from:"Jason"

Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Can anyone tell me if they've got the madwifi-drivers working under 
 Gentoo (with a 2.6 kernel)? If so - where do our approaches differ? What 
 kernel options are actually required? Do I really need all the modules 
 I've got in my autoloading (I don't care about security - the only 

Bad move.  Exposing a single port to the internet is more than enough.  I
also only expose a few ports (including ssh) to the net.  My logs are
full of knucklehead script kiddies trying to get in through ssh.  At a
minimum, disallow root login, and listen on a port other than 22.  (At
least on the net-facing side).  Also, set AllowUsers to just yourself.

btw - all those log entries were when I was listening on port 22...

 service I'll expose over this interface will be SSH - the same one as I 
 expose to the internet at large)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper wrote:
 
 Bad move. Exposing a single port to the internet is more than enough. I
 
 also only expose a few ports (including ssh) to the net.  My logs are
 full of knucklehead script kiddies trying to get in through ssh.  At a
 minimum, disallow root login, and listen on a port other than 22.  (At
 least on the net-facing side).  Also, set AllowUsers to just yourself.
 
 btw - all those log entries were when I was listening on port 22...
  
 
 I understand your concerns - I had _exactly_ those concerns too - and 
 yes - I can see script kiddy evidence in my logs too.
 
 I've disabled remote root login - and in fact only one user can 
 authenticate via SSH - and that user can't do so using only a password.  

Yep, I do the same.

 I can't easily move to a non-standard port though (as I want to access 
 it from sites which only allow outbound connections to port 22 (don't 

Are you planning on providing https connections?  If not, most places
allow outbound port 80 and port 443 requests.  It wouldn't be hidden
from automated scans, but at least it would be the wrong scans.  :)

 ask me why!)) and in any case - I know I get port-scanned and security 
 through an obscure port number is likely to be as effective as a 
 chocolate tea-pot.  I suppose I could constrain the IP addresses of 

security through obscurity is only bad when it is the _only_ security.
However, the few hours it might buy you (on discovery of a new
vulnerability) against automated scans so you can shutdown/upgrade could
be a life-saver.  As long as it's understood that's all it's good for...

 hosts which can connect... but I'm not entirely sure that the trade-off 
 between usefulness to me and improved security makes that worthwhile...
 
 I realise I run the risk of being compromised if another exploit is 
 found in SSH - but my fingers are firmly crossed there... I'm trusting 
 for now that I can keep my keys safe and that there isn't a SSH 
 back-door... Time will tell I suppose.

A neat thing to remember is that in the event of a new vulnerability
being discovered, shutting down sshd _doesn't_ kill your current
session.  I've used that the last time the hole was discovered in
openssh.  

 I understand that I need a stringent firewall in order to make sure my 
 wireless connection can only effect connection to the SSH service.

firewall good.  script kiddie bad. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 While they didn't used to be (I'd misread WAN as Wireless LAN - Doah!) 
 but they are now... However I still get a (now single) error ath_pci: 
 Unknown symbol ieee80211_ioctl - about which I'm as unclear as I was 
 about the dozens of unknown symbols I saw previously.

Here is the result of 'grep -rn ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/`uname -r`/'

[snip misc bs]
modules.symbols:579:alias symbol:ieee80211_ioctl wlan
[snip more misc bs]
Binary file net/ath_pci.ko matches
Binary file net/wlan.ko matches

This tells me wlan.ko provides the symbol 'ieee80211_ioctl'.  Make sure
it is the first in the list in '/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6'.  If
you still get the error, make sure wlan.ko is in your 
'/lib/modules/`uname-r`/' and then run depmaod -ae again just in case.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 '/lib/modules/`uname-r`/' and then run depmaod -ae again just in case.

That should've been 'depmod -ae', sorry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  By any chance can you point me at documentation which explains what
  facilities are presented by ath_hal and wlan (as a previous post
  suggests these two aren't strictly necessary.)  Is it possible that
  ath_hal and wlan are loaded anyway as dependencies of ath_pci?
 
 I think that's exactly what happens.  The only module I autload is
 ath_pci and it works perfectly.

aha?  In you kernel .config, what is CONFIG_KMOD set to?  If set, it
allows the kernel to autoload modules as needed, for example, when they
are dependencies of ath_pci.ko ...  If unset, and wlan.ko isn't listed
first in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, this could be the problem.

I think it's under:

Loadable Module Support - Automatic kernel module loading


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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper wrote:
 
 aha? In you kernel .config, what is CONFIG_KMOD set to? If set, it
 
 allows the kernel to autoload modules as needed, for example, when they
 are dependencies of ath_pci.ko ...  If unset, and wlan.ko isn't listed
 first in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, this could be the problem.
 
 I think it's under:
 
 Loadable Module Support - Automatic kernel module loading
  
 
 
 I've got that:
 # grep CONFIG_KMOD .config
 CONFIG_KMOD=y
 
 Which I suppose explains why wlan and ath_hal seem to be loaded for me 
 without an explicit inclusion.

damn.  I suppose you could try re-merging madwifi... I'm running out of
ideas.  If you decide to do that, make sure the currently running kernel
is the same one /usr/src/linux points to.  

What was the output of:

# grep -rn ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/`uname -r`

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Re: [gentoo-user] MADWIFI driver...

Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper wrote:
 Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 While they didn't used to be (I'd misread WAN as Wireless LAN - Doah!) 
 but they are now... However I still get a (now single) error ath_pci: 
 Unknown symbol ieee80211_ioctl - about which I'm as unclear as I was 
 about the dozens of unknown symbols I saw previously.

 
 Here is the result of 'grep -rn ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/`uname -r`/'
 
 [snip misc bs]
 modules.symbols:579:alias symbol:ieee80211_ioctl wlan
 [snip more misc bs]
 Binary file net/ath_pci.ko matches
 Binary file net/wlan.ko matches
  
 
 OK... this seems to be relevant...
 --
 # grep -rn ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
 Binary file /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/net/ath_pci.ko matches
 # locate wlan.ko

try: 

# find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -name wlan.ko -print

'locate' is only accurate as of the last time you updated its database.

 /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/net/ath_hal.ko
 # grep ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/net/wlan.ko
 # locate modules.symbols
 /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/modules.symbols
 # grep ieee80211_ioctl /lib/modules/2.6.9-gentoo-r1/modules.symbols
 #

 Have you any idea why youe wlan.ko matches but mine doesn't?
 My modules.symbols does mention wlan - but doesn't mention 
 ieee80211_ioctl at all.

If the find command doesn't show wlan.ko, re-merge madwifi and run
'depmod -ae'.  Otherwise, just run 'depmod -ae'.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keeping things clean

2005-04-02 Thread Jason Stubbs

On Sunday 03 April 2005 02:48, James wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've been running Gentoo for a week or two now, all is going well, but
 I'm using up a lot of hard disk space with all these sources I've
 downloaded and uncompressed.

 I've had a quick look in the Portage docs, but can't find anything that
 looks like a solution to this problem. So my question: is there a
 function in Portage that allows me to delete old unpacked source files
 and tarballs (e.g. emerge --[whatever]), or should I go hunt them down
 in /usr/portage... and delete them 'manually'?

There should be no unpacked sources left around other than the kernels. Failed 
builds are left behind in /var/tmp/portage. Successful builds should 
completely remove all traces from that directory now. It's safe to delete 
everything in there as long as portage isn't running though.

For distfiles, I do similar to the following:

# mv /usr/portage/distfiles /usr/portage/distfiles.old
# mkdir -p /etc/portage
# echo local /usr/portage/distfiles.old  /etc/portage/mirrors
# emerge -ef world
# rm /etc/portage/mirrors
# rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles.old

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

2005-04-02 Thread Jason Stubbs

 On Sunday 03 April 2005 03:10, John Lowell wrote:
  # For setting the default gateway
  #
  gateway=192.168.1.1

On Sunday 03 April 2005 11:34, Mike Williams wrote:
 # For setting the default gateway
 #
 #gateway=eth0/192.168.0.1
 #gateway=eth0/192.168.128.1

ie. You need the eth0/ prepending your gateway setting.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage and package specific CFLAGS

On Friday 01 April 2005 04:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:46:31 +0200 Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 | Juergen Fiedler wrote:
 |  If you really feel the need to cram it all onto one line, you could
 |  #CFLAGS=whatever  CXXFLAGS=CFLAGS  emerge something
 |
 | without the typo and even smaller:
 | # CFLAGS=whatever  CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS emerge something

 CFLAGS=whatever CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS emerge fnord

 No .

Conflicting advice...

On Thursday 31 March 2005 16:46, Aaron Walker wrote:
 One thing to note though, is that your reasoning is flawed when setting
 CXXFLAGS to $CFLAGS.  CFLAGS wont be equal to whatever until after you
 hit enter, so unless CFLAGS is already set in your env, CXXFLAGS will be
 null.  If it is set in your env, CXXFLAGS will be whatever CFLAGS is in
 your env, not whatever.

/me checks which is correct.

$ CFLAGS=old
$ CFLAGS=new CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS echo $CFLAGS - $CXXFLAGS
old -

Woah... Ciaran is wrong! First time for everything, eh? *wink, nudge*

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Host, Schmost!

On Friday 01 April 2005 20:03, John Lowell wrote:
 I just completed a stage1 install from the minimal 2005.0 livecd on a box
 that will be used as a web server. I boot without incident, run ifconfig
 and get a perfectly suitable response, can ping my router successfully but,
 attempting to reach the web, get unknown host errors.

 The setup here is almost trite: Three workstations with dynamic addresses
 behind an ADSL router/switch which doubles as a dhcp server, and the
 webserver mentioned earlier with a static address outside the range
 authorized for dynamic service and with port 80 forwarded. I have
 /etc/conf.d/net with iface_eth0=192,168.1.44 Broadcast 192.168.0.255
 NetMask 255.255.255.0 and gateway enabled at 192.168.1.1. /etc/resolv.conf
 shows proper nameserver numbers.

Your broadcast address is wrong there. You also have a comma between 192 and 
168. Not sure if the capitalization matters either.

 I don't get it. The workstations all reach the web without difficulty. But
 the webserver, nothing but unknown host errors. This same machine was
 working just fine before the latest install with the very same
 configuration. Some help please.

`route -n` output on the box makes sense?

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Won't emerge -uDvp world

On Friday 01 April 2005 23:02, Mike Turcotte wrote:
 Hello I am trying to upgrade my file server that was built a half to three
 quarters of a year ago using Gentoo 2004.2 GRP. I know this is really old
 and probably insecure, but it is used mainly for file sharing internally on
 my network. Anyways, I emerge synced, which went fine, but when I try to
 pretend to emerge -uDvp world to see what it's going to install, I get the
 error about missing /etc/make.profile and check symlink. What does this
 mean and what can I do about it? Are those the emerge options I should be
 using for this?

Okay. You've hit a bug in portage, which you'll side-step, and then have to 
side-step another bug in order to get you back to a supported profile. 
Assuming that you do in fact have an /etc/make.profile symlink, first create 
an empty make.defaults under it:

# touch /etc/make.profile/make.defaults

Then upgrade portage to the latest, which should be 2.0.51.19. You'll get a 
depracation notice telling you to upgrade your profile. Ignore it. So, that's 
just:

# emerge portage

Once that's done, then you can follow whatever the steps shown were to upgrade 
your profile. After that's done, you should be back in business again.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug reporting questions

On Friday 01 April 2005 22:49, Leo wrote:
 Hi.

 I'm getting an error with sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1:

 loadmsgcat.c: In function `_nl_init_domain_conv':
 ../sysdeps/i386/bits/string.h:655: error: can't find a register in class
 `GENERAL_REGS' while reloading `asm'
 make[2]: ***
 [/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1/work/build-default-i386-pc-linux-
gnu-linuxthreads/intl/loadmsgcat.os] Error 1

These lines contain all the information necessary. The first error that 
occurred, what file it occurred in and what directory that file is in. The 
rest of the information will sometimes help but it is quite rare in my 
experience.

 I define
 $ARCH='~x86'

Are you sure you don't mean ACCEPT_KEYWORDS? You should not be touching the 
ARCH variable at all. If you are, it could quite realistically be causing 
your issue.

 What product do I select when reporting this bug on Gentoo bugzilla?
 Should I just send an email directly to the glibc maintainer?

You should just follow what it tells you, ie Gentoo Linux.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless redux

2005-03-31 Thread Jason Cooper

Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Thursday 31 March 2005 08:33 am, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   After days of wrangling with /etc/wireless, I got it -- almost.  One
   problem remains.  At boot, wlan0 sets up fine, but then dhcpcd fails,
   returning that dhcpcd is already running on wlan0.  Once booted, I
   must
   remove /var/run/dhcpcd-wlan0.pid and then run dhcpcd.  I can't seem to
   find what in the wirelss script is causing this and can't think of where
   else to look.   Any advice appreciated.  Thanks.
 
  It sounds like net.wlan0 isn't being shutdown cleanly.  When you
  shutdown do you see wlan0 being brought down?  That is when that pid
  lock file would be removed.
 
  Try shutting down net.wlan0 manually (/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 stop) and
  either restart it or reboot.  Do you get the same error?
 
 Nope.  Shutting down manually:
 
 [Thu Mar 31] root:/etc/conf.d$ /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 stop
  * Unmounting network filesystems ...[ ok ]
  * Unmounting NFS filesystems ...   [ ok ]
  * Stopping NFS statd ...  [ ok ]
  * Stopping portmap ...[ ok ]
  * Stopping wlan0 
  *Bringing down wlan0
  *   Stopping dhcpcd on wlan0 ... [ ok ]
  *   Shutting down wlan0 ... [ ok ]
 
 Starting:
 
 Thu Mar 31] root:/etc/conf.d$ /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
  * Starting wlan0
  *Configuring wireless network for wlan0
  *   wlan0 connected to Arachne at 
  *   in managed mode (WEP enabled - restricted)
  *Bringing up wlan0
  *   dhcp
  *  Running dhcpcd ...   [ ok ]
  *  wlan0 received address 192.168.1.5
  
 Then, at shutdown, everything, including dhcpcd, flits by the screen as in 
 the stop stuff above.  However, reboot delivers the same dhcpcd already 
 running.  It is a conundrum.

Well, one of two things is happening.  

1.) net.wlan0 isn't being called during shutdown. Doubtful.
2.) net.wlan0 is called, but errors out before killing dhcpcd.

If it's erroring out during shutdown, assuming your syslog daemon hasn't
been killed yet, there should be an 'rc-scripts' error message in your
logs regarding unable to bring down wlan0.

Take a look and see if there is anything there.

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[gentoo-user] emerge wget failed - help

2005-03-29 Thread JASON JESSO

I am trying an emerge on wget.  I get a compile error:

In file included from ftp.c:52:
ftp.h:81: error: parse error before numeric constant
make[1]: *** [ftp.o] Error 1
cd po  make CC='i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' CPPFLAGS=''
DEFS='-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DSYSTEM_WGETRC=\/etc/wget/wgetrc\
-DLOCALEDIR=\/usr/share/locale\' CFLAGS='-O2
-march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-I/usr/include/openssl' LDFLAGS='' LIBS='-lssl
-lcrypto -ldl ' prefix='/usr' exec_prefix='/usr'
bindir='/usr/bin' infodir='/usr/share/info'
mandir='/usr/share/man' manext='1'
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/po'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/po'
cd util  make CC='i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' CPPFLAGS=''
DEFS='-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DSYSTEM_WGETRC=\/etc/wget/wgetrc\
-DLOCALEDIR=\/usr/share/locale\' CFLAGS='-O2
-march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-I/usr/include/openssl' LDFLAGS='' LIBS='-lssl
-lcrypto -ldl ' prefix='/usr' exec_prefix='/usr'
bindir='/usr/bin' infodir='/usr/share/info'
mandir='/usr/share/man' manext='1'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/util'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/util'
cd windows  make CC='i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc'
CPPFLAGS='' DEFS='-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DSYSTEM_WGETRC=\/etc/wget/wgetrc\
-DLOCALEDIR=\/usr/share/locale\' CFLAGS='-O2
-march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-I/usr/include/openssl' LDFLAGS='' LIBS='-lssl
-lcrypto -ldl ' prefix='/usr' exec_prefix='/usr'
bindir='/usr/bin' infodir='/usr/share/info'
mandir='/usr/share/man' manext='1'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/windows'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/windows'
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/wget-1.9.1-r3/work/wget-1.9.1/src'
make: *** [src] Error 2

!!! ERROR: net-misc/wget-1.9.1-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 54, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error,
NOT this status message.

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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge wget failed - help

2005-03-29 Thread JASON JESSO

OK..  That was my hunch and I am hunting also.

I also downloaded the tar file from GNU and get the
same error.

GETALL is the culprit.  But why am I the only one
tripping on this?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wget-1.9.1 $ find /usr/include/ -name
'*.h' -exec grep -l GETALL {} \;
/usr/include/linux/sem.h
/usr/include/bits/sem.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wget-1.9.1 $ cksum
/usr/include/bits/sem.h
1741411475 2648 /usr/include/bits/sem.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wget-1.9.1 $ cksum
/usr/include/linux/sem.h
851410447 5038 /usr/include/linux/sem.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wget-1.9.1 $ 


--- Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am trying an emerge on wget.  I get a compile
 error:
  
  In file included from ftp.c:52:
  ftp.h:81: error: parse error before numeric
 constant
  make[1]: *** [ftp.o] Error 1
 
 Jason, wget-1.9.1-r3 builds fine on my system. 
 Perhaps you could send the
 output from a few lines before this error rather
 than the ones following it?
 
 The line in ftp.h (81) is an enum construct where
 several symbolic names are
 used to represent constant values.  I'm not sure
 where the values are
 located (i.e. a system include file or a local
 include file), but I'm
 hunting...
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] strip

2005-03-29 Thread Jason Cooper

A. Khattri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  perhaps we need per package feature via an addition to /etc/portage
  - /etc/portage/package.features with a line like:
 
  app-misc/foo nostrip
 
 Sounds like a good idea to me...

Apparently, not everyone agrees:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51023

Though, I think USE flags were originally supposed to be global-only as
well...

just my $0.02

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-29 Thread Jason Cooper

Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  Stroller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   
   On Mar 27, 2005, at 8:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
   
   /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
 Starting wlan0
 Configuring wireless network for wlan0
 Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
 Failed to configure wireless for wlan0
   
   I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence,
   the above command.
   
   Have you tried reporting it as a bug? Uberlord is making quite active 
   development on the next generation network configuration at the 
   moment.
  
  shame :(
  
  I'll admit, I had thought about it as I wrote it.  When I encountered
  the problem last night, I thought it was just an out-lier.  I run into 
  that *alot* because I can't leave well enough alone :)  However, it
  would appear my case is not an out-lier. 
  
  I'll check bugzilla to see if anyone else has reported it...
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86904
 
 Couldn't find anything similar, so I started a new one.

The fix is in tweaking '/etc/conf.d/wireless'.  See the bug mentioned
above for the solution.  The nature of the problem for me was that I
wasn't broadcasting my ssid.  

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge system = many automakes

Dave Nebinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip]
 They don't take up that much space and ensure the system builds properly, so
 don't worry about them.

Don't look behind the curtain, there's nothing to see here.  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Quick perl question

Jonathan Nichols ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 (Note: I suck at Perl.)
 
 I have a script. it's a simple script.
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 $file = foo.txt;
 systemwget http://clutter.pbp.net/~jnichols/foo.txt; || die Couldn't 
 get $file;
 
 Currently foo.txt doesn't exist. It'll return a 404. It doesn't die 
 with the error message above. Basically, I need wget to die and return 
 the specified error message if the result is *anything* but successful. 
 If wget gets the file, ok. If it fails to get the file for any reason, 
 barf out.

This is a trimmed down version of a sub I use for system calls:

#
$command = 'wget http://clutter.pbp.net/~jnichols/foo.txt';
   system($command) == 0
  or die system $command failed: $?;
   if ($? == -1) {
   print failed to execute: $!\n;
   }
   elsif ($?  127) {
   printf child died with signal %d, %s coredump\n,
   ($?  127),  ($?  128) ? 'with' : 'without';
   }
#

It should work for your situation.  I think I got it out of one of the
O'Reilly books.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Quick perl question

Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jonathan Nichols ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  (Note: I suck at Perl.)
  
  I have a script. it's a simple script.
  
  #!/usr/bin/perl
  $file = foo.txt;
  systemwget http://clutter.pbp.net/~jnichols/foo.txt; || die Couldn't 
  get $file;
  
  Currently foo.txt doesn't exist. It'll return a 404. It doesn't die 
  with the error message above. Basically, I need wget to die and return 
  the specified error message if the result is *anything* but successful. 
  If wget gets the file, ok. If it fails to get the file for any reason, 
  barf out.
 
 This is a trimmed down version of a sub I use for system calls:
 
 #
   $command = 'wget http://clutter.pbp.net/~jnichols/foo.txt';
system($command) == 0
   or die system $command failed: $?;
if ($? == -1) {
print failed to execute: $!\n;
}
elsif ($?  127) {
printf child died with signal %d, %s coredump\n,
($?  127),  ($?  128) ? 'with' : 'without';
}
 #
 
 It should work for your situation.  I think I got it out of one of the
 O'Reilly books.

eh, on second thought, it'll only work if wget kicks back an error.  I
would follow the path mentioned by AJK, look into http modules.
Unfortunately, I've never used them, so I'm of little help there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

David Corbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 07:34 pm, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  Also you don't need to update just because you can. If, for example, you
  stick to security updates, you will have far less compiling. However you
  may also miss something exciting on the leading edge.
 
 How do you identify security updates?  

# emerge -av gentoolkit

# glsa-check -l
watch it spew, or

# glsa-check -ln | egrep \[N\]

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my wireless 
 doesn't work.  I tried manual:
 
 iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open
 
 I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
   SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
 
 iwconfig:
 IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne

I've had great success with:

# iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC

 /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
   Starting wlan0
   Configuring wireless network for wlan0
   Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
   Failed to configure wireless for wlan0

I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence, 
the above command.

 /etc/conf.d/wireless is unchanged from when it worked, as is /etc/conf.d/net. 
  
 The symlinks in /etc/init.d are also unchanged.I have baselayout 
 1.11.10-r4.  At boot:
 
 wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device mac address using driver netwg511
 wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP
 
 All the ndiswrapper stuff looks OK as far as I can tell.   Any advice 
 appreciated.  Thanks.

It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 02:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my
   wireless doesn't work.  I tried manual:
  
   iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open
  
   I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
 SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
  
   iwconfig:
   IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne
 
  I've had great success with:
 
  # iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
  0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC
 
 [snip]
 
  It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
  above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.
 
 I ran what you suggested, and iwconfig now returns:
 
 IEEE 80211g  ESSID: Arachne Nickname: Arachne
 Mode: Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: router mac address
 Bit Rate  . . .  etc
 
 which is a heck of a lot more than I was getting before - at least the ap is 
 recognized.  Where I go from here, though, I have no clue.

Oops, forgot that part.  Assuming your AP is running a dhcp server, all
you should have to do now is:

# dhcpcd ath0

Mine takes 10 to 30 seconds before it returns the prompt to me.  Not
sure why... Then I ping google.com for good measure.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Stroller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  
  On Mar 27, 2005, at 8:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
  
  /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
Starting wlan0
Configuring wireless network for wlan0
Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
Failed to configure wireless for wlan0
  
  I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence,
  the above command.
  
  Have you tried reporting it as a bug? Uberlord is making quite active 
  development on the next generation network configuration at the 
  moment.
 
 shame :(
 
 I'll admit, I had thought about it as I wrote it.  When I encountered
 the problem last night, I thought it was just an out-lier.  I run into 
 that *alot* because I can't leave well enough alone :)  However, it
 would appear my case is not an out-lier. 
 
 I'll check bugzilla to see if anyone else has reported it...

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86904

Couldn't find anything similar, so I started a new one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview of what an average
 gentoo user might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.
 
 I installed 3 days ago and am still getting things setup.  Seems like
 an awfull lot of time has gone into emerging stuff I wanted installed.
 
 Now it turns out there is an update to portage and my system is
 telling me it needs to update portage and then update the already
 installed packages.  2 more huge chunks of time lost to compiling.
 
 An activity that seems so intensive that I have been reluctant to and
 doubted the advisability of installing or making configs during the
 compile process.
 
 So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish
 emerging.   It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary
 long time.  
 
 I'm wondering what a user might see over 6 mnths.   How many portage
 updates in that amount of time.  Howmany `update worlds'.

Of the 5 machines I have running gentoo, I would say on average I run
'emerge -uDav world' from every other day to once a week.  However, I
sure don't sit around and watch it.  

Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  

Hell, a lot of times I completely forget my CPU is pegged out running a
merge, till I flip over to that desktop to look at something, then I see
compiler messages flying by... Basically, it doesn't affect the UI at all. 

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
  and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
  machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  
 
 With an --update world running are you able to emerge packages you
 want to install? A lot of what I have to do right now involves
 installations.  I assumed that was not a wise move.

ehhh, YMMV. :)  I've done it, but held my breath while doing it.  I
assume you are refering to merging two packages simultaneously.  The
compiling won't interfere with the other, but installation could be
interesting if the two packages cross paths in some way.  Also, since
compiling sucks up 99% of CPU, both packages will take longer.

Normally, if my box is doing an '--update world' and I want to compile
my code, or merge a new package, I'll CTL-Z the '--update world'.  This
pauses it until I type 'fg' or 'bg' in the same console (forground and
background, respectively).  I've never had a paused and resumed merge
fail on me, however, I have forgotten to resume a few.  The terminal is
kind enough to remind you when you try to close it. ;-)

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

Stroller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 
 On Mar 27, 2005, at 8:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
 
 /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
   Starting wlan0
   Configuring wireless network for wlan0
   Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
   Failed to configure wireless for wlan0
 
 I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence,
 the above command.
 
 Have you tried reporting it as a bug? Uberlord is making quite active 
 development on the next generation network configuration at the 
 moment.

shame :(

I'll admit, I had thought about it as I wrote it.  When I encountered
the problem last night, I thought it was just an out-lier.  I run into 
that *alot* because I can't leave well enough alone :)  However, it
would appear my case is not an out-lier. 

I'll check bugzilla to see if anyone else has reported it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread Jason Cooper

PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip]
   EMACS=xemacs /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp $@ || exit 1; \
 else : ; fi
 xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
 shared object file: No such file or directory

re-merge xemacs.  xorg-x11 recently moved some things (libXm is the big
PIA).  Projects that contained absolute paths to libraries (eg xemacs,
xlock, and xpdf) need to be recompiled to get the new path.

Yes, this is a bug is xemacs.  Absolute paths are devilry. :)

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] compile error with gettext

2005-03-24 Thread Jason Cooper

PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper wrote:
 PK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 [snip]
 
  EMACS=xemacs /bin/sh ../../config/elisp-comp $@ || exit 1; \
 else : ; fi
 xemacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.2: cannot open 
 shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 
 re-merge xemacs.  xorg-x11 recently moved some things (libXm is the big
 PIA).  Projects that contained absolute paths to libraries (eg xemacs,
 xlock, and xpdf) need to be recompiled to get the new path.
 
 Yes, this is a bug is xemacs.  Absolute paths are devilry. :)

 I found the bug and tried to patch it by editing the ebuild
 however its still spitting out the same message
 
 any ideas?

What bug did you find?  You shouldn't need to edit the ebuild.  Simply
re-emerging xemacs should pick up the change in location for libXm.  

Unless one of the libraries xemacs uses is the real problem... but
first, lets see some details on the bug, and the ebuild edit. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Touchpad

2005-03-08 Thread Jason Edson

did you read up on the synaptic driver? i know you need it for 
touchpads.at least im pretty sure.

Marko Kocic wrote:
Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is off-topic, but I couldn't get my touchpad
working ater installing xorg. I did everything like in xorg howto.
Could anybody post some howto-tutorial how to achieve this? Do I need
to recompile kernel, and if so, which modules I should include?
I'm using kernel gentoo-2.6.9 on my Fujitsu Siemens Amilo laptop.
Thanks,
Marko
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Maintenance

2005-03-05 Thread Jason Stubbs

On Saturday 05 March 2005 04:38, Michael Haan wrote:
 I've just about got my mythtv box finished and I'm turning my eyes to
 the job of maintaining it.  I know there are several routine things I
 should be doing, but I'm curious just how often I should be doing
 them.  Any advice as to when I should be doing some of the routine
 portage/package version maintenance things?

Personally, I'd say there should be no routine things you need to do to it. As 
the old adage says, if it ain't broke don't fix it. In my experience, there 
are two areas that need to be covered in daily usage; one is running out of 
disk space and the other is security updates. The former is best covered by 
log rotation and, if lengthy logs are required, backuping up to another box. 

Security updates can be covered in a few ways. Two ways that come to mind are 
either updating the portage tree of the box (without updating the packages) 
and running glsa-check, and subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and reading the 
securing updates as they come in. Personally, I prefer the latter as it means 
that I don't have to touch the box that I'm concerned about. Really, how you 
do it is up to you though. The best advice I can give is if it ain't broke 
don't fix it.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs
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Re: [gentoo-user] new wireless IP address on my LAN

2005-03-05 Thread Jason Cooper

Ralph Slooten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 A. Khattri wrote:
  Yes and no. While it will block most people, MAC addresses can be spoofed
  anyway.
 
 Any idea how they could get your MAC address, or the only one the AP
 accepts? I don't think they would use brute force, but still don't know
 if it's possible to get too.

When wep is enabled, any machine in the vicinity with a wifi card in
promiscuous mode can still see the bssid, source mac, and dest mac of 
traffic flowing through the AP.  Thus, they have the mac addresses that 
are permitted.  They wait till you shut off that machine, and they have
access.  Assuming they have the wep key, which is trivial to retrieve.  

Take a look at WPA authentication, not used much yet, so there are fewer
tools available for hacking it.  Plus, the tools are dictionary attacks,
which limits their effectiveness.

Honestly, if you are that concerned about it, switch to a wired network. 

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dependencies are broken

2005-02-28 Thread Jason Edson

Ok I have like 300 mails to go through so I don't know if this has been 
solved but I did emerge dvdrip last night and it installed everything 
and it runs perfectly on my system. I know this doesnt help at all but 
its just to show that it does get all the packages it needs and my USE 
is USE=

Jason Edson
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVR sourceforge project and gentoo

2005-02-25 Thread Jason Cooper

Kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Does anyone here know anything about it?  Is it dead?  If so, what's the
 best alternative?  I'd like to view and record from several channels
 simultaneously.  No TV per se involved.  Just cameras and Bt878 capture
 cards.

motion.  unfortunately, not in portage, but very active.  You should be
able to find an ebuild in bugzilla or on the net.

http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Schematic Drawing software

2005-02-25 Thread Jason Cooper

James ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 I'm looking for a drawing program, that has lots of symbols
 such as networking and electrical symbols, build in. 
 Something like RFflow (http://www.rff.com/) for the pc. I'd be 
 nice if the output files could be loaded directly into OpenOffice.
 
 Any suggestions?

The closest I came across was Dia, 'app-office/dia'.  Not sure about
exporting to openoffice...

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] search emerge

2005-02-24 Thread Jason Cooper

Daniel D Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Long time Linux user but new to gentoo and trying to get a good handle on 
 emerge.

Long time listener, first time caller?  Hello caller :)

 I recently used emerge to install traceroute.  During the install, it noted 
 that it was installing net-analyzer/traceroute.  I wanted to see what other 
 packages were available under net-analyzer but doing an emerge --search on 
 net-analyzer came up with nothing.  So I tried emerge --searchdesc.  That 
 brought me to my first question:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # time emerge --searchdesc analyzer
 Searching...  -/usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 21: 
 ...
 real22m48.548s
 user18m54.880s
 sys 3m29.307s
[snip]

# emerge eix

in your cron job to update your db you probably have 'emerge sync', make
it 'emerge sync  eix -u'

to search, 'eix search term'.  It also accepts regex.  As for speed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] # time eix -S analyzer
Search results: 27
[snip results]
real0m0.381s
user0m0.068s
sys 0m0.008s

Fast enough for you? ;)

hth,

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[gentoo-user] KDE 3.4 Beta 2

2005-02-24 Thread Jason Edson

Hi, I'm kind of new to gentoo, well using advanced portage features, and 
I was just wondering how i get emerge kde to install 3.4 beta 2 instead 
of 3.3.2. And if I can get it to work can I have both 3.3.2 and 3.4 beta 
2 installed? Thank you for your time!

Jason Edson
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error in the emerge of gpm-1.20.1

2005-02-17 Thread Jason Cooper

John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Wednesday 16 February 2005 09:32, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Dave Nebinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
My questions are :

a. Why is this happening (i.e. is this a bug, or a misconfiguration on 
my
side)
b. How should I fix this ?
   
   Don't believe it's a bug, but then I'm not running emacs so I don't have
   that use flag set.
   
   You could try an env-update, which would rebuild the ld cache and might
   resolve it.
  
  This is happening because the newest versions of X.org have moved a
  bunch of files around.  Partly for FHS compliance, and partly other
  reasons.  
  
  It looks like a path was hard-coded into the package.  Try re-merging
  gpm while the new X.org is installed.  That should fix it.  
 
 But re-merge emacs first. Emacs is the one that's broken. I had this problem 
 already.

Yeah, you're right.  I'll chalk that fumble up to a bad case of the flu
:)

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error in the emerge of gpm-1.20.1

2005-02-16 Thread Jason Cooper

Dave Nebinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  My questions are :
  
  a. Why is this happening (i.e. is this a bug, or a misconfiguration on my
  side)
  b. How should I fix this ?
 
 Don't believe it's a bug, but then I'm not running emacs so I don't have
 that use flag set.
 
 You could try an env-update, which would rebuild the ld cache and might
 resolve it.

This is happening because the newest versions of X.org have moved a
bunch of files around.  Partly for FHS compliance, and partly other
reasons.  

It looks like a path was hard-coded into the package.  Try re-merging
gpm while the new X.org is installed.  That should fix it.  

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Straight To X/KDE

2005-02-15 Thread Jason Smith





as root type rc-update add xdm default

This will start up KDM when you start the machine.

Jason


On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 22:36 -0700, Mike Melanson wrote:


Hi,
	So my new Gentoo/AMD64 is working quite well since I set it up a few 
weeks ago. Now I think I would like to make it boot directly into a 
graphical Windows environment (X/KDE) on startup rather than having to 
login and type 'startx'. Call me a lame Windows user if you will.

	What's the way to do this? I seem to recall something involving run 
level 6.

	Thanks...

Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10 and automounting ?

2005-02-14 Thread Jason Smith





Can anyone explain to me how they got USB to automount with supermount?

I haven't been able to figure this out?

Thanks,


JasonOn Mon, 2005-02-14 at 14:12 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:04:25 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

 1) patch the kernel to re-enable supermount, which is considered evil,
 thus why it was removed. However, the ck-sources still patches for 
 supermount, and even if you don't want to use ck-sources, you can nick 
 the patch from the homepage and use it anyway. This is what I do, as no 
 matter how evil it is, supermount actually works reliably, and that is
 what is most important to me.

I've found the same. supermount works reliably for CD/DVD and USB flash
devices, despite any alleged evilness. The alternatives all had
drawbacks that made them inferior to supermount from this user's point of
view. I use gentoo-dev-sources and apply the patch from the ck sources
site. It's worked reliably since supermount was removed from
gentoo-dev-sources for 2.6.8(?).

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

2005-02-06 Thread Jason Cooper

Captain FantastiK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Now, I foudn out what was the problem. It seems to be the -static USE Flag 
 (But I don't understand why) so when I removed, the compiling Process was 
 OK. But Now, I have another Problem with X: the modules is failing from 
 Loading: Here is the output of Xorg.0.log:
 
[snip log info]
 (II) LoadModule: bitmap
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
 Duplicate symbol __i686.get_pc_thunk.bx in 
 /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a:bitmapmod.o
 Also defined in /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
 
 Fatal server error:
 Module load failure

This is a bug with using a hardened gcc/glibc combo.  There are two
solutions to this problem.  The first is to patch Xorg source to add the
'-norun' flag (this is from memory, may not be the right word).  Or you
can remove the hardened USE flag, and re-merge gcc, glibc, and then
Xorg. 

I'll be honest, I took the easier route and re-merged without -hardened.
I encountered this same problem on my primary work machine and needed to
get it back up fast.

This has to do with when functions are looked up in shared libraries.
Without -hardened, gcc/glibc does 'lazy lookups'.  When you use
-hardened, all symbols are looked up at initial execution, thus
inconsistencies are found.  

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

2005-02-05 Thread Jason Cooper

Luke Ravitch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On 2005-02-01 12:10, Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  shameless plug
  http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
  
  Let me know if you have any questions.
 
 Jason, the script is great!  Pretty soon I'll have copies of all my
 DVDs and will no longer have to live in fear of the kids handling
 them!  (The copies, anyway.)
 
 I am having a certain issue with some of the DVDs that I'm trying to
 copy.  At the mplex stage, I get the message:
 
 **ERROR: [mplex] Need to split output but there appears to be no
 %d in the filename pattern movie.mpeg
 
 Much of the time, movie.mpeg seems to go all the way to the end of the
 credits (i.e., it looks done to me).  So, a few questions...
 
 - You said you've copied a ~100 DVDs - have you seen this before?
 - Any ideas what I could do to avoid it?
 - Since movie.mpg looks done, is there some way to force dvd9to5
   to continue processing anyway?

Yep, I've run into it a few times, and had a few reports of it.
Apparently it is a bug in mplex.  I've tried adjusting the options
passed to mplex to satisfy it, and nothing seems to work.  

What version of mplex are you using?

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Compiling Failure

Captain FantastiK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 
 Hi
 
 I tried many times compiling xorg but it was always ending with the same 
 error message:
 
 ...
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[4]: ***[Xorg] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving Directory: 
 '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs/Xserver'
 make[3]: ***[all] Error 2
 make[3]: Leaving Directory: 
 '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc/programs'
 make[2]: ***[all] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
 make[1]: ***[World] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving Directory: '/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4/work/xc'
 make:***[World] Error2

Need about 15 to 20 more lines above this... All that can be seen from
this is that you have a linker error.  Chances are you need to run
'fix_libtool_files.sh' with a version of gcc as an argument.  Run a
search of gentoo-user for that and it should explain how to use it.

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Digital Information

Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 This is off-topic, but I bet you guys can help me figure this out.
 
 How does digital information (0 or 1, off or on) end up doing all the
 stuff it does?  A link or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-071Introduction-to-ElectronicsFall2002/CourseHome/index.htm

That should give you something to noodle on for a while :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with a script please...

Mal Herring ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Hi List,
 I would like to write a script that somehow gets a text only output of a
 webpage - can lynx do this ?
 Then grep the output for a desired string of text - then somehow pass
 the result to an if command so that if the string is found - lauch this
 and if not then loop...

wget -O - web url | grep expression

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tor

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
 are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
 thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
 anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
 road so i know its secure and anonymous.

It works really well.  Although it does get bogged down when you run
gtk-gnutella through it for 48 hours :)

All the masking means is that the ebuild hasn't been tested enough.  It
worked for me on several different platforms, though.  Give it a whirl.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tor

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 15:51 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   i noticed tor is masked in portage. is anyone using it without problems?
   are there any other programs like Tor out there that accomplish the same
   thing? anonymous surfing? im looking for something i can set up to be
   anonymous while on the web from home and also connect to it while on the
   road so i know its secure and anonymous.
  
  It works really well.  Although it does get bogged down when you run
  gtk-gnutella through it for 48 hours :)
  
  All the masking means is that the ebuild hasn't been tested enough.  It
  worked for me on several different platforms, though.  Give it a whirl.
  
 sweet ill have to play with that then.  do you know how to open it up to
 accept external requests? not just internal, so i can access it from
 anywhere? the wiki only explains the internal techniques. 

I don't offer it up to the world, but I have it accessible on my
internal lan through privoxy.  privoxy listens on 0.0.0.0:8118 and
passes everything on to tor.  I suppose you could do the same with tor,
I just haven't tried it.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] simple backups

2005-02-03 Thread Jason Cooper

Neil Bothwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 18:06:27 +, Steve wrote:
 
  Fair comment... I stand corrected that rsync/rdiff-backup are 
  appropriate for backup of user files.  This issue is an old one of trade
  off between being able to make fast backups and being able to recover 
  quickly. IMHO the dd approach is still valid and useful as it is one of 
  the few ways to ensure rapid disaster recovery. I agree that an rsync 
  approach permits more frequent backups to be made for user files. Maybe 
  a better recommendation would have been a combination of dd to take an 
  image of the install - then rsync to keep regular copies of user files.
 
 I'd still disagree, rsync or rdiff-backup create an exact mirror of the
 file tree, so you have a backup that is extremely fast to restore from,
 especially for individual files. If I want an image of the partition, I'll
 use partimage as it is several orders of magnitude faster than dd and
 produces smaller archives.
 
 As a backup tool dd is about as friendly as backing up to punched cards :(

Why not a combination of the two?  Use dd to a file to create an initial
image of the partition.  Then, once per night, mount it as a loopback
file, and rsync it... 

This way if you have a catastrophic drive failure, you can low-level
re-image the drive.

2c yada.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo keeps crashing during compile

2005-02-03 Thread Jason Edson

Mark Brier wrote:
Jason Edson wrote:
Mark Brier wrote:
Jason Cooper wrote:
Does it die with the same error in the same place each time?  If not,
you probably have a hardware problem.  Typically, either your CPU is
overheating (check the fan) or the memory is bad (run memtest86, 
replace
bad sticks).
It does seem as if it's dying at the same point every time, but I am 
not so sure. I'll run it a few more times and check it. The CPU is 
at 25 degrees, there's a lot of cooling in my box, so I don't think 
it's that. I will reboot and try memtest86.

BTW, Some programs compile, such as memtest86 for instance, others 
make it crap out, such as ximian-open-office and xfce4.

I had the same problem when after I got the install done i would 
reboot then try and emerge kde. It would get a part of the way done 
then crap out at diffrent points. I finnally found the problem. I 
have 2 sticks of 512Mb RAM and I took out one of them and boom, it 
works great now. I thought it was a heat problem but I guess I just 
got some bad RAM. Just my 2 cents.

Memtest ran for a day and found nothing.
Rebuilding a brand-spanking new nptlonly. Fingers crossed!
I was the one stating that i emerged kde and had the same problem. I 
also ran memtest over night and had little or no problems ( i dont 
remember) but taking out (or replacing) the 1 ram stick worked. I dont 
know why and now I have it back in and the compiling works fine now. I 
dont understand why but it does. So I would suggest just trying it so 
see if thats the problem. If it's not, good luck figuring out what it is 
and please reply if you solve.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo keeps crashing during compile

2005-02-03 Thread Jason Cooper

Jason Edson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Mark Brier wrote:
 Jason Edson wrote:
[snip]
 I had the same problem when after I got the install done i would 
 reboot then try and emerge kde. It would get a part of the way done 
 then crap out at diffrent points. I finnally found the problem. I 
 have 2 sticks of 512Mb RAM and I took out one of them and boom, it 
 works great now. I thought it was a heat problem but I guess I just 
 got some bad RAM. Just my 2 cents.
 
 Memtest ran for a day and found nothing.
 
 Rebuilding a brand-spanking new nptlonly. Fingers crossed!
 
 I was the one stating that i emerged kde and had the same problem. I 
 also ran memtest over night and had little or no problems ( i dont 
 remember) but taking out (or replacing) the 1 ram stick worked. I dont 
 know why and now I have it back in and the compiling works fine now. I 
 dont understand why but it does. So I would suggest just trying it so 
 see if thats the problem. If it's not, good luck figuring out what it is 
 and please reply if you solve.

memtest86 will find physical errors in your ram, however, it has trouble
nailing down transient errors.

The transient errors I've seen is when cheap ram is sold as useable at
two speeds, but at the higher one you get errors.  The cells aren't bad,
but the stick has trouble with the faster freq.  If bad enough this will
manifest itself as bad cells in memtest86, but will be in different, or
non-existent areas when memtest86 is re-run.

In a nutshell, memtest86 doesn't find all ram errors.  Try one stick at
a time or swapping out sticks from other machines if your builds keep
failing.

hth,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

2005-02-02 Thread Jason Cooper

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 09:38:14PM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
  
  [...] I suppose I'll make an ebuild for dvd9to5 first,
  
 
 Sometime ago I have done an ebuild for dvd9to5. I am attaching
 it here, in case you want to take a look. It is really simple.

Cool, thanks!  Did you put it in media-video/ or where?

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] yet another tv card sound problem

2005-02-02 Thread Jason Cooper

Jean-Philippe Bosc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Le mercredi 02 f?vrier 2005 ? 13:35 -0800, Bob Sanders a ?crit :
 
  Did you compile in bt878 (or bt8*) under sound - alsa - pci in the kernel?
  
  Bob 
 
 i guess :
 
 /usr/src/linux $ grep -i bt8 .config
 CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848=m
 CONFIG_SND_BT87X=m
 # CONFIG_SND_BT87X_OVERCLOCK is not set
 
 and about the use of these modules :
 
 /usr/src/linux $ lsmod | grep -i bt8
 snd_bt87x  10436  3
 snd_pcm84360  4
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_bt87x,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec
 snd_page_alloc  7492  2 snd_bt87x,snd_pcm
 snd46308  15
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_bt87x,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
 
 
 i can't explain to myself why, but i feel it's gonna be a shameful small
 detail that i forgot. but where could it hide ?

well, iirc, btaudio and newer (assume snd_bt87x is it's successor)
should _not_ be loaded if you are running the audio out of the card and
into the soundcard.  Those modules should only be used for pulling the
audio directly through the pci bus.  Which, last I checked (2yrs ago),
the timing would drift.  So everyone runs the audio through the
soundcard.

Try unloading snd_bt87x and see what happens.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip to nuts and bolts]
eprogress - a general-purpose hierarchical progress reporting system

my vision of the architecture has three components:

1) eprogress progress providers (clients?) (perhaps through some sort of
libeprogressc). These are programs like emerge, make, gcc, etc. which have
some sort of goal, and can report on their progress. They would need to be
patched to provide the system with the progress information.

I would advise against any development path that required patching many
different projects. There would be a lot of resistance. This also
seems to be passing off the crux of the problem (determining length of
compile time) to the developers of make/gcc/ldd etc. See BUs, below.

2) eprogressd (one for each master task, i.e. if you had an emerge and some
other make running at the same time, they would be kept separated). the
eprogressd would run in the background and keep track of all the progress
data.

Why not a single daemon which spawns a thread for each new program, ala
sshd (although iirc sshd forks)?

3) eprogress viewers which communicate with eprogressd to display a
representation of the progress data. There could be any number of
interchangeable viewers, some for console, some for X11. Some may be
specialized to a particular task (such as a special one for emerges), but all
would use the same protocol to talk to the eprogressd, which would be kept
generic (there could (should?) be some sort of libeprogressviewer to help
with this)

gkrellm?

I would suggest that the system should use UNIX domain sockets or TCP/IP
sockets for the communication, especially TCP/IP for the viewer connection.
It should not be necessary for the viewer to reside on the same machine as
the daemon. Nor, for that matter, should it be necessary for individual tasks
to be performed on the same machine.

Good idea, but there is no need to suggest, it's your project :)

Also, progress information does not have to be limited to a percentage
(though
that is required). The information could contain many things, like compiler
command lines, warnings, errors, einfos etc.

This is the line item requirement I would drive a truck through, if I
were a customer/user. :)

Please let me know what you think.

This idea has been floated many times before, with little success. Not
to rain on the idea. :) The problem is much more complicated than it
initially looks. For insight, take a look at the section in
linuxfromscratch regarding SBUs (static bash units).

http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/4.0/LFS-BOOK-4.0-HTML/chapter02/aboutsbus.html

Personally, I would do less planning and more writing, some of the best
projects started off as a hack to scratch an itch. Keep it simple. A
lot of the most useful programs out there are very small. It can always
be rewritten later to include TCP/IP or threads. Good luck!

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox crash and burn

Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 okay, ever since I tried out the Mozilla Archive Format extension for
 firefox, firefox crashes with:
 
 Segmentation fault:   $mozbin $@
 
 (typed, not copied, since I have now unmerged firefox and am re-merging
 it)
 
 I tried to just re-merge it.  No luck.  Now thunderbird does the same
 thing.  
 
 I saved my bookmarks and wiped out /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird as well as
 ~/.mozilla .  Yes, I'm wholesale deleting things.  No, this is not good
 :(. 
 
 Anyone seen this and fixed it?  Google doesn't come up with anything
 useful. 

Okay, for the record, I found the fix:

http://www.nixp.ru/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?board=soft;action=display;num=1092203149

It's in russian (not that I could understand it), basically, after
upgrading Xorg or freetype or something, the permissions were wrong on
the TrueType Fonts.  So this fixes it:

#chmod 644 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
#chmod 644 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/*

So now I get to restore my bookmarks, etc... oh fun. :)

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-dev] Time with Ramereth: autoconf / automake / libtool bunnies

2005-02-01 Thread Jason Stubbs

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Subject: [gentoo-dev] Time with Ramereth: autoconf / automake / libtool 
bunnies
Date: Tuesday 01 February 2005 23:34
From: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gentoo Develop Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[some dev please forward this to gentoo-user]

it seems our new SLOT-ed ebuilds of autoconf / automake / libtool have users
confused.  'why does emerge want to install so many !?' you ask yourself
outloud.  the truth is, nothing has changed on your system, you just *think*
something is different.

the old ebuilds (autoconf-2.59-r5 / automake-1.8.5-r1 / libtool-1.5.2-r7)
actually downloaded and installed multiple versions of each package.  you
*thought* you had just one autoconf, but boy oh boy were you wrong !

in the future i'd like to make package maintainers be a little less lazy and
declare what version of autoconf / automake / libtool they wish to run in
their ebuilds so that, in the normal scheme of things, you only have the
versions installed on your system that you need ... perhaps a pipe dream, but
when you live with Ramereth, you need them :(
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Project Idea

John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
A clarification:
I'm not talking about time estimation here. What I'm talking about is
having each provider provide a minimum of two pieces of data: the
number of subtasks it will run, and the number of subtasks which
have been completed.

So more like make saying I have 33 files to compile, 13 are done?

On Tuesday 01 February 2005 02:47, Jason Cooper wrote:
John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
[snip clarification]
2) eprogressd (one for each master task, i.e. if you had an emerge and
some
other make running at the same time, they would be kept separated). the
eprogressd would run in the background and keep track of all the progress
data.

Why not a single daemon which spawns a thread for each new program, ala
sshd (although iirc sshd forks)?

I don't think I was clear here: the daemon would be started in the _user's_
name (including root, if root started it (perhaps it should drop that?)),
once each time the _user_ invokes such a command. i.e. if a user said
emerge -uvD world
emerge would start, and then it would start a progress daemon. Child processes
of emerge would use the same daemon. I don't want to make a system-wide daemon
because most systems' time is not spent with the compiler (or whatever)
running

Or maybe you understood me and I don't understand you?

I understand what you're getting at now, it just took me a second or two. :)

[snip gkrellm stuff]
[snip 05:30 Cooper being a smartass]
Also, progress information does not have to be limited to a percentage
(though
that is required). The information could contain many things, like
compiler
command lines, warnings, errors, einfos etc.

This is the line item requirement I would drive a truck through, if I
were a customer/user. :)
I think i did not properly articulate myself here either: What I meant was
that
in addition to the subtask count and subtask completion count, a client could
send lots of other data, too.

Or, again, perhaps you understand me, and I do not understand you.

Sorry, I spend a lot of time focusing in on customer vagueness and nailing
it down. If you don't nail it down, you get 15 great 'ideas' that are
'easy' to add two weeks before the delivery date, and contractually, you
would have to do it, if you didn't force them to restrict scope in the
beginning.

In short, I understood what you were saying, I was just highlighting an
area needing further clarification, albeit colorfully. :)

Please let me know what you think.

This idea has been floated many times before, with little success.
Darn.

Well, the compile time prediction idea has had little success.

Not
to rain on the idea. :) The problem is much more complicated than it
initially looks. For insight, take a look at the section in
linuxfromscratch regarding SBUs (static bash units).

http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs-museum/4.0/LFS-BOOK-4.0-HTML/chapter02/aboutsbus.html
I'm not looking to estimate the time left. I realize that that's impossible.

Not impossible. Just that the potential gains are not worth the work
involved to implement.

With the adoption of the 2.6.x kernels, it's not as critical for most
users to know how long something will take. For me personally, I never
watch the 'emerge -uDav world' process. I start it on 4 machines, get a
cup of coffee, and proceed with normal computer use. It doesn't
interfere with user interaction at all, so I don't care if it takes 2
hours or 2.5. Just let me know when it's finished.

Now that I understand you're not trying to predict compile times, it
seems much more feasible. However, I would most likely not use it
simply because it doesn't solve a problem I have. Others opinions are
certainly valid also. Is it worth pursuing? Well, if it solves a
problem _you_ have, go for it. That's all that really matters.

If you find it useful, most likely others will too.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Patrick Marquetecken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 After some investigations i found following programs what is the most
 easiest of them like dvdshrink ?
 
 Acidrip
 dvdrip
 lxdvdrip
 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:48:15 +0100 (CET)
 Patrick Marquetecken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  I have replaced my last windows machine with Gentoo, but forgot that i
  used this also for DXD ripping/copying. This machine has no X on it
  installed, i'm used to use DVDshrink because its very easy because you
  insert the dvd it compress as needed and then you choose start and the
  copy is done.
  What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
 i
  can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.

shameless plug
http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
/shameless plug

It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (100 dvds) with
it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Patrick Marquetecken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:41:34 -0500
 Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  shameless plug
  http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
  /shameless plug
  
  It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
  quality just enough to squeeze the movie onto one 4.7GB dvd-/+r at the
  highest quality possible.  I've backed up my collection (100 dvds)
 with
  it without problem.  It takes about 1.5 hours per dvd.
  
  Let me know if you have any questions.
  
  Cooper.
  
 Thats it what I'm looking for, but how do i know how much titles, audio
 and subtitles.
 And witch different language there are.

Ah... there's the one small problem.  I haven't gotten up the energy to
handle subtitles.  It's not a cut-and-dry solution.  

If you're willing to forgo subtitles, you can run 'tcprobe -i /dev/dvd'
and then pass the title number and audio track number to dvd9to5.pl with
'-t' and '-a'.  Most of the time (at least with American dvds) if you
want 5.1 audio, just './dvd9to5.pl' grabs the correct stuff.

### tcprobe sample output ###
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 en drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 en drc 48kHz 6Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 es drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) ac3 fr drc 48kHz 2Ch 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 00=en 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 01=es 
(dvd_reader.c) subtitle 02=fr 
(dvd_reader.c) DVD title 1/1: 28 chapter(s), 1 angle(s), title set 1
[cut chapter list]
#

read as:
audio english stereo (stream 0)
audio english 5.1(stream 1)
audio spanish stereo (stream 2)
audio french  stereo (stream 3)
subtitle english
subtitle spanish
subtitle french
1 or 1 titles, 28 chapters

If you figure out how to do the subtitles, let me know.  I'd be more
than happy to add it in, I just don't have the time to do it myself.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
 movie, i want the whole dang thing!

Naturally, I would agree with you.  However, If your source dvd is a
dual layer (most are) at 7.9GB, you *can't* copy it to current dvd+/-r's
as they are single layer, 4.7GB.  The quality loss is noticeable.  When
I wrote dvd9to5, I made the decision to go for quality as opposed to
quantity until such time as dual-layer burners are cheap $250/$2.  

I suspect windows apps that copy everything over are halving the
resolution, down-muxing the audio to stereo, or something similar.
Hell, most of the time the movie alone, with _no_ audio is ~4.5GB.  They
gotta make cuts somewhere.  

I think a lot of developers are holding off on investing a lot of energy
into compressing the whole dvd to 4.7GB, cause they see dual-layer
burners on the horizon.  So why not wait?  

ah, well, that's my 2cents.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Harald Arnesen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   What must i install to do this under Linux, please something easy, so
  i
   can insert a dvd and then create a copy of it.
 
  shameless plug
 
 I have used this program a lot.
 
  http://lakedaemon.netmindz.net/dvd9to5/
  /shameless plug
 
  It removes the menus, uses one stream of audio (5.1), and adjusts the
   
 
 That is my problem with the program.

See my other response in this thread for why I chose not to copy the
menus over.  It can be done, but last I checked, dvdunauthor isn't
reliable.  I need dvdunauthor to behave predictably before I can use it
for extraction.  After that, it's easy.  Any other method I've looked at
is just too convoluted to be stable.  

If anyone has had experience recently with dvdunauthor, let me know and
I'll take another look at it.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 18:56 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   any ideas? is no one in linux coping entire dvds? i dont want just the
   movie, i want the whole dang thing!
  
  Naturally, I would agree with you.  However, If your source dvd is a
  dual layer (most are) at 7.9GB, you *can't* copy it to current dvd+/-r's
  as they are single layer, 4.7GB.  The quality loss is noticeable.  When
  I wrote dvd9to5, I made the decision to go for quality as opposed to
  quantity until such time as dual-layer burners are cheap $250/$2.  
  
  I suspect windows apps that copy everything over are halving the
  resolution, down-muxing the audio to stereo, or something similar.
  Hell, most of the time the movie alone, with _no_ audio is ~4.5GB.  They
  gotta make cuts somewhere.  
  
  I think a lot of developers are holding off on investing a lot of energy
  into compressing the whole dvd to 4.7GB, cause they see dual-layer
  burners on the horizon.  So why not wait?  
 
 so this program automaticly knows what audio track to grab? cause i have
 had problems with other programs in the past (dvd x copy) taking the
 wrong track, say, french, and when i get around to watching the dvd the
 entire thing is in french. which sucks. i could live without submenus, i
 never watch them, and most of the time can do without the extras, its
 just nice to have a professional looking copy when your done.

It grabs the first audio track every time, unless you tell it otherwise.
For all the dvd's in my collection, that's english.  Don't have any
experience with overseas dvds.  

If you don't insert a blank, it'll close after extraction and give you
the command to enter to burn it.  This way you can mplayer the .mpeg
file to check for correctness before burning.

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD ripping copying

Nick Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 01:31 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:15:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
  
 im glad someone else brought this up, i have been meaning to for a
 while. i use Intervideo DVD Copy, and it makes an EXACT copy, with
 one push of a button. 

Most commercial DVDs are dual layer and won't fit on a single layer
DVD-R. To make an exact copy you need a dual layer burner and
(expensive) dual layer discs.

   the program automaticly transcodes the dvd and compresses it perfectly
   to fit on a 4.7 (actually 4.4) gig dvd, with the highest possible
   quality.
  
  OK, so it's not an EXACT copy. If you want to reduce the size of the data
  to fit 4.7GB (or 4.4 GiB if you prefer :) you have to discard something.
  You either reduce the quality of everything by a sizeable factor, or you
  discard some elements of the DVD and reduce the quality of the remainder
  by less. Programs like 9to5 take the latter approach, although an overall
  compression of the whole DVD is equally possible.
  
 care to elaborate on how its possible? and with what? i wouldnt mind
 loosing somethings if when you first put the DVD in the player that it
 looked original even if the menu items didnt play.(the movie of
 course) something besides putting in the dvd and it just starts playing.

dvdunauthor.  I would use it to extract the data off of the dvd, then
use the guts of dvd9to5 to resize the movie, then dvdauthor to remaster.
However, dvdunauthor is new and doesn't produce stable results last I
checked.

okay, dammit.  I went and looked at dvdauthor.  Latest stable is 0.5.0,
masked is 0.6.10.  I'm merging 0.6.10 now.  I suppose I'll make an
ebuild for dvd9to5 first, then tackle dvdunauthor...  nag, nag, nag :)

Not to mention I also looked at when I released 0.1.7, 06Jun2004.  It's
about time for an update. ;)

Cooper.

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[gentoo-user] firefox crash and burn

okay, ever since I tried out the Mozilla Archive Format extension for
firefox, firefox crashes with:

Segmentation fault:   $mozbin $@

(typed, not copied, since I have now unmerged firefox and am re-merging
it)

I tried to just re-merge it.  No luck.  Now thunderbird does the same
thing.  

I saved my bookmarks and wiped out /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird as well as
~/.mozilla .  Yes, I'm wholesale deleting things.  No, this is not good
:(. 

Anyone seen this and fixed it?  Google doesn't come up with anything
useful. 

TIA,

Cooper. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS support?

myang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 My kernel was compiled without NTFS filesystem support.
 Now I have a harddrive formated as NTFS, and I'd like to
 read it under linux. 
 
 I don't want to recompile the whole kernel. 
 
 What should I do? Can I compile the NTFS support as a single 
 module and load it in? How? 

You may want to back up your module tree just to be safe:

tar -cjvf ~/modules.tar.bz2 /lib/modules/`uname -r`/

Then, in the source tree you used for the currently running kernel, 
make sure you still have the .config (/usr/src/linux/.config), and run 

make menuconfig

Enable NTFS read support as a module (make sure your other
modules are still there), exit and save the config.  As long as nothing
changed in the kernel, run 

make modules_install  

NOTE: this will replace everything in your module tree for this kernel!
Make sure the only change from last compile is adding the NTFS read
module!  

After it's done, 

depmod -ae  modprobe ntfs

and you should be good to go.  

HTH,

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS support?

myang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 I have one more question. If I have no source code for my current
 installed kernel. Is it safe to comile and install the modules from the
 same version kernel?
 
 My kernel came with redhat enterprise WS, and for some reason, I just
 could not get the source code. And I'd like to just use the 2.4.18
 kernel source from kernel.org.

Do you have the .config from the kernel you currently use?  does this
show anything?

gzcat /proc/config.gz

Or maybe it was placed in boot?

ls /boot/config*

If not, you are going to be rebuilding the kernel from scratch.  Is this a
gentoo system you are on?

2.4.18 is very old, unless you are doing a very specific task which
requires it, I would suggest using the newest version available, either
2.4.29 or 2.6.10...


Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS support?

Neil Bothwick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:52:44 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
 
  Do you have the .config from the kernel you currently use?  does this
  show anything?
  
  gzcat /proc/config.gz
 
 Isn't this only available with 2.6 kernels?

Yeah, you're probably right.  However, he mentioned running on a redhat
kernel, which tends to have a lot of features from 2.6.x backported to
2.4.x...  Never hurts to check :)

Cooper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo keeps crashing during compile