the point of origin using Dijkstra's
  algorithm (SPF)
- OSPF is a link-state protocol, you get really fast convergence by tuning
  the timers
- All area 0 (ie. backbone) routers have a complete overview of the
  network
- Easy to deploy
- By default link-cost is calculated from the bandwidth of the link
- Only for IP
- Filtering on ABR/ASBR only, between areas preferably

- EIGRP, although the spec is available, only you usually find it on only
  brand Ci$co routers.
- EIGRP calculates it's view of the world using DUAL (Diffusing update
  algorithm)
- Router stores its neighbors routing tables and queries its neighbors if
  no specific route is found
- It's pretty much a distance-vector protocol with some features borrowed
  from link-state ones.
- Pretty easy to deploy
- Is bugwards compatible with IGRP
- Works with IP and IPX
- Easy to filter and aggregate, on any interface (ie you can do "areas"
  quite easily)
- Takes into account path reliability, loading, MTU, lowest bandwidth
  between destinations, total delay when calculating the best way of
  getting to the destination.
- Enterprise people tend to prefer EIGRP over others because it's easy to
  do ISDN backup with it


Most people would nowadays choose OSPF because their CIOs might want to
keep a second vendor option on the table. Service providers would probably
choose IS-IS (my favorite) or OSPF.



// kaj




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Book for CSPFA & MCNS [7:62431]

2003-02-04 Thread Gunjan Mathur
Hi,
Can someone tell me the name of book through which I
can study for CSPFA & MCNS.
Good web links are also appriciated...


TIA

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Best practice to add modem to 2503 [7:62432]

2003-02-04 Thread Peter P
I have a 2503 router to which I want to attach a modem. At rear panel I have
the choice of 2 serial ports (Synchronous) using DB60 connectors - or using
the Auxilary port via an RJ45 connection. Because the 2 serial ports are
Synchronous (Not Asychronous) should I use the AUX port for attaching my
modem ? (I am basically wanting to play with reverse telnet and some remote
access stuff).

I think the AUX port is nomally used for remote out of band dial up - any
comments appreciated - thanks! Pete


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RE: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread Peter P
EIGRP easy to configure & optimised for Cisco kit. Use OSPF if mixed vendor
environment and if network is large scale. Requires good configurqtion
knowledge as much less plug and play than EIGRP. Also OSPF is true link
state so faster convergence and better scalability. EIGRP is enhanced
distance vector.  Both carry subnet data and allow complex subnetting, route
summarisation but OSPF harder to configure.


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preparation tips for ccie lab [7:62434]

2003-02-04 Thread Paul Dong So
Hi all,

Passed the written and am prepraring to crack the hardest part. I
appreciate any tips and recommendation on where to start(equipment is
not my concern at this point) and what is the best study strategy in
terms of time allocation, focusing areas, good study materials, etc.

Thanks in advance

Paul




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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread Juntao
OSPF
no hop limit
link state
have 2 know how to configure it
bandwith is the metric
supportes areas therefore scalls well
supports area and net summarization
supportes cidr, vlsm
fast to converge
supports demand cicuits
standard based
djikstra is the algo
used in large environments

EIGRP
advanced distance vector ( the way messages are sent, have only some
similarity to link state protos)
default hop limit 100 can be up to 255
supports IPX and Appletalk
by default is faster to converge than OSPF, RIP1and2 and IGRP
supports unequall path load balancing
redistribute routes from IGRP with the same AS#.
redistribute routes from RTMP
redistribute routes from RIP IPX
dual is the algo
used mostely in cisco environments
supports CIDR VLSM
uses a reliable transport mechaanism
very easy to configure but u have to know the default behavior


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> EIGRP easy to configure & optimised for Cisco kit. Use OSPF if mixed
vendor
> environment and if network is large scale. Requires good configurqtion
> knowledge as much less plug and play than EIGRP. Also OSPF is true link
> state so faster convergence and better scalability. EIGRP is enhanced
> distance vector.  Both carry subnet data and allow complex subnetting,
route
> summarisation but OSPF harder to configure.




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Re: Frame Relay...Serial Int Flapping [7:62411]

2003-02-04 Thread Juntao
look at the carrier transitions
do a debug frame-relay lmi

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> Hi all,
>
> I have a Frame Relay circuit to an adtran ts120 and then v.35 to a
> cisco1721. My serial interface keeps flapping
>
> 01:11:40: Serial0: attempting to restart
> 01:11:40: PowerQUICC(0/0): DCD is up.
>
> Line protocol changes to up...then down...and stays down. But debug output
> shows the above.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> interface Serial0
>  bandwidth 512
>  ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
>  encapsulation frame-relay IETF
>  frame-relay map ip x.x.x.x 114 IETF
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
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Re: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You really should read all the BluePrint.

I would recommend the books Practical Studies, by Solie, and All-in-One
Cisco(r) CCIE(tm) Lab Study Guide, by Stephen Hutnik, Michael Satterlee.
I specially appreciate the correction of Satterlee labs.





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20:02:43

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Assunto:Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]


Has anyone taken the new format of the written test?  I just got my head
handed to me.  Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47.  I definitely studied the
wrong material.  I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, BGP, WAN and the
basic Routing Protocol interaction.  Boy was I wrong.  75% of the test was
Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS.  I studied QoS pretty well, but slacked
a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or IPX.  Ooops$300
down the drain.  Anyone else have a similiar experience?  As far as what I
used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S Exam Cert. Guide" would be enough.
Uhh, that's a big NO!  Bruno and clan don't even cover half of what was on
this test.  Anyone else recommend something different for next time?
Should
I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the Exam
blueprint
page?  I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh, that and
concentrate on useless protocols.




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Documentation CD..... [7:62438]

2003-02-04 Thread Juan Blanco
Team,
I am working like a dog every day (around 5 hours) to pack down all
different angles of all materials to be cover on the famous LAB (Folks there
are not shortcuts, I keep asking the Lord Jesus for giving me strength to
continues this journey,  Wow...What a Ride). Well now to my question.
Any tips or ideas of how to search for any topic on the Documentation CD, I
want to be able to find very quickly any configuration examples for any
topic without wasting time (This is another one that is driving me crazy,
Time is Money, well here Time is more than Money)... I know that you can
do things like "OSPF Tips" or "HRSP Tips" but at the same time I saw in a
previous mail that "Tips" was not available BTW, the way I see it, if
you need to search the Documentation for how do a particular task your
changes of passing a very low, it is only 8 hours to put together a network
out of Space (Jokingnot complaining) Again, all I want to is to make
sure I am covering as much as I can.

Thanks, and as always your comments are appreciated...


Juan Blanco




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RE: ISDN Dialer Watch on 4500 [7:62423]

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Perez
And you have a dynamic routing protocol watching the routes and it is able
to see when the one you specify disappears?

Could you post your config?

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISDN Dialer Watch on 4500 [7:62423]


Are there any special tricks to getting a dialer watch to work on a 4500
NP-4B?  I have tried the configurations from the web site and from Solie's
book on a 4500 w/4B connecting to a 4000M/4B via a Teltone Demonstrator.  I
cannot get the ISDN to show any dialer event activity when I unplug the
serial cable.  Packet debug shows the dialer conditions appropriately
(primary, secondary down) but no attempt appears to be made to dial out. 
I'm using IOS 12's.  I've tried clearing the int bri's, shut/no shut the bri
on each end, turning off the demonstrator, reloading the router.




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RE: Book for CSPFA & MCNS [7:62431]

2003-02-04 Thread Joseph R. Taylor
Hi Gunjan,
   I've read the Managing Cisco Network Security: ISBN:1578701031 published
by www.ciscopress.com. It's a good book. Although, lenthy and currently
outdated. Also, I'm currently reading Cisco Secure PIX Firewalls:
ISBN:1587050358. I think it will be comprehensive. Until new books are
written for the new exams these will do. I'm more interested in some updated
practice exams for these two certs.
 JoeT  MCSE, CCNP


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NLI Lab [7:62441]

2003-02-04 Thread Naomi James
Has anyone used the CCIE Lab subscription from NLI?  If so, was it useful to
you in studying for the CCIE?  Please give me your thoughts on the product.
 
Naomi James
Computer Services and Information Technology
Savannah State University
912-356-2509

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Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62442]

2003-02-04 Thread Hal Kurz
Along the same lines, how does one find such clients? Any services you use,
techniques for finding potential clients?

Hal
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Schlenger" 
To: "'Sam Munzani'" ; "steve r" ;
"Jay Greenberg" ; ;

Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment


> Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)
>
> Mike
> Chicagoland CCIE #7079
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
> To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)
>
> In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
you
> got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
> will not argue about it.
>
> Sam
>
>
> > CCIE self employed,
> > well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver partner
> > status, (and some other requirements too)
> >
> > If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
the
> > hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> > billing rate..
> > Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like my
> > friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> > Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> > or less if its cash..
> >
> > Stephen
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Greenberg" 
> > To: ; 
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > > 
> > > .
> > .
> .
> .




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Content Switch Module and Server Load Balancing [7:62443]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anybody could share any real example of using Server Load Balancing in
6000 switches?




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T1 CSU Service-module command help required [7:62445]

2003-02-04 Thread Simmi Singla
Hi all,
while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module commands.
Here when I have the following command
service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate | v54] 
The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with standard-loopup codes.
and its mentioned in documentation also that by entering the service-module
t1 remote-loopback command without specifying any keywords, you enable the
standard-loopup codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3
pattern for loopdown.


The calrifications needed are that
1) If I select the full option from the cli then want to switch back to the
default option, do the above command without parameters will do that function
example
service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate


then if i want to switch to default option will this work

service-module t1 remote-loopback 

But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard loopup codes.
Just by negating the earlier command
is their some command for this

2) For what this default option used for



 


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RE: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]

2003-02-04 Thread Greg Macaulay
I'm not sure I agree about losing tax breaks -- with the exception of having
to pay the "employers share" of FICA.  There was a time over the past 28
years where -- when I wasn't a professor -- I ran a small law practice.  I
had 1099s -- and simply expensed everyting on a Schedule C.  I believe that
you can do the same -- without difficulty -- as long as you keep adequate
records.

You do not need to have an employer, or headhunter -- unless they are going
to underwrite your expenses etc.

Lastly, DO NOT consider this as legal advice!  I'm not practicing law
anymore -- and if I was you would be getting my bill for $300/hr --
regardless of a 1099!! 

Greg Macaulay
Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab
Lifetime AARP member
Retired Attorney/Law Professor

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Sam Sneed
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62367]
>
>
> The 1099 is an easy way to go but you lose out on a lot of tax
> breaks. I'm a
> 1099 now and am kicking myself in the ass for not setting up as small
> business.
> I'm working in NYC now. $6 just to take the bridge into NYC from
> jersey and
> $25 day parking. Never mind 40 minutes each way traffic to
> commute 10 miles.
> If you're set up as a small business you have more flexiblity in
> writing off
> expenses like these.
>
> ""Chuck Church""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yes.  Money will depend on your skill level with both Cisco and other
> > products as well, such as Unix, NW, MS, etc.  It could be
> $30/hour, could
> be
> > $100.  Location is probably almost as important.  NYC pays pretty well,
> but
> > it cost's $50 to park a car for 4 hours!  The thing about
> consulting like
> > this is you need be a salesperson at times.  Personally, I hate
> salespeople,
> > and therefore don't make a good one myself.  There's also more
> > responsibility, as far as finding your own insurance, paying taxes, etc.
> If
> > you can find a headhunter who will place you as a 1099 employee, that's
> > usually pretty good, but I haven't heard from my headhunter in months
> > :(I was on an indefinite project for a year, but that ended
> when they
> > outsourced.  Since then it's all been small projects, mostly complicated
> > installs involving layer 3 switching.  It's a tough market, and
> getting a
> > name for yourself can be difficult.  Personally, I'm looking for a full
> time
> > position now.
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jay Greenberg"
> > To: ;
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term or
> > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > >
> > > .




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Re: Documentation CD..... [7:62438]

2003-02-04 Thread The Long and Winding Road
the search engine on the doc CD is crap. Your only hope is to spend just a
little time learning where to find things using the menus.

for example, great information on regular expressions is found where? in the
dial services section under IOS.

where do you find info on setting up a router as a tftp server?

a web server?

etc.

in other words, you probably should spend some time drilling through the
menus and checking out the kinds of things in each section.

HTH

--
TANSTAAFL
"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"




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> Team,
> I am working like a dog every day (around 5 hours) to pack down all
> different angles of all materials to be cover on the famous LAB (Folks
there
> are not shortcuts, I keep asking the Lord Jesus for giving me strength to
> continues this journey,  Wow...What a Ride). Well now to my question.
> Any tips or ideas of how to search for any topic on the Documentation CD,
I
> want to be able to find very quickly any configuration examples for any
> topic without wasting time (This is another one that is driving me crazy,
> Time is Money, well here Time is more than Money)... I know that you
can
> do things like "OSPF Tips" or "HRSP Tips" but at the same time I saw in a
> previous mail that "Tips" was not available BTW, the way I see it, if
> you need to search the Documentation for how do a particular task your
> changes of passing a very low, it is only 8 hours to put together a
network
> out of Space (Jokingnot complaining) Again, all I want to is to
make
> sure I am covering as much as I can.
>
> Thanks, and as always your comments are appreciated...
>
>
> Juan Blanco




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wireless sniffing [7:62448]

2003-02-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I've tried numerous times to continue participation in the wireless
discussion. My messages have all been filtered, as far as I can tell. I hope
the moderators don't post them now, if this one gets through.

I did learn a lot from the answers. Thanks.

Here's one thing that I'm just now understanding. Association isn't
necessary for wireless sniffing. It would be necessary for receiving frames.

Bottom line, as someone said, use PEAP or LEAP.

Priscilla


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but IMPORTANT. please help [7:62449]

2003-02-04 Thread Avinash Tadimalla
Hi everyone,
could someone please point me to the admin of this mailing list?
thanks a lot,
avinash




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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-04 Thread J.D. Chaiken
As an employee of one of those training centers, I would like to warn anyone
considering one of them to beware of schools that list salaries in their
advertisments.  The last I checked Institutions that are accredited by the
US Department of Education are not permitted to make promises with regard to
future salary.  They are not even allowed to allude to it.  So if you are
thinking about enrolling in a school which advertises "That if you take our
xxx course, you can earn $"  you should be suspect.  Also beware of
schools that offer Placement guarntees, as it is impossible to guarantee
that you will get a job unless the school has an internship program which
they consider a placement.


J



""Craig Columbus""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to late 1990s,
these
> last few years have been eye opening.
> Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could easily land a
> job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning power was an
> anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically, jobs that paid
> significantly more than average (engineering, medicine, law, etc.)
required
> a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.  When it got to
> the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could pass certain
> certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps, two things
happened:
> 1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded demand.  As
> anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell you, excess supply
> leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary) required to
> obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
> 2) Companies realized that certifications were no predictor of ability or
> performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline indicator that the
person
> has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.
>
> Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of qualified IT
> labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those with the better
> qualifications (experience, education, and certifications), those who are
> willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what they could expect
to
> earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The only places touting
> the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those training centers
> that base their very existence on luring people to very expensive classes
> with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying job in hand.
>
> The bottom line is that there's no substitution for education and hard
work
> when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are certifications still
> important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many companies use them as a
> basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and whose gets
> passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good job?  Absolutely
> not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is approaching
when
> IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as other career
> fields.  You're going to need an education along with the certification if
> you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.
>
> Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary in IT.  The way
> you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a highly dynamic
> field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to the unemployment
> line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the learning NEVER
> stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every day, you're
> going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can be frustrating
> and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how the IT guys are
> often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the CEO's car is at
the
> golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office working on an
> upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges that come with
> it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the field long enough
> to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you love technology,
> and you love your work, you'll find that over the years, your skills and
> knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.
>
>
>
> At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
> >Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york. What I want to know
is
> >that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna salary's start at
60k
> >but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out that a ccna
> >certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone please elaborate on
> >this and if possible tell me which combination of it certifications  are
> >necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.




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RE: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]

2003-02-04 Thread Alan Cowan
I had a similar experience (with a 44) and also under-estimated the
exam. I found, however, that I did use the correct study material, just
not enough time spent on learning worthless information, which you need
to do. I am not very good with memory learning and prefer something
where logic is involved... Unfortunately I found that most of the CCIE
written questions require at least some memory work, which is where I
got stuck. I did not see too much TR, but lots of MPLS, BGP, Bridging,
Multicasting and lots of questions from the web links.

Good luck with your second try. I don't think that many of us are
getting through on the first try Or are we just stupid???

I used:
Doyle 1 & 2
Caslow
MPLS and VPN architectures
Halabi - Internet routing architectures
Boson tests 1 and 3
Cisco web
I also referred to a few of my CCNP books, but not in great detail.


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Subject: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]


Has anyone taken the new format of the written test?  I just got my head
handed to me.  Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47.  I definitely studied
the wrong material.  I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, BGP, WAN
and the basic Routing Protocol interaction.  Boy was I wrong.  75% of
the test was Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS.  I studied QoS pretty
well, but slacked a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or
IPX.  Ooops$300 down the drain.  Anyone else have a similiar
experience?  As far as what I used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S
Exam Cert. Guide" would be enough. 
Uhh, that's a big NO!  Bruno and clan don't even cover half of what was
on this test.  Anyone else recommend something different for next time?
Should I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the
Exam blueprint page?  I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh,
that and concentrate on useless protocols.




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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Good answers. Here are a few additional comments. 

OSPF is an IETF standard, which has the following advantages:

You have access to the RFCs that describe it, which can help when
troubleshooting and designing network changes, even though the RFCs aren't
very readable.

Engineers from around the world can enhance OSPF, using standard IETF
procedures and taking advantage of IETF work on advanced routing protocol
features.


EIGRP is not an IETF standard. You said below that the spec if available,
but that's not true. Cisco has lots of documentaton on EIGRP but they have
not released a specification for it.

The fact that EIGRP is not a standard means that it probably won't be able
to take advantage of new IETF work, or at least not as easily, and not with
so much input from engineers around the world.


By the way, EIGRP converges very quickly too. And it doesn't use load and
reliability in its metric by default. Also it passes MTU info around, but
MTU isn't part of the metric. In fact, figuring out exactly how a router
running EIGRP uses MTU is one of those things that you can't find a
specification on.


Good discussion! 

Priscilla


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi) wrote:
> 
> In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:
> 
> >  I have been using EIGRP for our routing protocol for the
> last couple years,
> >  which is prettly great.  The controversal of selecting the
> routing protocol
> >  came up again recently.  I would like to have your opinion
> on EIGRP vs.
> >  OSPF, which one is refered?  What's the weakness and
> advantage?  Thanks!
> 
> - OSPF is pretty much supported by all vendors nowadays.
> - OSPF calculates a tree from the point of origin using
> Dijkstra's
>   algorithm (SPF)
> - OSPF is a link-state protocol, you get really fast
> convergence by tuning
>   the timers
> - All area 0 (ie. backbone) routers have a complete overview of
> the
>   network
> - Easy to deploy
> - By default link-cost is calculated from the bandwidth of the
> link
> - Only for IP
> - Filtering on ABR/ASBR only, between areas preferably
> 
> - EIGRP, although the spec is available, only you usually find
> it on only
>   brand Ci$co routers.
> - EIGRP calculates it's view of the world using DUAL (Diffusing
> update
>   algorithm)
> - Router stores its neighbors routing tables and queries its
> neighbors if
>   no specific route is found
> - It's pretty much a distance-vector protocol with some
> features borrowed
>   from link-state ones.
> - Pretty easy to deploy
> - Is bugwards compatible with IGRP
> - Works with IP and IPX
> - Easy to filter and aggregate, on any interface (ie you can do
> "areas"
>   quite easily)
> - Takes into account path reliability, loading, MTU, lowest
> bandwidth
>   between destinations, total delay when calculating the best
> way of
>   getting to the destination.
> - Enterprise people tend to prefer EIGRP over others because
> it's easy to
>   do ISDN backup with it
> 
> 
> Most people would nowadays choose OSPF because their CIOs might
> want to
> keep a second vendor option on the table. Service providers
> would probably
> choose IS-IS (my favorite) or OSPF.
> 
> 
> 
> // kaj
> 
> 




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Re: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]

2003-02-04 Thread Dennis Laganiere
The Bruno book is just a place to start.  It will at least give you an
introduction to each of the topics...

I would recommend reading both of Doyle's Routing TCP/IP books, Sam Halabi's
Internet Routing Architectures, Caslow's Cisco Certification, as well as a
good MPLS book.

I'm the author of one of the Boson exams for this test (which means I have a
bit of an agenda), so I think those are useful too...

I also put together a fairly basic study guide for this exam that you can
download from www.cramsession.com (but you have to really look around to
find the free version)...

Lastly, I put together a bunch of free material at www.laganiere.net

I hope that helps give you a place to start getting ready for a second
attempt.  As hard as the qualifying exam is, trust me, the lab is much
worse...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: "Panella Todd" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:02 PM
Subject: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]


> Has anyone taken the new format of the written test?  I just got my head
> handed to me.  Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47.  I definitely studied the
> wrong material.  I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, BGP, WAN and the
> basic Routing Protocol interaction.  Boy was I wrong.  75% of the test was
> Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS.  I studied QoS pretty well, but
slacked
> a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or IPX.  Ooops$300
> down the drain.  Anyone else have a similiar experience?  As far as what I
> used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S Exam Cert. Guide" would be enough.
> Uhh, that's a big NO!  Bruno and clan don't even cover half of what was on
> this test.  Anyone else recommend something different for next time?
Should
> I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the Exam
blueprint
> page?  I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh, that and
> concentrate on useless protocols.




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Fast Ethernet on 4700 [7:62350]

2003-02-04 Thread Richard Burdette
Earlier I asked if anyone had new boot rom's for a 4700M series router. 
Perhaps I should have been more specific with the problem I've encountered. 
I purchased a used 4700M off ebay the other day.  Got it here, powered it
up, upgraded the IOS and all was fine.  I also purchased an NP-1FE from
Ebay.  When I installed the module in the router, it had a bus error that
mentioned something about needing what I think mentioned a newer boot rom,
11.1(2) or better.

Over the last several says I have searched up and down CCO for any mention
of needing newer boot roms for the FE to work in a 4700 and found nothing. 
What I did see mentioned is that an FE requires more shared memory, at least
1.5 MB per interface if you use this module.  The 4700 I have has the
standard 4 MB shared.  Have anyone experienced this problem in the past?  Do
I only need to boost the amount of shared memory of the router?

Richard Burdette 


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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-04 Thread Larry Letterman
Craig,

Very well put...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


- Original Message -
From: "Craig Columbus"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]


> For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to
late 1990s, these
> last few years have been eye opening.
> Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could
easily land a
> job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning
power was an
> anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically,
jobs that paid
> significantly more than average (engineering, medicine,
law, etc.) required
> a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.
When it got to
> the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could
pass certain
> certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps,
two things happened:
> 1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded
demand.  As
> anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell
you, excess supply
> leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary)
required to
> obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
> 2) Companies realized that certifications were no
predictor of ability or
> performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline
indicator that the person
> has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.
>
> Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of
qualified IT
> labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those
with the better
> qualifications (experience, education, and
certifications), those who are
> willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what
they could expect to
> earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The
only places touting
> the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those
training centers
> that base their very existence on luring people to very
expensive classes
> with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying
job in hand.
>
> The bottom line is that there's no substitution for
education and hard work
> when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are
certifications still
> important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many
companies use them as a
> basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and
whose gets
> passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good
job?  Absolutely
> not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is
approaching when
> IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as
other career
> fields.  You're going to need an education along with the
certification if
> you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.
>
> Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary
in IT.  The way
> you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a
highly dynamic
> field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to
the unemployment
> line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the
learning NEVER
> stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every
day, you're
> going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can
be frustrating
> and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how
the IT guys are
> often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the
CEO's car is at the
> golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office
working on an
> upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges
that come with
> it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the
field long enough
> to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you
love technology,
> and you love your work, you'll find that over the years,
your skills and
> knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.
>
>
>
> At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
> >Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york.
What I want to know is
> >that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna
salary's start at 60k
> >but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out
that a ccna
> >certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone
please elaborate on
> >this and if possible tell me which combination of it
certifications  are
> >necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.
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Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62442]

2003-02-04 Thread Craig Columbus
I think I've posted along these lines before, but it's important to
reiterate:

1) Working for yourself is a great idea.  It provides flexibility that no 
employer can offer.  You set the hours, you decide which clients to work 
with, you decide which projects to accept, you decide how much to charge, 
and you decide how much to pay yourself.
2) It's NOT EASY.  I can't stress this enough.  Between filing regulatory 
paperwork, keeping up with accounting, doing all marketing, going to sales 
meetings, etc., you'll find yourself working some very long 
hours...especially if you've got enough clients to stay busy.
3) Don't expect that you're going to work 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a 
year.  My experience is that 25 hours of billable is a FULL work week when 
coupled with all the other tasks of keeping a small business 
afloat.  Certain long-term projects will be the exception to this rule.
4) Make sure you've got enough cash to cover receivable cycles.  Some 
clients will pay on time...others will take 60-90 days.  Don't 
underestimate expenses...they'll come back to bite you when it's least 
convenient.  There's been more than once when I've had a AmEx payment due 
of many thousands of dollars and a big customer check was late 
arriving.  Trust me...it'll make you sweat if you don't have the cash on 
hand to cover.
5) Don't ever stop marketing, networking, and selling.  Since sales cycles 
can typically take 60-90 days, the time to find your next gig is while 
you're working on your current one.
6) Treat your customers well.  If they trust and respect you, they'll come 
to you first when they need assistance.  This repeat business is vital to 
staying afloat financially.
7) Refer to number 2.  It's NOT EASY.  When you work for yourself, the buck 
stops with you.  When there's a problem, you have to deal with it.  When 
there's a decision to be made, you have to deal with it.  When a customer 
complains, you have to deal with it.  If you're not prepared to deal with 
all aspects of running a business, you're not ready to go out on your own.
8) If you've read all of the above and you still have the entrepreneurial 
bug, I recommend that you go for it.  Working for yourself can be a huge 
hassle, but it's also tremendously rewarding.

Good luck!
Craig



At 03:29 PM 2/4/2003 +, you wrote:
>Along the same lines, how does one find such clients? Any services you use,
>techniques for finding potential clients?
>
>Hal
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mike Schlenger"
>To: "'Sam Munzani'" ; "steve r" ;
>"Jay Greenberg" ; ;
>
>Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:42 PM
>Subject: RE: CCIE Self-Employment
>
>
> > Really? WHERE DO I SIGN?? :)
> >
> > Mike
> > Chicagoland CCIE #7079
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sam Munzani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:12 PM
> > To: steve r; Jay Greenberg; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE Self-Employment
> >
> >
> > Rate depends on who is paying and how much do they have? :-)
> >
> > In chicago area $125/Hr is considered normal with 1 way travel time. If
>you
> > got a fortune 500 client, you can easily bump it up to $175/Hr. and they
> > will not argue about it.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> > > CCIE self employed,
> > > well if you find another CCIE to partner with you can get silver
partner
> > > status, (and some other requirements too)
> > >
> > > If you are in the biz you should know...pix...vpn and some other stuff
>the
> > > hourly work is great but it depends on the clients locations...and the
> > > billing rate..
> > > Good luck in this market it may be better then being out of work like
my
> > > friend is (and he is a CCIE too)
> > > Bill at what you can get $100 to $200 an hour or more
> > > or less if its cash..
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Jay Greenberg"
> > > To: ;
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: CCIE Self-Employment
> > >
> > >
> > > > Any CCIEs on the list in business for themselves?  What's the money
> > > > like, what sort of companies do you work for?  Do you do short-term
or
> > > > long term contracts?  Hourly work?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Greenberg, CCIE #11021
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > .
> > .
> > .




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passed ccie written [7:62395]

2003-02-04 Thread paul dong so
Hi all,

Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really
want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group.

Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple,
will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to
check the questions. Passing score 58.

Highly recommend
1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or
understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up
something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to
waste your brain resource  memorizing the answers.
2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn,
mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read
superficially, but not in depth.
3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my
another failing point.
4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to
read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls,
Caslow.

Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab.

Cheers,

Paul




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T1 CSU Service-module command help required [7:62445]

2003-02-04 Thread Simmi Singh
Hi all, 
while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module commands. 
Here when I have the following command 
service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate | v54] 
The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with standard-loopup codes.
and its mentioned in documentation also that by entering the service-module
t1 remote-loopback command without specifying any keywords, you enable the
standard-loopup codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3
pattern for loopdown.


The calrifications needed are that 
1) If I select the full option from the cli then want to switch back to the
default option, do the above command without parameters will do that function
example 
service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 


then if i want to switch to default option will this work 

service-module t1 remote-loopback 

But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard loopup codes. 
Just by negating the earlier command 
is their some command for this 

2) For what this default option used for 

any help will be appreciated


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About Unity Engineer Exam [7:62389]

2003-02-04 Thread Jefferson Orsi Siratuti
Hello,

anyone has take the Unity Engineer Exam? This exam is hard? Boson tests are
the best simulates for this exam?

Thanks.

Jefferson
CCNA / CCNP / BISCI Technician / MCSE (2/7)


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RE:( T1 CSU some More doubts added)Modified [7:62445]

2003-02-04 Thread Simmi Singh
I have  1 Port T1 CSU/DSU WAN Interface Card,
some more problems I am facing are
1) when I am trying to give
service-module t1 remote-loopback payload command with out any optional
parameter it does not work and gives that incomplete command error.where as
the V54 is optional parameter

2) this combination of command also does not work and gives format error.
service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 

this both v54 and alternate are optional parameters as mentioned in the
documentation.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a00800874e6.html#1019309

Please refer this link that these are optional parameters(v54 and alternate).
In my knowledge there could be 4 possible combinations but only two work

full
full with alternate(doesnot work)
payload(doesnot work)
payload  with v54

Can anybody explain these also in additional to the previous doubts
mentioned below
---


Simmi Singh wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> while configuring the T1 CSU DSU card we use service-module
> commands.
> Here when I have the following command 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback {full | payload} [alternate |
> v54]
> The default option is Full and payload loopbacks with
> standard-loopup codes. and its mentioned in documentation also
> that by entering the service-module t1 remote-loopback command
> without specifying any keywords, you enable the standard-loopup
> codes, which use a 1-in-5 pattern for loopup and a 1-in-3
> pattern for loopdown.
> 
> 
> The calrifications needed are that 
> 1) If I select the full option from the cli then want to switch
> back to the default option, do the above command without
> parameters will do that function
> example 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback full alternate 
> 
> 
> then if i want to switch to default option will this work 
> 
> service-module t1 remote-loopback 
> 
> But I tried this command doesnot work(incomplete command) 
> so how to enable both payload and alternate with standard
> loopup codes.
> Just by negating the earlier command 
> is their some command for this 
> 
> 2) For what this default option used for 
> 
> any help will be appreciated




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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:

>  EIGRP is not an IETF standard. You said below that the spec if available,
>  but that's not true. Cisco has lots of documentaton on EIGRP but they have
>  not released a specification for it.

AFAIK there used to be another company who manufactured routers with an EIGRP
functionality (!) years ago. A detailed spec isn't available but the packet
format is available as are descriptions of the TLVs and the FSM.

>  The fact that EIGRP is not a standard means that it probably won't be able
>  to take advantage of new IETF work, or at least not as easily, and not
with
>  so much input from engineers around the world.

Yup. It's always been Cisco's very own special little friend. ;-)

>  By the way, EIGRP converges very quickly too. And it doesn't use load and
>  reliability in its metric by default. Also it passes MTU info around, but
>  MTU isn't part of the metric. In fact, figuring out exactly how a router
>  running EIGRP uses MTU is one of those things that you can't find a
>  specification on.

Uh, true. Minimum path MTU obtained from the link is not used for calculation
of the link metric. Some people (that I've seen) set K5 as MTU.



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RE: auto notify if router config changes? also sof [7:61704]

2003-02-04 Thread Jerry Deer
Prescilla, I wanted to let you know that your suggestion to use a personal
firewall to control unwanted port usage on the LAN lead me to a very nice
solution. I found a program called portslock that basically gives you
control regardless of if its on a frame relay or local area network. Thank
you! JD

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: auto notify if router config changes? also sof [7:61704]

dre wrote:
> 
> > Also I was wondering if there is any kind of port management
> tool that can
> > deny or block usage of certain game ports on the LAN ? For
> instance if a
> > corp office is having problems with people using unwanted
> programs such as
> > messenger or counter strike (port 27015 by default) can it be
> done with a
> > software program or packet sender to "jam" that port on a
> specific
> > computer?
> 
> it's probably best to just let people run the applications that
> they want to
> run.
> if you want to improve productivity at work, pick up a book or
> go get an MBA
> or something.  i recommend this month's issue of the harvard
> business
> review.

Hear, hear. I love the way you get to the crux of the matter, dre. :-)

On a technical note, if you were to not take dre's advice, I don't know of
any way to jam a port on a specific computer from some other device, at
least not some way that wouldn't do more harm than good. Of course, you
could put an access list on the router so the traffic doesn't get out.

If your company has a very authoritative, controlling culture, then you
could put personal firewalls on the users' machines that block the ports.
Then you could lock down the firewall so they couldn't change its config.

However, the meaner you get, the more creative users will get to go around
your authority. When you tell someone they can't do something, at least here
in the US, they often take it as a challenge, not a hard-coded rule,
especially if you're dealing with testosterone infused LAN game players. :-)

Priscilla

> 
> -dre




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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread Thomas N.
Interesting! I learned OSPF on BSCN book but never deploy it.  EIGRP has
been very easy to configured and very fast converged comparing to RIP/RIPv2.
It seems OSPF gets lots of favor as a stardard protocol.  I am curious if
OSPF support load sharing on equal / unequal paths? Thanks All for the
input!

Thomas



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> Good answers. Here are a few additional comments.
>
> OSPF is an IETF standard, which has the following advantages:
>
> You have access to the RFCs that describe it, which can help when
> troubleshooting and designing network changes, even though the RFCs aren't
> very readable.
>
> Engineers from around the world can enhance OSPF, using standard IETF
> procedures and taking advantage of IETF work on advanced routing protocol
> features.
>
>
> EIGRP is not an IETF standard. You said below that the spec if available,
> but that's not true. Cisco has lots of documentaton on EIGRP but they have
> not released a specification for it.
>
> The fact that EIGRP is not a standard means that it probably won't be able
> to take advantage of new IETF work, or at least not as easily, and not
with
> so much input from engineers around the world.
>
>
> By the way, EIGRP converges very quickly too. And it doesn't use load and
> reliability in its metric by default. Also it passes MTU info around, but
> MTU isn't part of the metric. In fact, figuring out exactly how a router
> running EIGRP uses MTU is one of those things that you can't find a
> specification on.
>
>
> Good discussion!
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi) wrote:
> >
> > In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:
> >
> > >  I have been using EIGRP for our routing protocol for the
> > last couple years,
> > >  which is prettly great.  The controversal of selecting the
> > routing protocol
> > >  came up again recently.  I would like to have your opinion
> > on EIGRP vs.
> > >  OSPF, which one is refered?  What's the weakness and
> > advantage?  Thanks!
> >
> > - OSPF is pretty much supported by all vendors nowadays.
> > - OSPF calculates a tree from the point of origin using
> > Dijkstra's
> >   algorithm (SPF)
> > - OSPF is a link-state protocol, you get really fast
> > convergence by tuning
> >   the timers
> > - All area 0 (ie. backbone) routers have a complete overview of
> > the
> >   network
> > - Easy to deploy
> > - By default link-cost is calculated from the bandwidth of the
> > link
> > - Only for IP
> > - Filtering on ABR/ASBR only, between areas preferably
> >
> > - EIGRP, although the spec is available, only you usually find
> > it on only
> >   brand Ci$co routers.
> > - EIGRP calculates it's view of the world using DUAL (Diffusing
> > update
> >   algorithm)
> > - Router stores its neighbors routing tables and queries its
> > neighbors if
> >   no specific route is found
> > - It's pretty much a distance-vector protocol with some
> > features borrowed
> >   from link-state ones.
> > - Pretty easy to deploy
> > - Is bugwards compatible with IGRP
> > - Works with IP and IPX
> > - Easy to filter and aggregate, on any interface (ie you can do
> > "areas"
> >   quite easily)
> > - Takes into account path reliability, loading, MTU, lowest
> > bandwidth
> >   between destinations, total delay when calculating the best
> > way of
> >   getting to the destination.
> > - Enterprise people tend to prefer EIGRP over others because
> > it's easy to
> >   do ISDN backup with it
> >
> >
> > Most people would nowadays choose OSPF because their CIOs might
> > want to
> > keep a second vendor option on the table. Service providers
> > would probably
> > choose IS-IS (my favorite) or OSPF.
> >
> >
> >
> > // kaj




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List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread Symon Thurlow
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a reference list of ip protocols and their numbers

For example gre = 47, tcp = 6? Etc

Cheers,

Symon




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OT-Netscreen 5xp VPN very slow [7:62461]

2003-02-04 Thread Xueyan Liu
Hi, Group

Can somebody help with this problem with a netscreen 5xp firewall running
VPN (3des)?

It's behind a cable modem. If I connect my pc directly to the modem, I can
surf the internet fine. As soon as I put my pc behind the firewall and try
to access intranet web page through vpn, it's very very slow-- takes 3
minutes to load a single page.

Thanks.

Xueyan




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PIX logging [7:62462]

2003-02-04 Thread Symon Thurlow
Hi guys,

I am studying the PIX, and have successfully set it up, and am logging
to kiwi syslog daemon on my windows XP box.

I have done this before, not at home, and the info I saw in the syslog
screen was reasonably detailed, ie it had the source and destination
ports in the text, for warnings.

I am now only getting protocol numbers (hence my other question) as seen
below:

02-04-2003  20:46:29Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"
02-04-2003  20:46:29Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"
02-04-2003  20:46:26Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:12: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 172.16.2.100 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 17 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"

This doesn't tell me much. I have been mucking around with debugging
levels and facility numbers, but not getting anywhere. Anyone know how
to force it to show port numbers?

Cheers,

Symon




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Specifying networks in OSPF - How? [7:62463]

2003-02-04 Thread Cisco Nuts
Hello,

Is there a rule of thumb on specifying the network commands in an Ospf FR 
topology?
Ex. for netw. 10.10.10.1/24,  would one specify under ospf:

#router ospf 1
#netw 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

OR

#router ospf 1
#netw 10.10.10.1 0.0.0.0 area 0

Which one??

Is the network specified or the host address itself. Does it depend if it's 
a frame-relay full-mesh (ip ospf network broadcast/non-broadcast) or 
partial-mesh (ip ospf network point-to-multipoint) ?

Thank you.
Sincerely,
CN






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RE: List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread Joseph R. Taylor
Hi Symon,
   Try this URL:http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers.
   JoeT


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Re: List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread John Neiberger
A search on Google using the terms "ip protocol numbers" turned up the
following link:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers 

:-)

Regards,
John

>>> "Symon Thurlow"  2/4/03 1:44:32 PM >>>
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a reference list of ip protocols and their numbers

For example gre = 47, tcp = 6? Etc

Cheers,

Symon




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RE: List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread Symon Thurlow
Ah yes, unfortunately I am still not fluent in "google"..., or ,my brain
is asleep, or both.

My searches for:

listing of IP protocols

And 

IP Protocol listing

Gave me a load of un-realted information...

I even got out "TCP/IP Illustrated V1" and Doyle Routing TCP/IP and
couldn't find it.

Thanks John!

Symon

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A search on Google using the terms "ip protocol numbers" turned up the
following link:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers 

:-)

Regards,
John

>>> "Symon Thurlow"  2/4/03 1:44:32 PM >>>
Hi all,

Does anyone know of a reference list of ip protocols and their numbers

For example gre = 47, tcp = 6? Etc

Cheers,

Symon
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RE: PIX logging [7:62467]

2003-02-04 Thread Symon Thurlow
Further to this,

I searched Google (I do get it right occasionally) and found that
this happens when you use access lists instead of conduits with 5.1.

I am using 5.1(5), the other PIX I had detailed info on was using 6.22.

Still looking for a workaround (other than changing my access lists to
conduits).

Cheers,

Symon

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Subject: PIX logging


Hi guys,

I am studying the PIX, and have successfully set it up, and am logging
to kiwi syslog daemon on my windows XP box.

I have done this before, not at home, and the info I saw in the syslog
screen was reasonably detailed, ie it had the source and destination
ports in the text, for warnings.

I am now only getting protocol numbers (hence my other question) as seen
below:

02-04-2003  20:46:29Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"
02-04-2003  20:46:29Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:16: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 192.168.100.20 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 6 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"
02-04-2003  20:46:26Local4.Warning  172.16.1.1  Feb 04
2003 20:46:12: %PIX-4-106019: IP packet from 172.16.2.100 to
172.16.1.100, protocol 17 received from interface "DMZ" deny by
access-group "dmz2int"

This doesn't tell me much. I have been mucking around with debugging
levels and facility numbers, but not getting anywhere. Anyone know how
to force it to show port numbers?

Cheers,

Symon




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Re: List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread Sam Sneed
more /etc/protocols  has some:


ip  0   IP  # internet protocol, pseudo protocol number
icmp1   ICMP# internet control message protocol
ggp 3   GGP # gateway-gateway protocol
tcp 6   TCP # transmission control protocol
egp 8   EGP # exterior gateway protocol
pup 12  PUP # PARC universal packet protocol
udp 17  UDP # user datagram protocol
hmp 20  HMP # host monitoring protocol
xns-idp 22  XNS-IDP # Xerox NS IDP
rdp 27  RDP # "reliable datagram" protocol

#
# Internet (IPv6) extension headers
#
ipv641  IPv6# IPv6 in IP encapsulation
ipv6-route  43  IPv6-Route  # Routing header for IPv6
ipv6-frag   44  IPv6-Frag   # Fragment header for IPv6
esp 50  ESP # Encap Security Payload for IPv6
ah  51  AH  # Authentication Header for IPv6
ipv6-icmp   58  IPv6-ICMP   # IPv6 internet control message
protocol
ipv6-nonxt  59  IPv6-NoNxt  # No next header extension header
for IP
v6
ipv6-opts   60  IPv6-Opts   # Destination Options for IPv6

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> Does anyone know of a reference list of ip protocols and their numbers
>
> For example gre = 47, tcp = 6? Etc
>
> Cheers,
>
> Symon




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T1 loopback settings [7:62470]

2003-02-04 Thread Deepak N
Hi All
 I am having the T1 CSU/DSU card. While configuring the remote loopback
settings, i am facing some problems like, whatever has been given in cco is
not happening.

The following the excerpt from the cco doc.

The service-module t1 remote-loopback command specifies whether the T1
CSU/DSU goes into loopback when it receives a loopback code on the line. The
[full | payload] parameter specifies whether the T1 CSU/DSU accepts full
loopbacks (CSU loopback) or payload loopbacks (DSU loopback).

The [v54 | alternate] parameter selects the loopback code that the T1
CSU/DSU recognizes or generates with the loopback remote command. The
"standard" pattern (specified by ommitting the [v54 | alternate]) is used in
the United States and consists of a repeating bit pattern "1". The
alternate pattern is used in Canada, and is the inverse of the "standard"
code:  "0".

To disable remote loopbacks, use no service-module t1 remote-loopback. The
T1 module will not generate loopback codes via the loopback remote command
if configured for no service-module t1 remote-loopback.



But when i am configuring on the router, if i give the command
service-module t1 remote-loopback full lternate, 
this gives the format error.
Also if i give only 
service-module t1 remote-loopback payload and hit the enter key, it gives
the incomplete command msg.

I want to know what are the sequence of commands used in real time networks 

The standard pattern what the doc says, will not be taken in CLI. only for
full it is available but for payload we need to give v54. but v54 is given
as optional. I am getting much confused.

Thanks in advance
Regards
Deepak


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Re: Specifying networks in OSPF - How? [7:62463]

2003-02-04 Thread John Neiberger
In OSPF, the network statement specifies which interfaces will
participate in OSPF routing.  Use whichever syntax you prefer.  Your
first example would cause all interfaces in the 10.10.10.0/24 range to
participate.  Your second example activates only the interface with the
IP address 10.10.10.1.  It really depends on what you're trying to
accomplish.

As a guideline, though, many including myself would suggest that you
always be as specific as possible, using one network statement with a
mask of 0.0.0.0 for each interface.  This is a little more work but it
reduces errors and aids in troubleshooting.

Regards,
John

>>> "Cisco Nuts"  2/4/03 1:52:53 PM >>>
Hello,

Is there a rule of thumb on specifying the network commands in an Ospf
FR 
topology?
Ex. for netw. 10.10.10.1/24,  would one specify under ospf:

#router ospf 1
#netw 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

OR

#router ospf 1
#netw 10.10.10.1 0.0.0.0 area 0

Which one??

Is the network specified or the host address itself. Does it depend if
it's 
a frame-relay full-mesh (ip ospf network broadcast/non-broadcast) or 
partial-mesh (ip ospf network point-to-multipoint) ?

Thank you.
Sincerely,
CN






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Re: Pix Enable Password recovery [7:62401]

2003-02-04 Thread John Faulk
John, this should help you out. I suggest you bookmark the site.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml

John



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Re: passed ccie written [7:62395]

2003-02-04 Thread Leon Zhao
Congrats. I've been seeing complaints about too much questions on old 
tech such as Token Ring, IPX. Did you have the same feeling?

Thanks,
Leon

paul dong so wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really
>want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group.
>
>Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple,
>will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to
>check the questions. Passing score 58.
>
>Highly recommend
>1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or
>understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up
>something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to
>waste your brain resource  memorizing the answers.
>2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn,
>mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read
>superficially, but not in depth.
>3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my
>another failing point.
>4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to
>read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls,
>Caslow.
>
>Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul




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RE: Blown Away By The New CCIE Written [7:62396]

2003-02-04 Thread Logan, Harold
Todd, here's something that may help a little... Bill Parkhurst's take on
the IE Written at Networkers last year was something to the tune of, "The
purpose of the written exam is to test things that we simply can't test on
the lab."

Just think of the written as a box that you have to check before you can
take the lab. Studying for the written is NOT the same as studying for the
lab... the two are totally different animals.

Incidentally, I noticed Dennis Laganiere also replied to this thread. I
downloaded the Boson test he wrote the day of my lab, and it was a great
help. Assuming that it's been updated for the new test, I highly recommend
that you use it to test yourself maybe a day or two before your next attempt.

Good luck,

Hal Logan
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Computing & Engineering Technology
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> 
> 
> Has anyone taken the new format of the written test?  I just 
> got my head
> handed to me.  Needed a 58 to pass and got a 47.  I 
> definitely studied the
> wrong material.  I thought the test would emphasize OSPF, 
> BGP, WAN and the
> basic Routing Protocol interaction.  Boy was I wrong.  75% of 
> the test was
> Multicast, IPX, Token Ring and QoS.  I studied QoS pretty 
> well, but slacked
> a bit on Multicast and totally wrote off Token Ring or IPX.  
> Ooops$300
> down the drain.  Anyone else have a similiar experience?  As 
> far as what I
> used, I thought the "official CCIE R&S Exam Cert. Guide" 
> would be enough. 
> Uhh, that's a big NO!  Bruno and clan don't even cover half 
> of what was on
> this test.  Anyone else recommend something different for 
> next time?  Should
> I just say No to all books and print out all the links on the 
> Exam blueprint
> page?  I think that's what I'm going to do this time, oh, that and
> concentrate on useless protocols.




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RE: About Unity Engineer Exam [7:62389]

2003-02-04 Thread William
It's a difficult exam in that you need to know all the hardware specs for
the various servers etc.  Other than that, its not too bad.

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Hello,

anyone has take the Unity Engineer Exam? This exam is hard? Boson tests are
the best simulates for this exam?

Thanks.

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SQLNET/TNS Firewall Rule [7:62472]

2003-02-04 Thread Paulo Roque
I have a PIX firewall  between a oracle server and a client.

The client always start a connection on port 1521 on the server.

The server always send a port redirect to the client informing the client to
start a new connection on second port.

This second port is always random, what makes me create a rule that permits
the client to connect to any port on the server. This situation is bad.

Is it possible to create a rule that restrict the client access to the
server and still permit the oracle connection to occur?











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Re: EIGRP vs. OSPF [7:62419]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:

>  been very easy to configured and very fast converged comparing to
RIP/RIPv2.

Anything is fast compared to RIP/RIPv2 ;-)

>  It seems OSPF gets lots of favor as a stardard protocol.  I am curious if
>  OSPF support load sharing on equal / unequal paths?

Only equal cost paths are taken into consideration when using OSPF. The
default is four of them. You can change it with maximum-paths under
"router ospf."




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6509 23" Rack Mount Kit? [7:62474]

2003-02-04 Thread Lupi, Guy
Does anyone know if the 6509 has a 23" telco rack mount kit?  I can't seem
to find one.  Thanks.

Guy H. Lupi




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Re: Specifying networks in OSPF - How? [7:62463]

2003-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote:

>  Is there a rule of thumb on specifying the network commands in an Ospf FR 
>  topology?

AFAIK adding the network should be the same regardless of technology
used. I've always treated a FR/ATM PVC the same as a STM-16 SRP cct.

> Ex. for netw. 10.10.10.1/24,  would one specify under ospf:
> #router ospf 1
> #netw 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

You're adding 10.10.10.0/24 now, example:

int fa0/0/0
  ip add 10.10.10.254 255.255.255.0

router ospf asn
  network 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

On some images (at least 12.0S, 12.2, IPv6 EFT) entering

router ospf asn
  network 10.10.10.254 0.0.0.255 area 0

will work the same and actually get translated to the first example above.
I don't know how long this has been around but older software seemed to barf
on entering the second example above :)

>  #router ospf 1
>  #netw 10.10.10.1 0.0.0.0 area 0

You're adding 10.10.10.1/32. Usually people do this if 10.10.10.1 would
be assigned to a /32 loopback interface:

int lo0
  ip add 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.255

router ospf asn
  network 10.10.10.1 0.0.0.0 area 0

>  Is the network specified or the host address itself. Does it depend if
it's
>  a frame-relay full-mesh (ip ospf network broadcast/non-broadcast) or 
>  partial-mesh (ip ospf network point-to-multipoint) ?

It really depends on what your prefix is. Recent versions let you specify
"network 10.10.10.126 0.0.0.127 area 0" converting it to "network 10.10.10.0
0.0.0.127 area 0" (ie. the wildcard mask calculates the network address
into the config so you just cut-paste the gateway address from "ip address"
or somewhere.)

If you're buying PtP PVCs between two locations treat it as a /30 or /31
PtP subinterface.

If you're buying a mesh, you can always use frame-relay/atm maps on a
interface and specify your neighbors explicitly in your ospf configuration.
This enables you to assign different costs for each neighbor (for example.)

I guess there's at least another way of achieving the above.



// kaj




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RE: 6509 23" Rack Mount Kit? [7:62474]

2003-02-04 Thread Daniel Cotts
You might want to look to rack manufacturers. Chatsworth makes different
sized 23-19" adapters.

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> 
> Does anyone know if the 6509 has a 23" telco rack mount kit?  
> I can't seem
> to find one.  Thanks.
> 
> Guy H. Lupi




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Difference between SNMP notifications and traps [7:62478]

2003-02-04 Thread John Tafasi
What is the difference between an SNMP notification and an SNMP trap?




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Modem Config [7:62479]

2003-02-04 Thread Azhar Teza
I am trying to setup a modem dialup for Cisco AUX or Console port.  The
modem connects fine, but then hangsand never goes to to the router prompt. 
Is there any special configs for setting up 33.6 usroobotics modem. Here is
what I am doing: GLOBAL MODE:modemcap entry
usrobotics:MSC=&F1&D3S0=1 LINE MODE:line aux 0 modem InOut modem
autoconfigure type usrobotics transport input all speed 38400 flowcontrol
hardware line con 0 modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usrobotics
transport input all speed 38400 flowcontrol hardware PIN 1, 3 AND 8 DOWN AND
THE REST OF THEM UP. Any idea? Thanks, Teza

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RE: Modem Config [7:62479]

2003-02-04 Thread Scott Terminiello
Make sure the dip switch settings are as follows:

1   UP  Data terminal ready normal
2   UP  Verbal result codes
3   DownDisplay result codes
4   UP  Echo offline commands
5   UP  Auto Answer first ring
6   UP  Carrier detect normal
7   UP  Load NVRAM defaults
8   DownSmart Mode

You need to reverse telnet into the modem to configure.  When you reverse
telnet enter the command string. Here is a good link.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/471/mod-aux-exec.html

Good luck,

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I am trying to setup a modem dialup for Cisco AUX or Console port.  The
modem connects fine, but then hangsand never goes to to the router prompt. 
Is there any special configs for setting up 33.6 usroobotics modem. Here is
what I am doing: GLOBAL MODE:modemcap entry
usrobotics:MSC=&F1&D3S0=1 LINE MODE:line aux 0 modem InOut modem
autoconfigure type usrobotics transport input all speed 38400 flowcontrol
hardware line con 0 modem InOut modem autoconfigure type usrobotics
transport input all speed 38400 flowcontrol hardware PIN 1, 3 AND 8 DOWN AND
THE REST OF THEM UP. Any idea? Thanks, Teza

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RE: List of ip protocols [7:62460]

2003-02-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Symon Thurlow wrote:
> 
> Ah yes, unfortunately I am still not fluent in "google"..., or
> ,my brain
> is asleep, or both.
> 
> My searches for:
> 
> listing of IP protocols
> 
> And 
> 
> IP Protocol listing
> 
> Gave me a load of un-realted information...
> 
> I even got out "TCP/IP Illustrated V1" and Doyle Routing TCP/IP
> and
> couldn't find it.

It's in "Troubleshooting Campus Networks." :-)

The IP protocols are pretty straightforward. The IANA list for
application-layer protocols and their UDP/TCP port numbers isn't so great
because it doesn't say which is usually used, UDP or TCP. For example, it
says this for FTP:

ftp-data 20/tcpFile Transfer [Default Data]
ftp-data 20/udpFile Transfer [Default Data]
ftp  21/tcpFile Transfer [Control]
ftp  21/udpFile Transfer [Control]

But nobody runs FTP on UDP.

That's why a book is sometimes better than the IANA documents. The book also
gives you the "truth" about "registered port numbers."

But that's port numbers. For IP Protocol numbers, the IANA doc is fine.

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> 
> Thanks John!
> 
> Symon
> 
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> Subject: Re: List of ip protocols [7:62460]
> 
> 
> A search on Google using the terms "ip protocol numbers" turned
> up the
> following link:
> 
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers 
> 
> :-)
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> >>> "Symon Thurlow"  2/4/03 1:44:32 PM >>>
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know of a reference list of ip protocols and their
> numbers
> 
> For example gre = 47, tcp = 6? Etc
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Symon
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RE: ISDN Dialer Watch on 4500 [7:62423]

2003-02-04 Thread Nelson Herron
In response to your question: I hope I haven't violated any restriction
about size of posting but here is the configuration on each end.  I thought
about editing it down, but then I thought maybe I'd delete something that
was significant that I hadn't previously noticed.  This is a test bed so I
am only watching a loopback (Lo0) on the other end.  I am running EIGRP, the
route shows up as connected through S1 when it is connected, and when I pull
the S1 line on the r4500b the dialer watch points out that the primary is
down but it never seems to make an effort to dial the other end.  If I
attempt to ping the watch address nothing happens, but if I ping the other
end of the ISDN line, it comes up, but it doesn't seem very healthy.  I
included the debug dialer output from that session at the very end of the
page.

The watchdog client
r4500b#Sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
version 12.0
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname r4500b
!
no logging buffered
enable secret 5 $1$dmkQ$LhX8ezIO8y81ypOR34wvt.
!
username r4000m password 0 wienerdog
ip subnet-zero
isdn switch-type basic-ni
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 172.255.255.240 255.255.255.255
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Loopback1
 ip address 172.18.200.9 255.255.255.248
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Loopback2
 ip address 172.18.200.17 255.255.255.240
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Loopback3
 ip address 172.18.200.33 255.255.255.224
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Ethernet0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 media-type 10BaseT
!
interface Ethernet1
 ip address 172.18.15.254 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 media-type 10BaseT
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 172.18.196.2 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
!
interface Serial1
 bandwidth 250
 ip address 172.18.200.2 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface BRI0
 ip address 192.254.254.1 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 30
 dialer watch-disable 15
 dialer map ip 172.255.255.245 name r4000m broadcast 8358662
 dialer map ip 192.254.254.2 broadcast 8358662
 dialer load-threshold 5 outbound
 dialer watch-group 10
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 isdn spid1 0835866101
 isdn spid2 0835866301
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
interface BRI1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
!
interface BRI2
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
!
interface BRI3
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
!
router eigrp 666
 network 172.18.0.0
 network 172.255.0.0
 network 192.254.254.0
 no auto-summary
!
ip classless
!
access-list 101 deny   eigrp any any
access-list 101 permit ip any any
dialer watch-list 10 ip 172.255.255.245 255.255.255.255
dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101
!
line con 0
 session-timeout 2880 
 exec-timeout 2880 0
 logging synchronous
 transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 session-timeout 2880 
 exec-timeout 2880 0
 password wiener
 login
!
end

r4500b#sh isdn active

ISDN ACTIVE CALLS

History table has a maximum of 100 entries.
History table data is retained for a maximum of 15 Minutes.

CallCalling  Called   Remote  Seconds Seconds Seconds Charges
TypeNumber   Number   NameUsedLeftIdle   
Units/Currency



r4500b#
r3662#1
The dial-in server
[Resuming connection 1 to r4000m ... ]
r4000m#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 2238 bytes
!
version 12.1
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
no service password-encryption
!
hostname r4000m
!
no logging buffered
enable secret 5 $1$51sJ$.h3NUdXcZI/hNuQefakc60
!
username r4500b password 0 wienerdog
!
!
!
!
ip subnet-zero
no ip finger
!
!
!
!
source-bridge ring-group 100
source-bridge remote-peer 100 tcp 172.19.21.1
source-bridge remote-peer 100 tcp 172.19.21.5
source-bridge remote-peer 100 tcp 172.19.21.9
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 172.255.255.245 255.255.255.255
!
interface Loopback1
 ip address 172.19.21.1 255.255.255.252
!
interface Loopback2
 ip address 172.18.196.9 255.255.255.248
!
interface Loopback3
 ip address 172.18.196.17 255.255.255.240
!
interface Loopback4
 ip address 172.18.196.33 255.255.255.224
!
interface Loopback5
 ip address 172.18.196.65 255.255.255.192
!
interface Loopback6
 ip address 172.18.196.129 255.255.255.128
!
interface Serial0
 bandwidth 250
 ip address 172.18.200.1 255.255.2

RE: Difference between SNMP notifications and traps [7:62478]

2003-02-04 Thread brett spunt
I guess it depends on the context, but when configuring a Network Mgmt
Server, like Ciscoworks, insight manager, etc. a SNMP notification
refers to a SMTP email, or pager notification, etc. of a warning, or
critical situation that has occurred, with the NMS learning about it
through various methods, like SNMP polling, or SNMP trap receiving (the
end node sends a trap about an event that has occurred, like a link
down, power supply failure, etc)
Polling is done on a different UDP port, and is done by the NMS
actively, where a "trap" is generated by the end node to the NMS
(Network mgmt server)

Hope that helps...

Brett Spunt

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Re: passed ccie written [7:62395]

2003-02-04 Thread paul dong so
Token Ring, IPX are listed in Blueprint, I will not skip those topics. 
As for questions, they are really the questions you should know the 
answers.

cheers,

Paul

Leon Zhao wrote:

> Congrats. I've been seeing complaints about too much questions on old 
> tech such as Token Ring, IPX. Did you have the same feeling?
> 
> Thanks,
> Leon
> 
> paul dong so wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Just passed the written and feel like i need to say something. Really
>>want to say thanks for all the helps I gained from this study group.
>>
>>Test is 3 hours, 150 questions, single or multiple choices. If mulitple,
>>will give indication how many answers. Can go backward and forward to
>>check the questions. Passing score 58.
>>
>>Highly recommend
>>1. Boson #1 and #3. You should make sure you either remember or
>>understand every answer. Don't even give up hard ones. Only give up
>>something you really think it is going to be nonesense if you have to
>>waste your brain resource  memorizing the answers.
>>2. Need to understand these topics in depth: VoIP, MPLS(mpls-vpn,
>>mpls-te), QoS. Those are my failing points where i only read
>>superficially, but not in depth.
>>3. Try to read the online CCO website as much as you can, here is my
>>another failing point.
>>4. The rest are the usual stuffs that every one talks a lot: books to
>>read: Doyle's routing, lan switching, cisco press QoS, cisco press mpls,
>>Caslow.
>>
>>Now it is time to crack the most difficult part: Lab.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Paul




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Re: passed ccie written [7:62484]

2003-02-04 Thread paul dong so
Hi,

I think my PC has problem, my emails don't seem to be shown, but they 
are actully there. If I have sent a few of them, please forgive me. :)

I was asked a few questions, here are the answers:

1. token ring and ipx are the topics you need to know as they are listed 
in the blueprint

2. there are exhibition questions, quite a few, you can prepare yourself 
via boson exam

3. reading CCO website to expand the topics on the books. Normally they 
are more uptodate. But it is up to your time allocation scheme as online 
materials are vast. If you don't have time, you can choose the topics 
you are not that good at or you find the books can't answer your questions.

HTH

Paul




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Re: BayTech RPC-2 [7:62331]

2003-02-04 Thread Steve Ringley
Hmm, we use a lot of those, but they are always hooked to a Baytech port
rather than direct to a Cisco port.  As I recall its a 9600 81N port.  If
you have not already found it, http://www.baytech.net/ftp_series.shtml might
be some help.


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Hi Group,

I am using baytech rpc-2 in my home lab but I could not get it to work with
a cisoc 2511 terminal server. I am using the correct cable from baytech.
Could some one with a similar experience show me how to configure the 2511
to work with baytech?

Thanks in advance

John  Tafasi




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Re: Difference between SNMP notifications and traps [7:62478]

2003-02-04 Thread Steve Ringley
An SNMP notification is a trap.  Its that simple. I looked at some Cisco
SNMP feature web pages and that is how they used the term.

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What is the difference between an SNMP notification and an SNMP trap?




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RE: OT-Netscreen 5xp VPN very slow [7:62461]

2003-02-04 Thread Ivan Yip
Hi,

Did you check the NS-5XP log?
Also, if you place your PC behind the NS and access internet, what's the
path of your traffic? Simply PC-> FW-> cable modem-> Internet OR
PC-> FW( VPN gateway ) -> cable modem -> VPN gateway -> Internet?

BUT you mentioned 3DES, if NS is just using as a Firewall, encryption (3DES
and VPN) should not cause your problem.

rgds,
ivan


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