Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 13:22, Dick Gevers wrote: > Okay. Is this a poker game? LOL :) Yeah, you're bringing the pizza, right? :) > Running [EMAIL PROTECTED] niced at -5 'Nice' sets the schedule priority - ok, what does that mean? How does that affect your performance both overall and for the specified program? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< Windows is the best $189 solitaire game you can buy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:36, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:18, Michael Holt wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > > Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem > > > > and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've > > > > got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? > > > > > > well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as > > > much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. > > > -- > > > Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... > > > > LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what > > the basis was :) > > If I do a cat on /proc/meminfo > total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: > Mem: 390709248 371380224 193290240 13205504 181313536 > Swap: 1230839808 48295936 1182543872 > MemTotal: 381552 kB > MemFree: 18876 kB > MemShared: 0 kB > Buffers: 12896 kB > Cached: 172232 kB > SwapCached: 4832 kB > Active: 147668 kB > Inactive: 190916 kB > HighTotal: 0 kB > HighFree:0 kB > LowTotal: 381552 kB > LowFree: 18876 kB > SwapTotal: 1201992 kB > SwapFree: 1154828 kB > > And the only thing beyond kde open is evolution. > > James Ok, now I'm seeing what you guys are saying. I did cat /proc/meminfo and got similar results. Then I started vmware+WinXP and this was my output: total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 527233024 522104832 5128192045056 423895040 Swap: 263168000 626688 262541312 MemTotal: 514876 kB MemFree: 5008 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers:44 kB Cached: 413416 kB SwapCached:544 kB Active: 125232 kB Inactive: 24 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 514876 kB LowFree: 5008 kB SwapTotal: 257000 kB SwapFree: 256388 kB Committed_AS: 148076 kB Then I killed vmware and tried again: total:used:free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 527233024 477216768 50016256040960 384438272 Swap: 263168000 626688 262541312 MemTotal: 514876 kB MemFree: 48844 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers:40 kB Cached: 374884 kB SwapCached:544 kB Active: 120796 kB Inactive: 254776 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree:0 kB LowTotal: 514876 kB LowFree: 48844 kB SwapTotal: 257000 kB SwapFree: 256388 kB Committed_AS: 112800 kB I gained some back, but not as much as I originally had free. That's strange, when I looked at it an hour ago, I had barely used any memory and none of my swap. So I must have just not had enough opened this morning? Now I'm going to have to shut down and see what it looks like - maybe I'll run root-tail and keep an eye on it. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< Windows is the best $89 solitaire game you can buy. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] java in my path?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:37, Jack Coates wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:16, Michael Holt wrote: > > Hey, > > I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I > > modify? > > just you: edit ~/.bash_profile > JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01/ > export JAVA_HOME > PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin > > everyone -- edit /etc/profile and add the same. Ahh... thank you Sir! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< Windows NT source code now available... download WIN2000.BAS now! -- From a Slashdot.org post Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] java in my path?
Hey, I need to know where to go to add the java binary to my path - who do I modify? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 92. What software license? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 10:11, Jack Coates wrote: > > Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem > > and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've > > got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? > > well, it's normal for me :-) I've read that the VMM will allocate as > much RAM as feasible and practical to disk caching. > -- > Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... LOL, I didn't mean anything by it, I've heard that too and wondered what the basis was :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 50. [looks at workstation] "Say, what version of Dos is this running?" --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] garbage collection ?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 06:35, Jack Coates wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 01:30, elPunishar wrote: > > hi everybody, > > > > i noticed that my 1 gig of ram is getting filled up real quick, which may be > > okay since i'm running a lot of programs. > > BUT it doesn't come down again even when i close the programs... memory use > > just grows and grows (slow but steady), then beginns to fill up the swap > > space... > > memory at 80% full is normal disk caching, and Windows does it too (they > just don't report it). Growing usage and using swap may not be normal > though. Try running top and pressing M to sort by memory usage, then > watch it. You may have an app leaking memory. > ... > -- > Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Curious, I have 512M ram and 256M swap - top shows I'm using 198M of mem and none of my swap - I've been running my computer all morning and I've got a few apps open. Why would 80% of 1G of memory be normal? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 0. Just add yourself to the password file and make a directory... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to > > uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my > > desktop. > > > > Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the > > 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. > > Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default > > 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. > > No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no > > multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked > > in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. > > > this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed > 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). > > Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto > mute-->mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is > selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... > > eric > Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is "Pcm" as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:54, Jack Coates wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 14:21, Michael Holt wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > > > > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? > > > > > > should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right > > > Way(TM) for things to be. > > > > :) You seemed pretty emphatic about it's presence in earlier posts; > > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? > > the real issue for me is expected versus non-expected behavior. There is > a security risk, which is fairly arcane unless a large class of boxes > are going to exhibit this behavior (no matter how arcane and difficult > the hole, if hundred of boxes will respond in the same way then an > exploit script will be written). Hey, makes sense. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 32. Ummm... Didn't you say you turned it off? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 15:01, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Michael Holt wrote: > > > What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If > > that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the > > filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things > > in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? > > What having ":.:" (or its equivalent, "::") in your $PATH does is allow > the current working directory to be included in any search for executable > files. This is (wisely, IMHO) considered to be a security risk, as it can > lead to the execution of a file other than the one you had intended, if > that file has the same name and the ":.:" appears earlier in the PATH than > the directory in which the intended file resides. > > Obviously, it is *far* more important that such an entry not be part of > root's PATH than a user's, but it's a risk in the latter case as well. Ahh, that makes sense. So it's mostly good housekeeping. Thanks. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 14. dd if=/dev/null of=/vmunix --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 12:53, Jack Coates wrote: > > I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' > > shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? > > should not. It's not that big a deal I suppose, but it's not The Right > Way(TM) for things to be. :) You seemed pretty emphatic about it's presence in earlier posts; What effect does it have? It means you can execute hidden files? If that's the case, couldn't you do that anyway - if you knew what the filename was? I suppose just for policy, you would want as few things in a users path as possible - is that just what it's about? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 0. Just add yourself to the password file and make a directory... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WTF?? $PATH question
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 11:31, Jack Coates wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin/:/home/jack/bin/:/usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver/:/sbin/:/usr/sbin/:/usr/local/sbin/:/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_01//bin > > that looks okay... but . is effectively in my path!! I discovered this > by doing a tab completion line that matched a script in my ~. This is > with msec level 3 > > Maybe related to bash programmable completion? Anyone else seen this > behavior? I don't quite understand what the problem is. Are you saying that '.' shouldn't be in your path or that it should be? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< -6. Ooops, I should really have change directory before doing that chmod -R bin.bin . --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] maps
Anyone know of a good software similar to 'streets and maps'? I tried one a while back where you had to compile the maps and it was pretty rough. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 34. What is all this I here about static charges destroying computers? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Clean up old logs (more specific)
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 08:34, David E. Fox wrote: > > My firewall has been up and running for the last 2 years now. While trying = > > to cleanup the partitions I noticed a wholalotta log files from various stu= > > Please don't post HTML. > > Adrian, isn't logrotate working? Or do you want to clean the stuff up > now? At any rate, find would do the job: > > # find . -type f /var/log -mtime 30 | xargs rm > > That gets rid of files modified over 30 days ago. When I tried doing the line you defined above, I get this output: find: paths must precede expression Usage: find [path...] [expression] rm: too few arguments Try `rm --help' for more information. So I did it this way: find /var/log -type f -mtime 5 | xargs rm And it works. The only thing that catches my attention is that in the 'find' man page, '-mtime' says: -mtime n File's data was last modified n*24 hours ago. This would seem to me to mean a static multiplyer. In other words, '-mtime 30' would be any logs created exactly 30 days ago - not 31, not 29. How would you state 'anything over 30 days'? And why did you create the syntax the way you did above; with the '.' after 'find' and the order of commands? Thanks! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 81. The drive ate the tape but that's OK, I brought my screwdriver. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers (update)
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 10:01, Bill wrote: > That is what my understanding was. you wouyld asign like 5 to your primary > email server and 10 to the backup. Assigning the same number would just make > things a little screwy. Ok, that would make sense. I'm still confused as to why one would let me in and one wouldn't - I think they need to hire a new engineer :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #316: Elves on strike. (Why do they call EMAG Elf Magic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers (update)
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:22, Jack Coates wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:57, Michael Holt wrote: > > ...> > > > if we do a mx record lookup for .com we get qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com. that > > > server is not answering for port 25 stuff. Interestingly enough they have the > > > same number assigned to there email servers which is 10 I thought that was a > > > no no. > > > > > > Man I have been outa the internet systems stuff for two years now and can > > > still do this stuff. Im so far out of the loop now seeing how I just got my > > > trucking drivers license (class a) with all endorsements to look for work in > > > the trucking industry. I gave up on the computer industry. > > > > Hey I just learned something! Could you explain the '10' thing to me? > > MX records have a priority option between 1 and 100. Higher priority > gets first choice of delivery, lower priority is essentially backup. > > > > > I drive a tow truck for AAA during my down-time between jobs. I don't > > have the cdl stuff, but there seems to be plenty of cars running into > > each other to stay busy :) So then having two servers with the same priority level would be either / or? Or would it just hose your servers? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #341: HTTPD Error 666 : SysAdmin was here Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers (update)
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 22:17, Bill wrote: > hmmm kinda weird. Here is the results of some nslookup stuff > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ nslookup qualxserv.net > Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases. > Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with > the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing. > Server: 66.47.48.51 > Address:66.47.48.51#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > *** Can't find qualxserv.net: No answer > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ nslookup qualxserv.com > Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases. > Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with > the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing. > Server: 66.47.48.51 > Address:66.47.48.51#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: qualxserv.com > Address: 65.246.197.37 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ nslookup > Note: nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases. > Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead. Run nslookup with > the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing. > > set type=mx > > qualxserv.net > Server: 66.47.48.51 > Address:66.47.48.51#53 > > Non-authoritative answer: > qualxserv.net mail exchanger = 10 ns1.qualxserv.com. > qualxserv.net mail exchanger = 10 qxssmtp3.qualxserv.com. > > Authoritative answers can be found from: > qualxserv.net nameserver = ns3.qualxserv.net. > qualxserv.net nameserver = ns1.qualxserv.com. > qualxserv.net nameserver = ns2.qualxserv.com. > ns1.qualxserv.com internet address = 65.246.197.32 > ns2.qualxserv.com internet address = 65.246.197.33 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] beau]$ telnet ns1.qualxserv.net 25 > Trying 65.246.197.32... > Connected to ns1.qualxserv.com (65.246.197.32). > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 qxsdns1.qualxserve.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail > Service 5.5.2650.21) ready > > > There is the answer. Previously they were using qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com. as > there mail server for .com now for .net they are using ns1.qualxserv.com and > qxssmtp3.qualxserv.com. so its just a forward to there working .com email > servers. > > if we do a mx record lookup for .com we get qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com. that > server is not answering for port 25 stuff. Interestingly enough they have the > same number assigned to there email servers which is 10 I thought that was a > no no. > > Man I have been outa the internet systems stuff for two years now and can > still do this stuff. Im so far out of the loop now seeing how I just got my > trucking drivers license (class a) with all endorsements to look for work in > the trucking industry. I gave up on the computer industry. Hey I just learned something! Could you explain the '10' thing to me? I drive a tow truck for AAA during my down-time between jobs. I don't have the cdl stuff, but there seems to be plenty of cars running into each other to stay busy :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 49. Oops! (said in a quiet, almost surprised voice) --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers (update)
Well, I just wanted to give an update to the postfix prob. The fix? I just found out that this company just switched their email server from '.com' to '.net'. I don't know what they're doing, cause they still have the '.com' server up and running. It must have been some kind of redirect / relay because I still can't get through if I use the '.com' address from evolution, but I am able to get through if I email to the '.net' address. They definitely have something weird going on but at least I know I'm not _completely_ incompetent. Weird... Anyway, thanks Jack, Bill and Pierre! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #235: The new frame relay network hasn't bedded down the software loop transmitter yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Evolution auto-signatures
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 11:17, Jack Coates wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 11:09, Michael Holt wrote: > ... > > echo "" > > ba-da-boom. thanks! LEAST I could do! :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #413: Cow-tippers tipped a cow onto the server. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 06:16, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Michael Holt wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:00, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > > > > Consider coding it simply: > > > > myhostname = holt-tech.net > > > > Ok, now the question becomes, why am I using my domain name instead of > > my host name where it asks for my host name? > > >From my previous message in this thread: > > ] Bear in mind that the "myhostname =" setting in main.cf doesn't need to > ] bear even the slightest resemblance to what your system actually calls > ] itself; it is the string that is sent whenever Postfix identifies the > ] system on which it is running to other systems (both clients and > ] servers). > ] As such, the value of this setting *will* have an impact on whether or > ] not mail is accepted from you by some servers, as it is sent in the > ] HELO/EHLO statement when Postfix initiates a connection as a client. > > It is not "asking for your hostname" - it is asking you to *set* what > hostname you want it to send to other systems. > > You want to use one that will resolve in at least one direction, which is > why "holt-tech.net" is needed here, and why your ISP-given hostname is > even more preferable (as the latter resolves in *both* directions). > > There is nothing wrong with using the same value for the $myhostname, > $mydomain and $myorigin variables, in case you're wondering. Ahh, that makes sense now -- thank you for clearing that up. I really had no idea that there was so much possible tweaking to make all this work. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #221: The mainframe needs to rest. It's getting old, you know. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Evolution auto-signatures
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 09:31, Jack Coates wrote: > Anyone mess with Evo's script signatures? It's formatting badly, as so: > > -- Jack Coates at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... "As > I went down to Glasgow city, just to see what I might spy, what should I > see but Nancy Whiskey, a playful twinkle in her eye... I bought her a > drink I had another, ran out of money so I did steal, she ran me ragged > lovely Nancy for seven years alone unwell." -- Nancy Whiskey from The > Snake by Shane McGowan and the Popes > > Basically all the newlines are stripped. Same script's output looks like > this on the command line: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ sig.sh > -- > Jack Coates at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... > > "You choose your leaders and place your trust, and their lies won't slow > down and their promises rust, you'll see killing machines and more > rockets and guns, And the public wants what the public gets but I don't > get what this society wants, I'm going underground" > -- Going Underground from Sound Affects by The Jam! > > On another note, I'd doing these quotes in fortune format, so let me > know if their interest and I'll start posting the dailies on my web > site. > > -- Jack This is my evo script sig: #!/bin/csh -f =20 echo "-- " cat /home/michael/.asciisig /usr/games/fortune I had done some googling around and found that the " -- " tag needed to be there even in the ascii message - something with evo. The actual sig file it calls is the static part and then obviously, fortune. I stuck with #! c shell because it seems to work. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #259: Someone's tie is caught in the printer, and if anything else gets printed, he'll be in it too. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Hijacking threads
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:12:25 -0500 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think people are supposed to ignore these posts in order to > encourage the offender to repost properly. I unfortunately let myself > be rude instead, for which I apologize. What is worse, if a person is deleting a thread that doesn't interest them they may accidentally delete a hijack thread that does interest them without noticing it. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:05, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Michael Holt wrote: > > > I added my client machine to /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts and added the > > above to main.cf then I sent a message to my boss from the client > > machine to see what happens. I'm not sure when I'll hear back, so I'm > > just going to wait a bit and see. I want to wait to make any more > > changes to see if this has any effect. > > You did either restart or reload Postfix after making the changes, right? > > If not, the main.cf change won't take effect until you do. Si Senor! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 70. Hmm, maybe if I do this... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:57, James Sparenberg wrote: > 3 people are in a car. An Electrical Engineer, A Windows programmer, > and a Mechanical Engineer. They are trying to get a car to re-start > after it dies. The Electrical Engineer is under the hood testing the > wiring, the Mechanical Engineer is under the car Checking out if the > measurements are matching the blueprints. The Programmer is opening and > closing windows, and a kid who is riding by on his Bike suggests putting > gas in the tank. > > James :) I like that -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #10: hardware stress fractures Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:53, Bill Mullen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:41:55 -0800 Michael Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Consider coding it simply: > > > myhostname = holt-tech.net > > Exactly. Using "earth.holt-tech.net" gives no benefit, because that name > does not resolve, while "holt-tech.net" alone *does* (forward, at least). Ok, too late, I already hit 'send' on my last before reading this one. Why would this tag be in the conf file if it wants domain name? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #22: monitor resolution too high Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 18:00, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:41:55 -0800 Michael Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Consider coding it simply: > > myhostname = holt-tech.net Ok, now the question becomes, why am I using my domain name instead of my host name where it asks for my host name? TIA -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 34. What is all this I here about static charges destroying computers? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 14:22, Jack Coates wrote: > if the address is in a DHCP pool assigned for home users, more and more > servers out there will block direct SMTP connections from it; only > relaying through the ISP's server will work in this case. This is what I was first thinking; but I'm able to use the webmail from behind my firewall - that's still a direct connection. It seems like rDNS would have to be the culprit. I guess I'll have to wait a bit and see if I get a message back from my boss. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 38. OH, CRUD! (as they scrabble at the keyboard for ^c). --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 14:06, Bill Mullen wrote: > Unless, of course, the only one giving you fits is your boss', which we > have already established is hosed in some bizarre fashion ... but > having Postfix use a more valid hostname may fix that situation, too, even > though that doesn't fully explain that server's rather eccentric behavior. Ok, here's my new postconf: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain, earth.$mydomain mydomain = holt-tech.net myhostname = earth.holt-tech.net mynetworks = 192.168.0.0/24, 127.0.0.0/24 myorigin = holt-tech.net I added my client machine to /var/spool/postfix/etc/hosts and added the above to main.cf then I sent a message to my boss from the client machine to see what happens. I'm not sure when I'll hear back, so I'm just going to wait a bit and see. I want to wait to make any more changes to see if this has any effect. > HTH! That's great! Thanks again! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #373: Suspicious pointer corrupted virtual machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 10:23, Jack Coates wrote: > Yeah, nothing like interviewing job candidates to burst that bubble :-) > There are some very good people out there, but the dangerous ones are > the ones that know just enough to do things but don't know enough to > realize that they shouldn't do that thing. LOL, no kidding :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #10: hardware stress fractures Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) **** Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta156.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 Received: from machinename (unknown [host.internal.ip]) by servername (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606E205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #57: Groundskeepers stole the root password Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:56, Jack Coates wrote: > I'd stop by the sysadmin's desk on the way to the coffee pot and ask > her/him, assuming it's the kind of place you can walk around in. > > Failing that, an off-hand comment about how their email system doesn't > seem to accept mail from your home address and see if they'll introduce > you to the sysadmin. Point of contact may not need to know that it's > widely broken, the sysadmin can help them to that knowledge. I'm on a remote site :'( but I think I'm just going to email them and see if I can bug them about it - sometimes innocent ignorance has an appeal :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #251: Processes running slowly due to weak power supply Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:51, Jack Coates wrote: > Cisco routers are actually very dumb. If the router or a regular > firewall is blocking the mail, then the three way TCP handshake will > never complete. If a proxy-using firewall (Raptor or the so-called > "security servers" in PIX and Check Point (so-called because the number > one source of security holes on those firewalls)) is in use, it will > accept enough headers to make a decision on. > > Dropping the connection right after 220 for servers that aren't on any > BL is broken behavior. Ok, in reading the rfc 2821, I come to these relevant lines: "The SMTP client MUST, if possible, ensure that the domain parameter to the EHLO command is a valid principal host name (not a CNAME or MX name) for its host. If this is not possible (e.g., when the client's address is dynamically assigned and the client does not have an obvious name), an address literal SHOULD be substituted for the domain name and supplemental information provided that will assist in identifying the client." In my original post, I included my headers. They show that the webmail header came with my verizon dsl id: Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Notice the second "received" line "evrtwa1-blah-blah". Could that string be what allows me to connect to their server? Short of that, I'm at a loss as to what else could be dropping me. When I use the client machines, that line becomes whatever machine name I'm at along with it's internal ip. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #257: That would be because the software doesn't work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 06:47, Jack Coates wrote: > you assume that they know what they're doing... many people in the IT > world don't. LOL I'm working on the 'NMCI' project in Bremerton, WA right now - the 'Naval Marine Corps Intranet'. I believe that there are a few really sharp people doing the engineering, but each day my bubble gets a little more crushed realizing how true your statement is. I just assumed that the people I went to work with new more than I and were all professionals... -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #152: My pony-tail hit the on/off switch on the power strip. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 22:56, Bill wrote: > I dont believe it is a router issue. They could have a acl in place but then > you wouldnt see the answer from the server it would just block it alltogther. > I dont remember ever seing a Cisco router checking the header files in emails > to block a person. I think they may have a timeout issue like mentioned > before. They may be trying to prevent anyone from trying to run a script to > get in there box through there email server software. This is the first time > I have seen an email server not respond the correct way using telent to port > 25. > > In any case it seems to be there problem. I would contact there sys admin and > see whats up with this issue. Please let us know what the answer is if you > get one. p.s. I do have to tread lightly; I contract for this company and the person I emailed is my point of contact -- I'm not sure how they will react if I tell them how hard I've been working to 'figure out' their system *grin* -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #387: Your computer's union contract is set to expire at midnight. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 22:56, Bill wrote: > I dont believe it is a router issue. They could have a acl in place but then > you wouldnt see the answer from the server it would just block it alltogther. > I dont remember ever seing a Cisco router checking the header files in emails > to block a person. I think they may have a timeout issue like mentioned > before. They may be trying to prevent anyone from trying to run a script to > get in there box through there email server software. This is the first time > I have seen an email server not respond the correct way using telent to port > 25. > > In any case it seems to be there problem. I would contact there sys admin and > see whats up with this issue. Please let us know what the answer is if you > get one. Alrightty then, I'll see what I can find out from them. Hey thanks again everyone, I'll let you know what I come up with. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #226: A star wars satellite accidently blew up the WAN. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:43, Eric Huff wrote: > > > On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the > > > paralell port. i can't do both... > > > > > > eric > > > > Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? > > Yeah, i have a choice: > acpi=on and then no parallel port, > or > acpi=off, and then the comp doesn't shut down. > > Not sure what acpi=ht means. I'll hae to check it out > > This is all under 9.1. > > eric Hmm... I don't pretend to know about kernel stuff, but it seems odd that that would affect your parallel ports. All I can say is, try 9.2 - I don't have any p port stuff, but without acpi in lilo -- off or on -- just removed altogether, my machine shuts down now. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #339: manager in the cable duct Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:27, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 17:10, Bryan Phinney wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: > > > > > I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any > > > email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep > > > from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If > > > this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating > > > from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? > > > So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines > > > would look identical? > > > > Michael, is it possible that you are using a different "From:" address when > > using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting > > based on the From listed as the sender. > > Except they drop connection before he could ever send From.. Maybe > they've set a ridiculously low timeout or something, but it doesn't act > like any real world mailserver I've ever seen. See, that's the thing. I haven't done any playing with cisco routers, but I would imagine that the ios is smart enough to drop anything except an email packet at port 25 and then with all the recent problems with ddos attacks and virii, etc, I would think that they *would* want to seriously filter the headers that come in. But you guys are saying that the headers on my email - no matter which machine I'm sending from - are absolutely normal? Nobody would or could do it differently? Well thanks everyone for all the info -- I've definitely learned some stuff (including that I need to do some studying!:) ) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #321: Scheduled global CPU outage Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:26, Jack Coates wrote: > > Ok, I don't fully understand the term 'whitelisting', but I assume that > > it means only specified senders get in? > right. > > > I'm able to send to any account > > I've ever tried in the past (hotmail, yahoo, my server when using > > squirrelmail), how could this be setup? I've got to be doing something > > wrong, I just don't know what. > > your setup is probably fine. Theirs is FUBAR'd. No fault of yours. Well, it seems to be the general opinion that I can't really do anything about this situation? It just seems so odd that they would make their servers *that* inaccessible. > > p.s. thanks for doing all the footwork of hitting their servers, I don't > > even really know where to begin :) > > no problem -- this sort of thing is part of what I do for a living these > days, and I was really bored at work :-) LOL :) Cool. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #253: We've run out of licenses Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 17:10, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2003 07:18 pm, Michael Holt wrote: > > > I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any > > email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep > > from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If > > this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating > > from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? > > So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines > > would look identical? > > Michael, is it possible that you are using a different "From:" address when > using Squirrelmail versus when you use Evolution? They may be whitelisting > based on the From listed as the sender. No - that stuff is all the same. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #371: Incorrectly configured static routes on the corerouters. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:34, Jack Coates wrote: > Their server won't accept connections from anything that I have access > too, and I have access to some pretty high traffic (and legit :-) mail > servers -- I don't see how they can get mail from any one. They don't > even give the chance to AUTH. Since that server is the only MX record > listed in their zone, they're self-blackholed. My guess is they're > whitelisting, which IMHO is The Beginning Of The End. Ok, I don't fully understand the term 'whitelisting', but I assume that it means only specified senders get in? I'm able to send to any account I've ever tried in the past (hotmail, yahoo, my server when using squirrelmail), how could this be setup? I've got to be doing something wrong, I just don't know what. p.s. thanks for doing all the footwork of hitting their servers, I don't even really know where to begin :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 100. Uh-oh. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:40, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 15:16, Michael Holt wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Jack Coates wrote: > > > > > Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet > > > to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. > > > You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it > > > earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still > > > floating around in Sympa. > > > > Ok, I'll check it out :) I'm curious though, I'm still unable to get > > through to that address via evolution, but squirrelmail goes through > > just fine. Telnet to that address gets access denied. I tried > > telnetting to my own server port 25 and it didn't get denied - so - > > yeah, I believe you. I'm still confused about why I can't email through > > postfix to that specific email address. I tried it from my wife's > > laptop using win2k and outlook to my test account and the headers looked > > almost identical to those of evolution. It obviously works because I'm > > writing to you right now using evolution. Something in their server is > > rejecting me based on something that is happening differently on > > evolution -- what the heck would it be? The only thing that I can see > > that would be different would be the "received" lines in the headers. > > > > Any thoughts? > > well, I've only sort of been following this, but if one client gets > access denied with telnet to 25 and the other doesn't, then the first is > probably tripping a blacklist rule. Does your wife's laptop connect via > a VPN (hence via a different network)? Ok, I think this has gotten confused. My server is hosting web, email, etc. You can logon from anywhere if you have an account, and use webmail. When I log on to the web mail server, which is sitting in my living room - behind the router connected to dsl, I can send email to a particular person. Now I can also specify that same server as an email server and connect to it with client machines, i.e., other boxes; with client mua's, i.e., outlook, evolution, pine, whatever. When I connect with outlook for example, the "received" line of my email header ends up looking like this: Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) When I use squirrelmail (my webmail server) it looks like this: Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Now, I've changed the ip's and machine name's but you get the idea. This is sent to a test account just to see what the headers end up like. The problem is that when I email my boss (I'm a contractor and my point of contact works for this specific company) I get refused and my email is bounced with this: connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service Received: from myclientmachine (unknown [192.168.0.4]) by myemailserver (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E918200099 This is just a snippet but the rest is just email information. I'm not able to telnet to this person's email server at all, from anywhere. I'm wondering if they have something set on their server to drop any email that doesn't show an fqdn in the received string. Maybe to keep from getting email from a server that's been taken over as a relay? If this is the case, how would I set postfix so that emails originating from other boxes on my lan would appear to be the server sending them? So that the above headers taken from both webmail and client machines would look identical? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #173: Recursive traversal of loopback mount points Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 14:38, Jack Coates wrote: > Try watching a mail session with ethereal sometime... it's just telnet > to port 25, though a server is faster and has fewer typos than a human. > You can send mails though, -- I posted an example of how to do it > earlier today, with the Dead Kennedies quote, but I think it's still > floating around in Sympa. Ok, I'll check it out :) I'm curious though, I'm still unable to get through to that address via evolution, but squirrelmail goes through just fine. Telnet to that address gets access denied. I tried telnetting to my own server port 25 and it didn't get denied - so - yeah, I believe you. I'm still confused about why I can't email through postfix to that specific email address. I tried it from my wife's laptop using win2k and outlook to my test account and the headers looked almost identical to those of evolution. It obviously works because I'm writing to you right now using evolution. Something in their server is rejecting me based on something that is happening differently on evolution -- what the heck would it be? The only thing that I can see that would be different would be the "received" lines in the headers. Any thoughts? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #309: firewall needs cooling Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:37, Jason Williams wrote: > $ telnet 65.246.197.34 25 > Trying 65.246.197.34... > Connected to 65.246.197.34. > Escape character is '^]'. > 521 qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com access denied > Connection closed by foreign host. Ok, question -- why would a server let you telnet into port 25? I would think that a connection like that would get dropped for sure. > You may want to consider upgrading to a new version of Postfix. There have > been quite a few enhancements as well as security features that have > changed since this release. A quick note: If you do upgrade, note that the > way rules are applied (UCE specifically) into Postifx 2.x are slightly > different than 1.x. I think I'm going to hold off upgrading pf for just now; time constraints and all. I'm planning on migrating the server to mdk9.2 here soon - just waiting to make sure enough release bugs are squashed :) > Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. > > Jason Thanks so much for your help! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #266: All of the packets are empty. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] postfix headers
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 13:10, Jason Williams wrote: > I dont see anything in your headers that would warrant them being malicious > or spam. > The only real thing I can see is that when you logged in remotely, its > showing the verizon connection that was initiated. Is this a bad thing? This is just saying where I logged in from, no? My router does NAT loopback, so I just log onto my webpage using my domain name and then hit the webmail page and log in. I assumed that this is what is being added here. > There are no other messages regarding why it was blocked? No bounce backs? connect to qxssmtp2.qualxserv.com[65.246.197.34]: server refused mail service I didn't save any others. It's only been a few, but since I just tried using a different system, everything is suspect. > What version of postfix are you running? postfix-1.1.11-4mdk / Mandrake 9.0 > Jason -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #194: We only support a 1200 bps connection. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] postfix headers
Hey all, Sorry for the long post, but I'm confused here. I've been using squirrelmail for several months now, but I wanted to switch to a local mail client. Squirrelmail really is local because my postfix email server is behind the firewall along with my host machines. I want to use the webmail when I'm outside the firewall and Evolution/Pine/Outlook/whatever when I'm inside. Anyway, I've gotten a couple of returned emails since I've started using evolution saying that the destination server refused the email. I don't have any way of testing their systems to see why it's being rejected so I just tried sending a couple messages to an external test account on yahoo and then comparing the headers. The following are two sets of headers; the first is from squirrelmail where I was logged on remotely to webmail but from the same side of the firewall. The second is from evolution, also on the same side of the firewall. ** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.72; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta130.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:14:06 -0800 Received: from www.holt-tech.net (unknown [server.internal.ip.address]) by servername (Postfix) with SMTP id 13833205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from evrtwa1-ar17-4-35-151-34.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net ([4.35.151.34]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user michael) by server.internal.ip.address with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:16:15 -0800 (PST) Subject:another test From: "Michael Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Content-Length: 4 *** X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 66.218.93.80; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 X-YahooFilteredBulk:4.35.151.34 Return-Path:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 4.35.151.34 (EHLO servername) (4.35.151.34) by mta156.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:00:02 -0800 Received: from machinename (unknown [host.internal.ip]) by servername (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0606E205CFC for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) Subject:test From: "Michael Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:01:59 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 314 Both messages were written in ascii (html turned off) but I've noticed that they don't have the same type of tags at the bottom. The "received" lines for both also seem to be quite different. What I need to know is, are these differences enough to keep my email from getting through on some systems? Could someone be considering my email to be potentially dangerous or spam or something of that nature because of these headers? Thanks in advance, -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 97. Go get your backup tape. (You _do_ have a backup tape?) --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:12, James Sparenberg wrote: > Eric, Don't haunt Newbie so to me it's just proof that great minds run > on the same wavelength. *grin* > > James Alright, let's not get carried away now ;) > > ______ -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 18. where did you say those backup tapes were kept? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 09:29, Artemio wrote: > Michael Holt wrote: > > I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a > > moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? > > Well, yes - but in mdk 9.1 - and it didn't change anything for me. How about on 9.2? Like I said, I've been living with this for quite a while now; if it hadn't been for noting that it worked briefly during an upgrade, I probably would have just continued to use it as-is. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< SysAdmin excuse #128: Power Company having EMP problems with their reactor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 00:43, Peter Watson wrote: > PS. I missed the most important difference. Kino allows unlimited DV > capture, M$ moviemaker appears to allow the same, but the resultant files > are somehow crippled so that they appear to other applications to be only > 7008 frames long. This severely limits your ability to do any post > processing, such as conversion to MPEG 1/2 in order to master a VCD or > DVD, I don't know how or why this is done but it is typical of M$ to build > in restrictions to otherwise functional software, look at XP Home > networking abilities. The overall result is that moviemaker is really only > a toy and cannot be cosidered for any attempt to produce serious video > output. > > > Regards > Pete Cool! Thanks for the very detailed response! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 94. Hey!! The suns don't do this. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Q: Failure to boot installed Linux PPC 9.1 on G3
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 05:58, Stew Benedict wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Morten S. Mortensen wrote: > > > > > Hi Stew B. & all, > > > > Move to "cooker-ppc"? Because the "cooker"-version tries to repair this or what? > > There is not much "cooker" over the 9.1 version, is there? > > > > "ccoker-ppc" is a bit of a misnomer. It's a general purpose "Mandrake on > PowerPC" list, both for the development and released versions. I just > suggested moving so we don't annoy the "x86" folks with Apple noise :) I'm not annoyed, if that counts :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 37. The sprinkler system isn't supposed to leak is it? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:50, Eric Huff wrote: > > I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I > > shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead > > of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. > > Do you have a printer hooked up to the paralell port? If so check > and see if it works. > > On my comcrap, i seem to have a choice: run acpi or run the paralell > port. i can't do both... > > eric Hmmm... I just removed the acpi=ht line from lilo.conf and now all is well. I'm not sure if that disables acpi - I would think so. Anyway, the machine shuts off now. I don't have any parallel devices to connect to my machine, so that's a moot point for me. Have you tried removing acpi from your lilo? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 40. The backup procedure works fine, but the restore is tricky! --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 19:11, Bill Mullen wrote: > Also worth knowing is that "view" is equivalent to "vi -R" (and quite a > bit easier to remember) ... "gview" is the same as "gvim -R", also ... That's not nearly as fun though! Want a rush? Logon as root and start randomly opening files with vi :) Seriously though, thanks for the 'view' command. I'll switch to that I think, it seems easier to remember - especially if I can still override with :w! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< -2. `We are shutting xxx down from 8.30 to 10.30 on Thursday to install a new tape drive.' The machine was up at about 2pm sans-tape drive --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] firebird / evolution new session
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:03, Jack Coates wrote: > use this attached script as your default browser instead -- it opens new > tabs if there's already a browser open, or opens a new browser if > necessary. Set up for Mozilla now, but making it work with Firebird or > whatever would be fairly simple from the examples. Thanks to Ciff Wells, > who wrote it. Hey Jack, Just an update; script works great! Since I don't use mozilla (I use firebird) I just linked 'mozilla' in my path to MozFbird so I didn't have to mess with the script at all. Thanks again! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 18. where did you say those backup tapes were kept? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] firebird / evolution new session
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:03, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 07:36, Michael Holt wrote: > > Hey, > > I just started using evolution and I've found that when I click on a > > link from my email, it tries to start a new session of mozilla. When > > this happens, mozilla complains about having a session already open. > > How do I make it look to see if an instance is already open? I imagine > > that this is probably more to do with how mozilla gets called to begin > > with, so; I used gnome control center to change the default handler to > > mozillafirebird %s -- I thought the %s was what was supposed to take > > care of my problem? > > > > tia > > use this attached script as your default browser instead -- it opens new > tabs if there's already a browser open, or opens a new browser if > necessary. Set up for Mozilla now, but making it work with Firebird or > whatever would be fairly simple from the examples. Thanks to Ciff Wells, > who wrote it. : thanks!!! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< -8. Ignore the errors. It complains too much. --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] firebird / evolution new session
Hey, I just started using evolution and I've found that when I click on a link from my email, it tries to start a new session of mozilla. When this happens, mozilla complains about having a session already open. How do I make it look to see if an instance is already open? I imagine that this is probably more to do with how mozilla gets called to begin with, so; I used gnome control center to change the default handler to mozillafirebird %s -- I thought the %s was what was supposed to take care of my problem? tia -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 36. It is only a minor upgrade, the system should be back up in a few hours. ( This is said on a monday afternoon.) --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mirroring contents of old drive onto new drive
Use rsync: rsync -az /old /new Mike Tom McLaughlin wrote: Hi all, I have an 80 gig xfs formatted drive that I use for data storage. The drive is almost full so I have ordered a new 200 gig drive to replace it. Now I need to figure out how to mirror the contents of the old drive onto the new one. I had thought about mirroring the drives using `dd` but I don't think that's the right way to go since the drives are not the same size. From reading the xfsdump man page it looks like the following should take care of my needs: # xfsdump -J - /old | xfsrestore -J - /new Are there any other arguments that I should add to xfsdump or xfsrestore such as blocksize? Are there any caveats to doing this considering the amount of data to be transfered or to be aware of when using this method? Am I going in the complete wrong direction and should instead be using something else? All help is greatly appreciated. If you can't tell, I'm super paranoid about screwing this up. Thanks! Tom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin
If you have not setup a filter in procmail, here is what mine looks like: ## File all spam mail :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes SPAM This is catching 98% of all spam received. I would not suggest sending spam to /dev/null, by sending it to a folder you have the ability to make sure spammassassin does not think some is spam when it really is not. I also have my mailreader to show all attachements as attachements and not displayed inline this way I do not have to actually see the junk mail. Mike Schwartz Avi wrote: On Nov 10, 2003, at 13:27, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, this really irritates me. I have the latest spamassassin. It is running in daemon mode. I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that is identified as spam. I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH! I don't know how you set spamassasin, but in my installation all it does is tag the message as spam in the headers and I still had to create a rule (in my case using sieve) to move all this garbage to a spam folder. Avi Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:26, Peter Watson wrote: > No it can do more things IMO:- > > Create titles - do fewer but better effects - export video in more ^ ^^ > > formats(like divx) - show frame numbers (as well as times)when editing > -more flexible editing tools. > > Regards > Pete Ok, that's what I'm looking for. I want to be able to do some of those "better" effects. So, how would I approach that? Moviemaker can take still jpegs and turn them into transitions like a page flip for example. How would I accomplish that on linux? Is that where the gimp would come in? I guess I'm looking for any plugins or whatever that could go into kino. I'm going to play more with kino and cinelerra and see how it works out. Thanks! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< If Microsoft built cars, you could only have one person in the car at a time, unless you bought "Car95" or "CarNT". But, then you would have to buy more seats. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 16:33, Jack Coates wrote: > yeah, if file says it's a script, then you vi -R the script and see what > it does (-R means read-only :-) Yeah, pulled that one before ... ouch -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 16:42, Peter Watson wrote: > Kino will allow you to do some simple video editing and includes effects > like fades and barn doors also you can create titles etc from gifs or > jpegs (hint use gimp to create them), it is not as comprehensive as > premier but miles better than M$ moviemaker. I have not usef cinelerra > but from what I hear it is very good, probably equal or better than > premier > > > Regards > > Pete So are you saying 'miles better' because it's m$? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ==< 19. hey, what does mkfs do? --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:50, James Sparenberg wrote: > > APCI Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller > errr APIC sorry. > > James APIC AIPC ACIP AICP APCI ACPI I CNA'T TKAE IT AYNMROE!!! :P -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:34, James Sparenberg wrote: > ACPI is part of Linear Algebra and beyond my ken. *grin* > > James Yeah, thanks. I wasn't screwed up enough with just two definitions :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 15:26, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 08:05, Michael Holt wrote: > > James Sparenberg mused: > > > > > There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality > > > called > > > broadcast 2000 You can find the files here > > > > > > http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ > > > > > > in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might > > > find > > > a src rpm as well. > > > > > > James > > > > Thanks James, > > I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious > > though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k > > and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped > > supporting bcast? > > Some of what they where doing was patented after the fact and they felt > that the chances of running into expensive lawsuits wasn't worth the > risk. > > James Ahh, I see. Thanks James -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 14:13, Jack Coates wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] html]# urpmf gpilotd > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotd.so.2 > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotd.so.2.1.0 > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotdcm.so.2 > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotdcm.so.2.0.2 > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotdconduit.so.2 > libgnome-pilot2:/usr/lib/libgpilotdconduit.so.2.0.3 > gnome-pilot:/usr/bin/gpilotd-control-applet > gnome-pilot:/usr/bin/gpilotd-session-wrapper > gnome-pilot:/usr/lib/gpilotd > ... > > ah hah. There's your gpilotd... that session-wrapper thing might be > useful... try using file on it, and if it's a script then it might tell > you something useful. You da man!! :) Ok, I ran /usr/lib/gpilotd and all is well. Now, what did 'file' tell me beside the fact that this was an executable file? I noticed that you said "if it's a *script* then it might tell you something useful." I tried running file on some scripts; it seems to describe what type of scripts you're looking at. Is that what you were getting at? Thanks Jack! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net (/)_ (/)_ V_/_ www.mandrakelinux.com ===< Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:13, Artemio wrote: > > Hey, awesome! > > I had "acpi=ht"; I removed that line altogether and added "noapic" > > for kicks. > > So - did it work? Yeah, and I removed the noapic line because evidently, I don't need it! :) > The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing > > ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface > > APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller > > > ...dictd at localhost port 2628 > > > :-P Yes and thank you for that too! I'm getting rug-burn on my nose now :) I'm off to see if I can find some other stupid question to ask now! Thanks again :) -- Michael Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:57, Jack Coates wrote: > no it isn't, that's the control panel applet, which happens to start > gpilotd for you if it isn't already running. Just run gpilotd from a > startup script. Ok, if I do 'which gpilotd' it's nowhere to be found. If I do 'gpilotd' from the command, I get --bash command not found. In fact, if you do 'gpil' you get: gpilotd-control-applet gpilotd-session-wrapper gpilot-install-file The actual 'gpilotd' seems to be buried somewhere. I tried doing 'vi gpilotd-control-applet' just to see if I could see what is happening, but it wasn't very helpful for me. > you're lucky that it works at all, gnome-pilot is one finicky pile of > junk -- er, fine piece of software. :-) :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Tim Sawchuck mused: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) > "Michael Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic > parchment: > >> Artemio mused: >> > I may not be right, but this can be something connected with >> ACPI. >> > >> > If in /etc/lilo.conf for main "linux" image you have >> "acpi=off" in >> > "append" >> > string - try to change it to "acpi=on" and say "lilo" to >> > re-install the >> > loader. Or, if you have "acpi=on" try to set it to "off". >> >> Hey, awesome! >> I had "acpi=ht"; I removed that line altogether and added >> "noapic" >> for kicks. >> >> By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two >> different > > Two *very* different things! Thanks to Google: > > ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) www.acpi.info/ > > The 82093AA I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller > (IOAPIC) provides multi-processor interrupt management > > www.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/290566.htm > > Tim hehe, I thought that was just a type-o! :) thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
Jack Coates mused: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 09:42, Michael Holt wrote: >> Jack Coates mused: >> > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 07:58, Michael Holt wrote: >> >> How can I start / stop the gpilotd manually? >> >> I want it to get started when the machine boots but I'd like >> to >> >> be >> >> able to shut it off manually. >> > >> > In a terminal, type >> > >> > pkill gpilotd >> > >> >> AAA!!! DUH!! I'm sorry I'm very distracted this morning :/ >> >> Ok, killing the thing isn't really a problem - starting it when >> the machine boots would be nice. :) >> I got a little frustrated trying to find the actual 'gpilotd' >> on/off button. I'd like to be able to run the gpilotd as an >> init >> script, but I don't know where it lives. I did some googling >> around but had no luck. >> >> Anyway, thanks Jack! > > NP :-) > > if you've got a sessions-capable window manager, your configger > will > have some sort of a "start these programs" tool. Otherwise, put an > executable script into ~/Desktop/Autostart/ and call it from > there. If > you go that route, look our for how you edit the script -- > Anything in > the folder will be executed, including ~ backup files. It's not so much that I can't start the program; the start program is 'gpilotd-control-applet'. The thing is, I just want to put my visor in it's cradle and hit the sync button - I've been using jpilot, but you have to hit the button on the cradle then click the sync button on jpilot and sometimes that doesn't work and if you don't hurry, it times out and you have to start over on the series of clicks and button pushes. Gnome-pilot is supposed to have the gpilotd (daemon) which runs in the background. Now once you've started it via the applet / dialog (which also brings up a dialog box asking you to confirm the device and settings), you can hit the cradle button to sync and it works great. The problem is that I don't leave this machine on, so I don't want to have to manually start that applet each time and even if it does start automatically, I still need to hit the 'ok' button each time. I just want it to start silently in the background. I can't seem to find any documentation that covers what I want it to do. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] pc doesn't shutdown
Artemio mused: > I may not be right, but this can be something connected with ACPI. > > If in /etc/lilo.conf for main "linux" image you have "acpi=off" in > "append" > string - try to change it to "acpi=on" and say "lilo" to > re-install the > loader. Or, if you have "acpi=on" try to set it to "off". Hey, awesome! I had "acpi=ht"; I removed that line altogether and added "noapic" for kicks. By the way, which is it? ACPI or APCI? Or are they two different things? Thanks though, it works now! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
Jack Coates mused: > On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 07:58, Michael Holt wrote: >> How can I start / stop the gpilotd manually? >> I want it to get started when the machine boots but I'd like to >> be >> able to shut it off manually. > > In a terminal, type > > pkill gpilotd > AAA!!! DUH!! I'm sorry I'm very distracted this morning :/ Ok, killing the thing isn't really a problem - starting it when the machine boots would be nice. :) I got a little frustrated trying to find the actual 'gpilotd' on/off button. I'd like to be able to run the gpilotd as an init script, but I don't know where it lives. I did some googling around but had no luck. Anyway, thanks Jack! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] movies, jpegs, etc
James Sparenberg mused: > There was/is one that was by many considered to be studio quality > called > broadcast 2000 You can find the files here > > http://www.tux.org/pub/packages/orphaned/broadcast2000/ > > in source form and If you go to rpmfind or rpm.pbone.net you might > find > a src rpm as well. > > James Thanks James, I d/l'd it and am going to start playing with it now. I'm curious though; cinelerra is supposed to be the replacement for bcast2k and I googled around for bcast; do you know why they stopped supporting bcast? Thanks again -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] manually start / stop gpilotd
How can I start / stop the gpilotd manually? I want it to get started when the machine boots but I'd like to be able to shut it off manually. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pc doesn't shutdown
I haven't had my pc shutdown all the way for quite some time. I was using mdk9 then 9.1 and now 9.2 and I've just gotten used to it. I just upgraded to 9.2 though, and noticed that when I shutdown the machine, it actually powered all the way off; instead of just stopping at the end and waiting for me to turn it off. That was on an upgrade type install from 9.1 to 9.2. For other reasons, I did a reinstall of 9.2, wiping the old partitions to start out fresh. Now I'm back to having to hit the power button to turn the machine off. I know this is vague, but any ideas where to look? Now it's going to bug me. The machine is an Asus a7m266-d dual athlon board. I haven't done any of the bios updates because they don't offer any improvements that I could tell. Thanks, Mike -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] movies, jpegs, etc
Hey all, M$ has a somewhat new program called 'moviemaker' which you can download for free for winxp. I would like to know if there is something comparible for linux. I was asked if I could help with some video production at my church and they want to use Adobe Premier. As always, I would like to introduce as much opensource as possible. I haven't done much video editing, and what I have done was on Windows, several years ago. I would like something that could handle both jpeg compilation like moviemaker and also something that could do video transitions with effects similar to premier. Being able to make photos 'shatter' into the next photo or have like a 'page-flip' effect. Same with the video; maybe being able to 'twist' the video and merge into other footage. Any suggestions? Things I've looked at already are: cinelerra kino mjpeg filmgimp As I've said, I don't have much video editing experience; if one of the programs I've already mentioned does what I've asked, feel free to point that out :) Thanks! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?
It has been a while since I last dd a disk drive (it is best to make them the same type and size). Assuming that the old disk is /dev/hda and the new disk is /dev/hdb the following command should work: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb Then make the new disk /dev/hda and the system should boot. As I said it has been a while and may have the basic command a little off. But the original (noisy) drive will still be in working order. If you have it, I have also heard that the latest Norton Ghost will also work. Mike Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 5:06 pm, Michael Noble wrote: Anne, Usually when a drive starts to make noise, it is caused by the bearings. I have had drives last for years while making noise. But if this is a new drive (less than a year) you will probably be able to get it replaced. But since you will have to deal with the manufacturer of the drive (which will mean down time) it would probably do best to go out and purchase another drive replace the noisy drive and then get it replaced. Once replaced, you will have a spare drive for future use. The odd thing is, it's for short periods, just a few times a day. Thanks to all for comments/suggestions. This is really bad timing for me, as I have so many commitments over the next few days, but I don't think I should ignore this. I'll fit it all in as best I can. For the copy, I would suggest dd rather than cp. OK - I'll RTFMP Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Impending drive problem?
Anne, Usually when a drive starts to make noise, it is caused by the bearings. I have had drives last for years while making noise. But if this is a new drive (less than a year) you will probably be able to get it replaced. But since you will have to deal with the manufacturer of the drive (which will mean down time) it would probably do best to go out and purchase another drive replace the noisy drive and then get it replaced. Once replaced, you will have a spare drive for future use. For the copy, I would suggest dd rather than cp. Mike Anne Wilson wrote: Recently I have noticed that my drive is noisy from time to time. It is a 6-month old drive, with an older one as slave. I have unmounted all the partitions on the old drive, but it is still happening, so I have to assume that it is the new drive. We have had workmen in the house for over 2 weeks, and there has been an incredible amount of dust. I cleaned out the inside of the box as well as I could after the main part of the work was complete, but it was only at about time that the noise started. I think it is when writing to swap. I suspect that dust has got in where I cannot follow. How likely is that? I wonder if I should be buying another drive of the same size, then doing an overnight cp -a to the new drive, then attempting to use rsync to keep them mirrored, just in case. What do you think? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] fetchmail not working on 9.2
I installed 9.2 all the patches and fetchmail does not work. I can go back to 9.0 and fetchmail works. Has anybody gotten fetchmail to work on 9.2, if so what is the trick? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Autofs and hiding mount points
By default Autofs hides indirect mounts till it is used. Is there any way to prevent this behavior. I realize that this is actually a nice security by obscurity feature, but my users do not always know the directories inside the indirect path and being able to see the directory name would really be a benefit. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Redhat discontinued? was: Re: [expert] Mandrake Clubs
On 04 Nov 2003 09:35:17 -0500 Brian V Bonini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 22:59, James Sparenberg wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 17:02, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > On Monday 03 November 2003 07:01 pm, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > > > > Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > > > On Sunday 02 November 2003 09:03 am, Brian V Bonini wrote: > > > > >>Not exactly a tech questions but: > > > > >> > > > > >>Where can I find a list of differences between the different > > > > >club>membership levels, assuming there are differences? > > > > > > > > > > Brian: > > > > > The Club FAQ gives some help, although IMHO it could be more > > > > > complete: > > > > > http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1294&mode=nocomments > > > > > -- cmg > > > > > > > > I agree they need to be more clear. They explain "Standard vs > > > > Silver and above". But not Silver vs Gold, or Gold vs Platinum. > > > > > > > > It would be nice to get some special stuff as a Gold or Platinum > > > > user, like real ftp of iso's instead of bittorrent... :) > > > > > > Brian: > > > Gold and Platinum memberships are targeted at corporate sponsors > > > -- as in folks with big bucks to spend. I don't think that they > > > get any special benefits beyond those of a Silver member. > > > -- cmg > > > > > > > And it works like an umbrella membership for all employee systems. > > > > James > > > > Thanks for the info, just looking to support it in some way so we > don't end up like RedHat. I must be slow on getting news this week but > I just learned of this: > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn > Probably a good time for mdk to have their ducks in a row, I'm > guessing there will be RH users looking to move elsewhere since RH is > bailing on them. > Redhat are not bailing. They have forked. They have there commercial side and then there is Fedora. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Got hands on RAID-1 or RAID-5?
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 06:52:29 -0500 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 31 October 2003 03:33 am, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > Dear all, > > I'm planning to try RAID-1 or RAID-5. Does anyone have any > > experience on this? Can you pls tell me about it or give me an url? > > Thanks guys. > > I use RAID 1 here on a small samba server. Very easy to set up and > get going. > > There are a couple of really good HOWTO's on this topic over at > tldp.org-- > /g > > "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside > a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx > > RAID 5 is the best, no arguement. It requires three disks though. It allows for one disk to be removed on failure, a new disk to be installed, and the data to be rebuilt from the other two disks. Excellent for mission critical stuff. The data effectively gets written 1.5 times across the three disks. No hardware RAID (on i586 architechture) supports this to my knowledge, but then it was attested that linux software raid was always better anyway:) -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] more msec questions
Michael Holt mused: > Hi ... me again :/ > I'm at msec 4, which defaults to 6 days on password aging. I've > used drakconf to set password aging to several different numbers > and I've tried setting my changes in level.local - no good, still > stays at 6 days. I've also tried restarting all services and even > reboot the machine - still not happening. Thanks for any > suggestions... I'll answer my own post... I did chage -M on the individual users and it seems to have stuck; why wouldn't that work through my previous methods? thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < "So in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] more msec questions
Hi ... me again :/ I'm at msec 4, which defaults to 6 days on password aging. I've used drakconf to set password aging to several different numbers and I've tried setting my changes in level.local - no good, still stays at 6 days. I've also tried restarting all services and even reboot the machine - still not happening. Thanks for any suggestions... -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < "So in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] updates to 9.2
I just reloaded my 9.2 and installed updates. Now I not only do not have any screen savers but the menus are almost completely empty. Some of the Start option menus are completely gone. I can not even get a terminal started. I have been fond of Mandrake but this is really a disappointment when it goes form bad to worse. If this is the state of Mandrake then new users will be turned away and never come back. I am not trying to put down Mandrake, but I am really starting to get feed up with the problems. Can somebody tell me what is going on? Thanks Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Packet writing to CDRW
On 29 Oct 2003 18:32:05 +1100 Mark Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Well since the announcement of the packet drivers and Mandrake, does > anyone know how the packet writing works in Mandrake 9.2, I mean it > would be really cool just to use a CDRW device as a removable drive > which can be written to on the fly. > > Cheers > Mark > Saved this link which someone used to good effect. http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/cdrw-hint.txt Are you ex Ericson NZ, Mark? I seem to recognise the name. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Verizon dsl
Daniel Anderson mused: > Hi, > This may be a bit off topic but it does involve Linux. I,m > considering > getting Verizon dsl, since it is now available in my area, and my > wireless connection is not reliable. I had a Verizon dialup > account once > for about three years, with no problems, until one day I could no > longer > connect to the mail servers unless I used windows. Are any of you > using > Verizon dsl, and if so are there any problems with using Linux? > Thanks, > Dan Not a problem here. I've been using Verizon for like 3-4 years without any problems to speak of. I use a hardware router and run a server, etc. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < "So in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec level 4
Bryan Phinney mused: > I would guess that something is either not configured correctly, > you have > installed some software that has changed the default settings, or > you are > hitting a different machine than you think you are hitting. I > have tried > this on my web server which is also set to msec level 4 and it > does NOT work. > Telnet connections are refused, just like SSH was initially until > I opened > that up using hosts.allow. > > It is possible that you have altered your hosts.deny file and the > cron job > that is supposed to change it back simply hasn't run yet, but it > should get > around to it. However, default at msec level 4 is to create a > hosts.deny > file that denies all. Until you explicitly allow connections in > hosts.allow > or remove hosts.deny, it should be refusing all connections. > -- > Bryan Phinney > Software Test Engineer Hmm... I´m going to have to do some more playing around. I´ll let you know what I broke ;) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨For we are God´s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.¨ Eph. 2:10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec level 4
Bill Mullen mused: > I don't run telnet (naturally ), but I'd guess that access to > it is > probably controlled by xinetd, rather than by /etc/hosts.allow. If > that's > the case, you'll have an /etc/xinetd.d/telnet[d] file where this > sort of > thing can be configured. After you've made any changes to that > file, the > xinetd service would need to be restarted, for those changes to > "take". Actually, I was just playing with my linux box earlier and found that I can indeed ssh into the server. When I had the trouble, I had been running Windows 2000 from the same box. Some background... I have several small hdd´s that a friend gave me (4G) which I use to configure different systems on so that I can get familiar with them. I loaded win2k on such a drive and put it in a pull out bay and booted the system. I just used the same static ip that the regular system uses ´cause I didn´t want to add another host to my server. This was fine except that the machine name was different. I added that to the hosts file on the server. Anyway, I assume that my original problem must have been that I didn´t identify the Windows box the same as the linux box (ip, machine name, fqdn). As far as the telnet-server - done ;) I actually hadn´t realized that I had the server part installed -- doh! > Be sure to "urpme telnet-server" sometime soon, though! ;) > > HTH! Yes! It does! Thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨For we are God´s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.¨ Eph. 2:10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] msec level 4
Good morning, I´ve got another msec question. I was working on a different computer on my lan and hadn´t put it´s id in my hosts file on my server yet. I was lazy and didn´t feel like getting on a system which had access (for ssh that is) so I was trying different toys to see which had access. I couldn´t get on user accounts using ftp, or ssh, etc, but then I tried telnet and got right in. I though, ´hmm, that´s odd...´ I´m also able to get in using my domain name - which I´m not able to do using ssh. I´m confused; why can I telnet get right in but ssh is blocked? I know the obvious answer - remove telnet from the server - but I would like more information about this before removing the symptom. Thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨For we are God´s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.¨ Eph. 2:10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] where are urpmi commands for 9.2?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:04:59 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Never mind. I found what I wanted (updates, plf, texstar), however, I > am presently running 9.1 and plan to wait for my 9.2 CDs before I > upgrade. Is there a way to use urpmi to download rpms without > installing them? I can save them with the --noclean option, of > course, but I do not necessarily want to install anything right now > because of dependency issues best solved by installing 9.2. > > praedor > Just find a mirror and FTP the updates to a directory of your choice. Easy URPMI should locate a mirror for updates for you. ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/ as an example. Suck everything in the directory except /SRPMS/ unless yuo plan to roll your own (all up, about 250MB and rising). gFTP is a reasonable GUI tool. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake releases bug fixes for MDK 9.2
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:20:29 -0400 Glenn Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:20, James Conner wrote: > > For those on the MDK security mailing list you will already know. > > For those that aren't, check the archives(it's too large to repost > > here). These updates fix quite a few of the bugs that have been > > troubling people lately. Glad to see that Mandrake is on top of > > this to release patches. Granted, it would have been nice to have > > flawless, bug-free release. :) > > > > Jim > > I've just looked at the update page, and I'm shocked to see how many > packages are affected by MDKA-2003:020 (about 60!!). That's got to be > a new record for a new release. For this many packages, and the > severity of some of the bugs, Mandrake would be wise to include these > new packages in their boxed sets, if they want folks to buy 9.3, or > whatever the next release is. It's bad enough that over 300mb of > fixes were posted against 9.1. > > This looks like a QA breakdown. > > It won't happen on the boxed sets, they have already been sent to press. I am hoping however that the download edition, when release to the rest of the world on mirors will include updated RPM's. This possibility has only come about because of the policy of releasing it on Mandrake Club first. It means that the faithfull that know how to update already, can update, and those that are new to Mandrake will get the "shinier" product. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake releases bug fixes for MDK 9.2
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 00:20:17 + James Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those on the MDK security mailing list you will already know. For > those that aren't, check the archives(it's too large to repost here). > These updates fix quite a few of the bugs that have been troubling > people lately. Glad to see that Mandrake is on top of this to release > patches. Granted, it would have been nice to have flawless, bug-free > release. :) > > Jim > -- > I'm wondering if the ISO's will be redone before the public release? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec???
Wow! Thanks for all the help Bryan! I´m going to go through the list and see what I can start implementing. Yeah, I do have a hardware router with port forwarding setup. I´m going to start playing with those other tools you mentioned. Thanks again -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don´t... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec???
Bryan Phinney mused: > Msec level 4 denies everything by default. Therefore, you must > explicitly > allow the things that you want to allow in the hosts.allow file. > This will > override the hosts.deny file so that anything that is not allowed > is denied. > > I had the same problem with my web server, once you understand > that the > default behavior is to deny, it makes perfect sense. Yeah, that makes sense. I was reading different posts on HOW to allow things though, and trying to find which way would stick which was confusing. I put ´All: All´ in my allow file just so I can make it work and I found a sample allow file on the web that I´m going to play with when I get home from work today. Since you´re running a web server, would you mind posting a copy of yours? (/etc/hosts.allow file, that is). I´ve got kind of an ´all-in-one´ type of server - I don´t really have the resources to split things up. I´m running apache, webmail (postfix, squirrelmail, etc), samba, ftp, ssh, blah; just pretty much everything - on the same box. It would be nice to setup a firewall (other than port fowarding on my router), get msec all hardened up, and make everything all secure - but I think I have too many things going to do that. Anyway, all suggestions excepted :) Thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don´t... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec???
Jack Coates mused: > Start by read the /usr/share/msec/perm.* files, then apply changes > to > /etc/security/perm.local. > > Next, did you know that all the msec stuff is in script? Read it, > quite > enlightening. /usr/sbin/msec is the wrapper that figures out what > to do, > then calls python and bash scripts that live in /usr/share/msec. > msec.py > is the really powerful one. Look out for password aging, for > instance > :-) The bad news is that IIRC some of this stuff is dependent on > kernel > patches like GRSecurity, and so msec is toggling kernel flags that > can > only be touched during bootup. Cool, Thanks Jack -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don´t... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] msec???
Ok, I´ve read all the posts I could find and it looks like no one has had any luck with msec? I´ve been doing fine forever at ´high´ security; now a friend from work is dogging me about making things more secure. Since he´s an m$ guy, I want to prove how much better *nix can do things and so I am off and ready to make that server of mine so secure that you can´t get ANYTHING done! Well, I´ve succeeded! I can´t get anything done! Ok, sorry ´bout that; now here´s my problem: When I go to msec level 4 - I can´t login to squirrelmail, use ssh, use ftp - I´m just about completely locked out. I´ve tried commenting out the line msec put in /etc/hosts.deny denying all, but it gets overwritten. I read a post about using chattr +i, but I´m using xfs so that´s no good. I tried adding ´authorize_services (all)´, but that didn´t help. I would really like to have secure level 4 or maybe even 5, but I need to be able to use my computer and I don´t know how to manually set the same environments without using msec. What can I do to fix this mess? I want the wheel group, etc. Thanks in advance! -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < There are 10 kinds of people in the world; those who understand binary, and those who don´t... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Why not use the default directories?
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:42:37 -0700 Rolf Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > > A general comment: Why doesn't Mandrake, when it's building a new > > version, does not use the default installation directories of each > > package? Because otherwise, when we reinstall it, we have a chance > > of ending up with two versions of the same files! -turgut > > > > - > > Turgut Kalfaoglu: http://www.kalfaoglu.com > > EgeNet Internet Services: http://www.egenet.com.tr > > > > Mandrake strives to conform to the Linux Standards Base and has been > LSB certified: > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/community/mandrakesoftnews/news?n=/mandrakesoft/products/2381 > > > The LSB specifies the Filesystem Hiearchy Standard as the authority > for where files go: > http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/refspecs/LSB_1.3.0/gLSB/gLSB/execenvfhs.html > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/index.html#TOC > > The standards allow for some options and are somewhat open to > interpretation. Different software authors might have different > interpretations, implement options differently, or lack compliance > with these standards. > > Rolf In other words, it's up to the package authors to come up to speed with the Linux Standard Base. Mandrake does a good job of squeezing any RPM's files into the right directories and where necessary makes links (/etc/rc3.d/ -> /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/). Any 3rd party package that does comply with LSB installs well in Mandrake (refer OO.o thread). -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DOS bootdisk??
Rob Blomquist mused: > Is there an image of a DOS boot disk that can be made under Linux > so that I > can flash my bios? Now of course, I could find a winders confuser > to do the > job, but hey, can it be done on a Linux box? > > I was just poking around and found www.bootdisk.com, now which > image should I > use to flash it? > > Rob > -- Hey Rob, I didn't hear back from you whether you wanted that file or not? I'll be home around 6:30 - 7:00 tonight - let me know, k? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen¨ Heb. 11:1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DOS bootdisk??
Rob Blomquist mused: > Is there an image of a DOS boot disk that can be made under Linux > so that I > can flash my bios? Now of course, I could find a winders confuser > to do the > job, but hey, can it be done on a Linux box? > > I was just poking around and found www.bootdisk.com, now which > image should I > use to flash it? > > Rob > -- I´ve got a boot image for you if you like -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary, and those that don´t¨ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Veritas Netbackup
I have Veritas Netbackup (master is a SUN Box) and am trying to get it to backup a Mandrake 9.0 client. Does anybody have any experience with this? The master (SUN) tries to install the client software on the Mandrake box, but get permission denied. I have tried adding the master server to /.rhosts /root/.rhosts and /etc/hosts.equiv and it still does not allow it. Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] thinkpad buttons; how to enable them?
Kwan Lowe mused: > It depends a lot on your particular window manager, but here is a > start: > Run xev in a terminal window to determine what the keycode > settings are > for the extra keys. > > Use these to populate your local .Xmodmap file to look like: > keycode 146 = XF86Mail > keycode 147 = XF86Search What about those usb keypads that you can attach to a laptop? Has anyone tried one under linux? -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary, and those that don´t¨ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
Jack Coates mused: [snip] > look at how little the growth is for XP, .NET extensions, all that > hype. > Win98 is being abandoned, but for Linux and Win2000. And look at > the > huge increase in Mozilla on Windows. That´s pretty cool! Maybe a trend? It´s amazing how many people I run into nowadays who´ve at least tried linux compared to a couple of years ago when no one knew what it was. Just about 5 years ago I was an m$ advocate and balked at mozilla - times sure change :) -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary, and those that don´t¨ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
HaywireMac mused: > > How would one configure Apache so that anyone using IE would be > met with > a "nice friendly message" that they are not welcome? This is REALLY easy. Here´s a link to read all about: http://www.devin.com/ieblock_howto.shtml Server side includes are probably the easiest way to do it; no need to even mess with apache (other than setting up the ability to use ssi´s. It´s been a common practice ever since the browser plugin wars. You write one page for the rest of the world and then a specific page for ie. You have to save your pages as .shtml and then make apache aware that you´re using shtml. -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com < ¨There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those that understand binary, and those that don´t¨ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
