date:20060713

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> http://in.news.yahoo.com/060714/43/65vo7.html
>
Thank you! for this amazing post;
I think we may be in 'Dan Ratherville, now'
It's getting mighty interesting.
Why would the British authorities;
Destoy such a valuable peice of history,
And Literature; from one of their own.
So, this shows how deep the divides were;
And the hatred of the Indian people;
For the decedant British, who I'm sure were getting into;
The usual Roman type orgies; as a natural extension;
Of the Roman Empire.
The South before the Civil War, in the United States;
Also, used the Roman paradigm, in their defense of slavery;
As the Romans considered slavery to be to be just the natural;
Course of things;
And if you didn't see things their way;
Well off to the Cross for you;
Jesus wasn't the only victim of he Romans...
Crosses were a very good method of terrorism, think about it?
Anyway, enough unstressing on the Romans...
They can still think they run the world if they need to...
The mafia, and the drug dealers, and the bankers the money traders;
In the temple of Love...
They can continue to corrupt humanity;
Through the usual vices of gambling, killing, and visually 
stimulating sexual/violent provoking images;
It's just the way it is here in Rome.
That is modern day Rome;
Is so much more than the old Empire...
All that is missing:
Caesar.
Then again, you have:
Caesars Palace; Las Vegas, where what happens here, stays here.
Thanks Mr. Big.
Thanks a lot!






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[FairfieldLife] For Sparaig

Don't know if you're still sparring with Skolnick
over the TM page, but I thought you might at least
get a chuckle out of this.  Doesn't sound as though
JAMA plans to have one of its news editors write a
muckraking expose of these researchers, does it?

July 13, 2006
Medical Journal Says It Was Again Misled 
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

CHICAGO, July 12  For the second time in two months, The Journal of 
the American Medical Association says it was misled by researchers 
who failed to reveal financial ties to drug companies.

The journal is tightening its policies for researchers as a result.

Dr. Catherine DeAngelis, the journal's editor in chief, 

said her main concern was the impact on readers, who she said needed 
to know about researchers' financial conflicts of interest to 
properly evaluate their studies.

The latest incident, disclosed in letters to the editor and a 
correction in Wednesday's journal, involves a study showing that 
pregnant women who stop taking antidepressants risk slipping back 
into depression.

Most of the 13 authors have financial ties to drug companies 
including antidepressant makers, but only two of them revealed their 
ties when the study was published in February.

Antidepressant use during pregnancy is controversial, and some 
studies have suggested that the drugs could pose risks to the fetus.

The authors of the study defended their research in a letter to the 
editor published Wednesday. The lead author, Dr. Lee Cohen of 
Massachusetts General Hospital, who is on the speaker's bureau for 
eight drug companies, disputed that such ties could influence 
findings.






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[FairfieldLife] Shelley poem on British oppression in India

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[FairfieldLife] Inside Yes: poor Tales fans

2006-07-13 Thread SoulQuest7

I just watched the DVD "Inside Yes  1968-1973" a critical review of the 
band's early career. For TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS fans, it's pretty sad. 
It 
ends with TALES, and the comments are pretty negative. The only unqualified 
positive statement comes from Chris Stilmant (a sound engineer) who said it was 
"THE album of YES; I just love it. It was long songs, double album, the artwork 
was beautiful, the music was beautiful, and it was what I was expecting music 
to become...it was a masterpiece." The worst statements come from Jerry Ewing 
of Classic Rock Magazine, who describes TALES as "a crap album," "tuneless 
dirge" and asks of the lyrics "what on earth are they talking about?"  Other 
commentators talk of it meandering and being hard to pick out the melodic and 
rhythmic highlights. Well, of course this is all nonsense to me. I started 
studying TALES (and I do think it requires some extended attention) in 1975, 
and I 
liked it right away. The lyrics did not impress me until 1976 when I suddenly 
became interested in all things mystical and spiritual, and then the lyrics, 
the 
liner notes, the book that inspired it, and the artwork all became of intense 
interest. The music did not seem too extreme at all. Sides one and two were 
VERY mellow and melodic (for a rock band), with little of the boogie feel of 
rock and none of the crunch of typical guitar riffs. However, I was already a 
big fan of Renaissance, so mellow folkie stuff like The Remembering (it 
obviously had other influences like ambient electronics) was totally up my 
alley. Side 
three was the most experimental arrangement of YES' career, but since I was 
fan of other manic, weird instrumentals like ELP's arrangement of "Toccata," 
King Crimson's "Lark's Tongues In Aspic Part One" or Todd Rundgren's "A 
Treatise 
on Cosmic Fire," "The Ancient" did not seem too extreme to me at all. Heck, 
around this time I was even listening to the free jazz duets of singer Ursula 
Dudziak and pianist Adam Mankowitz, and that didn't seem too extreme either. 
Side four of TALES,"Ritual," seems like the only logical climax (no pun 
intended 
on it's tantric implications) to the effort.  
I would say that progressive rock taught me to love a wide range of 
music. YES in particular gave me a taste for classical, jazz, country, 
electronic, 
and folk music. In many cases, it wasn't until years or decades later that I 
really delved into these genres, but I credit YES with giving me my first taste 
in many cases. 
  As for today, I still enjoy a good, challenging piece of music. Right 
at the end of last year I heard Sufjan Stevens ILLINOIS album (2005), and I 
studied it for months. Just yesterday I played his new album THE AVALANCHE: 
Outtakes and extras from the Illinois Album, and all I can say is that if these 
are 
"extras" then we are dealing with a major songwriter here. His music has been 
labeled "chamber folk" which I think is a good description because though 
rooted in acoustic songwriting, he embellishes to his heart's desire. He also 
likes minimalism, prog (you can even here a tad of Genesis-like synths on a 
couple of tracks) and classical. I'm also listening to some great early 60s 
Blue 
Note jazz albums, especially Lee Morgan's CORNBREAD. 
Philosophically, I'm still interested in those 1960s questions about 
"hate and death and war" (as the Moody Blues phrased it in their lyrics). I'm 
currently watching a couple of amazing documentaries that just came out on DVD: 
WHY WE FIGHT  about the military industrial complex that President Eisenhower 
warned us about, and LEFT OF THE DIAL, about America's first liberal talk radio 
network, Air America Radio.  I'm also ooking forward to rewatching CONTROL 
ROOM about the bombing (probably deliberate on Bush's part) of al-Jazeera's 
offices. 
   To me, TALES was just a part of this flow of thought: trying to save the 
world while living on another one. -===-=-=-=-= om-=-=--= Nick
  


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>authfriend wrote:
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>>I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
>>>thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
>>>start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
>>>of the post you're replying to, since you're not 
>>>replying to anything.
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>My point exactly.
>>
>>
>
>Yeah, but you've been complaining about child threads
>being retitled, not about people starting brand-new
>threads by replying to an old thread.
>
I've been mentioning that too.  Again "complaining" is a bit wrong, I've 
only been mentioning it in passing.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Freudian Slip?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > , "Robert Gimbel" 
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives
> >> > Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he
> >> > rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his
> >> > perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime
> >> > Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land...
> > 
> > An interesting theory, one that I have not heard
> > before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building
> > designs he approves. He calls them Vedic, but they're
> > all classic British Raj.
> 
> But of course, Bevan¹s not a Brit. He¹s Australian.

Yes, but, there's just a grain's difference between an Aussie, and a 
Brit.
The accent accross Great Britain, changes from place to place;
You remember the Beatles, and their 'Cockney- Liverpool accent'.
And of course the way Prince Charles speaks, the Queeens English...
Now, as I recall, the Brits, sent all the whores, criminals and other 
scum to Australia, as they used the island for a place to send 
the 'undesirables'.
Which is probably why, most Aussie's have more of a chip on their 
shoulders than the Brits, if that is possible?!
Now as far as accents go:
I can't imagine a more pure accent of Bevan's to his credit;
He can have an almost hypnotic effect, on his audience;
I would hate to see, if the TM movement really did become popular;
We could have another Attila the Hun, on our hands?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:

> >I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
> >thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
> >start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
> >of the post you're replying to, since you're not 
> >replying to anything.
> >  
> >
> My point exactly.

Yeah, but you've been complaining about child threads
being retitled, not about people starting brand-new
threads by replying to an old thread.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thread hijacking, was: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 7/13/06 6:30 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > @   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum
> > @   discussion thread off topic by discussing a
> > @   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
> > @   
> If you change a thread subject, it doesn¹t mean the original 
thread is cut
> short. It just means it bifurcates. One thread becomes two. As 
I¹ve just
> done. No harm.
>

just changing the thread subject does not cause it to bifurcates. 
It bifurcates or not depending to whom you reply in the tree 
structure,
meaning is the reply is to the parent or to the child, a reply to 
the child will cause it to bifurcates.

my 0.2

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>authfriend wrote:
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>>>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>>>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>>>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>>>you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else
>>except Yahoo Groups.
>>
>>
>
>But Vaj says it's a common phrase from "the earlier
>days on the net," and Yahoo Groups is quite recent.
>
>  It may not be apparent unless you are using an email 
>  
>
>>client.  What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an 
>>existing message and just changing the subject line.
>>
>>
>
>An entirely new thead, or a tangent of the original
>one, where the discussion has changed course and the
>heading no longer applies?
>
>Folks used to do this on Usenet all the time, putting
>the original thread title in parens preceded by "Was:"
>and nobody ever objected.  It still happens now on
>Google Groups' Usenet newsgroups, and Google keeps
>all the subthreads together with the original (or
>Usenet does, and Google doesn't change that).
>
>When it's a *tangent* to the original, sometimes it's
>useful to be able to go back and see where it branched
>off.
>
>I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
>thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
>start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
>of the post you're replying to, since you're not 
>replying to anything.
>  
>
My point exactly.

>  
>
>>I've mentioned this before here particularly last year and got 
>>mocked for bringing it up (anywhere else you may get mocked for 
>>doing it).
>>
>>
>
>Starting a brand-new thread by replying to a post in
>an old thread and deleting the text of the post, perhaps.
>I've never seen anyone but you get exercised when a 
>thread is retitled when it takes off in a new direction.
>Often the old part continues in parallel.  And there can
>be quite a few branches off the old thread, all related
>on some level, but dealing with different aspects of the
>original topic.
>
>  
>
>>But the person whom 
>>I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that 
>>would be considered a thread hijacking.
>>
>>
>
>No, not when it's a branch off the old thread.  That
>just doesn't make any sense.  You *should* leave in
>the old title in parens, though.
>
>  I think that doing that should actually 
>  
>
>>create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo 
>>database system can't handle that.
>>
>>
>
>Neither can Google's (or Usenet's, whichever one it
>is that handles the threads--I've never been sure).
>And personally, I don't think it should.  Google 
>calls a thread with subthreads a "tree," because
>the subthreads branch off.
>
>  Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers 
>  
>
>>to keep the thread order.  I'm sure there were many CF's in the 
>>
>>
>Yahoo 
>  
>
>>boardroom over this.  :)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

TurquoiseB wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>authfriend wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
over 
20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.


>>>   
>>>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>>>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>>>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>>>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>>>you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>>>  
>>>
>>Here's more on the subject:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking
>>
>>
>
>I don't really give a shit about threading, period,
>since I've discovered that it's more fun for me to
>read forums such as this one in strict chronological 
>order than it is to read them 'threaded.'
>
>But, that said, doesn't the following definition 
>from Wikipedia...
>
>@   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
>@   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
>@   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
>@   
>@   While this can be an intentional act of trolling, 
>@   it is often accidental - caused by other participants 
>@   in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, 
>@   taking the thread off at a tangent to the original 
>@   subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
>@   often extract a feeling of resentment from the author 
>@   of the post.
>
>...sound a lot like EGO to you?  :-)
>
>I mean, somebody introduces a concept and then gets
>uptight when someone takes the concept off in directions
>he or she didn't intend? I'm picturing Aretha Franklin
>singing, A  T  T  A  C  H  M  E  N  T.
>
>:-)
>
>What you're complaining about with Thunderbird, by the
>way, is a limitation of ITS software. It was designed
>with certain protocols in mind, as if they were standards.
>They weren't.
>
No it isn't a limitation of Thunderbird which is very flexible.  Have 
you ever even used it?  This is so funny, a bunch who embraces coherence 
embracing incoherence. :)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Fruedian Slip?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
> wrote:
> >
> > So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
> > Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he 
> > rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his 
> > perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime 
> > Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land...
> 
> An interesting theory, one that I have not heard 
> before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building
> designs he approves. He calls them Vedic, but they're 
> all classic British Raj.
>

Just reminds me of myself and my ex-wife; like a love/hate thing;
in many ways;
She's Italian, Roman really in a lot of ways;
And I'm Jewish, so there ya' go...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Proper Thread Ettiquette and Other Analness

I guess the world being what it is today a discussion on threads (very 
tantric I might add) made for a great diversion.  Or was it that Rahu 
was channeling through the group members as it transits my sixth 
house?   While we're at it let's call it "threadiquette."


new.morning wrote:

>No comment. 
>
>Just making this a proper thread. I break outin hives when there is
>such disorderliness. :)
>
>
>Re: Being Condescending ...
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>authfriend wrote:
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>>>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>>>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>>>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>>>you. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else
>>except Yahoo Groups.
>>
>>
>
>But Vaj says it's a common phrase from "the earlier
>days on the net," and Yahoo Groups is quite recent.
>
>It may not be apparent unless you are using an email
>  
>
>>client. What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an
>>existing message and just changing the subject line.
>>
>>
>
>An entirely new thead, or a tangent of the original
>one, where the discussion has changed course and the
>heading no longer applies?
>
>Folks used to do this on Usenet all the time, putting
>the original thread title in parens preceded by "Was:"
>and nobody ever objected. It still happens now on
>Google Groups' Usenet newsgroups, and Google keeps
>all the subthreads together with the original (or
>Usenet does, and Google doesn't change that).
>
>When it's a *tangent* to the original, sometimes it's
>useful to be able to go back and see where it branched
>off.
>
>I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
>thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
>start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
>of the post you're replying to, since you're not
>replying to anything.
>
>  
>
>>I've mentioned this before here particularly last year and got
>>mocked for bringing it up (anywhere else you may get mocked for
>>doing it).
>>
>>
>
>Starting a brand-new thread by replying to a post in
>an old thread and deleting the text of the post, perhaps.
>I've never seen anyone but you get exercised when a
>thread is retitled when it takes off in a new direction.
>Often the old part continues in parallel. And there can
>be quite a few branches off the old thread, all related
>on some level, but dealing with different aspects of the
>original topic.
>
>  
>
>>But the person whom
>>I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that
>>would be considered a thread hijacking.
>>
>>
>
>No, not when it's a branch off the old thread. That
>just doesn't make any sense. You *should* leave in
>the old title in parens, though.
>
>I think that doing that should actually
>  
>
>>create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo
>>database system can't handle that.
>>
>>
>
>Neither can Google's (or Usenet's, whichever one it
>is that handles the threads--I've never been sure).
>And personally, I don't think it should. Google
>calls a thread with subthreads a "tree," because
>the subthreads branch off.
>
>Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers
>  
>
>>to keep the thread order. I'm sure there were many CF's in the
>>
>>
>Yahoo
>  
>
>>boardroom over this. :)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to 
>>the original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and 
>>subject to fifty lashes.  :)
>>
>>
>
>I'm sorry, but I don't think that's deserving of
>the label "thread hijacking."  It's the same thread.
>
He was demonstrating the process.

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[FairfieldLife] Thread hijacking, was: Being Condescending ...

Title: Thread hijacking, was: Being Condescending ...





on 7/13/06 6:30 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

@   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
@   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
@   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
@   
If you change a thread subject, it doesn’t mean the original thread is cut short. It just means it bifurcates. One thread becomes two. As I’ve just done. No harm.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>authfriend wrote:
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>>>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>>>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>>>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>>>you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Here's more on the subject:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking
>>
>>
>
>But this isn't how you've defined it.  You're
>all upset about the title changes, but Wikipedia's
>definition doesn't even mention title changes:
>
>  
>
Subject line = title.  And besides I'm not all upset, I just mentioned 
it in passing but mentioning sure got a bunch with their panties in a 
knot.  :)

>"Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum discussion thread off 
>topic by discussing a subject entirely unrelated to the subject at 
>hand.
>
>"While this can be an intentional act of trolling, it is often 
>accidental - caused by other participants in the discussion 
>responding to a throwaway remark, taking the thread off at a tangent 
>to the original subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
>often extract a feeling of resentment from the author of the post."
>
>This is something people have done as long as I've
>been participating in electronic forums, and I've
>never seen anyone express resentment.  It isn't even
>"accidental" per se (and in my experience it's rarely
>trolling).
>
>In any case, the two paragraphs are contradictory.  It's
>one thing to go off on a tangent, and quite another to
>introduce "a subject entirely unrelated to the subject
>at hand."
>
>Now, notice what follows; changing the thread title
>is discussed as a special case:
>
>"Many people find that they are scolded on a list or newsgroup for 
>thread hijacking despite the fact that they changed the subject line, 
>which would seem to them to create a new thread. Most news and mail 
>readers use other headers such as References: to track and build the 
>thread of messages by message ID, and changing the subject line does 
>not change the actual threading."
>
>So you're wrong to suggest that this only happens
>on Yahoo; as far as Wikipedia is concerned, it's
>standard.
>
>"Therefore, one should always compose a new (and therefore reference-
>free) message when changing topics. Alternatively one can start a new 
>thread for the new topic and link to the previous thread."
>
>And how does one "link to the previous thread"?  Maybe
>that was possible on old Usenet, although I never saw
>it mentioned and have no idea how it would have been
>done.
>
>In any case, I still think the "tree" structure is a
>good one in many cases.  It works very well on Google,
>but Yahoo's new implementation of it is impenetrable
>(and its "Up thread" option simply doesn't work at all).
>
>
>
>Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking";
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> 
> >> But to  your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
> >> lie his socks off to someone  (Charlie Lutes) for 
> >> the very reason you mention, to give the  impression
> >> that someone else had done what he himself had done
> >> (kept  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
> >> time, which pissed Charlie  off so much that he 
> >> threw a tantrum and stormed out of the  hotel).
> > 
> > LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an  
> > hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for 
> > Jesus  Christ!"
> 
> Yup, almost word for word. I was the "door guy" at
> the hotel room door that night. I told the folks
> inside that Charlie was there, and watched them
> tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so,
> and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, 
> because I was the door guy, I was the one who 
> Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping 
> him out: "They never told me." They told him.
> 
> It was just a game, and I got caught in the middle
> of it. Shit happens.
>

Charlie told me that story. He didn'y blame you specifically.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Freudian Slip?)

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Freudian Slip?)

on 7/13/06 6:42 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
> Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he 
> rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his 
> perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime 
> Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land...

An interesting theory, one that I have not heard 
before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building
designs he approves. He calls them Vedic, but they're 
all classic British Raj.

But of course, Bevan’s not a Brit. He’s Australian.

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[FairfieldLife] Proper Thread Ettiquette and Other Analness

No comment. 

Just making this a proper thread. I break outin hives when there is
such disorderliness. :)

Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:

> >I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> >in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> >and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> >heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> >you. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> >
> Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else
> except Yahoo Groups.

But Vaj says it's a common phrase from "the earlier
days on the net," and Yahoo Groups is quite recent.

It may not be apparent unless you are using an email
> client. What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an
> existing message and just changing the subject line.

An entirely new thead, or a tangent of the original
one, where the discussion has changed course and the
heading no longer applies?

Folks used to do this on Usenet all the time, putting
the original thread title in parens preceded by "Was:"
and nobody ever objected. It still happens now on
Google Groups' Usenet newsgroups, and Google keeps
all the subthreads together with the original (or
Usenet does, and Google doesn't change that).

When it's a *tangent* to the original, sometimes it's
useful to be able to go back and see where it branched
off.

I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
of the post you're replying to, since you're not
replying to anything.

> I've mentioned this before here particularly last year and got
> mocked for bringing it up (anywhere else you may get mocked for
> doing it).

Starting a brand-new thread by replying to a post in
an old thread and deleting the text of the post, perhaps.
I've never seen anyone but you get exercised when a
thread is retitled when it takes off in a new direction.
Often the old part continues in parallel. And there can
be quite a few branches off the old thread, all related
on some level, but dealing with different aspects of the
original topic.

> But the person whom
> I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that
> would be considered a thread hijacking.

No, not when it's a branch off the old thread. That
just doesn't make any sense. You *should* leave in
the old title in parens, though.

I think that doing that should actually
> create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo
> database system can't handle that.

Neither can Google's (or Usenet's, whichever one it
is that handles the threads--I've never been sure).
And personally, I don't think it should. Google
calls a thread with subthreads a "tree," because
the subthreads branch off.

Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers
> to keep the thread order. I'm sure there were many CF's in the
Yahoo
> boardroom over this. :)
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS
> >
> > Man, I almost missed this - whacky yahoo non-threading and 
> > all.  Anyway, LOL! 
> 
> It was just a wild-hair-up-your-ass idea this 
> morning over coffee. Glad you enjoyed it.
> 
> But isn't it fascinating to consider that there
> are people in the world we know who would Go
> For It, if offered with similar language and
> similar interest rates?
> 
> > PS. Currently working on my recertification as a 
> > Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers  :)
> 
> It's a living...or will be...  :-)
>

ROTFLMAO!

That's the point, it never was a living. :-)  It was done in devotion
to an ideal. There are very few who would fall for it now. I really
think it's a sign of the Age of Enlightenment (tm) :) Even the 'real'
pronouncements barely make a blip now - among the un-recertified
faithful.  

JohnY

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:

> >I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> >in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> >and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> >heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> >you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> >
> Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else
> except Yahoo Groups.

But Vaj says it's a common phrase from "the earlier
days on the net," and Yahoo Groups is quite recent.

  It may not be apparent unless you are using an email 
> client.  What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an 
> existing message and just changing the subject line.

An entirely new thead, or a tangent of the original
one, where the discussion has changed course and the
heading no longer applies?

Folks used to do this on Usenet all the time, putting
the original thread title in parens preceded by "Was:"
and nobody ever objected.  It still happens now on
Google Groups' Usenet newsgroups, and Google keeps
all the subthreads together with the original (or
Usenet does, and Google doesn't change that).

When it's a *tangent* to the original, sometimes it's
useful to be able to go back and see where it branched
off.

I don't understand why anybody would start a brand-new
thread by replying to an old one, when it's so easy to
start a new one, and you don't have to delete the text
of the post you're replying to, since you're not 
replying to anything.

> I've mentioned this before here particularly last year and got 
> mocked for bringing it up (anywhere else you may get mocked for 
> doing it).

Starting a brand-new thread by replying to a post in
an old thread and deleting the text of the post, perhaps.
I've never seen anyone but you get exercised when a 
thread is retitled when it takes off in a new direction.
Often the old part continues in parallel.  And there can
be quite a few branches off the old thread, all related
on some level, but dealing with different aspects of the
original topic.

> But the person whom 
> I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that 
> would be considered a thread hijacking.

No, not when it's a branch off the old thread.  That
just doesn't make any sense.  You *should* leave in
the old title in parens, though.

  I think that doing that should actually 
> create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo 
> database system can't handle that.

Neither can Google's (or Usenet's, whichever one it
is that handles the threads--I've never been sure).
And personally, I don't think it should.  Google 
calls a thread with subthreads a "tree," because
the subthreads branch off.

  Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers 
> to keep the thread order.  I'm sure there were many CF's in the 
Yahoo 
> boardroom over this.  :)
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Fruedian Slip?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
> Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he 
> rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his 
> perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime 
> Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land...

An interesting theory, one that I have not heard 
before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building
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all classic British Raj.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:

> >I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> >in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> >and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> >heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> >you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> >
> Here's more on the subject:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking

But this isn't how you've defined it.  You're
all upset about the title changes, but Wikipedia's
definition doesn't even mention title changes:

"Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum discussion thread off 
topic by discussing a subject entirely unrelated to the subject at 
hand.

"While this can be an intentional act of trolling, it is often 
accidental - caused by other participants in the discussion 
responding to a throwaway remark, taking the thread off at a tangent 
to the original subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
often extract a feeling of resentment from the author of the post."

This is something people have done as long as I've
been participating in electronic forums, and I've
never seen anyone express resentment.  It isn't even
"accidental" per se (and in my experience it's rarely
trolling).

In any case, the two paragraphs are contradictory.  It's
one thing to go off on a tangent, and quite another to
introduce "a subject entirely unrelated to the subject
at hand."

Now, notice what follows; changing the thread title
is discussed as a special case:

"Many people find that they are scolded on a list or newsgroup for 
thread hijacking despite the fact that they changed the subject line, 
which would seem to them to create a new thread. Most news and mail 
readers use other headers such as References: to track and build the 
thread of messages by message ID, and changing the subject line does 
not change the actual threading."

So you're wrong to suggest that this only happens
on Yahoo; as far as Wikipedia is concerned, it's
standard.

"Therefore, one should always compose a new (and therefore reference-
free) message when changing topics. Alternatively one can start a new 
thread for the new topic and link to the previous thread."

And how does one "link to the previous thread"?  Maybe
that was possible on old Usenet, although I never saw
it mentioned and have no idea how it would have been
done.

In any case, I still think the "tree" structure is a
good one in many cases.  It works very well on Google,
but Yahoo's new implementation of it is impenetrable
(and its "Up thread" option simply doesn't work at all).

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking";

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > authfriend wrote:
> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and 
you'll 
> > >>get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
> > >>over 
> > >>20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
> > >>long.  I think I might know a little about how these things 
work.
> > >
> > >I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> > >in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> > >and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> > >heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> > >you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> > 
> > Here's more on the subject:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking
> 
> I don't really give a shit about threading, period,
> since I've discovered that it's more fun for me to
> read forums such as this one in strict chronological 
> order than it is to read them 'threaded.'

That's what I've always done (starting from my BBSing
days, when there were no such things as threads
anyway).

It *is* useful to be able to trace a thread back,
though, on occasion, so I'm all for threading, but
in a "tree" structure where the subthreads branch
off but you can trace them back to the main thread.

> But, that said, doesn't the following definition 
> from Wikipedia...
> 
> @   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
> @   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
> @   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
> @   
> @   While this can be an intentional act of trolling, 
> @   it is often accidental - caused by other participants 
> @   in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, 
> @   taking the thread off at a tangent to the original 
> @   subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
> @   often extract a feeling of resentment from the author 
> @   of the post.
> 
> ...sound a lot like EGO to you?  :-)

I agree with Barry here.  Half the fun of these
discussions is the odd directions they take.
Sometimes a subthread that takes a small piece of
the original discussion off on a tangent will turn
out to be much more fascinating than the parent
thread.

Oh, now those are terms I'm familiar with--"parent"
and "child" threads.  That refers back to the "tree"
structure--the "parent" is the trunk and the "children"
are the branches.

> I mean, somebody introduces a concept and then gets
> uptight when someone takes the concept off in directions
> he or she didn't intend? I'm picturing Aretha Franklin
> singing, A  T  T  A  C  H  M  E  N  T.
> 
> :-)
> 
> What you're complaining about with Thunderbird, by the
> way, is a limitation of ITS software. It was designed
> with certain protocols in mind, as if they were standards.
> They weren't.

I think that's correct.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > > 
> > > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > > news like that.
> > > 
> > > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > > 
> > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put 
on a show
> > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> > responsible.
> >
> 
> What would YOU have done?

I would have used the principle of 'highest first', and found out who 
was ultimately in charge of the blasting; and what options would be 
open to us; if they could postpone the blasting or not;
And if they told me there was no way to stop it since they were on a 
schedule;
Then I would have been honest with the course participants and 
Maharishi, and made a group decision, based on assets, and other 
varibles, to there would be a group effort and responsiblity taken.
And not dependent on Maharishi, taking care of everything, or doing 
nothing to resolve the problem..
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to 
> the original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and 
> subject to fifty lashes.  :)

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's deserving of
the label "thread hijacking."  It's the same thread.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > 
> > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > news like that.
> > 
> > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > 
> So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put 
on a show
> to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> responsible.
>
No, my guess is that it is like an incompetent corporation;
When you get to a certain level, it becomes like a corporation;
And takes on the weaknesses of the corporate structure;
No takes responsibility; no one wants to be the one to approach 
Maharishi with 'bad news'.. so, it just slides on for the next day;
Or nobody on staff, was familiar on how to contact the right people;
Who were in charge of the building there;
or perhaps the rented the building cheap, because of the on-going 
constuction going on there, at the time.
It's like King George II, with Katrina or Iraq.
Just an incompetent staff, with no one to take responsibity;
And living in a sort of altered reality.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:

> >>> I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> >>> in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> >>> and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> >>> heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> >>> you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> >>
> >> I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the
> >> net and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have 
> >> rules about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and 
> >> make comments or even bump people.
> >
> > Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what "thread
> > hijacking" is, so he can preserve his image as someone
> > who has privileged knowledge.
> >
> > Really quite amazing.
> 
> It's already been explained here numerous times (even though many  
> probably knew already). The only amazing thing is your wild  
> conclusions!

No, Vaj.  Your reading comprehension seems to be
deteriorating.  Read what I wrote above again, and
see if you can figure out where you went wrong.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> authfriend wrote:
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
> >>get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
> >>over 
> >>20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
> >>long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
> >
> >I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> >in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> >and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> >heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> >you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> 
> Here's more on the subject:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking

I don't really give a shit about threading, period,
since I've discovered that it's more fun for me to
read forums such as this one in strict chronological 
order than it is to read them 'threaded.'

But, that said, doesn't the following definition 
from Wikipedia...

@   Thread hijacking is the act of taking a forum 
@   discussion thread off topic by discussing a 
@   subject entirely unrelated to the subject at hand.
@   
@   While this can be an intentional act of trolling, 
@   it is often accidental - caused by other participants 
@   in the discussion responding to a throwaway remark, 
@   taking the thread off at a tangent to the original 
@   subject matter. The results, whilst often humourous, 
@   often extract a feeling of resentment from the author 
@   of the post.

...sound a lot like EGO to you?  :-)

I mean, somebody introduces a concept and then gets
uptight when someone takes the concept off in directions
he or she didn't intend? I'm picturing Aretha Franklin
singing, A  T  T  A  C  H  M  E  N  T.

:-)

What you're complaining about with Thunderbird, by the
way, is a limitation of ITS software. It was designed
with certain protocols in mind, as if they were standards.
They weren't.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
> About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
the 'middle'  of a 
> nation;
> He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
> That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
> Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
> Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
> Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
power;
> And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
> My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on EBAY;
> And sell to the highest bidder;
> Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
> At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
> And making a fortune doing it...
>  
> R.G.  Madison,WI.
> 
> 
> 
> Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is  why 
Bevan has 
> been around M so long, maybe he learned that quickly. That would  
not be his 
> fault, it would be M's .

I completely understand this on a very personal level:
To me from my experience, and my interest in astrology,
My ex-wife, Christine's birthday is Jan. 14th;
And my son, Jeff, was born Jan. 16th; right after the 'Taste of 
Utopia Course' in 1984, in Fairfield.
My son in particular does not like to hear anything that is not what 
he wants to hear; he is very self-determined not to take any one 
else's opinion on what he should be doing;
He has always been like this as a child and only get's stronger in 
his self-determination, as he gets older.
Capricorn is the 'final earth sign';
So, I guess they like to prescribe their own reality;
Of their life, and their real estate, and what they stand for;
And do not take critisism well, or want your opinion.

But, the main point, is to be a help to any leader;
Like Maharishi, or Martin Luther King, also a Capricorn;
That they do need someone, to tell them the truth;
Whether they wish to hear it or not.
Then that genuniely helps, because you can't rule, efficiently;
When you don't have the truth;
Another perfect example of this is King George II;
Although his shit is much deeper...
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[FairfieldLife] Operation Apocalypse?

Anyone else wonder if the current brew-ha-ha in the Middle East has been 
in the planning for months and is going according to schedule?  Keep 
those eyes wide open!



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Japa

2006-07-13 Thread Peter



--- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Alex Stanley 
> > > > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > On Jul 12, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Alex Stanley
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And Waking Down is also not for everyone
> (in
> > > > > > > fact, I'd say it's not for the vast
> majority
> > > > > > > of people). What bugs me, though, is
> that the
> > > > > > > TM TB has to portray my dropping TM as a
> case
> > > > > > > of me being weak and unwilling.
> > 
> > > > > Waking Down must have fixed it because I can
> > > > > meditate all I want now.
> > > > > Or maybe, just *maybe*, my thalamus had
> nothing to
> > > > > do with it.
> > > > 
> > > > No, no! There MUST be something wrong with you
> > > > because...because...well, just because!
> > > 
> > > Whoever said or implied there was something
> wrong with Alex?
> > 
> > Well, we do know he's paranoid.  ;-)
> 
> We do?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Fruedian Slip?)

 
> > In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> 
> >> But to  your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
> >> lie his socks off to someone  (Charlie Lutes) for 
> >> the very reason you mention, to give the  impression
> >> that someone else had done what he himself had done
> >> (kept  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
> >> time, which pissed Charlie  off so much that he 
> >> threw a tantrum and stormed out of the  hotel).
> > 
> > LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an  
> > hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for 
> > Jesus  Christ!"
> 
> Yup, almost word for word. I was the "door guy" at
> the hotel room door that night. I told the folks
> inside that Charlie was there, and watched them
> tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so,
> and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, 
> because I was the door guy, I was the one who 
> Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping 
> him out: "They never told me." They told him.
> 
> It was just a game, and I got caught in the middle
> of it. Shit happens.

Well, to go one step further, I will get Freudian here, so please 
forgive me:
Suppose Maharishi, really hates the British, a lot. This is obvious, 
by his recent comments and actions, against the Brits.
This I am sure goes back the childhood, when the British owned and 
ruled India, cause Gandhi, to be the Martin Luther King of the Indian 
people, to throw off the British rule;
So, it is obvious that any Indian person would have a love/hate 
relatinship with the British:
Love because of the language and the orderliness of the Brits.
And hate of being treated like second class citizens and being ruled 
by a foriegn force.
So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives 
Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he rules the 
Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his perfect speaking large 
form, long winded Bevan, the Prime Minister(English term) of 
Maharishi Land; 
And to get really Fruedian:
Suppose Maharishi's repressed sexual desires; and various accounts of 
stifled attempt in expressing his enormous love and senuality to a 
woman;
Well so, in this way the stifled sexualiy is expressed perfectly in 
Bevan: as the frustrated baffoon, of the movement, who helps to keep 
the illusion going, for Mahesh, that he's doing a good job.
Like Bush in a way:
Telling Rummy, 'Great job, Rummy;
or like:
So, in a way, perhaps was so pissed with King George II(President 
Bush),
That he saw his own dark side of in him in some way...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to
the 
> original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and
subject to 
> fifty lashes.  :)


I am glad you noticed the nice touch.



> new.morning wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>new.morning wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>subject 
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
> >>>don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in
order
> >>>to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
> >>>viewing vehicle. 
> >>>
> >>>But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
> >>>yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Wrong.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >First time in four minutes.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
> >
> >  
> >
> >>and you'll get 
> >>bashed for it on other lists. 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
> >
> >  
> >
> >> I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
> >>and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I
think I 
> >>might know a little about how these things work.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I've mentioned the 
> >>thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
> >better kind of person. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>And it didn't meet 
> >>with much enthusiasm then either.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
> >imagine why.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Some of the other programmers felt it 
> >>was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
> >>
> >>
> >topic 
> >  
> >
> >>changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
> >>remember which one they are using for this group. 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >They mush not be too smart. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I remember mine.   
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
> >fine people.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>So 
> >>they just do a reply and then change the subject.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Stupid pissants!
> > 
> >  
> >
> >>As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception,
newmo.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
> >that already.  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
>>get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
>>20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
>>long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
>>
>>
>
>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>
Here's more on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_Hijacking



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> new.morning wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>new.morning wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>subject 
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
>    
> 
> 
> 
> >>>No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
> >>>don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in
order
> >>>to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
> >>>viewing vehicle. 
> >>>
> >>>But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
> >>>yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Wrong.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >First time in four minutes.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
> >
> >  
> >
> >>and you'll get 
> >>bashed for it on other lists. 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
> >
> >  
> >
> >> I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
> >>and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I
think I 
> >>might know a little about how these things work.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I've mentioned the 
> >>thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
> >better kind of person. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>And it didn't meet 
> >>with much enthusiasm then either.  
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
> >imagine why.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Some of the other programmers felt it 
> >>was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
> >>
> >>
> >topic 
> >  
> >
> >>changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
> >>remember which one they are using for this group. 
> >>
> >>
> >
> >They mush not be too smart. 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I remember mine.   
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
> >fine people.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>So 
> >>they just do a reply and then change the subject.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Stupid pissants!
> > 
> >  
> >
> >>As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception,
newmo.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
> >that already.
> >
> Or you have one helluva inferiority complex.  

Oh my. That MUST be the case. its the only possible answer.

> I only mentioned my 
> programming background because you inferred I didn't understand the 
> technology.  

I never inferred such. I didn't even imply it. Perhaps you inferred
it. Your ego being so polished and immune to any perceived slights.

>I would be remiss if I didn't inform you otherwise.  

Oh yes, I think we all admire your politeness.

>As far 
> as being condescending the original comment was meant to be a jibe.

And yet you are blind to returning jibes? Oh it must just be the
sunlight and you didn't read it right. I am sure a man of your great
wit (half man, half wit) got the jibe.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam

Didn't all the teacher training courses have blasting 
in the vicinity? Mine did. I thought it was a requirement 
of the course.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > 
> > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > news like that.
> > 
> > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > 
> So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
> to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> responsible.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> > Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it 
> > was because of the "Bombing", but it happened all the sudden 
> > in the middle of the Second TTC that year. There must have 
> > been some searching and negotiations going  on for a 
> > while before the move was ever made.
> 
> Hahaha. As if Fuiggi was quiet!!!

Tell me about it. :-)

Remember the Fiats buzzing around with bullhorns on 
the top of them, spouting slogans in Italian at all
hours of the night and day? (During Italian elections,
each of the (seemingly) 108 parties has its Fiat and
its bullhorns, and they drone on all day and all night.)

I used to have meditation fantasies of dressing up in
blackface makeup and a black watch cap, WWII commando
style, and sneaking down to the roadside, waiting for
one of these Fiats to come by, and lobbing my grenade
at it. I remember the wave of bliss that overcame me
each time I saw one of them explode in my fantasies. :-)

Interestingly enough (karmically), it was shortly after
this that I experienced my first 24/7 witnessing periods.
Go fucking figure.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You CANNOT say "no" in polite Japanese. Japanese engineers 
> converse in English to get around this issue.

Is this inability to say "no" a function of the 
social hierarchy? For instance, I can't say "no" 
because only someone of higher rank would 
request something of me, and I cannot refuse 
someone who outranks me. That sort of scenario.

I'm told a big part of Japanese communication 
is determining where one ranks in relation to 
others, for one's rank determines which forms 
of speech one uses. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...


Judy, note that newmo hijacked the thread by adding REALLY REALLY to the 
original subject line.  Therefore we must find him guilty and subject to 
fifty lashes.  :)

new.morning wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>new.morning wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
   



>>>subject 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
   



>>>No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
>>>don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
>>>to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
>>>viewing vehicle. 
>>>
>>>But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
>>>yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
>  
>
>>Wrong.  
>>
>>
>
>First time in four minutes.
>
>  
>
>>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
>>
>>
>
>Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
>
>  
>
>>and you'll get 
>>bashed for it on other lists. 
>>
>>
>
>Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
>
>  
>
>> I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
>>and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
>>might know a little about how these things work.  
>>
>>
>
>Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
>
>  
>
>>I've mentioned the 
>>thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
>>
>>
>
>Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
>better kind of person. 
>
>  
>
>>And it didn't meet 
>>with much enthusiasm then either.  
>>
>>
>
>Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
>imagine why.
>
>
>  
>
>>Some of the other programmers felt it 
>>was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
>>
>>
>topic 
>  
>
>>changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
>>remember which one they are using for this group. 
>>
>>
>
>They mush not be too smart. 
>
>  
>
>>I remember mine.   
>>
>>
>
>Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
>fine people.
>
>  
>
>>So 
>>they just do a reply and then change the subject.
>>
>>
>
>Stupid pissants!
> 
>  
>
>>As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.
>>
>>
>
>Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
>that already.  
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS
>
> Man, I almost missed this - whacky yahoo non-threading and 
> all.  Anyway, LOL! 

It was just a wild-hair-up-your-ass idea this 
morning over coffee. Glad you enjoyed it.

But isn't it fascinating to consider that there
are people in the world we know who would Go
For It, if offered with similar language and
similar interest rates?

> PS. Currently working on my recertification as a 
> Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers  :)

It's a living...or will be...  :-)

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[FairfieldLife] Quotes from the leaders of Israel

2006-07-13 Thread johnlasher20002000

http://www.monabaker.com/quotes.htm





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj

On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:45 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Wrong. Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll get bashed for it on other lists. I've been a programmer for over 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that long. I think I might know a little about how these things work. I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups, and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never heard the term "thread hijacking" except from you. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make comments or even bump people. Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what "thread hijacking" is, so he can preserve his image as someone who has privileged knowledge. Really quite amazing. It's already been explained here numerous times (even though many probably knew already). The only amazing thing is your wild conclusions!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

new.morning wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>new.morning wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
   



>>>subject 
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
   



>>>No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
>>>don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
>>>to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
>>>viewing vehicle. 
>>>
>>>But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
>>>yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>
>  
>
>>Wrong.  
>>
>>
>
>First time in four minutes.
>
>  
>
>>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 
>>
>>
>
>Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?
>
>  
>
>>and you'll get 
>>bashed for it on other lists. 
>>
>>
>
>Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.
>
>  
>
>> I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
>>and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
>>might know a little about how these things work.  
>>
>>
>
>Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 
>
>  
>
>>I've mentioned the 
>>thread hijacking many times before on this list.   
>>
>>
>
>Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
>better kind of person. 
>
>  
>
>>And it didn't meet 
>>with much enthusiasm then either.  
>>
>>
>
>Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
>imagine why.
>
>
>  
>
>>Some of the other programmers felt it 
>>was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
>>
>>
>topic 
>  
>
>>changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
>>remember which one they are using for this group. 
>>
>>
>
>They mush not be too smart. 
>
>  
>
>>I remember mine.   
>>
>>
>
>Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
>fine people.
>
>  
>
>>So 
>>they just do a reply and then change the subject.
>>
>>
>
>Stupid pissants!
> 
>  
>
>>As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.
>>
>>
>
>Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
>that already.
>
Or you have one helluva inferiority complex.   I only mentioned my 
programming background because you inferred I didn't understand the 
technology.  I would be remiss if I didn't inform you otherwise.  As far 
as being condescending the original comment was meant to be a jibe.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
>> But to  your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
>> lie his socks off to someone  (Charlie Lutes) for 
>> the very reason you mention, to give the  impression
>> that someone else had done what he himself had done
>> (kept  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
>> time, which pissed Charlie  off so much that he 
>> threw a tantrum and stormed out of the  hotel).
> 
> LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an  
> hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for 
> Jesus  Christ!"

Yup, almost word for word. I was the "door guy" at
the hotel room door that night. I told the folks
inside that Charlie was there, and watched them
tell Maharishi. Charlie waited for an hour or so,
and then stormed off, shouting those words. Later, 
because I was the door guy, I was the one who 
Maharishi told Charlie was to blame for keeping 
him out: "They never told me." They told him.

It was just a game, and I got caught in the middle
of it. Shit happens.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

authfriend wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
>>get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
>>20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
>>long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
>>
>>
>
>I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
>in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
>and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
>heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
>you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
>
Probably because it may not be possible much of anywhere else except 
Yahoo Groups.  It may not be apparent unless you are using an email 
client.  What it means is trying to start a new thread by taking an 
existing message and just changing the subject line.  I've mentioned 
this before here particularly last year and got mocked for bringing it 
up (anywhere else you may get mocked for doing it).  But the person whom 
I was responding to was asking why the subject changed and that would be 
considered a thread hijacking.  I think that doing that should actually 
create a new thread in the database but apparently the Yahoo database 
system can't handle that.  Yahoo apparently uses their message numbers 
to keep the thread order.  I'm sure there were many CF's in the Yahoo 
boardroom over this.  :)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Non-ru scientist on his preference for TM study

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: US Peace Government
> 
> 
> Quote by Dr Noel Bairey Merz about the selection of the TM 
> techniquein medical research
> 
> 
> Thought you would appreciate this statement by a non-meditating 
> researcher about why the TM technique was chosen for their federally-
> funded research study. This quote appeared last week in one of the 
> many articles published on the release of new NIH-funded research on 
> TM and heart disease.
> 
> -
> ---
> 
> "Transcendental Meditation is one of the techniques that has been 
> studied the most, and the most rigorously, in randomized controlled 
> trials. ...We chose Transcendental Meditation because it's highly 
> protocolized and standardized, whereas many of the others aren't. 
> For instance, Transcendental Meditation is trademarked; you have to 
> be a certified instructor to teach it. The other reason we selected 
> TM was that there were prior studies that suggested a very 
> consistent physiological response on blood pressure."
> Dr Noel Bairey Merz, researcher, Cedars-Sinai Research Institute, 
> Los Angeles, CA;  Professor of Medicine, UCLA Medical School.
>

Including studies that compared the effects of TM and other relaxation 
techniques, 
including Benson's Relaxation Response, that found that TM had more effect on 
BP. Said 
studies were performed by teams of TMing and non-TMing meditators, BTW.

If you're going to study the effect of only one form of relaxation, you might 
as well use the 
one with the most proven effect. Otherwise, you're setting yourself up to find 
"no effect," 
which is a scientific no-no, although many skeptical researchers indulge in 
variations of 
this practice.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 & computer graphics

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/13/06 9:32:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > groups@ writes:
> > 
> > on  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at kabbalist1@ wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely  the message 
> > subject/topic in a rude manner. 
> > The original topic was  "Palestinians & terrorism " .  
> > 
> > Is it accustomed to do such  on this MB ?  
> > 
> > 
> > Often, threads  morph so that whatâs being discussed bears no resemblance 
> > to 
> > the original  discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we 
> > recommend changing  the subject line. 
> > 
> > 
> > And that morphing process can be rather quick at  times.
> >
> 
> Yes it can. (See thread title).
>

LOL Apparently the Yahoo editor does't allow you to change thread titles. At 
least my title 
doesn't show up as title of the thread, but only with an "RE:" inside the 
message body.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

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>
> --- Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
> > yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
> > then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. 
> 
> I recall a tape on my teacher training course in which 
> MMY talked about culturing God Consciousness via 
> devotion. He talked about the role of marriage in 
> helping that process along. In the course of his 
> discourse, he said to never say no to your spouse. 
> He said to always say yes, even if you have to say 
> no later. That advice struck me as troublesome 
> even before I learned the importance of being 
> impeccable with one's word. I felt that changing 
> one's mind would present even greater problems, 
> and I still feel so today. But it makes sense in the 
> cultural context described above.
> 
> The Western variation seems to be to say "yes" 
> when one definitely means yes, and "maybe" 
> when one would rather not say yes.
>

Robert Heinlein, a well-known Western writer, once said: in a martial argument, 
if you 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 7/13/06 10:53 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> > > 
> >> > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a 
> >> > show
> >> > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> >> > responsible.
> >> >
> > 
> > What would YOU have done?
> > 
> I would have told them that I knew about the dynamite (if I did) but that we
> had no control over the situation, so just bear with it.
>

Perhaps that was the issue: the illusion of control...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 7/13/06 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
> > lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for
> > the very reason you mention, to give the impression
> > that someone else had done what he himself had done
> > (kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
> > time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he
> > threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel).
> > 
> Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
> yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
> then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. People
> interpreted this as his cosmic way of helping their evolution.
>

Indians are all very cosmic, obviously.

Japanese are even worse. You CANNOT say "no" in polite Japanese. Japanese 
engineers 
converse in English to get around this issue.

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[FairfieldLife] Non-ru scientist on his preference for TM study

From: US Peace Government


Quote by Dr Noel Bairey Merz about the selection of the TM 
techniquein medical research


Thought you would appreciate this statement by a non-meditating 
researcher about why the TM technique was chosen for their federally-
funded research study. This quote appeared last week in one of the 
many articles published on the release of new NIH-funded research on 
TM and heart disease.

-
---

"Transcendental Meditation is one of the techniques that has been 
studied the most, and the most rigorously, in randomized controlled 
trials. ...We chose Transcendental Meditation because it's highly 
protocolized and standardized, whereas many of the others aren't. 
For instance, Transcendental Meditation is trademarked; you have to 
be a certified instructor to teach it. The other reason we selected 
TM was that there were prior studies that suggested a very 
consistent physiological response on blood pressure."
Dr Noel Bairey Merz, researcher, Cedars-Sinai Research Institute, 
Los Angeles, CA;  Professor of Medicine, UCLA Medical School. 
 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel & terrorism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > nablus108@ writes:
> > 
> > The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the 
israelis 
> > will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are 
basically 
> > thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  
young that all 
> > of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely 
no  business 
> > there. It's all or nothing for them.< Those thieving Jews, 
hmmm,  where have we 
> > heard that before?
> >
> 


> You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same 
thing? Dare I mention that 
> international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its 
embassy there and the Israelis 
> have claimed it as their capital for how long now?
>


"Jerusalem; note - Israel proclaimed Jerusalem as its capital in 
1950, but the US, like nearly all other countries, maintains its 
Embassy in Tel Aviv 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion 
> in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
> The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
> terrorism.
> The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; 
> how sad.
> 

***

How droll. The U.S. gives Israel billions every year so they can buy  
the most advanced weapons in order to suppress the Palestinians, and 
that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of cost to U.S. citizens:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > 
> >> Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll
> >> get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for 
over
> >> 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that
> >> long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
> >
> > I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> > in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> > and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> > heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> > you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
> 
> I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net  
> and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules  
> about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make
> comments or even bump people.

Says Vaj, very carefully *not* explaining what "thread
hijacking" is, so he can preserve his image as someone
who has privileged knowledge.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj



On Jul 13, 2006, at 4:22 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll  get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over  20 years and have been using email and online clients for that  long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.  I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups, and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never heard the term "thread hijacking" except from you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean. I have. It was considered inconsiderate in earlier days on the net and still is to some people. Some private lists I'm on have rules about this kinda thing. Moderators may even nose in and make comments or even bump people. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> The Western variation seems to be to say "yes" 
> when one definitely means yes, and "maybe" 
> when one would rather not say yes.

"Soon" is another "good" one.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> Partly, it¹s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say
> yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone
> then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. 

I recall a tape on my teacher training course in which 
MMY talked about culturing God Consciousness via 
devotion. He talked about the role of marriage in 
helping that process along. In the course of his 
discourse, he said to never say no to your spouse. 
He said to always say yes, even if you have to say 
no later. That advice struck me as troublesome 
even before I learned the importance of being 
impeccable with one's word. I felt that changing 
one's mind would present even greater problems, 
and I still feel so today. But it makes sense in the 
cultural context described above.

The Western variation seems to be to say "yes" 
when one definitely means yes, and "maybe" 
when one would rather not say yes.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel & terrorism& The LAND Palistine & transjorden etc

2006-07-13 Thread WLeed3






 The area of the Ottoman empire known as Palestine is now 
presently 2006 divided. Becoming the British mandate under the League of Nations 
it was divided in 1922. In that year 77% of the mandates land mass was carved 
out & given to the Arabs -- Palestinians to have as & for their own land 
& country. Today this area is know as Jordan. The remainder of the lands 
were intended by the mandate & league to be & become a homeland for 
the Jews. The Jews were then & always quite agreeable to the Arabs having 
there own nation on part of the land ( mandated lands). The remainder of 
Palestine was intended as a homeland for the Jews. the purpose for creating ( 
then called transjordan was to," establish a Jewish national home land west of 
the Jordan river & a separate Palestine entity in the Palestine east of the 
Jordan River. I note as an aside Winston Churchill often spoke & wrote 
of these purposes.  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> > Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
> > get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
> > 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
> > long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.
> 
> I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
> in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
> and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
> heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
> you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

But clearly you, and especially me, are not one of the beautiful
people. Not one of the elites.  But thankfully there are people like
us so the clearly beautiful people can look down on us pissants and
finally feel really good about themselves. Its a good thing. More
happiness for all.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> new.morning wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
> >>
> >>
> >subject 
> >  
> >
> >>line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
> >don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
> >to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
> >viewing vehicle. 
> >
> >But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
> >yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
> >

> Wrong.  

First time in four minutes.

>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 

Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

> and you'll get 
> bashed for it on other lists. 

Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

>  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
> and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
> might know a little about how these things work.  

Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

>I've mentioned the 
> thread hijacking many times before on this list.   

Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

> And it didn't meet 
> with much enthusiasm then either.  

Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.


>Some of the other programmers felt it 
> was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
topic 
> changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
> remember which one they are using for this group. 

They mush not be too smart. 

> I remember mine.   

Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

>So 
> they just do a reply and then change the subject.

Stupid pissants!
 
> As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.

Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.  






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll 
> get bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 
> 20 years and have been using email and online clients for that 
> long.  I think I might know a little about how these things work.

I'm not a programmer, but I've been participating
in electronic forums, via BBSs, email, newsgroups,
and on the Web for over 20 years, and I've never
heard the term "thread hijacking" except from
you.  I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Being REALLY REALLY Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> new.morning wrote:
> 
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
> >>
> >>
> >subject 
> >  
> >
> >>line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
> >don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
> >to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
> >viewing vehicle. 
> >
> >But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
> >yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
> >

> Wrong.  

First time in four minutes.

>Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette 

Considered by whome? Let me guess? YOU! Am I right?

> and you'll get 
> bashed for it on other lists. 

Godness gracious. Thank god I don't frequent such rude environs.

>  I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
> and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
> might know a little about how these things work.  

Oh my. We didn't know you were such a big important man. 

>I've mentioned the 
> thread hijacking many times before on this list.   

Yes. We are all so slow. Not like you. You are definitely a much
better kind of person. 

> And it didn't meet 
> with much enthusiasm then either.  

Gee. And comming from such a nice warm person like you, hard to
imagine why.

>Some of the other programmers felt it 
> was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the
topic 
> changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
> remember which one they are using for this group. 

They mush not be too smart. 

> I remember mine.   

Well. We KNEW that. You are one of the smart ones. One of the really
fine people.

>So 
> they just do a reply and then change the subject.

Stupid pissants!

> As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.

Well, I am one of the stupid, slow inconsiderate ones. but you KNEW
that already.  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Being Condescending ...

new.morning wrote:

>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
>>
>>
>subject 
>  
>
>>line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.
>>
>>
>
>No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
>don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
>to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
>viewing vehicle. 
>
>But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
>yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)
>
Wrong.  Thread hijacking is considered bad netiquette and you'll get 
bashed for it on other lists.   I've been a programmer for over 20 years 
and have been using email and online clients for that long.  I think I 
might know a little about how these things work.  I've mentioned the 
thread hijacking many times before on this list.   And it didn't meet 
with much enthusiasm then either.  Some of the other programmers felt it 
was a bug in Yahoo as other lists will start a new thread once the topic 
changes.   What happens is that some folks with multiple emails can't 
remember which one they are using for this group.  I remember mine.   So 
they just do a reply and then change the subject.

As for being condescending, well that is just your misperception, newmo.



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[FairfieldLife] Morning Kabbalah Reading

2006-07-13 Thread Kenny H

Good morning brethren!

This comes from a book on Nursing that I am doing some work for:

According to one of the central figures of Kabbalah, Rabbi Isaac Luria
(15341572) held that during creation, the vessels containing the
light of creation shattered, and the light became concealed as holy
sparks. Every particle and being in our physical universe contains
sparks of holiness. Our task, according to Luria, is to release each
spark from the shell and raise it up to return to its original state.
The sparks are raised through acts of loving kindness, of being in
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating







In a message dated 7/13/06 12:44:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 7/13/06 
  12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com 
  writes:> > > > --- In 
  _FairfieldLife@FairfieldLifFai_(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  > , "sparaig"  wrote:> >> > --- In 
  _FairfieldLife@FairfieldLifFai_ > (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
  , Rick Archer  wrote:> > >> > > on 
  7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED]pno_re_ > 
  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com) 
  wrote:> > > > > > > So after a few weeks 
  Maharishi showed up, and someone> > > > from the course stood 
  up and asked, "Maharishi, do you> > > > know when something 
  might be done about the dynamiting?"> > > > Maharishi said, 
  "What dynamite?"> > > > > > > > After being 
  told the story for the first time, he gave> > > > the course 
  leaders a public reaming for not telling him> > > > what was 
  happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-> > > > ing in 
  the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,> > > > and 
  heard him giving the aides who had traveled there> > > > with 
  him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*> > > > someone 
  to stand up in one of his talks and report bad> > > > news 
  like that.> > > > > > > > Nothing was ever 
  done about the dynamite.> > > > > > > So my guess 
  is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put> on a 
  show> > > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that 
  others were> > > responsible.> > >> > 
  > > What would YOU have done?> > Firest, I would have 
  sued the construction companies for an initial> outrageous sum. Then 
  held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing> the governor, 
  disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small> donation to the 
  local church for padre support and pressure. Then when> the 
  construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages"> and 
  reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple> their 
  figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their> hours of 
  blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! > > 
  Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to> 
  transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that> 
  those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer> 
  to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a> 
  thrill of bubbling bliss. > > And then I would double the price 
  the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the> long scramble for them and long 
  waiting list.> > Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your 
  courses and time around> M.!!!> >> > 
  > > > > Actually M just moved the courses to 
  Italy. I can't say it was because of > the "Bombing", but it 
  happened all the sudden in the middle of the Second TTC > that 
  year. There must have been some searching and negotiationsgoing on for a 
  > while before the move was ever made.>Hahaha. As if 
  Fuiggi was quiet!!!

No, Fuiggi wasn't quiet , but Rome was just a couple hours 
away by train!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

2006-07-13 Thread Vaj

On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:42 PM, new.morning wrote:Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages" and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! Have you ever considered going into sales? Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a thrill of bubbling bliss. Have you ever considered going into MANTRA sales? :-) And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the long scramble for them and long waiting list.You may have a future as a guru. Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around M.!!!
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened Negotiating

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/13/06 12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
>  
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) 
> ,  "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) ,  Rick Archer  wrote:
> > >
> > > on 7/13/06 8:34  AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed  up, and someone
> > > > from the course stood up and asked,  "Maharishi, do you
> > > > know when something might be done about  the dynamiting?"
> > > > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> >  > > 
> > > > After being told the story for the first time, he  gave
> > > > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling  him
> > > > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be  stand-
> > > > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the  hotel,
> > > > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled  there
> > > > with him a similar reaming, this time for  *allowing*
> > > > someone to stand up in one of his talks and  report bad
> > > > news like that.
> > > > 
> > >  > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > > > 
> > >  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
> on a  show
> > > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others  were
> > > responsible.
> > >
> > 
> > What would YOU  have done?
> 
> Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an  initial
> outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about  knowing
> the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a  small
> donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then  when
> the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay  "damages"
> and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with  triple
> their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase  their
> hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done!  
> 
> Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier  to
> transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And  that
> those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and  closer
> to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was  a
> thrill of bubbling bliss. 
> 
> And then I would double the price the  nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
> long scramble for them and long waiting  list.
> 
> Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time  around
> M.!!!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it was 
because of 
> the "Bombing", but it happened all the sudden in the middle of the 
Second TTC 
> that year. There must have been some searching and negotiations
going  on for a 
> while before the move was ever made.
>

Hahaha. As if Fuiggi was quiet!!!







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Re: [FairfieldLife] super radiance fw







In a message dated 7/13/06 11:46:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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It is 
  our joy and honor to participate in creating coherence for the world, 
  peace on earth.Please contact me for information on how we can all come 
  together to do what we are blessed to do. Thank you and I wish you all 
  joy.

I wonder if the TMO has ever considered building low income 
housing for retired and low income meditaters, Sidhas and Governors to live 
together and do,program together. Of course rent would have to be three times 
the going rate per square foot and those Maharishi organic veggies would have to 
be three times the price of regular organic. If they could generate their own 
Maharishi electricity they could charge three times for that also. All for low 
income folks on SS.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'







In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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But to 
  your point, I have personally seen Maharishilie his socks off to someone 
  (Charlie Lutes) for the very reason you mention, to give the 
  impressionthat someone else had done what he himself had done(kept 
  Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a longtime, which pissed Charlie 
  off so much that he threw a tantrum and stormed out of the 
  hotel).

LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an 
hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus 
Christ!"
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating







In a message dated 7/13/06 12:04:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  Rick Archer  wrote:> >> > on 7/13/06 8:34 
  AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED]s.com 
  wrote:> > > > > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed 
  up, and someone> > > from the course stood up and asked, 
  "Maharishi, do you> > > know when something might be done about 
  the dynamiting?"> > > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"> 
  > > > > > After being told the story for the first time, he 
  gave> > > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling 
  him> > > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be 
  stand-> > > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the 
  hotel,> > > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled 
  there> > > with him a similar reaming, this time for 
  *allowing*> > > someone to stand up in one of his talks and 
  report bad> > > news like that.> > > > > 
  > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.> > > > > 
  So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but puton a 
  show> > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others 
  were> > responsible.> >> > What would YOU 
  have done?Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an 
  initialoutrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about 
  knowingthe governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a 
  smalldonation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then 
  whenthe construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay 
  "damages"and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with 
  tripletheir figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase 
  theirhours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 
  Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier 
  totranscending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And 
  thatthose with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and 
  closerto CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was 
  athrill of bubbling bliss. And then I would double the price the 
  nosiest rooms. And laugh at thelong scramble for them and long waiting 
  list.Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time 
  aroundM.!!!>

Actually M just moved the courses to Italy. I can't say it was 
because of the "Bombing", but it happened all the sudden in the middle of the 
Second TTC that year. There must have been some searching and negotiations going 
on for a while before the move was ever made.
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[FairfieldLife] Being Condescending ...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> They really should start a new topic rather than just change the
subject 
> line.  But that seems to be beyond the comprehension of people here.

No, it just seems to be beyond your comprehension that most poeple
don't use an e-mail client that requires a new pristine topic in order
to have the subject changed -- e.g., the web site or their preferred
viewing vehicle. 

But since being condescending apparently makes you feel good about
yourself, and good generally, well, its a good thing, yes? :)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'







In a message dated 7/13/06 11:14:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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Nothing 
  was ever done about the dynamite.>Of course, what COULD be done 
  about the dynamite?

On my course people complained about the dynamite and M 
arranged to open some other hotels about an hour away. I made the move and the 
next morning woke up to dynamite exploding outside of my window! I moved back 
two days later.
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[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > > 
> > > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > > news like that.
> > > 
> > > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > > 
> > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
on a show
> > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> > responsible.
> >
> 
> What would YOU have done?

Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial
outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing
the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small
donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when
the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages"
and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple
their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their
hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 

Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to
transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that
those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer
to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a
thrill of bubbling bliss. 

And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
long scramble for them and long waiting list.

Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around
M.!!!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] nablus108 & mentality

Rick Archer wrote:

>on 7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely the message
>>subject/topic in a rude manner.
>>The original topic was "Palestinians & terrorism " .
>>
>>Is it accustomed to do such on this MB ?
>>
>>
>>
>Often, threads morph so that what¹s being discussed bears no resemblance to
>the original discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we
>recommend changing the subject line.
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[FairfieldLife] Enlightened Negotiating

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer  wrote:
> >
> > on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > > 
> > > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > > news like that.
> > > 
> > > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > > 
> > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put
on a show
> > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> > responsible.
> >
> 
> What would YOU have done?

Firest, I would have sued the construction companies for an initial
outrageous sum. Then held tight aand ranted and raved about knowing
the governor, disturbing the laws of nature. And would make a small
donation to the local church for padre support and pressure. Then when
the construction compnaies made an attractive offer to pay "damages"
and reduced hours of blasting, I would have countered with triple
their figure as compensation, yet allowing them to increase their
hours of blasting 50%. With 12 hours to accept. Hard close. Done! 

Then I would lecture the CPs that noise was no barrier to
transcending, and consciousness did not disappear with noise. And that
those with strong experiences, those who were more evolved and closer
to CC, actually thrived on rounding in noise -- that each blast was a
thrill of bubbling bliss. 

And then I would double the price the nosiest rooms. And laugh at the
long scramble for them and long waiting list.

Jeez, didn't you guys learn ANYTHING on your courses and time around
M.!!!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israel & terrorism







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  problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their young that all 
  > of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no 
  business > there. It's all or nothing for them.< Those thieving 
  Jews, hmmm, where have we > heard that before?>You think 
  that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same thing? Dare I mention that 
  international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its embassy there 
  and the Israelis have claimed it as their capital for how long 
  now?

But at least the Israelis are willing to live side by side 
with a Palestinian state in peace unlike the Palestinians. And the Arabs 
would still have Jerusalem had they not attacked Israel in hopes of driving them 
into the sea in 67. They would also have the West Bank and Golan Heights. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

on 7/13/06 10:53 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
> to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and that others were
> responsible.
>

What would YOU have done?

I would have told them that I knew about the dynamite (if I did) but that we had no control over the situation, so just bear with it.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 7/13/06 10:51 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > 
> > Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?
> > 
> If someone really cared, they could have thrown themselves on 
> top of it just as it was exploding and sacrificed themselves 
> for the other course participants. But NO

It never really bothered me that much. They had 
these little compressed-air-powered horns that
they'd fire off three times before each blast
as a warning to the other workers. It was like:

  HONK!  HONK!  HONK!  . . .  B O O M ! ! !

I always thought it'd be fun if some worker
figured out that the adjoining hotels were full
of...uh..."sensitive" meditators and one day
they just let loose with the horns:

  HONK!  HONK!  HONK!  . . .  (nothing...no blast)

I'd betcha some people would have lost it 
heavily at that point.  :-)

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[FairfieldLife] super radiance fw

[ A FW message ]  

Dear Sidha and Governor Friends,


This past Tuesday, July 11th,  we hosted a lovely Guru Purnima 
Celebration as did all of the Maharishi Enlightenment Centers around 
the world in conjunction with the Grand Celebration with Maharishi 
in Holland.


During the Celebration, Maharhishi charged all of us to  attain the 
national super radiance number for each country and build peace 
colonies to accommodate the Yogic Flyers who wish to participate.  
There is a plan for 9 such colonies in the United States, 
accommodating 200 Yogic Flyers each to attain our super radiance 
number of 1730.

 

Locally we are encouraging all Yogic Flyers to participate in group 
program at the most convenient location for you.   As Governors and 
Sidhas we are all aware of the influence of our collective program 
and now is the time to come together, like a family, and bring peace 
to our nation and world.

 

We will be in touch very soon as the plans unfold and details 
refined, but for now there are 3 locations in Fairfield County where 
group program is available:

 

Greenwich Maharishi Enlightenment Center:  Our new office at 200 
Railroad has a proper vastu orientation which is a requirement for 
the group program location.  It is already established and we can 
start now.  There has been a dedicated group program for many years 
in Greenwich and you are very welcome, deeply encouraged to join 
us.  

 

Weston Maharishi Enlightenment Center/Nevas Vastu Home:  We can 
arrange for group program in this beautiful and nourishing home of 
Bernie and Terry Nevas.  

 

Greater Bridgeport:  We are locating a place for group program in 
the Fairfield/Bridgeport area, but for now we can gather at Kathy's 
house in Stratford which has the proper east orientation.   

 

To participate please call Kathy at either 203-629-2049 or 203-256-
9705 or you can respond to this email.

 

To get the latest news and inspiration, including Maharishi speaking 
each day, you can watch the ongoing planning sessions in Holland.  
You can access it by going to the Maharishi Channel site at: 
www.mou.org .  This site will also let you know when previous 
broadcasts of the Grand Celebration and past planning sessions are 
being broadcast.

You can also access the live broadcasts via www.globalcountry.org.


At the Grand Celebration on July 11th, Maharishi spoke briefly:

"The world has been blessed for all these long years...today we are 
offering to Guru Dev...the supreme gift...of the Constitution of the 
Universe. The result has already started to be seen that the 
countries are beginning to loose their negativity and shortcomings.  
Already in one country, Holland, we see the sign of Invincibility.  
And this we offer to Guru Dev...Today, in offering all that we have, 
to the source of all that we have, we are really blessed...We offer 
to Guru Dev, all of our achievements, and all of our future 
achievements for the world--permanent peace on earth."

 
It is our joy and honor to participate in creating coherence for the 
world, peace on earth.
Please contact me for information on how we can all come together to 
do what we are blessed to do.  Thank you and I wish you all joy.
 
Jai Guru Dev
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'





on 7/13/06 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for 
the very reason you mention, to give the impression
that someone else had done what he himself had done
(kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he 
threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel).

Partly, it’s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. People interpreted this as his cosmic way of helping their evolution.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1"  
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> >
> > Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 
billion 
> > in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
> > The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
> > terrorism.
> > The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational 
thinking; 
> > how sad.
> > 
> 
> So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the 
money we give THEM? If you 
> don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead 
give money, every cent you 
> give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount.
>

yes, under the circumstances Israel needs to put some money in order 
to defend itself. It's military had significant budgets cuts. Seeing 
the situation today, I'm not sure it was a smart move.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > nablus108@ writes:
> > 
> > The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the 
israelis 
> > will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are 
basically 
> > thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  
young that all 
> > of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely 
no  business 
> > there. It's all or nothing for them.< Those thieving Jews, 
hmmm,  where have we 
> > heard that before?
> >
> 
> You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same 
thing? Dare I mention that 
> international city, Jerusalem? 

that Israel is their rightful land, yes, and it is! (and also to 
share) but not to be a terrorist and glorify death and murder
as 'expert' Palestinians.

>The USA STILL won't move its embassy there and the Israelis 
> have claimed it as their capital for how long now?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

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> on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > 
> > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > news like that.
> > 
> > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
> > 
> So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show
> to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were
> responsible.
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

on 7/13/06 10:51 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
>

Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?

If someone really cared, they could have thrown themselves on top of it just as it was exploding and sacrificed themselves for the other course participants. But NO

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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 & computer graphics

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> In a message dated 7/13/06 9:32:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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> on  7/13/06 8:57 AM, kabbalist1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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> 
> nablus108 in his recent reply changed completely  the message 
> subject/topic in a rude manner. 
> The original topic was  "Palestinians & terrorism " .  
> 
> Is it accustomed to do such  on this MB ?  
> 
> 
> Often, threads  morph so that whatâs being discussed bears no resemblance 
> to 
> the original  discussion or to the subject line. When this happens, we 
> recommend changing  the subject line. 
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> 
> And that morphing process can be rather quick at  times.
>

Yes it can. (See thread title).






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[FairfieldLife] Dream Healer

This guy will be on ABC's Prime Time tonight. 10pm Eastern

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'







In a message dated 7/13/06 9:58:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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  So my guess is that he knew very well about the 
  dynamite, but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and 
  that others were responsible. 
   

Yes, he couldn't miss it. It was happening all over the place. 
Probably outside his own hotel as well. Majorca was a tourist resort for fun in 
the sun. M got great deals to rent these hotels during the off season when they 
would have sat virtually empty. The TMO provided jobs, and maintenance for the 
Hotels and Majorcans during a time that would have been very 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> > babajii_99@ writes:
> > 
> >> Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,
> >> About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in the 
> >> 'middle'  of a nation;
> >> He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:
> >> That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;
> >> Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.
> >> Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:
> >> Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of  
> >> power;
> >> And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.
> >> My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on EBAY;
> >> And sell to the highest bidder;
> >> Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;
> >> At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;
> >> And making a fortune doing it...
> >>  
> >> R.G.  Madison,WI.
> > 
> > 
> > Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
> > why Bevan has been around M so long, maybe he learned that 
> > quickly. That would  not be his fault, it would be M's .
> 
> I'd have to agree with MDixon on this one. I remember
> an incident in Mallorca. We were staying in hotels
> along the ocean, meditating 10-12 hours a day, and
> one of the adjacent hotels started doing construction
> work that involved the use of dynamite. We complained
> to the course leaders, who told us, over and over, 
> "Maharishi knows all about it; he's working on getting
> the problem resolved." 
> 
> So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> 
> After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad 
> news like that.
> 
> Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
>

Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: nablus108 & mentality

thank you and Rick for the heads up.

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> 
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> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  wrote:
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> > Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 
> 
> Even better, an announcement similar to the following:
> 
> 
> MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS
> 
> Realizing that the last days of Kali Yuga are a real
> bitch, Maharishi has accepted the sad fact that not 
> all of his faithful followers are going to realize 
> their enlightenment during this lifetime. Even though
> this is their fault (not his, and not TM's), he has
> established Maharishi (tm) Compassionate Banking 
> Services, to make it easier for them to find the
> True Path To Enlightenment in their next incarnation.
>>>big snip << 
> It's the deal of a lifetime. Or two. Sign up today!
> 
> ** Naturally, we cannot allow just anyone to walk
>in off the street and claim to be a Future Life
>Account holder. So we are working on certifying
>Maharishi (tm) TM (tm) Past Life Seers. For a
>reasonable fee, these trained counselors will
>sit in lotus, roll their eyes upwards, and use
>their TM-siddhi-fueled superpowers to access
>your past-life profile and determine whether
>you are, in fact, the reincarnation of your
>former self. You can trust our counselors to
>always be right about this, because when, after
>all, have we *not* been right about everything?
>


Man, I almost missed this - whacky yahoo non-threading and all. 
Anyway,  LOL! 

Thanks, 

JohnY

PS. Currently working on my recertification as a 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion 
> in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups.
> The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more 
> terrorism.
> The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; 
> how sad.
> 

So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the money we give 
THEM? If you 
don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead give money, 
every cent you 
give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Israel & terrorism

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The  Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis 
> will have  their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically 
> thieves, on  radically less square miles than today.
> 
> 
> 
> The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their  young that all 
> of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no  business 
> there. It's all or nothing for them.< Those thieving Jews, hmmm,  where have 
> we 
> heard that before?
>

You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same thing? Dare I 
mention that 
international city, Jerusalem? The USA STILL won't move its embassy there and 
the Israelis 
have claimed it as their capital for how long now?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone
> > from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you
> > know when something might be done about the dynamiting?"
> > Maharishi said, "What dynamite?"
> > 
> > After being told the story for the first time, he gave
> > the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him
> > what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-
> > ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,
> > and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there
> > with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*
> > someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad
> > news like that.
> > 
> > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.
>  
> So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, 
> but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn¹t 
> known, and that others were responsible.

That would be a possibility, except that under
pressure the course leaders admitted they hadn't
told him because they didn't want to bother him
with "petty details."

But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi
lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for 
the very reason you mention, to give the impression
that someone else had done what he himself had done
(kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long
time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he 
threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel).

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[FairfieldLife] Re: MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000"  wrote:
> >
> > Next - Enlightenment Bank ... Stapathya Veda Line of Credit? 
> 
> Even better, an announcement similar to the following:
> 
> 
> MAHARISHI (tm) TM (tm) FUTURE LIFE ACCOUNTS
> 

You've written a great tagline! 

"You can trust our counselors to
always be right about this, because when, after
all, have we *not* been right about everything?"

JohnY

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'







In a message dated 7/13/06 9:49:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 7/12/06 
  9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED].. 
  writes:> > Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of 
  Maharishi,> About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in 
  the 'middle' of a > nation;> He failed to tell Maharishi, in 
  his question to His Holiness:> That the stupid publicity they got on 
  the Kansas of Oz deal;> Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first 
  place.> Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good 
  publicity:> Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale 
  of power;> And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in 
  my book.> My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on 
  EBAY;> And sell to the highest bidder;> Besides Maharishi's eyes 
  will light up;> At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;> And making a 
  fortune doing it...> > R.G. Madison,WI.> > 
  > > Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is 
  why Bevan has > been around M so long, maybe he learned that 
  quickly. That would not be his > fault, it would be M's 
  .>Dixon,I concur with that, Bevan always seemed to me as a 
  'yes man' kind of guy, very loyal to Mahesh, loyal to his self intrest as 
  well, i'm sure. :)despite my criticism of him, i think he added 
  stability to the movement in it's first phase, but maybe he should go now 
  and let some real creative thinking to happen. one has to 
  wonder.

Perhaps he should, but M wouldn't want him  to 
leave  because he does just want M tells him to do. If it's not broken, 
don't fix it,  at least from M's point of view any way. Besides, Bevan 
probably knows way too much about the inner workings of the TMO to take a chance 
on  him pissing off.
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In a message dated 7/13/06 9:23:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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After 
  being told the story for the first time, he gavethe course leaders a 
  public reaming for not telling himwhat was happening. Afterwards, I 
  happened to be stand-ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the 
  hotel,and heard him giving the aides who had traveled therewith him a 
  similar reaming, this time for *allowing*someone to stand up in one of his 
  talks and report bad news like that.

I think this kind of thing is much more common than most 
people have ever thought. M has always had a public image that  is far 
different from what he actually practices in 
private.
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