Re: Cisco work 2000 [7:54773]
Confirm that you have reverse DNS entries for all devices. Han Chuan Alex Ang wrote:I have been trying to set up my Cisco work 2000, under resource manager essential , inventory , check device attribute , I am able to check that all device are correctly configured. However , when I try extract the topology service network view on the layer 2 view, I find that some of my switch discover by the resource manager are missing, anyone has any advice on that , thanks Robert Padjen - Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=54775t=54773 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IOS Caveats: Do I just need more coffee?? [7:46346]
Listen closely... Look into the light and don't be afraid, resistance is futile --- John Neiberger wrote: I just don't get this. I'm looking at the IOS releases for the Cat6k and I see there is now 12.1(11b)E4 and we're running 12.1(11b)E3. So, I check to see if there are any new features...none listed. Then, more interestingly, I check the resolved caveatsnone listed. So, if there are no resolved caveats and no new features, why is there an E4 release in the first place?? With no bug fixes and no new features, how is E4 different than E3? Okay, back to work John [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=46593t=46346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networkers San Diego [7:45885]
Yup. Yup. Flying myself down from SF Sunday and back Friday night if anyone is interested. (Small, single engine plane) --- Oleg Oz wrote: I think I saw a thread on this a few weeks ago but can no longer find it.. Is anyone going to networkers in San Diego.. Taking power sessions? Oleg. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45973t=45885 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
el that I would deserve the cert, even if I attained it. I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting classes in June. I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than an advanced vendor cert. But thats just me. Exactly. Especially later in your life. Fiddling with Cisco boxes might be cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50? Probably not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering other young guys to set up the systems. It's hard to win promotion to that chair without an advanced education. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=41920t=41809 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCRAN question [7:37481]
A little bird told me that old, non IOS routers were still topics on the beta for RA... --- Steve Ringley wrote: Its an interesting question about the exam though as the 700 series is not on the current product list. I am working on this exam next, and hate to spend time on something that has passed from relevance. Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... OK, I'm going to break the NDA. Not much on the 700's except for very basic stuff. It doesn't go into any detail on the 700 commands, so don't worry too much about them. Concentrate more on other stuff. Did I really break the NDA? No, but I just wanted some people out there to poop their pants when they thought I might! :-) -Original Message- From: John McCartney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BCRAN question [7:37481] I'd like to ask those that have passed the BCRAN was there a lot of ??'s on the 700 series? I'm reading it an its very dry and I'm trying to decide if I really need to focus on this aspect or focus on other areas. Any info is appreciated, don't break the NDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40837t=37481 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide [7:40309]
I believe that Todd now has a deluxe edition, as presented on Sybex's web page. CCNA: Cisco. Certified Network Associate Study Guide, Deluxe Edition By Todd Lammle US $69.99 | Can $111.95 | UK #52.99 November 2001 | 1st edition | 848 pages | Hardcover | 1 CD | Trimsize: 7.5 x 9 ISBN: 0-7821-4048-3 | EAN: 9 780782 140484 | UPC: 0252-11-440483 Level: Intermediate/Advanced | Type: How-to/Reference You're welcome Todd. ;) --- Diffy De Villiers (AJJ) wrote: I have just been told by our local bookshop that Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide for exam 640-507 has gone out of print. I went to Amazon but I could not find a newer publication by Todd. Todd, if you are still on this list, could you give an indication whether a newer book will be released soon? I am interested in the study-guide alone and not in a bundled product which includes the simulation software. The reason for this is that I use your study-guides in my classes where the students work on actual routers. Kind Regards Abraham de Villiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40358t=40309 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669]
Top Down is a great book for DCN, but it's not really for the CID. I'll go out on a limb and suggest mine ( ;) ). Sybex CID Study Guide. To save a buck, if you feel comfortable with the material, you may want to forgo the big book and use the Exam Notes (used books are out there too). The new test might focus on multicast more than the books reflect, and they may have less StrataCom and ATM, but its close enough. 640-025 (the exam the book was written to) is still the current version. Good luck. --- Andy Barkl wrote: The book is not that great. It has many errors and omissions. I recommend the Cisco Press Top-Down Network Design book for the new CID exam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of STRAND Scott Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam Cert Book [7:39669] Has anyone who has taken the CID exam used the Cisco CID Exam Certification Guide. (Michael Crane, Reggie Terell). I was wanting to get some opinions on this book, especially the practice test on the CD. I intend to use BOSON as well. Thanks, Scott CCNP, CCDA [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=40133t=39669 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Aironet to Cable Modem [7:38212]
The BSE/BSM versions of the 340 have NAT integrated, but I do not believe that the standard 340 does. The BSE uses a fixed 192.168.1.0/24 block for the wireless segment and cannot be managed over the Ethernet interface. I would recommend against it if you are using IPSec - it does not have a provision for VPN. --- Steve Smith wrote: Is this a 340 base station? if so NAT IS built into it. -Original Message- From: T B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Aironet to Cable Modem [7:38212] Thanks for the Help! I was hoping that the aironet had some NATing capabilities built into it that I couldn't find. I guess it would be considered more of smart switch then anything else. Thanks!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38356t=38212 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
With respect, I would argue that Cisco wants to sell products and that the certifications are a way to add credibality to them as a vendor. I do agree that one may come across old equipment in their travels, and perhaps I am fortunate to work with newer things, but I have to question the conflicts that exist between marketing, best practices and the certifications. My clients now expect solutions that allow for VOIP, mcast, streaming content and high bandwidth. Can I really champion the 1604 router when the 2651 is not that much more and allows for those needs (of course, if they aren't asking for those services its a balancing act). I'm never going to recommend the 766 router, for example, however. ;) --- Tshon wrote: I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare you for anything that is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't gaurantee that you won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are prepared to represent their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about the equipment and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it might work perfectly well, but we'll replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs as John knows are not if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of technology that has been around. the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be prepared for it all, in the end you need to be prepared to use your resources and understand quickly. A company might be losing or wasting money because of you. So, why whine the test shows you what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go back and bone up, then you'll pass. Tshon John Neiberger wrote: If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. Here's a suggestion for Cisco: Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam needed. Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! Regards, John On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greetings all - I have a discussion point that I am curious to get feedback on from the group. I recently took another Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the questions. For example, at least four questions regarded products that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some time ago. Other questions included choices that don't exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router for serial connections (it was a switch that does not have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no reasonable way to answer them without having previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. My observation is that this is bad for us as certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests and represent to our employers that they represent a certain level of professionalism, I think I have a real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am concerned about this for non-native English speakers taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is not the first test (production or beta) that I have noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. Please share your thoughts. BTW - If this is considered an OT item please disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding and then address the issue with Cisco if there is agreement that there is an issue. As the content of the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the potential benefits are valued. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38142t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
Greetings all - I have a discussion point that I am curious to get feedback on from the group. I recently took another Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the questions. For example, at least four questions regarded products that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some time ago. Other questions included choices that don't exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router for serial connections (it was a switch that does not have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no reasonable way to answer them without having previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. My observation is that this is bad for us as certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests and represent to our employers that they represent a certain level of professionalism, I think I have a real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am concerned about this for non-native English speakers taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is not the first test (production or beta) that I have noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. Please share your thoughts. BTW - If this is considered an OT item please disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding and then address the issue with Cisco if there is agreement that there is an issue. As the content of the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the potential benefits are valued. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=38063t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RSTP - what's up with that? [7:36851]
The original STP was developed when a four port bridge was a big deal and networks were smaller. 802.1w, portfast, etc. are all fixes to the long timers and limitations of the protocol. While I admire the efforts of the .1w committee and realize that STP is sometimes needed, I've been quite successful in using L3 for networks and removing reliance on STP. (I may still run it, but there are no L2 loops in the topology). Just a thought. --- dre wrote: If you are looking for the IEEE document, here's a copy of the draft: http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/IEEE/802-1w-d10.pdf -dre nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Does anybody know exactly how Rapid Spanning Tree works, or have a link that describes it in detail? What I'm really interested in knowing is the technical details that make it better than old-school STP, and in particular, if RSTP is better, then why didn't the original STP designers make it like RSTP in the first place (not trying to criticize, I'm just interested in the evolutionary process of protocols)? What I find curious is that I searched and while I found that web sites freely discuss how RSTP is better (or not), or talk about which vendors have implemented it or not, I haven't found a single site that describes exactly what RSTP is doing from a technical perspective and why whatever it is doing is better than STP. Furthermore, I'm not a member of IEEE, so I guess I can't access the 802.1w doc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37050t=36851 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 4224 versus 26/3600 [7:37051]
Does anyone have experience with the 4224 and/or 2651/3640 platform in a branch setting? I am looking at both platforms and considering VOIP, but mcast and QoS are required. I know that LLQ is not available yet on the 4224. Thanks for the input. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37051t=37051 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limit access to serial link to four users [7:33306]
Interesting problem. I think that I would look at QoS options or an application layer solution. Perhaps CAR configured for a maximum rate that would force the application to not have sufficient B/W on the path? --- Darrell Newcomb wrote: I try not to use the below logic on my networks, but have also never had it fail to deliver service when there was no other choice. The common streaming of windows media and real have such large client side buffers that you'll find you can seemingly overload the link without having any user observable qualitative difference. Some factors which contribute even more to the success of overloading are the bit rate varies as the encoders don't always output the maximum data rate. The fact that most streams on the public internet are short lived, the standard buffers can cover the end of the stream the user is still viewing leaving capacity for other streams to go through their peak startup period. The traditional stat muxing factors come into play where depending upon the application there is some downcycle in streaming usage in the workflow. You only need a 2.5:1 to get 300kbps streams through uncongested. Lastly I think you are approaching the wrong problem. Non streaming uses for the same 2Mbps link will be the big enemy of predictably good streaming performance. Your application may even be one of those by downloading other supporting data... To more directly approach the problem space you posed: -There is xauth in pixOS and I believe IOS NAT -Couple that with a creative authentication server, or script to control it -The above should get you the max number of sessions through. -Can't recall the reflexive access lists with CAR ball of wax off the top of my head. But there is some per-session rate limiting in cisco. There are various rate limiting equipment out there. Riverstone has good affordable routers for this, Netscreen claims to do it(haven't used them yet), and Packeteer also does this type of thing. There is more but I believe them to be the notables. There are proxy and/or cache products which would address the max number of sessions issue and maybe address the usage pattern you have. Not that I'd recommend this, but if your application and rest of the network path can adequately support forcing the streams over a tcp session you'll probably find it much easier to deal with the rate limiting. But really try to handle it without forcing tcp as any backoffs will hurt the qualitative performance if there are other signficant numbers of tcps over any congested link.(read: IME(nee opinion) tcp will backoff quicker than a given streaming protocol) Good Luck, Darrell (always looking for contract work) Newcomb Gaz wrote: Hi all, I'm after some ideas if you'd be so kind :-) A 2Mb link being used mainly for streaming media has about 15 potential users. The task is to limit the number of users at any one time to four, so they have half a Mb each (ish). My initial idea, which I must admit, I dont think is such a good one is to set up a NAT pool of four addresses, and drag the translation timeout down to about a minute (yet to be tested), so that the first four users to pass traffic will be translated and allowed through, but after that, they'll have to wait. I'm off to look at something like TACACS to see if I can control network authorization by number of users (shot in the dark). No equipment in place yet, so we have a clean drawing board. Anybody have any neat ideas please!! Thanks, Gaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33818t=33306 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ATM issue [7:33802]
Enable OAM on each PVC. This will provide the best tracking of end-to-end connectivity on each path. In 12.2 Cisco added some additional SNMP alerts and log entries as well. --- Circusnuts_1999 wrote: Is your carrier not allowing ILMI ??? Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ATM issue [7:33802] How can I detect an ATM link went down? Due to business reason, we are in a process to replace old Frame Relay connections with ATM connections. But when Carrier's ATM network had problem and one of the ATM link went down, the router interface attached to it still shows up up. For that reason the ISDN backup interface on the same router wouldn't automatically dial the remote end, and we couldn't meet 7x24 requirement. There was no such problem before switching to ATM. It works perfectly with FR connections and ISDN DDR Backup. If there was a problem in one of the FR links, the interface attached to it will go down and the ISDN interface will automatically dial the remote end. Is there any way to get around this problem? Thanks in advance. Tony -- __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33814t=33802 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How prevalent is ISL in the real world? [7:33758]
Cisco is moving towards 802.1q as: 1) Standard 2) Native VLAN allows non-trunking aware devices to participate 3) Lower overhead 802.1q is slightly less secure as there is a native VLAN. This could be a concern as packets injected into the trunk will be allowed and could be used for an attack vector. Of course, both ISL and .q have had security breaches. --- James Wilson wrote: On this same subject, how secure or how vulnerable is ISL or dot1q trunking? Is it vulnerable to arp attacks? -- James D. Wilson, CCDA, MCP Sr. Network/Security Engineer non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter necessitatem William of Ockham (1285-1347/49) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How prevalent is ISL in the real world? [7:33758] It might be an issue of installed base, or lack thereof. I believe recent CatOS releases have corrected this, but for a long while, the Cat 400x series did ISL on trunks, while doing 802.1q on ports. Older boxes, of course, may only do ISL. In these days of tight budgets it can be difficult to convince customers to upgrade absolutely, everyone should upgrade to the open standard. absolutely, everyone should migrate from token ring to ethernet. absolutely, everyone should eliminate native IPX, NetBEUI, and AppleTalk from their networks. ;- Chuck Peter van Oene wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... What are the current advantages for running ISL over 802.1q? I would expect its proprietary nature to be enough to warrant choosing against it. Pete At 03:47 PM 1/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: Is ISL still widely used? Are there still many shops out there using it? (I assume Cisco only outfits) It seems that Cisco has all but dropped support for it in favor of dot1q. Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=33822t=33758 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP neighbor limitations [7:32058]
The general guidance for EIGRP is less than 30 neighbors, and, within my organizations, we try to limit to 25/26. The issues are numerous and, of course, specific to your network, but EIGRP is a very active protocol when something fails. The CPU, memory and bandwidth required to resolve the new topology can be significant. Having said that, I have seen networks in the 100-125 neighbor range that worked for a while. I think all of them have now broken things up into smaller areas. You may want to look at ODR, statics, RIP v2 and other methodologies before accepting this customer demand. You may also want to send the 'reason' the customer is asking for this - VLSM, rest of net is EIGRP, operational experience, Cisco marketing... Good luck. --- MADMAN wrote: I don't think you'll find a hard doc as there are too mny variables. In what you are describing I would feel fine using EIGRP, just make sure you have a decent router with plenty, i.e. not the minimum recommended, memory. my gut feeling... Dave Robertson, Douglas wrote: This is actually for a practical issue, I have a customer that wants to implement +-400 remote sites connected with redundancy to two core routers. Each router will have three T1's and the 400 sites will be split between the three T1's. This still brings the EIGRP to +-133 EIGRP neighbors per interface and 400 neighbors per router. The customer wants to run EIGRP. I am asking this question to determine if this will be an issue and to find documentation to back this up. The alternative would be to run OSPF or BGP but I need backup info to get the customer to change. Thanks Doug -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: EIGRP neighbor limitations [7:32058] I don't know about a hard limit but me thinks you'll hit the practical limit first anyway:) Is this an acedemic question??? Dave Robertson, Douglas wrote: Does anyone know of limitation in the amount of EIGRP neighbors on a router. If there is, is this a limitation per physical interface or a limitation per router. I found a document on CCO a couple of months ago that mentioned these limits but I have now searched and searched but cannot find that document again. Appreciate any input D. Robertson -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=32324t=32058 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: popularity of the CID test [7:31081]
I am also quite surprised at the reality and perception regarding this exam. Based on book sales, there is a lot of interest in design (not as much as CCNA unfortunately), but the corporate environment stressed the CCIE and only looked to the CCNP. I think this was due to two factors. First, testers didn't push the DP track (whether it was the DA or the DP - I would contend both) and business don't seem to stress the design component outside of the carrier space and more tech-driven Fortune 500. The second is the perception that the exam is hard, which is the focus of this board. I would argue, failures aside, that the test is hard because it is badly written and it focuses on a different model then the other exams/tracks. As such, preparation should do it, or at least get an applicant close. The poor quality of the exam (both versions) is a bit of a tweak for me, as it made writing a book on the exam more difficult - one had to focus on the test passing and the 'correct, non-Cisco answer' concurrently. The reality is that Cisco should again revise this exam and review the design tracks, in my opinion, although with the CCIE now a one day exam and other factors I doubt this will happen. --- Steven A. Ridder wrote: It was the only test I ever failed. If you ask me, there's not much market demand for CCDP's (which makes the test a low priority), and for the amount you have to study to pass the test, it's not worth it. It's good to learn though, because it covers a lot of broad topics, from SNA to ATM LANE, AppleTalk, etc. Have fun at it. Study the BPX and IGX. Juan Blanco wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... TEAM, Why the popularity of the CID test is very low...Tips on this test..I will take it next Saturday Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=31164t=31081 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Word of Caution [7:23363]
that the seller would be more than happy to sell me that piece of equipment for 600.00 rather than my offer. Which would have been more than double my initial offer. Needless to say, I rejected that. I spoke to the Executive VP and the CEO of the company to no avail. They will not stand behind the email that came to me that my offer was accepted. Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up to STAY AWAY from this site. If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.. Has anyone used them before or heard of them. Thanks Debbie __ === message truncated === = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=23410t=23363 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slighty OT: ATM Network modules for 2600/3600 [7:21742]
Please note that the 3600 cannot service more than 20 Mbps on an interface - ie, you cannot drive a HSSI, DS-3 or OC-3. --- George Murphy CCNP, CCDP wrote: John we went with IMA cards in our 2600s when we went frame to ATM John Neiberger wrote: I apologize for this but I'm having a tough time getting good information. We're considering migrating from our frame relay network to ATM. We were planning on doing some other upgrades anyway that include adding 2620 routers at our branches. Our provider says that they offer ATM in 3 Meg increments but it comes in on DS3 facilities. Do any of you know what network module I'd need for this? The 2600 has the NM-1ATM-25 available that sounds close, but it's for ADSL and we aren't doing that. Will it still work? Or, do I need a 3600 series router with a HSSI interface? Or, alternately, should I just get that lobotomy I've been considering?? Thanks! John [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=21950t=21742 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19829]
All - I know that emotions are high right now, and energies are in different directions, however: The koran states that suicide is wrong and against God. There are a significant number of desparate people who have inappropraitely decided that killing themselves is the way to achieve a goal, and specific religious factions have pushed them to the breaking point. I am a Zionist and Jewish, and have many friends in Israel. I have Arab and Muslim friends also. Please, do not target all Arabs or Muslims in reaction to this week's actions. Please, become mindful that security in the US has always been too lax and that we as a people need to change this. We need to punish those responsible for this attack and work to prevent future attacks, but attacking innocents and stereotyping cannot show the world our enlightenment as Americans. As to the board's role I will let others moderate that function. I would encourage everyone to work through the anger and fear that they are feeling and channel that energy towards positive ends. Peace. --- hal9001 wrote: Don't you mean the CULT of ALLAH..any so called religion that encourages this mayhem is a one way ticket to hell. Its nothing more than an evil cult! Karl - Original Message - From: John Mairs To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19726] aaammen! Allah be paved! --- ed smith wrote: Respectfully I would say,,, let people blow some steam off! Who the hell cares about CISCO right now? Ed From: Thad Gaston To: ed smith , Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:59:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [12.109.97.147] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBD69252000344136E8170C6D619313EB0; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:56:49 -0700 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:57:36 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] Thread-Index: AcE71YI1yqc/7joNR3ugD6ApyYlA6wAAC/Bg All, I would discourage any further post regarding this topic as it becoming more and more useless and distracting. None of our sentiments are going to bring back the lives of those that have passed on nor bring about the justice the we all would like to see. Let's keep the list on track and get back to what this list is intended for. Regards, Thad Gaston -Original Message- From: ed smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19679] That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! The people we see dancing in the streets of Palestine are brainwashed! The common person in the middle east would give anything to come and live in the U.S. and get out of their hell hole they call home. Believe me, I did 2 years there, it sucks!!! Nothing worth keeping in that part of the World. I don't see all those God forsaken countries having a problem with people wanting to immigrate there! If they believe they are God's chosen people, why didn't he make them from Hawaii, or Switzerland, or some other nice part of this World? They don't have the open airways or free flow of information to make logical decisions. They only believe what their ignorant and jealous leaders tell them. They wanted a Holy War I think they have it,, Holy @!#$ Ahkmed, here comes a Tomahawk missile! Holy @!#$ Al-@!#$, here comes a flights of F-15's!!! Holy @!#$ Al-Khobar, I think I'm going to see Allah! Wait and see brings new meaning to bombs bursting in air. YOU SEEM TWISTED, according to your last email anyway. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] = John L. Mairs __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc
RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
Sorry to be adding to the thread given the large amount of verbiage, but... Guys (gals inferred). Seriously, the certifications are only a validation of one's abilities to pass a test on the specific materials on that certification's exams. Yes, this chap may have gone too far on the CCIE per se, but the reality is that one does not need to know everything to get through the lab. His point, I hope, is that hiring on certifications is about as valuable as hiring on degrees based on the school. Is Yale better than Harvard or Stanford? Maybe, but each has dismissed their share of idiots and geniuses. As such, it would be wrong to make a jump of logic that all CCIEs are valuable to all organizations, just as someone saying an uncertified person is worthless. My only request is that we take the position to heart with a grain of salt, and remember that the certification(s) only represent a part of the person. I, for one, do not introduce myself based on the letters representing my certifications - I introduce me and my abilities, and I would hope that the rest of this group would too. Thanks. --- adam lee wrote: I think the author was either being sarcastic or is just uninformed of what technology really is. I feel bad that I even wasted this much bandwidth discussing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Claybrook Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843] I just ran across this one in Fortune Small Business. Below is an excerpt. The journalist (Larry Seltzer) is attempting to give tips on how to hire technical consultants to do work for your small business. He's talking about how certifications aren't as important as one might think: When looking for qualified help, don't read too much into a consultant's alphabet soup of certifications. They don't signify ability, just as my political science degree doesn't make me your next President. Terms like CCIE (Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert) indicate only successful completion of the program and minimal competence in the product. I wish I knew this guy's email address. Anyway, I thought the group might get a kick out of it. Here's the link in case you want to read the whole thing: http://netbusiness.netscape.com/fsb/features/sp_f_090601_1.psp Don Claybrook CCNP, CCDP (but not yet up to the minimal competence level of CCIE) [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=19147t=18843 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Exam!!!--- - - Stratacom Switches [7:18476]
Yes, my CID text does address the StrataCom, however, I recommend that readers augment this material with CCO. It appears that the test has altered a few questions since the last publication and it would be easiest to bolster the Cisco material as opposed to try and keep up with the errata for each change. Specifically, I would suggest that readers pay attention to the type and quanity of ports available on the platforms - although these questions seem silly as one can quickly go to CCO and look it up. ;) --- Daniel Cotts wrote: I have heard that the Sybex DCN book by Robert Padjen has a section on Stratacom. -Original Message- From: Mr. Oletu Hosea Godswill, CCNA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CID Exam!!!--- - - Stratacom Switches [7:18476] Hi group, Am bill to write my CID exam in 4 days time, am using the cisco press book. However, the book did not give stratacom switches any treament except for a few lines and they test this area heavyly I learnt in the exam. I have done a lot of searches even in CCO but could not locate any white paper on this subject. Please, help with a link or URL where I can get a white paper on this switch. The URL provided in the cisco press book did not help issues and on CCO, the only thing I saw was how Cisco aquire stratacom in 1996, I wonder whether they will ask one that in the exam. Any link will help, please. Also feed me on the last minute check-list on the CID exam. Regards. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=18520t=18476 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward === [7:13243]
All - As an author who has worked closely with Todd I would like to set the record straight, and I will also invite him to join in this discussion. There are three classifications of author - an author, a co-author, and a contributor. CiscoPress adds a fourth - an editor. An author typically writes the most chapters and is responsible for the outline of the book. He or she may read all the materials from others, but not always. A co-author typically writes a few chapters, and may contribute to the outline. Contributors may write up to a chapter, and may contribute advise or other materials (glossary, introduction, etc). Editors typically take material from other sources and combine them. For CID, I wrote the book. Todd provided guidance, the glossary, and the base introduction. We edited it in Dallas, FYI. I am proud of the text, and disappointed to learn that a reader was unhappy with the CCDA book and chose to avoid the CID material as a result. The same is also true - you may love the CCNA text, but that doesn't mean that the Routing book will work for you. Typically we, through Sybex, Syngress, etc., (I am working on a book for Syngress now (AVVID)), try to maintain a consistent level and style, but sometimes the author's background or expertise alters this. In addition, for the certifications, all of us (to my knowledge) have passed the test at least once and many take the test a few times. We also use (based on my experience) sample tests, CCO, the Cisco materials, other's experiences, and feedback from readers. It is permitted to write a book on a subject without attaining the certification related to that test (but you must still pass that one test). As a former journalist, I was forced to learn how to research a topic I knew nothing about and present it, then forget and move on. This skill is very useful in authoring, however, I am greatful to be able to select topics that I know and that are easily augmented with research. Please look at each text as its own work, and select authors based on what works for you. For example, I like to write with lots of 'experience' material and in the third person while others are successful with the first person, just the facts presentation. I test my materials by pre-releasing chapters to a couple of beginner level collegues and having them take the test. If they do well then I wrap it up... if not we try to tweak... CiscoPress is good, depending on the text, and I use them outside of writing a lot. However, these books frequently are best for people who desire less hand-holding. Sybex tends to lead the reader through the process. Both have advantages, and disadvantages. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=13264t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTENTION!!! QOS Gurus [7:11782]
Any QOS is 'managed unfairness,' so you are going to exclude and starve everything else if the link is saturated - which it will be for queueing to take effect. If you are brave take a look at CBWFQ on CCO, however, it requires a very new IOS and is buggy. The alternative is CAR, but this will only allow traffic to a point and then discard anything above that limit, so sizing becomes an issue. The benefit is that it is stable and lower level code. --- Cisco Skin wrote: Cheers everyone. I'm in the process of researching QOS for my 6509/MSFC and am having a biatch of a time. Everything I read is so confusing and I'm getting very frustrated. Here's what I want to do: Ensure that traffic (http/ftp) within my network destined for our parent network, or specific IP at the parent network, get priority over everything else (without starving everyone out of course). Has anyone had to configure this before, and if so, could you please contact me? Thanks in advance, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11804t=11782 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDA after CCNP, How tough???? [7:10960]
Total agreement with the comments regarding the poor quality of the exam, however, I would not expect dramatic benefits from the upgraded examination. The current study materials should get you there for 640-025, and I'd focus away from Stratacom and other 'platform' specifics for the newer exam. --- Sean C. wrote: CID - 100 questions - Passing is 755 Final score based on scale of 300 to 1000 (ie - I think some questions are weighted heavier for scoring purposes). Unlike CCIE written where there are 100 questions and each is worth 1 point. I'm copying an old rant of mine. Check the GroupStudy archives, there are tons of gripes with the CID: Took the CID last week and passed - 2nd attempt. The horror stories you have read about this test are true. The questions have misspellings (VALN instead of VLAN), some answers are written twice, one question address had a third octet of .286., etc. Couple this with the limited study material available and I think it would be wise to wait for the CID 4.0, when, hopefully, there will be more study material available. I used the CiscoPress book and the Boson #1 test. The Lammle book you own has the best section on StrataCom - the questions I had were could all be answered from Lammle's book. I agree with the general concensus: CiscoPress covers 50%, Lammle covers 50% between them you will know about 75% of the test. Good luck, Sean C. CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11021t=10960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
Thanks for the comment about the Sybex book. ;) Note, there is a lot of commenting on the 'lack' of 700 series material on the RA exam. All RA books have this material because it is in the objectives. Cisco can, and does, change material from time to time, and it seems clear that the 700 material was removed in part - be thankful that it did. The platform really is a hybrid, and there is little that the 800 or 1600 cannot provide for a reasonable price/performance. Please do not be upset with the authors re the 700 material. We base the books on the objectives and our experiences. --- Raees Ahmed Shaikh wrote: This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that. Perhaps you are talking about the real jet net. No flames, -Original Message- From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hi Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930. He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and Switching in 9 min a score of 870. Regards Jayesh Patel CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice Access Solutions. - Original Message - From: hal9001 To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router offerings. The IDG I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also to find other information omitted by another publisher/author. The future gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs. After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of the Exam Objectives. Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so best to cover ALL the bases if you can. Karl - Original Message - From: Michael L. Williams To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794] Hello all.. Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of vague questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some comments and finished in 35 minutes. One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different models had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried to take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more questions about Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port than I did about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were so many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so few questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON for making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real exams but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I was practicing for it. Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking and passing exams motivates me to keep going! Mike W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=10817t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed the CCIE written by accident-should I retake? [7:9737]
I'd enjoy passing the hurdle and getting past a horrible examination that has little to do with the lab or modern networking. Study hard for the tough part, and congrats. --- Nate Vanderschaaf wrote: Since I realized I would never feel ready for the CCIE, I figured the best way to prepare for the CCIE written was to take it once, try to get a feel for the subject material, topics and format, then go home, study anything that was a total surprise, and take it again. ($300 for the test, instead of $3000 for a class). Trouble is, I passed the test-- barely. I got a 70%, the absolute minimum passing score. I realize the lab is challenging, and since it's at least 6 months out for me (full schedule in NC and CA), I'm trying to figure out if there's a good reason to retake the written. I did notice that you need to submit your score when logging in to the Lab scheduling system. BTW, I thought the CCIE written was too easy and too difficult at the same time. I really don't see the need to have memorized tons of TokenRing bridging techniques in today's Ethernet world, but concurrently, I would have liked to be more challenged with OSPF and BGP questions, things that are critical to today's Internet world. I wonder how many people on this newsgroup realize that ARIN has allowed backbone carriers to only advertise /20 bits to BGP peers and how this threatens the integrity of the 'net? (Also hats off to uu.net for continuing on with /24! Damn you sprint!) Congratulations to anyone who has worked hard to learn internetworking. Certified or not. Nate Vanderschaaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9737t=9737 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aironet 350 bridge questions [7:9094]
The WBR allows up to 8 devices - still a small number. The 350 added in-line power and 100mw transmit features to the 340, but little else. The BSE units, which may be part of the WBR but I don't think so, add DHCP server and NAT to the offering. I have the 340, which is great for my needs, but DLINK and SCM both offer APs with more features and lower prices. (If you want to work on Cisco get the Aironet and the best basic product, and if you want CompUSA home features get the others). ;) --- Joel Freeman wrote: The 350 are superior to the 340 in the area of power transmitted, but you have to be aware that Cisco WORKGROUP bridges are jsut for small workgroups. I believe that they only allow 3-4 machines to use the bridge. That is the reason for the lower ($500) price versus the full 350 bridge at $1400. If it has WBR in the part number , then it is limited to 3-4 machine. Joel Lurker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I have a few questions regarding the Aironet 350 workgroup bridges and I haven't yet found the answers on CCO. I'm connecting building to building via Aironet. 1. Is the 350 series good for this? From what I can, find the 350 series appears to be superior to the 340 series. However, I'm being told by a design guy that the 350 bridges won't connect building to building. His opinion doesn't appear to be accurate. Furthermore, the 350 series workgroup bridges are $499 vs $1,499 for the 340 workgroup bridge. Is this because of limited ability or aggressive pricing by Cisco? 2. The 350 workgroup bridge documentation at http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/350wgbr.htm shows the workgroup bridge being connected to the network via an access point. Is this the proper configuration for building to building? I've seen 340 series workgroup bridge kits that are designed to connect buildings via bridge to bridge (not using an access point). 3. Can the 350 workgroup bridge be powered from a regular power adapter as well as from the ethernet cable? Thank you very much for your help! Michael Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=9123t=9094 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Express forwarding and Memory Requirements --- Please [7:8894]
Couple of items: CEF is a very low overhead process and, in terms of CPU and memory, you should be fine. I am not as certain that your intentions to use the MAC address of the router as a filter point will work. Typically you use an IP extended ACL for CAR. Also review how routers filter outbound traffic. --- Hamid wrote: Hi I have a C2600 router with 32 MB of memory connected to my backbone. This router should share the bandwidth among three Cisco routers connected through the LAN (Fast-Ethernet ports). For example, a 3 Mbps bandwidth should be shared between these routers so the traffic going through each of these routers should be limited to 1 Mbps. I wanted to use CAR using the MAC address of the Fast-Ethernet ports to limit the bandwidth for each router, but I had to enable CEF on the Ethernet interface. I not sure what performance impacts would CEF cause on the C2600 router and I was wondering if the C2600 router could handle this. I am not sure if I am using the best solution, so it would be appreciated if I could have your advice. Thanks In advance Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=8894t=8894 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vlans - maximum no of devices [7:8128]
I don't remember this specific question, and this may be the 'Cisco' answer, but... A VLAN is a broadcast domain. As such, one can have as many devices as their IP addressing (or other protocol) scheme will allow within the limitations of the MAC/CAM table of the switch and the ARP table of the router. This is at least 1K and I think is 8K on the 5500 per VLAN. In addition, there are over 1000 VLANs available on the Cat5500/6500 platform, not counting the hidden ones. So, technically, one could get really big numbers - much bigger than 'the right answer.' In practice, with NetBIOS services, a max of 200 nodes per broadcast domain is advised, and performance can start to drop at the 30 VLAN level. Your experience may vary. ;) --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: Congratulations on passing! However, it is wise to distinguish between Cisco's answers and the Truth :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William E. Gragido Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vlans - maximum no of devices [7:8128] Each Vlan can accomadate 254 with each switch accomadating a max of 256 devices...its was on my Switching exam todayI passed ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Haller Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vlans - maximum no of devices [7:8128] If I remember correctly, each VLAN is it's own subnet. And therefore, if each vlan is it's own subnet, you can only have 254 devices attached to each subnet. You may wanna check that on CCO. --- John Kale wrote: hi all, I read somewhere that there can only be a maximum of 254 devices in a vlan. I'm currently redesigning a network that would have a vlan containing about 300 devices. Is the 254 restriction a design one? Please can someone enlighting me on this issue. regards, Tunde _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Chris from Chicago MasterCNE, 5.x CNE, ICNE, 4.x CNE, CCNA, MCP __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=8772t=8128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
If you look at the objectives for the exam and all of the books, each spend a lot of effort on the 700 series. The beta and live exams that I've seen had a lot (roughly 10). It would appear that with the death of the product line they've killed the questions too. ;) --- Michael L. Williams wrote: Hello all.. Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today. not a bad exam. A couple of vague questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct answer but only one answer was asked for). Even took time to write some comments and finished in 35 minutes. One HUGE gripe: The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700. The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice). I had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. BOTH books had a single, small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and takes a WIC card. THAT'S IT! I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different models had (something neither book had any details about). Lucky for me I tried to take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more questions about Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port than I did about the Cisco 700. I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were so many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them I can't believe the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so few questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600! KUDOS TO BOSON for making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real exams but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their own study book (Cisco!). I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600 questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I was practicing for it. Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP Woohoo! Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking and passing exams motivates me to keep going! Mike W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7804t=7794 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Layer3 switch vs Router [7:7406]
How 'bout $.03? If you look at the newest Cisco announcements, its clear that the GSR and 6500 technology will replace the legacy 75xx and other high-end router platforms. These systems, depending on firmware, will use hardware based CEF, which will negate the MLS flow establishment process. In addition, with the FlexWAN technology, Cisco is trying to steer a course that places the 6500 and 7600 (a 6500 on its side) in distribution and core layer WAN, with the GSR serving IP backbone/transit. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=7617t=7406 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question on CDP [7:6396]
Actually, it can't. ATM is not supported. It is a simple L2 protocol. --- cheekin wrote: Hi, Cisco documents state that CDP can run on all media that support SNAP. Does anyone know why? Thanks. Regards, cheekin FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6482t=6396 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6481]
JunOS... JunOS... (just kidding) IOS... IOS... --- MIRSKY Carl wrote: MM PROZAC!! -Original Message- From: Charlie Hartwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6386] In closing... so since I am Unix, (Solaris), experienced and certified, AND Microsoft experienced and certified, does this mean I need to run out and get some Prozac right quick I think, maybe, that an overdose of Prozac may have contributed to the start of this whole argument --- Jon Krabbenschmidt wrote: This reminds me of an argument my two boys, 3 and 5, had earlier this week. On swore that their bike was faster. I tried to explain that there is the length of legs, mechanics of the bikes, and age, (experience), that added to the difference. I was making the point that the bikes, though physically different, were in the end basically the same, (different platforms that achieve the same purpose). Well I ended up walking away. Last time I checked this was a group that was focused on network engineering. Hummm this is OS independent. Seems to me our job is taking all the stuff Sys Admins have, and all the stuff that Infrastructure has, and all the stuff internal support has, and make it talk. We don't care whether it is Unix, NT, CPM, Apple, or an old VIC20. Our job is to make the stuff play well together. My hat goes off to Alan and Peter, as well as some others, for their very civilized, and educational discourse on BGP/OSPF. I can only hope to be where these people are some day. In closing... so since I am Unix, (Solaris), experienced and certified, AND Microsoft experienced and certified, does this mean I need to run out and get some Prozac right quick Jon -Original Message- From: Shawn Goodson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6378] With all that extra money maybe you could get a writing class, or a spell checker ? - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: Re: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6335] Oh yeah?! I'm win2000 roll out project manager for a fortune 500 company. I make $150 per hour. Hope you can figure out, SMART Unix guy. And Chuck, no problem. I just don't like some people (like SMART Russ) knows a little than others then show off that much. --- Russ Kreigh wrote: We look down upon you because you have to brag about how much you make. - Original Message - From: Jim Bond To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: another OT: why you UNIX guys look down on we NT guys? [7:6323] UNIX guys, I make $240K per year, how much you make? Why you guys look down on us??? I don't get it... Jim NT guy Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=6481t=6481 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]
Chuck - I always enjoy the positions you present. You are correct, although I am concerned with the posture that a CCIE is an expert-regardless of the title on the certification. My issue is that an expert would know better than to create a small network with OSPF, RIP, BGP, EIGRP and IGRP, while then killing themselves to fix it. In the same vain, a test, and success on that test, would at best show mastery of the materials on that test. The hard and soft skills needed to be an expert in this field are well beyond any certification exam. For example, I work as an expert witness in legal matters. I carry the title 'expert' as I am knowledgeable, certified, published and practiced in the area of expertise. Even with all this, I need to learn and integrate legal concepts and technical ones in order to do the job well. My perception of the CCIE (and other certs) is that many networkers feel that its a one-time deal. I got a 840/1000 - I'm hot *$@. ;) This is the construct that bothers me the most. In the absence of a better alternative it's what we have, but it still concerns me and I think as an industry we can do better. --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: As someone who has devoted a bit of time and more than a couple of dollars pursuing certification, and as someone who has failed one lab attempt, and as someone who collects good advice from CCIE's and others, I can no longer resist opening my big mouth on this. The CCIE Lab exam is a test. Nothing more. Nothing less. It has nothing to do with good practice. It has nothing to do with real world. Consider: Cisco wants you to be able to redistribute between any two protocols. How do you test this, given the constraints of the lab? Cisco wants you to understand routing protocol behaviour. How do you test that? Do bizarre redistribution requirements and constraints provide just such a means? Cisco wants you to understand the implications of NMBA on Cisco routers. How do you test that? Cisco wants you to understand how OSPF works? How do you test that, particularly in conjunction with NMBA? Cisco wants you to understand how routing works. How do you test a candidate's real understanding if you can fake your way through by using static routes? Cisco wants you to understand a number of alternative solutions to a number of problems. So they create scenarios which require a number of __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5968t=5725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]
My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many are old, poorly written, irrelevant to production environments, simple (low percentage of redundancy or complex scenario questions) and an overall difficulty not related to technological issues but grammar, construct and marketing. As such, passing proves that you can do one thing - pass the test. It doesn't mean that you can troubleshoot, design, deploy or manage anything. Is Erlang-B important in routing and switching? Is knowing the port density on the Z series router valuable when the product was replaced two years ago? It's not sour grapes - I'm certified. But, its on the last page of my resume, and its not who I am. I'm me, and I happen to be certified. Its not I'm certified (along with X others) and I'm one of many. Also, I know a lot of people who will not disclose their certs, including CCIE, unless asked. It's being humble. I don't think that anyone is incapable of passing the X test/exam. Its a matter of time, money, pain and desire. A lot of great people in this industry are great because they are good - not because a test told the world that they were. --- Donald B Johnson jr wrote: I don't agree, people who write technically, their reputation is centered around how accurate their writing is, and where mistakes are made how quickly they fix those errors. I don't see where failing a test, would invalidate anyone's writing or lessen their reputation. The quoted explanation may be true I am not disputing that, it probably is a factor, I just think it is unfounded. - Original Message - From: Kevin Schwantz To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco employee told me that these people have everything to lose and nothing to gain if they take the CCIE exam. If they refrain from taking the tests, their reputation stays intact. If they take the test and fail, people will start to question their credibility. Kevin Morabito Joe wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I want to ask a question to those already CCIEs. Is it really worth it? Don't get me wrong, I love the work and the learning. I actually plan to take the lab by july of next year, but how has your life changed since obtaining your ccie? Was it what you expected? Better or worse? Please share your life experience after reaching the big goal. Personally I can't wait to achieve CCIE status. Thanks. Joe Morabito FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5799t=5725 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756]
I agree, but I think that the consistency is the thing. The written is 'newer' and yet it is poorly aligned with anything real. Erlang-B for R/S? RIF fields? Where's multicast, EIGRP-BGP redistributions, VOIP, WCCP, etc.? It's not just new stuff either - some questions were bad on day one. I am hopeful that someday Cisco will ask us to help them develop a 'real' exam that is challenging not because of its grammar, incorrect answers, hidden information and adgenda, but rather is hard because of its depth on relevant topics. --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: It's a question of timing. In the written they ask you 100 questions. There's more opportunity to cover many topics. All the topics are technologies that you may encounter in your life as a Cisco engineer. (Although some are fading quickly, of course. But tests aren't dynamic. It takes months to produce a new version.) In the lab, you have just a day of configuring and a day of troubleshooting. They need to test you on the most important technologies. It would be a shame if you were required to spend an hour on DECnet at the expense of not having enough time to do a BGP problem, for example. Priscilla At 02:52 PM 5/24/01, you wrote: I agree you should know how to do that stuff but I think the written and the lab should coincide. - Original Message - From: Darren Crawford To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:04 PM Subject: Re: CCIE written is outdated. [7:5756] Because as a CCIE you should know how to do this stuff. ;^) D. At 01:04 PM 05/24/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following have been removed from the lab. Why haven't the been removed from the CCIE written? LAT, DECnet, Apollo, Banyan VINES, ISO CLNS, XNS, ATM LANE, and X.25. Effective February 1, 2001, Appletalk will also be removed from the lab exam content. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx Darren S. Crawford Network Systems Consultant Lucent Technologies - Sacramento email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] page via email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pager: 800-467-1467 x$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$xx$:0`0:$x$:0`0:$xx FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=5802t=5756 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]
Yes, just like military experience, the certifications can augment the 'experience' one brings to the table. But, if I read correctly, we're saying that the cert. gets you in the door, just as a BA or MBA would... --- Kane, Christopher A. wrote: I agree that a Cert is not necessarily who you are. I also agree that a Cert doesn't mean you can troubleshoot nor does it mean that you are capable of designing something that is clean and easily supportable. But, I feel the Cert does have a value. It shows that you took the time to learn what someone (presumably the vendor) suggested that you learn in order to better understand the capabilities of their product. It shows that you've made the effort to learn things that you don't normally deal with on a day-to-day basis. If you are willing to constantly learn and grow not only adds to your value as an employee, but also as a person. Further, for those of us who did not finish school, it hopefully keeps the recruiter from shutting the door in our face. I have had a great time in the 4 years that I have been in this field. I've received recognition from not only my peers and immediate management, but also from senior directors. I've gained vast amounts of experience, starting at the NOC level and working up through the higher levels of support and engineering. Experience along with the Cert/s, should allow me to at least talk to the IT group of a potential new employer so that I may demonstrate what I am capable of. I've seen things on this list that concern me. Such as HR personnel preferring to talk to a CCNA rather than a CCNP because they've been told to find the CCNA and are not aware of what a CCNP is. Until I can finish school, my chances of gaining new employment (should I seek it) could be greatly diminished without something else to show, such as the Cert. A degree doesn't guarantee that you are a quality employee, nor does a Cert. But I need all the ammo I can amass should the time come that I have to polish the resume and start knocking on doors. Maybe the CCIE does contain some outdated material and maybe it could use some tweaking, regardless, my major concern lies on the dependence of Cisco to help maintain that certification on the level of respect that it currently holds. Thanks for the thread, this is a great discussion. I enjoy hearing the opinions of other technicians/engineers. Christopher A. Kane, CCNP Senior Network Control Tech Router Ops Center/Hilliard NOC UUNET (614)723-7877 -Original Message- From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many are old, poorly written, irrelevant to production environments, simple (low percentage of redundancy or complex scenario questions) and an overall difficulty not related to technological issues but grammar, construct and marketing. As such, passing proves that you can do one thing - pass the test. It doesn't mean that you can troubleshoot, design, deploy or manage anything. Is Erlang-B important in routing and switching? Is knowing the port density on the Z series router valuable when the product was replaced two years ago? It's not sour grapes - I'm certified. But, its on the last page of my resume, and its not who I am. I'm me, and I happen to be certified. Its not I'm certified (along with X others) and I'm one of many. Also, I know a lot of people who will not disclose their certs, including CCIE, unless asked. It's being humble. I don't think that anyone is incapable of passing the X test/exam. Its a matter of time, money, pain and desire. A lot of great people in this industry are great because they are good - not because a test told the world that they were. --- Donald B Johnson jr wrote: I don't agree, people who write technically, their reputation is centered around how accurate their writing is, and where mistakes are made how quickly they fix those errors. I don't see where failing a test, would invalidate anyone's writing or lessen their reputation. The quoted explanation may be true I am not disputing that, it probably is a factor, I just think it is unfounded. - Original Message - From: Kevin Schwantz To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] Did you know that many of the top Cisco engineers are not CCIE qualified? I have always wondered why people like Sam Halabi and the likes do not get certified.A Cisco employee told me that these people have everything to lose and nothing to gain
RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725]
Louie - First congratulations. I think that, from what I know of the lab, there is a greater disconnect between the items on the lab and the real-world than your posting would reflect. This is not to say that there is no coorelation - rather it is thinner than some of us would like. I'm embarrased when CCIEs can't explain how to use the ARP and CAM tables to find a top talker, or when they can't implement redundancy in OSPF areas. The ones who can typically report that the lab (and its prep) had little to do with their knowledge in these areas. No exam can be everything, and I agree completely that the CCIE is one of the better ones, but I won't hire ANYONE because of the letters after their name - CCIE included. It's impressive, but only within the context of the challenge of the exam. --- Louie Belt wrote: I respectfully disagree with some of your assertions. The CCIE cert does demonstrate that you have an ability to troubleshoot a network, it also demonstrates your ability to build a complex network without leaving out the details. That's why the CCIE is different from almost any other cert. The lab goes past theory and forces practical application of that theory. Additionally, it forces you to demonstrate an ability to handle unknown scenarios in a timely manner and under extreme pressure. As for my opinion of whether it's worth it - I must say it absolutely is!! Louie Belt CCIE #7054 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kane, Christopher A. Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] I agree that a Cert is not necessarily who you are. I also agree that a Cert doesn't mean you can troubleshoot nor does it mean that you are capable of designing something that is clean and easily supportable. But, I feel the Cert does have a value. It shows that you took the time to learn what someone (presumably the vendor) suggested that you learn in order to better understand the capabilities of their product. It shows that you've made the effort to learn things that you don't normally deal with on a day-to-day basis. If you are willing to constantly learn and grow not only adds to your value as an employee, but also as a person. Further, for those of us who did not finish school, it hopefully keeps the recruiter from shutting the door in our face. I have had a great time in the 4 years that I have been in this field. I've received recognition from not only my peers and immediate management, but also from senior directors. I've gained vast amounts of experience, starting at the NOC level and working up through the higher levels of support and engineering. Experience along with the Cert/s, should allow me to at least talk to the IT group of a potential new employer so that I may demonstrate what I am capable of. I've seen things on this list that concern me. Such as HR personnel preferring to talk to a CCNA rather than a CCNP because they've been told to find the CCNA and are not aware of what a CCNP is. Until I can finish school, my chances of gaining new employment (should I seek it) could be greatly diminished without something else to show, such as the Cert. A degree doesn't guarantee that you are a quality employee, nor does a Cert. But I need all the ammo I can amass should the time come that I have to polish the resume and start knocking on doors. Maybe the CCIE does contain some outdated material and maybe it could use some tweaking, regardless, my major concern lies on the dependence of Cisco to help maintain that certification on the level of respect that it currently holds. Thanks for the thread, this is a great discussion. I enjoy hearing the opinions of other technicians/engineers. Christopher A. Kane, CCNP Senior Network Control Tech Router Ops Center/Hilliard NOC UUNET (614)723-7877 -Original Message- From: Robert Padjen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is it really worth it? CCIE [7:5725] My $.02. I have always been disenchanted with the certifications offered and I would like to believe that some others in the industry feel the same. This may be the case here. Basically, look at the certification tests. Many are old, poorly written, irrelevant to production environments, simple (low percentage of redundancy or complex scenario questions) and an overall difficulty not related to technological issues but grammar, construct and marketing. As such, passing proves that you can do one thing - pass the test. It doesn't mean that you can troubleshoot, design, deploy or manage anything. Is Erlang-B important in routing and switching? Is knowing the port density on the Z series router valuable when the product was replaced two years ago? It's not sour grapes - I'm
Re: CID Exam - Information? [7:4341]
Augment the Sybex book with Cisco Web information on the StrataCom platforms - capabilities, protocols, etc. It might be worth five-percent of your interests. Otherwise, assuming that you've taken the CCNP and DCN exams, it should give you everything you need. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Ouellette) wrote: I recently read the cisco course book (CID 2.0) and found that most of the topics discussed were a review of mosttly routing/desktop protocols. I have just started the Sybex CID book and it follows the same. I was wondering if both of these materials cover all the stuff that I would need to know for this exam. Could anyone point me to some URL's on Cisco that really help for this test or maybe even some pointers (without breaking the NDA *grin*) Thanks so much. Tim FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4357t=4341 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE or CCDA. CID [7:3795]
My recommendation would be to take the CCDA and CID exams and obtian the two new certs, while at the same time using that material to help prepare for the CCIE written. Lab schedules are almost six MONTHS out, so even if you pass the written today you are looking at a long wait. In addition, remember that 80% of first time CCIE R/S lab candidates FAIL... While they are different tests, the prep will help. As to jobs - it's a difference between you and another applicant, but a number of HR departments fail to understand the CCDP. Regardless, my personal opinion is to never let a certification represent you anyways - you are Joe Schmoe and you happen to be a CCNP... --- Kevin Wigle wrote: Depends on where you are now. I'm very poor with names so I don't know - are you already CCNP? If you are then I would do the DA/CID since maybe everything is fresh. If you're a CCNP, I think that you should be able to study and take the DA/CID exams in about a month and have another cert. If you're not then I don't know your personal history and whether CCIE written is possible is something you'll have to say. Lots of Token Ring and bridging stuff might be new to you even if you are CCNP. As has been said on this list recently, CCIE written is not a certification - but if you are NP then DA/CID gives you a new cert - CCDP. That may or may not be important to you at this time but there are a lot fewer CCDPs around than CCNPs and it could be a clincher for some positions. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: CCIE or CCDA. CID [7:3795] Hi All, Can you guys advice what to do first CCIE written or go for the CCDA, CID. Regards, Tarry -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=3846t=3795 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How's the new CID test [7:2132]
The beta was poorly written and had a slightly different focus than the old exam. For example, I do not recall StrataCom technologies on the beta. However, at this point I think it is premature to assume what will be on the live test as, I don't think, we have the objectives. The old study guides are probably good for 60-70% of the new test, with the caveat that we don't completely know the new test! ;) Good luck. --- Arthur Stewart wrote: I will be taking the CID test pretty soon and was wondering what it was like. I noted that the beta test scores seem to be out and in the past, many energized comments have been made about the previous CID test and the new CID beta (post-test/pre-score). Since it seems possible that Cisco got an earful on how the test could be improved, I was interested in: 1. What is the flavor of the new test compared to the old? 2. Have the categories changed and what are they? 3. What are the best study resources? Thanks, Arthur Stewart CCNP FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2141t=2132 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question RE: Windows XP and Catalyst 5000 Issues ... [7:1053]
For those not familiar with the original problem. Supervisor 1 and 2 models are most likely to have EARLs in this range - Sup IIIs typically have EARL 2 with NFFC-2. Check your system - and seriously consider the upgrade of CatOS. 'Be careful out there!' Cisco Security Advisory: Catalyst 5000 Series 802.1x Vulnerability = Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2001 April 16 at 1500 UTC Summary === When an 802.1x frame is received by an affected Catalyst 5000 series switch on a STP blocked port it is forwarded in that VLAN instead of being dropped. This causes a performance impacting 802.1x frames network storm in that part of the network, which is made up of the affected Catalyst 5000 series switches. This network storm only subsides when the source of the 802.1x frames is removed or one of the workarounds in the workaround section is applied. This vulnerability can be exploited to produce a denial of service (DoS) attack. This vulnerability is described in Cisco bug id CSCdt62732. This notice will be posted at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml Affected Products = Cisco Catalyst 5000 series switches based on any of the following EARL (Encoded Address Recognition Logic) hardware revisions: * EARL 1 * EARL 1+ * EARL 1++ and running any of the following switch software revisions: * 4.5 (11) or earlier * 5.5 (6) or earlier * 6.1 (2) or earlier are affected by this vulnerability. This series includes the Catalyst models 5000, 5002, 5500, 5505, 5509, 2901, 2902 and 2926 switches. To determine your hardware and software revision type sh mod on the console prompt of the switch. Products Not Affected = Catalyst 5000 series switches based on EARL 2 or later hardware revisions are not affected by this vulnerability. Catalyst 5000 series switches regardless of the EARL hardware revision, running the following switch software revisions * 4.5 (12) or later - expected general availability before 2001, May 1 * 5.5 (7) or later * 6.1 (3) or later are not affected by this vulnerability. No other Cisco product is currently known to be affected by this vulnerability. This includes the Catalyst 6000, 4000, 3500XL, 2900XL and 2948G switches. Details === When an 802.1x (IEEE standard for port based network access control) frame is received by an affected Catalyst 5000 series switch on a STP (Spanning Tree Protocol) blocked port it is forwarded in that VLAN (Virtual Local Area Network) instead of being dropped. This causes a performance impacting 802.1x frames network storm in that part of the network, which is made up of the affected Catalyst 5000 series switches. This network storm only subsides when the source of the 802.1x frames is removed or one of the workarounds in the workaround section is applied. The vulnerability is documented as Cisco bug id CSCdt62732. Impact == When an affected Catalyst 5000 series switch network receives an 802.1x frame it causes an 802.1x frames network storm. This network storm degrades the performance of the network. Slower ports on the affected Catalyst 5000 series switches may stop passing user data. The affected Catalyst 5000 series switches may not respond to any management inquiries via SNMP, Telnet or HTTP. However, management via the console port on the switches is still possible and can be used to apply the workarounds. Software Versions and Fixes === This vulnerability has been fixed in the following switch software revisions * 4.5 (12) or later - expected availability before 2001, May 1 * 5.5 (7) or later * 6.1 (3) or later and the fix will be carried forward in all future releases. Software upgrade can be performed via the console interface. Obtaining Fixed Software Cisco is offering free software upgrades to remedy this vulnerability for all affected customers. Customers with service contracts may upgrade to any software release. Customers may install only the feature sets they have purchased. Fixed software is currently available except where noted. Customers with contracts should obtain upgraded software through their regular update channels. For most customers, this means that upgrades should be obtained via Cisco's Software Center at http://www.cisco.com/. Customers without contracts or warranty should get their upgrades by contacting the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) as shown below: * (800) 553-2447 (toll-free in North America) * +1 408 526 7209 (toll call from anywhere in the world) * e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/687/Directory.shtml for additional TAC contact information, including instructions and e-mail addresses for use in various languages. Give the URL of this notice as
Re: Change EIGRP routing path [7:1048]
Delay is used in most of the organizations that I'm familiar with, however, the obvious question is why do you wish to do this? Also, remember that this will force a query during the process. --- Dove wrote: Hi all, My network is running EIGRP routing protocol. I want to force the routing path so that the routing will not go through the shortest path (e.g. force the route from "R1" to "R3" which must go through "R2" and "R4"). What is the proper way to do so? Should I change the parameter "BANDWIDTH", "DELAY" or others? R1 10 R2 | | | | 10 10 | | R3 10 R4 Thanks. dovelet FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1056t=1048 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! Cisco Internetworking Design test?? [7:682]
HEY!!! Todd may have his name on the cover and the series, but I did have a little something to do with the Sybex CID book!!! Like writing 13 chapters! Thanks for the complements, although I strongly recommend that readers review the Cisco Web site for the StrataCom material. If the beta is an indication, the new test will be as bad as the one it replaces. While I passed (I don't know the numbers), I also wrote seven pages worth of comments on the test and likely screamed twice. It is unfortunate that Cisco cannot improve upon this test. We are currently discussing a second edition for CID, although it seems that either frustration with the exam or lack of interest is impacting the number of canidates. We've enjoyed solid sales thus far, but the number of CCDPs is still VERY low relative to the other certs. Surprises me a great deal - but I've always enjoyed design. --- "Sean C." wrote: Hi Andy, Took the CID last week and passed - 2nd attempt. The horror stories you have read about this test are true. The questions have misspellings (VALN instead of VLAN), some answers are written twice, one question address had a third octet of .286., etc. Couple this with the limited study material available and I think it would be wise to wait for the CID 4.0, when, hopefully, there will be more study material available. I used the CiscoPress book and the Boson #1 test. The Lammle book you own has the best section on StrataCom - the questions I had were could all be answered from Lammle's book. I agree with the general concensus: CiscoPress covers 50%, Lammle covers 50% between them you will know about 75% of the test. Good luck, Sean CCNP, CCDP, MCSE ""AndyD"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Can anyone give me any advice in how to prepare for the CID test? I've heard nothing but horror stories on the poor quality of the test, vague questions, poorly worded questions, etc. I've got Todd Laemmle's book, but it seems pretty superficial. I've got a Boson practice test, but it's all over the map. Could someone who has taken the test give me some recommendations please? Thanks, AD FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=750t=682 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP and OSPF
SIN typically refers to EIGRP's support for AT, IPX and IP routing with isolation between them on the wire - a different table and hello/update process runs for each. OSPF and EIGRP can run on routers concurrently, however, administrative distance will effectively kill duplicate routes. Summarization and other techniques to control routes can allow both to effectively run on the same wire/domain, but then we get to 'why?' I hope this is a lab question or an overlay centric IGP migration... ;) --- Fred Danson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a sec, I thought ships in the night meant that 2 ROUTED protocols are running concurrently without knowledge of eachother. Running 2 routing protocols has nothing to do with ships in the night, right? Fred From: "Raul F. Fernandez" Reply-To: "Raul F. Fernandez" To: "Thomas" , Subject: RE: EIGRP and OSPF Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:42:55 -0400 Yes you can .they are ships in the night. The never see each other. Raul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thomas Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: EIGRP and OSPF Hi All - Is it possible to have both EIGRP and OSPF installed on a single router? Just trying to get rid of the RIP here. Thanks All! Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID BETA
I thank Priscilla for her candor on this topic. I for
one was pretty livid with the exam, and I wrote over
seven pages of comments to the Cisco team both through
the exam comments feature and off-line. Specifically I
was disappointed that the questions were poorly
crafted, afforded few solid answers, and many were
flat-out wrong.
It is further disappointing that Cisco has failed to
take advantage of this forum and others like it to
improve the quality of their product from a technical
perspective, much like one would expect a better level
set with enterprise and service provider customers to
develop the program further.
--- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe they laid off the people working on it. Just
kidding. Seriously, the
Cisco training department has always worked at about
1/100,000,000 the
speed of Internet time.
Analyzing the results of a beta test is
time-consuming, though, and
sometimes there are arguments on the meaning of the
results. The test
writers must go through and weed out questions that
everyone got right,
even the obvious newbies. (Newbies and experts are
defined by the test
results, so it's an iterative process.) They must
eliminate questions that
nobody got right. They must eliminate questions that
the newbies got right
but the experts got wrong. Then they have to rescore
the beta results.
If they eliminated too many questions, they have to
add new ones. This must
be done with care since the new questions won't go
through the same beta
test. Then, they must make sure the course matches
the test.
Still, I agree that it's egregious that it has taken
14 weeks.
Priscilla
At 02:22 PM 3/25/01, F.G.J. Ruiz-Alaniz wrote:
Anyone know who we can call at Cisco? Speaking to
Prometric is a
waste of time because they blame Cisco (this from
past experience with
them).
Not to spread rumors, but I think this is related
to them not having
published the updated CID 4.0 class yet. I can't
find any mention of
it anywhere. Beta exams from other companies are
not this bad, I've
never even had one from Novell, Microsoft, or
CompTIA take more than 8
weeks for me to get my report in the mail.
Well, I'll continue waiting...
On 25 Mar 2001 09:56:29 -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("GNOME") wrote:
14 weeks and still waiting
"Tim Noonan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
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Hi. Has anyone got the results from the CID
beta test yet?
I have taken several beta test and this is the
longest I have had to wait
for the results.
Thanks,
Tim
Ps. Please cc me with any reply becuase I don't
have access to the mailing
list right now.
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Re: Hi folks, I've been thinking about Cisco as an investment.
All - Cisco is a great company. It has one of the best developed business models in the world. Their products afford a well-rounded feature set that is first rate. ARE YOU INSANE!!! ;) Let's see. CSCO is trading at a P/E of just over 45. Companies normally trade in the area of 30, and WorldCom, etc., are at 10-15. Thus, Cisco is overvalued by 50%, and historically would price at $12/share if they were a normal company. OK, they're not, so a slight premium would be warranted (where that is between $12-18/share is unknown, but we'd likely be near the top of the range). Further, Cisco is recording P/E (price/earnings) on last quarters numbers, which could be 30% BETTER than this quarters. A lowering of up to 30% could warrant a price range of $10-14/share to hold the same P/E ratio. Since the next two quarters appear down, and lowering is more likely, you would view this as a bargin why? ;) In addition, Cisco is the largest holding of most money market funds. As the price increases it would be likely that they will sell to diversify. Look, I like the company. I think very long term they will be an IBM or a Microsoft. But short term, with any stock, don't allow a lower price than yesterday to be a measure of a bargin. If I believed that any/all of us would save Cisco with our thousand share buys I'd likely be a bit more positive, but since the loss will hurt us MUCH more than the aggrigate company or economy, please save your capital and do the analysis before investing! Kidding about the insane thing BTW. Now, for a really good investment, the Bank of Rob is taking deposits, cash only please! --- ItsMe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myself and a few others are buying. Same story as yourself couldn't afford it before. As for going to hell in a hand basket; if Cisco went down the tubes, there would be many other things you would be worried about then the money you would be investing with now. (i.e. radiation poising from the Nuclear War :-) just my opinion "Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi gang, this is a little off topic but... I've been watching the stock price of Cisco drop from where it was to where it is now, and have been agonizing over the fact that I can actually afford some. Reading the Analyst Consensus on various sites and Cnbc it seems like we're going to hell in a hand basket. The insight that I need is, Is it slowing down as bad as they tell us? What is the life span of the average router, warranty? How often are routers, switches, etc. replaced? Is Cisco a bad investment right now? You folks are out in the trenches so any help or insight that you can offer is a help. Thanks -- Natasha Flazynski http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whew! Can you smell that VLan?
I cannot speak to the 3500 series, but in the Cat 5000/6000 line, you span a port to either copy the contents of a port or an entire VLAN. The membership of the port that has the Sniffer is moot in this instance. It is further possible, although I can't think of too many good reasons to do this, that you can set the switch to receive packets from the Sniffer, which would allow use of the port membership VLAN in addition to the receipt of frames from the span process. In essence you would get two VLANs in one, but, again, :( Typically I set the span port to a 'defunct' VLAN with no other members and no representation on the RSM/MSFC. I may see BPDUs and CDP packets, but the majority will be the traffic I desire. --- "The.rock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the 3500 Catalyst series will even let you monitor ports on other switches if you want. Check into it, but I think you can. ""NetEng"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 99bbkk$p8a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:99bbkk$p8a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We have had a pissing match lately and here's the details. One person states that a VLan can not be sniffed because it is on a different subnet. The other person says it can becuase it's physically on the same switch. I think you can to a point. Here's what I mean; let's say we have a 3524 with two Vlans, VLAN1 (we'll call it InfoSys), and VLAN2 (called HR). If I have a sniffer running on InfoSys, I should be able to sniff traffic on my subnet as well as traffic from HR to InfoSys (ie HR employee accessing mail server on InfoSys), right? The only difference is that the source MAC address would change. I should not be able to sniff traffic local to HR (ie an employee accessing accounting software) right? What's the rub? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I believe that there are two distinctions that should be made - and that you may disagree with. At least for the bachelors degree, the experience is just that - well beyond the actual academics. In addition, the focus of the GE portion of the program is to diversify - humanities, science, language, amongst others. This is one of the limitations to the Cisco (and other) certifications as the certifications present a myopic view. The second distinction is that I would contend neither represents more than the sum of its components, and that value is perceived. For example, if I graduated Stanford with a 2.1 GPA, as opposed to San Diego State with a 4.0, which school would be a better hire? Few resumes I see have the GPA, and, regardless, a lot of folks use the name... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue is turning thisgs upside down from point of view. I would like to tell you my opinion. If CCNA, NP, DA, DP and IE written are not worth then your Bachelors and Graduate studies worth the same. Just papers. I learn to configure a cisco router before knowing all the cisco stuff. I have a CCDA, CCNP and going for the complete set CCDA, CCNP and CCIE complete. I knew frame relay,atm, sna, dlsw, sdlc, ppp, ipx, switching, etc before taking any cisco course. I took all cisco traning path version 11.2 and just recently obtain my degrees and working for the big one. What will be your opinion Do I know something or I am just papers? You sould be carefull on your opinion about this things, all the knowledge since a long time ago has been paper, No one has achieve glory after years of practice and experience. I was thinking that you are trying to do the same that the shareowners are doing with the internet economy, you are devaluating the value of the Certifications, why don't you do the same with the college and and graduate degrees, they are very similar just studying and passing examns not real life thing until you pass all the levels (semesters and big exam thesis). Giga Internetworking Fer Saldana _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCDP
Yes, you need CCDA. Yes, there are benefits, although financially its usually not a 'wow, an extra $5,000,000/hr' type of jump. Provides a little help for CCIE in my opinion, although the tests are different animals. --- Stephane Wantou Siantou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I am a CCNP. Does anybody know if I need to become CCDA to become CCDP or do I just need to take the CID exam? Also, is it better to pursue the CCIE directly rather than take CCDP first? Are they many tangible advantages in being CCDP? Thanks a lot guys. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Good IOS images
Our recommended version for 25xx from Cisco is 12.0.12, and not to use 11.3. GD releases are preferred. It is good to note that ISPs frequently need to run all types of releases for features and fixes, with a preferrence for GD. I don't know of many that are successful though! --- Charlie Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think the words "it depends" were written specifically for this question. When you go to the Cisco IOS planner page look for images with the letters "GD" after them. This means General Deployment and you'll find a lot of ISP's and large corporates use these because they are considered stable. Around the 12.0(13) or 11.2(22) releases should be GD (I can't remember exactly). On the other hand, if you are just using this for a bit of practise at home then get the very newest image that your memory can handle (12.2(1) should be out now) so you can play with all of the latest shiny, spinny features that won't work properly yet. Cheers Charlie --- "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louie -Original Message- From: Roberts, Timothy To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 3/20/01 1:15 PM Subject: Good IOS images What is a goof IOS image in the 11.3 class and the 12.0 class for the 2501 series? Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2500 wont save config
Late to the party - please issue a show version and publish the results. --- Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think he is talking about the config (i.e. ip addr). That resides in = nvram Not the image (i.e. 10.3) which is in flash. there is a difference. I f you didnt have enough room you could erase the old image.Why would = you want the old image anyway. I think you should check the nvram it may be bad Spence Don It might not save due to lack of mem. Make sure you have enough room to = hold both the current IOS as well as the one your trying to upgrade. = Otherwise you will need to delete one of them first. Being that your on IOS 10.3 = tells me that probably you don't have enough memory. And I see your title." LAN Engineer". I'm not picking on you, but it just seems that for the question you just asked, its not one that = someone would ask in your position. This goes back to the paper cert thing ""Plantier, William (Spencer)"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a 2500 router with 10.3 IOS and I cant save the config. Any suggestions? Wm. Spencer Plantier LAN Engineer (919) 474-1300 ext 0873 Office (919) 474-1056 Fax (919)696-8848 Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: = http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
I respectfully disagree with your summary point. I know at least three CCIEs (R/S) that can't network their way out of a paper bag. The odds are good that you'll find one that has the knowledge, but its not a guarantee. BTW - I have a number of co-workers that have failed the lab but can kick most butts out there! --- Chris Haller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too am pursuing CCIE certification and have noticed a recent influx in people attempting and passing CCNP and CCIE written, especially the recent addition of hundreds of people on this board ... Anyway, CCNA, CCNP, CCDP ... CCIE Written, this means nothing. It is good, takes a good amoumt of work and is somewhat difficult to achieve, but if that's your issue, only interview LAB CERTIFIED CCIE's. There is no such thing as a "Paper LAB CCIE" If you pass the lab, you know your stuff .. WELL. HTH --- Adele Galus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike; I find your comment very interesting, most positions state how many years of experience before applying. The only exceptions that I have seen with certification positions, is in the programing field. It's not the certification being a problem - it's the resources for people to obtain experience. My thoughts are that there needs to be more labs for people to work in when studying for their certification that are affordable or that it can be obtain. People need to be involved with study groups and they should do volunteer work or try working as a contractor. This problem became obvious when Cisco Microsoft started programs in San Jose for the welfare people to start becoming certified. Why did they do that What amazes me is how these people, that you are seeing, have passed the test my 03 cents worth. respectfully, adele Mike Davis wrote: I will probably get yelled at for this one but... I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE. So up front I am not against certs. I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for network folks, I have the opportunity to interview these people to verify technical experience. I have had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know. This scares me because I am also working hard toward my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is showing up more that these people are becoming "paper" Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE. I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE title to be one among thousands who also have it. That is my insite and hope Cisco will try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP and not become another MCSE program. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Chris from Chicago MasterCNE, 5.x CNE, ICNE, 4.x CNE, CCNA, MCP __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: classless behaviour
ip subnet-zero allows the subnet with a zero bit to be used. For example, 10.0.0.0/24 would normally be disallowed per RFC, but subnet-zero allows its usage. ip classless allows the router to operate with summary addresses within the major network boundary. For example, consider a router with 10.1.1.0/24 and 10.0.0.0/8 in its table. A packet destined for 10.2.1.0/24 would be dropped without classless, as there is no specific match within the major network boundary to forward to. All routes (classful) must be within the 'interface' intrepretation. ip classless will forward the packet towards the shorter prefix match presuming that the destination is known behind a summarization point. --- George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the difference between Classless and Classful ? "McCallum, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk... ip subnet zero is required when you want to use subnet zero i.e. 192.168.0.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 is the zero subnet and can only be used when you have ip subnet zero command. ip classless is another for routing, with this if a packet comes in for a destination which is not exactly known then it is dropped without the command ip classless on. With it on the same packet will go to the "nearest matching route". -Original Message- From: Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 March 2001 05:22 To: Cisco Group Study Subject: classless behaviour Hi, To configure classless behaviour, we use "ip subnet-zero" and "ip classless". I never understand them, even after reading Doyle's bible. * When do we need them ? * If we don't use them, what will happen ? * Is there good example to show their effect ? Thank you in advance. Bill _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Beta???
F. And since this beta cost $25.00 US I'm more than disappointed. Of course, this wasn't helped by the fact that the test was poorly written... ;) --- Michael Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. how many years has it been since I've taken the CID Beta, with no results. A.) .0314 B.) .014 C.) 27/87th D.) All the Above E.) None of the Above F.) Too Freaking Long. Of course the answers are ___ -- Michael Snyder NOC Engineer CCNP-Security, MCSE, CCIE-Written [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#17424414 WAMS 273 E. Hacienda Ave Campbell, CA 95008 (408) 341-3041 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCxx Market
The overall marketplace is reporting that spending is not specifically slowing, but rather, that it stopped dead. Hiring managers are taking more time to recruit canidates, but they are still hiring. My contacts are still looking for certifications, but, because of the maturation process of 2000 they are looking beyond this single factor. Business skills, writing experience, and real-world knowledge are all much higher on the list. None of my folks will forward a 'paper' CCXX. --- "Madl, Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as the economy is in a slow tail spin and cisco is cutting back it's CCIE requirements for channel partners, does anyone have any comments on how difficult it is in the current climate and projected near future to find a job on the WAN side?? I just passed my CCNA a month ago, about to write BSCN and half way through switching. I've got 4 years exp. as NT admin within a GE company. Any input/opinions welcome. Mike CCNA, MCSE, ASE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCxx Market: Going Off Topic!
. on teh CCXX issue. All these companies needed to hire folks to man their systems. They had more money than time so they paid them a huge mark up. This effetced other areas of the country (look at the population boom in all the major technology towns.) So with the decline is sales and role outs go the people who worked on the systems. CCNA will be back doing junior work and not pretending to know high level stuff. People who can sell them selves and have skills will command the 100-200k range (CCIE helps.) Always remember that an equaly qualified person with a CCIE always wins out. I also like to note that there are no *paper* CCIEs. moe. --- hal9001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert has any one actually fathomed WHY this has suddenly happened. I'm not making any form of a political point here but it seems (just as a mark of time) to have happened at the ending of one administration and the take-up of another. Do people and the markets feel the "gravy train" has derailed what is the sentiment in the USA? Why the sudden halt? Is Japan also a factor? I think it affects us all world-wide now so is relevant in a general sense. Karl - Original Message - From: "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Madl, Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: CCxx Market The overall marketplace is reporting that spending is not specifically slowing, but rather, that it stopped dead. Hiring managers are taking more time to recruit canidates, but they are still hiring. My contacts are still looking for certifications, but, because of the maturation process of 2000 they are looking beyond this single factor. Business skills, writing experience, and real-world knowledge are all much higher on the list. None of my folks will forward a 'paper' CCXX. --- "Madl, Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as the economy is in a slow tail spin and cisco is cutting back it's CCIE requirements for channel partners, does anyone have any comments on how difficult it is in the current climate and projected near future to find a job on the WAN side?? I just passed my CCNA a month ago, about to write BSCN and half way through switching. I've got 4 years exp. as NT admin within a GE company. Any input/opinions welcome. Mike CCNA, MCSE, ASE _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = _ Moe Tavakoli __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html === message truncated === = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCxx Market: Going Off Topic!
I respect Priscilla a lot, but I respectfully disagree. I love Cisco the company. Its one of the best run and tightest ships in the business. They will be a winner for a long time to come. However, they have a P/E of 52, and expectations of lower earnings. P/E is typically 30 for a non-growth company, so 45 or so would be a good mark for Cisco. Since P/E will go up on bad numbers, which are already anticipated and will occur, a further short term drop of 4-7 points is not unreasonable. A stock buyback could temporarly off-set this. In addition, there is a boatload of money market money in Cisco. Fund managers should be heeding a wake-up call to diversify their funds. This will impact Cisco further. Juniper and competition will also hurt, short term. Since capital is your tool, and Cisco is cash rich (meaning your $100,000 investment today will not change things for them directly), keep the cash, use bonds, CDs and other investments to make some money, keep cash for a longer-term downturn, and watch the market like a hawk so that you are ready to go in with a 'non dead-cat bounce' uptick. Don't try to 'time' the market, but don't try to set the watch ahead twenty minutes either. ;) (I know this is O/T, but one cannot help but consider these issues in light of the economy and certifications (which are a risk/reward model themselves - I spend $5000 to get certified, when do I break even...) And remember, we're still in a neutral or growing economy with low unemployment. Most of us, me included, haven't been through 'bad times.' My family was very poor when I was young, so I've got a bit of depression mentality, but I've still only seen the 'crash; of '87 as a high schooler. --- Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it must be time to get them cisco shares then ? They look like a snip at $20 !!! Phil. I predict a turnaround by this time next year. The computer industry has always been cyclical. We'll come around again. --- Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:13 PM 3/14/01, hal9001 wrote: Robert has any one actually fathomed WHY this has suddenly happened. The bubble burst. It was bound to happen. The dot-com craze was cotton candy. I'm not making any form of a political point here but it seems (just as a mark of time) to have happened at the ending of one administration and the take-up of another. George W. has unlucky timing. It would have happened no matter who was elected. Do people and the markets feel the "gravy train" has derailed what is the sentiment in the USA? Why the sudden halt? Is Japan also a factor? I think it affects us all world-wide now so is relevant in a general sense. The computer industry is still solid. Companies with sensible business plans that recognize the need to make a profit will do fine. I predict a turnaround by this time next year. The computer industry has always been cyclical. We'll come around again. Big spending will start occurring again when we realize that are current computers and networks are still too slow and too dumb. Most of us can envision all sorts of advanced applications that are still not technologically feasible, but they will be feasible as progress is made. And they will eat CPU cycles, memory, and bandwidth causing more spending to happen. That's my $0.02. I hope we don't waste too much bandwidth on this O/T discussion. (Easy for me to say after I had my say! ;-) Priscilla Karl - Original Message - From: "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Madl, Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: CCxx Market The overall marketplace is reporting that spending is not specifically slowing, but rather, that it stopped dead. Hiring managers are taking more time to recruit canidates, but they are still hiring. My contacts are still looking for certifications, but, because of the maturation process of 2000 they are looking beyond this single factor. Business skills, writing experience, and real-world knowledge are all much higher on the list. None of my folks will forward a 'paper' CCXX. --- "Madl, Michael (CAP, AFS, Contractor)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as the economy is in a slow tail spin and cisco is cutting back it's CCIE requirements for channel partners, does anyone have any comments on how difficult it is in the current climate and projected near future to find a job on the WAN side?? I just passed my CCNA a month ago, about to write BSCN and half way through switching. I've got 4 years exp. as NT admin within a GE company. Any input/opinions welc
Re: Question regarding summarization and etc..
Without summarizing space outside of these blocks you can't. Readdressing is the next best option. --- Almazi Rashid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all: I need to know 1.how to summarize 1.1.0.0/16,1.3.0.0/16,1.0.3.0/23 and 1.0.16.0/23 2.when troublrshooting a serial interface you encounter the statement loop-up on the interface ,what does this mean. Thanks in Advance. Almazi CCNP _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID beta
No score yet. I told you all - CSCO to 30/share before
they release.
--- Lou Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Cisco... lost this test...
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Well, the Foundation 2 beta exam took 13 weeks to
appear on galton and
it took at least another 3 weeks to get my score
report from Sylvan,
which they mailed to my office address instead of my
home address...
I have never experienced a longer wait, and I've
done CompTIA (8
weeks), Novell (one time 2 weeks, but usually 4-6) ,
Microsoft betas
(6-8 weeks) ...
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I think have to wait till 15 Mar..exactly 12
weeks!!!
does anyone passed on past experience how long will
a beta exam result be
out?
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Anyone got their results yet?
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Re: Query range of EIGRP networks
Queries in EIGRP will traverse the AS, and any EIGRP ASs that are redistributions from the origin EIGRP AS. BGP, et al, can kill this, but this is the same as a summary in EIGRP. Once a query hits a summary point it goes one hop further and dies. --- Arthur Simplina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using EIGRP, queries are propagated throughout the network. If this is a large enterprise network, queries will be sent thru the network boundary. Unlike OSPF where areas can be created to partition the network and make it more manageable, i.e., changes and subsequent route recalculations are isolated within the particular area, EIGRP has one single AS where routers go in active mode in trying to find a feasible successor to a failed link.In OSPF, summarization is done at the ABRs while in EIGRP, this can be done in any router. I read from the Routing Certification Guide that “summarization is the best way to limit the query range of EIGRP networks” and that, queries can be managed effectively by summarization and filters. Can somebody explain this more fully? I can better visualize the OSPF areas that scale well to large enterprise networks. But I don’t see an analogy to this with EIGRP except that is has an extremely fast convergence mechanism when the routers have feasible successors and has a large diameter that addresses the scalability issues. TIA. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?
I think that, as historically demonstrated, the talented ones will do well. CCIE status right now is in flux simply because the rates were quite high, the skills inconsistent, and the training/certification challenged. I wanted to sit the CCIE Design track and its already been yanked with others. There will not be a glut of CCIEs in my opinion, but there will be a greater demand for people who know - that means a piece of paper is not going to do it and the days of passing a goofy test and making $200/hr are thankfully ending. (Hopefully the $200/hr for those who know, with or without the CCIE, will not be too impacted.) Study hard, make sure that you have non-technical skills to augment your technical ones, compete on merit and not letters and you'll do well. Good luck - I think this is just the start (of course it is - everything is just the start...) ;) --- Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the same topic - almost. is the new Channel Partner Program that begins this July. Being "only" a Premier Partner I guess I don't get the whole story as it relates to Silver and Gold Partners. However, our local paper ran a large article on the cutbacks at Cisco (Ottawa/Kanata - Silicon North) and that article also said that Cisco is lessening the amount of CCIEs required. It used to be one CCIE for every $10m of product and now it will be one CCIE for $40m of product. So, that means that companies won't need as many CCIEs as before. Does this shrink the market for CCIEs? Will this affect whether you want/need to be a CCIE? Will the market now have a glut of CCIEs since companies don't need as many any more. What to do think?? Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Dropped Packet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 11 March, 2001 01:48 Subject: off-topic: anyone alarmed? http://cnnfn.cnn.com/2001/03/09/technology/cisco/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any magazine about routers and networks??
Network World - nwfusion.com Packet - cisco.com --- xzadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you know any good magazine about network technology and routers or switches??? Many thanks xzadio _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DSL internet with PPPoE
I don't think the router will allow this, but: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ and other relay systems might. PPPoE is a means of controlling users regardless of resource - a great method for billing and providing 'value-added' services. Unfortunately, its a bit of a hack. Look at RFC 2516 for mor information. You may also be able to request DSL on ATM, which forgoes all of this nonsense. On Layer 2 connections I can still get this from the local vendor. --- Rizzo Damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how any of this will provide me with what I desire. I desire to plug my DSL modem directly into my router and use that router's address as the gateway for my LAN. There's no reason that with only ONE registered IP address that every PC in my LAN can't access the internet. There are many solutions for this, I would probably use PAT on the router for instance. The only thing that stands between me and my desire, is this friggin, useless, does nothing but supply accounting info to the ISP, waste of bandwidth of a protocol, PPPoE! Once you plug the Modem into the router, you somehow have to authenticate to the ISP PPPoE server with a name and password. I have not found a way to implement this yet. This make me mad! Thanks for the ideas... -Original Message- From: Rahul Kachalia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:48 PM To: Timothy Metz; Rizzo Damian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL internet with PPPoE Tim, PPPoE fundamentals are pretty much similar to PPP over WAN links but PPPoE breaks the boundary on router/modem brings down to host level where PPP is initiated just like a router but instead of serial links they send PPP request over Ethernet frame which may add more Layer 2 frame as configured on router/modem towards dslcloud. If second PC need to connect to internet that PC too needs an internet account PPPoE software in order to access else first PC can be multihomed provide a gateway service to other host on LAN. thanks rahul. - Original Message - From: "Timothy Metz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Rahul Kachalia" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Rizzo Damian" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: RE: DSL internet with PPPoE Yes, I think this would work but I don't see how a second PC could get access to the internet unless it used the PC that initiated the connection through the DSL modem as a gateway. Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rahul Kachalia Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:39 PM To: Rizzo Damian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DSL internet with PPPoE Rizzo, I think its possible, following would be your topology LAN-switch-Ciscorouter-eth-dsl modem--dsl cloud ( make sure you have to turn ON bridging on both ethernet interface of router ) I am assuming you are using PPPoE client software on the PC. PPPoE send Ethernet broadcast which needs to reach to PPPoE server unless you dont turn bridging on at routers traffic wont pass it will fail. thanks rahul. - Original Message - From: "Rizzo Damian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:22 AM Subject: DSL internet with PPPoE I have a home lab with a few routers and switches, I have a permanent DSL connection but unfortunately they use PPPoE for authentication. Is there any way possible I can use this connection with a Cisco Router??? I'd like to plug the modem into my router and then route traffic from there. But can't seem to get past the PPPoE problem. Thanks for the help. Damian Rizzo Senior IT Engineer Marakon Associates 203-978-6341 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduc
RE: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list.
If you understand 'Cisco' tests taking the DCN cold should not be too bad. The test is unlike any other, and it will benefit you if you study books like Priscilla's. However, CID is much harder in my opinion regarding actual knowledge of systems, and neither will qualify you to actually design networks. Good luck. --- Dennis Laganiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I took the test for the CCDA last year I found it to be the most "fun" of any of the tests. Just read the Cisco Press book and take the test; no cramming or learning commands. It's about the easiest test I've ever taken, and I've been doing certs forever (currently MCSE+I, CCNP/CCDP, CCIE candidate; lapsed CNE, XCSS, and an bunch more over the years)... --- Dennis -Original Message- From: Miller, Nathan - BSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 8:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Doing things backwards - Question for the CCDPs in the list. I know that this is not the list for CCDA questions but I hope that you will humor me. I have recently completed CCNP and studied with another engineer who was already CCDA certified. We studied for the CID (640-025) exam together and I passed this exam today. My question is this: Is the DCN (CCDA) exam sufficiently different from the CID that I will need to study for it separately or will the prep for the CID exam suffice. Thanks in advance for your advice. Nathan Miller, CCNP Enterprise Network Engineer Catholic Healthcare West 602-307-2659 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VoIP over Satellite link
If your question is "Can I do VOIP over a satellite link?" I would think that one could not. The latency is so high that it would have to be an issue. If someone is doing it I'd be very interested in the configurations. It would really help a number of companies that I know. --- Ricardo Ciganda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You only need IP Plus Feature to support VoIP capabilities. Ricardo Ciganda CCNA, CCDA, Security BCMSN, BCRAN, CIT Systems Engineer and Network Consultant BYTEMASTER, S.A. C/ Gran Capitan 2-4 4ª Planta Barcelona, SPAIN 08034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (+34) 93-2520540 Fax:(+34) 93-2520541 Ask me I won't say no, how could I? The Smiths -Mensaje original- De: Amit Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: miércoles, 28 de febrero de 2001 11:32 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: VoIP over Satellite link Hi All, Help needed on the prerequisites in the form of IOS for configuring VoIP over an International Leased Private Circuit. Do the Cisco Routers at both the sides have to have a minimum IOS version. We are using the 3640 Router at both ends. Thanks Regards Amit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vunerabilities to be announced in IOS
SNMP issue documented at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/ios-snmp-ilmi-vuln-pub.shtml --- anthony kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: is the "guessable TCP sequence number process" a flaw in the randomization of the ISN? --- Robert Padjen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slightly OT. Cisco is announcing a number of security holes in certain versions of the IOS, likely tomorrow. A number of them are starting to get exposure in the security press already, and ISPs have been briefed and should have patches and other temporary fixes in place already. Enterprise customers (some larger ones) were briefed today and have already taken steps to thwart attacks. The two biggest threats in my mind are: - A default SNMP RW string of ILMI. - A guessable TCP sequence number process - this could be used to hack BGP and other router processes. There are a number of others. Most of us will be same because the attacks need access - for example, you deny SNMP from the untrusted networks, right? Thus, ILMI is just another guess at the password/string. BGP should only accept packets from the neighbor, so again, a non-issue hopefully. The biggest reason for posting this here is for those studying security - the next few days should be very interesting to watch. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
Contrary to Mr. Reagan, sometimes youth is a positive. I have two years on Mel, and I'm just finally getting out of the 'you're so young...' Govern your enthusiasm and impatience in meetings and kick (*$. --- Dale Frohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they think you are young, they will probably think I am still a baby being only 19. I have my CCNA, 1/4 CCNP and actively seeking MCSE 2k. I also have an AA degree and also seeking my bachelor degree in computer science. I plan on getting my CCIE within the next few years. I have worked with an internet company for more than three years now. I have been told that I am impatient and immature, but I am not one to just sit around. If anyone can help me dispel some of these notions I would be greatly thankful. Also if someone veterans can give some pointers/tips on how to make it in this industry, that would also be helpful. I hope all this hard work pays off! Dale On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mel Chandler PMI wrote: I'm 29 and all I ever hear about is how young I am (I guess youth is automatically associated with inexperience) But I've been around. I've done a four year tour in the Navy in the Advanced Electronics field as a Sonar Technician on a Submarine. I've worked for some fortune 500 companies like Airtouch, IBM, Boeing, AST, Bergen Brunswick. I have some certs to back me up, but no matter what I do, it just never seems to be enough... Oh well, maybe after I have a PhD and CCIE I'll get someone to listen to me. Mel L. Chandler, A+, Network+, MCNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Analyst Information Services PMI Delta Dental (562) 467-6627 -Original Message- From: John Hardman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff? LOL! I am 36, and have the same problem, thank Cisco that they put a ? in the IOS. Don't worry about it, most of the people I work (worked) with in the network business are between 20-60 with the majority being in their 40's. They say that memory is the first thing to go, I just wish would have told my body that! -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I ""rtc"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm 40--am I getting too old for this stuff? Cant remember anything worth a damn, especially the commands nd command syntax _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vunerabilities to be announced in IOS
Slightly OT. Cisco is announcing a number of security holes in certain versions of the IOS, likely tomorrow. A number of them are starting to get exposure in the security press already, and ISPs have been briefed and should have patches and other temporary fixes in place already. Enterprise customers (some larger ones) were briefed today and have already taken steps to thwart attacks. The two biggest threats in my mind are: - A default SNMP RW string of ILMI. - A guessable TCP sequence number process - this could be used to hack BGP and other router processes. There are a number of others. Most of us will be same because the attacks need access - for example, you deny SNMP from the untrusted networks, right? Thus, ILMI is just another guess at the password/string. BGP should only accept packets from the neighbor, so again, a non-issue hopefully. The biggest reason for posting this here is for those studying security - the next few days should be very interesting to watch. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID beta score report
Cisco has announced that no beta scores will be released until the stock price hits $35/share. ;) --- GNOME [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh..don't know when it will ever released it has been 8 weeks + "Andrei Hladki" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 96rkik$nfu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96rkik$nfu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... do somebody received the score report from prometric? it's high time _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 internal MSFC`s running HSRP
I can't find it right now, and in fact, it may not relate to this post, however, I have posted the rules before: Dual Sups/Dual MSFC 6500 platform Configurations MUST be exactly the same, except for IP address and a few minor items. HSRP within the chassis is not allowed. Cisco requires that this be two chassis. It is a software issue, and badly documented, but it is true. Cosmos is supposed to improve this, but my NSA team still holds to this requirement. --- Stephen D Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello my Friends, Please can you guys confirm something for me . i have one 6509 with 2 SUP cards in it each one has an MSFC these are running HSRP.. Hsrp is configured on all my (VLAN) interfaces , i`m not doing MLS just CEF.with virtuall int`s configured on both cards(we for some reason have the first int shutdown and the seond live).standard int`s ...Config snippet ip subnet-zero no ip source-route ip cef no ip finger no ip domain-lookup ! interface Vlan43 description Legacy primary interface ip address 158.x.x.253 255.255.255.0 ip access-group 153 out ip helper-address 158.x.difsubnet.1 no ip redirects no ip directed-broadcast ip route-cache same-interface standby use-bia standby priority 120 preempt standby ip 158.x.x.254 Everything is fine-ish when i put a sniffer on my client VLan i am seeing HSRP HELLO`S.Should i ? how can i stop these leaving my 65? thanks in advance Stephen Skinner GIS UK Operations,Esso Petroleum Company External Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGRP to EIGRP conversion #2
router eigrp 1 distance eigrp (internal) (external) --- suaveguru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry mind if I ask what is the command to change default admin dist of a routing protocol regards, suaveguru --- Russell Lusignan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enable EIGRP on the routers and add the network statements as you normally would.. raise the administrative distance of EIGRP to 110, I believe IGRP is 100 so even though both routing protocols are running on every router, EIGRP routes will be rejected because IGRP has a lower admin distance.. Once the routers are ready, simply put the admin distance of EIGRP back to 90 and it should converge within a few mins.. Once the network is using only EIGRP learned routes, remote IGRP off the routers. hope that helps Russ.. ""Roberts, Timothy"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a hub site with 5 remote sites connecting to it via frame relay. They are all running IGRP with the same AS. What would be the best way to migrate from IGRP to EIGRP? Starting by enabling EIGRP on the core router and run both IGRP and EIGRP. Then convert the spokes one by one. Then remove IGRP from the core. Can I just enable EIGRP on the remotes, allow some time to propagate routes in to the table, and then disable IGRP? The people up stairs will not allow for any significant down time. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGRP to EIGRP conversion #2
Timothy - I think that you've asked this a few times but never with this type of information. Let's get things a bit more organized with all due respect. I really would like to help you as migrations to EIGRP can be tricky. First, what are the models and memory installations of the routers? Second, what are the remote links and their utilizations? Third, are the remotes all stubs - just an Ethernet on the other side? Is the frame-relay configuration point to point or multipoint? I ask because EIGRP usually does not do well in hub-and-spoke designs. This is due to the number of neighbor relationships that are established. With five neighbors and solid routers you might be fine, but growth would be a concern. Since you are running F/R you might want to consider ODR, which would take no additional bandwidth. You might also want to look at RIP v2. EIGRP is really good for larger, more complex networks. Its usually overkill for smaller hub/spokes, which usually are in processor/memory challenged networks. I look forward to hearing from you. --- "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hub site with 5 remote sites connecting to it via frame relay. They are all running IGRP with the same AS. What would be the best way to migrate from IGRP to EIGRP? Starting by enabling EIGRP on the core router and run both IGRP and EIGRP. Then convert the spokes one by one. Then remove IGRP from the core. Can I just enable EIGRP on the remotes, allow some time to propagate routes in to the table, and then disable IGRP? The people up stairs will not allow for any significant down time. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which Job Should I Take?
An interesting choice. Two thoughts come to mind: 1) Choose one. Now, how do you feel about that choice? Most people feel buyers remorse - you are looking for the reasons that you feel the pit in the stomach. 2) You are usually best off from a career perspective working with others. I say this as the overnight shift typically has fewer resources around and fewer opportunities for promotion, etc. The pre-IPO issue is of concern - you need to go further though. What is their funding, business model, revenue and cash flow, and opportunity for advancement. IF they are paying the same salary but the options are bonus then you are simply comparing one lay-off opportunity for another. Are you better off with some great risk for more opportunity that could get you the next position faster? --- RG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all going to come down to your personal preference. I would gather from your comments that you are leaning towards the first one. It sounds like the route I would go even though I would hate the shift it's still better than putting on a tie, but you stated you liked that shift so that would not be a problem for you. - Original Message - From: "Traceroute" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Which Job Should I Take? I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. I have a = choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase in pay of = about 9k. 1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network engineer" working = 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we work with = cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support = responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is happening and = I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, monday and = tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last but not = least, it's business casual. 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" working 8 = to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting = exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s = about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is for sure is = there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to = graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also = pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new "division" = and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One = cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad thing is that = they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing = makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, lots of the = big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers = etc...?? Anyway, thanks for any input... _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting from IGRP to EIGRP
Cisco provides a feature called automatic redistribution (or something like that). If you make the process ID/AS number for EIGRP the same as IGRP on the router it will automatically redistribute in both directions. This is a bad idea for all but the simplest networks. In the best redistributions a designer wants to prevent a route from coming back and looping (AD and metric should normally prevent this, but it helps to know your network). Also, summarization and manual control of the routes is prefered for EIGRP under most circumstances. Lastly, why lose control over somehting that is so simple - automatation indicates that the administrator does not understand the requirements, which would usually complicate troubleshooting. --- Santosh Koshy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, please do not put everything in the same AS. This is a very bad thing, and I really wish Cisco would kill the feature. (I think it was placed in there for marketing) I dont get this robert Please explain the above... _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting from IGRP to EIGRP
First, please do not put everything in the same AS. This is a very bad thing, and I really wish Cisco would kill the feature. (I think it was placed in there for marketing) There are two standard ways to do this. The first is border - you simply redistribute and filter with distribute lists. The redistribution point can be moved as you convert, or more added (although you should only have two routers invloved if possible). The other is overlay. Both IGRP and EIGRP run on all routers in the network, but EIGRP's AD is weighted higher. Then you pull IGRP off. Any router that is not running IGRP will advertise the routes via EIGRP, and the only real trick is memory and making sure that you work from the outside in on the IGRP removal. --- "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this a few weeks ago and only got a few responses so I thought that I would try again. What would be the best way to migrate from IGRP to EIGRP? Everything is in the same AS. Should I just add the EIGRP statements to all of the routers and let EIRE do the redistribution automatically? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID beta results
When Cisco hits $42 a share? ;) Sorry, couldn't resist. --- GNOME [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sigh..when will the result ever to be out:( "Michael Snyder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 95v6qr$lth$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:95v6qr$lth$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Any word on this? I think I didn't pass, but I want to know for sure. ""Steven Crawford"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... When I took my test, the final screen said 8 weeks, so we should have our results this week. Galton does not have them yet, but they should be up by Friday if they are going to be 8 weeks. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent CID takers pls comment
The DCN (CCDA) exam has scenarios akin to Microsoft's exams. The CID (CCDP) exam does not and will likely never have such a presentation. This is an interesting challenge as noted below as the test cannot fully address design. --- Craig Columbus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While scenarios can be interesting, don't expect any on CID 3.0. It's not a very well written test, but it's certainly passable if you know the material on the review guide. Craig At 08:24 AM 2/7/2001 -0800, you wrote: I'm definitely with Howard on this one. I plan on taking the CID within a month and I would expect scenarios to be on the test. How else would you really test design skills? I'm more worried that the test is just a bad test overall. I don't think I've read a single good thing about any version of it. Perhaps I'll wait until the newest release is out and I've heard some comment on that before I take it. If Cisco would bother to actually read the comments that people make on beta tests, perhaps they could come up with a solid design exam. Hi I read in a forum that the CID exam now is 200 questions in 120 mins !! I was told a month back that it was 100 questions. Pls clarify. (Hope those boring scenarios are not there.) regards Why are scenarios boring? Aren't those the principal things you will deal with as a real-world designer? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP Hello Packets
You can, and should, passive the loopback interface. The extra is nominal, but it is good practice. --- Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, I wouldn't have expected that, the likelihood of the loopback process crashing without the router crashing as well is miniscule. It looks more likely that Cisco have put it in for completeness. I would guess that the extra CPU overhead is also very small as well. Regards, Phil. --- James Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've been doing some debugging of EIGRP packets and noticed that Hello packets are sent to the Loopback interface when configured: Feb 2 13:47:29 pst: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on Loopback0 Feb 2 13:47:29 pst: AS , Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0 Feb 2 13:47:29 pst: EIGRP: Received HELLO on Loopback0 nbr XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Feb 2 13:47:29 pst: AS , Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 Feb 2 13:47:29 pst: EIGRP: Packet from ourselves ignored I've looked in Pepelnjak's book to see if this is needed and I don't see it mentioned anywhere. Is this not just wasting CPU cycles on a meaningless endeavor? Is this required in order for EIGRP to function properly? If I could I'd like to put in a passive-interface for the Loopback. Enjoy the weekend. Jim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSFC CPU Utilization Pegged at 99%....but a sh proc cpu does not reveal anything past 1%
Check to see if you have a multicast (or several) stream going through. We are seeing the first signs of a bug on ours where it appears that all packets are written to MLS and process switching. --- "Greene, Patrick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a 6509 with 2 MSFC's. The MSFC's are running 12.1(2)E. Just had one of the MSFC's spike to 99%. A sh proc cpu reveals that total utlization should add up to about 5%. A reload of the module causes the exact same thing. A no changes have been made. Anybody seen this before. Also, the other MSFC and Switch Utilization are both showing about 3-5%, which is normal. Thank You, Patrick Greene _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGRP to EIGRP
You have two choices for all intents and purposes. The first is divide and attack. Pick a redistribution point and move that point through the migration. This is a great method if you are building new services at the same time. The second is overlay. We are doing this now, and it works, but its a bit more complex to backout and manage during migration. Effectively you place EIGRP on all routers with a higher AD. IGRP is the protocol in use due to the AD. Usually EIGRP will have summaries which will not be used but will be in the table. When ready start pulling IGRP off the routers - everything is running EIGRP, so the routes will be there. Don't ever use the 'automatic' redistribution that Cisco provides, always use 'no auto-summary' and take a look at Pepelnjak's book. Good luck. --- "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for some suggestions on what would be the easiest way to convert from IGRP to EIGRP in a large scale environment? Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
I fail to see how your reply relates to my post, and I would agree with the generic position that the resume will not garner the offer - however, I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts, and I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.) These problems included grammar, spelling, style and content. The resume sets a tone - a good one raises the expectations and elevates the canidate. A poor one, if interviewed, places him/her in a bad position from the start. --- Lou Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert... I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here. The resume will NEVER... I repeat NEVER get you a job ... Only an interview... and the HR will go over to put the full package together SO lets get this... The interview and what end of the salary you fall on The CCNA just might get the resume from the HR to techies,... who will say... hey we got a CCNP here... bottom line it can NOT hurt you to put the CCNA under the CCNP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I think that having two version of your resume is more common these days - fancy formatting for print and ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three pages, but the first page is summary and the last page is education, certifications and associations. I think that the length answer is three or under - if you've got more then its either too dated or you've done too much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the folks instead of pulling you to the top. One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each of the last five years should have at least four bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a little bit for introduction - I personally hate the "I want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every font and don't print double sided. Leave room for notes!!! (Sorry for being a mother hen!) For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it seems like there are two camps - those that put it in for HR and keyword search and those that don't want to work for a company that is too stupid to understand the relationship. (The position is too junior if they're looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) All the best. --- Pradeep Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page resume did not make it for a tech support position and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) What is more important than the size of the resume is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed being trained from Sniffer University and did not know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for being trained are sometimes more productive than a self-centered techies. So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) -PG -Original Message- From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to keep at 3 pages, though as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tariq Bin Azad Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM To: 'Andy' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky no... Tariq -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM To: Bradley J. Wilson Cc: cisco Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) On Fri, 26 Jan 200
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
There seems to be a lot of negative energy today. William, I will start by saying that I find the tone of your post very disturbing. You may not understand the context, but that yields little cause to reply in this manner. I will respond in line and without the same tone in the hopes that we can come to a common ground. --- william ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert's comments are pretty typical and ignorant: "I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts." So what? I am saying that I, and I presume others, have received offers only on the basis of the resume. This refutes the contention that the resume does not get you the job, and I was trying to illustrate the point that the resume can and does have a significant impact on the interview, offer and tone of the position. Lou and I have discussed this off-line. Further, I would ask why you take the position that my comments are typical and ignorant. Usually typical contentions are grounded in some fact. Also, I've hired people since 1993, and currently screen for a company that I consult for. I also work with a number contracting agencies who want to place as many folks as they can without a lot of overhead, yet it takes a day or two to polish the resume such that they can present it. This again leads to frustration, and could impact placement - 'he's only worth $75 as opposed to $115/hr.' "I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.)" What's wrong with this picture? Are you hiring the person or the resume? In fact it sounds like you read the resumes and brought them in anyhow for an interview. And although in most cases the face to face interview is the true litmus test, you decided not hire them because to you, the resume was just to important to overlook? Talk about wasting everyone's time. I will clarify. I have refused to interview individuals who wasted my time by sending me their most impressive calling card and not taking the time to provide a well-constructed document. The resume is too important to overlook. I have hired people with great resumes and poor interviews as the interview was not their best presence - they were nervous, etc. I am consistently asked to review resumes and regularly get kudos on mine for what its worth. I also get hired. I did not disagree with Lou regarding the fact that the resume is the key to the door, however, I will also disagree that the resume is a 'just enough' effort. Too many have gotten used to the low unemployment rate and easy times we've had and, perhaps, never learned about the importance of a good resume. Interviewing skills are also important, as is a good attitude that does not critize or belittle. Lou, don't listen to Robert. You have the right idea by putting together a resume that brings your strengths to light. As for getting it into the hands of the person making the hiring decision, that is always the best case scenario. Trust me, even the worst recruiter realizes that HR does not add much to the process. With this in mind, it is still a political game that is played at most companies where HR must be involved in the process at some point so they in affect, don't lose face. The bottom line with any good manager that has been given the task of hiring a good employee is to see what this person is about in one on one interview. Only than can he or she determine whether the person is a fit in more ways than one. Agreed, except I would add that the first impression timer starts with the resume. As such, you might get in the door with a weak resume, but you will be working from a position of weakness and it will be almost impossible to recover. From: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lou Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:53:44 -0600 I totally agree that a resume should be clean and free of errors and project your best image. I was trying to point out (and I did a poor job of it) that A CCNA IMHO has a place on the resume (if it fits) because the resume only gets you the interview. I know that when I wrote my resume most recently, I kept having to remind myself that all I wanted the resume to do was get me in the door... open up discussions on what I can do, and bypass the HR folks to get to the technical department. I was only focusing in on that single point of CCNP and CCNA or just CCNP discussion. Please forget that CLASSIC comment I made. Lou -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:17 AM To: Lou Nelson; Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL P
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
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Re: Passed Switching Exam
S!!! Your not supposed to disclose the fact that everyone passes in Cisco's desires to get more certified. kidding Congrats to all. Of all the 500 exams switching was the best constructed in my opinion, which may have made it more consistent for equally prepared candidates. --- gustavo_spadaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. I just took the exam last week and got 857 - Original Message - From: "Fred Danson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: Re: Passed Switching Exam You got 857 on that exam too?? I just took the exam last week and got 857. Also one of the other guys in my CCNP class also got 857. Has anyone out there not scored 857 on this exam?? :) From: Helena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Helena [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passed Switching Exam Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:08:46 +1000 (EST) Hi everyone, Last week I sat the Switching exam and passed. I didn't find it as easy some people said, and only got 857. But I'm happy I passed anyway :o) There were some straightforward questions, but some really hard ones as well, which the answers I thought weren't in the book (CiscoPress) I was reading. They also asked heaps of questions on LED lights which I didnt' know. I have a problem with timing myself though, having done my three CCNP Helena _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Exam results
If you take a regular test the seat will not be cold before you find out - you get a printout immediately. If its a beta you will wait for eight weeks following the beta. --- True Dwyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About how long does it take to get the exam results back? Is it instant feedback or is there a period of time you have to wait? I'm planning on taking it this summer, and if I don't pass, there is a local class starting in fall that I can take to help. __ True Dwyer Information Systems Administrator Integrated Design, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Certifications on resumes
I was asked an interesting question this morning by a friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP. I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said no, list it all. Please chime in with your position - unicast if your just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an improper use of the board. Thanks. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beta results for CID
Technically, if one could figure out what the mangled question was asking, it would be a very easy test. Given the high percentage of questions that had no answer or multiple answers, in addition to ones that made no sense what-so-ever, I respectfully disagree that its an easy test. --- GNOME [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yapquite easy...n some close 1 eye can do :P "Gonzalo P." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 94ifls$d96$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:94ifls$d96$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nops, nothing yet. I have been checking also the tracking system since it is faster than snail-mail. Easy test, don't you think? Gonzalo... "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I haven't, but I'm not expecting anything until February. --- Fomes Iain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone received anything yet ? regards Iain Fomes * DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beta results for CID
I haven't, but I'm not expecting anything until February. --- Fomes Iain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone received anything yet ? regards Iain Fomes * DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID DCN
The CID test is not like the DCN in regards to your question. It has been published that the test has 100 questions. --- PYF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any case study questions in CID which is similar as in the DCN exam? How many of these questions are in the CID exam? Please advise. Thanks. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID Exam (640-025)
Typically there seems to be a six month delay from the end of a beta to the retirement of a test, but there is no rule. The new CID test (beta) was very bad and I hope Cisco takes some time to correct it before its release. The old test was poor, but was at least managable. Good luck. --- PYF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will this exam going to retire within months? Usually, when will be the new exam released after the beta exam? Do I still going for this exam? Please advise. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Domain, (again)
As we discussed in a subsequent post, I overstated my religious positions. Yes, the CatOS will allow all members of a domain to be server, but there are issues with the domain understanding the 'correct server' under specific circumstances. As such, and given no real real-time redundancy requirements for the protocol, I maintain that only one switch should be given server status in the domain and all other switches should be made clients. --- Jianfeng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I know, you can have more than one VTP servers in a domain and all switches in the domain can be a server. Changes on any server will automatically propagate to all switches in the domain. No changes allowed on a client. Robert Padjen wrote: Only one switch in a domain can act as the server. All others must be clients. The recommendation to set up the 'biggest' switch as a server is OK, however, it is not really necessary. If it works out, the server should be the switch closest to the center of the VTP domain. This will usually have the best/most connections to the rest of the domain, which will provide the best, central administration point. I would also recommend that you standardize on all lower case or all upper case for the VTP domain name, and that you actively set version two assuming that all devices in the domain support it. I will note that I know quite a few administrators who have just gone to transparent mode and forgo VTP. This seems to be because they've been burned, especially in the 3.x version of CatOS, which did have some bugs. I'd recommend using it, but make sure you follow the rules. --- Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you set the Biggest switch as a server,set up your next biggest switch as server also . Set the domain on the Server FIRST. MAKE sure all VLAN info is correct..BEFORE you setup VTP. Don`t do it until everyone has gone home (OVERTIME Tee Hee) make the domain name MEAN somethinghelpfull later . Check all CDP info beforehand (make sure all switches see eachother...if there supposed to). Store all Vlan info before.MAKE sure you know all about the VLAN`s first... IF you have diffrent info about different Vlan`s on different switches make these switches all SERVER`S DON`T PANIC!! HTH steve "AA my god , what `s happened to my LAN" From: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Domain, (again) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:36:05 -0500 You can set all switchs as domain server or elect one core switch as server and others as clien. Just do set vtp domain 'name' command on each switch. You don't to do anything else. The valn name is just like an alias, it doesn't affect the functinality. You can not mannual change the VTP revision unless you reboot a VTP server switch. Hope it helps, Ming Wonkyu Lee wrote: HI All, The place where I'm working at right now has several vlans and trunking. However, from the beginning, no one turned on the VTP Domain. So whenever I put a new switch into the existing LAN, and setting up a vlan and trunking, I have to add them manually. So I'm thinking I'm enabling the VTP domain on all switches. We have 5500, 5002s, 2900XLs, 3500XLs. So here goes my question.. What is the procedure to enable the domain feature ? I know the CLI how to do it, but what should I beware of before I do it? What will happen when the vtp starts to advertising its vlan database to client switches, which have already all the infos stored in manually? Some vlans have their name on one switch(ex, TECH), but the others don't(vlan13) and would it be a problem ? Can i change a VTP revision number manually? Wonkyu Lee _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | |Mingzhou Nie :|: :|: Customer Support Engineer :|: :|: TAC, RTP, NC .:|:.:|:. Tel/Fax: 919.392.4732 C i s c o S y s t e m s Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, lis
Re: Subject: RE: VTP Domain, (again)
t/most connections to the rest of the domain, which will provide the best, central administration point. I would also recommend that you standardize on all lower case or all upper case for the VTP domain name, and that you actively set version two assuming that all devices in the domain support it. I will note that I know quite a few administrators who have just gone to transparent mode and forgo VTP. This seems to be because they've been burned, especially in the 3.x version of CatOS, which did have some bugs. I'd recommend using it, but make sure you follow the rules. Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Domain, (again)
Only one switch in a domain can act as the server. All others must be clients. The recommendation to set up the 'biggest' switch as a server is OK, however, it is not really necessary. If it works out, the server should be the switch closest to the center of the VTP domain. This will usually have the best/most connections to the rest of the domain, which will provide the best, central administration point. I would also recommend that you standardize on all lower case or all upper case for the VTP domain name, and that you actively set version two assuming that all devices in the domain support it. I will note that I know quite a few administrators who have just gone to transparent mode and forgo VTP. This seems to be because they've been burned, especially in the 3.x version of CatOS, which did have some bugs. I'd recommend using it, but make sure you follow the rules. --- Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you set the Biggest switch as a server,set up your next biggest switch as server also . Set the domain on the Server FIRST. MAKE sure all VLAN info is correct..BEFORE you setup VTP. Don`t do it until everyone has gone home (OVERTIME Tee Hee) make the domain name MEAN somethinghelpfull later . Check all CDP info beforehand (make sure all switches see eachother...if there supposed to). Store all Vlan info before.MAKE sure you know all about the VLAN`s first... IF you have diffrent info about different Vlan`s on different switches make these switches all SERVER`S DON`T PANIC!! HTH steve "AA my god , what `s happened to my LAN" From: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Domain, (again) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:36:05 -0500 You can set all switchs as domain server or elect one core switch as server and others as clien. Just do set vtp domain 'name' command on each switch. You don't to do anything else. The valn name is just like an alias, it doesn't affect the functinality. You can not mannual change the VTP revision unless you reboot a VTP server switch. Hope it helps, Ming Wonkyu Lee wrote: HI All, The place where I'm working at right now has several vlans and trunking. However, from the beginning, no one turned on the VTP Domain. So whenever I put a new switch into the existing LAN, and setting up a vlan and trunking, I have to add them manually. So I'm thinking I'm enabling the VTP domain on all switches. We have 5500, 5002s, 2900XLs, 3500XLs. So here goes my question.. What is the procedure to enable the domain feature ? I know the CLI how to do it, but what should I beware of before I do it? What will happen when the vtp starts to advertising its vlan database to client switches, which have already all the infos stored in manually? Some vlans have their name on one switch(ex, TECH), but the others don't(vlan13) and would it be a problem ? Can i change a VTP revision number manually? Wonkyu Lee _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | |Mingzhou Nie :|: :|: Customer Support Engineer :|: :|: TAC, RTP, NC .:|:.:|:. Tel/Fax: 919.392.4732 C i s c o S y s t e m s Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATM/LANE on new switching exam.
I'd be familiar with the LANE components and AAL5 to be safe. Likely not a lot of questions, if any, though. --- Karl Thrasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have the CiscoPress book for Switching, which I am studying for, and = in the book they only define ATM and LANE. I noticed that in the exam = guide for the test it has ATM and LANE as test topics. I have asked = people that have taken the 1.0 version of the test, and they say that = there was quite a bit of ATM and LANE on that exam. Does anyone know if = 2.0 focuses on those technologies? Thanks, Karl. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CID beta exam results...
Eight weeks after the close of the beta - which should be towards the end of February. --- "Stull, Cory" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When and how will the CID "beta" exam takers find out our results? Thanks Cory _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Ethernet Question
I'm sure this will generate some chatter on the board, but here goes... I doubt that this is an IOS issue, but you could always try upgrading. Having said that... There is technically no specification for 10 Mbps full-duplex, so vendor support is based on proprietary methodologies and chipsets, and, most of the time, it works. My guess is that the IOS is 'smart' enough to know that the first card cannot handle the service, but 'thinks' the second card can (different chipsets). Yes, you can envoke 10 FD if the vendor allows it - however, I would use caution and only attempt it with end devices from the same family (read as Cisco is not enough - it needs to be acquired product family as warranted). In addition, I also recommend NEVER using auto-sense for speed or duplex. Ideally, just stick with 10 HD and allow the collisions. On a switched connection its not a big deal typically - otherwise, go to 100 FD on both platforms. Hope that helps. --- Talib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This command first appeared in Cisco IOS Release 11.1. This command was modified in Cisco IOS Release 11.3 to include information on FDDI full-duplex, single-mode and multimode port adapters. Use this command if the equipment on the other end is capable of full-duplex mode. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/inter_r/irdelay.htm#xtocid16273170 Darren Ward wrote: Hi All, Here's a question for one and all. A 3640 with a 1E2W running Enterprise IOS 11.3.8 does not have the full-duplex command available for the ethernet. However a different 3640 with a 4E card running IP Plus IOS 12.0.7T does support the full-duplex command on the ethernet ports. The question I have since I can't find it with a search on CCO is if the support for 'full-duplex' is based on the card or the IOS? Darren Ward _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shabbir S. Talib MCSE, CNE, CCNA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help
The RSM can be placed in any slot except for 1 (reserved for Supervisor) and 13 (reserved for ASP). If you plan on using the ATM cell switching backplane I would recommend placing the RSM in an upper slot (9-12 are cell backplane capable). The RSM will only communicate with a single 1.2 Gbps backplane of the 3 enabled with the Phoenix ASIC, so it doesn't matter which slot of the 2-12 it is placed in. The RSM will down an interface if no physical port in the logical VLAN is active. This means that the switch must be configured and the port must be active. As noted previously, this might be the source of the problem. Using the 'show interface' command will resolve this consideration. I have seen issues with older versions of code and mis-matched speed/duplex cause the RSM to fail to up/up. I'd recommend 4.5.5 at a minimum, and 12.0.9 for the RSM. Look at the ports also - use the switch to verify that it can see the 'connected' switch at Layer 2 - the RSM will not see things correctly if the Supervisor does not. --- fmxiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've always put the RSM in Slot 4... "Mark Krysinski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Are you sure you can plug the RSM into slot #2. I remember someone telling me to have it in slot 12. Please let me know if this is the case, our 5500 uses slot 2 for a back up sup III module and slot 12 for the RSM with Vip module. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of viathin Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: problems configuring a 5500 chasis please help I tried plugging in an active switch into vlan 100 and it still was saying that the vlan was not active or at least it appeared that way and i couldn't ping it. ""Brian Gleason"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 91qoiu$1kf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:91qoiu$1kf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Try plugging in a client machine into each of your vlans. I had this problem with a 6509 and once the client link state came up, the interface came up. ""viathin"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 91plqc$2ti$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:91plqc$2ti$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm having trouble configuring one router was wondering if you could help We are configuring a 5500 Chassis with: 1) WS X5530 Supervisor Engine (Slot 1) 2) WS X5302 Route Switch Module (Slot 2) 3) WS 5224 Switch ports (24 copper ports) A) We have defined: VLAN 100 on 3/1-4 VLAN 200 on 3/5-8 VLAN 300 on 3/9-12 VLAN 500 on 3/21-24 B) We have created the interfaces on the RSM: Config Terminal: 1) Interface vlan 100 ip address 192.170.1.1 255.255.255.0 2) Interface vlan 200 ip address 192.170.2.1 255.255.255.0 3) Interface vlan 300 ip address 192.170.3.1 255.255.255.0 5) Interface vlan 500 ip address 192.170.5.1 255.255.255.0 Performed a no shutdown command on all interfaces. C) We implemented "eigrp 1" as the routing protocol using: Interface vlan 100 router eigrp 1 network 192.170.1.0 network 192.170.2.0 network 192.170.3.0 network 192.170.5.0 The above was repeated for all vlans (100,200,300,500) D) 1) Can not ping any vlan interfaces. 2) Performed a "Show Interface" and it shows all interfaces are down. Thanks for looking into this and we appreciate any insight on this problem. Craig. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/
RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside
I've commented to Cisco on every single test, going as far as to include my eMail information in the comment. Priscilla has tried to contact Cisco as well, and without success as I understand it. It is unfortunate that Cisco does not seek out a few of the more active members of this board to provide Alpha information on the test and, better yet, acknowledge the fact that people care enough to comment on the examination. My fear is that they feel the don't have to, can now charge for the betas, and still maintain demand in the industry. I, for one, have seen a definate waining from enterprise customers for certifications - in fact, one of my smaller customers wrote a description stating "No CCIEs" recently under the guise that they wanted a junior operations person. Congrats on passing. --- Lou Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No I have NEVER gotten feedback... Never And I have commented on all my CCNA, DA, NP, and DP test... I have pointed out a few glaring incorrect answers/questions and a few I am pretty sure... I also asked on a few questions why ask this... is there a point to a CCxx knowing how to spell this? In the end it is not the contact I want but knowing that my comment was read and if I was right... the problem addressed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:02 PM To: Kevin Wigle; Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside I failed the CID first time through, passed it second time. On both tests there was a particular question, which fell into a "security" category ( in my mind anyway ) There were 3 wrong answers and one right answer. I will go to my grave convinced that there is an error on the test, and the real question is "which of these is NOT" rather than "which of these IS" BTW - anyone EVER gotten any feedback from Cisco on comments made during the test on test questions? I didn't think so. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:51 PM To: Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside Congratulations, another set of initials always feels good! I also believe it is a single question. I barely passed the CID when I took it but I got the security question correct. Couldn't say what it was though many have commented on the famous security question but no one seems to remember it. I believe it might not really be security related but labeled that way. anyway - congrats! Kevin Wigle ----- Original Message - From: "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Scott Brenner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Andre' Paree-Huff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11 Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.' Congrats. --- Scott Brenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the Security section. I have been trying to remember what question(s) were on security, but I can't figure it out... Scott Brenner CCNP/CCDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andre' Paree-Huff Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside Neal, I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21 points. I too received a = ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5 people that have = taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone one of them got a = ZERO for security issues. I agree I wonder if this was a misprint. "Neal Rauhauser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes allowed, and I walked out with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-) The exam has the following sections and I've listed my scores 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62% 2 Campus LAN design62% 3 TCP/IP network design88% 4 desktop protocol design 80% 5 WAN design 76% 6 SNA design 71% 7 security issues 0% (!)(more on this below) Andr=E9 Paree-Huff A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
