Re: [ilugd] [CrossPosted] Re: LibreOffice In Indian Languages
On 02/06/2012 05:17 AM, sankarshan wrote: On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com wrote: I am meeting with the Founder of LibreOffice at FOSDEM and he was interested in knowing what kind of localization work is going on for LibreOffice. I think there are some active communities. I would like to connect them with LibreOffice can you point me to someone? If the 'Founder' of LibreOffice (and, I am amused to note that there is a Founder given that OpenOffice.org was always a committee). For your amusement, you might find some 'founders' here: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/board/ isn't already talking with the L10n dev group then I'd be mighty unhappy with the way things are. The L10n contributions to OO.o swung over to LO.o the moment the repositories and workflows were set up. In that case I need to know more about it. Can you connect me to someone? ps: If you are cross posting for wider audience, stating it in the subject line itself is a good thing to do. Will keep that in mind. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] LibreOffice In Indian Languages
Hi, I am meeting with the Founder of LibreOffice at FOSDEM and he was interested in knowing what kind of localization work is going on for LibreOffice. I think there are some active communities. I would like to connect them with LibreOffice can you point me to someone? Swapnil Bhartiya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Junglee.com: Amazon launches India shopping site
On 02/02/2012 05:38 PM, krish wrote: Full story at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16849123 Indeed a good news, hope this would bring in good experience and ease as in other continents. I don't see the FOSS connection here. I am a heavy Amazon user (only for hardware). I have a Kindle but don't buy eBook as they DRM them. Also the way they are playing dirty with Android doesn't reflect the FLOSS mentality. They will only kill the indian service providers. Swapnil Was this a paid ad? ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Greg KH exclusive Interview
Hi, As everyone knows SUSE Fellow and one of the stars of the Linux world Greg KH has joined the Linux Foundation. I have had the pleasure of interviewing him and Linus couple of times. Here is a series of exclusive one-to-one interviews with Greg KH. Hope you will enjoy http://www.muktware.com/news/3271/exclusive-interview-greg-kroah-hartman-video Also, just want to say THANK YOU to Greg for making our devices work under Linux. Swapnil Bhartiya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Microsoft, Apple Protest SOPA?
It's humor piece to mock supporters of SOPA/PIPA. To protest against SOPA/PIPA, Apple is announcing two models of the iPhone and the iPad with jet black back and STOP SOPA/PIPA engraved on it. The devices are available immediately and the $100 extra ($100 + the original price) that you will pay for each device will be donated to Apple's internal law enforcement department which fights the patent and copyright cases. Read story here: http://www.muktware.com/blogs/3226/apple-joins-sopa-protest The technical team of Microsoft came up with a solution. We did not have to do much and it will have deeper impact than Wikileak's blackout. According to our funded survey 10 people visit Wikipedia every 30 seconds compare that with Windows BSoD (Blue Screen of Death). There are 30 BSoDs every 10 seconds, around the globle. This is a massive power and we can exploit it. Read story here:http://www.muktware.com/blogs/3227/microsoft-joins-sopapipa-protest-windows-will-go-black-today Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Microsoft, Apple Protest SOPA?
On 01/18/2012 12:06 PM, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: Smruti said on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 03:31:01PM +0530,: From the website; *If you are using Windows please update your system. If you are using GNUhttp://www.muktware.com/category/project/gnu/Linux, please install Windows to join the protest.* * * LOL... Missed the message, eh? In that case read the whole story. http://www.muktware.com/blogs/3227/microsoft-joins-sopapipa-protest-windows-will-go-black-today ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Top Open Source Sites Protesting SOPA, PIPA
http://www.muktware.com/blogs/3228/top-open-source-sites-protesting-sopa-pipa There are many open source communities which are protesting the anti-freedom bill SOPA and its 'Little Boy' cousing PIPA via their websites. Here are the top 5 open source communities protesting SOPA and PIPA Distros include: Fedora, openSUSE, Mageia. Interestingly Ubuntu is missing from SOPA protest! Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] openSUSE Going On SOPA Strike, Who Else?
http://www.muktware.com/news/3224/opensuse-going-sopa-strike It's great to see that the openSUSE community (I started using openSUSE once Novell took its last breath) has taken a stand against SOPA/PIPA. The Open Source/Free Software community is going on strike on 18th Jan, 2012, to protest against the dangerous SOPA and PIPA bills. But ain't SOPA Dead? SOPA has been put on the back burner for a while amid all these online protests. But the war is not over yet. The bill may be pulled out once the politicians gets something better to distract citizens. The chances are that the congressmen may try to slip the provisions of SOPA in some anti-terrorism bill. The 'Little Boy' PIPA is still kicking and the 'corporate' politicians may try to pass it this week. openSUSE team has announced a one day strike to protest against SOPA. The openSUSE website says, We hope the decision to blackout openSUSE.org will educate people around the world about this issue that threatens the basics of the Internet, will make some US based contributors, friends and users contact their representatives in congress and inspire others to join the strike. Muktware.com will be protesting against SOPA and PIPA in a unique way. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Did Microsoft Just Kill Ubuntu Tablets?
http://www.muktware.com/news/3217/did-microsoft-just-kill-ubuntu-tablets There is no doubt that Canonical is looking at the ARM based hardware for its tablets. But Microsoft seemed to have nipped Ubuntu's Tablet in the bud. The company tweaked its Windows Hardware Certification Requirements to effectively ban most alternative operating systems on ARM-based devices that ship with Windows 8. On page 116 of Microsoft's The Certification Requirements, there is a clear instructions for hardware vendors that under no circumstance should the installation of another OS be permitted. MANDATORY: Disabling Secure MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems. This is assumingly the platform Ubuntu was looking for. So, does that mean Microsoft just killed all the possibilities of ARM-based Ubuntu Tablets? ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Microsoft Bans Linux On ARM PCs
http://www.muktware.com/news/3210/microsoft-bans-linux-arm-pcs When I talked to Linus Torvalds he said that Secure Boot is a good thing, but can be used in a bad ways. That's proving to be true. When Microsoft published The Certification Requirements for Windows 8 it was evident that the company wanted to use the secure boot to lock Linux out of such hardware, thus creating a Windows only hardware. The discovery lead to a strong protest from the FLOSS community. Microsoft allowed the non-ARM hardware to be able to run Linux if the hardware vendors chooses to allow that. But as we saw the arrival of ARM on desktop Microsoft wasted no time in revising its Windows Hardware Certification Requirements to effectively ban most alternative operating systems on ARM-based devices that ship with Windows 8. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Hindi Fonts In OpenSUSE
Hi, I made a switch from Ubuntu to openSUSE and can't see Hindi fonts very well. Especially that we also run a Hindi Site hindi.kalkion.com. I also can read messages typed in Hindi in Thunderbird. How do I improve rendering of Hindi fonts in openSUSE? Swapnil Bhartiya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Muktbase: A comprehensive database of Linux/FOSS People
Dear Friends, We are working on a new project on Muktware, on the lines on CrunchBase -- to create a comprehensive database of Linux Open Source companies, projects and companies MuktBase is an extensive and free database of Linux and Open Source/Free Software companies, people, projects and products. Muktbase People is a comprehensive directory of people [executives, founders, developers and advocates] from the Linux and Open Source/Free Software. If you are an active member of the open source world, you should be listed here for the benefit of the open source world. If you want to be listed in the Muktbase, please fill the following form. http://www.muktware.com/3184/muktbase-people-form If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me on editor_AT_muktware_DOT_com Swapnil Bhartiya Editor Muktware.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] US has become a dangerous place for software development: RMS
RT (Russia Today) yesterday conducted an interview with Richard M Stallman, the founder of Free Software Foundation and the writer of the world's most advance license GNU GPL. RT asked readers to ask questions and then they would pick questions for RMS. http://www.muktware.com/news/3056 We asked two questions on RT's Facebook page and both those questions were presented to RMS. Muktware: Do you think USA is becoming hostile to innovation and competition as the companies like Apple and Microsoft are gaming the system? RMS: I have to point out that innovation is not my highest value. Human rights are my highest values. So I don't to get into the dialogue that treats innovation as a primary goal. With software patents the US has become a dangerous place for software development, including innovative software development, because when a program is innovative, that means it has some new ideas in it. But it also has lots of well-known ideas in it. A large program combines thousands of ideas. So if you have some new ideas and you want to use them, in order to use them you have to combine them with a lot of other ideas that are well-known. And if you are not allowed to do that because those other ideas are patented, you can't use your new idea. Muktware: How much control should the USA have over the Internet? RMS: No more than anyone else. I don't think it will be safe to have any global control over the internet. because we could predict that that global control will work for the empire of the mega corporations and would attack human rights. Read more here: http://www.muktware.com/news/3056 -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] UID, Aadhar and Open Source
Does anyone have any info on what UID/Aadhar is using? They mention Middle-ware is open source, which may imply rest of the stack is proprietary/non-free. Also most contracts have gone to Wipro (Nilekani's company) and MS hub. Opps. Wipro must be read as Infosys. My bad. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] UID, Aadhar and Open Source
EFYTimes is clueless about what they write. They just re-post what others post. You have posted two links one is just promotion of their OSI Days which used to be LinuxAsia (changed because Microsoft, the 'sponsor' prolly did not want Linux name there). So we can credit Microsoft for killing a Linux event. Many foss leaders are still upset with the 4rth grade treatment they were given at the event. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] UID, Aadhar and Open Source
“We have also reduced licence cost for the world’s largest distributed deployment on thousands of CPU cores. We used OSS like Apache Hadoop, Hive, ZooKeeper, MySQL, Tomcat, Spring and Mule. So far, 60 million enrollments have been made in 18 months, and about 1 petabyte of data processed and archived.” The continued success of Aadhaar can promote the use of OSS in e-governance for large and complex systems, Balasubramanian added. What about the OS and the rest? Microsoft's Windows? The cost saved was handed over Microsoft? Infosys' mentor? BTW, Microsoft was a sponsor of the event as well. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Indian UID, Aadhar Project Is A Proprietary, Non Open Source Project?
http://www.muktware.com/bitsnbytes/2983 I worked on the story and found oss is only a smoke screen. The entire UID project seems to be a pure Microsoft stack. This document provides step-by-step instructions to install the AADHAAR Enrolment Client and Biometric components needed for Biometrics capturing. The document is not intended to be a user manual for the AADHAAR Enrolment Client. The application has been built to work with the given pre-requisites. 1.1 Installation Pre-requisites • Operating System: Windows XP SP3 OR Windows 7 (only 32-bit editions) • Windows Installer 4.5 • Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 SP1 • Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Express • Aadhaar QSS SDK Setup • Vendor Device Manager You can see how the UID project has made Microsoft technologies mandatory. You can't use it without Microsoft. There is no mention of Linux in this important document. That clearly states that other than the already popular and powerful open source technologies such as Apache and MySQL rest of the stack is proprietary. Calling UID/Aadhar and Open Source project is like calling a Tata tractor a Mercedes just because one of its four tyres is a Mercedes tyre. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [OT]: FLOSS Start-Ups In India?
Hi, We are planning a series of stories and interviews of open source start-ups from India (Linus' interview triggered the need). So, if you know any such start-up please let me know. You can contact me at Muktware.com. -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] UID, Aadhar and Open Source
Does anyone have any info on what UID/Aadhar is using? They mention Middle-ware is open source, which may imply rest of the stack is proprietary/non-free. Also most contracts have gone to Wipro (Nilekani's company) and MS hub. Can someone provide some concrete info or pointers? -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] America Heading Towards The Internet Dictatorship?
The greedy Hollywood is about to change the world as we know it. The entertainment industry which is failing to keep up with the innovation and is relying on Flintstone's model is conspiring with the US congress to break the Internet and freedom on the web. http://www.muktware.com/blogs/2948 -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Steve Jobs Exposed, Wanted To Destroy Android
In a publicity stunt to create buzz around the upcoming biography written by Walter Isaacson, some stories from the book have been released. One, which was certain to make round on the Internet was Steve Jobs' misplaced belief that Google stole Android from Apple. http://www.muktware.com/news/2765 -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/muktwarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware Google+ : https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Ilugc] Steve Jobs Exposed, Wanted To Destroy Android
Only Linux and open source does not have such controversies. And a bunch of idiots were going after the life of RMS for criticizing dictator from Cupertino. I think 2011 was important ... Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya and *Cupertino*. Swapnil Muktware.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] Linux Open Source Jobs Site Announced
We are launching a section of Muktware[1] called - Linux and Open Source Jobs. Under this section, you can search and apply for Linux and Open Source Jobs. If you are an employer or looking for full time employees, experts for contract-based projects, freshers and trainees, you can post job openings and find right candidates for your firm. If you are an engineering student looking for Jobs in the Linux and Open Source industry, you can search for appropriate jobs and apply with one click. The service is available for free of cost. Why to advertise your jobs with Muktware? Muktware has a massive reach in the global market, with a strong presence in India. So, your advertisements will reach out to a wider audience. Since Muktware is an web-magazine we reach out to those who are not aware of regional or Linux specific job sites. Thus Muktware's jobs site offers you a coverage wider than any jobs only site can offer. Its extremely easy to post jobs on Muktware. Just register with us and start posting jobs. Select Employer as the Account time during registration to be able to post jobs. [1] http://www.muktware.com/user [2] http://jobs.muktware.com/ [3] Register http://www.muktware.com/user If you have any query, please write to us at editor at muktware.com -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/mukwtarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial] Linux Tips Tricks
Hi, We are now starting to publish useful tips tricks for Linux and other foss projects. We would like to invite the community to send us tips and tricks. We will pay per tip trick. If you are interested in writing, please contact edi...@muktware.com -- bSwapnil Bhartiya/bbr Editor: Muktware.combr Skype: No Way...its non-free. Looking for alternativesbr Facebook: http://facebook.com/mukwtarebr Twitter: http://twitter.com/muktware ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [cross]Linux Mint 11: Manual Table Of Content
After Fedora 15, we have created a comprehensive Linux Mint Manual for users. It is a very simple guide which will helps users to migrate from Windows or other operating systems to Linux Mint with greater ease. It also helps you in upgrading to the latest version of Linux Mint along with a detailed guide about how to manage your Linux Mint. You can read the manual here. We invite you to translate it into local Indian languages. http://www.muktware.com/man/1254 Swapnil Bhartiya ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Query
Would suggest using youtube-dl command line tool on linux. Simple and cool. Tell some app so that novice can also use. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Query
you can use the GUI version of youtube-dl - https://launchpad.net/youtube-dl-gui or http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/uuntube-50878.shtml , more and more. I think this article might help you - http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442454-youtube-tools-for-the-linux-desktop Great. Thanks. Swapnil Muktware.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Query
I would like to know how to download videos through DamnVid (in ubuntu 10.04) from youtube, I entered the url but the downloading couldn't take place The best solution is use MiniTube app which has a download button. Swapnil ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [Commercial][Cross-post] FOSS Yellow Pages; List Your Firm
Hi Foss friend, As I promised in the previous email. We are announcing a new service for the Indian FOSS Indusry and professionals. Here is the draft. At the launch of Muktware.com we promised to add more features in the coming weeks. We are announcing the launch of Muktware Yellow Pages Network (MYPN) for the FOSS industry. This feature is available for FREE of cost to all FOSS players. *What is Muktware Yellow Pages Network?* Muktware Yellow Pages Network is a powerful tool to market FOSS products and services. *Features:* - Free listing on the Muktware Yellow Pages Network (MYPN) - This FREE service will ensure your presence across the Web through search engines. - Comprehensive contact details so that your customers can reach you easily. - Option to upload your logo. - Option to be listed under more than one category. - Your firm will be searchable through various means – name of the firm, location and area of specialization. We will keep improving these features over time to serve you better. *How does it benefit businesses* Muktware is the one-stop-shop for the Indian FOSS industry. It offers high exposure among customers, clients, partners and big players. Since Muktware is also a news/content and advocacy platform thus your firm will be visible to a much more wider audience than any 'niche' Foss Yellow Pages. We are inviting submission/application for* Muktware Yellow Pages Network.*http://www.muktware.com/submit/muktware_yellow_pages/submission *Click here http://www.muktware.com/submit/muktware_yellow_pages/submission*to list your business now! We will soon be launching Foss Professional feature for individual Foss consultant/experts. Swapnil Bhartiya Muktware.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [commercial][cross-post] Launch of FOSS Site Muktware
Hi friends, I have been working as a foss journalist for over 6 years now. I am glad to share with you that we are launching 'muktware.com', a complete FOSS and Linux website. In addition to regular sections (which you can see on the site) we will be adding more feature in the coming week which include: 1. Job Postings. If you have a job opening at you company you can publish it on Muktware.com 2. We realize should create a comprehensive directory of Indian Foss Professionals. The major focus of this feature is exposure. Potential clients/employers can scan the database and connect with you. 3. Event postings. If you are planning an event, you can post it on Muktware.com thus reaching out to more visitors. 4. Foss Yellow Pages. A comprehensive list of small and big Foss Firms, consultants and services. 5. Mailing Lists, Projects and much more. We are also working on creating a comprehensive directory of various Foss related mailing lists and projects so that it is easier for the community to reach out to right people. You can send inputs about the above mentioned features to the editor. All these features will always remain 'free' (as in beer) for the community members. Please have a look at Muktware.com and share with us your valuable inputs. Swapnil Bhartiya PS: Muktware runs on GLAMP stack, Drupal and releases all its content under CC License. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Why I'm right to use the word 'hacker', and will carry on using it
Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant of Sophos, has responded to my blog asking not to use word hackers for criminals. What is your opinion? Uh-oh. I've really annoyed Swapnil Bhartiya. He's written a blog posthttp://www.katonda.com/blog/1090/sophos-thinks-windows-computers-hackers-are-criminalsat Katonda which, amongst other things, takes me to task for referring to cybercriminals as hackers. Bhartiva's complaint is one that many in the IT field share - that the media has taken the word hacker, which used to mean simply someone who was a computer enthusiast, and now use it to mean someone who breaks into computer systems, writes malware or causes other forms of online mischief. I have some sympathy with Bhartiva's pedantry (after all, I'm the chap who blogged at length about how we should all say Trojan horses rather than Trojanshttp://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2008/07/17/is-it-a-trojan-or-a-trojan-horse/), but he and other zealots for the preservation of the older definition of the word hacker are missing one fact. http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/04/26/word-hacker-carry/ -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] iBUS needs restart
Hi, Anyone able to find a patch to the iBUS bug wherein you have to restart iBus every now and then? I found iBus better than SCIM, but this restart thing is annoying. Wishes -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! World's First Hindi Science Fiction Website Runs on FOSS http://hindi.kalkion.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Hindi Fonts to Unicode converter
Is there any .deb package for fonts to unicode converter for Hindi? I have been struggling a lot of Kalkion Hindi. Thanks -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Fonts to Unicode converter
Try padmaa plugin for Mozilla. Thanks. Will try, but it means Browser dependency. Which is not good and I cant force people to use FF only. Swapnil -- Mahesh T. Pai || http://[paivakil|fizzard].blogspot.com End Users are just friends who haven't submitted a patch yet. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Perl Developers In India
Hi, I visited CeBIT this year and met the Perl community. They are very much interested in getting in touch with the Indian Perl community. If there are Perl developers, please let me know and I will put you in direct contact with the team. Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya Editor Katonda.com KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Hindi (Devnagri) In Text Console?
Is there any way we can use Hindi in Text console? I met with Klaus and that was a problem he was facing with Hindi. I may be helping him with Hindi version of Knoppix/Adriane Knoppix. -- Swapnil Bhartiya --- KALKION.COM http://kalkion.com India's Major Science Fiction Website running on FOSS tools! ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes
Is the IP address you specify in the same *subnet* as the gateway's IP address and that gateways IP is not being masked by the subnet mask? Did you try editing the configuration files directly? (/etc/sysconfig/network in openSuSE) -- Goldwyn Gateway IP is not being masked by subnet mask, it remains the one I entered. But the subnet gets replaced by the default gateway IP. I almost reached to the point of start using F10 insted of Ubuntu, but thanks to the Fedora Team, I am back to Ubuntu for their bugs. No, I did not try editing config file, coz I was about to recommend and install F10 on a senior writer's machine, he may not want to learn such stuf at the age 82. It must be GUI based :P Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes
Thanks to you we also know that LFY folks don't subscribe to the idea of filing bug reports. Lead on. With all due respect, Sankarshan, now where does LFY come into picture? Did I post the issue as LFY member? I don't know who you work for and it doesn't matter to me at all. And since I use Ubuntu I am registered member or Launchpad and have filed a few bug reports there -- but I am _not_ a techie. Also, I post here as Swapnil, who is a writer and a passionate GNU/Linux _user_. I will not appreciate anything pointing at my connections with LFY. Period. -- Swapnil Bhartiya Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes
Nope the mistake is mine and I did just point it out in a response to Atanu separately. Thanks :-) I am writing a science fiction on FOSS, hope you will like it. You do write technical content and knowing how software development in a FOSS scenario works is kind of expected. A writer and a passionate GNU/Linux user would be aware of how to ensure that his/her problems are logged into appropriate defect tracking systems *and* end up helping others - wouldn't you agree that it is the basis on which FOSS develops ? Sure, I agree with you. I posted it here, as I was pretty sure that someone already had a solution out here. If someone suggests a solution here then it would help many others on the list who are facing similar issues. It is good to know that you do file bugs on LP. But, filing bugs does not require one a techie (whatever that may mean). So, if you are interested in strawman arguments feel free. I would not agree to the concept pushed across by Atanu and you that bug filing systems are not meant for users. They could do with enhancements and simplifications, but for that too you need to file requests. Not just throw up hands and say 'I am not technical'. My claim that I am not techie was not an expression of throwing hands; it meant that despite not being a techie (I don't have to be a techie to use PC), I do my best to solve my issues ;-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Fedora 10 Subnet mask changes
Hi! I installed Fedora 10, but when I enter 255.255.255.0 in the subnet mask, it automatically changes to the default gateway address, I am using static IP setting and am not using the new network manager. Please suggest. -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Alienware Survey For Linux Machines
Hi! I am now sure if this is a new or old survey, but they are kind of 'trying to gauge the level of interest consumers like you have in buying a new computer that features a Linux-based operating system.' Alienware offer powerful machines, taking that survey will give them more reason to offer Linux based machines. http://www.alienware.com/Surveys/AlienSurvey.aspx?Id=29607129825#SurveyCtl_QuestionLink_2625 Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
And all this without Windows vista and MS works, they are giving Free DOS. They quoted the price at Rs. 34,802 (including some taxes, they gave me rebate on 4% VAT). But if you look at the left most configuration in the link, you will see the price at Rs. 35,900 (exclusive of taxes). So, you see, there is not much of a difference in price. I dont get it. Are windows and MS works worth this small amount only? No, actually they are not even worth that much ;-) I just got a Dell XPS M1330, and Ubuntu works flawless on it Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu
Re: warranty - check with the vendor directly. I would suggest not go by other user's experience. I guess you are right. I have written to the Dell support, let's see what they say. I got a mail from Dell, regarding the same and it says: According to the email received, I understand that you are trying to install Linux operating system on the machine, and you want to know if your warranty will be effected or not. The warranty is for the hardware and not for the software.The hardware warranty would not be effected. So, those who are planning to wipe out Widows Vistha may go ahead :P Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu
Re: warranty - check with the vendor directly. I would suggest not go by other user's experience. I guess you are right. I have written to the Dell support, let's see what they say. The current configuration tool is currently not available for your operating system/browser combination. http://supportapj.dell.com/support/topics/topic.aspx/ap/shared/suppor t/my_systems_info/en/details?c=inl=ens=gen Don't they support full support for Linux users :P That may be true for models that vendors ship with pre-installed Linux. I have a Toshiba laptop - all it's devices works well under Linux but Toshiba does not support Linux. Dell, has been very supportive of Linux, the entire drive to dump Vista and get Ubuntu pre loaded lappies was one of their best initiatives. Only they work closely with Ubuntu to further enhance the eye candy factor and keep Apple at bay...the increasing market of Apple is a new threat. I know I will have to take a hit on the price that I paid for a forced vista and some functionality by using Linux, but I am willing to pay that price. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu
I don't think so. Atleast IBM / Lenevo don't care what you are running. I had bought a T42 back in 2006. Its hdd failed few months back, recently called them about that problem. Also about the screen and combi-drive. I had removed Windows XP 4 days after I had bought the laptop. The dude came, put all new parts and left. Didn't care what was installed or what I wanted to install . He used some hitachi hdd testing software to test the hdd, at the first error block, he stopped the test and changed the hdd :). Cheers! Pradeepto Thanks Pradeepto :-) By the way while checking the Dell site I came across this stupid error The current configuration tool is currently not available for your operating system/browser combination. http://supportapj.dell.com/support/topics/topic.aspx/ap/shared/support/my_systems_info/en/details?c=inl=ens=gen Don't they support full support for Linux users :P Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu
Hi friends, I just got a shiny new Dell XPS M1330 Laptop. I am amased to see Intrepid Ibex running on the machine flawlessly. Every piece of hardware works fine -- webcam (with Ekiga) the multimedia touch keys, bluetooth, (I connected both of my Nokia N series phones and used flawlessly), even the remote and the Bluetooth mouse worked without a glitch. Now, I did all that with the Live CD. I wanna format the HDD, get rid of Vista Permium, and install Ubuntu. My concern is will that void the warrantee? I will call up the customer care to check, but was just exited to share with you the awesome GNU/Linux support this cool machine has. We can put this machine in the list of fully Free Software compatible :-) -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
currently my thinking too. how the music streams through the air to your two biological and analog ears does not matter, so long as you get juiced up with good-enough quality. check this 'roll your own ipod (sort of)' approach, based on a tip kishore bhargava gave me last year: http://www.flickr.com/photos/niyam/2570134330/ the catch, it needs a power-adaptor, but you can get a battery-adaptor, which is a bit clunky. the good stuff: drag and drop any media file with freedom. Rockbox or iPod Linux is not available for iPod Classic 80 GB yet. I tried installing ipodLinux on mine, but it crashed so thougt better not to mess with firmware. Or is it now available? yup, so while you bypass ipod's restrictive iTunes, and enjoy your ogg, apple uses your dollars to develop and strengthen its DRM-based devices, software, and services. regards niyam Completely agree. Let's bycott Apple completely. And I trust you also will not endorse Macs as apesome hardware-software integration anymore ;-) I wanted a new lappie, instead of going for an 'iSucker', I choose Dell XPS 1330. Know what in US, it comes preloaded with Ubuntu. Here I will wipe 'Widows Vishtha[1]' and install Ubuntu Intrepid. Currently I use GTKpod and GPIXpod to sync my iPod, which I, unfortunately, bought before I set out on Foss journey. And you know what the name of my iPod is Ubuntu, with a big Ubuntu Logo at the backside. Apple just sucks. Swapnil [1] Vishtha means potty in Sanskrit. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
the ubuntu you use is totally inspired by apple. check mark shuttleworth on this. He said in his blog that they should increase the icandy element in Ubuntu so as to leave Macs behind. There is nothing in Ubuntu that is inspired by the iSucker. Ubuntu is plain Debian, with some fixes and a bit bleeding edge. also, i am seriously thinking of buying one of those vastly-overpriced macbooks, much as i dislike apple's policies and pricing. errr... if advocates like you will start buying iSuckers what will happen to the rest of the lot? How can we ask to stay away from non-free stuff when we ourself use them? Will not we lose the right to advocate further? I will never endorse you buying an Apple. Check config. They are even crapier than a low end Dell/HP. HP now is more Linux friendly, and Dell too. I don't agree with your purchase decision. But its your pocket. And apple is not Muft and Mukt. I am utterly disappointed :-( I dont want you to become iNiyam iBhushan :D i visited the 'imagine' store at ansal plaza today to check them out, but they are expected in by the first week of november. want to check them out with a bootable ubuntu cd. Avoid non-free hardware as much as possible. Its the sucking non-free hardware that makes life hell for developers and us users! Check what Indian users say about Apple's products: http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/28294/news.htm http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/28355/news.htm http://www.efytimes.com/efytimes/28149/news.htm regards niyam Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Games In Ubuntu
I just came across this new site (launched in September) Play Deb. I guess its paradise for gamers. Anyone tried this? http://www.playdeb.net/available_games.html -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
The 6th gen classic is not supported, no. Full details on support are here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort manoj -- Thanks Manoj :-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
so *when* i *have* to use, should i give the money to apple or microsoft? My suggestion. Sponsor a FOSS project. The iCrap will cost you some 1 lakh. That is good money to sponsor a set of developers and you will have an awesome product at your hands. i am considering downgrading myself Nopes. Not again. Already you have become iNiyam. There is a song by Joey Mcintyre -- Stay The Same! Listen it and you will remain Niyam :P Niyam ke liye koi niyam nahi hai kya :D :D Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
1) specialized gear comes with firmware the hardware vendors don't share or reveal. Build pressure, so they budge. You have that power. c'mon, we can't get the full capabilities of commodity 3d graphics cards to work yet, or even flash or full acrobat equivalents. what i'm talking about will definitely take a while longer, if it all. in the meantime, my biological clock is ticking. i'd like to complete some creative projects before i croak. Come, or dear, you are still young -- at least at heart ;-) 01. okay, even at EFY, we are not 100% foss-migrated. I don't represent EFY in LUG. Its me Swapnil Bhartiya, or you can call me Arnie. But for your info 80% of EFY runs on GNU/Linux. But again I am not here to talk about EFY. I don't know where EFY came from? End of dicussion on EFY. 02. you could also help the next LinuxAsia OSIWeek become more foss-centric Help? We are the team! Its only FOSS Centric. you, swapnil, can be the change you wish to see in the world. Thanks for your trust in me. I hope I wont disappoint you. I always looked up at you and it was sad for me to see you putting down gears. But I understand what you mean and your helplessness. But, endorsing Mac or Widows here will dicourage people like me. You can keep that as skeleton in your closet :D inspire me. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] oh wait! why buy a mac, when i could buy a bmw? atleast it'll come with Linux pre-installed. http://www.autonews.com/article/20081023/COPY/310239911/-1/SUPPLIERS Wow. Nice. Thanks for the link. I will read. Its quite interesting. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android
finally! the exciting news and development i've been waiting to see happen, all through 2008. will the story of the pc versus mac, and the macOS versus windowsOS, repeat all over again? Can't say for sure. despite cutting my teeth on apple and macs, i am all for android. here is a first heads-up that should get all of you agog about the Next Big Thing (NBT). How has your experience been with G1? I am excited to hear from the one who has touched the device. my conclusion: the human hand was designed to also unclench its fist, open its palm, and give and receive. a closed proprietary paradigm won't make a digital handheld in the age of freedom. Means? apple hubris all over again. except this time, the world has learnt its lessons even if apple hasn't. thus we'll be wary of microsoft-like predatory greed, and embrace muft and mukt paradigms instead. Which lesson? regards niyam Thanks Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Apple a bigger threat than Microsoft (was) Re: apple iphone versus android
secondly, we all tend to forget the mac hardware is an excellent device on which to run debian and especially ubuntu. Mac only looks good. I used to use G4 for film editing and it used to crash if you open Word while you work on FCP. that's what you see most people do at foss conferences. great and well-engineered hardware for running the world's greatest and free operating system: GNU/Linux. And I thought developers used Apple machines so that they can test their application on multiple platform? thirdly, the industry's well-kept open-secret (!): the mac, well, er.. inspires the next features and eye-candy for everyone. if you have to build a better and a free world, you could start from existing paradigms implemented poorly and at times pathetically, or you could start from those implemented brilliantly and imaginatively, and sometimes, far-ahead of the rest of the pack. Its just Steve Jobs, plain and simple! The company has NO vision, but Jobs. He created Pixar, he created NEXT. Once Jobs is gone, which I dont personally wish, Apple is gone. Coz apple, to me, is all about I candy. fourthly, (in my case) when i have to choose a proprietary software, say for running a specialised piece of hardware ( an industry measuring instrument or something, or even a specific printer until replaced by a foss-friendly one, or specialized music-production gear, or audio/video gear) where the foss world has catching up to do, while my life's running out, i'd rather use mac than windows. Mac only looks Good, you can get a better Dell Machine with same much better comfig than any sulking Mac. Except FCP, all major A//V softwrae AVid, VElocity, Media 100 and Adobe Premiere run on Wine-Dose. fifth, when all else fails, and you wish to be platform-agnostic, you could triple-boot a mac with all three operating systems. I don't want to be platform indepentent. I want to be Mac and WIne-dose free :D Cheers Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android
Looks like Google has imbibed enough wisdom about screwing developers from Apple. If you write a FOSS application you may be be able to use all the features of the Android. And G reserves the right to remotely, unilaterally disable applications on your phone if they (G) don't like them: Regards, -- Raju Apple is setting some very evil practices. While Google at least acknowledged that in its license agreement, Apple did not even admit existence of the kill switch unless some users woke up to see their intsalled application is gone. On a PC i am free to install what ever U like, WHF, Google and Apple should control my choice of application. Google is heading towads becoming another Microsoft -- withe a good face. As of now it appears as a control on so called malicious applications, but this is beginning of new 'control' mechanism. In this case where is Google's do no evil policy? Here M$ appears to be a good boy as non of their phones - 'Widows' Mobile has any such kill switch. Google and Apple are starting a new front, it should be severely criticised where ever possible, in every new item, in every blog. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] apple iphone versus android
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like Google has imbibed enough wisdom about screwing developers from Apple. If you write a FOSS application you may be be able to use all the features of the Android. And G reserves the right to remotely, unilaterally disable applications on your phone if they (G) don't like them: Regards, -- Raju Apple is setting some very evil practices. While Google at least acknowledged that in its license agreement, Apple did not even admit existence of the kill switch unless some users woke up to see their intsalled application is gone. On a PC i am free to install what ever U like, WHF, Google and Apple should control my choice of application. Google is heading towads becoming another Microsoft -- withe a good face. As of now it appears as a control on so called malicious applications, but this is beginning of new 'control' mechanism. In this case where is Google's do no evil policy? Here M$ appears to be a good boy as non of their phones - 'Widows' Mobile has any such kill switch. Google and Apple are starting a new front, it should be severely criticised where ever possible, in every new item, in every blog. Swapnil *news item -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
Well, one of the options is not to use the Ipod because of its restrictive nature!! Other devices like those from Creative, Cowon and even Mio are linux-friendly and are well supported in Amarok (in addition to Rhythmbox) With Warm Regards, Thanks Shiv, but as I said in the original post I was looking for an open source iPod manager for wine-doze machine to persuade a user to slowly move towards GNU/Linux. But one of the friends told offline about Songbird. I am going to install that on his machine and take him a step closer towards building his confidence and then format his machine with Ubuntu ;-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Connect Internet With Nokia N70 on Ubuntu
I have Nokia N70, with Airtel GPRS activated. Can someone please suggest how to connect it through Ubuntu 8.04 to access the Internet. Regards Swapnil -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Connect Internet With Nokia N70 on Ubuntu
4. Check for other settings it should be similar to values given below ISDN = 0 New PPPD = yes Phone = *99***1# Modem = /dev/ttyACM0 Username = a Password = a Baud = 9600 Should I copy paste this? Should I put my phone number or as displayed here? in my case Baud was 46000, should I change it to 9600? I have changed user name and password. But I cannot connect. On running wdial, my phone dialed and a showed a call being made. This is the response I got [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# wvdial -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 -- Cannot get information for serial port. -- Initializing modem. -- Sending: ATZ ATZ OK -- Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1, IP, airtelgprs.com AT+CGDCONT=1, IP, airtelgprs.com OK -- Modem initialized. -- Sending: ATDT9910956518 -- Waiting for carrier. ATDT9910956518 DELAYED Username /password may change for you. The modem device also may change. 5. Now type wvdial from the terminal and the GPRS should be connected It works for me but with the Motorola L7 . It should work for you with Nokia N70 too. Let me know if you face any problem. -- cheers amit ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Connect Internet With Nokia N70 on Ubuntu
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Amit Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wvdialconf create will create your configuration file. I wrongly stated in previous mails tht wvdial will create the configuration file. -- cheers amit Thanks Amit, I did exactly the same, here is the outcome. But I was not able to browse. Do I need to diable network manager ? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# wvdial -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60 -- Cannot get information for serial port. -- Initializing modem. -- Sending: ATZ ATZ OK -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 OK -- Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1, IP, airtelgprs.com AT+CGDCONT=1, IP, airtelgprs.com OK -- Modem initialized. -- Sending: ATDT*99***1# -- Waiting for carrier. ATDT*99***1# CONNECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] } [EMAIL PROTECTED]}} }*} } g}%~ -- Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] } [EMAIL PROTECTED]}} }*} } g}%~ -- PPP negotiation detected. -- Starting pppd at Wed Oct 22 07:34:30 2008 -- Pid of pppd: 28753 -- Using interface ppp0 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- local IP address 117.96.86.79 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- remote IP address 10.6.6.6 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- primary DNS address 202.56.250.5 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- secondary DNS address 202.56.250.6 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] Caught signal 2: Attempting to exit gracefully... -- Terminating on signal 15 -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- Connect time 3.1 minutes. -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][08] -- pppd: ا[06][08][18]�[06][08][08]�[06][0 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Free iPod Manager For Wine-doze?
I have several friends who are still stuck with Wine-dose, while I am slowing getting them install FOSS solutions so as to make them comfy with foss before asking them to migrate to GNU/Linux, I cannot find any FOSS iPod Manager. Can anyone help? Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Superbug In Trash?
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean you opened Trash by opening nautilus - Go - Trash and did cut-paste from there and it didn't work, Right but when you opened /home/youruser/.Trash it worked? Which distro are you using? No I unhide the hidden .Trash folder of that partition and found the deleted data there and cut paste into another folder of the same partition. But I c In Ubuntu 8.04, /home/user/.Trash is no longer there. Instead its now in /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files Right Any suggestion on the same? Or should I file a bug report on Launchpad? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
I trust most of the friends are aware of this. There has been a lot of doubts over using Ubuntu on servers. But recently Wikimedia and Internet Achieve have started to migrate to Ubuntu servers. I guess this will build confidence in those who want to use Ubuntu on servers. Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Restore Data From Trash[was] Superbug In Trash?
Try moving instead of copy paste. It will work. it means - you need cut paste .. ___ I tried that too, but it did not work. It said, not enough space. But, when I tried to cut paste from the .Trash folder, it worked. I suspect its some kind of bug. Could someone please explain what's wrong? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Someone was asking about making presentations online (can't find that mail thread right now so making a new chain). I just came across this site http://www.ulteo.com that will give online access to Open Office 3.0. What's more is that it gives access to many other open source apps online, e.g. firefox,kopete, thunderbird, etc.. What's more is that they claim that there virtual app subsystem is open-source as well. (I haven't downloaded their CDs to check this though) Check it out. Thanks Shantanu Doesn't Google Docs do that too? Swapnil Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Restore Data From Trash[was] Superbug In Trash?
You mean you opened Trash by opening nautilus - Go - Trash and did cut-paste from there and it didn't work, Right but when you opened /home/youruser/.Trash it worked? Which distro are you using? No I unhide the hidden .Trash folder of that partition and found the deleted data there and cut paste into another folder of the same partition. But I c In Ubuntu 8.04, /home/user/.Trash is no longer there. Instead its now in /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files Right -- Best Regards Vivek Kapoor http://exain.com . Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Doesn't Google Docs do that too? Yes, but it's closed source _ Does that really matter for online applications? Even we use Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Flickr etc. which are all closed source? Just curious? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Swapnil, Google docs is very different from ulteo as I wrote earlier as a reply to narendra as well. Ulteo gives you a VNC/Remote desktop like access to a linux desktop (KDE environs), with native/unchanged access to full-featured open source apps like open office, firefox, kopete, etc etc. Here you are _not_ working in a web-based interface, instead it is the same as, e.g., you boot into your PC, double click on open office writer and write away. (Basically, if you remove the window decorations around the browser window, you will not even notice that you are working in a browser, it will be like a virtual desktop) -Shantz Dear Shantz, I seem to miss that email of yours. I apologize. But Ultero seems quite interesting, do you thing there is a story angle around that? I can try to write a feature around this so as to let more people know about this. What say you? Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Yes it matters as much for online applications, why wouldn't it. But, it really matters on people's perspective. Some people are fine with using closed source apps, others aren't. Here the discussion was on open source online application, which google apps isn't. I 100 % agree you on this. Thanks :-) -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Yes it matters as much for online applications, why wouldn't it. But, it really matters on people's perspective. Some people are fine with using closed source apps, others aren't. Here the discussion was on open source online application, which google apps isn't. Mehul, Is there any resource when we can find all the online alternatives too so that I can use them in my stories while taking about other solutions so as to spread awareness about such efforts? Or what is your personal opinion? Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Office 3.0 Online
Who is we, kemo sabe? we was: me my family and my kids :P. JK. By we I meant ordinary public. I think it matters, me. But then, I don't use the services you mention. manoj Honestly, this thread by Shantanu has provided me with some very valuable information. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Science Fiction Foss
Location? -- Regards, Sudev Barar Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Restore Data From Trash
I need a little tip. If my partition size is say 40 GB and I mistakingly delete 30 GB of data which now rests in Trash folder. Now, is there any way to 'restore' that data into the partition? As Trash being part of same partition if I try to copy paste data in the same partition, I can't do as there is only 10GB Free space as rest of 30GB is being acquired by the data I deleted. I remember in Windows there was simple option of restore anything from Trash. Please suggest :-) I use GNOME. -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Science Fiction Foss
Location? Varanasi, UP. Regards Swapnil Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1921] [OT] (possibly) Most user friendly Distro for non-techies
Knoppix is the best live distro seen by me till date. The quality put together by one man is really amazing. No doubt at all. Knoppix just rocks. What has he done with the Compiz Fuzion, its incredibly fast and lightweight??? Personally I admire Knopper and Adriane a lot. They are awesome couple very dedicated and very inspiring! Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
Pappu ka CD. I have been reading this thread for a while, but didn't have much to say. Mr Yatnatti is raising some genuine and good points. Hope some conclusion will come out, sooner or later. I am basically a writer to can't suggest anything. I just saw the Dark Knight last night and I can recall a dialogue: : You just couldn't let me go could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible aren't you? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. :-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 10 Examples to Make Your Linux Prompt like Angelina Jolie
On 10/11/08, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 awesome bash tweaks you can't miss: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/ Cheers -- Wow. This is something I could cal Khool! :-) Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
What _is_ the basic issue here? manoj Manoj, Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Nandeep Mali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to catch my point: You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever. I hope you understand what I meant... Swapnil By the 'fun' part do you mean: http://donotfeedtheenergybeast.com/ ? Couldn't resist... putting this link is fun... You are smart guy ;-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Science Fiction Foss
Dear Friends, Today, there is as little as hair-thin difference between science fiction and reality. Every other day, we come across studies and products which seem to bring alive imaginations of science fiction writers. In India also science fiction has been present in its own form. To complement science fiction writing in India, National Council of Science and Technology Communication in association with Indian Science Fiction Writers' Association (ISFWA), Faizabad and Indian Association of Science Fiction Studies (IASFS), Vallore, is organising the first-ever national discussion on science fiction – its past, present and future. Date from 10 -14 November, 2008 I was supposed to attend the event and high-light the possibilities of FOSS in science fiction as well as educated writers about Creative Commons, but due to some personal issues I may not be able to attend. If there is someone in LUG, who wants to touch upon the subject may let me know so that I can connect him/her to the person concerned. Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS Contest To Encourage Students
The Seneca College Wiki has a list of problems from various Projects that have been put up. A similar list could lend itself well to a contest 'perhaps'. Dear Sankarshan, Thanks. Could you please share the link of the wiki page? Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] which mailing list sending/management/archiving software used for ilugd ?
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, How are you ? Hope all well. Can someone tell me which mailing list sending/management/archiving software used for ilugd ? Highly confidential and utterly classified can't be told. As they say in movies, I can't tell you this, but if I do then I will have to kill you :P Hope someone will give a better and 'non-funny' answer :-) Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] How we can help Lenny!
Dear friends, I don't know whether I should be sending such mails or not, but since I am on Debian list, as I am Deb user. I am forwarding it. If we may help the Deb team. Please forgive me if I did something wrong by sending this mail to the list. Swapnil Disclaimer: I am not part of Debian development team. Hi! You probably noticed by now, that Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 aka Lenny hasn't been released in September. Well, that's a shame, but very easy to explain: Too many release critical bugs[1]. 1: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/graph-large.png Well, our release team coordinated several transitions, took care of release goals, but it's pretty hard to estimate, how fast RC bugs will be fixed, and apparently they were a bit to optimistic :( The big question is: What can you do, to help release Lenny at least in this quarter? That's pretty easy: Fix rc-bugs, take care, that the fixed packages are migrated to Lenny, do upgrade tests, document problems in the release-notes. Pretty simple, isn't it? For users (or better: For everyone) = Even as a simple user (aren't we all just users?) you may help getting Lenny released. Some things you can do: * If you are running stable (aka Etch), you could consider upgrading to Lenny and see, if everything works fine. Currently there are no detailed release notes documenting the procedure, so you best way to test upgrades are to: 1. Make backups 2. Change your /etc/apt/sources.list 3. Run aptitude update to get information about new packages 4. Run aptitude install dpkg aptitude apt to install the newest package management 5. Run aptitude full-upgrade If something goes wrong / something unexpected happens, please report it. If you already know a specific package, report a bug against that package. If you don't know, please report a bug describing the problem you experienced to the upgrade-reports package. If your problem is something, which can't be fixed properly, but should be documented (e.g. hardware support regressions, packages no longer available) please report a bug against the release-notes package (Bonus points if you not only report the bug, but also supply a paragraph to be added to the release notes). * Speaking of the release notes[2]: You can take a look at the bugs reported against the release notes and see if you can help there, e.g. by writing a paragraph describing a problem. 2: http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes * Install the package devscripts[3] (you'll need the version provided by backports.org[4], and run the script rc-alert --include-dists TU. You'll get a list of release critical bugs open for one of the packages you have installed. Guessing that you have them installed, because you are using them and are interested in them, you should have a very high interest to get this bugs fixed :) 3: http://packages.debian.org/devscripts 4: http://www.backports.org/ You can try to help, by trying to reproduce them and reporting that to the bug report. There are even some easy bugs, where the maintainer hasn't found the time, yet to fix it. Bug 497290[5] for example didn't need deep technical skills. It just needed someone with some time to collect the needed data for the copyright file. 5: http://bugs.debian.org/497290 * If you speak a language other than English, you might consider joining the translation efforts. While it is to late to translate the debian-installer or the installation guide to a new language for Lenny (perhaps for the next release then?), you could start translating the release notes to a not yet supported language. If you are willing to do so (which can be quite time consuming, especially in the final phase), please contact either your localization team[6] or the debian doc mailing list[7] if there's no local mailing list. 6: http://lists.debian.org/i18n.html 7: http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/ See? Even as a simple user without deeper technical knowledge you can help us getting Lenny in shape to be released. If you have technical knowledge: Very good! You might want to read the next section, too, and see what applies to you, there :) For maintainers (Or: For everyone with some more experience) === It basically boils down to two things: If your packages have RC bugs open in Lenny fix them and take care, that the fix will propagate to Lenny. If your packages don't have RC bugs open, fix someone else's RC bug. Surely you don't think, the release team will fix the remaining rc bugs, do you? And surely you understand, that your shiny rc bug free packages are kind of useless, if they aren't released? To search for bugs to be fixed, take a look at the unofficial rc bugs thingy[8]. The URL lists RC bugs open in both Sid and Lenny. Obviously they should be fixed ASAP. If no one takes care about these packages, they might be removed from Lenny (if possible). 8: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=bothsortby=packagesfullcomment=on
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Airtel blocking IRC - Undernet
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Shiv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Ive noticed that Airtel is blocking access to the Undernet IRC servers. I am able to connect to freenode. Any ideas why, and how does one go around it using Chatzilla and/or Tor? I faced similar problem with Sify, bugged them alot but of no use. Then I found from my own experience to open ports for the corresponding service through firewall and it worked, I Use Ubuntu and i was not able to browse whereas I could do everything else. So, I allowed port 80 and things are as smooth as hot knife on butter. Hope same will work for you, if you have yet not found answer to your problem. But I hope you already did. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Windows users love open source software
I found this interesting read. http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33519 An excerpt: No one would be surprised at that given the popularity of Firefox (found on 85% of the machines scanned), Samba and others. But the documentation that this census is providing clearly shows a vibrant open source community for Windows exists. Also recently I have seen an interesting trend. Even on media like Forbes, GNU/Linux (and FOSS) and Apple seems to be the hottest topics and Windows is like -- who is gonna read that anyway :P -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] G.I.S.S. multimedia workshop at Sarai, Sat., 11 Oct., 11am onwards
I will be attending the workshop. Swapnil On 10/3/08, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, So, the multimedia workshop is finally confirmed. Please see the outline on the Wiki page at http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/GISSMultimediaWorkshop. Directions to Sarai, CSDS, are also available there. This will be more in the nature of an informal discussion, rather than a formal workshop, though people are invited to give presentations on any FOSS multimedia tools that they have a familiarity. If interested in doing this, please drop me a note, or edit the Wiki directly. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
dont worry Sandip, I just opted out. Enjoy. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Karan ji, You points are very very informative and I would call them quality discussion. I understand that you might be a little turned off by some of the comments, but I would very much want you to, and even personally request, to keep correcting if you feel the discussion is going in wrong direction. Hope to see more from you on this thread. Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] RMS Says Cloud Computing Is Trap
Today every company is talking about Cloud computing, but RMS has rejected as a trap and it truly is. How much sense does it make to adopt technologies pushed by some companies which could further lock us in. We are struggling to get out of non-free and jail created by MS and colonial cousins, before we could break that another jail is awaiting. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] RMS Says Cloud Computing Is Trap
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wednesday 01 October 2008 23:54:31 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Today every company is talking about Cloud computing, but RMS has rejected as a trap and it truly is. How much sense does it make to adopt technologies pushed by some companies which could further lock us in. We are struggling to get out of non-free and jail created by MS and colonial cousins, before we could break that another jail is awaiting. Well, I have been waiting to see the FOSS response to this for a while now. It is an interesting problem to solve. Of course, just calling it a trap doesn't suffice. You have to provide an alternative. It is a very interesting technology which will obviously change the way many applications can work. It challenges the whole notion of how computing is done today. The only response to it from a FOSS POV is to provide an alternate business model. Something similar to how the SETI project(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_computing), or even Tor works. - Sandip I quite agree with RMS. When we work locally at least data is with us. Cloud computing followed by SaaS is a dangerous stuff. There can be a lot of legal issues, for example, two years ago I did a story of Iran where US based companies were banned for offering any service in the nation. The entire nation came to knees as from basic emailing to ticket reservation and everything else depended on MS and other proprietary technologies. Now, where were they going to get support from? They switched to GNU/Linux and Free Software and they are building upon it. Now, since the companies operate globally how and why should the parent nation control that? What if India refused to sign Nuclear Treaty, and US puts embargo on India Google, Yahoo, and all US based companies asked to stop operations in India, everything will come to halt (Though Indian being a software power it may not happen still). You will lose all the data/application to access that residing on servers of those compnies. If you have data locally, you will still be alive and cicking. In the world of cloud computing/saas, we need more tranparancy, no vendor lock-in and neutral control of governments for companies operating globally. While intervieing most of the companies into SaaS space, including MS, when I asked the same question about control of parent country, they all refused to answer, This shows..things are fishy. Swapnil -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday-ji 01 Oct-ji 2008, Swapnil-ji Bhartiya-ji wrote: [snip] Previous mail of Raj, Manoj ji, Karan Ji, then Sandeep I find it grossly unfair that neither Sandip nor I rate a ``ji'', specially considering that I'm older that the other three (Manoj, KB and Sandip) put together. I'll even settle for ``Raj bhaiyya'' if you find the idea of calling me ``ji'' nauseating (as I do). Sandip can be ``-da''. On a more serious note, is this thread generating any fresh insights? I admit it's been fascinating reading and I've learned quite a bit from it, but it seems to be stagnating a bit now. Of course, that's just my opinion, but if everyone agrees it could be time to move on. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Bhaiyya, I quite agree with you on this one :P If others also agree we can conclude this thread. Actually I did put a Ji in front of you and Sandeep 'da' but saved as a draft and in the second drafting Ji got dropped. You know 'G' forces are always ahard to handle. and 6 G is too much :D Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Oct 01 2008, shantanu goel wrote: BTW, Canonical/Ubuntu started a new upstream report today (though I don't know how much to read into this as of now): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/UpstreamReporthttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport Yeah. I think this is a good thing. So greg's slides did have a positive effect. manoj It seems that the report has been in preparation for some time, as the last edit was 25th Sept 2008. They might be just looking for right moment -- Greg's talk may be ;-) [Oracle: Sorry, kid. You got the gift, but it looks like you're waiting for something. ] But if they do do it, I guess that would be the best thing. Swapnil PS: There was an IBM Ad: What are you doing? I am ideating. Ideating on what? That I have not ideated yet! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
I'd say that the 'Canonical' aspect of Greg's talk has over shadowed a much more pertinent take-away from it - that contributions to the upstream is a pretty good way to get things done (or, control destiny). In fact, this message could work out nicely in events where iLUG-D organizes, participates. http://www.gutenberg.net The friend who sent me the link of Greg's talk (mis)used his numbers on Canonical to paint a gray picture of the company [Canonical]. My friend's effort in sending me that info and misguiding me was just another example how people twist facts for other purposes. He used Greg's figures to show me that Ubuntu is not worth consideration, as the company behind it is doing nothing. While the discussions on the thread has made certain other things very very clear to me and I am grateful to all those who wrote and explained. As my own conclusion, after reading all those replies, I will be sticking with Ubuntu and see if I can gain expertise on distros which are not controlled by any company. (Please correct me if my interpretations are wrong :-)) I today found a blog posting of Greg where he explains things clearly, which I am sure you all have already read: *One main question that I saw a lot, and was even asked about during my talk, was what about Canonical's work on the desktop/Gnome/KDE? I really don't know if they have contributed a lot of effort back upstream on these projects, that wasn't my point here. Remember, this was given at the Linux Plumbers Conference a gathering of developers of the low-level plumbing of Linux. This wasn't a group of desktop developers, so remember the audience that this was addressed to please. If Canonical has contributed a lot to Gnome/KDE, that's great, I'm sure someone will post the numbers soon to verify this. Either way, please remember that this was not the audience that I was addressing. I sat down with Matt the day after my talk, as he described, and hopefully the Canonical kernel developers will work to become more of a valid part of the community, which is what I am sincerely hoping will happen here. Oh, and Amanda, I have given this very same kind of talk to Amazon, a number of months ago, as well as many other companies over the past 1 1/2 years, so it's not like I am ignoring them at all. And this response brings me back to my main point of my talk, which most people seem to have missed as they were upset at me pointing out Canonical's lack of upstream contributions. And that point was, and still is: Developers who are not allowed to contribute to Linux should change jobs!* http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_law_and_gospel.html Regards Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] In Debian Lenny, VLC can't play AVI
Dear friends, I recently installed Debian Lenny (network install), but I am unable to play DivX or avi files. It could play mpeg files though. Also, can someone please share his working source.list list for Lenny? Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
--- On Sun, 28/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor To: ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Date: Sunday, 28 September, 2008, 12:52 PM swapnil, sometimes a frustrated human says much without knowing a little about(right now its you). if you got time, your valuable time, please move your as* and look at launchpad. Remember , you should try to look and find light, rather than complaining the darkness. * *sorry for top, posting, its mobile client with limited feature. I moved my ass as much as possible and got it scratched. And you seemed to have not read my post completely and showed _your_ frustration here. I suggest you should have read by post and understood what I was trying to say before doing some MB here and pointing at my _complain_ (?). Note: Ra21vi:, I am a nice guy otherwise; but don't poke me in stomach especially with shitty language in lists. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
if you believe the nonsense you wrote here Swapnil, you know neither Greg nor open source software. Dear Karan ji, I don't know whether what I wrote up there was nonsense or senseless. I received an opinion mentioning Matt Zimmermanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Zimmerman_%28technologist%29, so I shared with the list as there are people here who can help make picture clear, without being _curt_. And If I knew everything, I wouldn't be on the list trying to discuss out things :-) Being a writer, I always value suggestion, but I am not used to a particular kind of language. What is also true is that most of the software and code efforts at Canonical are to build and develop close source software. -- I am so very grateful to you that you took time and explained things further :-) I have always had argument with friends on issues like this so I needed some expert opinion. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
Absolutely, and the technical community around Ubuntu is called Debian. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are allegations that Canonical is taking away a lot of Debian developers, hiring them for ubunt, which affects Debian development. Is that correct, Karan ji? Swapnil Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Bibek Paudel wrote: IMO, Ubuntu came very late in the scenario when the Linux kernel had achieved more or less a polished state. Redhat, Novell etc contributed for it. I came across this comment on Linux Magazine: *I personally think that Canonical contributed enormously by nearly doubling Linux desktop install base. And the Linux desktop install base is important bit. Anybody who had to deal with kernel development in last five years would found that contributing something to kernel what provides gains on desktop is nearly impossible: if it hurts servers (forte of RH Novell) it will be immediately blocked by their people. Just recall Kon Colivas goodbye letter. It's all there. The conflicts on LKML still happening all the time. Linux as kernel heavily server oriented - because companies who keep most developers on payroll are server companies. And they choose server market because it is possible to make a profit in server market, while in desktop market you face up hill battle against M$ and Apple. RH and Novell (SUSE) choose easy target where they can compete - Canonical choose much much harder target and yet is delivering good results. So who is coward then?? P.S. And frankly, 95% of kernel contributions of RH and Novell can be filed under category improved Oracle performance by 0.0001%. To me personally most of their contribution for past years were pretty useless. * You can check the thread here: * http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/kroah_hartman_attacks_canonical Swapnil * ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Request for Fedora 9 DVD
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Niyaz Ahmad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you friends, I have passed the info to him, he will most probably contact prof. Andrews. Thanks to you all again. Niyaz If he was there at the Unconf being organised at IIT, he could have collected it as Gora ji distributed F9 CDs and DVDs, I guess he will be there tomorrow too. So, if he happens to be at unconf tomorrow, he should be its a cool event -- very informative, he can collect the CDs or DVDs. But I am not sure if Gora ji will be there tomorrow. Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Canonical Not A Great Contributor
I just learnt from a friend of mine that I should stop using Ubuntu as Canonical is not contribiting to the developmemt of GNU/Linux systems as compared to other players. He also suggested that since most of its stuff, or nothing, is upstream so we cant trust it. Also his arguement was, being run by one man, who may tomorrow change his mind and stop support to Ubuntu, then what? So, I am bringing this issue to the lista and have people's opinion as to how much Canonical has contributed and how wise is the decision to use Ubuntu? Here is the article of Greg Kroah-Hartman, maintainer of the USB and other subsystems in the Linux kernel mentioning Canonical contribution to be 100 patches viz a viz 230 by Mandriva and only 270 by Gentoo. Remember Ubuntu is quite young compared to Mandriva, Gentoo. http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_keynote.html Please suggest. -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
