Wallstreet battery charger
Does anyone have the manual for a VST external battery charger for wallstreet batteries ? I need to know what the light sequences mean. thanks, Mad Dog -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery probs?
but I think that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to recharge. Why - I would have thought it was more likely to recharge if there were no batteries in taking current ? -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery probs?
Laurent Daudelin said: It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to recharge. I have charged batteries with a dead PRAM on the Wallstreet II and also had a working PRAM hold the data (dates and so on) without a working battery or even without one. So I think they are unrelated. But the charge board coudl have been damaged I suppose or there is no contact internally. Also there is the issue with shielding tape touching the outer ring on the power adapter connector. I'd try the batteries in another wallstreet and if dead there too I'd put them in a freezer to see if that coudl help (as have been discussed on the list. Have had no such luck myself). Also had a total reset revive things once in a WS I. If dead, remember to give the batteries to an Apple Centre for destruction. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery probs?
I thought I had fried my PMU (power management unit) and my Wallstreet II battery a few weeks ago, but followed advice given on this list to run Battery Reset from Apple. Didn't work. But I tried it twice more, and it still didn't work. Tried it again two days later, when the battery still showed no charge. Then I noticed the other day that, WOW! The battery was now fully charged! Moral of the story? Have patience. Apparently using Battery Reset, perhaps repeatedly, and then giving things some time - in my case, more than a week - and good results may ensue. From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:49:41 +0200 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Wallstreet battery probs? Laurent Daudelin said: It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to recharge. I have charged batteries with a dead PRAM on the Wallstreet II and also had a working PRAM hold the data (dates and so on) without a working battery or even without one. So I think they are unrelated. But the charge board coudl have been damaged I suppose or there is no contact internally. Also there is the issue with shielding tape touching the outer ring on the power adapter connector. I'd try the batteries in another wallstreet and if dead there too I'd put them in a freezer to see if that coudl help (as have been discussed on the list. Have had no such luck myself). Also had a total reset revive things once in a WS I. If dead, remember to give the batteries to an Apple Centre for destruction. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery probs?, try battery reset software?
Hi, gang. - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266. It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected. It came with two BTI batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and there's no indication that they're charging. Red X through battery icon in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out. I've pulled the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM battery, could it? Anybody seen similar issues with your WS? Have you tried battery reset? It's an Apple utility for OS 8.1 and 9 (not sure about 10) that works on Wallstreets and Lombards (but apparently not on Pismos) that resets a battery's microprocessor. Works for batteries that are sound but have the internal controller confused so they are reported to the computer as dead. Here's a bit from the readme file: About Battery Reset 2.0 What Is Battery Reset 2.0? Battery Reset 2.0 addresses a situation that may occur with some PowerBook G3 Series and iBook computers in which the battery, while in the system, doesn't show up in the Control Strip, or a red X appears over the battery icon in the menu bar. Battery Reset 2.0 includes two components. For PowerBook G3 Series computers, a file called Battery Updater is installed in the Extensions folder and an application called Battery Reset is installed on your hard disk. For iBook, only the file called Battery Updater is needed and is installed in the Extensions folder. Installation Requirements To install and use the Battery Reset 2.0 software, you need the following: A PowerBook G3 Series (family number M4753 or M5343) or iBook (family number M2453) computer. The family number is located on the label on the bottom of the computer. Mac OS 8.1 or later installed -- Andrew in Ann Arbor -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet battery probs?
Hi, gang. New to the list - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266. It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected. It came with two BTI batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and there's no indication that they're charging. Red X through battery icon in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out. I've pulled the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM battery, could it? Anybody seen similar issues with your WS? Pax, -- Gene, a.k.a. G-Man Friends don't let friends do Windows -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery probs?
On 20/04/05 17:06, Gene Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, gang. New to the list - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266. It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected. It came with two BTI batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and there's no indication that they're charging. Red X through battery icon in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out. I've pulled the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM battery, could it? Anybody seen similar issues with your WS? It looks like both batteries are dead. It could also be the PMU (Power Management Unit). Did you try to reset it? Check Apple's web site for instructions on how to do it. It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to recharge. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Source for Wallstreet battery?
I had problems getting a battery that worked well, but that problem has been solved. I have gotten good bateries from APC (it took three times) and from http://www.eagleimports.com (it took two times, but the problem was compunded by problems with there phone,and internet provider (Quest Telephone)). Eagle imports is on ebay with better prices than from there web site. I will buy from both again. I am satified with both batteries. Do you need a PRAM battery? Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://www.powerbookwireless.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
source for Wallstreet battery?
Hello All My father in law reports that his Wallstreet battery is getting weak. Can anyone recommend a source for new batteries? I'll try Battery Reset but would like options in case it's actually expired. -- Andrew in Ann Arbor -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: source for Wallstreet battery?
On 04/04/05 09:41, Andrew in Ann Arbor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All My father in law reports that his Wallstreet battery is getting weak. Can anyone recommend a source for new batteries? I'll try Battery Reset but would like options in case it's actually expired. NewerTech is selling higher capacity batteries. You can get them from Other World Computing http://eshop.macsales.com/. I purchased one myself from Laptops-Battery.com. http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/ products_id/5403. It's $103.70, one of the best price I could find for a new battery. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
A final update regarding my quest for a working battery: APC Returned my phone call, and is sending out a replacement battery. They are paying the shipping cost both ways. APC provided replacement battery 3 days after that phone call. It Charged up the first time I tried it. I am now going to do a calibration and see how much time it will last. Eagle Imports agreed to send replacement battery. Will pick up the original battery that tested dead. Will pay for shipping cost for both batteries. I am waiting on replacement to test. If replacement battery does not work, they have agreed to take it back, pay the freight cost, and not charge a restocking fee. Eagle Imports believes that one or more cells in battery is dead. I Received a pre paid mailer to send defective battery back to Eagle Imports. Replacement battery arrived 4 days after I mailed first one back. After charging and calibration it last about 2 1/2 hours with all energy savings turned off, and playing a QuickTime movie looping continuously. Quite acceptable. I want to note that Eagle Imports honored their terms of sale after I was able to establish communication with them. The communication problems stem from Quest Telephone Co, and a move of their business at the same time I placed the order on their web site. In earlier conversion with Other World Computing about their brand of batteries, they advised me that the charge card in the Wallstreet could be week, ie: not strong enough, to handle the larger capacity batteries. As both batteries have charged up ok, this does not seem to be a problem. Also both batteries test good in the VST external charger. Both batteries are a larger capacity than the Apple origional battery, it seems the VST charger is not calibrated for that, and charges them up to when three of the lights on the fuel gauge are lit. At that point, the VST Charger indicates a full charge by giving a Green Light. Perhaps If I left them in the charger overnight, they will go to full charge. I have not tried that yet. Both charge up fully in the Wallstreet without problem. In the end, it appears I have received 2 bad batteries in my quest for replacements. I now have two good batteries. Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
Just an Update regarding my quest for a working battery: Hello all. Can someone direct me to a link for rebuilding the battery in a Wallstreet? Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
My Reply follows quote. On 11/02/2005 05:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just an Update regarding my quest for a working battery: Hello all. Can someone direct me to a link for rebuilding the battery in a Wallstreet? Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann - I don't think this has been done successfully. The Lithium Ion battery pack for the Wallstreet (and others) is a smart battery, with an IC integrated into the circuit. Even if you could find the proper cells and get them inside the glued together pack, it would be a real challenge to reprogram the chip for the new cells. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
On 11/02/05 09:55, Ken Anita Daggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Reply follows quote. On 11/02/2005 05:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just an Update regarding my quest for a working battery: Hello all. Can someone direct me to a link for rebuilding the battery in a Wallstreet? Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann - I don't think this has been done successfully. The Lithium Ion battery pack for the Wallstreet (and others) is a smart battery, with an IC integrated into the circuit. Even if you could find the proper cells and get them inside the glued together pack, it would be a real challenge to reprogram the chip for the new cells. That was exactly my experience. I was able to rebuild my Pismo battery after it went dead but the PowerBook never wanted to recharge it... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: WallStreet Battery
FWIW, I had a Pismo battery rebuilt in Taipei by an electronics shop - cost was 3000 NT (~US$ 95) The battery leds no longer work, but battery did not need recalibration; after rebuilding, the battery life display showed the same time remaining as before, around one hour, but it would discharge to zero, but Pismo would keep operating for much longer. Each time I recharged, the battery would show a longer capacity - now showing just under 5 hours, on a G4 Pismo 550 Mhz 10.3.7. That is with the lower capacity cells than the ones in the 7200 mah batteries - maybe 2000 or 2200 mah (cells are 3 parallel gangs of 3 in series) Have not done discharge time test, will do and advise. YMMV. On 12/02/2005, at 11:39 AM, G-Books wrote: Hello all. Can someone direct me to a link for rebuilding the battery in a Wallstreet? Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann - I don't think this has been done successfully. The Lithium Ion battery pack for the Wallstreet (and others) is a smart battery, with an IC integrated into the circuit. Even if you could find the proper cells and get them inside the glued together pack, it would be a real challenge to reprogram the chip for the new cells. That was exactly my experience. I was able to rebuild my Pismo battery after it went dead but the PowerBook never wanted to recharge it... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
Just an Update regarding my quest for a working battery: It would be helpful to others if those being difficult or providing substandard service or materials are clearly identified. What dealers did you deal with? APC was direct from them. I am waiting for return phone call. APC Returned my phone call, and is sending out a replacement battery. They are paying the shipping cost both ways. The other was from Eagle Imports Intl, 2757 So 300 West Suite # D Salt Lake City, UT 84115. This is the company that has not responded to my repeat phone calls for a RMA. Will let you know how it goes with the charge card company refunding the charge. Eagle Imports returned phone calls after 7 days. Says problems caused by move from Salt Lake City to Logan UT. Says Quest telephone company has messed up their local POTS and 800 service and their voice mail service. Also Quest provides DSL to company and that has been messed up. I was given a direct phone number to the rep I talked to, so to bypass voice mail. Eagle Imports agreed to send replacement battery. Will pick up the original battery that tested dead. Will pay for shipping cost for both batteries. I am waiting on replacement to test. If replacement battery does not work, they have agreed to take it back, pay the freight cost, and not charge a restocking fee. Eagle Imports believes that one or more cells in battery is dead. Contacted Other World Computing about their brand of batteries. They advise the following: The NewerTech batteries are not compatible with VST external charger. The VST charger's overcharge batteries. While my Wallstreet charges the Apple Brand of battery, the charge card could be weak and not work with a battery of larger capacity. Other World says the NewerTech line of battery has a low rate of return, most all problems being with a defective charger in the PowerBook or the use of an external charger. Other World answered emails promptly. Testing to be done: Will take the two problem batteries to user group meeting this thursday. One other member has Wallstreet and I will test batteries in his PowerBook. Will advise what happens. I want to get my Wallstreet working reliably. I will use it in a dirty work enviroment, and don't want to use a new PowerBook in such enviroment. I currently use a PB1400 daily at work, (it has no problems) but I would like to go to a larger screen. Is their any way to test the charge card in the Wallstreet other than replacing it with a new one? By the way. The AC power supply for the Wallstreet is a new one of the YoYo style. No problems with that. Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Vann wrote: Eagle Imports returned phone calls after 7 days. Says problems caused by move from Salt Lake City to Logan UT. Says Quest telephone company has messed up their local POTS and 800 service and their voice mail service. Also Quest provides DSL to company and that has been messed up. I was given a direct phone number to the rep I talked to, so to bypass voice mail. As a victim, errr, customer of Qworst, I feel their pain. We spent four months trying to get a business DSL hookup working for a satellite office to the College. Nothing but runaround and BS from Qwest. Finally we told 'em to bleep off and we got a cable connection from Cox, and it's worked flawlessly ever since. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 19:10:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Wallstreet Battery. From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laptops-Battery.com used to have Wallstreet batteries that were just above $100. I just made a search and here is what I found: http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/p roducts_id/5403 (snip) -Laurent. Hi. I just checked out the link you gave me. I also poked around that web site and found that they have the same battery listed under different part numbers at different prices. The link you gave me listed it for $103. This link list it for $129 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/5398 And this link list it for $149. http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/6375 I am wondering if their is a difference in the bateries? Does any one have expierence in purchasing from this company? Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet battery
My original WS battery lasted 4 years, almost to the day. I can still get about 20-30 minutes' charge on it, but I use a replacement battery I bought 2 1/2 years ago (99% of the time I run off A/C) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 19:10:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Wallstreet Battery. From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laptops-Battery.com used to have Wallstreet batteries that were just above $100. I just made a search and here is what I found: http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/p roducts_id/5403 (snip) -Laurent. Hi. I just checked out the link you gave me. I also poked around that web site and found that they have the same battery listed under different part numbers at different prices. The link you gave me listed it for $103. This link list it for $129 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info. php/products_id/5398 And this link list it for $149. http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info. php/products_id/6375 I am wondering if their is a difference in the bateries? Does any one have expierence in purchasing from this company? Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:37:01 -0800 (PST) From: Don P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wallstreet Battery In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/05, Kenneth Vann wrote: I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. The APC one I got 6 months ago, does not charge in VST Charger or PowerBook. APC does not want to replace it under their one year warranty, as this would be the third one from them. It would be helpful to others if those being difficult or providing substandard service or materials are clearly identified. What dealers did you deal with? APC Was direct from them. I am waiting for return phone call. The other was from Eagle Imports Intl, 2757 So 300 West Suite # D Salt Lake City, UT 84115. This is the company that has not responded to my repeat phone calls for a RMA. Will let you know how it goes with the charge card company refunding the charge. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
on 06/02/05 16:33, Kenneth Vann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 19:10:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Wallstreet Battery. From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laptops-Battery.com used to have Wallstreet batteries that were just above $100. I just made a search and here is what I found: http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/p roducts_id/5403 (snip) -Laurent. Hi. I just checked out the link you gave me. I also poked around that web site and found that they have the same battery listed under different part numbers at different prices. The link you gave me listed it for $103. This link list it for $129 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info. php/products_id/5398 And this link list it for $149. http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info. php/products_id/6375 I am wondering if their is a difference in the bateries? Does any one have expierence in purchasing from this company? I did purchase one for my Pismo back then. The battery still performs like the original one. I found the one that was the cheapest and had no problem with it. That's why I posted the link... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe, trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. -Rich Cook -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Battery.
Can anyone tell me if new batteries are available from Apple for the Wallstreet PowerBook? Can anyone recomend a Apple service dealer in Virginia? I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. The APC one I got 6 months ago, does not charge in VST Charger or PowerBook. APC does not want to replace it under their one year warranty, as this would be the third one from them. The Apple brand I have does charge in both the VST Charger and PowerBook, but because of age, it only last about 50 minutes. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
The National Enquirer reports at 3:26 PM -0500 2/5/05, Kenneth Vann wrote: Can anyone tell me if new batteries are available from Apple for the Wallstreet PowerBook? The last time I checked (several months ago) they were still available. But they are v-e-r-y expensive these days. The same battery, from the same vendor, that I bought for $130, now costs almost twice that. Can anyone recommend a Apple service dealer in Virginia? I can't help you with a local dealer. But if you if you are willing to order from an on-line vendor, I'd recommend http://www.PBparts.com I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. Some 3rd-party batteries have bad reputations. I have heard good things about batteries from Newer Tech, if you don't want to pay the price for an genuine Apple battery. Good Luck, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
on 05/02/05 16:58, Bob at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 3:26 PM -0500 2/5/05, Kenneth Vann wrote: Can anyone tell me if new batteries are available from Apple for the Wallstreet PowerBook? The last time I checked (several months ago) they were still available. But they are v-e-r-y expensive these days. The same battery, from the same vendor, that I bought for $130, now costs almost twice that. Can anyone recommend a Apple service dealer in Virginia? I can't help you with a local dealer. But if you if you are willing to order from an on-line vendor, I'd recommend http://www.PBparts.com I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. Some 3rd-party batteries have bad reputations. I have heard good things about batteries from Newer Tech, if you don't want to pay the price for an genuine Apple battery. Good Luck, Bob Laptops-Battery.com used to have Wallstreet batteries that were just above $100. I just made a search and here is what I found: http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/p roducts_id/5403 Or http://tinyurl.com/3mqv3 Where are you located in Virginia? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] geek n.: A person who has chosen concentration rather than conformity; one who pursues skill (especially technical skill) and imagination, not mainstream social acceptance. Geeks usually have a strong case of neophilia. Most geeks are adept with computers and treat hacker as a term of respect, but not all are hackers themselves - and some who are in fact hackers normally call themselves geeks anyway, because they (quite properly) regard `hacker' as a label that should be bestowed by others rather than self-assumed. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
On Feb 5, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Kenneth Vann wrote: Can anyone recomend a Apple service dealer in Virginia? Northern Virginia? Mac Upgrades in Bethesda, Maryland, has probably the best reputation of any dealer in the metro area. Peter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
The National Enquirer reports at 7:10 PM -0500 2/5/05, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 05/02/05 16:58, Bob at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 3:26 PM -0500 2/5/05, Kenneth Vann wrote: Can anyone tell me if new batteries are available from Apple for the Wallstreet PowerBook? The last time I checked (several months ago) they were still available. But they are v-e-r-y expensive these days. The same battery, from the same vendor, that I bought for $130, now costs almost twice that. Can anyone recommend a Apple service dealer in Virginia? I can't help you with a local dealer. But if you if you are willing to order from an on-line vendor, I'd recommend http://www.PBparts.com I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. Some 3rd-party batteries have bad reputations. I have heard good things about batteries from Newer Tech, if you don't want to pay the price for an genuine Apple battery. Good Luck, Bob Laptops-Battery.com used to have Wallstreet batteries that were just above $100. I just made a search and here is what I found: http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/p roducts_id/5403 I didn't check your URL, Laurent, but are these sub-$100 batteries, actual Apple batteries, or 3rd-party compatibles? Something for battery buyers to keep in mind is that Lithium-Ion batteries have life-limits on *both* the total number of charge/discharge cycles (~200 is a frequent number quoted) *and* on the their shelf life. You just have a 2-3 year practical life on batteries and there's not much to do except replace them. Unfortunately **rechargeable batteries start their life-span immediately upon manufacture.** So, if Apple is not buying newly manufactured Wallstreet batteries (and one wonders whether the market is big enough for a 1998 laptop, to buy many newly manufactured batteries), whatever you buy off-the-shelf is going to be a partial-life battery. How much life remains, depends on how long ago it was manufactured. And FWIW even if you never run your PB on batteries, the Li Ions won't remain100% usable (i.e. number of hrs of useful charge) generally for more than 2 or 3 years. (Notice I didn't say they would die in 2-3 years, I said they would not allow you to run as long on battery power as they initially did.) There are exceptions, of course. The same things applies to 3rd-party batteries. Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery.
on 2/5/05 21:31, Bob at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] I didn't check your URL, Laurent, but are these sub-$100 batteries, actual Apple batteries, or 3rd-party compatibles? These are 3rd-party compatibles. You would probably have a hard time finding a genuine Apple's one these days and, as you pointed out in your message, even if you could find one, it wouldn't probably hold a charge because it would be way too old... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CLM /C-L-M/: [Sun: `Career Limiting Move'] 1. n. An action endangering one's future prospects of getting plum projects and raises, and possibly one's job: His Halloween costume was a parody of his manager. He won the prize for `best CLM'. 2. adj. Denotes extreme severity of a bug, discovered by a customer and obviously missed earlier because of poor testing: That's a CLM bug! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
2/5/05, Kenneth Vann wrote: I have had bad luck with third party batteries. The one I go in new this week does not charge. Does not charge in a VST charger or the PowerBook. Vendor does not answer phone calls, so I have contacted my Charge Card company. The APC one I got 6 months ago, does not charge in VST Charger or PowerBook. APC does not want to replace it under their one year warranty, as this would be the third one from them. It would be helpful to others if those being difficult or providing substandard service or materials are clearly identified. What dealers did you deal with? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet Battery Question
I'm having a problem with NewerTech's PowerBook G3 WallStreet Li-Ion Battery (NWTBAPLLIWS) from OWC. Works great for about 2 weeks (charges, lasts about 3 hours (according to time remaining), takes a charge fine when plugged in (e.g., goes to 100%)) then won't take a charge. I'm on my 2nd one with same results. My 5 1/2 year old original apple battery still charges (but only lasts an hour or so) so I doubt its the WS. Anyone else have this problem? I've reset the PMU twice, no change. I've tried both slots and one battery at a time. No change. OEM charges, new on doesn't. I'm about to send it back and ask for something different. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery Charger
Barbara, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I can't get the battery charger to charge a battery. Does anyone know what the problem might be. While not the only possible problem, look very carefully on the female Power connector on the Wallstreet and see if any part of the shielding tape that is attached to the inside of bottom case have come loose and can come into contact with the outside of the Power Supply male connector. I had this problem with a WS II before and the solution was to take apart the machine and reattach the tape that was loose. I put other thin tape on top of it to hold it in place. This problem is mentioned in the repair manual. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery Charger
Hello Barb. Does the Wallstreet recognise the battery.I had a problem with mine in this way and the battery reset programme from apple put it back on its tracks. This programme is a free download from the Apple site. Good luck.John in UK. At 10:30 am -0400 1/7/04, G-Books wrote: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Barbara Guild [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wallstreet Battery Charger Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:06:14 -1000 I can't get the battery charger to charge a battery. Does anyone know what the problem might be. The Wallstreet runs when connected to the power adaptor, but does not run with the battery. I've even bought a new battery, but it still doesn't work. Barb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet Battery Charger
I can't get the battery charger to charge a battery. Does anyone know what the problem might be. The Wallstreet runs when connected to the power adaptor, but does not run with the battery. I've even bought a new battery, but it still doesn't work. Barb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery Charger
I'd guess bad charger module. On Jun 30, 2004, at 5:06 PM, Barbara Guild wrote: I can't get the battery charger to charge a battery. Does anyone know what the problem might be. The Wallstreet runs when connected to the power adaptor, but does not run with the battery. I've even bought a new battery, but it still doesn't work. Barb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery Charger
My Reply follows quote. On 30/06/2004 15:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I can't get the battery charger to charge a battery. Does anyone know what the problem might be. The Wallstreet runs when connected to the power adaptor, but does not run with the battery. I've even bought a new battery, but it still doesn't work. Barb - From those who should know: Computer runs when plugged into wall outlet but not on battery power: 1 Reset power manager (shift-Fn-Ctrl-Pwr button). 2 Check battery shims (refer to Additional Procedures chapter.) 3 Reseat battery to make sure battery is mating with contacts on I/O logic board. 4 Try battery in opposite expansion bay. 5 Try known-good, firmly seated, charged battery. Repeat once. 6 Try known-good power adapter. 7 Replace charge card. 8 Replace PMU board. 9 Replace power supply card. 10 Replace I/O logic board. HTH Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Oh dear! It does work, but I too thought my fingers were going to break off backwards, from holding those keys! For me, it worked once out of about six tries, then I gave up. However, my battery is how charging, but whether it was the Open Firmware or my booting into OS 9 that did it, I shall never know. Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England On Saturday, June 5, 2004, at 09:59 PM, G-Books wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ??? Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 08:15:40 -0700 Lucky you. I have nearly broken off my fingers trying to get a Wallstreet I to boot into open firmware. I am convinced it will not happen. On Jun 5, 2004, at 4:18 AM, Susan Platter wrote: When I tried this on my Wallstreet, which is showing exactly the same symptoms as described in Macintouch, I got a message that reset-nvram was an unknown word. reset-all seemed to work, as the screen blanked out and the Wallstreet went into a normal OS X startup, but what does reset-nvram do and why should it not be a recognised command? Will it work without the hyphen? Incidentally, I have great difficulty getting Open Firmware to start. Sometimes it does, but most times not. Is there any way of setting it to start up, without having to hold those keys down? Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
I didn't know the Wallstreet had built-in OpenFirmware. ALL PCI-based Macs (from the 7200 onward) have OpenFirmware. Some have a more complete OF than others, but all PCI-based Macs have OF to one degree or another. - Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 Laurent Daudelin wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Another user testimonial: I gave this a try on a Pismo battery I had given up on and now it appears to have been restored to almost new capacity! I am very impressed and grateful. Dan- _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
On Jun 6, 2004, at 5:55 pm, Dan Colwell wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 Laurent Daudelin wrote: Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Another user testimonial: I gave this a try on a Pismo battery I had given up on and now it appears to have been restored to almost new capacity! I am very impressed and grateful. Dan- May I ask exactly how did you do this?? Alan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
When I tried this on my Wallstreet, which is showing exactly the same symptoms as described in Macintouch, I got a message that reset-nvram was an unknown word. reset-all seemed to work, as the screen blanked out and the Wallstreet went into a normal OS X startup, but what does reset-nvram do and why should it not be a recognised command? Will it work without the hyphen? Incidentally, I have great difficulty getting Open Firmware to start. Sometimes it does, but most times not. Is there any way of setting it to start up, without having to hold those keys down? Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England On Friday, June 4, 2004, at 08:30 PM, G-Books wrote: On 03/06/04 16:43, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Try: Boot into Open Firmware by pressing Command-Option-O-F at startup and first typing reset-nvram, pressing the Return key, and then reset-all. User testimonial: I rescued 2 Pismo batteries last week using the info from MacInTouch by booting into Open Firmware and issuing a reset-all command. They are working fine and continue to hold a 2-3 hr charge. To see the tip at Macintouch, go to: http://click.macworld.email-publisher.com/maabfTraaZbV0bVV0Tnb/ HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Lucky you. I have nearly broken off my fingers trying to get a Wallstreet I to boot into open firmware. I am convinced it will not happen. On Jun 5, 2004, at 4:18 AM, Susan Platter wrote: When I tried this on my Wallstreet, which is showing exactly the same symptoms as described in Macintouch, I got a message that reset-nvram was an unknown word. reset-all seemed to work, as the screen blanked out and the Wallstreet went into a normal OS X startup, but what does reset-nvram do and why should it not be a recognised command? Will it work without the hyphen? Incidentally, I have great difficulty getting Open Firmware to start. Sometimes it does, but most times not. Is there any way of setting it to start up, without having to hold those keys down? Susan Platter Swindon, Wiltshire, England On Friday, June 4, 2004, at 08:30 PM, G-Books wrote: On 03/06/04 16:43, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Try: Boot into Open Firmware by pressing Command-Option-O-F at startup and first typing reset-nvram, pressing the Return key, and then reset-all. User testimonial: I rescued 2 Pismo batteries last week using the info from MacInTouch by booting into Open Firmware and issuing a reset-all command. They are working fine and continue to hold a 2-3 hr charge. To see the tip at Macintouch, go to: http://click.macworld.email-publisher.com/maabfTraaZbV0bVV0Tnb/ HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
on 05/06/04 07:18, Susan Platter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I tried this on my Wallstreet, which is showing exactly the same symptoms as described in Macintouch, I got a message that reset-nvram was an unknown word. reset-all seemed to work, as the screen blanked out and the Wallstreet went into a normal OS X startup, but what does reset-nvram do and why should it not be a recognised command? Will it work without the hyphen? Incidentally, I have great difficulty getting Open Firmware to start. Sometimes it does, but most times not. Is there any way of setting it to start up, without having to hold those keys down? I didn't know the Wallstreet had built-in OpenFirmware. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gates's Law: The speed of software halves every 18 months. This oft-cited law is an ironic comment on the tendency of software bloat to outpace the every-18-month doubling in hardware capacity per dollar predicted by Moore's Law. The reference is to Bill Gates; Microsoft is widely considered among the worst if not the worst of the perpetrators of bloat. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
This list appears to be down, so I'll CC this to you as well. The National Enquirer reports at 4:44 PM -0400 6/3/04, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** On 03/06/04 16:43, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Try: Boot into Open Firmware by pressing Command-Option-O-F at startup and first typing reset-nvram, pressing the Return key, and then reset-all. User testimonial: I rescued 2 Pismo batteries last week using the info from MacInTouch by booting into Open Firmware and issuing a reset-all command. They are working fine and continue to hold a 2-3 hr charge. To see the tip at Macintouch, go to: http://click.macworld.email-publisher.com/maabfTraaZbV0bVV0Tnb/ HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ??? (now resetting Pismo battery)
on 03/06/04 23:25, Andrew in Ann Arbor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ??? From: Laurent Daudelin We found cells that were less than $50. The problem was with the NVRAM inside the battery. You can maybe reset it in a Wallstreet, but not in a Pismo... Could you reset the battery NVRAM in a Lombard? I've run the battery reset utility on my Lombard but I'm not sure that's the same reset that you are talking about. Didn't have a Lombard when I did the replacement. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] creationism n.: The (false) belief that large, innovative software designs can be completely specified in advance and then painlessly magicked out of the void by the normal efforts of a team of normally talented programmers. In fact, experience has shown repeatedly that good designs arise only from evolutionary, exploratory interaction between one (or at most a small handful of) exceptionally able designer(s) and an active user population -- and that the first try at a big new idea is always wrong. Unfortunately, because these truths don't fit the planning models beloved of management, they are generally ignored. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
on 03/06/04 21:36, Bob at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list appears to be down, so I'll CC this to you as well. The National Enquirer reports at 4:44 PM -0400 6/3/04, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 03/06/04 16:43, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. Try: Boot into Open Firmware by pressing Command-Option-O-F at startup and first typing reset-nvram, pressing the Return key, and then reset-all. User testimonial: I rescued 2 Pismo batteries last week using the info from MacInTouch by booting into Open Firmware and issuing a reset-all command. They are working fine and continue to hold a 2-3 hr charge. To see the tip at Macintouch, go to: http://click.macworld.email-publisher.com/maabfTraaZbV0bVV0Tnb/ HTH, Bob I'll try to retrieve the battery and see if I can do that. Thanks! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] case and paste n.: [from `cut and paste'] 1. The addition of a new feature to an existing system by selecting the code from an existing feature and pasting it in with minor changes. Common in telephony circles because most operations in a telephone switch are selected using case statements. Leads to software bloat. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Larry, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I was in contact with Batterilagret or something in Göteborg 2 years ago and they wanted 2800 SEK (maybe $350) for replacing the battery package inside. A new Apple battery then was 1800 SEK. In the end I got a fresh battery, almost new for 350 SEK ($43 or something like that). I sold it with my WS I. I also sold the crashed one for 50 SEK, so maybe someone out there know more about refurbishing batteries than I do (which is not that much really). Point then is that there are fresh batteries out there, if you advert at Swedish sites and ask for the possibility to use the battery for one day or so and return if it's a dodo. Most Mac users are very honest people I think, especially so with Pro people who make their living out of their machines and the work they do on them. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. Larry _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
On 03/06/04 14:55, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I did explore this for my Pismo battery some time ago. Although you can find replacement cells, the problem that you are likely to face is the reset of the NVRAM in the electronic circuit of the battery that tells the computer how much power remains in the cells and whether it's time to recharge the battery. We haven't found a way to reset this memory after replacing the cells and thus the battery wouldn't recharge... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George --- Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/06/04 14:55, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I did explore this for my Pismo battery some time ago. Although you can find replacement cells, the problem that you are likely to face is the reset of the NVRAM in the electronic circuit of the battery that tells the computer how much power remains in the cells and whether it's time to recharge the battery. We haven't found a way to reset this memory after replacing the cells and thus the battery wouldn't recharge... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Laurent: I thought that you could reset this on Wallstreets? But I thought that the problem was the costs of the cells. On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 02:08 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 03/06/04 14:55, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I did explore this for my Pismo battery some time ago. Although you can find replacement cells, the problem that you are likely to face is the reset of the NVRAM in the electronic circuit of the battery that tells the computer how much power remains in the cells and whether it's time to recharge the battery. We haven't found a way to reset this memory after replacing the cells and thus the battery wouldn't recharge... -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- John Slavin Kirksville, MO [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
We found cells that were less than $50. The problem was with the NVRAM inside the battery. You can maybe reset it in a Wallstreet, but not in a Pismo... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** On 03/06/04 16:39, John Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Laurent: I thought that you could reset this on Wallstreets? But I thought that the problem was the costs of the cells. On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 02:08 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 03/06/04 14:55, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I did explore this for my Pismo battery some time ago. Although you can find replacement cells, the problem that you are likely to face is the reset of the NVRAM in the electronic circuit of the battery that tells the computer how much power remains in the cells and whether it's time to recharge the battery. We haven't found a way to reset this memory after replacing the cells and thus the battery wouldn't recharge... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: ??? Wallstreet battery replacement cells ???
Nope, I didn't try OpenFirmware commands. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** On 03/06/04 16:43, George Mogiljansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Laurent, Did you try Open Firmware commands ? George --- Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/06/04 14:55, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this question has surfaced before, but I wasn't here to read the replies... Is it possible to replace the battery cells in a PowerBook Wallstreet battery ? I live in Sweden so links for US shops won't do much, it's the info I'm after. I did explore this for my Pismo battery some time ago. Although you can find replacement cells, the problem that you are likely to face is the reset of the NVRAM in the electronic circuit of the battery that tells the computer how much power remains in the cells and whether it's time to recharge the battery. We haven't found a way to reset this memory after replacing the cells and thus the battery wouldn't recharge... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet battery reconditioning?
Hi again(!), Short of getting a VST charger, is there any way to recondition a Wallstreet battery? Like some software fix? Craig W. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery reconditioning?
There is a battery reset program you can get from Apple. Or from this website: http://www.d20.co.edu/downloads/ilister.php?type=mac I'm not sure exactly where it is on that site, but there are a lot of other utils too. Hope that helps, not the best app, but it might help. Mike On Friday, April 16, 2004, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again(!), Short of getting a VST charger, is there any way to recondition a Wallstreet battery? Like some software fix? Craig W. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PRAM/Backup battery in WallStreet - Battery Reset
On 3/2/04 2:02 am, Paul Nelson said: At 11:28 PM + 2/2/04, JOHN.E.ABRAHAM wrote: Does this mean that before i go about trying to replace the PRAM battery I first need to try and recharge it. For sure, that's the first thing to do if you haven't had it on external power for an extended period lately. As we are talking WallStreets here, don't forget the Apple Battery Reset application (sorry, don't have the link handy). This application has revived my WallStreet battery several times, when I might otherwise have assumed the battery was dead (no longer holding any charge). I know that a few times I have run out of battery power completely and probably the PRAM/backup battery has run out as well. The main battery refuses to recharge until it is reset by Battery Reset. Maybe a sign of a faulty power manager board (also quite common, it seems). Worth a shot... Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: PRAM/Backup battery in WallStreet - Battery Reset
Hello Listers, Thank you all for the additional info, I did notice the link to the site for good battery prices and will also try the battery reset programme. I have noticed that the battery is not being seen by the PB. It reports that the LH media bay is empty and there are no leads alight on the side of the battery.This I suspect is because I did not use it over the Christmas / New Year period and beyond.The battery must be flat and thus the Pram also, as without any power in the main battery the Pram discharged as well. As for Jim's problem I am not sure if it relates to the PRAM as the sign normally is that the date has reset to the year 1904.Showing that the PRAM has run out of charge if the PB is keeping time but loosing or gaining seconds this may be another fault. My Wallstreet Date Time function consistently seems to lose about 15-30 seconds as evidenced by the adjustment that occurs almost every time when I tell the control panel to manually set time now. It seems oblivious to the interval between those checks. Also, it may actually be more serious since the CPanel is supposed to auto-check for differences often anyway and I am merely noting what changes the auto function has not fixed. Is this kind of thing clearly indicative of bad PRAM battery? I have not noted other problems other than the usual aggravating random crashes that dog me from time to time. Thanks, Jim * Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PRAM/Backup battery in WallStreet - Battery Reset Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:42:40 + From: Mike Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/2/04 2:02 am, Paul Nelson said: At 11:28 PM + 2/2/04, JOHN.E.ABRAHAM wrote: Does this mean that before i go about trying to replace the PRAM battery I first need to try and recharge it. For sure, that's the first thing to do if you haven't had it on external power for an extended period lately. As we are talking WallStreets here, don't forget the Apple Battery Reset application (sorry, don't have the link handy). This application has revived my WallStreet battery several times, when I might otherwise have assumed the battery was dead (no longer holding any charge). I know that a few times I have run out of battery power completely and probably the PRAM/backup battery has run out as well. The main battery refuses to recharge until it is reset by Battery Reset. Maybe a sign of a faulty power manager board (also quite common, it seems). Worth a shot... Mike Thanks again John Abraham. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet battery update
Just for information as there's always someone who might have a similar problem. It turns out that both the battery bays on the Wallstreet are fine, it's the original battery that's dead, stone dead. The new one charges fine and I will shortly calibrate it. Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? I never want to use a good battery in a deasktop Power Book, but it's always good to have some battery charge, even if it's only 10 minutes worth in case the power should die or a cable become dislodged... Laurence _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery update
My Reply follows quote. On 27/09/2003 01:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? -- Paperweight, ballast to keep the machine from tipping over backwards. Not much else. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery update
On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Tekno Liber wrote: Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? Well, you might be able to split it apart and put new cells in it. The cells may be standardized OEM parts. You could at least crack it open, and tell the list what kind of cells are in it. I'd also be curios to know it after you open it, can it be put back together? Paul -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Cells inside a WallStreet battery
Hi again! I've cracked mine open and there are 12 cells, type: Panasonic Lithium ion CGR17670HC I have a pdf file from Panasonic which describes these cells in detail, if anyone is interested. If anyone has a clue where I could get 24 of these (or equivalent) at a sane price, I'd be very happy! Perhaps there's a bulk discount if we club together? All the best Karl Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:32:11 -0700 Subject: Re: Wallstreet battery update From: Paul Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Tekno Liber wrote: Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? Well, you might be able to split it apart and put new cells in it. The cells may be standardized OEM parts. You could at least crack it open, and tell the list what kind of cells are in it. I'd also be curios to know it after you open it, can it be put back together? Paul -- Dr. K. Gensberg,Tel. (44) 121-414 5406 School of Biosciences, Fax. (44) 121-414 6840 University of Birmingham, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT, England. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Cells inside a WallStreet battery
http://www.slavin4u.com/lithium.htm That website is selling them for 8$ and some change each. I'm sure you can find them cheaper. On Saturday, Sep 27, 2003, at 11:23 US/Eastern, Dr. K. Gensberg wrote: CGR17670HC -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Cells inside a WallStreet battery
on 27/09/03 11:23, Dr. K. Gensberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again! I've cracked mine open and there are 12 cells, type: Panasonic Lithium ion CGR17670HC I have a pdf file from Panasonic which describes these cells in detail, if anyone is interested. If anyone has a clue where I could get 24 of these (or equivalent) at a sane price, I'd be very happy! Perhaps there's a bulk discount if we club together? All the best Karl On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Tekno Liber wrote: Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? Well, you might be able to split it apart and put new cells in it. The cells may be standardized OEM parts. You could at least crack it open, and tell the list what kind of cells are in it. I'd also be curios to know it after you open it, can it be put back together? Paul Know that even if you replace the cells, that doesn't mean the battery will start working again. Smart laptop batteries, like the ones in Wallstreet, Lombard and Pismos, to name a few, have an electronic circuit board that communicates with the computer to let him know about the state of the battery. These circuits have apparently a tiny non-volatile RAM that is hard to reset. If the last information stored is about the battery being dead, then the battery won't recharge, even with new cells. I know because I did replace the cells in a Pismo battery but the battery never charged when put back in the Pismo. So, beware before forking out some hard earned cash on cells that could be useless. However, if you want to try, go for it. Maybe you and we will learn something in the process... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Cells inside a WallStreet battery
On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 27/09/03 11:23, Dr. K. Gensberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again! I've cracked mine open and there are 12 cells, type: Panasonic Lithium ion CGR17670HC I have a pdf file from Panasonic which describes these cells in detail, if anyone is interested. If anyone has a clue where I could get 24 of these (or equivalent) at a sane price, I'd be very happy! Perhaps there's a bulk discount if we club together? Search down the local Panasonic manufactures rep. It should be available from their webpage. Know that even if you replace the cells, that doesn't mean the battery will start working again. Smart laptop batteries, like the ones in Wallstreet, Lombard and Pismos, to name a few, have an electronic circuit board that communicates with the computer to let him know about the state of the battery. These circuits have apparently a tiny non-volatile RAM that is hard to reset. If the last information stored is about the battery being dead, then the battery won't recharge, even with new cells. I know because I did replace the cells in a Pismo battery but the battery never charged when put back in the Pismo. There are several manufacturers of battery control chips. Look at the numbers on the chip and tell us which one is used. (let's hope its not a custom part, an standard part marked with an in house number (Apple does this), or a specially programmed microprocessor). The chip documentation will tell how to reset it. As to whether it's easy to do is another matter, it may require a implementing a communication protocol. I don't know if these chips implement a EPROM type memory to store data non-volatile data, or if they depend on a small amount of voltage from the battery always being there to keep alive a CMOS RAM. Anyway, the chip spec will reveal those details. So, beware before forking out some hard earned cash on cells that could be useless. However, if you want to try, go for it. Maybe you and we will learn something in the process... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Cells inside a Wallstreet battery
On Sep 27, 2003, at 7:45 PM, G-Books wrote: On Saturday, September 27, 2003, at 01:43 AM, Tekno Liber wrote: Is there anything one can do to a dead Li-Ion battery ? Well, you might be able to split it apart and put new cells in it. The cells may be standardized OEM parts. You could at least crack it open, and tell the list what kind of cells are in it. I'd also be curios to know it after you open it, can it be put back together? Paul Know that even if you replace the cells, that doesn't mean the battery will start working again. Smart laptop batteries, like the ones in Wallstreet, Lombard and Pismos, to name a few, have an electronic circuit board that communicates with the computer to let him know about the state of the battery. These circuits have apparently a tiny non-volatile RAM that is hard to reset. If the last information stored is about the battery being dead, then the battery won't recharge, even with new cells. I know because I did replace the cells in a Pismo battery but the battery never charged when put back in the Pismo. So, beware before forking out some hard earned cash on cells that could be useless. However, if you want to try, go for it. Maybe you and we will learn something in the process... I would recommend doing what I am going to do: Buy a replacement battery first. After about 6 months crack open the old battery and purchase similar cells. Then pray for another 6 months that it works and then go into 6 months of counseling. That way if the cells don't work when you first try them you are not disappointed and your insurance covers your insanity because you sought counseling before the unfortunate moment that your cells started on fire. For all of you neo-conservatives (and other similar people) out there: This was a joke. g -- Ryan Coleman SysAdmin/DBA LowEndMac.net Sick of .Mac's lack of support? Try LowEndMac.net! Emails and more starting at $12/year! http://www.lowendmac.net/accounts/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would venture that maybe the Power Management Unit has gone south... Try to reset it, if you haven't tried to do so. I remember reading about it, or at least seeing it mentioned, but as always, one doesn't take it in until one needs the info... Is that an easy thing to do ? Laurence _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
on 26/09/03 03:16, Tekno Liber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would venture that maybe the Power Management Unit has gone south... Try to reset it, if you haven't tried to do so. I remember reading about it, or at least seeing it mentioned, but as always, one doesn't take it in until one needs the info... Is that an easy thing to do ? Yes, that's easy to do. Look on the back. There is a reset button. I don't remember the exact procedure for the Wallstreet, but it should be mention in the manual you have. You basically hold the reset button on the Mac for a number of seconds, then restart, or maybe the computer restarts itself. There are signs that will tell you did reset it properly. These signs vary from the model of PowerBook. Check your manual. Do a search in the Apple's Technical Notes. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] choke v.: 1. [common] To reject input, often ungracefully. NULs make System V's lpr(1) choke. I tried building an EMACS binary to use X, but cpp(1) choked on all those #defines. See barf, gag, vi. 2. [MIT] More generally, to fail at any endeavor, but with some flair or bravado; the popular definition is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet battery woes
I'm sure this must be one of the most covered topics on this list, but as one tends to only read/reply to the threads that apply at that time, one bypasses a lot of threads until they actually become of interest, so please forgive me for bringing it up again (if that is the case...) I have just bought an old Wallstreet where the Mac is reporting that the battery bay to be empty even though there is a battery fitted. I presume that the battery is dead, but is there a possibility of a fault of a different kind ? I had a WS 266 where the battery was dead and did not take charge, but at least the indicator showed a battery being present. Laurence _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
On 25/09/03 14:47, Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure this must be one of the most covered topics on this list, but as one tends to only read/reply to the threads that apply at that time, one bypasses a lot of threads until they actually become of interest, so please forgive me for bringing it up again (if that is the case...) I have just bought an old Wallstreet where the Mac is reporting that the battery bay to be empty even though there is a battery fitted. I presume that the battery is dead, but is there a possibility of a fault of a different kind ? Have you tried with another battery? Could be a bad contact in the expansion bay. Did you try it in the other expansion bay? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you tried with another battery? I did buy a second hand battery which I know is good, but it's at work. --- Could be a bad contact in the expansion bay. Did you try it in the other expansion bay? Control strip says either bay is empty with the battery in it/them... Laurence _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
On 25/09/03 16:24, Tekno Liber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you tried with another battery? I did buy a second hand battery which I know is good, but it's at work. --- Could be a bad contact in the expansion bay. Did you try it in the other expansion bay? Control strip says either bay is empty with the battery in it/them... I'm not the best expert in PowerBook hardware around, but I would venture that maybe the Power Management Unit has gone south... Try to reset it, if you haven't tried to do so. I remember that I did replace it during the 9 months I had a Wallstreet... -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery woes
My Reply follows quote. On 25/09/2003 11:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm sure this must be one of the most covered topics on this list, but as one tends to only read/reply to the threads that apply at that time, one bypasses a lot of threads until they actually become of interest, so please forgive me for bringing it up again (if that is the case...) I have just bought an old Wallstreet where the Mac is reporting that the battery bay to be empty even though there is a battery fitted. I presume that the battery is dead, but is there a possibility of a fault of a different kind ? I had a WS 266 where the battery was dead and did not take charge, but at least the indicator showed a battery being present. -- While it could be another problem, if you have swapped bays and see the no battery indication switch positions, it is most likely the battery. I had the same indication with a Wallstreet battery. Got a new one and it works like a champ. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery
RE; though not addressed to me, this is very helpful info,, thankyou On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 11:29 AM, Byron Gardner wrote: www.batterytech.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery problem
Last June, I emailed the list for advice on batteries in my WallStreet: * When I first bought my Wallstreet, the battery in it lasted about a year before it would suddenly die - I'd have about three quarters of battery left showing on the control strip, and then there would be a message about the battery being about to die and the computer going to sleep to preserve contents of memory. I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. So, I have three batteries, each with about 20 minutes worth (the first quarter) of life in them. Is there anything that can be done to revive them? I opened one of them up to have a look at the individual cells inside, with a view to buying more and re-packing the case. Is this do-able? * Well, out of curiosity and following related advice given recently, I downloaded MyBattery Pro 1.0.0a4. With the software running, my most recent battery which would normally last about 15 minutes before dying actually lasted for ONE AND A HALF HOURS! I tried another dud battery.this one lasted 15 minutes, and I was quick enough to switcj on the AC adaptor before the computer shut down. After a lengthy recharge process (monitored by MyBattery), this one too now lasts about an hour and a half. I'm now trying my old, original battery which came with the machine, the one I opened up to see about re-packing with new cells. It lasted about 2 minutes before failing, and I'm currently recharging it while running MyBattery. It's taking a LONG time to charge, which is not what happens when MyBattery is not running. So, it looks as if MyBattery software has somehow intervened in the charging process, restoring normal function. The Apple recharging software seems to be at fault. Can anyone tell me more? What's going on? Thanks to all -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet battery problem
on 1/20/03 9:09 AM, Dr. K. Gensberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last June, I emailed the list for advice on batteries in my WallStreet: * When I first bought my Wallstreet, the battery in it lasted about a year before it would suddenly die - I'd have about three quarters of battery left showing on the control strip, and then there would be a message about the battery being about to die and the computer going to sleep to preserve contents of memory. I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. So, I have three batteries, each with about 20 minutes worth (the first quarter) of life in them. Is there anything that can be done to revive them? I opened one of them up to have a look at the individual cells inside, with a view to buying more and re-packing the case. Is this do-able? * Well, out of curiosity and following related advice given recently, I downloaded MyBattery Pro 1.0.0a4. With the software running, my most recent battery which would normally last about 15 minutes before dying actually lasted for ONE AND A HALF HOURS! I tried another dud battery.this one lasted 15 minutes, and I was quick enough to switcj on the AC adaptor before the computer shut down. After a lengthy recharge process (monitored by MyBattery), this one too now lasts about an hour and a half. I'm now trying my old, original battery which came with the machine, the one I opened up to see about re-packing with new cells. It lasted about 2 minutes before failing, and I'm currently recharging it while running MyBattery. It's taking a LONG time to charge, which is not what happens when MyBattery is not running. So, it looks as if MyBattery software has somehow intervened in the charging process, restoring normal function. The Apple recharging software seems to be at fault. Can anyone tell me more? What's going on? Thanks to all -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery Not Seating Right (?)
Unfortunately this is a common problem, and also unfortunately, I've never known the torx screw adjustment to correct it. I have had the same problem twice, where you ever so gently touch the battery and the laptop just dies. Even after repair, it still happens occasionally. Apple Service Center replaced internal boards to solve the problem. Popping the battery out and back in every so often, and perhaps checking to see if the contacts are clean, may seem to help somewhat, but no guarantees. I just naturally favor that side now... - Jeff Lentz --- P.F.Grenier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a way to fix that, it involves the adjusting the torx screw nearest the latch lever. I can't remember the specifics, check Apple support. On Wednesday, Sep 11, 2002, at 19:23 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All: I have a Wallstreet 250 and lately the battery seems to get disconnected or fails to make contact -- I'll be using it on battery and then suddenly it shuts down as if there's no battery and needs to be plugged in. Sometimes the battery charges, sometimes it doesn't (and shows only one green LED or just the bottom 5th of the menu bar battery gauge) and on some occasions the menu bar indicator has an X through the battery. Is this a common problem? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Spencer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet Battery Not Seating Right (?)
On Wednesday, Sep 11, 2002, at 19:23 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All: I have a Wallstreet 250 and lately the battery seems to get disconnected or fails to make contact -- I'll be using it on battery and then suddenly it shuts down as if there's no battery and needs to be plugged in. Sometimes the battery charges, sometimes it doesn't (and shows only one green LED or just the bottom 5th of the menu bar battery gauge) and on some occasions the menu bar indicator has an X through the battery. Is this a common problem? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Spencer Try this: 1. Charge the battery all the way up, if you can; 2. Drain it all, if you can, until the machine goes dead; 3. Recharge battery all the way, if you can; 4. Zap PRAM; 5. Reset Power Manager button; 6. Restart; 7. Shut down and take the battery out for the night, making sure the battery's posts are free of junk; 8. Try it again after a break. -- If you can read this, you've gone too far. Best, Burkman ICQ 62393161 If the American dream is for Americans only, it will remain our dream and never be our destiny. -- Ren'e de Visme Williamson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet Battery Not Seating Right (?)
Charging and shut-down problems aside, I realized that I'd overlooked your comments below in my response. If you are seeing the battery missing X in the menu bar, you may be experiencing a loose battery. The Apple article is 22211, link here (if it works): http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=22211SaveKCWindowURL=http%3A%2F%2Fkbase.info.apple.com%2Fcgi-bin%2FWebObjects%2Fkbase.woa%2Fwa%2FSaveKCToHomePagesearchMode=Expertkbhost=kbase.info.apple.comshowButton=falserandomValue=100showSurvey=truesessionID=anonymous|147765681 Best of luck. - Jeff Lentz Sometimes the battery charges, sometimes it doesn't (and shows only one green LED or just the bottom 5th of the menu bar battery gauge) and on some occasions the menu bar indicator has an X through the battery. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: WallStreet Battery Problem
Should I disable inactive PC Cards, too? I'm new to the world of portables. __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute When I say freezes, I mean it locks up. No clock movement, no mouse movement. Someone asked if I was using USB. I do have a MacAlly USB card installed, THAT'S IT You must disable 'Processor Cycling' in the energy saver control panel. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: WallStreet Battery Problem
On Thursday, Sep 12, 2002, at 21:26 US/Eastern, Van Turner wrote: Should I disable inactive PC Cards, too? I'm new to the world of portables. For some reason there is just a problem with USB, you can leave the cards in, just disable processor cycling -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: WallStreet Battery Problem
Try putting the battery in the other bay. Also, please elaborate on freezes. What exactly does it do? My understanding of freezes is unlike any battery problem I've seen on a 300 WS. - Jeff Lentz --- Van Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 300Mhz Series II WallStreet won't run for long on the battery. It freezes after about 10 seconds. Works fine on the yo-yo. Tried what someone suggested earlier and ran Battery Reset 2.0. No difference. Could I have a loose connection to the battery? __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Wallstreet Battery Not Seating Right (?)
Dear All: I have a Wallstreet 250 and lately the battery seems to get disconnected or fails to make contact -- I'll be using it on battery and then suddenly it shuts down as if there's no battery and needs to be plugged in. Sometimes the battery charges, sometimes it doesn't (and shows only one green LED or just the bottom 5th of the menu bar battery gauge) and on some occasions the menu bar indicator has an X through the battery. Is this a common problem? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Spencer -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: WallStreet Battery Problem
On Wednesday, Sep 11, 2002, at 19:49 US/Eastern, Van Turner wrote: on 09/11/2002 8:52 AM, Jeff Lentz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try putting the battery in the other bay. Also, please elaborate on freezes. What exactly does it do? My understanding of freezes is unlike any battery problem I've seen on a 300 WS. - Jeff Lentz --- Van Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 300Mhz Series II WallStreet won't run for long on the battery. It freezes after about 10 seconds. Works fine on the yo-yo. Tried what someone suggested earlier and ran Battery Reset 2.0. No difference. Could I have a loose connection to the battery? __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute When I say freezes, I mean it locks up. No clock movement, no mouse movement. Someone asked if I was using USB. I do have a MacAlly USB card installed, THAT'S IT You must disable 'Processor Cycling' in the energy saver control panel. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
WallStreet Battery Problem
My 300Mhz Series II WallStreet won't run for long on the battery. It freezes after about 10 seconds. Works fine on the yo-yo. Tried what someone suggested earlier and ran Battery Reset 2.0. No difference. Could I have a loose connection to the battery? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet battery problem revisited
Does anyone know where I might get a new power management board (CHEAP) for my WallStreet 266? It seems to be eating batteries at a rate of one every three months, and the board seems to be the only thing I can think of (I've done the shift/option/apple/restart thing quite a few times). When I first bought my Wallstreet, the battery in it lasted about a year before it would suddenly die - I'd have about three quarters of battery left showing on the control strip, and then there would be a message about the battery being about to die and the computer going to sleep to preserve contents of memory. I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. This fourth battery (VST) has just developed the same fault, and I've only been using it for a month or so. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. Surely I'm not getting a string of defective batteries? I think David Wedge (on this list, IIRC) has them a little cheaper than powerbookparts.com. My take is that LiION batteries, while high on capacity and good on performance, don't last long. NiMHs Type II/III perform less satisfactorily, but are less likely to die prematurely. My Lombard battery died after 2 years. A new WS battery died after about 14 months. Neither had particularly heavy use. By contrast, both the PowerBook 190 and 5300 we had (NiMH) both lasted 5 years with their batteries, both of which are still going with their 2nd owners (now the batteries are almost 7 years' old). The trade off, of course, is they only last 1.5-2 hours. That makes me wonder how long NiMHs last in the 3400 or Kanga - while they won't provide much PB up-time, I bet they last longer than the LiIONs in terms of battery life. I've noted a lot of people's original iBook (1999-2000) batteries went out to lunch fairly early (12-18 months) and that replacements aren't that easy to come by. Cheers, RD Remy Davison Contributing Editor/News Editor, Insanely-Great Mac http://www.insanely-great.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RD's PowerBook page: http://www.macpowerbook.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet battery problem revisited
Does anyone know where I might get a new power management board (CHEAP) for my WallStreet 266? It seems to be eating batteries at a rate of one every three months, and the board seems to be the only thing I can think of (I've done the shift/option/apple/restart thing quite a few times). When I first bought my Wallstreet, the battery in it lasted about a year before it would suddenly die - I'd have about three quarters of battery left showing on the control strip, and then there would be a message about the battery being about to die and the computer going to sleep to preserve contents of memory. I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. This fourth battery (VST) has just developed the same fault, and I've only been using it for a month or so. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. Surely I'm not getting a string of defective batteries? Karl -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet battery problem revisited
on 7/2/02 5:34 AM, Dr. K. Gensberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I might get a new power management board (CHEAP) for my WallStreet 266? It seems to be eating batteries at a rate of one every three months, and the board seems to be the only thing I can think of (I've done the shift/option/apple/restart thing quite a few times). When I first bought my Wallstreet, the battery in it lasted about a year before it would suddenly die - I'd have about three quarters of battery left showing on the control strip, and then there would be a message about the battery being about to die and the computer going to sleep to preserve contents of memory. I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. This fourth battery (VST) has just developed the same fault, and I've only been using it for a month or so. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. Surely I'm not getting a string of defective batteries? Karl Don't feel bad...I have been through several now myself with my PB and they are showing the same signs. New batteries that check out at the factory but I can get them to charge only about 88% of capacity. Byron -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet battery problem revisited
I then bought another (Apple) battery, which worked fine for another year and then - same again. The third battery (Lacie) only lasted a few months. This fourth battery (VST) has just developed the same fault, and I've only been using it for a month or so. Batteries don't generally get a hard time from me, as I usually use the AC adapter. Surely I'm not getting a string of defective batteries? This is just one thing to look at, but where are you getting your batteries from? The problem with batteries is that they have a shelf life, and will essentially go bad. Reconditioning used to help, but not as much anymore... Battery technology just hasn't kept up. People are actually having problems getting good batteries for the first generation ibooks (toilet seats) already. In one case, a company had hundreds of them that they got in and sold to customers, only to find that they all died pretty quickly and couldn't hold a charge well before that. So it could just be worth looking into- ie, where are the batteries you're getting coming from, and how old are they? Michael Bryan Bell -- ICQ: 16106263Yahoo: mhbell1 No Link for you! AIM: drunkenbatman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Wallstreet battery problem
I have heard that 3 hours in the freezer, followed by a flat drop from a few feet up onto a hard surface will break away the dendrites that form on the opposing plates, reducing the battery's effectiveness. My one attempt by my wife hit on the corner shattered my battery. I've not heard of any other successful similar attempts. I can see how it COULD work, but can't prove that there's anything more to it than a last-ditch-effort-before-the-trashcan method. Use at your own risk. If it works, shower me with accolades (or cash). If it doesn't, you didn't hear it here. - Jeff Lentz --- Dr. K. Gensberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I have three batteries, each with about 20 minutes worth (the first quarter) of life in them. Is there anything that can be done to revive them? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Weird Wallstreet Battery problem
It sounds like it could be, but that could also be your battery. What exactly happens whey you reset the battery? Well, I found out I have more problems, but thanks. Anyway, I reset the battery, zapped the power manager and it still comes up showing a full battery. Anyway, I got the 4 year service contract so it goes back to service.net soon. I hope they are good. Thanks, Aron -- --- Aron Nelson Audio Bytes Corporation 1050 Queen Street #300 Honolulu, HI 96814 808-589-2727 FAX:808-589-2626 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Weird Wallstreet Battery problem
Just recently my Battery shows totally dead with the LEDs and button on the side of it. However in OS 9 the battery shows as totally FULL. Even if I swap it into the right bay, the control strip and clock/battery icon shows totally full. I have tried Battery Reset and Power Management Reset but it still shows full. Of course it isn't. I can unplug the power adaptor and it will shut right off. Does it sound like the PMU Board? Thanks, Aron -- Aron Nelson - [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keyboards, Computers, Pianist, Guitar My Stompbox Page: http://surf.to/stompbox, http://firebottle.net/stompbox -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Weird Wallstreet Battery problem
on 18/04/02 01:04, aron nelson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just recently my Battery shows totally dead with the LEDs and button on the side of it. However in OS 9 the battery shows as totally FULL. Even if I swap it into the right bay, the control strip and clock/battery icon shows totally full. I have tried Battery Reset and Power Management Reset but it still shows full. Of course it isn't. I can unplug the power adaptor and it will shut right off. Does it sound like the PMU Board? It sounds like it could be, but that could also be your battery. What exactly happens whey you reset the battery? -Laurent. -- = Laurent Daudelinhttp://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] COBOL /koh'bol/ n.: [COmmon Business-Oriented Language] (Synonymous with evil.) A weak, verbose, and flabby language used by card wallopers to do boring mindless things on dinosaur mainframes. Hackers believe that all COBOL programmers are suits or code grinders, and no self-respecting hacker will ever admit to having learned the language. Its very name is seldom uttered without ritual expressions of disgust or horror. One popular one is Edsger W. Dijkstra's famous observation that The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
