Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
 DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
 Pismos.
 
 I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they
 show the symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.
 
 How do you know the LG model from any of the others?

It tells you in Apple System Profiler, or on the drive caddy it says
DRN-8080.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Scott Lawrence


On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:




DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
Pismos.



Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
buy a new one?


I tend to replace the mechanism, never tried to repair them.


are the units just standard Laptop IDE?

I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same  
connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a G4  
Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.


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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Scott Lawrence


On Jan 31, 2006, at 11:45 PM, James Sanderson wrote:



On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:



DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


How do you know the LG model from any of the others?


On mine, i was definitively able to tell by disassembling the unit.

Using a #0 phillips screwdriver, remove the two screws holding the  
plastic flap on the back, then the two insanely tiny screws on either  
side of the unit.  (notice that the two that go through plastic are  
about 2mm longer than the others)


You can then lift the unit out of the carrier.  The label is on the  
bottom.


:)

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 01/02/06 09:37, Scott Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jan 31, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:
 
 
 DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
 Pismos.
 
 Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
 buy a new one?
 
 I tend to replace the mechanism, never tried to repair them.
 
 are the units just standard Laptop IDE?
 

Yes, they are all IDE or ATAPI in the case of CD-ROM/DVD drives. Maybe not a
familiar form factor but it should be standard.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Dylan McDermond


On Feb 1, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Scott Lawrence wrote:
I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same  
connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a  
G4 Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.


There is an adapter board on the back of the drive. Under the adapter  
is the standard laptop drive connector. I used a Samsung combo drive  
from a dell in my wife's Pismo.


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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-02-01 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
 are the units just standard Laptop IDE?
 
 I saw the connector on the back, and it seemed to be the same
 connector as on the back of the slot loading drive I pulled from a G4
 Cube, but I'm unfamiliar with that formfactor.

Yup.

Should be a drive set to Master, and if you use a different drive the front
bezel won't fit.

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Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread Scott Lawrence

Hi all.  I just joined.

I recently came into posession of a broken G3 Powerbook Pismo.  It  
seemed relatively complete (no hard drive, no keyboard, no psu, but  
cpu, ram, dvd-rom, battery).  I borrowed a 3400 from work, and tried  
out the pismo with it, but nothing.


I completely disassembled it, down to the power connector, to find  
that it had sheared from the board:

http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0562

so I desoldered, straightned, and reconnected it:
http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0566

I plugged it all back together, along with a 20gig spare drive I had,  
and it gave me the ? Folder.  YAY!


I just got done installing OS 9 on a 1 gig partition, and OS 10.2 on  
the remaining partition.  It all works really well.


(I do still need a shield for the ram/cpu area, keyboard, and power  
supply)


I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that  
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the  
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it  
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.


Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

-s

(I've also got a 15 TiBook 500 (Rev A), and my current machine, a  
15 AlBook 1.67ghz... which belong to work, but for all intents and  
purposes, my machines.)


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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread Malcolm Cornelius

 I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that
 over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the
 stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it
 doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.
 
 Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in Pismos.

I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they show the
symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread Scott Lawrence

On Jan 31, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:

I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.

Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?


DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and  
buy a new one?


As mentioned in the previous post, I'm not afraid to bring a  
soldering iron to the thing.


-s

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread Malcolm Cornelius

 DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in
 Pismos.

 Is there any way to repair it?  Or should I just toss the drive and
 buy a new one?

I tend to replace the mechanism, never tried to repair them.

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread Tom and Lisa Peters

Hi all.  I just joined.

I recently came into posession of a broken G3 Powerbook Pismo.  It 
seemed relatively complete (no hard drive, no keyboard, no psu, but 
cpu, ram, dvd-rom, battery).  I borrowed a 3400 from work, and tried 
out the pismo with it, but nothing.


I completely disassembled it, down to the power connector, to find 
that it had sheared from the board:

http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0562

so I desoldered, straightned, and reconnected it:
http://www.umlautllama.com/gallery/pismo/IMG_0566

I plugged it all back together, along with a 20gig spare drive I 
had, and it gave me the ? Folder.  YAY!


I just got done installing OS 9 on a 1 gig partition, and OS 10.2 on 
the remaining partition.  It all works really well.


(I do still need a shield for the ram/cpu area, keyboard, and power supply)

I just finally found my 10.4 DVD-R, and was about to install that 
over 10.2, to find out that for some reason, the DVD-ROM drive (the 
stock apple one) doesn't seem to read DVD-R discs... or at least, it 
doesn't read DVD-R discs that I've burnt.


Is this a common problem, or am I doing something wrong on my end?

-s

(I've also got a 15 TiBook 500 (Rev A), and my current machine, a 
15 AlBook 1.67ghz... which belong to work, but for all intents and 
purposes, my machines.)


--
Scott Lawrence
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Nice rework on the sound/AC board.

From what I gather the lombard/pismo DVDs are getting flaky by now. 
Luckily, you can replace the mechanisms with a number of other 
devices you can find on Ebay.  This is a good reference page:


http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html#dvdr

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Re: Hi! (and Pismo DVD-ROM issue)

2006-01-31 Thread James Sanderson


On 31 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Malcolm Cornelius wrote:



DVD drive failure is common for the LG model DVD drives used in  
Pismos.


I get many enquiries for replacement DVD drives, and often they  
show the

symptom of reading CDs but not DVDs or vice versa.


How do you know the LG model from any of the others?

Jim Sanderson

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sticky drawer on Pismo DVD drive

2006-01-03 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor
I've been trying to sort out a Lombard for my father in law and I have 
a 6x DVD drive that seems to work OK once you get the drive closed.
The drawer binds as I try and close it, sometimes I have to open it and 
clse it several times before I can get it to close all the way.

Once it's closed  it works fine.
There seems to be a lot of friction in the slides so either something's 
jumped the track or something needs lubrication.
If I can't find anything obvoiusly out of line I'm thinking of a little 
silicon lube on the slides.


Any suggestions?

Thanks

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technology is the answer, what was the question?


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Re: Pismo DVD RW drive query?

2005-12-23 Thread Dan K
Can anyone please confirm if either of these drives will work in a Pismo?
a Pioneer DVR-K05? or a Panasonic UJ-835-B?

Either would work great. You may however need to mod the expansion bay's 
interface board to force the new drive to 'bus Master' status. See my 
page for a detailed explanation:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/PB_99_2K_EBM_sled.html

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Pismo DVD RW drive query?

2005-12-22 Thread kaldav

Hello,
Can anyone please confirm if either of these drives will work in a Pismo?
a Pioneer DVR-K05?
or a Panasonic UJ-835-B?
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-09 Thread chris
DVD movies are fine on this one. Retail and DVD-R.

Thanks!

Now I'll pick up a drive off ebay from a Dell or similar and get it 
installed in my Pismo.


Thanks to everyone else as well for their advice on this topic.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-09 Thread Dan K
chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now I'll pick up a drive off ebay from a Dell or similar and get it 
installed in my Pismo.
Why bother with eBay when new superdrives are available from regular 
retail channels for (usually) less than going eBay prices?

zipzoomfly has the Pioneer DVR-K05 for under US$90.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=171021

BTW, here's my page on Lombard/Pismo expansion bay optical drive swaps:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/PB_99_2K_EBM_sled.html

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Dec 8, 2005, at 2:03 PM, chris wrote:


Has anyone done this? Bought a drive and swapped the internals into  
the
shell for the Pismo? Does it work? Do you lose the ability to play  
DVDs

when you do that?


My Pismo has a slot-loading drive from a newer TiBook in it (I  
happened upon the drive). The drive itself fit right onto the carrier  
for the Pismo drive. The bezel doesn't fit, so it looks a little  
unfinished, someday I may get around to hacking it so it does fit.


Everything works, burning disks and watching DVD's.

xlr8yourmac.com has a wealth of info about this, too.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread Robert Alcorn

Chris,
I bought an external case (firewire,usb) 50 bucks or less and then 
bought a standard internal IDE/ATA
 cd-r 52x16x24 at compusa or staples for about 40 or 50 bucks, look for 
sales. Put them together, plug it into your pismo and there you have an 
external burner. It works great. I even have a usb only cd-r external 
box that I use all the time. I use toast 5.0 or 5.2 lite or titanium 
for the program. Do not forget to install the driver (toast) first. 
Also great for an external HD use. Good Luck.

On Dec 8, 2005, at 4:03 PM, chris wrote:

I'm looking to change the DVD drive in my Pismo to one that can burn 
CDs.

I don't want to lose the DVD reading abilities however.

I checked around, and such drives exist, but they are VERY expensive.
However, I've heard that the drives themselves are a standard laptop
drive sitting in the shell. In checking for generic laptop drives that
support DVD reading and CD writing, they seem to be much more 
affordable

(tons on ebay pulled from Dells and the likes).

Has anyone done this? Bought a drive and swapped the internals into the
shell for the Pismo? Does it work? Do you lose the ability to play DVDs
when you do that?

Any other options out there to get CD writing without spending a 
fortune

and without needing to carry an external drive?

-chris
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread Dylan McDermond


On Dec 8, 2005, at 1:03 PM, chris wrote:


Has anyone done this? Bought a drive and swapped the internals into  
the
shell for the Pismo? Does it work? Do you lose the ability to play  
DVDs

when you do that?


I replaced the dying DVD-ROM in my wife's Pismo with a Samsung combo  
drive from a Dell laptop. I swapped the internals in the caddy and  
used Patchburn to fully support burning. A little fine sanding and  
superglue on the bezel and you can hardly tell it's not the original.


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread Seth Austen

On Dec 8, 2005, at 4:03 PM, chris wrote:

Has anyone done this? Bought a drive and swapped the internals into  
the

shell for the Pismo? Does it work?


Yes, when the original LG CD drive died I replaced it with a Sony DVD/ 
CD-RW drive, works fine. I never got the faceplate to fit, so it  
looks a little funky.


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread chris
I replaced the dying DVD-ROM in my wife's Pismo with a Samsung combo  
drive from a Dell laptop. I swapped the internals in the caddy and  
used Patchburn to fully support burning. A little fine sanding and  
superglue on the bezel and you can hardly tell it's not the original.

Can you still play DVD movies with it? I know Patchburn lets you make non 
Apple burners work with Apple tools, but I wasn't sure if you lost the 
ability to play DVDs by going with a 3rd party drive.

I base this fear on the fact that I can't play DVDs using a 3rd party DVD 
drive on my iMac DV (its internal DVD drive has eject problems, so I try 
not to use it much). However, I freely admit that I don't know if the 
failure is because it is a 3rd party drive, or because it is external.

As such, I'm just looking for a confirmation that the Pismo, when using a 
3rd party drive to replace the original internal DVD drive, will still 
allow you to play DVD movies. If I can get that confirmation, I'll take 
the jump and get myself a DVD/CD-RW drive and make the swap.

-chris
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD-RW drive

2005-12-08 Thread Dylan McDermond


On Dec 8, 2005, at 8:40 PM, chris wrote:


Can you still play DVD movies with it? I know Patchburn lets you  
make non

Apple burners work with Apple tools, but I wasn't sure if you lost the
ability to play DVDs by going with a 3rd party drive.


DVD movies are fine on this one. Retail and DVD-R.

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Pismo DVD formats

2005-11-26 Thread Frank Cornew

Tony:

Am using a GoVideo VR3930 precisely for this. Probably not available 
any more, but newer models should be good.


Extremely happy with the unit.

It has a firewire (aka iLink or IEEE 1392?) interface, so I can copy 
directly from my sony camcorder, and the VR3930 controls the camera.


I haven't attempted to hook up directly  to the Pismo.
Uses DVD-R and DVD-RW, think that the mac line currently uses DVD+R, 
shouldn't be an issue with finished disks. Just means that you will 
need stocks of different media if you get a more current mac. They 
play in my Pismo, but my Pismo drive is a bit flaky so I occasionally 
get dirty disk aborts. (further comment, listies?). Am about to 
replace the (matsushita) drive in the Pismo EB with a burner soon.


Reviews mentioned quality issues with GoVideo units. Believe they 
were directed at a previous model, and this one was put on the market 
in early 2004. At any rate, I had an opportunity to buy this one at 
Costco at a very good price, and I haven't regretted it.


I am finishing up transcribing 350 VHS tapes to DVD and will then 
proceed to attack a stack of mini DV tapes. Some tapes play better 
out of a panasonic deck that seems to be more tolerant of tracking 
issues than the one


One feature I really like about this thing is the ability to 
automatically skip all the ads on a commercial DVD and go directly to 
the movie. Very nice with children's videos.


F.




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Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:56:19 +

Advice please - I'm considering buying a combo DVD/VHS recorder so I
can transfer old VHS material (both personal and off-air TV) to  a
recordable DVD format and thence onto my Pismo for viewing aware from
home. Any recommendations for best recordable DVD format and brand to
work in the Pismo DVD drive? I am UK-based. Thanks! TONY
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Re: Pismo DVD formats

2005-11-26 Thread Dylan McDermond


On Nov 26, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Frank Cornew wrote:



Uses DVD-R and DVD-RW, think that the mac line currently uses DVD 
+R, shouldn't be an issue with finished disks. Just means that you  
will need stocks of different media if you get a more current mac.


No, the G5's use Pioneer DVR109's  for Superdrives (although I  
think that they are up to DVR 110's now). That drive will burn both +  
and - formats as well as + dual layer.


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Pismo DVD formats

2005-11-24 Thread Tony Coult
Advice please - I'm considering buying a combo DVD/VHS recorder so I  
can transfer old VHS material (both personal and off-air TV) to  a  
recordable DVD format and thence onto my Pismo for viewing aware from  
home. Any recommendations for best recordable DVD format and brand to  
work in the Pismo DVD drive? I am UK-based. Thanks! TONY

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Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

2005-09-13 Thread Ed Zelinsky
How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm 
running OSX.


Thanks!


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

2005-09-13 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 13/09/05 11:07, Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
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What do you mean exactly by monitor or check the status?

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

2005-09-13 Thread Ed Zelinsky
I'm sorry... is there an application that controls the player or is it  
just an automatic thing? One minute it was playing both formats and  
just stopped and wont read any disks...

On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


On 13/09/05 11:07, Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
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Re: Pismo DVD/CD quit suddenly

2005-09-13 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 13/09/05 11:53, Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sorry... is there an application that controls the player or is it
 just an automatic thing? One minute it was playing both formats and
 just stopped and wont read any disks...
 On Sep 13, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 On 13/09/05 11:07, Ed Zelinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How do you monitor or check on the status of your DVD/CD player? I'm
 running OSX.
 
 
 What do you mean exactly by monitor or check the status?
 
 -Laurent.

Device control is integrated into the system. The device is always ready.
You put a disk in and it should appear on the desktop. I am assuming here
that we are talking about an internal CD/DVD drive. If it suddenly stopped
reading any disk, then I guess there is a problem with it. If you have
another CD/DVD drive in another Mac, you can try those disks there just to
be sure.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

2005-09-03 Thread csean


On Sep 2, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.
series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only
drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can
either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as
some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from
the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.
I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks
great.



While this is completely true, Panasonic has reportedly  
discontinued all

of the drives mentioned, in favor of the UJ-845-B.

It is the UJ/UJDA-8xx (where xx is 10, 20, 30, etcetera, but *not* 45)
which is completely compatible with the bezel of the Mac PBs, as
described above.



Don't know about what's been discontinued or not, but the drives are  
easy to find on ebay. The important thing, as I mentioned, is to get  
a TRAY-loading model. The UJ-845 is a slot-loader, which does work  
fine in the Pismo, but obviously you can't use the original bezel  
At least, not without cutting a slot in it! Though it should be noted  
further that some online stores (MCE, Wegener Media, etc.) do sell  
slot-loading drives for the Pismo with a Pismo bezel on them.  
Probably custom-made, custom-cut solutions.


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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

2005-09-02 Thread csean


On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:30 PM, G-Books wrote:


The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.



The SR-8174-C 6X Mfgd 2000 (Pismo) and the SR-8173-C ?X Mfgd 1999
(Lombard) both seem to work well.

I've replaced both with up-to-date writeable and rewriteable  
drives, with

good success, except for cosmetics.

One way to solve that would be to make an RTV mold of the Apple bezel,
and then graft a cast piece onto the replacement drive's door.

There's enough room to do this as the replacement drive sits slightly
inside the Lombard/Pismo case.


Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.  
series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only  
drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can  
either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as  
some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from  
the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.  
I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks  
great.


Chris





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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive

2005-09-02 Thread PeterH5322

Many Matshita tray-loading DVD-R burners from the UJ-810/811/etc.  
series can use the original  Matshita bezel from the DVD read only  
drive. Both have 3 small screws and 2 line up perfetcly; you can  
either leave the 3rd screw out (the tray still works fine) or, as  
some people have done, drill a 3rd hold in the plastic (far away from  
the mechanism, so not TOO risky) that lines up with the 3rd screw.  
I've done this on a Pismo with a UJ-810 and a UJ-811, and it looks  
great.

While this is completely true, Panasonic has reportedly discontinued all 
of the drives mentioned, in favor of the UJ-845-B.

It is the UJ/UJDA-8xx (where xx is 10, 20, 30, etcetera, but *not* 45) 
which is completely compatible with the bezel of the Mac PBs, as 
described above.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-31 Thread Robert Eye
Go to 

http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso

and search the drive compatibility database. Over 100
entries for Combo DVD-CDR (under Select a Mac Model,
use PowerBook G3 2000 Rage128 Mobility). At least one
mention there about the quality of the LM drive.

Most all of the entries are for the expansion bay -
having never owned a Pismo, I assume this is the most
common way of integrating this type of drive?

You might try these guys for a replacement drive

http://www.centrix-intl.com/fulllist.asp

I haven't used them and have no financial interest in
them; I found them while looking for a CDRW to put in
my son's new (to him) clamshell iBook (I was planning
on buying one from them, but my son decided he didn't
need/want CDRW capability).

Just because these drives are obsolete from a
production standpoint, there's no reason to not use
the drive (new or pre-owned). Heck, the Pismo is
obsolete.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

--- K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good evening Lista's,
 My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south.. 
 Does anyone know if 
 the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for
 the Pismo as a 
 replacement?  I am really tired of screwing around
 with the LG to get it 
 working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the
 table in order to get 
 it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in
 it...Once it recognizes 
 that something is there, it works fine..but it it's
 a real pain to do 
 that every time and the rest of the family is really
 PO'd about it...
 If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone
 that has a working 
 complete unit, please respond off line...
 My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it
 seems to be runing 
 like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba
 hd 10.42
 Regards and thanks in advance,
 Mike K

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-31 Thread Alan Miller

On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:40 PM, Robert Eye wrote:


Heck, the Pismo is obsolete.


Waa..
Now you had to go and burst my bubble I finally thought I was using a  
current machine ;-P

HaHa.

I just got my pismo this month, since I got my wife a TiBook 667 to  
replace it.

I then got to move from a lombard to the pismo my wife was using:-)
It loaded 10.4.2 like a champ. Tossed in a 5400 RPM drive and more  
RAM, still waiting on another 512

Runs great!

I will say the lombard is obsolete since it can't install 10.4 only  
10.3.9 and lower.

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-31 Thread PeterH5322

I will say the lombard is obsolete since it can't install 10.4 only  
10.3.9 and lower.

True, but with XPostFacto ...

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-31 Thread Jeff Drummond


On Aug 31, 2005, at 12:29 pm, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Good evening Lista's,
My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if
the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a
replacement?



The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.  
Unlike
it's evil twin, the Matshita drive is fairly reliable. You can still  
find them

used on eBay. It's only a DVD-ROM though, so no disk burning. :(

Because of the Pismo's slightly curved sides no other drive--slot or  
tray--

will be an exact fit, although some don't look too bad (YMMV).



I am really tired of screwing around with the LG to get it
working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the table in order  
to get

it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in it...Once it recognizes
that something is there, it works fine..but it it's a real pain to do
that every time and the rest of the family is really PO'd about it...
If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone that has a working
complete unit, please respond off line...
My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it seems to be runing
like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba hd 10.42



If you need another partially working LG drive let me know--I have one
available for cheap! :) :(

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-31 Thread PeterH5322

The Matshita SR-8174-C drive and sled (you'll need both) is the other
major OEM drive that was used on the Pismo and will fit perfectly.  

The SR-8174-C 6X Mfgd 2000 (Pismo) and the SR-8173-C ?X Mfgd 1999 
(Lombard) both seem to work well.

I've replaced both with up-to-date writeable and rewriteable drives, with 
good success, except for cosmetics.

One way to solve that would be to make an RTV mold of the Apple bezel, 
and then graft a cast piece onto the replacement drive's door.

There's enough room to do this as the replacement drive sits slightly 
inside the Lombard/Pismo case.

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Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-30 Thread K

Good evening Lista's,
My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if 
the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a 
replacement?  I am really tired of screwing around with the LG to get it 
working...It hast to be ejected and smacked on the table in order to get 
it to recognize that there is a dvd or  cd in it...Once it recognizes 
that something is there, it works fine..but it it's a real pain to do 
that every time and the rest of the family is really PO'd about it...
If anyone on list happens to have or knows someone that has a working 
complete unit, please respond off line...
My son has now installed Tiger on this Pismo and it seems to be runing 
like a raped ape!!  Pismo 400..1gb ram 10gb Toshiba hd 10.42

Regards and thanks in advance,
Mike K

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Re: Pismo DVD/CD drive ???

2005-08-30 Thread PeterH5322

In a message dated 8/30/05 9:11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My 3rd LG (POS!!!)  CD/DVD drive has gone south..  Does anyone know if 

the Mat unit (drive and sled) is a perfect match for the Pismo as a 

replacement?


The MATSHITA (Panasonic) drive in the machine is obsolete, and Panasonic is 
not making any more tray loading drives.

Every one has been replaced by the UJ-845-B, which is a slot loader, is +/- 
everything, and is two-layer DVD-R-R/W.

Sadly, this isn't on Apple's approved list, so you will have to use 
PatchBurn to support it.

A perhaps better choice is the Pioneer DVR-K05, which IS supported by 10.4, 
but is not by 10.3 without PatchBurn.

This Pioneer drive has a tray loading variant.

I have both of these drives in my Lombard and Pismo, and they are fine for 
DVD playing and CD reading and writing, but I have yet to successfully burn a 
DVD with these.

The fine print on these drives is they work best with an 80-wire/40-pin 
cable, but that is NOT the way they can be installed in a laptop, although 
there 
ARE adapters which are intended for installing these drives in Shuttle type 
PeeCees, and which DO support 80-wire/40-pin cables.

Perhaps this is the old multiword vs DMA issue with some of the PowerPCs?

Anyway, I know of no currently manufactured drive which will accept the 
Lombard/Pismo bezel, and the same is true of the MCE drives for the Wallstreet.

The tray loading Pioneer drive (DVR-K15?) is just enough different in the 
bezel attachment area that is is a NO-GO.

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Pismo DVD burner

2005-04-17 Thread Kevin Bellerose



Looking for a superdrive for my Pismo, has anyone had any luck with a
UJ-845-B? Anyone have any suggestions for one that will slot load,boot osx
and work with native apple apps. I have seen recommendations for older
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Re: Pismo DVD

2005-04-06 Thread John Roberts
The later model G3 books and earlier model G4 books are notorious for 
not mounting CD/DVDs. I have the first G4, (Mercury), and I'm 
currently on my third drive. The consensus in the discussion forums on 
Apple's website is that there is an OS or firmware problem in the 
computers. People have been yelling at Apple about this for years.

Try resetting the computer, with power off, by pushing that little 
button on the back edge. If that fails, try resetting parameter RAM, 
which I forget how to do.

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Re: Pismo DVD

2005-04-06 Thread Lorance Stinson
On Apr 6, 2005 9:42 PM, John Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try resetting the computer, with power off, by pushing that little
 button on the back edge. If that fails, try resetting parameter RAM,
 which I forget how to do.
Yeah, I tried all that and more. I am going to call the seller and see
if there is anything he can do. I've pretty much resolved to get a
combo drive replacement. Thanks though. I hope the combo drive in my
G4 Ti 667 does not have the same problems.

Thanks for your help everyone. I think getting a new drive will be the
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Pismo DVD problem

2005-04-05 Thread Lorance Stinson
I have recently bought two PowerBooks from a used Mac dealer. The
Pismo so far has had a dead battery, mailed back to the seller, and is
having issues mounting DVDs. When we got it we put a movie in and
nothing happened, but the second movie worked fine. It can use CDs
just fine but will not mount any of our DVD movies. I have installed
software from CD-ROM, played music CDs and loaded CD-Rs, they all work
fine. It had 9.2 installed which updated it's self to the latest and
greatest. I've tried resetting every thing and still nothing. Any
suggestions before I pester the seller again? He's a really nice guy
and I don't want to bother him if it's a simple fix.

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Re: Pismo DVD

2005-04-05 Thread Chris
On 5 Apr 2005, at 22:20, G-Books wrote:
Subject: Pismo DVD problem
I have recently bought two PowerBooks from a used Mac dealer. The
Pismo so far has had a dead battery, mailed back to the seller, and is
having issues mounting DVDs. When we got it we put a movie in and
nothing happened, but the second movie worked fine. It can use CDs
just fine but will not mount any of our DVD movies. I have installed
software from CD-ROM, played music CDs and loaded CD-Rs, they all work
fine. It had 9.2 installed which updated it's self to the latest and
greatest. I've tried resetting every thing and still nothing. Any
suggestions before I pester the seller again? He's a really nice guy
and I don't want to bother him if it's a simple fix.
Unfortunately it's a pretty common problem with Pismo DVDs, especially 
given their age now. They often have work only half right, i.e., the 
either read CDs fine but not DVDs, or vice versa. Really no good fix 
for them, you'll have to look for a new DVD/CD; though while you're at 
it you might as well get a Combo CDRW/DVD or a Superdrive. Lots of good 
cheap models are perfectly compatible. See the web site 
www.xlr8yourmac.com for a good database and feedback on specific models 
that work. If you can get a partial refund from the guy, say $40 or so, 
that might be the way to go, as you could find a Combo on ebay for the 
same money.
Good luck.
Chris

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Re: Pismo DVD problem

2005-04-05 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 5, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Lorance Stinson wrote:
I have recently bought two PowerBooks from a used Mac dealer. The
Pismo so far has had a dead battery, mailed back to the seller, and is
having issues mounting DVDs. When we got it we put a movie in and
nothing happened, but the second movie worked fine. It can use CDs
just fine but will not mount any of our DVD movies.
The LG CD/DVD drives in the Pismos are notoriously flaky.
Wegener Media sells replacements and kits to put in other drives, up to 
Superdrives that are pretty reasonably priced, relatively speaking.

In mine I came across a working slot-loading CDRW/DVD drive from a 
defunct TiBook. The drive fit right onto the carrier and plugged right 
in.

There's no bezel on it, so it's just hanging out there. I may get 
ambitious and see if I can retrofit the one from the broken drive, but 
that's going to involve some serious Dremel work.

XLR8YourMac.com has reports of various modules that are known to work 
with the Pismo.

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Pismo DVD Drive

2004-10-30 Thread K

I know I could buy her a new DVD drive for the Pismo, either s/hand 
via eBay or even (at considerable expense...) new. But this is an old 
machine, and I'm not sure I want to spend too much money keeping it 
fettled. The other possibility that's occurred to me is to buy an 
external firewire optical drive. I believe LaCie do one (several?). 
Has anyone got any experience of running an external firewire DVD 
drive on an older PB? - Pismo or Lombard via a firewire port in a card?

Tom Burke
First off you may be able to fix your DVD drive. If the laser reader 
gets dust on it the drive will run as yours does but won't be able to 
read the data on the disk. You can try either a CD lens cleaner disk 
or one of those small cans of compressed air sold for camera lens etc. 
This has fixed many drives thought dead.
I have a Pioneer DVD RW 105(A05) drive which I put in a Firewire 
case. ADS Pyro brand never had any problem with this combo. It is seen 
as an Apple Super drive by both my desktop and Pismo machines. With 
Jaguar I needed some hacks for everything to work. Panther everything 
works with no hacks on my Apple desktop. Even iDVD and DVD player work 
fine. best of luck. Will S


Check the system profiler and see if it is an LG drive...I had one in 
this Pismo and one day back in July, it suddenly stopped mounting DVD's 
but did mount CD's...Called A/C and they tried firmware update etc...no 
joy there so a kind tech sent me a replacement..also an LG..Now, after 
playing only about 12 DVD's since mid July, this one is doing the exact 
same thing...It whirrs and stops ..What a POS!!! I do have an external 
LaCie  burner (Pioneer 106-D) that works great but I need the internal 
for the Pismo. I will try the air can and see if that works...If I do 
have to get another drive, Iunderstand that the Matsushita's are much 
better..However I  am leery of trying to   tear the case apart to put a 
new drive inside of the current carrier...If you have any success, 
please let us know...I will do likewise...
Regards,
Mike K

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Re: Replacement Pismo DVD

2004-10-14 Thread csean
on 13/10/2004 20:30, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Subject: Replacement Pismo DVD
 
 
 My LG DVD-ROM in my Pismo finally died, so its time to replace the
 drive.  The problem I have is that I want a drive with a faceplate that
 matches the drive slot.  All the Mac upgrade stores that I have looked
 at sell drives that have a standard flat faceplate at twice the cost of
 the drive.  I am looking for somebody that sells a drive with the right
 front or a drive that is compatible with the cover off the LG.

The faceplate on the LG is not easy to remove, but it can be done with
patience and working slowly.
I have been told that the LG faceplate fits onto the Samsung SN-324 24x
Combo drive. This is a very nice drive that I've used in a Pismo in both 9
and X. Not set to Master, so it is not recognized by the OS or Toast after
hot swap or wake from sleep; no booting holding down C key, but you can boot
holding the Option key. Should be able to find it in the $60-70 range. Good
luck.

Chris


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Replacement Pismo DVD

2004-10-13 Thread John C. Swanson
My LG DVD-ROM in my Pismo finally died, so its time to replace the
drive.  The problem I have is that I want a drive with a faceplate that
matches the drive slot.  All the Mac upgrade stores that I have looked
at sell drives that have a standard flat faceplate at twice the cost of
the drive.  I am looking for somebody that sells a drive with the right
front or a drive that is compatible with the cover off the LG.

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Re: Replacement Pismo DVD

2004-10-13 Thread CJ
eBay?  You could ask the LEM-SWAP list too.
- Original Message - 
From: John C. Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:42 PM
Subject: Replacement Pismo DVD

My LG DVD-ROM in my Pismo finally died, so its time to replace the
drive.  The problem I have is that I want a drive with a faceplate that
matches the drive slot.  All the Mac upgrade stores that I have looked
at sell drives that have a standard flat faceplate at twice the cost of
the drive.  I am looking for somebody that sells a drive with the right
front or a drive that is compatible with the cover off the LG.
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Re: Replacement Pismo DVD

2004-10-13 Thread Jeff Drummond
On Oct 13, 2004, at 2:30 pm, John C. Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
My LG DVD-ROM in my Pismo finally died, so its time to replace the
drive.  The problem I have is that I want a drive with a faceplate that
matches the drive slot.  All the Mac upgrade stores that I have looked
at sell drives that have a standard flat faceplate at twice the cost of
the drive.  I am looking for somebody that sells a drive with the right
front or a drive that is compatible with the cover off the LG.
Wegener media sells them http://www.wegenermedia.com/.
You can also find them on eBay.
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[Fwd: RE: Pismo DVD Failure]

2004-06-06 Thread K

 Original Message 
Subject:RE: Pismo DVD Failure
Date:   Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:53:50 -0400
From:   K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mikael Byström wrote:
Eugene, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 

You can get a better drive:
http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismosuperd.htm
: When I called A/C about the fact that they neglected to do anything last 
: fall about it I was told that since the A/C was over, I was SOL but for 
: $379 they would check it and repair/replace whatever was wrong..
: System profiler info:
: Model  LG DVD-ROM DRN-80808
: Revision:  LA 88
: Serial #  2000/06/19

See above, cheaper too!
   

But as far as I recall, the problem is that if one get another brand one
also have to find a new drive bezel (the door plastics) or run without.
Possibly one could remake the old, but I wouldn't bet on it.
In my case, we got a new LQ from Wegenermedia.
 

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions/info...I have been away the 
past several days and am only catching up to mail now...
Here's another note...the failure occurred after I did the d/l and 
install of 10.3.4...I wonder if that may have had anything to do with 
the sudden failure???   Any ideas, conjectures, conspiracy theories???  
I do intend to get a replacement asap and it appears that the 
replacement will probably end up being another LG unit rather than the 
Mat. since they seem to be what most parts places have available..(maybe 
due to the higher failure rate necessitating their replacement and 
subsequent dumping by Apple of these units  to the market)??
Further suggestions, hints, comments welcomed..
Regards,
Mike K

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Re: Pismo DVD Failure/ Iraq laptop

2004-05-05 Thread Joe Crow
The chair recognizes K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make it good...

 Greetings Lista's,
 Pismo 400 -10.3.3- LG dvd unitThis unit had ben working
 perfectly until last nightThe last time I used it to play a dvd was
 2 weeks ago...all was well...Last night I went to play a movie and the
 unit failed to mount the dvd...It spins up then spins down  and stops.
 However, it does mount and play music cd's...There have been no changes
 in software or hardware since last dvd use.   I called AppleCare last
 night and was told that since my A/C supposedly ended this past March, I
 was SOL unless I sent it in and paid $375 for repair/replacement of the
 DVD unit.  The tech did have me reset the firmware w/out any luck.  Any
 ideas as to possible fixes?

Dude, your best bet is to just get a 3rd party DVD unit and drop it into the
tray. I went through 2 DVD units from Apple in my Pismo 500, and late last
year I bought a DVD-ROM/CD-RW unit off ebay to replace the last one that
went funky. I had to update some burner software (found the hack at
xlr8yourmac.com) but it works much better now.

Check some of these out:
http://search-desc.ebay.com/gcc-4240n_W0QQhtZ1QQsatitleZgccQ2d4240nQQsosortp
ropertyZ1QQsotextsearchedZ2

The one I've got is the LG version, but they've got some HP ones up there
for dirt cheap. Worth checking out.


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Pismo DVD Failure/ Iraq laptop

2004-05-04 Thread K
Greetings Lista's,
   Pismo 400 -10.3.3- LG dvd unitThis unit had ben working 
perfectly until last nightThe last time I used it to play a dvd was 
2 weeks ago...all was well...Last night I went to play a movie and the 
unit failed to mount the dvd...It spins up then spins down  and stops.  
However, it does mount and play music cd's...There have been no changes 
in software or hardware since last dvd use.   I called AppleCare last 
night and was told that since my A/C supposedly ended this past March, I 
was SOL unless I sent it in and paid $375 for repair/replacement of the 
DVD unit.  The tech did have me reset the firmware w/out any luck.  Any 
ideas as to possible fixes?  Also, I remember seeing addresses of 
various recommended powerbook repair places...would someone be kind 
enough to forward some to me?  Hopefully, I can get the fixed quickly.
   Also, regarding my request the other day about a laptop system to 
send to my brother in Iraq,  I have received several good offers and am 
in the process of getting the $ together now and will be getting one in 
the next several days...Thanks and appreciation to those that 
responded...There were several very fair offers...
Regards,
Mike K


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Re: Pismo DVD Failure/ Iraq laptop

2004-05-04 Thread James Rohde
On 5/4/04, Mike K wrote:
Pismo 400 -10.3.3- LG dvd unitThis unit had ben working 
perfectly until last nightThe last time I used it to play a dvd was 
2 weeks ago...all was well...Last night I went to play a movie and the 
unit failed to mount the dvd...It spins up then spins down  and stops.  
However, it does mount and play music cd's...There have been no changes 
in software or hardware since last dvd use.

If that is the original LG DVD/CDROM drive, they have a history of 
failing over time. I'm on my second one (mercifully, mine faltered while 
under original warranty). There are sites where you can order replacement 
ones (PBFixit.com and others), but I haven't checked prices there in a 
while, so not sure how that compares to your auth. Apple service tech's 
quote.

If you get the choice, get the Matsushita (spelling?) for a replacement. 
They are reported to be much less likely to die as quickly as the LG's 
have.

HTH,

Jim Rohde

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Re: Pismo DVD

2004-03-19 Thread Thomas Ethen
I would guess that most people on this list at least, are upgrading their
DVD modules and keeping them with one of those listed in the archives. That
is why they are so hard to come by now.

Tom

on 3/19/04 1:37, raoul reyes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a couple of years back (search archives, i can't remember the guys
 name) i gave my dead pismo dvd player to someone on this list.  he said
 he just needed the ribbon cable. i know it's a long shot but he might
 still have the case and willing to part with it.
 


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Re: Pismo DVD

2004-03-18 Thread raoul reyes
a couple of years back (search archives, i can't remember the guys 
name) i gave my dead pismo dvd player to someone on this list.  he said 
he just needed the ribbon cable. i know it's a long shot but he might 
still have the case and willing to part with it.

On Mar 18, 2004, at 4:46 AM, Eric Morrison wrote:

Michael:

Unfortunately, these are very hard to find. Try the swap list, that's 
where I finally found one after much looking.

... e

On Mar 13, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Michel Treisman wrote:

The DVD player on my Pismo G3 Firewire powerbook got struck on the 
edge when the powerbook
slid off a table  - and a bit of the plastic case of the DVD drive 
got broken off. (Otherwise it was undamaged)
I fixed it on with superglue, several times, and it always comes away 
again. - There isn't much surface to
put the superglue on.
The DVD mechanism is fine, works OK. Does anyone know where I could 
get a replacement of just the plastic
case?  A dead DVD with an intact plastic case would also do.
Mike

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Re: Pismo DVD

2004-03-17 Thread Eric Morrison
Michael:

Unfortunately, these are very hard to find. Try the swap list, that's 
where I finally found one after much looking.

... e

On Mar 13, 2004, at 10:29 AM, Michel Treisman wrote:

The DVD player on my Pismo G3 Firewire powerbook got struck on the 
edge when the powerbook
slid off a table  - and a bit of the plastic case of the DVD drive got 
broken off. (Otherwise it was undamaged)
I fixed it on with superglue, several times, and it always comes away 
again. - There isn't much surface to
put the superglue on.
The DVD mechanism is fine, works OK. Does anyone know where I could 
get a replacement of just the plastic
case?  A dead DVD with an intact plastic case would also do.
Mike

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Re: Pismo DVD module

2004-03-16 Thread Michel Treisman
The plastic case on my Pismo Powerbook DVD-ROM Module is broken. the 
works are OK.

I need a dead Pismo DVD drive so I can cannibalize the case. But dead 
drives are not offered
on eBay as far as I can  see.

Does anyone know where I could get one?

TIA,Mike

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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high / replacement Pismo CD/DVD drives

2003-10-27 Thread csean
on 24/10/2003 16:47, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Eric Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Howdy:
 
 I just did this. I replaced the CD/DVD drive in my Pismo (10.2.8...
 soon to be 10.3) with a new LG GCC-4240 combo DVD read, CDRW drive.

Congrats Eric. Great drive (as per xlr8) and a very nice price. I'm using a
Samsung SN-324B in my Pismo and it too has been a super replacement for my
DVD. The faceplate is a bit smaller than the original Matshita one and is
rectangular; no curvy Apple design, but it fit without modification. Also
has a raised eject button (I never did like Apple's recessed one).
Though for anyone having eject button problems, there are shareware and
freeware apps (e.g. Eject) that let you use a Function key to open the tray.

Just a quick question Eric: could you provide instructions on taking apart
the caddy for the LG drive (offlist if you prefer)? The Matshita one is very
easy to take apart, but I haven't figured out the LG one yet and I'm afraid
of breaking something when forcing it open. In short, how do you open the
LG caddy in order to remove the DVD and install a new drive? Thanks.

Chris

P.S. Another good option for a replacement Combo is the Sony CRX820, a
24x8x24x8x Combo that also has a handy switch right on the drive that you
can use to set it as Master (makes it possible to boot while holding down
the C key and also could/should resolve powerbook wake-from-sleep problems,
etc.).


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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high / replacement Pismo CD/DVD drives

2003-10-24 Thread Eric Morrison
Howdy:

I just did this. I replaced the CD/DVD drive in my Pismo (10.2.8... 
soon to be 10.3) with a new LG GCC-4240 combo DVD read, CDRW drive. 
Great drive. Fast and works great with burning (you can get files off 
of xlr8yourmac.com so that you can burn from iTunes in both OS 9 and 
10). The only catch is I haven't quite figured out what I am going to 
do for a drive faceplate yet (I've only had it about a week). I got the 
LG brand drive thinking that the original faceplate might fit it, 
unfortunately it is not even close. It came with a black faceplate that 
had to be removed to install it in the expansion bay drive caddy. I am 
probably just going to use a grinder to remove some of the extra 
plastic nubs off this faceplate so that I can reattach it without it 
interfering with the drive caddy. It won't be the curvy faceplate like 
the Apple original, it'll be flat and recessed a couple of millimeters. 
Not perfect but good enough that it will be acceptable.

If anyone is interested in doing this I got this drive from pcretro.com 
(www.pcretro.com) for ~$100 and the sales guy was Richard Bunk (no 
affiliation other than I'm a satisfied customer) and you can contact 
Richard at 301/937-8440 (Maryland). There are other drives available 
that will work in a Pismo (check out xlr8yourmac.com) so check them all 
out before deciding. If you have any followup questions, feel free to 
drop me a line.

... Eric

Best solution to something like this is buy a bare CD-RW or Combo drive
(you can find some decent, but pricey ones on eBay) and replace the
drive in your caddy. These drives  are designed to not spin up to high
speeds like that, and will read any disc you throw at it much more
easily. Plus you get burning ability in your Pismo.


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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-23 Thread Krevnik
Nah, it just means you are using some fairly new CD-R media.

My Lombard does the same thing, but only with more recently produced 
media, along with my 8600. If you take a look at the newer media, it is 
translucent when looked at from the data side. That combined with the 
cheaper dyes being used in the data layer make it harder for older 
drives to read them.

Best solution to something like this is buy a bare CD-RW or Combo drive 
(you can find some decent, but pricey ones on eBay) and replace the 
drive in your caddy. These drives  are designed to not spin up to high 
speeds like that, and will read any disc you throw at it much more 
easily. Plus you get burning ability in your Pismo.

On Oct 22, 2003, at 7:56 PM, Kathryn Odell wrote:

I'd like to add a comment on this Pismo CD issue. I've noticed that my 
Pismo
CD tends to do this noisy high-speed spinning when I insert a 
home-burned CD
(using RoxioToast). It will eventually show up on the desktop, but it 
takes
a while. Does this mean the drive is going? It's happened for over a 
year.
Any comments on this?


Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive 
begins
to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane). The drive still 
seems
to work fine and the revving lasts only temporarily, but the noise is
surely something wrong and unnatural. Is this spelling the end? Any
suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.
It depends on the model and make of the drive, as well, apparently, as
the cd.
All modern CD drives tend to be noisier, and that whining jet engine
sound is quite familar to anyone who works with PC's: all the desktops
these days ship with these gawdawful 587x speed drives that sound like
the Concorde winding up.
Once the disk is recognized as an audio CD it slows down.

The signs that the drive is going is if this goes on and on, or revs 
up
and down repeatedly before the disk is recognized.


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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
Michael J. Granado wrote:

Hello,

Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive begins 
to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane). The drive still seems 
to work fine and the revving lasts only temporarily, but the noise is 
surely something wrong and unnatural. Is this spelling the end? Any 
suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.
It depends on the model and make of the drive, as well, apparently, as 
the cd.

All modern CD drives tend to be noisier, and that whining jet engine 
sound is quite familar to anyone who works with PC's: all the desktops 
these days ship with these gawdawful 587x speed drives that sound like 
the Concorde winding up.

Once the disk is recognized as an audio CD it slows down.

The signs that the drive is going is if this goes on and on, or revs up 
and down repeatedly before the disk is recognized.

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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-22 Thread Kathryn Odell
I'd like to add a comment on this Pismo CD issue. I've noticed that my Pismo
CD tends to do this noisy high-speed spinning when I insert a home-burned CD
(using RoxioToast). It will eventually show up on the desktop, but it takes
a while. Does this mean the drive is going? It's happened for over a year.
Any comments on this?


 
 Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive begins
 to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane). The drive still seems
 to work fine and the revving lasts only temporarily, but the noise is
 surely something wrong and unnatural. Is this spelling the end? Any
 suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.
 
 It depends on the model and make of the drive, as well, apparently, as
 the cd.
 
 All modern CD drives tend to be noisier, and that whining jet engine
 sound is quite familar to anyone who works with PC's: all the desktops
 these days ship with these gawdawful 587x speed drives that sound like
 the Concorde winding up.
 
 Once the disk is recognized as an audio CD it slows down.
 
 The signs that the drive is going is if this goes on and on, or revs up
 and down repeatedly before the disk is recognized.


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Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-21 Thread Michael J. Granado
Hello,

Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive begins 
to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane). The drive still seems 
to work fine and the revving lasts only temporarily, but the noise is 
surely something wrong and unnatural. Is this spelling the end? Any 
suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Michael

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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-21 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 21/10/03 18:10, Michael J. Granado at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive begins
 to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane). The drive still seems
 to work fine and the revving lasts only temporarily, but the noise is
 surely something wrong and unnatural. Is this spelling the end? Any
 suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

I've seen this happening a few times on my Pismo as well. I'm not sure it
does it everytime, but I could be wrong...

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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-21 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Kochkodin wrote:

Likewiseonly happens occasionally
Regards,
Mike K
Laurent Daudelin wrote:

on 21/10/03 18:10, Michael J. Granado at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive 
begins
to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane).
I've seen this happening a few times on my Pismo as well. I'm not sure 
it
does it everytime, but I could be wrong...

-Laurent.


Me too and I had the drive replaced under Applecare not too long ago.

Donald

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Re: Pismo DVD Revving really high

2003-10-21 Thread Kochkodin
This was with the original Mat drive that had to be replaced 01/03 under 
AC...Now have the LG drive and have it once in awhile
Regards,
Mike K

Donald Keenan wrote:

On Tuesday, October 21, 2003, at 11:47 PM, Kochkodin wrote:

Likewiseonly happens occasionally
Regards,
Mike K
Laurent Daudelin wrote:

on 21/10/03 18:10, Michael J. Granado at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

Everytime I insert an audio CD into my Pismo CD drive, the drive 
begins
to rev really high (sounds like a jet airplane).
I've seen this happening a few times on my Pismo as well. I'm not 
sure it
does it everytime, but I could be wrong...

-Laurent.


Me too and I had the drive replaced under Applecare not too long ago.

Donald




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Re: Pismo DVD drive caddy

2003-10-03 Thread Dan K
Michelle Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a Pismo DVD drive that's bare...that is, the
outermost part is the metal casing, there's no black
plastic surrounding caddy. Any ideas where I could
get the caddy part, so I can use the drive? Or is the
only solution to buy a whole new drive?
You can use any caddy (or sled) for Lombard or Pismo, they're all the 
same. I've found the cheapest way to acquire one is to 'eBuy' a 
non-functional Lombard CD drive and pull its sled. I paid ~~$20 for the 
most recent one I picked up.

Here on my page on EBMs some more infos and pics:
 http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html#pismo

And re: your question whether a Pismo will boot with no HD and no PRAM . 
. . it needs neither to boot. Go ahead and plug it in and see if it 
works! THe M4402 is an appropriate PS BTW, it's the same 45W as the 
original PS. 

hth,

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Pismo dvd stuck

2003-10-03 Thread Donald Keenan
Hi all!
I need help!
I was watching a dvd in my Pismo with Jaguar 10.2.6 and it just stopped. 
It's frozen on a frame. This is a replacement drive I've had under 
AppleCare for months. The bad brand, whichever Apple uses.

Well, I can't eject it. I push f12 and the eject image appears but the 
rainbow ball just keeps spinning. I think my Applecare either ran out 
10/1 or will on 10/10.

My Pismo's just getting hot. I can't get it to force quit...

Any ideas?

TIA,

Donald

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Re: Pismo dvd stuck

2003-10-03 Thread Steve Fuller
Pull the battery and pull the AC cord. That will kill it. The machine 
will run a file system check on reboot so it will take a but longer 
start after you do this. Hopefully you can eject the dvd after that.

Steve

On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 10:28  PM, Donald Keenan wrote:

Hi all!
I need help!
I was watching a dvd in my Pismo with Jaguar 10.2.6 and it just 
stopped. It's frozen on a frame. This is a replacement drive I've had 
under AppleCare for months. The bad brand, whichever Apple uses.

Well, I can't eject it. I push f12 and the eject image appears but the 
rainbow ball just keeps spinning. I think my Applecare either ran out 
10/1 or will on 10/10.

My Pismo's just getting hot. I can't get it to force quit...

Any ideas?

TIA,

Donald

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Re: Pismo dvd stuck

2003-10-03 Thread Donald Keenan
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 11:49 PM, Steve Fuller wrote:

Pull the battery and pull the AC cord. That will kill it. The machine 
will run a file system check on reboot so it will take a but longer 
start after you do this. Hopefully you can eject the dvd after that.

Steve

On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 10:28  PM, Donald Keenan wrote:

Hi all!
I need help!
I was watching a dvd in my Pismo with Jaguar 10.2.6 and it just 
stopped. It's frozen on a frame. This is a replacement drive I've had 
under AppleCare for months. The bad brand, whichever Apple uses.

Well, I can't eject it. I push f12 and the eject image appears but the 
rainbow ball just keeps spinning. I think my Applecare either ran out 
10/1 or will on 10/10.

My Pismo's just getting hot. I can't get it to force quit...

Any ideas?

TIA,

Donald

Steve:

Popped the battery out and rebooted. Put the dvd back in and it plays 
but I don't like the sound of the driveand this is a replacement 
drive.  I guess I'm off to the AppleStore this weekend. My AppleCare 
lasts another week. Maybe I'm lucky in that the drive can be replaced. 
I've been using my desktop and haven't been using the Pismo, so it's 
better that I have a chance to investigate further while I'm just under 
AppleCare.

Not sure if this was mechanical but I'll hope my local Apple geniuses 
can help.

Thanks eveyone and thank you Steve.

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Pismo DVD drive caddy

2003-10-02 Thread Michelle Martinez
Another Pismo part question:

I have a Pismo DVD drive that's bare...that is, the
outermost part is the metal casing, there's no black
plastic surrounding caddy. Any ideas where I could
get the caddy part, so I can use the drive? Or is the
only solution to buy a whole new drive?

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Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Tekno Liber
In my quest to get myself a decent PowerBook I ended up
buying two Pismos, one early 400 and one late 500.
I am now putting together the best parts to keep and then
sell the rest. However, my question pertains to the DVD
players.
One has:

M5505 (year 1999)
Macintosh PowerBook G3 Series 2X DVDxROM Module
The other:

M7931 (year 2000)
PowerBook DVD-ROM Module
Sounds strange to me that it has G3 Series as this was the
Wallstreet range, and the unit doesn't fit that PowerBook,
nor is the DVD supported in the Lombard...
Is the second unit also a 2X ?

Is there any difference ?

I am planning to keep the M7931, is that the best one ?



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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Lewin Edwards
Hi!

M5505 (year 1999)
Macintosh PowerBook G3 Series 2X DVDxROM Module
M7931 (year 2000)
PowerBook DVD-ROM Module
Sounds strange to me that it has G3 Series as this was the
Wallstreet range, and the unit doesn't fit that PowerBook,
nor is the DVD supported in the Lombard...
The Pismo/Lombard are referred to as Powerbook G3 Series, though. (As 
opposed to Wallstreet, which was Powerbook G3 without Series).

Is the second unit also a 2X ?
Is there any difference ?
I am planning to keep the M7931, is that the best one ?
Put them both in the Pismo (one at a time), use Apple System Profiler 
to get info on what mechanism is inside. The earlier drives seem to 
have been legendary for problems, but there's no way of you knowing 
which one actually has the more recent mech in it; the original owner 
may have had an in-warranty problem and had the unit refurbished with a 
newer mech.

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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Tekno Liber
From: Lewin Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for your advice!!  I will follow it and hopefully keep the
best drive!   :o)
Laurence

However, you are incorrect as far as the names are concerned:

The Pismo/Lombard are referred to as Powerbook G3 Series, though. (As 
opposed to Wallstreet, which was Powerbook G3 without Series).
LowEndMac:
the models known as PowerBook G3, PowerBook G3 Series,
 and just plain PowerBook (named in chronological order)
apple-history.com:
   PowerBook G3 Series
   PowerBook G3 Series (rev. 2)
   PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard)
   PowerBook G3 (FireWire)
and finally Apple:

PowerBook G3 (FireWire): Specifications 2000.04
PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard, 400 MHz): Specifications - 1999.05
PowerBook G3 (Bronze Keyboard, 333 MHz): Specifications - 1999.05
PowerBook G3 Series:
 233, 250, 292 MHz, 14.1-inch display Specifications - 1998.09
 233, 266, 300 MHz, 14.1-inch display Specifications - 1998.09
 233, 250, 292 MHz, 13.3-inch display Specifications - 1998.09
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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Lewin Edwards
From: Lewin Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for your advice!!  I will follow it and hopefully keep the
best drive!   :o)
:)


However, you are incorrect as far as the names are concerned:
Okay... I stand erected!

PS: My DVD-ROM drive is the M7931 2000 model, and the label explicitly 
states that it's an MKE SR-8174-C (MKE = Matsushita-Kotobuki 
Electronics, i.e. Panasonic). It is a 6X drive.

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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 19/09/03 10:06, Lewin Edwards at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Lewin Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thank you for your advice!!  I will follow it and hopefully keep the
 best drive!   :o)
 
 :)
 
 
 However, you are incorrect as far as the names are concerned:
 
 Okay... I stand erected!
 
 PS: My DVD-ROM drive is the M7931 2000 model, and the label explicitly
 states that it's an MKE SR-8174-C (MKE = Matsushita-Kotobuki
 Electronics, i.e. Panasonic). It is a 6X drive.

Mine says:

PowerBook DVD-ROM Module
Model Number M7931 (MKE #SR-8174-C) 5V

So, I guess I also have a 6X drive?

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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread David Ensteness
To settle some misunderstandings, G3 PowerBooks came in several sets:

The PowerBook G3 [Kanga, 3500, processor speeds of 250MHz, used a 3400 
case, does not support Mac OS X]
PowerBook G3 Series [Wallstreet/Mainstreet/1998, speeds of 233, 266, 
300, several screen sizes, all legacy ports, last Old World ROM 
PowerBook supported through Mac OS X v.10.2.6]
PowerBook G3 Series [Lombard/1999, revised Wallstreet case, thinner, 
lighter, 333MHz and 400MHz, better video, USB and SCSI, first New World 
ROM, supported into 10.3]
PowerBook [Pismo/FireWire/2000, used same case as a Lombard, 400 and 
500MHz, FireWire, AirPort, Rage128M video, faster bus, no legacy ports, 
supported into 10.3]

Specifically about the DVD:

The Pismo had DVD standard, the Lombard had DVD as an option and it 
came standard on the highend, DVD was also optional on some Wallstreets 
with hardware decoding [which is not supported in Mac OS X].

The earlier *Pismo* DVDs were made by LG and have had issues for most 
people [premature death]. The earlier Lombard DVDs have had no such 
problem.

I would tend not to use a Lombard DVD-ROM in a Pismo until I had 
confirmed that it worked by some other means. I have not heard any 
cases of drive bay modules from a Lombard being incompatible, I believe 
in fact they all are compatible with a Pismo, however, my level of 
comfort would be to check it out with a little reading first.

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Re: Pismo DVD

2003-09-19 Thread csean
on 19/09/2003 15:40, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 PS: My DVD-ROM drive is the M7931 2000 model, and the label explicitly
 states that it's an MKE SR-8174-C (MKE = Matsushita-Kotobuki
 Electronics, i.e. Panasonic). It is a 6X drive.
 
 Mine says:
 
 PowerBook DVD-ROM Module
 Model Number M7931 (MKE #SR-8174-C) 5V
 
 So, I guess I also have a 6X drive?
 
 -Laurent.


Under Apple System Profiler, see if one of them is a Matshita or Matsushita
brand. Keep that one. If the other's an LG brand, sell it, as it's more
problematic. 

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Re: Pismo DVD

2003-09-19 Thread Lewin Edwards
PowerBook DVD-ROM Module
Model Number M7931 (MKE #SR-8174-C) 5V
So, I guess I also have a 6X drive?
Yes, as long as the SR-8174 is still inside that housing! Check it in 
Apple System Profiler to be sure before choosing between the drives.

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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Tekno Liber
From: Lewin Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, you are incorrect as far as the names are concerned:

Okay... I stand erected!
I always thought I had strange sexual interests, but Macs ?!?  ;o)
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My DVD-ROM drive is the M7931 2000 model, and the label explicitly states 
that it's an MKE SR-8174-C (MKE = Matsushita-Kotobuki Electronics, i.e. 
Panasonic). It is a 6X drive.
Mine too, so mine must be a 6x as well.   :o)

Hmm, which one to keep, 2x or 6x...  Difficult question.   ;o)

Thanks for your help!!

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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Tekno Liber
From: David Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would tend not to use a Lombard DVD-ROM in a Pismo until I had confirmed 
that it worked by some other means. I have not heard any cases of drive bay 
modules from a Lombard being incompatible, I believe in fact they all are 
compatible with a Pismo, however, my level of comfort would be to check it 
out with a little reading first.

From LowEndMac:
The Pismo PowerBook uses the same drive bay devices as the Lombard
PowerBook G3, although its DVD drive cannot be used on Lombard.
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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread David M. Ensteness
I was just looking around and the same is stated in Apple's Knowledge 
Base so yeah you are right that either will work.

David

From LowEndMac:

The Pismo PowerBook uses the same drive bay devices as the Lombard
PowerBook G3, although its DVD drive cannot be used on Lombard.
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Re: Pismo DVD

2003-09-19 Thread Tekno Liber
I beg your pardon.   :o)


From: David M. Ensteness [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pismo DVD
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:19:46 -0500
The Lombard was also called the PowerBook G3 Series as I stated in my 
earlier e-mail.

David

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 10:18 AM, Tekno Liber wrote:

Just strange that the earlier drive (be it from a Pismo or a Lombard)
should have PowerBook G3 Series on it as it was the Wallstreet
and PDQ that were called Series and Series II, and they're not
physically compatible ?!
Oh well...



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Re: Pismo DVD

2003-09-19 Thread Eugene Lee
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 02:49:03PM -0500, David Ensteness wrote:
: Eugene Lee clarified:
: 
: Actually:
: 
:  Lombard = PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze)
:  Pismo = PowerBook G3 Series (Firewire)
: 
: The Pismo was not referred to the PowerBook G3 Series in Apple's 
: documentation.

Bzzt!

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25018

Symptom 

If a serial or LocalTalk device is connected to the S-Video port
on the PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard and FireWire) or
PowerBook G4, the computer will not startup properly. The Mac OS
splash screen and extensions along the bottom of the screen do
not appear during startup. When the desktop loads, there is no
menu bar however some icons may appear on the desktop area.  

Affected Products

PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard)
PowerBook G3 Series (FireWire)
PowerBook G4


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Re: Pismo DVD

2003-09-19 Thread David Ensteness
ooh ouch, looks like I was wrong on that one. OK, point taken.

David
Bzzt!

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25018

	Symptom

If a serial or LocalTalk device is connected to the S-Video port
on the PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard and FireWire) or
PowerBook G4, the computer will not startup properly. The Mac OS
splash screen and extensions along the bottom of the screen do
not appear during startup. When the desktop loads, there is no
menu bar however some icons may appear on the desktop area.
	Affected Products

PowerBook G3 Series (Bronze Keyboard)
PowerBook G3 Series (FireWire)
PowerBook G4


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Re: Pismo DVD player ?

2003-09-19 Thread Dan K
Laurence Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Pismo PowerBook uses the same drive bay devices as the Lombard
PowerBook G3, although its DVD drive cannot be used on Lombard.
I'm not aware of DVD play problems with any particular DVD mechanism in a 
Lombard under classic MacOS. Just now I popped an M7931/SR-8174-c into a 
Lombard 400 (OS 9.2.1  Player 1.3) and DVD play works fine (as expected.)

FWIW, I've got tons of EBMs* for Lombard/Pismo and have yet to come 
across any that don't work in both models. I'd say any EBM that fits will 
work, excepting of course any lack of particular device support under OSX 
(eg: Lombard's lack of DVD play.)

*SuperDisk/floppy, ZIP, HD, plus opticals of various 
brands/types/models
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 (More? I can't think of any other EBM types just now.)

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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's

2003-07-16 Thread Jeff Hubatka
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:40:27 -0400
From: Pete Gregory 
Subject: Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's


 Subject: Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's
 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:47:58 -0500
 From: James Rohde 
 Message-Id: 
 
[snip]
 Pete, you possibly have the dreaded 'LG dying' problem (which I had 
 shortly before my original warranty ran out). The LG model of drive has 
 documented problems with failing way too soon (the Matsushita drive 
 doesn't appear to have the problem). I had similar symptoms when my
drive 
 started going south.
 
Well, I never had applecare so I guess it's going to be an expensive fix.


Looking on the web, it appears the replacement is $130 up.  OTOH I've 
seen two combo drives for $200  $300 
(http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismocombo.htm) and I saw an article on 
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/PB_G3/oem_combo_drives/build_guide/build_combo_drive.html 
for using a Matsushita UJDA 710 drive as an alternative (about $100 on 
ebay) tempting.

Has anyone any other suggestions or thoughts on this matter?  And how do 
I explain it to the wife?

Thanks
Pete  another LG victim.

Hi- I just replaced a Pismo DVD drive (actually a working Matsushita model) with a 
UJDA-720. The switch was simple, but I had to drill another hole because the Pismo 
faceplate had different mounts than the HP the drive came from. Anyway, the drive was 
$52 on eBay - just look in the laptop components section and be patient. This one had 
a picture of the actual drive, so I knew it was a Matsushita mechanism. Apple System 
Profiler recognizes the drive, but disc burning and iTunes aren't supported. Toast, 
however, will work with the drive so now I have a working combo drive in the wife's 
Pismo. BTW, I also tested the drive in my Lombard and I could burn with Toast there, 
too. My next step is to work on the disc burner support file so I can do things from 
Finder and iTunes. I didn't see that one in a quick run thru xlr8, but I can do more 
looking today.


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Re: Pismo DVD problems

2003-07-15 Thread csean
on 14-07-2003 16:44, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Apparently it's something that LG has addressed, but obviously not soon
 enough for those of us who were blessed with LG mechanisms.   I think the
 total 
 damage was around $100 for a new mechanism, and it only took about 3 minutes
 to 
 install.  Probably the easiest (and least expensive!) fix I've done for my
 Pismo to date.
 
 Hope it helps.  
 
 Tom


It does happen to the Matshita drives, too, though probably not as
frequently. It is a problem that is starting to surface a lot in Pismos,
perhaps not surprising after 3+ years of work as people's main everyday
computer. The faulty Pismo DVD is a big thread at the Apple Discussions
forum. Check it out at the Apple site.

For alternatives to just a simple DVD replacement, check out xlr8yourmac.com
under the Drive database and under Pismo. Lots of people have swapped in
combo CDRW/DVD's in place of the faulty DVD; DVD-R/RW units are starting to
appear too. Lots of user feedback on models, installation tips,
compatibility, bootability, modified plugins for iTunes and Disk Burner,
etc. It is surprising just how many different makes and models work in the
Pismo; and the swap is easy and takes about 10 minutes max.

If you are going to spend $100 on a replacement, I'd suggest checking out
the xlr8yourmac database and then heading to ebay. Prices have risen lately,
but you should still be able to get a 24x10x24x8x combo CDRW/DVD for between
$100 and $130. I've seen 8x4x24x8x Matshita units go for under $50, which is
a great deal.

Chris


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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's

2003-07-15 Thread Pete Gregory

Subject: Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 23:47:58 -0500
From: James Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Pete, you possibly have the dreaded 'LG dying' problem (which I had 
shortly before my original warranty ran out). The LG model of drive has 
documented problems with failing way too soon (the Matsushita drive 
doesn't appear to have the problem). I had similar symptoms when my drive 
started going south.

Well, I never had applecare so I guess it's going to be an expensive fix.

Looking on the web, it appears the replacement is $130 up.  OTOH I've 
seen two combo drives for $200  $300 
(http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismocombo.htm) and I saw an article on 
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/PB_G3/oem_combo_drives/build_guide/build_combo_drive.html 
for using a Matsushita UJDA 710 drive as an alternative (about $100 on 
ebay) tempting.

Has anyone any other suggestions or thoughts on this matter?  And how do 
I explain it to the wife?

Thanks
Pete  another LG victim.


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Pismo DVD drive not recognising CD's

2003-07-14 Thread Pete Gregory
Any bright ideas as what the problem is and how to fix it?

My 3 year old pismo (OS 9.22, 382 Mb Ram, stock 20Mb HD) has stopped 
recognising CD's.  I put a CD or CD-R in the drive, close the unit, the 
drive spins up, spins down about a second later and that's it.  Checking 
in sys profiler shows 'no media' and the eject button on the unit still 
works.  I've tried with a few CD's, pulled the drive out and reseated it 
but no joy.  However, it happily reads DVDs with no problems.

Model is LG (DVD-ROM DRN8080B rev LAB8) with driver version 1.4.7.

I have not loaded any new software or tweaked the hardware for a long time.

My workaround of using fetch to copy from a linux box over the network 
is rather painful and only works with mac disks.

Suggestions gratefully appreciated.
Pete.
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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognising CD's

2003-07-14 Thread Wiebe Wilbers
Try http://mywebpages.comcast.net/gionpeters//pb1400.htm

Towards the bottom of the page he suggests how to fix a 1400's CD drive.
Might work for you too...

Wiebe.


On 14/7/03 11:36 PM, Pete Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any bright ideas as what the problem is and how to fix it?
 
 My 3 year old pismo (OS 9.22, 382 Mb Ram, stock 20Mb HD) has stopped
 recognising CD's.  I put a CD or CD-R in the drive, close the unit, the
 drive spins up, spins down about a second later and that's it.  Checking
 in sys profiler shows 'no media' and the eject button on the unit still
 works.  I've tried with a few CD's, pulled the drive out and reseated it
 but no joy.  However, it happily reads DVDs with no problems.
 
 Model is LG (DVD-ROM DRN8080B rev LAB8) with driver version 1.4.7.
 
 I have not loaded any new software or tweaked the hardware for a long time.
 
 My workaround of using fetch to copy from a linux box over the network
 is rather painful and only works with mac disks.
 
 Suggestions gratefully appreciated.
 Pete.
 


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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognising CD's

2003-07-14 Thread Tony Coult
You'll probably be told this by a hundred other people on this list but the
answer is those dreaded letters LG. These Lucky Goldstar drives fail all
the time. I got through three of them until someone said try and the
Matsushita brand. So far, mine has been fine. I'm sure you'll find that's
the answer... Tony


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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognising CD's

2003-07-14 Thread Bigbikerbo
I had this exact same problem and figuring that the mechanism was blown, 
bought a new mechanism for it from Wegener Media.  They mentioned this happens a 
lot with the DRN8080B mechanism, and they've found a new revision of the drive 
which is less problematic.   As it's working perfectly now with the new 
mechanism, I'm pretty certain that the diagnosis was correct.

Apparently it's something that LG has addressed, but obviously not soon 
enough for those of us who were blessed with LG mechanisms.   I think the total 
damage was around $100 for a new mechanism, and it only took about 3 minutes to 
install.  Probably the easiest (and least expensive!) fix I've done for my 
Pismo to date.

Hope it helps.  

Tom

On 14/7/03 11:36 PM, Pete Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any bright ideas as what the problem is and how to fix it?
 My 3 year old pismo (OS 9.22, 382 Mb Ram, stock 20Mb HD) has stopped
 recognising CD's.  I put a CD or CD-R in the drive, close the unit, the
 drive spins up, spins down about a second later and that's it.  Checking
 in sys profiler shows 'no media' and the eject button on the unit still
 works.  I've tried with a few CD's, pulled the drive out and reseated it
 but no joy.  However, it happily reads DVDs with no problems.
 
 Model is LG (DVD-ROM DRN8080B rev LAB8) with driver version 1.4.7.
 

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Re: Pismo DVD drive not recognizing CD's

2003-07-14 Thread James Rohde
On 07/14/2003, Pete Gregory apparently wrote:


Any bright ideas as what the problem is and how to fix it?

My 3 year old pismo (OS 9.22, 382 Mb Ram, stock 20Mb HD) has stopped 
recognising CD's.  I put a CD or CD-R in the drive, close the unit, the 
drive spins up, spins down about a second later and that's it.  Checking 
in sys profiler shows 'no media' and the eject button on the unit still 
works.  I've tried with a few CD's, pulled the drive out and reseated it 
but no joy.  However, it happily reads DVDs with no problems.

Model is LG (DVD-ROM DRN8080B rev LAB8) with driver version 1.4.7.

I have not loaded any new software or tweaked the hardware for a long time.

My workaround of using fetch to copy from a linux box over the network 
is rather painful and only works with mac disks.

Suggestions gratefully appreciated.
Pete.
Pete, you possibly have the dreaded 'LG dying' problem (which I had 
shortly before my original warranty ran out). The LG model of drive has 
documented problems with failing way too soon (the Matsushita drive 
doesn't appear to have the problem). I had similar symptoms when my drive 
started going south.

Since I'd guess you're not even covered by AppleCare, you may be out of 
luck (if you are still - even barely - within your AppleCare warranty, 
RUN your Pismo to the closest Apple service provider for an exchange of 
the drive. Heck, call Apple first to ensure that they know of the problem 
occurring within your warranty!). 

From my own and others reports of how Apple handles the replacement, you 
may get another (possibly refurbished?) LG drive, or if you get really 
lucky, you may get the Matsushita drive. My replacement LG drive has been 
working fine so far (Thank Heaven for that!).

HTH,

Jim Rohde



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Re: Applecare fixes Pismo DVD

2003-06-17 Thread Ryan and Amie

 I'm quite impressed.  Given this repair and the other telephone support
 I've received from Apple, I think the $300 I spent for AppleCare to be
 a worthwhile.  


yea, I'm impressed at the fixing speed of apple too, until it happens again
in 10 months. Mine has died 3.5 times (about to die again).

-Ryan


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Applecare fixes Pismo DVD

2003-06-13 Thread Jim
Hi folks,

I've heard of others here with G3 Powerbook (Firewire) DVD drive 
modules that went dead, and I was hoping that mine would be an 
exception to the rule.  As far as I can tell, this was virtually the 
last Pismo sold (the last one in SmallDog.com's inventory, and as far 
as I saw, the last one any mail-order company had for sale.  I've loved 
it.  From your descriptions, it sounded like it did contain one of the 
problematic models of DVD drive, but I was hopeful.  I never had much 
trouble with it, aside from the occasional burp.  Until last month, 
when it started refusing to mount increasing numbers of CD disks 
(including my Jaguar Install disk), started making a funny noise, and 
would take a LONG time to read those it would finally mount.

Well, since I still have about 10 months of AppleCare warranty coverage 
left, I called up Apple, and told them the problems.  They took me 
through resetting the power manager and zapping the PRAM (which I'd 
already done anyhow, but I humored them).  They determined that I had 
to send the whole Powerbook in for repair.  The shipping box arrived 18 
hours after it was requested--I hadn't even finished swapping out the 
internal hard drive (which I wanted to keep using, in an external 
firewire enclosure while the 'book was away).  I sent them my Pismo 
Wednesday night, containing an empty hard disk.  This morning it 
arrived back!  Less than 46 hours!  With a new DVD-ROM module, new 
rubber feet, a cleaned keyboard, and a cleaned screen (no keyboard 
markings).  And they installed OS 9.2.2 on the disk (probably as a 
by-product of testing the new module).

I'm quite impressed.  Given this repair and the other telephone support 
I've received from Apple, I think the $300 I spent for AppleCare to be 
a worthwhile.  The only way it would have been better is if Apple 
hadn't used these dodgy DVD mechanisms in the first place.

One thing I'm especially glad about is that I never played around with 
re-programming the DVD firmware to overcome region-encoding 
limitations.  I'm guessing they'd have noticed, and tried to blame that 
for the troubles.

Good luck with your 'books!

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Pismo DVD-ROM drive

2003-03-12 Thread Michel Treisman

My Pismo fell off a table and the edge of the DVD ROM drive was ripped 
off.  The drive itself still works fine but I need a new
  plastic case for it.  I have not been able to find it as a spare part. 
  Does anyone know where I could get a new case? Or perhaps a dead DVD 
drive to cannibalize?

Mike


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Re: Pismo DVD: Mats vs LG Round One

2003-03-01 Thread Tony Coult
You asked about the ASP description of my Drive. It says Matshita...
Rev.no. 080E... Product DVD-ROM SR 8171... Serial no. Not available
Hope that's of interest TONY


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