Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
rgheck wrote: This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to the theorem Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but it works. Thanks, but it works and it doesn't : The theorems are displayed in LyX with sequential numbering, but when I try to compile the file into dvi using Ctrl-D, I get the same error as before : \theoremstyle is not defined. --Philip
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
Geevarghese Philip wrote:
rgheck wrote:
...
Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but
it works.
Thanks, but it works and it doesn't snip
I made a small change to the layout file you sent, and it works
wonderfully now. Except that I somehow have a feeling that it is an ugly
hack... I have attached the layout that works -- both for the LyX
display and for the generated outputs.
Thanks for your help.
-- Philip
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[report]{amsreport}
Format 4
Input stdclass.inc
Input amsdefs.inc
Input amsmaths-seq.inc
Input numreport.inc
Style Bibliography
TopSep4
LabelString Bibliography
LabelFont
Series Bold
SizeHuge
EndFont
End
Style Standard
Preamble
\usepackage{amsthm}
\theoremstyle{plain}
\newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}
EndPreamble
End
Re: New LyX website
On Monday 31 March 2008 02:07:40 Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage I like it very much! May I suggest that you include the Recent LyX News section right before the introductory text? It's short enough that it won't bother newcomers, and it's very useful for the rest of us. Either that, or a text somewhere (on the download button?) informing of which the latest stable version is. - Urtzi - -- Urtzi Jauregi Fakulteta za Matematiko in Fiziko, Univerza v Ljubljani Jadranska 19, Si-1000 Ljubljana Slovenija Tel: ++386 01 540 13 53 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New LyX website
Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glad you like it Rich! Christian, Joost, Jean-Marc, Pavel, and others were all instrumental in putting this all together. I do not think I deserve any credit here... BTW, is it possible to hide index.php/Main from the URLs? It is pretty ugly. JMarc
LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Hi, I got LyX 1.5.3 installed today from the deb package at http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3-1_i386_etch.deb . When I start up LyX and try to open any article (even the one at Help - Latex Configuration) I get the error message The layout file requested by this document, article.layout, is not usable. ... LyX will not be able to produce output. and I am not able to get any output from LyX, as the message says. The configuration log (after I run Tools - Reconfigure) reports the report class and a lot of the other common classes as missing. The corresponding layout files are, however, present in /usr/share/lyx/layouts/ . And anyway my previous LyX installation (1.4.3) was working just fine before I to this upgrade done. Please help me get LyX back working properly. Thanks, Philip
Re: Creating a Document Programmatically
On 25.03.08, Rich Shepard wrote: Many moons ago I asked for opinions on using LaTeX as a report tool for a python application (a mathematical model, to be more precise) ... Has anyone done this? You might have a look, if pyreport is what you want: http://gael-varoquaux.info/computers/pyreport/ it lets you embed code to produce reports (or documentation) in your python scripts. Guenter
Hyphenation and page breaks
I think this may be more a latex question, but just in case ... I want to avoid hyphenation breaks at the end of pages. Is there any way to do this automatically or do I just have to go through the book fixing them manually? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles)
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:25:08PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, I got LyX 1.5.3 installed today from the deb package at http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3-1_i386_etch.deb . When I start up LyX and try to open any article (even the one at Help - Latex Configuration) I get the error message Strike. First public hit I think. and I am not able to get any output from LyX, as the message says. The configuration log (after I run Tools - Reconfigure) reports the report class and a lot of the other common classes as missing. The corresponding layout files are, however, present in /usr/share/lyx/layouts/ . And anyway my previous LyX installation (1.4.3) was working just fine before I to this upgrade done. Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. Cheers, Sven BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: New LyX website
Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Rex Hi, It looks very good. Simple and informative. Best and thanks for your effort. EJ
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. JMarc
Re: New LyX website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, ernesto wrote: Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Rex Hi, It looks very good. Simple and informative. Best and thanks for your effort. EJ I'd like to second that motion!! -KB - Konrad Blum / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Tel. +49-441-798-3212 Fax: -3990
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. Probably yes. Jürgen
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46:33AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. In my opinion it's a bad idea to distribute the package for the reasons I tried to explain in the original discussion. I don't feel that it's up to me to judge if it's still a valuable contribution that helps other people who know what they're doing. Of course one might consider the original post as a proof that the poster wasn't able to read and/or understand the implications of http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3_i386_etch.README which are of course a bit missleading because this package doesn't depend on anything. What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. To be honest even I contributed to this mess years ago with some more or less sane packages for the Connectiva distribution. So all in all I would remove all the checkinstall based packages. Cheers, Sven [1] Whatever proper means for the various system distribution. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX logo
On 25.03.08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About the logo, her reaction to the current logo were along the following lines (I have to translate): * toys, playground, childish For me, this are co-notations of * funny which in my view conveys a basic aspect of LyX + It is fun to use: LyX makes it an easy and light experience to typeset with LaTeX * unstructured * many different elements and colours = unclear This is indeed a point which might scare off first-time users (if they assess a software via its logo). * home made Well, LyX is home-made: produced by enthusiasts in their spare time with all the love and diligence of true amateurs (in the sense of crafted people working out of creative impulse without the need to do this work for earning a living). If we could convey this to the users, we might even get less of your product sucks because it does not ... postings to this list! She suggests we should think about what kind of words the logo should inspire, and also think about who the customers are. I guess this would be words and concepts such as: * WYSIWYM * Strutured/semantic document creation * (user) friendly LaTeX front-end * Academic/scientific users She also asked me about what's unique with LyX, and suggests this should be somehow represented in the logotype. LyX lovers and daily users will connect all this with the platypus, smile when they find it in their menus or taskbar and have no difficulty in making the mental connection from a bird-like mammal to a LaTeX based document processing GUI. However, a new user might gain from a more self-explanatory icon. Günter
Re: New LyX website
Achieve effortless superiority in document production! Without learning any special language or code, just type your content into a Graphic front end and the superb TeX typesetting system will give you a bit like a spam ;) pavel
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? JMarc
Re: WRB - Observations
Joost Verburg wrote: Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think so. Contrast the behavior of the Insert - Graphics dialog with the File - Open dialog. With both dialogs I get exactly the same behavior (the .lnk file is opened). File - Open hides shortcuts by default because it's looking for .lyx files while Insert - Graphics shows all files (*.*). Perhaps my PC is charmed? I just created 'Lecture Notes.lnk' on my desktop, pointing to a folder several levels deep under My Documents. This is on XP Home. In LyX 1.5.4, I click File - Open..., click the button for the Desktop, and see icons for My Documents, My Computer, My Network Places, all the folders on my desktop, the link, and all the .lyx files on the desktop. I double click the link icon, and the dialog display switches to all the .lyx files in the target folder to which the link points. I also tried this with a link pointing directly to a LyX file. Selecting that link from the desktop in the File - Open... dialog entered file_name.lyx.lnk in the file name field, but when I clicked open it did indeed open the correct LyX file. /Paul
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:31:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). It's not that easy. Unstable/testing normaly get the packages within a few weeks. ATM Per is still the only DD in our packaging team so he needs to find some time to build and upload the package. That wasn't problem since we took it over about two years ago I think. The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. http://jbot.de/bIAki According to that I guess they'll release the next long time support release called hardy with 1.5.3. Dunno why they didn't pick up 1.5.4, maybe it's been to late in the release cycle or nobody cared. Maybe they didn't pick it because we've some strange build failure[1] on arm but they don't release for arm so that shouldn't matter for them. Anyway that's just wild guessing. Maybe someone on the list feels responsible and can explain the Ubuntu stuff a little bit more. Cheers, Sven [1] Eventually a compiler problem or a problem with the buildd, we're currently waiting for a rebuild with g++ 4.3. http://jbot.de/EjjBA -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? JMarc
Re: LyX logo
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, G. Milde wrote: About the logo, her reaction to the current logo were along the following lines (I have to translate): * toys, playground, childish For me, this are co-notations of * funny snip * home made The problem I see with these associations is getting an acceptance at for work these applications. If the boss thinks it's not serious, he might object to the application being used for company documents... Maybe we need a separate logotype for bosses... :-) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: New LyX website
On Sunday 30 March 2008 20:07, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Rex Hi Rex, I really like the structure and the cleanliness. It's very usable and navigable. I'd change the home page text slightly, getting rid of the (IMHO) meaningless term WYSIWYM. For instance, I'd change the first paragraph to: === LyX is a document processor that encourages a styles-based approach to writing based on the structure of your documents. This enables the author to concentrate on content, rather than continually having to play with fonts or pagebreaks. === SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: LyX logo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I see with these associations is getting an acceptance at for work these applications. If the boss thinks it's not serious, he might object to the application being used for company documents... Maybe we need a separate logotype for bosses... :-) Here's a thought that would simultaneously emphasize that this is a word processing application, an alternative to MS Word, and developed mainly by European developers. You know the MS Word icon? How about an icon that's William Tell shooting that W off his son's head? :-) Or we could just stick with the platypus. The penguin does not seem to be hurting Linux's business adoption rate. /Paul
Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Jean-Michel Bouffard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I am currently writing my Master thesis with Lyx. I have a simple
problem with Lyx and my bibliography. I inserted a Bibtex bibliography
in my document and it automatically creates a header with the title
Bibliography. My problem is that I need to name this section
References instead of Bibliography. Is there a way to remove to
automatic header so I could use my own?
Thanks
J-M
I needed the same thing for my thesis and I used (this works for any
class; article, book, etc.):
\renewcommand\bibname{References}
Just put this in ERT somewhere before your bibliography within the document.
Cheers,
/Bob
Re: New LyX website
Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Rex Looks very nice. I have a few minor suggestions, mostly pertaining to the home page: 1. I would include the word license in the link to the license. Currently only Free Software / Open Source is highlighted, so it's slightly unclear whether this is a link to the actual license or just to a definition of FOSS. 2. I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the screenshots, in the left margin. When I'm shopping for software, that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on. 3. Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting. 4. I suggest that several languages at the bottom of the home page link to either the somewhat maligned translation page or just a list of currently supported languages. Overall, I think it's a great job. /Paul
Re: New LyX website
2. I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the screenshots, in the left margin. When I'm shopping for software, that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on. good point, i usually look for 'Screenshot' section firstly when looking for a new gui package. pavel
Templates for the new website
Thanks for the feedback on the site, everyone! Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the current one on the site)? Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021 Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106 Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864 Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828 We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people don't like about a particular design. If you see something on http://www.oswd.org/ (Open Source Web Design) that you like, feel free to suggest that one. Rex
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Jean-Michel Bouffard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am currently writing my Master thesis with Lyx. I have a simple
problem with Lyx and my bibliography. I inserted a Bibtex bibliography
in my document and it automatically creates a header with the title
Bibliography. My problem is that I need to name this section
References instead of Bibliography. Is there a way to remove to
automatic header so I could use my own?
I needed the same thing for my thesis and I used (this works for any
class; article, book, etc.):
\renewcommand\bibname{References}
No, that's not true, the article class has \refname, whereas report and
book have \bibname.
Regards,
Dominik.-
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
Paul A. Rubin wrote: Looks very nice. I have a few minor suggestions, mostly pertaining to the home page: 1. I would include the word license in the link to the license. Currently only Free Software / Open Source is highlighted, so it's slightly unclear whether this is a link to the actual license or just to a definition of FOSS. 2. I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the screenshots, in the left margin. When I'm shopping for software, that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on. 3. Should we provide output samples (DVI, PDF) somewhere (under About LyX or Visual Tour)? Non-LaTeX-users might not know what they're getting. 4. I suggest that several languages at the bottom of the home page link to either the somewhat maligned translation page or just a list of currently supported languages. Overall, I think it's a great job. /Paul Paul, I think those are great suggestions. What do you suggest for the visual tour aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar that says Visual Tour. When the user clicks there, he/she gets links to the three different Visual Tour-type things that have been created: Screencasts, Screenshots, and Walkthrough. I included one screenshot below those links for the instant gratification of visitors. I was thinking of just choosing one visual introduction (i.e. the most impressive one) to link to from the sidebar, but then people might not ever see the other stuff. What do you think? By the way, if anyone has or can make a series of screenshots using a recent version of LyX, that would be really cool. Rex
Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Dominik Waßenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Jean-Michel Bouffard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am currently writing my Master thesis with Lyx. I have a simple
problem with Lyx and my bibliography. I inserted a Bibtex bibliography
in my document and it automatically creates a header with the title
Bibliography. My problem is that I need to name this section
References instead of Bibliography. Is there a way to remove to
automatic header so I could use my own?
I needed the same thing for my thesis and I used (this works for any
class; article, book, etc.):
\renewcommand\bibname{References}
No, that's not true, the article class has \refname, whereas report and
book have \bibname.
I'm just giving Jean-Michel advise as to what worked for me and that
command works for:
article
article (AMS)
article (KOMA-Script)
article (APA)
report
report (KOMA-Script)
book
book (KOMA-Script)
book (Memoir)
So, I think it will be sufficient to accomplish the task for him.
Whether it's technically the correct way of approaching the solution
is another topic and he can choose how he would like to solve it.
Bob
Re: New LyX website
I really like the structure and the cleanliness. It's very usable and navigable. I'd change the home page text slightly, getting rid of the (IMHO) meaningless term WYSIWYM. For instance, I'd change the first paragraph to: this paragraph was changed by me, sorry Steve... i've post my reply to your WYSIWYG/WYSIWYM issue and didn't get any response except the people who agreed that WYSIWYM makes sense. pavel
Booklet headings
Hi All
I printed a little booklet of reports this year in a5 style and using the
booklet package.
I set the font at size 12 but when I printed the booklet the font size shrank
to the point where some readers would need a magnifying glass to read it.
So I put an ERT \begin{large} in at the beginning to increase the font size
and
closed with another ERT \end{large} and it worked --- at least partially.
Standard text increased in size, but section and subsection headings were not
changed.
Is there anyway to do this properly so that standard text and
section/subsections are increased in size proportionally?
Cheers
G
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:19:53 -0400 Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the current one on the site)? I like the third option - it's very clean, good contrast (though I'd like a off-white background). Now, why do web-designers insist on wanting my browser to show text smaller than the one I configured? Most, if not all of these templates find it necessary to define the body text as 65-80% of the defined font size (in the stylesheet). From http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials/css_font_size.htm I gather this is practice is very common... John
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021 Rex, Very difficult to read because there's not sufficient contrast between the background and the text. It may be OK for 20-something-year-old eyes, but not for us old curmudgeons. This applies to the bright colors on the grey header as well as the grey text on the white background. Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106 Same thing. If the text is bright white rather than grey, it would be OK. But, the header still is terrible. Actually, the black background is much easier on my eyes than are white backgrounds. Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864 Grey header band has the same contrast issue. The main portion of the page is quite readable, but ... the flower is so bright it makes me squint and is very uncomfortable to see. Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828 Again, insufficient contrast of text and background. We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people don't like about a particular design. I'm not a graphic person so I have no preference of one layout. They can all work. What I immediately notice is whether the text is easily readable. Other than the flowered design, they aren't. But, they are easily corrected. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863
Re: Booklet headings
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Grahame Blackwood wrote: Is there anyway to do this properly so that standard text and section/subsections are increased in size proportionally? Documents - Settings - Fonts Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Dominik Waßenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
I needed the same thing for my thesis and I used (this works for any
class; article, book, etc.):
\renewcommand\bibname{References}
No, that's not true, the article class has \refname, whereas report and
book have \bibname.
I'm just giving Jean-Michel advise as to what worked for me and that
command works for:
article
article (AMS)
article (KOMA-Script)
article (APA)
report
report (KOMA-Script)
book
book (KOMA-Script)
book (Memoir)
Well, that's astonishing, because it shouldn't work. And it doesn't for
me. I've attached a .lyx file with your suggestion and the report class
(KOMA-Script), and it does not work here, i.e. the bibliography still is
named 'Bibliography'.
So, I think it will be sufficient to accomplish the task for him.
Whether it's technically the correct way of approaching the solution
is another topic and he can choose how he would like to solve it.
Well, it's no technical issue. It just doesn't work the way you
described it, and I don't know how you made it work, but surely not that
way.
Regards,
Dominik.-
refname-test.lyx
Description: Attached file: refname-test.lyx
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: 2. I suggest a direct link to the visual tour, or at least the screenshots, in the left margin. When I'm shopping for software, that's usually one of the first things I seek out, and I'll sometimes not bother poking around a site if I can't see screenshots early on. I think those are great suggestions. What do you suggest for the visual tour aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar that says Visual Tour. Was that there before? Can't believe I missed it. When the user clicks there, he/she gets links to the three different Visual Tour-type things that have been created: Screencasts, Screenshots, and Walkthrough. I included one screenshot below those links for the instant gratification of visitors. I was thinking of just choosing one visual introduction (i.e. the most impressive one) to link to from the sidebar, but then people might not ever see the other stuff. What do you think? I think the current setup is fine. At the risk of redundancy, it might be worth including a direct link to the screenshots on the left of the main page, under the visual tour link. Arriving at the home page, I might interpret visual tour as lengthy Flash demo, and I'm reluctant to spend time watching a video unless I'm pretty sure I'm interested in the program -- which I confirm partly by looking at screenshots. But I may be atypical in that regard. /Paul
Re: Templates for the new website
I like all of the page templates. My *least* favorite is Black Box, because the text seems hard to read (gray on a black background?) and I keep peering at the page to see if there are images hidden in the background. http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage is really quite attractive (perhaps the other templates would be equally or moreso, once LyX-specific content is put on). / Down with categorical imperative! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / - Original Message From: Rex C. Eastbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:19:53 AM Subject: Templates for the new website Thanks for the feedback on the site, everyone! Here are some templates our designer Andrei picked out as possibilities for the new website. What do you guys like most out of these (and the current one on the site)? Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021 Black Box: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3106 Flowered: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2864 Nautica: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/2828 We can probably make some modifications if there's a small thing people don't like about a particular design. If you see something on http://www.oswd.org/ (Open Source Web Design) that you like, feel free to suggest that one. Rex Like movies? Here's a limited-time offer: Blockbuster Total Access for one month at no cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text4.com
Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Dominik Waßenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's no technical issue. It just doesn't work the way you described it, and I don't know how you made it work, but surely not that way. As stated in my first post, Just put this in ERT somewhere before your bibliography within the document. Highlighting within the document not the Preamble. Bob
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
Paul A. Rubin schrieb: Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: [...] What do you suggest for the visual tour aspect? Just to sum up, currently there is a link on the sidebar that says Visual Tour. [...] I think the current setup is fine. At the risk of redundancy, it might be worth including a direct link to the screenshots on the left of the main page, under the visual tour link. Arriving at the home page, I might interpret visual tour as lengthy Flash demo, and I'm reluctant to spend time watching a video unless I'm pretty sure I'm interested in the program -- which I confirm partly by looking at screenshots. But I may be atypical in that regard. I think most users look for screenshot or screenshots, so I would agree with you, Paul. Regards, Dominik.-
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Dominik Waßenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, it's no technical issue. It just doesn't work the way you
described it, and I don't know how you made it work, but surely not that
way.
As stated in my first post, Just put this in ERT somewhere before
your bibliography within the document. Highlighting within the
document not the Preamble.
Sorry, I didn't read thoroughly enough. But still, your suggested
'\renewcommand\bibname{References}' will not work with an article
class.[1] See the new example I attached.
Regards,
Dominik.-
refname-test.lyx
Description: Attached file: refname-test.lyx
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:00:15 -0300 John Coppens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, why do web-designers insist on wanting my browser to show text smaller than the one I configured? Most, if not all of these templates find it necessary to define the body text as 65-80% of the defined font size (in the stylesheet). Note this recommendation from the W3C consortium: http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/font-size quote: Size: respect the users' preferences, avoid small size for content * As a base font size for a document, 1em (or 100%) is equivalent to setting the font size to the user's preference. Use this as a basis for your font sizes, and avoid setting a smaller base font size * Avoid sizes in em smaller than 1em for text body, except maybe for copyright statements or other kinds of fine print. end quote... John
Re: question about lyx
Scott White wrote:
2) the first line after a section, subsection, subsubsection begins at the left
margin, but the other paragraphs under it are indented ie
Section Name
first paragraph
second paragraph
third paragraph
This is normal English typesetting style. If you want no indentation,
see DocumentSettingsText Layout. If , contrary to everything any
typesetter will tell you, you nonetheless want the first paragraph
indented, get the indentfirst package and \usepackage{indentfirst} in
your DocumentSettingsPreamble.
For what it's worth, I prefer no indentation. But that's just me.
I personally prefer no indentation what so ever. I like blocks of text with a
newline between paragraphs, but again that is just me. This typesetting style
is taking some getting used to.
You can have the no indentation style very easily. See
DocumentSettingsText Layout.
4) when I test the resulting file for w3 validation it tests as valid, but I
get warnings about NET-enabling start-tag requires SHORTTAG YES on As I
understand this the is for XHTML and not HTML so why is this here?
This has nothing to do with LyX and everything to do with whatever HTML
converter you are using. See ToolsPreferencesConverters, and look for
HTML to see what you're using.
htlatex $$i is the converter listed, but looking at my directory structure I think it is MiKTeX 2.7.
Then htlatex is the one being used. It probably got installed by MikTeX.
This package has known problems on Windows, or at least did until
recently. You might well try a different one.
rh
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
Geevarghese Philip wrote: rgheck wrote: This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to the theorem Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but it works. Thanks, but it works and it doesn't : The theorems are displayed in LyX with sequential numbering, but when I try to compile the file into dvi using Ctrl-D, I get the same error as before : \theoremstyle is not defined. That's very odd. I compiled it and it worked fine for me. Are you using at least one theorem? Or are you only using other things, like corollaries? rh
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
Geevarghese Philip wrote: Geevarghese Philip wrote: rgheck wrote: ... Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but it works. Thanks, but it works and it doesn't snip I made a small change to the layout file you sent, and it works wonderfully now. Except that I somehow have a feeling that it is an ugly hack... I have attached the layout that works -- both for the LyX display and for the generated outputs. It's a hack, but if it works, it works. Layout editing is a major hackfast anyway. rh
Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Dominik Waßenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I didn't read thoroughly enough. But still, your suggested
'\renewcommand\bibname{References}' will not work with an article
class.[1] See the new example I attached.
You're right. This must have been left over code from when I was
trying to format my thesis using different classes.
However, changing it to:
\renewcommand\refname{Test}
works for article classes. And
\renewcommand\bibname{Test}
works for report and book classes. Which is what I think you were
trying to point out in the first place :-}.
Thanks for the correction.
Cheers,
/Bob
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Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob Lounsbury schrieb:
However, changing it to:
\renewcommand\refname{Test}
works for article classes. And
\renewcommand\bibname{Test}
works for report and book classes. Which is what I think you were
trying to point out in the first place :-}.
Exactly.
Thanks for the correction.
Thanks for your patience (c;
Regards,
Dominik.-
Re: custom document language
Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Luis Rivera schrieb:
Hñat-ho.
I might need some other native languages from Mexico (Nahuatl, Cora,
Huichol,
Purepecha and Tarahumara are up in my to-do list as well).
LaTeX doesn't have a package that supports these languages. What you need is
a package that provides
translations of words like Part, a package that provides correct
hyphenation, and perhaps also a
spellchecker.
Indeed, Babel provides support for them; all you need to do is to write an
appropriate language.ldf file, put it somewhere in your texmf path, and add
it to the argument in the \usepackage[languages]{babel} command. It's not
hard once you know how to do it. Redneck is only an example :)
I may attack the hyphenation problem with mkpattern, from CTAN, and build some
word and affix lists for hunspell for the text editor.
One thing at a time, however...
Even OpenOffice don't offer this and this the program with the best language
support I know.
I don't know. Perhaps it can: it may not provide an interface to the program,
but I'm positive you may add more locales to the dictionary.lst
in /share/dict/ooo. All you need to do is to have the appropriate hunspell
files.
Cheers,
Luis.
Re: WRB - Observations
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:57:47PM +0200, Joost Verburg wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a courtesy, not a requirement. LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these platform should get more support than others. There surely is. There is no particular reason why an Open Source project has to encourage the use of a proprietary operating system and spend resources on fixing funny behaviour on such platforms. If it happens to work and/or there is enough interest of _developers_ on that platform, such development will eventually happen. Andre'
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Hi, Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... The packages are here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/ On http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian you'll find a link to http://emiscabpo.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/lyx-15x-and-145-backports/ telling you what to put in your souces.list so that you can apt-get install them. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. In this case the information about what to add to your sources.list is enough. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? I don't think so. People who know what they're doing will simply download the Debian source package and make the changes needed to build it on stable or one of the Debian derived distritbutions. It's mostly about reading how dpkg-buildpackage or debuild works if you're just building packages for your own. pbuilder is a bonus and makes it saver to not miss a build-dependency and is mandatory if you want to give the packages to other people. Beside that it's all in a public svn repo so that you can check it out aswell. Nearly every piece of information about the package can be reached from the PTS http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html As long as we keep up with the packaging for Debian I'd prefer that the pkg-lyx-devel group on http://alioth.debian.org is the central place for LyX packaging for Debian. We're always open for new contributers and new input so if someone would like to get something changed he can always submit bugreports or mail to the mailinglist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: Bibtex bibliography
In a Koma-Script report, adding these two lines in ERT just before the
Bibliography widget works for me. It also adds the References page number to
the Table of Contents at the Section size and indentation level. The first
line is slightly different from what Rich suggested, and I did not test his
suggestion.
\renewcommand\bibname{References}
\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{References}
As Uwe noted, whether this works may vary depending on what document class
you are using.
My problem is that I need to name this section
References instead of Bibliography. Is there a way to remove to
automatic header so I could use my own?
When you are using a book or report class, add this to your document
preamble:
\usepackage[english]{babel}
\addto\captionsenglish {\renewcommand{\bibname}{References}}
When you are using an article clas, use
\usepackage[english]{babel}
\addto\captionsenglish {\renewcommand{\refname}{References}}
When your document language is e.g. Frech, replace english by french
in the above commands.
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Re: New LyX website
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:07:40PM -0400, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Looks good. Even readable in lynx ;-) I wouldn't mind if the 'title bar' would be a bit smaller, leaving more room for actual contents, and having the mascot show up also on a few more pages (not necessarily all), too. That's not important, though. Andre'
Re: New LyX website
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:33:01AM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote: I like it much more than our current webpage. But there are some bugs: This page http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/Translation btw i think the listing of translated things is very outdated. either update or delete it? http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/Tasks sounds like 'last updated in 1997', too ;-) Andre'
Re: Templates for the new website
Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current template looks really good. Rex
Re: New LyX website
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:45:45AM +0200, Rudi van der Linde wrote: John wrote: snip For the TeX (or LaTeX) expert you can still indulge your love of (or need for) the arcana of the TeX language and LaTeX macros for special effects and tinkering via LyX's Evil Red TeX (ERT) dialogue box. IMHO I don't think its such a good idea to tell new people about the Evil ERT box at such an early stage. The Evil in ERT is quite cute but may be off-putting to potential users of the product if a feature thereof is evil, i.e. difficult to use. One can possibly only mention that LyX has a mechanism that allows one to use TeX directly if one would like to. Good point.
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Dominik Waßenhoven schrieb:
Sorry, I didn't read thoroughly enough. But still, your suggested
'\renewcommand\bibname{References}' will not work with an article
class.[1] See the new example I attached.
I don't understand this discussion. My post explains how this can be done. You solution doesn't work
because you don't take care of babel.
regards Uwe
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
Man, the website is amazing! I just wish the cool playground block letters of the old website could replace this incoherent three lets-have-fun-colors + Times Roman silliness. On the question of screenshots, a) it bugs me that the illustrations are all in a serif font, which should never be used on a screen, unless it's maybe old courier. I have found that WYSIWYG cretinism is at once so powerful and so superficial, that it is exploded as soon this simple distinction is made. This is the point of entry for getting regular people to grasp the difference between an editor and a typesetter. Even when I can't convince people to take up LyX or LaTeX, I at least convince them to use font substitution in Word ... with months of expressions of gratitude following. b) Also the text is justified in the screenshots, which is conceptually regressive and medically dangerous, and violates every principle LyX stands for. The LyX UI is not a typesetter; Word is 1000x better at screen-typesetting than LyX; it is pure Word wannabe-ism) c)It is obvious that the fancy mathematical illustrations come too soon, unless y'all are thinking of the TeX-using public as the principal market. One ought to have a few screens of simple documents that fit on the screen - AND the typeset version alongside them, no? Here's a couple of examples I sent to a friend. Actually the LyX screen doesn't show the whole document, but one gets the idea. ((Pay no attention to the content of the would-have-been class handout!)) http://www.pitt.edu/~mthompso/lyx.ui.example.png http://www.pitt.edu/~mthompso/lyx.typeset.example.png best, Michael T ((Maybe what I am really thinking of is a second link to screenshots in which the WYSIWYG v. WYSIWYM contrast is developed. By the way, I think that WYSIWYM is doubtful English. One should just say WYSIWYT(think). WYSIWYT is what I experienced in wordperfect 5.1 which I continued to use til two years ago, not capable of writing a damn thing in Word, though I couldnt understand why til I hit the Wikipedia page on LyX... Incredibly, I used Word, not Latex, as my typesetting engine.))
Re: LyX logo
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:42:18PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, G. Milde wrote: About the logo, her reaction to the current logo were along the following lines (I have to translate): * toys, playground, childish For me, this are co-notations of * funny snip * home made The problem I see with these associations is getting an acceptance at for work these applications. If the boss thinks it's not serious, he might object to the application being used for company documents... You mean there are bosses out there that might consider using LyX? Interesting line of thought ... Andre' PS: Strictly no comments from oldtimers, please ;-)
Re: New LyX website
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:07:40PM -0400, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Konni likes it much better the 'green one'. Andre'
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current template looks really good. Rex, Me, too. And it's readable. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863
Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dominik Waßenhoven schrieb:
Sorry, I didn't read thoroughly enough. But still, your suggested
'\renewcommand\bibname{References}' will not work with an article
class.[1] See the new example I attached.
I don't understand this discussion. My post explains how this can be done.
You solution doesn't work
because you don't take care of babel.
regards Uwe
I was just offering another way to 'skin a cat'. But, yes the solution
I offered *DOES* work.
Aren't the babel steps only necessary if you need to directly specify
a language other than English? As the babel package is loaded by
default in LyX and I don't need to specify language options for
English documents.
Cheers,
/Bob
Re: LyX logo
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:02:41AM -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I see with these associations is getting an acceptance at for work these applications. If the boss thinks it's not serious, he might object to the application being used for company documents... Maybe we need a separate logotype for bosses... :-) Here's a thought that would simultaneously emphasize that this is a word processing application, an alternative to MS Word, Well, honestly, it isn't. It's pretty hard to make a fancy one-side-letter invitation for granma's wedding in LyX. MS Word probably would fit _that_ bill. OTOH, for writing scientific papers or the random thesis LyX is probably better suited. and developed mainly by European developers. As in 'less likely to grill you once you appear to do something wrong'? Interesting line of argument ;-) Andre'
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob, Babel matters because the person asking the question seems to be
french. Or at least he speaks french. You cannot hope everybody writes in
english. Dominik solution is for a general case, while yours only work for
the specific case the document is in english.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dominik Waßenhoven schrieb:
Sorry, I didn't read thoroughly enough. But still, your suggested
'\renewcommand\bibname{References}' will not work with an article
class.[1] See the new example I attached.
I don't understand this discussion. My post explains how this can be
done. You solution doesn't work
because you don't take care of babel.
regards Uwe
I was just offering another way to 'skin a cat'. But, yes the solution
I offered *DOES* work.
Aren't the babel steps only necessary if you need to directly specify
a language other than English? As the babel package is loaded by
default in LyX and I don't need to specify language options for
English documents.
Cheers,
/Bob
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Re: LyX logo
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: Here's a thought that would simultaneously emphasize that this is a word processing application, an alternative to MS Word, Well, honestly, it isn't. I'm sorry, but I feel compelled to offer Andre' et al. an unsolicited supporting opinion on this subject. Word processor has the definite connotation of WYSIWYG. No one confuses a text editor with a word processor, nor do they confuse a page layout editor with a word processor. LyX is a front end to a document preparation system. It's not necessarily a replacement for processed words such as those in inter-office memos, fax cover sheets (does anyone fax anymore, other than the spammers?), and similar documents. I suspect that it would take a lot of work to prepare a LyX style/LaTeX class for legal documents, government agency regulations, and the like. It is a replacement for M$ Word, OO.o's Writer, AbiWord, etc. for the preparation of certain documents, but not all. I don't think we want to give potential users an incorrect impression that one size fits all when it comes to text-oriented documents. And remember: power corrupts, PowerPoint corrupts absolutely. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863
Re: Removal from mailing list
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Re: Bibtex bibliography
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Babel matters because the person asking the question seems to be french. Or at least he speaks french. -- - Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good to know. Thanks. Would be nice if the people posting would clarify their needs. Also, if they would contribute once they post a question to let us know if a solution worked or if they are having further trouble. Since the poster hasn't responded to anything in this thread. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Booklet headings
On Monday 31 March 2008 17:05:21 Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Grahame Blackwood wrote: Is there anyway to do this properly so that standard text and section/subsections are increased in size proportionally? Documents - Settings - Fonts Hi Rich Thanks very much for the suggestion. I tried that but even when I have set the font to the maximum size i.e. 12 point, the print is quite small after the booklet package has reduced an a4 sheet of text down to a5 size. What I would like to achieve is a result that looks like 12 point on an a4 sheet, but after it has been reduced by the booklet package to fit on a5 paper. The ERT method I used worked, but was a compromise since I didn't want the standard text to be bigger than the section headings. Cheers G
Re: Hyphenation and page breaks
Filippo Zangheri ha scritto: Anthony Campbell ha scritto: I think this may be more a latex question, but just in case ... I want to avoid hyphenation breaks at the end of pages. Is there any way to do this automatically or do I just have to go through the book fixing them manually? Anthony Hi Anthony, you can put this command in the LaTeX Preamble of your LyX document: \hyphenpenalty=1 Maybe 1 is not enough, I don't know. Anyway putting 10 or 100 times more doesn't cost anything! ;) Sorry. This has nothing to do with your request! Apoligize. -- Filippo Zangheri GPG key ID: 0xE1D879FA Key fingerprint: 816B CE57 D43C 0A47 EF35 3378 EA5F A72A E1D8 79FA Key server: pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GE d- s+:- a-- C++ UL+++ P+ L+++ E-- W+ N* o-- K- w--- O-- M-- V- PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP++ t 5-- X++ R* tv b+ DI-- D G-- e++ h-- r++ z* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: Templates for the new website
Rich Shepard wrote: Bright Pixel: http://www.oswd.org/design/preview/id/3021 Very difficult to read because there's not sufficient contrast between the background and the text. It may be OK for 20-something-year-old eyes, but not for us old curmudgeons. It's also hard for us old non-curmudgeons; and that applies to three of the four designs. (Was the Blackbox page designed by a Goth?) The flowered one has adequate contrast, albeit with an unnecessarily tiny font (noted elsewhere). I like the current format of the revised site better than any of these. /Paul
Problems with list digest mode missing whole threads?
Hello all, I seem to be receiving the digest version of the list with messages missing. I sent a message on (dates according to the archive) Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:13:17 -0700. I got Ryan's reply (cc'ed to the list) on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:48:58 -0700. That is the only reply I received, I've checked my junk boxes and such. Strange thing is that I have no mention of the thread in my digests, I've checked them all from (dates based on the header in the digests) 27/03/08 10:15 AM to 10:08 AM (today March 31st PST). None of the 4 messages in the thread are in my digests. Is anyone else also seeing this behaviour? Did something happen (server update?) between Ryan's message at Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:48:58 -0700 and Bob's at Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:27:12 -0700? I'd like to respond to Bob's message, but I don't have an email to reply to, and the archive hides email addresses. It's better that the reply go into the archive in the proper thread anyhow. I'll check the archives to see if anyone responds to this. Here is the archive address of my thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg63436.html Is that number supposed to match the digest numbers?? its a good 2000 messages early than the latest in my digests (65785). Could that be the problem? Thanks, B. Bogart
RE: WRB - Observations
Rich Shepard wrote: However, if you want to use open source applications built to open standards, then understand that almost all of these were originally build for linux or one of the *BSDs, those are the platforms the developers use, and making them available to the Windows world is a courtesy, not a requirement. LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these platform should get more support than others. There surely is. There is no particular reason why an Open Source project has to encourage the use of a proprietary operating system and spend resources on fixing funny behaviour on such platforms. If it happens to work and/or there is enough interest of _developers_ on that platform, such development will eventually happen. Andre' On this point, I quite agree: if there if enough interest, a developer will attend the issue, and the open source tool will improve. I would not expect anything more. Indeed, that is the whole point of open source, that anyone with sufficient interest can improve the tool. By extension, it should therefore not bring indigestion for one to note behavior in said tool. All this information constitutes knowledge of the tool, and provides suggestions to developers who care about that knowledge. I don't see any reason for negative reaction to acquisition of knowledge, and since I did not present the observation in negative words (like those of a university professor a few weeks back), some reaction obtained is unexpected. wrb
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Thanks for your input, everyone. On second thought, it might be best to just stick with the template we have now, since Joost and Christian have put a lot of work into getting it to work right. I think the current template looks really good. Speaking for myself, I'll certainly be happy to install Andrei's suggestions as 'skins' on the site! About skins, I'd love a new skin for wiki.lyx.org (hint, hint), but please note that it should _not_ be the same as for www.lyx.org. (See discussion on the devel list). Best regards, /Christian PS. Seriously, I would like to try and install Andrei's work. Andrei, you can contact me off-list so we can work out details. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Hyphenation and page breaks
Anthony Campbell ha scritto: I think this may be more a latex question, but just in case ... I want to avoid hyphenation breaks at the end of pages. Is there any way to do this automatically or do I just have to go through the book fixing them manually? Anthony Hi Anthony, you can put this command in the LaTeX Preamble of your LyX document: \hyphenpenalty=1 Maybe 1 is not enough, I don't know. Anyway putting 10 or 100 times more doesn't cost anything! ;) -- Filippo Zangheri GPG key ID: 0xE1D879FA Key fingerprint: 816B CE57 D43C 0A47 EF35 3378 EA5F A72A E1D8 79FA Key server: pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GE d- s+:- a-- C++ UL+++ P+ L+++ E-- W+ N* o-- K- w--- O-- M-- V- PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP++ t 5-- X++ R* tv b+ DI-- D G-- e++ h-- r++ z* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: WRB - Observations
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 01:18:00PM -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: LyX supports Windows, Linux/Unix and Mac OS X and it should work fine on all these platforms. There is no reason why one of these platform should get more support than others. There surely is. There is no particular reason why an Open Source project has to encourage the use of a proprietary operating system and spend resources on fixing funny behaviour on such platforms. If it happens to work and/or there is enough interest of _developers_ on that platform, such development will eventually happen. Andre' On this point, I quite agree: if there if enough interest, a developer will attend the issue, and the open source tool will improve. I would not expect anything more. Indeed, that is the whole point of open source, that anyone with sufficient interest can improve the tool. By extension, it should therefore not bring indigestion for one to note behavior in said tool. All this information constitutes knowledge of the tool, and provides suggestions to developers who care about that knowledge. I don't see any reason for negative reaction to acquisition of knowledge, and since I did not present the observation in negative words (like those of a university professor a few weeks back), some reaction obtained is unexpected. Well, for one, OS developers traditionally get touchy when the 'M' or 'W' words are mentioned... Apart from that: I personally have no problems to acknowledge the existence of software outside the OS world. I've actually used (and coded myself for a living...) software in this 'M' and 'W' world for a few years, so even if I consider it an extremely hostile environment (mostly technically, and only partially for political reasons) I believe I can handle it comparatively well. At least I can compare it to other environments I used. I also think that I am generally open for knowledge. I have managed to survive in academia for a dozen years or so. However, especially in this 'M' and 'W' world you get swamped with a kind of knowledge that is completely useless outside. Have you ever wondered why Custom Action Type 39 for MSI Installers was declared deprecated by Redmond after it has been out in the wild for a few years? No? Well, I had to... And I think even typing this into a google search would be a waste of _your_ lifetime, too. So, no, knowledge does not imply good by itself. And, no, in my spare time I am in no way obliged to gather more knowledge in an area in which I feel I spent far too much time already. [Well, this, of course, depends on whether you consider job time as my time or not ;-)]. Maybe that explains the possibility of negative reactions here... Andre'
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
On the question of screenshots, a) it bugs me that the illustrations are all in a serif font, which should never be used on a screen, unless it's maybe old courier. Michael, feel free to re-create pictures in screenshot section and/or graphical tour. the screenshots you sent are fine, just use standard colors and composition of toolbars. pavel
Re: Removal from mailing list
@kellyservices.co.uk from this mailing list. Your email exchanges about Lyx, while informative, are clogging up our inboxes. Greetings Nicholas, CONFIDENTIAL The information contained in this email and any attachment is confidential. It is intended only for the named addressee(s). If you are not the named addressee(s) please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose, copy or distribute the contents to any other person other than the intended addressee(s) As noted by Andre', I assume I must also notify you that I'm not a named addressee! (It was fun spelling addressee... I don't I've done that before). However, as I see no legal restriction in answering your question, oh... wait... if I answer I would be disclosing contents.. However, you can easily find the solution by googling... my first hits were relevant. In addition, I believe the answer you seek is available with each e-mail you recieve... oops, that mean _this_ email contains the answer. My apologies for not abiding your notice of confidentiality! regards, Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Templates for the new website
About skins, I'd love a new skin for wiki.lyx.org (hint, hint), but please note that it should _not_ be the same as for www.lyx.org. (See discussion on the devel list). please at least for the wiki part use template which use full screen width. pavel
Re: Templates for the new website
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. Seriously, I would like to try and install Andrei's work. Andrei, you can contact me off-list so we can work out details. These are just a few example of open-source templates, it's not new work. For the new official website it's we'll continue improving the current skin/design. For the wiki I think it's the best option to either improve the standard Pmwiki skin or to use another Pmwiki skin and customize it. It should be a simple and flexible design because of the various types of content in the wiki. However, it is probably easier to finish the official site first and then start working on the wiki. Then the wiki design can be adjusted to the final design of the official site. Joost
Re: Templates for the new website
Pavel Sanda wrote: About skins, I'd love a new skin for wiki.lyx.org (hint, hint), but please note that it should _not_ be the same as for www.lyx.org. (See discussion on the devel list). please at least for the wiki part use template which use full screen width. I agree. Because of the type of content on the wiki a full width screen is a good idea. Joost
Re: question about lyx
Scott White wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:38:22 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott White wrote: 1) everything is justified. How can I change it to left alignment? Note that LaTeX microspaces, etc, so this looks proper. If you're going to convert to HTML, it probably doesn't matter, since HTML doesn't do justification, does it? Actually I am fairly sure it does. align=justify is valid html tag. It's an attribute, not a tag. And it's deprecated in HTML 4.0, and omitted entirely in XHTML 1.0. The correct way to specify justification in contemporary HTML is with a style. The current LyX functionality does not use this tag. I just don't want to be surprised in the future if LyX started to use it. LyX has nothing to do with HTML output. That's produced by a LaTeX renderer that creates HTML (such as htlatex), which is NOT part of LyX. It's crucial to understand what LyX is and is not. LyX does not produce formatted output, except for its own display on the screen. It's an application for producing LaTeX documents and processing them with LaTeX processors - but those processors are part of a LaTeX implementation (or are separate utilities). They aren't part of LyX. This has nothing to do with LyX and everything to do with whatever HTML converter you are using. See ToolsPreferencesConverters, and look for HTML to see what you're using. htlatex $$i is the converter listed, but looking at my directory structure I think it is MiKTeX 2.7. MiKTeX is a LaTeX implementation. It includes htlatex, which is a LaTeX renderer that produces HTML. So what happens here is: 1. You create your document in LyX. 2. You ask LyX to export to HTML. 3. LyX creates a LaTeX document from your document. That will include LaTeX commands for the various options you've set, packages you've included, etc. 4. LyX looks at your converter preferences to find the command line it should use to create HTML. 5. LyX invokes the specified converter (htlatex, for example). 6. The htlatex it finds on your system is (probably) the one supplied with MiKTeX. htlatex will create HTML (and CSS) from the LaTeX document LyX created in step 3. As you can see, what you do in LyX defines the LaTeX document, and that's the input to htlatex. But LyX can only control the final HTML output to the extent that htlatex can be controlled by what's in the LaTeX source (and options on the htlatex command line, if you edit the converter in your LyX preferences). Ultimately, what goes into your HTML output is up to htlatex. LaTeX isn't designed to let you specify exactly how you want your document to look. (It's possible to get very fine-grained control with LaTeX, but it requires a sophisticated understanding of the language.) It's designed to let you worry about content and structure, and let *it* worry about layout. So if you want to specify exactly how your HTML is going to look, I'd suggest one of two things: don't use LaTeX (and LyX), or edit the style sheet (the CSS file) after generating the content. (You can also create a style sheet ahead of time and just substitute it for the one generated by htlatex.) HTML layout is properly done through a stylesheet (using floats, positioning, widths and heights, etc) anyway. -- Michael Wojcik
Re: WRB - Observations
rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if this doesn't work correctly, it's got to do with Qt, bugs or otherwise. Agreed, though it would be good to know why people report different behavior in different dialogs, and different behavior on different systems. It's conceivable that something LyX is doing is either triggering a Qt bug in some circumstances (which might be avoidable), or at least causing differing behavior where we could be consistent. If I weren't in the middle of about a zillion other things I'd grab the current sources and take a look. (Maybe over the summer I'll finally get a chance to dig into the LyX source.) Though, pace William, the *real* problem, as I wrote above, is that shortcuts are not part of the Windows OS. They're purely an application-layer artifact. Certainly not all Windows programs handle them the way William would like. (Windows users can try cd'ing across a shortcut in a shell window - no go. cd'ing across junctions works just fine, however, because they *are* first-class filesystem objects.) -- Michael Wojcik
Re: Templates for the new website
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Joost Verburg wrote: PS. Seriously, I would like to try and install Andrei's work. Andrei, you can contact me off-list so we can work out details. These are just a few example of open-source templates, it's not new work. I know. I mean that if Andrei wants to create a template, I'll install it for testing on either the web site or the wiki site. I believe that if he invests time in creating a design, I think we owe him to give it a proper test, i.e. in context. Then people can give their opinion, and ideally we'll merge the best features of the designs. (In a theoretical world with the needed resources etc etc). For the new official website it's we'll continue improving the current skin/design. Please note that users can choose their own skin by simply appending ?skin=... to the URI. We do not need to restrict ourselve to one skin only. However, in practie we'll probably only fully support one skin. As for what design to use for the official web site, I can't say I've seen a consensus (yet) of what design to use. I'm a design illiterate, so I'm just waiting for consensus to arrive, and saying that what we have is good enough. Naturally I think the current design is _much_ better than before! However, if Andrei wants to make a design I'll install it so that we can compare them. For the wiki I think it's the best option to either improve the standard Pmwiki skin or to use another Pmwiki skin and customize it. It should be a simple and flexible design because of the various types of content in the wiki. I liked the nautica thing as a candidate for the wiki, the standard pmwiki skin is _ugly_ (and what we have today). I think simulating 'tabs' might be a good metaphor for the aspects with which a page can appear, e.g. 'view', 'edit', 'history'. However, it is probably easier to finish the official site first and then start working on the wiki. Then the wiki design can be adjusted to the final design of the official site. Perhaps... I think they are _very_ different beasts, and that they therefore will benefit from designs/layouts that are different. Just as a simple example, a search field is very important for a wiki, but less so for the official web site. The wiki needs much for methods or functions compared to a regular web site. As with the web site, we can of course install different skins. Having a 'standard' skin and an 'advanced' skin could be a good idea. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: question about lyx
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Michael Wojcik wrote: It's an attribute, not a tag. And it's deprecated in HTML 4.0, and omitted entirely in XHTML 1.0. The correct way to specify justification in contemporary HTML is with a style. That's because xhtml has moved toward separation of content and formatting, just as LaTeX/LyX does. The xhtml has the content and the css has the formatting. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | IntegrityCredibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863
Re: New LyX website
On Monday 31 March 2008 14:03, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 08:07:40PM -0400, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage We're still doing some design work, but the basics are in place. What do you all think? Konni likes it much better the 'green one'. I think it's 1*10**6 times better than the green one. SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: Templates for the new website
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please note that users can choose their own skin by simply appending ?skin=... to the URI. We do not need to restrict ourselve to one skin only. We really should not have multiple designs for our web site. One official skin is enough. However, in practie we'll probably only fully support one skin. As for what design to use for the official web site, I can't say I've seen a consensus (yet) of what design to use. I'm a design illiterate, so I'm just waiting for consensus to arrive, and saying that what we have is good enough. As I understand it, the consensus is that the current design is much better than before and that we will continue to improve it if we receive more feedback / suggestions. Is that right Rex / Andrei? I liked the nautica thing as a candidate for the wiki, the standard pmwiki skin is _ugly_ (and what we have today). I think simulating 'tabs' might be a good metaphor for the aspects with which a page can appear, e.g. 'view', 'edit', 'history'. I think with some nice graphics this skin can look much better. It's easier to start with a Pmwiki skin than to write a new skin from scratch. Perhaps... I think they are _very_ different beasts, and that they therefore will benefit from designs/layouts that are different. Just as a simple example, a search field is very important for a wiki, but less so for the official web site. The wiki needs much for methods or functions compared to a regular web site. Yes, they are different. But I think the design should still be somewhat consistent. Joost
Output track changes in pdf with latex error
I get error message when I try to get output in pdf with show changes in output is on. Output to dvi and ps works well. Is it way to make it work with pdf? Thanks. Peter
Re: custom document language
Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does LaTeX support such rarely encountered languages? Liviu It does: provided you supply an appropriately formatted language.ldf file somewhere in your TEXPATH. Luis.
Re: WRB - Observations
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 05:45:30PM -0400, Michael Wojcik wrote: rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if this doesn't work correctly, it's got to do with Qt, bugs or otherwise. Agreed, though it would be good to know why people report different behavior in different dialogs, and different behavior on different systems. It's conceivable that something LyX is doing is either triggering a Qt bug in some circumstances (which might be avoidable), or at least causing differing behavior where we could be consistent. There have been bugs in Qt's file dialogs around 4.1.1 (+/- 2 subminor versions perhaps). So if you want to dig deeper make sure you have the same version as the reporter... Andre'
Re: Templates for the new website
Joost Verburg wrote: As I understand it, the consensus is that the current design is much better than before and that we will continue to improve it if we receive more feedback / suggestions. Is that right Rex / Andrei? That would be fine with me! Rex
Re: Output track changes in pdf with latex error
Peter Sutovsky wrote: I get error message when I try to get output in pdf with show changes in output is on. Output to dvi and ps works well. Is it way to make it work with pdf? Thanks. Do you have the xcolor package installed? Joost
RE: WRB - Observations
-Original Message- From: Michael Wojcik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:46 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations rgheck wrote: Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't think this is a bug in Qt, though arguably it's a missing feature. Shortcuts are not first-class filesystem objects in Windows. They're files that are treated in a special manner by Windows Explorer. LyX uses Qt for its file dialogs, etc, so if this doesn't work correctly, it's got to do with Qt, bugs or otherwise. Agreed, though it would be good to know why people report different behavior in different dialogs, and different behavior on different systems. It's conceivable that something LyX is doing is either triggering a Qt bug in some circumstances (which might be avoidable), or at least causing differing behavior where we could be consistent. If I weren't in the middle of about a zillion other things I'd grab the current sources and take a look. (Maybe over the summer I'll finally get a chance to dig into the LyX source.) Though, pace William, the *real* problem, as I wrote above, is that shortcuts are not part of the Windows OS. They're purely an application-layer artifact. Certainly not all Windows programs handle them the way William would like. (Windows users can try cd'ing across a shortcut in a shell window - no go. cd'ing across junctions works just fine, however, because they *are* first-class filesystem objects.) -- Michael Wojcik Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not what one would expect, given familiarity with Windows. I do not expect that this is of concern to all, or even to any. It is only a noted behavior, which looks inconsistent with typical expectation. If the issue is indeed a Windows idiosyncrasy, then by all means just document it as unsupported. If the inclination is beyond just documentation, then by all means. Actually, I have not typically experienced this behavior, because I typically don't use shortcuts. Typically, I will use Windows Explorer and drill down manually in the hierarchy, typically shown to the left in the WE gui. In this one case, I have recently created the shortcut, in order to speed my access to the subtree that contains the papers I write. So, it was just by serendipity that I found this *bug* So, in truth, I don't think I've previously tried to use a shortcut in this way. wrb
Re: Bibtex bibliography
Bob Lounsbury wrote:
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Julio Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob, Babel matters because the person asking the question seems to be
french. Or at least he speaks french.
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Julio Rojas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good to know. Thanks. Would be nice if the people posting would
clarify their needs. Also, if they would contribute once they post a
question to let us know if a solution worked or if they are having
further trouble. Since the poster hasn't responded to anything in this
thread.
Cheers,
/Bob
Thanks a lot for your help. I must say that after seeing the first
answer yesterday I tried it and it worked so I didn't check again my
email until now. I couldn't imagine that it would start such a discussion :)
So the solution I used was:
\usepackage[english]{babel} \addto\captionsenglish
{\renewcommand{\bibname}{References}}
And it worked as expected. Julio was right, I speak french but in this
case I'm writing my thesis in english but the general solution is
appreciated since I may need to use french sometime.
Regards.
Jean-Michel
Re: Visual Tour (Was: New LyX website)
Michael, feel free to re-create pictures in screenshot section and/or graphical tour. the screenshots you sent are fine, just use standard colors and composition of toolbars. pavel Sorry, the lyx background was the strong light, back porch version, which looks pretty goofy. I have been studying the tour and screenshot bits, thinking how I could make a better pitch to my fellow technical idiots.
RE: WRB - Observations
Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. The proper ideal for any open source tool should be operating system universality, and I am sure that various tool makers provide mechanisms to facilitate the interface between disparate philosophies. While I don't know all the various tools, it appears that wxWidgets satisfies some of these idiosyncrasies and allows a very complex product to work. Bitterness at Microsoft? Why? The war is already won, and in the end, Windows too will become open source. Unix is the worst of all possible operating systems, except when compared to all other operating systems. There is no reason that this condition should persist. Rather, quite the opposite, and that will entail the incorporation of all available tools. What really surprises me is the effort various members have expended to encourage me not to help your project. I quite think your efforts are misguided. wrb -Original Message- From: Steve Litt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 7:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WRB - Observations On Monday 31 March 2008 19:19, William R. Buckley wrote: Please, it is not about how I would like things. Rather, it is not what one would expect, given familiarity with Windows. Windows matters why? At best it's one more operating system that the best of class LyX bookwriter runs on. At worst it's a tool used by an illegal monopoly (Judge Jackson's and the appeals court's words, not mine). SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: WRB - Observations
William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my system it's not even possible in Microsoft Word :) Does this Maxima tool use the standard Windows dialog? Joost
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
Richard Heck wrote: Geevarghese Philip wrote: Thanks, but it works and it doesn't : The theorems are displayed in LyX with sequential numbering, but when I try to compile the file into dvi using Ctrl-D, I get the same error as before : \theoremstyle is not defined. That's very odd. I compiled it and it worked fine for me. Are you using at least one theorem? Or are you only using other things, like corollaries? I was using other things only, such as lemmas and definitions: no theorem per se. Philip
RE: WRB - Observations
Joost: I really do not the particulars of the product. It would be best for you to download it from its sourceforge.net project site, and test for yourself. On WindowsXPsp2 (I think that is the latest - the system is configured for web-based automatic upgrading), and using Word 2003, I clicked File:Open and then from the dialog box (which always starts in My Documents) used the pull-down menu to select the D hard drive, and then double-clicked on the shortcut, which brings me to the corresponding directory, where I am able to view the files there stored. What version of Word are you using? -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joost Verburg Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 8:37 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: WRB - Observations William R. Buckley wrote: Well, the open source tool Maxima has no problem following a Windows shortcut in its browsing function. So, your position is therefore that LyX should be less than it might be, when other open source tools have no problem with a simple if arcane function. On my system it's not even possible in Microsoft Word :) Does this Maxima tool use the standard Windows dialog? Joost
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
rgheck wrote: This works as intended for the dvi/ps/pdf versions. I guess I am being greedy, but if only I could make LyX display the theorems with a sequential numbering, instead of prepending the subsection number to the theorem Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but it works. Thanks, but it works and it doesn't : The theorems are displayed in LyX with sequential numbering, but when I try to compile the file into dvi using Ctrl-D, I get the same error as before : \theoremstyle is not defined. --Philip
Re: Contents of Preamble...EndPreamble in Layout not being output to tex file
Geevarghese Philip wrote:
rgheck wrote:
...
Try the attached. You'll get a warning about counter redefinition, but
it works.
Thanks, but it works and it doesn't snip
I made a small change to the layout file you sent, and it works
wonderfully now. Except that I somehow have a feeling that it is an ugly
hack... I have attached the layout that works -- both for the LyX
display and for the generated outputs.
Thanks for your help.
-- Philip
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[report]{amsreport}
Format 4
Input stdclass.inc
Input amsdefs.inc
Input amsmaths-seq.inc
Input numreport.inc
Style Bibliography
TopSep4
LabelString Bibliography
LabelFont
Series Bold
SizeHuge
EndFont
End
Style Standard
Preamble
\usepackage{amsthm}
\theoremstyle{plain}
\newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}
EndPreamble
End
Re: New LyX website
On Monday 31 March 2008 02:07:40 Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: Hello all, For those who haven't seen it, the new LyX website is now at: http://www.lyx.org/test/index.php/Main/HomePage I like it very much! May I suggest that you include the Recent LyX News section right before the introductory text? It's short enough that it won't bother newcomers, and it's very useful for the rest of us. Either that, or a text somewhere (on the download button?) informing of which the latest stable version is. - Urtzi - -- Urtzi Jauregi Fakulteta za Matematiko in Fiziko, Univerza v Ljubljani Jadranska 19, Si-1000 Ljubljana Slovenija Tel: ++386 01 540 13 53 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
