Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:19, Mof wrote: /var/log/messages somefilename.txt Then close the lid. and see if it gives you any useful info. I tried this but there is nothing showing up in /var/log/messages. Mof. What this indicates is that ACPI is doing what it thinks it's supposed to do and the results aren't right. Honestly without the box (or a box that does do ACPI) in front of me I'm pretty much fresh out of ideas on this one. Yeah thats cool. Im happy to live without suspend. Mof. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:23 am, Mof wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:43, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 2:37 pm, Jack Coates wrote: With the extra information of not attempting resume allowing it to boot, I'll wager that your swap contains a corrupted system image and is unusable as swap. free will show you no swap available. swapoff, format /dev/hda5, swapon. If you are right about swap containing a corrupted imate, what can he do about it? swapoff /dev/hdaX mkdswap /dev/hdaX (your swap partition) swapon /dev/hdaX Then create a second swap partion about 10-20% larger than ram and use it for suspend not the normal swap. I looked at free, and all the swap was free, but I formated it anyway to make sure. (I did format both swap partitions to be sure as well) It still hangs when the lid is closed. Did you make the second swap, as James suggested? Yes, I now have 2 swap partitions. /dev/hda5 which is 768M /dev/hda7 which is 1G /dev/hda5 is my real swap partition. Mof. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:32 am, Mofeed Shahin wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:23 am, Mof wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:43, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 2:37 pm, Jack Coates wrote: With the extra information of not attempting resume allowing it to boot, I'll wager that your swap contains a corrupted system image and is unusable as swap. free will show you no swap available. swapoff, format /dev/hda5, swapon. If you are right about swap containing a corrupted imate, what can he do about it? swapoff /dev/hdaX mkdswap /dev/hdaX (your swap partition) swapon /dev/hdaX Then create a second swap partion about 10-20% larger than ram and use it for suspend not the normal swap. I looked at free, and all the swap was free, but I formated it anyway to make sure. (I did format both swap partitions to be sure as well) It still hangs when the lid is closed. Did you make the second swap, as James suggested? Yes, I now have 2 swap partitions. /dev/hda5 which is 768M /dev/hda7 which is 1G /dev/hda5 is my real swap partition. OK. Now have you checked that the suspend is now trying for hda7? And (sorry if this is insulting, it's not meant to be, but we all forget the obvious sometimes) there is a mount statement for hda7 in fstab and it's currently mounted? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.2 and Gramofile
Am Dienstag, 11. November 2003 08:20 schrieb Rob Blomquist: On Monday 10 November 2003 2:11 am, thorsten ackermann wrote: Am Sonntag, 9. November 2003 23:09 schrieb Rob Blomquist: On Sunday 09 November 2003 2:04 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote: Hi, my gramofile works fine with 9.2 but i have to install x-mixer that comes with multimedia-2.1-21mdk rpm and i have to stop arts before i work with gramofile and also check the settings on x-mixer i.e. igain pcm I can't find multimedia-2.1-21mdk.rpm at all. Urpmi does not have it listed for 9.2 or any of the normal urpmi sites. I also tried www.rpmfind.net, and they don't list one for mandrake, but I was able to find a tarball called multimedia. Sorry Rob, it was not an mdk-rpm but a redhat386 one on fr2.rpmfind.net CU Thorsten Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 1:30 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 04:23 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: As I was sitting here staring at tail -f /var/log/syslog I saw my chkrootkit anacronjob fly by. At the end of the check, I noticed an email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] An outtake from my syslog post chkrootkit: The message is being sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will fail and go to nobody. What is actually sending this message and where do I find the config file so I can correct it to send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Set your hostname appropriately and all messages sent to root should be delivered to the right person. You may also create an alias in Postfix assuming that you have no reason to actually send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it postfix itself? In order to avoid having the mandrake list bounce all my mails back at me, I had to setup my local postfix to set myorigin = yahoo.com. If I set it to be my actual localdomain (ravenhome.net) I will lose the ability to post to the expert list. Is this [EMAIL PROTECTED] originating from postfix via this myorigin setting? Well, you could do as I do and set up an alternate transport in Kmail to send to the list using your ISP SMTP server rather than trying to bounce messages through Postfix which the Mandrake mailing list appears to dislike, and then send all other messages through Postfix. I figure it has something to do with references to internal networks in the Received headers. If you set MAIL_WARN=yes MAIL_USER=emailaddy in /etc/security/msec/security.conf then the results of chkrootkit will be amalgamated into the daily security emails msec will start sending you. The security mails will also include lists of :- config files altered, world writable files, ports opened/closesd/authentication violations, and firewall hits. If you are not running Postfix or some other MTA, then ssmtp is a simple smtp agent which could deliver the mails for you. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
Hi, Just installed Mandrake Linux PPC 9.1 on what I belive is called a BlueWhite G3 (actually, it appears greenish). When I reach the First Stage Mandrake Linux PPC Bootstrap and press 'l', the kernel starts its initialisation, but does not find the IDE-disk - the output contains the line - hda: driver not present It ends up with a Kernel panic: No init found.-message. This, I *guess*, is the result of the kernel not being able to find the root file system. What does this really mean? - I can boot from within OpenFirmware from the first Mandrake CD, select e.g. the rescue kernel, go out into the console and manually mount hda3 (root / file-system) and hda5 (home file-system) under /mnt or something. The file systems are present - IDE-access is available from the kernel on the cd. Looking at the output from dmesg kind of indicates that the two IDE-devices are recognized - the CD/DVD and the 6Gb IDE disk. Both pdisk --list and lspart to the best of my knowledge indicates a reasonable partition-table - Apple_partition_map on 1, a 1 Mb partition Apple_Bootstrap on 2 - followed by the root, swap and home partitions on 3, 4 and 5. All in all there are five partions on my /dev/hda. - I do not know what to look at. As far as I can interpret, an IDE-driver is present. Is my partitioning wrong? Any yaboot parameters I should inspect or reset? What do I do to make the machine boot? Regards, Morten Sabroe Mortensen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: /dev/hda7 which is 1G /dev/hda5 is my real swap partition. OK. Now have you checked that the suspend is now trying for hda7? And (sorry if this is insulting, it's not meant to be, but we all forget the obvious sometimes) there is a mount statement for hda7 in fstab and it's currently mounted? I'm not so sure this is the problem. When I was using swsusp, I was using my live swap partiton, with no ill effects to suspend or swap. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: Hi, Just installed Mandrake Linux PPC 9.1 on what I belive is called a BlueWhite G3 (actually, it appears greenish). When I reach the First Stage Mandrake Linux PPC Bootstrap and press 'l', the kernel starts its initialisation, but does not find the IDE-disk - the output contains the line - hda: driver not present It ends up with a Kernel panic: No init found.-message. This, I *guess*, is the result of the kernel not being able to find the root file system. What does this really mean? There have been issues on selected machines with IDE. The ide drivers changed quite significantly in the kernel.org kernel, and don't seem to work on some Apple machine in the final released version, whereas they do seem to work in the version the installer uses. Changing to the BenH kernel will probably resolve your issue. Boot rescue, go to the console, mount your / on /mnt mount /dev/hdaX /mnt (x=number of your /) chroot /mnt mount /proc /proc -t proc place your 1st CD in the drive mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom (a guess, yours may not be hdc) urpmi kernel-benh (this should grab the rpm from the CD and install it) if the above fails, then: rpm -ivh /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-benhTAB cat /etc/yaboot.conf (verify a new entry in /etc/yaboot.conf) umount /mnt/cdrom umount /proc exit (exit chroot) umount /mnt (don't fret if this fails) sync; sync reboot select the benh kernel from the kernel selections after l If this works, edit /etc/yaboot.conf and change the default to the benh kernel. Then run ybin (as root) -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 06:54 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Well, you could do as I do and set up an alternate transport in Kmail to send to the list using your ISP SMTP server rather than trying to bounce messages through Postfix which the Mandrake mailing list appears to dislike, and then send all other messages through Postfix. I figure it has something to do with references to internal networks in the Received headers. If you set MAIL_WARN=yes MAIL_USER=emailaddy in /etc/security/msec/security.conf then the results of chkrootkit will be amalgamated into the daily security emails msec will start sending you. The security mails will also include lists of :- config files altered, world writable files, ports opened/closesd/authentication violations, and firewall hits. He is running Postfix, the problem is that the Mandrake Mailing list does not like messages that are bounced through local mail servers for some reason. It rejects mine the same as his even though I use a smarthost to relay my messages so that they pass through my ISP mail servers. For some reason, Mandrake mailing list doesn't accept those. My only solution was to pass the mails directly through the ISP mail server for only the Mandrake mailing list and use Postfix for all my other mail which works fine. If I had to guess, I would guess that the mailing list is setup with some pretty rabid anti-spam rules of some kind, but that would be just a guess. My solution to this problem was to cut out the local MX from my chain of headers and it appears that PA's solution was to masquerade as a regular MX host to get past that limitation and his current dilemma is a side-effect of that solution. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: Hi, Just installed Mandrake Linux PPC 9.1 on what I belive is called a BlueWhite G3 (actually, it appears greenish). Wow, /me needs more coffee. I just realized what list this is on. You would be better off moving this discussion to cooker-ppc. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
Hi Stew B. all, Move to cooker-ppc? Because the cooker-version tries to repair this or what? There is not much cooker over the 9.1 version, is there? Anyway, your very specific and detailed answer looks like a reeal nice, solid answer to me - a fast reply too - just what I hoped for - am trying it out to see, if I can make it work here by me... Why move; you have the appearance of an expert. :-) Regards, Morten Sabroe Mortesen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stew Benedict Sent: 12. november 2003 14:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3 On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: Hi, Just installed Mandrake Linux PPC 9.1 on what I belive is called a BlueWhite G3 (actually, it appears greenish). Wow, /me needs more coffee. I just realized what list this is on. You would be better off moving this discussion to cooker-ppc. -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Second X with different xf86config.
Hi. I'm trying to run a second X session ( :1 ) with a different configuration and resolution from the first one. As TFM says, in order to do it i have to use a second XF86Config file and call xinit like, assuming my second config file is called '/etc/X11/secondconfig' : xinit [command] -- -xf86config secondconfig :1 right? no. here's the problem: the second session (in vt8) starts up fine, but the xterm that is supposed to include gets launched in the FIRST display! So, the new X session only gives me a solid blue screen and the mouse cursor. No xterm, nothing to do. If i close the xterm that was started in display :0 then the display :1 quits as expected. I have noticed that this does not happen if i don't try to specify a different XF86Config file. But, well, i need to. And i don't want to go around changing XF86Config files back and forth as that would require me to type the root password over and over. has anyone tried to do this before? Thanks. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Second X with different xf86config.
Maybe you should try to describe a second screen and server layout in existing XF86Cingig-4? ... Section Screen Identifier screen2 Device device1#your video card stays like in screen1 Monitor monitor1 #and so does your monitor ... EndSection ... Section ServerLayout Identifier layout2 Screen screen2 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer EndSection ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound and fonts in 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I received my powerpak CDs yesterday and installed 9.2 last evening. Problems. I naturally ran into the disappearing icon problem but quickly fixed that by installing a previously downloaded kdeartwork-gorilla rpm which produced MOST icons so that things looked reasonable and were easier to navigate. I fixed this fully by installing the updates. Problems that remain: sound. In 9.1 sound was perfect. I have an oldish IBM Thinkpad 1412 with an essolo1 sound device in it. In 9.2 it detected it just fine but sound doesn't work without unacceptable gymnastics every time I start up. What I get by default is white noise static coming from my speakers (mixer settings were correct, not zeroed out). Nothing I do will bring sound. I even tried the alternative driver (esssolo1 instead of snd-es1968 or whatever it was). No good. What finally worked was to login as root, killall artsd, run alsaconf, and then restart artsd. After this, sound works...but only for the current session. If I restart the computer I lose sound again. This is obviously unacceptable. I have seen other posts wrt sound problems and wondered if a true fix has been discovered? There also appears to be a bit of a font bug wrt kmail. First time I started kmail up after the install (over 9.1, leaving my home dir and all its conf files intact) I found the default font used to be Beast Wars. When I opened up the configure pages to change the fonts, the highlighted/selected font was correct: luxi sans. Nevertheless, what was showing was Beast Wars. The only way to get luxi sans up and working was to highlight any other font for a moment and then go back to luxi sans. Do an apply and fonts were correct. Beast Wars? EVERYONE knows Beast Wars aren't ever used by anybody for anything. It's a junk font. I mean, c'mon! In any case, has anyone else run into this? Final question. I will likely need to rebuild my kernel to get grsecurity activated AND to build a patched orinoco wlan driver (to allow for monitor mode). Does the most recent tmb kernels include proper, already patched orinoco drivers? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/sjvZaKr9sJYeTxgRAq6AAJ0dWVf77SQHQ4duDTQpf01PwrzPRgCfXh1U q734Apm1SwUX7U9oOGk5xxk= =lPpQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: Hi Stew B. all, Move to cooker-ppc? Because the cooker-version tries to repair this or what? There is not much cooker over the 9.1 version, is there? ccoker-ppc is a bit of a misnomer. It's a general purpose Mandrake on PowerPC list, both for the development and released versions. I just suggested moving so we don't annoy the x86 folks with Apple noise :) -- Stew Benedict Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:49:26 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It rejects mine the same as his even though I use a smarthost to relay my messages so that they pass through my ISP mail servers. For some reason, Mandrake mailing list doesn't accept those. My only solution was to pass the mails directly through the ISP mail server for only the Mandrake mailing list and use Postfix for all my other mail which works fine. If I had to guess, I would guess that the mailing list is setup with some pretty rabid anti-spam rules of some kind, but that would be just a guess. Not very rabid at all... looking at your first header: Received: from user-11fa01q.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.0.58] helo=Neo.matrix) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJuR7-0003SW-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:49:29 -0800 neo.matrix is not a valid [host.]domain which would cause the most basic of failures to deliver to Mdk's servers... you could not deliver mail directly to mine either as postfix rules (and a few blacklisted servers) are my sole anti-spam measures. If you have a permanent IP, setting myhostname to user-11fa01q.dsl.mindspring.com would be a quick, self-admin'ed, hack to verify this is the problem. Your mailhost is either not responding or port 25 is blocked, so I can't check that it's the source of neo.matrix... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enabling a Laptop Touch Pad
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:03:07 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I loaded 9.0 onto my Dell Inspiron 3200, I did not connect the mouse, and the touch pad was working perfectly. Now that I have plugged in a mouse to the system, the mouse works fine, but the touch pad is a crazy clicking monster if the mouse is not plugged in, and I would like to use this laptop on the bus to work and so on, so the touch pad is a must. Now, is it possible to use either interchangeably? But the bottom line is getting the touch pad to work. How do I do that? What mouse setting do I need in XF86 or Harddrake? I'm supporting a friend with 9.1 on a Dell and the trick is to hit Shift then use the touchpad IIRC. Using the mouse requires hitting Shift again to go back to the touchpad. I may have fogotten the exact sequence; but HTH... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Nom d'utilisateur sous mandrake 9.2
Bonjour. Sous Mandrake 9.2 je ne peux pas creer d'utilisateur dont le login contient un point. La commande adduser s.toto retourne nom d'utilisateur `s.toto' non valide La 8.2 l'acceptait. Existe-t-il un moyen de le rendre possible ? merci. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Second X with different xf86config.
And how hould i call that from the command line? Anyway, thanks, i've already found a solution: xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -display :1 -- -xf86config XF86Config-4- :1 the problem was that i was missing the -display :1 for the xterm, which meant xterm was reading the $DISPLAY variable, and thus showing up in :0. Solved now. :oP Damian El mié, 12-11-2003 a las 10:43, Artemio escribió: Maybe you should try to describe a second screen and server layout in existing XF86Cingig-4? ... Section Screen Identifier screen2 Device device1#your video card stays like in screen1 Monitor monitor1 #and so does your monitor ... EndSection ... Section ServerLayout Identifier layout2 Screen screen2 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer EndSection ... __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] firebird / evolution new session
Hey, I just started using evolution and I've found that when I click on a link from my email, it tries to start a new session of mozilla. When this happens, mozilla complains about having a session already open. How do I make it look to see if an instance is already open? I imagine that this is probably more to do with how mozilla gets called to begin with, so; I used gnome control center to change the default handler to mozillafirebird %s -- I thought the %s was what was supposed to take care of my problem? tia -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 36. It is only a minor upgrade, the system should be back up in a few hours. ( This is said on a monday afternoon.) --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? 2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and a workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one having gotten burned before with the purchase of their special Definitive Manual - which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and invoice do not contain any product ID. [Q] Having paid something ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to register and get support for the whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?, so I can get to the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I totally off? 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a half ago). [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues by researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit higher than figure it out yourself expectation, from a commercial product. I apologize for your time spent reading this, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 08:56 am, Pierre Fortin wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:49:26 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It rejects mine the same as his even though I use a smarthost to relay my messages so that they pass through my ISP mail servers. For some reason, Mandrake mailing list doesn't accept those. My only solution was to pass the mails directly through the ISP mail server for only the Mandrake mailing list and use Postfix for all my other mail which works fine. If I had to guess, I would guess that the mailing list is setup with some pretty rabid anti-spam rules of some kind, but that would be just a guess. Not very rabid at all... looking at your first header: Received: from user-11fa01q.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.245.0.58] helo=Neo.matrix) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJuR7-0003SW-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:49:29 -0800 neo.matrix is not a valid [host.]domain which would cause the most basic of failures to deliver to Mdk's servers... you could not deliver mail directly to mine either as postfix rules (and a few blacklisted servers) are my sole anti-spam measures. If you have a permanent IP, setting myhostname to user-11fa01q.dsl.mindspring.com would be a quick, self-admin'ed, hack to verify this is the problem. This is obviously not a problem since you actually saw the message, right? If it were a problem, you would not have seen the message because Mdk would have refused to accept it right? If you want to try to troubleshoot the problem that I spoke of, you would need to see an email that I sent to you through my Postfix server and smart relayed through Earthlink to try to figure out what is causing the message to be blocked. The message you quoted was sent directly through Earthlink's mail server from my mail client. The machine name is obviously not valid, most dial-up and dynamic DSL customers don't own their own domain so they will not be using a FQH for their machine name. If Mdk was blocking every user that didn't operate their own MX, the mailing list would be pretty empty. Your mailhost is either not responding or port 25 is blocked, so I can't check that it's the source of neo.matrix... I am running a firewall and do NOT have port 25 open since I do not operate a public MX and outgoing port 25 is blocked by the ISP directly. No point allowing someone to connect to my mail server when I don't run an MX and can't originate mail anyway. So, in the header that you mention, the helo is ignored (obviously) since it is trivial to forge and relying on it would be pretty dumb. However, the IP address is a local range assigned to Earthlink and that is why the mail server at heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net accepts the mail (that and the fact that I authenticated with smtpauth when I sent it) and routes it to Mandrake which accepts it because it comes from Earthlink MX which is an authorized mail origination point with a valid MX record. When I smarthost relay through Earthlink, the same thing happens, the only difference is that there is an additional chain of headers showing the local Postfix server as the origination point. Received: by neo.matrix (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9BB48DD5; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:45:08 -0500 (EST) which sits at the end of the chain but for some reason, Mandrake sees that additional line and rejects the message and doesn't deliver it. It doesn't bounce the message as invalid, it just drops it into the bit bucket without comment. Again, I don't know why since I don't get a bounce on it, it is impossible for me to know what settings they are using but whatever it is, it is more aggressive than most other mail servers because messages that I send to other people at other ISP's going through my local Postfix server and smarthost relayed to Earthlink get delivered, but Mdk mailing list ones don't. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] firebird / evolution new session
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:36, Michael Holt wrote:
Hey,
I just started using evolution and I've found that when I click on a
link from my email, it tries to start a new session of mozilla. When
this happens, mozilla complains about having a session already open.
How do I make it look to see if an instance is already open? I imagine
that this is probably more to do with how mozilla gets called to begin
with, so; I used gnome control center to change the default handler to
mozillafirebird %s -- I thought the %s was what was supposed to take
care of my problem?
tia
use this attached script as your default browser instead -- it opens new
tabs if there's already a browser open, or opens a new browser if
necessary. Set up for Mozilla now, but making it work with Firebird or
whatever would be fairly simple from the examples. Thanks to Ciff Wells,
who wrote it.
--
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...
#! /usr/bin/env python
#
# Program: mozy
# Author: Cliff Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Version: 0.4
#
# Does what gnome-moz-remote ought to: if a browser window is open,
# opens url in a new tab. If no browser is open, opens one.
#
# Usage: mozy [--browser browser] [--url] url
#mozy --help
# Examples: mozy http://www.google.com;
# mozy --browser opera http://www.google.com;
# mozy --browser mozilla --url http://www.google.com;
# Note that the first argument that doesn't start with -- terminates
# further processing of arguments.
#
# Bugs:
# - Konqueror doesn't support remote commands or tabbed browsing, aka NOTABUG.
#
# == user configuration ===
# General options
browser = 'mozilla' # one of mozilla, opera, konqueror
# Opera options
usejava = 1 # enable Java
java = 'java' # Java binary name
forceSDIMode = 1 # make it more like Mozilla's tabbed browsing
# = end user configuration
import sys, os
usejava = usejava and os.system(which %s /dev/null % java) == 0
browserOptions = {
'mozilla': '-remote openURL(%s, new-tab)',
'opera': '-remote openURL(%%s, new-page) %s' % ['', '-windowmode
sdi'][forceSDIMode],
'konqueror': '--profile webbrowsing %s', # no remote commands? no tabbed
browsing? pfft.
}
# -
def getopts(argv):
returns arguments as dictionary {'arg': [arglist]}
validOpts = { # { 'opt': argument count }
'browser': 1,
'help':0,
'url': 1,
}
suppliedOpts = {}
nextIsArg = 0
for arg in argv[1:]:
if nextIsArg:
suppliedOpts[opt].append(arg)
nextIsArg -= 1
else:
if arg[:2] == '--':
opt = arg[2:]
if opt in validOpts:
suppliedOpts[opt] = []
nextIsArg = validOpts[opt]
else:
suppliedOpts['help'] = [] # force a help message
else:
suppliedOpts['url'] = [arg]
break
return suppliedOpts
# -
def help():
print \nUsage: mozy [--browser mozilla|opera|konqueror] [--url] url
printmozy --help\n\n
# =
options = getopts(sys.argv)
if 'help' in options:
help()
raise SystemExit
if 'browser' in options:
if options['browser'][0] in browserOptions:
browser = options['browser'][0]
if 'url' in options:
url = options['url'][0]
else:
url = 'about:blank'
if browser == 'opera' and usejava:
os.putenv(OPERA_FORCE_JAVA_ENABLED, '1')
# print Java%senabled % (' not ', ' ')[usejava]
if os.fork():
raise SystemExit
else:
if os.system('%s %s' % (browser, browserOptions[browser] % url)):
os.system('%s %s' % (browser, url))
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RE: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
I have tried suse 9. I liked it. I did not like the install that you have to load all of the drivers before you begin. I hate MDK 9.1 have had a lot of problems with a hp dl360 server. the box just locks up. I tried to install 9.0 on it but for some reason it just sits there and stays at the loading program into memory. 9.1 did load into it but would crash the box sitting idle. Not a good thing. I really think Mandrake should monitor this group and listen to the problems that are going on it might help them release a better program. And yes I can say this since Suse 9.0 and redhat 9.0 installed with out a problem on the same server and did not lock the box up. Sitting Idle. We are in the process of considering rolling out Linux for file print share and also a proxy server. It even has been included in next years budget. I hope it's mandrake, I am waiting to see if they fix the 9.2 issues. I really am hoping 9.2 will be a fix for all of the things lacking in 9.1. I was so disappointed in it. I have used 8.0, 8.1 8.2 and 9.0 all I liked very much. urpmi is great also. -Original Message- From: stefmit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:45 AM To: Mandrake-expert Subject: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? 2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and a workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one having gotten burned before with the purchase of their special Definitive Manual - which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and invoice do not contain any product ID. [Q] Having paid something ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to register and get support for the whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?, so I can get to the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I totally off? 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a half ago). [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues by researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit higher than figure it out yourself expectation, from a commercial product. I apologize for your time spent reading this, Stef Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] viewcvs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James D. Parra wanted us to know: Can anyone direct me to a 'viewcvs' howto or give me a few pointers on how to set this up. Mandrake provides a package named cvsweb. I believe it's in contrib. Set up your main and contrib repositories and then you can urpmi cvsweb. Setting it up isn't too terrible. You just have to point it to the repository and possibly tell apache that you want to allow it to access that cvs directory (you may not have to do that though). - -- Blue skies... Todd Public key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc They dont need to adjust their pricing, they just need to lobby for new laws to protect their flawed business models. Oh wait, they just did that. --Dan Hollis Linux kernel 2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/sl55IBT1264ScBURAhHzAJkBq2G7poun7zKifiT0W1dT444xMACgkHmZ Oca7u1pvUJwWQOZ0KraJuT8= =G2Xw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] firebird / evolution new session
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:03, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:36, Michael Holt wrote: Hey, I just started using evolution and I've found that when I click on a link from my email, it tries to start a new session of mozilla. When this happens, mozilla complains about having a session already open. How do I make it look to see if an instance is already open? I imagine that this is probably more to do with how mozilla gets called to begin with, so; I used gnome control center to change the default handler to mozillafirebird %s -- I thought the %s was what was supposed to take care of my problem? tia use this attached script as your default browser instead -- it opens new tabs if there's already a browser open, or opens a new browser if necessary. Set up for Mozilla now, but making it work with Firebird or whatever would be fairly simple from the examples. Thanks to Ciff Wells, who wrote it. : thanks!!! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == -8. Ignore the errors. It complains too much. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:44 am, stefmit wrote: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? Stef Stef, Here's a copy of a post I made on the google groups a forum. Pehaps it will help. --- I got a 3 cd 9.2 set for $7.99 shipped on ebay, from webberry. He says they were from Oct. 28, as I recall. Anyway, I installed from them, with no problems- I just went to init 3 in 9.1 before installing 9.2, renamed my old ~/.kde folder, and deleted a bunch of other hidden folders like .gnome, .mozilla, and .gaim, and whatever others I thought looked like might cause problems. Then I rebooted from 9.2 cd1, and did a normal expert install with custom partitioning (didn't reformat my /home partition)- everything went perfectly, as I had done many times before with 9.1. I then rebooted to my new 9.2, setup an update mirror in Mandrake Updates, and downloaded/installed all the kde updates, and most of the other ones I needed (on dialup). Then I went and downloaded the 2.4.22.21 multimedia kernel source from a 9.2 contrib mirror, installed, rebooted, and all is running perfect for the last 10 days. Also downloaded a vanilla 2.6.0-test9 kernel, compiled manually from source, and that too works perfectly (I have had a lot of experience on Gentoo and 9.1 with 2.6 kernels). That's been my 9.2 experience so far- I must say, I have no complaints. I did receive the original 2.4.22.10 kernel however, so I guess these cd's must be from the first bittorrent version. Anyhow, I had no problems installing/updating packages or the new kernels, which was no big deal. For the menus problem, try as root: update-menus -v Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Other than reading through the Mandrake website for known bugs, doing a google search, a search of Twiki, and running MandrakeUpdate periodically, I am not sure what else you could do to keep up with bugs and fixes. I just received my 9.2 propack yesterday. Installed fine, screwed up KDE icons (though not menus). I installed it and used my 9.1 partitions without change, just formatting /usr and /. Fixing the KDE icon (and menu?) problem is a matter of doing an update immediately. You can also run update-menus - -v and try to recover/gain proper menus. On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:44 am, stefmit wrote: [...] I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [...] 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones I have only added a couple sites via easy urpmi (plf and contrib in replacment of cdrom 7 at this point). No problems for me. Try a few different mirrors/sources before giving up on it. Perhaps I just got lucky in my choices of these sources. [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it [...] I do think that 9.2 is somewhat of an embarrassment. A new user installing it for the first time is not likely going to get a favorable impression based on the many initial problems. I have yet to fix my sound problems except for the short term, on a login-by-login basis. I too have ordered Suse 9.0 and will install it on my desktop. I have MDK 9.2 on my laptop. I haven't tried Suse for a few years so I am expecting both problems and pleasant suprises. I thought I'd give it a shot before Novell can have a chance to ruin a good thing with Commercial/Enterprise-over-focused nonsense. If not for the problems with 9.2 I wouldn't even have considered Suse. I'll let them play out on their respective systems and let performance, ease-of-configuration/administration, and bug numbers determine my future focus. If I can get sound working properly in 9.2, I THINK that will cover the last of my known problems. - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/smShaKr9sJYeTxgRAv3XAJ93EzL1o8LD7s5IaS4mr4Ne9vh5WACfUi09 qttOSS0KJYWPws0S9qKPAEs= =FUbf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:44, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/ http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org 2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and a workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one having gotten burned before with the purchase of their special Definitive Manual - which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and invoice do not contain any product ID. [Q] Having paid something ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to register and get support for the whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?, so I can get to the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I totally off? I don't think so, but I'm not familiar with the product that you've purchased. I do think that there is a support offering associated with it, but I don't have any experience with it. You should certainly have a Mandrake Club membership as part of the purchase, IIRC. 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a half ago). [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? It's because the mirrors are slammed with the increased load. I've had problems across all of the Mandrake versions I use and have had to establish new sources on all five of my regular-use systems (five? jeeze, I need to get a life :-). One thing that seems to work well is using a mirror in another time zone, say three or four hours east. I guess geeks do their updating at the same times, but I've had good luck by switching to East Coast and European mirrors instead of my usual West Coast mirrors. [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? okay, that's bordering on troll :-) I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues by researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit higher than figure it out yourself expectation, from a commercial product. I was pretty PO'd when I shelled out some $50 or so for RH 5.2 because it came with support, then found out that it shipped with a ton of broken packages and support didn't include getting X to work. The lesson I took from that experience was this: Tech Support is an expensive thing. Good tech support people make a lot of money. If it's not obvious where that money is coming from (high license cost, separate support contract, c), then there probably isn't any real vendor support, but rather access to a community. Since I have access to the community anyway and don't really need silkscreened labels on my install CDs, the only reason to purchase the product is to support the developers and keep more of the product coming. Mandrake Club is the perfect way to do that for
Re: [expert] firebird / evolution new session
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:03, Jack Coates wrote: use this attached script as your default browser instead -- it opens new tabs if there's already a browser open, or opens a new browser if necessary. Set up for Mozilla now, but making it work with Firebird or whatever would be fairly simple from the examples. Thanks to Ciff Wells, who wrote it. Hey Jack, Just an update; script works great! Since I don't use mozilla (I use firebird) I just linked 'mozilla' in my path to MozFbird so I didn't have to mess with the script at all. Thanks again! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 18. where did you say those backup tapes were kept? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here's a relative minor (minor because I am experienced with linux for the most part and know to try a few things before assuming totally broken) quality item: I received the pro pak. 7 CDs. Installing, I get to a point where it asks for me to insert the Contrib CD (cdrom7). Now then, there are no numbers on the CDs to indicate which CD is which (1 and 2 are REASONABLY obvious as they are Installation 1 and 2) and, worse, there is NO CD named Contribs. There IS a CD named Supplementary Apps but no Contribs. Suggestion: in the future, make sure the installation procedure uses names that actually match the names on the CDs. Either change Supplementary Apps to Contrib or (better AND) place numbers on the CDs. I made a guess that Contribs likely meant Supplementary Apps as the other CDs were named Commercial Apps, Sources 1, and Sources 2. I half feared I would get an error message indicating that I was missing a CD (that Supplementary Apps wasn't equivalent to Contribs or cdrom7) and would thus lose some unknown amount of software functionality. Other than that, the installation was flawless, though I would prefer a more direct means of setting my hostname. I don't want to have to configure my network connection, etc, etc, to simply name my host. In the past, following this path has put me down the ugly path of the network wizard which simply screwed up my connections. Fortunately, one doesn't get stuck in the wizard upon selecting OK or Apply when setting the hostname (or zeroconf name). praedor On Wednesday 12 November 2003 11:50 am, Jack Coates wrote: [...] [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? okay, that's bordering on troll :-) [...] - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/smhjaKr9sJYeTxgRAvr2AKCOKZWWr9uL2dpsRAPPRlicLCpSQgCfZX0O wgkfJGZP47Ttnh+VvF2i8HY= =6YWZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 19:11, Bill Mullen wrote: Also worth knowing is that view is equivalent to vi -R (and quite a bit easier to remember) ... gview is the same as gvim -R, also ... That's not nearly as fun though! Want a rush? Logon as root and start randomly opening files with vi :) Seriously though, thanks for the 'view' command. I'll switch to that I think, it seems easier to remember - especially if I can still override with :w! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == -2. `We are shutting xxx down from 8.30 to 10.30 on Thursday to install a new tape drive.' The machine was up at about 2pm sans-tape drive --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:50, Eric Huff wrote: I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. Do you have a printer hooked up to the paralell port? If so check and see if it works. On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Hmmm... I just removed the acpi=ht line from lilo.conf and now all is well. I'm not sure if that disables acpi - I would think so. Anyway, the machine shuts off now. I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 40. The backup procedure works fine, but the restore is tricky! --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 05:58, Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: Hi Stew B. all, Move to cooker-ppc? Because the cooker-version tries to repair this or what? There is not much cooker over the 9.1 version, is there? ccoker-ppc is a bit of a misnomer. It's a general purpose Mandrake on PowerPC list, both for the development and released versions. I just suggested moving so we don't annoy the x86 folks with Apple noise :) I'm not annoyed, if that counts :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 37. The sprinkler system isn't supposed to leak is it? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 00:43, Peter Watson wrote: PS. I missed the most important difference. Kino allows unlimited DV capture, M$ moviemaker appears to allow the same, but the resultant files are somehow crippled so that they appear to other applications to be only 7008 frames long. This severely limits your ability to do any post processing, such as conversion to MPEG 1/2 in order to master a VCD or DVD, I don't know how or why this is done but it is typical of M$ to build in restrictions to otherwise functional software, look at XP Home networking abilities. The overall result is that moviemaker is really only a toy and cannot be cosidered for any attempt to produce serious video output. Regards Pete Cool! Thanks for the very detailed response! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 94. Hey!! The suns don't do this. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Michael Holt wrote: I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Well, yes - but in mdk 9.1 - and it didn't change anything for me. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Presario 2700 ACPI
If your box is like my compaq (Armada M700) then ACPI is build to an interim draft not the final standard. Does APM work for you? I had to drop back to it because like I said no matter what OS ... it doesn't work right. (my batt actually reads 0 no matter what I do, even if I remove events entirely.) James I was using APM before tryng ACPI but i had problems much more havey than the one i was talking about ACPI (The power management seems to be my CURSE !!! :-))) With APM my laptop doesn't shutdown ... it seems to do it, everything shutdown but the Power Led remain ON and to power up the system again i have to plug out AC and BATTERY before. So, i'll try again with APM since the last time i tried it was with an older kernel version. Bye Primero -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:44, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). [Q] - is there a repository of all the known and still unpatched screw-ups, on the MDK web site? And possibly workarounds? 2 places from/for MDK. Like all of the others an errata section is maintained at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3 (this is the English Version.) And now for 9.2 we finally have a bug tracking system for bugs in the release version (and yes it does get read and acted on.) http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com is that URL. 2. I have purchased the Pro-Pack (I think ?!? - it is the one with 9 CDs and a workstation DVD), but without the manuals (of course, as I was the one having gotten burned before with the purchase of their special Definitive Manual - which was a piece of worthless paper, falling apart, also). The package and invoice do not contain any product ID. [Q] Having paid something ($139.95), I was expecting to be able to register and get support for the whatever_time_frame_30_days_?!?, so I can get to the main purpose of my install, i.e. trying new tools and recompiling my stuff. But there is no product ID I could use. Am I wrong assuming that for the commercial package one would expect some support to begin with? I am willing and capable of looking and resolving issues on my own, but I have some (I consider them decent) pre-requisites for things I pay for ... am I totally off? 3. I used to use easy urpmi's web site to build additional sources for packages (eventually replacing even the need for CDs). I have tried a couple of 9.2 ones, from the same http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php I have been using for 9.1, but almost all the variations I have tried had failed one way or another (in the middle of updates, or not being able to contact sites at all, etc.). I am still successful in using the 9.1 ones (with a minor exception - it looks like my favorite French club-internet.fr source site is not working anymore with curl, and I have to use wget ... as of a week and a half ago). [Q] Does anybody know if the 9.2 is still too crude to count on the easy urpmi repositories of source sites? Are those still unstable for this new release? [Overall-Qs] Does this whole 9.2 look really embarrassingly unprofessionally released to any of you? I have tried Suse/Novell 9.0, while awaiting for my 9.2 MDK package, and I was quite impressed with it ... and the only reason of not switching over being their lack of an urpmi-like tool (apt was not enough for what I was trying to do). Are we seeing here a Merecedes vs. Renault difference developing (I used to use both types of cars heavily, while in Europe, and I have this strange feeling about distributions now, the same way) ;)? I sure hope nobody blames the above on my lack of trying to resolve issues by researching myself. It is more of a - perhaps unwarranted - little bit higher than figure it out yourself expectation, from a commercial product. I apologize for your time spent reading this, Stef __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Dell laptop hangs with 9.2 when lid closed. SOLVED!!
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 01:16, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:32 am, Mofeed Shahin wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 12:23 am, Mof wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:47 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 12:43, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 11 Nov 2003 2:37 pm, Jack Coates wrote: With the extra information of not attempting resume allowing it to boot, I'll wager that your swap contains a corrupted system image and is unusable as swap. free will show you no swap available. swapoff, format /dev/hda5, swapon. If you are right about swap containing a corrupted imate, what can he do about it? swapoff /dev/hdaX mkdswap /dev/hdaX (your swap partition) swapon /dev/hdaX Then create a second swap partion about 10-20% larger than ram and use it for suspend not the normal swap. I looked at free, and all the swap was free, but I formated it anyway to make sure. (I did format both swap partitions to be sure as well) It still hangs when the lid is closed. Did you make the second swap, as James suggested? Yes, I now have 2 swap partitions. /dev/hda5 which is 768M /dev/hda7 which is 1G /dev/hda5 is my real swap partition. OK. Now have you checked that the suspend is now trying for hda7? And (sorry if this is insulting, it's not meant to be, but we all forget the obvious sometimes) there is a mount statement for hda7 in fstab and it's currently mounted? Anne hda7 shouldn't get mounted! http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/ is the site. http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/FAQ.html for the FAQ and http://swsusp.sourceforge.net/Software-suspend.html for the howto. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:45, Eric Huff wrote: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ACPI Advanced Configuration and Power Interface APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller errr APIC sorry. Now this is getting freaky. This thread showed up several months ago on newbie (i think) and i swear i wrote exactly what you did above eric Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run on the same wavelength. *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
Bryan Phinney wrote: He is running Postfix, the problem is that the Mandrake Mailing list does not like messages that are bounced through local mail servers for some reason. It rejects mine the same as his even though I use a smarthost to relay my messages so that they pass through my ISP mail servers. For some reason, Mandrake mailing list doesn't accept those. My only solution was to pass the mails directly through the ISP mail server for only the Mandrake mailing list and use Postfix for all my other mail which works fine. If I had to guess, I would guess that the mailing list is setup with some pretty rabid anti-spam rules of some kind, but that would be just a guess. My solution to this problem was to cut out the local MX from my chain of headers and it appears that PA's solution was to masquerade as a regular MX host to get past that limitation and his current dilemma is a side-effect of that solution. You have two different issues at work on this tread. One issue is basically about setting up postfix. What params to use in main.cf, and what params not to use. If you choose a do a hack, just be aware of the consequences. As for the Mandrake mail servers, they are simply setup with the smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_client param. And what the hell does this mean? It means, for one thing, you must have rDNS for the sending mail server's name. See the many postings, made by myself, Pierre, et. al., in the archives about this issue. You are right about one thing. This is a setting that cuts down on spam... drjung -- J. Craig Woods UNIX Network/System Engineer http://www.trismegistus.net/resume.htm Let him that would move the world, first move himself. --Socrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 01:14 pm, J.C. Woods wrote: You have two different issues at work on this tread. One issue is basically about setting up postfix. What params to use in main.cf, and what params not to use. If you choose a do a hack, just be aware of the consequences. Agreed. PA's setup is different from mine, in that I am not attempting to originate mail directly through my own MX, I am always relaying through a real MX that belongs to my ISP. I do not and can not do direct to MX mail on my system as outgoing port 25 is blocked. As for the Mandrake mail servers, they are simply setup with the smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_client param. And what the hell does this mean? It means, for one thing, you must have rDNS for the sending mail server's name. See the many postings, made by myself, Pierre, et. al., in the archives about this issue. You are right about one thing. This is a setting that cuts down on spam... That is not it. Incoming client is Earthlink SMTP server which DOES have rDNS setup and is a registered MX and does have an A record associated with it, etc. The fact that mail that is sent directly through the mail server from a client versus being relayed through the mail server from a local MX should be completely immaterial to the reject_unknown_client param on the mail server. In fact, the helo record is disregarded completely because the client header comes in the initial negotiation which is handed by Earthlink's mail server in both cases, never by Postfix on my end which only ever communicates to Earthlink's mail server and never to the mail server on Mandrake's end. The only difference in those two messages is the addition of one more Received header showing Postfix in the chain when I smart relay through Postfix as opposed to using my client directly to Earthlink's mail server. I can post headers from both types of messages to show that. What I suspect is happening is that Mandrake has some type of filtering system setup and is actively checking for forged Received headers of any type and trashing anything that has a Received header that is not valid. Since my local Postfix server is NOT a real MX, it's Received line appears to be forged because there is not a valid domain to originate there. I suspect that the culprit on the mail server is not the mail server itself, but an actual filtering program that is separate, perhaps a procmail recipe or a mail filter. The reason that I suspect that is that I don't get a bounce message and Postfix, when it rejects a message sends a bounce message back informing you of why. If the reject_unknown_client_param were the culprit, I should be receiving a 553 bounce message when I send. Postfix does not trash invalid messages without a response, it communicates back to the sender so that you can correct your message. I do NOT receive a bounce, my message just never gets posted to the mailing list. Usually, when a message just gets trashed without any response at all, the culprit is almost always some type of body filter that takes over after the message is passed through the MX. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 09:29, Artemio wrote: Michael Holt wrote: I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Well, yes - but in mdk 9.1 - and it didn't change anything for me. How about on 9.2? Like I said, I've been living with this for quite a while now; if it hadn't been for noting that it worked briefly during an upgrade, I probably would have just continued to use it as-is. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #128: Power Company having EMP problems with their reactor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:12, James Sparenberg wrote: Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run on the same wavelength. *grin* James Alright, let's not get carried away now ;) __ -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 18. where did you say those backup tapes were kept? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 3:44 pm, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). Had this one myself - twice. Encountered having done a clean 9.2 install. Resolved by doing a clean 9.1 install and then upgrading to 9.2 I've had no re-occurrence of the problem. (BTW doing a clean 9.2 install also gave me some n/w configuration problems. Mdk still need to work on their n/w installer eh? ;o) ) regards Daryl -- Set the cart before the horse. -- John Heywood Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
Daryl Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 3:44 pm, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). Had this one myself - twice. Encountered having done a clean 9.2 install. Resolved by doing a clean 9.1 install and then upgrading to 9.2 I've had no re-occurrence of the problem. (BTW doing a clean 9.2 install also gave me some n/w configuration problems. Mdk still need to work on their n/w installer eh? ;o) ) regards Daryl easier answer is just running menudrake and just clicking save.. instant fix. worked fine for me. rgds franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] chkrootkit and mailing results to root
Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 01:14 pm, J.C. Woods wrote: As for the Mandrake mail servers, they are simply setup with the smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_client param. And what the hell does this mean? It means, for one thing, you must have rDNS for the sending mail server's name. See the many postings, made by myself, Pierre, et. al., in the archives about this issue. You are right about one thing. This is a setting that cuts down on spam... That is not it. Incoming client is Earthlink SMTP server which DOES have rDNS setup and is a registered MX and does have an A record associated with it, etc. The fact that mail that is sent directly through the mail server from a client versus being relayed through the mail server from a local MX should be completely immaterial to the reject_unknown_client param on the mail server. I was referring to the first poster's setup, and in his case, it did matter that his settings did not meet the basic hostname lookup performed by mandrake's sympa. Granted your case, Bryan, is somewhat unique. In fact, the helo record is disregarded completely because the client header comes in the initial negotiation which is handed by Earthlink's mail server in both cases, never by Postfix on my end which only ever communicates to Earthlink's mail server and never to the mail server on Mandrake's end. The only difference in those two messages is the addition of one more Received header showing Postfix in the chain when I smart relay through Postfix as opposed to using my client directly to Earthlink's mail server. I can post headers from both types of messages to show that. I agree, and I'll take your word for it. And I was aware that Earthlink blocked port 25. Could you do as Pierre has done: set postfix to another port? What I suspect is happening is that Mandrake has some type of filtering system setup and is actively checking for forged Received headers of any type and trashing anything that has a Received header that is not valid. Since my local Postfix server is NOT a real MX, it's Received line appears to be forged because there is not a valid domain to originate there. I suspect that the culprit on the mail server is not the mail server itself, but an actual filtering program that is separate, perhaps a procmail recipe or a mail filter. Good quess. I am not sure what they are doing. I stay away from sympa as much as posible. But you could still setup postfix to run with a hostname that was real, and could pass the hostname lookup, yes? So that mandrake would see a real name in all header lines. The reason that I suspect that is that I don't get a bounce message and Postfix, when it rejects a message sends a bounce message back informing you of why. If the reject_unknown_client_param were the culprit, I should be receiving a 553 bounce message when I send. Postfix does not trash invalid messages without a response, it communicates back to the sender so that you can correct your message. I do NOT receive a bounce, my message just never gets posted to the mailing list. Usually, when a message just gets trashed without any response at all, the culprit is almost always some type of body filter that takes over after the message is passed through the MX. This part of your msg is most interesting to me. Granted, you are right, some msg should be sent back to your maillog/syslog (nice to talk to someone that keeps a vigilant eye on those files). Now, because you do not receive any 553 or any other msg, I would be inclined to infer, as you have done, that this is some function of the mandrake setup *but* it could be something to do with a borked setting on Earthlink's mail server that causes your returns from mandrake to be dropped. I suspect Earthlink to be the culprit. I'll tell you why. When I post response to the mandrake list server, my setup is very simple, compared to what you must do. I run my own mail server with a public interface, named with a real hostname that has a registered FQDN, and this hostname can be both resolved using forward and reverse DNS. Now, as expected, my postings get processed very nicely by smtp.mandrake.com. And, I should add that, because I use my current login on this machine to send mail, I am not a member of the mandrake list under this login name But I am a member under my pop3 mail name. So I communicate with the mandrake mail server before my message is sent my pop3 address, and to the list as a whole. It is a process where I am sent back my message, and I am asked to verify it by responding with a confirmation number. Once I respond to this, I get another response from the mandrake mail server telling me that this post has been sent to list. If all this sounds complicated, here is my point, back to the reasons I suspect your Earthlink mail server. All of the foregoing, about my communications with smtp.mandrake.com, indicate a somewhat
[expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
Hi all, I am working on a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2, fetchmail was working as of this AM just fine, so I don't know if something is wrong with the way I've got Mandrake configured or if something has changed coincidentally with my ISP, but I am seeing behaviour I have never seen before. Below is the output of fetchmail -v, the line at the end is where it hangs and no mail is ever retrieved. No doubt, I have had problems with this ISP in the past, but I don't know how to narrow this down to Mandrake being fuxored somehow(I can't see how that would be, I've tried the default RPM that comes with 9.2, which is fetchmail 6.2.4, and I've tried to build and use the latest, 6.2.5, and I get the same result), or if it's the ISP, or what. My ~/.fetchmailrc has not changed, it is a direct copy of the one I was using with MDK 9.1. Any help greatly appreciated, this is really frustrating me, especially if someone can tell me what that last line might mean. It seems to me that there is a problem with my hostname, perhaps, in that Postfix is seeing me as node1 but fetchmail is seeing me as localhost. When I do a restart of Postfix, I get this error: Starting postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf postmap: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Ah, the fun and frolic of a new install! Thanks! fetchmail: 6.2.5 querying pop2.sympatico.ca(protocol POP3) at Wed 12 Nov 2003 01:44:50 PM EST: poll started fetchmail: POP3+OK InterMail POP3 server ready. fetchmail: POP3 CAPA fetchmail: POP3 +OK Capability list follows fetchmail: POP3 TOP fetchmail: POP3 USER fetchmail: POP3 RESP_CODES fetchmail: POP3 PIPELINING fetchmail: POP3 EXPIRE NEVER fetchmail: POP3 UIDL fetchmail: POP3 IMPLEMENTATION Openwave Email vM.5.01.06.04 201-253-122-130-104 fetchmail: POP3 -20030726 fetchmail: POP3 . fetchmail: POP3 USER xxx fetchmail: POP3 +OK please send PASS command fetchmail: POP3 PASS * fetchmail: POP3 +OK xxx is welcome here fetchmail: POP3 STAT fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 3252 fetchmail: POP3 LAST fetchmail: POP3 -ERR Invalid command; valid commands: CAPA, DELE, LIST, NOOP, RETR, RSET, STAT, TOP, UIDL or QUIT fetchmail: Invalid command; valid commands: CAPA, DELE, LIST, NOOP, RETR, RSET, STAT, TOP, UIDL or QUIT fetchmail: POP3 UIDL fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 messages fetchmail: POP3 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fetchmail: POP3 . 1 message for xxx at pop2.sympatico.ca (3252 octets). fetchmail: POP3 LIST 1 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 3252 fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 3252 octets reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 1 (3252 octets) fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
telnet localhost 25 helo mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rcpt to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] data you'll work harder with a gun in your back for a bowl of rice a day --Dead Kennedys, Holiday in Cambodia . If that gives you errors, you need to fix postfix, and the next step is to post your whole main.cf and anything from /var/log/mail/errors Jack On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:48, HaywireMac wrote: Hi all, ... that there is a problem with my hostname, perhaps, in that Postfix is seeing me as node1 but fetchmail is seeing me as localhost. When I do a restart of Postfix, I get this error: Starting postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf postmap: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Ah, the fun and frolic of a new install! Thanks! ... reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 1 (3252 octets) fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:48 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Starting postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf postmap: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Haywire, can you open up a CLI and su to root and then issue the command /etc/init.d/posftix status and tell us what it says. If it says something like, postfix is dead but the subsys is locked, then we will know that Postfix is actually dying when you try to start it and that would explain why Fetchmail is unable to inject mail into the localhost. I don't think the problem is your hostname because localhost should always be valid regardless of what your hostname or even mail server name is. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:05, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Suggestion: in the future, make sure the installation procedure uses names that actually match the names on the CDs. Question: did you file a bug about this? ;-) I don't know if the developers read this list. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] ADSL Itex driver for Mandrake 9.0?
I don't know weather this is a newbie or expert question, so I send it to both lists. I have installed Mandrake 9.0 in a partition of my PC. Everything went OK, but not for my ADSL Itex PCI card: Mandrake didn't recongnize it and I have a Linux PC which cannot connect to the Internet. I have searched the Web, found some drivers but none worked; the last is a itex1577-2.4.16.o driver; I installed it, but when I try to activate it with the insmod commad, the computer crashes, even the mouse is frozen and I have to restart. Maybe it is a problem of kernel; this driver is for kernel 2.4.16, while Mandrake 9.0 has 2.4.19. Does anyone know a working driver for this unfortunate ADSL card? Obviously I mean a driver which works with Mandrake 9.0 and kernel 2.4.19. Regards Paolo Bonavoglia --- Teacher of mathematics and computer science Liceo Foscarini [Foscarini High School] - Venice, Italy Webmaster http://www.liceofoscarini.it/ E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] postfix headers
Hey all, Sorry for the long post, but I'm confused here. I've been using squirrelmail for several months now, but I wanted to switch to a local mail client. Squirrelmail really is local because my postfix email server is behind the firewall along with my host machines. I want to use the webmail when I'm outside the firewall and Evolution/Pine/Outlook/whatever when I'm inside. Anyway, I've gotten a couple of returned emails since I've started using evolution saying that the destination server refused the email. I don't have any way of testing their systems to see why it's being rejected so I just tried sending a couple messages to an external test account on yahoo and then comparing the headers. The following are two sets of headers; the first is from squirrelmail where I was logged on remotely to webmail but from the same side of the firewall. The second is from evolution, also on the same side of the firewall. ** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.72; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject:another test From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Length: 4 *** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.80; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta156.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 Received: from machinename (unknown [host.internal.ip]) by servername (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606E205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) Subject:test From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:01:59 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 314 Both messages were written in ascii (html turned off) but I've noticed that they don't have the same type of tags at the bottom. The received lines for both also seem to be quite different. What I need to know is, are these differences enough to keep my email from getting through on some systems? Could someone be considering my email to be potentially dangerous or spam or something of that nature because of these headers? Thanks in advance, -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 97. Go get your backup tape. (You _do_ have a backup tape?) --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
At 01:01 PM 11/12/2003 -0800, you wrote: Hey all, Sorry for the long post, but I'm confused here. I've been using squirrelmail for several months now, but I wanted to switch to a local mail client. Squirrelmail really is local because my postfix email server is behind the firewall along with my host machines. I want to use the webmail when I'm outside the firewall and Evolution/Pine/Outlook/whatever when I'm inside. Anyway, I've gotten a couple of returned emails since I've started using evolution saying that the destination server refused the email. I don't have any way of testing their systems to see why it's being rejected so I just tried sending a couple messages to an external test account on yahoo and then comparing the headers. The following are two sets of headers; the first is from squirrelmail where I was logged on remotely to webmail but from the same side of the firewall. The second is from evolution, also on the same side of the firewall. ** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.72; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject:another test From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal *** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.80; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta156.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 Received: from machinename (unknown [host.internal.ip]) by servername (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606E205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) Subject:test From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:01:59 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both messages were written in ascii (html turned off) but I've noticed that they don't have the same type of tags at the bottom. The received lines for both also seem to be quite different. What I need to know is, are these differences enough to keep my email from getting through on some systems? Could someone be considering my email to be potentially dangerous or spam or something of that nature because of these headers? I dont see anything in your headers that would warrant them being malicious or spam. The only real thing I can see is that when you logged in remotely, its showing the verizon connection that was initiated. There are no other messages regarding why it was blocked? No bounce backs? What version of postfix are you running? Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
[...] Had this one myself - twice. Encountered having done a clean 9.2 install. Resolved by doing a clean 9.1 install and then upgrading to 9.2 I've had no re-occurrence of the problem. (BTW doing a clean 9.2 install also gave me some n/w configuration problems. Mdk still need to work on their n/w installer eh? ;o) ) regards Daryl easier answer is just running menudrake and just clicking save.. instant fix. worked fine for me. rgds franki U, except by this time half of the menu entries had disappeared :o) Didn't feel inclined to add them all under the circumstances. regards Daryl -- That's the true harbinger of spring, not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of a bat on a ball. -- Bill Veeck Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:10, Jason Williams wrote: I dont see anything in your headers that would warrant them being malicious or spam. The only real thing I can see is that when you logged in remotely, its showing the verizon connection that was initiated. Is this a bad thing? This is just saying where I logged in from, no? My router does NAT loopback, so I just log onto my webpage using my domain name and then hit the webmail page and log in. I assumed that this is what is being added here. There are no other messages regarding why it was blocked? No bounce backs? connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service I didn't save any others. It's only been a few, but since I just tried using a different system, everything is suspect. What version of postfix are you running? postfix-1.1.11-4mdk / Mandrake 9.0 Jason -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #194: We only support a 1200 bps connection. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
At 01:25 PM 11/12/2003 -0800, you wrote: I dont see anything in your headers that would warrant them being malicious or spam. The only real thing I can see is that when you logged in remotely, its showing the verizon connection that was initiated. Is this a bad thing? This is just saying where I logged in from, no? My router does NAT loopback, so I just log onto my webpage using my domain name and then hit the webmail page and log in. I assumed that this is what is being added here. Nope. It's just part of the normal email tracking process. Just adds it all into the headers, tracking the path it took. It should be no problem at all. There are no other messages regarding why it was blocked? No bounce backs? connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service Not sure what server this is, but this is a quick test I did running from one of my boxes: $ telnet 65.246.197.34 25 Trying 65.246.197.34... Connected to 65.246.197.34. Escape character is '^]'. 521 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com access denied Connection closed by foreign host. It's not your setup. Its the remote mail server. Looks like SMTP is not running on this server at the moment. I didn't save any others. It's only been a few, but since I just tried using a different system, everything is suspect. No worries. This particular system is doing something on its end. What version of postfix are you running? postfix-1.1.11-4mdk / Mandrake 9.0 You may want to consider upgrading to a new version of Postfix. There have been quite a few enhancements as well as security features that have changed since this release. A quick note: If you do upgrade, note that the way rules are applied (UCE specifically) into Postifx 2.x are slightly different than 1.x. Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jason Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:48 pm, HaywireMac wrote: SNIP Starting postfix: postalias: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf postmap: warning: My hostname node1 is not a fully qualified name - set myhostname or mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf Ah, the fun and frolic of a new install! SNIP As it says, you have not defined a domain name. Postfix will not work unless it knows the local domain name. By default it picks it up from the Hostname. Define a hostname.domainname either in /ets/sysconfig/network or /etc/postfix/main.cf If this is a fresh install the other simple mistake is to not define an alias for root in /etc/postfix/aliases (run 'newaliases' afterwards) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:37:53 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Haywire, can you open up a CLI and su to root and then issue the command/etc/init.d/posftix status master (pid 2211) is running... and tell us what it says. If it says something like, postfix is dead but the subsys is locked, then we will know that Postfix is actually dying when you try to start it and that would explain why Fetchmail is unable to inject mail into the localhost. Postfix starts OK on boot, and when I issue the command service postfix restart, it does restart, but just gives me those warnings. I don't think the problem is your hostname because localhost should always be valid regardless of what your hostname or even mail server name is Well, that makes sense, because as far as I can tell, everything is as it was with my setup under 9.1. The funny thing is, I have no idea how it knew to name the machine node1, unless it got that from my DHCP server, but I don't think that hands out hostnames (?). Right after install, it booted up with node1, just like it was before, and this was a *clean* install, I mean total wipeout, man. Thanks for replyin', man, maybe it's my ISP, I'm even having trouble loading web pages, even though my router shows me connected, and I can connect to my other box no prob. Well, I wanted a challenge... ;-)-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Enabling a Laptop Touch Pad
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 06:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:03:07 -0800 Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I loaded 9.0 onto my Dell Inspiron 3200, I did not connect the mouse, and the touch pad was working perfectly. Now that I have plugged in a mouse to the system, the mouse works fine, but the touch pad is a crazy clicking monster if the mouse is not plugged in, and I would like to use this laptop on the bus to work and so on, so the touch pad is a must. Now, is it possible to use either interchangeably? But the bottom line is getting the touch pad to work. How do I do that? What mouse setting do I need in XF86 or Harddrake? I'm supporting a friend with 9.1 on a Dell and the trick is to hit Shift then use the touchpad IIRC. Using the mouse requires hitting Shift again to go back to the touchpad. I may have fogotten the exact sequence; but HTH... Other option is /etc/init.d/gpm restart This will cause the mouse drivers etc to be reloaded when switching. A crude hack yes. But it may be needed. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:29 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: As it says, you have not defined a domain name. Postfix will not work unless it knows the local domain name. By default it picks it up from the Hostname. Define a hostname.domainname either in /ets/sysconfig/network or /etc/postfix/main.cf aaah, yes, now that I look, /ets/sysconfig/network shows no hostname at all. IIRC, it was HOSTNAME=node1 ? I never had more than that in 9.1, is there a need to add .localdomain or something now?-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:37, Jason Williams wrote: $ telnet 65.246.197.34 25 Trying 65.246.197.34... Connected to 65.246.197.34. Escape character is '^]'. 521 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com access denied Connection closed by foreign host. Ok, question -- why would a server let you telnet into port 25? I would think that a connection like that would get dropped for sure. You may want to consider upgrading to a new version of Postfix. There have been quite a few enhancements as well as security features that have changed since this release. A quick note: If you do upgrade, note that the way rules are applied (UCE specifically) into Postifx 2.x are slightly different than 1.x. I think I'm going to hold off upgrading pf for just now; time constraints and all. I'm planning on migrating the server to mdk9.2 here soon - just waiting to make sure enough release bugs are squashed :) Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jason Thanks so much for your help! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #266: All of the packets are empty. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mirroring contents of old drive onto new drive
Have a look at http://www.mondorescue.org/ Dj Tom McLaughlin wrote: Hi all, I have an 80 gig xfs formatted drive that I use for data storage. The drive is almost full so I have ordered a new 200 gig drive to replace it. Now I need to figure out how to mirror the contents of the old drive onto the new one. I had thought about mirroring the drives using `dd` but I don't think that's the right way to go since the drives are not the same size. From reading the xfsdump man page it looks like the following should take care of my needs: # xfsdump -J - /old | xfsrestore -J - /new Are there any other arguments that I should add to xfsdump or xfsrestore such as blocksize? Are there any caveats to doing this considering the amount of data to be transfered or to be aware of when using this method? Am I going in the complete wrong direction and should instead be using something else? All help is greatly appreciated. If you can't tell, I'm super paranoid about screwing this up. Thanks! Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 9:55 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:41:29 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: As it says, you have not defined a domain name. Postfix will not work unless it knows the local domain name. By default it picks it up from the Hostname. Define a hostname.domainname either in /ets/sysconfig/network or /etc/postfix/main.cf aaah, yes, now that I look, /ets/sysconfig/network shows no hostname at all. IIRC, it was HOSTNAME=node1 ? I never had more than that in 9.1, is there a need to add .localdomain or something now?-- yes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:16:29 + Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: aaah, yes, now that I look, /ets/sysconfig/network shows no hostname at all. IIRC, it was HOSTNAME=node1 ? I never had more than that in 9.1, is there a need to add .localdomain or something now?-- yes LOL! Ok, so HOSTNAME=node1 is okay, or no? Thanks for the help! -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:07, Michael Holt wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:37, Jason Williams wrote: $ telnet 65.246.197.34 25 Trying 65.246.197.34... Connected to 65.246.197.34. Escape character is '^]'. 521 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com access denied Connection closed by foreign host. Ok, question -- why would a server let you telnet into port 25? I would think that a connection like that would get dropped for sure. Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. You may want to consider upgrading to a new version of Postfix. There have been quite a few enhancements as well as security features that have changed since this release. A quick note: If you do upgrade, note that the way rules are applied (UCE specifically) into Postifx 2.x are slightly different than 1.x. I think I'm going to hold off upgrading pf for just now; time constraints and all. I'm planning on migrating the server to mdk9.2 here soon - just waiting to make sure enough release bugs are squashed :) Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jason Thanks so much for your help! -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:42 pm, HaywireMac wrote: master (pid 2211) is running... Okay, that should be good. Postfix starts OK on boot, and when I issue the command service postfix restart, it does restart, but just gives me those warnings. Warnings aren't errors and IIRC, I was running Postfix on my system for a full month before I added my fake domain name just to get the warning to stop and even now it is still not a FQHN but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone, certainly not Postfix. I am pretty sure that Postfix will run even without a hostname as long as your machine has a name. The funny thing is, I have no idea how it knew to name the machine node1, unless it got that from my DHCP server, but I don't think that hands out hostnames (?). Right after install, it booted up with node1, just like it was before, and this was a *clean* install, I mean total wipeout, man. Could it be the zeroconf stuff in 9.2. If you ran the network setup utility, it might have set a hostname for you with the tmdns stuff. Thanks for replyin', man, maybe it's my ISP, I'm even having trouble loading web pages, even though my router shows me connected, and I can connect to my other box no prob. Well, I wanted a challenge... ;-)-- How about CLI again and run a nmap on localhost. Check to see if it says your SMTP on port 25 is open or filtered. You might have some firewall stuff that is stopping Fetchmail from connecting. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:45 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Postfix starts OK on boot, and when I issue the command service postfix restart, it does restart, but just gives me those warnings. Warnings aren't errors and IIRC, I was running Postfix on my system for a full month before I added my fake domain name just to get the warning to stop and even now it is still not a FQHN but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone, certainly not Postfix. I am pretty sure that Postfix will run even without a hostname as long as your machine has a name. Exactly, and when I run fetchmail on my other box, which is still running 9.1, and has no FQDN or aliases configured or anything, it works perfectly. This is definitely a problem specific to 9.2. Could it be the zeroconf stuff in 9.2. If you ran the network setup utility, it might have set a hostname for you with the tmdns stuff. Is this specific to 9.2? I checked in there, but i cancelled out because I wasn't even sure what Zeroconf is -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Jack Coates wrote: Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. Ok, I'll check it out :) I'm curious though, I'm still unable to get through to that address via evolution, but squirrelmail goes through just fine. Telnet to that address gets access denied. I tried telnetting to my own server port 25 and it didn't get denied - so - yeah, I believe you. I'm still confused about why I can't email through postfix to that specific email address. I tried it from my wife's laptop using win2k and outlook to my test account and the headers looked almost identical to those of evolution. It obviously works because I'm writing to you right now using evolution. Something in their server is rejecting me based on something that is happening differently on evolution -- what the heck would it be? The only thing that I can see that would be different would be the received lines in the headers. Any thoughts? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #309: firewall needs cooling Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:45 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Postfix starts OK on boot, and when I issue the command service postfix restart, it does restart, but just gives me those warnings. Warnings aren't errors and IIRC, I was running Postfix on my system for a full month before I added my fake domain name just to get the warning to stop and even now it is still not a FQHN but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone, certainly not Postfix. I am pretty sure that Postfix will run even without a hostname as long as your machine has a name. Exactly, and when I run fetchmail on my other box, which is still running 9.1, and has no FQDN or aliases configured or anything, it works perfectly. This is definitely a problem specific to 9.2. Could it be the zeroconf stuff in 9.2. If you ran the network setup utility, it might have set a hostname for you with the tmdns stuff. Is this specific to 9.2? I checked in there, but i cancelled out because I wasn't even sure what Zeroconf is I had similar probs with 9..2 that I had with earlier versions.. I had to manually remove postfix (with --nodeps in my case) and reinstall it to get it working properly. I found that although it was running, it wasn't running properly till I did that.. no idea why. (and it was a clean 9,2 install, not an upgrade.) rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 06:07 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Is this specific to 9.2? I checked in there, but i cancelled out because I wasn't even sure what Zeroconf is No, 9.1 had it too but most people who didn't need it disabled zeroconf by setting tmdns to not start on boot. You should be able to check to see if tmdns is running by doing a ps -A. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:16, Michael Holt wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Jack Coates wrote: Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. Ok, I'll check it out :) I'm curious though, I'm still unable to get through to that address via evolution, but squirrelmail goes through just fine. Telnet to that address gets access denied. I tried telnetting to my own server port 25 and it didn't get denied - so - yeah, I believe you. I'm still confused about why I can't email through postfix to that specific email address. I tried it from my wife's laptop using win2k and outlook to my test account and the headers looked almost identical to those of evolution. It obviously works because I'm writing to you right now using evolution. Something in their server is rejecting me based on something that is happening differently on evolution -- what the heck would it be? The only thing that I can see that would be different would be the received lines in the headers. Any thoughts? well, I've only sort of been following this, but if one client gets access denied with telnet to 25 and the other doesn't, then the first is probably tripping a blacklist rule. Does your wife's laptop connect via a VPN (hence via a different network)? -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Public downloadable 9.2 ISO's for non club members
Hi Will there be no public downloadable 9.2 ISO's avialable for non club members? If there will - when? Greatings Jesper Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:40, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:16, Michael Holt wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Jack Coates wrote: Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. Ok, I'll check it out :) I'm curious though, I'm still unable to get through to that address via evolution, but squirrelmail goes through just fine. Telnet to that address gets access denied. I tried telnetting to my own server port 25 and it didn't get denied - so - yeah, I believe you. I'm still confused about why I can't email through postfix to that specific email address. I tried it from my wife's laptop using win2k and outlook to my test account and the headers looked almost identical to those of evolution. It obviously works because I'm writing to you right now using evolution. Something in their server is rejecting me based on something that is happening differently on evolution -- what the heck would it be? The only thing that I can see that would be different would be the received lines in the headers. Any thoughts? well, I've only sort of been following this, but if one client gets access denied with telnet to 25 and the other doesn't, then the first is probably tripping a blacklist rule. Does your wife's laptop connect via a VPN (hence via a different network)? Ok, I think this has gotten confused. My server is hosting web, email, etc. You can logon from anywhere if you have an account, and use webmail. When I log on to the web mail server, which is sitting in my living room - behind the router connected to dsl, I can send email to a particular person. Now I can also specify that same server as an email server and connect to it with client machines, i.e., other boxes; with client mua's, i.e., outlook, evolution, pine, whatever. When I connect with outlook for example, the received line of my email header ends up looking like this: Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) When I use squirrelmail (my webmail server) it looks like this: Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Now, I've changed the ip's and machine name's but you get the idea. This is sent to a test account just to see what the headers end up like. The problem is that when I email my boss (I'm a contractor and my point of contact works for this specific company) I get refused and my email is bounced with this: connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service Received: from myclientmachine (unknown [192.168.0.4]) by myemailserver (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E918200099 This is just a snippet but the rest is just email information. I'm not able to telnet to this person's email server at all, from anywhere. I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #173: Recursive traversal of loopback mount points Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:18, Michael Holt wrote: ... it's not about your message headers ... Now, I've changed the ip's and machine name's but you get the idea. This is sent to a test account just to see what the headers end up like. The problem is that when I email my boss (I'm a contractor and my point of contact works for this specific company) I get refused and my email is bounced with this: connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service Received: from myclientmachine (unknown [192.168.0.4]) by myemailserver (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E918200099 This is just a snippet but the rest is just email information. I'm not able to telnet to this person's email server at all, from anywhere. I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? Their server won't accept connections from anything that I have access too, and I have access to some pretty high traffic (and legit :-) mail servers -- I don't see how they can get mail from any one. They don't even give the chance to AUTH. Since that server is the only MX record listed in their zone, they're self-blackholed. My guess is they're whitelisting, which IMHO is The Beginning Of The End. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Real Player / Firebird 0.6.1 / Mandrake 9.2
I tried that also -- made no difference. Can't remember the link path but in the area of the prefs that you mention above there is a checkbox to force the use of http. Since it works in the browser (this is an http transfer AFAIK) it should then allow the rest to work as well. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:34, Jack Coates wrote: Their server won't accept connections from anything that I have access too, and I have access to some pretty high traffic (and legit :-) mail servers -- I don't see how they can get mail from any one. They don't even give the chance to AUTH. Since that server is the only MX record listed in their zone, they're self-blackholed. My guess is they're whitelisting, which IMHO is The Beginning Of The End. Ok, I don't fully understand the term 'whitelisting', but I assume that it means only specified senders get in? I'm able to send to any account I've ever tried in the past (hotmail, yahoo, my server when using squirrelmail), how could this be setup? I've got to be doing something wrong, I just don't know what. p.s. thanks for doing all the footwork of hitting their servers, I don't even really know where to begin :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == 100. Uh-oh. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
Yeah it looks like they have some issues with mail. There MX record shows qualxserv.com Server: 66.47.48.51 Address:66.47.48.51#53 Non-authoritative answer: qualxserv.com mail exchanger = 5 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com. Authoritative answers can be found from: qualxserv.com nameserver = ns1.qualxserv.com. qualxserv.com nameserver = ns2.qualxserv.com. qualxserv.com nameserver = ns3.qualxserv.com. qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com internet address = 65.246.197.34 ns2.qualxserv.com internet address = 65.246.197.33 ns3.qualxserv.com internet address = 65.246.197.151 trying that ip you get [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ telnet 65.246.197.34 25 Trying 65.246.197.34... Connected to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com (65.246.197.34). Escape character is '^]'. 521 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com access denied Connection closed by foreign host. [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ I cant get there either so looks like you may need to call them up and find out why no one can send them mail. On Star Date Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:34 pm, Jack Coates sent this sub-space message. Their server won't accept connections from anything that I have access too, and I have access to some pretty high traffic (and legit :-) mail servers -- I don't see how they can get mail from any one. They don't even give the chance to AUTH. Since that server is the only MX record listed in their zone, they're self-blackholed. My guess is they're whitelisting, which IMHO is The Beginning Of The End. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:21, Daryl Johnson wrote: U, except by this time half of the menu entries had disappeared :o) Didn't feel inclined to add them all under the circumstances. Did you see the errata page re. the update-menus command? Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? Michael, is it possible that you are using a different From: address when using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting based on the From listed as the sender. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:24 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: No, 9.1 had it too but most people who didn't need it disabled zeroconf by setting tmdns to not start on boot. You should be able to check to see if tmdns is running by doing a ps -A. I did no such thing, had no such problem. Am back in 9.1 now, and am happy as a clam ;-) Got a lot of rebuilding to do, but I learned my lesson, always listen to your instincts. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:28:59 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I had similar probs with 9..2 that I had with earlier versions.. I had to manually remove postfix (with --nodeps in my case) and reinstall it to get it working properly. I found that although it was running, it wasn't running properly till I did that.. no idea why. (and it was a clean 9,2 install, not an upgrade.) and this was in conjunction with fetchmail? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 06:07 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Is this specific to 9.2? I checked in there, but i cancelled out because I wasn't even sure what Zeroconf is You know, one thing that you might want to do, just to firmly identify or eliminate one piece of this is to fully test whether Postfix is operating properly or not. One way to do that is to fire up Kmail or another email client, configure it to send via SMTP straight and then send a mail to yourself, [EMAIL PROTECTED] That should automatically bypass whatever relay is setup and deliver directly to your username account on the local machine. If you get the mail, then it means that Postfix is working. If you do not get it, it means that Postfix is definitely not working and you may need to try to work on it. One other item to try rather than trying to force an uninstall/reinstall of Postfix is to check the startup scripts in /etc/init.d. See if you have postfix.rpmnew files in there because it is possible that a new version needs to have some changes made to correctly start but I think that urpmi defaults to trying to leave the original scripts in place when you install new versions. I know that I have upgraded a couple of apps previously and found myself completely uninstalling and then reinstalling until I finally figured out that newer packages were changing the locations of some of the files and I just needed to alter the startup scripts to reflect the new locations. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:43 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:31:24 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: No, 9.1 had it too but most people who didn't need it disabled zeroconf by setting tmdns to not start on boot. You should be able to check to see if tmdns is running by doing a ps -A. I did no such thing, had no such problem. Am back in 9.1 now, and am happy as a clam ;-) Got a lot of rebuilding to do, but I learned my lesson, always listen to your instincts. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Rats, and here I was hoping that I had a new Guinea Pig to help me troubleshoot stuff before I upgrade my machine. ;-} -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Public downloadable 9.2 ISO's for non club members
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:10 pm, Jesper S. Knudsen wrote: Hi Will there be no public downloadable 9.2 ISO's avialable for non club members? If there will - when? Whichever comes sooner, when people stop hijacking threads on this mailing list or when hell freezes over. Ooops, I'm sorry, was that sarcastic :-) -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: Cyrus-imapd
My users are local users. It should be easy then: pwcheck_method: saslauthd (in smtpd.conf) check that /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd has SASL_AUTHMECH=pam (it's the default) service saslauthd start (to make it permanent chkconfig --add saslauthd) and then configure the pam method to use in /etc/pam.d/smtp Thanks. I tried exactly the above and creating smtp as follows. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# more /etc/pam.d/smtp auth required /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth accountrequired /lib/security/pam_stack.so service=system-auth But still couldn't get it to work (continuous prompt for username/password from OE). I then changed pwcheck_method: sasldb. I can now send/receive mail. However, I still have one more question, sasldb means I need to useradd/passwd to create new users. I also need to add users to cyrus through cyradm. I need to update two user databases separately. Without users created locally, I can't seem to login to the user account and access inbox. Is there a way to simplify this? Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:49, Michael Holt wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:34, Jack Coates wrote: Their server won't accept connections from anything that I have access too, and I have access to some pretty high traffic (and legit :-) mail servers -- I don't see how they can get mail from any one. They don't even give the chance to AUTH. Since that server is the only MX record listed in their zone, they're self-blackholed. My guess is they're whitelisting, which IMHO is The Beginning Of The End. Ok, I don't fully understand the term 'whitelisting', but I assume that it means only specified senders get in? right. I'm able to send to any account I've ever tried in the past (hotmail, yahoo, my server when using squirrelmail), how could this be setup? I've got to be doing something wrong, I just don't know what. your setup is probably fine. Theirs is FUBAR'd. No fault of yours. p.s. thanks for doing all the footwork of hitting their servers, I don't even really know where to begin :) no problem -- this sort of thing is part of what I do for a living these days, and I was really bored at work :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 17:10, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? Michael, is it possible that you are using a different From: address when using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting based on the From listed as the sender. Except they drop connection before he could ever send From.. Maybe they've set a ridiculously low timeout or something, but it doesn't act like any real world mailserver I've ever seen. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Public downloadable 9.2 ISO's for non club members
Whichever comes sooner, when people stop hijacking threads on this mailing list or when hell freezes over. Ooops, I'm sorry, was that sarcastic :-)-- In case you don;t know what hijacking is: check out #3 at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ADSL Itex driver for Mandrake 9.0?
This is just a friendly note about hijacking. See #3 at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette (gee, that was still in my kill ring...) eric On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:57:38 +0100 Paolo Bonavoglia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know weather this is a newbie or expert question, so I send it to both lists. I have installed Mandrake 9.0 in a partition of my PC. Everything went OK, but not for my ADSL Itex PCI card: Mandrake didn't recongnize it and I have a Linux PC which cannot connect to the Internet. I have searched the Web, found some drivers but none worked; the last is a itex1577-2.4.16.o driver; I installed it, but when I try to activate it with the insmod commad, the computer crashes, even the mouse is frozen and I have to restart. Maybe it is a problem of kernel; this driver is for kernel 2.4.16, while Mandrake 9.0 has 2.4.19. Does anyone know a working driver for this unfortunate ADSL card? Obviously I mean a driver which works with Mandrake 9.0 and kernel 2.4.19. Regards Paolo Bonavoglia - -- Teacher of mathematics and computer science Liceo Foscarini [Foscarini High School] - Venice, Italy Webmaster http://www.liceofoscarini.it/ E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. Sympa doesn't always tell us when it /dev/null's a mail. I have an email i have sent over a dozen times, but it just doesn't go thru, and i get no errors eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:51, Eric Huff wrote: Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still floating around in Sympa. Sympa doesn't always tell us when it /dev/null's a mail. I have an email i have sent over a dozen times, but it just doesn't go thru, and i get no errors eric funny thing is, it sent a copy back to me :-) I just assume that no one else got it because two hours later someone else gave a similar answer and continued the thread. You guys will probably get mine in about four days... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [dfox@m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com: hijack cont.]
Somebody scribbled about Re: [expert] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hijack cont.] Now, how do you tell the user? - that is, how do you find out who it is? That's an interesting question. whois IP used to be the way to do this but with spammers, it's anyone's guess. A) the IP could be forged or could be a dynamic one, or B) the contact data can easily be faked for that IP. So maybe the thing to do is just block the IP and not care who it is. Then again, I'm considering hauling people into court over this last debacle or at least contact the FBI/local police - assuming they're in America of course. The spam itself may have *originated* offshore (and did in some cases) but one could easily assume the people who are selling these things are in the US. Phil -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Public downloadable 9.2 ISO's for non club members
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:10 pm, Jesper S. Knudsen wrote: Hi Will there be no public downloadable 9.2 ISO's avialable for non club members? If there will - when? Greatings Jesper Jesper: IIRC, the ISOs will become available to the public when the boxed sets hit the stores. When they are available, there will be an announcement on the Mandrake home page. BTW, you've hijacked a thread. It's frowned upon here. If you are not familiar with the term, you can read more about it in the section on etiquette at http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Drakconnect profiles
Does anybody know what files drakconnect stores its profiles in? I would have expected /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles, but there is only a dir for default. Nothing for the others I have set up. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 17:10, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? Michael, is it possible that you are using a different From: address when using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting based on the From listed as the sender. No - that stuff is all the same. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #371: Incorrectly configured static routes on the corerouters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:26, Jack Coates wrote: Ok, I don't fully understand the term 'whitelisting', but I assume that it means only specified senders get in? right. I'm able to send to any account I've ever tried in the past (hotmail, yahoo, my server when using squirrelmail), how could this be setup? I've got to be doing something wrong, I just don't know what. your setup is probably fine. Theirs is FUBAR'd. No fault of yours. Well, it seems to be the general opinion that I can't really do anything about this situation? It just seems so odd that they would make their servers *that* inaccessible. p.s. thanks for doing all the footwork of hitting their servers, I don't even really know where to begin :) no problem -- this sort of thing is part of what I do for a living these days, and I was really bored at work :-) LOL :) Cool. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #253: We've run out of licenses Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:27, Jack Coates wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 17:10, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? Michael, is it possible that you are using a different From: address when using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting based on the From listed as the sender. Except they drop connection before he could ever send From.. Maybe they've set a ridiculously low timeout or something, but it doesn't act like any real world mailserver I've ever seen. See, that's the thing. I haven't done any playing with cisco routers, but I would imagine that the ios is smart enough to drop anything except an email packet at port 25 and then with all the recent problems with ddos attacks and virii, etc, I would think that they *would* want to seriously filter the headers that come in. But you guys are saying that the headers on my email - no matter which machine I'm sending from - are absolutely normal? Nobody would or could do it differently? Well thanks everyone for all the info -- I've definitely learned some stuff (including that I need to do some studying!:) ) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #321: Scheduled global CPU outage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:43, Eric Huff wrote: On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell port. i can't do both... eric Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? Yeah, i have a choice: acpi=on and then no parallel port, or acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out This is all under 9.1. eric Hmm... I don't pretend to know about kernel stuff, but it seems odd that that would affect your parallel ports. All I can say is, try 9.2 - I don't have any p port stuff, but without acpi in lilo -- off or on -- just removed altogether, my machine shuts down now. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com == SysAdmin excuse #339: manager in the cable duct Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
