Satanic Lombard - Exorcised!!! And how about a Superdrive?

2005-02-15 Thread The Real Seed Catalogue
Just to let you know that with a new CPU card - all problems gone, 
even with the original memory.

Also a plug for Crucial Memory, who get 10/10 for helpful tech 
support. The person who picked up the customer support number **was 
the technician** (no transfers!) and knew all about macs, straight 
off the top of his head, even down to which models had firmware 
revisions for RAM speeds.

Soo.. now it works, I want to know if anyone has managed to put a 
superdrive in one of the beasties. It should fit surely!   Any 
pointers to info?

Ben
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Wallstreet Video Problem

2005-02-15 Thread Bob
Well, since we're discussing Wallstreet problems, I have one for you. 
I could research it myself, but I'm not sure how to accurately 
describe it, or what it's called.

This is my setup:
Wallstreet II 266
384MB RAM
40GB H.D. (8 partitions, plenty of room in each one)
OS - 8.5 to 10.2.4.
VM turned off if not prohibited
FWIW I have had the disk cache set to 1024 (I just changed it to 2048 
to see if that has any effect)

I almost always have at least 8 applications running simultaneously 
(which I use all the all the time),  including the Finder/System, 
which consumes memory like an application. I also always have 
around40-50 application/Finder windows open all of the time. 
Sometimes I run 8 or 9 simultaneous applications. That's when I see 
the following problem.

How do I describe what happens to the video? Well, in OS 8.6, every 
time certain windows are changed, there is a brief moment where they 
have squiggly lines in them (hard to explain, but similar to lines 
full of  tilde ~ marks). I haven't done a lot of self-diagnosis, 
but it *seems* to be windows that are active even when in the 
background.

For instance, I'm in Eudora now, if I switch to my Telnet client (for 
Unix email), that window -- which is in essence always active -- that 
window has the momentary video weirdness. The same thing happens if I 
bring the Monitor window of IPNetMonitor to the front (it is 
constantly showing TCP/IP input/output, so it is active all the time 
as well). This does not happen if I reactive a Eudora window, or a 
browser winder, or a text edit window. In this OS, the problem will 
eventually cause the System to crash. However, if I am judicious with 
opening additional windows after the problem appears, I can usually 
continue using things for another 3-7 days before experiencing the 
system crash (I rarely shut down, except to change OSes or recover 
from a crash).

If I'm in OS 9.2.2, it usually manifests itself after waking up from 
sleep. There the problem is worse. All the text on the screen is 
fuzzy and hard to read. If I scroll any window the text becomes 
muddied and completely illegible. The cursor become almost 
transparent. It's practically impossible to see ( or even find) on 
the screen.

I  have not noticed the problem in OS X. But I use it the least of 
all of the operating systems.

Now, this acts likes a memory problem. It seems to only occur after 
opening one or two additional programs. However, I am very meticulous 
as to the manner in which I open and close applications (in fact, I 
almost never close any of the primary 8 that I use all of the time), 
so I don't have a fragmented memory problem. And I usually have 
between 180 to 250MB RAM free when the problem occurs.

The only other thing I can think of that would cause this kind of 
problem, would be the video/video RAM. I don't know if the System 
heap could cause this or not.

Seems like I have heard of Wallstreet problems that might have been 
similar (but again, it's a difficult problem to be described the same 
way by everyone). Does it sound familiar to anyone? Does anyone know 
what the solution is?

I sure would appreciate some knowledgeable input. It's made OS 9 all 
but unusable.

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Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew McCall
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:04:24 -0800, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been watching Pismos
 and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade.
 
 Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing
 his G3 900MHz upgrade.
 
 I wonder if I can solicit opinions
   relative to advantages of each?

I chose the G3 900MHz as I read a review that said that although the
G4 had the advantages of the Altivec, the fact that the G3 was 400MHz
faster managed to push it ahead in terms of raw speed, for instance,
iTunes encodes faster with the G3 900MHz than with the G4 500MHz,
despite it not having Altivec.

I am sure there will be *some* cases where the G4/500MHz is a faster
chip, but not many.

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Re: Lombard superdrive

2005-02-15 Thread My Name
On 15/02/2005 10:43, G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com wrote:

 Soo.. now it works, I want to know if anyone has managed to put a
 superdrive in one of the beasties. It should fit surely!   Any
 pointers to info?
 
 Ben

No problem putting a Superdrive in. I'd suggest a slot-loading one, so that
if you move to a G4 in the future you can take the Superdrive with you. As
to models, the Panasonic UJ slot-loading drives are the way to go: UJ-815 is
a 2x burner, UJ-825 is 4x (also does DVD+R), the UJ-835 is 8x (also DVD+R
and Dual Layer disks) and I believe the UJ-845 is out now too (I think still
8x, though maybe expanded Dual Layer support). Prices have fallen, though
not proportionally, i.e. the different models tend to be similarly priced
online (Euro 120-150), therefore you might as well go for a UJ-835, which
I've seen as low as Euro 115.

Chris 


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Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew McCall
This isn't the article I was talking about, but it says a similar
thing to what I was saying:

http://www.lowendmac.com/misc/04/0601.html


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:22:17 +, Andrew McCall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:04:24 -0800, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been watching Pismos
  and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade.
 
  Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing
  his G3 900MHz upgrade.
 
  I wonder if I can solicit opinions
relative to advantages of each?
 
 I chose the G3 900MHz as I read a review that said that although the
 G4 had the advantages of the Altivec, the fact that the G3 was 400MHz
 faster managed to push it ahead in terms of raw speed, for instance,
 iTunes encodes faster with the G3 900MHz than with the G4 500MHz,
 despite it not having Altivec.
 
 I am sure there will be *some* cases where the G4/500MHz is a faster
 chip, but not many.
 
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Two-finger scrolling on older PowerBooks and iBooks.

2005-02-15 Thread Marcin Wichary
 Check this site here: 
http://www-users.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de/~razzfazz/

I installed the driver on my 2004's AlBook and it seems to work 
perfectly.

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Re: Two-finger scrolling on older PowerBooks and iBooks.

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 15/02/05 08:41, Marcin Wichary at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Check this site here:
 http://www-users.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de/~razzfazz/
 
 I installed the driver on my 2004's AlBook and it seems to work
 perfectly.

There is also uControl http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol/ which doesn't require
any hacking in the system and comes as an installer. You can scroll with it
but you can also remap meta keys (shift, control, etc.) to whatever you
want. Although uControl doesn't require you to do any hacking, it does some
hacking itself internally, but I've been using it for many months now
without any problem...

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Re: Two-finger scrolling on older PowerBooks and iBooks.

2005-02-15 Thread Marcin Wichary
  Check this site here:
http://www-users.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de/~razzfazz/
I installed the driver on my 2004's AlBook and it seems to work
perfectly.
There is also uControl http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol/ which doesn't 
require
any hacking in the system and comes as an installer.
Well, there's also Sidetrack [1], but both Sidetrack and uControl are 
old
news. Besides, two-finger scrolling is just plain cool and innovative. 
The version
I link to above also gives you the ability to scroll continuously like 
on iPod
-- something that, as far as I understand, even new PowerBooks won't 
let you.

[1] http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/index.html
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Re: Fuse in Yo-Yo?

2005-02-15 Thread John C. Swanson
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From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 00:12
To: G-Books
Subject: Fuse in Yo-Yo?

Is there a fuse inside the Yo-Yo power cord (for dual-USB iBook G3), and

if so is there any way to get in there and replace the fuse?

TIA, Bryan


I don't know if there is a fuse or not, but the Yo-Yo adapters are
completely glued together you can break them apart but they never go
back together right.  I took one apart one day when I was having a
momentary lapse of intelligence.  The battery was completely drained so
I plugged it in it didn't turn on so I thought that the adapter wasn't
working.  Later I remembered that it was work's Dell laptop that had the
blinking green charging light not my Pismo.  Oh well the frayed cord on
it was starting to worry me anyway, so a new one was in order.

I still have it and it works, but its just duct taped together.

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Re: Lombard superdrive

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
The 835 is only the way to go if you don't need a Region Free firmware update, 
which 
is not available yet on the 835 (not sure about 825).  The 815 has region free 
firmware and a backwards flasher to region locked (for warranty repairs so they 
can't 
blame the region hack).

This is the one dissappointment I had with my new PowerBook, I can no longer 
use it 
to watch my region 3 DVDs.

Andrew

On 15 Feb 2005 at 11:34, My Name wrote:

 On 15/02/2005 10:43, G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com wrote:
 
  Soo.. now it works, I want to know if anyone has managed to put a
  superdrive in one of the beasties. It should fit surely!   Any
  pointers to info?
  
  Ben
 
 No problem putting a Superdrive in. I'd suggest a slot-loading one, so that
 if you move to a G4 in the future you can take the Superdrive with you. As
 to models, the Panasonic UJ slot-loading drives are the way to go: UJ-815 is
 a 2x burner, UJ-825 is 4x (also does DVD+R), the UJ-835 is 8x (also DVD+R
 and Dual Layer disks) and I believe the UJ-845 is out now too (I think still
 8x, though maybe expanded Dual Layer support). Prices have fallen, though
 not proportionally, i.e. the different models tend to be similarly priced
 online (Euro 120-150), therefore you might as well go for a UJ-835, which
 I've seen as low as Euro 115.
 
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Re: Open Firmware for Powerbook Superdrive?

2005-02-15 Thread Luis Sequeira
I seem to recall someone talking about an Open Firmware update for the
Powerbook Superdrive which would allow it to use DVD-RW and also let it
burn at 2x speeds.
Does anyone have more information about that?
TjL
There is a firmware upgrade meant for at least some TiBooks with superdrives.
I have it installed (Powerbook G4 Titanium 1GHz) and have had no 
major issues with it, but mind you this is a totally unsupported 
thing, and you may well ruin your drive if something nasty happens 
during the upgrade.

This upgrade allowed me to burn DVD-R at 2x (originally 1x), and also 
to double the burning speed for CD-R (16x vs 8x) and CD-RW (8x vs 
4x). Support for DVD-RW, though, is not very consistent. I have 
burned one or two successfully, failed some others, but in at least 
one occasion an apparently successful burn produced a disk that 
wouldn't be recognized and was even hard to eject. In that event Disk 
Utility could not be used (it kept the spinning beach ball, 
apparently trying and trying to read this disk). I had to restart 
holding the mouse button to get that stubborn DVD-RW out of the drive.

Remember, this is *unsupported* and, if something goes wrong, can 
render your drive unuseable.

Luis Sequeira

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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
Re. BTO
Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!!
At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want
and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is
designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be
the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvious Apple
has done the right thing.
Look at a Dell and see what the BTO concept has done for their
range of laptops, they're shit!!
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now,
and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile.
Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me
as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I
debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner
and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an
interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy
myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size...
12 or 15
The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages...
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 12:34, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now,
 and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile.
 
 Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me
 as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I
 debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner
 and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an
 interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy
 myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size...
 
 12 or 15
 
 The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages...
 

Larry,

Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the
better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the
transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the
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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with
the Dell brand.  Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and
you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen
size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded
security and finger print readers.  They even let you choose the built-in
pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND the
touchpad.

Apple is getting better with video options on the 15 PowerBook, but for the
most part they come one way.  Yes, the Apple laptops are very well
integrated, but pick up a ThinkPad T42 and you will see the same build
quality and integration.  IBM used to even give you the option of Linux
instead of Windows, not sure if they still do that or not.

Using the car analogy that is so common, if Apple is selling BMW, comparing
to Dell you are comparing to Chevrolet, while IBM would represent Mercedes.
I have (and currently) own both Apple and IBM laptops, and there are
honestly things that I like better about each, not to mention a few areas in
which IBM's design is better than Apple's.

For example, hinges.  Any long time Apple laptop owner has likely had issues
with hinges.  My current 12 PowerBook is great, but my last 12 POwerBook,
while not loose, tended to bind a bit (new is smooth as glass).  Titanium PB
hinges flat-out break, as do those on Wallstreets, while Lombard and Pismo
hinges just get loose.

I've owned four ThinkPads over the years, and every single one of them had
firm, smooth and sturdy hinges that held up to hard use.

IBM's current T-series are very thin and light, weighing about the same as
my 12 PowerBook and being just as thin, though with a 14 screen and a
swappable drive bay that takes a second battery.  That is great design,
though Apple's trade-off is the wonderful slot-loading drive, which if they
put their design emphasis on it, could probably be made to work in a
removable bay, which could probably be crammed into the current form-fact.

What I'm saying is that Apple's design, while up there with the very best in
the industry, is not THE BEST in every area.  Other companies (Sony, Toshiba
to name two) also have design elements in their laptops that are innovative
and superior.  As Mac users we have it pretty good, but the fact that so
many people here hang on to their Pismo and Lombard models makes it pretty
clear that people value removable drives and multiple battery capability.
Starting with the Titanium, Apple abandoned those features, while IBM
continues to improve them with every revision to their T-series ThinkPad.

Andrew


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 Re. BTO
 
 Compare a PowerBook to a Dell Laptop!!
 
 At Dell you can configure your laptop just about any way you want
 and it is designed around this concept, while the PowerBook is
 designed the way all good Macs have always been designed, to be
 the way the design guys thought best, and so far it's obvious Apple
 has done the right thing.
 
 Look at a Dell and see what the BTO concept has done for their
 range of laptops, they're shit!!
 
 
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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 12:44, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with
 the Dell brand.  Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and
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 size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded
 security and finger print readers.  They even let you choose the built-in
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 touchpad.

Is this the reason why they sold their PC division to a Chinese company
because it was not profitable?

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the
better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the
transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the
office and back home every single day...
This is one of the main issues, yes!
I have now had a 12 and use a 15 1GHz AlBook at work and the
desktop realestate is quite different.
The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the patio
and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15
I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd like
to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study...
Like I said, the illuminated keyboard is a big one for me.
Gigabit Ethernet another, as FW800 and S-video out.
And I've just realised one of the real killers in the decision, the RAM!!
The 12 has 2x256 while the 15 has 1x512, making it much cheaper
to add more memory!!!
I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase;
As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but
what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with
Tiger installed ?!?
I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about
software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...)  ;o)
but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!...

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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure.  Anyway, ThinkPads have
been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will change
other than the location of the headquarters.

ThinkPads have always been profitable, but my take is that IBM wants to sell
eCommerce solutions, which laptop and desktop PCs don't really fit into.

Andrew


On 2/15/05 9:47 AM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 15/02/05 12:44, Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 That's not a fair comparison, Dell's laptops are generic Taiwan models with
 the Dell brand.  Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and
 you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, screen
 size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded
 security and finger print readers.  They even let you choose the built-in
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 touchpad.
 
 Is this the reason why they sold their PC division to a Chinese company
 because it was not profitable?
 
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
Good for you!

For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15
(combodrive) this time around.  The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would
the larger screen.  Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the
12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up
multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad.

What it really came down to was comfort.  I've owned the 12 (1GHz) for a
year and found that it really fit my lifestyle.  It is small enough to take
almost everywhere, and as a result, it is always there when I need it.  I've
had machines the size of the 15 before (T-series ThinkPad was my preferred
laptop in my Windows days) and while only around 5lbs and not too bulky, it
was just large enough that I often left it at home.  The little PowerBook,
on the other hand, is actually small enough that I don't bother with a PDA
anymore.

The screen on the 12 is fine (as you probably know).  It may be inadequate
if you do heavy content creation, but considering that until the Titanium
came out 1024X768 was the best you could do on a Mac laptop anyway, it
remains plenty for most of what a laptop is used for.  I only want more
resolution when doing things like video editing, for which I just plug in my
external monitor.

Andrew


On 2/15/05 9:34 AM, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now,
 and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile.
 
 Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me
 as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I
 debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner
 and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an
 interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy
 myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size...
 
 12 or 15
 
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Re: Battery Chargers

2005-02-15 Thread Frank P. Eigler
Disclaimer: I am not a tech.

Look at the wattage requirements/tolerances (?) of both 'books and
adapters. Higher W adapters can deal with lower W machines, but not
vice versa.

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, bobgir2004 wrote:

 I know I can research the answer on this, but I betcha one of you knows
 the answer right of the top of your head.

 The wife got a new iBook, G4, 14' screen in late 2004.

 My Dual-USB, G3, 12 iBook was purchased in early 2003.

 I'm guessing that when we travel and take the smaller, lighter G3, that
 we won't be able to charge its battery with the smaller, lighter battery
 charger unit that came with the G4.  Gotta drag that big, bulky yo-yo and
 it's stiff cord, instead?

 Right?  Wrong?

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 12:50, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Also think carefully about the screen. The usual motto is the more the
 better. Of course, for a laptop, that has to be compounded with the
 transportability factor. I have a 17 and has no problem carrying to the
 office and back home every single day...
 
 This is one of the main issues, yes!
 
 I have now had a 12 and use a 15 1GHz AlBook at work and the
 desktop realestate is quite different.
 
 The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the patio
 and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15
 I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd like
 to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study...
 
 Like I said, the illuminated keyboard is a big one for me.
 
 Gigabit Ethernet another, as FW800 and S-video out.
 
 And I've just realised one of the real killers in the decision, the RAM!!
 
 The 12 has 2x256 while the 15 has 1x512, making it much cheaper
 to add more memory!!!
 
 I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase;
 
 As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but
 what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with
 Tiger installed ?!?
 
 I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about
 software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...)  ;o)
 but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!...

There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it will be
at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, Tiger
is not ready for prime time yet.

But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of July, then
why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook might be
more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if they
are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to wait...

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it 
will be
at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen, 
Tiger
is not ready for prime time yet.

But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of 
July, then
why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook 
might be
more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if 
they
are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to 
wait...
Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either 
hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger 
version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge.

Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software.  
Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front 
line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing.

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it
 will be
 at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen,
 Tiger
 is not ready for prime time yet.
 
 But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of
 July, then
 why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook
 might be
 more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see if
 they
 are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to
 wait...
 
 Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either
 hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger
 version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge.
 
 Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software.
 Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the front
 line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing.
 
 TjL
 

That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some
insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but maybe not
as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a bit
after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first generation
was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium casing.
But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started appearing and
I've never wanted to get one at that time...

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Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

2005-02-15 Thread Mikael Bystrm

About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine! 

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this little RAM. 

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later upgraded
to 384MB). 

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including hardware
problems in this model? 

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?




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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
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For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive)
and 15 (combodrive) this time around.
My decision is combo either way as I want an external FW/USB2
dual layer +/- drive which I can use on any of the Macs in the house.
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More than nice for me, very practical. No light required.
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
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There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released.

But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning
of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors
of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you
will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released.
You see, you can always have a good reason to wait...
Yes, been there done that.
Bought my TiBook 550 three weeks before they fitted it with Combo
and bought my 15 AlBook a couple of weeks before they fitted it
with SuperDrive (I thin it was, or was there some other upgrade
on the standard machine ?)
In any case, the cash burning a hole in my pocket and my wife's
student discount does point towards an imminent purchase as
soon as I'm allowed out of the house. I am currently housebound
due to a 4 nail in my shoulder (intentially fitted to reconnect
my shoulder after a motorbike accident...)...
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Chris
On 15 Feb 2005, at 18:53, G-Books wrote:
The initial thought was a 12 for everywhere; sofa, outside on the 
patio
and then hook it up to a 17 TFT in my study, but if I went for the 15
I wouldn't have to switch between 1024 and 1280, sods law is that I'd 
like
to do something that required 1280 while not being in the study...

This is my wife's setup and I am becoming a believer. I love the 12 
form factor for travel, work in non-desk situations (plane, train, 
coffee shop, airport, living room sofa, etc.) and for when you're at 
home/office, a nice 17 external TFT monitor (they have really come 
down in price too!) gives you a superb 29 of screen real estate (if 
you have monitor spanning, which even my wife's G3/900 iBook has, 
thanks to the spanning hack) all for a lot less than the $3000 
sticker price of a 30-inch cinema HD! (not a fair comparison, I know, 
but the wife's setup is outstanding value at about $750 for the whole 
lot: used iBook and new Samsung 17 LCD). Everyone's needs are 
different, obviously. I'm now keeping my eyes peeled for a super deal 
on used 12 AlBook 1Ghz and up, with DVI for an external monitor. 
Sweet.

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 12:34 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:
The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages...
The only thing better than an illuminated keyboard is not needing one 
in the first place, because you touch-type...

But chances are if you truly do touch type without having to look at 
the keys at all, you type Dvorak, which has more freak factor than 
cool factor, unlike the illuminated keyboard.

I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since even 
my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated...

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
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Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either hardware 
(i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger version 0) 
unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge.
I am inclined to agreen as the current lineup have been seriously
upgraded and have some really nice features that were pay-extra
before.
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 14:23, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released.
 
 But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning
 of July, then why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors
 of a G5 PowerBook might be more persistent, so maybe you
 will want to wait in September to see if they are finally released.
 You see, you can always have a good reason to wait...
 
 Yes, been there done that.
 
 Bought my TiBook 550 three weeks before they fitted it with Combo
 and bought my 15 AlBook a couple of weeks before they fitted it
 with SuperDrive (I thin it was, or was there some other upgrade
 on the standard machine ?)
 
 In any case, the cash burning a hole in my pocket and my wife's
 student discount does point towards an imminent purchase as
 soon as I'm allowed out of the house. I am currently housebound
 due to a 4 nail in my shoulder (intentially fitted to reconnect
 my shoulder after a motorbike accident...)...
 

Sell the motorbike, you'll have enough cash to go all the way to the 17

And no more dealing with 4 nails in your shoulders!

;-)

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Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote:
For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 
15
(combodrive) this time around.  The lighted keyboard would be nice, as 
would
the larger screen.  Also, while I do travel and like the small size of 
the
12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up
multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad.
As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook?  Their max 
resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right?  Unless you got it for 
the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk?

Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?
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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 15/02/05 14:26, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote:
 
 For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and
 15
 (combodrive) this time around.  The lighted keyboard would be nice, as
 would
 the larger screen.  Also, while I do travel and like the small size of
 the
 12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up
 multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad.
 
 As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook?  Their max
 resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right?  Unless you got it for
 the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk?
 
 Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?

I would imagine that 14 1024 x 768 LCD displays are pretty cheap these
days. As soon as they would go up, then that would mean a more expensive
iBook 14. Plus, I'm not saying that they don't exist, but I've rarely seen
a 14 LCD display with a higher resolution than 1024 x 768. Cost must be
involved.

I guess that a 14 iBook makes sense for people that want a slightly larger
image or a more actual size of what's on the screen. At 1024 x 768 on the
12, everything appears smaller than it is actually...

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sell the motorbike, you'll have enough cash to go all the way to the 
17
It wasn't a normal motorbike, it was speedway (dirt track in the US)
www.speedwayworld.tv
Though not at that level...

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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Marcin Wichary
I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure.  Anyway, ThinkPads 
have
been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will 
change
other than the location of the headquarters.
I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand 
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew


On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:23, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:

 
 I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since even 
 my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated...
 

Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an airplane, 
it is the 
one most in need of the lighted keyboard.  I use a USB flylight (or my ThinkPad)

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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:26, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:

 As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook?  Their max 
 resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right?  Unless you got it for 
 the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk?
 
 Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?
 

There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the most 
important 
being that it is easier on the eyes.  My 12 PoewrBook and 14 Lombard have the 
same 1024X768 resolution (I think the Lombard uses the same screen as the 14 
iBook), and while the available real estate is exactly the same, the 14 is a 
lot nicer 
when working at a desk or reading text.  On the 12, I end up zooming the text 
on 
most websites and usually have my word documents set to 140% magnification 
(plenty of real estate for that), and end up with nice, readable text.  On the 
14 I do 
the same, mainly out of habit, and end up with giant-size text that is a 
pleasure to 
read, but looks freakishly large.

The 12 is definitely adequate, but the 14 is just a lot more relaxing.  Of 
course, the 
price is bulk.

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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
On 15 Feb 2005 at 14:32, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

 
 I would imagine that 14 1024 x 768 LCD displays are pretty cheap these
 days. As soon as they would go up, then that would mean a more expensive
 iBook 14. Plus, I'm not saying that they don't exist, but I've rarely seen
 a 14 LCD display with a higher resolution than 1024 x 768. Cost must be
 involved.
 
There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there.  IBM has 1600X1200 14 
panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well.

 I guess that a 14 iBook makes sense for people that want a slightly larger
 image or a more actual size of what's on the screen. At 1024 x 768 on the
 12, everything appears smaller than it is actually...
 
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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote:

  I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure.  Anyway, ThinkPads 
  have
  been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will 
  change
  other than the location of the headquarters.
 
 I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand 
 for five years to come.
 

Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity.  
Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they are 
already 
made in China) and keep the same philosophy.  I know they also got the IBM 
designers and engineers, so with any luck, nothing will change.

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OT - Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
Just looked it up.  Lenova has a 5-year-license on the Think names, including 
ThinkPad, and that is renewable.  Also, IBM will continue to sell the machine, 
only 
Lenovo will be the primary manufacturer (IBM owns an 18% stake in Lenovo.

There will still be IBM ThinkPads for years to come, but there will also be 
Lenovo 
ThinkPads, most likely sold in China and Asia, with the IBM models continuing 
in the 
US and Europe.  

This is a merger, not strictly a sale, kind of like the HP/Compaq merger.  We 
still 
have iPaqs, only they are called HP iPaqs now.

Hopefully that means that nothing will really change, if the IBM press release 
can be 
believed.  Check it out at 

http://www1.ibm.com/press/PressServletForm.wss?TemplateName=ShowPressRele
aseTemplateSelectString=t1.docunid=7450 

Andrew

On 15 Feb 2005 at 12:01, Andrew wrote:

 On 15 Feb 2005 at 20:41, Marcin Wichary wrote:
 
   I think they kept the ThinkPad division, not sure.  Anyway, ThinkPads 
   have
   been made in China for the last four years, so I suspect nothing will 
   change
   other than the location of the headquarters.
  
  I believe they sold the whole thing, and Lenovo can use ThinkPad brand 
  for five years to come.
  
 
 Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS equity.  
 Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as they 
 are already 
 made in China) and keep the same philosophy.  I know they also got the IBM 
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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread John C. Swanson
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Subject: Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

There are many higher resolution 14 screens out there.  IBM has
1600X1200 14 panels, and I'm sure other manufacturers do as well.

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 2:49 PM, Andrew wrote:
I'm not sure why all AlBooks didn't come with that keyboard, since 
even
my 12 had the same keys so it *could* be illuminated...

Especially since the 12 is more likely to be used in a bed or on an 
airplane, it is the
one most in need of the lighted keyboard.  I use a USB flylight (or my 
ThinkPad)
I had no problem typing on it, thanks to the Dvorak layout, it just 
didn't look so damn cool.

My iBook doesn't taunt me with looking like it has the capability.
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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 2:54 PM, Andrew wrote:
There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the 
most important
being that it is easier on the eyes.
I'll take easier on the back and shoulders carrying it around, 
personally!  But I guess some people leave them parked more than me...

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protection [was: Fuse in Yo-Yo?]

2005-02-15 Thread peter
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:28 AM, Ben Dyer wrote:
No, there's nothing but wires inside the cord. The device itself is a 
switchmode power supply (SMPS), and as such has built-in over-current 
and over-temperature protection. No fuses required.

This touches on a question that's been wandering around in my head.
	Do protections built into modern power adapters eliminate the need for 
surge protectors?

	The manual for my Aluminum PB seems to make no official statement on 
the subject, but it shows an illustration that indicates one is not 
needed.  This could be an oversight, however.  I plan on traveling to 
places where power fluctuations occur more often than in the US, so I'm 
interested in the wisdom of folks on this list.

TIA.

Peter

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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
On 15 Feb 2005 at 15:43, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:

 On 15-Feb-05, at 2:54 PM, Andrew wrote:
 
  There are reasons for the larger screen at the same resolution, the 
  most important
  being that it is easier on the eyes.
 
 I'll take easier on the back and shoulders carrying it around, 
 personally!  But I guess some people leave them parked more than me...
 

Me too, that's why I bought the 12 PowerBook, TWICE!

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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)

2005-02-15 Thread Chris
On 15 Feb 2005, at 20:21, G-Books wrote:
The 12 is definitely adequate, but the 14 is just a lot more 
relaxing.  Of course, the
price is bulk.

Andrew
I would love to see a 13.3 low- and wide-screen iBook with a 1280x800 
resolution. Played around with a Sony Vaio with that screen in a 
computer store and it was very nice, apart from the XP on the notebook. 
Cool black case too.

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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/15/05 2:26 PM, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook?  Their max
 resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right?  Unless you got it for
 the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and bulk?

Old eyes? I found the 14 easier to read than the 12. Also, taking
advantage of the extra size, the battery is larger so battery life is
significantly improved.
 
 Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?
 
Apple can - but keeping the iBook at 1024x768 is a way of differentiating
the iBook from the PowerBook line. Already the line is seriously blurred at
the 12 line.

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Re: protection [was: Fuse in Yo-Yo?]

2005-02-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/15/05 4:14 PM, peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do protections built into modern power adapters eliminate the need for
 surge protectors?

A couple years ago I was sitting at home online minding my own business when
the transformer down the way was struck by truck sending a surge through the
neighborhood. My TV, microwave, and thermostat were fried. So was my iBook's
power adaptor. Computer was fine. However, don't forget that surges can come
through the Ethernet line and phoneline if you are struck by lightning. We
took a direct hit at work two summers back. Took out the chimney! The surge
somehow didn't get the phones or electric but somehow jumped to Ethernet
cable and took out every NIC in every computer in the building. Insurance
company was a real PITA about settling - they'd never heard anything like it
before. So they said.

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Re: protection [was: Fuse in Yo-Yo?]

2005-02-15 Thread Clark Martin
At 4:14 PM -0500 2/15/05, peter wrote:
This touches on a question that's been wandering around in my head.
	Do protections built into modern power adapters eliminate the 
need for surge protectors?

	The manual for my Aluminum PB seems to make no official 
statement on the subject, but it shows an illustration that 
indicates one is not needed.  This could be an oversight, however. 
I plan on traveling to places where power fluctuations occur more 
often than in the US, so I'm interested in the wisdom of folks on 
this list.
There is a certain amount of cumulative protection.  That is having a 
power strip with surge protection means that the protection built 
into your computer won't have to work much.  And surge suppressors 
are usually rated for a total amount of energy absorbed, above that 
and they stop protecting.  So putting a protected power strip ahead 
of your equipment does protect your equipment better.

A laptop has a double layer of protection too, the external power 
supply has protection on the AC line and the power controller in the 
laptop protects against noise and surges coming in from the external 
power supply.  Thus a strong enough surge might blow the power supply 
but not hurt the laptop.  An external surge protector will add 
another layer of protection but it's more to protect the power supply 
than the laptop.

Personally I don't use an added surge protector with my laptop.  It's 
a convenience thing and basically I'm willing to risk the power 
supply as it's a  small risk.
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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread Clark Martin
At 2:26 PM -0500 2/15/05, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:
On 15-Feb-05, at 12:53 PM, Andrew F. wrote:
For me it was very difficult choosing between the 12 (superdrive) and 15
(combodrive) this time around.  The lighted keyboard would be nice, as would
the larger screen.  Also, while I do travel and like the small size of the
12, I'm not a student anymore and thus do not have to carry and set up
multiple times per day, so the 15 wouldn't be too bad.
As far as screen size go, does anyone here have a 14 iBook?  Their 
max resolution is 1024x768, same as the 12, right?  Unless you got 
it for the SuperDrive, why would someone want the extra weight and 
bulk?
To have a bigger screen!.  I have a 14 iBook (the machine I'm using 
now) and have used a 12 iBook.  While the 12 has a very good screen 
I wouldn't want to stare at it for extended periods.

IIRC you can special order the SuperDrive in an iBook 12.
Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?
Because then they would be PowerBooks.  Apple runs a fine line 
between putting enough features in the iBook line and not encroaching 
on the PowerBook line.
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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Andrew F. wrote:
 Look at a high-end IBM ThinkPad, the T42 for example, and
you find a build-to-order model that allows a choice of processors, 
screen
size, networking and connectivity options, even options for embedded
security and finger print readers.  They even let you choose the 
built-in
pointing device (the eraserhead, which I love) or the eraserhead AND 
the
touchpad.
And IBM lost money on their PC business for the last how many quarters?

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Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.

2005-02-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 01:01 PM, Andrew wrote:
Then they got a very good deal, as the ThinkPad brand has SERIOUS 
equity.
Hopefully, they maintain the same quality level (shouldn't be hard as 
they are already
made in China) and keep the same philosophy.  I know they also got the 
IBM
designers and engineers, so with any luck, nothing will change.
Then neither will the profitability. IBM has been losing GOBS of money 
doing things this way.

This is why one of the first things Steve Jobs did when he came back to 
Apple was reduce the model line to 4. The complexity's crept up, and 
now the model line is 5 again, but it's a rational 5. Well, call it 5.5 
with the eMac, but I expect the eMac is on it's way out.

I remember shopping for a laptop for out College Dean a few years back 
trying to sort out IBM's offerings. Whatta mess. (he's now supposed to 
get his 12 Powerbook any day now...)

Dell and Gateway are much the same: an assortment of boxes all slightly 
different.

NO one, it seems truly learned the Performa Lesson except Apple.
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Fed-up, selling WT for parts

2005-02-15 Thread Hector I . Macedo
Arrgg. I'm fed up with my Wallstreet starting when it wants and not 
when I do.

For sale for parts:
WS pb 233Mz with extra292Mz card , 385 Memory,  extra 64 mem. 
module,floppie drive, cd drive, battery,  PMCIA cards: USB, Firewire, 
56K Modem, all original cables, plus scsi cables for plugging it to 
other computers or externals, owners manuals and booklet of how to 
disassembly it. plus original cds.

Make me an offer.

Hector I. Macedo  Lord of the 
Flies	
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Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium
Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds,
And on the back a speckled feather binds;
So just the colours shine through ev'ry part,
That nature seems to live again in art.
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Re: Screen size and iBooks (was Re: New PowerBooks)0

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why can't they make iBooks display any higher resolutions, anyways?
Apple can - but keeping the iBook at 1024x768 is a way of 
differentiating
the iBook from the PowerBook line. Already the line is seriously 
blurred at
the 12 line.
Which is why when I wanted a faster machine, my 12 PB became a 12 
iBook...since I don't  use Bluetooth and the PB didn't have a 
SuperDrive anyways, and I need something compact...

A 14 screen at a bit higher resolution in an iBook price range might 
have made me consider it a bit longer than the half second I did, 
probably still wouldn't have bought it, though.

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Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
Does anyone else have problems using any browser other than IE, or is 
it just  me/my router/my ISP?  I've gotten along reasonably well with 
just IE until I installed Panther, where it seems to crash more, and 
until more sites started not working in IE...

I've tried Netscape, Opera, Camino, Mozilla, Firefox, Safari, iCab, and 
OmniWeb, always a similar problem.  There's a few sites I'm forced to 
use Camino for, like Gmail, so it's irritating.  In all of these 
browsers, I almost always have to stop-reload-stop-reload-stop-reload a 
zillion times before any page will load, though for some like Safari 
and OmniWeb, the first page or two will load, and then nothing else 
period (for Safari) or nothing else without the stop-reload thing 
frequently (OmniWeb).  iCab works very slightly better than OmniWeb, 
loads and doesn't load in fits and spurts, though it's lack of a bar at 
the top window and no preferences place that I can find.

The rest, you're lucky to even load the start page!
This occurs with all Macs connected to this network, wired or wireless, 
Jaguar or Panther.  It does not happen when the same machines are moved 
to another network using different providers and routers.  Changing 
ISPs is not an option.

Anyone else have this problem?  If so, what kind of router/ISP do you 
use?  Is there any sort of setting I have to change that's on by 
default for all these browsers?

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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

2005-02-15 Thread Nancy Lawrence
I too would really like to know about this.  I recently acquired a G4 
800mhz iBook and immediately upgraded it to a gig of RAM and I swear 
that it is slower at most tasks than my  400mhz Pismo, also with a gig 
of RAM.  I really expected a big difference in speed and I just haven't 
seen it.  Any ideas??

Nancy
On Feb 15, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM 
running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine!

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. 
Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the 
drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this 
little RAM.

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at 
times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 
dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed 
on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later 
upgraded
to 384MB).

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including 
hardware
problems in this model?

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect 
prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?


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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 15/02/05 18:49, - drive - drift - dream - at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone else have problems using any browser other than IE, or is
 it just  me/my router/my ISP?  I've gotten along reasonably well with
 just IE until I installed Panther, where it seems to crash more, and
 until more sites started not working in IE...
 
 I've tried Netscape, Opera, Camino, Mozilla, Firefox, Safari, iCab, and
 OmniWeb, always a similar problem.  There's a few sites I'm forced to
 use Camino for, like Gmail, so it's irritating.  In all of these
 browsers, I almost always have to stop-reload-stop-reload-stop-reload a
 zillion times before any page will load, though for some like Safari
 and OmniWeb, the first page or two will load, and then nothing else
 period (for Safari) or nothing else without the stop-reload thing
 frequently (OmniWeb).  iCab works very slightly better than OmniWeb,
 loads and doesn't load in fits and spurts, though it's lack of a bar at
 the top window and no preferences place that I can find.
 
 The rest, you're lucky to even load the start page!
 
 This occurs with all Macs connected to this network, wired or wireless,
 Jaguar or Panther.  It does not happen when the same machines are moved
 to another network using different providers and routers.  Changing
 ISPs is not an option.
 
 Anyone else have this problem?  If so, what kind of router/ISP do you
 use?  Is there any sort of setting I have to change that's on by
 default for all these browsers?
 

No problem here with Safari...

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Amber R.
I just have one question regarding the timing of the purchase;
As the G5 is some way off, the 1.5GHz is plenty good for me, but
what about Tiger, would it not be better buying the AlBook with
Tiger installed ?!?
I will always have access to Tiger later (no need to harp on about
software licensing, we all have different levels of conciense...)  ;o)
but maybe it'd be better to wait ?!...
Larry
Larry,
Since you suggest that you will always have access to Tiger,  there 
really isn't much of a reason to wait for it to be pre-installed on the 
PB's  is there ?   If the 1.5 GHz is going to suit your needs, I'd say 
go and buy one so you can start enjoying it now !

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread bee
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:46:32 -0500
Subject: Re: New PowerBooks
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it
will be
at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen,
Tiger
is not ready for prime time yet.
But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of
July, then
why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook
might be
more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see 
if
they
are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to
wait...
Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either
hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger
version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge.
Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software.
Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the 
front
line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing.

TjL
That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some
insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but 
maybe not
as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a 
bit
after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first 
generation
was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium 
casing.
But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started 
appearing and
I've never wanted to get one at that time...

-Laurent.
I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all 
over the net,
Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as 
the first
PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those 
problems
were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, 
now
it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, 
my office
mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also 
smooth as
silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth.

Brian

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew
Sometimes they are fine, but your chances of trouble are reduced by going with 
a 
mature product.

Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases that 
warped, 
making the machine wobble on a flat surface.  SOme did it, some didn't, but the 
problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler.

Andrew

On 16 Feb 2005 at 9:49, bee wrote:

  Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:46:32 -0500
  Subject: Re: New PowerBooks
  From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  On 15/02/05 13:40, Timothy Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Feb 15, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
  There is no saying as to when Tiger will be released. Many think it
  will be
  at the World Wide Developer Conference in June. From what I've seen,
  Tiger
  is not ready for prime time yet.
 
  But, if you're not in a hurry and can wait until the beginning of
  July, then
  why not waiting? But then, at that time, rumors of a G5 PowerBook
  might be
  more persistent, so maybe you will want to wait in September to see 
  if
  they
  are finally released. You see, you can always have a good reason to
  wait...
 
  Then again, I wouldn't recommend getting any .0 release of either
  hardware (i.e. the first batch of G5 Powerbooks) or software (Tiger
  version 0) unless you are comfortable sitting on the cutting edge.
 
  Me, I like a .2 release (i.e. Jaguar) for both hardware and software.
  Sure there are exceptions, but by and large, those who are on the 
  front
  line end up doing the last little bit of real-life beta testing.
 
  TjL
 
 
  That's a really good point, Tim. For example, I'm sure that, with some
  insight now, owners of Titanium PowerBooks are probably happy but 
  maybe not
  as happy as they would want, as a few flaws started coming out quite a 
  bit
  after they were initially introduced. I remember when the first 
  generation
  was released. They were beautiful, with their almost pure Titanium 
  casing.
  But then, stories about how the paint was peeling off started 
  appearing and
  I've never wanted to get one at that time...
 
  -Laurent.
 
 I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all 
 over the net,
 Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as 
 the first
 PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those 
 problems
 were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, 
 now
 it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. Also, 
 my office
 mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also 
 smooth as
 silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth.
 
 Brian
 
 
 
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Feb 15, 2005, at 7:49 PM, bee wrote:
I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all 
over the net,
Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as 
the first
PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those 
problems
were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, 
now
it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. 
Also, my office
mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also 
smooth as
silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth.
Ok, do you realize you're contradicting yourself?
You say There were problems with Rev A that were fixed and therefore 
Rev A concerns are a myth

HUH?
Ok, from the time that the first Ti500s came out until it was fixed, 
there were Rev A problems.  Once that was fixed, I would no longer 
consider that Rev A (maybe Rev A.1 or Rev A.01 or something).

I'm not saying All of the entire batch of Rev A G5 Powerbooks will be 
bad

What I am saying is, Given the history of Rev A products writ large 
[which have ranged from CD ejection to paint coming off to weak battery 
life / wifi signal], if you are looking to buy a Powerbook and will buy 
one of the first batch off the presses [Rev A.0], you have a much 
higher likelihood of running into problems than you do if you were to 
buy a G4 Powerbook at this point when the line is fairly well 
polished.

Does buying Rev A guarantee you problems and buying Rev Z guarantee you 
won't have problems?  Heck no.  But I'll stand by my suggestion that 
you'd be better off, statistically speaking, to avoid the potential 
problems.

Saying Rev A problems are a myth is absurd.  There's far too much 
evidence to the contrary.

TjL
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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:49 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:
It does not happen when the same machines are moved to another network 
using different providers and routers.  Changing ISPs is not an 
option.
If it doesn't happen when the machines are on another network, then 
there's a problem with your network connection, not your browser.

Have you tried removing the router and directly connecting one of the 
machines to your Internet connection?  It could be your router is bad.

If it isn't your software and it isn't your hardware, then your options 
are to live with it or get your ISP to help diagnose the problem.

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 8:06 PM, Andrew wrote:
Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases 
that warped,
making the machine wobble on a flat surface.  SOme did it, some 
didn't, but the
problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler.
No warping, but I've gotten mild burns through jeans while using the 
one I had on my lap...had no idea that any of the newer metal 12 ones 
were better, hence the iBook...

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew F.
They seem to run  cooler every revision.  I tried the Rev A in the Apple
Store and after just ten minutes playng with iTunes and exploring Jaguar the
machine was scalding hot (I didn't buy it).

I did buy the Rev B 12 last year, and it did get rather warm, but nowhere
near as bad as the Rev A models.

I bought the Rev D two-weeks-ago, and despite a 50% faster processor, it
runs at about the same temperature as the Rev B, or maybe a little cooler
(on account of the processor not being pushed as hard?).

They have definitely improved the product during the production run, but
more than the added features, the Rev B model had a totally new system board
design that addressed the majority of the heat issues.

Andrew


On 2/15/05 5:42 PM, - drive - drift - dream - [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 15-Feb-05, at 8:06 PM, Andrew wrote:
 
 Rev A on the 12 powerbook had serious heat issues and bottom cases
 that warped,
 making the machine wobble on a flat surface.  SOme did it, some
 didn't, but the
 problem is much reduced on the Rev B, which also runs much cooler.
 
 No warping, but I've gotten mild burns through jeans while using the
 one I had on my lap...had no idea that any of the newer metal 12 ones
 were better, hence the iBook...
 



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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 8:43 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
It does not happen when the same machines are moved to another 
network using different providers and routers.  Changing ISPs is not 
an option.
If it doesn't happen when the machines are on another network, then 
there's a problem with your network connection, not your browser.
Not strange settings my ISP or router would need set differently from 
default?  Argh.  I was hoping it might be something fixable on my end.

Have you tried removing the router and directly connecting one of the 
machines to your Internet connection?  It could be your router is bad.
Yeah, same thing happens, though.
If it isn't your software and it isn't your hardware, then your 
options are to live with it or get your ISP to help diagnose the 
problem.
If you don't die of old age on hold until someone picks up the phone, 
you find thhey don't seem to know dick all about Macs, and they say 
just use IE.

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Google refusal

2005-02-15 Thread Stuart Saunders
I am getting the following error trying to use Google. Looks official, 
could it be otherwise?
(Both Safari and Firefox on Pismo G4 10.3.7)

Thanks for any insights,
Stuart.
 Error
We're sorry...
... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus 
or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears 
that your computer or network has been infected.

We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again 
soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware 
remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other 
spurious software.

We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again on 
Google.

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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Amber R.
On 15-Feb-05, at 4:49 PM, bee wrote:
I will have to disagree with both of these comments, I hear this all 
over the net,
Never buy a Rev A. It is not true, when the Ti 500 first came out as 
the first
PowerBook G4 there were problems with ejection of CD's etc. those 
problems
were fixed by March of 2001, that's when I bought my Rev A Powerbook, 
now
it's almost 4 years old and I'm typing on it now. Rev A's are OK. 
Also, my office
mate across the hall from me has a Rev A G5 Dual 2 Ghz, it is also 
smooth as
silk. So the Rev A comments as far as I am concerned are a myth.

Brian
Well - sometimes you get a Rev A that gives you no trouble at all but 
it seems most have some sort of problem initially.  Even you admit that 
the first Ti 500 had problems with rejecting CD's.I still think 
it's wise to go with a product that has gone through a reasonable trial 
period.

I don't agree that the Rev A comments are  a myth.   They are backed by 
fact and personal experience from hundred's of Apple consumers.

Amber
BTW...you sort of contradict yourself in your comments.
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Re: New PowerBooks

2005-02-15 Thread Jason Rife
well, I chose the 15 myself, its on its way from china right now... 
with the superdrive
got it with a gov't employee discount, under 2k the way I ordered it..

On Feb 15, 2005, at 09:34, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I've had the new 1.5GHz 12 for a week now,
and must say that the upgrade was really worthwhile.
Excellent news!! Partly for you, obviusly, but also for me
as I have just sold my 12 AlBook, yes the one which I
debated over for a week, the one with a dent in the corner
and twisted frame. I also sold my iMac G4 FP and an
interim PB G4 667DVI, so now I'm gonna go out and buy
myself a brand new AlBook, just undecided about the size...
12 or 15
The illuminated keyboard has certain practical advantages...
Larry
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Re: Google refusal

2005-02-15 Thread Clark Martin
At 11:08 AM +0800 2/16/05, Stuart Saunders wrote:
I am getting the following error trying to use Google. Looks 
official, could it be otherwise?
(Both Safari and Firefox on Pismo G4 10.3.7)

At what point do you get this message, just by going to 
www.google.com, as a response to your search or using the Google 
search field (at least in Safari, don't know about Firefox)?

Thanks for any insights,
Stuart.
 Error
We're sorry...
... but we can't process your request right now. A computer 
virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and 
it appears that your computer or network has been infected.

We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again 
soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or 
spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses 
and other spurious software.

We apologize for the inconvenience, and hope we'll see you again 
on Google.

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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Feb 15, 2005, at 9:01 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:
On 15-Feb-05, at 8:43 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
It does not happen when the same machines are moved to another 
network using different providers and routers.  Changing ISPs is not 
an option.
If it doesn't happen when the machines are on another network, then 
there's a problem with your network connection, not your browser.
Not strange settings my ISP or router would need set differently from 
default?  Argh.  I was hoping it might be something fixable on my end.
Did it used to work and then stop?  It's highly unlikely IMO that 
there'd be some strange setting, unless your ISP was doing something 
very non-standard.

Have you tried removing the router and directly connecting one of the 
machines to your Internet connection?  It could be your router is 
bad.
Yeah, same thing happens, though.
Have you tried making a new administrator account on the computer, 
logging completely out of your old account and into the new account, 
and then try to connect?  I'm completely pulling this out of the air, 
but it might be worth a shot.

If it isn't your software and it isn't your hardware, then your 
options are to live with it or get your ISP to help diagnose the 
problem.
If you don't die of old age on hold until someone picks up the phone, 
you find thhey don't seem to know dick all about Macs, and they say 
just use IE.
Ah yes, the old tech support lemmings...
Let me guess, you live in a rural area with few broadband options?  
(there are NONE where I live, so I can relate)

TjL
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Re: protection [was: Fuse in Yo-Yo?]

2005-02-15 Thread Ben Dyer
On 16 Feb 2005, at 08:14, peter wrote:
This touches on a question that's been wandering around in my head.
	Do protections built into modern power adapters eliminate the need 
for surge protectors?

	The manual for my Aluminum PB seems to make no official statement on 
the subject, but it shows an illustration that indicates one is not 
needed.  This could be an oversight, however.  I plan on traveling to 
places where power fluctuations occur more often than in the US, so 
I'm interested in the wisdom of folks on this list.

	TIA.
SMPSs are inherently better than older transformer-based devices at 
filtering over-voltage (surge) and under-voltage conditions out, but 
spikes (e.g. due to lightning strikes) are still a problem. Of course, 
most consumer surge protectors aren't particularly effective against 
severe spikes either.

I'd say you'd generally be fine as far as the power supply is 
concerned, but if you plan on hooking into any hotel modem or ethernet 
jacks, you'll definitely want surge protectors for them.

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 15-Feb-05, at 11:36 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
Not strange settings my ISP or router would need set differently from 
default?  Argh.  I was hoping it might be something fixable on my 
end.
Did it used to work and then stop?  It's highly unlikely IMO that 
there'd be some strange setting, unless your ISP was doing something 
very non-standard.
Nope, it's been a problem the entire time I've had the Macs and tried 
to use any browser other than IE (first few months of my Mac use, I 
never tried any other browser, next several months I was on a different 
ISP).

Yeah, same thing happens, though.
Have you tried making a new administrator account on the computer, 
logging completely out of your old account and into the new account, 
and then try to connect?  I'm completely pulling this out of the air, 
but it might be worth a shot.
No, it's not a specific computer thing, I've run four different Macs on 
this connection and they've *all* had the same problem.  It'd have to 
be some default setting, if it were on the machines, so to fix them, 
I'd have to know what the thing was and how to fix it, rather than just 
 another default setup.

If it isn't your software and it isn't your hardware, then your 
options are to live with it or get your ISP to help diagnose the 
problem.
If you don't die of old age on hold until someone picks up the phone, 
you find thhey don't seem to know dick all about Macs, and they say 
just use IE.
Ah yes, the old tech support lemmings...
Let me guess, you live in a rural area with few broadband options?  
(there are NONE where I live, so I can relate)
No, I live in downtown Toronto, where you can get DSL through Sympatico 
or cable through Rogers (which, in a highly populated area, is far 
worse - used the free trial last year and it was horrible!  I'm not 
sure I thought to check other browsers during the short time we tried 
that, though...), and before we got DSL there was this line of sight 
from the CN Tower broadband thing that *never* worked.

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Re: Safari/Camino/non-IE browser problems?

2005-02-15 Thread Ben Dyer
Do you have similar problems connecting with other protocols (e.g. FTP, 
POP3, SMTP)? To me, the issues you describe seem similar to those 
caused by high rates of packet loss over your connection; however, the 
fact that IE works doesn't fit in with that hypothesis.

Just a check: try opening Terminal, and typing telnet www.apple.com 
80, hitting return, waiting a couple of seconds, typing GET /, and 
hitting return again. What happens? If everything is working correctly, 
you should see a large amount of text outputted within a few seconds of 
you typing the commands.

Cheers,
Ben
On 16 Feb 2005, at 10:49, - drive - drift - dream - wrote:
Does anyone else have problems using any browser other than IE, or is 
it just  me/my router/my ISP?  I've gotten along reasonably well with 
just IE until I installed Panther, where it seems to crash more, and 
until more sites started not working in IE...

I've tried Netscape, Opera, Camino, Mozilla, Firefox, Safari, iCab, 
and OmniWeb, always a similar problem.  There's a few sites I'm forced 
to use Camino for, like Gmail, so it's irritating.  In all of these 
browsers, I almost always have to stop-reload-stop-reload-stop-reload 
a zillion times before any page will load, though for some like Safari 
and OmniWeb, the first page or two will load, and then nothing else 
period (for Safari) or nothing else without the stop-reload thing 
frequently (OmniWeb).  iCab works very slightly better than OmniWeb, 
loads and doesn't load in fits and spurts, though it's lack of a bar 
at the top window and no preferences place that I can find.

The rest, you're lucky to even load the start page!
This occurs with all Macs connected to this network, wired or 
wireless, Jaguar or Panther.  It does not happen when the same 
machines are moved to another network using different providers and 
routers.  Changing ISPs is not an option.

Anyone else have this problem?  If so, what kind of router/ISP do you 
use?  Is there any sort of setting I have to change that's on by 
default for all these browsers?

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