Re: ISDN Configuration - Real Life
What troubleshooting methodology have you used? Are you able to ping a known address/location on the internet? Have you run traceroutes to that location to see if the server is available? Do you have your network settings configured for the correct DNS server? Is the DNS server reachable. In sum, if all of your network interfaces are up and you can't reach a particular server, then you need to first determine if you can reach the target and if not, why not? dj "Adele Galus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Okay - I decided I need those experts again I have given it my > best. > > I'm configuring an ISDN circuit on a 804 connecting a private network to > an > ISP using PAP authentication. My interface are up on the e0, bri0:1, > dialer0 & > virtual-access1 interfaces. My dialer shows commands indicates > successful connections. > I also have an Public IP address that was negotiated. Problem I have > is: > Unable to browse & retrieve email. I have done all of the debug > commands, > I have the LED lights on correct - OK, NT1, LINE, LAN, LK1, CH1. > IOS software 12.0.1. Any ideas??? Appreciate the help. > Thank you very much. Adele > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Configuration - Real Life
Just a couple more items. Can you ping your default gateway? Run a nslookup on www.groupstudy.com and derive its IP address. If nslookup returns nothing, then you have no DNS setup to resolve the host name to an ip address. dj "Adele Galus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Okay - I decided I need those experts again I have given it my > best. > > I'm configuring an ISDN circuit on a 804 connecting a private network to > an > ISP using PAP authentication. My interface are up on the e0, bri0:1, > dialer0 & > virtual-access1 interfaces. My dialer shows commands indicates > successful connections. > I also have an Public IP address that was negotiated. Problem I have > is: > Unable to browse & retrieve email. I have done all of the debug > commands, > I have the LED lights on correct - OK, NT1, LINE, LAN, LK1, CH1. > IOS software 12.0.1. Any ideas??? Appreciate the help. > Thank you very much. Adele > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arca Emutel Solo ISDN simulator
I had called Arca to place an order for the Emulte lite ISDN simulator and they said that the Emutel Lite has been discontinued. They have come out with an Emutel Solo which also has ADSL simulation. Also the ISDN interfaces (S/T or U) are user configurable. Has any one used this simulator. Any comments on it? Please let me know Thanks Sammy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN LAPD versus PPP
Reading between the lines (see bellow) it seems that PPP is NOT encapsulated in LAPD. It looks like PPP starts encapsulating network traffic on its own as soon as LAPD has set up the ISDN call. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank You. "3.3. Link Dead (physical-layer not ready) The link necessarily begins and ends with this phase. When an external event (such as carrier detection or network administrator configuration) indicates that the physical-layer is ready to be used, PPP will proceed to the Link Establishment phase. During this phase, the LCP automaton (described later) will be in the Initial or Starting states. The transition to the Link Establishment phase will signal an Up event to the LCP automaton." Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:42 PM To: Pierre-Alex Subject: RE: ISDN LAPD versus PPP Here are some RFC's that you might read that might help. http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1661.txt http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2516.txt http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2878.txt Jim -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:11 PM To: Cisco Subject: ISDN LAPD versus PPP Is it a true statement to say that if your using ppp encapsulation on your interface, the ppp packets are encapsulated in the LAPD packets. If not, where else would ppp packets be encapsulated? I have found no document showing the relationship of ppp and LAPD if you have some reference I would greatly appreciate. Pierer-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odd EIGRP problem over ISDN
We have a backup ISDN line between two routers, and we want to use eigrp between them when the line is active (just a couple of routes, no big deal.) When the line comes up, my side doesn't receive ANY hellos, yet it receives updates! My side also does not see any neighbors appear, yet the far side sees me as a neighbor. Take a look: MyRouter#show ip eigrp traffic IP-EIGRP Traffic Statistics for process 2 Hellos sent/received: 1112/0 Updates sent/received: 0/247 Queries sent/received: 0/0 Replies sent/received: 0/0 Acks sent/received: 0/0 Input queue high water mark 1, 0 drops SIA-Queries sent/received: 0/0 SIA-Replies sent/received: 0/0 Debugging logs: 08:54:44: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:54:49: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:54:54: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:54:59: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2 08:54:59: AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 17/0 idbQ 0/0 08:54:59: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:54:59: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 08:54:59: AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0 08:55:04: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 08:55:04: AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0 08:55:04: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2 08:55:04: AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 17/0 idbQ 0/0 08:55:04: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:55:08: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 08:55:08: AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0 08:55:09: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2 08:55:09: AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 17/0 idbQ 0/0 08:55:09: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found 08:55:12: EIGRP: Sending HELLO on BRI0 08:55:12: AS 2, Flags 0x0, Seq 0/0 idbQ 0/0 iidbQ un/rely 0/0 08:55:14: EIGRP: Received UPDATE on BRI0 nbr 10.120.226.2 08:55:14: AS 2, Flags 0x1, Seq 17/0 idbQ 0/0 08:55:14: EIGRP: Neighbor(10.120.226.2) not yet found Why am I getting updates but not hellos? Why am I successfully receiving his updates but not acknowledgements? Neither of us have an access list blocking eigrp, obviously, or none of this would work. Every interface on my router is passive except for the BRI, and I'm redistributing a couple of static routes. Any ideas? I've checked CCO for bug reports (I'm running 12.1(5) on a 2520, they have 12.0(5) on a 2600.) No luck there. Any help would be greatly appreciated! John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN LAPD versus PPP
LAPD is used on the ISDN D channel. PPP (or HDLC or whatever) is used on the B channels. SO neither is encapsulated in the other. The Paquet book for BCRAN has a useful table covering what protocols are used at which layers on which channels, which I have attempted to reproduce below... D channel B channel Layer 3 DSS1 (Q.931) IP/IPX Layer 2 LAPD (Q.921) HDLC/PPP/FR/LAPB Layer 1 I.430/I.431/ANSI T1.601 Hope that helps, JMcL -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 03/01/2001 09:27 am --- "Pierre-Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 30/12/2000 10:45:47 am Please respond to "Pierre-Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: ISDN LAPD versus PPP Reading between the lines (see bellow) it seems that PPP is NOT encapsulated in LAPD. It looks like PPP starts encapsulating network traffic on its own as soon as LAPD has set up the ISDN call. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank You. "3.3. Link Dead (physical-layer not ready) The link necessarily begins and ends with this phase. When an external event (such as carrier detection or network administrator configuration) indicates that the physical-layer is ready to be used, PPP will proceed to the Link Establishment phase. During this phase, the LCP automaton (described later) will be in the Initial or Starting states. The transition to the Link Establishment phase will signal an Up event to the LCP automaton." Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:42 PM To: Pierre-Alex Subject: RE: ISDN LAPD versus PPP Here are some RFC's that you might read that might help. http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1661.txt http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2516.txt http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2878.txt Jim -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:11 PM To: Cisco Subject: ISDN LAPD versus PPP Is it a true statement to say that if your using ppp encapsulation on your interface, the ppp packets are encapsulated in the LAPD packets. If not, where else would ppp packets be encapsulated? I have found no document showing the relationship of ppp and LAPD if you have some reference I would greatly appreciate. Pierer-Alex _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN
So here's the scenario...Numerous routers in a central site connected to other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN. Question: What is the best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario? My thoughts were to run EIGRP over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface, and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative distance for ISDN backup) Thoughs, comments, suggestions, ridicules? ;-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eigrp, frame relay, and ISDN
So here's the scenario...Numerous routers in a central site connected to other remote sites via frame-relay with backup ISDN. Question: What is the best way to implement EIGRP in this scenario? My thoughts were to run EIGRP over the frame, set up the dialer interface / bri as a passive interface, and use floating static routes (static route with higher administrative distance for ISDN backup) Thoughs, comments, suggestions, ridicules? ;-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN Simulator - A Cheaper way
I'm sure we've beat this poor horse until it's dead in this newsgroup, but I visit a site tcpmag.com (if that wasn't a blatant plug) that had an article on saving yourself $2000.00. Below is the link for the article. http://209.134.33.133/column.asp?id=LSU&cid=71 Thanks, Joey Fowler We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. But it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents. - Eric Hoffer (1902-1983 American Author & Philosopher) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: troubleshooting isdn dial in
Hello Beth, Looking at your sh isdn status output, i think the problem is at layer 3. I would suggest that you use the deb ppp neg and deg ppp auth. This should let you know if authentication is successful and also the ipcp negotiation. Also, you can use the deb isdn q931, this does give a lot of info. As regards your wait for carrier timeouts, use the "dialer wait-for-carrier-time 15" command on your dialer interface. I hope this is helpful. Cheers Cyrax. "beth shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > If i do a sh isdn status and get the following:The > current ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni1 > ISDN BRI0 interface > Layer 1 Status: > ACTIVE > Layer 2 Status: > TEI = 96, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > TEI = 97, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > Spid Status: > TEI 96, ces = 1, state = 5(init) > spid1 configured, no LDN, spid1 sent, > spid1 valid > Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 61, tid > = 1 > TEI 97, ces = 2, state = 5(init) > spid2 configured, no LDN, spid2 sent, > spid2 valid > Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 5, tid > = 1 > Layer 3 Status: > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1 > CCB: callid=0x0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=0 > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1 > > > but when i do a show dialer all call attempts show > FAILURE would this point towards problem with > isdn line??! > > please help! > Beth > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN D channel packet switchin
Hi, all I am reading the 2nd edition of Caslow's book, and am on the ISDN chapter. In one sentence, he states that the D channel may be used for packet switching. I have read other texts that have said the same thing, but I have yet to find one that expounds on it. This seems quite contrary to the countless instructors, books, etc. that have stated that the D channel is NOT for data transport, and that the B channels (and H channels under PRI) are the only ones used to move data. By data, I mean data, voice, video. So, here's my guess: When these texts say that the D channel may be used for packet switching, I envision a X.25 type setup where the switches all switch "stuff" between themselves? No? Who's laughing? How about this: Special applications (devices) may use the D channel to transport data when it's not being used for D channel stuff like talkin' to the switch? No? How about this: Caslow, et al are making fun of me again. No? TIA, Charles _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Practice lab & ISDN
Eric, Hi! You definitely want (2) ISDN routers to simulate ISDN properly. -B "Eric Gunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello, > I am going to be taking out a loan and buying a CCIE practice lab early > next month. > I have a question about ISDN in a CCIE practice lab. I have an ISDN line at > home which I use for Internet access. Is 1 Cisco isdn router enough for > purposes of lab practice? Or is it a good idea to have 2 ISDN routers and > an ISDN simulator to configure both ends of an ISDN connection? > > In this type of scenario is the money spent on an ISDN simulator better > spent in other areas? > > Thank You, > > -Eric Gunn > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN BRI Dialer Problem
A few things came to mind. First, my telco (Bell South) has been notorious for years about not telling customers about trailing zeros on spids. (Just something to check.) Second, are you sure your LDN, dialed number and phone number match etc.?? Third, starting this month there are new phases of 10 digit dialing within the same area code being required in service area's nationwide. Cincinnatti and Lexington near me will be adding a new area code and 10 digit dialing in a few weeks. It won't be long till we all have to dial 10 digits to call next door. Anyway, your LDN may need the area code or you may need to add the area code to the dial string. Rodgers Moore, CCDP, CCNP-Security ""Kari Nurdin"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi All, I need help, > > I have a central site and a remote site in a ISDN BRI bridged environment. > I have over and over verified the configuration and it all looks fine. I > have a number of installs that are similar configurations and they all > function(I have compared the configs). > > I am not able to connect, the following message echos: > "02:37:133143986176: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > 02:37:14602064: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > 02:37:158913789952: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > " > > When running the debug dialer command the following message echos: > "02:35:28: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause bridge (0xE0E0) > 02:35:28: BRI0 DDR: Attempting to dial 9965 > 02:35:141733920768: BRI0: wait for isdn carrier timeout, call id=0x8276 > 02:35:33: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause bridge (0xE0E0)" > > I am researching this problem(looking over all my books), I have spoke to > the telco and they say all is good, show isdn status shows: > Georgian_H1#show isdn stat > Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni > ISDN BRI0 interface > dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni > Layer 1 Status: > ACTIVE > Layer 2 Status: > TEI = 79, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > TEI = 80, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > TEI 79, ces = 1, state = 8(established) > spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid > TEI 80, ces = 2, state = 8(established) > spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid > Layer 3 Status: > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1 > CCB:callid=82A0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=2, calltype=DATA > The Free Channel Mask: 0x8001 > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1 > Georgian_H1 > > I don't want to make this post to long, however, if anyone has any ideas. > Thanks in advance. > > P.S. This problem is a good one for me because I am currently studing for > the BCRAN. > > Kari > CCNA CCDA > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN BRI Dialer Problem
Kari, The first thing that I would look at would be the spids that your sending to the switch as it shows that they are INVALID.You know that your switch type is correct and fine in that your receiving TEI = Terminal Endpoint Identifiers from the switch on that part. how did you configure the SPIDS on the config.Could you post a config of some sort as this looks to be the problem, or before you do that check with Telco to see if they are seeing the correct SPIDS coming from the CPE Equipment.If they aren't then shut down the interface and then bring it back up, and see what happens.You may have to reload the router.If they are seeing the correct SPID's in the ISDN switch coming from the router then verify them with what you have programmed in the router then T/S as you would normally.Also listen to what Rodgers Moore was saying as I know that in the major cities in Texas, they are about to start going to the 10-Digit Dial plan also.Hope this helps. Also do you have the spids programmed as follows isdn spid1 <3 digit area code>< 7 digit dial number >< 4 digit trailing 0's or 1's or 01's > < LDN > isdn spid2 <3 digit area code>< 7 digit dial number >< 4 digit trailing 0's or 1's or 01's > < LDN > ex: isdn spid1 9995550101 555 isdn spid2 9995550101 555 -jek- "Kari Nurdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi All, I need help, > > I have a central site and a remote site in a ISDN BRI bridged environment. > I have over and over verified the configuration and it all looks fine. I > have a number of installs that are similar configurations and they all > function(I have compared the configs). > > I am not able to connect, the following message echos: > "02:37:133143986176: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > 02:37:14602064: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > 02:37:158913789952: %ISDN-4-INVALID_CALLEDNUMBER: Interface BR0, Ignoring > call, LDN and Called Party Number mismatch > " > > When running the debug dialer command the following message echos: > "02:35:28: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause bridge (0xE0E0) > 02:35:28: BRI0 DDR: Attempting to dial 9965 > 02:35:141733920768: BRI0: wait for isdn carrier timeout, call id=0x8276 > 02:35:33: BRI0 DDR: Dialing cause bridge (0xE0E0)" > > I am researching this problem(looking over all my books), I have spoke to > the telco and they say all is good, show isdn status shows: > Georgian_H1#show isdn stat > Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni > ISDN BRI0 interface > dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni > Layer 1 Status: > ACTIVE > Layer 2 Status: > TEI = 79, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > TEI = 80, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED > TEI 79, ces = 1, state = 8(established) > spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid > TEI 80, ces = 2, state = 8(established) > spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid > Layer 3 Status: > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 1 > CCB:callid=82A0, sapi=0, ces=1, B-chan=2, calltype=DATA > The Free Channel Mask: 0x8001 > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 1 > Georgian_H1 > > I don't want to make this post to long, however, if anyone has any ideas. > Thanks in advance. > > P.S. This problem is a good one for me because I am currently studing for > the BCRAN. > > Kari > CCNA CCDA > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: ISDN Terminal Adpater
Hi, Thanks for your reply but 3Com/USR which can hook up to PC convert from Async. to ISDN and my serial port on 2501 is sync. serial port Can this 3co/USR convert from Sync. serial to ISDN ? Do you know the part # Or the Model of this 3Com/USR product ?? thanks Best Regards Mohamed Abdallah > >From: "Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:02:59 -0400 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal Adpater > > >"Mohamed Abdallah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> Hello, >> >> >> I have a Cisco Router 2501 ( One Ethernet + Two Sync. serial ports ) >> I want to connect one its serial port ( NON ISDN port ) to ISDN BRI >> line provided by the our PTT >> >> >> Does anyone know a product ( ISDN Terminal Adapter ) can do this >> function for me ? >> >> Note that my PTT provide us with the NT1 Equipment, so I need a T.A. to >> convert from Sync. serial to BRI S/T ports > >Any standard ISDN TA/"modem" just like one you would hook up to your PC will >work fine. Does 3Com/USR still make such? > > >**NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to >href="http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html">http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html >_ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: href="http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html">http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: href="http://www.groupstudy.com">http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN BRI Load threshold question...
interface dialer 5 dialer string 5551212 dialer load-threshold 127 I understand that this will bring up the second B channel when the load reaches 50% but my question is: How does it know what number to dial? I have only configure one number using the dialer string. How does my router know what number belongs to the second B channel? Many thanks..vlan2 **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN - I can't ping bri0
Can you please help here ? >From routerA I try to ping RouterB and ping is unsuccessfull ? #show dialer displays "Last status:Fail", Last called: 00:00:16 #show isdn status seems OK on both routers; State=MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED spid1 sent, spid1 valid... #show int bri0 bri0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)... ROUTERA hostname RouterA ! enable password cisco username RouterB password 7 03075 isdn switch-type basic-ni1 ! int s0 no ip add ! int bri0 ip add 196.1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 encap ppp isdn spid1 5101 8995101 isdn spid2 5102 8995102 dialer idle-timeout 90 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name RouterB broadcast 8995201 dialer load-threshold 1 dialer-group 1 no fair-queue ppp auth chap ppp multilink ! no ip classless dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 password cisco login line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end ROUTERB hostname RouterB ! enable password cisco username RouterA password 7 03075 isdn switch-type basic-ni1 ! int s0 no ip add ! int bri0 ip add 196.1.1.1.2 255.255.255.0 encap ppp isdn spid1 5101 8995201 isdn spid2 5102 8995202 dialer idle-timeout 90 dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name RouterA dialer-group 1 no fair-queue ppp auth chap ppp multilink ! no ip classless dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit ! line con 0 password cisco login line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login ! end **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN backup for increased bandwidth
We have a site with a quirky FRelay burst pattern. Although they burst very rarely, the uers seem to all be all too aware of the times when it is happening. Our usage numbers dont justify bumping up their CIR so I've been investigating alternatives. I was wondering if anyone out there uses ISDN backup to provide more bandwith when the FRelay circuits get saturated. This seems like it might be a good solution since it could help out during episodes of bursting. But is it practical financially? How much more expensive if an ISDN connection than a Frame Relayat 128k CIR? This particular site would be calling from Boston to Santa Clara. Any insights, comments, etc are greatly appreciated. If I get enough responses, I'll post a summary. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
Thanks Brian! I have a 2524 and a 2516. Do you perhaps know the part numbers that I need to make your setup work as outlined below? Many thanks. "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Personally, the simulators seem too expensive. For example, you *might* > be able to get one for like $1500.00. Well to get an ISDN line at your > house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month. > > You only need 1 ISDN line. It has 2 channels. You just use an external > NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between > the two. Is cheaper imho. > > Brian > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for the > > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, what > > type? > > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not new? > > All advice is appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
did you check out the CIM CDs that ciscopress just released? the routing ones are pretty good -Original Message- From: FRS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for the CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, what type? I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not new? All advice is appreciated. Thank you _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
Personally, the simulators seem too expensive. For example, you *might* be able to get one for like $1500.00. Well to get an ISDN line at your house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month. You only need 1 ISDN line. It has 2 channels. You just use an external NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between the two. Is cheaper imho. Brian On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for the > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, what > type? > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not new? > All advice is appreciated. > > Thank you > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > Thanks Brian! > I have a 2524 and a 2516. > Do you perhaps know the part numbers that I need to make your setup work as > outlined below? no special part numbers or setup. If you have a 2524 ISDN S/T module then you are set. Both routers have S/T interfaces. Then you need to go get an NT1. Each S/T interface plugs into an NT1 port. > Many thanks. > > "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Personally, the simulators seem too expensive. For example, you *might* > > be able to get one for like $1500.00. Well to get an ISDN line at your > > house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month. > > > > You only need 1 ISDN line. It has 2 channels. You just use an external > > NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between > > the two. Is cheaper imho. > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for > the > > > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, > what > > > type? > > > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > > > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not > new? > > > All advice is appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --- > > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Network Administrator > > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
An Adtran Atlas 550 is alot less expensive and you only loose the ability to have DS-3 interfaces. But you'll still spend more than installing a couple of BRI's for 6 months. I doubt you'll find any Atlases on the used market. Rodgers Moore ""FRS"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8smth4$kvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8smth4$kvk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for the > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, what > type? > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not new? > All advice is appreciated. > > Thank you > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
It might be cheaper out of the pocket but after 2 months or more , a simulator is cheaper since you can sell it (if it's in decent shape) for about 80% of the price you had paid for at ebay. A teltone simulator can be bought at ebay at around $1850 and you can probably sell it back at around $1700... "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Personally, the simulators seem too expensive. For example, you *might* > be able to get one for like $1500.00. Well to get an ISDN line at your > house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month. > > You only need 1 ISDN line. It has 2 channels. You just use an external > NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between > the two. Is cheaper imho. > > Brian > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation for the > > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, what > > type? > > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not new? > > All advice is appreciated. > > > > Thank you > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
Or you could buy it brand new from me for $1749, and sell it on E-bay for around $1749... $1749 is my everyday price on the TelTone Demonstrator model... Dale [=`) >From: "Kenneth Lorenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Kenneth Lorenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:08:01 -0400 > >It might be cheaper out of the pocket but after 2 months or more , a >simulator is cheaper since you can sell it (if it's in decent shape) for >about 80% of the price you had paid for at ebay. A teltone simulator can be >bought at ebay at around $1850 and you can probably sell it back at around >$1700... > >"Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Personally, the simulators seem too expensive. For example, you *might* > > be able to get one for like $1500.00. Well to get an ISDN line at your > > house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month. > > > > You only need 1 ISDN line. It has 2 channels. You just use an external > > NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between > > the two. Is cheaper imho. > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation >for >the > > > CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes, >what > > > type? > > > I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI > > > interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not >new? > > > All advice is appreciated. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > _ > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --- > > Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Network Administrator > > ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically !
does your configuration have an idle-timeout command. if so then when there is no insteresting traffic it will timeout in the seconds instructed what protocols are you routing...ipx, ip ??? >From: "Hans Schimek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Hans Schimek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: ISDN call disconnects automatically ! >Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 16:48:17 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [208.32.175.78] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBBCECEFA00B8D82197DED020AF4E11D224; Sun Nov 05 08:01:38 2000 >Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) >with SMTP id KAA04026;Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:57:20 -0500 >Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:51:03 >-0500 >Received: (from listserver@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >KAA03746GroupStudy Mailer; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:51:03 -0500 >Received: from server.local (N237P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at >[213.33.29.159])by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id >KAA03729GroupStudy Mailer; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 10:51:01 -0500 >Received: from homer ([192.168.0.3])by server.local (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE >Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with SMTP id eA5Gs4J00736for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, >5 Nov 2000 17:54:04 +0100 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 05 08:02:03 2000 >X-Authentication-Warning: server.local: Host [192.168.0.3] claimed to be >homer >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 >Importance: Normal >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Precedence: bulk >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by groupstudy.com id >KAA04026 > >ISDN calls get disconncted after some time - >though traffic is flowing - and the interface >is NOT idle - so it should not be disconncted - >or is there a timer which disconnects all calls >after a while ? > > >thanx in advance > > >00:42:199726942860: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x8012 >00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: Event: Call to was hung up. >00:42:199726942732: ISDN BR1/0: process_disc_ack(): call id 0x8012, ces 1, >call >type DATA >00:42:197568495663: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI1/0:1 disconnected >from 20 > 2504, call lasted 120 seconds >00:42:199726942540: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI1/0:1, changed state to >down >00:42:199724968501: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK call_id 0x8012 >00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK: call type is DATA >00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI1/0:1, changed >stat >e to down >00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Virtual-Access1, >chang >ed state to down > > > > > >= >Hans Schimek > >Student >Fachhochschule St. Pölten f. >Telekommunikation und Medien > >mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gsm : +43 699 10605315 > fax : +43 3613 2311 4 > icq : 22308773 > www : www.schimek.net > >= > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Teltone ISDN Demo config help
Group, I am trying to configure the Teltone ISDN demonstrator, however when I connect the bri int to it and do a sh isdn stat I get the following: router1#sh isdn stat Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni ISDN BRI0 interface dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni Layer 1 Status: ACTIVE Layer 2 Status: TEI = 116, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED TEI = 117, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED TEI 116, ces = 1, state = 8(established) spid1 configured, spid1 sent, spid1 NOT valid TEI 117, ces = 2, state = 8(established) spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid Layer 3 Status: 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0 The Free Channel Mask: 0x8003 Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0 This config does not seem to be right since my spid's are not valid, I have double checked the spids and DN's. Any config tips on the switch ? Thanks in advance, George _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically !
I had a similar problem last year. The trouble was a result of the demarc being too far from the router (about 500 feet). I resolved the problem by removing the "ppp multilink" statement which bound both lines (SPIDs) into one connection and let them connect separately. Also, add a "dialer load-threshold 2 either" statement if this solution works for you. That statement will ensure connection of each line after only 2 bytes (bits?) of data have transversed the link. This needs to be done on both ends. Hope this helps, David Armstrong ""Hans Schimek"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > ISDN calls get disconncted after some time - > though traffic is flowing - and the interface > is NOT idle - so it should not be disconncted - > or is there a timer which disconnects all calls > after a while ? > > > thanx in advance > > > 00:42:199726942860: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x8012 > 00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: Event: Call to was hung up. > 00:42:199726942732: ISDN BR1/0: process_disc_ack(): call id 0x8012, ces 1, > call > type DATA > 00:42:197568495663: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI1/0:1 disconnected > from 20 > 2504, call lasted 120 seconds > 00:42:199726942540: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI1/0:1, changed state to > down > 00:42:199724968501: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK call_id 0x8012 > 00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK: call type is DATA > 00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI1/0:1, changed > stat > e to down > 00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Virtual-Access1, > chang > ed state to down > > > > > > = > Hans Schimek > > Student > Fachhochschule St. Pölten f. > Telekommunikation und Medien > > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gsm : +43 699 10605315 > fax : +43 3613 2311 4 > icq : 22308773 > www : www.schimek.net > > = > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically !
>From: "David Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "David Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically ! > >I had a similar problem last year. The trouble was a result of the demarc >being too far from the router (about 500 feet). I resolved the problem by >removing the "ppp multilink" statement which bound both lines (SPIDs) into >one connection and let them connect separately. Also, add a "dialer >load-threshold 2 either" statement if this solution works for you. That >statement will ensure connection of each line after only 2 bytes (bits?) of >data have transversed the link. This needs to be done on both ends. > >Hope this helps, > >David Armstrong That's interesting that a problem caused by the distance to the demarc should be resolved by disabling PPP multilink..but i've seen stranger things too. Just a note on your statement regarding the dialer load-threshold statement: The number you put at the end of this statement can be of any value between 1 and 255, and is not really a measure of bytes or bits. Its a value used when comparing the traffic load on the first B channel when deciding when to activate the second B channel. For example, a value of 200 would mean that you want the second B channel to be activated when the load on the first one reaches about 78% (200/255*100). Its needed on the dialing side. A peer that only receives calls wouln't need the statement. Hans, Have you been able to run other debugs such as debug dialer or debug isdn q931? These could possible give output that could be eye-opening. The call here is disconnected after 120 seconds which is also the default value for the dialer idle-timeout. But you menioned that you do have traffic going across at that time. Can you post the relevant configs for both ends? If there's nothing wrong with them, you could be running into a bug where the idle timer is not reset despite interesting traffic. I don't have the ID right now, but know there is one. Michael a o > >""Hans Schimek"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > ISDN calls get disconncted after some time - > > though traffic is flowing - and the interface > > is NOT idle - so it should not be disconncted - > > or is there a timer which disconnects all calls > > after a while ? > > > > > > thanx in advance > > > > > > 00:42:199726942860: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x8012 > > 00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: Event: Call to was hung up. > > 00:42:199726942732: ISDN BR1/0: process_disc_ack(): call id 0x8012, ces >1, > > call > > type DATA > > 00:42:197568495663: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI1/0:1 disconnected > > from 20 > > 2504, call lasted 120 seconds > > 00:42:199726942540: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI1/0:1, changed state to > > down > > 00:42:199724968501: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK call_id >0x8012 > > 00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK: call type is DATA > > 00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface BRI1/0:1, >changed > > stat > > e to down > > 00:42:47: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface >Virtual-Access1, > > chang > > ed state to down > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > Hans Schimek > > > > Student > > Fachhochschule St. Pölten f. > > Telekommunikation und Medien > > > > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > gsm : +43 699 10605315 > > fax : +43 3613 2311 4 > > icq : 22308773 > > www : www.schimek.net > > > > = > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically !
Michael, I knew the bits and bytes didn't sound right but I couldn't remember what the number represented. I didn't go into it very much in detail on the news server but the issue was a timing one. In running debug isdn q931 I could see the link connect on the second channel but would receive an error that stated the remote site had disconnected the call. Unfortunately, the link was open and both channels were connected. This could be seen by looking at q921 debug packets which never had any errors. It made no difference which direction I called or which number dialed first. As soon as the load threshold was achieved and the second channel came up, no data would transverse the link. I began to look at timing issues when I found that slowing the connection speed to 56k (even though they were 64k) kept it up for a longer period of time (2 to 5 minutes vs. immediately upon connecting the 2nd channels). I ended up going into Cisco's third tier support with the results of the debug messages and their response was basically that there can be strange timing problems with ISDN when their is a long distance to the demarc. Also, the phone installer said it was 1000 feet. He may have been right but it didn't look even close to that to me. Thanks for clarifying the dialer load-threshold setting. David Armstrong ""michael owuor"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > >From: "David Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "David Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: ISDN call disconnects automatically ! > > > > >I had a similar problem last year. The trouble was a result of the demarc > >being too far from the router (about 500 feet). I resolved the problem by > >removing the "ppp multilink" statement which bound both lines (SPIDs) into > >one connection and let them connect separately. Also, add a "dialer > >load-threshold 2 either" statement if this solution works for you. That > >statement will ensure connection of each line after only 2 bytes (bits?) of > >data have transversed the link. This needs to be done on both ends. > > > >Hope this helps, > > > >David Armstrong > > > That's interesting that a problem caused by the distance to the demarc > should be resolved by disabling PPP multilink..but i've seen stranger > things too. > > Just a note on your statement regarding the dialer load-threshold statement: > The number you put at the end of this statement can be of any value between > 1 and 255, and is not really a measure of bytes or bits. Its a value used > when comparing the traffic load on the first B channel when deciding when to > activate the second B channel. For example, a value of 200 would mean that > you want the second B channel to be activated when the load on the first one > reaches about 78% (200/255*100). Its needed on the dialing side. A peer that > only receives calls wouln't need the statement. > > Hans, > Have you been able to run other debugs such as debug dialer or debug isdn > q931? These could possible give output that could be eye-opening. The call > here is disconnected after 120 seconds which is also the default value for > the dialer idle-timeout. But you menioned that you do have traffic going > across at that time. Can you post the relevant configs for both ends? If > there's nothing wrong with them, you could be running into a bug where the > idle timer is not reset despite interesting traffic. I don't have the ID > right now, but know there is one. > > Michael a o > > > > > > >""Hans Schimek"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > ISDN calls get disconncted after some time - > > > though traffic is flowing - and the interface > > > is NOT idle - so it should not be disconncted - > > > or is there a timer which disconnects all calls > > > after a while ? > > > > > > > > > thanx in advance > > > > > > > > > 00:42:199726942860: ISDN BR1/0: received HOST_DISCONNECT call_id 0x8012 > > > 00:42:197568495616: ISDN BR1/0: Event: Call to was hung up. > > > 00:42:199726942732: ISDN BR1/0: process_disc_ack(): call id 0x8012, ces > >1, > > > call > > > type DATA > > > 00:42:197568495663: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface BRI1/0:1 disconnected > > > from 20 > > > 2504, call lasted 120 seconds > > > 00:42:199726942540: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface BRI1/0:1, changed state to > > > down > > > 00:42:1997249685
Re: help on ISDN question
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Sisqo wrote: > If you have a T1 in North America and you are using ISDN to connect to > Europe, what do you use to connect? The long distance network Brian > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Cisco to Shiva
Perhaps this will help A Shiva AccessPort tries SPAP for authentication first (default), but this is not NAK'd correctly by the Cisco device, which expects CHAP. Solution: Set the Shiva AccessPort to use only CHAP as the authentication protocol. 1. Go into admin mode, and enter the following commands: net isdn2 se listener PAP: no CHAP: yes SPAP: no My CHAP identifying name : lokal host name Simultaneous two way authentication: no Av Neil Bennett wrote: > Hi, > > Wondering if someone could help. I have been trying to set up a 3620 to dial > in to a shiva intergrator by using dialer profiles. > The router was configured using dialer map's but for some reason appeared to > be very slow to open the isdn line up (to actually open it, not the PPP > stage) using dialer profiles the line open's quickly but doesnt connect, > debugging ppp auth returns nothing and debuging ppp neg shows the shiva > rejecting chap. The shiva does work using chap when using dialer map's on > the cisco. > Im guessing that the problem is with my config of the dialer profiles, but i > cant work out why. > > Here is dialer interface config, > > interface dialer0 > ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 > encapsulation ppp > dialer remote-name shiva > dialer pool 1 > dialer-group 1 > no cdp enable > ppp authentication chap > > What i dont understand is why it doesnt even reach the authentication > stage.the person supporting the shiva's isnt gonna change the config > coz it already works that end!! > > TIA, > > Neil > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:54:57AM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > The Router works fine with ISDN-Callins. > I'm looking for an IOS-Configuration: The router works with > analog-callins. > If you have ideas, tips or a config then please send it to me. Thanks. Are you after Analogue callins no the ISDN line or on the Auxilliary async line? The former isn't possible on a 1700, for the latter see: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/76/9.html -- Ryan O'Connell - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.complicity.co.uk I'm not losing my mind, no I'm not changing my lines, I'm just learning new things with the passage of time _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
Ryan O'Connell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:54:57AM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > ? The Router works fine with ISDN-Callins. > ? I'm looking for an IOS-Configuration: The router works with > ? analog-callins. > ? If you have ideas, tips or a config then please send it to me. Thanks. > > Are you after Analogue callins no the ISDN line or on the Auxilliary > async line? The former isn't possible on a 1700, for the latter see: > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/76/9.html > I have an (Euro-)ISDN-line. In basics the router can't handle analogue callins on an ISDN-line. My idea was: 1. Analogue callin goes to the BRI-Interface 2. BRI send it to the WIC-Interface 3. The modem is mounted on WIC and on AUX => the callin goes from WIC through the modem into the AUX 4. The result is: I have an analogue call on the AUX-Port. To configure an analogue callin on AUX-Port is not a problem. I don't know is it possible. Regards, Holger. -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:29:30PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > I have an (Euro-)ISDN-line. In basics the router can't handle analogue callins on an > ISDN-line. > My idea was: > 1. Analogue callin goes to the BRI-Interface > 2. BRI send it to the WIC-Interface > 3. The modem is mounted on WIC and on AUX > => the callin goes from WIC through the modem into the AUX > 4. The result is: I have an analogue call on the AUX-Port. To configure an analogue > callin on AUX-Port is not a problem. > I don't know is it possible. No, this isn't possible. -- Ryan O'Connell - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.complicity.co.uk I'm not losing my mind, no I'm not changing my lines, I'm just learning new things with the passage of time _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
Ryan O'Connell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:29:30PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > > I have an (Euro-)ISDN-line. In basics the router can't handle analogue callins on >an > > ISDN-line. > > My idea was: > > 1. Analogue callin goes to the BRI-Interface > > 2. BRI send it to the WIC-Interface > > 3. The modem is mounted on WIC and on AUX > > => the callin goes from WIC through the modem into the AUX > > 4. The result is: I have an analogue call on the AUX-Port. To configure an analogue > > callin on AUX-Port is not a problem. > > I don't know is it possible. > > No, this isn't possible. > You know other ways to connect analogue callins through ISDN-lines ? -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
The digital modems in the 36x0 can -Original Message- From: Holger Eichhorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 26 maart 2001 14:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ryan O'Connell Subject: Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem Ryan O'Connell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:29:30PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > > I have an (Euro-)ISDN-line. In basics the router can't handle analogue callins on an > > ISDN-line. > > My idea was: > > 1. Analogue callin goes to the BRI-Interface > > 2. BRI send it to the WIC-Interface > > 3. The modem is mounted on WIC and on AUX > > => the callin goes from WIC through the modem into the AUX > > 4. The result is: I have an analogue call on the AUX-Port. To configure an analogue > > callin on AUX-Port is not a problem. > > I don't know is it possible. > > No, this isn't possible. > You know other ways to connect analogue callins through ISDN-lines ? -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
Erwin Vollering wrote: > The digital modems in the 36x0 can > > :-) I know that. We use it in our company with a C3660 (PRI-Interface and digi-modems). I mean a way with my equipment: C1750, BRI, AUX, WIC, Modem, Serial-Interface Like LEGO: What can we do with this stones ? A wall, a train, a car, all what we want. Best regards, Holger. > -Original Message- > From: Holger Eichhorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: maandag 26 maart 2001 14:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ryan O'Connell > Subject: Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem > > Ryan O'Connell wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:29:30PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > > > I have an (Euro-)ISDN-line. In basics the router can't handle analogue > callins on an > > > ISDN-line. > > > My idea was: > > > 1. Analogue callin goes to the BRI-Interface > > > 2. BRI send it to the WIC-Interface > > > 3. The modem is mounted on WIC and on AUX > > > => the callin goes from WIC through the modem into the AUX > > > 4. The result is: I have an analogue call on the AUX-Port. To configure > an analogue > > > callin on AUX-Port is not a problem. > > > I don't know is it possible. > > > > No, this isn't possible. > > > > You know other ways to connect analogue callins through ISDN-lines ? > > -- > Holger Eichhorn > IT Administration > CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH > http://www.csksoftware.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:50:25PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > Erwin Vollering wrote: > > > The digital modems in the 36x0 can > > > > > > :-) > I know that. We use it in our company with a C3660 (PRI-Interface and digi-modems). > I mean a way with my equipment: C1750, BRI, AUX, WIC, Modem, Serial-Interface > Like LEGO: What can we do with this stones ? A wall, a train, a car, all what we >want. No, there is no way of doing this with your hardware. -- Ryan O'Connell - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.complicity.co.uk I'm not losing my mind, no I'm not changing my lines, I'm just learning new things with the passage of time _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
Ryan O'Connell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:50:25PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > > Erwin Vollering wrote: > > > > > The digital modems in the 36x0 can > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > I know that. We use it in our company with a C3660 (PRI-Interface and digi-modems). > > I mean a way with my equipment: C1750, BRI, AUX, WIC, Modem, Serial-Interface > > Like LEGO: What can we do with this stones ? A wall, a train, a car, all what we >want. > > No, there is no way of doing this with your hardware. > I don't give up. What can I do with my VIC-Card (sorry, I have a voice-card, not a WIC) ? I think, the VIC converts the ISDN-call to an analogue-call. And I have to use the modem on the voice-interface to bring the analogue signal through the modem and the AUX-Port into the router. Or not ?! Regards, Holger. -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Euro-)ISDN->Cisco1750->Modem
Ryan O'Connell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 02:50:25PM +0200, Holger Eichhorn wrote: > > Erwin Vollering wrote: > > > > > The digital modems in the 36x0 can > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > I know that. We use it in our company with a C3660 (PRI-Interface and digi-modems). > > I mean a way with my equipment: C1750, BRI, AUX, WIC, Modem, Serial-Interface > > Like LEGO: What can we do with this stones ? A wall, a train, a car, all what we >want. > > No, there is no way of doing this with your hardware. Sorry, I have a VIC (voice card), not a WIC. Have you ideas now ? Regards, Holger. -- Holger Eichhorn IT Administration CSK - Computer Services Kaisha (Deutschland) GmbH http://www.csksoftware.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need help with ISDN simulator.
Hi! Everyone, I got the 2 2503 routers and Teltone ILS-2000 ISDN line simulator. I try to learn the lab # 2 in the book All-in-One CCIE Lab study guide. I follow all the step in the book but I can not ping from RouterA to RouterB. Can you show me how to use the simulator? TIA Howard _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN BRI Channel Separation
Hi, If you configure your router without a threshold statement only one channel will come up. The channel it choses is dependant on the ISDN switch as I understand it. You can configure the BRI to place two separate calls. Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 03:17:23 PM, Ash Aslam wrote: > Hi Group!! > > I would like to know if it's possible to separate the two ISDN B Channels so > that one remains active whilst the other one is free. I have checked on the > Cisco web site and Cisco press books but could not find anything on how to > configure the BRI Channels separately. > > Can someone pls shed some light by providing a small config or point me in > the right direction. > > Thanks & kind Regards, > Ash > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN switch type in Korea
Hi All, I tryong to apply for an ISDN PRI line in SEOUL. The providetell me that the switch type use is "PBX". I was so confuss as in CISCO AS5300 that i going to use, there was not switch type known as "PBX". Can anybody enlighten me on this. Is there a "PBX" Switch for ISDN? If yes how do i configure my AS5300 for the ISDN PRI LINE. Thank, with regards Chan _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN B-Channel admined down
Hello colleagues, do you know how I can admin up an ISDN B-Channel ? This is what the config on my router lools like: BRI0/0 10.66.1.11 YES NVRAM standby mode down BRI0/0:1 unassigned YES unset administratively down down BRI0/0:2 unassigned YES unset administratively down down When I try to access the BRI0/0:1 or BRI0/0:2, the system tells me that I cannot access the B-channel. Thanks for your help in advance. Regards, Hans _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN LCP negotiation problem
I have seen behavior like this that was caused by having the wrong switch type configured. However, we had the wrong one configured because we actually trusted Qwest!They told us we had a 5ESS switch which was partially true. In reality it was a 5ESS switch running National ISDN software. In that situation you need to configure a basic-ni1 switch type. I don't know what the specific problem might be in your case, but it might be something along those lines. If you don't know *for certain* it might be worthwhile to check with your provider and verify the switch type. BTW, could we see the debug output as well as the output from "show isdn status"? Good luck, John >>> "Row Adel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/9/01 4:22:04 PM >>> Hello, I am configuring Cisco 801 ISDN routers to link two offices together via dial-on-demand. The connection fails to even get to the CHAP authentication stage (tried PAP also). On debugging the connection attempts (debug PPP negotiation), it is clear that the failure is occuring at the LCP stage. Neither router is sending LCP configuration details. Whichever side initiates the connection, there is no incoming request received in response to the outgoing conFREQ's and so the connection times-out after 24 seconds. IOS version is 12 and ISDN connectivity is proven (basic net 3). Can anyone help with where to look for the problem? Thanks in advance. Row. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN loadsharing [7:1280]
You will have to use the 'variance' command to support load-balancing in case of EIGRP Muhammad Khalilullah CCNP, MCSE --- Paul L Holloway wrote: > I have a customer wanting his ISDN line(BRI)to take > up the slack when the > utilization on his T1 gets to high. He has a 3640 > router. I know the load > balancing considerations for routing protocols and > am suggesting he run > EIGRP as his IGP since OSPF won't load balance > across two "unequal" paths. > The config. on his serial I believe would be: > > int S1/0 > ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x > no ip redirects > no ip directed-broadcast > no ip proxy-arp > encapsulation ppp > no ip route-cache distributed > no fair-queue > no cdp enable > backup delay 30 60 > backup int BRI1/0 > backup load 70 40 > > Are there any other snags or problems I may run into > with this setup? > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Paul Holloway CCNA, CCDA > Systems Engineer > Arrival Technologies > Tel: 228-314-1100 ex.304 > > -- > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1298&t=1280 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN loadsharing [7:1280]
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Paul L Holloway wrote: > I have a customer wanting his ISDN line(BRI)to take up the slack when the > utilization on his T1 gets to high. He has a 3640 router. I know the load > balancing considerations for routing protocols and am suggesting he run > EIGRP as his IGP since OSPF won't load balance across two "unequal" paths. > The config. on his serial I believe would be: > > int S1/0 > ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x > no ip redirects > no ip directed-broadcast > no ip proxy-arp > encapsulation ppp > no ip route-cache distributed > no fair-queue > no cdp enable > backup delay 30 60 > backup int BRI1/0 > backup load 70 40 > > Are there any other snags or problems I may run into with this setup? > Thanks in advance. Hmm, you configured it as a serial interface, wo I assume that the whole bandwidth of your T1 goes to a single destination (eg, ISP router port). You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN to kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with 1 ISDN channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth. So the main snag, I would think, is that your ISDN won't help that much. OTOH, it will come handy when your T1 gets acquainted with a backhoe, which also appears to be one of your design goals, since you put in a backup delay. Depending on how you rank these design goals, you'll get a satisfied customer or an irate one. -- "Someone approached me and asked me to teach a javascript course. I was about to decline, saying that my complete ignorance of the subject made me unsuitable, then I thought again, that maybe it doesn't, as driving people away from it is a desirable outcome." --Me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1327&t=1280 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN loadsharing [7:1280]
To All:
[ElephantChild wrote:]
[You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN to
kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with 1 ISDN
channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth.]
I am not sure I understand what you are saying?
Isn't the "BACKUP LOAD {enable-threshold | NEVER} {disable-threshold |
NEVER}" command specifying when the backup interface will be kicked in, and
dropped? It has been a while but looking through the docs again it seems
that the BRI will kick in at 70% util (input or output 5 minute moving
average). It will remain up until the COMBINED utilization of the two
(input or output 5 minute moving average) drops bellow 30% of the S1/0
bandwidth.
I donn't see how the backup delay really has anything to do with the
"loadsharing" issue?
As I write this I find that I have some questions?
### It has been a while, and the Docs are a little vague###
1. Can either the input or output utilization start the backup?
2. Once the backup is enabled do BOTH the input and output utilizations have
to be bellow the disable-threshold to drop the backup.
Kurgan
"ElephantChild" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Paul L Holloway wrote:
>
> > I have a customer wanting his ISDN line(BRI)to take up the slack when the
> > utilization on his T1 gets to high. He has a 3640 router. I know the load
> > balancing considerations for routing protocols and am suggesting he run
> > EIGRP as his IGP since OSPF won't load balance across two "unequal"
paths.
> > The config. on his serial I believe would be:
> >
> > int S1/0
> > ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
> > no ip redirects
> > no ip directed-broadcast
> > no ip proxy-arp
> > encapsulation ppp
> > no ip route-cache distributed
> > no fair-queue
> > no cdp enable
> > backup delay 30 60
> > backup int BRI1/0
> > backup load 70 40
> >
> > Are there any other snags or problems I may run into with this setup?
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> Hmm, you configured it as a serial interface, wo I assume that the whole
> bandwidth of your T1 goes to a single destination (eg, ISP router port).
> You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN
> to kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with
> 1 ISDN channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth.
>
> So the main snag, I would think, is that your ISDN won't help that much.
> OTOH, it will come handy when your T1 gets acquainted with a backhoe,
> which also appears to be one of your design goals, since you put in a
> backup delay. Depending on how you rank these design goals, you'll get a
> satisfied customer or an irate one.
>
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> about to decline, saying that my complete ignorance of the subject made
> me unsuitable, then I thought again, that maybe it doesn't, as driving
> people away from it is a desirable outcome." --Me
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Re: ISDN loadsharing [7:1280]
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [ElephantChild wrote:]
>
> [You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN to
> kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with 1 ISDN
> channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth.]
>
> I am not sure I understand what you are saying?
>
> Isn't the "BACKUP LOAD {enable-threshold | NEVER} {disable-threshold |
> NEVER}" command specifying when the backup interface will be kicked in, and
> dropped? It has been a while but looking through the docs again it seems
> that the BRI will kick in at 70% util (input or output 5 minute moving
> average). It will remain up until the COMBINED utilization of the two
> (input or output 5 minute moving average) drops bellow 30% of the S1/0
> bandwidth.
It is. The BRI kicks in at 70% of the T1's bandwidth, so the fraction of
the T1's bandwidth that gets spread out is the remaining 30%, or perhaps
the difference between 70% and the peak usage, come to think of it. If
the original poster didn't baseline that already, now would be a good
time to.
> I donn't see how the backup delay really has anything to do with the
> "loadsharing" issue?
It doesn't, but I never said it did. :-) The 30% I mentioned comes from
100% (full T1 bandwidth) - the 70 of the backup load command, not the 30
of the backup delay.
> As I write this I find that I have some questions?
> ### It has been a while, and the Docs are a little vague###
> 1. Can either the input or output utilization start the backup?
> 2. Once the backup is enabled do BOTH the input and output utilizations
have
> to be bellow the disable-threshold to drop the backup.
I don't have routers handy to experiment on, but my guesses would be:
1. No. Backup requires that the ISDN or analog line be setup to call the
same router as the point-to-point line it's supposed to back up,
IIRC. Hence, the output load on one router should be the same as the
input load on the other.
2. Dunno either. It would make sense for it to, since otherwise the
other router would restart the backup at once. OTOH, it assumes that
both have the same backup load thresholds.
Perhaps someone would care to set up a lab and report? Chuck?
Circusnuts? Cthulu? Anyone? :-)
> "ElephantChild" wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Paul L Holloway wrote:
> >
> > > I have a customer wanting his ISDN line(BRI)to take up the slack when
the
> > > utilization on his T1 gets to high. He has a 3640 router. I know the
load
> > > balancing considerations for routing protocols and am suggesting he run
> > > EIGRP as his IGP since OSPF won't load balance across two "unequal"
> paths.
> > > The config. on his serial I believe would be:
> > >
> > > int S1/0
> > > ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x
> > > no ip redirects
> > > no ip directed-broadcast
> > > no ip proxy-arp
> > > encapsulation ppp
> > > no ip route-cache distributed
> > > no fair-queue
> > > no cdp enable
> > > backup delay 30 60
> > > backup int BRI1/0
> > > backup load 70 40
> > >
> > > Are there any other snags or problems I may run into with this setup?
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Hmm, you configured it as a serial interface, wo I assume that the whole
> > bandwidth of your T1 goes to a single destination (eg, ISP router port).
> > You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN
> > to kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with
> > 1 ISDN channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth.
> >
> > So the main snag, I would think, is that your ISDN won't help that much.
> > OTOH, it will come handy when your T1 gets acquainted with a backhoe,
> > which also appears to be one of your design goals, since you put in a
> > backup delay. Depending on how you rank these design goals, you'll get a
> > satisfied customer or an irate one.
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Re: ISDN loadsharing [7:1280]
Comments inline.
JMcL
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11:16 am ---
"ElephantChild" @groupstudy.com on 21/04/2001 04:13:51 pm
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [ElephantChild wrote:]
>
> [You want to load-balance 30% (100% - 70% load threshold needed for ISDN
to
> kick in) of your T1's bandwidth, which is about 450 Kbits/sec., with 1
ISDN
> channel, which will give you 1/7 at best of that bandwidth.]
>
> I am not sure I understand what you are saying?
>
> Isn't the "BACKUP LOAD {enable-threshold | NEVER} {disable-threshold |
> NEVER}" command specifying when the backup interface will be kicked in,
and
> dropped? It has been a while but looking through the docs again it seems
> that the BRI will kick in at 70% util (input or output 5 minute moving
> average). It will remain up until the COMBINED utilization of the two
> (input or output 5 minute moving average) drops bellow 30% of the S1/0
> bandwidth.
It is. The BRI kicks in at 70% of the T1's bandwidth, so the fraction of
the T1's bandwidth that gets spread out is the remaining 30%, or perhaps
the difference between 70% and the peak usage, come to think of it. If
the original poster didn't baseline that already, now would be a good
time to.
JMcL: How much traffic will go to the T1 and how much will go to the ISDN
is a function of the routing process and protocol, not just the bandwidths.
For example, if OSPF was used, once the backup link kicked in the traffic
will be equally shared between the T1 and ISDN (per packet or per cache
entry, depending on what sort of switching), and your total throughput will
plummet. However the original poster is planning on using EIGRP, which can
do unequal load balancing. I have little enough knowledge of EIGRP that I
won't offer an opinion on whether this will work or not, but just on pure
bandwidth and assuming EIGRP can handle it perfectly, I don't think it will
help much - proportionally, you're not adding much bandwidth. Depends
partly on your traffic patterns. /JMcL
> I donn't see how the backup delay really has anything to do with the
> "loadsharing" issue?
It doesn't, but I never said it did. :-) The 30% I mentioned comes from
100% (full T1 bandwidth) - the 70 of the backup load command, not the 30
of the backup delay.
> As I write this I find that I have some questions?
> ### It has been a while, and the Docs are a little vague###
> 1. Can either the input or output utilization start the backup?
> 2. Once the backup is enabled do BOTH the input and output utilizations
have
> to be bellow the disable-threshold to drop the backup.
I don't have routers handy to experiment on, but my guesses would be:
1. No. Backup requires that the ISDN or analog line be setup to call the
same router as the point-to-point line it's supposed to back up,
IIRC. Hence, the output load on one router should be the same as the
input load on the other.
JMcL: Yes. From the command reference for the "backup load" command (my
emphasis): "When the *transmitted or received* load on the primary line is
greater than the value assigned to the enable-threshold argument, the
secondary line is enabled. /JMcL
2. Dunno either. It would make sense for it to, since otherwise the
other router would restart the backup at once. OTOH, it assumes that
both have the same backup load thresholds.
JMcL: I think no. Only one router is configured to activate and deactivate
the backup. Again from the command reference, "The secondary line is
disabled when one of the following conditions occurs:
The transmitted load on the primary line plus the transmitted load on the
secondary line is less than the value entered for the disable-load
argument.
The received load on the primary line plus the received load on the
secondary line is less than the value entered for the disable-load
argument."
Personally I think this is a bit dubious, for the reason you mention - if
transmitted and received traffic is very unbalanced, the router could
satisfy the condition to enable the backup link, and simultaneously satisfy
the condition to disable the backup link. I suspect that it has to satisfy
BOTH conditions above to disable the link, not just one. /JMcL
Perhaps someone would care to set up a lab and report? Chuck?
Circusnuts? Cthulu? Anyone? :-)
> "ElephantChild" wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Paul L Holloway wrote:
> >
> > > I have a customer wanting his ISDN line(BRI)to take up the slack when
the
> > > utilization on his T1 gets to high. He has a 3640 router. I know the
load
&g
ISDN/BRI problems [7:1939]
Group, My problem is with an isdn connection to a 1603 router. I have tried,tested and use this line on another router and I have no problem. But as soon as I connect the ISDN to the 1603, I don't get any synchronisation between the D channel and the ISDN switch (isdn switch-type is configured) sh controller BRI, sh isdn stat etc indicate inactive status on level 1. When I try debugging all isdn events, I get nothing. What baffles me is that the sh int bri0 shows line up protocol up (spoofing) which is an indication of activity on the D channel while waiting for a call to be made. I really can't understand this. I am trying to avoid concluding that my router BRI is dead. Has anyone got any local tests to convince me that the problem might be the physical BRI? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1939&t=1939 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN demonstrator [7:3842]
The difference in price between the Demonstrator and ILS2000 makes a Demonstrator with two NT-1s less costly. Consider the Emutel simulators from Arca Technologies. > -Original Message- > From: Omer Ehsan Dar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ISDN demonstrator [7:3842] > > > Hi all, > Someone asked me what ISDN demonstartor would be needed to > connect to a > 2503 router. Teltone markets two the ISDn demonstrattor or > the ILS2000. > The ISDN demonstrator would require an NT1 while the ILS2000 > would not. > any comments are welcome. > Omer > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3847&t=3842 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN demonstrator [7:3842]
I was able to pick 2 NT1s on e-bay for less than 50 bucks a piece and I got the demonstrator for 1685.00. Its significantly less than the 2685 price I was quoted for the ILS-2000. The demostrator works fine and the documentation is easy to read and get it up and running. Raul - Original Message - From: "Daniel Cotts" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: RE: ISDN demonstrator [7:3842] > The difference in price between the Demonstrator and ILS2000 makes a > Demonstrator with two NT-1s less costly. > Consider the Emutel simulators from Arca Technologies. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Omer Ehsan Dar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:34 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: ISDN demonstrator [7:3842] > > > > > > Hi all, > > Someone asked me what ISDN demonstartor would be needed to > > connect to a > > 2503 router. Teltone markets two the ISDn demonstrattor or > > the ILS2000. > > The ISDN demonstrator would require an NT1 while the ILS2000 > > would not. > > any comments are welcome. > > Omer > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3852&t=3842 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN call problem [7:4258]
Attempting to get isdn working i get this error anyone experienced this error before? ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 8358662 at 64 Kb/s ISDN BR0: Event: incoming ces value = 1 ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK ISDN BR0: Got a disconnect on a non-existent call (call id = 0x8010). This probably is a call that we placed that never got answered.. r1 interface BRI0 ip address 192.168.50.1 255.255.255.0 encapsulation ppp dialer map ip 192.168.50.2 name r2 broadcast 8358661 dialer-group 1 no fair-queue ppp authentication chap r2 interface BRI0 ip address 192.168.50.2 255.255.255.0 encapsulation ppp isdn spid1 0835866101 isdn spid2 0835866301 dialer map ip 192.168.50.1 name r1 broadcast 8358662 dialer-group 1 no fair-queue ppp authentication chap Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4258&t=4258 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Backup [7:4462]
Great idea! Now, if only you didn't have to pay for an ISDN usage charges since you're calling yourself ;-) -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""Ambern, Jeff"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just wanted to let the group know of a little trick I came across this > weekend. > I have an ISDN line that I hooked up to a NT1 with two S/T interfaces. I > was able > to connect 2 2504's back to back through the telco cloud. Each router > pulled > one TEI each. This makes it possible to perform dial-backup and other isdn > simulations without paying for 2 isdn lines (just can't do multilink) or > buying an > expensive ISDN sumulator. Just thought I would share because I have never > come across this configuration before. > > Jeff Ambern > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4463&t=4462 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Backup [7:4462]
Hi Depends who your provider is. For example in QWest land all local ISDN calls are not charged a usage fee. HTH -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE ""Jason Roysdon"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Great idea! Now, if only you didn't have to pay for an ISDN usage charges > since you're calling yourself ;-) > > -- > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > > > > ""Ambern, Jeff"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Just wanted to let the group know of a little trick I came across this > > weekend. > > I have an ISDN line that I hooked up to a NT1 with two S/T interfaces. I > > was able > > to connect 2 2504's back to back through the telco cloud. Each router > > pulled > > one TEI each. This makes it possible to perform dial-backup and other > isdn > > simulations without paying for 2 isdn lines (just can't do multilink) or > > buying an > > expensive ISDN sumulator. Just thought I would share because I have never > > come across this configuration before. > > > > Jeff Ambern > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4476&t=4462 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Backup [7:4462]
Very cool. I know within our company custom Centrex group that's the case as well, but not all local calls, just calls between our Centrex lines. -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ ""John Hardman"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi > > Depends who your provider is. For example in QWest land all local ISDN calls > are not charged a usage fee. > > HTH > -- > John Hardman CCNP MCSE > > > ""Jason Roysdon"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Great idea! Now, if only you didn't have to pay for an ISDN usage charges > > since you're calling yourself ;-) > > > > -- > > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ > > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ > > > > > > > > ""Ambern, Jeff"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Just wanted to let the group know of a little trick I came across this > > > weekend. > > > I have an ISDN line that I hooked up to a NT1 with two S/T interfaces. > I > > > was able > > > to connect 2 2504's back to back through the telco cloud. Each router > > > pulled > > > one TEI each. This makes it possible to perform dial-backup and other > > isdn > > > simulations without paying for 2 isdn lines (just can't do multilink) or > > > buying an > > > expensive ISDN sumulator. Just thought I would share because I have > never > > > come across this configuration before. > > > > > > Jeff Ambern > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4478&t=4462 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Backup [7:4462]
Yes, its worthwhile. Alot of people find that paying for an NT1 and an ISDN line is cheaper than the simulator. But with the simulator you can do dial-backup, BOD, multilink, etc. Brian On Mon, 14 May 2001, Ambern, Jeff wrote: > Just wanted to let the group know of a little trick I came across this > weekend. > I have an ISDN line that I hooked up to a NT1 with two S/T interfaces. I > was able > to connect 2 2504's back to back through the telco cloud. Each router > pulled > one TEI each. This makes it possible to perform dial-backup and other isdn > simulations without paying for 2 isdn lines (just can't do multilink) or > buying an > expensive ISDN sumulator. Just thought I would share because I have never > come across this configuration before. > > Jeff Ambern > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- I'm buying / selling used CISCO gear!! email me for a quote Brian Feeny,CCDP,CCNP+VAS Scarlett Parria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 318-213-4709 318-213-4701 Netjam, LLC http://www.netjam.net 333 Texas St. VISA/MC/AMEX/COD Suite 140130 day warranty Shreveport, LA 71101 Cisco Channel Partner p: 318-212-0245 f: 318-212-0246 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4486&t=4462 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New ISDN tutorial [7:5340]
On basic ISDN and troubleshooting. 24 pages PDF Watch the wrap http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/784/packet/apr01/pdfs/access_isdn_troublesh ooting.pdf Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5340&t=5340 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subject: ISDN [7:5295]
A couple of thoughts on this issue(some generic, some specific to your problem): 1. What results do you get with "show isdn status"? 2. While running "debug dialer" during this ping, is a cause code reflected for dial? Specifically, is it attempting to dial out at all? Do you have the following statement present on this router: dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit or something closely similar? 3. I noted the absence of the following line under the interface config: ppp authentication chap That might likely cause the PROTREJ message you saw(although it could be for other protocols requested). You probably need to copy a sample of the debug to get a better answer. 4. What does the other router config look like? 5. Was this previously working, or is the first time this circuit came up? -Need more input...and configs/debugs HTH, Paul Werner > Please help, I can't ping the remote side of this ISDN connection. > > Here is the config AND the log with debug ppp negotiation showing a > PROTREJ(toward the end of output). Does that mean PPP is not working or > setup right? > > When I ping the remote, the call is made to the customer but I don't get > a > reply. Also, if I show ip route after I ping(while the line is still > up) I > see a route like this 192.168.2.58/32 what does the /32 mean- I know it's > subnet bits but how is it 32? Before the dialer makes the call if I > show ip > route I see it as 192.168.2.56/29(I'm 192.168.2.57 and customer is > 192.168.2.58) The rest of the output show what happens when I ping the > other > side with debug ppp negotiation on. Thanks for any help. > > isdn switch-type basic-ni1 > ! > interface BRI0/0 > ip address 192.168.2.57 255.255.255.248 > encapsulation ppp > isdn spid1 9258255950 > isdn spid2 9258255957 > dialer idle-timeout 57 > dialer map ip 192.168.2.58 name customer 1904296 > dialer-group 1 > ppp chap hostname service > ppp chap password xxx > > ping 192.168.2.58 > Type escape sequence to abort. > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.58, timeout is 2 seconds: Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5385&t=5295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: ISDN simulation [7:7489]
to really play around with ISDN, you need a BRI or a PRI (if you are at home, not that cheap). You need an ISDN Network to use your ISDN interfaces, to build one by your own will be difficult. -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Thomas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2001 07:42 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: ISDN simulation [7:7489] Hi All, I have two routers with ISDN interfaces. I wonder if it is possible to setup the simulation for ISDN with this 2 routers? What else do I need? I know it is not going to be the same as the serial interfaces (which I can use crossover cable), since ISDN involve the phone numbers Thanks in advance! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7493&t=7489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN simulation [7:7489]
you will need an isdn cloud simulator, teletron for example. there is no other way to do it (unless you want to buy two isdn lines from a telco). Dragi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7509&t=7489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulation [7:7489]
An ISDN Simulator would to the trick! Teltone, Emutel or something a little cheaper maybe? ""Thomas"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi All, > > I have two routers with ISDN interfaces. I wonder if it is possible to > setup the simulation for ISDN with this 2 routers? What else do I need? I > know it is not going to be the same as the serial interfaces (which I can > use crossover cable), since ISDN involve the phone numbers Thanks in > advance! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7514&t=7489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN errors [7:7834]
NetEng, Debug isdn q921 Debug isdn q931 Get the ISDN cause code numbers for the errors. Refer to http://www.eicon.com/support/helpweb/diva/diag2.ASP?x=a troubleshooter - type in the cause code and it will tell you if the problem is your router, your telcom, remote telcom, remote router. Great site for ISDN Back up to http://www.eicon.com/support/helpweb for more options. Cheers, Susan McClendon > -Original Message- > From: NetEng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ISDN errors [7:7834] > > > Im trying to connect a 800 series ISDN router to a 700 > series. I followed > the config from CTAC, but I get this error on one side and > from the other I > get no password found. Anyone seen it b4? TIA > > 00:21:23: ISDN BR0: Event: Hangup call to call id 0x800D ces = 1 > 00:21:23: ISDN BR0: process_disconnect(): call id 0x800D, > call type is DATA, > b_idb 0x270BF38, ces 1 > 00:21:98784288768: CC: dsl 0 No CCB Src->HOST cid 0x800D, > ev 0x5 ces 1 > 00:21:98790297316: ISDN BR0: received HOST_QUERY_RESPONSE > call_id 0x800D > 00:21:24: ISDN BR0: Outgoing call id = 0x800E, dsl 0 > 00:21:24: ISDN BR0: Event: Call to 6086629XXX at 64 Kb/s > 00:21:24: ISDN BR0: process_bri_call(): call id 0x800E, called_number > 6086629XXX, speed 64, call type DATA > 00:21:103079256064: CC_CHAN_GetIdleChanbri: dsl 0 > 00:21:103079256064: Found idle channel B1 > 00:21:107374223360: ISDN BR0: received HOST_DISCONNECT_ACK > call_id 0x800E > 00:21:107374182400: ISDN BR0: Error: Unfound B-channel on > Disconnect_Ack - > callid 0x800E > 00:21:107374223360: ISDN BR0: HOST_DISC_ACK Voice cid 0x800E error. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7970&t=7834 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Simulator [7:8132]
I recommend the Teltone demonstrator for the a lab setup. Thats the one I use. I got it for 1685.00 Raul - Original Message - From: "Tariq Azad" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: ISDN Simulator [7:8132] > Hello Group ! > > Which ISDN simulator is an affordable and cheap for preparation of CCIE Lab. > > Thanks > > TARIQ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8141&t=8132 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN subaddresses [7:8109]
I am not sure, but I think this :4356 portion of the number is only there if your router is behind a PABX, which then assigns the subaddresses to different ports.A telco doesn't even see that number. Dragi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8142&t=8109 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Simulator [7:8132]
I dont think there is any such thing as an "affordable" ISDN simulator but i got the Emutel Solo and it works like a champ. It has configurable S/T or U interfaces and supports all kinds of switch types. It is comparable to the Teltone ILS 2000 ($2800) and the price direct from Arca technologies is $1995. The only problem is that buying it direct is a HUGE pain in the butt. I eventually bought mine from the supplier that is associated with ccbootcamp.com. It was more then the direct price but saved a lot of time an hassle. They sell for pretty big bucks on Ebay so i figure if after i am done with it i can sell it for 70% of what i payed it isn't so painful. HTH Ed ""Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I recommend the Teltone demonstrator for the a lab setup. Thats the one I > use. I got it for 1685.00 > > Raul > - Original Message - > From: "Tariq Azad" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:17 AM > Subject: ISDN Simulator [7:8132] > > > > Hello Group ! > > > > Which ISDN simulator is an affordable and cheap for preparation of CCIE > Lab. > > > > Thanks > > > > TARIQ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8163&t=8132 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Simulator [7:8132]
Tariq, I have ISDN simulators for sale at #1000.00+Ship+VAT. 2B+D, perfect for your routers to connect to S/T RJ45 Presentation. If you are in the UK, you can come over and try them before you buy. Rashid Lohiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 8509 2990 07785 362626 www.pioneer-computers.com ""Tariq Azad"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello Group ! > > Which ISDN simulator is an affordable and cheap for preparation of CCIE Lab. > > Thanks > > TARIQ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8171&t=8132 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN call Command [7:8351]
I need to test if the bri interface used for DDR works without taking the serial interface down. (Don't ask me why, the reasons are political). So basically, I just want to see if it works. I've done the "sh isdn status" to check level 1 & 2 but is it possible to bring up an interface in this situation? How does the: isdn call int bri0/0 command work? I tried this with no luck. Thanks, Scott Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=8351&t=8351 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN TA [7:9741]
you have to use DDR witha suitable dynamic /static route. U can find in TAC else make a scenario and send I'll help you out ""Sujal G. Ajmera"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi, > > I need to install a Zyxel ISDN TA to the serial port of the 2501 router. > > How can I configure it do dial automatically when it senses 'interesting > traffic'? > > Any thoughts on this? > > TIA, > > Sujal Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=9768&t=9741 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Ronald, If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc ""Ronald James"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda, > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33867&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Hi, there is also a lot of simulator stuff at: http://www.teltone.com/telecom_solutions/test_tools/test_home.html Regards, Georg Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33877&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he already made a shameless plug. ISDN emulator on the NET http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf www.diem.com/BT90001.htm http://www.tele-products.com/ http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 http://www.acacia-net.com/ http://www.taskit.com/ http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html http://www.digitechinc.com http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ronald, > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda, > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33945&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do the job just fine. I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer standing up for my "preferred" vendor! Rik -Original Message- From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he already made a shameless plug. ISDN emulator on the NET http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf www.diem.com/BT90001.htm http://www.tele-products.com/ http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 http://www.acacia-net.com/ http://www.taskit.com/ http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html http://www.digitechinc.com http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ronald, > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda, > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34000&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you would think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I can tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they are ripping you off. Cheers and best wishes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rik Guyler Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do the job just fine. I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer standing up for my "preferred" vendor! Rik -Original Message- From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he already made a shameless plug. ISDN emulator on the NET http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf www.diem.com/BT90001.htm http://www.tele-products.com/ http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 http://www.acacia-net.com/ http://www.taskit.com/ http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html http://www.digitechinc.com http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Ronald, > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab in > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating nda, > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or isdn > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34025&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Duncan, Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has just been one of many happy customers of ours. While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless plugs. It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you would > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I can > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > are ripping you off. > > Cheers and best wishes > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Rik Guyler > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do > the job just fine. > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > Rik > > -Original Message- > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his > recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is > not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he > already made a shameless plug. > > ISDN emulator on the NET > http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf > www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf > www.diem.com/BT90001.htm > http://www.tele-products.com/ > http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html > http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 > http://www.acacia-net.com/ > http://www.taskit.com/ > http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html > http://www.digitechinc.com > http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Ronald, > > > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home > lab. > > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 > > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > > > thanks, > > -Brad Ellis > > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > > Network Learning Inc > > > > ""Ronald James"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > just wondering anybody knows which isdn simulator is best for home lab > in > > > terms of functionalities and pricing? hope this is not violating > nda, > > > but very interest to see whether real ccie lab use isdn simulator or > isdn > > > lines?? if it's a simulator, which brand? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34081&t=33841 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Thats a good one Brad. You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell you your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your supposed to be a "reputable" CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers saying "hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all the while they are the ones selling the material. Just because you hid your lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change what you've done. Let's look at your post... BEllis Quote: If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com BEllis Unquote: Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is. You refer to how satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours who bought one and liked it and told you about it. You make no disclaimer that you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your pocket with cash when the purchase is made. You make no mention that Cheap ISDN (remember, you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning. Now how this is not deceptive to you? Have you ever heard of full disclosure? Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just "heard" about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the sale is not being deceptive? How about let's disclose in your future "unbiased recommendations" that you'll directly profit from the said recommendation? That would be the honest, upright thing to do! It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you recommend! Hah!!! ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Duncan, > > Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has > just been one of many happy customers of ours. > > While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, > post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any > under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or > services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless > plugs. > > It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that > you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but > we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. > > This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please > email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses > to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you > would > > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I > can > > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > > are ripping you off. > > > > Cheers and best wishes > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Rik Guyler > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned > over > > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't > do > > the job just fine. > > > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > > > Rik > > > > -Original Message- > > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subje
RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Hi Brad I'm responding publicly because that's what you do all the time. I can't believe how two faced someone can be. They say everything will come out in the wash and I hope it does. I had good response from the previous email because people are beginning to doubt. I don't want to be funny but the term "used car salesman comes to mind". Please note that I am not a competitor of Network Learning, Optsys or CCbootcamp. I know Brad that your business interests are hidden in Group studies like this one and that image is very important, well let me remind you that storm is approaching. I'm not aware of other competitors using fake email accounts because there are none and I have only witnessed under-handed tactics coming from one well known source on this list. By the way what does "publically" mean. If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Ellis Sent: 01 February 2002 18:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] Duncan, Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has just been one of many happy customers of ours. While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless plugs. It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you would > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I can > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > are ripping you off. > > Cheers and best wishes > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Rik Guyler > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned over > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't do > the job just fine. > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > Rik > > -Original Message- > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > Of course Brad forgot to mention he has a financial interest in his > recommendation as he is affiliated with the company so his recommendation is > not without bias. Here's some of your options. I'll leave out his as he > already made a shameless plug. > > ISDN emulator on the NET > http://208.1.40.80/ica/isdnsim.nsf > www.brooktrout.com/pages/product_info/pi_data_wan/pdf/multiport.pdf > www.diem.com/BT90001.htm > http://www.tele-products.com/ > http://www.arca-technologies.com/solohome.html > http://www.conway-engineering.com/ 5105307682 > http://www.acacia-net.com/ > http://www.taskit.com/ > http://www.monitor.co.at/monitor/498/story/isdnsim.html > http://www.digitechinc.com > http://www.ertmsales.com/products/search/viewcart.cfm?Page=1&QtyNA= > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Ronald, > > > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home > lab. > > I believe he posted about it somewhere
Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
Thats a good one Brad. You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell you your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your supposed to be a "reputable" CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers saying "hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all the while they are the ones selling the material. Just because you hid your lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change what you've done. Let's look at your post... BEllis Quote: If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, etc. Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home lab. I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the simline2 you can visit www.cheapisdn.com BEllis Unquote: Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is. You refer to how satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours who bought one and liked it and told you about it. You make no disclaimer that you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your pocket with cash when the purchase is made. You make no mention that Cheap ISDN (remember, you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning. Now how this is not deceptive to you? Have you ever heard of full disclosure? Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just "heard" about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the sale is not being deceptive? How about let's disclose in your future "unbiased recommendations" that you'll directly profit from the said recommendation? That would be the honest, upright thing to do! It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you recommend! Hah!!! ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Duncan, > > Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. Rik has > just been one of many happy customers of ours. > > While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email accounts, > post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any > under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or > services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless > plugs. > > It's interesting that you work with Capewave, a competitor of ours, and that > you are badmouthing us. Im not sure that PDS would approve of your post but > we'll copy Paul F. (at PDS) on it and see what he says. > > This thread has really gone off on a tangent, if you wish to respond, please > email me offlist, as I will not respond publically to any future responses > to this post/email. Or feel free to call me, 248-299-7789. > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ""Duncan Stuart"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > How much are you getting paid to be brad's personal PR man. Why don't you > > reply to individuals instead of replying to the whole group. > > > > By the way your preferred vendor is not quite as squeaky clean as you > would > > think and like the rest of us to think. These guys actually employed some > > extremely unprofessional business ethics to bring you this simulator. I > can > > tell you exactly how much they buy the product for and just how badly they > > are ripping you off. > > > > Cheers and best wishes > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Rik Guyler > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:11 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > > > > Shameless plug? Absolutely! No shame in how Brad does business. :-} > > > > Maybe he does have a financial interest but who cares? I have learned > over > > the years to listen to him...he is usually right. His simulator is as > > inexpensive as you will find and I know he wouldn't offer it if it didn't > do > > the job just fine. > > > > I have no financial interest here. I'm just a very satisfied customer > > standing up for my "preferred" vendor! > > > > Rik > > > > -Original Message- > > From: c1sc0k1d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:41 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subje
RE: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
If the router is not seeing interesting traffic within your idle period then it should drop the line. What is in your dialer-list to define what is interesting traffic? -Original Message- From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN problems... [7:34324] I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it for me... thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34335&t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
The dialer list command seems to be gone...I am going to add dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit This should work(at least to let everything threw). Or is there another way to do this which is more secure? I am also trying the debug command--they will not help this problem but have shown me another problem with the serial interfaces so thanks for that suggestion. Actually any suggestion on dialer-lists would alsom be welcome--ie what would it be a good idea and what kind of timeout is normal--I am using 50 seconds right now. stu -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:53 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: ISDN problems... [7:34324] If the router is not seeing interesting traffic within your idle period then it should drop the line. What is in your dialer-list to define what is interesting traffic? -Original Message- From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN problems... [7:34324] I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it for me... thanks stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34341&t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: ISDN simulator [7:33841]
resent message Rob > -Original Message- > From: Thompson, Robert D > Sent: 04 February 2002 08:14 > To: 'c1sc0k1d' > Subject: RE: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > HI > > I own an PDS Simline 2. Its a great ISDN simulator. It works perfectly and > goes hand in hand with your lab studies. The one I own does not support > SPID's as stated on the information of the unit. It supports Basic net 3. > Its European standards compliant. When connecting the unit to your > routers, > it only takes two RJ45 cables ~(one for each router's isdn port, which > connect into the bri ports of the sim and router respectively). Setting it > up is easy. It has also got a brilliant trace facility as well as numbers > built into the unit that you can dial to simulate errors/line faults etc. > Of > all the labs I have done on it, it works well. You can monitor the status > of > the link (multiple or single channel)with the LED's on the unit as well as > your router debug commands and show commands and the trace facility that > helps you understand ISDN call setup and call tear down. There are loads > of > features on this unit that you will like. Its also small and can be used > when you fault find as well. This unit is a serious time saver when it > comes > to faults and labs. > > If you want a simulator that works, try it. > > HTH > > Regards > > Rob > > > -Original Message----- > > From: c1sc0k1d [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 03 February 2002 22:21 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: ISDN simulator [7:33841] > > > > Thats a good one Brad. You can try to fool yourself but I hate to tell > > you > > your underhanded tactics are just as low (actually lower as your > supposed > > to > > be a "reputable" CCIE) than the people who post posing as customers > saying > > "hey, go check out this web site, the have great test prep material, all > > the > > while they are the ones selling the material. Just because you hid your > > lack of ethics in the guise of a response to a question doesn't change > > what > > you've done. Let's look at your post... > > > > BEllis Quote: > > If you want the lowest price simulator available, you should go with the > > simline2. It has S/T interfaces so it goes nicely with 2503s, 2504s, > etc. > > Paul B. (the owner of groupstudy) also bought one of these for his home > > lab. > > I believe he posted about it somewhere. Check the archives: > > www.groupstudy.com If you want more detailed information on the > simline2 > > you can visit www.cheapisdn.com > > BEllis Unquote: > > > > Now lets see... you speak as to how great the simline2 is. You refer to > > how > > satisified the owner of groupstudy is as if he's just a friend of yours > > who > > bought one and liked it and told you about it. You make no disclaimer > > that > > you are affiliated with that site and that YOU WILL directly line your > > pocket with cash when the purchase is made. You make no mention that > > Cheap > > ISDN (remember, you get what you pay for) is actually Network Learning. > > Now how this is not deceptive to you? Have you ever heard of full > > disclosure? Or I guess to you speaking as if this is something you just > > "heard" about and hiding the fact that you'll make lots of cash on the > > sale > > is not being deceptive? How about let's disclose in your future > "unbiased > > recommendations" that you'll directly profit from the said > recommendation? > > That would be the honest, upright thing to do! > > > > It's funny how you bash Duncan for not disclosing he works for your > > competitors yet you do not disclose you work for the company you > > recommend! > > Hah!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > ""Brad Ellis"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Duncan, > > > > > > Hi! Actually, we have never offered Rik ANY form of compensation. > Rik > > has > > > just been one of many happy customers of ours. > > > > > > While other competitors of ours use yahoo accounts, fake email > accounts, > > > post spam, etc, we always post using our real names and dont use any > > > under-handed tactics. When there are questions about our products or > > > services, we answer them. I call that customer service, not shameless > > > pl
Re: ISDN problems... [7:34324]
Stuart 180 seconds is normal, it depends if you have a minimum call charge from your telco. To see what causing the interface to dial use the debug dialer command: debug dialer [events | packets] - Displays DDR debugging information about the packets received on a dialer interface. Some more info' here http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/793/access_dial/ddr_9347.html Regards Pat ""Laubstein, Stuart"" <> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The dialer list command seems to be gone...I am going to add > > > dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit > > This should work(at least to let everything threw). Or is there another way > to do this which is more secure? I am also trying the debug command--they > will not help this problem but have shown me another problem with the serial > interfaces so thanks for that suggestion. Actually any suggestion on > dialer-lists would alsom be welcome--ie what would it be a good idea and > what kind of timeout is normal--I am using 50 seconds right now. > > stu > > > -Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- > Von: McCallum, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet am: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:53 PM > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: RE: ISDN problems... [7:34324] > > If the router is not seeing interesting traffic within your idle period then > it should drop the line. What is in your dialer-list to define what is > interesting traffic? > > -Original Message- > From: Stuart Laubstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ISDN problems... [7:34324] > > > I have a 3620 that has a problem with timing out. I have set the dialer > idle-timoue to 180 seconds--the router will keep the interface open for 180 > seconds and then drop it for 9 seconds. I set it to 55 seconds and it did > the same timeout after 55 seconds--9 second drop. This only seems to happen > when the remote router is a cisco router. I have tried debug isdn > events--but can only see the interface coming back up. Any idea on things I > can try would be much appreciated or on debug options that would narrow it > for me... > > thanks > > > > stuart Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=3&t=34324 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN Backup Question [7:34979]
Anyone out there done ISDN backup for a WAN running STUN over Frame Relay? I can't find a solution on the CCO. Any help would be most appreciated. This is apparently not a "trivial configuration." Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34979&t=34979 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN T [7:35441]
The interface type S/T refers to a combination of a the S interface (between the TE and the NT2) and the T interface (between the NT2 and NT1). This implies that the S/T interface will not function with an NT2 device in place. Don't know this for certain, bacause I'm never tried. This is typically OK, because most implementations do not use, nor need an NT2. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35444&t=35441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN T [7:35446]
Just speculating on my own question: Could it be because Cisco routers have a built-in NT2, so they are providing both S and T interfaces? (Even though the S interface do not connect to anything!) Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex GUANEL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Cisco Subject: ISDN T Stupid question that is bugging me Why are Cisco native ISDN interfaces labeled with S/T rather than T? Cisco routers do not provide an interface for other capable ISDN devices You plug the Ethernet cable to the NT1. So shouldn't the interface called a T? Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35446&t=35446 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN T [7:35441]
Thanks Chris, Can I assume from your last statement that ISDN capable Fax machines, printers, telephone... are not very wide spread? I have never seen any of the above devices myself, but since I live in small town in the middle of no where ... Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISDN T [7:35441] The interface type S/T refers to a combination of a the S interface (between the TE and the NT2) and the T interface (between the NT2 and NT1). This implies that the S/T interface will not function with an NT2 device in place. Don't know this for certain, bacause I'm never tried. This is typically OK, because most implementations do not use, nor need an NT2. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35448&t=35441 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..Teltone ISDN Simulator... [7:37636]
Hello CCNP members: I have one brand new Teltone ISDN BRI simulator. It includes the simulator, config disk, documentation, power cable, registeration card, originial box. As many of you know this list for $1700-$1800+. If your interested in this unit, drop me a line with your best offer. Best Regards Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37636&t=37636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN Network simulator [7:38027]
Has anyone ever heard of the K-384 ISDN Network Simulator made by Digital Engineering or have any configuration information about it? Neal Collins, MCSE, MCP+I, CNA, Compaq ASE, CCNA, CCNP Max Systems Group Inc. (416) 641-6616 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38027&t=38027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN config query [7:39121]
I'm currently prepping for the BCRAN and am simulating different ISDN scenarios. I've worked with ISDN a bit in the past, but recently ran into a situation with which I'm not familiar. For tariff reasons, a local ISP chooses to setup their clients' access boxes to answer, rather than dial-in. I'm experimenting with a Cisco 802 with IOS 12.0. It's using IP unnumbered on BRI0 with a legal IP on the ethernet interface 0. My question is this: How do i get it to answer, without dialing? Can I simply shutdown the dialer 1 interface? Once I get it to answer, how do I keep it up permanently ( idle-timeout ?? )?? Any tips and advice would be appreciated, Bob McIntire Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39121&t=39121 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ascend isdn router [7:39227]
Hi all, Does anyone know where I can find a schematic design of an Ascend Pipeline ISDN router? This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each legal entity in the CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON or CREDIT SUISSE ASSET MANAGEMENT business units of CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39227&t=39227 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
Hey Abbas- Check your switch type with the carrier.. my guess is that it's incorrectly set. :::snip:: Cause i = 0x82EF - Protocol error; unspecified. ::snip:: MikeS www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39356&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
Some one correct me If I am wrong but I think you need a dialer-map statement ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey Abbas- > > Check your switch type with the carrier.. my guess is that it's incorrectly > set. > > :::snip:: > Cause i = 0x82EF - Protocol error; unspecified. > ::snip:: > > MikeS > www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39370&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
You should be able to use either one. ""John Smith"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Some one correct me If I am wrong but I think you need a dialer-map > statement > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hey Abbas- > > > > Check your switch type with the carrier.. my guess is that it's > incorrectly > > set. > > > > :::snip:: > > Cause i = 0x82EF - Protocol error; unspecified. > > ::snip:: > > > > MikeS > > www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39383&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
Can you explain what you mean by being able to use either ? Thanks ""Danny Andaluz"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > You should be able to use either one. > ""John Smith"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Some one correct me If I am wrong but I think you need a dialer-map > > statement > > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hey Abbas- > > > > > > Check your switch type with the carrier.. my guess is that it's > > incorrectly > > > set. > > > > > > :::snip:: > > > Cause i = 0x82EF - Protocol error; unspecified. > > > ::snip:: > > > > > > MikeS > > > www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39384&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
Dialer string is for use on dialer interfaces because for whatever reason you cannot use a dialer map (not sure why). If you use physical interfaces like BRI's or Async's, you typically use the dialer map, but since these are also "dialer" interfaces, you can use the dialer string as well. With a dialer string, when you ping the remote end, the router does a lookup of the routing table and sees that to get to the destination IP it has to send the traffic out of the dialer interface. As soon the as the traffic hits the int, the router checks to see if the traffic is interesting and determines whether or not to dial out based on that. With a dialer map you are statically mapping the other end of the connection. Just remember this: Dialer maps or Strings= Legacy DDR (physical interfaces) and Dialer strings= dialer interfaces. Hope this helps. Danny ""cybertek"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Can you explain what you mean by being able to use either ? > Thanks > ""Danny Andaluz"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > You should be able to use either one. > > ""John Smith"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Some one correct me If I am wrong but I think you need a dialer-map > > > statement > > > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Hey Abbas- > > > > > > > > Check your switch type with the carrier.. my guess is that it's > > > incorrectly > > > > set. > > > > > > > > :::snip:: > > > > Cause i = 0x82EF - Protocol error; unspecified. > > > > ::snip:: > > > > > > > > MikeS > > > > www.packetattack.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39398&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN Problem [7:39342]
A couple of things come to mind: a) I would like to see the show int bri0:1 to see if the B channnel came up. b) I do not see a dialer map statement, without it the packet will not know where to go. c) I had a similar problem with encapsulation failed on the packet debugs. The Bri0:1 B channel was up, and the packets were being forwarded to the Bri0 correctly. The problem was the ping packet on the other side had a encapsulation failed. The issue was traced to needing a "PPP authentication pap/CHAP" statement with the appropriate username shared secret password combo. I don't know why it was needed, but I found it on TAC under troubleshooting. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39419&t=39342 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN Cable [7:39461]
> to what the pinouts would be for this cable. (RJ11 -> RJ45) It's the middle two pins. The order doesn't matter with ISDN. I have also just plugged the RJ11 into the RJ45 jack...it worked just fine. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39465&t=39461 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN Switch - Teleos [7:39556]
Does anyone know of a good ISDN simulator ? I have a co-worker who bought a Teleos Switch, but documentation is not easy obtainable and it appears a complex device. Since the Teleos switch is not a sim, but an actual ISDN switch I don't know anyone who has ever used it. If you have any information on the Teleos products or a ISDN sim please respond to this note. I am in the process of putting a CCIE lab together and the ISDN switch/sim appears to be the hardest component to find. Thanks Derrick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39556&t=39556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
