Re: [Mac-Access]: Is anyone still around this list?

[Phil Halton]

Just curious, what does the H stand for in Jesus H Christ?
Holy?
Hector?
Hubba hubba?

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
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> O, Kay! o, kayy! O? Kayy!  I, get, the, point! You're 
> here!  You're on the list!  Must everyone clutter my damn inbox just to write 
> a two worded sentence, I'm here!  Hurray!  You're here!  Can you not take 
> some courticy and write the individual off list who asked rather than 
> clutterring up people's inboxes?  Jesus H Christ!  No offense whatsoever 
> intended, but this is becoming incredibly irritating!
> 
> Chris.
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> - Original Message - From: "wui chin Leong" 
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>> so am i too
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Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S

[Phil Halton]

It was the iPhone 5 that was recalled. I know, because mine was just replaced 
on the battery replacement program. Oddly enough, the battery life on the 
replacement is not even as good as the one that it replaced. I'm going to use 
this iPhone five until the fall and see if they come out with a 6S. At which 
time I'll upgrade.

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> On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:
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> There was one model, either the 5 or the 5S that had a recall on the 
> battery, because of the poor life.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mary Otten" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Iphone 5 or 4S
> 
> 
> Jude,
> I'm not sure what you mean when you say the battery life on the 5S is not 
> good. I have a 5S, and my battery last me all day with pretty heavy use. 
> Also, I have a for S, and the speed of the 5S is noticeably better than that 
> of the 4s. So, I don't agree with you about them being no better than each 
> other depending on the memory only. My experience simply does not bear that 
> out.
> I also don't know what you mean when you say that you can't use voiceover 
> with a Bluetooth keyboard. Of course you can. If you couldn't, how would you 
> know where you were navigating?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>> 
>> You presume wrong so far as bluetooth keyboards are concerned.  You can 
>> use VoiceOver or a bluetooth keyboard but not both at the same time and 
>> usually when you open an edit field the bluetooth keyboard pairing wins.
>> The 4s will be at end of life when ios10 comes out.
>> The whole 5 series is no better than the 4s you have unless the 5 series 
>> phone you get has more memory in it than your 4s.  Battery life is no good 
>> until you get a 6+ and that is the case since the 6+ battery is larger.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Twitter: JudeDaShiell
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2015, Judy Pryor wrote:
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>>> I have been offered an iPhone 5 for ?80 is it much better than my 4S. 
>>> Would it be better to find a 5S.   I also wondered which are the best BT 
>>> keyboards to work with an iPhone and I presume the problems with iOS
>>> 8  etc have been sorted out.
>>> Judy
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Re: [Mac-access]: how to import audio in to a new track in Amadeus Pro

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In order to “nudge a track in AmadeusPro, use the “shift track” dialog under 
the tracks menu. It’s fairly self-explanatory. 
Unfortunately, it is not remembered as the “last action” so you can’t use 
command T to repeat the nudge. You can, however, set up a key shortcut to the 
dialog, and then just press enter after the shortcut which will repeat the last 
nudge, either forward or backward, and by the last time value.
I used this feature in my last project to sync up a few tracks and it worked 
fine. 
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 2:54 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Yeah you can't nudge audio with amadeus, if you can I can't figure it out. I 
> add silence for example to the second track then paste over the first track. 
> If You want to nudge work with garage band. Recardo Walker has some excellent 
> podcasts on garage band and how it works. Look up the apple to the core 
> podcast. It's very very good.
>> On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Michael Marshall  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> i need to inport them and sink the tracks up.
>> this program is good but could be more intuitive.
>> 
>> Michael
>>> On 2 Apr 2015, at 4:24 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have not found a way to do this.  I normally mix my files sepratly  then 
>>> past over and hope it's right.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Michael Marshall  
 wrote:
 
 hey all,
 i want to do some mixing work and am wondering how i go about importing 
 each audio file in to a new track?
 
 thanks for any help
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Where to find complete list of keystrokes?

[Phil Halton]

It’s a bit too complex and time-consuming for me to explain. It’s not that it 
is complex, its just complex when you try to put it into words. Sorry, 
sometimes you just have to use your own mind and think for yourself. The 
rewards are greater that way. and how would one develop analytic skills if one 
didn’t try now and then, and not wait for another to give them the answers they 
feel they are entitled to? Sorry if this seems harsh, I guess I just don’t like 
being taken to task for trying  to be helpful.
good luck,



> On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Phil,
> I am not the original person who posted this question. But it seems to me, 
> that if you have found a system that helps somebody make sense of the Mac 
> keyboard commands and how they are structured, it would be way, way more 
> helpful if you would simply explain the system, which might help other people 
> including me, rather than telling them to see if they can figure it out for 
> themselves. This is not a fifth-grade classroom. It is a list where we try to 
> help each other. Not everybody has the sort of analytical mind which will 
> help them figure out this system. So, I would really love it if you could 
> actually post what you have figured out, and see if if it is helpful. Thank 
> you so much. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 7:42 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Ann,
>> The VoiceOver getting started manual, accessible through the VoiceOver help 
>> menu (VO+H, contains an appendix of all voice over commands and gestures.
>> The manual is an excellent resource, covering every aspect of VoiceOver in 
>> an exhaustive manner. When I got my first mac I spent a lot of time browsing 
>> through that manual and especially the commands appendix (appendix A). 
>> There’s a systematic design to the keyboard command structure — see if you 
>> can discover it.
>> Finally, after reading through the manual, the built-in keyboard help (VO+K) 
>> can act as a quick reference for recalling commands.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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>>> I am looking for two complete lists of keystrokes: One for VoiceOver with 
>>> Yosemite and one for Yosemite itself.  I have been to 
>>> apple.com/accessibility and not found either, but I am probably a poor 
>>> searcher.  Please can someone give me directions??, or perhaps direct links?
>>> 
>>> Much thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: Where to find complete list of keystrokes?

[Phil Halton]

Ann,
The VoiceOver getting started manual, accessible through the VoiceOver help 
menu (VO+H, contains an appendix of all voice over commands and gestures.
The manual is an excellent resource, covering every aspect of VoiceOver in an 
exhaustive manner. When I got my first mac I spent a lot of time browsing 
through that manual and especially the commands appendix (appendix A). There’s 
a systematic design to the keyboard command structure — see if you can discover 
it.
Finally, after reading through the manual, the built-in keyboard help (VO+K) 
can act as a quick reference for recalling commands.


> On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> I am looking for two complete lists of keystrokes: One for VoiceOver with 
> Yosemite and one for Yosemite itself.  I have been to apple.com/accessibility 
> and not found either, but I am probably a poor searcher.  Please can someone 
> give me directions??, or perhaps direct links?
> 
> Much thanks,
> 
> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: And issue with the innovative language application for my iPhone

[Phil Halton]

I use the app a lot but only for Spanish. I suggest you contact support with 
your problem.

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:42 AM, william lomas  wrote:
> 
> 
> hi all,
> 
> 
> are their any ios users of the inovative language application?
> 
> 
> for some reason, voiceover only shows me about six popular languages; how do 
> I get dutch korean etc. to show up for me to select?
> 
> thought this would have been addressed since the app has been out a while.
> 
> i want to learn dutch, yet i can't select this language under ios 8.2 on an 
> iphone 5s.
> 
> 
> thanks to all,
> 
> Will
> 
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Erratic Problem With Voiceover

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I have a problem with VoiceOver where the audio speeds up and then cuts out. It 
sounds a lot like a tape being suddenly wound up at high speed. It happens for 
a few seconds and then settles back down. I have assumed it is a sudden load on 
the processor that is responsible, but that’s probably too simple. Like Dane’s 
, its just an oddity and an annoyance.

> On Mar 19, 2015, at 5:46 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
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> In short yes, but only rarely. Sometimes I can go into sound in system 
> preferences and correct this.  A restart always sorts it. I have no idea why 
> this happens.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 19/03/2015 01:21, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Does anyone have problems sometimes where the audio of Voiceover goes over 
>> completely to one channel? The standard 2 channels are restored again if 
>> Voiceover is turned off and then restarted.
>> 
>> Again, I’m curious and its not so much of a problem rather a minor irritant 
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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

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How exactly did you make this happen? That info probably contains clues to  the 
solution.
I imagine that restoring that particular file, not the computer itself - that’s 
overkill, would fix the problem. but I’m not sure


> On Mar 7, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> When I try to edit a document on my Mac air, I get a message stating that I 
> don't own the file and cannot change it.  I screwed up and made this happen, 
> but I haven't figured out how to unscrew it.  Can I just take the computer 
> back to the time before I messed it up, or will someone please give me 
> step-by-babystep directions on how to fix this one???
> 
> thanks a bunch.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

[Phil Halton]

Honestly? How new to the Mac are you? I bet if you look in the edit menu you'll 
find the right command. You might want to read through the getting started 
manual that you can find in the voiceover help system by pressing vo and the 
letter H.  It answers a lot of these basic questions.


Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Okay. I found the envelope files. How do I delete them?
> When I do a shift delete, the computer just dings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
>> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, open the 
>>>> “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail databas

Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

[Phil Halton]

open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, 
open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, but 
> open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll find the 
> envelope files in there.

> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
>> the following 3 files.
>> 
>> Envelope Index
>> Envelope Index-shm
>> Envelope Index-wal
>> 
>> Hth.
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Amadeus Pro Question.

[Phil Halton]

If by bind you mean “tether”, then the answer is no.
indefatigably and indubitably no. :-)

you’re just going  to have to route the insertion point to the playback head 
with Command-Y.
BTW: I’v
> On Feb 8, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a way, in Amadeus Pro, to bind the "insertion point" to the
> "playback head?"  If not, there certainly should be a way.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: bluetooth audio question

[Phil Halton]

I know there is a bluetooth protocol that is necessary for this to happen, and 
not all devices support that protocol. I think it is “a2dp” or something like 
that, and it allows for VO along with other audio to carry over the device 
simultaneously without manual intervention.
.
I have a pair of aftershocks bluetooth bone-conductingheadphones that do this 
sort of thing nicely.

> On Feb 7, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Terry Clasper  
> wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
> 
> I’ll preface this by saying that I think I must be missing something pretty 
> fundamental as what I’m about to ask is, to my mind, a very basic requirement.
> 
> I have a pair of bluetooth headphones which I can quite happily pair with my 
> MacBook using the latest Yosemite.I can then hear output from, say, 
> iTunes coming over those headphones; however, in order to hear VO, I need to 
> go into the VO sound settings and explicitly choose the bluetooth headphones 
> as the output device.  This is all well and good until such times as either 
> the bluetooth headphones aren’t switched on or they run out of battery; at 
> that point, I am left with a mute computer 
> 
> My question, therefore, is…is there a way to have VO automatically use the 
> inbuilt sound from the computer if the selected device is not connected?
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Review: Samson C01U Pro USB Mic : AskAudio

[Phil Halton]

looks good Jim, thanks

> On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks:
> 
> If anyone is looking for a low-cost excellent USB condenser mic, read on.
> 
> हिंदी
> It appears USB mics are now being accepted as potentially good recording 
> solutions in many home studios. Does Samson's "budget" C01U Pro USB mic defy 
> its price? 
> In years past, if someone said “low-priced microphone” to a recording 
> engineer, he’d immediately flash to the tinny built-in mics in portable 
> recorders, or those cheap plastic table-top dictation mics that sounded like 
> a voice over the telephone. Well, that stereotype is long dead, and if any 
> vestige of it remains, the Samson C01U Pro is the final nail in that coffin!
> 
> The Samson C01U Pro USB Microphone.
> The C01U Pro is a high-quality USB condenser mic, and despite its budget 
> price, it delivers the goods—and not only for voice recordings. While it may 
> not be a replacement for your favorite Neumann, it provides excellent sound, 
> and a high degree of convenience, to boot.
> The Specs
> The C01U Pro is an upgraded version of Samson’s original C01U USB mic, 
> retaining the original’s specs, while adding additional functionality. The 
> Pro is a large-diaphragm condenser, with a super-cardioid pickup pattern, and 
> a smooth response. 
> 
> The C01U Pro's Frequency Response & Polar Pattern.
> As you can see from the graph, the on-axis response is commendably flat, with 
> a gentle rise of around 3–4 dB at 10 kHz—this gives the mic a nice sense of 
> detail on voices and instruments (like acoustic guitar), and is inline with 
> the response of most vocal condensers. Directionality is as advertised, and 
> the mic did a good job of rejecting room noise. 
> The USB connection
> Connectivity is strictly via USB, with a port at the bottom of the mic, where 
> an XLR connection normally would be. There is no other audio output, and the 
> supplied USB cable provides not only the audio connection to the computer, 
> but also power for the mic. Here’s where the C01U Pro exceeds its 
> predecessor. To enable the mic to function as a one-stop solution for simple 
> recording needs (like podcasts), this version is also a full USB interface. 
> Not only does the USB connection bring in the mic’s audio signal, but it 
> offers playback as well, via an 1/8th-inch stereo headphone jack on the front 
> of the mic. This provides low-latency monitoring of the mic signal, along 
> with audio from the DAW, and makes simple recording tasks a breeze—just plug 
> it in and go. Of course, the mic can also be used for input alone, monitoring 
> normally through the DAW interface’s outs—both approaches worked fine for me 
> when I tested it out. And while I tested only with a computer DAW, Samson 
> points out that the mic can also be used with iPads and iPhones (4S & later) 
> via the appropriate adaptor.
> Setting Up
> The USB connection is compatible with both Windows and Mac without the need 
> for external drivers—I tested it on a Mac. As soon as it’s plugged in, the 
> mic shows up in the System Preferences Sound panel where you can choose it as 
> either System Input or Output (or both) and set the recording and playback 
> levels. 
> 
> The C01U Pro in OS X Sound Preferences.
> Even once you close this panel, you can keep an eye on signal levels via a 
> two-color LED on the front of the mic itself, which lights up green for 
> power, and red to indicate clipping. 
> As expected, the C01U Pro also showed up in Logic as an option for Input and 
> Output, and it worked perfectly whether I monitored through its own headphone 
> amp, or via my regular interface. 
> 
> The C01U Pro in Logic's Audio Preferences.
> The only wrinkle was a somewhat finicky headphone jack on the mic—the plug on 
> one set of phones wouldn’t insert properly, leaving me with only one ear 
> working, though another headphone plugged in and worked without problems 
> (finicky connections are often the case with 1/8th-inch jacks). Other than 
> that, operation was seamless.
> The Extras
> Once again, to make the mic a one-stop solution, Samson has thoughtfully 
> included everything you’ll need to get going. 
> 
> The C01U Pro with accessories.
> The mic comes with a 10’ USB cable, a swivel mount, a table top tripod stand, 
> and even a standard thread for connection to a mic stand. These goodies are 
> heavy, well-made pieces, and provide solid support for the mic, which itself 
> has a nice heft. The only things not included were a separate pop filter 
> (naturally the mic has a built-in windscreen) or an external shock mount, but 
> in use I didn’t feel the need for either—the mic didn’t pick up undue 
> thumping even on its desk stand, and with the mic just a hair off-axis, I had 
> no issues with p-pops.
> In use
> The Samson more than held its own against the higher-end mic, with a warm, 
> yet clear sound quality. 
> I tested the C01U Pro with Logic, first recording my own 

Re: [Mac-access]: Let's be totally realistic: IPhone 6 and6+bending?

[Phil Halton]

I like what the Rolling Stones said about this, “You can’t always get what you 
want, but if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need”.

Sorry, This probably isn’t helpful either, but I’m in a weird mood this morning 
and this thread is killing me!

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> I added my comment only after someone did indeed give you a good response, 
> so I felt like that would have put you at ease enough to withstand a bit of 
> levity.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Let's be totally realistic: IPhone 6 
> and6+bending?
> 
> 
> OK,
> 
> No offense intended, and I know you meant well, but I wasn't asking for a
> smarty pants answer, with all due respect.  Normally, your comment would
> have been funny, yes, but I am truely seeking the answer to a very
> legitimate question here, and I feel that your message added practically
> nothing to the discussion.
> 
> Chris.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Glenn / Lenny" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Let's be totally realistic: IPhone 6 and
> 6+bending?
> 
> 
>> Chris,
>> Don't get bent out of shape over it! smile :)
>> LOL
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 2:07 AM
>> Subject: [Mac-access]: Let's be totally realistic: IPhone 6 and 6+
>> bending?
>> 
>> 
>> OK guys,
>> 
>> I've heard horror story after horror story about the IPhone 6, and 6 Plus
>> bending.  I'm admittedly now a little probably worked up over the hife.
>> 
>> I'm probably being way over over paranoid, and normally, I don't fall for
>> crap like this, but I will admit.  Out of its case, my new IPhone 6 Plus
>> does! feel very very flimsy.  It feels like it would definitely take some
>> force to do it, and I'm obviously! not about to try it intentionally,
>> thank
>> you very much?  but! is it more just hife, and just people trying to bash
>> Apple and make a stink?  I know that there are plenty of Youtube videos
>> out
>> there of people bending the phones purposely to show that it indeed can
>> and
>> will bend.  This said, I have a Pelican protector case.  Earlier tonight I
>> tried taking the thing off temporarily so I could show the bare phone to
>> my
>> mom, as she'd never seen a 6 of any sort before, let alone, a 6 Plus.
>> This
>> case is so snugged on the thing that pealing it off the back of the phone
>> literally! almost takes the jaws of life!  NO pun to the screen reader
>> intended.  LOL!  I swear when I did take it out, it felt like after trying
>> to put it back in, I didn't slide it up quite far enough to the top edge
>> of
>> the case, therefore it was a little crookid.  When I took it out again to
>> reposition it, I swear it felt like it had bent a slight bit.  I think I'm
>> probably just paranoid though.  Most likely it didn't bend, and if it did,
>> it would have been so slight that it eventually seems to a fixed itself.
>> Again, I know I'm probably having you look at me and go... Doo'ood,
>> Really?I
>> mean, O? Kayyy.  I never said! it couldn't! happen, don't get me wrong,
>> but
>> do you all agree with what AT&T and Apple both are telling me, that the
>> people who did! do this, were mistreating the phones badly, whether be
>> purposely or not?
>> 
>> I heard about one dude who literally apparently bent the thing on quote
>> unquote, accident, so badly that the thang literally caught fire!  So,
>> yeah...  I dunno.  I'm probably over-paranoid, and earlier is probably
>> just
>> all in my head, as I'm working myself up over it for no reason, but I
>> wanted
>> to confirm with you all.  I never really go outside and am travelling a
>> lot.
>> I never ever put my phones in my back pants pocket, I always keep the
>> thing
>> up on a counter/table/desk when not using it.  I also have a good hard
>> glass
>> screen protector over the screen, in addition to the case.  So, yeah.
>> What
>> do you all think?  Do I need to just calm down, and stop pannicking, or do
>> you all think I really do! have a reason to be so frightenned of this.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Let's be totally realistic: IPhone 6 and 6+ bending?

[Phil Halton]

I talked to a guy at the Apple store about this and he said essentially the 
same thing. If you’re going to put it in your back pocket and then sit on it, 
yeah, it’ll probably bend. But then, who puts $$$ smart phones in their back 
pocket and then sits on it? That’s right, a fool with very little common sense 
and  a lot of money to burn.
What’s the saying? “a fool and his money are soon parted”.

BTW: I thought Glen’s little pun was about as funny and appropriate as it gets 
under the circumstances. 
"Laughter is the best medicine"? Wow, I’m just full of little sayings this 
morning;-)


> On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:41 AM, Richard Bartholomew 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you treat the phone sensibly - as you seem to be doing - I don't think 
> there's any cause for concern.  Quite frankly, people who put their phone in 
> their back pocket and then sit down with it there, deserve to bend their 
> phone!
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Richard Bartholomew
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 08:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> OK guys,
>> 
>> I've heard horror story after horror story about the IPhone 6, and 6 Plus 
>> bending.  I'm admittedly now a little probably worked up over the hife.
>> 
>> I'm probably being way over over paranoid, and normally, I don't fall for 
>> crap like this, but I will admit.  Out of its case, my new IPhone 6 Plus 
>> does! feel very very flimsy.  It feels like it would definitely take some 
>> force to do it, and I'm obviously! not about to try it intentionally, thank 
>> you very much?  but! is it more just hife, and just people trying to bash 
>> Apple and make a stink?  I know that there are plenty of Youtube videos out 
>> there of people bending the phones purposely to show that it indeed can and 
>> will bend.  This said, I have a Pelican protector case.  Earlier tonight I 
>> tried taking the thing off temporarily so I could show the bare phone to my 
>> mom, as she'd never seen a 6 of any sort before, let alone, a 6 Plus.  This 
>> case is so snugged on the thing that pealing it off the back of the phone 
>> literally! almost takes the jaws of life!  NO pun to the screen reader 
>> intended.  LOL!  I swear when I did take it out, it felt like after trying 
>> to put it back in,
>  I didn't slide it up quite far enough to the top edge of the case, therefore 
> it was a little crookid.  When I took it out again to reposition it, I swear 
> it felt like it had bent a slight bit.  I think I'm probably just paranoid 
> though.  Most likely it didn't bend, and if it did, it would have been so 
> slight that it eventually seems to a fixed itself. Again, I know I'm probably 
> having you look at me and go... Doo'ood, Really?I mean, O? Kayyy.  I never 
> said! it couldn't! happen, don't get me wrong, but do you all agree with what 
> AT&T and Apple both are telling me, that the people who did! do this, were 
> mistreating the phones badly, whether be purposely or not?
>> 
>> I heard about one dude who literally apparently bent the thing on quote 
>> unquote, accident, so badly that the thang literally caught fire!  So, 
>> yeah...  I dunno.  I'm probably over-paranoid, and earlier is probably just 
>> all in my head, as I'm working myself up over it for no reason, but I wanted 
>> to confirm with you all.  I never really go outside and am travelling a lot. 
>> I never ever put my phones in my back pants pocket, I always keep the thing 
>> up on a counter/table/desk when not using it.  I also have a good hard glass 
>> screen protector over the screen, in addition to the case.  So, yeah.  What 
>> do you all think?  Do I need to just calm down, and stop pannicking, or do 
>> you all think I really do! have a reason to be so frightenned of this.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Restoring iMac from Superduper! and time machine

[Phil Halton]

I think he wants to roll back to Mavericks Sarah.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> You can do it how ever  I woudl just restare the os from a clean install then 
> use time machien with migration assistant,  and just do the stuff you want.
> 
> Take cjare. 
>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Paul, I have the same setup, super duper and time machine. I would certainly 
>> think it possible to first roll back the OS by re-instating your november 
>> backup, then restore your current data files from time machine.
>> 
>> I’ve personally never done it, and I don’t know if time machine has an 
>> automatic feature for data files restore only, or if you’d have to manually 
>> select and re-instate your desired data files, but it certainly sounds 
>> feasible
>> 
>> I find the time machine interface a bit clunky, but using the time machine 
>> controls window, you should be able to get to the desired date and time, and 
>> then just restore your data in large chunks - that is,  your main high-level 
>> folders, one at a time.
>> .
>> There’s probably a better way, but since I’ve only had a time capsule for a 
>> few months now and have never had to restore from it, I’m probably not the 
>> best source for an answer here.
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, 
>>> I am running the latest Yosemite on my iMac with the latest Superduper! 
>>> backup / restore application. I also have time machine always set on. 
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to restore my Mac OS from a Duperduper! backup taken in 
>>> November 2014 and then restore all user data such as Email, calendar, 
>>> iTunes library, 1 password data  and user data files from my time machine? 
>>> 
>>> I basically want to roll back a troublesome Mac OS and then restore all 
>>> other data to the current time without also restoring the troublesome Mac 
>>> OS. 
>>> 
>>> Best regards and Happy New Year….
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: [Mac-access]: Restoring iMac from Superduper! and time machine

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Paul, I have the same setup, super duper and time machine. I would certainly 
think it possible to first roll back the OS by re-instating your november 
backup, then restore your current data files from time machine.

I’ve personally never done it, and I don’t know if time machine has an 
automatic feature for data files restore only, or if you’d have to manually 
select and re-instate your desired data files, but it certainly sounds feasible

I find the time machine interface a bit clunky, but using the time machine 
controls window, you should be able to get to the desired date and time, and 
then just restore your data in large chunks - that is,  your main high-level 
folders, one at a time.
.
There’s probably a better way, but since I’ve only had a time capsule for a few 
months now and have never had to restore from it, I’m probably not the best 
source for an answer here.

> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello, 
> I am running the latest Yosemite on my iMac with the latest Superduper! 
> backup / restore application. I also have time machine always set on. 
> 
> Is it possible to restore my Mac OS from a Duperduper! backup taken in 
> November 2014 and then restore all user data such as Email, calendar, iTunes 
> library, 1 password data  and user data files from my time machine? 
> 
> I basically want to roll back a troublesome Mac OS and then restore all other 
> data to the current time without also restoring the troublesome Mac OS. 
> 
> Best regards and Happy New Year….
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Re: [Mac-access]: fine reader pro

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You know, I’ve always had problems with HP scanners. If you’re open to the 
idea, you can get a number of great little scanners that work just fine ABBYY 
FineReader Pro for around $100-$150. I use the Epson Perfection V33. All the 
Epson scanners work fine with ABBYY and can be had pretty cheap. I hear Canon 
scanners also work well.
Check on this list before buying and you’ll get a number of recommendations.

On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> My sighted Neighbour and I have spent several hours today with no good 
> results.  The native aps don't work either, the scanner sounds as if its 
> working mostly there are no results or if there are any you can't read them.  
> For some reason Abbey fine express sort of works with ICA but its not 
> straightforward.  Fine Reader again sounds as if its scanning then there is 
> nothing.  The task bar in HP manager is empty, where as before I could just 
> do a quick scan with it and it worked really well.
> So I feel stuck, I wish I hadnt updated it   was working reasonably well with 
> the twain driver. Judy  
> 
> On 7 Dec 2014, at 03:05, Bryan Jones  wrote:
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>> I see HP has a specific set of instructions for installing ICA drivers on 
>> ML. If you haven’t already tried this procedure, maybe it’s worth checking 
>> out. 
>> http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03428470
>> 
>> Also, what happens when you try to scan using one of the native apps such as 
>> Preview or Image Capture?
>> 
>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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>>> Hi , I now can get nothing to work with ICA driver there is an empty list 
>>> now in HP manager.  even if the scanners seems to scan there is nothing 
>>> there.  Judy
>>> 
>>> On 3 Dec 2014, at 08:45, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Judy,
 
 My first thought would be to make sure your Mac has the latest ICA 
 compliant driver for your scanner model installed. If I remember 
 correctly, FineReader Express used TWAIN scanner drivers while FineReader 
 Pro uses ICA drivers. You can probably get the latest driver by either 
 running software update on the Mac or by going to HP’s website and 
 checking the available drivers for your scanner model. You might also look 
 at Apple’s website listing compatible printers/scanners. The US version of 
 that page can be found here:
 http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201465
 
 If that does not resolve your issue, can you provide the following 
 information?
 1. What model is your HP scanner?
 2. What version of MacOS are you running?
 3. How is your scanner communicating with your Mac? (USB, Wi-Fi, etc)
 4. What is your FineReader version?
 5. What is the version of your installed HP scanner driver?
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
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> I downloaded Fine reader pro from the AP store last night as it was on 
> special offer.  My HP scanner works with Abbeyfine Express but I can't 
> get Fine reader pro to recognise the scanner it just says no device 
> connected.  So how do I connect it? 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Selecting columns and rows in Numbers.

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I find the easiest way to select a column or row is to move to the first cell 
you want to start the selection with, and then press shift command down arrow 
for columns, or right arrow for rows.
There are many other options available by entering the header with shift VO | 
(the key above the enter key). Once you press that key combo, you are in a list 
(vo doesn’t always announce this list). up and down arrow and press enter or VO 
space on either the column or row reference tab in that list, depending on 
whether you want to work with a column or a row. You then arrow right or left 
to move to the desired column, or up and down to move to the desired row tab.
 Press Vo Space on the desired column or row reference tab to select it. I 
believe that selects the entire row/column. Also, with the desired tab 
selected, press shift VO +M to bring up the context menu for that row/column. 
in there you can do all sorts of things including sorting and filtering data.
Very important! Don’t forget to exit the header with shift VO |  again when 
you’re done, to return to regular spreadsheet operations. 
Also, I think that once you exit the header, your selection is no longer 
selected, so do your copy etc while in the header. (I could be wrong on that - 
I just tried it quickly before writing this post).
On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:01 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> First time trying to use numbers. How do you select a column or row in 
> Numbers. The help talks about clicking the table, then the letter or number. 
> Since I cannot find this, how do you do it? Also if you hide a column, VO 
> still announces it. Any ideas?
> 
> Any good VO tutorials on Numbers that are text base?
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client

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That’s quite a good point elanor. Especially since there is a profit motive 
involved with this link - I don’t think Sarah is giving her podcast  away. A 
double standard perhaps?


On Nov 30, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Forgive me, I am not being rude but how come you are permitted to share a 
> link with us and David Griffith is not permitted to share his brilliant 
> podcasts links?  I am sure there is some perfectly logic reason and as I say 
> no offence meant.
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client
> 
> 
>> go to classic view. it works better then the what I like to call modern 
>> view.  I discuss this in my mail part of the yosemite bundle at 
>> http://tffppodcast .com/premium
>>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello everyone!
>>> Question: I’m running the latest Mac OS, and overtime I open my mail client 
>>> opens to my first email dating back to 2008.  However, mail client check 
>>> box is setup to display recent emails on top.
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: My Mac Podcasts

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Very cool idea, now, get to it!;-)


On Nov 30, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Sandratomkins  wrote:

> hi,
> Just a thought here, I really know nothing about it but…would it be possible 
> to divide, say, an MP3 file into small 32nd sections and then play it  to the 
> dictate function on the phone in order to have it transcribed?I know from 
> experience that the dictate function is extremely powerful and I don't think 
> we  are using it to its full potential yet.perhaps, there is room here for a 
> new app?to wit, and that that would take an MP3 file, divided up, and play 
> it, as it were, into the edit box of, for example, notes.in this way we could 
> transcribe radio programs, lectures, announcements et cetera.what do people 
> think?
> 
> Just musing,
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29 Nov 2014, at 20:01, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> I am perfectly happy for you to create text transcripts of my Podcasts  and 
>> am willing to post these if you email them back to me.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 22:39, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Let's hope they all go up on Apple Vis then as they are all excellent. 
>>> However, as stated previously elsewhere, it would be good to have at least 
>>> a list of the commands in a text format as it is difficult to take notes 
>>> while listening or to remember everything and in addition for those with 
>>> hearing difficulties it is a pity for them to miss out on such excellent 
>>> podcasts.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: My Mac Podcasts
>>> 
>>> 
 That is very kind of you.
 apple Vis have accepted the first Finder Podcast so that is an option for 
 the future as well.
 I am trying to assemble some offers of help with the technicalities of 
 creating aPodcast feed.
> On 28 Nov 2014, at 19:25, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
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> David:
> 
> If you like, I will host your podcasts for you on my FTP server.
> 
> In any case, I would like to have access to them.
> 
> Thanks all over the place.
> 
>> On 11/28/2014 2:12 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I have received a message that my posting of Mac Podcasts breach this 
>> list conditions and have been rejected by the Moderator.
>> 
>> I shall not therefore be posting any more of my Mac Podcast series here.
>> If anybody wants to retain access to these  podcasts as they emerge over 
>> the next few weeks then please contact me off list and I can direct you 
>> to alternativemailing lists resources where these podcasts can still 
>> be accessed .
>> 
>> I may also consider setting up a contact group for people still wanting 
>> the podcasts but cannot guarantee this.
>> David Griffith
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apps and Folders in Applications

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Some apps install themselves, folder and all, in the main applications folder. 
For example, my external sound card, Roland Quad Capture, installed a folder in 
the apps folder called Roland that contains several files associated with the 
device. 
Generally, when you are told to copy the .app file to the applications folder, 
it refers only to the .app file and not to any collection of files and folders.
Also, you might notice that there is a subfolder in the applications folder 
called utilities. There’s an example of Apple in its wisdom organizing apps 
into subfolders. 
So again, when installing your average app, just copy the .app file into 
applications folder and you’ll be fine.
 
On Nov 30, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Still feeling a newbee with my Mac, can someone explain why I find I have 
> some folders in my Applications folder?  I thought this folder specifically 
> held apps.  When wanting to install Audasity for example on my Mac Book Pro, 
> the on-screen instruction told me to copy the Audasity folder to my 
> Applications folder.  I thought that I had to only put the Audasity App in 
> that folder.  This was when I came to note that there were a few other 
> folders in the Applications folder hence my question to the list.
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Pages and table of contents

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Ann, could you refresh our memories as to were we can get this “move mouse” 
utility? A google search brought up a lot of somewhat ambiguous results. I’m 
just starting to use Pages again and I think its time to get hold of this mouse 
move utility.
thanks

On Nov 29, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Another retrograde step in the new Pages. Under Mavericks, the table of 
> contents formatter allowed a VoiceOver user to check or uncheck any elements 
> in the table of contents. Since Yosemite and the latest Pages, those 
> checkboxes are inaccessible with VO.
> 
> However, there is a workaround. That handy little utility MoveMouse allows 
> you to find these checkboxes so that they can be checked or unchecked using 
> the mouse or trackpad. The one to the left of the element name is quite 
> close, so only a couple of moves left are necessary. The one to the right 
> requires around ten moves right.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: a question about my mac book air

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There is also a ethernet to thunderbolt adaptor, as well as one for USB. You 
can get these adaptors from Apple. I use one that adapts firewire to 
thunderbolt for connecting an external backup drive.

On Nov 24, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> I read the below with interest as I did not know such a dongle exists.  This 
> is good to know because even with the latest Yosemite update I still do not 
> get a constant wi-fi connection on my Mac Book Air.  Anyone else have this 
> problem with MBA?
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Rodney Haynie" 
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> 
>> Melissa,
>> There is no Ethernet port on the MBA. But you do have USB, so you
>> could purchase a USB to Ethernet dongle (little conversion cord), and
>> then plug the USB into the MBA, the Ethernet into the dongle, and the
>> other end of the Ethernet into the router.
>> I purchased mine from the Apple store, but I would assume you could
>> get the USB to Ethernet conversion cord from many places like Best
>> Buy.
>> Take care.
>> Rodney
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/24/14, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
>>> I'm going out of town and my dad doesn't know how to turn his wifi on using
>>> his windows 8 computer.  My question is, is there a port on my macbook air
>>> where I can hook his modem to my computer so I can have internet access? I
>>> have no cell signal or internet signal using my phone when I go out there.
>>> I don't think there is a port, but was hoping I was missing something.
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

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Nick,

I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. And, 
it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO friendly apps 
that are all too infrequent.
Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? I’ll 
bet it’s great there too.
Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few Mac 
apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word processing.
 

On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I turned 
> off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over and moved 
> the suction successfully.
> 
> Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
>> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at 
>> a time.
>> 
>> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
>> for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long 
>> writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents works 
>> really well with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
>> Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
>> definitely check it out for your next writing project.
>> 
>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
>> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
>> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug 
>>  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to 
>> apple about this wiht no results.
>> 
>> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
>> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
>> out my hair. 
>> 
>> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
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Re: [Mac-access]: Get Backup Pro is a solid backup utility for Macs

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I’m sorry, I didn’t read the original post on this app, but how is it any 
better/different than SuperDuper? Does it have anything to differentiate itself 
from the other two backup apps (CCC and Supder Duper).

On Oct 26, 2014, at 12:59 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I just reviewed the information on this app. My question is: Will this work 
> with the OS of Mountain Lion? I haven't upgraded to Yosemite yet, but would 
> like to purchase it and hopefully use it before installing Yosemite. It would 
> be nice to have a clone of the computer, plus a good all-around backup 
> program. Thanks for this gem. 
> 
> Eileen 
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> another back up utility hits the scene and it appears to be good. Just don't 
>> get the version from the app store as that version does not allow due to 
>> apple's rules it to take admin privileges. 
>> 
>> Link is below.
>> 
>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2014/10/25/get-backup-pro-is-a-solid-backup-utility-for-macs/?ncid=rss_truncated
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Re: V M Ware fusion 7 or Parallels

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for some reason you wound up in my junk mailbox, but no matter… Fusion 7 is the 
only real way to go. Parallels is not accessible to any extent that would make 
it worth the bother, whereas fusion is completely accessible to VoiceOver. 
Version 7 is compatible with the latest OSX, and its always a good idea to keep 
up with the latest versions of apps if possible.
you’ll encounter a little difficulty when setting up your windows screen 
reader, there is no insert key on the mac, and you can’t use the caps lock key 
either as OSX doesn’t treat it as an actual key press that can be passed 
through to the windows virtual machine,  both of these keys being   the 
preferred  modifier keys for windows screen readers. So, you’ll have to do a 
few little tricks to get around that - no problem though - it is easily done 
and we’ll help you when you get to that.

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> 
> I'm a new owner of a MacBook Air.
> 
> My question: V M Ware fusion or Parallels, which is more friendly with VO?
> 
> Also which version will you recommend as a VO user?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: IOS 8.1 still

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I’ve found that sometimes money reader doesn’t work for me either. in those 
cases, I remove  it from memory  using the app switcher, doing a three finger 
swipe  upwards  and restart the app. it then works fine.
I’m still using IOS 7, but its worth a try on IOS 8.
 

On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Anna Byrne  wrote:

> I understand money reader works for some people with iOS 8, but it doesn't 
> for me.
> At 08:34 PM 10/22/2014, you wrote:
>> Okay Christopher I have heard from someone that his caller id is 
>> working.does  my other thing is does look tell money reader work someone on 
>> the list said it did not when ios 8 first came out.
>> Does  it work  now thanks.
>> cheers Michael.
>> -Original Message- From: christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:43 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: IOS 8.1 still
>> 
>> Here caller id still doesn't work and VoiceOver is rock solid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Oct 2014, at 11:42, michael's mail box  
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>>> Hi guys can you tell me if the caller ID for incoming calls has been fixed 
>>> now.
>>> And no more lock up  and voiceover stop talking now.
>>> cheers Michael.
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Re: OS 10.10, does it still support the Reinstall option from the Recovery Partition?

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Andy, I just did the following before answering your question:
1) restart the mac.
2) at the log on chime sound, immediately press and hold command + R.
3) hold for a full fifteen seconds then release.
4) wait another 10 seconds and then turn on VoiceOver with command +F5.

Note: these times vary. I’d stick with the initial fifteen seconds although it 
might be overkill. if the ten seconds still doesn’t bring up Fred, keep trying 
- it’ll come up talking in a bit. Fred comes up as the default recovery mode 
voice.
end note:

6) you are presented with the recovery mode menu that has a table containing 
three options, reinstall OSX, get help, and Disk Utility.
BTW: this is the preferred disk utility app for doing permissions repairs.

After you finish with the recovery mode, simply quit with command Q and you’ll 
be prompted to reboot with options for which disk to boot into - default is 
your Mac HD.

To reinstall the OS, simply select the option from the table and hit enter, 
then follow the yellow brick road.

On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> I’ve never reinstalled an operating system in all my computing days, and 
> don’t just want to try the keystroke command r on boot up just to see what 
> happens, in case I get stuck and can’t get out!
> 
> So, if I do this keystroke on boot up, what can I expect to see? I’m thinking 
> about doing a clean installation of Yosemite, but certainly don’t want to 
> mess things up -
> 
> Andy
> On 23 Oct 2014, at 10:23, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> I have never used that technique.
>> 
>> I simply hold command R as the Mac Reboots which I find a lot easier.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>>> On 23 Oct 2014, at 08:49, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
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>>> Question says it all.
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering this as I wish to do a reinstall of the OS on my Macbook Pro 
>>> but can’t bring up the recovery boot process, I shut the computer down and 
>>> then restart whilst holding down the option key, I hold this down for 15 
>>> seconds or so.
>>> 
>>> Then I use the left arrow key to hopefully select the recovery utility or 
>>> whatever its called and then press enter but unfortunately the Macbook 
>>> boots up as it normally should.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I’ve tried hitting the right arrow after releasing the option key at 
>>> start-up .
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>>> I take it the option key is the key next to command?
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

[Phil Halton]

I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes telling 
how it can be done, but you don’t divulge the desired information. Cruel! Very 
Cruel!

On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
> could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
> surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change would 
> also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information when we 
> receive new e-mails.
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Marshall" 
> 
> To: "mac access" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
> Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
> rowadded message.
> 
> 
>> hey all,
>> as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
>> as the 1 row added message.
>> My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
>> If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 1 
>> row added and tell VO to say nothing.
>> like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I am 
>> at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
>> Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
>> some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
>> over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
>> Let me know what you think.
>> i have to do something.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: Arrow keys in Safari

[Phil Halton]

what VO performance bug? Did they screw up VO with yosemite?


On Oct 17, 2014, at 4:53 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> I notice from Apple Vis that there is a claim that a major benefit of the 
> upgrade to 10.10 is the ability to navigate and read and select using normal 
> arrow keys in Safari.
> 
> I just thought people should know that this has been available in Mavericks 
> 10.9 for quite a while now. I first noticed it sat the beginning of September.
> 
> Not a reason not to upgrade but if somebody wanted to stick to Mavericks 
> because of the VO performance bug they should know that this is available.
> 
> 
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Re: Scanning Handwriting on the Mac

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any scanner will produce a jpg image file containing a picture of the scanned 
page(s). As long as you don’t expect to OCR the scanned images you won’t be 
disappointed. I’d  use ABBYY fine reader pro, if you have it for scanning 
multiple pages. I think express is restricted to one page at a time.
On Oct 10, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Leo Bissonnette  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been given a journal that is all done in handwriting. I have been 
> asked to scan it so that we can send on the scanned images.
> 
> Wondering how best to handle this on my Mac.
> 
> Am looking at Abbyy Fine Reader and Abbyy Fine Reader Express.
> 
> Any suggestions on how best to deal with this process would be appreciated.
> 
> Leo
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> 
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Re: new macbook air owner with question

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Have you read through the “getting started guide”, used keyboard help, taken 
the quick start tutorial? They are all available by pressing VO+H (command 
option H) on your mac. you’ll do yourself a great favour and answer most if not 
all of your mac questions by taking those initial steps. If you’re still stuck 
after that, then we can help you, but to ask for help without having first done 
all you can to learn the ins and outs of voice over on the mac, well…
My favourite help in the early days was the keyboard help VO+K. It helped me 
remember and try out the keystrokes that the getting started guide and the 
quick start tutorial were teaching me.

 
On Oct 1, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Bob Moore  wrote:

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> three years.  I like all others are finding a learning curve.  But the
> question that I am needing help on today is the app store.  What do you do
> after finding the search field and putting the name of the app in.  I hear
> the mac tell me that the name as been highlighted and that is where I get
> lost.  I have to say that the help at the Apple Store here was not a great
> amount of help. If anyone could be of some help I would appreciate it.  I am
> one of those people that needs step by step linstructions.  Thanks for any
> help.  
> 
> 
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Re: Audio recorder for Mac OS

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 QuickTime player will also do an adequate job.

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> Hello,
> 
> Just downloaded Smart Recorder. It’s a free download from the app store. 
> Works nicely with VoiceOver.
> 
> Leo
> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m looking for a simple audio recorder that runs on Mac OS X. I’d like to 
>> record spoken text with the internal microphone of my Mac or maybe with an 
>> external mic.
>> 
>> Do you know such an app which is also good useable with VoiceOver?
>> 
>> Thanks and regards from the Oktoberfest Munich :-),
>> 
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Re: Deleting Virtual Machines in VmWare Fusion

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I could be wrong, but since vm is just  a file, You should just be able to 
delete it as you would any other file. However, since it is so large you might 
have trouble with it going into the trash. Then again Mac OSx might ask you if 
you want to just get rid of it rather than try to store it in the trash, since 
it is so big. As long as you don't need the authorization key, you can just 
delete the VM file. Again, I mostly guessing here but that's what I think would 
happen.

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> Hi, Folks.  I’m using Fusion 7, and would like to delete a Windows XP virtual 
> machine before installing a more modern version of Windows.  How do I delete 
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Re: How to access setings for dropbox on the mac.

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I have the latest Mac dropbox app 2.10.74 I think, and I still use the option 
mouse click to bring up the dropbox menu from the extras menu bar. It’s the 
only way I know to get at that context menu. Of course, first route the mouse 
to the dropbox icon, then hold down the option key and click the mouse on your 
air/pro, or on an external mouse
open the preferences menu item in the drop down menu and under “account”, you 
can change the default location of the dropbox folder. I’m not sure if you can 
successfully use an external disc, but go ahead and experiment with some dummy 
files and see what happens when you pull the plug.
under “account”, You can also use selective sync to limit the folders that 
dropbox syncs onto your mac, if space is a concern. But, you’ll need sighted 
assistance to click the various folders that you want to sync and uncheck those 
you don’t want on your machine.

I have two macs, an iMac with a 1TB drive that I rarely use, and a mac book air 
with 256gb flash. I keep the dropbox folders totally synced on the iMac, and 
only some of the more critical folders synced on the air. If I want something 
ported over to the air, I simply move it into my public folder on the iMac and 
then copy it into the desired  folder on the air.

This is how I conserve space on my air while still having the advantages of 
dropbox.
. 
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> Hi.
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> I have got the new plan from dropbox with 1 tb space as a pro customer. Can 
> any one tell me, how I can access the setings on the mac, I have done it 
> before, but yesterday I could not go into setings from the menu bar.
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> Can I have my data on a nother disc than my macs, what will happen if this 
> disc accidentally is disconnected?
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Re: Accessible iPhone WEB browser.

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I was thinking of IOS browsers when I made my comments that Safari sucked pond 
water. I do like safari on the mac, but would like to find something else for 
ios. Any good ios browser suggestions?

On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:39 PM, matthew stubbs  wrote:

> There is a  hole list of  them  you  can use.
> Instabrowser, atonicweb etc but  like what  has been stated before none are 
> able  to be your  default browser.
> It depends what you want  to use it for.  But like most  people have  said I 
> personally find  safari work best  for me  and does all I need it to do.
> On 22 Aug 2014, at 18:23, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>> I personally don't see a use for any other web browser. There isn't any use, 
>> accessibility wise, for anything besides safari. Safari can already 
>> downloading stuff, I used it to download things and send them to dropbox.
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:18, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I personally  like safari, but I have use and also like dgoogle chrome as a 
>>> web browser. you cannot how ever use it as yoru default browser but it 
>>> works.
 On Aug 22, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
  wrote:
 
 Try google or Chrome
 
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Re: Accessible iPhone WEB browser.

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I hope so too. Safari sucks Pondwater in my opinion.

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Re: I think I broke mail

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Three things, first of all, the word would be ignorant and not stupid.
You're not stupid you just don't have certain information, And there's no 
reason to apologize for that. 
Secondly, if I were you I would completely forget about windows as a reference 
point for learning the Mac. They are two different animals, and It will only 
interfere with your understanding of the Mac operating system.
Thirdly, I believe John's information is on his website and I think that 
website is called Macfortheblind.com.
 Good luck Eleanor 

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> Sorry to be stupid here but I am interested in this although it all sounds 
> highly technical for me at this stage does this differ from the default of 
> the email client maybe somebody could explain to me in terms of Windows how 
> this display is beneficial is John spoke publicly available are is it a boat 
> to purchase
> 
>> On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:42, Bryan Jones  wrote:
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>> Hello Sarah,
>> 
>> Here’s how I am able to rearrange columns in the classic view of Mail in 
>> Mavericks 10.9.4. Thanks to John Panarese’ excellent macforthe blind.com 
>> website for reminding me how to move focus to the header row.
>> 
>> 1. Interact with the messages list in Mail.
>> 2. Press VO+Shift+\ to move focus to the column headers.
>> 3. Press VO+left or right arrows to move focus to the “status” column header.
>> 4. Press VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-down click.
>> 5. Press VO+right or left arrow to move focus where you want to drop the 
>> status column. VO will announce the name of each header as you move past it.
>> 6. When you’ve reached the desired location for your status column, press 
>> VO+Command+Shift+Spacebar to perform a mouse-up. This should drop the column 
>> in it’s new location.
>> 7. When you are done rearranging columns, press VO+Shift+\ to return focus 
>> to the body of the messages list.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Bryan
>> 
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>>> Hello to all. How do I rearrange columns in mail. I want my status to the 
>>> right of my conversations thing. I some how managed to move it. Can someone 
>>> advise on how I broke it, and then how to fix?
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Re: audio tutorials for protools with VO?

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those tutorials are for a past version of ProTools that is no longer available, 
or at least is not easily found. I don’t think the same level of accessibility 
exists in the most recent versions - they broke a lot of it.

On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Matthew Carello  wrote:

> Hello there. www.applevis.com has a few great podcasts on how to use pro 
> tools. you can either search for it in the search area or go to the podcasts 
> link. You can browse by category or just go through the list of podcasts. 
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:07 AM, Michael Marshall  
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>> hey listers,
>> since i got my novation mini controller i’m very anxious to have a good play 
>> with protools.
>> First of all, does it have any level of accessibility with VO?
>> if this is the case and i can use it some how are there any audio tutorials 
>> on using this magnificent program. i am a beginner so would need to start 
>> from the ground up. i’m going to try protools 10.
>> any help would be much appreciated.
>> thanks
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Re: Scanning with the Epson scanner and Fine Reader

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you read the scanned material in another app like Textedit. I have things setup 
so that when I finish a scan, FineReader converts the pages and then opens 
textedit with the scanned document for reading.
There is no facility for reading scanned documents inside FineReader as far as 
I know. It is just for scanning and converting to text.

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> I just got my new Epson scanner and I installed the Fine Reader software.  I 
> think I have the settings where I want them but how do you just scan in stuff 
> like snail mail.  I did a test document but how do you listen to what you’ve 
> scanned in?  I’m coming from a K1000 and Windows environment.  
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Re: Crome

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Sean, Control-option is  the VoiceOver modifier key. Control-command is the 
chromeVox modifier key. I know you knew that, but I thought that the 
information should be corrected for the benefit of others.


On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Margaret,
> 
> Chrome uses control option  to activate command options. If you press 
> cmd quickly twice  toggles between  on/off  sticky mode. This is the method 
> in which I use it.  Below are some commands to know:
> 
> ctrl opt = - toggles between group, object, line, and word. This is the way 
> in which you control the amount of information you hear at once. I normally 
> use object and line.
> ctrl opt up/down arrows moves you through the page at the level of 
> information you want to hear.
> ctrl opt left and right arrow moves at the next lower level of information. 
> For example, if you are using Line. Then left/right arrow will move by word.
> ctrl opt . “period” brings up the list of available options with their 
> parameters.
> enter - activates a link or object.
> 
> There is no form modes or the need to interact with the editable web 
> elements. Make sure you do not have the sticky mode enable when entering in 
> data. 
> 
> You have to turn on table mode to navigate them by row, cel, column, etc.
> 
> There are other options, but this will get you started.
> 
> On 23 Jun 2014, at 6:19 am, Margaret Booth  wrote:
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>> A while ago someone one on the list sent links on where to download chrome 
>> and the how to use chrome. I did save the email at the time but I have had 
>> some issues with my emails and I lost the email. Could someone please send 
>> me the information on chrome. 
>> 
>> Margaret
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Re: Crome

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You can download chrome from www.chrome.Google.com. Then if you want the 
chromeVox   screen reader,  Google chromeVox and follow the instructions on the 
chromeVox website.
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> A while ago someone one on the list sent links on where to download chrome 
> and the how to use chrome. I did save the email at the time but I have had 
> some issues with my emails and I lost the email. Could someone please send me 
> the information on chrome. 
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Re: Numbers

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Actually, vo plus Jay will jump you to the formatter.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> Try the right side of the screen. If it is layed out the same wya as pages 
> you will sotp interacting and go to the right to the inspector and go from 
> there.
>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Graham Smith  wrote:
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>> ok, not sure where the formatter is, or the number pop up button.  I have no 
>> such options under format on the main menu.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>>> That’s done in the formatter. when you select “number” from the popup, then 
>>> you can also set the decimal places and other things.
>>> I usually do this by selecting an entire column that is going to be used to 
>>> hold numeric data, and then format the entire column at once in the 
>>> formatter.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Graham Smith  wrote:
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>>>> How can I alter the number of decimal places showing in a cell please.
>>>> 
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Re: Numbers

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That’s done in the formatter. when you select “number” from the popup, then you 
can also set the decimal places and other things.
I usually do this by selecting an entire column that is going to be used to 
hold numeric data, and then format the entire column at once in the formatter.

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Re: Epson scanner

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It’s not the scanner that determines quality of scan so much as the scanning 
software. Most all scanners are the same as far as DPI capability. As far as 
books and other materials, that’s also a function of the scanning software and 
is not dependent on the scanner. Finereader Pro does a good job of scanning 
complex documents like multiple columns and so forth.
And, I run the scanner completely from within the software interface of 
FineReader Pro. The scanner is pretty bare bones and has four buttons that I 
never bother with except for the power on/off button which has a little dimple 
on it for identification purposes.

On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Juaanita Marttin  
wrote:

> Okay.  That’s good to know.
> I plan to scan my snail mail and my Time magazine with it.  How well does it 
> work with books and magazines?
> Also, when you’re scanning, do you use a button on the Mac keyboard, or a 
> button on the scanner itself?
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>> I have and use the Epson V33 and it works great with Fine reader pro or 
>> express. I thought they were out of production, but I guess not - either 
>> that or yours is a left over. Either way for the price you can’t go wrong.. 
>> They’re all called photo scanners these days - it just means you can put a 
>> picture on the glass and scan it. It’s kind of like calling computers 
>> “digital computers”, its a marketing double speak thing.
>> 
>> 
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>>> software for the Mac.  I looked on Amazon and I see the scanner for $82.  
>>> It says it’s a photo scanner.  Is this the right one?
>>> It doesn’t say that it’s a flatbed scanner but I assume it is.  I’d just 
>>> like a little clarification before I make the purchase.
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Epson scanner

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I have and use the Epson V33 and it works great with Fine reader pro or 
express. I thought they were out of production, but I guess not - either that 
or yours is a left over. Either way for the price you can’t go wrong.. They’re 
all called photo scanners these days - it just means you can put a picture on 
the glass and scan it. It’s kind of like calling computers “digital computers”, 
its a marketing double speak thing.


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> software for the Mac.  I looked on Amazon and I see the scanner for $82.  It 
> says it’s a photo scanner.  Is this the right one?
> It doesn’t say that it’s a flatbed scanner but I assume it is.  I’d just like 
> a little clarification before I make the purchase.
> Thanks.
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Re: Bootcamp

[Phil Halton]

Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like windows, 
on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the mac via 
the Bootcamp utility. 
With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and 
install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select 
which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted assistant 
to do the windows installation. 
With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up into 
one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you would 
switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the installation 
can be done without sighted assistance. 
.

BTW: in the time it took you to chastise  the woman, you could have written out 
a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp.
I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of 
the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, or 
give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering answering at 
all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told me when I was 
shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor doesn’t mean you can 
do a crappy job”.
Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is what 
happens when you get old and opinionated.
 

 . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all
> that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer.
> 
> Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask
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> have clearly not even bothered  to take the effort to learn how to research
> an issue on Google or perhaps Wikipedia themselves.Those of us who try
> to help by answering questions most often do so patiently despite this
> obvious lack of effort so it does not fit well with me when, fairly
> bizarrely,  people trying to help are criticised for lack of effort. I am
> happy to spoon feed information and if necessary consult Google and
> Wikipedia and other sources for answers on others behalf  but I do not think
> any of us have the right to demand more from list members who are only, in
> the end,  trying to help.
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
> Sent: 05 June 2014 09:16
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bootcamp
> 
> sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going
> to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation
> rather than one liners
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark  wrote:
>> 
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>> 
>> Orin
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>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>> Skype: orin1112
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
> wrote:
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>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
> days?
>>> regards
>>> Wil
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Re: mac book air and bump ons

[Phil Halton]

I use them on my MacBook air to identify the F and  J keys without any trouble. 
They are the smallest dots I can find in the lid closes fine with them on.

These keys do have little built-in dots but they are so small that they're not 
helpful. That's why I use the larger bump on dots. Sent from my IPhone


> On Jun 1, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Pauline Lawler  wrote:
> 
> Hello, i have bumpons on my Macbook pro and there is no problem. However 
> small bumpons.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Pauline LawlerSent from my iPhone
> 
> On 1 Jun 2014, at 17:58, Ian Harrison  
> wrote:
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> 
> Dear listers,
> 
> I am thinking of buying a laptop for use at university.
> 
> An attractive option is the mac book air, but I am worried about one aspect. 
> I am a pretty good typist, but rely on bump ons to guide me around the 
> wireless keyboard I use with my mac mini. 
> 
> If I put bump ons on the keyboard for the air, witll this have an impact on 
> the screen when closed, or even stop it shutting down? Are there any ways to 
> ensure little or no damage from using bump ons?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Fusion; OS X Grabbing Keyboard Control

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I always just press control+command+F to switch screen modes. then I hit the 
tab key a few times if necessary and that gets focus back to the VM. Actually, 
I think that control+command is actually a command to grab/rrelease focus, and 
that’s why it works - don’t really know - it just works.
 
On May 30, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I’m experiencing an irritating issue with Fusion.  It is continually grabbing 
> keyboard control and I can’t get back to my VM.  Anybody tell me how to get 
> focus back to the VM via keyboard?
> 
> I don’t want to discuss the VM here because it’s off topic.  But this seems 
> to be an issue with Fusion itself, not the VM.
> 
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Re: Moving DropBox

[Phil Halton]

I’m coming to this thread late, but I just wanted to make sure you know that 
moving the dropbox  folder is done via the dropbox preferences, under the 
account tab. In that tab you can also  specify selective syncing where you 
choose what folders to sync. I also have a small SSD on my MBAir and so I tell 
dropbox to only sync a few critical folders from my total dropbox system. that 
way I only have  around 20GB of my total 50 GB dropbox folder on my MBAir.
Selective syncing requires sighted assistance as you have to check the 
checkboxes next to a folder and you can’t get the mouse there without at least 
having a little bit of sight.
, and using Zoom with mouse tracking etc.
I am currently using dropbox V2.8.2 and I get to the preferences by routing 
mouse to VO while on the dropbox extras menu item, then doing an option 
mousepad click to bring up the context menu and selecting “preferences” from 
the context menu.
 

On May 28, 2014, at 5:28 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> I went and checked the Inspector and the folder was indeed unlocked but,
> thinking about it,   this has to have been the case otherwise  the DropBox
> synch could not work as it should.
> 
> I then thought give it another go.  You never know.
> Again the  DropBox app spent an hour transferring files before giving up the
> ghost saying I did not have sufficient permission to complete the task. This
> is a real annoyance as I have a small 256GB solid state primary drive and
> DropBox is unnecessarily hogging up a whole 60gb of this.
> 
> I think a complete clean install of Maverick is probably my only course and
> hope that this time when I install DropBox that I can specify the DropBox
> folder location at install stage.  
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: 27 May 2014 17:26
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Moving DropBox
> 
> Really? I can successfuly do this every single time. I woudl make sure that
> the folder is unlocked in the inspecter as that's what might be causing the
> issue.
> 
>> On May 27, 2014, at 2:01, "David Griffith" 
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Actually I have tried to do this 4 times now and failed annoyingly  right
> at
>> the end when DropBox tells me I do not  have the permission to do this. It
>> would be more helpful if the preferences panel told you this at the very
>> start rather than labouring away apparently moving the folder for you.
>> 
>> I have ensured that all my other dropBoxes on devices and PCs are offline,
>> even to the extent of turning off every other device I have dropbox on,
> and
>> not synchronizing but still after about an hour of chuntering  away
> copying
>> material across DropBox refuses to reassign the official DropBox onto the
>> drive I have tried to move it to on my iMac. The result is simply that I
> get
>> a copy of dropBox on another drive but my original setup is left
>> undisturbed.
>> 
>> I have tried to Google this problem without success. This is only a
> problem
>> on the Mac side as I have moved DropBox folders without problem on Windows
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 27 May 2014 06:52
>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Moving DropBox
>> 
>> sure. Just change the folder over in the drobox prefs. It will redownload
>> everything but then you can just delete the one from the home drive.
>> 
>> Im actually thinking of doing the same thing myself as I need the space
> for
>> my gb stuff for the release of something in a few months. 
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On May 26, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good morning all
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know whether it's possible to move your DropBox folder once
>> the client is installed?  Ours is becoming too large for the home drive
> and
>> I want to move it on to our Thunderbolt drive.  On the PC it won't make
> any
>> difference, just the Mac.  The reasons for this requirement are numerous,
>> but one of the most pressing is space saving.  My own MacBook Air's
> internal
>> flash drive is becoming rather too full.  There are other reasons but I am
>> not going to detail them here because it would take me off topic.
>>> 
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Re: help with windows problem on my mac.

[Phil Halton]

At the risk of sounding overly simplistic, have you tried rebooting windows? 
Sometimes weird stuff happens and rebooting is the inelegant  but effective 
solution. It could well be that the windows side speakers got muted somehow.  

On May 17, 2014, at 2:58 AM, Ian McNamara  wrote:

> I am thinking of getting a family member to check that for me. Although 
> nobody will be around till this evening.
> 
> I’ll give that a try first though before looking at other options. Sorry if 
> this is against rules on list but I thought it might be okay as my windows is 
> actually running from my mac computer.
> 
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Re: a question regarding pages and sections

[Phil Halton]

David, you’ve echoed my sentiments completely. I still use MS office on the 
dark side for document preparation. I’m trying to love Pages, but it isn’t 
happening just yet. I’ve found no Word processing app on the mac that can 
compete with my other options in the OS, and that’s a shame because I really do 
like working on the mac for most other things like iTunes, Email etc.

 
On May 13, 2014, at 4:38 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> Thank you for sharing your experiences with Pages, I guess you are blazing a
> trail for us but I am afraid  this is why I only use my Mac for basic
> document creation and finish off in the OS and Office software we are not
> allowed to discuss on this list. I have had similar problems with
> presentation and layout on the Mac side which I will not go into here but I
> do not trust the Mac side yet for things I produce for external scrutiny.
> 
> I did hear somewhere that Microsoft Office for the Mac was to be completely
> rewritten, I think in Co Co as a native Mac App which raises the possibility
> that this may finally become an option accessible to Voiceover. If this
> happens and provides good options for us this may finally allow me to switch
> full time to a Mac environment. 
> David Griffith
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: 13 May 2014 06:56
> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: a question regading pages and sections
> 
> A quick update. Inserting a page brake worked, but when I  went to insert a
> section brake, It through me to page 22. not at the top where my cursers,
> all 3 of them were. This is starting to annoy me very quickly as this might
> be another bug in pages, but I"m not sure. I don't think it's a picnic error
> though. 
> 
> 
> I even tried inserting a section after this page number, that is the one I
> was on, how ever it inserted it somewhere else. I really have no clue what
> I'm doing wrong but this is frustrating as it is happening to me 4 days
> before this is due. My content is still there though which is good.
> 
> take care to all.
> Take care.
> On May 12, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah,
>> Just to be clear, you need to make sure the keyboard cursor is at the top,
> not the VoiceOver cursor. Sometimes in Pages, particularly when tables or
> track changes get involved, the keyboard cursor and VoiceOver cursor get
> separated and are in different places. So it's not enough if just the
> VoiceOver cursor is at the top, but you need to make sure the keyboard
> cursor is too, and probably need to make sure you're interacting with the
> correct page. So once you've navigated to the top, just do VO-command-F4 to
> bring the keyboard cursor, and then interact. Hope this might help. If not,
> then I think I'm beat, sorry.
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Re: New to list and seeking some guidance on the new Mac book air I have just purchased

[Phil Halton]

Your greatest friend for some time will be the VoiceOver help menu, accessed by 
pressing Control-Option H. Keyboard help is similar  to keyboard help mode in 
JAWS on the PC, and the Quick start guide at the bottom of the help menu is the 
VoiceOver users manual. The users manual is an HTML system that you read in 
Safari, so it’ll help you  get used to working in Safari just by reading the 
excellent manual.
I strongly suggest you read it thoroughly, then read it again… and again… until 
you feel like you know VoiceOver inside and out. It’s your screen reader, so it 
makes sense to get to know all its features as soon as possible.

Good luck and happy reading.

On Apr 27, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Mark  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello, I am new to this list. It was recommended to me by, someone on an iOS 
> blind listserv. I have just taken the plunge, and moving from a PC computer, 
> to the Mac book air. I have taken the tutorial on voice over. It explained 
> some of the key commands that would be very helpful. 
> 
> I am finding that my first frustration, or challenge, is to navigate the web. 
> Using Safari, and using the limited voiceover commands that I learned in the 
> tutorial, has proven not very helpful. I have a tendency, to not know where I 
> am navigating too, how to get out of a window, close the window, go back 
> where I was, or simply delete something.
> 
> I realize there is a lot to learn. And one email, is not going to solve all 
> of my challenges. So, could people reply with what they feel, would be the 
> top four or five key commands I should know to navigate in a web environment. 
> Using Safari. Or recommendations for other web browsers? It will be a 
> wonderful place, to start. Thank you
> 
> Mark
> Seattle 
> 
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Re: the MainStage 3 app for the mac

[Phil Halton]

Afraid I don’t know, the jam packs  install themselves and they contain many 
synths as well as loops.
As to the initial MainStage screens, I forget how I did it, it wasn’t all that 
impossible though. I suggest a little sighted help with this one if necessary.
As I recall, one sticking point was the app downloading some initial 
loops/synths  and not telling me what it was doing. I had no way to know that 
it was doing its business and that I should wait a while. it took a  while  to 
bring down the initial 2GB of stuff. Once the initial download was complete, 
there was a instrument selection screen where it wanted me to choose a midi 
instrument, like a connected keyboard or something. I didn’t have a connected 
midi instrument and so clicking around got me past that initial setup screen. I 
then went into the menus and found options for downloading additional content 
(the jam packs) and selected everything and just let it go crazy downloading 
stuff - took hours- so do it before calling it a day and it should be done win 
the morning.

good luck

On Apr 21, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
wrote:

> Hey Phill, thanks for the advice. How did you manage to get through the first 
> couple screens? Also, as per my other message about having missing 
> instruments in Garageband, I've found the sampler files folder and the 
> sampler instruments folder in my library/applications support/garageband 
> folder. I've got lots more files in the sampler files folder than I do the 
> sampler instruments folder, which might be the problem here. Would you happen 
> to know how to solve that one?
> Laurel
> On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I bought mainstage and used it to download all six jam packs for GarageBand. 
>> I don't use mainstage itself, but only use the downloaded jam packs in 
>> GarageBand. There's quite a lot there. The initial set up is kind of tricky 
>> as I think mainstage his first screen is somewhat inaccessible. It is silent 
>> on the main on the first download screen, but once you get past it you can 
>> download additional materials i.e. the jam packs through the menu options. 
>> Mainstage puts all the jam packs in the proper folder so you don't have to 
>> worry about it they will be accessible when you open garage band. Of course, 
>> I did all this under the old garage band. But I think it will be the same 
>> situation for the new garage band.
>> 
>> Sent from my IPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Laurel and Stockard 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Christopher,
>>> What I actually have in mind is buying Mainstage 3, installing all the 
>>> instruments and loops, and using those sounds with GarageBand. I've read 
>>> online that it's possible. Have you tried that approach?
>>> Laurel
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Laurel,
>>>> 
>>>> It works well for the most part from what I hear.  I personally had a lot 
>>>> of trouble getting the different patches to work.  I found some of them in 
>>>> my patch list, but nowhere near! the amount that it clames it should have 
>>>> had. Yes, I definitely did let it go through its little ordeal and 
>>>> download all 8 or whatever gigs worth of samples.  Even still though, I 
>>>> see a few pianos, maybe a few organs, maybe one or two string samples, and 
>>>> that's about it. No woodwinds, no brass, no purcussion, none a that.  I've 
>>>> uninstalled and reinstalled and attempted at least 3 or 4 times over the 
>>>> past few months to get it working, but I never was very impressed with 
>>>> what I got with it.
>>>> 
>>>> I dono though, maybe XPand2 has just spoiled me in ProTools, along with 
>>>> the Piano Tech 4 Stage plugin.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Laurel and Stockard" 
>>>> 
>>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:57 PM
>>>> Subject: the MainStage 3 app for the mac
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> This is a music app for the mac available from the app store. I know it 
>>>>> can be used by itself, and its sounds, instruments and loops, can be used 
>>>>> with Garageband. Does anybody in this community have any information 
>>>>> regarding the Mainstage app's accessibility? I'm primarily interested in 
>>>>> the softwear instr

Re: the MainStage 3 app for the mac

[Phil Halton]

I bought mainstage and used it to download all six jam packs for GarageBand. I 
don't use mainstage itself, but only use the downloaded jam packs in 
GarageBand. There's quite a lot there. The initial set up is kind of tricky as 
I think mainstage his first screen is somewhat inaccessible. It is silent on 
the main on the first download screen, but once you get past it you can 
download additional materials i.e. the jam packs through the menu options. 
Mainstage puts all the jam packs in the proper folder so you don't have to 
worry about it they will be accessible when you open garage band. Of course, I 
did all this under the old garage band. But I think it will be the same 
situation for the new garage band.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christopher,
> What I actually have in mind is buying Mainstage 3, installing all the 
> instruments and loops, and using those sounds with GarageBand. I've read 
> online that it's possible. Have you tried that approach?
> Laurel
>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Laurel,
>> 
>> It works well for the most part from what I hear.  I personally had a lot of 
>> trouble getting the different patches to work.  I found some of them in my 
>> patch list, but nowhere near! the amount that it clames it should have had. 
>> Yes, I definitely did let it go through its little ordeal and download all 8 
>> or whatever gigs worth of samples.  Even still though, I see a few pianos, 
>> maybe a few organs, maybe one or two string samples, and that's about it. No 
>> woodwinds, no brass, no purcussion, none a that.  I've uninstalled and 
>> reinstalled and attempted at least 3 or 4 times over the past few months to 
>> get it working, but I never was very impressed with what I got with it.
>> 
>> I dono though, maybe XPand2 has just spoiled me in ProTools, along with the 
>> Piano Tech 4 Stage plugin.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Laurel and Stockard" 
>> 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:57 PM
>> Subject: the MainStage 3 app for the mac
>> 
>> 
>>> This is a music app for the mac available from the app store. I know it can 
>>> be used by itself, and its sounds, instruments and loops, can be used with 
>>> Garageband. Does anybody in this community have any information regarding 
>>> the Mainstage app's accessibility? I'm primarily interested in the softwear 
>>> instruments and loops it has to offer.
>>> Thanks
>>> Laurel
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Re: upgrading to Mavericks

[Phil Halton]

Please disregard my post, didn’t see the other messages in the thread.

On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> What was explained here Richy? If you can be a little more specific in your 
> question, we can probably give you an answer.
> 
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Richie Gardenhire  
> wrote:
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>> Is there a way, other than what was explained here?
>> 
>> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:09 AM, David Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the last 3 months my repeated attempts to upgrade to Mavericks had
>>> crashed at the authorisation stage with a message saying Apple had received
>>> a report of this problem.
>>> To be fair to Apple it appeared that they have repaired the bug which, for
>>> whatever reason, was preventing my upgrade from ML.
>>> 
>>> Last night I was prompted yet again to upgrade by  Software update and this
>>> time everything appears to  have gone very smoothly.
>>> I came down this morning after leaving the process running and I was able to
>>> log into the new OS easily.
>>> I have been using the new OS for less than an hour and I have not
>>> investigated  much but so far none of the difficulties others have
>>> experienced in the past apply to me.
>>> I opened Safari and if anything appears snappier than under ML and I have
>>> not yet experienced any busy messages.
>>> TextEdit and Mail have been equally snappy. I have so far only 2 issues with
>>> using Mail.
>>> The Mac is annoying me by announcing new emails as notifications of new
>>> emails as I am typing. There also appears to be an initial problem with
>>> using option arrow keys to navigate by word. Hopefully the latter will clear
>>> when I reopen Mail and hopefully there is a way of turning notifications
>>> off.
>>> I certainly do not have any issues with Finder busy at the moment, which is
>>> a relief as I use Finder in column view. I love this view and I had been
>>> given to understand it does not work well under Mavericks. for me however it
>>> appears fine.
>>> I thought I would report upon what has been a positive upgrade experience so
>>> far.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
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Re: upgrading to Mavericks

[Phil Halton]

What was explained here Richy? If you can be a little more specific in your 
question, we can probably give you an answer.

On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Richie Gardenhire  
wrote:

> Is there a way, other than what was explained here?
> 
> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 4:09 AM, David Griffith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For the last 3 months my repeated attempts to upgrade to Mavericks had
>> crashed at the authorisation stage with a message saying Apple had received
>> a report of this problem.
>> To be fair to Apple it appeared that they have repaired the bug which, for
>> whatever reason, was preventing my upgrade from ML.
>> 
>> Last night I was prompted yet again to upgrade by  Software update and this
>> time everything appears to  have gone very smoothly.
>> I came down this morning after leaving the process running and I was able to
>> log into the new OS easily.
>> I have been using the new OS for less than an hour and I have not
>> investigated  much but so far none of the difficulties others have
>> experienced in the past apply to me.
>> I opened Safari and if anything appears snappier than under ML and I have
>> not yet experienced any busy messages.
>> TextEdit and Mail have been equally snappy. I have so far only 2 issues with
>> using Mail.
>> The Mac is annoying me by announcing new emails as notifications of new
>> emails as I am typing. There also appears to be an initial problem with
>> using option arrow keys to navigate by word. Hopefully the latter will clear
>> when I reopen Mail and hopefully there is a way of turning notifications
>> off.
>> I certainly do not have any issues with Finder busy at the moment, which is
>> a relief as I use Finder in column view. I love this view and I had been
>> given to understand it does not work well under Mavericks. for me however it
>> appears fine.
>> I thought I would report upon what has been a positive upgrade experience so
>> far.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
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Re: Screen Capture

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I just tried out the command shift 3 keystroke, and was greeted with a camera 
shutter sound and a dialog from dropbox asking whether I wanted to save the 
screen shot in dropbox. It offered to save it there and copy a link to the 
screenshot  to the clipboard for easy sharing. I can see how that might be 
useful for troubleshooting with a sighted off-site helper.

On Mar 20, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> cmd shift 3 will capture the whole screen. cmd shit 4 will capture an area 
> you want to capture. cannot get this to work though as I do not have enough 
> know how to do that.
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Eleanor Burke  
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>> What are the keys to use for a screen capture?
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Re: Minimising Maximising on the Mac

[Phil Halton]

Also, there are the hide and hide others  keystrokes (command h and command 
option h) that will minimize  the current app or minimize all but   the current 
program.
 
On Mar 20, 2014, at 5:44 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> As far as I am aware there is no inbuilt OS level Maximisation function in
> the Mac OS. This is one of areas the Mac works differently to Windows.
> 
> Having said that you can achieve the same affect often within programs. This
> is often achieved using command F or command shift F.
> 
> So in Preview you will find full screen which  by pressing command F and in
> VLC you can put DVDs into full screen mode by pressing command shift F.
> 
> I may have got these commands mixed up but experiment  and you will find the
> one which works.
> So generally in the program you are using you need to look in the View Menu
> and look to see if there is a full screen option or alternatively there may
> be a full screen button on the toolbar.
> I believe that a similar result can also be achieved by pressing the zoom
> button on toolbars in some programs but as I cannot see the screen I cannot
> confirm that this is the case.
> 
> I have heard also of third party apps which provide  a minimisation function
> but I have no experience of these.
> 
> In terms of minimising windows try using command M or alternatively command
> H to hide a window.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 20 March 2014 08:39
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
> 
> Thanks David now I am wondering how does one minimise and maximise windows
> using the keyboard
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2014, at 08:23, "David Griffith" 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I think the idea of a Mac right click is probably out of place. I think
> you
>> will find that the original Apple Mouse did not have a right mouse button
>> but a single click button on the top. The addition of a right button was a
>> Windows innovation. This is why there is no such thing as a right click
>> within the operating system, but instead control click, as you say brings
> up
>> the context menu.
>> 
>> Having said that if you plug a Windows two button mouse into the modern
> Mac
>> OS the right button will, I believe,  emulate a control click.
>> 
>> From the standpoint of Voiceover however you will not, as far as I am
> aware
>> find anything resembling a right click. Shift VO M  will bring up the
>> context menu in the same way as control click.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
>> Sent: 20 March 2014 07:58
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
>> 
>> Vo-shift-space will accomplish a left click. Didn't know about the other 
>> one other than it opened a contextual menu but vo-shift-m will do a 
>> control click, the mac equivalent to right click.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>>> On 19/03/2014 21:46, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>> OK but I am thinking in terms of Windows and doing a right or a left
>>> mouse click or is that not possible on the Mac?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy"
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
>>> 
>>> 
 Vo-shift-space.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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Re: Virtual Mouse Click

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The hide and hide others keystrokes (command h and command option h) will 
minimize the current program and minimize all but the current program 
respectively.

On Mar 20, 2014, at 4:39 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> Thanks David now I am wondering how does one minimise and maximise windows 
> using the keyboard
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Mar 2014, at 08:23, "David Griffith"  wrote:
>> 
>> I think the idea of a Mac right click is probably out of place. I think you
>> will find that the original Apple Mouse did not have a right mouse button
>> but a single click button on the top. The addition of a right button was a
>> Windows innovation. This is why there is no such thing as a right click
>> within the operating system, but instead control click, as you say brings up
>> the context menu.
>> 
>> Having said that if you plug a Windows two button mouse into the modern Mac
>> OS the right button will, I believe,  emulate a control click.
>> 
>> From the standpoint of Voiceover however you will not, as far as I am aware
>> find anything resembling a right click. Shift VO M  will bring up the
>> context menu in the same way as control click.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Apple boy
>> Sent: 20 March 2014 07:58
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
>> 
>> Vo-shift-space will accomplish a left click. Didn't know about the other 
>> one other than it opened a contextual menu but vo-shift-m will do a 
>> control click, the mac equivalent to right click.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>>> On 19/03/2014 21:46, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>> OK but I am thinking in terms of Windows and doing a right or a left
>>> mouse click or is that not possible on the Mac?
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris Apple boy"
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Virtual Mouse Click
>>> 
>>> 
 Vo-shift-space.
 
 Regards Chris
 
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Re: Magnification with Mac

[Phil Halton]

you need to select the zoom feature in the table, stop interacting with the 
table, and then vo arrow right to the various options. You’ll find that lots of 
situations on the Mac act like that, where you select a feature and then move 
past the selection to its options. I’m guessing you’re new to the mac and the 
concept of interacting with objects? Its a bit different from the PC/JAWS world.
You need to get into the habit of exploring thoroughly the interface of any new 
window/app/dialog.
 
On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:31 PM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> I went to system preferences and zoom but there was nothing for me to change. 
>  It just said image zoom.  Do I have to go in to the mouse settings to put 
> zoom on?
> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: "Mac Access iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 6:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
> 
> 
> Turn on magnification with Command+option+8. Once mag is on, Increase and 
> decrease magnification with command+option+ equals  sign (=), and minus sign 
> (-) respectively.
> First, make sure magnification (zoom) is enabled in accessibility options in 
> system preferences. There are setting there for how the screen reacts to 
> mouse and cursor movement etc.
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Eleanor Burke  
> wrote:
> 
>> OK thanks for that but can you tell me how to bring up the magnification on 
>> Mac, how to increase and decrease it.  Thanks.
>> - Original Message - From: "Haghighi,Amin" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
>> 
>> 
>> I use zoom text on MAC.
>> I don’t like the one comes with mac.
>> If I where you I would buy it.
>> The zoom text on mac the magnification is more clea then  the one comes with 
>> mac.
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Eleanor Burke  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
>>> - Original Message - From: "richie Gardenhire" 
>>> 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is, however, 
>>>> a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of magnification 
>>>> every bit as wide as Zoomtext.
>>>> 
>>>> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
>>>>> obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find out 
>>>>> first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen magnifier 
>>>>> other than the in-built one that people are using.
>>>>> 
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Re: Magnification with Mac

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Turn on magnification with Command+option+8. Once mag is on, Increase and 
decrease magnification with command+option+ equals  sign (=), and minus sign 
(-) respectively.
First, make sure magnification (zoom) is enabled in accessibility options in 
system preferences. There are setting there for how the screen reacts to mouse 
and cursor movement etc.
   
On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

> OK thanks for that but can you tell me how to bring up the magnification on 
> Mac, how to increase and decrease it.  Thanks.
> - Original Message - From: "Haghighi,Amin" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
> 
> 
> I use zoom text on MAC.
> I don’t like the one comes with mac.
> If I where you I would buy it.
> The zoom text on mac the magnification is more clea then  the one comes with 
> mac.
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Eleanor Burke  
> wrote:
> 
>> Why then is Zoomtext an option if not better?
>> - Original Message - From: "richie Gardenhire" 
>> 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Magnification with Mac
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is, however, a 
>>> magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of magnification every 
>>> bit as wide as Zoomtext.
>>> 
>>> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in 
 obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find  out 
 first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen  magnifier 
 other than the in-built one that people are using.
 
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Re: ITunes

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Also, sometimes, turning VO off and then bak on again will interrupt the “busy” 
message if it is something other than a legitimate busy situation, (which 
shouldn’t last too long).
I imagine you can find the version of iTunes in the about dialog found either 
in the main iTunes menu or in the help menu.

On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:49 AM, isaac  wrote:

> iTunes busy means that iTunes is doing a process that requires you to wait a 
> while so that what iTunes busy means. Some times iTunes locks up so that 
> could be another reason why vo is saying iTunes busy. 
> On Mar 12, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> Please could someone advise on the following questions?
>> Using a Mac book pro with Mountain lion.
>> 
>> 1. VO sometimes says "ITunes busy" what does this mean?
>> 
>> 2. When a CD is being imported into ITunes, how can I monitor its progress?
>> 
>> 3. How can I find out the version of ITunes that I am using?
>> 
>> Many thanks 
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
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Re: OCR Apps

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You really can’t go wrong with ABBYY FineReader Pro. it is highly accessible 
and easy to use - highly accurate results as well. coupled with any Epson 
scanner and you’ve got a winning combination.
I have an inexpensive Epson perfection V33 scanner - nothing special - it just 
works and it is supported by fine reader pro. I used to use ABBYY on windows, 
and when it came out for the Mac I jumped on it and am perfectly satisfied, 
especially with the price being, I can’t remember, around $60 I believe. when 
purchased off their website

On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:15 PM, alberto  wrote:

> Sounds like that is what everyone is recommending.  I’ll wait for any 
> additional recommendations on this app or any others and make my choice 
> thanks.
> So far what I have heard has me convinced in getting this one.
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Alberto,
>> 
>> I’ve had good success with both the older ABBYY FineReader Express and the 
>> recently released ABBYY FineReader Pro (FRP). I find most buttons and other 
>> controls to be properly accessible with VO. I also find the workflow to be 
>> fairly intuitive. I am running the latest version of FRP on a 2013 MBA with 
>> scans coming over Wi-Fi from a Canon PIXMA MX922. In the last few months FRP 
>> has successfully scanned and converted a few thousand pages of snail mail, 
>> bills, books, and even the (sadly inaccurate) fortune from a fortune cookie. 
>> I have no problems scanning from either the Canon’s flatbed or it’s 
>> sheet-feeder, and even the sheet-feeder’s duplex function has worked 
>> seamlessly. Converting digital files is also a straightforward process. 
>> While I haven’t actually timed it, my impression is the OCR process is 
>> quicker in FRP than it was in FR Express. FRP runs the OCR process locally 
>> and is one of the few applications that will actually cause my MBA’s fan to 
>> kick into high gear. If I know I’m going to be performing a big OCR process, 
>> such as converting a 500 page PDF file or scanning and converting a stack of 
>> bills, I will normally start the process and leave the computer alone for a 
>> while while it’s doing the OCR magic.
>> 
>> Having said all that, I would of course strongly recommend getting hold of a 
>> demo and testing to make sure it works with your Mac and scanner.
>> 
>> YMMV,
>> HTH,
>> Bryan
>> 
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Re: Backing up with Superduper

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I’ve encountered this problem as well, and the solution is to use the tab and 
spacebar keys, and don’t, repeat, do not use the vo arrow keys to navigate in 
the scheduler. At least in the boxes where you check off what days to schedule, 
using the vo keys to navigate cause the boxes to automatically check when you 
land on them. So, use the tab key and when you come to a day you want to check, 
press spacebar on it. Strange I know, but that’s the deal.


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> 
>> 
>> When i go into the schedule preferences , i select the day and week, but 
>> voiceover says all of the days and weeks are selected.
>> when i select the day and week, i get a message saying invalid schedule 
>> option.  
>> George 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Mar 2014, at 4:08 am, John Panarese  wrote:
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>>> If you use the scheduler, it will start in background.  That's how I use it.
>>> 
>>> 
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 I've got Superduper up, running and registered. 
 Do I have to have the app open for automatic backup to start? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Frustration with iTunes

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If I'm not mistaken, there is a command to eliminate duplicate titles in iTunes.

On Mar 2, 2014, at 3:09 AM, Apple boy  wrote:

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> easiest. I may even answer the second one as well.
> 1. Focus to the album grid using the usual VoiceOver navigation commands, 
> press command-a to select all then press delete.
> 
> 
> Regards Chris
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>> can help me. I have a Mac Book Pro and I'm using  Mavericks and the latest 
>> iTunes. I have a few questions.
>> 
>> I want to delete all of my music out of iTunes because I want to start all 
>> over again. The reason for this is that I have multiple occurences of songs 
>> and I have started deleting them but it is taking ages. How do I delete all 
>> of the music out of iTunes.
>> 
>> Next question is I want to add my music to iTunes by using my external hard 
>> drive. I know how to add  my external hard drive through the advance tab and 
>> once I’ve done this do I have to go to file and then go to add to library or 
>> library sub menu and in this menu which option do I choose?
>> 
>> The last question I have is once I’ve added all my new music to iTunes how 
>> do I put the music onto my iPHone 5. I know once my iPhone is showing up in 
>> iTunes and I select my iPHone, then select music after this I can’t work out 
>> how to pick the music I want to add to my iPhone. Can someone please help me.
>> 
>> Thanks for anyones help that they can give me.
>> 
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Re: A Cheap AirPlay System

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look forward to hearing the results of your testing.

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> I've just ordered a cheap AirPlay system made by Tompson which seems to offer 
> a lot of bang for the buck, one of the things that attracted me to this 
> system was its versatile connectivity functionality, is the first I've seen 
> that can either use AirPlay or Bluetooth for streaming, the unit also boasts 
> a USB connection for either an IOS device or a standard drive.
> 
> The specs for the audio seem pretty good, 60 Watts RMS, - 15 per channel and 
> 30 for the sub-woofer.
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> The test will be when the unit arrives next week and I can put it through its 
> paces, will write more about it then.
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Re: Really odd Issue With Mac And Spacebar

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sometimes keys get stuck. I don't know if this is your problem, but sometimes 
the option or shift key acts like its being held down and the solution i have 
found is to repeatedly press the key - like a flurry of rapid keystrokes hoping 
to unstick the key. It works more times than not. I have noticed this more on 
the windows side in my VM, but maybe - just maybe - its worth a try.

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> I’m currently experiencing a really odd issue with my Mac.  No matter what I 
> try, I’m unable to use my space bar without using a modifier key such as the 
> shift key when pressing space.  Does anybody happen to have any suggestions 
> as to why this might be?
> 
> Now and then, if I forget to use the modifier key,  kind of system window 
> which Lynne says looks like the window that you sometimes get if you 
> right-click on an object or similar, using the physical trackpad or a mouse.
> 
> If anybody can help me resolve this, i’d be most grateful as it’s driving me 
> absolutely bananas.
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Re: Downloading youtube videos.

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If your security settings are set to only allow apps from approved sites (or 
something  like that), it won't run when you press command O, or command down 
arrow. instead, you need to select open from the contet menu. Once you open it 
that way, it'll install and run normally from then on - it's a security measure.

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> I’ve got the app, when i opened it , it did not ask if i wanted to install it.
> n 
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> On 1 Jan 2014, at 8:47 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Yes you can.  I convert my mp4s to audio using other tools but it sure works 
>> and works well.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 12:59 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>>> How is it possible to download with this application, can you then 
>>> converted to other video formats or audio?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 1, 2014, at 3:46 AM, George Cham  wrote:
 
 Thanks sarah
 Found it .
 Will download tomorrow.
 
 
 
 George,
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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> Hello. Not sure if it is still at http://www.macupdate.com but look for 
> mactubes. it will be what you want. I've been using this software since 
> 2010 and I love it. Now that the dev put help tags in it will make 
> navigation much much easier.
> 
> Tc.
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>> 
>> Hi everyone, firstly, happy new year. 
>> I am wanting to download videos from youtube, using the Mac. 
>> Is there a website or software that I can get to save videos? 
>> 
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Re: Changing the pitch of software instruments in GarageBand

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its the Z and X keys that change pitch up and down an octave.

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> I was playing the electric guitar using the qwerty keyboard, when I somehow 
> must have hit a key combination that change the pitch up an octave. Being 
> able to do this on the fly is a great option to have, but I don't know how I 
> did it, does anybody know what I did or needs to be done in order to change 
> pitch up/down when playing a software instrument? -
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Re: The preferences in GarageBand

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We are talking about the musical keyboard that is opened with command shift K 
in GB, not an external MIDI keyboard.
At any rate, the l"r" shortcut is a non-essential. The problem mainly is 
getting around in GB for the first time - it isn't intuitive at all and takes 
some patience before becoming familiar with the layout and its operation.

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> Hmm. I successfully use gb with out the troubles you are having. and very 
> successfully I might add for the jingles I had to produce last year.  I can 
> vo space on the prefs tool bar and r works for me when I'm using my piano key 
> board.  Also the app store or software update will dl the instruments and 
> install them for you. You can even use your apple remote to control it unless 
> you have the newer macs then forget it  as they don't have the remote info 
> read senser.
> 
> Tc.
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>> Ok Phil - mouse clicking works in the preferences. Thanks.
>> 
>> I still need confirmation as to if the preinstalled version of GarageBand 
>> only comes with the software piano, and if other instruments need to be 
>> downloaded, and if so, how can I get to where I can instigate the download, 
>> and if not, how do I get them to play in the way I can get the piano to play?
>> 
>> When I first bought this Mac, I'm sure I read on list that GB was accessible 
>> and that listers were using it, but now, apart from your good self, all is 
>> quiet on the GB help front, and if I can't move on from here, would like to 
>> know what others use instead of GB that has good accessability?
>> 
>> Thanks all -
>> 
>> Andy
>> 3 Dec 2013, at 22:11, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> mouse click the buttons instead of VO space. First though, route mouse to 
>>> VO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
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>>>> Hi all -
>>>> 
>>>> Two things here:
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, when I look at preferences for GB, the general button is selected 
>>>> by default, and I can't change it. If I click the midi button, or the 
>>>> advanced button, the focus just stays stuck on the general button.
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, I am finding that the GB app freezes, and I have to do a forced 
>>>> quit to get out of it. Again, anybody help? It's looking like I'm wasting 
>>>> my time on this software, and hardly anybody here uses it -
>>>> 
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Re: The preferences in GarageBand

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I use GB primarily for audio recording - not so much software synths. it is 
highly accessible for audio recording, although a little weird at first. 

To load a different synth in your software track, you need to uninteract with 
everything and get to the top level. Then open the info pane with command I if 
it isn't already open. then, in there, you'll find a list browser that you can 
interact with and try out different instruments. GB comes with a bunch of 
pre-installed synths, and you don't really need anything more at first until 
you get good at using what's already there.

There is a Layout area that contains all your track headers and tracks, along 
with some other stuff. you have to uninteract with that layout area in order to 
get to the info pane - it will appear at the same level as your record button 
etc.

I don't have the exact details in front of me, and am working from memory. 
browse around in the info pane and you should find the list browser that 
contains the synths.

If you want another audio editing app that seems a little more intuitive to 
use, Amadeus Pro is the way to go, although, I can do any audio recording and 
editing I want in GB - its just a matter of learning the tricks.

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> Ok Phil - mouse clicking works in the preferences. Thanks.
> 
> I still need confirmation as to if the preinstalled version of GarageBand 
> only comes with the software piano, and if other instruments need to be 
> downloaded, and if so, how can I get to where I can instigate the download, 
> and if not, how do I get them to play in the way I can get the piano to play?
> 
> When I first bought this Mac, I'm sure I read on list that GB was accessible 
> and that listers were using it, but now, apart from your good self, all is 
> quiet on the GB help front, and if I can't move on from here, would like to 
> know what others use instead of GB that has good accessability?
> 
> Thanks all -
> 
> Andy
> 3 Dec 2013, at 22:11, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>> mouse click the buttons instead of VO space. First though, route mouse to VO.
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
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>>> by default, and I can't change it. If I click the midi button, or the 
>>> advanced button, the focus just stays stuck on the general button.
>>> 
>>> Secondly, I am finding that the GB app freezes, and I have to do a forced 
>>> quit to get out of it. Again, anybody help? It's looking like I'm wasting 
>>> my time on this software, and hardly anybody here uses it -
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Re: The preferences in GarageBand

[Phil Halton]

mouse click the buttons instead of VO space. First though, route mouse to VO.


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> 
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> button, the focus just stays stuck on the general button.
> 
> Secondly, I am finding that the GB app freezes, and I have to do a forced 
> quit to get out of it. Again, anybody help? It's looking like I'm wasting my 
> time on this software, and hardly anybody here uses it -
> 
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Re: I've made a start with GarageBand but am now stuck again

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I have found that the R key for recording does not work reliably  when the 
musical keyboard is active. you'll have to click the record button instead of 
use the letter R  shortcut when using the musical keyboard (command shift k).

As to selecting other instruments, that is done in the track info pane. you get 
there  by pressing command I, then interacting with the info pane that appears. 
. you then browse the instruments list and whatever instrument you are 
currently on will play as you press the qwerty keys with musical typing turned 
on.
I assume you are working with only 1  track at this point. When you start 
adding tracks, you use the arrow keys (up and down) to select the track you 
want to play. But, the tracks are not named or announced, , so you have to 
either figure out what track you're on by the instrument that plays, or by 
memorizing their position in the track area.

When you finally get to the point where you're selecting and editing audio  
track regions, it will be important to set the mouse to   track the VO cursor 
as you will need to mouse click at the various regions in order to select them 
four editting, cutting, pasting, joining, etc. you can't route the mouse to VO 
as needed, because doing so causes GB to crash. But having the mouse track VO 
causes no problems and you can click the regions as needed.

A word about track types. When you select "piano" as the track type, GB is 
creating a standard software instrument track and setting it to "piano". you 
can change the instrument type as I detailed above. the other type of track is 
a "real" track, which simply means an audio track. For real tracks, you can set 
the input to whatever equipment you have eternal microphones, internal 
microphone, guitar inputs etc - it all depends on what equipment you have.
Personally, I use a Roland QuadCapture audio interface which allows me to plug 
in two XLR type microphones, or a Hi-Z instrument.


On Dec 22, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> Ok, I can get the grand piano to play by doing the following:
> 
> Open GB.
> 
> Select new project.
> 
> VO arrow right once to project templates, interact and choose grand piano.
> 
> Stop interacting and VO right arrow across to the choose button, and click it.
> 
> This brings up the new project from templates screen with the option to save 
> the project settings just chosen.
> 
> I click the create button, and can then turn on the music typing with CMD 
> shift K.
> 
> I can now play the piano using the home row and the qwerty rows of keys on my 
> keyboard. So far, I am unable to record anything, pressing the letter r may 
> or may not work, as I can't find how to play back, I don't know.
> 
> The other thing is that I can't seem to choose any other instruments other 
> than the piano, when I do, and try to play, using the qwerty keys, there is 
> no sound!
> Anybody move me on?
> 
> Oh yes, I'm running version 6.0.5 of GB under Mountain Lion.
> 
> Thanks -
> 
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Re: GarageBand and instruments

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BTW: if you are using the version of GB before the new one that came out with 
Mavericks, I.E. V6.05, then these podcasts are for you.
I understand that the new  GB under mavericks
 kind of sucks and is quite different with a good deal of accessibility broken. 
I wouldnt suggest upgrading from V6.05 any time soon.
't Dec 21, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Andy, at the top of the webpage www.appletothecore.info, there is a frame 
> called Navbar-frame. interact with that frame and the search box is in there.
> 
> In the meantime, the following link will take you directly to the search page 
> containing all five of Ricardo's  very excellent GB podcasts. 
> 
> http://www.appletothecore.info/search?q=garageband
> 
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:
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>> Phil - I thought there had to be some reason for you writing:
>> 
>> "search there for "GarageBand". Please don't say you can't find them - 
>> they're there - check your spelling. There's five in the series…"
>> 
>> There seems to be no sign of anything to do with GarageBand, and there is no 
>> search facility either -
>> 
>> Andy
>> going to some "
>> On 20 Dec 2013, at 20:08, Phil Halton  wrote:
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>>> search there for "GarageBand". Please don't say you can't find them - 
>>> they're there - check your spelling. There's five in the series and Ricardo 
>>> should be able to get you going to some 
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Re: GarageBand and instruments

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Andy, at the top of the webpage www.appletothecore.info, there is a frame 
called Navbar-frame. interact with that frame and the search box is in there.

In the meantime, the following link will take you directly to the search page 
containing all five of Ricardo's  very excellent GB podcasts. 

http://www.appletothecore.info/search?q=garageband

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> Phil - I thought there had to be some reason for you writing:
> 
> "search there for "GarageBand". Please don't say you can't find them - 
> they're there - check your spelling. There's five in the series…"
> 
> There seems to be no sign of anything to do with GarageBand, and there is no 
> search facility either -
> 
> Andy
> going to some "
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> 
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Re: GarageBand and instruments

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I can't help with the new GB - I'm still using the older V6.05
As far as working and getting started in GB, there are many podcasts on the 
subject, however, they all deal with the older version. I'm not sure how much 
the new GB differs, but you can probably get a good idea from these podcasts.

check www.AppleToTheCore.info

search there for "GarageBand". Please don't say you can't find them - they're 
there - check your spelling. There's five in the series and Ricardo should be 
able to get you going to some extent.

On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Hi, it should make you download a whole I think it was like 2 to 4 GB of 
> instruments.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Ok, nobody has come back to me regarding getting started with GB, so maybe 
>> somebody can tell me this: Are there instruments already available within 
>> the app, I can see what VO reports as an empty table for instruments, but 
>> when I interact with the table, I can see certain instruments listed, but 
>> can't make any of them play. What do I need to do? -
>> 
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Re: The "second page" problem :-(

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That does it. I'm definitely not upgrading to 10.9 anytime soon. I can't 
believe how bad they screwed up

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> On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Christian Schoepplein  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> since 10.9 and also with 10.9.1 there is the problem, that in some apps only 
> the first page of document files are spoken by vo, all further pages are not 
> recognized :-(. This strange behaviour can be noticed in Nisus Writer, iText 
> Express and many others, even the Text Edit app from Apple can’t be used to 
> read longer documents :-(.
> 
> Because I think, that this is a very big issue and makes work with documents 
> very heavy under Mac OS,  I’d be great if everyone can report this issue to 
> the accessibility team of Apple. Maybe then this issue, and hopefully also 
> many others, will be fixed in 10.9.2…, allthough I do not really beleeve it 
> :-(.
> 
> How do you handle the „second page“ problem? Do you know a workaround?
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: Mavericks - Is it now time to upgrade?

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David, like you, I used to use column browser mode almost exclusively unless I 
needed to see the date or size of a file.
Then I found that list view is just as flexible as column view. you can use the 
arrow keys by themselves to open and close folders. you don't need to use the 
command O or command down arrow keystrokes to open a folder unless you want to 
make it the "current" folder for pasting etc.
So, its really just as flexible as column view, with the added benefit of 
having access to the file meta data  that isn't there in column view.

VO left and right arrows will move across the meta data, while left and right 
arrows alone will open and close a subfolder. Check it out, you might grow to 
like it.

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> When Mavericks was first released it was suggested on this list that
> voiceover Users should wait to upgrade. The question is that after a number
> of fixes  is it now  time to take the plunge? The aspect of the upgrade
> which most worries me is the complaint about Finder instability,- busy
> characteristics. I am a fan of column view which seems particularly
> vulnerable to this.
> 
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

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Okay, When I started having this problem in july or august of 2012 after buying 
my first Mac, I used to mess around with the volume buttons, and try turning VO 
off and on a couple of times. Eventually, maybe after a few minutes, VO would 
come up talking. I asked about this problem on the list and Ricardo Walker 
suggested hitting Command F5 four times in quick succession. I don't know how  
he came  up with that strategy, but it worked, and has continued to work every 
time VO flakes out on me after a good nights sleep.

I don't know about five times, maybe that's a typo. Pretty soon there'll be a 
whole mythology about the number of times to hit command F5, with different 
camps a spousing different numbers…

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> Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually 
> works, it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -
> 
> Andy
> On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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>> Hello, 
>> I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
>> 
>> Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
>> hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
>> then power-on again to restore VO. 
>> I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
>> pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
>> whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
>> will start speaking again. 
>> I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
>> mute. 
>> Many thanks
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Re: Mountain Lion Safari; Pages have Stopped Interacting when opened.

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this is a known bug in safari . there is a podcast detailing the problem on 
applevis.com

a search on that website for "safari" will probably bring it up.

On Dec 11, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Martin G. McCormick 
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>   I've done something I did not intend to do but am not
> sure what.
> 
>   When I go to an address in safari, I no longer hear the
> bleep sound followed by the reading of the opening web page even
> though I went in to the voiceover menu, selected the web row
> which happens to be Row 5 in the table and selected for it to
> read the page upon opening.
> 
>   Right now, I open a page and then need to move over to
> the html document, interact with that and it works.
> 
>   If one resets safari, the next attempt to open a page
> works with the page opening automatically but all subsequent
> opens require one to use the VO-arrows to find the html link and
> interact with it.
> 
>   I just upgraded to Mountain Lion 3 days ago and it was
> working fine so I know I killed something probably while
> attempting to adjust something else.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: requesting off list help with vm fusion

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contact me at 
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and I'll see what I can do.
Please be specific as to the problem you are having, and be aware that many 
questions have been answered already and a search of the archives for your 
particular dilemma  can solve the problem.

www.mail-archive.com

is the place to start looking for answers. first, do a search for the list 
"macvisionaries" , and then search that list for things like "fusion" "screen 
readers" etc


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> Hey guys,
> I need somebody to help me out with an aspect of vm fusion, but I don't want 
> on list help because what I need deals with the windows side of vm fusion, 
> specifically running a certain screen reader on the windows side. Since this 
> list is only for the mac side of vm fusion, I don't want to create a thread 
> or discuss my specific questions here, I would however like to ask somebody 
> who is experienced at running vm fusion, and dealing with screen reader 
> solutions for the windows side, to privately email me at 
> laurel.stock...@gmail.com
> Also, since the discussion of the windows side of vm fusion is not 
> appropriate for this list, would somebody, hopefully a list moderator, please 
> direct me to a more appropriate list for that topic?
> Thanks so much
> Laurel
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Re: iPad

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I'm still trying to figure out  what the attraction of the iPad is over an 
iPhone. I mean I like toys too, but is there anything the iPad does that isn't 
available on the iPhone that makes it worth buying?


On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Hello everyone
> thanks to my support i managed to not only feel her iPad but also hear it 
> too. She has the newer iPad mini. I like the screen size, about 8 inches, and 
> the sound quality is great.
> So all I'm going to say if I ever get one is the iPad mini is the way to go.
> Kind regards
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Re: I need a VO accessible metronome or beeping app

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Tempo Perfect by nch software is an excellent metronome for the IOS platform. 
They probably have a version for Mac OSX as well. Of course, it deals with 
beats per minute, not revolutions per minute, but that's not a big problem as I 
think you just want a steady beat that can be adjusted faster or slower.
. .'

On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Chris Goodwin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I do a lot of cycle training on a static bike and my coach sets me sessions 
> where I need to cycle at 70 revs per minute, 80 rpm, 90 rpm, 100 rpm and so 
> on.  I therefore want an app that beeps at these kinds of rates.
> 
> I've looked at about 4 or 5 musicians metronome apps where all but one wasn't 
> usable with voice over.  the one that I could just about use though wouldn't 
> let me set the rpm as I wanted - it kept to 4 bpm intervals.
> 
> I've googled the topic without luck.
> 
> Can anyone suggest an app where I can set the beeps per minute so I can then 
> cycle along at that speed for up to about 6 minutes at a time?
> 
> Many thanks all,
> 
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Re: garage band help, how to add loops to a track

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have you tried drag and drop instead of copy and paste?  , 
n Dec 2, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Hmm. it worked in the older garage band.  as I did this a lot. I don’t have 
> any samples or I’d show them off. lol!  HOPe someone who uses the new gb can 
> give some advice. 
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
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> 
>> Sarah, when I hit command c to copy the loop, it says that it can't be 
>> copied. :-( I'm just stuck. lol
>> Laurel
>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello. try copying and pasting the loop from the loop area to the new track 
>>> at the beat and subdivision you want it at.  I don’t ue the new gb so am 
>>> not much help here.
>>> 
>>> Take care. 
>>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Laurel and Stockard  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hey guys,
 I like the tutorials that Sarah referred me to, their great! I do need 
 help though. I can't figure out how to add an apple loop to a track. I 
 know the normal directions say to drag and drop the loop into the track, 
 but I can't seem to do that. Some of the older garage band tutorials were 
 using the perevious version of Garage Band, so it's hard for me to follow 
 their directions because the older version's layout is very different from 
 this one, and I don't have any experience with the older versions.
 Can anybody who has experience with this help me out? Maybe I just don't 
 know where to drag and drop the tracks, or maybe there's a voiceover trick 
 I can't figure out? I've also tried just copying and pasting the loop into 
 the track, but no dice. If somebody has it on their computer but doesn't 
 have a lot of experience, maybe if they have more vision than I do they 
 could still look at it and help me out?
 Thoughts?
 Thanks
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Re: Remote access to a Mack via Teamviewer Information.

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That sounds great Jim, I'm still trying to figure out the primary use for this 
app though. What's it  good for in practical terms?

On Nov 29, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
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> Yo Folks:
> 
> For those who may not know:  the secret for using a remote connection to a 
> Mack Via TeamViewer is to turn Voiceover off on the controling computer.  The 
> VO key commands are then passed through to the host computer. That makes 
> sense because the key combinations are not being intersepted.  This also 
> seems to work perfectly controling a Mack from a PC with the speech on the pc 
> being disabled.
> 
> AwesomenessCoolness.
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Re: help with setting up vm ware?

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Mathew, I use Jaws in windows7 in VMWare under mountain lion, and will probably 
not be upgrading anytime soon either. One thing you'll need to be aware of when 
installing and using Jaws is the need to modify some setting to have access to 
an insert key, or a caps lock key for jaws in laptop keyboard mode. If you have 
a full-sized apple keyboard, this is not a problem because that keyboard has an 
insert key, and you can run jaws in PC keyboard mode. The caps lock is 
unavailable because apple doesn't treat it like a key press but handles it 
differently, and it doesn't get passed along to windows - making it unavailable 
as a jaws modifier key.

What I've done, and what a lot of people do, is to use a freeware windows  
program called sharp keys to assign the grave accent key to act as a caps lock 
key, and then set jaws to run in laptop keyboard mode with the caps lock (now 
the grave accent key) as the jaws modifier key.
. 

another way, probably the better way, is to set up VMWare to substitute an 
insert key for the caps lock key, so that when you press capslock, vmware sends 
an insert key to windows. 
I've forgotten how that's done in vmware now, but it's fairly simple. probably 
a lot simpler than the sharp keys method and the third option that I won't 
mention here now.

The only drawback to the last method is that you lose one Jaws command, the 
command is insert+J, which has a conflict that causes it to be unusable. 
However, pressing control left arrow does the same thing as insert + j and so 
it doesn't really matter.

Sorry I can't give accurate directions on how to set up an insert key from 
within vmware, I'm sure someone here will tell you if you ask.
 
. 
On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:

> Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to go ok. 
> Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? I 
> have been choosing single window mode and full window. I can get narrator to 
> start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use 
> jaws if possible because I know it better. Is there any good tutorials out 
> there? Thanks for any help.
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Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

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speaking of iText Express, I installed it yesterday and can't seem to get very 
far with it. The search function wasn't cooperating at all, and although I 
haven't gone through the help file yet, it seemed kind of quirky. 

On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text 
> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible and 
> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
> 
> 
> 
> **
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Re: battery status

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there's a podcast on Applevis.com about a battery app that deals with all 
things battery. David Woodbridge did the podcast, and a search on the site for 
"battery" will probably bring it up.

On Nov 19, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> When I first got my MBA about 2 1/2 months ago, I had the same question.
> Over the weekend, I finally got my first alert when the MBA went down to 5%.
> So, you stated that you were plugging in at 7%, which would not trip the
> alert. I have no idea if this alert can be changed like increasing it to
> 10%. I was wondering if other more seasoned Mac users can chime in on how to
> configure the battery alert percentage to be increased or to have a shortcut
> on the desktop to access this info instead of opening the status menu. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Reece
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: battery status
> 
> Hello,
> Is there a way on the Mac to get an alert when the battery is at 20%
> and/or10% as is the case on the iPhone?  Mine is at 7% now-about to plug it
> in, an so far,no alerts More a curiosity than anything else-thanks.
> Shannon Reece
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Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon

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I bring the iPhone along with  me when I go shopping. I simply open the 
reminders app and select the list I want. Then, as I walk through the store 
with the iPhone in my hand,  I run my finger down the list (or flick right and 
left) to hear its contents. no need to print or email anything.  And, if I have 
a sighted assistant helping me find the items, they also hear the items read 
aloud and that helps us to work together as a team so to speak. 
You can tell siri to "show grocery list", for example, but opening the list in 
reminders gives more  flexibility in using the list. For example, you can check 
off,or delete the items from the list as you go - -something not possible when 
the list is simply "shown".
I think we're expecting a level of complexity that simply isn't there.  After 
all, why print out the list when you can simply carry it with you, checking off 
items as you go?

As an aside, when adding items to your list as you think of them, if siri gets 
it wrong,  you can interact with her and tell her to "change title". then, 
re-speak the item name. Siri will ask confirmation of your item and then add it 
to the list. It's a lot easier for me now to add items to my various lists as I 
think of them, wherever I may be. No more sitting down and trying to come up 
with a complete list (which inevitably  lacks one or two items).
 On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

> Greetings Dane and list,
> 
> First of all, thanks Phil for the suggestion.  I knew that the reminders app 
> was powerful, but I'd never looked at lists.  Now from preliminary testing, I 
> have a few suggestions for retrieving the list data.
> 
> 1. Tell siri something like: show my grocery list.
> 
> 2. go into reminders -> list name.
> 
> Hopefully someone can come up with a better suggestion, but it appears to me 
> that in order to eMail or print, you would need to traverse your list item by 
> item and select and paste.  The three finger quadruple tap gesture introduced 
> in IOS7 will speed up the process of copying the items, but I can see where 
> this method would involve a lot of toggling around between Mail and Reminders 
> if the list gets long.  Siri will read multiple items though, hence the 
> gesture referenced above may save a lot more time.
> 
> As for printing, I use an app called PrinterPro by Readdle.com.  This app 
> supports printing from the clipboard, texts, or eMail messages.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Shopping Lists was Using Pages On My iPon
> 
> 
>> Okay, I'm replying to my own message as I have a question about your 
>> shopping list, how do you get the output of the list when you need to go 
>> shopping? For example do you print it, eMail it or what?
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:29 am, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes I certainly will consider this as I had no idea that Siri was so 
>>> powerful so thanks for the suggestion, this will save me heaps of time and 
>>> certainly will be far more convenient.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 Nov 2013, at 9:25 am, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I don't have any pages info, but just wanted to tell you about the 
>>>> quickest and easiest
>>>> method I've found for shopping lists. It's the built-in reminders app. I 
>>>> just set up a list called shopping, or grocery, or whatever else I need, 
>>>> and then use SIRI to populate the list as I think of things I need during 
>>>> the week.
>>>> 
>>>> Using Siri, you can use the "add" keyword to add items to your list, and 
>>>> then once finished with the list , you can easily delete them off the list 
>>>> with a  flick and tap of  the actions menu.
>>>> 
>>>> Example:
>>>> "add eggs, butter, bread and milk to grocery list".
>>>> or, "add to grocery list, eggs, butter, bread and milk"
>>>> that will put a reminder in the grocery list that says "eggs, butter, 
>>>> bread and milk".
>>>> As long as siri is up and running this method is so quick and easy that I 
>>>> don't bother with writing out lists in textedit or the notes program 
>>>> anymore.
>>>> The important thing is to use the keyword "add", and the name of the list 
>>>> in a phrase like "to shopping list".
>>>> 
>>>> It really 

Re: Using Pages On My iPon

[Phil Halton]

Hi Dane,

Sorry, I don't have any pages info, but just wanted to tell you about the 
quickest and easiest 
method I've found for shopping lists. It's the built-in reminders app. I just 
set up a list called shopping, or grocery, or whatever else I need, and then 
use SIRI to populate the list as I think of things I need during the week.

Using Siri, you can use the "add" keyword to add items to your list, and then 
once finished with the list , you can easily delete them off the list with a  
flick and tap of  the actions menu.

Example:
"add eggs, butter, bread and milk to grocery list".
or, "add to grocery list, eggs, butter, bread and milk"
that will put a reminder in the grocery list that says "eggs, butter, bread and 
milk".
As long as siri is up and running this method is so quick and easy that I don't 
bother with writing out lists in textedit or the notes program anymore.
The important thing is to use the keyword "add", and the name of the list in a 
phrase like "to shopping list".

It really works well and is just  something you might want to consider.

On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'm using Pages on my iPhone to compile my fortnightly shopping list, this is 
> the second time I've used the App for this sort of thing, a very mundane task 
> I know but a task that demands high priority nevertheless.
> 
> So to my question, I've typed out all the items I want on the list and I have 
> a heading nicely centered in bold and underlined at the top of the document 
> so how to number each item in the list?
> 
> I imagine that you select the text you wish to work with and then select 
> "Lists" from the "Format" options? That's as far as I get, I can't see 
> anything which makes reference to bulleted or numbered lists, I can see 
> indenting and all the other stuff.
> 
> There are sections of the formatting screen that Voiceover doesn't read out 
> though I know they're there as I can hear Voiceover skipping over what 
> appears to be buttons so perhaps the bulleted and numbered list items are 
> amongst those things which Voiceover isn't reading? If that's the case then 
> I' wonder if there's a way of say labeling those parts that Voiceover isn't 
> reading, anyone any thoughts on this?
> 
> I suppose - if worst comes to worst - I can just run back to one of the 3 Mac 
> machines I have here, run the Pages App  and do the numbering format from 
> there.
> 
> 
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Re: checking battery status and time, finding edit box on webpage, going back a page?

[Phil Halton]

Actually, command shift comma won't get you into the preferences window for 
safari. just use  command comma.

Another way to find edit boxes in a safari webpage is to turn on quicknav, and 
press the letter "f" for form fields, then turn off quickNav in order to type 
in the edit field
each press of "f" while in quicknav will move you to the next form field, with 
shift "f" moving you back to the previous field.
Quick Nav  is turned on and off by pressing the left and right  arrows 
simultaneously. .

On Oct 17, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> 
> On Oct 17, 2013, at 5:02 AM, peter greco  wrote:
> 
>> How can I please check the status of the battery?
> To check the battery  hit ctrl f8 then control option right to the battery 
> status.
> 
>> How can I check the time please?
> 
> See answer number 1 for battery. The time is also in there as well as a few 
> other things that are of use such as bluetooth.
> 
> 
>> What's the easiest - quickest way to find an edit box on a webpage, say 
>> logging into a bank account please?
> to do this, the easy way for now, hit cmd shift and the symbol below the k  
> key from with in safari. then interact with the tool bar, then  vo (control 
> option) all the way to the right to advanced and vo space on it. Next stop 
> interacting and go to the place where it says use tab to highlight elements 
> on the page and press space to check that. Close the window with cmd w. Now 
> you can hit option tab and option shift tab to move through *all* form 
> controls.
> 
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Re: Is VMWareFusion on topic on this list?

[Phil Halton]

Gordon, where would one go to join these two other sister lists of yours?

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> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:45 AM, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  
> wrote:
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> 
> I’m sorry, we are miles behind on mail.
> 
> We state this in the list policy document.  The configuration of everything 
> on the Mac side of things in Fusion is on topic.  But the Windows 
> configuration is not.  You might like to join our sister groups, Techno-Chat 
> and Windows-Access if you’d like to discuss the Windows side of things.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 22:55, Tere Codina  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having troubles with VMWare Fusion and I doubt if this thread is on 
>> topic.
>> 
>> Please let me know if I can explain what happens to my Mac, or perhaps you 
>> can give me any place for me to post my question regarding this problem.
>> 
>> Thank you all. 
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Re: Airplay

[Phil Halton]

Perhaps under system settings in the sounds pain check to see where the default 
output is being sent. Sounds like it's being routed to airplay.

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> On Oct 7, 2013, at 5:22 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
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> 
> Sent from my iPhonehi all
> 
> for some reason when the macbook air is on it is now automatically defaulting 
> to airply with our apple tv, and voice over sounds are disapearing. how can i 
> stop this please?
> regards will
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Re: Wordpress help please

[Phil Halton]

The blog tag line (worlds greatest blog or whatever) is in settings/general, I 
just changed mine the other day. Also, for the visual editor, when editing a 
post, you'll see the words text  and visual shortly after the post title. route 
your mouse to the word text and click it, and you'll be in the text editor, and 
not in the visual editor. I don't know if it holds that setting from session to 
session, but it'll put you out of  visual editor for the current session.
 
I'd strongly suggest reading through the articles at learn.wordpress.com, and 
then make use of support.wordpress.com to find answers to most any question 
about blogging on wordpress.

I use the item chooser to find most things in the dashboard, like settings etc.

On Oct 6, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> So why is it that you and Chris have this visual edit box, and others of us 
> do not? I am making use of VO right arrow for those fly out menus, as the pop 
> up buttons are meaningless. I'm also trying to find my way back to the text 
> edit box where that default Wordpress message is, the one that is at the top 
> of my blog page, after my username, that says "smile. You're at the world's 
> best press site ever" or whatever the wording is. I want to change that, but 
> can't find out where it is now! -
> 
> Andy
> On 6 Oct 2013, at 22:05, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> That is the problem I ran in to on the wordpress.com site actually when I 
>> was helping this person I told them to go to the dash board, then profile, 
>> then to the use visual editor check box and uncheck it, problem was, there 
>> ewas no visual editor check box. Is that what you ae seeing? and also there 
>> are fly out ou tmenues so vo right arrowing is almost a must. It is very 
>> much doable as I've been suing word press for 2 years now, almost, and am 
>> very much used to it.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris - thanks for trying to help, but no joy so far.
>>> 
>>> I've clicked on blog admin, on dashboard, on profile, and on personal, but 
>>> no sign of that edit box for visiual editor.
>>> 
>>> The layout is a bit strange, in that there are things on the screen that 
>>> using vo f to search for, doesn't bring up any results, but just tabbing 
>>> does find things that the search feature doesn't, but still there is no 
>>> sign of this visual editor! -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 6 Oct 2013, at 00:13, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Andy, it's in your dashboard.  Go to your profile.  I think there is a 
 link that says either profile, or my profile, or something to that effect. 
  Under here, you'll see it.  It's the very first option.  It's a checkbox 
 that says disable the visual editer.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Andy Collins" 
 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 2:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Wordpress help please
 
 
> Where to I go to turn off the visual editor? Can't seem to find where it 
> lerks! -
> 
> Andy
> On 5 Oct 2013, at 18:39, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Ok. to make that go away in your profile area turn off the visual 
>> editor. this will make a smoother and more stream lined experience, at 
>> least in my experience it did and still does.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Andy Collins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks. I've got tags sorted now, and I think I can write the post now 
>>> too. I was having a bit of trouble in the edit fields. Firstly came the 
>>> title field, that was no problem, but then comes a rich text edit 
>>> field, which I had to interact with, but when doing so, found there 
>>> were other areas as well as the text field in that interact area. 
>>> Still, a bit of vo-ing around, and I was able to land on the text area, 
>>> and write.
>>> 
>>> What isn't showing up, is my profile, so when I look for my posts, I 
>>> see my username, and that worpress message about being on the best 
>>> press website there is, then comes the title of my post, and post 
>>> itself, and the tags, but no link to profile. I have written one, and 
>>> published it as public, so I don't know what's going on there -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 5 Oct 2013, at 18:25, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 What ou need to do is write the body of your post in the field right 
 before the publish set of links where it says post type, scheduled 
 etc. Do not write it in the tags field or that's what you will get, 
 tags.
 
 Tags are mainly used to make posts easier to find. for example this 
 could my tags
 
 intro, wordpress, posts, accessibility
 
 depending on the subject I'm writing about.
 
 Take care
 On Oct 5, 2013, at 4:15 AM, Andy Collins  
>>>

Re: Blogging on a Mac

[Phil Halton]

The visual editor thing is no longer a problem, and as far as fdropbox 
bandwidth is concerned, I can view videos and audio files without any 
appreciable slowdowns. For my needs, being able to post articlesand embedd 
images, or external links to medial files in my dropbox account, it's working 
fine - especially for the price of $0.00 per eternity (or for a good long  
while anyway). 
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Re: Blogging on a Mac

[Phil Halton]

I get around the file size restriction by linking to files in my public dropbox 
account there's no limit there wordPress.com has an cost me a penny and I've 
got two blogs up and running and I'm able to link to audio files of any size.

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> On Oct 3, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> This raises an interesting point.  But it isn't always possible for people to 
> go your route, owing to provider restrictions on low level access.  You'd 
> need to make sure that PHP 54 ohr later is functional before this will work.
> But the interesting part for me is the actual installation process of 
> wordpress on your own server or provider's site if PHP is functional.  How, 
> for instance, do you create your database?  Do you use MAMP or something 
> similar?I would idally like to be able to install MAMP Pro so that we can 
> host multieaple blogs but so far I haven't figured out how that works.  íf 
> somebody experienced with this kind of configuration would be able to work 
> with me off list, it would be appreciated.  In return, we would be happy to 
> offer them some kind of service.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sarah k Alawami  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility  Date sent: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:34:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: Blogging on a Mac
> 
> Actually I would not do wordpress.com I had to set up something with someone 
> and I couldn't.  You cannot upload files larger then I think it's 10 meg, you 
> have to pay for storage.  It's a lot cheaper on my opinion to go self hosted 
> and host a wordpress site that you instllinstall yourself on your web 
> provider.  Many of my podcasts are over 10 mb in size, sometimes being 500 mb 
> but that's rare.
> 
> Hth.
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> WordPress.com is definitely the way to go.  You don't download anything and 
> you don't have to set up your own server.  There's a document called "learn 
> WordPress "or something like that on the support.WordPress.com site read that 
> it'll help.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> Is wordpress the best way to go for simplicity of blogging on a Mac?
> 
> I've just looked at the Wordpress website.  Do I just download the latest 
> version, and then create an account? Is it accessible with VO? -
> 
> Andy
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