[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread crooner

The SB3 is still unresponsive. It failed to reset to factory settings
after numerous attempts. I will let it "rest" for 24 hours and try back
tomorrow night. By then, hopefully, I should have an answer from tech
support.

The strange thing about all this is how sudden and unexpected the
"death" was. The SB3 had worked flawlessly since January. No glitches,
bugs, crashes, nothing! Many times, after reading about the woes of
other users, I said to myself: I am lucky or perhaps I managed to set
this thing perfectly right the first time around...

But I guess all good things come to an end...It was great while it
lasted. Hopefully, I will get a replacement or something (fingers
crossed!)


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread orfordi

I use my Dell Axim PDA. I use the Java EWE tool that someone has written
to control it rather than the web browser interface. It's much more
responsive.


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[slim] Re: Linksys wifi crashing

2006-05-25 Thread orfordi

I have one of the WAG54G's with the built-in ADSL modem. No firmware
update for that by the look of it :-(


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[slim] Re: Multiple SoftSqueeze instances on a single PC

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

Nathaniel Morgan Wrote: 
> 
> I'm using a M-Audio Delta 1010 soundcard with breakout box. It supports
> 10 
> out channels (5 stereo pairs). Each stereo pair is treated as a
> separate 
> sound device by Windows. You just configure each softsqueeze instance
> with 
> one of the stereo pair virtual devices, and away you go - 5 different 
> players on one PC (actually 6, because I can also use the built-in
> sound 
> card).
> 

Wow, that sounds really interesting (and cool).  

The one question that comes to mind for me immediately is how is the
performance?  The Softsqueeze player sometimes seems to use a lot of
resources, probably because it is written in Java.

This would seem like a perfect time to use Squeezeslave, but I don't
think you can change the virtual MAC address on that.  I also don't
think you can choose the output device it uses.


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RE: [slim] Re: Multiple SoftSqueeze instances on a single PC

2006-05-25 Thread Nathaniel Morgan
Not too bad for resource use - they seem to take about 7% CPU each 
(including any SlimServer overheads - I'm running it on the same box) on my 
Athlon64. Could be media encoding dependant though?


I might try out alternative players with their own web interfaces sometime 
(MediaPlayerClassic, VLC) if I can find the enthusiasm to integrate the web 
interfaces (I'm only interested in web interface control).




From: NWP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com
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Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:27:06 -0700

Nathaniel Morgan Wrote:
>
> I'm using a M-Audio Delta 1010 soundcard with breakout box. It supports
> 10
> out channels (5 stereo pairs). Each stereo pair is treated as a
> separate
> sound device by Windows. You just configure each softsqueeze instance
> with
> one of the stereo pair virtual devices, and away you go - 5 different
> players on one PC (actually 6, because I can also use the built-in
> sound
> card).
>

Wow, that sounds really interesting (and cool).

The one question that comes to mind for me immediately is how is the
performance?  The Softsqueeze player sometimes seems to use a lot of
resources, probably because it is written in Java.

This would seem like a perfect time to use Squeezeslave, but I don't
think you can change the virtual MAC address on that.  I also don't
think you can choose the output device it uses.


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[slim] Slimsever 6.2.2 on intel mac so slow it's unusable.

2006-05-25 Thread KristVB

Hello,

I used to run slimserver on a Linux box, with the music stored on a NAS
device. That Linux box just died on me so I moved to server to my new
Intel iMac. (I used the Mac 6.2.2 dmg file)
And there I found out that it is barely usable.

- The web interface is slow. It takes _several minutes_ before a page
apears. During that time music playback stops.
- The interface on the box is slow too. To the point of being unusable.
It takes between 10-20 seconds for the display to react to key presses
on the remote. Half of the time "lost contact with slimserver" apears
between updates. 

All this time the slimserver process only consumes about 3-4% of CPU
power. So it is obviously not a computer performance problem. 

What can I do about this?


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread ceejay

Well, I have to agree with NWP that this has been an interesting thread,
one of those that takes on a life of its own... it started out with a
debate about the merits of case sensitivity, did a neat hand-brake turn
on the point of whether databases should be case sensitive at all, and
has now lurched off into a familiar debate on the role of the
slimserver database! Especially entertaining is the bit where someone
comments on one topic and has their message interpreted as if it were
on another one!

Having joined in the first bit, I can't resist joining in the later
stages, though, so here is my two penn'orth on the slimserver
database...

I'm pretty sure that for the large majority of users, the current model
is correct, i.e. that the tags are the source of data and that the
slimserver database is purely for the convenience of slimserver.  This
works well because all the ripping programs or download sources provide
more-or-less standard tags.

However, since slim have gone to the trouble of providing a "proper"
database, it would be a real shame if we couldn't use it  in a lot more
interesting ways. This, I understand, is one of the motivations for
moving to MySQL, and I think we see the beginnings of what might be
done with erland's plugins.

The big issue with the slim database, though - as has been mentioned
here as previously - is that it is considered "throwaway", which
effectively stops anyone putting interesting information in it.  And
no, "tags" are not the full answer - I can easily imagine data which is
not solely about a track and which therefore doesn't rightly belong in a
track's tags (e.g. any information about the relationship between two
tracks).

So if we are going to store relational information somewhere, AND we
want to keep the open principles of slimserver (i.e., its easy for
third parties to add functionality and plug in), we need to establish
some principles:

(1) there is some basic player information that slimserver needs to be
able to play tracks. This has to be generated from somewhere (today,
from tags).  The data model for this stuff is slimserver's to own: the
slimserver developers need to be able to make changes to this in future
versions without reference to anyone.

(2) the writers of plugins to slimserver will want the ability to add
extra information in tables of their own (eg Lazysearch). At the moment
they are limited to storing information that can easily be regenerated,
but in the future they really ought to be able to store stuff
persistently somewhere (possibly in a different database).

(3) we need to acknowledge that there are other programs and databases
out there, which people like JSonnabend want to use for a variety of
purposes beyond the knowledge of slim, and which slimserver really
ought to be able to co-exist with.

So, I think there potentially three different kinds of RELATIONAL data
(i.e. in addition to the data that can easily be stored in tags):

(1) the data owned by slimserver for the purposes of playing tracks
(2) additional data used by slimserver plugins for whatever purpose
(3) data managed by applications that slim knows nothing about at all

I suspect the three need to be stored in different databases.  Also
that the right answer for JSonnabend is to provide an easy means of 
transferring the relevant data from the external database into the
slimserver one: as MichaelWagner says, file tags are a simple and
standard way of doing this... one drawback I can think of is that you
lose the ability to transfer any relational data. Another is that it's
not the right answer for dynamic data like "last played".

If you don't want to use tags as a communication route, I think you
have to link the two databases up (though it creates a maintenance
problem for someone).  I don't think the answer is to try to shoehorn
it all into one database, that would cripple both sets of developers.

I'll stop now before my ramblings take on a life of their own, like
this thread.

Ceejay


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

ceejay Wrote: 
> 
> If you don't want to use tags as a communication route, I think you
> have to link the two databases up (though it creates a maintenance
> problem for someone).  I don't think the answer is to try to shoehorn
> it all into one database, that would cripple both sets of developers.
> Ceejay

If the databases are linked, either realtime or with periodic
import/exports, how are they linked?

They only way I can think of that would be possible would be linking on
the field that contains the filepath.  I don't know anything about the
internal workings of the slimserver db, but I assume there is a field
that contains the path to the file.


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[slim] Re: Multiple SoftSqueeze instances on a single PC

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

Nathaniel Morgan Wrote: 
> Not too bad for resource use - they seem to take about 7% CPU each 
> (including any SlimServer overheads - I'm running it on the same box)
> on my 
> Athlon64. Could be media encoding dependant though?
> 
> I might try out alternative players with their own web interfaces
> sometime 
> (MediaPlayerClassic, VLC) if I can find the enthusiasm to integrate the
> web 
> interfaces (I'm only interested in web interface control).
> 

My problem may be that I've been using SoftSqueeze on linux.  Perhaps
it (or java) is just more of a resource hog than it is on Windows.  If
you're only at 7% then it doesn't sound like a problem.

Nathaniel Morgan Wrote: 
> 
> I might try out alternative players with their own web interfaces
> sometime 
> (MediaPlayerClassic, VLC) if I can find the enthusiasm to integrate the
> web 
> interfaces (I'm only interested in web interface control).
> 

I used to use Winamp with the Browseamp plugin before I found
Slimserver, but it wasn't near as good and since finding Slimserver
there's been no thought of going back.  I haven't tried the other web
interfaces you mentioned, but it sounds like you have a kick-ass
solution as is.

I think that develoment of Squeezeslave is currently stalled, but if it
picks up again you may want to check that out since you are only
interested in web control anyway.


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[slim] Re: Wireless networking

2006-05-25 Thread hifisteve

The whole wireless networking thing is such a mixed bag.

I've been having problems with my SB playing OK for a bit (minutes, not
hours) then starting to stutter.  Like you I've got the less then
perfect (though domestically necessary) situation of the SB, router and
server (all Belkin kit) all being independently connected to the same
wireless network.

It's 802.11g so bandwidth shouldn't be a problem but it seems as if the
wireless kit in the SB is the problem.  It's at the other end of the
same room as the router, while the PC is directly above in the upstairs
back bedroom.  The trouble is that while the PC/Router connection is
rock-solid at 97-100% signal strength, the SB manages 60% at best and
drops as low as 35%, which is when the stuttering starts.  Poor
considering it's in line-of-sight of the router.

Anyway, I debated whether to shell out for triple set of Homeplug mains
ethernet widgets but didn't want to spend £120 making all my wireless
kit redundant.  In the end I paid £40 for another wireless access
point, which I've used in bridge mode to extend the network and I've
connected the SB to it with an ethernet cable.  Since then it's behaved
impeccably.


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread erland

I feel I'm getting a bit off topic of the original meaning of the
thread, but here it comes.

NWP Wrote: 
> If the databases are linked, either realtime or with periodic
> import/exports, how are they linked?
> 
> They only way I can think of that would be possible would be linking on
> the field that contains the filepath.  I don't know anything about the
> internal workings of the slimserver db, but I assume there is a field
> that contains the path to the file.
The TrackStat plugin which stores its own persistent information inside
the slimserver database uses the following information as links between
the TrackStat tables and the slimserver tables:
1. Primary link is musicbrainz id's (slimserver will read the
musicbrainz tags from the files and store them in its database)
2. If musicbrainz id's does not exist the filepath is used as link
instead.

This results that if you have musicbrainz id's in the tags of your
files the links will survive a slimserver rescan. If you don't the
links will survive a rescan as long as you don't move the file.

There are also a third option for linking which might be possible to
use, but I think it isn't supported by slimserver yet. This third
option is the new PUID defined by musicdns.org.

Regarding storage of information in tags, my opinion is that tags is
useful for information that doesn't change often and isn't different
for different users. I don't want software to change my music files
continuously , the reason is that there is to easy that there is a bug
in the software that completely destroys the music file.

This means that tags should be used for stuff like:
- unique ids (PUID's, musicbrainz id's)
- artists, albums, track names
- track lengths, track numbers

Tags should on the other hand not be used for stuff like:
- last played time
- play counts
- ratings (which will be different for different users)

However, its still important that all this information is persistently
stored somewhere since it can't be easily regenerated.


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[slim] SB2 Dead - HELP!

2006-05-25 Thread Cessquill

Hi

My SB2 has been in my office, and powered down when not in use.  I came
to turn it on the other day and the screen is completely blank.

I've tested the power supply - that's fine, and there is a small light
coming out of the optical output.  Other than that - nothing.

WHAT DO I DO?!


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[slim] Re: Linksys wifi crashing

2006-05-25 Thread Patrick Dixon

Mine's running 1.02.9 - but I think there are two versions of hardware
and mine's the earlier one.


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[slim] Set Clock

2006-05-25 Thread KevinW

The clock that is part of the screen saver display is there a way to set
it for correct time.  Is it updated through the network?  Are there any
settings for this?

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Re: [slim] Set Clock

2006-05-25 Thread Michael Herger

The clock that is part of the screen saver display is there a way to set
it for correct time.  Is it updated through the network?  Are there any
settings for this?


It's the current time on your server - set it there.

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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread Michaelwagner

There is another tag that can be used as an ID tag. Each track made with
a proper tagger knows the CD ID that it came from. The combination of CD
ID and track number should make any track unique.

I don't recall at the moment what the tag is called, but it's the thing
that allows taggers to know what album your track came from even if the
album name tag is gone.

Oh, and I think Ceejay's analysis is correct - the reason we're tying
ourselves in knots is that there are really several types of data being
mushed together in the slimserver database these days (it just kinda
growed), and without separating them by persistance and scope you can't
have a meaningful discussion.


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[slim] Re: Set Clock

2006-05-25 Thread Crispy

mherger Wrote: 
> > It's the current time on your server - set it there.

On Wintel - I get along fine with Atomic Clock (freeware).
http://worldtimeserver.com


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> There is another tag that can be used as an ID tag. Each track made with
> a proper tagger knows the CD ID that it came from. The combination of CD
> ID and track number should make any track unique.
> 
> I don't recall at the moment what the tag is called, but it's the thing
> that allows taggers to know what album your track came from even if the
> album name tag is gone.
> 

Yeah, but what about tracks that don't come from a CD?  For example,  I
keep mp3s from famous speeches that I've found on the internet.


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread Michaelwagner

Fair enough. There has to be a process that assigns tag IDs for music
that didn't come from CDs, like music that came from old LPs, speeches
like you say, home recordings, etc.

This is why I say there has to be a tagger that can handle the needs of
Slmserver, but isn't part of Slimserver and can have a real user
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[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!

2006-05-25 Thread Siduhe

Is it just the screen that is completely blank, or can you not connect
via the web interface and play music at all ?

First suggestion to rule out just screen blankage: Press the brightness
button on the remote a couple of times - it could be that SB is on and
functioning but the brightness has been set to 0.

If not, a few more details of your setup please ?  OS / version
slimserver / how is it connected to your network ?

If you unplug and plug the power back in, does the SB default to
network set up or does nothing happen ?

What about a hard reset - (unplug and replug power supply all the while
holding down the Add button) but you will lose your settings with this.


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[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!

2006-05-25 Thread Cessquill

Siduhe Wrote: 
> Is it just the screen that is completely blank, or can you not connect
> via the web interface and play music at all ?
I will try that when I get home, but other options not looking good.

Siduhe Wrote: 
> First suggestion to rule out just screen blankage: Press the brightness
> button on the remote a couple of times - it could be that SB is on and
> functioning but the brightness has been set to 0.
Nothing going from that

Siduhe Wrote: 
> If not, a few more details of your setup please ?  OS / version
> slimserver / how is it connected to your network ?
Windows XP SP2, Slimserver running 6.2.2 - 7135 (although I think I was
running previous full release when it went down), it's connected via
wireless

Siduhe Wrote: 
> If you unplug and plug the power back in, does the SB default to network
> set up or does nothing happen ?
Nothing.  Not even the splash screen scrolling across.

Siduhe Wrote: 
> What about a hard reset - (unplug and replug power supply all the while
> holding down the Add button) but you will lose your settings with this.
Tried that just now - nothing. (also changed batteries in remote)

Not looking good here...


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[slim] Re: Squeeze box dropping off Wireless network constantly usingDraytek Vigor 2600 router

2006-05-25 Thread dave w

An update on this- no good news yet. :(
have now exchanged around 12 emails with draytek...still no nearer to
resolution. I'm told it is with their 2nd/3rd line support engineers..
I have no idea how they can hope to resolve this without actually
building this in their lab.

What can cause the drops ?- it can only be:
1/ The SB3 responding badly to some 'dodgy' ethernet frames sent out
from the router when the DSL is connected, or
2/ the draytek dropping the connection because of some memory or other
bizarre firmware issue.

I'm going to get a wireless sniffer onto the LAN to check if there are
any malformed/spurious ethernet frames that are present when the dsl is
connected (which the SB responds badly to). If there is nothing coming
over the network then it has to be point 2. I am hoping I will see
something coming out of the draytek as then I have some real
substantive data to throw at draytek (rather than reporting the
symptoms)...or even slimdevices could be part of the fix (if there is
something odd that causes the wireless to drop - either the SB3 ignores
it or the draytek does not send it!)

This is all conjecture for nowI'll post any findings, or any
updates from Draytek.


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[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!

2006-05-25 Thread Siduhe

I agree, not good.  Support[at]slimdevices.com may be a good idea.


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread tom permutt

rudholm Wrote: 
> Yep.  "danish" is elliptical for "Danish pastry" (it's even in the
> dictionary this way).
> 
> Dad's from Copenhagen and he refers to such a pastry as a "danish" so I
> figure it's fair game for me...Of course it is, but in exactly the same way 
> that "microwave" is
elliptical for "microwave oven."  I just found it noteworthy that you
took "danish" for granted at a time when "microwave" was still strange
to you.  I am old enough to remember when some people still thought it
was improper to speak of "a television," and "radio" went through the
same thing a generation earlier.

Anyway, I once read that in Denmark they were "Viennese."  Any truth to
that, in your dad's view?  And to go thoroughly off topic, I've also
heard that President Kennedy's famous line, "Ich bin ein Berliner,"
means approximately the same thing as "I am a Danish," except that a
berliner is a jelly doughnut.  "Ich bin Berliner" would be correct,
like "I am Danish."


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox for Sale, Hard Drive Question

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Lanctot

radish Wrote: 
> Seagate IDE drives are amazingly quiet, but the SATA models are
> (annoyingly) louder. The Samsung SpinPoint have a good reputation for
> being silent but the only one I've bought is very loud, so I guess it
> must vary from model to model. Read up carefully on silentpcreview.com.

I have both.  They are both 250 GB IDE versions, both used for storing
music.  The Samsung SpinPoint P is the primary music drive, the Seagate
Barracuda 7200.9 is mounted in an external enclosure and used as a
mirrored backup for the Samsung.

The Samsung is unbelievably quiet.  I find the Seagate noisier, but 
that could be because it's in an external enclosure which resonates on
my desk.  I hear an almost imperceptible seek noise from the Samsung
but there's a definite idle whirr/whine from the Seagate as well as a
very noticeable seek noise.

Both are very quiet compared to the older 40 GB Western Digital that
was doing this job before.  That one was noisier than my two Western
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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread fingers

Hey ceejay, I am using method 2, browsing via Artwork to the album and
playing.  As I mentioned earler, when I browse to the album and open
it, all the tracks display in correct order.  However, when I tell it
to play is when the order is not in sync.  I did check the tags and
they have the correct numbers associated with each track.  Really
strange.


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[slim] Re: Soundtrack albums and Browse by artist

2006-05-25 Thread Glenn Coombs

Geoff,

Yes I can see how that would work. I would prefer to be able to see it
from the "browse by artist" menu though.

It seems inconsistant to me that slimserver has identified an album as
being a compilation (by virtue of the artist tags being different), but
has then decided not to apply the same rules it does when it identifies
a compilation album by virtue of the TCMP or COMPILATION tag.

If I get some spare time I may have a look at the perl code...

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[slim] Re: Squeezebox for Sale, Hard Drive Question

2006-05-25 Thread radish

Yeah, I must have a duff Samsung. I have probably 4 or 5 IDE Barracuda's
and they're all nice and quiet, but the identical model in SATA form is
much louder (this has been confirmed by others).


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[slim] Skins

2006-05-25 Thread IainHar



Can anyone help me please. I was checking out Skins for my PC and selected 
one which I cannot now clear from my desktop. I did not catch the name of it, 
but it looks like an Apple I-Pod skin. White screen, Large Icons. There appears 
to be no way back to change this. I've clicked on all buttons, and nothing takes 
me back to settings. I have just downloaded newest version of Slim hoping it 
would default back to the original skin, but it hasn't.
I have looked in all the folders in the Slimserver programme folder, but to 
be honest that is getting beyond my level of knowledge. Can anyone advise how to 
get back the settings to change the skin. Please someone get rid of this 
horrible skin which leads to stalemate.
 
Thanks in advance
 
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[slim] Re: IE7 and Fishbone

2006-05-25 Thread timmorris

Fishbone works with 6.5 on IE7, but the last time I tried it didn't work
with 6.2.2

Tim


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread snarlydwarf

erland Wrote: 
> 
> There are also a third option for linking which might be possible to
> use, but I think it isn't supported by slimserver yet. This third
> option is the new PUID defined by musicdns.org.
> 

Careful: PUID's are not unique.

They're very very close.  Like this one: 

http://musicbrainz.org/showpuid.html?puid=17bfb9ea-cf24-ff3f-553c-337b672cbf61

But note that the albums don't actually match.  It's scary how well
they grouped on the same piece, since the whole PUID creation is
entireley machine based... but the musicbrainz ID is more unique: these
three versions of the same song each have unique MB ID's.


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[slim] Re: Skins

2006-05-25 Thread aubuti

You can get back to the default skin by browsing to
http://localhost:9000/Default/ , where of course you insert the name or
IP of your machine running slimserver in place of 'localhost'.


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[slim] A hardware bug? Digital output is always on!

2006-05-25 Thread lovemov

I just realized that the digital output (RCA) will not turn off even I
power off it from remote or server.

This is a serious bug, since I won't be able to share my external D/A
with my transport now. The D/A does auto sense, once the RCA signal is
there, it has the priority and will never switch to other ports.

Is there a fix?


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[slim] Re: Playlist Order

2006-05-25 Thread jr_birdmann

Thanks - worked great!


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[slim] Re: A hardware bug? Digital output is always on!

2006-05-25 Thread azinck3

lovemov Wrote: 
> I just realized that the digital output (RCA) will not turn off even I
> power off it from remote or server.
> 
> This is a serious bug, since I won't be able to share my external D/A
> with my transport now. The D/A does auto sense, once the RCA signal is
> there, it has the priority and will never switch to other ports.
> 
> Is there a fix?


This was requested a while back.  Looks like they're pretty close to a
fix:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1397


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread rudholm

tom permutt Wrote: 
> Of course it is, but in exactly the same way that "microwave" is
> elliptical for "microwave oven."  I just found it noteworthy that you
> took "danish" for granted at a time when "microwave" was still strange
> to you.  I am old enough to remember when some people still thought it
> was improper to speak of "a television," and "radio" went through the
> same thing a generation earlier.
> 
> Anyway, I once read that in Denmark they were "Viennese."  Any truth to
> that, in your dad's view?  And to go thoroughly off topic, I've also
> heard that President Kennedy's famous line, "Ich bin ein Berliner,"
> means approximately the same thing as "I am a Danish," except that a
> berliner is a jelly doughnut.  "Ich bin Berliner" would be correct,
> like "I am Danish."

You are correct, in Denmark and Sweden (and I would assume Norway and
possibly Iceland as well) they are called "viennese bread".  The Danish
spelling would be "wienerbrød", while Swedish uses a different
diacritical on the last vowel: "wienerbröt".  The word traditionally
refers to a somewhat specific sweetened bread rolled multiple times
with butter before baking but usage has of course generalized a bit.

Point well taken, though.  I assume "television set" was the proper
term, but was a radio a "radio set"?  Will a "network music player"
ever become "a network"?  I hope not.


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[slim] PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread Lowrent

Hello everyone, this is my first post, i got my squeezebox this morning,
at work. 

I'm wondering if anybody has started working on a PSP skin for
SlimServer.

I'm a programmer/graphic designer working on interfaces for cellphone
games so i'm used to small screen sizes and UI stuff.

I have many ideas to hack the hell out of it and implement special
tricks like reading the analog pad to scroll lists faster (i'm a very
good javascripter).

If nothing has been done yet, i'll start working on it pretty soon.


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[slim] Re: A hardware bug? Digital output is always on!

2006-05-25 Thread seanadams

This is a software feature and will be changed. What you consider a bug
is a benefit for others, since having the output on at all times helps
to maintain sync with the receiver in situations where you would not
want to drop the carrier, eg to avoid a few seconds of "lock time" lag.
This was an issue with SB1, where we had limited control over the s/pdif
and could not force it to be on continuously. The plan is to make this
behavior configurable.

By the way, SB3 is the only device I'm aware of to feature a completely
"soft" (as opposed to silicon) s/pdif transmitter, which allows us to
tweak it however we want. It's just a matter of prioritizing this
improvement. Please feel free to vote or add additional comments to the
bug if you have anything to add.


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[slim] Re: PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread rick's cafe

you should probably check out the work done by BKLASS on the Nokia 770
skin which many use on the PSP... very interested to see the work which
could be done for a dedicated PSP skin - as I use my PSP to view the
interface very often


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[slim] Re: PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

To my knowledge, no. But, you might start by looking at the Nokia770
skin in slimserver 6.5, which is heavily javascripted and built for a
handheld landscape display. I know that at least a few have been using
that skin on PSP to some level of success.

There was a major change introduced to 6.5 this week that makes things
a bit unstable, so I'd recommend downloading the 22 May daily build.

cheers,
#!/ben


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[slim] Re: A hardware bug? Digital output is always on!

2006-05-25 Thread JJZolx

lovemov Wrote: 
> I just realized that the digital output (RCA) will not turn off even I
> power off it from remote or server.
> 
> This is a serious bug, since I won't be able to share my external D/A
> with my transport now. The D/A does auto sense, once the RCA signal is
> there, it has the priority and will never switch to other ports.
> 
> Is there a fix?
My DAC works exactly the same way.  It has both coax SPDIF and Toslink
optical inputs, with no physical switch, and gives priority to the coax
connection.  One workaround may be to use coax for the transport and
Toslink for the Squeezebox.

However, if the transport behaves similarly, by always sending a valid
digital signal, then you're left to turn off the transport to play the
Squeezebox.  By the looks of request #1397, you'd be left to turn off
the Squeezebox to allow the transport to play, so it's six of one, half
dozen of the other.


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[slim] Re: PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

http://slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/SlimServer_v2006-05-22/


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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread ceejay

fingers Wrote: 
> 
> 
> My tags are setup as follows:  \\ -
> .  Can you please explain what I need to change in order to have
> a leading 0 in front of the single digit track numbers?
> 
> Thanks

I'm puzzled by this comment - this sounds like you're describing the
file path (directories and file name), not the tags which are stored
inside the file. What program, exactly, are you using to read the tags
in the files?

Ceejay.


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Re: [slim] Re: Soundtrack albums and Browse by artist

2006-05-25 Thread Geoff B

On 5/25/06, Glenn Coombs wrote:

It seems inconsistant to me that slimserver has identified an album as
being a compilation (by virtue of the artist tags being different), but
has then decided not to apply the same rules it does when it identifies
a compilation album by virtue of the TCMP or COMPILATION tag.

If I get some spare time I may have a look at the perl code...


I agree - and have the same ambition to look at the code.  Just have
to find the time...
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Re: [slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread Scott Gardner
I thought it was about the cost. If you call them cables or phono  
cables or RCA cables it refers to wires that you wouldn't want to  
spend too much money on. However, there is no limit to what some will  
spend on "Interconnects"! Especially if they are packaged in a nice box.


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On May 23, 2006, at 12:19 AM, seanadams wrote:



Michaelwagner Wrote:

yeah, that's my sense too.

Interconnect implies 2 way traffic.

Doesn't seem to apply to RCA cables.

At least, if there was 2 way signal, that would be very usual :-)


To be pedantic: although information flows in one direction, the
current goes both ways and alternates. Also, "inter" just means
"between" - it implies nothing about (bi)directionality. And finally,
"interconnect" isn't even a noun, so it's a silly name for a cable
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[slim] Re: PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread Lowrent

Ok, i'll take a look at the Nokia skin but it really looks like it's
designed specially for touch screen use.

What i'm planning is designing in an interface focusing on DPAD use 
and highly optimized for the PSP display.

My head is boiling with ideas at the moment. I have to dig info about
the DHTML power of the Netfront browser.

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[slim] Re: BTW : Who's the Pink Martini superfan?

2006-05-25 Thread Jez

The guy who did our product photography is 'good friends' with Pink
Martini's singer. Of course we loved the band anyway and they we
suitable different to The Clash. We do like to use such opportunities
to highlight music we love and it's cool to be in the position to do
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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread GoCubs

Hopefully the 770 will be quicker once the new 2006 OS update is
released...

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[slim] Re: A hardware bug? Digital output is always on!

2006-05-25 Thread lovemov

Make it configurable is the way to go. Cool, I can wait for the new
releases, no problem. Thanks.


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread tom permutt

rudholm Wrote: 
> I assume "television set" was the proper term, but was a radio a "radio
> set"?  Will a "network music player" ever become "a network"?  I hope
> not.Indeed, "radio set" was once the jargon. Furthermore, it was meant to
suggest that what was being talked about was not a single device but a
collection of devices, mainly tubes, even after radios (sic) were being
sold in single boxes to people not manly enough to build their own.


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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread fingers

probably not as puzzled as me ;)

I am pretty much a newbie at all of this.


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread rudholm

tom permutt Wrote: 
> Indeed, "radio set" was once the jargon. Furthermore, it was meant to
> suggest that what was being talked about was not a single device but a
> collection of devices, mainly tubes, even after radios (sic) were being
> sold in single boxes to people not manly enough to build their own.

Ah, it hadn't ocurred to me that "set" in that context meant, well,
"set".  Makes perfect sense now.  That's one of those things that went
from making intuitive sense to just being arbitrary.  It's sad to see
when that happens in language.

I'm barely old enough to remember Heathkit.  They used to have a store
here in LA over in the Mid-Wilshire area.  A fun destination when I was
a kid.  I built an alarm clock and lamp controller but never a radio or
television set.


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread seanadams

rudholm Wrote: 
> Ah, it hadn't ocurred to me that "set" in that context meant, well,
> "set".  

Some trivia for fellow logophiles: the word "set" had more meanings
than any other in English. 
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=set

I also like "scan" - it has two exactly opposite meanings!


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Re: [slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread Mitch Harding
Yeah, peruse is like scan in that regard.  And the term "moot point" (all-too-often misspoken as "mute point") has undergone a change in meaning from "a point worthy of discussion" to exactly the opposite.
I've always found the evolution of language to be fascinating.On 5/25/06, seanadams <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:rudholm Wrote:
> Ah, it hadn't ocurred to me that "set" in that context meant, well,> "set".Some trivia for fellow logophiles: the word "set" had more meaningsthan any other in English.
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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

NWP Wrote: 
> If you don't mind something larger, you could always check out a tablet
> PC.  You can usually find old Fujitsu Stylistic touchpads with a
> pentium III 400 MHz for under $200 on ebay.  Put Firefox or Opera on it
> though because I hear a lot of the AJAX stuff in the 770 doesn't work
> well in IE.

Whoa, that's a heck of a thought. I had no idea you could pick up a
touchscreen that cheap. Do you have one? Anyone have one? Anyone used
it for controlling slimserver? If it's a great slim remote I would
mostly care less if it did anything else well...

I still have a dream of having a dedicated "slim kiosk" that would sit
next to the squeezebox and could run a slick UI (my allegiance is,
unsurprisingly, to the Nokia770). The 770 itself is not a good option
for that role (it's a handheld, not something to view from across the
room).

cheers,
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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

bklaas Wrote: 
> Whoa, that's a heck of a thought. I had no idea you could pick up a
> touchscreen that cheap. Do you have one? Anyone have one? Anyone used
> it for controlling slimserver? If it's a great slim remote I would
> mostly care less if it did anything else well...
> 
> I still have a dream of having a dedicated "slim kiosk" that would sit
> next to the squeezebox and could run a slick UI (my allegiance is,
> unsurprisingly, to the Nokia770). The 770 itself is not a good option
> for that role (it's a handheld, not something to view from across the
> room).
> 
> cheers,
> #!/ben

My friend has two of them.  They work well, but they aren't hand helds.
They are good for the bartop though.  One of the problems with buying a
used unit like this is that you can't really expect long battery life. 
He leaves them plugged in when using them.

I understand your allegiance to the 770, but if they aren't hooking you
up with some free stuff by now after you've indirectly sold so many
units for them (I know my brother bought one just to use as a
squeezebox controller because of your skin), it may be time to rethink
that allegiance and rename your skin.  How about the "Klassic Handheld
Skin"?


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[slim] Re: PSP server skin ?

2006-05-25 Thread mactavish

Lowrent, keep us informed of your progress.

I have a PSP but find the other inferfaces slow and too memory hungry
for the PSP. Sadly I don't have any skills to help. 

I would love some simple interface that possibly displayed art when
playing. Along the lines of the Sonos display ;-)


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[slim] Re: Slimserver No Album No Artist

2006-05-25 Thread Millwood

I've seen similar problems that went away after I blew away the data
base and rescanned.  Just rescan wasn't good enough.

In windows, with the server stopped, blow away 
\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache

and restart the server.

YMMV


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

If you are looking for something even cheaper, here's a really good
thread on the Jornada that can supposedly be bought off ebay for
$120-140ish and run linux:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1811688

I'm not sure how it would do with the nokia 700 skin because of the
AJAX calls, but if you want a very cheap handheld I recommend reading
the thread - there's a lot of good info in there.


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

Sorry, I mistyped. I meant I had allegiance to my Nokia770 skin, not to
the 770 itself (I edited it after I posted the comment). I'm impressed
with the effort and the concept of the 770, but it's a far from perfect
device.

I have considered that Nokia770 isn't probably the best name for the
skin since it works so well on standard PCs (and apparently even works
on a PSP). The downside of renaming it would be that I wouldn't have
such a good excuse not to support IE. You have no idea how much more
fun it is to write a web interface when not having to deal with the
lousy quirks of Internet Exploder.

Yeah, I'm thinking "bartop" for the stylistic. It'd always be plugged
in and dedicated to controlling the squeezebox (I'm thinking firefox in
full-screen mode). With those tablets that cheap, it's going to be hard
to resist not getting one at some point. How did you feel about screen
clarity/resolution? Also, I'm assuming I could stick an 802.11g PCMCIA
card in one?

Ah, gadgets...
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[slim] Complete uninstall

2006-05-25 Thread rbl

I had run 6.2.1 for a month or so with no problems at all. I then tried
the beta version 6.5b1 and ever since then have had problems,
specifically
1) if I do a clear and rescan it dosn't clear the existing library
2) it is very hard to enter a new music folder. I enter it, click
Change, the new folder is shown at the top. But if I exit the settings
page and return it has reverted to the old folder.

I have uninstalled, deleted the directory, and reinstalled 6.2.2 but I
still have these problems.

Is there something else I have to do for a complete uninstall like
clear the registry or something? Or any other ideas?


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

One more important question about those stylistic pads: do they make
noise? I'm assuming they have a fan (and a HD), but in your experience
were they quiet?

cheers,
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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

bklaas Wrote: 
> 
> Yeah, I'm thinking "bartop" for the stylistic. It'd always be plugged
> in and dedicated to controlling the squeezebox (I'm thinking firefox in
> full-screen mode). With those tablets that cheap, it's going to be hard
> to resist not getting one at some point. How did you feel about screen
> clarity/resolution? Also, I'm assuming I could stick an 802.11g PCMCIA
> card in one?
> 
> Ah, gadgets...
> #!/ben

Clarity/Resolution were fine, like a normal laptop of that generation. 
It runs at 800x600.  Yeah, it doesn't have built in wireless, so you
have to stick in a PCMCIA card.

One thing that annoys me about it is the lack of a keyboard port. 
Supposedly there is a docking station that you can hook a keyboard
into, but my friend never has that out and just uses an on-screen
keyboard.  Then again, if you are just going to use it to control
music, you don't really need a keyboard.

btw: I designed the browseamp skin I mentioned to you the other day
specifically for the Stylistic.  In fact, it's been tough to get him to
switch to slimserver because he's already gotten too comfortable
controlling his music with that.

bklaas Wrote: 
> One more important question about those stylistic pads: do they make
> noise? I'm assuming they have a fan (and a HD), but in your experience
> were they quiet?
> 
> cheers,
> #!/ben

Yeah, I've never noticed any noise.  Then again, it's outside and we do
usually have the TV or music on.


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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread rudholm

seanadams Wrote: 
> Some trivia for fellow logophiles: the word "set" has more meanings than
> any other in English.  http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=set
> 
> I also like "scan" - it has two exactly opposite meanings!

A list of such words can be found here: 
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cellis/antagonym.html


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

Good stuff...800x600 would look fantastic with the Nokia770 skin (the
770 is 800 pixels wide as well, and my UI design decisions are all
based on an 800 pixel wide screen).

This will be an interesting thing to check out...luckily I'm in no
hurry so I can wait a few months and see if these ever drop into the
"impulse buy" range. Sub-$200 is pretty darn close though...

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2.2 horror - move to beta or back to 6.2.1?

2006-05-25 Thread jodrell

I've seen the same behaviour, and nothing was improved by jumping all
the way up to 6.5 instead.  I'm going to try and downgrade to a nightly
build of 6.3 and see if that fix's things


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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread ceejay

fingers Wrote: 
> probably not as puzzled as me ;)
> 
> I am pretty much a newbie at all of this.  I have confirmed that the ID
> tags do show 2 digits per track (01, 02, 03 etc).  Is there a
> configuration setting within SlimServer that I can order the tracks by?

No, there is no configuration setting - slimserver will always play
tracks in the order of the TRACKNUMBER tag... (1) if it can find and
read them in the first place and (2) you are not browsing by music
folder.

What format are the files in (MP3? FLAC?) ?

And, again, exactly what are you using to confirm the value of the
tags?

If you haven't already, read
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToTagging and also
download and install mp3tag from http://www.mp3tag.de/en/  ... and then
use it to look in the tags for this album.

Don't worry, we'll get it sorted eventually!!

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[slim] No FF or REW in native files!

2006-05-25 Thread Baylorgator

I've started ripping cds in FLAC, because its native to the SB3.
Accordingly, my understanding is that it should allow ff and rew inside
the song, where formats that must be converted (for example apple
lossless etc.) do not offer this.

Unfortunately I am not able to ff and rew within each song.  I can only
skip to the beginning of the song (for rew) or skip to the next song
(for ff). I've checked the slimserver software and the files are being
sent via wireless in FLAC (i.e. not transcoded to another format). Am I
missing something here?


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox with Network Hard Drive ?

2006-05-25 Thread funkstar

There really should be a dedicated NAS forum on here these days

with stickies :)


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[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2.2 horror - move to beta or back to 6.2.1?

2006-05-25 Thread Siduhe

jodrell, If you upgrade / downgrade to / from 6.5 to any other version -
it is worth deleting your database slimserversql.db file entirely before
doing the upgrade / downgrade.

For what it's worth, I'm very happy with 6.3 currently (although it's
still pre-release).


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[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2.2 horror - move to beta or back to 6.2.1?

2006-05-25 Thread jodrell

erm, tried the up/downgrade with no joy (6.3 stays up for about 30
seconds before going away again) . . . where do I find the
slimserversql.db so that I can delete it??  I'm running it on OSX


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[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2.2 horror - move to beta or back to 6.2.1?

2006-05-25 Thread Siduhe

That sounds pretty much like the problem I had until I deleted the db. 
The build of the database is very different between 6.2/3 and 6.5
branches.

See the 6th or 7th post in this thread for details relevant to mac
setup.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22543&highlight=slimserversql.db


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[slim] Suggestion for playlist management

2006-05-25 Thread Lowrent

When adding a whole album, the tracks are all added individually to the
playlist.

Let's say I add 5 albums in a playlist, it's almost impossible to swap
the order of album number 2 and 3. I would need to play with arrows for
30 minutes to reorder the albums.

I suggest the albums added in a playlist stays as albums.

example : 

5. some track name
4. another track name
album name
10. other track name


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[slim] Re: Suggestion for playlist management

2006-05-25 Thread azinck3

Lowrent Wrote: 
> When adding a whole album, the tracks are all added individually to the
> playlist.
> 
> Let's say I add 5 albums in a playlist, it's almost impossible to swap
> the order of album number 2 and 3. I would need to play with arrows for
> 30 minutes to reorder the albums.
> 
> I suggest the albums added in a playlist stays as albums.
> 
> example : 
> 
> 5. some track name
> 4. another track name
> album name
> 10. other track name

This has the potential to add a *lot* of complication to the playlist
code and interface.

For more advanced playlist creation/management I'd recommend you use a
separate music management program.

However, you can do what you're requesting more efficiently than you
might think if you use the fishbone skin.  In fishbone you can delete
an entire album from the playlist.  Then begin playing the track that
you want to insert your album *after*, and use the "play next" feature
of the skin to insert the desired album.


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[slim] Re: Minimum hw requirements for PocketPC slimserver thick client (e.g. TelCanto)

2006-05-25 Thread Notthebomba

Jim:

I am a new SB3 user, but have a Dell Axim v50 already. Can I use the
Axim as a "remote" to play .flac files? (I've been ripping all my CDs
to flac.) All the chatter I've seen (and the TelCanto site) only
reference MP3 and wav.

Thanks,

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[slim] Re: harmony 880 and squeeze 3

2006-05-25 Thread lanierb

Has anyone gotten the 880 to work with squeeze 3 and discrete on/off
codes?  If so, how did you do it?  I tried telling it to use "PowerOn"
and "PowerOff" codes but it didn't work. 

THanks,

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[slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread Michaelwagner

seanadams Wrote: 
> trivia for fellow logophiles

An enthusiast of the logo programming language? :-)


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[slim] Re: harmony 880 and squeeze 3

2006-05-25 Thread radish

lanierb Wrote: 
> Has anyone gotten the 880 to work with squeeze 3 and discrete on/off
> codes?  If so, how did you do it?  I tried telling it to use "PowerOn"
> and "PowerOff" codes but it didn't work. 
> 
> THanks,
> 
> Lanier

I just use the toggle. I have a feeling you may need to fiddle with the
slimserver's ir file to get the discreet codes to work - but I'm not
sure.


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread crooner

Update:
I got a response from Tech support today. They suggested resetting the
Xilink which I already did. They also suggested pressing the left arrow
for five seconds to bring up the "setup networking" screen. Negative...

I guess I'll have to return the unit for warranty service.

Now, I am wondering about this failure...

The Squeezebox uses regular computer grade chips just like your average
PC or peripheral. Nothing exotic, If I am not mistaken. Therefore, in
stands to reason that reliability should be excellent.

This is the first time in all my computer years that I have a
catastrophic failure on a device. I've never had a total HD failure for
instance.. And I've been using PCs since 1989, almost 20 years!

Never experienced static electricity damage on a component, motherboard
or CPU. Not even a burned out flyback on the old CRT monitors.

I guess my excellent track record has been shattered.


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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread fingers

The format is MP3.  I am using a program called THE GODFATHER to confirm
the tag values.  I have tried Mp3Tag before but found that it rescans
the music folder each and everytime it is launched which takes a
considerable amount of time. It also is much more combersome to use
than The Godfather (harder to find the albums). I have just downloaded
and installed it again.  It also confirms the tag information is
correct.  I will have a look at the link you posted for the Guider to
Tagging.


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread snarlydwarf

crooner Wrote: 
> 
> This is the first time in all my computer years that I have a
> catastrophic failure on a device. I've never had a total HD failure for
> instance.. And I've been using PCs since 1989, almost 20 years!
> 

Lucky.  The 7-month old hard drive on my work computer died on Tuesday.
And, no, my computer at work is more than 7 months old: that's the
second dead drive on that machine.  This one at least wasn't a total
failure: I was able to rescue the important stuff without too much
trouble.  (Though I still have 400 some files to wade through in the
saved drives "lost+found"... it seems like useless stuff like cookies,
temp files and such.)  The last one was a total failure.

Needless to say, I bought a new USB external drive and immediately
backed up my music at home

(And to complete the irony: the power went off at home for almost an
hour yesterday while I was backing up...  Didn't lose anything...
this time.)


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[slim] Can't Open File For

2006-05-25 Thread jacobson

Ever since upgrading to 6.2.2, I have not been able to play ANY music. 
Regardless of what track I try to play, I get "Can't Open File For" on
the player, whether a squeezebox or softsqueeze.  I have tried
uninstalling, deleting the database, full rescans, downgrading to
6.2.1.  None of these strategies have worked, and 6.2.1 used to run
fine!

I have seen other threads discuss this issue but none seems to have
found the cause of the problem or the solution for me.

Please help.  I'm musicless.

Thanks.


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[slim] Re: Can't Open File For

2006-05-25 Thread azinck3

jacobson Wrote: 
> Ever since upgrading to 6.2.2, I have not been able to play ANY music. 
> Regardless of what track I try to play, I get "Can't Open File For" on
> the player, whether a squeezebox or softsqueeze.  I have tried
> uninstalling, deleting the database, full rescans, downgrading to
> 6.2.1.  None of these strategies have worked, and 6.2.1 used to run
> fine!
> 
> I have seen other threads discuss this issue but none seems to have
> found the cause of the problem or the solution for me.
> 
> Please help.  I'm musicless.
> 
> Thanks.


That's lousy, sorry to hear that.  If you're looking for a quick fix
you could roll back to 6.2.1 if that was working for you well.  You
might also give 6.3 a try.  It's a pretty stable build based on 6.2.2
that includes a lot of bugfixes, so if your problem's fixed there then
that'll probably be the end of the story.  

If neither of those answers are satisfactory, then we'll probably need
to hear a bit more about your setup.  OS, file types, squeezebox
version, network configuration, etc.


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[slim] Re: Can't Open File For

2006-05-25 Thread jacobson

I could upgrade to 6.3.  I haven't tried that yet.  I usually use the
rpms on a Fedora server.  6.3 is only in tarballs.  Any tricks to
upgrading from an rpm to a tarball?

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[slim] Anyone else hearing blips of crud in a stream

2006-05-25 Thread Millwood

Sorry for the title - can't think of a way to say it in one line.

I'm running latest 6.3 and an SB3.  But this is not a new issue.

When I'm playing a live stream, and I think more often soon after its
started after playing something else, I hear a very short segment which
is clearly out of place.

For example, a spoken word fragment in the middle of an instrumental
passage.  The fragments are quite short, and when it happens there will
often be several fragments different from each other.

In implementation terms, it sounds like what I'd expect if a stale
buffer fragment was either played  by the SB3 or sent to it by the
server.

I can't reproduce this.  I can't prove its not in the source stream. 
So I'm trying to find out if others are experiencing this.

The last time it happened, I was listening to the WCPE 128kb mp3 feed.


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[slim] Now Playing in Win MediaPlayer 10 doesn't work

2006-05-25 Thread hotmachiato

When using WinMP10 referinc the slimserver stream:

http:/stream.mp3

I can't see any of the tag info, i.e. no Album, Artist or Track. All I
see is "Song:stream" and "Playing 'stream'': XYZ Kbits/sec". I suspect
it is WinMP10, but would like to get that confirmed. 

When I play to the same music source file locally from my computer, the
proper tag info is displayed. There is something that slimserver does
when it streams the data that is different than the tagged info
embedded in an mp3.file.


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Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread Chip Hart
crooner wrote:
> This is the first time in all my computer years that I have a
> catastrophic failure on a device. I've never had a total HD failure for
> instance.. And I've been using PCs since 1989, almost 20 years!

Not once?  Wow.  

Perhaps it's because my company provides software and hardware
service, but replacing deceased hard drives is de rigeur for us.
Over the past 20 years, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
I've personally worked on a few dozen (and I'm not in support).
Heck, I must have 3 notebook drives sitting around my office
alone that have flamed out (one literally) but I haven't had
the heart to toss yet for some stupid reason.

I had a brand new Maxtor 250GB completely fail on me about 6m
back.  Calls to their support center confirmed it.  They sent me
a new 300GB to replace it, free of charge.  I'm buying Maxtors
now!

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[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread eliw

You will needd to buy Seagates now they bought Maxtor.


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[slim] Re: Now Playing in Win MediaPlayer 10 doesn't work

2006-05-25 Thread andyg

Does WMP handle the metadata from a live mp3 radio station?  Try the
stream below to test.  SlimServer sends now playing info in the same
fashion (interleaved metadata within the stream).  I know it works with
Winamp and iTunes so my first thought is a bug in WMP.

http://radioio.sc.llnwd.net:8610/


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[slim] Re: Anyone else hearing blips of crud in a stream

2006-05-25 Thread JJZolx

That's exactly the sort of thing that I hear when using Softsqueeze when
streaming mp3 from my home server over the Internet.  Most often it
happens when I skip a track.  Just before the new track starts I'll
hear a very small fragment of the skipped track.  But I also get the
same thing when changing radio stations in SoftSqueeze.

I know I've never heard it when listening to flac files from the local
server.  I think it's exactly what you say - stale data that doesn't
get flushed from the buffer.  Could it be difficulty in dealing with
mp3 streams?


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[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread crooner

Well, I was basically talking about computer equipment for home use.
Perhaps I had a problem or two with office machines back when I used to
work as system administrator. Still, reliability was not bad at all.

I remember my first HD was a clunker "ST" seagate (full height) with 33
MB capacity. I then upgraded to the 3.5 inch version with 44 MB around
1990 or so. 

I burned a Cyrix "586" chip once, but it was completely my fault. I
tried to attach a fan to it, and accidentally shorted the tiny pins!


chiphart Wrote: 
> 
>   Not once?  Wow.  
> 
>   Perhaps it's because my company provides software and hardware
>   service, but replacing deceased hard drives is de rigeur for us.
>   Over the past 20 years, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say
>   I've personally worked on a few dozen (and I'm not in support).
>   Heck, I must have 3 notebook drives sitting around my office
>   alone that have flamed out (one literally) but I haven't had
>   the heart to toss yet for some stupid reason.
> 
>   I had a brand new Maxtor 250GB completely fail on me about 6m
>   back.  Calls to their support center confirmed it.  They sent me
>   a new 300GB to replace it, free of charge.  I'm buying Maxtors
>   now!
> 
> -- 
> Chip Hart - Pediatric Solutions  *  Physician's Computer Company
> chip @ pcc.com   *  1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404
> 800-722-7708 *  http://www.pcc.com/~chip
> f.802-846-8178   *  Pediatric Software Just Got
> Smarter.
> Your Practice Just Got Healthier.


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Re: [slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread Jack Coates
CeeJay's right in  spirit, but separate linked databases scare me as a great source of problems. A single database extended on demand with an externally described schema can be done, but it's not particularly easy. Hence our current state.
I'd like to see a persistent database with support for useful information like ratings, and a separate database from the tags might be the right way to get that. Seems the LazySearch and other plugins could really benefit from a persistent database, and the performance gains from more infrequent scanning are hard to argue with.
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[slim] Re: Squeezebox sudden problem help!!!!

2006-05-25 Thread crooner

By the way, I am typing this on a $499 laptop from Fry's Electronics
(ZX-5360). I bought it back in October and has been working flawlessly
since day 1. Very impressive given this brand (Great Quality) is often
dubbed as "cheap". This thing is reliable and does the job for me. It
has never crashed! (fingers crossed)


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Re: [slim] Re: New promos on www.slimdevices.com

2006-05-25 Thread Jack Coates
On 5/25/06, Michaelwagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
seanadams Wrote:> trivia for fellow logophilesAn enthusiast of the logo programming language? :-)
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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Lanctot

Going back to the original subject of this thread regarding
capitalization, I do have a problem with SlimServer ignoring what I
so-purposefully put in the tags.

I'm trying to maintain album and track names as faithfully as possible
to how they are listed on the album itself, and this includes those
often-annoying stylistic capitalizations (or lack thereof) that various
artists go through.  Personally I find it rather silly, but the artists
didn't put it on there by chance, it was for a definite reason. 
Therefore for the sake of accuracy I have tried to preserve these
affectations in tags.

See here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=107576&postcount=15  My
problem is that SlimServer is doing exactly what the OP wishes it to do
- it is case -insensitive- in my case, listing tracks and albums that
should be attributable to "The Smashing Pumpkins" with "smashing
pumpkins".  I wish it wouldn't!  This is not accurate.

It's not the end of the world, it just looks kind of silly and defeats
the purpose of maintaining accuracy with capitalization and the way
artists sometimes subtly change their names over the years.

So I really would rather SlimServer not force case sensitivity and
keeps things exactly as they are in the tags.  Unlike the OP, my tags
are about as accurate as I can make them yet SlimServer sometimes
ignores that.


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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread snarlydwarf

The question is really, though, whether "typographic" changes are Artist
Intent for the music or just for cover art.

I have tons of tracks that "should" be in allcaps if I went by cover
art That would be painful to read.

In most cases, I don't think the band is changing their name, just
their logo.  Unless I want to try to guess the font (and figure out how
to load it into the SB...) used by each artist, it's best to just stick
to plain ascii/latin1/utf as the case may be.


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Re: [slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread Jack Coates
On 5/25/06, Mark Lanctot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Going back to the original subject of this thread regardingcapitalization, I do have a problem with SlimServer ignoring what I
so-purposefully put in the tags.I'm trying to maintain album and track names as faithfully as possibleto how they are listed on the album itself, and this includes thoseoften-annoying stylistic capitalizations (or lack thereof) that various
artists go through.  Personally I find it rather silly, but the artistsdidn't put it on there by chance, it was for a definite reason.Therefore for the sake of accuracy I have tried to preserve theseaffectations in tags.
See here:http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=107576&postcount=15  Myproblem is that SlimServer is doing exactly what the OP wishes it to do
- it is case -insensitive- in my case, listing tracks and albums thatshould be attributable to "The Smashing Pumpkins" with "smashingpumpkins".  I wish it wouldn't!  This is not accurate.
I have never seen it do that, unless there was a difference between v1 and v2 tags. I've been deletng v1 tags and forcing v2 tags, then forcing a full rescan.-- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
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[slim] Re: server database is case sensitive and that's bad. read why.

2006-05-25 Thread JJZolx

Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
> Going back to the original subject of this thread regarding
> capitalization, I do have a problem with SlimServer ignoring what I
> so-purposefully put in the tags.
> 
> I'm trying to maintain album and track names as faithfully as possible
> to how they are listed on the album itself, and this includes those
> often-annoying stylistic capitalizations (or lack thereof) that various
> artists go through.  Personally I find it rather silly, but the artists
> didn't put it on there by chance, it was for a definite reason. 
> Therefore for the sake of accuracy I have tried to preserve these
> affectations in tags.
> 
> See here:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=107576&postcount=15  My
> problem is that SlimServer is doing exactly what the OP wishes it to do
> - it is case -insensitive- in my case, listing tracks and albums that
> should be attributable to "The Smashing Pumpkins" with "smashing
> pumpkins".  I wish it wouldn't!  This is not accurate.
> 
> It's not the end of the world, it just looks kind of silly and defeats
> the purpose of maintaining accuracy with capitalization and the way
> artists sometimes subtly change their names over the years.
> 
> So I really would rather SlimServer not force case sensitivity and
> keeps things exactly as they are in the tags.  Unlike the OP, my tags
> are about as accurate as I can make them yet SlimServer sometimes
> ignores that.
There's a difference between what is _displayed_ and what is _used_ for
most operations, such as searching and sorting.  What is displayed is
neither here nor there - SlimServer doesn't use the string for anything
other than eye candy.

The Beatles
Beatles
THE BEATLES
the beatles

will all be recognized as the same artist, as most people would want. 
The string that gets stored for sorting and searching purposes is
simply "BEATLES".  All caps, and assuming you're using the default of
removing leading common articles, with "The" removed.  If you were to
use all four of those variations on the artist name in your tags, it
would be a crap shoot as to which will end up being the displayed
string.  I believe it's currently "last one in", meaning that the
display string is whatever the artist tag is set to in the track that
SlimServer happens to scan last.

If you're seeing "smashing pumpkins" displayed, it's a pretty good bet
(I'd say near 100% certain) that you've tagged at least one track with
that exact string, including that particular capitalization.


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[slim] Re: Player does not play tracks in order

2006-05-25 Thread ceejay

OK, I don't use godfather myself but I know others do.  As for that
annoying behaviour of mp3tag - its very easy to fix: it remembers the
last directory you were looking at when it next starts up, so all you
have to do is point it at a single CD directory, say, before you close
it down.  I rarely use it for the whole music library at a time
anyway.

Two things to try:

1 - use a different browse method, in case there is something odd
happening with browse by artwork.  Browse by album instead and see what
happens. You should be able to browse to the album, select "play", and
get all the tracks loaded up in the right order.

2 - check that you don't have both ID3v1 and ID3v2 tags in your file -
slimserver really doesn't like this. I don't know how you do this in
The godfather, but in mp3tag you:
- from the menu, View - Customise columns
- click the star button in the middle of the dialog box to add a "new
configuration"
- Enter "Tags" in the Name box and "%_tag%" in the Value box
- OK

If it says "ID3v1 ID3v2" for the files in question then you have two
(possibly conflicting) sets of tags.  In the tools - Options dialog you
will find an option to delete one of them.

HTH

Ceejay


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