[gentoo-user] Bugs in the new portage?? (I guess I have to reinstall my system) :(
Number of files: 73503 Number of files transferred: 187 Total file size: 57701810 bytes Total transferred file size: 114194 bytes Literal data: 114194 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 162 Total bytes written: 3925 I guess I'll be reinstalling my system today... I wanted to update it anyhoo as portage had changed several times and I now have a new cpu and more ram... but I find it a bit disturbing that after doing an emerge -uDv world it seemed to stop after the portage and not pick up again and when I run a new sync and emerge -puDv world I get what occurs below... Anyone else have this?? Btw to the powers that be if your reading this could it be possible to note in Announce when a package is having major changes if it's system critical packages and not just security bugs? It would be nice to be warned for a change. Because as we all know when we run emerge -uDv world it can take awhile so alot of us aren't staring at the thing so sometimes we miss the at time messages or it scrolls so fast we don't see them. PS yes I'm going to put this in bugzilla too... - Total bytes read: 1693246 wrote 3925 bytes read 1693246 bytes 45257.89 bytes/sec total size is 57701810 speedup is 34.00 Updating Portage cache... ...done! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies /Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 2513, in ? if not mydepgraph.xcreate(myaction): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 1105, in xcreate myeb=portage.portdb.xmatch(bestmatch-visible,mydep) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4673, in xmatch myval=best(self.xmatch(match-visible,None,mydep,mykey)) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 4684, in xmatch myval=match_from_list(mydep,self.xmatch(list-visible,None,mydep,mykey )) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 3531, in match_from_listraise KeyError, Specific key requires an operator (%s) (try adding an '=') % (mydep) KeyError: Specific key requires an operator (dev-libs/elfutils-0.84) (try adding an '=') bash-2.05b$ -- Susie http://members.shaw.ca/rhiannon3/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 --- There is no revenge so complete as forgiveness. - Josh Billings pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Anyone here using golem or pekwm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've switched off openbox as I know v3 has been released. I tried it didn't like it. Now I've pretty much got golem and pekwm set the way I like except for two things. For pekwm I'm wondering if there is some sort of pager around for it. So far I've not found one and I've also been unable to get wmpager or wmpc to work with it. As for golem the only issue I'm having with it is I don't see an explaination anywere of how to make it shade. I quite like the ability to double click the title bar and have things roll up on occasion. I'm busy with xmass type things and other stuff. But I've found a few more things I may make ebuilds for. There is a theme tool wmtheme that I don't see in portage masked or unmasked and a few gkrellm2 plugins that also aren't in portage but gkrellm versions of them exist that wont work with gkrellm2. Anyways if anyone has any ideas on what pager might work or how to do the shading please pass it on. I couldn't find anything on the online docs nor what was installed that would enlighten me as what to do. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Never esteem anything as of advantage to you that will make you break your word or lose your self-respect. - Marcus Aurelius Antoninus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/vufneHHYEek/DSMRAjGjAJ930CyVnjL7YCuiTrMTW3vGFCjrygCfb6ol QhsY877eIBjnwKh/vABJ3tw= =uLyG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problems with the new X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone else having problems since emerging the newest stable? I updated it and since update periodically the mouse freezes which causes me to have to kill the server. I never had this problem with the prior versions. Anyone got an idea if there is a fix out or what might be doing this? - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- The wise are instructed by reason; ordinary minds by experience; the stupid, by necessity; and brutes by instinct. - Cicero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/hbkNeHHYEek/DSMRAjBYAJ4xxnNNLtD+af49ufPX4myjXrIMTwCgjoKd ESTtdiOd4Tlya5rinrVVY8w= =GIgX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird emerge -puDv with -cups etc
I decided to stop using exim so I unmerged that and fetchmail and used rc-update del exim wich went fine. I did the same for cups and switched to pdq. As well as just plain took out openssh. Now I'm getting weird depends for things even after fixing my user flags in make.conf(I altered it to- any exim and cups) I also ran updatedb. On 'emerge -puDv world I get the following: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] net-misc/openssh-3.6.1_p2 -ipv6 -static +pam +tcpd -kerberos -selinux [ebuild N] net-mail/ssmtp-2.48 [ebuild N] net-print/cups-1.1.19-r1 +ssl -slp +pam Now then I use qpkg and what I list below is actually stuff in red: $ qpkg -q cups net-print/cups-1.1.18-r5 DEPENDED ON BY: app-emulation/wine-20030813 app-emulation/winex-transgaming-3.1 app-text/ghostscript-7.05.6-r3 kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.3-r1 net-print/cups-1.1.19-r1 DEPENDED ON BY: app-emulation/wine-20030813 app-emulation/winex-transgaming-3.1 app-text/ghostscript-7.05.6-r3 kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.3-r1 net-print/cups-1.1.19 DEPENDED ON BY: app-emulation/wine-20030813 app-emulation/winex-transgaming-3.1 app-text/ghostscript-7.05.6-r3 kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.3-r1 - Things that list in yellow: $ qpkg -q ssmtp net-mail/ssmtp-2.48 DEPENDED ON BY: net-mail/ssmtp-2.38.14-r1 DEPENDED ON BY: net-mail/ssmtp-2.60.3 DEPENDED ON BY: --- $ qpkg -q openssh net-misc/openssh-3.6.1_p2-r1 DEPENDED ON BY: net-misc/openssh-3.6.1_p2-r2 DEPENDED ON BY: net-misc/openssh-3.5_p1-r1 DEPENDED ON BY: net-misc/openssh-3.6.1_p2-r3 DEPENDED ON BY: net-misc/openssh-3.6.1_p2 DEPENDED ON BY: --- Now after changing the make USE flags like I mentioned for exim and cups... Then 'emerge -C' of the packages complaining(plus kdeutils as I figured thats why kdelibs complained as there is something printer related in kdeutils). After that recompiling wine, transgaming, kdeutils, and xpdf(which grabs ghostscript). However as you can see that didn't help. So how do I get it to stop requesting cups, openssh, ans ssmtp? Is there a myconf somewhere? or is perhaps an issue up with virtuals or depends for some builds? Thanks oh and also I noticed the occasional build which is masked but only by keywords. That some refuse to build when unmasked unless you include the ebuild instead of the package name. Some still wont build. I tried to build sylpheed 0.9.5.-r1 but it wouldn't let me so I'm using 0.9.5...(only thing I notice is my gpg seems to be missing and my sig so I guess I'll have to figure out what happened to that in the version switch as I didn't alter anything) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:32:24 -0600 Shane Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers. I'm running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy. The only reason I was running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs and the google, freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the heck you call those). I'm running openbox and xfce4. The two browsers I used are firebird and opera. But if your having issues with mozilla firebird would be pointless as it is a branch of mozilla. Opera 7.11 is good tho I believe it's masked. Also if you want something more simple and don't care on plugins get Links which is like lynx but can run in graphical mode. It does render tables, images, etc in graphic mode and I think also works fine with java but more complex plugins like flash will not work with it. In text mode it doesn't render images but does do tables and other things.(links does use svgalib depending on your options on compile but I think it is the default on). With opera it tabs, it has popup blocking, it runs all the well known plugins.(anything moz or netscape varients will run), it has a search box or you can use a letter switch and comment in the url field and it will search via that. If you could run a mozilla varient search wise I'd recommend mycroft addon. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. - - Franklin D. Roosevelt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/HC3leHHYEek/DSMRArmSAKCYj7qKk58ULgS63i3PXf2yTQ6lNwCgldr2 KN4k3m0Zb/L8vpgz1o9Vw6c= =6lsy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weirdness with new firebird ebuild
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok I thought this would resolve lastnight but it seems to of only got worse as time went on. At first I recieved the quicktime block only. Then next time I synced I got the xfree block... Check this out: Updating Portage cache... ...done! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1) [ebuildU ] net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.6-r6 [0.6-r5] +java +gtk2 - -ipv6 [blocks B] =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 (from pkg x11-libs/xft-2.0.1-r2) [ebuildU ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69-r1 [5.69] Ok anyone else getting it doing this? Anyone know if an official bug has been posted? Thanks. Below you can see what I do have installed.(so I really don't get why I'm getting this error) * media-libs/quicktime4linux Latest version available: 1.5.5-r1 Latest version installed: 1.5.5-r1 Size of downloaded files: 2,060 kB Homepage:http://heroinewarrior.com/quicktime.php3 Description: quicktime library for linux * media-libs/libquicktime Latest version available: 0.9.2_pre1 Latest version installed: 0.9.2_pre1 Size of downloaded files: 644 kB Homepage:http://libquicktime.sourceforge.net/ Description: A library based on quicktime4linux with extensions * x11-base/xfree Latest version available: 4.3.0-r2 Latest version installed: 4.3.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 70,839 kB Homepage:http://www.xfree.org Description: Xfree86: famous and free X server * x11-base/xfree-drm Latest version available: 4.3.0-r2 Latest version installed: 4.3.0-r2 Size of downloaded files: 219 kB Homepage:http://www.xfree.org Description: Xfree86 Kernel DRM modules - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. - - Franklin D. Roosevelt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Gta9eHHYEek/DSMRAkDXAJ4lyERC2NUGmw3/Mzwce6BHYvfgVwCgmJ/5 3RCpVsQmrS1PUV88QKUSqCQ= =ZVpf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question on openbox3/Xfce4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone know if an ebuild for this is in the works? I was surfing the other day and realized version 3 is out. I'd try to make an ebuild myself but I don't know the particulars of working with eclass commonbox(or I'd of made an ebuild for hacked box already). Oh and on a diffrent window manager topic... is there something to dock windowmaker apps in xfce4? If so how do I do it? Thanks - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. - - Franklin D. Roosevelt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/G0FVeHHYEek/DSMRAshBAKCTVRg4ofpcSw1XJu05V9o/rvk5qQCfYft1 72kRJvzGs9cFBBSiicott5I= =L3TT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weird emerge error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been getting off and on(ok might of been constant not been paying that close of attention) a single error after emerge -uD world. So when I saw there was an update today I added the -v swtich. This was the error I got: Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... Auto-cleaning packages ... No outdated packages were found on your system. * Regenerating GNU info directory index... install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash' * Processed 81 info files; 1 errors. Any idea why it has that particular error? and any idea how I get arid of that error? Thanks in advance. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. - - Franklin D. Roosevelt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/GamPeHHYEek/DSMRAmFDAJ43tDIrEc3wvy5LEHcneGH4mceMmACdHSPh k6BpAbiAwsZKfewEgOvj6gY= =3IyG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird emerge error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:21:44 -0400 Tom Allison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this too, right before things broke. Hmm I hope mine doesn't break. I briefly messed up bash at one point when I altered my paths in /etc/profile oddly copying over the same file from my other machine and changing the path again made the problems disappear.(must of been a stray space/return somewhere I didn't see in the file that messed things up) Are you using the unstable option ~86 ? If so, don't, at least not for today. Nope. I only have a few things where I've unmasked them. Most of my packages installed are known stables. I just found this error odd and I figure it must of been the same thing that was the error prior(only I didn't have verbose turned on so can't be 100% sure of that). One of my friends who also runs gentoo has been getting a single error. I've not has a chance to ask him if when he used verbose if the error was the same thing as mine. IRC mentions some problems with the portage today and I'm not clear on what the problems are, but I had to rescue portage, update portage and now update world because I was using ~86. I'm hoping I don't have to go through all that. Things seem to be ok. I just get that error when updating things lately. I did have to recompile mplayer but I think that might of been the gcc change or something. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. - - Franklin D. Roosevelt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Gbl3eHHYEek/DSMRAg6gAKCKELUpUMl3VGHdeft2NqmWjWceqACfWWFM AbjmavttrlpkouHDGD4q+f8= =fvWj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird error after sync
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone else getting this: Updating Portage cache... ...done! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies \ !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =media-libs/libsndfile-1.0.1 have been masked. !!!(dependency required by media-libs/faad2-1.1 [ebuild]) !!! Problem with ebuild net-www/mplayerplug-in-0.80 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. I have libsndfile 1.0.5 installed and I have faad2 1.1 installed ... so weird error. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- The monument of a great man is not of granite or marble or bronze. It consists of his goodness, his deeds, his love and his compassion. - Alfred A. Montapert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Fb0reHHYEek/DSMRAskYAJoC7h9h54pSQUcxgOkZWr1WtWT0YACeP655 WWDt/OvmYbXckhjQ8E91Cr4= =ZM/J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo in a p100[?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Gëzim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a p100 machine with 16mb ram, I was thinking of installing either gentoo or debian [and try to use it only as a web server]. The reason I kind of wanna install debian in it is that it won't have to do alot of compiling with debian whereas gentoo lots... Which one should I install? I've got gentoo on a p100 with 64M ram and a 6G drive. It runs just fine tho X is being tempermental(it wont load for whatever reason... not that that is a big deal as it's a server box). Depending on what your putting on there it can take awhile. Qt takes about a day... but in general I think it took 3 days to get the install done. I'm personally trying to decide if I should freebsd my sons computer or gentoo it. It may well end up on gentoo because it is leaner afik. My sons machine is an amd k2/6 with 128M ram and only a 2G 400M drives.(well for now til I upgrade something and give him a diffrent drive) - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Sanity - that which is within the frame of reference of conventional thought. - Erich Fromm -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/EOVCeHHYEek/DSMRAniAAJ4ul8idUF3m9VAkEeB4tPVfzCuu/QCfWNIE 0Bge4u7IDUl3Ua/GU+nnqEs= =BF+A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] weird emerge sync error
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm getting this after I sync. I'm wondering why. Recient updates I put in was I made gimp go to 1.2.5 from 1.2.4 and cups updated. This is the error I'm getting: wrote 769 bytes read 1150963 bytes 8026.01 bytes/sec total size is 39986313 speedup is 34.72 Updating Portage cache... |!!! eclass 'GPL-2' in 'GPL-2' does not exist:...done! - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- I am prepared to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter. - Sir Winston Churchill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/BJM9eHHYEek/DSMRAmWeAJ0cJpSMK91sgtxlgK4/f5KtWpPxPgCfS3cV Z6qW0CUg6fg4Fmp5oCuBfFA= =hTrv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 00:55:47 -0700 Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Known issue. use `emerge --sync` for the time being. The solution is being worked on. Unfortunately that still doesn't work as same error pops up. I've tried emerge sync emerge rsync and emerge --sync all same results. I take it a bunch of files are corrupted on the servers or something. So at least in my case I'm leaving a new sync alone til morning. Hopefully it will be fixed by then. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- Sometimes a scream is better than a thesis. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/AULceHHYEek/DSMRAt8oAJ48uzMpV1slI18I98IgoUTV/vMWcwCfck1O 787i+hdXAnqb3QVIwz6s34s= =TY9g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] best way to stop setiathome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 20:44:05 + (DST) Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I'd like to know what the best way is to safely stop the setiathome application. Because I can kill it very easily... but very often some locks is not removed .. hence the next time I start it up..it thinks another instance is still active and I often have to end up removing all the .sah files and starting from scratch. Any ideas? Thx, Simon I use gkrellm and the seti 7 plugin (x11-plugins/gkrellm-seti) and with a click of the mouse it stops or starts gkrellm. Not sure if thats what your looking for. If your talking console I saw someone elses suggestion to send stop to it in init.d. - -- Susie http://arienadean.tripod.com/ Digitally signed GPG Key ID: E93F0D23 Key fingerprint = 33F8 0E9D 3AD1 23E0 C70F ECC6 7871 D811 E93F 0D23 - --- The spirit in which a thing is given determines that in which the debt is acknowledged; it's the intention, not the face-value of the gift, that's weighed. - Seneca -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/AjKReHHYEek/DSMRAgVbAKCFsRACJnsHZAYWhuKS9OuxYdp+ZwCeLilB t9guL1OTYyJQP0PusG1PrlE= =EsGT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Having a problem with bash since last sync/emerge -uD world
/sbin/etc-update for example when using sudo.
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$ echo $PATH
/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/kde/3.1/bin:/usr/opt/bin:/usr/games
/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-
bin/3.2:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-
1.4.1/jre/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/kde/3.1/bin:/usr/kde/3.1/bin:/usr/game
s/bin:/home/my user id/bin:/usr:/opt:/sbin://home/my user
id/rename://home/my user id/setiathome
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/etc/skel/.bash_profile (this is the system wide file)
# /etc/skel/.bash_profile:
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bash_profile,v
# 1.10 2002/11/18 19:39:22 azarah Exp $
#This file is sourced by bash when you log in interactively.
[ -f ~/.bashrc ] . ~/.bashrc
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/etc/skel/.bashrc (again this is a system wide file)
# /etc/skel/.bashrc:
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
# 2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $
# This file is sourced by all *interactive* bash shells on startup. This
#
# file *should generate no output* or it will break the scp and rcp
# commands.
# colors for ls, etc.
eval `dircolors -b /etc/DIR_COLORS`
alias d=ls --color
alias ls=ls --color=auto
alias ll=ls --color -l
# Change the window title of X terminals
case $TERM in
xterm*|rxvt|Eterm|eterm)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne
\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:${PWD/$HOME/~}\007'
;;
screen)
PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:${PWD/$HOME/~}\033\\'
;;
esac
##uncomment the following to activate bash-completion:
#[ -f /etc/profile.d/bash-completion ] source
#/etc/profile.d/bash-completion
Anyways any help on the above would be much appreciated. Thanks
everyone.
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[gentoo-user] Stable Gentoo.org seems to be having problems
I got a server 500 error trying to go there and it comments on it being a java failure in the server. Here is a snippet: root cause javax.servlet.ServletException: Communication link failure: java.net.SocketException The output was quite long. Don't know if I should bother attaching it but if the maintainer is lurking about just so he's aware he should check his site and any of us that visit there you might also find it down. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lame LBreakout2 question...
On Sat, 05 Apr 2003 16:10:42 -0800 Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does the right arrow -- that flashes on the lower right hand side of the LBreakout2 screen mean? It means you can warp to the next level by hitting w... in the settings you can tell it what the minimum amount of blocks percentage wise must be removed before you can warp up a level. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xfree 4.3.0-r1
I was wondering are there any plans in the future to list the keyboard updates as trivial updates? I ask as there were alot of them when it came to etc-update time. From the looks of them they probably could of been emerged as trivial updates perhaps.shrug I just figure if they were listed as such it might spare everyone from having to update 71 files(which is the number I had to after the trivial updates did their things)... Btw xfree 4.3 rocks except for whatever reason crack attack no longer works and that is despite me trying a remerge and unmerge/emerge to try to get it to work again. :/ -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question on Portage
Why is there 2 of pretty much every ebuild? I ask as I noticed awhile back there seems to be ebuilds in both /var/db/pkg/ and /usr/portage/ Isn't that redundant? Don't we need just one copy of an ebuild per package? I'm just curious why... Anyways other than that why even with my frequent rsyncs do I have some fairly old ebuilds in there? I can see the testing/new being masked being in the tree and the current stables being in the tree but why are some fairly old versions in the tree? -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Web-frontend for portage?
On Thu, 03 Apr 2003 18:44:38 +0200 Timo Boettcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! is there some web-frontend for portage? Where one could see which packets are in which versions in portage, what is new/dropped? I don't know about web front end but if you go to gentoo.org in the nav bar on the right you'll see a link to an online package database. Also there is stable.gentoo.org which if you go there you'll see new packages and unstables/testing packages along with the stables.(the online database off the main gentoo site strictly shows current stables). Other than that there is something called kportage. I've not tried it but thought about it. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge portage error
I just got this: Updating Portage cache... ...done! These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies \ !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy dev-python/python-fchksum have been masked.!!!(dependency required by sys-apps/portage-2.0.47-r10 [ebuild]) !!! Problem with ebuild sys-apps/man-pages-1.56 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. Anyone else run into this tonight? Any ideas on what to do about it? :/ -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] qpkg and virtuals
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 23:53:09 -0500 Jeff Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that 'qpkg -q foo' doesn't pick up packages that rely on foo to satisfy a virtual dependency. It's easy enough to tell that foo is filling some virtual role, by /var/cache/edb/virtuals, but is there a way to check whether there are still programs installed that require that virtual dependency to be filled? Jeff I'm not sure but you could always run dep-clean -UNv and that should give you the needed and unneeded. -R will also show you what has been removed. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 11:49:01 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe also use the -i option on the old version so portage thinks it's installed. Thats what I ended up doing as I already had =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 in the world file and it didn't do me any good. So I used emerge -i on the old version after doing an rsync following installing the newer version. I also uninstalled gkrellm2 and similarly used the -i switch for that.(as I perfer the earlier version in that case) I just find it odd that more than once now I've tried to anchor something in the world file and it doesn't seem to work. Tho it does seem to leave alone experimental/new packages for which there is no unmasked version at all. With the openbox issue it gets weird tho because other than doc files when watching the install the binary et al goes to same directories implying it's overwriting any other files by same name. So even if you do have both versions in only the 2 sets of doc files would be seperated and whatever version you installed last that would be the one with the current binary by that name in there. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but among those whom I love, I can. All of them make me laugh. - W.H. Auden -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:50:56 +0200 Alexander Futasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you talking about? I unmasked openbox-2.3.0 in it's ebuild. Then emerged it. I then put into my world file =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 to prevent it from removing that version(ie downgrading). But despite that it fetched openbox-2.1.3-r4. Now if you look in the changelog for openbox the 2.3.0 is simply masked for those that don't use xft2. I have xft2 installed so not a problem. When I installed version 2.3.0 I had uninstalled 2.1.3-r4. But then later did an emerge rsync emerge -puD world(aka --pretend --update --deep). Then it insisted on the earlier version overwriting the openbox in /usr/bin(as it isn't attaching version numbers to the executable). I want it to stop doing that.sigh I suppose my only option at this point is to leave both in and unmask the 2.3.0 again and have it overwrite the earlier version. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- If we do not find anything very pleasant, at least we shall find something new. - Voltaire -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 10:01:38 -0700 Daniel Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emerge -pUD world Nope unfortunately. That still makes it fetch it. :( I don't want to turn on accept for all ~x86 only specific ones which is why I unmask in keywords in builds. So I think I'll install the earlier version of openbox and then let the newer overwrite it and that should stop it from complaining. I wish they'd version number the executables that way nothing would get over wrote and people that want more than one version would have that option. Right now I've had the opposite problem with another program and gave up on it as well. I like gkrellm more than gkrellm2 and I've emerged it's specific plugins and even anchored it in the world file. However it keeps fetching the newer version. So I've given up and left it in my system but just don't use it. So far all other programs I've anchored in the world file that are diffrent than the stable versions out work just fine. It's simply those two. Only other problem is for the newer sane frontends/backends their dependancies aren't being done right or something. If I do a dep-clean or a -p deplcean both show it as stuff that should come out.(actually I filed a bug report on the dep-clean script as it also listed other things I had anchored in the world file whereas depclean didn't do that) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. - Jules de Gaultier -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/PDEPEND /var/db/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/PF /var/db/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/PROVIDE /var/db/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/RDEPEND /var/db/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/SLOT /var/db/pkg/x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0/USE Doing a man openbox shows me the manpage for 2.3.0... and from what I can tell one executable overwrote the other(whichever one was last installed). -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The way I see it, if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain. - Dolly Parton -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:05:52 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that does it for that one instance. nope unfortunately it on an update it wants the lower version again... So I'll leave both installed with the 2.3.0 going in last... :/ -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Who dares to teach must never cease to learn. - John Cotton Dana -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:16:39 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: should there not be an entry in saned.conf usb 0x03f0 0x0901 Nope not from what I can tell. Saned is purely if I'm using my scanner on the network. However I don't want my son messing with my scanner and he's on windows anyways.(tho he wants linux *g* .. not a big enough hd on it for duelboot I'm afraid...) saned.conf from the comments inside it and the man page wants ip's that are ok access to the scanner and I also must have net uncommented in the dll.conf. I've emailed hp and asked them if the 2300c is using same chipset as the 2100c/2200c or if it's using the same as the 3500c. If it's using the 3500c's chip(which it could be as my manual also covers that model) that might pose a problem. It uses a realtek chipset which they list on the sane page. However as far as I can tell no backend is up for it. My kernel does see the scanner it's just sane doesn't. :/ But eh at least the kernel see's it now.(weird that the 2.4.21 patch messes up usb) I also unmasked and am using the latest sane-frontends, sane-backends, and xsane. Unfortunately it's just not working. I also went through the dll.conf and stuck comments in as to what type of scanners the drivers cover(ie usb, scsi, paraport, etc). Going through it one by one. Somethings got to work if not I guess I'll wait til newer versions come out and reboot to scan. :P -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public. -Bryan White -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:36:36 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think /etc/sane.d/saned.conf is used for non-network also. I have an old Microtek that is attached directly to my Gentoo box and I have to put the entry in saned.conf or it doesn't work. Mine is a SCSI and I entered the vendor and model. I tried that and it didn't work. Some using microtek seem to have the same chipset and it gets id and vision or something. I'm trying a new approach. I'm messing with the windows cab looking for hints. I've got this far tho: $ scanimage -L device `artec_eplus48u:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a Artec E+ 48U USB flatbed scanner That was fiddling with that specific conf file and giving it the vendor/product id. However it requires the windows firmware driver. I tried usbscan.sys but that hasn't worked. I'm not sure what file I should be looking for. I looked on my windows install cd and read the ini, etc. So I'm hoping I'll find something to work. If not I just scan in windows for the time being. It seems tho hp is very reluctant to give out info and they wouldn't give me the chipset info in email only via calling customer care which I'm not going to bother with. Partially as they point out they don't support non windows/mac OS. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- There is only one sound method of moral education. It is teaching people to think. - Everett Dean Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anyone got an artec e+ firmware file? or
a 2300c scanjet one?(I have a usbscan.sys file but that doesn't work so far) With it I *might* be able to get the 2300c hp scanjet working as it did id it when I fed it the vender/id code but it requires the firmware *.usb file to work. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Nothing that results from human progress is achieved with unanimous consent. And those who are enlightened before the others are condemned to pursue that light in spite of others. - Christopher Columbus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] openbox-2.3.0
How do I get it to install it after I unmask it in keywords and not have it fetch the earlier stable version? I'd like to use this newer one instead of the older. Only reason I can see why it was masked(in the changelog) was that it required xft 2x which I have installed. In my world file I did set it as an =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 but that didn't help. I also found with things I had set to = it also wanted to downgrade them on next rsync and -puD world. So I reset them to = and that seems to of stopped it. I'm wondering if the -U would make any diffrence if I have =x11-wm/openbox-2.3.0 in world. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question on using selectwm
There are a bunch of apps I like to launch at startup many of thease will work in various window managers(wm dock apps... such as wmitime). But some wont like bbpager. I have openbox, xfce, and icewm installed. If I'm using selectwm to choose my window manager in .xinitrc is there some way that I can get it to load various progs when it starts a specific one? ie load bbpager for only openbox but all the other dock apps for the other 2 window managers? -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow. Don't walk behind me, I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend. - Albert Camus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
Ok I found my problem. I have the 2.4.21-pre6 patch and after talking to the maintainer of the scanner patch he said maybe my usb wasn't on. Well doi me didn't notice my cam light was off(it's usb). Low and behold the kernel isn't loading the two usb drivers which I have built in. So if anyone else using this patch has noticed some wonkyness that is it. My scanner will likely work fine once they fix the usb loading issue. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
An update. It's found it with the kernel after copying over the patched files to a fresh 2.4.20 tree however now comes to the problem of getting sane to see it. Sane notices the driver and says it found a scanner but scanimage -L returns nothing. Trying the plustek.conf does nothing same with hp. Anyone else got any ideas/suggestions? -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will. - Gandhi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:05:54 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you hve the correct info for your scanner in /etc/modules.autoload? Mine (a different scanner) looks like this scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x011e I have mine built into the kernel. So that's not the problem. The problem is figuring out what sane back end is applicable(as the plustek one seems useless) or how exactly to config sane for a usb scanner with built in support in the kernel. My dmesg output has this in it: usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner scanner.c: 0.4.11:USB Scanner Driver I also get this trying to find the scanner: # sane-find-scanner # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make sure that # you have loaded a SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter. found USB scanner (vendor=0x03f0, product=0x0901) at /dev/usb/scanner0 # Your USB scanner was detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. then doing scanimage -L returns nothing it just hangs or if I shorten the list of dll.conf it says not found.(shorten it as in the only entries are hp and plustek. My scanner is in /dev/usb/scanner0 so I tried altering files for that. Next step is tomorrow I'll go through each backend one by one altering the device for the usb ones to aim at mine. Then seeing if it finally finds it. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- I'm a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will. - Antonio Gramsci -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unmerged python.. ack
Look in the ebuild for where to get the tarball and compile it normally without emerge. After it's compiled and installed then reemerge it. At least thats my guess. I've not had this problem. On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:39:24 -0500 Will Buckner (Wcc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I accidentally unmerged python, and now I can't re-merge it, since emerge uses python. How can I fix this? -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable. - Helen Keller -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Corrupted ebuilds in Portage?
I'm part of the portage group, wheel, et al yet I still get like messages when doing a search sometimes. Usually I rsync again after and the ones it complained on weren't things that would of matched my search anyways. On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:46:15 +0100 Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TG Yup. However, if I issue the command as root I don't get the TG errors. I'm guessing a permission is set wrong somewhere. You have to be root or in the portage group. Then you won't get the message anymore. Try, for example, to run it with sudo like the first command. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public. -Bryan White -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:43:09 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us know how it turns out once you've decided to apply the patch. I've been looking to pick up an inexpensive scanner, if this one can be made to work then that would be great.. The patch by looks of it should support it via the kernels generic scanner setting. Unfortunately tho it says there is a scanner there it hasn't identified the driver for it. So I've mailed the guy that maintains the scanner patch about it. I'm hoping I can get this to work in nix vs having to reboot just to scan. It looks to be a decient little scanner. I tried setting the plustek.conf in sane and the hp.conf. The book that came with it is actually applicable to the 3500c as well. So perhaps whatever works with the 3500c should work with it.shrug Either way whatever driver is supposed to be there isn't working. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. - Giordano Bruno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
Hi. I see by the mandrake hardware database that apprently they got this scanner to run. I've just bought one but can't figure out how to get it going. I thought it might take the plustek sane backend but no luck. I've enabled all 3 scanner settings and paraport in the kernel as modules, etc. Anyone got this particular scanner? How do I get it going? It's listed as a grey or not much known about in the sane database. However obviously something works with it if mandrake lists it as something that appears to be functioning/known hardware. Thanks. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Who dares to teach must never cease to learn. - John Cotton Dana -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP scanjet 2300c
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:25:08 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to mustang.com/sane the 2300c is not supported (unknown chip-set) There are countless querries re this scanner but I've not seen any success post. Some are getting some results using a plustek driver but limited. Thanks. I've actully found a kernel patch but for now I've tried recompiling the kernel with some options changed and somethings changed in modules.conf For anyone else with this scanner take a look at this(it adds support for 2300c and a few other things): http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/usb/2.4/usb-scanner-3-2.4.21-pre3.patch -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Peace is to be found only within, and unless one finds it there he will never find it at all. Peace lies not in the external world. It lies within one's own soul. - Ralph W. Trine -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] XftConfig
I've installed artwiz fonts, freefonts, jmk fonts. I was wondering what should be in my XftConfig file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig I manually added the directories at the top and a few others that seemed to not be in the file(Util, 75dpi, 100dpi, and Speedo). But X is still not finding them. I'm also unsure as what to put in the match any family == edit argument = ; I'm very much a newbie at messing with fonts. I had used mandrake and redhat before and they had fonts show up automatically via whatever means. I've not found anything with the font builds themselves that really says what I'm to do. I have gone to the artwiz font site and I did do xset +pf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz as well as a mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts Then an xlsfonts which does list them there. However things like gimp don't seem to be able to see the new fonts.sigh Any help on this would be much appreciated. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Experience is never limited, and it is never complete; it is an immense sensibility, a kind of huge spider-web of the finest silken threads suspended in the chamber of consciousness, and catching every air-borne particle in its tissue. - Henry James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for a linux supported DualCam
Try thease pages for help: http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ - variety of info (drivers, software, howto, etc) http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/cameras.html - lists supported cameras ov511 and their status http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/which.html http://webcam.sourceforge.net/#cams http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/quickcam/ On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 04:13:46 -0500 Cedric Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want a webcam that can do normal video recording you'd expect from a webcam as well as taking still images without being connected to the PC like a digicam would do. So far I've looked into Creative Lab's PC-CAM series as well as Logitech Click-Smart series. They have exactly the features I want but I don't think they are fully supported in linux. http://www.americas.creative.com/products/product.asp?maincategory=6category=447product=460 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/detailsCRID=4CONTENTID=5034countryid=2languageid=1 Anybody knows about a webcam that can be used as a basic digicam and that is supported in linux? I would love to know. I have a creative webcam plus and it also uses cmos. The picture quality could be better and it also has an artifact which appeared on my cam and at least one other persons. So beware that model your looking at could have the same issues.(re the creative labs one) I see the other uses cmos as well. There are other cameras like thease afik that do support ccd and they may provide a better picture. With corrective measures taken to deal with the artifact et al this is what a pic from my cam looks like(this was under a varient of the xawtv webcam app and I've now switched to came and yes thats me in the pic): http://members.shaw.ca/arienadean/current-pic.jpg -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. - Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package dependencies?
If you don't already have gentools installed emerge it. Then qkpg -Idqv gnome then repeat subing kde and xfree for gnome. Another way is to run the dep-clean script: dep-clean -Nv From the man pages: dep-clean - Shows unrequired packages and missing dependencies. -N, --needed Display needed packages that are not installed. (red) (default) -v, --verbose Be more verbose. qpkg - the query package tool for Gentoo Linux -I, --installed Include only installed packages -d, --dups print packages that have multiple versions installed -q, --query-depsdisplay all installed packages depending on selected packages -v, --verbose Be more verbose [2 levels] On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:23:53 -0500 Will Buckner (Wcc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to get a list of all packages with unsatasfied dependencies? I unmerged X, kde, and gnome... I have a huge package dependency mess now, and emerge --update world wants to remerge a bunch of X packages. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- You see things and you say Why? But I dream things that never were; and I say Why not? - George Bernard Shaw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: help! wmaker
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:25:00 -0600 peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suzie; you're a lifesaver; the launch worked just fine; do i have to restart x to get the icon back [so i can lock it?]; peter I'm not sure if that will bring it back. You could also make a new icon for it. Which you might have to do if it wasn't locked and got deleted by accident. There is another way to bring it back too but you'd have to redo all your prefs or back them up in another directory. You could delete your GNUstep directory in /home/user id and it will just create a new one on next launch of WindowMaker. One other thing I just found tho on looking through it is it seems to create backup files. Here's what maine has in the ~/GNUstep/Defaults $ ls -a . WMGLOBALWMRootMenu.bak WMWindowAttributes WindowMaker .. WMRootMenu WMState WPrefs WindowMaker.bak The WPrefs above is a directory. Then if you go to ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker you find: $ ls -a . Themes menu.es menu.nl menu.zh_CN plmenu.it .. autostart menu.fi menu.no menu.zh_TW.Big5 plmenu.ja Backgroundsexitscript menu.fr menu.pl plmenu plmenu.ko IconSets menumenu.gl menu.pt plmenu.bgplmenu.pl Pixmapsmenu.bg menu.he menu.ro plmenu.daplmenu.ro README menu.ca menu.hr menu.ru plmenu.deplmenu.sk README.themes menu.cz menu.hu menu.se plmenu.eswmmacros SoundSets menu.da menu.it menu.sk plmenu.fi Sounds menu.de menu.ja menu.sl plmenu.fr Styles menu.el menu.ko menu.tr plmenu.hr Goodluck and I hope this helps. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Laughter is the shortest distance between two people. - Uknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lcms-1.09.tar.gz is corrupt or incomplete - emergekde
I think some files aren't in the system that should be or somethings wrong with the builds. I'm getting pretty much the same error on trying to update povray. I have deleted the file from /usr/portage/distfiles and tried again (several times repeating this because if anything else wants to upgrade I have to manually do it til this is fixed). Anyways I've given up for today figuring they'll realize a few of the files are messed up. One time the depends were messed up for the odd thing but they fixed those later. What is happening as far as I can tell is simply the new package sizes are larger and they differ from the packages listed. There fore it sees them corrupt or compromised. They may well be fine but they wont build. :/ On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:39:19 -0600 Carl Mecum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all. I am working on my first Gentoo install and am at the point of installing KDE. After about 10 seconds I get the messages lcms-1.09.tar.gz is corrupt or incomplete. See below for the emerge transcript. I have tried: emerge u system; emerge rsync and retried KDE with the same results. Can someone point me in the right direction? Also, is there an archive of the mailing list somewhere? I would have searched for answers there first. Best regards Carl gentoo root # emerge kde Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 81) media-libs/lcms-1.09 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu//distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz --20:21:23-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu//distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz = `/usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz' Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... done. Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 181,083 [application/x-tar] 100%[] 181,083 25.86K/s ETA 00:00 20:21:30 (25.86 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz' saved [181083/181083] Resuming download... Downloading http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz --20:21:30-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz = `/usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz' Resolving distro.ibiblio.org... done. Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org[152.2.210.109]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable The file is already fully retrieved; nothing to do. Resuming download... Downloading http://www.littlecms.com/lcms-1.09.tar.gz --20:21:30-- http://www.littlecms.com/lcms-1.09.tar.gz = `/usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz' Resolving www.littlecms.com... done. Connecting to www.littlecms.com[212.87.192.33]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content Length: 192,593 (11,510 to go) [application/x-gzip] 100%[] 192,593 17.59K/s ETA 00:00 20:21:32 (17.59 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz' saved [192593/192593] !!! lcms-1.09.tar.gz: message digests do not match! !!! lcms-1.09.tar.gz is corrupt or incomplete. our recorded digest: 8e8e2303351f3c7de335f02196820a4e your file's digest: 7fb8751ebacbb9ac06421341ed892573 Please delete /usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz and refetch. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Experience is never limited, and it is never complete; it is an immense sensibility, a kind of huge spider-web of the finest silken threads suspended in the chamber of consciousness, and catching every air-borne particle in its tissue. - Henry James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lcms-1.09.tar.gz is corrupt or incomplete - emergekde
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:40:58 -0800 Doug Gorley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you follow the instructions from the error message? Please delete /usr/portage/distfiles/lcms-1.09.tar.gz and refetch. That had ought to do it. I did but I got the same error pretty much for the upgrade of povray. I tried deleting and remerging and just fetching(then looked at what it said the file size should be doing an emerge -s povray). The file sizes don't match. So either their is an error in the build or someone has to update the file on the server.shrug Might be the same problem the other persons seeing tho diffrent file. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. - Unknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lcms-1.09.tar.gz is corrupt or incomplete - emergekde
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 00:05:04 -0300 Marcos Hiroshi Umino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try downloading the file via FTP (instead of letting wget or prozilla download it) them check the sfv (or simply try emerging povray at this point). Thanks that worked. I found the ftp from inside the ebuild and fetched the file. I've not had this problem before with any of the other files downloaded/upgraded. But I've been having issues with my isp dropping packets and such so who knows whats going on there.(I have complained and they still haven't fixed it and actually their dns went out for awhile) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Font Question
I've installed some fonts. Artwiz and a few others I found in portage. When I run gimp it doesn't see anything other than the default fonts. I was wondering how I change that? Also I tried to run xftlsfonts but it claims openbox wasn't compiled with xft. How do I turn that on? Thanks I'm used to having more fonts to play with in gimp et al and I'm making 2 webpages.(one for my son and one for his friend) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others. - The Wizard of Oz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Font Question
Ok all my fonts when making logos etc look ick. I take it it is from openbox not being compiled with xft. I read the ebuild for the latest stable version and found the comment curious: *openbox-2.2.3 (02 Jan 2003) 02 Jan 2003; Matt Keadle [EMAIL PROTECTED] openbox-2.2.3.ebuild files/digest-openbox-2.2.3 Bump to latest version. 2.2.3 takes the 2.2.x series out of testing to make room for the 3.x branch. This release has officially been declared stable, and has been moved into unmasked x86 territory. However in the ebuild for 2.2.3 it is masked for x86. The version I have installed is 2.1.3-r4. So I've unmasked 2.2.3 and will install that. I was wondering has anyone tried 2.3.0? I'm using a 1GHz T-bird and do see it is also masked for x86 but considered pretty much stable but depends on Xft2. Off I go now to compile the newer version of commonbox with hopes it will fix my font appearance weirdness. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] stable.gentoo.org was: Gentoo package reviews
I just noticed. Some seem to list 1 review but have nothing. Just thought I'd mention that. I'm leaving comments on the ones I've tried so far. :) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will. - Gandhi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage package see-sawing
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:51:18 + MAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After patching, emerge -pu --deep world still wanted to downgrade shared-mime-info to 0.7, so I let it do that... then it wanted to upgrade again :/ Upgraded again, and we're back to square 1.. wanting downgrade. Any other ideas? MAL I've had that happen a few times in past. You either just have to wait for the mirrors to finally get in sync with eachother or you have to use the -U flag or finally you can do an emerge -pud world then manually -u the applicable packages avoiding the ones that wish to UD. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The most effective way to cope with change is to help create it. - L. W. Lynett -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Aaargh! Lopster is very buggy...
I use limewire normally and it's great. The new ebuild isn't in portage yet but you can get it at bugzilla. I've used limewire in both windows and linux in the past. I tried qtella and the odd other tho they seemed nice they just never could connect or kept loosing connects. I've never had that issue with limewire which is why I requested it(I hope it gets into portage soon as I'm undecided on using ebuilds that aren't in it yet). It is a java client btw. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14135 On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:48:21 +0100 Thomas Preissler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, what's yours opinion about lopster? It is impossible for me, that lopster is running *without* a crash. Most of the time I get segfaults, sometimes bus error and so on. I just upgraded to the latest gentoo unstable - 1.2.0. But - I have the same errors :-(( My computer is working fine, of course. No compile errors or such other things ;-)) Which P2P-clients do you use? Greets, Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but among those whom I love, I can. All of them make me laugh. - W.H. Auden -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Web/Quickcam program Suggestions Needed
I used to use a version of xawtv's webcam but things came up and that varient didn't get updated for the new ov511 driver. I've tried SDLcam but went to came which is simlar in configuration, etc to xawtv's webcam app. You could just use xawtv to position the cam, and take a quick grab of the image. But I think the quality of the output from camE is nice. Also you can use gnomemeeting similar to netmeeting if you wish to use your cam for that. But if you've got a webpage and want to upload pics I'd go with camE. As for regular digital camera software I've not used that if your talking about the model of webcam that can also work like a digital cam. On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:13:32 -0800 Ralph F. De Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all: I just installed my brand new Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro. I have the proper pwc modules compiled and installed. My problem is that this is the first Web/QuickCam I have ever owned, and do not know what programs to use with it. I would like to use it to capture photos that can be saved to the harddrive etc. I primarily use kde but have gnome installed also. Much Much later on I might want to stream some video to a web site. So what are the recommendations to emerge. Ralph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life is eternal and love is immortal,and death is only a horizon... And a horizon is nothing, save the limit of our sight. - Carly Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Web/Quickcam program Suggestions Needed
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:22:13 -0800 Ralph F. De Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your reply. I did a quick look and xawtv seems to be in portage while camE is not. So I think I will go with xawtv for the time being. I will also I want to use gnomemeeting, but that looks Xawtv is something you might need either way. At least I've found I need both for various things. Xawtv comes with a variety of things not just the webcam app. :) like I need to add a very large section to devfs.conf. Right now I only want something simple to test the cam out. Right now I still have the scanner to get working, but that looks like it me just be a simple /usr/portage/media-video/xawtv/files/webcamrc /usr/share/man/man5/xawtvrc.5.gz That is where you'll find a sample rc file for xawtv's webcam app and xawtv. camE's rc sample is found here(depending on if your using ssh or not there is two): /usr/share/doc/came-1.2/example.camErc.gz /usr/share/doc/came-1.2/example.camErc.ssh.gz edit of the sane config file, then the cdrw that is the one that will take more knowledge to get fixed than I have now. After that there is At first tho my cdrw didn't work as an rw it did work as a cd easy enough. I found tho simply editing my grub config changed that by loading scsi emulation which I did turn on in the kernel(vanilla). I downloaded cdrtools, simplecdrx, and cdrao and it works fine. Good luck with getting yours going as well. about two other things to be done before I am happy and will call this install stable and a success. Yesterday I got the kernel to compile and finally got the printer to print and the floppy drive to read disks even though it is reading in 8.3 format (I think that is because I compiled in dos and windows partition support). Thanks for your recommendations and most of all thanks for all your help in the past. I'm not sure on the floppy part. Mine reads both windows and linux disks because my system is duel boot.(win98se tho it had been 2kpro til a mishap with itouch drivers). camE is in portage thats how I got it :) [ Results for search key : came ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * media-video/came Latest version available: 1.2 Latest version installed: 1.2 Size of downloaded files: 30 kB Homepage:http://linuxbrit.co.uk/camE/ Description: camE is a rewrite of the xawtv webcam app, which adds imlib2 support and a lot of new features Your welcome and I'm glad I could help. :) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- There is something very wonderful in music. Words are wonderful enough; but music is even more wonderful. It speaks not to our thoughts as words do; it speaks straight to our hearts and spirits, to the very core and root of our souls. Music soothes us, stirs us up; it puts noble feelings in us; it melts us to tears; we know not how; - it is a language by itself, just as perfect, in its way, as speech, as words; just as divine, just as blessed. - Charles Kingsley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] listening to streaming audio?
* media-video/realplayer Latest version available: 8-r5 Latest version installed: 8-r5 Size of downloaded files: 795 kB Homepage:http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html Description: RealPlayer 8 is a streaming media player * media-plugins/rmxmms Latest version available: 0.5.1 Latest version installed: 0.5.1 Size of downloaded files: 139 kB Homepage:http://www.xmms.org http://forms.real.com/rnforms/resources/server/realsystemsdk/index.html#download Description: RealAudio plugin for xmms * media-video/mplayer Latest version available: 0.90_rc4 Latest version installed: 0.90_rc4 Size of downloaded files: 3,990 kB Homepage:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ Description: Media Player for Linux check this link as it says it will play real audio along with many other formats including qt. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design5/info.html There are even things for icecast around. :) On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:43:16 -0600 Scott Thomason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a simple need...I want to listen to NPR public radio (http://npr.org). They offer their broadcasts in Quicktime, Windows Media, or RealAudio formats. Using the packages available in 1.4rc3 (and I'm not hesitant to delve into ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86), what are the most straightforward options for just kicking back and listening to the broadcast? I'd prefer to just click on the web links, but I'm not opposed to pasting URL's into another tool.---scott -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. - Kahlil Gibran -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] listening to streaming audio?
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:56:18 +1100 Craig Williamson (ENZ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi There, You have three choices. 1. The realplayer 8 ebuild is a good choice. Just do 'emerge realplayer' (without the quotes) and it will install the appropriate plugins for Mozilla. Then it should work out of the box (figuratively speaking). 2. I'm not sure of this one because I haven't used it, but I think there is an mplayer plug-in for Netscape/Mozilla. Do 'emerge -s mplayer'(without the quotes) and wee if there is a plug-in ebuild, then just emerge it. Then theoretically you could have streaming quicktime audio. There is but it's masked: * net-www/mplayerplug-in [ Masked ] Latest version available: 0.60 Latest version installed: 0.40 Size of downloaded files: 40 kB Homepage:http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/ Description: mplayer plug-in for Mozilla I've used it with no problem. However the odd site it wont play real audio files from. Probably because from what I can tell it is looking for the realone player which is also masked: * media-video/realone [ Masked ] Latest version available: 1 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 6,905 kB Homepage: http://realforum.real.com/cgi-bin/unixplayer/wwwthreads.pl Description: RealOne player is a streaming media player, AKA RealPlayer9 3. Pay some money and get Crossover Plugin and then you have the functionality of using the windows versions of Quicktime, Realplayer 8/RealONE, and even Windows Media (shudder). Without the crossover plugin you can get quicktime working with wine. However it's performance might be variable. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] listening to streaming audio?
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:54:47 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I listen to RFE broadcasts frequently using RealPlayer8 (phoenix-bin and phoenix nightlies), and it works well, but unfortunately the audio quality is not as good as with RealPlayer9 on M$ Windows. There is the realone player. It's masked however but it is supposedly the same thing as the windows realplayer9(realone). So you could always try that one. * media-video/realone [ Masked ] Latest version available: 1 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 6,905 kB Homepage: http://realforum.real.com/cgi-bin/unixplayer/wwwthreads.pl Description: RealOne player is a streaming media player, AKA RealPlayer9 -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Let deeds match words. - Platus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 'Open unrequested windows' blocking missing inMozilla 1.3
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:54:10 -0600 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed this earlier today. In Mozilla = 1.2.1, there was an option in the preferences, under Advanced - Scripts Plugins, to allow scripts to 'Open unrequested windows' or something to that effect. I noticed it first in 1.3b and it is still missing in 1.3-r1. Does anyone know what happened to this feature? Give this mozilla add on a try: http://preferential.mozdev.org/ It might help as it's an advanced prefrences editor. But tho I used phoenix and it lets me shut off popups I don't see it in that list.(there is quite a list of options however) I've heard others complain as well about this change in moz 1.3 that use both windows and linux. Hopefully the complaints will make them bring back the feature. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. - Unknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: help! wmaker
I just happened to be playing around with my windowmaker. To launch it open a term and type: /usr/share/GNUstep/WPrefs.app/WPrefs Other than that there is another configuration tool: * x11-misc/wmakerconf Latest version available: 2.9 Latest version installed: 2.9 Size of downloaded files: 488 kB Homepage:http://ulli.on.openave.net/wmakerconf/ Description: X based config tool for the windowmaker X windowmanager. If you right click on the icon for future refrences re WPrefs click lock(prevent accidental removal) also I can see it says Keep on top which is ticked in mine. It does have a hide option but it doesn't highlight on mouse over so either thats because I have it locked or it doesn't hide it. Nope I just unticked lock and it still didn't respond to hide. On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:38:21 -0600 peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what did i do? i was beginning to customize my window maker, using the WPrefs.app [i clicked on the icon]; i reloaded after setting all kinds of things, some of which i didn't understand [evidently!]; and the icon disappeared; and the program won't load when i right click on the desktop, and select Appearance Preferences Utility from the main menu; and it won't load when i click on Run, and write in WPrefs.app where is it hiding? peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. - Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo package reviews
I think reviews would also be good as well. That and if possible small screen shots of programs at work to give people an idea. One package I was looking at games wise led to a site about it's game engine. The only spot I finally found something on it was the downloads page that gave a small pic of what the program did.(a large portion of the page was in japanese I think character set wise and that is a language I don't know how to read). Perhaps something similar to the freshmeat rating system would work. Such a system of reviews and ratings would not only help those of us who have perhaps used linux awhile but not ran across certain programs but would also benifit newbies to linux. Right now I'm wondering if there is any spot for those of us somewhere who have unmasked programs and are running them to comment on how the programs perform. I had requested newsticker for gkrellm. It is out but is masked. I unmasked it having used it before and knowing it should be fine(which it is). But I can no longer find it listed in bugzilla anymore. I'm wondering how long it takes to go to unmasked state. I know that one is stable on my system. As also seems to be a few other things: Docker, lineak, mplayerplug-in, and probably the odd other thing that doesn't come to mind at the moment. On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:15:46 +0200 Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you've all noticed the Gentoo Linux Stable (http://gentoo-stable.iq-computing.de/), but I think it's a good idea. Furthermore, I think we should have a section under gentoo.org itself, where we can write what we think about packages in portage. It should be either paragraph-long reviews or one-liners (Nice, but irssi is better. or Takes forever to compile!). This would be a good place to help choose, for example, an IRC client, instead of seeping through the millions of discussions on the forums. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk space
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:44:26 + Andy Arbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using that kind of information a user can make informed decisions about what to remove if space is getting tight. qpkg can give info on several things. From the man page: qpkg [options] [pkgname] [-g group] [-f file|-fp pattern] qpkg --dups[--slot] -d, --dups print packages that have multiple versions installed -s, --slot make -d SLOT only print dups of the same SLOT -I, --installed Include only installed packages -g, --group Find by group (can be combined with other searches) -l, --list List package content -i, --info Get package description and home page. -q, --query-depsdisplay all installed packages depending on selected packages EXAMPLES qpkgprint list of packages qpkg --dups -v..with versions qpkg -f /bin/ls print package(s) that own /bin/ls There is however another package for cleaning out things: dep-clean From it's man page: dep-clean - Shows unrequired packages and missing dependencies. -N, --needed Display needed packages that are not installed. (red) (default) -U, --unneeded Display unneeded packages that are installed. (green) (default) -I, --interactive Interactively modify world file before proceeding. To clean my system I typically use emerge -p depclean then qpkg -q package name and finally dep-clean -UV To basically check drive/partition space I simply use kdf tho it doesn't tell me exactly what is using up the space. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cool games (lots of links)
Games that I know of that will work on linux: The sims (apprently winex now supports the windows version of sims but you can get a linux version of it now) Unreal Tournament Quake Alpha Centuri Rune Tribes2 Postal Soldier of Fortune Decent3 CivIII Simcity 3000 Heroes of Might and Magic III Heretic II Myth II FreeSpace Battlefield 1942 Neverwinter Nights Return to Castle Wolfenstien Here is a list of all games used with winex and their status: http://www.transgaming.com/dogamesearch.php?order=workingshowall=1 Now for linux native games(links are to reviews and/or ratings and screen shots) thease are some I've tried: Abuse-SDL: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Abuse-SDL Ace of Penguins: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Ace%20of%20Penguins Adonthell - Wastedge: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Adonthell BillardGL: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?BillardGL BZFlag: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag Celestia: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Celestia Chromium: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Chromium%20B.S.U. Code Breaker: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Code%20Breaker Columns: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Columns Crack Attack: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Crack%20Attack%21 Dopewars: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Dopewars Egoboo: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Egoboo Emilia Pinball: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Emilia%20Pinball Flight Gear Flight Sim: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Flight%20Gear%20Flight%20Sim FooBillard: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?FooBillard Freeciv: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Freeciv Frozen Bubble: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Frozen%20Bubble GNOME-Mud: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?GNOME-Mud jump n bump: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?jump%20n%20bump Kobo Deluxe: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Kobo%20Deluxe LBreakout: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?LBreakout LinCity: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?LinCity Ltris: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?LTris Mah-Jong: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Mah-Jong Mindless Automation: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Mindless%20Automaton NetHack Falcon's Eye: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?NetHack%20Falcon%27s%20Eye Phobia III: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Phobia%20III Pingus: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Pingus PipeNightDreams: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?PipeNightDreams PySol: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?PySol Search And Rescue: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Search%20And%20Rescue Super Tux: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Super%20Tux Tux Racer http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Tux%20Racer Tux the Penguin - A Quest for Herring: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Tux%20the%20Penguin%20-%20A%20Quest%20for%20Herring TuxKart: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?TuxKart TuxTyping: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?TuxTyping XBill: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?XBill XBoing: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?XBoing XGalaga: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?XGalaga Xmahjongg: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Xmahjongg Xpenguins: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Xpenguins xrick: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?xrick XTux: http://www.happypenguin.org/show?XTux LBreakout2: http://lgames.sourceforge.net/index.php?project=LBreakout2 TEG: http://freshmeat.net/projects/teg/?topic_id=83%2C58%2C80 -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cool games (lots of links)
LBreakout2: http://lgames.sourceforge.net/index.php?project=LBreakout2 TEG: http://freshmeat.net/projects/teg/?topic_id=83%2C58%2C80 -- Brett I. Holcomb AKA Grunt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem compiling opera 6.12
My lots of updates tonight and amoungst them was opera. Got this error: 22:36:18 (92.27 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/opera-6.12-20030305.1-static-qt.i386.tar.gz' saved [4978473/4978473] No message digest entry found for archive opera-6.12-20030305.1-static-qt.i386.tar.gz. !!! Most likely a temporary problem. Try 'emerge rsync' again later. !!! If you are certain of the authenticity of the file then you may type !!! the following to generate a new digest: !!! ebuild /usr/portage/category/package/package-version.ebuild digest Now on doing a locate opera then search for digest in the results I do find a digest on my system for opera 6.12 /usr/portage/net-www/opera/files/digest-opera-6.12 So it's a bit odd that it says it's not there when it does show up. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about emerge
My understanding of it from running into where I had to use sync vs rsync(new portage that unmaked when it shouldn't of at the time). Is they are the same. Sync is the new command and rsync the old. Here is what the man page says: rsync See sync below. sync Initiates a portage tree update with one of the rsync.gentoo.org mirrors. Note that any changes you have made to the portage tree will be erased. Except for in special circumstances, this uses rsync to do the update. See make.conf's description of PORTDIR_OVERLAY for a method to avoid deletions. When I'd got the newish portage one time it complained I'd used rsync and told me it was an outdated command and I should use sync instead. Then later that portage was masked. When it was re released it allowed the rsync without complaint. So I think you can use either or. On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:55:02 +0100 Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is there a difference between 'emerge sync' and 'emerge rsync' ? Regards, Renat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Failure is not falling down, it is not gettnig up again. - Mary Pickford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-desktop] odd problem
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:22:10 +0200 Theofilos Intzoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such odd behaviour was noticed here on some systems running framebuffer on the console and using the nvidia drivers on X. By not using fb everything was normal. The frame buffer issue doesn't just bug nvida cards. I have a voodoo 5500 AGP and it also gets a weird cursor at times that looks like a bar code. During boot when you see the little tux icon I get white space as well as like I said that barcode looking thing. Later tho it returns to a normal cursor. At least I have no problems with the cursor when launching a terminal from X. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- PCMCIA - People Can't Memorise Computer Industry Acronyms -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] splash.xpm.gz
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:58:54 + (GMT) Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://gentoo.tkdack.com/node.php?title=Grub%20Splash%20Screens The `convert` command mentioned is in the ImageMagick ebuild. HTH, Stroller. XnView would also work for conversion. It is masked for x86 however I've used it in past so unmasked it and it seems to work fine enough. It supports the largest variety I've seen of formats including xpm. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but among those whom I love, I can. All of them make me laugh. - W.H. Auden -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pine Configuration Help Needed
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:54:08 -0800 (PST) ralphdewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I have just setup pine and I have one problem that I have not been able to solve. When in compose pine builds my From address as ralphdewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I would like it to build the From address as ralphdewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED], but so far have not been abe to find the right config option to set. Could someone help. Ralph In the customize-hdr add: FROM: ralphdewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] That will insert that as your from address you can also add: REPLY-TO: email addy Other than that a quick fix to email issues is to use sylpheed which will handle multiple email accounts and will fetch from pop and imap, etc. It's also graphical and similar to several windows mail clients. I don't need fetchmail and exim but I happen to use them because on occasion my son or my boyfriend use my machine for email, etc. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life's unfair - but root password helps! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package in world file is not installed
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:42:45 + Ian Tindale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, these are all packages that I've tried but unmerged at one time or another. However, other packages that I've also tried but unmerged at other times aren't listed like this. -- Ian Tindale I've had it do the same so I've manually edited my world file and cut them out. Similarly I find if you use regenworld if you've specified a package version it does away with that so I had to go in and reset them to =catagory/package-number* I've also find occasionally it leaves files behind when you unmerge so I've gone and cleaned out a few that I'm sure weren't in use by other programs. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- But words are things, and a small drop of ink, Falling like dew, upon a thought, produces That which makes thousands, perhaps millions, think. - Lord Byron -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two netcard in one computer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:45:37 +0100 Jesper Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saying: bringing up eth0 SIOCADDRT: Device or resource busy setting default gateway ... ok SIOCSIFFLAGS: network is unreachable Failed to bring eth0 up Bringing Eth0 down ok Bringing Eth1 up ok my /etc/conf.d/net iface_eth0=10.0.0.100 broadcast 10.0.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 iface_eth1=10.0.1.1 broadcast 10.0.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 is there any thing i have forgotten the driver is included in the kernel I have two nearly identical smc nic's working on my router/firewall. I think one of those iface_eth*= needs changed. I'd have to mess with my other system to get the exact specifices. Ok walked across the room and here is mine: from: /etc/conf.d/net iface_eth0=dhcp iface_eth0=192.168.128.1 broadcast 192.168.128.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 the above is all that is in there... no iface_eth1 shrug -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. - Unknown -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two netcard in one computer
Doi me I took a second look at that wondering and I had typed it wrong there was too an iface_eth0 on mine. However the other computer is on the other side of the room so I was walking back and forth between the two. It should of read: iface_eth0=dhcp iface_eth1=192.168.128.1 broadcast 192.168.128.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0 goes to my cable modem and eth1 goes out to my switch. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- There are in the end three things that last: Faith, Hope, and Love, and the greatest of these is love. - St. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two netcard in one computer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:28:34 -0300 Norberto BENSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you use DHCP and then a static IP in the _same_ interface? Seems pointless to me, but I can be wrong... I have cable internet and they change the ip's on me. The other ip is for my internal network of which currently 3 machines are hooked to(the router/firewall, my main system and my sons computer) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see, and know what the mind cannot understand. - Robert Valett -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two netcard in one computer
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:48:02 -0300 Norberto BENSA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever heard of ssh? Yes and I do have it but actually have never used it before. My boyfriend does use it when he's going between them. I suppose I should read the man page seeing as I took Xfree out of that box and tightvnc. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- There are in the end three things that last: Faith, Hope, and Love, and the greatest of these is love. - St. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help Needed to Get Setiathome running
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:41:29 -0800 Ralph F. De Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI: I have tried for the last three days to get setiathome running as user with either ksetiwatch or tkseti with out luck and it is driving me up a wall. No matter were I place the executicabel setiathome and no matter who is the user and group, I get the same respounce Permission denied. Permission on the executible are read/execute for user,group,others. Can someone please help. Right know there unmerged. Ralph I have mine running in /home/userid/setiathome however gentoo puts it in /opt and you'll have to adjust the start/stop paths to reflect that. I'm using the seti plugin for gkrellm to control seti. Based on what I have in there: Set path to sah: /home/userid/setiathome/ Path to seti client: /home/userid/setiathome/./ Arguments to the client: -nice 19 -email /dev/null 2 /dev/null now what you'll have to do if your emerge seti is change the path to the seti client to the /opt directory it gets put in. Create a setiathome directory in your home directory so sah files, etc can be dumped there. And the rest should work. I've not personally tried it with seti in /opt as I have my setiathome dir from my prior linux distro install. However you will likely need the ./ shrug at least mine seems to and yes where seti is is in my path. Goodluck. Oh and btw I did try tkseti with my seti client in my home dir and it did work. You can download and put the seti client in your home dir using the fetch only emerge command. Seti files are binaries. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life's unfair - but root password helps! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Meaning of mozilla use flags?
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:34:20 + Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I'm looking for the meaning of mozcalendar mozaccess mozinterfaceinfo mozp3p and mozxmlterm. Try this link for some hints: http://www.mozdev.org/projects.html You can get a mud plugin, calender, etc so some of the flags may have to do with that. I'm not totally sure but I think mozp3p might have something to do with enigmail but I could well be wrong on that.shrug -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- If we do not find anything very pleasant, at least we shall find something new. - Voltaire -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email Configuration Help Baddly Needed
Install fetchmail and either run fetchmailconf to create a config file or create one manually. For some reason fetchmailconf isn't working on my system so I've had to manually create a file. Here is the basics: # Configuration created date by fetchmailconf set postmaster your user id set bouncemail set no spambounce set properties set daemon 600 poll your mail server with proto POP3 and options uidl user 'your email account id' there with password 'your password for that account' is 'your user id' here no keep Repeat the user line as necisarly changing the applicables to cover all acounts you have in question. The no keep means it deletes from the server mail it has retrieved. Then edit your .bash_profile so on the last line it says fetchmail (without the of course). Changes will take effect next time you log in. Now after that get sylpheed or pine. In them tell them to retrieve mail from the local spool and it should have the other info in it that is reasonably self explanitory. Mutt is a bit more of a pain to set up than pine. However there are some online tools to create a config file: http://mutt.netliberte.org/ On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:31:43 -0800 Ralph De Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all: I am working through my first ever Gentoo Installation. One of my main problems now is to set-up my email system. I have read the desktop set-up guide and the Posstfix setup manual, but still do not understand the process. I see nowhere to place my isp's pop server name, my log in id, and password, and the same for my isp;s smtp server. Nor do I understand how to make it understand my email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This setup help is badly needed as my spouse wants me and my email off her machine. Can someone help me configure postfix and mutt or suggest some other program and help get me up and running. After I get this set up and find out wat is broken in KDE/Kmail(kmail frezzes about after a minute of use) I would then like the mail program to fetch mail and then I would like to use Kmail to fetch from my locall program to read, then send outgoing to my program where it would be sent on to my isp. Thanks for any help you can give. Ralph -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. - Eleanor Roosevelt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuilds
I was wondering how long it normally takes to get an ebuild added to the portage. As well how to use one that hasn't been added but is available. I've run into a few available for things but not in the portage and also not always in bugzilla. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech i-Touch keyboards
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:36:48 +0100 Anarconda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try lineakd, works ok with my logitech desktop optical. Thanks I just tried that one and it was even better than hotkeys having my exact keyboard in their list(logitech internet navigator keyboard). I've got everything working perfectly. :)) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- 'The Geek shall inherit the earth.' - Linus 5:5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to mutch packages with emerge
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:07:11 + Patrick Marquetecken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Fluxbox a window manager, does this mean that i kan place -kde-gnome in /etc/make.conf. but some programs need kde of gnome support? I'm using openbox which is related to fluxbox, blackbox and waimea. I've got -gnome and -kde in my USE flags and I'm using kdeutils and kdegames along with a few gnome programs. It did download some libs specific to those enviros that it needed however it didn't install gnome or kde in totality and the programs run just fine.(tho kedit is giving me a mime type error so I have to figure out how to fix mimetypes. Something I've not had to figure out in past as I'd used binary distros before) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly embracing each other. - Liciano De Crescenzo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gkrellm issues
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:45:10 -0800 (PST) Stephen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey i used to have gkrellm working on my system but after a recompile of the system... well it wont work anymore, ive checked my make.conf, played with the +gtk -gtk issues tried everything i could think of (dependency wise) but it wont emerge :( it errors out with this message [Function src_compile, line 26, exitcode 2 (no error message) ] got any ideas what might be causing this? I had problems with the new one as well. It had started throwing window decorations on it when the default is supposed to be off. Also something else was wacky with it but off the top of my head I forget what. What I did end up doing is putting the earlier version in that I like and I've never had problems with. So it and it's plugins in my world file appear as: =x11-plugins/gkrellm-newsticker-0.3 =x11-plugins/gkrellm-reminder-0.3.5 =x11-plugins/gkrellsun-0.2 =app-admin/gkrellm-1.2.13 =x11-plugins/gkrellmms-0.5.6 =x11-plugins/gkrellkam-0.3.4* =x11-plugins/gkrellm-volume-0.8* =x11-plugins/gkrellmwho-0.4 =x11-plugins/gkrellm-bfm-0.5.1 =x11-plugins/gkrellshoot-0.3.2 =x11-plugins/gkrellm-seti-0.7.0b By the way the newsticker is a new plugin I requested. It's still in testing stages so masked. I've however used it in both Mandrake and in gentoo(both for gkrellm2 and gkrellm) and it's worked fine. I'm using an athlon 1GHz T-bird. What this particular plugin does is fetch news headlines from various sites you specify and on click loads that site into your browser. A listing of free sites is at: http://www.newsisfree.com/ Also I've noticed problems with the xmms plugin for gkrellm2. It didn't work when I was on mandrake and it doesn't work for me on gentoo either.(it tends to crash xmms however gkrellm's earlier plugin - 0.5.6 - works fine) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Carpe Aptenodytes! (Seize the Penguins!) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Replacement for Evolution/Gaim
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:57:37 + (GMT) Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylpheed uses the pda use flag but am not sure if it works with palm. It's a good email client. Evolution's functionality is going to be hard to beat though especially with the release of 1.3.1 beta and its ebuild. As far as multiprotocol chat clients go gaim and kopete are quite nice although if can put with single protocols licq and gnomeicu are lightweight. I prefer micq. Another multiprotocol chat client that runs entirely in console is centericq. Speaking of multi chat clients I had looked at concentric myself. However I had trillian working under wine but now for some reason trillian 0.7.4 wont run on wine. Is anyone else having this issue? I've gone back to using gaim but I also use SIM. I didn't like how gaim handled icq because it from what I could see didn't offer the same privacy/security settings.(ie hide ip and such) Tho I have gaim installed and a few other gnome things I still don't seem to have the bulk of gnome from what I can tell. Then again my USE flags include -gnome -kde) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- If we do not find anything very pleasant, at least we shall find something new. - Voltaire -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Logitech i-Touch keyboards
I have a Net Navigator keyboard. I see there is an xmms-itouch plugin that makes use of my multimedia keys. I don't see anything in packages.mask or the ebuild to indicate why it's masked. I'm considering unmasking it(I did such with docker and it works just fine) but I'm wondering if anyone else has tried it and how well it works. As well does anyone know of a program or way to map my extra keyboard keys under linux? So far they are useless when I'm in nix tho I have them doing specific things in windows. However the scroll wheel on the keyboard works as if it was the up/down arrows. Thanks. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The e-mail of the species is deadlier than the mail. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech i-Touch keyboards
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:54:43 + Joel Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hotkeys allows you to map extra keys to useful actions, and has a number of presets for special keyboards. I know the iTouch is supported (I use it myself), not sure about others. Much thanks. I tried the xmms plugin and it crashed and removed itself from the plugin list. I tried hotkeys and it works great. :) I'm using the one with the itouch.def that I've customized in a .hotkeys along with bits of hotkeys.conf put in there. you can use the 'xev' program to identify keycodes to make your own hotkeys config file if there isn't one for your keyboard in the presets. Thanks I'll also give that a try later as some of my keys weren't covered in conf or def files unless they've named the keys other things in diffrent versions. My keys are: sleep, finance, my sites, community, favourites, itouch, e-mail, shopping, search, and my home. Then the media keys of course.(one of which will launch a media palyer) I know one thing tho my system doesn't like the latest itouch windows drivers. It crashed so severe it was unrecoverable and I had to reinstall windows. :P -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time. - Hobbes -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for installing windowmanager
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:20:29 -0700 (MST) Patrick Marquetecken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, me again I've got my base system working with Xfree, now its time for installing a window manager, i was thinking for using Fluxbox 0.1.14-r1. I would like to use these programs is this possible within Fluxbox or is it better to use anotherone? Most programs work with the blackbox family of window managers. Evolution, OpenOffice, Xcdroast, VMware, Adobe Acrobat, XMMS, Gaim, The Gimp, Mozilla, Mr Project, Ethereal ... I'm using openbox and had fluxbox on here and they worked with: Open Office, Adobe, xmms, Gaim, and Gimp. I also have kdeutils, kdegames, gnome-pim, gftp, multi gnome terminal, simple cdr-x, etc running and both the kde and gnome things work fine for me. my /etc/make.conf USE contains KDE and GNOME evo cdr ... Mine has that off. The programs only use what they need to and I don't want the full gnome or kde window managers installed on my system. can i start with emerge fluxbox and go so on. You can put them in whatever order you want ie emerge fluxbox xmms gaim fluxbox and it will put them in the order it likes making sure all dependancies are installed first. To run fluxbox later in your home directory make a .xinitrc and in it list any programs you want to run at startup and as the final line exec fluxbox if you want to use more than one window manager I suggest emerging selectwm and putting exec selectwm at the end of the xinitrc instead of exec fluxbox. Here is a copy of my xinitrc: #!/bin/sh xsetroot -solid black bbrun wmweather+ -location 49.15'00N 123.05'00W -avn-station yvravn -animate wmtz wminet wmpinboard -w wmappl wmcalc gkrellm bbpager -w exec selectwm2 -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Experience is never limited, and it is never complete; it is an immense sensibility, a kind of huge spider-web of the finest silken threads suspended in the chamber of consciousness, and catching every air-borne particle in its tissue. - Henry James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xface use flag?
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:53:24 + (GMT) Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon my ignorance but what effect does the xface use flag have on sylpheed and claws exactly? If you compile sylpheed or sylpheed claws with it it allows you to display a small image in the emails you send. There are places that will create this image. I tried to create one but some how it got garbled. If you using sylpheed tho and your reading emails if someone has used x-face you will see an icon of them in the upper right hand corner of the email. Online X-face Converter: http://www.dairiki.org/xface/ A bunch of diffrent xfaces people can use: http://www.xs4all.nl/~ace/X-Faces/ Another X-Face Online Generator: http://www.mythic-beasts.com/tools-toys/xface/ -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has had to overcome while trying to succeed. - Booker T. Washington -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for installing windowmanager
I forgot one thing. No matter which window manager you use (tho not sure on kde and gnome) you will have to generate your own menus. They give sample menu's however of course you may not use all the progs on there or have a bunch of things you'd like to add. Some window managers have menu generation utils built in. For fluxbox/blackbox/openbox you can use bbconf which is an all in one utility that you can do menus with. Xfce and afterstep both have menu creation things as well. There is also a program that will generate menus for several types of desktops but it's currently masked. I'm using openbox right now but would of used flux if I'd been able to get arid of the tool bar.(only other feature I miss from both is ability to have more than one slit aka dock which waimea does support but I find waimea is kind of weird to useshrug) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The monument of a great man is not of granite or marble or bronze. It consists of his goodness, his deeds, his love and his compassion. - Alfred A. Montapert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Content (porn) Filter
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:06:40 -0500 gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd have to agree with craig on this one. stopping kids from doing something is just encouraging them to find a way around the blockage. the best thing you can do is talk to them and help them understand what's out there. 'cause whether you want them to or not, whether they're using your computer or not, they'll find they're going to see everything there is to see... best you prepare them for it rather than denying them the chance to make a decision to avoid it. I agree too. I've seen kids that were quite sick, etc at the hospice my daughter passed away at get around filters. For th older kids (over 10 or 11) they couldn't even get to hotmail due to filtering(in their case by norton). My son is mentally challanged and 11 yrs old. He's used computers since he was 4.(he's not a savant or anything but can get around in linux, mac OS, and windows just fine). He knows right and wrong and knows where he's aloud to go. I've edited his bookmarks to make them point at kid safe search engines, home work info, entertainment sites, etc. I've made those links handy to reach(personal toolbar, etc). If my little guy (ok he's not so little he's 5ft2 and 133lbs) can be taught right from wrong and use the net unmonitored pretty much any parent could teach their kids. Not to say that on occasion he doesn'nt get into something. Instant messengers are bad for that. But I net proofed him by explaining what info to not give, that he should only talk to people he knows or I know(our family, friends, school buddies, etc) and that some people aren't what they appear to be.(one girl was calling herself brittney spears now my son and another mentally challanged teen thought that true. I pointed out to my son why it probably wasn't as he does know some famous people... David Arquette was one he messaged with and who doesn't use his real name for obvious reasons. Well my son understood that and is more cautious). My son and I also had a talk on facts of life years ago and he's had education on it in school from kindergarten on. So he's not phased by somethings and also from talks with me matter of factly on questions he's had he grasps somethings. Such as art vs sex and that sex isn't for little kids. Overall tho I think kids can be taught net safety basics and they are usually quite bright and determined so if you put in filters they will find a way around them or they'll be curious why it's blocked and find some way around them... or finally they'll get irritated that they can get their hotmail or whatever from school or the library but not at home and try to get around things. One warning tho and I don't think my son is the only child to do this. Be prepared for acro invasion. You'll see it used lots after they start talking to their friends or reading more websites for kids, etc. While I've discouraged my son from speaking acro alot(I don't want him to carry it offline and into school work) I do encourage him to email and talk with friends and family. This has helped his language and his will to learn.(kids are very determined if they need something and are curious so science sites, etc catch their eyes) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed to unchartered land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. - Helen Keller -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Content (porn) Filter
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:58:13 -0800 Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree, I think there is also a preventative aspect as well, as I've seen some pretty rude banner ads, and while I agree that pretty Fix for that is have the kids use mozilla and install bannerblind or adblock and they take out that sort of stuff based on the params you give it. Some sites have fine content other than the banner has things it it it shouldn't. I think also somewhere there are word filters but off the top of my head I can't remember what that program was called. Bannerblind tho however afik works in windows, linux, and probably mac.(I use it in both windows and linux) Which OS are the kids using? If it really is important there are children specific browsers and such.(I suggest looking at www.tucows.com/internet.html) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The monument of a great man is not of granite or marble or bronze. It consists of his goodness, his deeds, his love and his compassion. - Alfred A. Montapert -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla and Java (Again)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:49:28 -0500 Don Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have followed the steps to get the Sun's java to work with Mozilla. No go. I followed the step by step to get Blackdown working, no go. I have managed to get Moz 1.2.1 to see a java plugin, but it dies (exits right away) when I go to a page with java. To get Moz to see it, I had to copy javaplugin_oji.so to /plugins. Ideas? No not really other than suggesting you try phoenix. It uses the plugin you get from netscape.com and had worked fine for me when I couldn't get java to work in mozilla before. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Let deeds match words. - Platus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] compress rsync?
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:13:24 -0500 gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when connecting to rsync1.uk.gentoo.org via rsync, i get the following message: if you're not doing so alread, please consider compressing the connection here by using rsync -z ; you can edit /usr/sbin/emerge (or /usr/bin/emerge in newer versions of portage) to assert this what is that? where in /usr/bin/emerge do i do it? SHOULD i do it? is there a better way? I think this might be it: mycommand=/usr/bin/rsync -rlptDvz --progress --stats --delete --delete-after --timeout=+str(mytimeout)+ --exclude='distfiles/*' --exclude='packages/*' btw I think you can also add the -z at sync as well. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla and java
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 18:41:15 -0700 Kent Jantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is how I got it working: 1. Unmerge Openmotif and Lesstif if you have them installed 2. Emerge Mozilla 3. Emerge Blackdown-jdk(you can do Sun's version to but it takes about 3 hours to compile), make sure it's installing version 1.4.1. 4. Type 'java-config --list-available-vms' (look for Blackdown 1.4.1) 5. Type 'java-config --set-system-vm=blackdown-jdk-1.4.1' 6. Reinstall Openmotif or Lesstif if you had them installed. 7. Type 'env-update' Runs like champ. Kent Hey cool it did work and works well. I'm actually seeing the coffee cup icon on load which I didn't notice before. I did have to unmask java 1.4.1 for x86 but it's along side the 1.3.1. Before I had tried on java on mozilla related browsers and it just wasn't working(except for phoenix because it was binary) and sun java likes at least 2G of space to compile. :P -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life is eternal and love is immortal,and death is only a horizon... And a horizon is nothing, save the limit of our sight. - Carly Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] forcing emerge of all installed packages...
On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 15:05:40 +0200 Voicu Liviu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, do: # emerge -e world ( if this failes somewhere, do again: # emerge -e --resume world ) Actually if it fails do regenworld emerge -e --resume world There is a -e bug that will delete things listed in the world file. So safter to have the regen script check and make sure everything thats supposed to be there is. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. - Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] How do I update only dependancies for everything?
The other day when looking at another program it told me there was an update for an dependancy I already had installed. However emerge -uD world isn't seeing it probably because it is a dependancy. I've tried emerge -uDo world but again that doesn't work. I'd like to keep my deps upto date as well as the things in the world file. Thanks. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. - Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xtart for Gentoo
On Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:59:33 -0500 Ryan Grange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something equivalent to Mandrake's Xtart for selecting a desktop environment to start from the command line? Try selectwm. It's what I use and it launches X then has a graphical util for choosing which window manager you use. Other than that yes you can startx and specify what window manager you wish to use in an .xintrc -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- I'm a pessimist because of intelligence, but an optimist because of will. - Antonio Gramsci -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Would you like a little WINE with that?
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:54:59 -0800 Spundun Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what you mean :) But just for the sake of fairness I have had to reboot my gentoo box because of hangs. It has happened 3-4 times randomly in last 3 months that after sitting idle for sometime it hangs... I see a frozen Xscreensaver and tapping the mouspad (its a laptop) doesnt get it off... ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt work hmm ctl alt backspace is what I use never tried the f* combo other than to switch to a console/terminal. Out of curiosity which screen saver does that to you? I like the really slick screensavers which in nix is rss_glx however I notice it freezes/locks up X for no good reason sometimes to the point of reboot because killing X doesn't work and it wont let me change desktops. The other screensaver I have and which I find quite cool is electricsheep (distributed screensaver) however now it's out of beta and the ebuilds haven't caught up so I get an upgrade message and it stops. (ctrl+at+(+)/(-) has never worked for me somehow) and the only option I got is reboot. What does that code do? Tho I've used linux for a few years majority of that was on mandrake and I never got to learning what all the combos do. I know this may not be linux crash... may be Xfree crash but then again when we say windows crash.. what component do we mean? Still this is not similar to BSOD so for that... errwhat about kernel panic! regards Spundun Only times I've really had linux crash was on boot after a power failure or some program went wacky. Then I get a use e2fsck kind of message and it clears inodes and such. Most often I just get X going wacky due to the odd program but it doesn't happen very much. Compared to M$ it is way less and thankgoodness we don't have to reboot... just simply kill X and restart it majority of the time. As for nix owchies I have to say I love linux error messages. Things like penguins on fire and stuff. Somewhere online is a list of the silly things it can say. :) -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Experience is never limited, and it is never complete; it is an immense sensibility, a kind of huge spider-web of the finest silken threads suspended in the chamber of consciousness, and catching every air-borne particle in its tissue. - Henry James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinion Poll: KDE Vs Gnome
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:33:46 +0100 Alexander Futasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i forgot to mention: with openbox you can choose wether you want the toolbar to be shown or not. Ahh cool along with it's other features. I'll have to take a closer look. I like blackbox but I don't particularly care for the toolbar. I use gkrellm, various stuff in the silt, and if I'm using bbpager I find the desktop scroll through on the tool bar pointless.(tho yes the program one has it's uses but often I just select lower when clicking on a window to get at what is behind it) also there are some cool applications to use with openbox, made by the same guys who did openbox: epist - keybindings I'm not sure why but epist isn't working on the openbox I have installed. Unless I'm using it wrong. With blackbox I use bbconf/bbkeys. docker - systemtray like app compatible with gnome and kde One of the features of the docker was that it can allow 2 docks wasn't it? I'm one of those people that likes some of the little wm dock apps however depending on what I'm using they don't all neatly fit in one(they scroll off the screen). Menu wise I think openbox was the easier to mess with for changing to something that matched my blackbox. Waimea was a bit more picky on the odd thing. I do like waimea's clean(ie toolbar free) desktop but still adjusting to how you switch desktops. I was a bit weirded on the vertical ones so now mine is 4x1 instead of 3x3. to be fair i will say that these apps also work with most of the other windowmanagers. Yes it seems most blackbox family stuff is compatable with eachother tho I was suprised to see somewhere that one non blackbox wm was using bbpager. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Dawn is nature's way of telling you to go to bed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem starting X
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:24:19 -0500 Jason Giangrande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I type startx I get the following on a few lines: /usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 133: xauth: command not found I get that too if I delete .Xauthority from my home directory. X should create a new one when it is started next if such happens. If the file exists already delete it and it should create a new the current file might be corrupt. And this once: /usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 140: xinit: command not found Not seen that one before but you may not have a default window manager uncommented in the file that controls those things. Personally I use .xinitrc which is a file I created and in mine I tell it to launch X with a black background and call selectwm which lets me choose which window manager I want to use. Here is a copy of my .xinitrc ---copy and pasted below--- #!/bin/sh xsetroot -solid black exec selectwm2 ---end copy and paste--- But my old xinit rc was as follows ---cut n paste--- #!/bin/sh bbrun bblaunch -w 2 -h -v -d 1 xchat sleep bubblemon -c -k sleep 2 wmweather+ -location 49.15'00N 123.05'00W -avn-station yvravn -animate sleep 2 wmtz sleep 2 wminet sleep 2 wmpinboard -w sleep 2 wmappl sleep 2 wmcalc sleep 2 gkrellm -w sleep 2 exec blackbox ---end cut n paste--- If you have an .xinitrc in your home directory when you type startx it will run the window manager specified in it. In the above example you can see I use blackbox. However the other example(first one) gives the app that launches my window manager selection tool. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Accept no one's definition of your life, but define yourself. - Harvey Fierstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] World file?
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:32:31 + MIKE MacMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I specify the versions? I emerged X 4.3 yesterday, and now it wants to get rid of it, even though I put =x11-base/xfree-4.3 in my world file. Here is a snippet from mine: =x11-plugins/gkrellm-volume-0.8* =x11-plugins/gkrellsun-0.9* -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. - Eleanor Roosevelt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinion Poll: KDE Vs Gnome
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:29:12 -0700 Mike Diehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:23 pm, Anthony Floyd wrote: What man, are you mad? Some one call the fire department, there's gonna be flames! Try each, make a personal decision. No matter what the ensuing carnage says, it's whatever is best for you. Each has its pros and cons. No, KDE is best! grin Yup, this will start a fire if anything will. The advice above is probably the best thing you can do to answer this question. Yes but as well to not limit oneself to just KDE or Gnome. There are several window managers available and I've tried several of them. Curious on what the diffrences are I'm now also using openbox, waimea, and icewm along side blackbox(what I usually use) and xfce. Prior to blackbox tho I had been on KDE all the time and never tried gnome that much(my prior computer system was too slow to run gnome very well) and occasionally enlightenment. I've also tried windowmaker and afterstep.shrug But so far like the simplicity of blackbox and speed and still run kde and gnome apps all the same. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see, and know what the mind cannot understand. - Robert Valett -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opinion Poll: KDE Vs Gnome
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:52:45 + MIKE MacMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which one was it that was just a border around the window and used pie menus for the actions, moving was *not* left click ... their webpage had something about a Next Generation Paradigm or a New Paradigm or some other thing ... can't remember its name and it seemed really cool to me... the desktops were just a straight colour ... different one for each desktop ... fairly unusable, but cool concept. I'm not sure which one that is. Waimea is a varient of blackbox that has no toolbar and to shift to a new desktop you move your cursor to edge of window but the desktops can be vertical and horizontal. With ice it reminds me of kde1x for some reason and I'm still messing around with it before I form much opinion on it really. There are text based wm tho I forget the name of it. Evilwm is really barebones from what I can see tho actually not tried it just visited the website. I belive most give a right click menu and in some cases middle button menu. Afterstep and Windowmanager I think tho had just the square icons on the screen and it was somewhat weird manuvering around it. Enlightenment is diffrent and not sure quite how to describe that one. I suggest looking at the gentoo online package database list of window managers and visiting their official sites. There is one rather neat one there called tree but tho I find it neat I'm not enough of a power user to fully benifit from it. -- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ --- Life's unfair - but root password helps! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
