[FairfieldLife] Re: Citigroup loan for learning TM

2006-07-13 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/12/06 6:02:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The  Maharishi School of the Age of Enlightenment in Fairfield, Iowa, 
   advises its students that they can take out a loan with
Citigroup. It 
   costs $2,500 to study transcendental meditation and loans can be 
   repaid over as long as 10 years at an interest rate of prime plus
1.50  
  percent. The prime rate is currently 8.25 percent. 
  
   _http://tinyurl.http://ti_ (http://tinyurl.com/rabjm) 
 
 The  first figure I tried sounded too high so I tried
 a second simple interest  calculator on the Web, and
 it says that after 10 years, taking advantage of  this
 deal would mean that learning TM only cost you  $4937.50.
 
 
 
 But certainly if you got a citigroup loan to learn TM you  should be
able to 
 add to that loan for Advanced techniques every year and a half  and get 
 siddhis .


Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 

Even better, an announcement similar to the following:


MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

Realizing that the last days of Kali Yuga are a real
bitch, Maharishi has accepted the sad fact that not 
all of his faithful followers are going to realize 
their enlightenment during this lifetime. Even though
this is their fault (not his, and not TM's), he has
established Maharishi (tm) Compassionate Banking 
Services, to make it easier for them to find the
True Path To Enlightenment in their next incarnation.

This is wisest of wise investments. Just look at how
much the cost of learning TM has risen since its
inception. If market costs force the price up (it's
certainly not *our* fault that the price keeps rising)
at the same rate they have risen in the last forty
years, it is estimated that by the time you reach the
age of 18 in your next incarnation, and go searching
for a TM teacher to continue your evolution along the
Highest Path, the cost of learning the basic TM tech-
nique will have risen to $200,000 US. 

Since an 18-year-old, no matter how propitious his or
her karma, is not likely to have a spare $200,000 
laying around, this presents a problem. How will you
be able to re-learn The Highest, Fastest, Most 
Effective Technique Of Meditation In The Universe
if you can't come up with the cash? You certainly
don't expect *US* to pay for it, do you? That would
be anti-evolutionary and contrary to the Laws Of
Nature.

Fortunately, with the announcement of Maharishi (tm)
TM (tm) Future Life Accounts, your problem is solved.
You just agree to put a minimum of $1000 per month
into your Future Life Account, and we take good care
of it for you, reserving it for your future use when
you (low-vibe slime that you are) reincarnate. And
the best part is that during all the intervening years
your money will be growing, earning interest at the
generous interest rate of 3.5%.

Do the math yourself and you'll see how great a deal
this is. You sign up for a Future Life Account now 
and deposit $1000 a month regularly. You wind up living
for another ten years, accumulating a principal of
$120,000. Then you die (experiencing the sting of a
thousand scorpions), and spent two years in the 
Bardo, followed by 18 years of painful, ignorant
growing up. Then, at age 18, you realize that you
want to continue your studies of meditation, and 
report to your local neighborhood Center For The
Best, Fastest, And All-Around Amazing Trancendental
Meditation Program For World Peace And Universal
Enlightenment, and there waiting for you in your
account is a big, fat $204,000.00. After certifying
that you are, in fact, the reincarnation of a Future
Life Account patron **, and after deducting our
reasonable processing fees, that means you only 
have to come up with a measly $54,000 out-of-pocket
to re-learn TM and continue on your merry way to
full enlightenment.

It's the deal of a lifetime. Or two. Sign up today!

** Naturally, we cannot allow just anyone to walk
   in off the street and claim to be a Future Life
   Account holder. So we are working on certifying
   Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers. For a
   reasonable fee, these trained counselors will
   sit in lotus, roll their eyes upwards, and use
   their TM-siddhi-fueled superpowers to access
   your past-life profile and determine whether
   you are, in fact, the reincarnation of your
   former self. You can trust our counselors to
   always be right about this, because when, after
   all, have we *not* been right about everything?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Blessed, W/Media Blisssssss

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Cashew
 Walnut
 Peanut
 Macadamia
 Pine
 Gimbel...

Hey, that does sound really good; icecream flavor, doesn't it?
But really sometimes, I just get these wierd inspirations:
To 'shake up the 'Status Quo'.
Somehow, I can't help it, when the urge comes to express this;
Sort of rebel without a cause...
But anyway, nothing personal to Bevan or anything like that:
I was just feeling that Maharishi gets information;
Edited my Bevan- in that he asked a question, about where is the best 
place to build a palace; it was a nonesense question;
As the real question would be to tell Maharishi, that the TM movement 
recieved a lot of negative attention, from buying the Kansas land and 
developement;
And wouldn't the money be spent better;
If the goal is to get good media attention;
I don't mean to pick on Bevan really;
Just kind of 'brain-storming'
If you really had a media savvy person running things...
Just thinking how robotic we are;
Like the whole thing, just seems so robotic at times.
Nothing personal
Nuts are good;
In our culture to be normal is cool, I guess;
In another culture, sometimes they are respected;
For having another view;
Or even channel, or dance or whatever.
So, homogenized our culture has become;
That anything out of the norm;
Is immediately attacked.
Sorry state of affairs, if you ask me.
R.G.  Madison,Wisconsin (Mad-Ciy)
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 
  In the last interview with Maharishi;
Bevan demonstrated once again;
His lack of taking responsibility;
For his tricks and trades;
Of misinformation to His Holiness, as Bevan likes to call him.
I will never understand how a 5 ft, Holy Man from India;
Who sat at the feet of Guru Dev;
This cute little guy; so loving and innocent;
Would put in charge, a heavyweight like The Bevy.
Bevan seems to be to me like one of those guy's from Chicago;
That you just don't mess with;
I remember my first meeting with him;
Was to receive the instructions of the Sutras of Pantajali;
Which at the time, Maharishi was charging quite a bit for, 
 embarrassing to remember the amount, in a way.
Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
 the 'middle' of a nation;
He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of 
 power;
And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my 
book.
My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
And sell to the highest bidder;
Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
And making a fortune doing it...
 
R.G.  Madison,WI.
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
  
   --- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
   wrote:
 snip
 On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  And Waking Down is also not for everyone (in
  fact, I'd say it's not for the vast majority
  of people). What bugs me, though, is that the
  TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a case
  of me being weak and unwilling.
 snip
Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
meditate all I want now.
Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had nothing to
do with it.
   
   No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
   because...because...well, just because!
  
  Whoever said or implied there was something wrong with Alex?
 
 Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)

We do?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
  About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in the 'middle' 
  of a nation;
  He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
  That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
  Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
  Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
  Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of 
  power;
  And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
  My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on EBAY;
  And sell to the highest bidder;
  Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
  At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
  And making a fortune doing it...
  
  R.G. Madison,WI.

Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
why Bevan has been around M so long, maybe he learned that quickly. That would 
not be his fault, it would be M's .
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[FairfieldLife] Re: For any of us who think that war is noble, or necessary...

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- MDixon6569 wrote:

 I wonder if Poland ever thought war was necessary.

The no appeasement camp always cites Hitler and 
1939 as the reason why we shouldn't appease aggressive 
dictators, but that school of thought neglects the true 
cause of World War II, which was World War I. And the 
lesson of World War I was, appeasement would have 
served Europe's purposes better than that war.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
  snip
  On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
   And Waking Down is also not for everyone (in
   fact, I'd say it's not for the vast majority
   of people). What bugs me, though, is that the
   TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a case
   of me being weak and unwilling.
  snip
 Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
 meditate all I want now.
 Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had nothing to
 do with it.

No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
because...because...well, just because!
   
   Whoever said or implied there was something wrong with Alex?
  
  Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)
 
 We do?

It's a 'Brahman thingy.' Those who feel that they
speak for the universe often have a tendency to 
refer to themselves as 'we.'  :-)

But even if it's true (I personally don't think it 
is, but I still refer to myself as 'I,' so that and 
a buck-fifty will get you a shitty cuppa java at 
Starbucks), paranoia has its virtues. As that great 
wit Anonymous once said, Paranoid schizophrenics 
outnumber their enemies at least two to one.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Did you know that there is no such thing as a Palestinian...

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/12/06 10:32:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  We have all been had!

Not all of us.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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The 
  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis will have 
  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically thieves, on 
  radically less square miles than today.

The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their 
young that all of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no 
business there. It's all or nothing for them. Those thieving Jews, hmmm, 
where have we heard that before?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Play -The Summer of Love/Maharishi/ 'The King of Mysticism'

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   THEATER  The summer of `Love' (Gay)
 A new production transports `Love's Labors Lost' to India in the 
swinging '60s   By PATRICK FOLLIARD 
snip
 When directing Shakespeare, Michael Kahn, longtime gay artistic 
director of the Shakespeare Theatre Company, refuses to play fast and 
loose with period settings.

FWIW, the best-bar-none production of a Shakespeare
play I've ever seen was directed by Michael Kahn--
Measure for Measure for the New York Shakespeare
Festival (outdoors in Central Park) in 1966.  It
featured a very young Christopher Walken as Claudio,
the romantic male lead, if you can imagine that!
Kahn is just a brilliant, brilliant director.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For any of us who think that war is noble, or necessa...

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 8:30:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- MDixon6569 wrote: I wonder if Poland ever thought war 
  was necessary.The "no appeasement" camp always cites Hitler and 
  1939 as the reason why we shouldn't appease aggressive dictators, but 
  that school of thought neglects the true cause of World War II, which was 
  World War I. And the lesson of World War I was, appeasement would have 
  served Europe's purposes better than that 
war.

Yes, and appeasement served Tibet well. Has appeasement served 
Israel at all?
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[FairfieldLife] nablus108 mentality

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely the message 
subject/topic in a rude manner. 
The original topic was Palestinians  terrorism  .  

Is it accustomed to do such on this MB ?  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion 
in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
terrorism.
The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; 
how sad.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 kabbalist1@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter 
   larry.potter@ wrote:
   


bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter 
larry.potter@ wrote:

 ( with regard to nablus108 ).
 
 I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have 
uterly 
lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose 
   terrible 
leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible 
murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and 
children. 
 
 I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy 
for 
  you.



http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8

 Aggression Under False Pretenses 
   
   
The aggression comes from the Palestinians side,
  To remind you, or to tell you, since you conveniently left 
  out, 
   that Palestinians murdered of 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri two 
and 
 a 
   half weeks ago.
  Including that Hamas terrorists firing rockets and mortar 
  bombs 
   for weeks. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of 
   Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and 
Sunday 
   morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was 
  wounded, 
   Israel officials said.
   
  Now, what would you think, USA will do (or any other 
country 
  for 
   that matter) if, let's say Mexico, will be constantly shooting 
   rockets on USA cities and civilians. I'm just curious to know, 
 how 
   USA will react in your opinion.
   
   
  http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?
   cid=1150885975162pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
   
   
  so, there is more to it than one soldier as Haniyeh is 
 falsely 
   trying to paint.
   
   
  snip

   Palestine is occupied by Israel, the land has been annected. 
They 
   are at war. 
  
  The other way around.
  
 It's always the other way around for the israelis. 
  
 Their logic is twisted and evil. 
 
 What you do not see is that Israel is fighting a lost war. When 
the 
 americans no longer are willing to pay for your criminal ways, and 
 this could happen fast, Israel will have to change it's militant 
and 
 aggressive attitude towards it's neighbours. 
 The Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis 
 will have their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically 
 thieves, on radically less square miles than today.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
 About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in the 
 'middle'  of a nation;
 He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
 That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
 Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
 Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
 Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
 power;
 And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
 My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
 And sell to the highest bidder;
 Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
 At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
 And making a fortune doing it...
  
 R.G.  Madison,WI.
 
 
 Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
 why Bevan has been around M so long, maybe he learned that 
 quickly. That would  not be his fault, it would be M's .

I'd have to agree with MDixon on this one. I remember
an incident in Mallorca. We were staying in hotels
along the ocean, meditating 10-12 hours a day, and
one of the adjacent hotels started doing construction
work that involved the use of dynamite. We complained
to the course leaders, who told us, over and over, 
Maharishi knows all about it; he's working on getting
the problem resolved. 

So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
Maharishi said, What dynamite?

After being told the story for the first time, he gave
the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad 
news like that.

Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
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--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
  snip
  On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
  
   And Waking Down is also not for everyone (in
   fact, I'd say it's not for the vast majority
   of people). What bugs me, though, is that the
   TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a case
   of me being weak and unwilling.
  snip
 Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
 meditate all I want now.
 Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had nothing to
 do with it.

No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
because...because...well, just because!
   
   Whoever said or implied there was something wrong with Alex?
  
  Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)
 
 We do?

'Cause you thought you were being told there was
something wrong with you (weak and unwilling) for
quitting TM.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] nablus108 mentality

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] nablus108  mentality





on 7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely the message 
subject/topic in a rude manner. 
The original topic was Palestinians  terrorism  . 

Is it accustomed to do such on this MB ? 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
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   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
wrote:
 --- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
 wrote:
   snip
   On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
   
And Waking Down is also not for everyone (in
fact, I'd say it's not for the vast majority
of people). What bugs me, though, is that the
TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a case
of me being weak and unwilling.
   snip
  Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
  meditate all I want now.
  Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had nothing to
  do with it.
 
 No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
 because...because...well, just because!

Whoever said or implied there was something wrong with Alex?
   
   Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)
  
  We do?
 
 It's a 'Brahman thingy.' Those who feel that they
 speak for the universe often have a tendency to 
 refer to themselves as 'we.'  :-)

No cigar, not even a nice try.

We, of course, referred to the readers of the thread.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
 About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
the 'middle'  of a 
 nation;
 He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
 That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
 Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
 Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
 Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
power;
 And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
 My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
 And sell to the highest bidder;
 Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
 At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
 And making a fortune doing it...
  
 R.G.  Madison,WI.
 
 
 
 Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is  why 
Bevan has 
 been around M so long, maybe he learned that quickly. That would  
not be his 
 fault, it would be M's .


Dixon,
I  concur with that, Bevan always seemed to me as a 'yes man' kind 
of guy, very loyal to Mahesh, loyal to his self intrest as well, i'm 
sure. :)
despite my criticism of him, i think he added stability to the 
movement in it's first phase, but maybe he should go now and let 
some real creative thinking to happen. one has to wonder.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'





on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
Maharishi said, What dynamite?

After being told the story for the first time, he gave
the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad 
news like that.

Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.

So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show to give the impression that he hadnt known, and that others were responsible.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Blessed, W/Media Blisssssss

2006-07-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Cashew
  Walnut
  Peanut
  Macadamia
  Pine
  Gimbel...
 
 Hey, that does sound really good; icecream flavor, doesn't it?
 But really sometimes, I just get these wierd inspirations:
 To 'shake up the 'Status Quo'.
 Somehow, I can't help it, when the urge comes to express this;
 Sort of rebel without a cause...
 But anyway, nothing personal to Bevan or anything like that:
 I was just feeling that Maharishi gets information;
 Edited my Bevan- in that he asked a question, about where is the 
best 
 place to build a palace; it was a nonesense question;
 As the real question would be to tell Maharishi, that the TM 
movement 
 recieved a lot of negative attention, from buying the Kansas land 
and 
 developement;



I only wish that MMY had a direct line to how regular TMers like 
myself and others on this forum feel today about the TMO.



 And wouldn't the money be spent better;
 If the goal is to get good media attention;
 I don't mean to pick on Bevan really;
 Just kind of 'brain-storming'
 If you really had a media savvy person running things...
 Just thinking how robotic we are;
 Like the whole thing, just seems so robotic at times.
 Nothing personal
 Nuts are good;
 In our culture to be normal is cool, I guess;
 In another culture, sometimes they are respected;
 For having another view;
 Or even channel, or dance or whatever.
 So, homogenized our culture has become;
 That anything out of the norm;
 Is immediately attacked.
 Sorry state of affairs, if you ask me.
 R.G.  Madison,Wisconsin (Mad-Ciy)
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
babajii_99@ 
  wrote:
  
   In the last interview with Maharishi;
 Bevan demonstrated once again;
 His lack of taking responsibility;
 For his tricks and trades;
 Of misinformation to His Holiness, as Bevan likes to call 
him.
 I will never understand how a 5 ft, Holy Man from India;
 Who sat at the feet of Guru Dev;
 This cute little guy; so loving and innocent;
 Would put in charge, a heavyweight like The Bevy.
 Bevan seems to be to me like one of those guy's from Chicago;
 That you just don't mess with;
 I remember my first meeting with him;
 Was to receive the instructions of the Sutras of Pantajali;
 Which at the time, Maharishi was charging quite a bit for, 
  embarrassing to remember the amount, in a way.
 Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
 About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
  the 'middle' of a nation;
 He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
 That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
 Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
 Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
 Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale 
of 
  power;
 And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my 
 book.
 My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
 And sell to the highest bidder;
 Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
 At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
 And making a fortune doing it...
  
 R.G.  Madison,WI.
   
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Blessed, W/Media Blisssssss

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Blessed, W/Media Blisss





on 7/13/06 9:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I only wish that MMY had a direct line to how regular TMers like 
myself and others on this forum feel today about the TMO.

He wouldnt care. He would regard you as out of tune with his thinking.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: For any of us who think that war is noble, or necessa...

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
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  I wonder if Poland ever thought war  was necessary.
 
 The no appeasement camp always cites Hitler and  
 1939 as the reason why we shouldn't appease aggressive 
 dictators, but  that school of thought neglects the true 
 cause of World War II, which was  World War I. And the 
 lesson of World War I was, appeasement would have  
 served Europe's purposes better than that  war.
 
 Yes, and appeasement served Tibet well. Has appeasement 
 served  Israel at all?

My point is not that appeasement is always good or 
bad, but rather that each situation must be evaluated 
on its merits. I'm not being persuaded by this reflexive 
tendency to say, this situation is just like in 1939 
against Hitler, because it never is. It doesn't help to
cite the lessons of World War II by forgetting those
of World War I.

If you'd like to hold forth on the lessons of Tibet and 
Israel, I'm willing to read them.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] nablus108 mentality

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 9:32:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  on 
  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely 
the message subject/topic in a rude manner. The original topic was 
"Palestinians  terrorism " . Is it accustomed to do such 
on this MB ? Often, threads 
  morph so that what’s being discussed bears no resemblance to the original 
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  the subject line. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 9:23:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After 
  being told the story for the first time, he gavethe course leaders a 
  public reaming for not telling himwhat was happening. Afterwards, I 
  happened to be stand-ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the 
  hotel,and heard him giving the aides who had traveled therewith him a 
  similar reaming, this time for *allowing*someone to stand up in one of his 
  talks and report bad news like that.

I think this kind of thing is much more common than most 
people have ever thought. M has always had a public image that is far 
different from what he actually practices in 
private.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 9:49:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:  In a message dated 7/12/06 
  9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. 
  writes:  Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of 
  Maharishi, About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
  the 'middle' of a  nation; He failed to tell Maharishi, in 
  his question to His Holiness: That the stupid publicity they got on 
  the Kansas of Oz deal; Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first 
  place. Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good 
  publicity: Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale 
  of power; And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in 
  my book. My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on 
  EBAY; And sell to the highest bidder; Besides Maharishi's eyes 
  will light up; At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev; And making a 
  fortune doing it...  R.G. Madison,WI.  
Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
  why Bevan has  been around M so long, maybe he learned that 
  quickly. That would not be his  fault, it would be M's 
  .Dixon,I concur with that, Bevan always seemed to me as a 
  'yes man' kind of guy, very loyal to Mahesh, loyal to his self intrest as 
  well, i'm sure. :)despite my criticism of him, i think he added 
  stability to the movement in it's first phase, but maybe he should go now 
  and let some real creative thinking to happen. one has to 
  wonder.

Perhaps he should, but M wouldn't want him to 
leave because he does just want M tells him to do. If it's not broken, 
don't fix it, at least from M's point of view any way. Besides, Bevan 
probably knows way too much about the inner workings of the TMO to take a chance 
on him pissing off.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

2006-07-13 Thread jyouells2000
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  Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 
 
 Even better, an announcement similar to the following:
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
  from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
  know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
  Maharishi said, What dynamite?
  
  After being told the story for the first time, he gave
  the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
  what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
  ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
  and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
  with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
  someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
  news like that.
  
  Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
  
 So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, 
 but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn¹t 
 known, and that others were responsible.

That would be a possibility, except that under
pressure the course leaders admitted they hadn't
told him because they didn't want to bother him
with petty details.

But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for 
the very reason you mention, to give the impression
that someone else had done what he himself had done
(kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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 The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis 
 will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically 
 thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
 
 
 
 The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  young that all 
 of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no  business 
 there. It's all or nothing for them. Those thieving Jews, hmmm,  where have 
 we 
 heard that before?


You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same thing? Dare I 
mention that 
international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its embassy there and 
the Israelis 
have claimed it as their capital for how long now?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion 
 in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
 The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
 terrorism.
 The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; 
 how sad.
 

So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the money we give 
THEM? If you 
don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead give money, 
every cent you 
give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

2006-07-13 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote:
 
  Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 
 
 Even better, an announcement similar to the following:
 
 
 MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS
 
 Realizing that the last days of Kali Yuga are a real
 bitch, Maharishi has accepted the sad fact that not 
 all of his faithful followers are going to realize 
 their enlightenment during this lifetime. Even though
 this is their fault (not his, and not TM's), he has
 established Maharishi (tm) Compassionate Banking 
 Services, to make it easier for them to find the
 True Path To Enlightenment in their next incarnation.
big snip  
 It's the deal of a lifetime. Or two. Sign up today!
 
 ** Naturally, we cannot allow just anyone to walk
in off the street and claim to be a Future Life
Account holder. So we are working on certifying
Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers. For a
reasonable fee, these trained counselors will
sit in lotus, roll their eyes upwards, and use
their TM-siddhi-fueled superpowers to access
your past-life profile and determine whether
you are, in fact, the reincarnation of your
former self. You can trust our counselors to
always be right about this, because when, after
all, have we *not* been right about everything?



Man, I almost missed this - whacky yahoo non-threading and all. 
Anyway,  LOL! 

Thanks, 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 mentality

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
thank you and Rick for the heads up.

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 on  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 
 nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely  the message 
 subject/topic in a rude manner. 
 The original topic was  Palestinians  terrorism  .  
 
 Is it accustomed to do such  on this MB ?  
 
 
 Often, threads  morph so that what’s being discussed bears no 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  babajii_99@ writes:
  
  Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
  About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in the 
  'middle'  of a nation;
  He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
  That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
  Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
  Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
  Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
  power;
  And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
  My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
  And sell to the highest bidder;
  Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
  At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
  And making a fortune doing it...
   
  R.G.  Madison,WI.
  
  
  Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
  why Bevan has been around M so long, maybe he learned that 
  quickly. That would  not be his fault, it would be M's .
 
 I'd have to agree with MDixon on this one. I remember
 an incident in Mallorca. We were staying in hotels
 along the ocean, meditating 10-12 hours a day, and
 one of the adjacent hotels started doing construction
 work that involved the use of dynamite. We complained
 to the course leaders, who told us, over and over, 
 Maharishi knows all about it; he's working on getting
 the problem resolved. 
 
 So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
 from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
 know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
 Maharishi said, What dynamite?
 
 After being told the story for the first time, he gave
 the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
 what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
 ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
 and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
 with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
 someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad 
 news like that.
 
 Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.


Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 9:58:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  So my guess is that he knew very well about the 
  dynamite, but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and 
  that others were responsible. 
   

Yes, he couldn't miss it. It was happening all over the place. 
Probably outside his own hotel as well. Majorca was a tourist resort for fun in 
the sun. M got great deals to rent these hotels during the off season when they 
would have sat virtually empty. The TMO provided jobs, and maintenance for the 
Hotels and Majorcans during a time that would have been very 
lean.
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[FairfieldLife] Dream Healer

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
This guy will be on ABC's Prime Time tonight. 10pm Eastern

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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 computer graphics

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 on  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 
 nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely  the message 
 subject/topic in a rude manner. 
 The original topic was  Palestinians  terrorism  .  
 
 Is it accustomed to do such  on this MB ?  
 
 
 Often, threads  morph so that what’s being discussed bears no resemblance 
 to 
 the original  discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we 
 recommend changing  the subject line. 
 
 
 And that morphing process can be rather quick at  times.


Yes it can. (See thread title).






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'





on 7/13/06 10:51 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.


Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?

If someone really cared, they could have thrown themselves on top of it just as it was exploding and sacrificed themselves for the other course participants. But NO

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
  from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
  know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
  Maharishi said, What dynamite?
  
  After being told the story for the first time, he gave
  the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
  what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
  ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
  and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
  with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
  someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
  news like that.
  
  Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
  
 So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
 to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
 responsible.


What would YOU have done?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  nablus108@ writes:
  
  The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the 
israelis 
  will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are 
basically 
  thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
  
  
  
  The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  
young that all 
  of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely 
no  business 
  there. It's all or nothing for them. Those thieving Jews, 
hmmm,  where have we 
  heard that before?
 
 
 You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same 
thing? Dare I mention that 
 international city, Jerusalem? 

that Israel is their rightful land, yes, and it is! (and also to 
share) but not to be a terrorist and glorify death and murder
as 'expert' Palestinians.

The USA STILL won't move its embassy there and the Israelis 
 have claimed it as their capital for how long now?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 kabbalist1@ 
wrote:
 
  Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 
billion 
  in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
  The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
  terrorism.
  The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational 
thinking; 
  how sad.
  
 
 So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the 
money we give THEM? If you 
 don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead 
give money, every cent you 
 give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount.


yes, under the circumstances Israel needs to put some money in order 
to defend itself. It's military had significant budgets cuts. Seeing 
the situation today, I'm not sure it was a smart move.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'





on 7/13/06 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for 
the very reason you mention, to give the impression
that someone else had done what he himself had done
(kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he 
threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel).

Partly, its an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. People interpreted this as his cosmic way of helping their evolution.

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[FairfieldLife] super radiance fw

2006-07-13 Thread kabbalist1
[ A FW message ]  

Dear Sidha and Governor Friends,


This past Tuesday, July 11th,  we hosted a lovely Guru Purnima 
Celebration as did all of the Maharishi Enlightenment Centers around 
the world in conjunction with the Grand Celebration with Maharishi 
in Holland.


During the Celebration, Maharhishi charged all of us to  attain the 
national super radiance number for each country and build peace 
colonies to accommodate the Yogic Flyers who wish to participate.  
There is a plan for 9 such colonies in the United States, 
accommodating 200 Yogic Flyers each to attain our super radiance 
number of 1730.

 

Locally we are encouraging all Yogic Flyers to participate in group 
program at the most convenient location for you.   As Governors and 
Sidhas we are all aware of the influence of our collective program 
and now is the time to come together, like a family, and bring peace 
to our nation and world.

 

We will be in touch very soon as the plans unfold and details 
refined, but for now there are 3 locations in Fairfield County where 
group program is available:

 

Greenwich Maharishi Enlightenment Center:  Our new office at 200 
Railroad has a proper vastu orientation which is a requirement for 
the group program location.  It is already established and we can 
start now.  There has been a dedicated group program for many years 
in Greenwich and you are very welcome, deeply encouraged to join 
us.  

 

Weston Maharishi Enlightenment Center/Nevas Vastu Home:  We can 
arrange for group program in this beautiful and nourishing home of 
Bernie and Terry Nevas.  

 

Greater Bridgeport:  We are locating a place for group program in 
the Fairfield/Bridgeport area, but for now we can gather at Kathy's 
house in Stratford which has the proper east orientation.   

 

To participate please call Kathy at either 203-629-2049 or 203-256-
9705 or you can respond to this email.

 

To get the latest news and inspiration, including Maharishi speaking 
each day, you can watch the ongoing planning sessions in Holland.  
You can access it by going to the Maharishi Channel site at: 
www.mou.org .  This site will also let you know when previous 
broadcasts of the Grand Celebration and past planning sessions are 
being broadcast.

You can also access the live broadcasts via www.globalcountry.org.


At the Grand Celebration on July 11th, Maharishi spoke briefly:

The world has been blessed for all these long years...today we are 
offering to Guru Dev...the supreme gift...of the Constitution of the 
Universe. The result has already started to be seen that the 
countries are beginning to loose their negativity and shortcomings.  
Already in one country, Holland, we see the sign of Invincibility.  
And this we offer to Guru Dev...Today, in offering all that we have, 
to the source of all that we have, we are really blessed...We offer 
to Guru Dev, all of our achievements, and all of our future 
achievements for the world--permanent peace on earth.

 
It is our joy and honor to participate in creating coherence for the 
world, peace on earth.
Please contact me for information on how we can all come together to 
do what we are blessed to do.  Thank you and I wish you all joy.
 
Jai Guru Dev
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 10:51 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
  
  Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?
  
 If someone really cared, they could have thrown themselves on 
 top of it just as it was exploding and sacrificed themselves 
 for the other course participants. But NO

It never really bothered me that much. They had 
these little compressed-air-powered horns that
they'd fire off three times before each blast
as a warning to the other workers. It was like:

  HONK!  HONK!  HONK!  . . .  B O O M ! ! !

I always thought it'd be fun if some worker
figured out that the adjoining hotels were full
of...uh...sensitive meditators and one day
they just let loose with the horns:

  HONK!  HONK!  HONK!  . . .  (nothing...no blast)

I'd betcha some people would have lost it 
heavily at that point.  :-)








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'





on 7/13/06 10:53 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
 to give the impression that he hadnt known, and that others were
 responsible.


What would YOU have done?

I would have told them that I knew about the dynamite (if I did) but that we had no control over the situation, so just bear with it.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 10:58:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their young that all 
   of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no 
  business  there. It's all or nothing for them. Those thieving 
  Jews, hmmm, where have we  heard that before?You think 
  that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same thing? Dare I mention that 
  international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its embassy there 
  and the Israelis have claimed it as their capital for how long 
  now?

But at least the Israelis are willing to live side by side 
with a Palestinian state in peace unlike thePalestinians. And the Arabs 
would still have Jerusalem had they not attacked Israel in hopes of driving them 
into the sea in 67. They would also have the West Bank andGolan Heights. 

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[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
   from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
   know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
   Maharishi said, What dynamite?
   
   After being told the story for the first time, he gave
   the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
   what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
   ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
   and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
   with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
   someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
   news like that.
   
   Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
   
  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
on a show
  to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
  responsible.
 
 
 What would YOU have done?

Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial
outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing
the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small
donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when
the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay damages
and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple
their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their
hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 

Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to
transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that
those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer
to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a
thrill of bubbling bliss. 

And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
long scramble for them and long waiting list.

Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around
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Re: [FairfieldLife] nablus108 mentality

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote:

on 7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely the message
subject/topic in a rude manner.
The original topic was Palestinians  terrorism  .

Is it accustomed to do such on this MB ?



Often, threads morph so that what¹s being discussed bears no resemblance to
the original discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we
recommend changing the subject line.

They really should start a new topic rather than just change the subject 
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[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
   from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
   know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
   Maharishi said, What dynamite?
   
   After being told the story for the first time, he gave
   the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
   what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
   ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
   and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
   with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
   someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
   news like that.
   
   Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
   
  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
on a show
  to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
  responsible.
 
 
 What would YOU have done?

Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial
outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing
the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small
donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when
the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay damages
and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple
their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their
hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 

Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to
transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that
those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer
to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a
thrill of bubbling bliss. 

And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
long scramble for them and long waiting list.

Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around
M.!!!








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 11:14:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nothing 
  was ever done about the dynamite.Of course, what COULD be done 
  about the dynamite?

On my course people complained about the dynamite and M 
arranged to open some other hotels about an hour away. I made the move and the 
next morning woke up to dynamite exploding outside of my window! I moved back 
two days later.
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[FairfieldLife] Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
subject 
 line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.

No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
viewing vehicle. 

But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  Rick Archer groups@ wrote:   on 7/13/06 8:34 
  AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com 
  wrote: So after a few weeks Maharishi showed 
  up, and someone   from the course stood up and asked, 
  "Maharishi, do you   know when something might be done about 
  the dynamiting?"   Maharishi said, "What dynamite?" 
   After being told the story for the first time, he 
  gave   the course leaders a public reaming for not telling 
  him   what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be 
  stand-   ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the 
  hotel,   and heard him giving the aides who had traveled 
  there   with him a similar reaming, this time for 
  *allowing*   someone to stand up in one of his talks and 
  report bad   news like that. 
   Nothing was ever done about the dynamite. 
  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but puton a 
  show  to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others 
  were  responsible.   What would YOU 
  have done?Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an 
  initialoutrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about 
  knowingthe governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a 
  smalldonation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then 
  whenthe construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay 
  "damages"and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with 
  tripletheir figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase 
  theirhours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 
  Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier 
  totranscending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And 
  thatthose with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and 
  closerto CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was 
  athrill of bubbling bliss. And then I would double the price the 
  nosiest rooms. And laugh at thelong scramble for them and long waiting 
  list.Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time 
  aroundM.!!!

Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it was 
because of the "Bombing", but it happened all the sudden in the middle of the 
Second TTC that year. There must have been some searching and negotiations going 
on for a while before the move was ever made.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But to 
  your point, I have personally seen Maharishilie his socks off to someone 
  (Charlie Lutes) for the very reason you mention, to give the 
  impressionthat someone else had done what he himself had done(kept 
  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a longtime, which pissed Charlie 
  off so much that he threw a tantrum and stormed out of the 
  hotel).

LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an 
hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus 
Christ!"
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Re: [FairfieldLife] super radiance fw

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 11:46:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is 
  our joy and honor to participate in creating coherence for the world, 
  peace on earth.Please contact me for information on how we can all come 
  together to do what we are blessed to do. Thank you and I wish you all 
  joy.

I wonder if the TMO has ever considered building low income 
housing for retired and low income meditaters, Sidhas and Governors to live 
together and do,program together. Of course rent would have to be three times 
the going rate per square foot and those Maharishi organic veggies would have to 
be three times the price of regular organic. If they could generate their own 
Maharishi electricity they could charge three times for that also. All for low 
income folks on SS.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/13/06 12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
 ,  sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
  
   on 7/13/06 8:34  AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   wrote:
   
So after a few weeks Maharishi showed  up, and someone
from the course stood up and asked,  Maharishi, do you
know when something might be done about  the dynamiting?
Maharishi said, What dynamite?
 
After being told the story for the first time, he  gave
the course leaders a public reaming for not telling  him
what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be  stand-
ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the  hotel,
and heard him giving the aides who had traveled  there
with him a similar reaming, this time for  *allowing*
someone to stand up in one of his talks and  report bad
news like that.

 Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.

So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
 on a  show
   to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others  were
   responsible.
  
  
  What would YOU  have done?
 
 Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an  initial
 outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about  knowing
 the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a  small
 donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then  when
 the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay  damages
 and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with  triple
 their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase  their
 hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done!  
 
 Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier  to
 transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And  that
 those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and  closer
 to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was  a
 thrill of bubbling bliss. 
 
 And then I would double the price the  nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
 long scramble for them and long waiting  list.
 
 Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time  around
 M.!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it was 
because of 
 the Bombing, but it happened all the sudden in the middle of the 
Second TTC 
 that year. There must have been some searching and negotiations
going  on for a 
 while before the move was ever made.


Hahaha. As if Fuiggi was quiet!!!







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj


On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:42 PM, new.morning wrote:Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages" and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! Have you ever considered going into sales?  Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a thrill of bubbling bliss. Have you ever considered going into MANTRA sales? :-)  And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the long scramble for them and long waiting list.You may have a future as a guru.  Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around M.!!! 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/13/06 12:44:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:  In a message dated 7/13/06 
  12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com 
  writes:--- In 
  _FairfieldLife@FairfieldLifFai_(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
   , "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote:   --- In 
  _FairfieldLife@FairfieldLifFai_  (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 
  7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED]pno_re_  
  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com) 
  wrote:   So after a few weeks 
  Maharishi showed up, and someonefrom the course stood 
  up and asked, "Maharishi, do youknow when something 
  might be done about the dynamiting?"Maharishi said, 
  "What dynamite?"After being 
  told the story for the first time, he gavethe course 
  leaders a public reaming for not telling himwhat was 
  happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-ing in 
  the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,and 
  heard him giving the aides who had traveled therewith 
  him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*someone 
  to stand up in one of his talks and report badnews 
  like that.Nothing was ever 
  done about the dynamite.   So my guess 
  is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a 
  show   to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that 
  others were   responsible.
What would YOU have done?  Firest, I would have 
  sued the construction companies for an initial outrageous sum. Then 
  held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing the governor, 
  disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small donation to the 
  local church for padre support and pressure. Then when the 
  construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages" and 
  reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple their 
  figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their hours of 
  blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done!   
  Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to 
  transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that 
  those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer 
  to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a 
  thrill of bubbling bliss.   And then I would double the price 
  the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the long scramble for them and long 
  waiting list.  Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your 
  courses and time around M.!!!   
  Actually M just moved the courses to 
  Italy. I can't say it was because of  the "Bombing", but it 
  happened all the sudden in the middle of the Second TTC  that 
  year. There must have been some searching and negotiationsgoing on for a 
   while before the move was ever made.Hahaha. As if 
  Fuiggi was quiet!!!

No, Fuiggi wasn't quiet , but Rome was just a couple hours 
away by train!
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[FairfieldLife] Morning Kabbalah Reading

2006-07-13 Thread Kenny H
Good morning brethren!

This comes from a book on Nursing that I am doing some work for:

According to one of the central figures of Kabbalah, Rabbi Isaac Luria
(1534–1572) held that during creation, the vessels containing the
light of creation shattered, and the light became concealed as holy
sparks. Every particle and being in our physical universe contains
sparks of holiness. Our task, according to Luria, is to release each
spark from the shell and raise it up to return to its original state.
The sparks are raised through acts of loving kindness, of being in
harmony with the universe, and through higher awareness






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

They really should start a new topic rather than just change the


subject 
  

line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.



No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
viewing vehicle. 

But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)

Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll get 
bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
might know a little about how these things work.  I've mentioned the 
thread hijacking many times before on this list.   And it didn't meet 
with much enthusiasm then either.  Some of the other programmers felt it 
was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the topic 
changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
remember which one they are using for this group.  I remember mine.   So 
they just do a reply and then change the subject.

As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 new.morning wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
 
 They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
 
 
 subject 
   
 
 line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
 
 
 
 No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
 don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
 to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
 viewing vehicle. 
 
 But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
 yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
 

 Wrong.  

First time in four minutes.

Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 

Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

 and you'll get 
 bashed for it on other lists. 

Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
 and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
 might know a little about how these things work.  

Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

I've mentioned the 
 thread hijacking many times before on this list.   

Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

 And it didn't meet 
 with much enthusiasm then either.  

Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.


Some of the other programmers felt it 
 was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
topic 
 changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
 remember which one they are using for this group. 

They mush not be too smart. 

 I remember mine.   

Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

So 
 they just do a reply and then change the subject.

Stupid pissants!
 
 As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.

Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
 get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
 long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.

I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
heard the term thread hijacking except from
you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 new.morning wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
 
 They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
 
 
 subject 
   
 
 line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
 
 
 
 No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
 don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
 to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
 viewing vehicle. 
 
 But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
 yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
 

 Wrong.  

First time in four minutes.

Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 

Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

 and you'll get 
 bashed for it on other lists. 

Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
 and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
 might know a little about how these things work.  

Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

I've mentioned the 
 thread hijacking many times before on this list.   

Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

 And it didn't meet 
 with much enthusiasm then either.  

Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.


Some of the other programmers felt it 
 was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
topic 
 changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
 remember which one they are using for this group. 

They mush not be too smart. 

 I remember mine.   

Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

So 
 they just do a reply and then change the subject.

Stupid pissants!
 
 As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.

Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 snip
  Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
  get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
  20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
  long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
 
 I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
 in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
 and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
 heard the term thread hijacking except from
 you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

But clearly you, and especially me, are not one of the beautiful
people. Not one of the elites.  But thankfully there are people like
us so the clearly beautiful people can look down on us pissants and
finally feel really good about themselves. Its a good thing. More
happiness for all.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel terrorism The LAND Palistine transjorden etc

2006-07-13 Thread WLeed3





The area of the Ottoman empire known as Palestine is now 
presently 2006 divided. Becoming the British mandate under the League of Nations 
it was divided in 1922. In that year 77% of the mandates land mass was carved 
out  given to the Arabs -- Palestinians to have as  for their own land 
 country. Today this area is know as Jordan. The remainder of the lands 
were intended by the mandate league to be  become a homeland for 
the Jews. The Jews were then  always quite agreeable to the Arabs having 
there own nation on part of the land ( mandated lands). The remainder of 
Palestine was intended as a homeland for the Jews. the purpose for creating ( 
then called transjordan was to," establish a Jewish national home land west of 
the Jordan river  a separate Palestine entity in the Palestine east of the 
Jordan River. I note as an aside Winston Churchill often spoke wrote 
of these purposes. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Rick Archer wrote:
 
 Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
 yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
 then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. 

I recall a tape on my teacher training course in which 
MMY talked about culturing God Consciousness via 
devotion. He talked about the role of marriage in 
helping that process along. In the course of his 
discourse, he said to never say no to your spouse. 
He said to always say yes, even if you have to say 
no later. That advice struck me as troublesome 
even before I learned the importance of being 
impeccable with one's word. I felt that changing 
one's mind would present even greater problems, 
and I still feel so today. But it makes sense in the 
cultural context described above.

The Western variation seems to be to say yes 
when one definitely means yes, and maybe 
when one would rather not say yes.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 The Western variation seems to be to say yes 
 when one definitely means yes, and maybe 
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Soon is another good one.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj


On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll  get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over  20 years and have been using email and online clients for that  long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups, and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never heard the term "thread hijacking" except from you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make comments or even bump people. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  snip
  Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll
  get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
over
  20 years and have been using email and online clients for that
  long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
 
  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
  in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
  and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
  heard the term thread hijacking except from
  you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
 I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net  
 and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules  
 about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make
 comments or even bump people.

Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what thread
hijacking is, so he can preserve his image as someone
who has privileged knowledge.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion 
 in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
 The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
 terrorism.
 The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; 
 how sad.
 

***

How droll. The U.S. gives Israel billions every year so they can buy  
the most advanced weapons in order to suppress the Palestinians, and 
that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of cost to U.S. citizens:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel terrorism

2006-07-13 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  nablus108@ writes:
  
  The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the 
israelis 
  will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are 
basically 
  thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
  
  
  
  The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  
young that all 
  of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely 
no  business 
  there. It's all or nothing for them. Those thieving Jews, 
hmmm,  where have we 
  heard that before?
 
 


 You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same 
thing? Dare I mention that 
 international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its 
embassy there and the Israelis 
 have claimed it as their capital for how long now?



Jerusalem; note - Israel proclaimed Jerusalem as its capital in 
1950, but the US, like nearly all other countries, maintains its 
Embassy in Tel Aviv 
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[FairfieldLife] Non-ru scientist on his preference for TM study

2006-07-13 Thread bob_brigante
From: US Peace Government


Quote by Dr Noel Bairey Merz about the selection of the TM 
techniquein medical research


Thought you would appreciate this statement by a non-meditating 
researcher about why the TM technique was chosen for their federally-
funded research study. This quote appeared last week in one of the 
many articles published on the release of new NIH-funded research on 
TM and heart disease.

-
---

Transcendental Meditation is one of the techniques that has been 
studied the most, and the most rigorously, in randomized controlled 
trials. ...We chose Transcendental Meditation because it's highly 
protocolized and standardized, whereas many of the others aren't. 
For instance, Transcendental Meditation is trademarked; you have to 
be a certified instructor to teach it. The other reason we selected 
TM was that there were prior studies that suggested a very 
consistent physiological response on blood pressure.
Dr Noel Bairey Merz, researcher, Cedars-Sinai Research Institute, 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
  lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for
  the very reason you mention, to give the impression
  that someone else had done what he himself had done
  (kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
  time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he
  threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel).
  
 Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
 yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
 then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. People
 interpreted this as his cosmic way of helping their evolution.


Indians are all very cosmic, obviously.


Japanese are even worse. You CANNOT say no in polite Japanese. Japanese 
engineers 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 10:53 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a 
   show
   to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
   responsible.
  
  
  What would YOU have done?
  
 I would have told them that I knew about the dynamite (if I did) but that we
 had no control over the situation, so just bear with it.


Perhaps that was the issue: the illusion of control...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- Rick Archer wrote:
  
  Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
  yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
  then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. 
 
 I recall a tape on my teacher training course in which 
 MMY talked about culturing God Consciousness via 
 devotion. He talked about the role of marriage in 
 helping that process along. In the course of his 
 discourse, he said to never say no to your spouse. 
 He said to always say yes, even if you have to say 
 no later. That advice struck me as troublesome 
 even before I learned the importance of being 
 impeccable with one's word. I felt that changing 
 one's mind would present even greater problems, 
 and I still feel so today. But it makes sense in the 
 cultural context described above.
 
 The Western variation seems to be to say yes 
 when one definitely means yes, and maybe 
 when one would rather not say yes.


Robert Heinlein, a well-known Western writer, once said: in a martial argument, 
if you 
discover you are correct, apologize immediately.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 computer graphics

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 7/13/06 9:32:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  groups@ writes:
  
  on  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at kabbalist1@ wrote: 
  
  
  nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely  the message 
  subject/topic in a rude manner. 
  The original topic was  Palestinians  terrorism  .  
  
  Is it accustomed to do such  on this MB ?  
  
  
  Often, threads  morph so that what’s being discussed bears no resemblance 
  to 
  the original  discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we 
  recommend changing  the subject line. 
  
  
  And that morphing process can be rather quick at  times.
 
 
 Yes it can. (See thread title).


LOL Apparently the Yahoo editor does't allow you to change thread titles. At 
least my title 
doesn't show up as title of the thread, but only with an RE: inside the 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-ru scientist on his preference for TM study

2006-07-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: US Peace Government
 
 
 Quote by Dr Noel Bairey Merz about the selection of the TM 
 techniquein medical research
 
 
 Thought you would appreciate this statement by a non-meditating 
 researcher about why the TM technique was chosen for their federally-
 funded research study. This quote appeared last week in one of the 
 many articles published on the release of new NIH-funded research on 
 TM and heart disease.
 
 -
 ---
 
 Transcendental Meditation is one of the techniques that has been 
 studied the most, and the most rigorously, in randomized controlled 
 trials. ...We chose Transcendental Meditation because it's highly 
 protocolized and standardized, whereas many of the others aren't. 
 For instance, Transcendental Meditation is trademarked; you have to 
 be a certified instructor to teach it. The other reason we selected 
 TM was that there were prior studies that suggested a very 
 consistent physiological response on blood pressure.
 Dr Noel Bairey Merz, researcher, Cedars-Sinai Research Institute, 
 Los Angeles, CA;  Professor of Medicine, UCLA Medical School.


Including studies that compared the effects of TM and other relaxation 
techniques, 
including Benson's Relaxation Response, that found that TM had more effect on 
BP. Said 
studies were performed by teams of TMing and non-TMing meditators, BTW.

If you're going to study the effect of only one form of relaxation, you might 
as well use the 
one with the most proven effect. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up to find 
no effect, 
which is a scientific no-no, although many skeptical researchers indulge in 
variations of 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  

Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.



I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
heard the term thread hijacking except from
you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else except 
Yahoo Groups.  It may not be apparent unless you are using an email 
client.  What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an 
existing message and just changing the subject line.  I've mentioned 
this before here particularly last year and got mocked for bringing it 
up (anywhere else you may get mocked for doing it).  But the person whom 
I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that would be 
considered a thread hijacking.  I think that doing that should actually 
create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo database 
system can't handle that.  Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers 
to keep the thread order.  I'm sure there were many CF's in the Yahoo 
boardroom over this.  :)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 But to  your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
 lie his socks off to someone  (Charlie Lutes) for 
 the very reason you mention, to give the  impression
 that someone else had done what he himself had done
 (kept  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
 time, which pissed Charlie  off so much that he 
 threw a tantrum and stormed out of the  hotel).
 
 LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an  
 hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for 
 Jesus  Christ!

Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at
the hotel room door that night. I told the folks
inside that Charlie was there, and watched them
tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so,
and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, 
because I was the door guy, I was the one who 
Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping 
him out: They never told me. They told him.

It was just a game, and I got caught in the middle
of it. Shit happens.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

new.morning wrote:



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 

  

They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
   



subject 
 

  

line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
   



No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
viewing vehicle. 

But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)

  


  

Wrong.  



First time in four minutes.

  

Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 



Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

  

and you'll get 
bashed for it on other lists. 



Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

  

 I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
might know a little about how these things work.  



Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

  

I've mentioned the 
thread hijacking many times before on this list.   



Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

  

And it didn't meet 
with much enthusiasm then either.  



Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.


  

Some of the other programmers felt it 
was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the


topic 
  

changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
remember which one they are using for this group. 



They mush not be too smart. 

  

I remember mine.   



Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

  

So 
they just do a reply and then change the subject.



Stupid pissants!
 
  

As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.



Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.

Or you have one helluva inferiority complex.   I only mentioned my 
programming background because you inferred I didn't understand the 
technology.  I would be remiss if I didn't inform you otherwise.  As far 
as being condescending the original comment was meant to be a jibe.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj


On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for  over 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups, and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never heard the term "thread hijacking" except from you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.  I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net   and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules   about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make comments or even bump people.  Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what "thread hijacking" is, so he can preserve his image as someone who has privileged knowledge.  Really quite amazing. It's already been explained here numerous times (even though many probably knew already). The only amazing thing is your wild conclusions! 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

 Man, I almost missed this - whacky yahoo non-threading and 
 all.  Anyway, LOL! 

It was just a wild-hair-up-your-ass idea this 
morning over coffee. Glad you enjoyed it.

But isn't it fascinating to consider that there
are people in the world we know who would Go
For It, if offered with similar language and
similar interest rates?

 PS. Currently working on my recertification as a 
 Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers  :)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu

Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to the 
original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and subject to 
fifty lashes.  :)

new.morning wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

new.morning wrote:



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 

  

They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
   



subject 
 

  

line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
   



No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
viewing vehicle. 

But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)

  


  

Wrong.  



First time in four minutes.

  

Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 



Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

  

and you'll get 
bashed for it on other lists. 



Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

  

 I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
might know a little about how these things work.  



Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

  

I've mentioned the 
thread hijacking many times before on this list.   



Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

  

And it didn't meet 
with much enthusiasm then either.  



Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.


  

Some of the other programmers felt it 
was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the


topic 
  

changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
remember which one they are using for this group. 



They mush not be too smart. 

  

I remember mine.   



Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

  

So 
they just do a reply and then change the subject.



Stupid pissants!
 
  

As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.



Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.  





  




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You CANNOT say no in polite Japanese. Japanese engineers 
 converse in English to get around this issue.

Is this inability to say no a function of the 
social hierarchy? For instance, I can't say no 
because only someone of higher rank would 
request something of me, and I cannot refuse 
someone who outranks me. That sort of scenario.

I'm told a big part of Japanese communication 
is determining where one ranks in relation to 
others, for one's rank determines which forms 
of speech one uses. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it 
  was because of the Bombing, but it happened all the sudden 
  in the middle of the Second TTC that year. There must have 
  been some searching and negotiations going  on for a 
  while before the move was ever made.
 
 Hahaha. As if Fuiggi was quiet!!!

Tell me about it. :-)

Remember the Fiats buzzing around with bullhorns on 
the top of them, spouting slogans in Italian at all
hours of the night and day? (During Italian elections,
each of the (seemingly) 108 parties has its Fiat and
its bullhorns, and they drone on all day and all night.)

I used to have meditation fantasies of dressing up in
blackface makeup and a black watch cap, WWII commando
style, and sneaking down to the roadside, waiting for
one of these Fiats to come by, and lobbing my grenade
at it. I remember the wave of bliss that overcame me
each time I saw one of them explode in my fantasies. :-)

Interestingly enough (karmically), it was shortly after
this that I experienced my first 24/7 witnessing periods.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam
Didn't all the teacher training courses have blasting 
in the vicinity? Mine did. I thought it was a requirement 
of the course.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
  from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
  know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
  Maharishi said, What dynamite?
  
  After being told the story for the first time, he gave
  the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
  what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
  ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
  and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
  with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
  someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
  news like that.
  
  Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
  
 So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
 to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 new.morning wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
 
 new.morning wrote:
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
 
   
 
 They really should start a new topic rather than just change the

 
 
 
 subject 
  
 
   
 
 line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.

 
 
 
 No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
 don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in
order
 to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
 viewing vehicle. 
 
 But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
 yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
 
   
 
 
   
 
 Wrong.  
 
 
 
 First time in four minutes.
 
   
 
 Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
 
 
 
 Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
 
   
 
 and you'll get 
 bashed for it on other lists. 
 
 
 
 Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
 
   
 
  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
 and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I
think I 
 might know a little about how these things work.  
 
 
 
 Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
 
   
 
 I've mentioned the 
 thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
 
 
 
 Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
 better kind of person. 
 
   
 
 And it didn't meet 
 with much enthusiasm then either.  
 
 
 
 Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
 imagine why.
 
 
   
 
 Some of the other programmers felt it 
 was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
 
 
 topic 
   
 
 changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
 remember which one they are using for this group. 
 
 
 
 They mush not be too smart. 
 
   
 
 I remember mine.   
 
 
 
 Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
 fine people.
 
   
 
 So 
 they just do a reply and then change the subject.
 
 
 
 Stupid pissants!
  
   
 
 As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception,
newmo.
 
 
 
 Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
 that already.
 
 Or you have one helluva inferiority complex.  

Oh my. That MUST be the case. its the only possible answer.

 I only mentioned my 
 programming background because you inferred I didn't understand the 
 technology.  

I never inferred such. I didn't even imply it. Perhaps you inferred
it. Your ego being so polished and immune to any perceived slights.

I would be remiss if I didn't inform you otherwise.  

Oh yes, I think we all admire your politeness.

As far 
 as being condescending the original comment was meant to be a jibe.

And yet you are blind to returning jibes? Oh it must just be the
sunlight and you didn't read it right. I am sure a man of your great
wit (half man, half wit) got the jibe.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  

Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.



I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
heard the term thread hijacking except from
you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

Here's more on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to
the 
 original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and
subject to 
 fifty lashes.  :)


I am glad you noticed the nice touch.



 new.morning wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
 
 new.morning wrote:
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  
 
   
 
 They really should start a new topic rather than just change the

 
 
 
 subject 
  
 
   
 
 line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.

 
 
 
 No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
 don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in
order
 to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
 viewing vehicle. 
 
 But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
 yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
 
   
 
 
   
 
 Wrong.  
 
 
 
 First time in four minutes.
 
   
 
 Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
 
 
 
 Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
 
   
 
 and you'll get 
 bashed for it on other lists. 
 
 
 
 Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
 
   
 
  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
 and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I
think I 
 might know a little about how these things work.  
 
 
 
 Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
 
   
 
 I've mentioned the 
 thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
 
 
 
 Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
 better kind of person. 
 
   
 
 And it didn't meet 
 with much enthusiasm then either.  
 
 
 
 Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
 imagine why.
 
 
   
 
 Some of the other programmers felt it 
 was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
 
 
 topic 
   
 
 changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
 remember which one they are using for this group. 
 
 
 
 They mush not be too smart. 
 
   
 
 I remember mine.   
 
 
 
 Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
 fine people.
 
   
 
 So 
 they just do a reply and then change the subject.
 
 
 
 Stupid pissants!
  
   
 
 As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception,
newmo.
 
 
 
 Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
 that already.  
 
 
 
 
 
   
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Fruedian Slip?)

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
 
  In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  But to  your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
  lie his socks off to someone  (Charlie Lutes) for 
  the very reason you mention, to give the  impression
  that someone else had done what he himself had done
  (kept  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
  time, which pissed Charlie  off so much that he 
  threw a tantrum and stormed out of the  hotel).
  
  LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like Maharishi, an  
  hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for 
  Jesus  Christ!
 
 Yup, almost word for word. I was the door guy at
 the hotel room door that night. I told the folks
 inside that Charlie was there, and watched them
 tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so,
 and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, 
 because I was the door guy, I was the one who 
 Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping 
 him out: They never told me. They told him.
 
 It was just a game, and I got caught in the middle
 of it. Shit happens.

Well, to go one step further, I will get Freudian here, so please 
forgive me:
Suppose Maharishi, really hates the British, a lot. This is obvious, 
by his recent comments and actions, against the Brits.
This I am sure goes back the childhood, when the British owned and 
ruled India, cause Gandhi, to be the Martin Luther King of the Indian 
people, to throw off the British rule;
So, it is obvious that any Indian person would have a love/hate 
relatinship with the British:
Love because of the language and the orderliness of the Brits.
And hate of being treated like second class citizens and being ruled 
by a foriegn force.
So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he rules the 
Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his perfect speaking large 
form, long winded Bevan, the Prime Minister(English term) of 
Maharishi Land; 
And to get really Fruedian:
Suppose Maharishi's repressed sexual desires; and various accounts of 
stifled attempt in expressing his enormous love and senuality to a 
woman;
Well so, in this way the stifled sexualiy is expressed perfectly in 
Bevan: as the frustrated baffoon, of the movement, who helps to keep 
the illusion going, for Mahesh, that he's doing a good job.
Like Bush in a way:
Telling Rummy, 'Great job, Rummy;
or like:
So, in a way, perhaps was so pissed with King George II(President 
Bush),
That he saw his own dark side of in him in some way...








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread Peter


--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
 sparaig@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 drpetersutphen@ wrote:
   
   
--- Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
  snip
  On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley
 wrote:
  
   And Waking Down is also not for everyone
 (in
   fact, I'd say it's not for the vast
 majority
   of people). What bugs me, though, is
 that the
   TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a
 case
   of me being weak and unwilling.
  snip
 Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
 meditate all I want now.
 Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had
 nothing to
 do with it.

No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
because...because...well, just because!
   
   Whoever said or implied there was something
 wrong with Alex?
  
  Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)
 
 We do?

Stop making fun of me!



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Operation Apocalypse?

2006-07-13 Thread Bhairitu
Anyone else wonder if the current brew-ha-ha in the Middle East has been 
in the planning for months and is going according to schedule?  Keep 
those eyes wide open!



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
 About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
the 'middle'  of a 
 nation;
 He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
 That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
 Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
 Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
 Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
power;
 And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
 My idea, is to auction of the Prime Ministership on EBAY;
 And sell to the highest bidder;
 Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
 At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
 And making a fortune doing it...
  
 R.G.  Madison,WI.
 
 
 
 Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is  why 
Bevan has 
 been around M so long, maybe he learned that quickly. That would  
not be his 
 fault, it would be M's .

I completely understand this on a very personal level:
To me from my experience, and my interest in astrology,
My ex-wife, Christine's birthday is Jan. 14th;
And my son, Jeff, was born Jan. 16th; right after the 'Taste of 
Utopia Course' in 1984, in Fairfield.
My son in particular does not like to hear anything that is not what 
he wants to hear; he is very self-determined not to take any one 
else's opinion on what he should be doing;
He has always been like this as a child and only get's stronger in 
his self-determination, as he gets older.
Capricorn is the 'final earth sign';
So, I guess they like to prescribe their own reality;
Of their life, and their real estate, and what they stand for;
And do not take critisism well, or want your opinion.

But, the main point, is to be a help to any leader;
Like Maharishi, or Martin Luther King, also a Capricorn;
That they do need someone, to tell them the truth;
Whether they wish to hear it or not.
Then that genuniely helps, because you can't rule, efficiently;
When you don't have the truth;
Another perfect example of this is King George II;
Although his shit is much deeper...








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 snip
 
 Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
 get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
 over 
 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
 long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
 
 I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
 in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
 and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
 heard the term thread hijacking except from
 you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
 Here's more on the subject:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking

I don't really give a shit about threading, period,
since I've discovered that it's more fun for me to
read forums such as this one in strict chronological 
order than it is to read them 'threaded.'

But, that said, doesn't the following definition 
from Wikipedia...

@   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
@   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
@   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
@   
@   While this can be an intentional act of trolling, 
@   it is often accidental - caused by other participants 
@   in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, 
@   taking the thread off at a tangent to the original 
@   subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
@   often extract a feeling of resentment from the author 
@   of the post.

...sound a lot like EGO to you?  :-)

I mean, somebody introduces a concept and then gets
uptight when someone takes the concept off in directions
he or she didn't intend? I'm picturing Aretha Franklin
singing, A  T  T  A  C  H  M  E  N  T.

:-)

What you're complaining about with Thunderbird, by the
way, is a limitation of ITS software. It was designed
with certain protocols in mind, as if they were standards.
They weren't.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
 
  On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
snip
  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
  in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
  and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
  heard the term thread hijacking except from
  you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
  I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the
  net and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have 
  rules about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and 
  make comments or even bump people.
 
  Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what thread
  hijacking is, so he can preserve his image as someone
  who has privileged knowledge.
 
  Really quite amazing.
 
 It's already been explained here numerous times (even though many  
 probably knew already). The only amazing thing is your wild  
 conclusions!

No, Vaj.  Your reading comprehension seems to be
deteriorating.  Read what I wrote above again, and
see if you can figure out where you went wrong.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
  from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
  know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
  Maharishi said, What dynamite?
  
  After being told the story for the first time, he gave
  the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
  what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
  ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
  and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
  with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
  someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
  news like that.
  
  Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
  
 So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put 
on a show
 to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
 responsible.

No, my guess is that it is like an incompetent corporation;
When you get to a certain level, it becomes like a corporation;
And takes on the weaknesses of the corporate structure;
No takes responsibility; no one wants to be the one to approach 
Maharishi with 'bad news'.. so, it just slides on for the next day;
Or nobody on staff, was familiar on how to contact the right people;
Who were in charge of the building there;
or perhaps the rented the building cheap, because of the on-going 
constuction going on there, at the time.
It's like King George II, with Katrina or Iraq.
Just an incompetent staff, with no one to take responsibity;
And living in a sort of altered reality.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to 
 the original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and 
 subject to fifty lashes.  :)

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's deserving of
the label thread hijacking.  It's the same thread.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
   from the course stood up and asked, Maharishi, do you
   know when something might be done about the dynamiting?
   Maharishi said, What dynamite?
   
   After being told the story for the first time, he gave
   the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
   what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
   ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
   and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
   with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
   someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
   news like that.
   
   Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
   
  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put 
on a show
  to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
  responsible.
 
 
 What would YOU have done?

I would have used the principle of 'highest first', and found out who 
was ultimately in charge of the blasting; and what options would be 
open to us; if they could postpone the blasting or not;
And if they told me there was no way to stop it since they were on a 
schedule;
Then I would have been honest with the course participants and 
Maharishi, and made a group decision, based on assets, and other 
varibles, to there would be a group effort and responsiblity taken.
And not dependent on Maharishi, taking care of everything, or doing 
nothing to resolve the problem..







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  snip
  
  Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and 
you'll 
  get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
  over 
  20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
  long.  I think I might know a little about how these things 
work.
  
  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
  in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
  and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
  heard the term thread hijacking except from
  you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
  
  Here's more on the subject:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking
 
 I don't really give a shit about threading, period,
 since I've discovered that it's more fun for me to
 read forums such as this one in strict chronological 
 order than it is to read them 'threaded.'

That's what I've always done (starting from my BBSing
days, when there were no such things as threads
anyway).

It *is* useful to be able to trace a thread back,
though, on occasion, so I'm all for threading, but
in a tree structure where the subthreads branch
off but you can trace them back to the main thread.

 But, that said, doesn't the following definition 
 from Wikipedia...
 
 @   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
 @   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
 @   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
 @   
 @   While this can be an intentional act of trolling, 
 @   it is often accidental - caused by other participants 
 @   in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, 
 @   taking the thread off at a tangent to the original 
 @   subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
 @   often extract a feeling of resentment from the author 
 @   of the post.
 
 ...sound a lot like EGO to you?  :-)

I agree with Barry here.  Half the fun of these
discussions is the odd directions they take.
Sometimes a subthread that takes a small piece of
the original discussion off on a tangent will turn
out to be much more fascinating than the parent
thread.

Oh, now those are terms I'm familiar with--parent
and child threads.  That refers back to the tree
structure--the parent is the trunk and the children
are the branches.

 I mean, somebody introduces a concept and then gets
 uptight when someone takes the concept off in directions
 he or she didn't intend? I'm picturing Aretha Franklin
 singing, A  T  T  A  C  H  M  E  N  T.
 
 :-)
 
 What you're complaining about with Thunderbird, by the
 way, is a limitation of ITS software. It was designed
 with certain protocols in mind, as if they were standards.
 They weren't.

I think that's correct.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 authfriend wrote:
snip
 I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
 in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
 and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
 heard the term thread hijacking except from
 you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
 Here's more on the subject:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking

But this isn't how you've defined it.  You're
all upset about the title changes, but Wikipedia's
definition doesn't even mention title changes:

Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum discussion thread off 
topic by discussing a subject entirely unrelated to the subject at 
hand.

While this can be an intentional act of trolling, it is often 
accidental - caused by other participants in the discussion 
responding to a throwaway remark, taking the thread off at a tangent 
to the original subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
often extract a feeling of resentment from the author of the post.

This is something people have done as long as I've
been participating in electronic forums, and I've
never seen anyone express resentment.  It isn't even
accidental per se (and in my experience it's rarely
trolling).

In any case, the two paragraphs are contradictory.  It's
one thing to go off on a tangent, and quite another to
introduce a subject entirely unrelated to the subject
at hand.

Now, notice what follows; changing the thread title
is discussed as a special case:

Many people find that they are scolded on a list or newsgroup for 
thread hijacking despite the fact that they changed the subject line, 
which would seem to them to create a new thread. Most news and mail 
readers use other headers such as References: to track and build the 
thread of messages by message ID, and changing the subject line does 
not change the actual threading.

So you're wrong to suggest that this only happens
on Yahoo; as far as Wikipedia is concerned, it's
standard.

Therefore, one should always compose a new (and therefore reference-
free) message when changing topics. Alternatively one can start a new 
thread for the new topic and link to the previous thread.

And how does one link to the previous thread?  Maybe
that was possible on old Usenet, although I never saw
it mentioned and have no idea how it would have been
done.

In any case, I still think the tree structure is a
good one in many cases.  It works very well on Google,
but Yahoo's new implementation of it is impenetrable
(and its Up thread option simply doesn't work at all).



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Fruedian Slip?)

2006-07-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
 Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he 
 rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his 
 perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime 
 Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land...

An interesting theory, one that I have not heard 
before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building
designs he approves. He calls them Vedic, but they're 
all classic British Raj.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 authfriend wrote:
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 I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
 in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
 and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
 heard the term thread hijacking except from
 you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
 
 Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else
 except Yahoo Groups.

But Vaj says it's a common phrase from the earlier
days on the net, and Yahoo Groups is quite recent.

  It may not be apparent unless you are using an email 
 client.  What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an 
 existing message and just changing the subject line.

An entirely new thead, or a tangent of the original
one, where the discussion has changed course and the
heading no longer applies?

Folks used to do this on Usenet all the time, putting
the original thread title in parens preceded by Was:
and nobody ever objected.  It still happens now on
Google Groups' Usenet newsgroups, and Google keeps
all the subthreads together with the original (or
Usenet does, and Google doesn't change that).

When it's a *tangent* to the original, sometimes it's
useful to be able to go back and see where it branched
off.

I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
of the post you're replying to, since you're not 
replying to anything.

 I've mentioned this before here particularly last year and got 
 mocked for bringing it up (anywhere else you may get mocked for 
 doing it).

Starting a brand-new thread by replying to a post in
an old thread and deleting the text of the post, perhaps.
I've never seen anyone but you get exercised when a 
thread is retitled when it takes off in a new direction.
Often the old part continues in parallel.  And there can
be quite a few branches off the old thread, all related
on some level, but dealing with different aspects of the
original topic.

 But the person whom 
 I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that 
 would be considered a thread hijacking.

No, not when it's a branch off the old thread.  That
just doesn't make any sense.  You *should* leave in
the old title in parens, though.

  I think that doing that should actually 
 create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo 
 database system can't handle that.

Neither can Google's (or Usenet's, whichever one it
is that handles the threads--I've never been sure).
And personally, I don't think it should.  Google 
calls a thread with subthreads a tree, because
the subthreads branch off.

  Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers 
 to keep the thread order.  I'm sure there were many CF's in the 
Yahoo 
 boardroom over this.  :)








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