Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Jonathan Kelly
Hi Spider,

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:52:15 +0200
Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:25:30 +1000
 Jonathan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi there,
  
  just wanted to clarify my understanding of x86 and ~x86. I sort of
  assumed x86 mean stable and I assumed that meant that the software
  was stable, or does it just refer the fact that the ebuild is stable
  and working and won't break your system, but all bets are off as to
  whether the software is actually stable.
 
 Consider it like this, ~x86 isn't -unstable-  its -testing-. It's not
 the place where we stuff your latest alpha release software, this
 really nifty (tm) 3 version alpha that is certified as a Really Cool
 Thing  for the future.  It's where we put stable software with
 untested (in major regards) ebuilds to check for both ebuild
 inconsistencies (Sometimes they do happen, people miss dependencies and
 so on)  or conflics  (Oh, Just in, foo-1.2.4-r2 breaks library
 compability with seldom-used-1.0.22.ebuild. oops.) 
 

So is stable what the gentoo devs consider stable, or what the software
package developers consider stable. I point to gimp-print-4.3.18 which is
a development version (4.2.something is the current stable) . I know this
isn't really a critical thing in this instance (though I wouldn't like my
printing to stop working), it's just I'm starting to try and take back
control of what goes onto my systems. I think gentoo is great (tm) but
it's a bit of a moving target and becomes Ahem, not so great (tm) when
something breaks and I spend a day (or more) trying to find out what
broke.

Cheers.
Jonathan.


 So its the other way around :-)
 
 the software is (supposedly)  ready to go into stable, but the build is
 in testing .
 
 
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[gentoo-user] Build a binary package under another *non-gentoo* PC

2003-07-30 Thread Stefano
I've discovered that 1,5 GB are not enough to emerge openoffice, so I'm asking 
about the procedure (if one) to build the gentoo openoffice binary package 
with k6-2 optimization for my laptop, under my second pc. This one is an 
athlon xp 1.8 that runs a debian SID with gcc 3.3 compiler. Perhaps booting 
that machine with live cd can help?
Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Build a binary package under another *non-gentoo* PC

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Foster
Hot Diggety! Stefano was rumored to have written:
 I've discovered that 1,5 GB are not enough to emerge openoffice, so I'm
 asking about the procedure (if one) to build the gentoo openoffice binary
 package with k6-2 optimization for my laptop, under my second pc. This
 one is an athlon xp 1.8 that runs a debian SID with gcc 3.3 compiler.

One possible approach is to temporarily NFS mount /var/tmp/portage from the
other Linux machine to your laptop, do the build+install, then unmount.

That's what someone here did recently for the OpenOffice build :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nailing a particular version locally

2003-07-30 Thread Jonathan Kelly
Hi Marius,

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:16:32 +0200
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07/30/03  Jonathan Kelly wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  I was wondering, is there a way of nailing particular versions on my
  system(s), sort of like a local /etc/make.profile/packages, that won't
  get overwritten everytime I emerge sync ... I was guessing I could
  just copy/usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4 somewhere and point
  /etc/make.profile at that, but then I'd have to update that manually.
  I guess I'm hoping there's some sort of overlay feature in portage for
  the_contents_ packages file.
 
 Not that, but you can mask versions in /etc/portage/package.mask, that
 is the equivalent to /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.

Well, I guess that was exactly what I was looking for. Hmm, just thought
... what if the version I peg my system to is not considered significant,
and is deleted from the portage tree?

cheers
Jonathan.

 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Build a binary package under another *non-gentoo* PC

2003-07-30 Thread Stefano
Alle 08:28, mercoledì 30 luglio 2003, Dan Foster ha scritto:

 One possible approach is to temporarily NFS mount /var/tmp/portage from the
 other Linux machine to your laptop, do the build+install, then unmount.

 That's what someone here did recently for the OpenOffice build :)

Thanks for suggestions but I can't: one (even if it's a laptop) is at my home 
into a net with a Windoze machine. My debian box is at office :-(
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Sebastian Hungerecker
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:25:30 +1000
Jonathan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 just wanted to clarify my understanding of x86 and ~x86.
The prefix ~ says that a program (not the ebuild) is unstable, the
prefix ^ means, that the package is nearly unusable and no prefix means
that the app runs mostly stable.

x86 says Intel compatible CPU, ppc says PowerPC CPU etc.

So ~x86 means that an app runs unstable on systems with an Intel
compatible CPU and ^ppc means, that an app is nearly unusable on PC with
PPC (Macs) etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Big Gentoo Logo

2003-07-30 Thread Bram De Smet
http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/graphics.xml

or http://www.gentoo.org - menu on the left - logos and themes

cheers

Bram

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:37, João Seabra wrote:
 Hi
 
  Can anyone tell me here can I get a big gentoo (just the G) and the moo logo? 
 JPG,povray,whatever,or how to make one would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
I use it with no problems at all.
Two things:
1) Post the /var/log/messages excerpt. Maybe there is something useful 
there.
2) I had the similar problem with another card (not 3COM). I solved it by 
disabling the APIC support at the kernel.
Regards, L.

On Wed, 29 Jul 2003, Jason Giangrande wrote:

 This seems a bit odd. I'm installing gentoo on a box that has a 3Com
 3cSOHO100-TX network card. The card works fine when booting off the CD
 and seems to use the 3c59x module, but after the install, using the same
 module, the card does not work. I've double checked the kernel and all
 settings seem correct. I've checked the /etc/conf.d/net file and
 everything is fine there (the system is setup to use DHCP but it also
 doesn't work when I give it a static IP either). The module loads during
 boot up but the system hangs when it gets to the network card , and
 finally times out. Has anyone had any success using one of these cards
 before? I have two systems running perfectly using the 3Com 3c905C-TX
 cards with exactly the same settings. Anyone have any ideas as to what
 might be wrong?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
It would be terribly nice, if people tried to do the regular rtfm, mailing 
list archives and forum search routine, before sending the problem to the 
list. It's about fourth or fifth time this issue is brought up at the list 
during only last week.
  L.

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Alberto Bert wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've update perl but emerge don't want do it.
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge -pv perl
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [blocks B] dev-perl/File-Spec-0.84-r1 (from pkg
 dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12)
 [ebuildU ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.0-r12 [5.8.0-r10] +berkdb -doc +gdbm
 -threads
 
 bash-2.05b# emerge perl
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
 !!! Error: the dev-perl/Test-Simple-0.47-r1 package conflicts with this
 package and both can't be installed on the same system together.
 
 What does it mean and what should I do?
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Spider
begin  quote

 So is stable what the gentoo devs consider stable, or what the
 software package developers consider stable?

This is decided on a case-to-case basis, And the goal of the developers
is to provide as smooth updates as possible with as little disruption as
possible.




  I point to
 gimp-print-4.3.18 which is a development version (4.2.something is the
 current stable) .

However, since all packages do this a bit differently it is a floating
thing.  (xcdroast only has alpha and beta release, where the alpha is
more stable and 2 years younger than the last beta, and is the only one
thats actually compatible-.  So, Alpha is stable? ;)


  I know this isn't really a critical thing in this
 instance (though I wouldn't like my printing to stop working), it's
 just I'm starting to try and take back control of what goes onto my
 systems. I think gentoo is great (tm) but it's a bit of a moving
 target and becomes Ahem, not so great (tm) when something breaks and
 I spend a day (or more) trying to find out what broke.

This is what we try to get around and avoid. In cases where breakage
has to happen  we try to work around it anyhow (gcc-config, multiple
LIB, Block, revdep-rebuild )  and where that isn't possible we have to
fall back to educating users into reading documentation (ever noticed
that some packages tell you things about themselves? )


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Re: [gentoo-user] Nailing a particular version locally

2003-07-30 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:30:32 +1000
Jonathan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Marius,
 
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:16:32 +0200
 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 07/30/03  Jonathan Kelly wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
   I was wondering, is there a way of nailing particular versions on

 
 Well, I guess that was exactly what I was looking for. Hmm, just
 thought... what if the version I peg my system to is not considered
 significant, and is deleted from the portage tree?
 

The ebuild is always stored in /var/db/pkg, so you can get it from
there..


and, if you only want a certain version and don't want to upgrade in the
future... perhaps 

emerge --oneshot thingie
will be applyable?


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Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync taking forever

2003-07-30 Thread Henry Kleynhans

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Actually, read through this article.  It seems to indicate that the portage 
system will not be running any quicker any time soon.

http://www.uwyn.com/resources/gentoo_departure.html

On Wednesday 30 July 2003 01:08, Marius Mauch wrote:
 On 07/29/03  Fred Van Andel wrote:
  Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  (07/29/2003 15:08)
 
  On 07/29/03  daniel wrote:
   On July 29, 2003 04:48 pm, Marius Mauch wrote:
The better way would be to rewrite portage with a modular
  
  approach,  so it can use different backends (the current code is
  not very  friendly for that). But that needs a lot of time.
  
   alright then, i have some (not much, but some time).  what
  
  languages do i need to know?  like i said earlier, i'm just a
  webgeek (perl/php/mysql) but i'm willing to dive into python if it
  means getting a more robust portage.
  
  No one is currently working on that and AFAIK there are no plans for
  a portage rewrite in the near future, so it's hard to say what
  languages will be needed for that. Most likely are C/C++ or Python,
  but that's just my opinion.
 
  Someone did write a db back end and posted it to bugzilla. Carpaski
  was looking at it but I dont know if anything actually came from it.
  I suggest you actually discuss this with carpaski before you attempt a
  rewrite, you might just save yourself some grief.

 Sure, I'm not attempting to do any coding right now without any planning
 and discussing. This is only a long term idea for now.

 Marius

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[gentoo-user] Re: Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Sebastian Hungerecker (2003-07-30 08:56 +0200)
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:25:30 +1000
 Jonathan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 just wanted to clarify my understanding of x86 and ~x86.
 The prefix ~ says that a program (not the ebuild) is unstable, the
 prefix ^ means, that the package is nearly unusable and no prefix means
 that the app runs mostly stable.

Never seen this ^ thingy mentioned anywhere. Can you give us some
sort of reference?

Thorsten


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Re: [gentoo-user] Big Gentoo Logo

2003-07-30 Thread Andrea Gagliardi
We would like to have something like an eps with just the G of Gentoo.

Andrea

Bram De Smet wrote:

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/graphics.xml

or http://www.gentoo.org - menu on the left - logos and themes

cheers

Bram

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 08:37, João Seabra wrote:
  

Hi

 Can anyone tell me here can I get a big gentoo (just the G) and the moo logo? 
JPG,povray,whatever,or how to make one would be greatly appreciated.


 Thanks in advance,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems encoding MP2

2003-07-30 Thread Miguel Blázquez
Håvard Wall wrote:
Andrew Farmer wrote:

At 29 July, 2003 Miguel Bl?zquez wrote:
[...]

Therefore, the distribution is not the problem. Any ideas? Is it posible
that the tools 'toolame' or 'mp2enc' had been compiled with some
parameter defined in /etc/make* and that parameter affects negatively?


No, make options won't affect a program's output like this. Is it
[...]

I'm not sure I agree. All theese compiler options _could_ produce bad code:
-ffast-math
-fno-math-errno
-funsafe-math-optimizations
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Hello,

After compiling a lot of times, I've could see the problem is not the 
toolame app, the problem is the standard mathematic library, libm. 
Toolame is dynamically linked with the libraries: libc and libm. If I 
change the libm-2.3.1.so with the same lib from another distribution, 
the tool works fine and the generated file MP2 sounds fine, too. It's 
possible when the glibc was compiled (libm belongs the glibc packet), 
something was bad and the compilation of the libm library failed. Now, 
I'll copy the libm library from stage[23]*tar.bz2. Thanks for all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems encoding MP2

2003-07-30 Thread Miguel Blázquez
Andrew Farmer wrote:
you aren't using in the Gentoo version? Also, why exactly do you need
layer-2 audio?
Hello,

I need layer-2 audio in order to make a Video CD. You can see in the VCD 
specification:

Audio: 224 kbit/sec MPEG-1 Layer2

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync taking forever

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Bering wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:32:59 -0400
daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On July 29, 2003 01:50 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:

Emerge sync was never really 'quick' as such.  A lot of files
(~5) files get updated each time including cache during the
'hang' that you mention.  


so what're the chances that portage might be switching to a more
robust database-driven setup?


My $.02.  I don't need to sync hourly, so it's no big deal.  I'd rather
see time spent on making portage more robust.
Agreed! Just put emerge sync in a cron job or during the night, and 
you'll never know how much time it took ;) Like you did with emerge 
xfree... and kde.. gnome, etc..
Yes.  That is what I do.  Here's what I use in /etc/cron.daily/sync.cron.


#!/bin/bash
DIR=/tmp/portage
LOG=$DIR/updates.log
HOST=$(hostname | awk -F. '{print $1}')
SUBJECT=$HOST package updates
EMAIL=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
emerge sync  /dev/null
emerge -Duvlp world  $LOG
mail -s $SUBJECT $EMAIL  $LOG

For this you need SMTP started and mailx emerged.  Then even if you have 
fixpackages in features it doesn't matter how long it takes.

To be honest, I think mysql to run portage is excessive.  Portage at the 
moment is quite lightweight and works well with simple text files. 
Adding database administration is just going to make debugging and 
maintenance more complex and tiresome.  Also, other portage todo's may 
take priority like reverse dependencies and sticky settings from what I 
hear.

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[gentoo-user] Problems with IDE CDRecorder in external USB Case

2003-07-30 Thread Florian Dittmer

Hi,

I got an external USB Case to connect IDE Devices via USB.

I wanted to install by IDE DVD/CD-Recorder into this case.

It is registered sucessfully, /proc/scsi/scsi says:

Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: TOSHIBA  Model: DVD-ROM SD-R5002 Rev: 1M31
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02


But it doesnt really work :(

When I try to write a cdr with cdrecord, I get input/output errors.

Under MSWindows it seems to work, but that doesnt help 

PS. It works fine when connected via IDE of the mainboard.

Any help would be great ;)

Florian



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Re: [gentoo-user] portage group issues

2003-07-30 Thread Tom Knight-Markiegi
Hi Bryce

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:56:36PM -0700, Bryce wrote:
 Hey all, my normal user account is in the portage group( i even checked 
 /etc/group), however, whenever i use my account to do some emergeing ( short 
 of compiling) i always get that not part of portage group error. Has anyone 
 else seen or dealt with this problem??

Have you logged out and back in again? I've noticed that you have to do this
before any changes to /etc/groups take effect. If you type:

groups

this will tell you what groups you are in, if this doesn't match up to
/etc/groups try logging in again.

Tom

 
 thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread William Kenworthy
Doesnt help much.  I have a 3 licence and the 3 series is fine: I cant
justify the cost of upgrading to 4 - getting too expensive for the use I
get out of it.

I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware install
had been working fine for months.  It was sometime during the recent
flood of upgrades that this occurred.

BillK

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 12:45, Jens Mayer wrote:
 * On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 21:04:56 -0700, FX wrote:
 
  I ran into the same prob.  i had  vmware  3.0 and now its updated to 4.0
  and the s/n  does not work.   hmm
 
 http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_upgrade_faqs.html
 https://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/buy_wkst_upgrade.jsp
 
 Regards,
 Jens
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[gentoo-user] Latest portage version of the Gimp

2003-07-30 Thread Christian Aust
Hi all,

obviously the latest development version of the GIMP is 1.3.17:

de-christiana root # ll /usr/portage/media-gfx/gimp/
insgesamt 45
-rw-r--r--1 root root 7422 2003-07-25 22:39 ChangeLog
drwxr-xr-x2 root root  536 2003-07-25 22:39 files
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4080 2003-06-07 19:20 gimp-1.2.3-r2.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4717 2003-03-10 13:01 gimp-1.2.3-r3.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3091 2003-07-20 01:06 gimp-1.2.4.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 3200 2003-07-20 01:06 gimp-1.2.5.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2425 2003-07-25 22:39 gimp-1.3.16.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 2406 2003-07-25 22:20 gimp-1.3.17.ebuild
-rw-r--r--1 root root 1284 2003-07-25 22:39 Manifest
-rw-r--r--1 root root  158 2003-07-04 01:54 metadata.xml

However, when I try to switch my current 1.2.4 version over to the
latest'n'greates, it would only give me version 1.2.5;

de-christiana root # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv gimp
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] media-gfx/gimp-1.2.5 [1.2.4] +python +nls +gnome +aalib +perl -doc 
+jpeg +png +tiff -doc

Can somebody please shed some light on why this is so? How can I upgrade
my GIMP without specifying the ebuild directly? Best regards,

-  Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread Ming-Che Lee
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Hi!

On Wednesday, 30. July 2003 13:08 William Kenworthy wrote:

 I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware
 install had been working fine for months.  It was sometime during
 the recent flood of upgrades that this occurred.

Have you recently upgraded to glibc-2.3.2-r1? Downgrade it to 
glibc-2.3.1-r4 should make vmware working again. But be careful if 
you have/want to downgrade python as well - it might break emerge.

Best regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync taking forever

2003-07-30 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Bering,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003, 01:51:04:

 Agreed! Just put emerge sync in a cron job or during the night, and
 you'll never know how much time it took ;)
I will know, because it will still be running at the morning. With my
old laptop (Pentium-75), I sleep less than an emerge sync takes,
which is about 10 hours (!).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nailing a particular version locally

2003-07-30 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Jonathan,

Nachricht vom Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003, 02:48:25:

 Hi,

 I was wondering, is there a way of nailing particular versions on my
 system(s), sort of like a local /etc/make.profile/packages, that
 won't get overwritten everytime I emerge sync ... I was guessing I
 could just copy /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4 somewhere and
 point /etc/make.profile at that, but then I'd have to update that
 manually. I guess I'm hoping there's some sort of overlay feature in
 portage for the _contents_ packages file.

 Cheers.
 Jonathan.

With latest portage (2.0.48-r5 or something) you can use
/etc/portage/packages.mask (you will have to create it).
For Example, you could put
net-www/apache-2.*
there, if you want to keep apache1. Its not documented, and I don't
know if it is stable but it works for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread Urs Joss
Hi Bill

On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:12, William Kenworthy wrote:
 [...]
 Trying to run vmware (from a terminal)  brings up the profile
 selection window, but selecting any profiles causes the error below:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] cur $ /opt/vmware/bin/vmware
 XIO:  fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0.0
   after 3072 requests (3071 known processed) with 5 events
 remaining.
 [...]

I had similar issues but did not track it down to _the_ solution (it 
worked again after some fiddling around... I had neither time nor 
curiosity enough to inspect it in more detail). I believe it has to do 
with some issues in the ~/.vmware folder.

Cheap shot (it might have been it): 
$ mv ~/.vmware ~/.vmware.old
$ emerge vmware-workstation

I don't remember what step re-creates the ~/.vmware directory 
(vmware-config.pl??). Anyhow, move the relevante files back to the new 
folder after it re-appears (especially the license file).

If that does not do it, try unmerging the package and then erasing all 
vmware related folders from your system - that's what I did. I believe, 
emerge informs you about the relevant places after unmerging.

HTH
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[gentoo-user] emerge history?

2003-07-30 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Does my machine keep an emerge history anywhere? I have had a strange
thing happen with my desktop (running fluxbox a Big Gentoo G appeared
this morning that wasn't there yesterday) and I'd like to understand
why.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge history?

2003-07-30 Thread Jan Kuipers
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On Wednesday 30 July 2003 14:19, Mark Knecht wrote:
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Does my machine keep an emerge history anywhere?

whereever PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/emerge points are your answers.

hth, jan
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jim Doherty
Leonid Podolny wrote:

It would be terribly nice, if people tried to do the regular rtfm, mailing 
list archives and forum search routine, before sending the problem to the 
list. It's about fourth or fifth time this issue is brought up at the list 
during only last week.
 L.
 

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on 
the Mailing Lists webpage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Latest portage version of the Gimp

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Truelsen
On 30 Jul 2003 13:34:40 +0200
Christian Aust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, when I try to switch my current 1.2.4 version over to the
 latest'n'greates, it would only give me version 1.2.5;
 
snip

 Can somebody please shed some light on why this is so? How can I
 upgrade my GIMP without specifying the ebuild directly? Best regards,
 
Anything 1.3 and above is hard masked in the package.mask file. The only
way that you will be able to get around this is to comment out the 
=media-gfx/gimp-1.3
line in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask file.

You can also try adding the line to /etc/portage/package.unmask file and
see if it supercedes the one in /usr/portage/profiles. I am not sure how
that is checked, so that might work for you as well.

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[gentoo-user] Re: vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* William Kenworthy (2003-07-30 13:08 +0200)
 Doesnt help much.  I have a 3 licence and the 3 series is fine: I cant
 justify the cost of upgrading to 4 - getting too expensive for the use I
 get out of it.

 I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware install
 had been working fine for months.  It was sometime during the recent
 flood of upgrades that this occurred.

CONFIG_PROTECT=-* emerge --noconfmem vmware-workstation; vmware-config.pl

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
 So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
 the Mailing Lists webpage.

 Jim Dohery

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jim Doherty
Leonid Podolny wrote:

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
the Mailing Lists webpage.
Jim Dohery

   

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 

Thanks!It strikes me that if the information was easily found on the 
website alot of the stupid duplicate questions would disappear from the 
list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Round 2: modules/kernel problem No modules work -- i8k

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Tindale
I don't really know how the whole module thing works, but I've
encountered similar situations where modules can't be found
because things are not looking where I thought they should,
and basically because I don't understand much of it.

As a result of some chats on #gentoo, I've come up with this 
approach:

do a 'modprobe -l  my-modules.txt' which seems to result in
a list of modules, each with a fully absolute path, and each 
with a '.o' or whatever ending.

By hand, I've gone through each line and deleted the stuff
that isn't the module name, and the bits after the dot.

I'm sure there's a programming way of doing it, but frankly 
this was quicker than spending another twenty years trying
to learn programming, which hasn't worked out so far.

Then I change the result into /etc/modules.autoload and all
is happy. It'd be nice if there were an automated way of 
arriving at modules.autoload from the output of modprobe -l 
and simply allowing the user to comment out the bits
not needed (or in my case, it's all needed or I wouldn't
have made the kernel that way in the first place).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap not loading

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Tindale
On 18:46 Tue 29 Jul , Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 
 I solved it by putting full path minus extension in KEYMAPS= and 
 CONSOLEFONT= within /etc/rc.conf.

I also. While I was at it, I changed the consolefont to the font 
simply called 't'. I love it. It's here to stay.

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[gentoo-user] winex dont run

2003-07-30 Thread Fellipe Weno



All

I merged winex and install him with success, but 
ifi try run any appwith and using the winexit doesn´t 
works 
for example:notepad :O

my system have been compiled with the flag 
march=pc-i686, but winex dont use this flag to 
compile it selt.
If try run winex,it´s run and show your 
options

anyone know what happen ?

Banza


[gentoo-user] livecd consolefont and splash image

2003-07-30 Thread Alberto.
Hi everyone,

I would like to set the same consolefont of the livecd (I like it very 
much ;-) ). Someone of you knows how to do it ? There's a way, also, to 
set a splash image ?

Thanks in advance,
Albe'.
P.S.: I'm a newbie, so, let me understand what you could say ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread William Kenworthy
This looks like it.  I can LD_PRELOAD an old libc.so.6 and vmware works
- but I can only do this as root - I have found something about suid
programs only being able to preload as root. Does anyone know a
workaround for that?

Downgrading the glibc is something I would rather avoid at the moment. 
Do you have any more info about this - e.g., will it be fixed or has
vmware 3 reached its useby date?

BillK

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 On Wednesday, 30. July 2003 13:08 William Kenworthy wrote:
 
  I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware
  install had been working fine for months.  It was sometime during
  the recent flood of upgrades that this occurred.
 
 Have you recently upgraded to glibc-2.3.2-r1? Downgrade it to 
 glibc-2.3.1-r4 should make vmware working again. But be careful if 
 you have/want to downgrade python as well - it might break emerge.
 
 Best regards,
 
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[gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Hello

In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added:

=sys-devel/gcc-3.3

However, gcc 3.3 is still masked.  How to unmask it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Sebastian Hungerecker
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:27:29 +0200
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 Never seen this ^ thingy mentioned anywhere.
Sorry, I was wrong: It's - not ^

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Christian Aust
Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:14:29 +0100:

In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added:

=sys-devel/gcc-3.3

However, gcc 3.3 is still masked.  How to unmask it?
*sigh* masking really seems to be an all-time-classic: Please see bug #25041, from where 
I've quoted this:

package.unmask only works for packages masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask,
not for ~arch masking.
I'd really like to see the portage guys fix this odd behaviour.  Best regards,

-  Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying Gnus

2003-07-30 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
Anupam, Jean thank you very much for helping!
I hope, I'll love gnus :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
Where is APIC in the kernel?  I can't seem to find it anywhere?

Thanks,
Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 03:20, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 I use it with no problems at all.
 Two things:
 1) Post the /var/log/messages excerpt. Maybe there is something useful 
 there.
 2) I had the similar problem with another card (not 3COM). I solved it by 
 disabling the APIC support at the kernel.
 Regards, L.
 
 On Wed, 29 Jul 2003, Jason Giangrande wrote:
 
  This seems a bit odd. I'm installing gentoo on a box that has a 3Com
  3cSOHO100-TX network card. The card works fine when booting off the CD
  and seems to use the 3c59x module, but after the install, using the same
  module, the card does not work. I've double checked the kernel and all
  settings seem correct. I've checked the /etc/conf.d/net file and
  everything is fine there (the system is setup to use DHCP but it also
  doesn't work when I give it a static IP either). The module loads during
  boot up but the system hangs when it gets to the network card , and
  finally times out. Has anyone had any success using one of these cards
  before? I have two systems running perfectly using the 3Com 3c905C-TX
  cards with exactly the same settings. Anyone have any ideas as to what
  might be wrong?
  
  Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Ole
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS~x86 emerge sys-devel/gcc-3.3


On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 17:14, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Hello
 
 In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added:
 
  =sys-devel/gcc-3.3
 
 However, gcc 3.3 is still masked.  How to unmask it?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread Ming-Che Lee
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Hi!

On Wednesday, 30. July 2003 16:28 William Kenworthy wrote:

 Downgrading the glibc is something I would rather avoid at the
 moment. Do you have any more info about this - e.g., will it be
 fixed or has vmware 3 reached its useby date?

Unfortunately I don't have more info about it. But maybe you want to 
visit http://forums.gentoo.org and search for vmware and glibc. I 
found the downgrading tip there.

Best regards,

Ming-Che

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Shawn
No, you would have to replace the
KEYWORDS=-*
with
KEYWORDS=~86
...and then do that.

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:59, Ole wrote:
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS~x86 emerge sys-devel/gcc-3.3


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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Sebastian Hungerecker (2003-07-30 17:17 +0200)
 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:27:29 +0200
 Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
Disabling APIC doesn't work either.

The only error messages in the log are:

[dhcpcd] timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response
[rc-scripts] failed to bring eth0 up

That's all I get.  Any other ideas?

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 03:20, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 I use it with no problems at all.
 Two things:
 1) Post the /var/log/messages excerpt. Maybe there is something useful 
 there.
 2) I had the similar problem with another card (not 3COM). I solved it by 
 disabling the APIC support at the kernel.
 Regards, L.
 
 On Wed, 29 Jul 2003, Jason Giangrande wrote:
 
  This seems a bit odd. I'm installing gentoo on a box that has a 3Com
  3cSOHO100-TX network card. The card works fine when booting off the CD
  and seems to use the 3c59x module, but after the install, using the same
  module, the card does not work. I've double checked the kernel and all
  settings seem correct. I've checked the /etc/conf.d/net file and
  everything is fine there (the system is setup to use DHCP but it also
  doesn't work when I give it a static IP either). The module loads during
  boot up but the system hangs when it gets to the network card , and
  finally times out. Has anyone had any success using one of these cards
  before? I have two systems running perfectly using the 3Com 3c905C-TX
  cards with exactly the same settings. Anyone have any ideas as to what
  might be wrong?
  
  Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Ole wrote:
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS~x86 emerge sys-devel/gcc-3.3
$ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge sys-devel/gcc-3.3 -vp

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy 
sys-devel/gcc-3.3.

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

$ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge sys-devel/gcc -p

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.2.3-r2
So it is quite obvious that gcc 3.3 is not in ~x86.

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage group issues

2003-07-30 Thread Bryce
Thanks for the responce Tom; however this is a long standing problem. Since i 
put in a new harddrive and rebuilt gentoo. I didn't have this problem before( 
on the old harddrive) and i find it quite annoying now.

Could it maybe be that my account is in a group that somehow writes over being 
in the portage group? Or maybe i just belong to too many groups.

Could some people please send me their output for groups so i have an idea 
of where mine should be??? I realize its an odd request, but private emails 
are welcomed ;).

bryce


On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:26 am, Tom Knight-Markiegi wrote:
 Hi Bryce

 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:56:36PM -0700, Bryce wrote:
  Hey all, my normal user account is in the portage group( i even checked
  /etc/group), however, whenever i use my account to do some emergeing (
  short of compiling) i always get that not part of portage group error.
  Has anyone else seen or dealt with this problem??

 Have you logged out and back in again? I've noticed that you have to do
 this before any changes to /etc/groups take effect. If you type:

 groups

 this will tell you what groups you are in, if this doesn't match up to
 /etc/groups try logging in again.

 Tom

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[gentoo-user] CoreUtils - Emerge Problem

2003-07-30 Thread Elliott, Andrew
Anyone have any idea what is causing this?  (~x86)


Making all in wc
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests/wc'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests/wc'
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
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Re: [gentoo-user] CoreUtils - Emerge Problem

2003-07-30 Thread Brandon Low
This is a me too, anyone else seen this, I took a quick peak at the
ebuild and didn't see any solution apparent...

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On Wed, 07/30/03 at 13:41:52 -0400, Elliott, Andrew wrote:
 Anyone have any idea what is causing this?  (~x86)
 
 
 Making all in wc
 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests/wc'
 make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests/wc'
 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
 make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0/tests'
 make[2]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/coreutils-5.0-r1/work/coreutils-5.0'
 --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY
 ---
 LOG FILE = /tmp/sandbox-coreutils-5.0-r1-10346.log
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
Hello

In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added:

 =sys-devel/gcc-3.3

However, gcc 3.3 is still masked.  How to unmask it?

With regards

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I finally copied gcc-3.3-r1.ebuild to portage overlay and changed 
keywords from -* to ~x86.  Then emerge -Duvp world listed gcc as an 
update.  Thanks for all help!

[ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3-r1 [3.2.3-r2] -static -nls -bootstrap 
+java -build +X

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with IDE CDRecorder in external USB Case

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Florian Dittmer wrote:
Hi,

I got an external USB Case to connect IDE Devices via USB.

I wanted to install by IDE DVD/CD-Recorder into this case.

It is registered sucessfully, /proc/scsi/scsi says:

Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: TOSHIBA  Model: DVD-ROM SD-R5002 Rev: 1M31
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Umm.  I'm not really sure about USB interactions with SCSI.  However, 
you might want to check and paste output of

- cdrecord --scanbus
- cdrecord -dev=help
- cdrecord -driver=help
I'd recheck all USB kernel options too.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] winex dont run

2003-07-30 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 18:43, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Fellipe Weno wrote:
  All
 
  I merged winex and install him with success, but if i try run any
  app with and using the winex it doesnt works
  for example: notepad :O
 
  my system have been compiled with the flag march=pc-i686, but winex
  dont use this flag to compile it selt.
  If try run winex, its run and show your options
 
  anyone know what happen ?
 
  Banza

 Why, oh why, are you lusting after notepad on Linux?

 Paste the output of 'emerge info' also.

A lot of stuff that used to need winex to run now runs OK with wine.

Winex is no longer in portage anyway.  

An interesting link about why we shouldn't whine about winex is here: 
http://timedoctor.org/boycott_winex.php

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using syslog-ng..?

2003-07-30 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Alan wrote:

  - Why isn't syslog-ng supplied with a suitable cron script to tidy my
logfiles..?

 This would be handled by logrotate, but you still have to come up with
 the config files for it yourself :\  I managed to grab a bunch off my
 debian box, but it'd be nice to see logrotate as a USE variable and
 ebuilds to throw a script in /etc/logrotate.d/ if they see it for things
 like postfix, syslog*, apache, etc.

syslog-ng is much more configurable than sysklogd.  You can, for example,
change the filenames of all the log files to your favorite animals, if you
so desired.  That's in addition to being able to split up what would
normally be one logfile into several, or combine a few, or just discard
certain messages.  I'm sure it's possible to have a default logrotate.d
file for the default syslog-ng file.  This would likely require additional
files to be downloaded from gentoo.  On the other hand, I seem to recall
the default syslog-ng.conf file not having very much in it.

At any rate, you get much greater control at the cost of greater
maintenance.  Once you've figured out exactly what you want in your
syslog-ng.conf file, though, it's fairly easy to write up a syslog-ng file
for logrotate.  I just choose all the options I want to apply to (almost)
all log files, then write up each individual file with any exceptions (ie,
daily instead of weekly).

postfix itself doesn't need a logrotate.d entry.  It logs to syslog, using
mail facility, and ending up (by default) in mail.log.

Don't forget to log kernel messages.  The syslog-ng documentation explains
how to do that (I don't recall offhand, and I'm not on my computer).

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Re: [gentoo-user] winex dont run

2003-07-30 Thread Fellipe Weno
i try run Diablo II inside linux but its dont work
in this moment i cant paste emerge result because i in office
but only yellow * is
one file in /etc need to update

- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] winex dont run


Fellipe Weno wrote:
 All

 I merged winex and install him with success, but if i try run any
 app with and using the winex it doesn´t works
 for example: notepad :O

 my system have been compiled with the flag march=pc-i686, but winex dont
 use this flag to compile it selt.
 If try run winex, it´s run and show your options

 anyone know what happen ?

 Banza

Why, oh why, are you lusting after notepad on Linux?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in LiveCD
(boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
/mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving everything u
can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options, weird
hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general setup'
and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added them
one by one. Took me two days.

- Original Message - 
From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems



  You need to disable both apic and io-apic.However, if it doesn't solve
  the problem, compile it back in, this option is really neat.

 Both were not enabled the last time or two I compiled the kernel, so
 since they aren't the problem, I will compile them back in.  I also
 tried disabling grsecurity to make sure that wasn't the problem, but
 that didn't work either.

  This means that the problem is clearly either at the dhcp server (do
  you have other boxes that use the sam dhcp server?) or it is some
  physical problem, like the ethernet cable fell off from the switch or
  something like this.

 I do have other systems that use the same DHCP server and they all work
 fine (even other Gentoo systems).  It's not a cable or switch problem
 since the system works just fine if I boot off of the Gentoo install
 CD.  When I boot off the CD, the system detects the NIC and DHCP gets an
 ip address and everything is fine, yet the system refuses to work with
 the kernel (gentoo-sources) that I've compiled.  This is really
 frustrating.

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RE: [gentoo-user] CoreUtils - Emerge Problem

2003-07-30 Thread Elliott, Andrew
Thanks, Donnie, 

'FEATURE=-sandbox emerge coreutils' worked like a charm.

-andrew

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Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 1:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CoreUtils - Emerge Problem


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On Wednesday 30 July 2003 12:41, Elliott, Andrew wrote:
 Anyone have any idea what is causing this?  (~x86)
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 --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY
 ---
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 unlink:

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http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21766 may help.
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[gentoo-user] Testing memory

2003-07-30 Thread Jussi Sirpoma
Hi All,

Does any of the gentoo packages contain tools or other ways to test the 
memory. I have had problems compiling some of the larger packages (bug 
20600) and I would like to verify that at least the memory is working as 
it's supposed to.

Best Regards,
Jussi Sirpoma
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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing memory

2003-07-30 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 21:53, Jussi Sirpoma wrote:
 Hi All,

 Does any of the gentoo packages contain tools or other ways to test
 the memory. I have had problems compiling some of the larger packages
 (bug 20600) and I would like to verify that at least the memory is
 working as it's supposed to.

emerge sys-apps/memtest86

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in LiveCD
(boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
/mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving everything u
can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options, weird
hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general setup'
and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added them
one by one. Took me two days.
- Original Message - 
From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems


 
  You need to disable both apic and io-apic.However, if it doesn't solve
  the problem, compile it back in, this option is really neat.
 
 Both were not enabled the last time or two I compiled the kernel, so
 since they aren't the problem, I will compile them back in.  I also
 tried disabling grsecurity to make sure that wasn't the problem, but
 that didn't work either.
 
  This means that the problem is clearly either at the dhcp server (do
  you have other boxes that use the sam dhcp server?) or it is some
  physical problem, like the ethernet cable fell off from the switch or
  something like this.
 
 I do have other systems that use the same DHCP server and they all work
 fine (even other Gentoo systems).  It's not a cable or switch problem
 since the system works just fine if I boot off of the Gentoo install
 CD.  When I boot off the CD, the system detects the NIC and DHCP gets an
 ip address and everything is fine, yet the system refuses to work with
 the kernel (gentoo-sources) that I've compiled.  This is really
 frustrating.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage group issues

2003-07-30 Thread bryn
Bryce wrote:
Thanks for the responce Tom; however this is a long standing problem. Since i 
put in a new harddrive and rebuilt gentoo. I didn't have this problem before( 
on the old harddrive) and i find it quite annoying now.

Could it maybe be that my account is in a group that somehow writes over being 
in the portage group? Or maybe i just belong to too many groups.

Could some people please send me their output for groups so i have an idea 
of where mine should be??? I realize its an odd request, but private emails 
are welcomed ;).

bryce

On Wednesday 30 July 2003 04:26 am, Tom Knight-Markiegi wrote:

Hi Bryce

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:56:36PM -0700, Bryce wrote:

Hey all, my normal user account is in the portage group( i even checked
/etc/group), however, whenever i use my account to do some emergeing (
short of compiling) i always get that not part of portage group error.
Has anyone else seen or dealt with this problem??
Have you logged out and back in again? I've noticed that you have to do
this before any changes to /etc/groups take effect. If you type:
groups

this will tell you what groups you are in, if this doesn't match up to
/etc/groups try logging in again.
Tom


thanks,
bryce
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Here's the output of groups on my box, and also the portage line from 
my group file:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ groups
users wheel slocate portage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $ grep portage /etc/group
portage::250:portage,bryn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bryn $
What do you get?

Bryn

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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing memory

2003-07-30 Thread Tom Wesley
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 21:58, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 Jul 2003 21:53, Jussi Sirpoma wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Does any of the gentoo packages contain tools or other ways to test
  the memory. I have had problems compiling some of the larger packages
  (bug 20600) and I would like to verify that at least the memory is
  working as it's supposed to.

 emerge sys-apps/memtest86

 Peter

you can even enter memtest86 from the Gentoo install cd or a Knoppix disk.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Convert ext3 to reiserfs

2003-07-30 Thread Paul K. Dickson
I run reiserfs on my laptop and have for over a year.  I suspend every
day, and on monday, my laptop is dead because I never plugged it in/used
it.  Thats every weekend this past year plus some.  Monday morning I
power up, every thing is peachy.  Just for shits and giggles I ran
reiserfsck on the fs from the gentoo cd.  no problems found anywhere. 
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it mr. ext3 man;)

Paul

On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 16:37, Harald Arnesen wrote:
 Norberto BENSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Arnold Krille wrote:
  From my personal experience: ext3 is _much_ better than reiserfs!
 
  Two words: DON'T START (a flame war) :-)
 
  Everybody knows reiserfs IS way better than anything else! :-)
 
 Except when your machine crashes, and you lose a few directories. That
 has never happened to me with ext3. Now I try xfs on my laptop.


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Re: [gentoo-user] winex dont run

2003-07-30 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Fellipe Weno wrote:
i try run Diablo II inside linux but its dont work
It /should/ work.  It got a 5/5 rating on transgaming.

Look here:

http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
Well, I compiled the kernel like you said by grabbing the /proc/config
settings while booting from the CD.  I compiled that kernel, but the
network still fails to start. :-(  Next I am removing anything that I
believe is not required to boot, and see if that works.  If not, then I
don't see any other choice but to abandon Gentoo on this system.

Thanks for trying, Leonid.  I appreciate it.

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in LiveCD
 (boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
 /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving everything u
 can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options, weird
 hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
 When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
 leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general setup'
 and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added them
 one by one. Took me two days.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing memory

2003-07-30 Thread Jussi Sirpoma
On 30.7.2003 23:53 Jussi Sirpoma wrote:

Hi All,

Does any of the gentoo packages contain tools or other ways to test the 
memory. I have had problems compiling some of the larger packages (bug 
20600) and I would like to verify that at least the memory is working as 
it's supposed to.
Thanks to all. The memtest86 was just what I needed. The memory was not 
the problem but running the test caused the cpu temperature to rice to 
~60 C (140 F) after only 7 minutes of testing. So it seems that my 
problem is overheating.

Jussi Sirpoma



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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
After compiling a bare minimum kernel the 3c59x module will not load. 
When I do a modprobe 3c59x I get this error.

unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy

I have no idea what that means.  Anyone have any ideas?

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in LiveCD
 (boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
 /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving everything u
 can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options, weird
 hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
 When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
 leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general setup'
 and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added them
 one by one. Took me two days.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
Set CONFIG_MODVERSIONS to 'no'
If it helps, be sure to rm -rf /lib/modules/linux-2.4.20 before you do
make modules_install and recheck.
- Original Message - 
From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems


 After compiling a bare minimum kernel the 3c59x module will not load.
 When I do a modprobe 3c59x I get this error.

 unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy

 I have no idea what that means.  Anyone have any ideas?

 Jason

 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
  I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in
LiveCD
  (boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
  /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving
everything u
  can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options,
weird
  hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
  When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
  leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general
setup'
  and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added
them
  one by one. Took me two days.



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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Alex
Why not try a different nic?
instead of beating yourself, unless you like that sort of stuff  ;-)


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 network still fails to start. :-(  Next I am removing anything that I
 believe is not required to boot, and see if that works.  If not, then I
 don't see any other choice but to abandon Gentoo on this system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
SMP support is turned off.  Do you happen to know what section
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is under when using menuconfig?

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 17:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 Or,as Google says, it may be the SMP support turned on.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems
 
 
  After compiling a bare minimum kernel the 3c59x module will not load.
  When I do a modprobe 3c59x I get this error.
 
  unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
 
  I have no idea what that means.  Anyone have any ideas?
 
  Jason
 
  On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
   I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as in
 LiveCD
   (boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
   /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving
 everything u
   can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options,
 weird
   hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
   When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved with
   leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general
 setup'
   and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then added
 them
   one by one. Took me two days.
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage group issues

2003-07-30 Thread Tom Knight-Markiegi
Hi

snip

 Could it maybe be that my account is in a group that somehow writes over being 
 in the portage group? Or maybe i just belong to too many groups.

Not sure, I doubt you could be in too many groups (if you can be) things
like that usually have limits set to silly things like 32768.

 
 Could some people please send me their output for groups so i have an idea 
 of where mine should be??? I realize its an odd request, but private emails 
 are welcomed ;).

23:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom $ groups 
users wheel audio games portage
23:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom $ grep tom /etc/group
wheel::10:root,tom,bob
audio::18:tom,bob
games::35:tom
users::100:games,tom,bob
portage::250:portage,tom,bob
23:34 [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom $ 

The output from `groups` should be the same as what's in /etc/group

HTH 

Tom

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
No good, it works. :)

- Original Message - 
From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:07 AM
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card
Problems


 Why not try a different nic?
 instead of beating yourself, unless you like that sort of stuff  ;-)


 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  network still fails to start. :-(  Next I am removing anything that I
  believe is not required to boot, and see if that works.  If not, then I
  don't see any other choice but to abandon Gentoo on this system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems

2003-07-30 Thread Leonid Podolny
Loadable module support - Set version information bla-bla. I also send you
my .config file separately.


- Original Message - 
From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems


 SMP support is turned off.  Do you happen to know what section
 CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is under when using menuconfig?

 Jason

 On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 17:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
  Or,as Google says, it may be the SMP support turned on.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card Problems
 
 
   After compiling a bare minimum kernel the 3c59x module will not load.
   When I do a modprobe 3c59x I get this error.
  
   unresolved symbol _mmx_memcpy
  
   I have no idea what that means.  Anyone have any ideas?
  
   Jason
  
   On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 15:55, Leonid Podolny wrote:
I'm running out of ideas :( I'd compile exactly the same kernel as
in
  LiveCD
(boot from LiveCD, mount the disk, cp /proc/config
/mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config, make oldconfig with leaving
  everything u
can out, especially grsecurity, iptables, advanced network options,
  weird
hardware support etc., u know the drill :) )
When I had the very same problem with SiS900 card, the one i solved
with
leaving out the apic support, I've removed every option at 'general
  setup'
and 'prosessor type' that was not crucial for the boot and then
added
  them
one by one. Took me two days.
  
  
  
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[gentoo-user] i810 dri , bizarre display

2003-07-30 Thread Fernando Henrique
I have some problems with the i810 video card (on-board), the processed
3D images with dri appear distorted... Some idea? 

See screenshot at :

http://www.linux.ime.usp.br/~slave/gentoo.jpg


PIII 666 -- RAM 64Mb


Running gentoo with :

xfree-4.3.0-r2
xfree-drm-4.3.0-r2 
xfs-sources 2.4.20

make.conf :


USE=X -spell -java -qt -esd -arts -kde -svga -aalib gtk gnome -alsa

CHOST=i586-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O3 -mcpu=pentium -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86

FEATURES=buildpkg


PS : RedHat/Mandrake/Suse works fine in this machine 

See Ya

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl emerge problems

2003-07-30 Thread collins
Leonid Podolny wrote:

So where is the mailing list archive?   I didn't see any link to it on
the Mailing Lists webpage.
Jim Dohery

   

From the quick search at the archives :)) I can see the similar thread at
23/06/2003.

http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.linux.gentoo.user
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 

It would be a really good idea (tm) to post this all too frequently 
asked question somewhere prominent on the gentoo website.

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Re: [gentoo-user] konquerror strange behaviour

2003-07-30 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2003 04:26, Alberto Bert wrote:
 Hi all,

 I just re-configured the gentoo-network for a dinamic IP network.
 It was some time that I didn't emerge anything, so I checked what's
 new and I installed libsdtc++ gcc and glibc

 while installing glibc konquerror started to don't work, it cannot
 reach any host:

 An error occured while loading http://www.gentoo.org:

 Unknown host www.gentoo.org

 for any site.

Might there be wrong IP addresses s for the nameserver(s) in 
/etc/resolv.conf ?

 Note that mozilla is ok.

That's strange.

Karl-Heinz
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Re: [gentoo-user] winex dont run

2003-07-30 Thread collins
Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:

Fellipe Weno wrote:

All
 
I merged winex and install him with success, but if i try run any app 
with and using the winex it doesn´t works for example: notepad :O


Why, oh why, are you lusting after notepad on Linux?

If it's only notepad you lust after, google for tknotepad (a simple 
tk/tcl clone of notepad).  I love it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network CardProblems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
Alex,

Unfortunately, the only other free NICs I have are the exact same
models.

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 18:07, Alex wrote:
 Why not try a different nic?
 instead of beating yourself, unless you like that sort of stuff  ;-)
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  network still fails to start. :-(  Next I am removing anything that I
  believe is not required to boot, and see if that works.  If not, then I
  don't see any other choice but to abandon Gentoo on this system.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network CardProblems

2003-07-30 Thread Jason Giangrande
Yeah well, if this last compile doesn't work I may have to go out and
buy another one.  *sigh*

Jason

On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:11, Leonid Podolny wrote:
 No good, it works. :)
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:07 AM
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-x86] Re: [gentoo-user] Network Card
 Problems
 
 
  Why not try a different nic?
  instead of beating yourself, unless you like that sort of stuff  ;-)
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   network still fails to start. :-(  Next I am removing anything that I
   believe is not required to boot, and see if that works.  If not, then I
   don't see any other choice but to abandon Gentoo on this system.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] CoreUtils - Emerge Problem

2003-07-30 Thread collins
Elliott, Andrew wrote:

Thanks, Donnie, 

'FEATURE=-sandbox emerge coreutils' worked like a charm.

 

I've never encountered this, but this situation comes up all the time.  
What is the real problem, and why can't it be fixed permanently?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using syslog-ng..?

2003-07-30 Thread Stroller
On 30/7/03 8:28 pm, Marshal Newrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Alan wrote:
 
 - Why isn't syslog-ng supplied with a suitable cron script to tidy my
   logfiles..?
 
 This would be handled by logrotate, but you still have to come up with
 the config files for it yourself :\  I managed to grab a bunch off my
 debian box, but it'd be nice to see logrotate as a USE variable and
 ebuilds to throw a script in /etc/logrotate.d/ if they see it for things
 like postfix, syslog*, apache, etc.
 
 syslog-ng is much more configurable than sysklogd.
 ...That's in addition to being able to split up what would
 normally be one logfile into several, or combine a few, or just discard
 certain messages.

It's wonderful. I have /var/log/ADSL-Router-firewall.log
/var/log/ADSL-Router-other.log  /var/log/HP-LaserJet-Printer.log

  I'm sure it's possible to have a default logrotate.d
 file for the default syslog-ng file.

I have to say I'm not really clear why I need logrotate for syslog-ng, when
I didn;t need it for sysklogd.

 ...  On the other hand, I seem to recall
 the default syslog-ng.conf file not having very much in it.

The default syslog-ng.conf file was indeed pretty lame. There's one in the
forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=57257highlight=syslogng
which is much better. If there are any devs reading this, I'd vote for that
to become the default.
 
 At any rate, you get much greater control at the cost of greater
 maintenance.  Once you've figured out exactly what you want in your
 syslog-ng.conf file, though, it's fairly easy to write up a syslog-ng file
 for logrotate.  I just choose all the options I want to apply to (almost)
 all log files, then write up each individual file with any exceptions (ie,
 daily instead of weekly).

Thanks. I'll take a proper look at it.

Stroller.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using syslog-ng..?

2003-07-30 Thread Stroller
On 30/7/03 3:45 am, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Why isn't syslog-ng supplied with a suitable cron script to tidy my
   logfiles..?
 
 This would be handled by logrotate, but you still have to come up with
 the config files for it yourself :\  I managed to grab a bunch off my
 debian box...

Would you have a copy you can post, please..?

TIA,

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-30 Thread Steven
The two things that seperate Mozilla from Konqueror:

1) Being able to get selective with images by setting only those
images originating from the server as viewable, and right clicking
on images to block all further images from that server.

2) The plugin for flash called click to play, which in effect disables
all flash objects by default, while giving you the option to click on the
ones you actually want to see!

The day that konqueror achieves these functions, I'll be so sold on
the speed so much, that I don't know what I'll do... ;-)

Of course, I'm not advocating you boycot the ads for sites that promote
open source software. ;-) By all means, click on them often as it helps
the cause!

On Monday 21 July 2003 10:46, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 On Monday 21 July 2003 19:32, Shane Hickey wrote:
  So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers. I'm
  running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.

 just an idea: Your longing a realy good browser might be a good reason to
   consider giving KDE a try.

 This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!

 Even if you don't look for anything 'fancy' you might still be interested
 using Konqueror: just because of its cappability to correctly display
 more HTML pages than most other browsers.

 Karl-Heinz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using syslog-ng..?

2003-07-30 Thread David Mallwitz
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 08:45 pm, Stroller wrote:
 On 30/7/03 3:45 am, Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Why isn't syslog-ng supplied with a suitable cron script to tidy
  my logfiles..?
 
  This would be handled by logrotate, but you still have to come up
  with the config files for it yourself :\  I managed to grab a bunch
  off my debian box...

 Would you have a copy you can post, please..?

 TIA,

 Stroller.

Here's a basic logrotate script:

compress

/var/log/*
{
rotate 5
size=800k
postrotate
killall -HUP syslog-ng
endscript
}

You will need to handle any /var/log subdirs, such as apache or mysql, 
individually as they will need their own postrotate functions.

Also, you might want to look into syslog-ng's macro expansion function. 
For instance, you can do this:

destination whatever {
file(/var/log/whatever/$HOST/$YEAR/$MONTH/$FULLDATE.log  owner
(root)   group(logs) perm(0640) dir_perm(0770) create_dirs(yes)
   };

...to come up with a different file for every host, every day - makes it 
easier to compress and archive the older files.

There are also ways to put your logs straight into an SQL database:

destination mysql  {
pipe(/tmp/mysql.pipe
template(INSERT INTO logs (host,facility,priority,level,tag,
  timestamp,program,msg) VALUES ('$HOST','$FACILITY',
  '$PRIORITY','$LEVEL','$TAG','$UNIXTIME','$PROGRAM',
  '$MSG');\n)
template-escape(yes));
};

...so that you can delete older logs with just a 'delete from' SQL 
query.

The syslog-ng mailing list archives are here: 
https://lists.balabit.hu/pipermail/syslog-ng/
and more useful info can be found at:
http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html

Best,
Dave


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Re: [gentoo-user] Good code editor (with colors) for X (no GTK or QT)

2003-07-30 Thread Steven
It's to anyone's advantage to learn both emacs and vi.

1) As mentioned, vi is on everything *n?x. If ever in a bind, vi will be there.
2) Emacs is incredibly easy and extensible. It is the proverbial kitchen sink,
and as also mentioned, the keybindings for cutting/pasting/navigating are
supported right from the bash command line. ;-)

On Tuesday 22 July 2003 16:26, Ronald Kuwawi wrote:
 one advantage of being able to use vi is it's usually available
 as a standard editor with default install on Linux distro, NetBSD,
 OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and other unixes  and does not need X to run it.
 so if somehow you can't run X, it's useful to be able to use vi

 Ronald

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  Why dont you want to use vim? You cant type? That's the only reason i
   can think of. Other than that... its power editing all the way.
  
  sory... i couldn't help myself :D
  
  Essien
 
  I can type just fine :).  i was just never a fan of vi.  Its nothing but
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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing..... (nothing to see here)

2003-07-30 Thread Steven
Well don't make us all suffer. Come on. Some people still pay by the bitrate
around here!

On Tuesday 22 July 2003 08:21, gerrynjr wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing..... (nothing to see here)

2003-07-30 Thread Chris van der Pennen




On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 11:13, Steven wrote:

Well don't make us all suffer. Come on. Some people still pay by the bitrate
around here!


What, so you contributed to it?




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[gentoo-user] OT: Good NFS for laptop?

2003-07-30 Thread Jens Mayer
Hi folks,

beeing tired of synchronizing configfiles, browser's bookmarks 
and several other folders between various boxes in my LAN I came 
up with the idea to store my homedirectory remotely on my fileserver 
(a quite powerful Debian Woody box, XFS filesystem, recent kernel).

So far, so good. If I had only desktops in my LAN, this wouldn't be 
much of a problem, perhaps Sun's NFS would be the choice (easy to set 
up, security concerns are not that important in my private LAN), or
Samba, as I have experience with both of those two filesystems.

But having a laptop I do pretty much work on I need something that
allows disconnected operation, that is: Caching the files accessed
while network is unavailable and even having some files cached 
sticky, like .dotfiles and similar stuff. This is important
so I can work with the laptop if I'm not at home.

After reconnection to the server, things should be synchronized again.

Filesystems that come in mind to offer that functionality are
Coda[1] and Intermezzo[2]. All in all they seem to be pretty
experimental, maybe Coda a bit less than Intermezzo. I'm
not really sure how intensely these FS are developed: Intermezzo's 
last News entry on the homepage is dated over a year ago. Some
folks on usenet say Coda is kinda dead since the developers
itself think it's overloaded with features. 

OpenAFS[3] seems to have some sort of disconnected operation
feature in it's TODO-list[4], but I haven't found much about
this.

I don't want to start a flamewar about NFS, AFS or other
network filesystems. If anyone here has some experience
with Coda or Intermezzo (or another NFS that could suit
my needs), I'd like to hear. Bad news and good news.

Mainly, there are two Gentoo Linux Clients I want to
serve. I also have some SGI Indigos running IRIX and
one NeXTstation running OpenSTEP, but I do not expect
them to run any actual NFS.

TIA,
Jens

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[2] http://www.inter-mezzo.org/
[3] http://www.openafs.org/
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware has stopped working

2003-07-30 Thread Jonathan Kelly
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:02:15 +0200
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 Hi!
 
 On Wednesday, 30. July 2003 13:08 William Kenworthy wrote:
 
  I am using ver 3, and on the initial failure, the same vmware
  install had been working fine for months.  It was sometime during
  the recent flood of upgrades that this occurred.
 
 Have you recently upgraded to glibc-2.3.2-r1? Downgrade it to 
 glibc-2.3.1-r4 should make vmware working again. But be careful if 
 you have/want to downgrade python as well - it might break emerge.

The universe is a strange place ... yesterday I tried to downgrade my
glibc and totally borked portage. I guess you have to recompile python
STRAIGHT after compiling glibc, though that is only a guess ... and what
other programs does it break?? Anyway, I just finished rebuilding from a
stage1 tarball and this is about the first thing I read in my email! If
only today was yesterday!

cheers,
Jonathan.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Clarifying meaning of x86 and ~x86

2003-07-30 Thread Jonathan Kelly
Hey Spider,

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:07:58 +0200
Spider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 begin  quote
 
  So is stable what the gentoo devs consider stable, or what the
  software package developers consider stable?
 
 This is decided on a case-to-case basis, And the goal of the developers
 is to provide as smooth updates as possible with as little disruption as
 possible.
 
   I point to
  gimp-print-4.3.18 which is a development version (4.2.something is the
  current stable) .
 
 However, since all packages do this a bit differently it is a floating
 thing.  (xcdroast only has alpha and beta release, where the alpha is
 more stable and 2 years younger than the last beta, and is the only one
 thats actually compatible-.  So, Alpha is stable? ;)
 

Yeah, of course. But I have to make a judgement about whether to do what
emerge -pu world is telling me. gimp-print is not xcdroast and has an
active stable and development release versions. When I go and have a
look at the 4.3.18 page it clearly states this is unstable, buyer
beware!

cheers,
Jono.

 
   I know this isn't really a critical thing in this
  instance (though I wouldn't like my printing to stop working), it's
  just I'm starting to try and take back control of what goes onto my
  systems. I think gentoo is great (tm) but it's a bit of a moving
  target and becomes Ahem, not so great (tm) when something breaks and
  I spend a day (or more) trying to find out what broke.
 
 This is what we try to get around and avoid. In cases where breakage
 has to happen  we try to work around it anyhow (gcc-config, multiple
 LIB, Block, revdep-rebuild )  and where that isn't possible we have to
 fall back to educating users into reading documentation (ever noticed
 that some packages tell you things about themselves? )
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to unmask gcc 3.3?

2003-07-30 Thread Jonathan Kelly
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:26:49 +0200
Christian Aust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 30 Jul 2003
 16:14:29 +0100:
 
  In /etc/portage/package.unmask I have added:
  
  =sys-devel/gcc-3.3
  
  However, gcc 3.3 is still masked.  How to unmask it?
 
 *sigh* masking really seems to be an all-time-classic: Please see bug
 #25041, from where 
 I've quoted this:
 
 package.unmask only works for packages masked in
 /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask, not for ~arch masking.

Actually, I think you've got this the wrong way around. I'm pretty sure
from my testing it only unmasks ~x86 masking. I can't get gcc-3.3 to
unmask using /etc/portage/package.mask and it's masked in
/etc/make.profile/packages. I *CAN* unmask gimp-1.3.17 using
/etc/portage/package.mask and it ISN'T masked in
/etc/make.profile/packages.

Cheers.
Jonathan.

 
 I'd really like to see the portage guys fix this odd behaviour.  Best
 regards,
 
 -  Christian
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Good NFS for laptop?

2003-07-30 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 31 July 2003 04:19, Jens Mayer wrote:
 But having a laptop I do pretty much work on I need something that
 allows disconnected operation, that is: Caching the files accessed
 while network is unavailable and even having some files cached
 sticky, like .dotfiles and similar stuff. This is important
 so I can work with the laptop if I'm not at home.

You may think of cvs or subversion to keep track of your files and changes...

Arnold

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